Garza Podcast - 132 - Itchy Panic Attack

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

Garza & Ernie talk about their bright future(Ernie is gettin slapped), monthly Domino's budget, Ernie's panic attacks & much more! CLICK HERE TO PURCHASE FROM SWEETWATER & SUPPORT THE PODCAST: https://imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Future of the Podcast 01:38 - Ernie Losing Weight 04:49 - Freeway Police Stand-off 09:06 - Ernie’s Diet (continued) 10:05 - Domino’s Monthly Budget 11:58 - Chain Restaurants Closing Down 15:57 - Market, Inflation, Economy 18:50 - Finding Po*n in the Woods as Kids 24:45 - Mayhem Fest & New England Metal and Hardcore Festival 26:30 - Rating Each Others Musical Skills 31:28 - Wanting to Make Music a Priority Again 36:23 - People Wanting to Be the Singer of Suicide Silence 42:40 - Ernie’s Panic Attacks 49:33 - PowerSlap 53:01 - Mayhem Fest, The Future of Suicide Silence is Bright 59:18 - Garza Started Smoking Cigarettes 1:05:08 - Stopping By the Fender Custom Shop 1:09:00 - Garza Jumping Into Alex Lopez’ Drum Kit 1:11:18 - Closing Thoughts, Episode Preview

I started remembering when Mitch passed how fast people were like putting up tryout videos, like on their own, just being like, what the fuck? And no disrespect, but some of them were awful. And they were just putting it up with their whole chest. And I kind of respect it. I'm like, yo, like, you're shooting your shot. And, you know what I mean? And I'm sure some of those people are probably phenomenal vocalists now.

And hopefully in cool bands doing something, you know what I mean? But, like, yeah, I remember what a massive deal that was. There was people that you could clearly see. It's like you're in so far over your head. You would never last up in day doing this. No. Ernie, it's great seeing you. It's good to be back.

It's good to see you. So the brand new schedule is, I'll spill the beans here. I'm going to start doing episodes of just me talking. Oh, hell yeah. It's like a solo episode? Yeah. Sick. Because you don't ask me any questions because you're an asshole.

So I'm going to start. So I literally have to start doing episodes by myself now. That's how bad it's gotten, guys. Yes, it has. So the schedule's going to go, you, a guest or a band. me solo and guess we're a band and we're just gonna oh sick okay that's cool that's cool that's cool all right so that's variety people okay I went yesterday I was at Fender all day and I got you a gift so you go you get you get

oh dang hey I got a guy I got every band member t-shirt dude fuck yeah dude hell yeah yo shout out fender shout out Chris Garza what's the size it's a 2X cool so it fits right it fits yes sir Dude, you're losing weight, man. I'm just fucking... You are losing weight. I'm shedding it, bro. I'm shedding it. I'm so fucking deep in the fucking shit right now, dude.

It's... I'm just... Now it's just clockwork. I don't even think about it. I just get up and I fucking do it. What are you doing? I get up. I work out at like six in the fucking morning.

Drive to downtown LA for work for eight hours. And I eat once a day. I'm doing a fucking a four-hour window of eating and the 20 hours of not eating. Hmm. So it's like a combination. of intermittent fasting plus they call that the the warrior diet yes yeah they uh yeah you only eat once a one to do and actually uh shout out my current supervisor aaron at the

downtown la location he's actually about to start the uh the carnivore diet that he's been doing like all this homework and like like research and shit on it cool and uh we we ended up kind of like talking about it at the store and uh he was just like yeah like he's like i know a lot of people both guy and girl that have had like incredible results and i'm like yeah i know two people that are on it as well that have incredible results. So he's starting already. I think he already started. He went to the grocery store and did all the bulk shopping

for all the protein and the meat and all that stuff. And I'm going to kind of let him get like a week or two in and see what the verdict is. And I may even jump on top of that on top of the fasting and on top of the working out. You know what I mean? While keeping it healthy, obviously, not trying to fucking, you know, dive in anything head first,

cold turkey and fuck all the progress up. But I'm going to say, I'm stoked. I'm stuck, man. I feel good. My energy levels are fucking up. We played that show at fucking for Fender. And I, like, wasn't gassed. Like, it was kind of tight to, like, not feel like shitty.

Like, we were done. And I got up and I was like, I could play another fucking 10 songs. Like, I'm chilling. Wow. Yeah. Well, if you think about it, man, you're holding all that extra weight. You know, it's part, I mean, I assume it just literally weighs you down. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, both, like, like, literally and physically, you know what I mean? and so any like I won't say any time but like when you start to I mean really it does take a bit till you like physically notice it when you're like oh shit okay like you know all my clothes fits better my fucking t-shirts are huge on me now I know that I mean those shirts look big on you now fucking they're fucking fucking three four notches in like it's sick but same thing like sitting behind the kit on last Friday or whatever I immediately noticed a difference I was like oh shit like oh shit Like, yeah, like, it just, I don't know, it just felt better. Even when we rehearsed in the morning before going to the show, I was just like, damn, we didn't even, we didn't even fucking warm up. We just jam the fucking set, and I was like, ah, like, we're fucking cruising. It felt good. Wow.

So now, now, let's see, we're in June. Mm-hmm. Dude, October 12th for Mayhem. Can we forget it. I'll be down another fucking 35, 40 pounds easily by then. What if, what if Mayhem came and he weighed more? and like during the summer you started to blow it. Oh, then I would probably fucking go play in traffic or something like that.

No, no, no, no, no. No, I'm kidding. I'm joking. That's not funny. I was literally just in the last week that literally just happened. Someone fucking, they, uh, do we, do we talk about that yet? Someone fucking decided to park their car in the middle of their freeway during a rush hour traffic. This was last week. Oh, that standoff. Standoff. Someone had a standoff.

So somebody, so they were, apparently it started in Corona. That's what I heard. That's what I heard. It started in Corona. So apparently this man was accused of stalking somebody. And then that's what prompted the, uh, the, uh, yeah, the chase. And, uh, around 10 a.m. decides to stop right in the middle, right, right off of a lakewood. So right before the night he hits like the 55 to come here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy stops in the middle of the road and the standoff. So they cut. So they stopped the freeway on both sides. Did you go to Denny's? I did. That's fucking sick, dude. What else is there to do during standoff?

Well, first, I thought it was this really bad trap. Oh, wait, I'm driving out there. I'm like, this is way worse than usual. Okay, I'll have breakfast now and part like an hour. Sit there have coffee and just do work. And then the waitresses were like talking amongst them. So, oh, there's a standoff on a freeway. It escalated quick.

Like, I saw you post about it. You're like, oh, stuck in the middle of a pursuit or whatever. And then everyone else started posting about it. Oh, this is like serious. And then it was on the news. Yeah. And I guess I had like a shootout with him at the end of it, right? Like they shot him or something like that?

He shot himself. He basically... Oh, shit. He slowly died. It wasn't like he shot up some stuff in the head. He fucking... I think it was like a body shot. Oh, fuck.

And then after... Fuck. I went back on the road. It was a while. It was probably 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. God damn. Stopped. They stopped.

It's waiting. And then they finally... It's weird because you're on the freeway and, like, you... I mean, it's kind of... crazy you could go on YouTube and look at news live live live feed of it so I'm watching like the live feed and it's sitting there literally across from it at the freeway like

crazy dude crazy and they finally shot a tear gas oh okay and pulled this guy out that's that's that's wild man and then yeah he died on the when they were pulling him out Jesus people were pissed people

in traffic We won't go into cars again in traffic, but man, people are just... They suck, dude. It's like, where are you going to go? People started going on like the E-lane and shit. There wasn't a lane. It's like, where you're going to go? Yeah.

So I literally, there's a point where I took my car and parked it in the middle so people will, like, let's stop. Yeah. People even going to find ways to get around me. Oh, yeah. And so I would... Oh, yeah. A little bit of road rage came out.

So I would look at every car. You know, you know how I am. I'll try me. I contact. Were you shooting in the look, though? Yeah, I was. And there's one older gentleman that looked at me like, I'm the asshole. It's like, what the fuck you're doing, you asshole?

Don't fucking look at me like, what are you doing? God, people are doing that. Garza of the Dark Night, dude, the fucking. It came out. After four hours, you're like, okay. I was like, oh my gosh. Dude, I was doing a fucking, I was doing a live. In a car.

You were sitting. there. Although my phone kid is, you know, it's like, oh, well, might be kill time. Yeah. It was, God, dude, it was. Oh, boy. How did this, how does it get prompted? Oh, yeah, because I said I was going to go playing traffic.

That's a joke. I'm not going to go playing traffic. I'm going to keep excelling at everything I'm doing right now. And one of those is continuing to take the weight off. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, no. If I balloon back up during summer, then I just, there's no hope, dude.

But no, no, I'm fucking, I'm cruising. I'm crazy. It just, now it really is like, I'm at a point. where I've been doing it so long now that it is just like second nature. Like I just, my routine is set. Good. I don't fucking, um, I don't get like fucking like shitty cravings, like late at night or anything. And like I said, if I do, I'll get a fucking bottle of water because there's nothing

eating the house anyway. Good. Dude, don't have shit in your house. It's honestly, it'll keep you from fucking snacking it or eating shitty food late. You know what I mean? Yeah, because you'll get up and you look into the fridge and like, oh, God, there's something in here. Okay, I'll go back to bed.

Yeah. But if you know there's something in there or in cupboards, you'll go. You're fucked. You're fucked. I will. I will say, I will say, if I do cave when I do cave, and it's probably been like two or three times now, it's been a spoonful of peanut butter. Just peanut butter? Just a spoonful of peanut butter.

That's good, though. And it fucking fills you up, dude. It does, dude. It's all protein. It's all protein and it's peanuts. You know what I mean? Like, penis? Peanuts.

Oh. You're immature, man. Chill out. Oh, okay. This is live. We didn't miss a beat. Wait, we're live? No, no, no, we're not.

Oh, I was like, holy shit. I mean, it doesn't matter. to be up yeah this is going on the internet you better for everyone to see better grow up oh man peanut butter nice listen man peanut butter is underrated it is peanut butter is a top to your food and you can put that shit on almost any kind of like fruit or a fucking rice cake or anything like a sea salt rice cake with peanut butter on it that shit'll keep you full for like two three hours no joke like it's kind of sick okay yeah i'll try it out yeah it was a few days ago because uh uh I'm trying to save some money

just to pay for other shit like gas is getting expensive and I two things one okay then you could go in your bank statement and be like okay

I'll type in Domino's and then you'll see what the amount you paid the month and I was like because there's a time where I'm here all day I was like I'm working

you're lazy okay I'll fuck in this order of pizza but after a month I have boxes on the table over there to stack up. I was like, that's a lot of pizza. I know that statement page that you typed in Domino's got to be at least fucking one and a half long.

It was like $300 I spent on Domino's pizza. Fuck. Yeah. I was like, oh, I need to stop doing this. Damn, that's brutal. Because if you get a pizza delivered here, it's like $30. Yeah. And isn't it just like down the fucking street, too? Am I tripping? Or is Domino's not close to here?

No, it's literally two exits down that way. That's what I'm so. Damn. But, uh, What the pizza is $1499 plus tip plus delivery that's not in tax. Yeah, it's fucking wild, bro. Yeah, yeah. And they started doing this deal, which they got me.

So they got me. I know they got a lot of people. We're talking about this already. If you tip them, they sort of offering this deal where they email you a $3 coupon every time. So every pizza you bought, I bought, they'll give you a $3 coupon. It was fucked. Whoever at Domino's came up with that idea, Genius.

Genius. Genius. And I don't know a few people out there on the internet have noticed, but everything is closing down restaurant-wise because... Dude, Denny's will be a fucking thing of the past in a few months. Chili's went bankrupt. Chilies went bankrupt? Yeah, they're closing like 60 fucking locations or something like that.

Oh, my. That's what I'm saying, dude. We're going to go on tour next year and not be able to hit a fucking Chili's and get a triple dipper. And that's kind of depressing. like do i love drinking in chilies that's what i'm saying it's insane dude chilies is closing down denies is closing down i actually just saw the list yesterday on facebook like they outlined what how many locations of each restaurant are closing down i saw that list it's fucked up dude i'm like it was a lot it's kind of wild what was on there uh buffalo wild wings yeah bdubs is on there

i hop i hop yeah there's yeah there's uh there's uh a lot of change i love going in chilies when i'm to do because when you're on tour it's consistent it's consistent and or okay so like it's day off, I'm depressed because I play guitar and I watch up deathcore bands. And you know, it's like, I want to fucking, I want to go to Chili's dude. Forget about my life for me. Yeah, man. Go drink a couple fucking $4 margaritas, dude, have a fucking chicken ranch sandwich. We've done that a few times.

Oh, for sure, dude. Chili's, chillies is a good old consistent. I don't, you know what, even if we, even if we were fucking crushing it, you know, making fucking $30,000 a night doing whatever the fuck, dude, like, Chili's is still dope. I would still go to Chili's and have, you know, and have a fucking meal. It's good. It's comfort food, man Straight up, straight up

And it offers some bit of like, like I said, consistency across the country And now it's just like they're wiping that shit down Because like the cost of everything is going up And no one is like No one can afford it It's just where we landed at You know what I mean? Yeah, that we're talking about it

I think it's my theory is because If their prices are going up If you're someone that's going to go off for food Like well if I'm going to pay this I might as well go to the better restaurant A nicer restaurant Yeah, 100. So like those chains, I mean, it might be a thing of the past.

That's what I'm saying. It's slowly starting to fucking creep in and take effect, which is, you know, it's a fucking bummer. Like, I remember, like, for the longest time, like, I mean, every, any person who's ever toured ever or even remotely left their fucking hometown has eaten out of Denny's somewhere across the country. And you used to be able to do it for like nine, ten bucks a person and get a sick fucking meal. Not anymore. No, it's pricey. It's super fucking expensive. Like Denny's.

Who would have ever thought? You know what I mean? It's like, am I a five-star restaurant or a Denny's? You know? And while I'm like, and I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, like, while I can say like I'm very fortunate still to be able to afford like going out and eat at a place like fucking Denny's or whatever, like, it's fucked that it's a reality that some people can't.

Yeah. That's like, that's insane. It's like, oh yeah, you know, I'm take the kids to fucking Denny's for fucking breakfast and it's like $70 for like $70 for like $2 or three people to eat at Denny's. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, so what's the, what's the other? option then for for people especially especially like families like what where else do you do you go for like like a really decent not expensive meal i mean if

those denies right those denies and i mean dude like literally denies and chilies you literally like those were were and are you're kind of like two options or even fucking i hop you know what i mean like it's and you'll see it you'll see that in a lot of areas and places where like the income is probably pretty fucking low or shitty those people are going to be going out less and and less too. It'll be staying home and having to cook at home, dude. And I get it. I know that the economy does this sometimes, but I don't know. It just seems like fucking lately, you know, and again, I don't like to get into politics or anything like because I'll admit I'm not as educated in that area of things to like speak on it. But I know shit's fucked up right now,

and it just seems like the cost of everything is going up while people aren't getting the cost of increase in living, like for their jobs and shit like that. You know what I mean? And so it's like, it's not equaling out. Everything's getting expensive. People are still making the same amount of money. Oh my gosh. So it's kind of, yeah.

Yeah, it's fucked up, dude. I don't know. Yeah, what do you go? I mean, that is wild. You definitely had to pay attention to happy hours and deals. Yeah, yeah. And places that are like offering that kind of thing. And don't get me wrong.

I mean, I know ultimately like, do I think this will pass? Yes. I don't know how long it'll be. It is an election year. and crazy shadows happens in election years as we have seen for the last 20-something fucking years. But that may be a thing too.

Who knows? Maybe the market will come crashing down and the fucking cost of everything will drive back down. It has to get to a popping and a boiling point where eventually it's like, okay, cool, now nothing is happening because nobody can afford it up here. So it has to pop and come back down so that people start fucking

reinvesting in the economy and all that shit. At least that's how I see it. I could be completely fucking wrong, but that's just I guess that's kind of the way I'm looking at it You know what I mean? Yeah What if Suicide Silence blows up again? Because no one knows this

But yeah, during like the last crash Yeah We didn't know Because like that Because we started popping Because like the cleansing came out And no no ton of bleed So you guys were chilling

So we didn't know So we were here and like Dude it's like a We're in like a recession right now And we're like Our shit's in hot top And like yeah, like we're actually getting money as opposed to no money. It's like we we know so I think During elections or during the crashes, that's when we rise. So so maybe it might be the stars might be

Aligning dude. It's a it's a new it's a new record year for us dude. We're about to start writing like who knows dude who knows I know yeah we're having trials for for drummers to start writing like the new record it's gonna be fucking sick dude yeah you know you got you know I know quite a few Okay. Quite a few. Yeah, I mean, send me their Instagram. I'll hit you with their links, dude, for sure.

I found out a, I have a new pet peeve. Oh? Yeah. Oh, dang. Zach knows. Zach got fired up right now, dude. Zach knows.

Let me fucking hear it, dude. When I hear two drummers start talking for at least 10 minutes, I get my blood charge to boil. Maybe because I'm just fucking jaded and seasoned Jaded and seasoned that's a crazy combination He said I'm jaded and seasoned Yeah, I like that though Yeah I'm just cajined

I'm gonna curly fries season Damn he's over seasoned bro Like that one chip in the Doritos bag That's caked and fucking seasoning I'm burnt dude I'm burn. If I hear two drummers talking about one or ten minutes, dude, give me the fuck out of there.

Garza said he's going to go play in traffic. If you fucking, here's another two drummers talking to each other. Dude, I'm the next standoff for sure in the freeway. I'm the next standoff. The only person that makes me sane is my lady. You fucked it. You took it and you fucked it. You ruined it.

I'm kidding. Dude. Did Dan Kenny text you last night to tell you about the explosion? Explosion. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, so if Dan Kinney will text us past 9 p.m., I don't take, I don't take seriously. So. And wait, wait, real quick. I made a mistake like last week. It was like midnight. I was like having like a conversation with him. Yeah. What am I doing? I put my phone on and I went to bed. You, Chris, you're fucking idiot. It got me. Got me. Got me once. He does that. He does that too. He got me once, dude. So he posted on Facebook. He was like, hey, did anyone in Temecula just hear that giant explosion? He was.

He's like, it rocked, like, shook the house and, like, woke me up and whatnot. And so I just, I texted him. I was like, yo, you good? Like, everything okay? And he was like, no, dude, this fucking, like, this crazy loud explosion just happened. He's like, and no one's talking about it. He's like, it literally shook the fucking house. I looked outside and he's like, and there was like a plume of smoke, but it like dissipated kind of quickly.

And I just was like, it was like a big ass firework. Someone lighting off like a fucking stick of dynamite or something, you know what I mean? Was he high? I don't know. D. Dude, he literally was like, he's like, I bet you guys probably all think I'm fucking crazy. I'm like, no, I don't. Like, I believe you, but like, what could it have been?

I think you're all crazy. He was just like, he's like, it's not a firework. Like, it was bigger than that. And I'm like, dude, have you ever heard a stick of dynamite golf? It's loud as fuck. Whenever I need music gear, I always go to sweetwater.com. If it's mics, headphones, or studio and recording gear, sweetwater has you covered. Next time you need any music gear, support the podcast by using the link in a description and

comment section below. Like, really. Like, and kids have access to that shit. Do you when they're buying illegal fireworks? Like, you can find that kind of, but literally, we ended up just like going back and forth for like 30 minutes and text message. Like, just laid in bed. I'm like, dude.

Oh, my goodness. He goes, I'm going to let this go. This is dumb. He's like, if it was a firework, I don't know. But there's no way it was. I'm just like, all right, Dan Kenny. Like, fuck it. Oh, my goodness.

That sounds like a, like a big waste of time. I kind of want to roast them in the group chat, but I'm going to wait. I'm gonna wait because I know in like another hour or two He's gonna be like see look it made the news I found it and this is what it was or something So I'm just gonna wait I'm gonna wait a little bit You are like you are a little bit more Paranoia is not the word like when you hear when you're high in bed and you hear noises you're like What's that? Oh yeah for sure

Fuck's that for sure Especially when like when you lay in bed like reality kind of sets in sometimes when when you're really high in bed trying to sleep Oh man what if like Especially now we're getting into that season where, you know, you want to have, like, the window open, but there's just, like, these thoughts are popping in when your mind starts going there. You're like, dude, what if someone breaks in here? Like, the window's open.

I'm asleep. But you get, paranoid. It might be a little bit of paranoid, but there's, I think it's more like reality. Yeah, especially in a heightened state, dude. Like, if you're high or a little buzzer or whatever, like, I mean, like, admittedly, like, at my house or whatever, because I, you know, you know, you're just, you're just, you're, You know, my fucking bedroom is up on the second floor. I sleep with the window open all year long.

I like it fucking freezing, so I sleep with the window open. And my condo is close enough to the freeway. I'm used to it when semis come by and their tire blows. You've heard of semi-tire, but it's loud as fuck, too. It's like an explosion. I'm used to it now. Like, I hear it, I'm just like, oh, it's a truck. You know what I mean?

Now, yeah, maybe that's a bit different for Dan Kenny, because his house is kind of fucking, like, out, not in the sticks, but it's like, you know, it's far enough from the freeway that, like, he wouldn't hear that. Yeah. But he also has that big-ass ravine. Yeah. That separates his block from, like, the fucking neighborhood and shit, you know what I mean?

And you know kids go in there and fucking light stupid shit on fire. 100%. If I was a kid who lived in Temecula had nothing to do, I would do the same fucking thing, too. And I'm sure that's what it was. And it just ricocheted and was loud as fuck. He's like, dude, like, it's probably aliens or something. He's like, no one's going to believe me. I'm just like, okay, Dancony.

Dude, if I, if I live next to a, like what do you call that again it's like a ravine ravine it's just like it's an empty lake bed okay if I if I was if I lived by there I was going there as a kid just look for porn because that's

that's what I would do because that that's what you did I look go in there and it's look for a good time you know and you might you might find something you never know you really never know just started fucking jacking it in you know what I said just power jacking it in the

dry lake bed, bro, fucking. Do quick fucking power jack, dude. You gotta water the plants, dude. You're like, what, like eight, nine years old is fucking... Oh my God, dude. You like, can't even have a full boner yet, but you're just like... He's like got a half-trub, dude, fucking. You're just looking for that heaven on paper, dude.

You know what I'm saying? Damn, dude. Garza woke up fucking fired up today, dude. I can tell, dude. I can see it in his eyes, dude. I'm not quite sure if this is going to make the podcast good or ruin it, but I haven't I have not eaten yet. Neither why.

So I'm like, I'm fasting right now. So I might be... But yeah, back in a day to you, I mean, yeah, the first pair of titties I saw were like, I think, yeah, it was in the orange groves in Corona. Yeah, because, yeah, you will, remember, you will find porn. Like on the ground and shit, yeah. Along the train tracks, fucking, just walking around, being a shithead kid, didn't be like, oh, what the fuck? Oh, shit, dude. What is that?

From some leftover homeless encampment, you know what I mean? What is that, dude? Pages are probably stuck together, dude. Just for that fucking, this fucking love pages, dude. This fucking fawn and love in the forest. Being an adult is so tight, dude. It is. It is, man.

Oh, my God. So yeah, man, what's on your mind, dude? These next two shows coming up, dude. Like, I know we did Indonesia, and it's been, a couple, well, yeah, a couple weeks or whatever have you, and then we just did this this last minute Fender show. But like,

you know what I mean? Like, yeah, we have this like amount of time off and stuff like that. And really like, you know, with everything that's been happening in our personal lives and all that shit, like I really needed that Fender show. Like it was awesome to like get that release and get it out, but now I'm fucking real stoked for fucking

like mayhem. Like, and I actually I'm really pumped at like, yeah there is a couple of the shitheads that are like oh like why is bad omen's headlining this festival it's like dude because they're a fucking massive band and they're a fucking hot new young band like of cool why wouldn't they you know what i mean yeah and they're sick like but i've really like the lineup is fucking stellar i'm fucking pumped on it and i think it's gonna be fucking huge that's a massive home show for us like we haven't played a big show in front of i keep bringing up to you guys but the only mental hardcore festival is the first one in september we haven't played a massive show in front of our people in a long time. In a super long time. Because it's been like the Danny woman like radio fest. So it's like we're playing in front of a lot of people. But it's not.

It's like a mix of people. It's a big mix of people. Yes. Like the mayhams and like the metal. I mean that this is our people. Yeah. So like strictly like metal. Yeah.

We really haven't showed like the scene yet like exactly what we've been doing the past few years. Just fucking mopping floors dude. Mopping the fucking floor dude. Not not bad for it. Watch the fucking band. Not bad for. for your shitty deathcore band.

Not bad for a fucking shitty shitty drummer, you know what I'm saying? I'm like a fucking six at best, you know what I mean? What would you rate your drumming from a zero to ten? Should I go first? Yeah, I know what you would rate it. You're gonna even like a fucking two and a half.

No, I'm not an asshole. I'm kidding. I'm joking. Yeah, what would you rate it? Hmm. Today. if I were to rate you today not what you're going to be in a month from now

or or by the shows right now you're like a fucking you're all fucking 6.9 I'm not gonna lie I thought it was gonna be worse than that to be honest I mean if I'm being completely honest with myself too

that's about where I feel I'm at right now also but it's also because well yeah we have this downtime I'm a bit out of rehearsal because I've been working full time and all that shit but other than like temporarily. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. But also,

like anything, and it's not to like sound like, oh yeah, I've been fucking doing it forever whatever, like, yeah, like I have, but like for me knocking off the dust happens really quick. Like if I get a good, like, solid fucking week or two of like rehearsal on my own and then we jam

before like leaving on tour or doing a festival or like, I'm fucking like it tightens up really quick. I try to like even if I'm, like, even if I'm not like you know physically behind the kit you know my my awesome awesome fucking ADHD keeps me fucking tapping all the time so if I'm at home watching TV or doing something else you know fucking folding laundry if my hands are busy my feet are fucking tapping and still oh your hands are

definitely busy that's what it's yeah you're fucking tap you're fucking tapping that fucking itchy dick all the time you have an itchy groin dude for sure. That's what you don't text me back. This guy is not texting me back because you're just fucking... I'm just busy power jacking it, dude. Every minute, every hour.

You're just fucking... You're just fucking tapping it, dude. Look at these things are fucking beat up, bro. That's what I'm kidding. Fucking double slap jacking it, dude. Jesus Christ, dude. Just fucking double fist in, dude. You got to give yourself the old stranger

every now and again, dude. Left hand for fucking good measure, you know what? Yeah, that's called. balance, man. You know what I mean? You gotta balance your body. But no, I actually appreciate that score of a 6.90. Like, I thought he was actually gonna fucking just be like, yeah, you're like at 1.7 right now. I do. I'll, I mean, be honest, like, I'll rate myself 4.9. I'm not, I'm not in a good, a good spot right now. I think you're being a little harsh on yourself. And I, and I say that as somebody who's

really tough on themselves. Like, I, I, you're, the score is higher than that. for sure. I think that's why I'm depressed because I'm just fucking playing sloppy, dude. Slop sloppy around. Those fucking, those videos from the Fender Show say otherwise, man. They were good. We sounded good. We sounded good. I think all of us were

pleasantly surprised at how rehearsed we sounded for not being very fucking rehearsed and for not. We've played one fucking show before that one in the last two months, three months or whatever. You know what I mean? It's not bad.

And I get it at a certain fucking, we've been doing it so long. You guys have been doing it so long, and I've been doing it so long, you know, separately and now together. It's almost just like, you kind of like, in a weird way, like, know how to turn it on to get the job done, you know what I mean? And yeah, it probably wasn't the best, but I also know we've had way worse fucking shows and played far sloppier. You know what I mean?

And I actually just think maybe because of where we are in our career and, like, age and stuff like that, we all just kind of like, $10. hold ourselves to a higher standard when it comes to like playing you know what i mean and so you don't want to you don't want to go on stage and and look or sound shitty yeah you know what i mean so i think i think there's a lot of it kind of like goes goes hand in hand with that too and so like you know whether it's a crowd of 250 people or fucking you know 23 000 fucking people we're gonna give it 110 and and and and whatever the whatever the

setbacks may be we're still going to give it 110 and play as best as we can you know what I mean I feel like we all do that anyway yeah yeah yeah yeah I've been playing guitar for over 25 years I'm still this bad 25 years not even fucking close no it's just you know fucking this is life life uh trying to find time

trying to create and design more time throughout the day. If, do I write it down often? Something you gotta get to write down shit that's on your mind. It helps you process. I'm like, yeah, it does, dude. The number one priority besides like,

obviously, like relationships and stuff. But number one is like, everything I do, everything is all about the guitar. If it wasn't about this podcast, when it's nothing would be, nothing would exist without that one thing. And I've been putting it last. I'm just trying to design a day.

day where it's like that's actually first and I designed the day around that. Yes. As opposed to everything revolves around the podcast and this, obviously we all have live errands and just, I mean, our days just fly by in the week. Just fucking, I don't know where they go anymore. It's like it's backwards. Everything is like upside down. Yeah.

But yeah, when you break it down to its core, dude, the guitar started all this for you, which is fucking crazy. It's crazy. You know what I mean? It's crazy. And here you are. You know what I mean? So yeah, like, I see that.

You know what I mean? Same shit, dude. I mean, drums is what started all this for me too. Like, you know, I went from fucking hitting soap buckets and fucking coffee cans in my grandpa's fucking garage to now I've been around the world a couple fucking times. And that's pretty fucking wild. You know what I mean? Like, you know, to like, sometimes you do.

You just, you kind of sit and reflect back on shit and like where it all began, how it started. What made you, what made it click? even at a young fucking age or whatever have you it's like it's it's kind of crazy too when you like when you as an adult when you look back and think about those kinds of things like damn like what prompted that what made me be like huh I want to do that you know what I mean like and like I say and this is fucking true anyway anyone that's a fucking musician full time part time touring not tour if if you're a fucking touring musician or you gave your life to a band full-time time dude you are out of your fucking mind dude it is a special kind of crazy person and cycle to do

to do this shit dude i was just fucking thinking about this thing like like a few days ago like every literally uh every person that pursues anything like a sports uh music arts anything that pursues something they're all we're all fucking crazy absolutely absolutely even people that might seem the outside of life they have their shit together you have to have your balance has to be in life like no balance you you you have you have to be out of whack dude it has to be some element of chaos dude you have to be fucking crazy to do this like where in some people where in some people's lives like you know they they like fucking freak out and like try to avoid the chaos you know because they want some fucking quiet in their life you know i'm not saying i don't either obviously you know

you know, things change as you get older and shit like that, but it's like, we kind of thrive on the chaos. I know that's a corny fucking line and it's been used before, but it is fucking true. Like people, musicians and anyone alike, entertainers, you know, athletes, you know, whatever, whatever have you, extreme like athletes and shit like that. We're missing something upstairs, dude. Totally. And fucking whatever that is seems to, like, translate into like our craft. and what we do and it's like, you know, it's like the same way, like there's a, you know,

like adrenaline junkies, like people that fucking, you know, go skydiving, jump out of fucking planes, race fucking cars, shit like that. Like, that's how they get that fill of dopamine from that shit. Like they, the adrenaline junkie shit. Like, that's the same feeling for us. Like, you know, walking out at like fucking, you know, with full force festival and playing for fucking 30,000 fucking people. You see a fucking sea of people.

Start jumping up and down when we start fucking playing it's like you get high. You get fucking you get fucked up on adrenaline. You're just like, yeah, that's sick as fuck. And I think it is because we lack something in our brain or have something extra that makes you that way. You know what I mean? No, what fucking what six-year-old goes that? I want to do that. That's not normal.

You know what? At least I don't think it is. You know what I mean? Like, sure, you can know. which I think that, you know, your brain is constantly forming ideas and thoughts, even, you know, as a young fucking, as a young kid, child growing up or whatever. But, like, to just know at that early of an age when you're, I mean, your whole fucking frontal lobe hasn't even formed yet. And you're just like, yeah. I still hasn't.

I want, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fucking 37 and I'm still fucking figuring it out. Yeah. Um, you know, but it's like, yeah, it truly takes somebody fucking out of their fucking minds in the best way possible to like to really, to really, you.

eat, sleep, and breathe that shit. You know what I mean? Because like you said, no normal person could step into what we do and survive it. Fuck, no, dude. No way. They would implode. Yeah, I remember when we were, I guess you could say we were, we weren't looking for singers, but we were open to it. I think the whole thing with Eddie was just starting to brew.

I remember, like, seeing like some DMs. Oh, dude, I could sing for suicide songs, dude. I didn't let me, people are like bugging me. Oh, yeah, dude. I'll look at every message, and in my head, I was like, you will fucking kill yourself. If you step in these shoes, your brain thinks you can handle. You will float. You will implode and probably shoot yourself in the fucking head.

That, dude, and it's kind of funny that you brought that up right now. That was something I hadn't thought about in a long time. And again, this was maybe a couple weeks ago. And I didn't even bring it up because it wasn't like anything like even like bringing up worthy. But right now that you brought that up is kind of crazy. I was going down a YouTube rabbit hole. like in bed just at night I was, you know,

going, uh, um, and one of the, like, one of the, like the videos that auto played after what I was watching, it pulled up the clip of,

uh, I think the band page uploaded it or someone uploaded it, of Eddie's sample of Yolo. Oh yeah, yeah. And I hadn't heard that shit in forever. And I was like, oh yeah,

I forgot that there was a fucking, a version of this with Eddie singing the parts or whatever. And then I started remembering when, when Mitch passed, how fast people were like putting up fucking tryout videos like on their own

just being like what the fuck dude like that's crazy and no disrespect but some of them were fucking awful and they were just putting it up

with their whole chest and I kind of respect it I'm like yo like you're shooting your shot and you know what I mean and I'm sure some of those people are probably phenomenal vocalists now and hopefully in cool bands

doing something you know what I mean but like yeah I remember what a fucking like massive deal that was And you could like, there was people that you could clearly see it's like you're in so fucking far over your head, dude, you would never last a fucking day doing this. Like, you know, respectfully. It's just like, no. Like, it's a, yeah, it's a, it's a gut feeling.

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. That's something that no one gives Eddie credit for. It's like, this is like who's going to, even if you sucked, like, just join the band. Who could like emotionally handle this? Yeah. Who could handle this.

You get through all the names you want, even your own, but can you emotionally handle it? handle it. The answer is no. No. You can't. Even like me, I love this. I still kind of fucking freak out. And think about that. Do you think about the level of crazy? Think about the level of crazy it takes to be like, I'm going to step in and fill the shoes of

a legend. You can fucking say whatever you want about it, dude. You can love the guy, you can hate the guy, you can shit talk him, you can praise him. Doing that shit and at the time, that's terrifying bro who the fuck would have been like yeah i could fill mitch lucker's shoes i would have laughed at everyone i'm been like none of you like why i was yeah yeah like really really and that was me looking from the outside in as someone who was just adjacent to what was going on and a fan you know what i mean which is fucking gnarly you're just like what the fuck like you know and of course you know by the time

by the time you guys did the uh you know the memorial show and all that shit you know i of course everybody's first instinct was to be like, oh, so these are trials, that's what this is. It's like, these are people that are potentially going to be in the fucking man. And it's like, dude, whether any of that was true or not, this was just way more of a way to pay homage to fucking Mitch and his friends coming together to do a nice thing. But it's just like, you know, again, and everyone was like, oh, it's definitely going to be this dude. Or it's going to be this guy, you know, he killed this cover. You know, he really killed it on this song.

And it's just like, I don't even know that any of those people were actually vying for a position. It was just more just, you know, paying their fucking respects and, you know, donating some money and all that shit and whatnot. But, like, yeah, dude, the thought of stepping into somebody like Mitch's fucking shoes is just daunting on its own. Whether you have the talent or not. Like, even having just the brain to be like, I'll do it. That takes fucking nuts, dude. It takes fucking huge balls. Yeah, that's a, that's the bad crazy.

For sure. Yeah, that's like, oh, you. For sure. That's the, that's the, that's the, uh, delusion part. You know. For sure. For sure. I mean, fuck, dude.

Obviously, you know, and this, again, this is a no way shape or form a dis at all. But even now, every now and again, I'll still see a comment where they were like, this new drummer is not as good as the original. You know, I'm just like, okay, whatever. You know what I mean? Like, I get it. I replayed somebody who was a prominent figure in the band. He was a better drummer.

You know what? We all know that. Wait, what? What? I saw you, you were telling your story? Keep going. No, but you know what I mean? And honestly, like, when, you know, when we sit down and had our conversation and all that shit,

I would like, yeah, I was confident because I wanted, you know, I was like, yeah, like, absolutely. I would love to fucking, you know, do the gig or whatever. But I'd be lying if I said, I'm like, well, I can't wait to start getting the hate from people who were like, I can't believe after, you know, fucking 16 years, 17 years of this guy being in the band, they would just fucking replace him like that. And it's like, things change, dude. People fucking change. you know like it's i don't know it's but it's like yeah i remember kind of like feeling like that

for a little bit and then seeing those first couple comments where people were like this fucking band will be nothing without fucking Alex Lopez and longs and i'm just like dude like it's not it's not that serious first of all like it's not it's not that deep and it's not it's not to lessen the situation any you know or say like oh it's different because he didn't pass away or whatever happened it's just like okay yeah you know lineups fucking change all the fucking time i'm very i'm very grateful for the people that have you know, welcomed me into the fold of open arms and are open to being like, oh, okay,

he's a completely different drummer. The styles are not the same, but different. You know, and some people can be like, okay, some people can say that fucking, ah, I'm not the right fucking fit for the band. Okay, well, I'm here, and so you guys are all gonna have to fucking deal with it anyway. But, uh, you know, yeah.

Anything else? Anything else pointless to say right now? We're all crazy. We're all fucking crazy. If you want to do this, you have to be out of your fucking mind. Well, yeah, this is actually a perfect segue Which is the main subject I wanted to tackle

And I waited to do this in public Because that's how I like to handle things now What's up with you and the suicide sounds podcast? You're okay, there's been two Where you're having panic attacks during the podcast Oh, dude What's been going on, dude? I don't honestly, man

It's funny because you're just sitting there People are just like watching or listening They had no idea of how it's going on But I'm like, you're having panic attacks Yeah, dude It has happened twice. I don't know. Well, okay, well, the first one, the first one when it happened,

I was fucking so over-caffinated and on an empty stomach that I got, like, I did that, I did like the classic like old school fucking freak out where like my body kind of tingled a bit and when I used to get panic attacks really bad back in my 20s, if like when I would feel like my fingers fucking tingle, I would just immediately send me into like fight or fucking flight mode and I would just like I would just like lock up and I'm like fuck I could feel it like coming on and I was like oh I'm on camera

right now this would be a really bad time for this to happen I think just because I was sitting there thinking about it it like it like sweltered up and I was like holy shit like really like right now you know what I mean and uh this last one though I don't know I was fine like I was fine and then all of a sudden I was like oh what the fuck like and I hate that sometimes like that's just how it happens and yeah like

and I can tell you the last time I had one it was on the Lamb of God Tour we might have talked about it we were in Michigan at the Detroit Lottery Center on the Lamb of God Tour we got done playing

and Ed was like hey come with me to go grab my friend he's in the crowd I was like okay cool like yeah I'll go with you so me and him walked over to go get his friend and as we walked into the crowd crowd, you know what I mean? Like, I don't like being in tight spaces like there with like a lot of people like crowding around.

And I know it wasn't my fault, but, you know, the both of us walked in the crowd. Naturally, some people approached us. They were like, oh, hey, can we take picture real quick? Sure, no problem. Took a picture. And I was like, hey, like, where's your homey at? He's like, oh, over there. And so we walked further in the crowd.

And as the crowd got like tighter around me, dude, I immediately was just like, oh, shit. And I just grabbed Ed by the shoulder. And I was like, hey, man, get your homie. I'm going to go back to the bus. was like, are you okay? And I was like, I think so. And I turned around and just like fucking power walked right back to where the trailers

and the bus was at. And I'm, I'd like, I walked past catering. I saw Mark. And Mark looked at me and he was like, you get it? And I was like, no. I just got in the fucking bandwagon. I got in my fucking bunk. I just, I like laid in my bunk.

And that's, that's the day that like, and I guess Mark could tell that I was like fucking freaking out. So he like came up in the van wagon. With pizza. There's some pizza. With pizza. He walked over to the bunk. He was like, he like stuck his hand under the bunk.

He was like, hey, you want piece pizza? And I was like, sure. And I remember just like being like, like, it was like it just like the way it happened. I was like, oh, fuck. Like, I hate when it happens. Because it doesn't happen often anymore. And that's the last time it happened before these last two. And like I said, the first one was definitely the caffeine.

I made my blood pressure spike. And I just was like, oh shit. The second one though, I don't know. It just kind of like, it just fucking came on, dude. But why, by coincidence, twice during? Yeah. I don't know. Honestly, dude, I don't know the science behind it.

I don't know why. I don't know what triggered it out. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. I'm just like, fuck, man. And I do know that I hate when it happens, for sure. It's annoying as fuck. And I'm just like.

Do you think it's because you're not sleeping ever? Dude, okay. So I actually have been getting, like, decent fucking sleep. Like, contrary to what we talk about, dude, I've actually been getting like a good night's fucking sleep. And it is because I am tiring myself out now, dude. I'm fucking, I'm working every day. I'm working out. I'm eating right. Like, I'm, like, I'm not just sitting around doing nothing. You know what I mean? So it's like, when I do go home, it's like I finish up whatever I need to do at the house, whether it's like

fucking laundry or cleaning or whatever have you. And I, and I actually lay down at kind of a decent fucking hour. Like, I'm in bed by like, fucking, I'm in bed by like 11, 11.30. And it does still take me an hour, hour and change to fall asleep. But I'm also, I am also working more at putting the phone down too, because that was also my biggest habit too, was being on the phone at night. Oh, no. Because I couldn't sleep, and I would just start going down the fucking rabbit hole. And I haven't completely ditched it. There's some nights where it's just like, you know what I mean? And then other nights where I'm just like, I'll put it down or I'll plug it in and turn on my side or whatever and just let the fucking background noise from the TV fucking play, and I'll just knot off.

And like, and it's kind of cool. not even setting an alarm and on my body's getting up at time it needs you so I have enough time to work out and fucking get to work on time so it's kind of sick but yeah it was just I was really like what the fuck like yeah I don't know that that second one got me where I was like like like my chest got tight and shit I was like oh god no not now like you know I was curious I'm like one of your ass do with this horrible sleep patterns or the fact he likes to re-comments and that shit will that she would add up like too I keep telling you are you had the personality of like You are not, I can read comments.

I mean, I don't. But I had the mind for it. You do not have the mind for it. And you still do it. It makes it really terrible for you, man. Both for your pang attacks and your ego. One, because drummers have massive egos. Your ego is definitely, I want to say, balanced.

So when drummers read comments, it's just terrible. It's terrible for you. And plus, but you have like the anxiety apart with it as well. Yeah. but also same thing like I mean I haven't like if I'm if I'm being honest I haven't like I've looked at comments but I haven't like read anything

that would like set me off or like you know what I'm like I'll fuck this person nothing dude like everything has again so far that I've seen anyways has been pretty like overwhelmingly positive and even like I guess even the stuff that's not it's not like bad where you know I've read like one or two

like from our like episodes like this where they're like This guy fucking talks too much Or he says the word like too much And I'm just like, well, yeah It's part of my lingo It's a podcast We're supposed to talk to each other And just fucking sit here and stare at each other

You know what I mean? But that's the worst of it Just a staring contest Staring contest Go, dude Hey, also Side note, I literally on the way over here I was like

I was on the drive-thru at Starbucks I was like on my phone Looking at a At Twitter Does Dana White Own the slap boxing thing? Fuck yeah I didn't fucking know that

No, I just fucking found that I didn't know that was his thing Fuck yeah he does That full straight up said That slap boxing Is pulling more viewers Than fucking What did he say?

I have to go back and find it But like, and they were like Do you really believe that? He was like absolutely I didn't, I had no idea I don't know that was his deal Power slap has massive numbers dude Oh yeah

I'm saying to you We gotta have a power slap match around when we dropped the record. 100%. By the way, I hope he watches this, but shout out Nick Vega. When we were at Fender, he was just like, hey, bro, come here for a second. I'm like, what's up?

Hey, bro, he's like, you and fucking guards aren't really going to fucking slap each other, are you? I was just like, yeah. Like, fuck yeah, he goes. If it comes up. He goes, bro, don't do it, man. Guarantee when are you guys is going to get hurt, man? Like, when are you guys is like, you're going to get concussed? I was like, bro, I've had four fucking concussions,

and I'm still fucking retarded. Do you? Like, you really think it makes a difference? It's like, I've been stupid my whole fucking life. I don't think another hit to the head's going to really change anything these days, you know? He's just like, you know, like, dude, like, I love you guys. You're my boys, man. But, like, I feel like it's a bad idea. And I'm like, if it happens, it happens, dude.

You already did the face off. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, we already did the fucking face off. Yeah, we got the face off. But here's the thing. I also, I also appreciate Vega, like, being a good homie and looking out. But I also know the moment it, like, actually happens, he's going to be like, God, fuck, dude, he's going to be all stoked anyway.

He's going to get hammer and watch it. He's literally going to get a fucking drunk hammered. Shout out Signor Flaps, dude. He knows who he is. For sure. Yeah, I think Dana's own power slap were about 15 months. Okay, so it is a new thing, like, in terms of, like, him, like, acquiring it. Those numbers are massive, dude.

That's fucking, that's crazy. That's insane. Like, who the fuck would have thought? Like, oh, yeah. Power slapping. Like, it still makes me laugh now, dude. But that's serious, though. Like, that's fucking tight.

Dana White was like, I'm going to invest money in this and just fucking make it fucking huge. And here we are, dude. I thought it was a fucking joke, dude. When I read that, I was like, this has got to be clickbait. Somebody's just putting this fucking stupid thing up. But I read it, I was like, he's serious. No, that's why someone has to contact Dana White. Hey, this is really washed up band.

And they're down to slap each other. So we'll raise money for fucking charity, dude, slap the shit out of each other. Dude, if I see the right flyer, yeah, I know, I know. I haven't seen... We've gotten one or two. They were decent, but, you know... I want an official power slap, a logo,

Dana White in a background, Photoshop, sick as fuck. Like, flyer. If I see that, I'll be like, we're slapping each other. It's gonna happen, dude. What do we do, a power slap at Mayhem? I mean, it'd have to be after the set.

Obviously, we don't want to fuck our shit up before going on, but, I mean... I'm not opposed to it. In the, in, like, the VIP area. True. Also, yeah, that's, you know what? That'd be sick. Again, all jokes aside, like, I know that obviously, you know, we just announced, or they just announced the lineup for mayhem and all that stuff.

I wonder, as we get closer to the date, obviously, it's in October. But, like, I wonder if it's going to have, like, the same stuff that, like, OG mayhem had, like, you know, like, crazy, like, side stuff. like, BMX, Motorcross and all that shit. Like, dude, I,

you don't remember Mayhem was fucking wild, dude. Mayhem was so sick, dude. And I'm, and I'm fucking,

I'm thrilled. Because that's also a full circle moment for me too. I've never played a mayhem. I've attended a lot of them. And I get to, I get to fucking experience mayhem for the first time, dude.

And I'm pretty sick. And I'm, yeah. And it's at home in San Bernardino. Like, like, where it, like, blew up and,

like, started, like, for a lot of people. Like that's sick as hell It's pretty crazy It's fucking crazy It's really cool

Well I guess if we could spill the beans now The next guest Next week will be Ash So Ash will be the one You got him dude The guy that's Responsible for it man Responsible for

Mayhem coming back I just want to pick his brain You know his mindset behind it He's also behind Summer Slaughter as well Yeah Yeah It's rare when I want to kind of get

In like the behind the scene stuff I think people need to hear it Absolutely So he's, so he'll be here next Monday. Damn, I'm excited for you. That's fucking bad. I'm off Monday, dude. I don't work Monday.

Yeah? We'll probably get like a lunch after or something. Oh, man, dude. Probably get lunch now. In a bit, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, dude, ma'am's gonna be fucking sad. It's gonna be, it's gonna be incredible.

It's gonna be incredible. I, uh, and it was a perfect time to announce it, plenty of time to fucking roll out for tickets and all that stuff. Like, and it's, again, legendary fucking area legendary venue a massive

home show for us again another huge another huge win for us for the sui camp it's a massive win for us I mean people don't absolutely people don't realize but if you look at

look at the flyer and look at where our logo is we never we lost the spot and went and busted our ass for years and got that same spot back

we're direct support on our stage. And that's the spot we've built ourselves to and then that's when Mayhem stopped and then that's when the self-tel record came out and blah, blah, blah, et cetera. So we were direct support

the cannibal on at the last one and then we brought the subtitle and we all know what happened. So we busted her ass and we're at the same fucking spot. No one knows that. So I literally have to say it.

It sucks. I had to talk about our band sometimes but people don't put two and you together. No, for sure. And same thing. I was really like again going back to like reading I mean dude

oh my gosh no no no no no this is actually really neat like this is actually really cool because I went Here's another panic attack No no no not at all I went and like you know I text you guys

I'm like hey lineups out I'll go ahead and repost it to our socials or whatever and Jason posted to our page and all that stuff for us Good so many people were like why isn't Suey headlining this thing they should be way higher up on the fucking bill

Of course that feels good to see you know that people give a fuck still you know what I mean but also I like and I didn't go and like comment anything back but in my mind like I think people sometimes also fucking forget when you're looking at like festival billing you know obviously the whoever the main headliners on the main stage are are gonna be at the fucking top of course and so there's a lot of people that think we're like fucking oh that spot is so shitty and like far down unless it's like nah we're pretty high on the fucking

bill dude like literally direct support like it just doesn't look like that because of the way the bands are stacked on it and so it's like you know You know, it's like more like I want to like respond to people to be like, hey, don't fret, don't fear. Like we have a great fucking time slot. We're direct support. It just doesn't look like that on the fucking billing, you know what I mean? There's also, we won't go too far into it, but there's a couple bands on there that are getting the, what we call it the industry bush. Oh, heavy.

So we won't, and we'll leave it at that. But as far as like our spot, I mean, that's like, yeah. Like, fuck, do we, we fucking clawled, slowly clawed our way back up the mountain and got that same spot. And that's sick. I know some people might be... Yeah. It's gonna be fucking dope, dude.

It's gonna be fucking great. Almost blew my head off the past few years. And, and... And then... Oh my goodness. Here we are. That's October for us, for Suizance. It's gonna be a really pivotal month.

It's a pivotal moment because it's our... It's our personal. It's our light at the end of the tunnel. For many reasons that we can't leave... We talk about as far as contract and stuff. Yeah. But it's a big... moment we've been getting shit on with a lot of stuff and that's that's that's

our month like that's that's our light you know so yes yes it's it's fucking cool man I believe I believe I believe in timing dude I believe in in in shit working itself out man like I know I used to not be that way I used to be kind of fucking pessimistic about shit like that you know but a lot a lot of shit a lot of shit over the last couple months has taught me to think otherwise and look at things differently and that's definitely one of those things where it's like damn the timing couldn't line up more fucking perfect dude literally like kind of kind of fucking crazy you know because yeah we and yeah like you said it dude we've been getting shot on behind the scenes for a lot of reasons and stuff

like that and we've and we've been taking it on the chin and and fighting through it and clawing our way through it and maintaining a fucking a good fucking outlook despite how shitty it could seem sometimes October can't come quick enough I'm stoked I'm stoked as fuck Mm-hmm. Shit's going to be massive, dude. October's going to be such a sick fucking month for us. And we'll close out our ear strong as hell, dude.

We're going to close out our year is fucking horny, dude. On top, dude. Artic's going to be itchy, dude. We're going to be itchy as fuck, dude. You're just going to rub it wherever you can. You know what I'm saying, man? How's your tea going? It's going good.

It's almost out. I got to refill it. Yeah, that's sick, dude. Yeah, man, it feels good Everything, especially yesterday Yeah, I went with a fender all day Sometimes you just have these days And everything, you know what?

Everything feels good. Everything's the lining. Timing will always have its way. For sure. Timing will always be right. It goes on its own time. Straight up. It's always going to win.

Yeah. So this is nice. I came here last night. It's like just blasting the digdale and it's fucking smoking. Oh yeah. I smoke cigarettes now. I smoke cigarettes now

Fuck dude Shit Damn we're gonna have to talk about this dude I get it dude I get it I need to stop dude Yeah Nothing crazy like like one or two a day

But I get it Dude I get it That's how it starts Dude I get it though man It's just when you're A stress isn't the word

a lot going on. So it's just nice. I get it. It's like the whole act of it. Like, I'll go outside on a patio. It's being outside. You're just looking, thinking, smoking. It's a bit. It's become like a comfort habit. And yesterday I caught myself. I was like, walked in, played Dick Dill

in a good movie. I was going to go outside of smoking cigarette. I was like, what the fuck am I doing? What the fuck is this, dude? Damn. 38. Fucking, getting in the habit of smoking like an idiot. He said, hey, bro, it's never too late to start. Amen, brother. Amen, brother. Oh, my goodness, dude. I get it. I get it. Oh, man. And look, yeah, at its core,

don't get me wrong. I know a lot of people that do smoke out of stress, for sure. Like, I mean, out of an abundance of stress. Sure. I'm going to be honest, bro. Even at the end, like, I'm not saying I condone smoking cigarettes or anything like that. I mean, I'm not a smoker myself, but like I will say that you know in recent times

we won't get too deep into it but uh you know I would ultimately say smoking a cigarette's probably a better way to handle stress than some of the ways I've handled fucking stress

not the safest fucking manner so you know I'll give it to you. Do you a cigarette? Yeah it is fucking you know what I mean? Yeah that's the thing when you're older man like you just

in order to to deal with things, you try to find things that are less destructive. Yeah. You're just like, okay, this is like, I'm not, you know. A cigarette? I'm not completely being a piece of shit. You know what I mean? Yeah.

You're not physically hurting yourself or anyone else or anything like that. And I can commend that. You know what I mean? Everyone deals with it fucking differently. But it's so weird, though. I can't envision you smoking a cigarette. Wait, but you guys all smoke cigarettes back in the day, though, didn't you? I didn't know.

You didn't. The guy, Mark and Dan did, though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't, yeah, I was never like, I mean, at that point, like, I smoked, like, five cigarettes in my fucking life. That's, that's still how many I've smoked my entire life. Yeah, it's being super hammered, just having a good time. Yeah, yeah.

I'll fucking smoke a cigarette. Two out of those five cigarettes were, like, blackout nights where I was so fucking tossed, and somebody around me had a cigarette. And my brain was like, that looks awesome right now. And I don't even think I finished the whole thing. I probably took, like, fucking three or four drags and just, like, fucking tossed it out. But just something about it was like, but that was also. you know, I was like 24. Yeah.

I feel so good, man. But also, I know that I do it knowing that I don't look cool because I don't know what I'm doing. So I'm doing it because I genuinely want to smoke a cigarette. I know I don't see a little cigarette like this. I don't look cool doing it. I know I don't. Like a jay.

Yeah. I know I don't look cool doing it. Like this? Like this? Dude fucking. Fuck you guys, man. I'm kidding. I'm talking.

Two drummers fucking talking smack. See, there we go. He's going to pull the cigarettes out right. Now I do he's like, I'm fucking stressed, dude. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's like, how do you light it? How do you puff it? How do you put it out? How do you stand?

I'm like, legs cross, legs uncross. What's the move? How do I do this? Do I fucking tap my dick when I'm, when I smoke, you know, how do you fucking, how do you do it? You know? But, yeah, yeah, I don't know. Melancholic stare. Yeah.

stare off into the distance Yeah, but Dick Dale and cigarettes go hand in hand Dick Dale probably smoked cigarettes while he was playing fucking riffs he probably did That's what I'm saying true I get it man I so I can't I can't talk shit anymore I need to figure my my shit out

Damn not Garza being a Marlboro man dude I see myself smoking for another two months And then putting it down Yeah yeah There's way too much going on the next two months for me not to stop now. You know what? I can admire the commitment, dude.

It feels good. It feels good. There is... As long as you're consistent. Yeah, it's just too much shit going on, dude. I've got to fucking, God. I've got to play. I got to start playing more,

practicing more. Dude, just errands that just... You got to do, you gotta do, like, a pointless stuff. Yeah. You got to do your daily errands or your once a fucking week

You gotta do your errands and it takes this time. Yeah. And because if you don't, then it compounds and then it becomes a bigger fucking issue. And, you know, yeah. Dude, when you let your just daily bullshit just compound? It never ends fucking well, dude. It's bad. It's bad.

I know. Definitely, only you know more than anyone listening and watching. You're fucking idiot. Yeah, I know. But yeah. You got to handle your... Got to handle your business, dude. Got to get it taken care of, man.

Go out grocery shopping, put in your gas, pay for your insurance. insurance, pay your bills. Yeah, he's got to do all of those things that seem pointless, but when you do them, you know, this is. Yeah. There is a level. And you'll notice things, things get easier after, you know what I mean? Less stressful, whatever you want to call it, you know what I mean? Also, so how did yesterday come about?

Did Fender call you to be like, hey, come down to the, like. No, I had to pick up something. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I thought I was just going to go there, like, for a second and pick it when you need to pick up and then leave. But then we started hanging out And then Hey, you want to pick out the body right now? I go, of course, dude.

I got the most dense piece of mahogany Probably in all corona. There's a way shit load it does, huh? Oh, dude, it's a lot. It's gonna fucking break my back. Or make it stronger. Maybe it may make it stronger.

It's bargaining, no, it's, it's gonna break it. That's, that's mahogany, right? Yeah. Yeah. But this one's dense, dude, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you going to do anything else to this one? Are you leaving it the way it is?

Well, uh, yeah, that's one. I'm thinking about because this one when I get the new one This has to be fixed Because Yeah it's got some So they're gonna strip off the paint

Because it's crack inside The body is crack inside So we need to strip it Actually Maybe even like break it And re-glu it Because Get the fuck at

Wait really? Yeah there's like a deep crack Inside the body From like Oh wow Well it's not like rocket science I've been throwing it up in the air And fucking throwing it

At my cab And Yeah I gotta admit The thing holds up dude You cannot fuck with Benner, dude Because you got this one The year before I joined the band? You got what, 21?

Whenever the pandemic was 2020? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, 20 We got it during the virtual tour During 20 So I forgot when that was

I'm trying to forget about that time of my life Yeah, I think it was fall, fall of 20 Yeah Yeah Okay, so you've had this shit almost four years And I mean for almost four years, and I've actually been around it for three of the years, because I did that first Ginger Tour in 21 back, too.

And I watched you drag that fucking thing all up and down the stage, too. Jump off the balcony in Michigan and Detroit, and then get COVID like a fucking ding is. Hell yeah. Worth it. Worth it. That shit was legendary, bro. We were like, where's Garza going? Why is he running through the crowd? I'm like, I know what he's going to do.

I just watched. I'm like, me and Devin were like, dude, one, I was nervous as fuck because, oh, this is a longer watch. I expected. Way fucking, you had to, like, go down all the way to the back and then up. I was sprinting. Oh, this is way longer than I thought. Just getting every stinky dude sweat all over your face, people breathing on you.

I thought I had a lot more time. Oh, dude. And then when I got up the balcony, the song's over. And I'm up there like an idiot. It was worth it. I looked down, oh, this is hard than I expected, too. I can't just walk away now. I can just walk away.

He committed. He committed. You want to fuck it. And I hopped off and got COVID. Gave everyone in the wagon COVID, bro. Dude, we all had COVID. It was fucked up. You, Bob, I wonder, scientifically speaking, if I really, that really was my fault.

I wonder. It's, dude, it's such a, it's such a fucking, like, one of those things where, I mean, it's like, it's like a super cold. Bro, you can cough on somebody and get them fucking sick. You can talk to somebody and get them sick. if saliva transfers even a little, but you can get somebody sick. Like, would it be fair to be like, yeah, you caught it first from someone in the crowd

and talk to Mark or someone in the wagon at close contact afterwards, and it just gets passed around. You know what I mean? Like playing the blame game isn't going to do shit. You guys got sick, you got sick. It is what it is. Were you the carrier back to the wagon?

Probably. That whole night was fucking crazy, dude. And then, that's what I'm saying, your guitar survived that shit. And then it survived your birthday jump in the fucking Alex's kitten. I was like, whole fuck, dude. And you were just holding it with one hand when you jumped.

I was like, that thing's going to fuck. The neck's just going to go, like, for a shirt. Maple and a very strong wood. In fact, that's a testament to Fender's fucking build quality, dude. Nothing happened to the guitar. And Alex's kit got fucking destroyed, dude. Not me and fucking scrummy in the morning the day after trying to fucking piece the hardware back together from bent-ass pieces and shit. I'm like, damn, bro.

That's how you were in pain. That's the first time I was like, you didn't get back up immediately either. I was like, damn, Garza's hurt, dude. Like, he fucking, he went man down, dude. Like, the way he jumped in, he was fucking, oh, yeah, for sure. I'm part of never again. That was, that was, that was God saying, okay, you had a good time for about two years. Now it's, it's time to give it a break.

It's over, dude. It's over, man. Once the high hat hit my eyebrow, I was like, okay, yeah. Dude, I was so, like, just like, oh, no. And I remember just, like I said, looking at you holding your pizza. It was just like, I was like, oh, you're bleeding on your pizza. Oh, my goodness. dude.

That was a night, dude. Atlanta was fucking legendary. He was. Morgan Rose in the fucking house, dude. Seven dust in the crib. Dude, that shit was so sick. I felt so cool. That was the coolest night ever.

That was the coolest fucking night ever, dude. Because I also was like, I got to be a bystander on that tour because I was just out as a tech. And I was like, damn, there's Morgan Rose. That's sick. Even Alex, all of us. Every drummer on the tour was like, Morgan Rose is here. The drummer's drummer.

Literally, dude. And then everyone forgets that he's, like, friends with fucking Devin. from Cain Hill. Like they're super good homies. I was like, damn. I wish I was this cool of friends with fucking with him. And he's hell and nice.

Dude, he's so sick. He's fucking cool. Goat level drummer. Seven Dust. Goate level band. Goate level musicians. Goat level people. Yeah.

Everyone that sees them that says, dude, they were phenomenal. Dude, they are. They were phenomenal band. That's a band's straight up. Yeah. And like you said, that's a band's been around for a long, long time

with an OG ass lineup still. still cranking, still crushing. Still doing it. Still, dude. That's the sickest. Fuck. The best. Any closing thoughts?

I don't know if fasting was a good idea. I could see we're both just like ripped and ready to go right now. Or maybe people say, hey, it was great. And then we get now fasting is the new rule. It did. Hey, it's working for me. That's working for me. Can't be bad for anyone else unless you got like fucked up blood sugar or something like that.

Then maybe, but I don't know. You know. Closing thoughts, man. I'm just excited, man. I'm excited to be here still. I'm excited for all the fucking progress. I'm excited for everything we have coming up. I'm excited for October.

I mean, I'm excited for September, too. Fucking New England's going to be fucking ridiculous. Also, big homie fest. Damn. Shout out our boy who's going to fly in to see us. I can't say who, but he knows who he is. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm trying to name the episode. so right now. Itch. Oh, fuck. Itchy groin, dude.

Oh. The itch grows stronger. Oh, my. Itchy panic attack. Itchy panic attack. Is that your grandkids? Yeah. Itchy panic attack.

Itchy panic attack opening for midlife circumcision, dude. Oh, my goodness. Let's go, dude. Catch us at your local dive bar, dude. Love paper. I love paper Yeah 100% dude

Yeah 100% dude 5 minutes late missed the first you guys So stoked Oh my goodness Okay so everyone Tune in next Monday For Ash

We'll talk about Some of Slaughter The New Mayhem And I'll try to find some questions That I've been seeing Other people ask At a curiosity I'll be doing a solo one

After that And then after that I'm the guest And after that Ernie will be back next month I know you guys can't wait. I could definitely wait.

I know you can. And I hope that this month is very long. So I can have a fucking fucking breed and smoke. I'm probably going to smoke right now. All right. Fuck yeah, dude. All right, everyone. That's it.

I appreciate it. Later. Later.