Garza Podcast - 139 - THE OTHERSIDE

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

Garza talks top 4 rhythm guitar players, writer's block, how to overcome a stutter & much more! SPONSORS: distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF!

What's up, everyone? We are going. Welcome to the second solo episode. What did I do this week? Well, now we actually have Jay helping. Shout out to Jay. The cockroach is gone, I think. Well, he's shown somewhere. What are we, what do we do this week? I went to the cherry action. I saw a goat whore in vitroel. That was pretty sick. Vitcher was like a wall of assault. Just straight to your fucking face. And it's kind of crazy how things work out. I've been really trying slash doing my best. which I think we all, you know, try to do and struggle with, is try to get out of your own way.

And so, yeah, I went to the show, and originally that day was supposed to, Kyle was supposed to be here and do a podcast, but I think they had, they had vehicle troubles. And we had the reschedule. Luckily, they had a, they were California the following days, and had a day off Monday and something strange

happened and I believe this was Friday and Jay has the dates pulled up again but Zach was already here we were already here and we're like okay let's go out and get some breakfast and

kind of a nice spot in Santa Ana nice little Had some egg, avocado toast. Made me feel smart, strong, horned up at the same time. They probably put some honey in that shit. I don't know. It was like sweet. Some sweet, sweet honey nectar.

But, yeah, I went there because he comes from pretty, actually far away. His drive's always pretty long. We were talking. We're talking about what's on. Like, what are we doing for the podcast and what do we, uh, what's been on my mind? It was just funny. And we had an extensive conversation and currently in my life, the way my brain works is that I kind of handle things in real time. Like, it really helps me process my feelings and thoughts when I talk to somebody else.

How is that for you? I mean, do you like, there's something. something about it like sometimes like so much you have questions for yourself but then you answer your own question like just when you bounce off your like your feelings and and and your mind of somebody else you kind of like the answer will kind of bubble up you know and um so yeah we were just talking i'm like uh um anyway thank you for the the reaction of the last episode i was very surprised I was extremely surprised how we even turned out, considering the circumstances. And he's like we're talking and I was decided that conversation.

I kind of realized, you know, there's something, I guess it's, you know, maybe admittedly it's fear-based, but I'm like, we committed to this. I think we're committing to this. And something has drawn me away from this. and I let me call those those are demons which if you listen if you listen to them

they tell you what you have to do so here we are it's just weird how things just work out like that that because one side it's like

oh like the day you can either approach you like oh like the day fell apart the day fell apart we should pack up and leave but what we But we didn't do that.

We just, um, okay, let's just hang out and talk a little bit. But that wouldn't have happened unless virtual rescheduled. And it's just weird how, it's weird how things pan out sometimes.

And how, how we, uh, react to these things. And sometimes we're given signs, uh, that we need to listen to. And,

uh, or sometimes, uh, Sometimes you won't listen to yourself, which I do a lot. And then I don't want to say the word. I won't say it, but you can just assume what I'm going to say. But sometimes someone or something puts a roadblock in front of you. So you can fucking listen to yourself.

So yeah, that was a pretty crazy, it was just nuts. it was this like how like this stream of events that led to this and luckily I'm in a point in my life where I could

I think I'm getting a little better at listening to these things um seeing signs seeing opportunities and uh anyway I'm already ranting but uh

and this was uh yeah it changed uh what seemed like a failure at one moment was actually something that needed to happen and it's just weird this is crazy how things turned out anyway um i found myself getting out of my own way a lot especially the past couple months and It's hard to do It's hard to do

Last night I've been really picky Like Anyway that That show was fucking sick One of my favorite things to do Is drink an IPA Beer

And a train action It has a beer there on tap I think Not on tap It's called Radiant The Brewery and I think that isn't that

brewie like a block away because you get uh because if you show up late like myself you have to like like the parking

you get at the park far away so I always like parked by this brewery and I think is that the same one I should probably check that is a brewery by chair reaction

does uh I think so radiant um Yeah, Jay's checking because I want to kind of give him a shout out. But that beer is pretty sick. Anyway, that's my favorite thing I do. It's just nice just to hear some tunes and chat with people.

And anyway, I left and went home. Last night, anyway, it was cool to see Goat Hoare. Goat Hoare is like, they just, they look exactly how you want them to look. It's like, oh, you look like a whore. That's exactly what. And anyway Sammy the guitar player He's a fucking legend

Ripper So that's probably the most eventful thing I did Last week as far as public But anyway Yeah we rescheduled that podcast with Kyle from Virtual We did that Monday Which I'm really Excited

For all you to see We added something I've been trying to do this literally since the podcast started. So we're talking over three years in the making. It finally happened. And I'm truly grateful for Kyle to trust me. With that, so obviously this, you know, this episode is out.

And you're going to have to wait until next week. But, yeah, years in the making finally did something I've been trying to do. And, yeah, it was pretty sick. Let's see. Last night was, I've been very, I mean, get older, you get picky. Picky with your time and what, who you hang out with, where they're going, what you're doing.

And last night was, Lemma God played at, you know, the forum. Um, I didn't go. Something told me not to go. I didn't. It's weird. I don't know. It's just weird how

obviously I'm processing my thoughts and my feelings at the same time. But I don't know somebody told me not not to go. You know, and I'm in, you know, I love SoCal. I'm born and raised here.

I'm talking about, that's luck. That's a luck of the draw. You know, but you know, I'm in the music industry. so L.A. is like not exactly like a... Damn, that looks fucking sick, dude. Okay, it looks like a lot of fun. Fuck, but, you know,

LA's just a lot. You know? A lot of smoozing. I'm not a smoother, but I shouldn't feel like doing that shit. I didn't feel like doing it. So I stayed here. Stayed here for a while. and then

so I'm just kind of gearing up the first time I'm just gearing up to what I'm about to say is I was I left here around 11 p.m. A little bit later than usual

and drive on the freeway and something was I started listening to the song conformity off our self-titled I just felt like

randomly I just felt like randomly putting that thing on. I was like, oh, you know what? I'm going to jam this record for a long time. I seem to be talking about it. And yeah, I just, I put on that song. And then I was like, it was a mix of confusion, curiosity.

I don't know. It was. I wonder what it's hard to listen to that separate and separate myself because we're so in it. But man, I wonder what like it would have been. It was like another band. Not me. Like what would I what would I hear if it was somebody else? You know?

Like what would other people thought about a song like that if it was if our name that. the band named Suicide Silence was not attached to that. I wonder. I wonder. But that was my first time kind of hearing that song from a little bit more of a fresh perspective because years have passed, I believe. It's funny. I talk about this record often in 2017, right?

Or something like that. But anyway, yeah, just jamming it on their freeway. Tired. And you hear things differently when you're at this. I can't even explain this state. You're tired, also relaxed, exhausted, but still there. Yeah, there's just something about it. there's just something about it.

And, uh, I heard very different things. Now. Here we go again with the, wow. Um, I just heard,

I'm like, because I, yeah, because it ties into the last solo episode. Um, it was like, we were just, yeah,

I was like, I could hear these peeve, these humans try to find themselves again. There's, it's practically impossible. to explain a vision to somebody else. I don't think I could even explain visions to my own band, and they're in the band.

They're in the band. They're a record. I don't even think I could explain it to them. But I was like, there's, it's like, it might sound arrogant, but it was like there's, there's something there. there's something there like is there's golden there you just got to like I heard it

and I'm sorry to see it from a different lens of time sometimes only time can give you that different lens um it's like wow there's some maybe there's something here that we could use

uh for the future and um anyway uh kind of let it go for one more track. I had curiosity. Because it goes, yeah, it goes conformity and then goes like a blast beat song after.

And then I was just hearing something. There's like this, man, there's this. Some of those parts are weird. Like we did like that, it was a blast beat. And then that core, it's like, damn, that's odd. That's different. And then there's a bridge part with like a chug. I was like, oh.

Yeah. I just, I heard something else in there. I heard something else in there. And then, anyway, by that time I got home, um, I got home. It was almost midnight and proceeded to, uh, given to my weakness, which is, I think we could all agree.

Um, I fucking hate when there's cereal in the house. Because we're going to eat it. If there's, if you have cereal in your house, you're fucked. Oh, God. Anyway, yeah, there's this, there's this berry Captain Crunch I have, and my willpower is this fucking fried. I don't want willpower. Fuck the gym. Fuck my six pack.

It's like, I'm, yeah, there it is. Oops, oops all berries. It's the blue box right there. See, that's, that's in my house right now. And it's becoming an issue. This is an issue right now. So, yeah, I went there. I'm like, am I?

This, there's a point in time. where you walk into your house and you have a decision to make and what decision are you going to make are you going to bed are you going to bed like you should like a fucking adult or are you going to grab that cereal who are we in those moments i'm not sure but uh um leo tends to meet me at at the door to get a little snack so we're hanging up a little bit and So he kind of forces me, he kind of forces me into the kitchen area to grab his his late-night snack. And then I'm, and then there comes a moment in time where this reality will face you. And I'm looking up and I see this box of cereal staring back at me. I see Captain Crunch. Is that his name, Captain Crunch? Yeah, is he Captain Crunch?

Jay? Is that his fucking name? Obviously, it's the name of the serial, but who, I wonder. Okay, now we're looking. What's that say? Go, what, what, what's this name? Huh, okay. Interesting.

But, yep, he's Captain Crunch. And this motherfucker, he's, he's staring into my eyes. And he's looking into my soul, and he sees how weak I am in that moment. And I gave in. Gave in. And then, uh, anyway, this is. where the story is this is the purpose of the story

um I started thinking about the record it's like hmm that's interesting and I woke up which is today I thought about it again I thought that I thought

I thought I thought about the record again and um I'm driving here to Santa Ana on the toll road because there's tends to be traffic around around this time Captain Crunch has a shitty mustache I'm gonna his face again right now

he's fucking pissing me off already it's caused me anxiety um anyway and something is anyway it's I'm driving down down the freeway and something is how do I explain how do you explain this something is

telling me not to listen to it what is that something is telling me not to listen to it but I think I know why it's um you know we're we're gearing up for a riding mode and I know once like we really walk in

and that that start button is pressed and things are going to change for the better because right now we're still at like this setup phase and doing a bunch of shit that we haven't done before so it's taking a little bit more time but it's it's worth it and needed and necessary

so um so we're just going along with it and something is telling us me to not listen to that record. It's weird. This is weird how our mind will play tricks on us, but I know I have to. I know I need to. I know this is searching for for gold.

Anything you call those demons, right? Head over to distrochid.com slash VIP slash Garza and save 30% off your membership to get all your songs on all streaming platforms. And now to the heaviest podcast of all time. Anyway, thank you for

submitting your questions. We got some video questions, some maybe one or two current events coming up, some written ones, some video ones. I hope you enjoyed the episode of Meigs. And Mike from Spine Shank. This is the first month when I'm really, we're truly doing exactly what we want to do.

Like, I was in heaven, dude. Talking to two new metal guitar players. I mean, You know that's what I want to do. And man, the stories. Like once that hit one hour, once it hit one hour, I was like, oh, this is going for three hours. I'm not even going to try.

I'm sorry. And I hit three hours, 19 minutes without even trying. Without even trying. And then the woman Kyle that hit over two hours, something is, oh, my mind is, that's cluttered. I think this ties into earlier we gotta get out of our own way I always I always get in my own way

with everything riffing the bands this fucking thing it's really getting out of my own way things allowing things to to happen and this took my whole life

to do it's crazy anyway I think think it's time to uh that's some other notes here but we'll do that for after uh yeah jish we uh hop into some freaking video questions dude let's do it man my first uh first one what's up guys my name's angel um the only question i have is how do you particularly get out of a writer's block because i'm in a predicament where i've been having writers block for like a week

and a half give or take yeah so I just wanted to ask how do you get out of a writer's block hmm oh boy

well the timing of that question is very impeccable I haven't exactly struggled with writer's block but I've experienced lows

of writing and creativity um Ideas have Ideas for this thing and the band have come to a halt And ideas have been coming back And

As far as riffs and Being inspired to play This thing Having ideas for this For the podcast and guests and questions And this actually ties into what we were just talking about earlier With Migs and Mike And having a three hour long conversation

conversation, Kyle effortlessly, over two hours. And this hasn't happened. I think that this Kyle might be the second longest guest we had. And I, um, yeah, it ties into the last solo episode, really been focusing more on myself, uh, clearing this uncuttering of the mind. Um, big things and small things. Uh, getting back the core of things have really opened up new pathways. So small things, for example. What helps me is just literally, it sounds pointless, but it does something. Excuse me.

Is doing errands. Sometimes you just need to clear, again, everything I say, this is not a vice. This is just these are, I just tell you what I do. and was helped me. And these are experience I will share with you. And again, you could, that could help you or you put your own spin on it. Anyway, uh,

errands like cleaning, cleaning your car, uh, washing your car, making your bed, cleaning your room. Um, you know, that,

like we're, it's almost going to be a year since we've been in this particular studio. I didn't clean it, clean it. Like, you don't know in the studio like a month and a half ago. My mind when it's walking, I'm like, man, I don't feel good in here. There's little things like clearing out boxes, putting out cables where they need to go. And so when you walk into a room, you're not thinking about anything.

You're not, there's no anxiety. There's no stress when you walk into a room. It seems, I'm telling you, it seems pointless and I get it. But when you do all these little errands, It does clear your mind. And it gives room for other things to come up. Could be riffs, lyrics, or ideas for your career or your job. These little moments will show up more.

You get these little moments of clarity. Little moments. You know, it helped me. Like, just cleaning this fucking room. cleaning my room like then i came in here i just cleaned it up like oh i don't want to do this i don't want that banner up there that's not me that's not what this is and as you see this whole we redone this whole room is like what is the core of this motherfucker and you know those those those those those those stas kind of had a room when this he's handled some bullshit you know uh being being

being organized, at least for me, being organized does help. Like, I had an issue where I write everything down, which is very helpful. But then at a point where, like, now you have, like, I had papers everywhere in my room. And here, I'm like, okay, all the ideas are just scattered. All my business is scattered. And I don't know. It's okay. So one problem was not putting that on paper.

now it's the other problem. Now it's all disorganized. And I literally had to have a friend, one of my best friends in the high school, help me organize everything. And like, hey, uh, try this app. Hey, you try this. Like, we're working on budgets.

Like just, all these things to get whatever is in your mind out and in an organized form help me. I found an app called, uh, might help you, but I found an app called, uh, Trello.

And all, I basically, took all the papers, all these little notes, and I put it up there. And what's cool about Trello, it, like, it lets you categorize subjects. So,

one subject is a podcast. Other subject is person. One subject is the band. And all the ideas I had, you could fucking me out. It's a really cool app. It's simple. And, uh,

again, like, when you do these things, it seems pointless. It seems useless. I'm like this, how is this going to help me and my ride this block? There's no way this is going to help me

in riders block. This is a point. This has nothing to do with what I want to do. So what am I doing? But I can't really explain it. Once you get your ideas out in an organized fashion,

it gives room for your, it gives room for some conscious to come out maybe that's what I'm trying to say yeah so that that helped me

getting organized doing the pointless errands doing the big errands anything you can do to get organized personally has helped me and to close this off yeah kind of breaking the cycle

has helped me like let's see what happened last Oh yeah, so Friday, it was, again, like this life was just, life just, I mean, get out of your own way, things happen. And it's fucking crazy. So, yeah, so Friday happened. I talked to Zach, pre-schedule the podcast.

But then, okay, now, at the same time, I had a friend hit me up that he works here also in the area. We had a coffee and had a conversation that, having conversations with people face to face time. Kind of allowing, does, helps your, what's this is even a word, formalize your thoughts and emotions and it's kind of breaking a cycle. Like, okay, I'm gonna go to a show.

I'm going out to a show. Or you're going out to hang out with your friends. Or you're going out to, sorry on a date everything is in relationship with each other you taking out the trash is related

to you playing guitar and if you don't see that maybe that's the issue anything you do just get the bullshit done okay to get the trash wash the issues bum okay anything like it's clear of mind

but this is weird out life you know just breaking a cycle just doing things little bit different will with will help and then close it off to close close close it off is uh I don't know

man like some kind of ritual will help for me knowing who you are for me it's a morning ritual you know I have to wake up really I have to if I wake up later I feel like a piece of fucking shit um

especially when you get older like I have to read I have to put a book in my face. If I don't, I feel like, I feel weird. Then there's a gym. Jim helps me personally helps me be creative. You get like these, you know, just have this conversation. Like, all this shit seems so pointless.

Like going to gym. Taking out the trash. Cleaning your car. Organizing your thoughts. It all seems pointless. But once, but then. these little moments I don't know where it has come up of clarity

So for me A morning ritual whatever yours is For me you can take it Hopefully it helps you For me it's waking up early as I can Hanging out my cat in the morning Coffee Reading to gym

Having a salad Or some kind of shitty smoothie Um helps me Um Yeah that's personally has helped me so yeah your timing of your question is uh uh works out because i i dealt the same thing and i noticed like when i got uh there was this a period of time that especially this past year where my creativity was like just not it wasn't a block it was more like maybe it was a block

hmm oh no maybe maybe it was but uh You're just letting room, let your room and time have its way. But yeah, yeah, Angel, I appreciate your question, man. Thank you for also submitting a video question. That's fucking sick, man. Jay, are we ready to, do we have another one locked in? Let's go.

Yo, what's up, Garza, about a walk into Lamb of God at IKEA Forum. A quick question for you. As a newer band starting out and cutting our teeth, what would be your best advice on getting out on tour and stuff and getting into bigger venues and stuff, having a lack of Instagram followers? Because it seems like in this day and age, Instagram followers and social media seems to matter more than the music itself, which is odd. But just what kind of advice you'd have on cutting our teeth in the scene and getting out there as much as we possibly can? and also what advice would you give yourself when you were just starting out in the band in terms of saving money you know practicing just all around general band necessities uh what advice would you give yourself yeah man thank you for your question uh i mean there's a lot there

where do i start uh it was kind of like two questions in one but uh that's sick again uh i got to go by experience um let's see I won't say anything stupid because I want to give advice I mean your band has to be sick I mean that has to be like a timeless factor I mean

I see like the but this has been going on for a while like the the over saturation of bands is definitely has been a thing in the past few years because back in you know like the early like

you know two thousands you know I'm lucky. We're in California. I had a venue down the street from my house. Like one of the, like a world famous venue was down the street from my house. Again, luck or fate or whatever you want, you want to call that.

But there was so many bands. There was so many bands. All kinds of styles. And also like this doing their own shit. It was still, it was the last era where, every band was doing their own thing their own way but still under this umbrella of heavy shit so uh i guess similar to to your time was um what did we do you got to cut through the bullshit i mean

that's what we did this is we just we just cut through like what what what what what was that? It's just, yeah, I really don't care how many bands there are out there. I don't care how many guitar players are out there. I don't fucking care. It's just if you are, if at the risk of sounding cliche, if you're you, it's just, you're going to sound different. And, um, you know, at the time, um, at the time we, we were very different and we were doing our thing and I don't know This is something I've talked about a few times I don't exactly know how to process it yet

But there was this Suicide silence is the sound in my body That's who I am Like there wasn't I didn't like hear in the band All this is what I got to do Which is very common I see a lot of bands sounding like Lone ashore right now This is

I guess But Yeah back then Then I didn't listen to a band. And that's what I'm going to do. It was inspired by them. But literally, it was like, it was a vision. I played exactly what I wanted to play.

And I didn't care what anyone thought. It's just funny. Like, it's always shocking. I look back at the time. I'm like, dang, who? How did you do that? It's just something about being a child and just that innocence. And we just kind of do what.

yeah i'm gonna do this and and that's it now you get older like you second guess fucking every every little thing you do but um time yeah we just did exactly what we wanted to do and like that's really all i could that's literally all i could that's literally the only way i could pinpoint why we're still here like uh i talk a lot about our foundation that first brick um that's why we're still here you know um trust me like without going on another rant i'm trust me like without going on another rant i'm not go out on rent right now um but uh the music industry does not want me here or the band it's tried so hard to fucking kill us and they can't and the only thing i could contribute that to is the very very first brick that was laid down to our foundation to where we got there's no band in this

seen has been through as much as us. Period. And if they did, they will snap in a fucking half. I have earned that. I just look back. I'm like, well, yeah, because we had, our foundation was solid. It wasn't, there was no trend.

There was no money in this. There was no nothing. Did what, did what we wanted to do. It's funny. Like we tell these stories. in a suicide sign of a podcast, we do the same thing. Like, yeah, there's no death core.

People cannot truly comprehend that. Even I can't. Like to do something and it doesn't even exist. And I do believe that is a timeless. It's timeless. Being you is timeless.

Regardless of my failures and my insecurities and setbacks in my career and stupid shit I've done, said, and what have you. It was always me. That's the only thing I could contribute is, so yeah, cutting through the bullshit. That's what we did. It's just played what we wanted to play.

And because, again, you talked about, you brought up, holy shit, Jay put up a crazy picture right now. Anyway, because you talk about. You brought up Instagram and numbers and yes, that is a thing, but you need to, you do need to kind of transcend that. You know, like just, and in the day that the music does come first, I truly believe, like, um, let's see if you want any lasting, um, effect. I mean, we're, we're a perfect example. You know, why are we still here? you know it's just the music our love for it and our obsession

and yeah I mean all I could again I'll close it off and approach your second part of your question is I can only contribute that to doing what we wanted to do because shit is going to get real it's going to get real

and then you know we had that foundation we were always us the music we played was always us and never wavered the vision Never compromised our integrity Or our sound Our character

Nothing we never did that It's funny because shit comes up And like I remember hearing like Oh you're combining blast speeds and breakdowns That's not going to work But this is weird I look back at that time

Like How did I How did I not let self-doubt even get in there. It's crazy. It's funny because to be inspired when I'm a fucking grown man, I go back to like being a child, just getting back with childlike qualities and those childlike curiosities. And I find myself going back to that. So second part of your question, what would you tell your younger self? So I do have a few thoughts and I'm debating how I'm going to react to this. Okay.

let's just go in fuck it one thing I did right was followed my instincts I did you were talking a child

I mean the band's been around since 2002 I was in high school I think it was a sophomore sophomore in high school maybe younger but

didn't let self doubt get in but things I did wrong what's scary about playing music and the music industry is when you make a mistake it manifests out

It manifests. It could be a year. Could be, in my case, it could be 15 years later. Like, your mistakes tend to, or your affairs will failures will kind of hit you at some point. So, and, you know, I'm still getting a faithful reality still. Mistakes I made when I was a child. Like, what would I tell my younger self? Because obviously, even like there was success back in high school, but there's also, you know, mistakes.

Um, you know, insecurities will definitely, yeah, I could have really saved time. I could have saved time and some energy and a lot. You did talk about money, correct? Okay. Money. It goes back to what I just say. Your mistakes will manifest a year later, five years, 10, 20 years later. I'm still experiencing, like, money loss with the mistake I might have made.

but uh yeah the same thing that brought us success also brought us massive failures which is uh insecurity you know you want you want attention you know

so insecurities kind of help form the sound so people can relate to it but also your insecurities will stop you for doing other things um you know back

you know so I have fake teeth um thank God for my dentist and Corona shout They've, um, yeah, back then I had a, I had a really, had a very crippling stutter. So that's like the foundation of suicide silence. Really like I couldn't, I couldn't talk.

So, uh, I found guitar, thanks to corn, um, all that. And then everything had held back my whole life. You're talking years of just being mute. I'm sure friends and family could attest to that So I could say that Everything I hold back It just flew out

And then put Mitch's lyrics on top of that It was I mean it was You can't really touch that Um It was insecurity He's like Not dealing with crap sooner And

Which So I had like this stutter And every time Yeah people thought I was retarded because is that is I like I can retarded because I couldn't talk

every time I had talked it was like I'll mumble I'll stutter my ass off and um for some reason I just I don't know what the I don't know what the hell

I was doing I was I really fucked up girl and I was super insecure about it so I wouldn't even laugh and it's funny like I still still have muscle in my face that like prevent me from smiling. It's weird because because when you do things,

when you do things when you're a child throughout childhood, junior high, high school, they're still kind of there when you get older. And that's what fucking sucks about that shit. But yeah, like having, when you're insecure about your, your teeth, oh, I'll hold back smiles. And it just, um,

that went on into my, uh, career. So again, so that goes into, what advice like myself. It's funny. It makes those fucking stupid. It sounds dumb, but it's only related to myself. But, I was just, dude, you need to fucking, do you go to

Dennis, fix your shit. You know, I didn't oh wow, this is going to tie into the end of the podcast. But, uh, yeah, I wish I found a gym later, or sooner. Because if you have a stutter, they're unfortunately,

um, For those of you who do struggle with having to stutter like I did, you kind of, you do need to do things more than the average person. It sucks sometimes, but also at the same time, it could give you an edge over people. So yeah, it sucks doing more than someone, but that would also be the same thing that gives you focus. I know, unfortunately, there is a lot of things you have to do, you know. It's funny because I go back to that stuttering kid pretty quickly still like born stuff diet is huge diet Meditation gym Things that calm your mind could because if you're stuttering your mind is working faster than the words coming out of your mouth and

Which from which comes from insecurity being nervous or even excited so I still sorry based on being excited, which is funny that you could... I fixed the problem and then I overshot and now I stutter because I'm really excited about stuff. But unfortunately, there's just... I got to calm your mind and I wish I had that... that calm mind back then to make the better decisions. Anyway, I hope that helps.

If I don't know what that helps or not. But yeah, just fucking go hard. dude go hard as my first guitar teacher told me don't be a bitch I wish I I wish I had in my life yeah there he is Meigs he's my first guitar teacher

anyway I hope that helps I had to tackle the maybe the last one maybe the last video question let's do three yeah Garza what's up I got a question for you

what is your top for or your Mount Rush more for rhythm guitar players. Oh my goodness. Doesn't matter what genre, just your personal top for. Oh my goodness. I'm like literally if you're just listening, I'm really

writing names in my notebook right now. Just kind of get some chain linking. Okay, I have with guitar playing, I don't even necessarily have to listen to the band but they still for some

reason are just obvious goats and just make me a better player. So my favorite guitar player is Monkey from Corn. That's just it. Like he's, but that's personal preference. The dude started him and has started, I mean, literally started a genre. So he's why I'm literally here.

So he's number one for me. There's two guys that I don't exactly. listen to in my spare time but just have been have made me a better guitar player that made me more me because you can practice all day and not be you I mean there's

there is that but uh I practice these guys songs and they make me a better guitar player so I have to put them on my top four and that's Johnny Ramone for the Ramones

uh he is truly like the the goat as far downpicking. I highly recommend his book Commando. Their band, literally, I, you know, I went back to it this morning and actually, yeah, their band started without anyone knowing anything. Literally, like, no one knew their instruments, and that's how they started. And then whoever played that instrument better, that's who did what, which is, if you think about that, it's pretty insane. I think you two actually has a very similar similar story

but John Ramon I play those songs and I become I have become more me I insist a lot of downpicking it's a lot of just himself in those songs and I definitely he has to be in the top four

he has to be I don't exactly have to listen to Ramones a lot in my spare time but I heard James Headfield talk about him. So out of curiosity, I just went to the, I just went to the Ramones, and then I finally had a book, and I started doing research on him, and a very, very special guy. So he's up there.

So where we're at? We're at Monkey. John and Ramon, another dude, which he might be the goat, goat. He might be the goat goat. Malcolm Young. I don't listen to ACDC in my spare time, but you know, reading his story. He has an auto biography by himself and

a really interesting guy. The vision and his plane and his attitude and he was born in Glasgow and I didn't know that until I fucking did extensive research on the guy and because you think of ACD, so you just associate that band with Australia.

And after reading his story, and obviously there's a, I'm not saying, Suidas on the same league as ACD's, I'm not saying that, but obviously, if you know anything about my band, you could put two and two together why we are, um, we have a similar story.

So when you have a story like that, there's only few bands you could really go to for inspiration. And so, you know, they lost their singers. So it's kind of one of those, you know, like, what did he do? And what's crazy about guys like Malcolm, there's not much, it's not much out about him. Like interviews and stuff, like, damn, he doesn't really say much. And it's like shit. Like it's funny. Like, and that's always kind of not pissed me off.

It used to actually make me really frustrated because, which in the end is, it's all my fault. In the end, I do take responsibility for this. But man, like, we worked so hard and we made it. And we were on tour with these bands and like the people I want to hang out with don't hang out. That's why I don't want to hang out. the people I want to hang out with in bands. Like, holy shit, we're on tour room. We did it.

And these guys, they just don't hang out. No. I'm not saying I'm like, I'm not saying I'm like them. Or I should be in the same sentence with them. But I do see similarities between myself and some of these guys. Like, I see like an introvert and like the rhythm player aspect. And so you hear like they're also like the business person. I'm like, oh, wow, this is like a lot of similarities.

But these people I should hang out with, they just don't hang out, which has always been like a really frustrating part about my career. Anyway, yeah, Malcolm Young, he is a goat. I believe he passed away from dementia, which is really unfortunate. I'm also very young too. Very, very young. 2017 He passed away

November 2017 Yeah he's He's a goat Again I don't Listen to ACDC in my spare time Very rarely But when I play those songs

And I learned And I learned those songs That's what's so weird about music I don't know what it is Playing those songs Makes me more me And that's like super That's way more crucial

Than any guitar skill I don't care about any guitar school. But there's something in those songs that just does that. And on my list here, his name popped in my head. So so far we have Monkey, John Ramon, Malcolm Young. I have a feeling you all think you know what I'm going to say. I think you all think I know. I think you all think you know, but I'm not going to say them.

It's too obvious. For me personally, and I don't think a lot of people talk about him enough. And oddly enough, I just read this today in my notes. But, uh, and it's so, Johnny Ramon has a top five list. Number five for him and number four for me. So how important he is, is, uh, Dick Dale. Dick Dale is so He

Man he is so important man He is so important for For metal man It sucks I never got to see him Sucks Man I didn't get my head out of my ass I still as a fucking older guy He fucking sucks

All these times the ACDC was in town And Dick Dale was in town I just never went on in the song Because I didn't do Research until my mid-30s like a fucking idiot But yeah dude His uh

His tremolo picking is It's him It's him and I play You know I play those songs And I put it into suicide songs It makes it makes me me It's nuts

And not only what he did for Guitar But what he did for amps and pedals Dude like he Like he Like the stories of him And Leo Fender Hanging out in like the 60s

are legendary. It might even hit the 50s. It's been, I was going through my Leo Fender research and I was like, we were doing, remember you must die. And I was in my, like,

Leo Fender, I was just reading all these books about him. So, uh, that was, wow, holy shit. Well over two years ago at this point.

So it's not really off the top of my head, but the stories of Leo Fender and, Dick Dale hanging out are just like are just legendary dude there will be no amps like what we know is like a half stack and these Marshall have standing all this would not exist

without Leo offender and Digdale and if you want to question me you should really do some some research of what you know Dick Dale did for the amps because he had some amps a little am I mean you can imagine like the 50s and

basically Dick Dale was telling Leo hey deal I'm blowing out these amps. I'm blowing him out. So it took Leo Fender going from Fullerton and he would go to Santa Monica at these dance halls to see Dick Dale play. You'll probably find a video of Dick Dale playing

these uh these dance halls in the 50s. And as he said, uh, Leo said he was standing in the back in the middle. He said, oh, I get it. And then, uh, I believe Leo again, these are legendary stories. Like the, like the, like how

we live in a big world in a very small circle but um yeah like I said there's stories of Leo talking with as we all know JBL I don't have his name at the top of my head or in front of me but um and that's why he put more than one speaker

in a cabinet and that's also why he made Defender showman that's why he called it like the showman because he saw Dick Dale realized he was a showman so uh So Jay's pulling up some stuff right now. You could probably check it out.

Oh, yeah, a name I can't pronounce. James Bullog, Lansing. I might have pushed it up at JBL. Like those stores are legendary, man. Yeah, so Leo named the Fender Showman after Diggdale, seen what he was doing, blowing amps out. I think Digdale was also. responsible for the re-grib pedal

which now we know now we have all these pedals now we have all these pedal the pedal game is just crazy it I don't think we have guitar pedals it wasn't for Leo Fender and Dick Dale yeah those are my

that's my mouth rushmore of top four and obviously obviously there's a lot more but just off the top of my head of what really yeah rest in peace Leo Fender man

special dude special guy man literally the greatest guitar company of all time literally I have one I have one right by me and he didn't even play he didn't even play guitar

which is so weird he just knew he just knew man so yeah that's my top four pretty much thank you for thank you for your question man

there's so many more I know but that's my personal favorite And as far as spirit time, I listen to Dickdale the most. Out of like, the Ramones, the Ramones, um, no, I never mind. I listen to corn a lot. Obviously, but, uh, yeah, out of, uh, yeah, John Ramon, um, Malcolm Young, Dickdale, I'll probably listen to second the most.

That tremble picking, there's something about his tremble picking, though. If you learn those songs, it makes you play a certain way. I can't explain it. I can't explain it. Anyway, yeah, if you're only listening, this is this,

we're gonna close off with this. The way, like, when Dickdale play, they'll do, the people will do like this bounce. Remember the first time I went on YouTube and typed in Dickdale Live. The way people danced to him was this crazy.

It's kind of like, they're kind of like hopping around. Kind of like a wave. Kind of like a The ocean. It's weird. Anyway, I think we have time for one One more.

We could, uh, should probably do like, she should probably do a written one. What was that? Oh, oh my goodness. Farmer John Photography.

Um, have you met a fan that made you genuinely uncomfortable? Yes. Um, This was actually recently. But, um, I got a fucking piss, dude.

I mean, it's going to sound like I'm grateful. But again, like I'm still learning. But, uh, your patience varies from day to day. And as I get older, the, my patience does grow. Because you have to be patient. Especially when you're married to four idiots. I'm one of the idiots You know

You got to That the level of patience it takes To keep a band going And then you There's other things That That Uh

Will take away from your Your patience battery This particular day I was not I was not myself I was not That top level patient Because people

Because you get asked because because when you there is something about going out in public you are asking for something

you know I'm in public okay you know if I'm here you talk to me I'll talk to you but this particular

day was different I was having a pretty rough time but I still want to go to show all enough I was watching a virtual at House of Blues

this was this was the last time they were here I was watching them and I wanted to see them and connect with uh with kyle and uh i wanted to be there but also i didn't want to be there i was like not in exactly the right headspace and you get you get approach sometimes and your patience allows you to uh handle said question you were asked and it's i'm just gonna say it

like the the worst thing that one of the worst things people ask you is hey are you in a band And I get it. Again, I might sound like being ungrateful, but, it is, it is, like, what am I going to say? Yeah? You know, then I sound like egotistical. So I always say no. If they ask that, I just say no.

And I'll go on with my day. So that makes me genuinely uncomfortable. But, you know, as you get older and your patience, you learn how to navigate these. these things and um that's the last time i felt uncomfortable and uh just depends on the day i could handle it or uh they'll approach me later and this particular person you know i feel bad but i said no and then i proceeded to go get my first drink at the bar and i could hear him talking behind me so he's basically talking to the back of my head which again my patience has nothing to do with him

But I kind of like to talk to people as like a person. And they talk to me as a person, which is fucking sick. You know, that's why I like meeting people. But I wouldn't go to someone's back of the head and start talking. But if I was patient, I would know how to handle it and turn around and, you know, be cool. But I was not cool this particular day. There was a lot going on in my personal life. And I kind of let that show this particular evening in the old Anaheim, California.

But yeah, I was just uncomfortable. Because I guess, so I said no, I walked away. And I kind of overheard him, asked someone else who I was. And they told him, and I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, God, here we go. I don't have the patience right now. I don't. I don't.

Maybe I shouldn't want to the show. I don't know. Yeah, I was just, I turned around, look at him. I think I gave him through a look. Oh, gosh. Bad, bad. This makes you feel uncomfortable. Like, what do you?

you say that, you know, it's, I just, it just makes me feel like a fucking asshole if I said, yeah, you know, but I get it, we're all, you know, we're all just, you know, I can't, I don't have to remember to talk, like I've done, it was something when you meet, when you meet

someone, you haven't met before, you admire, it, just, yeah, she's just, something happens, you just, you know, I, I lost count how many times the corn guys came me, you know, the time of day. being a fucking idiot you're just like

like oh my god oh you just you don't know what to say it took me a career to learn how to navigate these these uh these moments so i can't really you know I can't talk but um yeah I get

I do I guess to close off that story is I get uncomfortable when people ask that but the other 95% in time or more I'm patient I can navigate it I can navigate that emotion to where it's not uncomfortable.

And we could, I'll turn it around, basically start a conversation with them. So yeah, that was the, that was the last time. That was the last time. Shit, I think we're, we should hit up current event, Jay. How is that? Let's do, let's do this one. What is this? So Instagram is adding music to your profile?

Is that, is that what's going on? A lot of the times, dude, things come back full circle. So apparently Instagram is going to let you add a song to your profile. I'm kind of curious how it's going to. So what? You're going to be able to go how to add a song to Instagram profile. It's easy. Okay, let's read this out loud.

How to add song to Instagram profile. It's easy to add music. to your Instagram page simply go to your profile in the app press the edit profile button under your username and bio then press music you can then search for a song and add up to 30 seconds of it to your page whoa this is my space dude fucking crazy press done and that's it the song doesn't the song doesn't play automatically but there is a teeny icon next to it on your profile that your followers can click if they want to hear it. Interesting. Yeah, this is MySpace. This is legit MySpace. That's all, man, that's why I learned, like, coding and HTML, like making your websites.

You could, like, before it got easier, you could, like, add songs to it. It was, but, yeah, things are full circle. I had Quarons Got to Life. That was my song on MySpace. If you hit my shitty profile, if you hit my shitty profile, you saw, you heard, Corn's got to lie.

If you, if you liked it or not, if you liked you or not, yes, things, things do come full circle. Things come full circle, man. But it's weird because, so, I'm trying to do, like, what?

So you have to click, you have to click their profile you have to click their profile but then you have to click again the song plays but why it worked on MySpace it worked on MySpace because when you click on someone's profile

excuse me the song will automatically play but nothing else is playing like you would the song be playing you could basically see their top eight

and then read comments but with Instagram it's you're going on someone's profile to click their pictures or videos so I mean yeah I wonder how that

that would work I wonder you know I guess the only way for me or us to find out is we actually try it I can be totally wrong but the concept seems too complicated but I can be totally wrong about this hmm interesting

they're ripping off my space let's go dude let's go So is this out, Jay? Is this like already? Oh, a little player. Okay, so it's already out. Got it.

But that's just one more thing. You got to click on there. It made it look... Seems like there's throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks. The thing about people, we are lazy. We are lazy. People can't even use turd signals. What I do is raise your fucking finger.

If it's one more click someone has to do on your profile, that's... I could be wrong, but I do not see that happening. I do not see it happening. Like, that's like, huh? Strange. Well, here I am talking about it, and then the next time you go on my Instagram, I'm going to be playing corn, and then, you know, fuck me, right? Anyway, thank you for your questions.

And I'm going to wrap this up here. I'm exactly sure if I enjoyed doing this in the morning or nighttime yet. Again, I'm running this as I go. This is only the second time I'm doing this. I really appreciate you being patient with this. But I want to take a moment to, I want to dedicate this episode to a close friend of ours. Close friend, I mean, known him since high school. We used to go to shows together.

Um, I think one of the first times, suicide songs played out of state, like in Vegas, he was with us in the van. Um, our friend, uh, Zach Snyder, uh, passed away. Um, a couple weeks ago. And, uh, you have, like, these, you have friends who are like, like, that, that close, close circle when you were in, uh, in, uh, in, high school. And he was one of them. you know yeah this I just wanted to dedicate this episode to to you Zach you were you were a great friend man um

he was our first he was our first guitar tech he went on 24thus from Nile he was he had no idea what the hell he was doing but we didn't know we were doing either so um yeah he was really

man he was really passionate about getting people in the gym And that's all that's why I went to the gym. That's why I went. He just invited me and, um, it started. It really got the, it really started the wheels, man. Without him, I don't know if I ever would have found it.

And, um, yeah, he, uh, he moved to Mississippi and, yeah, he moved and then I heard, uh, he overdosed in his truck alone. so um sad man he was uh he was a great guy yeah he just don't know man what someone's what someone's going through man he just don't know you know he was uh

he was our age man he was fucking buffed dude and uh anyway i got uh you know i got the news this is funny when you know i've been known to

like not exactly text people back and call you know especially now and get older sometimes you just know when to pick up and I got the news and I heard he oh yeah thank you Jay

nailed it that's us in a in an overpass I think our fucking Big Josh in the picture Mitch guitar player Rick that was on the EP yeah fucking our tire

something happened I think our tire blew up her fucking van and we were just stuck in a overpass and those fun times man um oh no something I'm currently going through it and I'm literally going to

make this very public I am I have trouble processing people dying and death people that were close and a good example is actually

Zach it's weird how like when we get news it will like it will hit us some then it'll hit us later as far as like just the moment you'll get either a phone call or a text or however you find out um this particular time um I didn't feel anything I wasn't sad I was nothing And I wasn't sure. I, you know, it's been well over 10 years.

I really built up walls for obvious reason. I'm sure you could put dates together. But ever since that time, I really put up walls. And I'm currently going through it. how to uh it's weird because once you put up walls like and it's like your

it's like your emotions are in this purgatory it's like you're just this limbo and like you like you can't access it you can access them but you also can't you also don't

so I'm currently going through it and um I learned I learned uh the past few months and this ties in to Also, I was saying earlier, this is going to tie in the whole podcast as I learned through the past few months of clearing my mind and getting back to the core. A lot of things, unprocessed things, has popped up.

I didn't want to talk about this earlier, but yeah, I really figured out that I'm not going to get too far into it. I'm kind of saving this particular story. so I'm trying to talk about the surface of it but yeah I don't I definitely haven't processed death properly and this is a perfect example I didn't feel anything I wasn't sad or nothing and then

you know as time went on you know it'll bouts of sadness come up and it's really taught me to you know I think it's time to kind of break down those walls and I this is all happening in real time. I'm a 3-year-old, 3rd or 8-year-old man,

and I'm processing these things in real time. So it's kind of like these podcasts or me therapy sessions. So you'll probably hear me go in and out of these things, trying to figure this thing out. But anyway, yeah, this episode goes out to you, Zach. You were a great guy. a great friend. He was like,

he was way bigger than me and he could fucking kill me. But I always just talk shit to him, just poke at him. He just let me do it. Good guy. I mean, he was a, to me,

he was always a pure-hearted guy. And, um, shit. Yeah, we're gonna have a hangout this weekend. We'll see how that goes.

But yeah, um, but yeah, thank you for listening, watching this week. Um, we had committed to these solo episodes again i'm going to learn we're learning as we go it's on

on the second one but uh i've committed to it and uh anyway yeah i'll see you uh on monday kyle from ritual is the next one it's already it's already done i'm really curious what you all think and feel about it but um but yeah man uh zach rest and peace man yeah i'll see you on the other side brother