Garza Podcast - 143 - SOLO EP: People Stealing Metal Culture, Dream Tour & Death

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Suicide Silence played New England Metal & Hardcore Festival this weekend so it took longer than expected getting this ep out. We ain't missing a week tho! Garza talks dream tour, people stealing metal culture, guitar gear & much more! SPONSORS: https://distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! NEW MERCH: https://garzapodcast.myshopify.com CHAPTERS: 00:00 - RIP Juan Brujo of Brujeria 05:39 - 1 Year Left 09:03 - Quad Cortex Continued 17:12 - More Raccoons 18:31 - Honda Center, STP & Manson 24:13 - A Lot Going On 32:42 - Favorite Album Cover & Ernie Beef 36:20 - No One is Original Anymore 40:19 - Is Garza Nice to Ernie? 44:34 - Everyone is Racist 46:09 - Red Hot Chili Peppers & Sevendust 01:05:53 - Best Thing to Do in Movie Theaters 01:07:57 - Trump 2nd Shooter 01:10:14 - Metal & Pop Culture Borrowing

Yo, what's up, everyone? Real quick, just got some news, but I want to send this episode out to Juan Bruo. Behir, just learned that he passed away. I just saw a comment pop up on his episode. I was like, I was sitting right here on my phone, his channel, and I was like, no. A little bit more research and unfortunately it is true. So it's sad, man. He was a great guy.

That's 1963 to 2024. What is that, Jay? 61 years? 61 years old? It's sad, man. Man, it feels like he was just here. 61 years old, man. That seems very recent.

Yeah, he really jumped started our year. Well, he came in here January 1st And we got We got some pictures of my hair If you're If you're just listening Here's all of us Jay

Chris the camera guy Just chilling with him Thank you for the shirt man Hey man He has some great stories Came here He just spoke from his heart No

Which I've learned throughout the years of doing this It's Unfortunately it's rare For someone just kind of speak with no filter and firm from the heart so he was he was a good guy

and man I saw him at the glass house they were fucking sick that was badass and it was uh it was in December so yeah like less than a month prior

met him in person I was kind of creeping around the bar just like waiting until he came out slightly stalking him now that I look back at it and he was a nice guy gave me his time and was listening to

name very present it was actually yeah it was this show was fucking sick dude pinchy a peach too man you see it sucks because we were we talked about this quite a few times like you just don't know like the last time you're gonna see that lineup

and uh we're literally experiencing it right now in real time yeah with a pinchier and a in a him it's man sucks dude great guy great band I'm gonna just say this.

Yep. I think you would be proud of the conversation that we had. I was thinking when we were doing this, it's like, what would happen? It's kind of freaky when you have a thought in your head, and it actually becomes a reality, and it happened today. Was, you know, like, well, what's going to happen when, like, some of these artists living, legends and bands what's going to happen when some of these people start passing away you know we want to put out something uh we want to put out the conversation that people are going to go to

and i already see it happening today it's this weird that was a thought and a goal and it's unfortunately one is the first example of that just having conversations out there that hopefully they would be proud of but um rest in peace man thank you for hanging out beat a being a cool guy and the great tunes me and jay were driving down the street getting cigarettes uh jamming the tunes man it's like they're it's like they're still alive yeah we put out and play those songs you put out yeah we can play the songs from anyone it just sounds like they're still alive which is kind of bizarre but yeah let's see uh today's thursday no today's wednesday tomorrow I'm warning.

Looking forward to cranking those tunes in the gym. Getting pumped. Getting you pumped. Dude, still... He's still alive, man. In a crazy way. This EP is dedicated to you, man. It seems like we've been talking about death a lot.

Is that just me? I don't know. It's just true. You just turn 30. And these things, just people would start passing away. Just, I mean, that rumor, unfortunately, it's been, it's been, uh, coming true.

But, uh, I guess we should just move on to something, um, more positive. But, uh, yeah, anyway, thank you for listening, watching. This is the fourth one, right? The fourth solo, the EP. Um, what, what's the date today, Jay? 18th. So, uh, we, it's officially,

We've been in this building for exactly one year. One year and we just signed the lease for one more year. So we're going to be here one more year. So this photo is Jared from Head PE. And this was, I had the dates because they just don't seem real to me. It's September 10th. And then literally the next day from us setting up, the next day we had a.

podcast with Goathor here in September 18th. And then literally September 19th, the very next day, we're here with Alpidunia. Shout out. Some deathcore from Africa. So literally it was like a day, literally the day after. And then a couple days later, it was O-Tep, which is here. She's fucking sick, dude.

So yeah, it was a crazy, uh, This is a crazy fucking timeline. He just does, we were fucking nuts, dude. We were moving stuff and then scheduling podcasts at, at the same time. And I mean, that's why I went kind of nutty at some, at some time.

But, yeah, it sucks. I remember, like, I even, like, overbooked myself. I think we're going to have ginger in here. Like, who else was I was talking to? currents. I don't know if I can say that. But, yeah, just trying to make things work and not everything work, but the fact it just went

into the next day. And at the time, we didn't miss the week, so that was, that's what we were doing. Pretty cool. So, yeah. We're here for one more year. I'm on this, it's a really,

we got really lucky with this spot. And the only cons are There's really no parking around here for bands and it's loud. It's a little bit loud. You might hear like a fire truck sometimes, but just be patient for one more year. But everything else is sick. I mean, the vibe in here is cool.

We feel, you know, comfortable. And already have, I already know what we're doing once the year is up. I don't know if I could say it, but there's definitely a. There's already a plan after that and a five-year plan, a 10-year, and then I'll probably die after that. But, yeah, thank you for listening and watching the podcast for, you know, this could have easily not worked out. This could have very easily not have worked out,

but it's rare when, you know, it's, you know, podcasts are so, I don't know, disposable but um and oversaturated so i'm lucky that i were still here doing it and all you supporting sponsors and you're able to like to pay the rent here but uh yeah anyway uh going on i'm already ranting the most stuff but uh yeah a lot okay so a lot has happened a lot has has definitely happened once you some six shows i realized i need a hell of helicopter at some point that'll be pretty fucking that'll be pretty helpful um let's see what what do we do with just yesterday uh we started rehearsing for new england middle and heartcraft festival um so we'll we'll have a flight to boston saturday morning at exactly uh so we get picked up

at 520 a m which is i'm pretty stoked on that i know my other the other guys in the band might not be as excited as I am but uh yes we're jamming yesterday it was the first time we got the rough set list down it was the first time that uh that we just started playing songs with uh the gear that we have so me and mark have been working on our tones with the quad cortex and uh we earnings on an e kit so we're able to do that just play the songs at a lower volume. Songs that we've been playing for some well over a decade.

And the tones were, I was very surprised. I was surprised how it sounded. And I mean that in, a good way. It's cool because when you jam at a low volume, a lot of, there's a lot of things

happening at once. There was a one, it didn't destroy your fucking ears which was nice and you could hear everything. So when we were playing, it did make you play better. It made us play better. It made me play better be a little bit more

a little bit more solid. And I was also surprised that the breakdown sounded heavier which I was very surprised. I couldn't have guessed that like this made you like really made you dig into the strings more and connect with the people around it because you're actually able to hear what was going on there wasn't this loudness kind of overbearing everything and taking over the room so that was pretty uh pretty sick but then the opposite was i really learned like wrists that you need i need to practice

Okay, if I didn't know a rip that well, it was fucking obvious. So, oh, wow, I need to like, you know, there's like a rip and like wake up or something. And I'm like, oh, I need to, yeah, I need to practice that. But man, we were really able to connect more and really focus on playing the songs right and getting the tempest right and sounded really, it sounded heavy. It sounded really heavy, way heavier than I thought it was going to sound. tone-wise and overall as a band. And I'm pretty stoked where I'm at. I mean, it's so user-friendly.

If I could use it, anyone could use it. And it's cool to plug in, you know, my offender here and then start ripping pretty soon. And get a pretty good tone. I mean, if we played today out there, if we played today, um, I would be stoked. I definitely got less nervous.

It's going to be our first show in our whole career that we're not going to have amps. Um, but I should be a little bit more nervous. I should, but, uh, it's pretty solid.

This is one thing. Um, so I think, uh, see, tomorrow I'll die, a little bit more into it so adding some like, you know,

you know, some, all that cool stuff, like the choruses and the delays. Um, but overall, I am very stoked and, uh,

probably one of the best purchases I made in quite some time as far as gear and, uh, and the band. So, so, so that's pretty sick. Um,

So, yeah, if you're in the Bosnia area, I mean, as you're hearing this and watching this, I mean, the show would already happen. So I'm talking in future tense and past tense at the same time. So bear with me here. So yeah, I hope, so now I'm talking, yeah, I'm doing that at the same time, past and future tense. So if you saw the show, cool, you're going to see basically. It's a show like this, it's only going to happen once ever in our career. We're going to see it's going to happen in real time. It's funny like when you do things and a known out there knows.

And you're just going to make it seem like everything's cool. Everything's going to be fine. Everything's going to be fine. It's fucking plug in and play. Hopefully it's seems good. We got the fly racks. Everything's solid. I was going to make a few patches.

with all the cool stuff on there. Boring stuff. Like with our style of music, you got to build a relationship with the noise and your noise gate. Kind of boring stuff, but the way, it's just different that you gotta get used to. But yeah, pretty, pretty sick.

Pretty, pretty sick. We found out this week that our time slot and I'm very stoked. I'm very, what was our time slot? Six 10? man it goes uh fuck ingested

flesh god apocalypse uh brand of sacrifice shadow of intent uh us as laid down slaughtered riverville i'm very stoked on that time slot not bad for an old washed up death core ban right

and that supposedly everyone hates I'm pretty fucking stoked yeah it's moments like this that I did I have to soak in I just have to I really don't care what anyone thinks about me at this point or sometimes I sound arrogant, but we worked our ass off

to really push forward to get that slot. I'm sure a lot of people will say that we should be playing before a lot of those bands, but behind the scenes, stuff that really can't, you know, people

don't really know, but we're working very hard. I've been working very hard. I'm here I'm here the next door over fucking sleeping on the wood floor it's trying to make shit happen you know

it's this cool when you just see stuff like this and gives you this a little bit of juice and the you know I guess yeah I pray

and pray for you know to pray for focus thank God for my drive my obsession because those

easily not be there my energy I'm just lucky that I still have that. And, you know, without getting too into that subject, definitely, yeah, I know it's, I know it's not all me. You know, I'm, I'm aware of that. But, yeah, what else I do? It's not a podcast, it's not complete without talking about the raccoons. they've been pretty like

they're around I mean I sleep with the window open and I've been hearing them so they've been coming out in awkward times like so this is the first time I saw two of them and

I look outside because I don't know if they're fighting or fucking oh these back kids fighting or fucking I don't know but I hear a bunch of noises and I look outside and they're just swimming in the pool

they're just having a time in their lives We rent free But then again I'm in their home We uh We definitely forget that we're in their home We're uh we're in all the animals and bugs And what have you

It's we're in their ecosystem And then we like to pretend that we own the land Which is uh it's funny But yeah it's cool It's cool They're uh they're just They're just out there fucking Being raccoons and swimming

and so yeah that's a pretty sick I saw quite a few cool shows the the first one was I went to that the venue is down the street from from here at the Haunted Center I saw Slaughter to Beville Manson and then I went home yeah my my second show ever was corn and stained which to stay is still my top five, probably my top two, favorite shows of all time. And it's my second dream venue. The other one is in Samar, you know,

called Glen Helen Amphitheater. We played there a bunch of times, but it was always on the second stage, and my dream is to play the main stage there, which will happen. It's just a matter of when. And then my other dream venue is there at the Hana Center.

It's really cool to see heavy bands go there And kind of paving their Paving their road that I could actually travel on Which is really cool But shout out to Jack from Slaughter He let me go there early So it's really cool fucking It's going

He's walking around back there He's chilling and I know You let me walk on a stage It was nice to fucking look out I'm like damn He was this cool man I like look out

Like man Man like What? year was that with 99 so 2009 so 09 19 19 19 21 so that's 25 years so I was like I was like that's 25 years ago I was sitting right there wow it's I mean time flies you know time flies so it's cool you know I really appreciate um Jack let me had that experience and uh they were great they were fucking they were fucking it was was sick. A lot better than LA. LA was alright. Kind of subpar, but

they really made up for it. It sounded great, looked great. Truly pride of him. I think the most important part of the night was made me, I don't know, was this inspired and made me

kind of gave me a taste. You know, a taste of what's, Taste of future. Taste of what's possible. And got my creative juices flowing. You know? I love the guys. I love them.

But my creative competition part of me that's deep in there is full throttle right now. Like it is right when I thought like, oh shit, I'm back. I'm back as that teenager kid fucking playing guitar I'm competitive I'm talking shit everybody now but not like negatively I mean

because bands do that but it's more like two-faced I noticed but if I do it I'll say it to your face and I don't care and it's also it's pure-hearted it says creative competition

which is a term I got from a fellow podcaster and I was like man it is lit of right when I thought It happens in levels. I notice right when I think I'm there,

I feel good. It gets higher. And it gets higher. I get more driven. I get more obsessive. It's cool. This is really cool to experience. I'm out to get that killer part of me back.

And I am out to kill a slaughter of the bill right now. Like, fuck that band. And I mean that from the fucking deep as part of my soul. It's that inner child. that kid that play guitar in high school that that those that uh that soul was coming back and to be honest like i i honestly i don't know couldn't do it without without these guys it's pretty sick but yeah i'm out to cool you guys like i'm pretty fucking there it's kind of alarming um that what a fun show that was though

you know i've seen a band like that though have some beers i was in the pier areas why i'm I was fucking sick, dude. It seemed like a band with masks on. Like, fuck, yeah, she was dope. And, yeah, some time passed. And then, um, and then, uh, let's see, Manson came on, and it was fucking incredible. His voice is on, on point.

It is on point. So if you're a Manson fan, I think now is the time to, um, to go out and see him. Uh, his band is awesome. Reba, Rebo is playing. Guitar is a perfect fit. Perfect fucking fit. And then, um, then, uh, yeah, I'm older.

So I was like, you know what? I'm going home. I'm going home. And then, uh, it's, I got one more drink. I ran into someone on the way out and I had one more drink and said, you know, saying highs and buys and walked out when a fire finger was playing. But yeah, that was awesome. And, uh, also, I feel bad, but, um, Saturday, there was a lot.

lot going on. You ever have that where you have nothing going on? And then all of a sudden Friday comes around or Saturday and now there's this person this person's birthday, this person's in town and this person doing this

and I'm like, man like I wish she was spread out but yeah Saturday I uh we had a podcast with Cana Hill which is out now for all you to enjoy watch or listen or skip it

So yeah Saturday morning I woke up at 4 Because I had a lot going on 4 For that And there was already So just so you know what was going on

It was that Dan Kinney was hosting One of his famous UFC parties Or hangouts Because it was UFC at the sphere Which I really wanted to see With him and Ernie and

D.K.'s brother came in town, which I really want to hang on with him. I was like, okay. And then Slepman was also playing in L.A., which I had tickets for. And Cain Hill was playing down the street from here with

of sulfur and a sign of the swarm. So there was like, there's all these things to do. And they're all very, very far away from each other and somehow like I was I was sitting right here and sitting like okay how how can I do all this I'm just I'm just gonna kind of let like what's gonna happen we just let like on like the universe have its way and it did not work out that way at all um at all yeah finished finish finish that I realized I had to take the... This is boring. This is boring stuff.

I'm sorry. I had to take... I had to take the podcast footage and send it to... Zach who was going to edit it. And that's a long drive. That was almost two hour drive. It was during traffic. I was like, oh, shit.

I just lost two hours. And I was like, okay. I can't make the UFC fight for sure. Okay, I'm going to rush over to L.A. to I was already planning not to see Slipknot, but shout out to Venn did for a coal for hooking up those tickets. I felt bad. Like I dropped off the SD cards and then I looked at put it in Google Maps and was like, oh, unless like it's like over an hour drive and like they were playing and like. 30 minutes. It's like oh dude I can't.

So I'm not I'm not gonna make that So I really wanted to see Vendid in an arena setting I've seen him quite a few times and I'm very proud of where that band's going So I was planning as to see Vennett and bounce Over to back here and see the show

The Sign of the Swarm show Kane Hill And uh Also L.A. I mean This is just The fucking smoothen. I don't want to do that either, but yeah, saw

reality was staring me back in my face and like, okay, I'll just drive straight to the show. It worked out. It was nice to see Upsulfer and Cain Hill and the show and it's around my people and people are known for such a long time. So, maybe that's what was, what was

supposed to happen. You know, I was watching some heavy, shit drinking a IPA hanging with old friends very old friends dear friends

um and then I drove home and by then it was midnight there's like this street I think it's called a Euclid once you leave there's like this

to get to their freeway this is a brutal street it's like when um it's it's basically every fast food joint. And they're all open.

So you're passing, you're trying to get home, you're trying to get a six-pack, and boom, Taco Bell. What are you going to do? Are you going to stop or what? I passed Taco Bell.

Okay, I won, I won the first battle, and then boom, you have, McDonald's. I won that battle but it's always the last one. It's always the last one that gets me. Right before the freeway, right before it. It's,

it was Del Taco, so I had a couple burritos. So obviously, that went to my muscles, but, that's a brutal street. Everything is on that fucking street. Yeah, it was worth it

Speaking of fast food Then we'll probably get to some A couple of questions here But I have a Wendy's wrap on my house And it burnt down I don't think I've ever heard the story Of exactly what happened I bet it was one of those on-purpose arsons

Where like they get the insurance money It is we build a fucking building Or maybe it was insurance or something And, yeah, this is the new one. Is that, is that a Corona? Is it? Oh, shit, is that it? What the fuck happened?

Oh, yeah, there it is. Is this it? Yeah, here it is. Here's Wendy's by my house on fire. That's on fire. Yep, that, yep, that's it. Oh, my God. Did they see what happened?

No evidence, huh? Oh, that's, uh, see, we're just talking about that. Oh, just, Coincidentally, it's burnt down. Anyway, fast forward. We already have a brand new one. So after, so the band showed up

and right before we started practicing with our quiet cortexes, we went to Wendy's. And oh my gosh. Those Wendy's Nuggies? I think they actually call them Nuggies. They have a... If you look at them, it calls it like saucy nuggies.

But yeah, Wendy's chicken nuggets are fucking sick. I mean, I was, yeah, I was like, I was blown away. I was truly blown away. Like, this is fucking sick. Dude, the Nugs party pack? Oh, that's good. That's 2,000 calories, man. To eat that, you're a fat fuck.

Oh, my goodness. cool shout out to Wendy's and their and her nuggies I do recommend you trying them pretty pretty fucking sick let's

let's hop into some questions real quick Hey Garza Alex from Mesa Arizona I have a couple questions One What is your favorite Suicide Silence album cover And two Can you name a few things you like about Ernie

I know it might be hard for you to do But I love to hear it All right I hope to see you guys Next year in Arizona Stay horned up Peace Horned up

Alex Thank you very much For your question If you're just listening Alex shout out dude wearing the you United States Postal Service Uniform

Hell yeah You're out there grinding Man It's pretty sick Um Favorite Cover I mean, yeah, the first record

The cleansing that To the cover, the artwork, the font I mean, talk about luck Yeah, I love This album cover Because it's not This is what we used to do back in the day Like a lot of bands can't do it

Or I think any band in Arjana Can't do this Where it's not gory It just has like this what is this what is this factor but you know it's not soft shit it's like man it was such like a

such a hard line to hit it's like this guy always looking up as a bunch of a sharp shit coming out of his mouth so sick yeah I love the artwork and the artist I believe the artist Dave McKean

I want to say Dave McKean yep he's a graphic artist great artists and what happened was we tried to get him again

for no ton of bleed but he wanted nothing to do with us it was so unfortunate man it was so unfortunate because even like the inlay if you have this record even like the inlaid had his own artwork and really cool

shit where it wasn't gory but it was like what is this it's a really hard line of hit No other band or genre has hit that line It's either gory or it's like anime or it's like super like Mechanical but to hit the line where it's like what is this super fucking tough And then we ended up Yeah we went some other artists and we put blood on cover called it no-tent

and bleed so we obviously went the opposite direction But I think what happened was he doesn't do album covers I don't think he does album covers or even works with bands. But man, everything was nailed. I miss. Man, you'll be surprised how hard it is to find an artist to. Find the right artist for the record. But yeah, that's by far my, by far my favorite,

favorite album cover. It's also kind of awakened and another thought I have. have this might be a rant i'm gonna try not not to rant it's basically what this whole thing is but uh it's it it kind of blows me away the lack of being original it's always kind of like even since i was a kid it's like i don't know it's um musically or artwork wise um i don't know maybe um it's just rare when people do things and are their own leaders. I still do that today.

Like if I like something, it's because I like something. And, uh, yeah, we, uh, we experienced it back in a day, uh,

with the, uh, with the death cord genre. We just, we played a certain amps with, we wanted to play the amps. We tune this way because we were inspired, inspired by corn,

uh, but what we do with corn, which no one does is, uh, you don't take the sound you take what's behind the sound what created that sound and uh so i took the so the dynamic of two different guitar players like monkey and head we did that with suicide sounds like okay let's get two different guitar players that's nothing to do with the tuning or the amps or their sound or like we're okay well what's behind the sound what makes that sound and uh

it was kind of blew me away that this is most of the same thing that's most of the same you're people don't do that. They just take like the surface level stuff and they fucking take it. And I used to be bitter about it. It's like they took the amps and the tuning and it did the same fucking thing and then put another band name on it. And yeah, it was always kind of a thing. Like there's a lack of being original. To be honest, I do kind of see it in the podcast world without trying to not go on a ramp.

But I do it with podcasting. I just, everything we do, it's just what I want to do. It's just, okay, that looks cool. Let's, let's do that. Okay, I'm inspired by that. You know, I don't look at other mental podcasts and like, okay, I'm going to do that. It's just like, you're just asking for not being original in an oversaturated market, you know. So it's kind of like, or I'll do things here with the podcast and then we could apply it to the,

and then we could apply it to a music. Just trying to do this. Because, I mean, if you want to stick out, but how are you going to stick out if you're not doing what you want to do? You know, just kind of... There's a difference between being inspired and putting, like, your own twist on it and just taking something. And then it's just weird.

Like, yeah, I don't know where that comes from either. Like, I've been like this since I was a kid. And this, like, I've always liked doing things first. I never liked waiting for someone else to do it. Okay, then now I'm going to do it. It's always kind of, I'm not sure. Well, I could kind of guess where it came from, but maybe I'll save that for another day.

When I talk about that kind of stuff. I don't know. Where does that come from? I don't know. Yeah, before I go on, like, another rant. But, yeah, that's my favorite artwork. It's my favorite, favorite artwork. And the second, oh, so there's two-part question. Say something nice about Ernie.

Oh, my, this is, that is pretty hard. It's maybe the hardest question I've got in my life. So, yeah, Ernie is our drummer. he is a say something nice about him it's funny like people that are that I'm close with they'll like

um like they'll kind of tell me like you go pretty hard on Ernie it kind of seems like you're being a bully I can see how that might seem that way from the outside however I'm in an inside so it is kind of hard to explain

this to people but Ernie does things that really fucking piss me off. And, and he, he knows that. Well, maybe he doesn't. Drummers are, they are, it is a joke, but there's some seriousness to it.

It was just like, they'll drive you insane. They'll fucking drive you crazy. You want, you want the talent, but the talent tends to come with a little bit of psycho, and then you've got to be patient with, with that kind of psycho.

And drummers tend to have the most ego, So, uh, I like to, uh, I like to kind of squash the ego. And that's a daily thing. That's a daily thing. Um, I know it earned you pretty well. So, uh, the thing about me is if I do or I say something. So it's, seriously, this podcast thing is still weird for me.

It's still weird. It's, it's someone that told me five years ago that this is where I'm going to be at. I would not believe you. This is fucking crazy. But, uh, it's, it's very wild. But, uh, everything I do, everything I say, there is a reason for it. There's a legit reason for it. If I think something or it's, it's, I just don't say or do things.

It's out of the blue. It's for, it's for a reason. But, uh, yeah, Ernie will definitely, there, there's just the drummer stigma with the ego and, people that don't answer texts or read that's literally such a fucking pet people mind it just waste so much time it waste money at a time where I have no time and have no money to waste

so yeah it's everything is warranted it is because it's hard but it's hard to see that because that requires a look from the inside which only me and him know but so we will continue to talk shit to each other which uh and that helps out with my ego too

keeps me in check and I know I know that I suck and I can never practice enough but the equal the other side to that um yeah

Ernie is a little guy um you know you could definitely hit him up anytime and he will be there you know he's helped me move a couple of times actually he's always been there um

he's a he's a good friend and uh he is a phenomenal drummer does need work yes he knows that he knows but I think we're gonna I think we're both gonna find our groove in the next few months

and so um yeah Ernie is a good guy and um I I see the potential or where this can go. He's also

Latino, which is a big important factor for being the drummer or Suza Sonsi. And is that racist? If you don't want a white drummer, is that racist? I don't want a white drummer, straight up, like, I don't.

That was kind of like a criteria. There's just like this weird, which actually even Ernie took a long time bring him to earn uh learn for earn to learn uh there's like this certain backing off of the beat that you need to do in this band it's really hard to explain but uh it's like walking into a restaurant and you could be woke all you want but that shit comes out when you walk into a certain restaurant and you see certain kind of people working you know hey this might not be good Oh, this is going to be good.

You know, let's stop, let's stop pretending that we don't think these things. Yeah, Ernie, he's a good guy. We're actually just talking, like, episode with him is, think is overdue. We need to talk shit to each other and tell the public how much we hate each other. And you will all benefit from that. But, yeah, Ernie's a great guy, man. Yeah, so stay Stay horned up.

That's, uh, that's all. That's all I got to say about that. Head over to distro kid.com slash VIP slash Garza and save 30% off your membership to get all your songs on all streaming platforms. And now to the heaviest podcast of all time. Do we have, uh, we have, uh, two more, I think. Angel O. That's how it's spelled. Angel O.

Uh, uh, what are? are some of your non-skill albums, non-skip albums, any genre? You know what? To be honest, I skimmed this question earlier, and I had a hard time thinking. I was all right, I'm just going to see what, doing it live, we're doing it live. I was just going to see what kind of pops in my brain on the spot. And so two records popped in my head as far as like front to back. You can play it from the front and it's let it go.

To me, what I like about albums is when you put it on track one and you let it go, sometimes the band will have like a different kind of track, like track six or like track seven. And it's like more on like an emotional track. And then you get emotional. you start to like be at the gym we were on a walk or you're in your car just listening to the record and you get like shit or like kind of bring up some kind of kind of emotion

um in you so two records popped up in my head naturally and probably to stay on on these two but uh one was the red hushley peppers blood sugar sets magic that popped up in my head and um

yeah i would go on his long walks in riverside and just jam this record and out of nowhere i became obsessed with this band like fucking what early 30s i just i don't know i don't know what happened i just got obsessed with this fucking band what happened was i was browsing youtube just wasting time as we all do and uh i don't know how does people get these tracks but it was uh I found something It was like It was just John Fershante's track I think it was

It was the whole record And it was just his track And uh I was listening to it And uh I was like I'm not saying I'm like I'm not saying I'm anywhere near as good as he is

Or in the same Nothing but I heard myself Listen to his tracks He was kind of fucking up And the effects are kind of weird I was like huh Like you don't really hear that when

You hear the whole band going But yeah if I were you all look up blood sugar It's magic drama shant's track It's just his track Um And uh all the noises he's he's making And uh Making some mistakes

It was really fucking cool And then I kind of open up this door And uh I just We'll have listened to the record front of back And uh Yeah what was You know it's a good record

When that song we're talking about earlier comes on And it's like getting emotional I think it was What's the Let's see Can we get up the track listing Jay? I think it was

I could have lied I think it was that could have lied Play that one I'm just curious how the song starts I'll know right out the bat Yep That's it. Being on the walk and track six comes on, this one.

I was like, fuck. I'm thinking about my childhood right now. Yeah, so we have a record like that and it hits you at different moments. Like, that's a, that's a record, man. And so that's one, and I'll leave you with the next one. It's my third favorite band on the planet, Seven Dust. Animosity for me is like, it's a front to back. like player from track one

to track two and it has has really cool cool uh called for like peaks and valleys and heavy melodic unique creative um

just really fucking cool so I would and uh the last song is track Angel Son I listen to the song probably almost every day That's my I won't go into it today, but there'll be a time, but I'll listen to Angel's Sun almost all the time. It's kind of like, it's my Mitch Reminder.

This is fucking sad. But, you know, what I'm trying to get the track listing. That was, that was sick. Yeah, Xmas Day's track five, awesome song. That shit gets you going. Live again, track 10. Yep, another one of the songs. Sun is track 13. Yeah, it's the whole thing

assists. If you just play it front the back, it just takes you, like, it just takes you places. So yeah, I hope that answers your question angel. So have any two records you want to jam front of it back

whether you're a fan or not of those two bands. Give it a shot. You might be surprised. Cool. All right, let's get to the last question of the day. The only question I got, what is your dream lineup?

Because mine is, from any era, by the way. Mine is boundaries, Sangu Suu Kulikon, Signs of the Swarm, Whitechapel, and Sui co-headline. That is a sick-ass lineup in my head because I fuck with every band. So what is your dream lineup?

Well, Angel, thank you. Angel with the returning question. I appreciate it. We have two angels today. Oh, shit. One that'll never work because it's the guarantees. And I think we've had enough money stolen from us. I don't think I'm willing to do anything else. Dream lineup.

Any era. You didn't, am I, are we supposed to be? be included in there? Am I, are we, um, I guess for the sake of the, the question,

let's throw ourselves in there. Dream lineup. I will want, I want a triple co-handliner with suicide silence, Lorna Shore, slaughter to beville.

That's the goal. Maybe an opener, maybe a, one band to kind of do it. But that's, That's my, that's kind of where I'm at, triple co-headliner. I won't, I think, I want to our slaughter soon, though, which will probably be like, not.

There's, I mean, there's, I'm trying to get all, this is politics to it. There's like, just money and things, and there's this band's bigger and this one, and I understand, but, I'm putting a goal out there. Like, that is what's on my mind. I'm putting out there on, on YouTube. and the whole nine. But right now it's not possible. I understand there's numbers and there's...

I'm not delusional because it makes no sense right now. I'm really hoping that the stars align that the three of us do a three-way co-bill and have a fucking really sick opener and let the chips fall with it. they may. And then the fans will be the ones that

that win. But right now it makes no sense and there's unfortunately there's money and you know, I know, I know, I'm not stupid. I know how people view me and view suicide sounds. We're not in the conversation. I know that. I'm not a fucking idiot. However,

if you're not, not looking, if you're in an industry and you're not looking at what we're doing, you're fucking up. Especially now, like, there's, it's like the, without me, we're feeling too much. You know, everything I say here,

I mean, obviously, it's public, so I, I really don't fucking care. But right now, it's like, it's like the heavy thing. It's coming back. But, uh, it's really hard. It's impossible. To play heavy shit when you got a lot of money.

That's just the truth. It's hard to dig deep when you have your own house. You know, that's just the truth. And when you're talking suicide sounds, that people that are hungry, I'm not even hungry, I'm starving, that are out to fucking kill. You know, I've seen it happen.

You know, other bands and we actually, we've actually done it before. This is things change. Money could appear to know or money could go away or hype could come and go or

people die things can change with one record and the whole genre will fucking shift and so

yeah that is my personal goal I know no one's looking at me or us and I'm saying it publicly that's a big fucking mistake

and once they figure it out it's gonna be too late it's going to be too late I know the moment I wake up I'm up before everybody else I know for sure I'm up before you

and I go to bed after you that that's is it and uh you know we were talking about the the lineup earlier in Boston um

that didn't just happen that didn't just come out of nowhere that's not because of our name there's a reason why we're up there. We should be way lower and people will argue that but you know, no idea

how obsessive I've been with suicidazants and that's just me saying stuff. That's just me that's just me talking shit, you know, but I mean, pure. Everything I say is purehearted. I'll get like dark, but then I'll

bring it back around and, you know, it's just creative, competition and I believe in everybody and I want everyone to succeed but make no mistake I'm out to fucking kill those bands and if you're not

looking at us you're like I mean it's cool yeah I've had I've had this conversation like and I said it publicly too already on other podcasts

not mine but I can guess like I've never played so much guitar in my life I never thought about music so much in my life I never put so much into it unfortunately

that's kind of because anyone could get there anyone could do this and get up to the top but maintaining that that's where it gets fucking hard

and we've experienced that you know no one can take that away from me or the band I lived it experiences. When you try to maintain this thing, that's way harder. And I call it the cancer of being jaded, you know, and that's why I fucked up, you know,

got jaded. And to get back to that, to lose it, some bands, I'll say this part a lot. I learned I do copy this from Dana White. He will tell the same story again and again. But for some reason I still watch and listen and I stole this from him. So I just, if I ever like repeat myself, I just have to because you got to really drill some things into people sometimes, especially you're a story. But, uh, but yeah, not many bands have lost it once. Not many bands have lost it once. We've lost it twice. Full-fledged, the band's done. Done, dead. Done, dead. It's over. Bye. we lived it twice most bands will deal with that once

and we're still and we're still kind of creeping up and uh so fly or flight like this are big ones for me personally when I'm here losing my fucking mind just trying to um keeping a suicide silence alive

you know it's not this isn't a trend for me it was never about the money for me um no one knows my financial situation I heard someone save my financial situation on a podcast, and it made me laugh. I was like, oh, that's the perception. Interesting. Yeah, that's the condensed version.

I could go off right now, but I'm not. It took many years, many, many years. So it's really, it's just nice to every once in a while get a win when it's this, you know, it's just a loss here, a loss there, a loss here. You lost here. You know, it took me a long time to learn that every, every morning that you wake up, someone trying to fuck you. And doesn't that have to be a bad thing. It's just, you know, if you're doing cool shit, which we're lucky, and they're always going to, people are always going to count you out.

You know, they're always going to, people, you can't, you know, people are always not going to believe in you. Some will, you know, which is really cool. I know those people and I'm thankful for those people and friends, family and the few people in industry that have are semi-using their brain. But I kind of see what's going on. But it's cool. I think we should close it off before I just go off. What was the question?

So, yeah, that's my dream lineup. The Triple Co. With Lorna, Slaughter, and Us. I think it'll be fucking sick, dude. You know who is really going to win? And I talked about this already, too. Who is going to win are the fans. The death core genre,

if you have, like, that really sick, positive, creative tension and creative competition, and when Rob is pushing each other, man, it's like the genre is, I'm just really curious where the genre is going to be pushed. And that's cool. Um, it's really fucking cool, man. People may not know, but we're on that list. We're on the top three list.

It's like, uh, it's like, I feel like we're in high school again. Like, I saw, I saw us right here. And no one believed it. No one believed. It wasn't even a genre yet, man. It's, um, so it's just nice to get back to that, uh, um, believing in my own intuition with no ego

took me a long time to do that it's like my life's been one big circle so stupid so fucking dumb why is it why oh god but that's we're all human you know we all make mistakes

and we all learn and this is how how life is and hopefully when it just sucks and we just left so much destruction just

what was that movie with uh Morgan Freeman and Jim Carrey Bruce Almighty Right There's a point there's a scene Where uh Where Jim Carrey and

Morgan Freeman are in like the addict And he's making Jim Carrey Throughout his life is fucking chaos And he's making him mop the floor Like this like massive attic floor floor or like this like office um i think i think i might have fucking but uh it is it is this room it's not the scene but more it's course i've ended the movie but uh and obviously if you seen the movie you know that um morgan freeman plays god and uh he tells uh jim carey

no matter how dirty something is you can always clean it up and uh that's basically been my life and career. It's cool. I'm fucking I'm just happy to be here. I love everybody and would also fuck everyone at the same time. That's basically who I am. And it's fun.

It's fun. See, I, that's all the questions. Shout out to all the questions. Alex, Angel and Angel. Appreciate it. I saw Deadpool. A sick movie. I recommend it

If anyone Hasn't seen it yet Pretty sick I like getting to the movie theater Early Early like Like 30 minutes before Like I like being the first

When the walks in there And to sit down Me and me and my lady is chill for a little bit It's just quiet I was like man this is sick It's fucking sick Sick And anyway

Let the previous come on and then uh saw a preview they're they're making a a Bob Dylan movie that's gonna be epic

I thought what was the what was a release date I might be I want to say November but uh I want to say November or December only in theaters this December yep so this December

it's a movie about Bob Dylan that's gonna be Sick. Director, Walk the Line? Oh, come. Yeah, that's gonna...

Yeah, come on. Come on. Yeah, Bob Dylan is one of those... Bob Dylan is one of those artists that... This... You just keep hearing about. Like, all that the goats just talk about him. All the, like, the goats.

Like, old-school shit. It's... They all talk about Bob Dylan. I mean, he is literally... Literally the fucking goat. Cool. Maybe we could wrap it up on some

What's been going out in In the world? I heard someone tried to shoot Trump again. I did a little bit of research. Someone fucking, so it was in Florida. Someone was waiting to shoot Trump

outside of his golf course. And the rumor has it that this guy set up like a sniper area and he waited like He went, wait like for like up to 12 hours in, in the bushes. Between some of the holes, he was waiting for Trump to pretty much. So crazy second time, but like I see, I found him before, obviously anything happened.

I heard no, no shots were fired. I heard there's a rumor that there was, but the other rumor is that nothing, no gun got fired. But they found a guy and arrested him like, damn. So would you call that Technically A second attempt I mean that's a second attempt Correct? I mean

Even though there wasn't anything No shots were fired It was still Someone still tried That guy He's After one more record That's how I'm gonna look

This fucking is Done He's tired Like fucks So it's on And fuck deathcore Just this guy waited in the bushes man for over 10 like if you're if you're in the bushes for over 10

hours what are you thinking about what are you thinking about man to have time to think and still like be chilling there oh i can't i i can't i i can't imagine oh like if i want to do it i'll i'll set up my area but after two hours man like you'd be like what the fuck am i doing here you know this is probably not a good idea but uh luckily uh luckily uh

nothing happened so um so good for him uh I guess we could move on uh I saw something the drummer for Megadeth Durk which is a fucking he's a legend uh he was talking about like getting like metal artwork jacked

or metal uh like metal culture jacked for like merch merch designs and like all that stuff it's recent it's like yeah like like three weeks old or something yeah it's something like it's something like this yeah megadeth drummer

accuses fashion brand of stealing in quotations stealing heavy metal imagery I mean yeah this has been going on for quite some time so if you're just listening this hoodie is atrocious do people

I wouldn't wear that price tag 16 hundred bucks I mean yeah it's So obviously the subjects popped up a lot And I found myself having trouble processing Because you know I mean I'm walking around like the gym I'm walking around fonts

Trying to buy some bananas and You know Just ice cream and stuff You know I'm just like seeing like a I don't want to say normal person right But uh and they're wearing like a shirt

it's obviously not a definite band it's not a metal band it's like some video game or something else I'm like okay I mean that's cool um and then I was thinking like you know what do I

what do I uh what do I feel about that do I care should I care and uh with the help of Johnny Ramone

he waited on it in this book and I was like yeah that is true and yeah because people give like sometimes people just want to wear the band shirt and you know what that's cool

it is cool at least they're supporting in their own way maybe not as maybe not like maybe not the way you want but yeah if they're helping they are helping keeping the band name alive and out there and and I you know we can't just attack people for even celebrities

we can't just attack people for wearing a metal shirt like you know like because then that will fall into oh this is my band this this this this people like to put bands in a back pocket and for and people like to forget that there's people in the bands that are involved with the set of bands but um and also as artists and as bands that I I I it will naturally be upset about stuff like this. What you need to understand is that everything in life has a price. I mean,

I mean, this even goes beyond the merch we're talking about and metal music. Everything life has a price. You're going to have pros. You're going to have cons. And the metal scene right now, and it's just been happening for years, is fucking massive.

It's massive. Why? Because it's shit like this. Maybe not like this or like a band logo is getting jacked and now it's like a video game logo. It's like is that pretty sure or is that fucking what are the rings? You know, I mean, that I guess you could say for some people that's the con. Now like the, it's kind of more widespread. But the pro is more people are listening like to. It's a metal and heavy shit and um it's kind of under one umbrella it's just I don't think this is

one thing or just one shirt or just one subject or one band it's all kind of happening and it's just happening and uh for me you know I've been the same way since I've been like this since I was a child you know I've always wanted my band to play in arenas always that was literally that was literally the goal and um I was very ambitious and You know, we got lucky and accomplished that. But, uh, yeah, I just don't like, I don't like the idea of like gatekeeping fashion, you know, we're always borrowing, you know, fucking hip hop will borrow from metal. Metal is going to borrow from hip hop and country and different races. I mean, it's just so, it's just, that's just what's going to happen, you know.

And if you don't like it, you know, who cares? If you don't like it, you know, I think maybe you should maybe give it some more thought, you know, because there's, there is pros to it, you know, there is pros to it, you know, there is pros. It's not just one big con. You have Justin Bieber here wearing a fucking, what kind of shirt is that? Metallica shirt. You know, I mean, come on. I mean, that's maybe at surface level you may, you know, metal fans may not like that, you know. But it's, I think it is helping the genre.

I mean, the bigger the genre gets, the more other stuff is going to happen. You know, as I said, there's like some joke that the bigger your band gets, the more unpopular you become. And definitely notice that. Okay, well, you have this pro, but then there's just going to be a con that comes with it.

So anyway, I get, you know, people will feel different about this, but it's okay for someone to wear a band shirt. If they don't know the band, it's fine. You know, at least they're wearing, just wearing a shirt, I mean, that's, that's fine. Most people,

most people are just casual music listeners. You know, obviously, you know, does that make you better than them? Does that make me better than them? I mean, it's like, what are we, it's like, what are we talking about, you know? I guess to top off this subject, Like, you know, being a, being a someone in, what's I in sixth grade or seventh, like around that, like a child.

Fucking, what, 11 years old or something? You know, I was a fucking loser. I'm, I guess some will argue, I still am, but, you know, the metal scene accepted me. And I was a loser and I'm thankful for that. And I found a home here. and I've lived here um you know for

for quite some time well over two decades well over two decades probably 25 years so yeah I'm I'm I'm grateful for that and you know but so

who says someone else can't be accepted regardless of what what kind of person they are you know but yeah I'm sure we all have different opinions about that about this so um

yeah anyway I think it's okay for people to wear the fucking band shirt. It's fine. And, uh, the ripping off of band logos will, will, uh, continue to, uh, happen. And, um, and it's not 9 p.m. so the lights naturally shut off here, which I always kind of struggle. How do you, I don't, I don't, I don't know how you turn off these automatic lights, but, uh, yeah, that's, uh, that's it for, I think, I think that's all I got. Um, I am currently wearing a podcast. shirt so if you can please support the podcast

get a shirt the front says life gets heavy we got the logo right here on the sleeve classy as fuck the back has the demon's skull Garza podcast my shopifyrify.com I'll put it down in the description

yeah anyway uh yeah thank you for listening and watching it's pretty heavy way to close this I think we went pretty everywhere with this one Death, emotional. Talk some shit.

But pure-hearted. Saw some sick shows. But, yeah, anyway, thank you for listening to Washington. Thank you, Alex, Angel and Angel, for your questions. Yeah, I will see you guys next week. Appreciate it. Later.