Garza Podcast - 147 - New 7-String, Mayhem & Biggest Fear

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

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Going, starting. Action. Yeah, we need like a word. Action. Rolling or drinking. Well, everyone, good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening or for some of you, good night.

Because some of us listen to this thing when we're falling asleep. I do. But anyway, cheers everybody. You know, some weeks you're just like, you're just drag. This is October has been a very draggy Um Month

Not not not in a bad way Sometimes you're just You're just fucking and busy Busy you're trying to catch up keep up So that's where I'm at That's where we're at Um But some great news

This week Jay here has been Helping out with the podcast for well over a year and a half Right Jay? Like a year or a year and some change So He's been helping But now as of this week he's officially full-time a part of he always was a part of the family

But now we're actually now he's actually doing it a little bit better Jay came from Target, huh? Target warehouse hell yeah, so I think this is a little bit better right so we've been shown all week It's crazy how much time everything takes it's a fuck it's it's it is truly a full-time thing so So talk about a big weight lipped it off my shoulders, so I'm pretty stoked. But yeah, anyway, just to go, we're just going to go straight in. I know we've been talking about it, and I've been trying to manifest it. And it's now, it's a physical, real thing.

We have the, it made his debut. Got the second Fender Semester string here. And it's literally, It's literally me. It actually looks better in person than it was as an idea or my mind. So we had the show Saturday and I got done literally Friday evening. So pretty gnarly. It's already have some scratches on it.

Already some battle scars, but man, it's crazy. Shout out to Javier, Cuba. He really put in a lot of time. A lot of people offender. As always, people are known for many years. But, yeah, Jay, I was going to ask you, can you look up suicide silence at Tila tour dates. And now, because I pull that up because it gives me,

like, an accurate timeline about how everything happened. But I want to see it was summer. 2018 if I'm correct perfect so yeah so it was January 2018 when I first started chatting with the Fender so what's that Jay six years nine twenty one two twenty four yeah going on going on seven years so from the conversation to the first one to this getting in my hand it took almost seven years and definitely well worth the wait. I guess we should do all the geeky stuff, huh? Just I know people

have been asking questions and I've been waiting for this day and opportunities. So I guess we could just start talking about it, showing it. Everything is very foundation. Everything is like a foundational wood.

Not besides the obvious with Fender and Semisstrings, it's very time-tested stuff so that the body is mahogany maple neck just a one piece there ebony fretboard uh no fret markers obviously and the side dots are if you put a flashlight to it is actually a glow in the dark because there's been issues my whole career where the lights go out and I have no idea where I'm at. And I'm just guessing. So that's pretty cool.

I can actually see where I'm at. Yeah, Fender, locking tuners. Bone nut, jumbo frets, 24 frets. The scale is 26 and a half. I think the biggest thing is, I believe, because we've been trying to find out, and it looks like this is the first ever,

official Fender Not Squire This is the first Fender Semispring Hardtail So it's on here I think the first one ever in history Is actually on this Guitar

And what's cool about Fender is they still have like They still have all like the old school Old school like machinery And like the steel bender So the stuff they have from the 60s and so on Like that's what they use to make this bridge Which is pretty cool but also like a modern twist with the with the Fender Ultra saddles and a play is great one knob obviously three-way switch nothing uh nothing crazy

one this one ply uh pick guard i forgot the exact thickness of the pick guard because i wanted something with more beefy not your standard pick guard i feel a little bit or too thin so it's really uh it's pretty Pretty beefy. So the pickups are a bare knuckle aftermath, which is people have been asking me. And I'm a big fan of passive pickups. Every pickup is awesome, but, you know, I'm just for Fender. It just reacts better.

It really builds a relationship with the wood. And, yeah, string through, obviously, because it's a hard tale. And so also, like once a year, Because obviously I play guitar and suicide sounds. Once a year, I'll go up here. It's crazy. I'll actually play something a little bit higher.

And when I do that once a year, we have some really cool cutaways. So you want to get up there and shred or play some fucking nimiddle creepy higher parts. You can do that now. Yeah, it's black hardware. I put the track blocks on there. but it's it is a real it's a real thing

it's honestly like it doesn't it still does not seem real it just doesn't seem real I can't believe uh yeah we're gonna plug it in just so you really get a feel for it

just simple chugs just wrote that riff right now I should probably I should probably keep that one John I'm pretty stoked on it so it has like the I know I've always loved

the 26 and a half scale. I don't know what it is. I don't like, I guess you could say, official baritones, but just so you get to gist of it. And this is where the magic really happens, which I have no idea how they did it. But yeah, and also the neck is basically like a baseball bat

because I want them more like wood. You'd be like feel it, you know. So it's a lot fatter than. your average neck. I just, no, no, I like the,

I like feeling like I'm holding something. So what they did, I didn't know exactly what I wanted, so I kind of trusted them. And they came back with, I never heard of it, literally until last month, but an E shape.

It's not C, it's not D, it's an E shape. And as time goes on, I'm really starting to love it. You know, it just, it just feels,

I just feels like I have like a, you know, I know, I just feel it. So it's a little bit fatter neck than usual, which is pretty cool. But what this guitar can really do, and I'm still experimenting with it, is this. So this is clean, obviously, but everyone plays that riff. If you pick up a guitar and play clean, you're going to play that riff. But when you play clean, it just, it's, it sounds like a fender.

and then when you put on the the gain and all the good stuff it sounds maintains like the Fender character and integrity but can still you know hold up with like the modern slam stuff so pretty cool man I still I just I can't believe it there it is boom I love Fender I'm gonna die at Fender guy and uh you know what just one more chug Just so we really get it, just so we understand what's happening here, just a string tension is crazy. They nailed it. They absolutely nailed it. Boom. Yeah, enough of me playing before I go on some kind of a, before I go on a rant.

There it is. I've been sleeping with it. It's by my bedside. So, oh, wow, I'm all, I'm all horned up right now, man. I don't know where to go. I don't know where to go anymore. But yeah, obviously, just to close it off, for just to manifest it with that purpose, obviously,

there's a bigger vision with this guitar. And obviously I'm very lucky to have it, and it's sick, but I do want this to be a signature model at some point. That's going to take a while for Fender probably to be open to it. But I think it we just, it's going to take, I can't do it by myself just to be realistic. It's going to take a lot of people to basically hound them. They've got to keep hearing my name, keep seeing it.

And I'm going to put in the work to put this thing out there as much possible video, podcasting, shows, whatever. I'm going to keep attaching my name to it. And with the help of you, maybe reminding Fender. I think that will become a reality at some point because one of my dreams when I die is you know I want you know people to have what I didn't have you know I was a Fender guy I love playing slam and heavy riffs but you know the the Fender's semestring it didn't exist for it for me and that it's who I am and if I had this guitar when I was you know coming up we're going to imagine what we would have came up with.

So when I'm dead and gone or cremated, these guitars are going to live way past me and hopefully inspire another wave of heavy shit. So that's one of my dreams. So we'll see what happens. So anyway, thank you for listening to that. What a combination. It was a combination of a lot of things. Crazy, crazy week.

I don't think I ever had a more busy week in my life. But also fun, exhausting. We did that. We had the hometown show at the Mayhem Festival. Really cool. That was last Saturday. The band kind of touched on it when we were all talking about a pretty cool. it felt like a moment kind of felt like everything just like added up um so it's nice to i know i

know i always i know i always tell you guys like you know it's nice to have some wins you know we know we're all human and we we all fail and we all freaking have hard days and we have some wins and more specifically some big wins i think it was uh it was cool we were especially me like alone personally i was like really working towards that moment for a while like uh literally like i'm at i'm at the gym in a morning i'm literally putting the songs on on the treadmill thinking about that moment and i was doing it every fucking day um i know uh no i know every band the festival didn't want it want that moment more than me um yeah it's not get too dark but yeah just you know I was hitting, you know, when you're on it.

You know, the gym sucks sometimes. You know, you're just kind of forcing yourself, but I was just jogging, just thinking about, thinking about the sun going down, thinking about how people are going to react, thinking about what emotion I'm going to put out there. And, uh, just kind of, you know, it's, I think we're successful.

It was, it was cool, man. It was, uh, you know, you know, without going on another rant, I was like when we're about to play a show like that, I try to treat every show, every show like the same, but there's just like realities. Like I like, you know, I was like, what am I going to do before the show?

Like, what am I trying to say? You know, and yeah, sometimes it lands and sometimes it doesn't. But I think the amount of time, you know, was hanging out with, hanging out with myself. You know, I like to call it. I'm trying to put this into words because obviously this is people are watching right now and listening which is a trip but some of you are in your kitchen drinking coffee listening to this pretty cool but I call it opening the door to let your demons out you know because they're always going to

be that we all have them I don't something wrong with that we're all human and moments like plain it's more it's more so like the live show where it's like okay i purposely open up the door and i say i like to open up the door and let and let my demons run through my flesh and then just let the emotion come out where that is and then that goes through the guitar the pickups out into the PA and that's what you hear and feel you know I think people can relate to you know to the feelings in bad days especially in metal you know it's like a it's a different fucking different language but yeah uh man it's going in the gym and not this not wanting to be there just just thinking day after day

day after day just thinking about about that moment um also you know i've been pretty vocal i'm very competitive you know i love everybody i want everyone to be successful but man i was i felt like i took the the embodiment of a tank i always say i'm i'm a tank but i really felt like i really truly in a healthy way not my ego but healthy uh just embodied what i want to do it was cool It was fun. But most importantly, it was fun. Thank you, Bainham, for having us, you know, hometown show. Without getting to the business, I felt it was really added up.

We got paid what we're worth, and that hasn't happened in a long time. So it's cool. It's really a lot of things added up. My mom and dad were size sage. They're like right by me. You know, it's just cool. My lady was there. And, you know, it's this little big things, little things.

We're just clicking. Like, just, we're just connecting. And then here comes the last song. Last song's coming up. Big moment. Home town show. There's certain songs we play that people just really react to. And no pity for Coward is one of them.

And start the song, and, you know, the stage feels a little funny. And, yeah, they cut off, when I say they, I don't know, someone was just doing their job, which is fine. It's not the festival, it's not, I don't think someone just kind of saw what was happening. I won't say that they're banning, but one band was extremely unprofessional,

and they went over their time and it continued to. So when that stuff happens, it's kind of one band, it kind of takes the hit. and sometimes it's us. And I saw the bands were trying to do it. I was like, okay. I was like, what time is it? They're still playing. We should be

playing right now. But then we kind of all had an unspoken thing amongst ourselves. It doesn't matter what happens, we're not going to stop playing. Because we had an issue with the last festival. Again, nothing against the other festival we play, but we cut two songs because other bands were unprofessional. And like, we're not doing that shit.

where it's going to play and that's it and yeah but uh you know it's okay they cut off the power and we all just looked at each other with the unspoken transcended words and language just uh kept playing and just let the music and speak um and the fan stayed it was sang along was really it was a it was a moment that you know even my obsessive you know competitive side at the gym couldn't even. Yeah, it was cool. It was awesome. Yeah, I played the whole song and the other band.

They did it on purpose. I know they probably had someone telling them, you got to start your set. But they're starting their set, no one was walking over. You know, that's, it was, it couldn't have planned it better myself. Pretty cool. And then they realized the sound,

they cuff PA, they realized that's not working, let's cut off the lights. It's like everything they tried to do, it's made it better. So it's like it was planned in like some crazy, some crazy way. You can't plan stuff like that. It's cool. Very lucky, you know, a lot of things. It's cool. It's cool.

I had an ongoing joke. I feel like, I feel like. I feel I graduated from being shot to hot. I think I finally became cool. I got the guitar, the show. I was like, oh, I think I'm not a loser anymore. No, I'm parcel. I am.

But yeah, shout out to Mayhem. It was a special day, evening. Really cool. The turnout was cool. I let the people speak for us on that. Yeah, and it's also weird. being responsible. You know, I had to...

Some of us had to leave early. Mark had a wedding the next day. I had a podcast next morning. So as much as we wanted to stay in, it's rage and celebrate. You know, there is a price to pay. And... I had a couple drinks with my old friends. And leaving...

And we're leaving through a parkway drive. I didn't even go to the main stage, which is unfortunate. It's like that's a But Yeah me and my lady were walking And man It sounded like Parkwell was having a great set I just hear like

People just fucking screaming It was awesome It's like damn they're It's really cool Just Um I'm seeing here Well hear how far that

That band's come And then Look up as early as I could next day and I won't say who because people will just be looking for it but yeah I made it I was ready we were in here and during during the episode we were filming I was like feeling sick and then right when the band left I went to the bathroom started puking I was like ma'am you know what but I'm proud and I'm not glad we didn't cancel that and then took a little nap and saw saw the show it was awesome and uh what else

what else did we do next day jay came here in her first first day and um i saw last night was uh in riverside which is where we're from um so i hate breeding carcass and crypto harms away that was freaking sick i still can't say this word the the Riverside Municipal Auditorium. Is that it? And yeah, thank you for the couple people that bought me a drink, space dust. Thank you for that. I appreciate it. I was going to leave early, but I was like, I can't. I got to see Heybre. At least like a couple of songs. And I was outside. And well, first of all, Haybury was sick. I saw two songs and left. But it was sick.

It just never, it, it never ends. You, as a human, you always have to be reminded. And that's why, you know, the band's tour that. That's what we tore. You're, you remind people that you're, who you are. And you're still sick. You're not shot. And it sounded exactly, even better.

Just marshals and people were stoked. It was awesome. And I was on a substance. Yeah, I was on a substance. It's, yeah, it's, people call it marijuana. So I was smoking marijuana. I was on a substance. That's cool.

Man, just kind of, it just enhanced, like, all the things. It's like the drums, the guitar tone. And the, and the, what am I trying to say? I know what I want to say, but how do I say it? Just enhanced a moment. Like, it was a moment. You know, watching the band that's been doing it for a long time. It's always cool to see.

Carcass, Bill is a legend. I was just watching him like a creep. Drinking my beer. It's looking at him. Like, oh shit. The guitar player for a car. He was that sick. And that I saw Homish Way for the first time.

They were cool. Crypto was awesome. And went home, came here, and just to rinse, rinse every people. Yeah, I saw a lot of people at the show. So I met you, you know, it was cool. Thank you for coming up and saying, saying what's up. It's always nice. And also thank you for saving me some money.

They have, they had this deal there at the, at this venue, Riverside, or what is it? It's like, buy a beer and get, what is it? I think it's buy, if you buy two beers, you get two shots for five bucks. It was like some, it's just some deal that like makes you drink a shot. So I had, I did, I was under a couple substances. But it made the moment better and it was cool. It was really cool.

But anyway, we are officially in fall. We're a long sleep, pretty cool. It's my favorite shirt, I think. It's one of my favorite shirts. We're going outside now. It's a little bit cold. Which is nice. It's crazy how fast seasons just pass.

I'm like thinking about when summer over like a fucking impatient. dick and then it's over now now no one we're falling pretty cool well yeah had a couple rants right uh well with you and jah should we hop into some uh questions and i'll up while i sip this liquid of the gods right here first question here we go from a grand slam bando right okay let's do it what's the best way to find members. I'm having a very hard time finding, like, a drummer

for my slam band. It would be greatly appreciated if you can give you some feedback on things I can do to find members. Did he say he was looking for a drummer? Yeah. Okay. All right. Someone needs a drummer for a slam band. It's right here. You're all saying you need a band members. We got... He needs a drummer.

I assume a guest singer. I'm gonna guess Yeah So I was actually lurking your page And I was trying to find out where you're from So I could shout out your Your town

But I really couldn't find anything I found I think The venue was AMH Like a venue and perfect Yeah Great job Jay

I think it's at the very bottom The very bottom Uh Bottom no more More Yeah so that one there's go over oh no I meant uh

at the that yeah but the slide oh maybe it's not I'm idiot but I think the venue's called AMH actually Jay you were right

yep so AMH where's where's this so I assume you're from New York Ammaville AMH who was just talking about that

who was it was Pinn and Shruth they were just talking about AMH so I assume you're from that area. So yeah, if you're in New York, someone needs a drummer and they want to start out a slam band. Well, from the looks of it, how do you find band members? How do you do that? Again, I'll say it too many times. I'm going to shoot you over the experience and hopefully that, uh, that helps or doesn't. How do you find band members? Well, in your benefit,

It looks like from I can see, you're in New York. And a big one is going to shows. If you have any opportunity, this doesn't even apply to music, anything. If you have any opportunity to do anything in person, like, you got to do it. I mean, coming from an introvert. Something that always kind of run me in the wrong way,

when people say they're introverted, I think the introverts, you can't understand it because introverted and introvert like you're not you don't talk to anybody or go anywhere it's a big difference you know i was a straight up introvert i was mute but even then a shy kid just didn't talk stuttered the whole whatever whatever obstacle you might have um i still went to shows i still went to denny's i still uh any opportunity i could get to be somewhere in person to There's a show face. Sometimes he's got a show face. And I, without knowing back then, that's what I did. Oh, this is showing a face.

I went to the hangouts. At the shows, people will go to Denny's. That was a big one. There's stories of Mitch, peeing and mustard bottles and ketchup bottles. So I'm always sketched out when I go to restaurants and, you know, getting cash in for my french fries. because I just saw what he did. Anyway.

Yeah, anytime that I could show a face, I showed a face, no matter what, how shy I was, how nervous. And it's also had a funny time because I didn't start drinking until I was 21. Like the week before, because Alex, our previous drummer, his birthday is November 21st. So a week before me, a week and a half, he had his 21st birthday, so we drank at that. Then on my birthday, my turn 21, that's when I started becoming a complete, selfish psychopath. So you're talking pre-alcohol.

I didn't smoke. I didn't do nothing. I felt my emotions and went to the hardcore shows, went to death mental shows, went to the new, musical shows, the big ones, like the clubs, the arenas, um, anywhere. And, um, I remember seeing Mitch in the, uh, in the, uh, pit, this motion. And he kind of just, kind of just become part of these circles, you know, and you develop friendships and some friends might, um, introduce you to someone else who you don't know. But, uh, um, you know. Yeah, finding band members

You definitely can't go wrong with showing in face And there's probably people that might be in a little bit smaller town So I understand Probably a bit more higher pressure If someone's here in town and you're like And you're in like Billings Montana You better go to that fucking show Like you better quit your job

Like straight up You're fucking Go to the one show Where you might meet someone Uh But yeah but New York I mean that's a Yeah, you have a lot of

options there so showing face um it is a it is a loaded question finding band members because

you don't go out to find band members but that's what happens so what is that I don't know I guess I haven't really put all the thought into that because there what how do you there was uh it was like intention without intention like going out because you

genuinely want to i did that i genuinely wanted to see this band or whatever mosh whatever but i was also trying to start a band but i wasn't talking anyone which is it's a big issue with music or a lot of snakes and um how do you say like one upers trying to like get their next step but i never did that i could sit here and probably say that uh you know back in like the local shows it's where yeah it's how do you say that how do you it's intention without intention you know and there is uh i always say clichés but it's just so true sometimes I mean, you gotta love it. You gotta love it.

I genuinely love it. So you just, you'll naturally organically do things, you know, without, you know, any plan. But you being from New York, yeah, and then there's also the time test the rule. You gotta be sick. You gotta be sick. And I think that can only come from, from practice. And you could, you could suck in practice. It's fine.

And that's kind of the whole purpose of it. But hopefully that helps you try not to go on a full-on rant. But good luck. Good luck. It seems we're already going to the show, which is cool. So right on. All right, Jay, should we move on to our first written question? How do you say this name, you think?

Eldor stress. Very good. Jay has a natural accent. He has that thing. Okay. What is your biggest fear outside of music? This is a good one. I saw this, my, oh, this is, I made a slam before this one.

Okay. My biggest fear is, I think we have big fears and we have little fears. The big one, the big tamale, the big enchilada is me dying soon. It's not dying itself. Because we're all going to die. We're all going to get older. We're all going to get wrinkles. And that's fine.

But my biggest fear is dying sooner than I'm supposed to. Like if I die on 40 or 45, that'll be so tragic. Like just all the time just, yeah, all the time just trying to like build, you know, suicide silence and do this and for all you to enjoy it and just to get to like kind of the finish line just boom it stops like fuck that would that would be terrifying that would literally suck you know could be anything could be car crash or you know our health isn't guaranteed so i try to uh stay healthy out there um but my biggest fear is that is dying young that's my biggest fear.

Yeah, then you have little fears. Like, you know, I'm afraid of spiders, like, black widows. This is me about a black widow. It's just like, they just look, the spiders just look fucking, I don't know. They just look, ugh. All right, so we're looking at pictures of black widows right now. And what's the, Jay, what's the death rate if you get bit by a black widow? Like, what's like the likelihood?

Like do you? Okay, so in the United States there, there have been no deaths from black widow spider bites since 1983. Okay, so that's, I don't know that. So apparently you'll be fine. Okay, so black widow bites are rarely fatal. Okay. Well, that's, uh, that's great news. Yeah, what is it about spider? They're just like, I don't know.

There's something about like the shape of a spider. It's just a arachnophobia Which is weird because I love that movie That's a sick movie Araknophobia If I haven't seen it That's a pretty cool movie

I learned This about myself This was It was definitely within the year Maybe like six months ago I was outside my house Looking out in the front yard It's looking at at the moon

Taking it all in And Oh yeah makes sense because it was right before summer which is when the spiders tend to come out in California so I was looking up like right outside our practice space and I was like looking I was watching this uh this spider like it was made it was making it's a web and you know it's going around a circle and it's looking at it for a while I was like um to be transparent with you I was also on a substance um so but I was just uh I was just looking at it

because I'm afraid of spiders, but it kind of hit me, like, sometimes you need to run towards the things you're afraid of. So I was just looking at it. I'm like, yeah, it's just the way it acts. It's patient, and no matter what, it's always a spider. It's kind of me even realized, like, can it help me process, like, you know, to be what you're afraid of sometimes? It's pretty cool.

Without me going on some spiritual rant, um, what else? What else am I afraid of since we're already on a subject? We got the big one, the small one. I become a lot. When you get older, you do become more self-aware. But it ties into the big, my big fear of death. So when you're driving on tour, it's just like, there's just more realities. you natural human things like you know you have harder time fall in sleep because you're older

and so you know it's being you know driving to next date you know 4 a.m and like the you feel like the rumble strips and stuff you're just like ah it's a little bit more reality a lot more to lose um a lot more to lose now like the family and uh money that i'm trying to provide Um, this, this more, you know, we all do with it, you know, when you're driving to work, you probably have a family to support. It's more, or your wife or your girlfriend or, you know, your chick pregnant or something. Just, just, just with more realities that now you have something to lose. And that, just like the reminder, every night reminder, pretty much. Just like, I don't know why, but never, um, am I afraid? Am I scared?

Maybe I am. Maybe this is something We processed that But driving at night Is different now And that hit me The past two tours I don't know what it is

Like a switch happened I don't know I don't know And it's more Trouble falling asleep out there And am I afraid I guess I am if I'm talking about it But yeah

Those are I guess we could top up That subject Before we're going under death rant. All right, let's do the next, we got a video question here. Let's do it. Aaron Griffey.

Hey, Chris, what's up? My name's Aaron Griffey. I'm from Lexington, Kentucky, and I play guitar and a metal core band called Age of Panic. And my question is, when should a band graduate from EPs and singles

and start working on the first full length? And also, what can new or younger bands do to get on the radar? I guess bigger bands and labels and promoters and whatnot. Aaron Griffey, I got to say this right out of the gates. Great intro. Said your full name, the town you're from, and the band. In a fucking short amount of time, that's how it's done.

That's very, what's the word? Very purposeful. Very, very cool. Yeah, that's a, that's an interesting question. I mean, I guess now, now it's so different with how people consume music. Fuck, how do you know when the writer record? Interesting. I thought about this maybe ever.

Unfortunately, again, I'm a cliche guy. I'll say it almost every podcast. I do apologize. But I'll find a new way to say it. Maybe I'll go on the substance and think about this for a while. But you just know. Fuck. Especially when we're talking music,

that's like a, music is its own, it's its own things. It's not even you or me or it's just like it's its own, it kind of chooses. So every band's kind of on their own tempo. How do you know? How do we know?

How do we know? It's good. You just know. I just felt like the time was right to write a record. Because we put out that EP and it was taken. It was gaining some traction. I guess that's how we knew. We just, we were, you know, people were coming out to the shows.

They were buying the EP. They were, you know, we were hanging out together all the time. We're going on the shows. There's label interest there. We were just working our ass off and doing what we want to do. And interesting, I never thought about that ever. I guess that's what we did. We just put out some EPs until...

Because everything you do, not even music, but in life. It's just, yeah, everything you do, it's like, it's not... You're never ready, right? You're just... It's like you're ready, but you're not. Or you could see yourself ready. So you take the next step. before you're there.

I mean, I still do that today. Like, I see you next step. Am I ready? No. But I'm going to do it anyways because I am. Obviously, that makes no sense. I get it. But it's just, yeah, it's just, I'm ready.

I'm ready. But not. Always at next step. It's like, I guess you could relate it to maybe learning a song, like, because because you can't play a song and you can't play it well yet but in time you eventually become better at it you know so that's uh that's actually a surprisingly difficult question hmm thank you for that anyway yeah good luck with that um one thing i

i've always done in my life it's uh intuition you know always been uh intuitive so anyway thank thank you for your question man good luck Lexington Kentucky Fuck yeah Oh my goodness Let's do it Alright next Uh written question

Then we'll We'll fucking Move on Earth weary twins Go on the TalkToua podcast Dude I had a This has been my Hater week

Because I found myself Kind of hating on On the Hawk Tua chick I don't I don't take it back I don't but first of all

the podcast name is genius and it's sick talk to her I mean I saw that all it's like fuck sometimes you see things you're like that's sick

great name um I just kind of I wonder like would I go on if I got asked I probably would huh that would be sick

I mean there's you know there's different kinds of media different kinds of you know interview styles maybe that's

maybe she'll have her own you know I'm not I'm probably gonna go there and think about my life or anything uh maybe I'll probably go there

you know talk some shit have fun you know maybe that will be a thing but uh but you know what sign me up come on you never know

something that this podcast has done for me is that it's kept my my mind open And my curiosity Pretty much that door Is this

Flown open 24 7 And What is I just I just read this Um At the

What is it The At the heart of being open-minded It's curiosity And curiosity does not take sides It's very true Curiosity does not take sides That's something I

Do stand behind Yeah If I get that offer Maybe when we're trying to promote the next record if it's even even still around do you podcast are so fickle they they fucking disappear it's just it's tough

and me and jay are learning firsthand it's just it's a it's a full-time gig but uh but yeah thank you for your uh questions i appreciate I think we'll probably stop it two and two um probably save the rest for um another time

so right now it's uh it's it's friday this will be posted on on monday if we get through this week man it's going to be my poor my poor girlfriend we're because we have two more guests tomorrow and I'm like a total

eight podcast this week I don't think we ever done that um Sunday it's date night and I'm probably going to be on a substance I'm going to be drinking a lot of substances No I won't be that bad One of my favorite things to do is to sit down Just

Have a beer or two Maybe three having this talk to one person It's always nice That one person tends to be my lady It's nice chill out, clear the mind It's nice I'll try No promises

No promises Well yeah Should we, uh, let's see. We covered, uh, I got, I got, I got my notes here. I something is wrong with my, uh, something's wrong with my Spotify payment. And, uh, it didn't go through. So today, spot off, so I, I don't have premium right now on Spotify. I was like, oh, this sucks.

How do you, how do you all do this? If you don't pay for Spotify, what are you doing? I was like, oh, this. Yeah, so literally once this shit's done. I'm gonna check on my payment plan. But yeah, so you click the artist and you can't choose what record you wanna listen to. And now this is looking at seven does.

I'm like, okay, I'm gonna fucking, and it wouldn't work, it went to, I don't, it chose a song with a bunch of ads. I'm like, oh, this is, holy crap. I don't know how people do it. I don't know. But maybe that's I don't know

Maybe that's like the instant gratification Part of it But yeah that shit sucks You know I got really spoiled with no ads And you can hear You could hear

Any record you want At any moment And that's sick You know not You know what You know what It's not sick What was that music guy thing

What you go by any eight CDs or 12 or one cent Was that ever real? Did any of you ever do that? Yeah, I did that. You did? Yeah.

Did it work? Oh yeah. It worked. Did you get 12 CDs? Oh, wow. It worked. I always wonder if it was like a scam. There's like collecting.

Yeah, how do you... For one cent? I think... It was like one thing, right? $1 or something? Oh. So it's like a... it's like a semi-scam

yeah oh then the bills came see yeah this is a it's like they rope you in I would send that shit back dude I was send that shit back

this this reminds me when you would let friends borrow CDs it's a fucking worst it's the worst we all have that one friend that we

They will swear to your face. They will swear to you. I'm going to bring a CD back. It's going to find, I'm going to borrow this. It's going to come back in one piece. Either they don't bring it back or it's back not in one piece. I won't say who it is. I won't say who it is, but still, I still consider him a friend of mine.

That CD is coming back scratched or not coming back at all. And they swear to you. And they swear and they swear, they're probably going to hell. And I will continue to pray for that person. But should I say this? Then I let, I also let this person borrow my guitar. And the same story, heard a million times. And came back and the fucking nut was busted.

So I took, I took some kind of what? Because the nut from the high ee, so the high e wouldn't stay there. So I basically like, I taped the two strings. here so that how you won't go anywhere. It's like, uh, but in the end of day, it's our fault. And in the end of day, that's how we learned to navigate those kind of situations. The amount of swearing that was going on, oh my goodness. But we, uh, obviously in high school, we're all, we're all learning.

But, uh, yeah, that's all I got to say about that. Within Jay, should we hop on some current events and call it called this motherfucker a day? Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Okay. What's going on? Inductees is Ozzy Osbourne, foreigner, Peter Frampton. Dave Matthew's band shared. They're all

legends. Wait, so they're inducted. They're in. Oh, great. Those are all no-brainers. You know a band that no one talks about? That's fucking sick. Dave Matthews band. There's this record

called uh it's basically they're they're not hit record but I bought it I love this record it's called

uh every day that yeah this record oh my gosh so this um

I think Dave found a baritone it's a a Jerry John baritone it's like a fuck what's the scale on Jerry John

baritone it's like a 29 scale 28 something crazy but it's a six string Yeah, so it's like that, but it wasn't black. Yes, that's part, that's its acoustic. Yeah, it's a Jerry John Baritone.

Yep, there it is. Boom. That guitar is sick. I want to say it's a 28 scale, and it's in standard B. So, Jerry Jones, sorry. I said Jerry John. Whoops. Yeah, Jerry Jones.

I want to say it's 28. I want to say the skill is 20, but, uh... So yeah, he has, like, songs in, like, standard B. So we have those kind of riffs in a lower tuning. It's just... The first song, that... The first song, that riff is fucked up. I think we should probably try to play it.

Yeah, there it is. So... Confirm Jerry Jones, Baritone Black, with a longer-than-standard scale, 28 inches. Yep, there it is. Pretty fucking cool. I've always one-on-one, but they're,

It's super expensive. It's like, what am I going to buy? Am I going to buy a car or am I going to buy a... Jerry Jones Baritone? I'll buy both. Depending how big the podcast gets. We'll see. Now I now we have Jay.

Yeah, what's the first track? I think it is... Oh, I did it. Okay, this, okay, the way this song kicks in and that fucking riff is... Okay, we got to play it. Crank it for like 10 seconds. Oh, my...

to do the uh you YouTube but I want everyone on YouTube and you you have you had to hear this riff because this rip horns me up what's video for it forgot that is that is heavy it sounds fucked yeah shout out to Dave Matthews I think he's uh from isn't he from Africa Dave Matthew Spanish Dave Dave himself I think believe he's from Africa I did a deep dive, but this was a while ago. Let's go to this wiki. Born January 9, 16, 67, H. 57, South Africa. Wow.

It makes sense. I don't know why when I saw that, it just made sense. Because those riffs are just like, there's nothing like them. It's funny because sometimes people ask me, like, what's like a, what's a heavy non-metal record, I will go to Dave Matthew's band. Like that record every day, for some reason, it's kind of hits different. Like, most of those songs are with that guitar.

Even, even like the hit, I think it's a space between. Like you really hear like the baritone just fucking scream. It just I, that's an acoustic. It's space between. It has to be.

It has to be. Yep. Simple and effective. Man, that's dope. So, yeah, I mean, Dave Matthews. I mean, he's in a Hall of Fame. Well, well deserved. Ozzie, obviously, goat.

They're all goats. Fog, man. Congratulations to all of them. Share. Wow. I guess I'll close it off with, the, with, with, with this thought right here. I was thinking like where the Hall of Fame is going.

Because eventually it's going to become more, they're going to talk about corn at some point. Corn and limp biscuit. But when, I don't know. That won't be for a while. But when that happens, that's going to fucking open up the doors, man. Of who else? It's going to start my new metal.

Then Mike go to, I wonder if the Hall of Fame will go death metal. I wonder. this was I thought I have I don't think it's too far fetched because there's so many legendary bands out there

that I think once a band like corn gets in there I think that's really going to change shit I think that's really going to change they're what they're mid-50s so

how do you get nominated you have to be in a band for what fucking 50 years or something how do you artist must be nominated okay Artists must be at least 25 years past the release of the first record. Okay.

Okay, that's fun. Committee. Committee. Okay, so 25 years isn't that, you know, far fetch? It's cool. I thought I'll, I thought it'll be like 40 or something crazy. That seems more like, that 40 fucking, yeah, Korn has celebrated their 30th year. So they're, dude, once they get inducted, that's going to be a fucking moment, man.

That's going to be a really, a really big moment. Cool. I think we have one more and then we'll close it off. Orbiter's back. They just announced some dates. Washington, D.C., June 14th and 15th. The cool one, Long Beach. July 26th, 27th at the shoreline waterfront.

I never heard of that place in my life. But we're going to find out. Orlando, Florida, November 15th, and 16th at the camping. Capine World Stadium campus. Cool. Good for them. So it looks like it's two days. It's cool. Wow. Okay, that looks really nice. This is Long Beach? Have I been there? I don't... I gotta go to Long Beach. That looks sick. Well, that'd be cool. Well, shout out to Warptor being back. We did it in 2010. It was very... Very pleasant. We, um,

it was right when Fort Loco was like, they were taking off the fucking, they were taking off the, OG recipe off the shelves, literally. And there was, excuse me. And there were, there were,

uh, some bands had crates of them. And were selling cans off crates from their bus. We were one of the idiots buying those four locoes. So if you watch, if you watch these shows, we're literally maniacs. Because we were to take the four loco and then we were drinking a little bit of it. Then we'll put vodka in the four loco.

And head bang hard as fuck, no matter how hot it was. That's, that is crazy, dude. Yeah, we were just, now we were still on like rampage mode, just like, killer. Kill everybody. That year was sick, too. There was a, there was a Muir. Whitechapel. I think Parkway Drive, too.

There was like a heavy year at the stage. It was a special time. But shout out Warpator for being back. Pretty fucking, uh, pretty sick. Play us out. Yeah, we do a little playout. Play out, fade out.

Again, thank you. Thank you to Fender. Everyone I mean there's too many people in name. There is a hobby for a Friday literally staying after hours hours After a shift to make sure that this was done Rob Knowles Jackson Red Day from Jackson Mani from Fender Erica from Fender Michael it does a fresher Fender everyone at that that that worked on it I mean Thank you for this is really like it's this is me it's literally it's literally it's literally it's crazy I

I mean there's there's no words it's no words man and with the help of all you listening watching it's gonna take a while but I think we could make the dream happen

but uh what what what should we do if we just just do a riff or some we could uh if you're trying to go to bed actually know if you're trying to fucking if you're trying to start your day then we'll do that

and the next little fade out So just all you, Jay. Thank you for listening watching. I'll see you next week. Later.