Garza Podcast - 166 - INGESTED: New Members, Terminator & Touring

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

Garza sits down in-person with death metal/deathcore band INGESTED. Their new single "Altar of Flesh" is out now!https://ingested.co.ukSPONSORS:https://distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF!Sweetwater - https://imp.i114863.net/rnrmVBINGESTED is:Josh Davies - VocalsSean Hynes - GuitarLyn Jeffs - DrumsAndrew Virrueta - GuitarThomas O'Malley - BassCHAPTERS:00:00 - Hassle of Flying05:13 - New Song08:26 - Process of Recording Songs15:22 - Working w/ New Members19:31 - Garza & Andrew Virrueta Catching Up24:05 - Andrew joining Ingested26:56 - Miles Dimitri28:51 - Vision of the Band31:59 - Brainscan Film34:10 - Terminator39:35 - Horror Films41:12 - How Josh Get into Music45:50 - Oasis Ticket Prices49:52 - The UK & Venues54:41 - Three Little Pigs59:52 - Terrifier1:03:45 - Marriage1:05:43 - Lyn on Being Sober & Cycling1:14:50 - Happy Drunk1:18:25 - Almost Gave Up & Real Jobs1:24:15 - Aborted1:26:00 - “Inhaling” American Food1:30:32 - Josh Always Wanted to Tour

29. It's all down ill now, pal. Yeah. Yeah, but he's getting ahead of the game and actually, like, you know, assorting himself out like we did. I'm trying to get into 30 just jacked, dude. That's the goal. Yeah.

Yeah. I tried that. And Jack. Did you? Yeah. What happened? Nothing. Listen.

This happened. It didn't work. Right? Dude, any, uh, you got to get on it, man. Try, try not to be that that old guy to talk about gym and yoga, but you got to get on it. Yeah, man. Yeah. Sick, dude. It's like, I don't know. It's just one of those things that's like fun.

What are you to 30? September, man. September. Yeah, it's coming. Okay, it's coming. Okay. Sick. Well, and Jesse is here. Hi. Hello.

What up? Chilling, dude. Yeah, mom. Can you guys do a quick intro so people can attach the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, voices, the names? Yeah. Hey, um, AJ. Cool. All right.

So who's going first? I'm Sean I play guitar for ingested I'm Lynn I play drums I'm Andrew I also play guitar My name's Josh

And I do vocals with the band Getting Jack Dude oh is Jack It's getting jack George and Bulkin Cheers dudes Cheers Cheers cheers man so

Cheers To you guys Trigger water Smart Yeah maybe I was that flight It sucked or what Um

Do you know what It was all right Yeah I thought he was as well. Yeah. They're usually pretty shit, but we had conversations on the flight a little bit, not used to that.

A couple of films, it was good, yeah. 11 hours. Yeah. Conversation? Wait, you're not used to... No, we just sit there and fucking with our headphones on normally. Yeah.

We're all in a row together and it was good. Let's have combos, man. Okay. Yeah, it was good. I think once you've been to Australia, any flight is not bad. Hmm. It sucks when someone's next to you

and you can just feel that they want to talk. Oh, mate, yeah. But then you don't want to talk. I had a family, we had a flight years ago, I don't know what tour. Oh, it was summer slaughter. I know it goes over it. It was summer slaughter and we, um, our flight got fucked up, so we had to get on like a virgin flight to Florida and it was just full of families going Disney.

And they plunked us all like all over the flight, like, but we were getting hammered beforehand because back in the day that's what we all used to do, you know it. And they put me next, like, um, I think it was a four-seater and I was on the end. And it was like a wife, the dad and the kid. And I was just like, this is not good, man. And it ended up getting pretty leathered on that flight. And like, someone bought a bottle of whiskey, didn't they? So we were just drinking that through the aisles and sitting back down and stuff. And they were like, what are you doing?

I'm like, I know you're going Disney and everything, but I'm about to play some riffs in Florida. So sorry, I do apologize. A little slightly different end game there, you know? Oh, very different, yeah. Playing slam-ers are going to Disney. Disney World. Disney World. Okay, yeah.

Because whenever I hear Disney, I think about here because we have Disneyland. Is it Disneyland? Which one's better? I've never been to Disney World. I haven't either. No? That's the one that's most iconic, I guess, in it? Florida one.

Yeah, Florida one. Yeah, Florida one. Yeah, well, it says world, so. Yeah. It means the land world. What's Paris? Is that Land or World? Disneyland Paris.

That's the Landlowe. Yeah. I heard the Paris one sucks, though. I never been. Never been. Never been. No. We nearly went.

Yeah. last year but it was fucking well expensive and it was a pain in the ass to get there Paris is hard work though yeah lots to do Florida though the Star Wars land looks pretty sick yeah big big Star Wars head I want to try and get there this year you should with a wife man it took us a whole career to have a decent show there like we never had good shows there what in Florida in Florida no uh Paris oh right okay we had the past couple times have been pretty sick the first the first time we ever went in 2010 it was fucking amazing we've always under right to be honest I mean

That was the best time it went. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Although, I can't think of one that sticks out in France. That's been that good. Cannibal court was good. I remember it. Surpassing headliner.

That was pretty good. I don't remember that either. Okay. I don't remember any of the good times, man. I remember one time from 2010. That counts. You don't even remember the last time we hung out. No, I don't.

You don't? Nope. Yeah, there's a reason for that, though. What's the word? What's the, uh, English term. For us, we'll say tanked.

It was a leatherd. Leathered, yeah. Blathered. Leathered. Blot-oh, don't know. Yeah. You were leathered. Fucking monkeyed.

Monkeyed? Yeah, did that behave, though? Was it all right? Yeah, it was fine. All right, cool. Yeah, that's fine. So, man. No, I'm used to...

Did he behave? No, I'm very good at hanging out with the drunk people. All right, cool. Kind of... Have you met Dan Kenny? Of course. Yeah. So, I got that, I got that patient muscle.

Yeah, it's good, dude I'm patient as fuck I'll fucking... Last time I saw Danny You get more death metal Every time I see you I'm like all right Sweet

Let's go Heck yeah Well uh Well congrats the The new songs out Yeah Nice Yeah

Josh you are officially In the band Yeah How you Uh It's a pretty tough spot man How are you feeling Pretty chill

Now It was like It's weird Because I've been touring Tories With these guys Like three years Like setting

like shirts for them whatever so being with him all the time it just it just felt like second nature but then like kind of fulfilling the role and being the front man there was like that sort of learning curve and there's still more to do but it's been pretty chill the song was taken as expected but it feels like more people are now on board and listen to a banana quality of video and they make it a judgment and actually can hear it so I'm stoked with it I feel like everyone else is stoked with it yeah great cool yes keep doing your thing you know just dumb noises yeah don't even pay attention people get so upset with dumb noises are don't they but it's what they want this is not the right dumb noise

that i want the other dumb noise all right it's just dumb noises i want my noise to be dumber hey that's actually pretty hard to do it's to be dumber yeah it's true i want i want dumb risk it's hard to more caveman please sure well what's been the uh what's been the the hardest part for for you Josh probably like just the critics online I'm not I'm not used to being like in such a high stated ban of all my bands have always been small yeah so like being in something like way bigger than whatever I've have done before and like getting feedback from people and actually calling me shit I'm just like this is gonna take a lot it's character the building but yeah

it's uh it's uh it's all this fucking band is carot building yeah yeah it is christ 18 years accountable. But it's been fine. Learning the songs was easy. Like, it wasn't hard. I've done harder.

But, yeah, it's pretty chill. I've enjoyed it. I only done four shows so far, but it's my first tour as the singer. So, yeah.

It's like official, I'm in. This is what the band is. Yeah. You know, cool. I'm short. People have to deal with it. I'm sacking.

That's it. The fucking, the fucking pit bull over here. It's cool. So are you communicating with these guys you know like this is like this is what's on my mind yeah yeah like I speak more like my big brothers I've never had so um if I got a problem I always talk to him especially like with a writing the material I'll go to Sean but what do you

think of this and it'll give me feedback and nice it's been it's been cool I've never had that because I've been in projects where it's been here's here's something I'm doing and it just gets shut down but everyone seems very like open-minded and I'm I'm generally damn bad for that. Because that is high shit. It's awesome. Yeah. Oh, cool.

So people are open-minded. I'm very surprised to hear that come from. I don't know. Sean, you kind of seem like a hardheaded guy, but I could be just judging. He's worse than I'm right. Fucking out.

Silent killer. Is it a silent killer? It gives you that stab. I hate it very bad picture of me. So I had a question. Like, so, hey, Jake, go back to the photo prior. We guys jamming?

in the same room? Yeah, we did. Well, no, we did a live session as well. Okay. We were at the studio for two days. The first day we tracked guitars, vocals. Yeah. Second day we tracked drums

in the morning and then in that afternoon we also shot a live session. So we recorded, what, like maybe 10 songs? Yeah. I mean, I didn't rehearse for the, because straight after this we did Christmas shows. And I just thought we were going to rehearse and then I got there and we're like right we're doing a live

session so yeah I was like what great I've not played these songs in like fucking four months all right and that's what we did so I think it was 12 songs because that's what the set list oh yeah you're right it was well yeah it didn't all right a few of them did make the cut no no goopee yeah it didn't help that uh you forgot the antenna for the rack yeah oh bro obviously I took the entire rig because we're going to do live shows but I left the antenna at home oh you idiot for all the in is I know. So I just like, I pulled the cable up and was like, I hope this does something.

But it was just like, the entire time. The whole time. Yeah, it was sick. Sometimes when, when like you leave, I'm like, okay, where did I forget? It's always one little thing, but you need that one little thing. Yeah. Pretty fucking crucial. Like a high high stand.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I ain't got one of them either. No, yeah. So drums were done after something? Yeah. Yeah. Explain that to me. Well, when we started working with Nico, he had the idea of doing drums last.

So it was like, if we do guitars first, because that's kind of like the backbone of the song, and then the vocals second, and then the thing is with drums, I think you can always work the drums around vocals. Because we've always found in the past that if we ever did drums before, if there was ever something that clashed with vocals, like a drum part or drum fill, you can't change it. And you're like, shit, what, it's there now. Okay. Where when we start working with Nico Ben and Otto,

he was like, right, you know, if we do drums last, I think we can have a bit more freedom with how we structure the song, or structure the parts at least. And it's weird because even when we start working with Matt Lewis on this, on this song, he actually requested we did that as well. So we were like, oh, okay, we already do that. He's all right, wicked. Interesting.

Yeah. How is that for you as a drummer when you have everything, it's kind of going into your ear. But, yeah. Because you're not getting like the natural feel, but but you're playing. So how is that, how is that for? Well, I mean, I, I still, I still, I won't listen to the vocals in my, in my ears. I'll still just play to the guitars.

But I would have already mapped out beforehand what's going on with the vocals. So I'll already make changes of like, right, I'm going to change this part because, you know, there's a bit of clash there or whatever. Okay. So I still just listen to the guitars, really. Okay. And then when you do the playback, you're putting vocals in there? No. Okay, no

Interesting We do a lot of prep Yeah, okay We don't really We don't really Come up with things on the fly We do I want to know exactly

What I'm playing When I go to the studio And I If it, so the way we write Usually is it he'll write guitars Send it to me I'll program drums And then we'll kind of go back and forth

Until we're kind of like Happy with what we want And then we learn it And then when vocals come in Yeah If there's any changes we make We're like, Okay, maybe I'll make

Adjustments here or whatever but when we actually go to track the song it's exactly how the demo is pretty much wow there's very little changes yeah so you let the drummer program his own drums surprisingly that's not exactly a common thing I never used to do that but

we've been working together for fucking hell 20 years nearly so are you guys started in 2006 correct yeah and we've been in three bands together three yeah so like I would he knows he knows my staff style the writing anyway. So once he gets whatever piece of music it is, he can almost determine

what I want because he's got so used to the way I like things being done. Don't get me wrong. There'll be points of the music that I have specific ideas for, but I'd rather give it to him without telling him what to do because I don't want to influence that. Because he'll, he's a drummer. You'll think of things that I can't hear. So it might challenge my, you know, what I was expecting. It might be a bit. I was like, oh, well, I thought I wanted this here, but he's put that there. so fuck it that's even better so it's good because it's it challenges you to find out how married you are to an idea yeah yeah yeah you're like oh i've not thought of that and that's something years to get used to yeah yeah because i i used to get proper married to ideas i know it's

got to be this way but yeah it's usually if he wants me to change he's like no i want it this way it's it's a lot easier to play than what i programmed something like it's cool it's fine we'll just do that way yeah you got uh they uh call that demoitis yeah maybe where like if you listen to something too much that's a that's not the final product you get it attached to a certain thing for no reason mm-hmm just because you yeah listen that can be a problem yeah yeah yeah yeah it's tough i'm i'm even currently doing it now like having like a demo done okay just don't don't let don't listen to it unless you're working on it yeah but we've never worked with the producer ever yeah yeah so this would be different always self-produced really yeah yeah so mark's gonna

we're gonna go in with mark and i don't know what the fuck's gonna happen man yeah the next album is the I'm going to work with the producer. Why do you guys wait so long? What's up everybody? It helps the podcast if you listen to the ads and support the sponsors. They help get the lights on. It helped grow this thing so we can continue

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But, um, nah. Okay, so on the record, seven. I would say, yeah. Seven, okay. Yeah. Why do we wait so long? Budget. Okay.

We need a lot of money back in the day. We had to really work on shoestring budget, so we'd always like, we'd go to places that were decent enough for what we could do. But, you know, you're not in a position where, oh, we've got four weeks with this guy. He's going to help restructure everything. It's like, that was. an option obviously now you're getting down the line and um obviously get more established and things happen it just felt like the right time to do that and also like you know like you said seven albums in do something else you know what i mean because you can get stuck like

in a fucking circle and just do the same shit on over and over again so it's probably good for us to get challenged a little bit you know so i don't know we'll see who did uh the record came out last year who mixed it uh who uh who produced it us really wow Yeah. So yeah, that's kind of crazy because you kind of took on like a few new things at once, Josh. Oh yeah. Coming in and then, okay, this is a great time of bringing someone else. Yeah.

And him. Yeah, and Andrew as well. Yeah. Well, we'd be the same members for 18 years going on as far as it is. And I don't know. Sometimes you need to, need to refresh stuff. And this was the right time. Like it was all starting to go that way in terms of.

working with Mark and stuff obviously the member change thing was a bit you know wasn't expected but some things happened but I don't know it's it's certainly reinvigorated the camp I think we're all pretty excited and it's I don't injects a bit of life into the bomb yeah sometimes it's needed every now and then you know yeah you like a little a little change will uh yeah just just kind of like remind you you know do I actually like doing this ah maybe I do I don't know we'll say Yeah, I wonder, I was just thinking, like, right before you guys, I walked in here, I'm like, I wonder what's, uh, what's going to happen, uh, in their future. Because no one knows what's going to happen to your band. No, no. Even, even if they hear a song, like, uh, you know, Josh, you mentioned your, you know, like the, there's like a new thing of critics coming in. Yeah. And, uh, no one really knows how it's going to end. But, but, but people talk like this is you now and forever. Yeah. But you don't only. know. Absolutely, especially with someone who's been in the band for like 19, 20 years and someone

who's just been in the band for like four months. It's like, it's like, it's like, yeah, it's like a long thing. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, uh, it's tough. Yeah, I'm curious how you guys are going to handle it. I'm still trying to work with Eddie. It's a whole other way of, you know, how are you going to evolve? How are you going to, when you're so used to doing things a certain way. Yeah. And then you try to apply it the same way to a, it's another human. You probably have different ways of singing different. Your, your tone's different the way, the way you think is different.

And then having to undo 18, 19 years of, it's, you know, it's, you know, it is pretty strange, but I don't know. I mean, creatively, it's not that different because, especially when we dropped down to a three piece, as four members, it was all us three doing it. So it doesn't, it's not seemed that strange to me. Sure. You know, especially with the new single, it's mostly the same in terms of the

creative behind it. But obviously, we've all got my hand in it all. But I think that will, that'll be different when we get into the studio for the full length because we'll all be in there and all doing it together. I think it'll be way more collaborative. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Which is what we want.

Yeah. Am I going to put you in a word spot? Is, are you going to include Andrew? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Riffs. Baby. It's making me play better because these riffs can be hard. I've actually known Andrew for quite some time. Yeah, man. Yeah. We go back. Are you from Corona?

I've been there since 2000. Okay. So, yeah, I was born in 95, so most of my life. Wow. Yeah. First corn worker comes out, and so does Andrew. That's sick. That's sick.

Cool. So where are you from? Like wearing Corona? No, it's like when you were born working. Oh, I mean, my dad was in the military, so I grew up on a base in Irvine. Oh, it's nice. Yeah, and then after that, we lived in Tussin for like a year or two, and then Corona, I've been there since then. Yeah, man.

Sick. I love it. Yeah, it's a cool town, man. Yeah, it's, I don't know, there's just something special about it. There's magic to it to me. Maybe it's just because I've lived there for so long. But, you know, there's nowhere like it to me. Is this the same base?

Because we always see these hangers there. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what those hangars are? I think they're gone now, actually. I think they burnt down like four months ago. Really? Yeah. Oh, what?

This is very, like, recent. Dude, yeah, the base was called El Toro. Yeah, it was called El Toro. El Toro? Oh, wow. How did I not know that? Yeah. Is it the same?

El Toro that's in Independence Day? Have I seen that movie? Dude, I have, but it's been so long that I couldn't tell you. Because you know how they're on like a, they're on like the base, you know? I wonder if that's the same one. How do I not know that? It might be, dude. That's what's fascinating about a podcast.

You could learn something new about somewhere that you live. You don't even know, dude. Yeah, man. Yeah, no, man, it was a, I don't really remember much of it, but. Utah. Oh, Utah. Okay. Yeah.

there you go that's sick dude i've always wondered like drive jim and irvine like what are those two massive hangers yeah just like abandoned military base i guess i don't i don't think it's it's obviously it's not occupied anymore because uh one of those things burned down but that's so oh that's where now now when i i see the burnt down ones i mean well that's where andry was born in the base dude and now and now just slamming dude just right riffs didn't he just just riffing that's right dude you were in a band called a see of skies

yes dude funny because my guys just found out about it and they call it a sea of guys I mean everybody everybody called it that

when we were in band dude yeah we called it that oh my goodness yeah that was with my brother Joey and then our friend

Alex Zimmer and his brother Paul Zimmer and our friend Drew so that was I was probably 15, 15 or 16. Yeah. And yeah, dude, that was like, it was sick. That was like the first time I ever played live music was in that band. So that was like, it was really special for me, you know? And that was a, that was the last time that I played live with my brother was in that band. You know what I mean?

Yeah. He's, he's done shows with, um, with me like here and there, um, with my other band Vampire Squid, but we haven't played a show since like 2018, just like a small local band. Yeah, man. Formative stuff. You recorded a solo for our EP. Yeah, yeah. It was very fun.

Yeah, dude. You came over to my house and my mom made us pizza. Oh, yeah, the old pizza, man. Yeah, dude. Yeah, well, I got to give you a shout out, Andrew. You just never, you never stop playing. And I'll see you every once in my, oh, damn, is that? I saw you with Enthios.

I was like, is that Andrew? Holy shit. Cool. Yeah, man. That was really fun. I don't know, dude. I just,

I love touring. I love playing riffs. And, yeah, man, I'm here. I'm here for it. And now you're a CEO of full-time member. Yep.

Nice. Congrats, man. It's official. Grimmed him. It's cool to see. Yeah, I've been playing with these guys since summer of 2013.

23? Summer of 23. Is that the development? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I've just been doing all the tours with them since then. And I don't know.

We just get along hell of well. Real quick. And then we'll go back on to the story of your band. But how did you do that? Because I know people, I know people give up at some point. But you just kept playing. How did you really end up here? Dude.

I don't know. Yeah, I played a lot of guitar when I was a teenager and up until now, I just practiced a lot. And I made friends with people that were touring. And I guess really what it comes down to is like they vouched for me for like people that they knew that needed somebody to tour with them. And they're like, yo, my friend Andrews really good. And so I was just recommended.

I just ran with the opportunity, you know? Like, the first tour that I did was in the Faceless. My buddy Miles, he got asked to play in the Faceless. But he was in that band, Rings of Saturn at the time, and they had a tour at the same time that the Faceless had a tour. So he was like, yo, dude, would you be down to do this? And I was like, yeah, come on, dude, you know? Sounds familiar.

Just sound familiar. Dude, honestly, yeah, it's like every gig is from, every, every gig I've gotten has been through Miles. He's just been like, Miles played with us in 22 when we did the long short tour. Did he? Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. I don't know that.

And then we asked him to do the, the one he did, the parliament. Yeah. Yeah. And he pulled out, like, a week or two before. Yeah. Yep. He was fucking fuming. That was stupid.

But what he did, though, he's clever. He'd obviously told Drew before. beforehand said right learn this shit so as he told us he sent all the videos of him knowing it was like I was like okay this is fine and he was livid I was livid I wrote him a message and it was obviously like

because we were in Europe at the time and he was obviously in bed I wrote a message and then I deleted it oh smart he was going to talk with Metallica and I was like the gig he took was ice nine kills oh yeah yeah for the Metallica gig

we had a lot of stress with leading into that tour I was like that time I was like, because what were we on? Calibur Corps? Yeah, it was Calimbal Corps. And there was just things going wrong with the, because we had the headlines all coming up and knew what happens, man. And it was just the one thing after another,

and that I was just like, I'm, I'm done with this. Big time. There's so many moving parts already. I was like, Lynn, it's fine. It's Metallica. He can do this. Let him do it. It's fine.

Obviously, we got the videos. I said to, because were you aware of Drew? No. No. See, I was aware of Drew. We'd already met, aren't we beforehand? Yeah. So I've seen these videos and we follow each other on Instagram.

I was like, Lynn, it's fine. This is fine. It's going to work. Always talking off the ledge. Dude, Lynn, you did something that a lot of people should do. You had the discipline to write the message and not press send. I shouldn't have wrote it in the first place. That would be the right discipline to move to that.

How do you do that? I mean, I always think like, okay, like if you write a message, that's kind of, go to bed, wake up, reread, and then see, okay. and then see if someone to press send usually to be fair if i ever have confrontation of other messages i don't reply immediately i do what you said yeah i'll sleep on it i'll come back and then i'll be more yeah this was the morning but i was yeah was livid yeah wow even livid and you didn't send it i know that's something to be proud of man i love miles yeah no no no yeah it happens you sometimes you just don't work out

Miles was going to fill in for for us for like a few shows But sometimes things is you know Yeah It's amazing what he's done though though It's fucking fucking like that's like one of the other times I met him before he did stuff for us He was like I'm filling in for counterfecks and that's fucking sick mate Well done And I'll get him

Twat He kills it man Miles is one of those dudes man And he just He always puts like 110% into everything he does even if it's like something mundane um like he just he just puts all of his energy into it and just obsesses over it

you know and that like you can definitely tell that personality trait in him when like in his guitar playing he's not real guitar player yeah it's crazy yeah he's he's really good man um and like yeah like even like recently like one of the things he's like really getting into is like photography and like videography and stuff and he's just like always looking up things and always telling me things he's learning. Fuck, yeah.

He's a cool dude, man. Good person to be around. It suits him. Iceland kills. A great guy. Yeah, he really suits him. A great guy. So you guys, Lynn and Sean, you guys are like the founders.

Mm-hmm. You know, how did you guys meet? Well, Ingested, before Ingested was another band. So the original members that were in, it was called a major suffering. So it was like, it was me. Jay, Sam, Brad, so it was like the original guys but we had a different drum at the time and he just couldn't

we were all moving towards that kind of death metal sound and you know, blast beats, fastball kick and the guy just wasn't there but in the Manchester scene there was another band coming up called Crepitation which we knew he was in and they started practicing at the same place well we did

and I know CREP at the time we're having problems with many members I think they were a complete shift up of line a complete lineup shift and we were going in to record what would have become the Northwest Lanfest as Aege's offering and I got a call off one of the guys in Crepe and said right you if if you join us you can have Lynn all right sounds good so I end up joining I don't join in Creptation on a guitar and he joined us on drums and we did that for a bit but the first time we met was a Deez dee Fleck show yeah it was oh you guys are

fucking metal dude it wasn't it everything's making sense right now. Is that monstrosity? Monstrosity. He's a flesh. Impaled. Yeah, it sounds about right. And impaled?

Fuck, yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah, we hit it off pretty quickly, and we should be fair. Both bald at the time. Might wasn't my choice, as you could see. It was about then. Not my choice.

No, it was on choice. But yeah, as soon as he got in the band, we started rehearsing, practicing, and obviously the sound changed, and we went right, we just went, fuck all this material off. Let's start a new band,

and then, In Jess, it was that from then on, 2006 so there you go what was the vision first like we got like I want like just more

simple song well actually hold on we saw you playing in a different band yeah and I forgot about that

age of suffering played on same gig as his other band decrepit what was decapity yeah

and he was fucking doing some mad like switch over shit I'm like what's this guy man we need this guy so yeah

stole him classic classic stealing yeah saw that blast beating hand and it was yeah it was a lock yeah I don't have many strings above but that's one half the pushbow will work yeah I mean the vision for the band I mean I

mean we were pretty elitist about then yeah yeah and we were part of like a brutal death metal scene that was pretty niche mm-hmm heavily influenced by devourment these of flesh discord yeah you know the whole unique leader kind of basically basically all the shit Dan Kenny talks about yeah all that shit all the stuff you, he cranks at 2 a.m. Yeah, yeah. Got it. Oh, fuck, check that out.

Wow. Yeah, there we am. Oh, yeah, there's far left and I'm far right. Wow. There you go. But how do you go? Roderickon shirt and the environment shirt. Gets in.

But how do you go from a... There's no email phase there, man. But how do you go from brain scan to death metal? Um... So, because I found, I found out about this band called brain scan. Right. Was that, was that like a band that you were jamming when you were? were like a kid or what brain scan what's brain scan brain scan brain scan yeah i only know brain scan

is a film yeah but i i saw a CD though I saw I saw a picture of from my for my yeah brain scan oh no yeah you're right brains that's fucking that's a prop from the film is it yeah yeah so brain scan's like a fucking it's an interactive rom game from the film brain scan and I just got it because it's fucking from the film because I'm a nerd yeah there you go there he's old in it there fucking brain scan well you laughing it's great film Edward furlongs in it and everything sick hair really

994 let's go oh man I wish I told Jay did you get the picture I saw a picture okay it's fine oh you should watch this one day you're pretty sure you are uh oh you're not gonna find a local local band on

or maybe it was it's definitely that it's definitely brain scan I got it from guy some guy in Florida oh you mean didn't you ship that to my house yeah it did okay I remember it wasn't it red not blue Yeah, that's the fucking soundtrack from the film

So, okay, it's a soundtrack No, that's it there So that's, that's it, I think That's what it is in the film That's, that's what I saw Yeah, there's nothing on it It's just from the film Oh, okay, but it's a prop

But there's also a soundtrack, correct? For the film Okay, for the film I thought it was a fucking band, like an idiot Okay It is confusing to be better I am so surprised You've not heard of the film brain scan from 94

I mean, come on. There's like four people on this earth that watch that film. No. Yeah. So it's just more like a cult following movie or? Yeah. Right up your alley. Yeah, it's dog shit, but it's great dog shit, you know what I mean?

Jeez, 1994. I weren't even born. No, you weren't. Is that the kid from, from Tremario 2? Yeah, Edward Filmm. Oh. Okay. I don't know this movie at all.

Yeah, sick. What's up of you and your obsession with a Terminator? It's the best film on Earth, isn't it? Terminator 2 is the best film ever made. I don't care who says it isn't because it is. You even made a tier list of every Terminator. Yeah. Yeah, of course it did.

So, T1 and T2 are at top. Okay. That's it. That's it. Do you what I mean? Look, I will watch all of them. And I can openly admit that they're not great. But T1 and...

T1 and T2. They should have finished the T2. Yeah, they should have done. But I'll take anything to terminate at this point. Greedy, don't they? They were greedy. Okay, they're fucking fell, man. Okay, so Terminator 2 is the best one.

Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. It is, though, in it? It just fucking is. It is. It's so much that you even, like, you... Do you get props from the movie?

Yeah. What a freak, man. I know. Mate, he's fucking mental. He's terrible, isn't it? It's got some crazy shit. It's a cool collection. It seems so insane.

I still go over and I'm like, oh shit, it's mental. Yeah. I join the band today. I'm going to quit tomorrow. This is crazy. Yeah, dude. It seems like such a normal hobby to have in my household because we're all fucking insane.

But then, like, when we're talking like we are now, and these are all looking at me like I'm fucking mental. And you're like, maybe it's fucking weird. It is weird. Is it? All right. Everyone's got something, I suppose. Yeah, man.

Everyone's got something. That's true. It's something. It is a good. great movie, you know, but I don't know if my opinion is biased because I saw, I saw the Terminator 2 first and then I went backwards. Yeah, same. Yeah.

So I was like, oh, this is cool. I mean, he can be biased, but objectively it's a better film. As amazing as T1 is, it's still objectively a better film. But it depends what you want. The first one's like, so horror-like, people, nowadays, people started saying it's quite, it's a bit of a slasher, a horror slasher, which totally is, it fucking is. Because he robbed some of the ideas from John Carpet from Halloween and stuff. So that's why it's got that kind of like non-stop killer.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you went deep. Okay. Yeah. It's got influence from that. So it's a fucking slasher, but look at this shit. So the director was influenced by some horror movies. From Halloween, yeah.

He said that before. I explained. Oh, okay. Yeah. You're reading, watching the interviews of the, okay. Sick. Yeah. I go deep.

So if I've got nothing to do, like, if I'm just pissing around the house and stuff, I'll just put documentaries on YouTube on the iPad and just, I'll listen to that all day. Even if I'm not listening to it, it's on there in the background. So as a Terminator fan, what's the beef with Rise of the Dove machines, which is the third one, correct? Yeah. Well, yeah, it's annoying that. Listen, right, when I first saw T3, when I first saw T3, I fucking couldn't stand it. Like, I was so angry.

Because it's just the falling quality was so. drastic that it fucking offended me. But as it's got down the line, you've got shit like fucking Genesis and Dark Fate, salvation's good, like, don't kill on it and says, that one's good. But Genesis and Dark Fate, now I compare that back to that,

I'm like, I actually like T3 now. I've warmed up to it again. I'm like, this will work. Do you know what I mean? Because the last two have been pretty bad. Even though I like them and I watch them, I can objectively say that they're a bit naff. Do you know what I mean?

But, yeah. even the one with Christian I like that one Salvation's good I'll take salvation So it's good Yeah yeah I like that one

It's a bit You know They could have done the future war But they decided not to I'm like alright fine Because he said it a few years earlier Than what the future war Was supposed to be

Where it's all kind of set But I like it Yeah it's cool Yeah man It's a little bit more like Realistic Right

You didn't like that I just the future like all the shit you see and like all the flashbacks you see well technically flash forwards like you see in T1 and T2 where it's like got this blue haze purple haze it's all lasers and shit and like it looks proper grim yeah they should have just done that with salvation and it was a bit in slam don't care even though I still like it they should have done that but you know whatever can't win can you who directed this one not uh not James Cameron that's the big

fucking problem isn't it I don't know I asked you don't know who did this one good question who the fuck I don't know who directly directed the third one either I generally don't care either so I mean wait it just sucked and I just let it be right see this is part of the problem look look what he's done previously fucking Charlie's angels and shit so it's like oh explains a lot do you know what I wonder why I wonder why they picked them you know fuck knows who knows fucked up dude but at least to me and too so oh my god like it's cry every time I watch it's so beautiful I love it

I showed it my 10-year-old last year. And she didn't cry at the fucking larvae scene. And I was like, how? Yeah. How? You showed it to me last year, too. I had never seen it. I had never seen it.

Yeah, it's fucking sick, dude. Yeah, man. It's super good. Yeah, man. It's awesome. We watched it on that tour. And we watched Alien and aliens. We just did movie nights.

It was so sick. Yeah. I watched it twice on that tour. Oh, that's right. Because when you left, Tom came and I went, Tom, you need to watch this film. You watched, like, what, like total recall, too, right? Or was it? Robocop.

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four channels and then VHS. So don't just fucking watch films all day. That's what I did in the 90s. You show me

the blob on that tour. They did you show me the blog? You showed me the blob? You show me the blob? The blob. And I was like, This is pretty fucking... It was incredible.

Top-notch horror, man. Do you know what I? My parents talk about that movie. You should see it. The blob. It's fucking... I forgot about it. Yeah, so... No, 9988.

Don't do this one. Yeah, this is the one. Okay, so the remake is better than the first one? Fucking tenfold. The special effects in this film are fucking nuts. You've even got props of this in your house, I think. Oh, my, he's cut in half, dude. Oh, fuck!

Hey, keep watching this fucking... So good. I've never seen this. Yeah, it's wicked. I thought... I thought it was just the first one. Oh, the blob, dude! Fucking fucking everybody up.

Oh my. So sick. Everyone's getting fucked up right now, dude. That's wild. Check this. So sick. The goal is so hard. That's fucking sick. See?

And Jess is making more and more sense to me as to Conversations evolving. Definitely on horror films. Evolving. Yeah, it just goes hand in hand. That's right. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

Hey Josh, just to get your story out there, how did you get into the music and then end up? How did get in the music scene? So I've only been doing like vocals like 10 years, playing in bands for eight or nine years. Just side out. Just doing like the trial era of things. Like being with people who are going, yeah, man, we're going to start something. just not happening and i started um my first band when i was uh 18 it was called abandonment which was like some typical hardcore band from birmingham and banningment fuck yeah it's pretty hard

but i literally because body snatcher had an epie called abandonment i was like that really yeah oh that's cool i told me doing it like years later and it was like no way and then that happened and then i left abandament to join monasteries from the uk and while i was in monasteries i joined sentence and then things weren't really working out with my bounce and then the back end of 2021 in September I believe ingested the the first UK tour after COVID was yeah ingested barley snatchetra, cranes and barren and fear that was 22 the first one no we saw you on 22 is it yeah yeah yeah because the 21 was played from within ah yeah yeah yeah yeah's when I first met these guys but I play with these guys in 2018 on the level above human

the first day was Birmingham and my band Monasteries was yeah was monosures was like the second on so yeah it's kind of it's kind of cool like playing with these and then just progressing along yeah I showed like a Twitter post like from like when I was like a kid in college I had like we got it's funny because we got the shirt on this toy it was just like a big monster with his like dick out inside this person on the back he said skinned and fucked and had ingested down the sleeves and I just sat like that in college and I always got weird looks. Yeah, no shit.

I wonder why. Yeah. But yeah, that's how I pretty much came into it. But it's funny because growing up, my dad, tried to give him some black Sabbath, Iron Maid, and all this. Yeah.

I hate it. I hate it. You've just offended. No respect, dude. I just defended a lot of people. The entire metal thing. I did, and they probably would hate me even more. But that's how it was.

And then my mom tried to get me to pop. And then I couldn't understand it and I was like pretty much like music list I wasn't really like into it. Yeah. And then I went over my dad's, um, best friend's house and his son just like, who did he say? I was like, cool. He put on, um, unanswered and that's no. Yeah.

Oh, wow. That's crazy. Yeah, like, uh, suicide is like my bread, but it's pretty much the whole reason why I pretty much do it. Oh, wow. That's, yeah. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's pretty wild. You feel old.

There you go, dude. Yeah, do you feel old, man? I mean, I'm listening to this conversation I feel fucking old. I'll tell you that. Hey, you're not too far from me, man. You're fucking 38. Yeah, I know.

I'm 39. I know. When are you 40? Turn 39 in December, so in another 10 months. And I'll be the big, uh, and I'm ready, dude. Are you ready? I'm ready for that wisdom. Nah, I turned 39 in October, so I've got,

a bit of time yet. Not much. Don't do that. I'm the close to 30. I mean, yeah. Yeah. No, that's good. You have, you know, you Josh and you, Andrew,

you're going to have, like, you know, like people in the 20s, so you got maybe like a fresher perspective on things, you know. It's cool. So are you from Birmingham? Yes. Okay, cool. Not Manchester.

No. It's funny because, like, like, some of my bands that I've been in are from Manchester. So I have spent a lot of time there. Like, Monashers was, originated like there. So it's kind of funny going back to Manchester do some more like music stuff.

How far are those two cities far of... 90 miles. Yeah. Two out of train. Yeah, it's like a... That's not bad. An hour and a half. It's pretty easy.

Yeah. It's not bad at all. That's pretty easy. I enjoy it. I do like Manchester City as well. Good food. All right people. Oh, shit.

Holy shit. Just realize I'm the only man man left in the band now. Yeah. Fucking out. Dang. All right. Oh, no.

Tommy's. Tom is. He doesn't sound it though, does he? Nah. Nice little area. Bubble boy. So you're not going to the Black Sabbath show? I take it.

No. Yeah, not for 600 quid. Fuck that. 600. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know the same issues we have with Oasis? That's been happening with...

Oh, really? Oh, mate. Fucking. Yeah. I was going to ask you guys a very cliche question on you guys. What do you guys think about Oasis? Yeah. I like Oasis.

Yeah. Sick. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So I'm back in the 90s. I like a lot of British music from that era, to be honest. Yeah, I do. The waist is blur.

Yeah. Even like to his phase a little earlier. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, I'm fucking hell. We were just talking about it. I wonder what to happen to the other guitar player and a drummer. Because these are just higher guns.

Yeah, I thought they'd get fucking bonehead in. They've had a cycle of drummers, though, wouldn't they? Yeah, yeah. I did expect Bonnet to come in because I know he's still friendly with them both. Yeah. Boney would be sick, dude. He could even tell from the picture of those two stalled together, they've not had much conversation, right?

Do you what I mean? I don't see him having a conversation. Look at it, right? It's like just getting the phone, right? We're doing these gigs, yeah? It looks like they've been Photoshop together. Oh, my God. Why do you think they came back?

Money. It is. It is money. Of course it is. It is. It is money. Not that they need it, but, you know, when there's that much on offer?

And that's fucking fair enough. Yeah, of course it is. Fair, fair enough. One of the biggest bands ever. It's like fucking, you know. Why not? And it also, I mean, if people want it too, man, I mean, why?

Yeah, I mean, I mean, we tried to get tickets, but fucking impossible. Yeah, it was hard. 600 quid. All day, I spent on there. Oh, I mean, no, 600. Those are the tickets that I saw that were for Black Sabbath. When we tried to get tickets for Oasis.

Was it 200 each? Yeah. Similar. Maybe that didn't even fucking pop up. It was just non-existent. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Mm.

Yeah. Yeah, no shit. It's sold out. Fucking out. Pasadena's sold out here. Wow. Did the US? Did the US sell out instantly as well?

It all of it is. It all just went. Fuck. That's insane. I mean, it's always... It's unfathable. Well, if they can keep it together for another year, like the pair of them,

and actually get in the room and do it, they're fucking laughing, aren't they? They're like, fuck everybody, dude. Yeah, because people were complaining of... I think it was a real-time, evalated ticket price. Yeah. That's right.

Yeah, it's so ridiculous. So people were, obviously it sucks. Obviously, like, people are going to be pissed. However, my argument is, but when the demand is there, what are you supposed to do? Yeah. People want to pay that money. They're going to pay that money. They're taking advantage of the fucking fans now, aren't they?

Well, it's not there, but it's a company that they were in. It is a fucking joke. You know, companies that are ticket matter. They've got a monopoly on the entire industry. It's like, who else are you going to use? I wonder. Yeah. What's the right thing to do?

Do you play a stadium and fucking make tickets super cheap? Or do you play what your worth, I guess? Once the first role of gigs went out, and obviously that shit was happening. I know when they put, announced extra stuff, they said, right, this isn't going to happen again. We're going to have control it. So I don't know how well that went for everyone trying to get tickets. They added shows, didn't they? Yeah, yeah.

And then they sold out again. Yeah, of course. Of course. It's always, dude. Yeah, I would love this theme. I'm not, I'm not going to sit on my phone for how long and try to get tickets. Yeah, I see, they've sorted you guys out. Fucking not us, though.

Oh, my goodness, dude. The ditch that for the American tour, the dynamic pricing stuff. Oh, they did. Dynamic pricing, yeah, that's the... I mean, what do you do? Yeah. The fucking demand is there. It's like, it's...

Fuck, what do you do? You're going to buy it, aren't you? Speaking of the day. That's right. People bought it. Yeah, of course it is. People are complaining about also buying it You can't complain

Obviously I had a beer So I'm horned up right now My man Kicking off Dude you you can't complain And buy it at the same time Yeah We did

We did It's just fucking bullshit But we're paying it a lot of it Yeah Yeah Why would they accept the car Yeah Manchester is a pretty

Do you guys grew up in a there or he didn't only he did yeah just me I grew up in Wales originally Wales nice yeah how was that for you eh quiet I mean I was from like a little town

in the valleys in the middle of Wales nice and like it was always like in my head I was like I need to go to a city so I just spent my entire youth kind of like planning ahead of me like just need to get out just need to get out good out and Manchester was the first seat I moved to

in 2006 summer know. Or right in maybe a little earlier actually 2005 I remember

so right when the yeah it would have been 2005 yeah yeah yeah

and we kind of started I was only there for like six months and we started the band there then I moved to Birmingham

for a year then Oxford and I worked at candlelight plastic head for a year oh well okay

I met a lot of people there nice and that's how I joined down the stations well okay at the time

because they were managed by one of the label managers there and they lost their drummer no he was on tour

and he didn't have a visa for something. I think, no, I think they beat. Or passport. No, we didn't have a passport. That was, that was Ross. No, no, no, it was, I can't be, I can't do the tour. Oh, really?

But you could do the UK leg. Oh, no. So I only did the European leg. I had to learn it in like a couple weeks. And then by the time he came back, they were like, no, we want limba. So they fired him, I came back and then you joined by that time. Well, Ross wasn't doing that. He's South African.

Oh, was the same fucking thing? Yeah, yeah. Both the drummer and bassist couldn't. do that full tour so we got roped in and then when he found out that Ross couldn't do it he basically said I'm doing it yeah could you come down out of fucking

Norwich was like yeah yeah all right cool got on a train and learned it on the train yeah yeah man sick tight sick it's tight what was the first tour the case you're doing yeah and then my second tour was with you oh I'm not Somerslaught

uh do you case you remember that I forgot about that wow summer it was you guys Was the berserker on it? As Blood runs black. Yeah. Berserker on it.

Abigail Williams. Fucking hell, yeah. You have a good memory, man. It's cool. Yeah, I forgot they took Summer Slaughter out in, uh, yeah. UK. Was it called Winter Slaughter in the UK? No.

No. Was it? It was you in summer? Oh, fucking hell, there it is. Portover Cyrus on it as well. Oh, yeah, Borum of Saras over there. Oh, yeah, I don't teach him of autopsy. That's where I saw him.

Oh, okay, it's making sense. There's like a venue on here. That's like 10 minutes from my house. Oh, show me the venues. Wolverhampton. Barfly, is that even there? That's gone. Wolverine Hall, that's it.

No one's my favorite show. That was your favorite show? Yeah. They've renovated that venue and it's like 4,000 there. The Wolverine Hall? Yeah. Really? We would love going there.

Yeah, because it's a nice venue. Because you know it's like a nice venue, like the stage is nice. So you live pretty pretty close to there. Yeah, that's like pretty much like 10 minutes from my house. but no one knows where Wolverhampton is. So, like, I just pretty much just say Birmingham. It's easy, honestly. Because there's some of me, like, scattered villages and stuff.

But, yeah. So, yeah. But I never got to go to this. Yeah, that's a cool. So they made it more... That's a civic all, isn't it? So they made it more nice? So they...

I think so, yeah. It's been to be like 4,000 there. It's got, like, two-tier balconies. Iceland kills actually played there. Oh, crap. Is that recently? yeah so long though yeah yeah sold out that place looks super cool yeah yeah it's nice venue like slam dunk festival used to be like

around this part of wolverhampton as well it was it was pretty sick Wolverhampton cool i'm so used to the uh academy yeah yeah yeah it's uh is that a is that a college in manchester yeah yeah yeah yeah there's there's like four venues there's four venues yeah yeah yeah i've always loved walking around the churches there. Yeah, it's across the road, right? Yeah, that road right there is always really fucking cool

to see those churches. It's tall and fucking is... Yeah, this is like the architecture or just like a... Looks like it's... I don't even know what year it is. Who knows? Not now.

Fucking... No idea. It's the UK in general. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool that they kind of keep it up there, you know? Yeah.

Cool then that's not fucking tearing it down. The protection. Yeah. Churches mostly. They listed buildings. Yeah, perceptive. They can't do anything. Good. They should do that more around here.

And that's gonna say, yeah. Let's fucking tear down. Start making houses out of brick and you might fucking... Brick and moller. Dude, they're talking about making houses around here out of brick because of the fires. Yeah. Well, yeah. That makes sense. What's that, uh, what's that fucking, uh, story? story, Jay, you might need, you might need to help me.

Uh, uh, the, uh, the three little pigs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What, what are the ones made out of straw? Straw, okay. Isn't brick at the end without bricks? It's not how many mate. Brick, brick. Brick, see, brick. Do you know what I mean? Okay, next. Straw, sticks and then bricks. Got that lad there's getting a, he's getting a pint after that as well. Do you know what I mean? Not four by those.

in a pint and listening to what ingested for sure that's fucking sick god brick dude briggs awesome man that's cool how was the um how would you compare um writing the record to writing this one song that that uh just came out um because because that i mean the approach was not massively different but um I don't know, yeah, we had to get some out. I'd already had some ideas for the riffs and stuff, and me and we're already talking that the next material would have been leaning towards

this kind of heavier style again, because it's something like we like playing live and it's something we're like listening to because like the last US tour we did, the latest single that came out was a path once lost, which has got me singing on it. It's quite a long, like, melodic kind of song. And we did it one, we did it in Chicago.

And we were just, like, Cleveland. Oh shit, it was Cleveland. And fucking hell, that was a rough day. I thought. Played that song and then we played something like fucking impending dominance and everyone was like,

ah, this is right. I meant, yeah, felt like a sack of shit like, do you know what I mean? So I remember like, I was one of the last ones to go out backstage.

And I could see the three of them just looking at each other. I went, I was shit that one and they went, yeah. Never again. So we dropped it instantly and replaced it with another song. So we're already figuring out that shit's, you know,

we want to. to play heavy music because as soon as we played Pathruns lost and then did the next couple of tunes which were the heavy side of stuff that we do live this is what we do this is the fucking yeah there's something about it there's a feeling you get on stage for sure yeah that's something like I felt

immediately when I first started like the first tour I did with you guys yeah like there's something about playing the songs live and feeling them live versus like listening to them on a record it's like very it's very different translates differently isn't it yeah there's something like it's like an animalistic kind of thing about it you know

Super sick. I can agree with that 100%. Yeah. I feel savage on one stage. I got my big boy pants on. I'm like, so yeah, the tune, obviously we knew

new members of coming in a new vocalist. It had to be heavy. So that was kind of what we did. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, because it's always kind of like a weird thing. You know, like, what do you do with like,

how do you write with a new singer? Are we doing the same thing? Are we going to, you know, it's always a... You kind of just like left it to me. He's like figure out. He's got such a... range as well where you know we could utilize a lot of his range on certain parts and stuff so that was

quite interesting so you know it's kind of like going into it i wanted to dial back on the range i wanted to do more of my heavy side where monitors it was very versatile bit apart here then everywhere where it was like this song i kind of wanted to like just be heaviest as i can be at the moment where progressing forward in future i want to go even heavier than how far that extent can be but it's like with this i just wanted to like go bull to the wall. That's why the open of the song it's just like a big,

it's just like a lower mid-range just like attacking it. And I'm like, I wanted to throw it back as well so I threw like pig squirrels and stuff because I don't feel like that many bands do it anymore. Some do.

Yeah. And would you say there's a revival on him at the moment? I guess so. There's that whole fucking like Myspace Death Corps thing coming in and again. Yeah, like Girl of Glass

and stuff like that. But it's like, yeah, with this, I just wanted to go brutal especially like directing the video. I wanted to go. over the top and I kind of went a little bit too over the top. Yeah, yeah.

We had to edit the fuck out of the video. Melma reined him in a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. So like, I've done two of the videos. I did a path once last with Loki films and then this was the one that I did and basically was like, well, I want to go like pretty much

like old school like something that compliments like surpassing the barriers of human suffering to the point I did and the label was just like, nah, but like Well, we already cut a few scenes out. And then I was like, I'm not sure about this, but I'll send it to Metal Blade anyway.

And then they came back and they were like, nope. And I was like, fuck, I know, you should see the first. If they saw the first one, get their hands around my little front, we'd be like, you need to behave. Like, the original one has... No, no.

No, let's not. No, let's not. They rained it in for a reason. Yeah, yeah. But it's like, this, you can... You can still tell what's going on. It's pretty insane. Yeah.

There was a well-good shot that way to get rid of it. of where you can just see the hammer going in his head. Yeah. And it's just fucking... Well, this is it. It's like, shock factor is it for me. And I feel like it is for a lot of people, especially how, like, Terrifier is so in right now.

And I feel like... Is it? Is it? Yeah, no, it is. I feel like it is. Terrifier 3 was, like, the most successful independent film of all time. Yeah. At the box office.

Okay. Because he didn't go down the route of getting a major studio. He just did it himself, and it fucking killed. Really? It came out of the same week. it beat something the same week that was massive and it... Oh, Joker.

Outbeat Joker. Really? Yeah, yeah, in box office. It fucking destroyed it. Oh, this just happened. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay.

Dang. The film's insane. It goes over the top. And it's like... Unrated movie. There you go. Highest grossing, unrated movie ever.

Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Opening weekend, 18.9 million. Look at it was a fucking $2 million movie as though. The budget is two million. That's nothing for a movie. Fuck all.

Wow. And now it's grossed 89.9 million worldwide. The next one's gonna have some nice budget in it. Fucking out. Can't wait to say that. Someone got fucking. Someone is fucking right now.

Damien. Yeah, Damien, he's fucking going to get steak dinners. That's going. He's laughing. He's laughing. Yeah. So this was that. I always wondered like, if you have,

have a, if you have like these really high budget movies and they're in a movie theater, how do the movies that have lower budget that are independent get in the same theaters? I think the reason why you can't get those lower films in there because you've got to spend certain amount money to get him in. So it's kind of difficult for him, which I'm surprised. Well, I'm not surprised that he's got, he got this in because two did pretty well. And obviously, he thought obviously the risk is worth putting in the cinemas and obviously he was right. so is it a case where if you if you had like the money to do it like you get your fucking movie in there is that is that i think that's how it works well obviously i don't know

his circumstance because he wasn't going through a major studio or didn't have those same channels i'm not sure how it works when you're independent that way really not i mean dude this has been brewing for a long time anytime you could go independent man and it it hits it hits it it fucking hits man wow i didn't know that so so tiripyre came back and he struck when when the iron iron's hot yeah yeah you got it out quick time as well because we went and watched the second one on a u.s saw yeah we but we saw that was that was that so we got that within two years then yeah it was pretty turrets like quickly yeah but like incredible film you should definitely like check two and

three have you seen any of them no wow strap in it's pretty blue i haven't seen any of them either savage as don't don't be too high for it it goes insane So you're saying get high right before it I saw the second one when I was pretty high And I couldn't handle it Wow Where did we go? It was in Boisey weren't we We were in Boise we were in Boise

We saw Machine Ed and then we went to Yeah, went to watch that film Yeah Okay, I mean, it looks scary I mean if you're just listening It's a clown And if you don't like clown Yeah then you're fucked

It's over for you bro Yeah if you're like clowns How do you watch it? movies with clowns I guess you don't do I guess I try to show like my 10-year-old killer clowns from out of space which is like a fucking second entry-level horror film for kids and she just refuses and like come on man but yeah some people just can't get into clowns man you be you've been married for about two years right yeah nice yeah well you guys been together for I mean a long time yeah

I've known I've known Kelly my wife since 1998 wow so it's like 26 years now Yeah. Holy crap. Yeah, we were high school sweet arts for like half a decade. Then we broke up for 10 years, go back together. And now we're married with a ton of kids. A ton of kids. That's sick.

So it works out. That's an interesting story, man. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. Because it's like, it's kind of weird. Like when you're talking about, you know, we've got such a history together that when Ellie our daughter's talking about things, we've got a reference point from so far back where it's like, it's kind of weird. night and you think about it but yeah it's cool.

Right on man. Happy days. Yeah, and Lynn, you are married in Spain, correct? That just happened. Yeah, it was November last year. Nice. Yeah. She's very lucky.

Hey, cool. If you've seen her, you know I'm very lucky. Definitely punching him on my way. Boy, he's punching. Yeah, cool. I tricked her. How did you, uh... Yeah, I was looking at the timeline

and you being married and it was, so that's obviously like a, destination wedding. I was like, how did they kind of time like the single and record it and then put it out? I live in Spain. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So we live in Miyorka. She's from New Yorker originally.

Nice. We met in London. About 10 years ago. Okay. Got together and then we were Spain. Gave her promotion. Yeah. We worked together. Yeah, yeah. A little bit of nepotism. Nice.

But, yeah. Yeah, so I've lived over there for about five or six years. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Nice. It's got a beautiful out there. It's like, it's really, really similar to California. It could have been Swansea, all, mate.

It could have been Swansea. I mean, it was Swansea for a little while. Um, it's really similar to California, like weather-wise, you know, terrain. It's pretty much exactly the same. Sick. Yeah. Are you, uh, what made you get into, uh, to write, uh, to bicycling? Well.

Yes. Yes. that so I kind of got to a point where these guys have never met me in in my previous life let's say but yeah I kind of realized that after a while that I had a problem with drink okay in around 2019 wow yeah and I did I did the despised icon tour in 2019 I did it sober for the

it's the first I ever did sober and it was probably up until that point the best toy I ever had and I was like oh shit this is making a huge difference. But then, you know, we kind of had COVID and, like, kind of slipped back into a, you know, a bad lifestyle again. Sure. And my missus at the time, we were kind of like going through

a point where she was just like, I've kind of had enough of this, to be honest. And I was like, yeah, you're right. And it was actually her that was getting into fitness at the time. Doing a lot of running and cycling and whatever. And I was like, you're not going to try this. I just fell in love with it immediately here.

It's like I took alcohol in my life and I needed to replace the void with something and I feel like that's kind of the same for a lot of people where once they take out drugs or booze or whatever they need to fill their life with something else you got to put in something else you have to man and it has to be something positive you know because a lot of people make the mistake by you know filling it with something else you know whether it's sex or whatever yeah you know um but yeah I've fell in love with it and I'm just now I'm fucking mental for it I do massive rides I run a lot he is mental yeah yeah yeah right proper mental like when I was still

working my previous job. I'd speak to him because I was a mailman as a postman. You know, I'm delivering for like five or six hours. I'd be on the phone the entire time to him and he's still on a fucking ride. Wow. Like, yeah.

Insane. Five hours? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I did like about 7,000 kilometers last year. And we did like, what, four months, five months of touring? Yeah, I do quite a lot. Well, I'm at home.

It's pretty, I ride every day. I'll that fail. Yeah. Do you, uh, what's your, like, morning? Like, do you wake up and it's, just put on, Put on clothes and his head out. Immediately.

Yeah. Immediately. Yeah. Coffee? Nope. Just straight up. Spandex on, out he goes. Yeah.

Yeah. Tees straight honey. Go on. Get up. Spandex. Yeah. Like, out. Wow.

Yeah. Yeah. That just shows how. Insane you know. Good. I was at drinking. Oh, to fill it with that voice. Yeah.

I can, I can back him up. He was fantastic at drinking. Yeah. He was Yeah He starts Like a typical drummer You know

I know Yeah But it's funny Like people like Like these guys They just can't imagine me That way And people who have met

Oh Before who had not seen for 10 years They're like You'd be sober for five years They just can't understand it Yeah So it's quite funny It's like

Yeah it's quite funny It's like It's like No No way It's like It's like It's like

It's like Yeah Oh shit Oh shit Oh mate Have you got one of them Look at that That's insane

you should get one of them that's you dude what the bibs not the bibb the fucking yeah the bibs yeah it's got a bib okay you guys in that

just that ingested you should just ride in that you should just ride in that no yeah yeah it's amazing yeah ingested bicycle helmets

I've thought about doing jerseys but I don't think it's our market and you probably sell one yeah or two but you never know when a niche market's gonna hit I know you are right You don't know.

Is he going to flop or do you okay or this fucking... We've done football shirts before, don't we? That's a bit safer, though, don't it, man. Yeah, it is been safer. Cycling is nice. Hockey ones would be cool. Like, hockey's cool. The what?

Like hockey shirts. Oh, he's not riding your bike. Is he this guy? Well, it's six, so... So, uh... So, uh, so riding a bike really helped you, uh, quit booze. Yeah, essentially. Massively.

Yeah. Oh, shit. I think it gets my head and getting in the game a lot. Like, even like, even like, you know, I kind of do most of the business side of the things of the band as well. I think I subconsciously, when I'm on a ride, I put a lot of things in place in my head of like the vision of what we're going to do. That's a good idea.

I think everyone needs that, though, if you go to the gym or you run or whatever, you know, I think you just need that space from distraction, you know. That's a good idea. It's fucking like they're riding and let you, do you like, are you riding? You're just letting your mind go? Yeah, yeah. Well, I do a lot of climbs. I do a lot of hill riding, so.

Okay. That's awesome, man. Holy shit. I enjoy it a lot. But, I mean, where I live in New Yorker is like the mecca for a road cycle. Like all the World Tour teams, they all train there every year. So, like, if I ride in winter, like, around January, yeah. Yeah, I'll go do, like, some climbs of the mountains and stuff, and you always see pros there.

Oh, okay. Yeah, so it's pretty cool. It's a really nice, you know, kind of community and culture there. I mean, there's, there. Oh, that's beautiful, man. Yeah. Beautiful. It was a toll then for two grand.

That's that's like a lot of us. So that's about 900 meters of climbing from sea level. Wow. That's insane. If you're just listening, I mean, that's like 30 kilometers my house. It's beautiful, man. Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. That looks crazy.

It's fucking hard. It looks hard for sure. Holy shit. I cannot do that. It's by water and. Yeah, it's not. Wow. That's sick, dude.

I've lived in worst places. Birmingham. Does that, uh, I saw that flight you lived in. I mean, that has to help your, that has to help your drumming. Yeah, big time. Big time. I feel like my endurance is much better for drumming, though.

Hit flexes as well. I mean, like, I mean, the style of playing like now. I mean, you know, obviously do a lot of double strokes on the kicks. Yeah. And it's mainly hip flexer. Really? Is it? Yeah, yeah.

And for me, it is anyway. I mean, my fucking technique's a bit retarded, but I find a way around it. Okay. But does a job. Yeah, yeah. Yeah Are you still golfing? Golfing

Yeah I've not played golf For a while actually But I used to when I was younger How the fuck do you find out Huh We went with Derek Oh yeah

Yeah That was the first time I played In like Probably about five years with Derek Okay Yeah yeah Nice I used to play a lot

When I was younger though I enjoy it Nice Yeah It's a fucking I've always I've always been into sport Always

Yeah I play football A lot with younger Cricket Like just always I've always had that And then Booz and death metal

kind of took over for a bit. Yeah. Wow. It's sounding like, yeah. Like, get like a bit more, yeah.

It's hard to go on tour and not get hammered up really. Yeah. It is, though, isn't it? It's easier for me now, no one else who's drinking.

Yeah. Because I just get the, you, to be fair, to be the daggers. To be fair, when I was actually, like,

trying to give up these guys helped me a lot because they, we took booze off the rider for like, yeah. Yeah. Oh,

yeah. That was actually my, my last question to you. How do you, like, how do you stop when you're gone? It was hard. It was hard.

Like, it took me like about four times to really commit. Like, I'd try and then I'd slip back into it and try again, slip back into it. Oh, shit. Yeah. It's not easy.

Like, anyone that has to go through anything like that, it's, what was different from the fourth time? That filled the void was something positive. That was it. I think I, I was searching for something to,

to fill. it's almost like bored of it isn't it like drinking at home and like just everything I did was surrounded by by alcohol like if I watch football I have to go do it in the pub I can't just watch football at home I've got to go to the pub and do it

yeah Christmas right what we buy in like a bottle of gym you know a few bottles of wine it was just like everything was surrounded by drinking so as soon as you take that away you need to find you need to find some else and luckily I found something that I enjoy but

yeah I didn't know that yeah that the cycling was so like big for you man yeah it's massive for me. Oh shit, man. I love it. I spend a fucking load of money on it.

Honestly. With him, like he's bad with it, you know, we obviously take the piss out of him with the... Yeah. Like, he's the same.

Yeah, he's a nerd in a different way. Do you know what I mean? Sport. Yeah. It's like the most expensive instrument playing drums plus,

like another extremely expensive hobby. Luckily I have a few companies that help me with dogs. I'm not that good at cycling yet. Yeah. Yeah. Do ingested bikes to your arm?

Yeah. And just Hispanics? I'd wear it. I'd wrap not. That'd be sick, dude. Come on. You wouldn't. No, I wouldn't.

I mean, yeah, it's an interesting dynamic because, yeah, because Linus I was shrinking and you're still a mess, right? That's strong. I'm kidding. Occasionally, yeah. I'm a good drunk, though, usually. Yeah. All right. Yeah, I just have my only breakfast point.

It's true, yeah That was a fun night, man It's fucking It was a fun night I enjoyed it It was top hanging How was that show? What,

on the day? Yeah, it was cool, man What, New England? Yeah, I enjoyed it I enjoyed that game That day But, um Yeah

I mean, because we wanted to play that For so long You obviously got a bit bit excited So Well, you did it You got excited Yeah, I do. You got in there, didn't you?

Sick. Yeah. I love playing a rock show, dude. The next day was a bit of struggle. Outside. Of course. Yeah. The hangovers are getting a slightly more difficult on the body.

That was another thing when it turned 30. It's like an overnight. Yeah. You wait. You wait. I'm telling you. I believe it. Yeah.

I have to like strategically like decide usually if I'm going to drink the night and like, I'll stick to this. because then it's easier to deal with the next day Oh, totally is... Do you know what I mean? New England went a bit off the rails which is why I suffered for like three days afterwards but... If I decide to drink at home

we'll get like specific amount of beers and go this is it so I can manage to look after the children the next days. I'm not wanting to kill myself. Yeah. Does your lady ever tell you to like... Yes.

All right, stop here. All the time. All the time? Yeah. And what do you do? I listen. Wise. Smart man.

Smart man. There's been times on tour Yeah Where he's gone out where I get to bed pretty early these days And I'll wake up to like a text message off his wife Go in Blah fucking shot

I'm just like He's had a good night It's been a while though That's been a while to be fair Yeah Yeah Getting better Getting better

Yeah it's an ongoing thing Yeah well Like he said It helps that like No one really else drinks You've calmed down as well because you're obsessed with the gym at the moment. He doesn't drink. He doesn't drink.

Nice. There's just no, there's no excuse for me to like get. It's rare that you go overboard though. You'll have like four beers and you're like, I'm done. Yeah. Like, age, I can't fucking get up and play anymore. Yeah. Like if I'm on a heavy night and I just can't play.

Yeah. It's horrendous. That was the thing for me as well. My drumming fucking took a nose dive. And I was like, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I'm shit.

But we didn't know because we're all doing the same thing at the same time. Yeah. And then we watched videos back and go, Ish. Yeah. It's Roby. Whoops. Yeah.

You were nice drunk, though. I like it when you're drunk. Because you get very like, nice me, like, whoa, love you, man. Continue to say. It's so sick. Happy drunk, man. It's great.

Don't be me an acid drunk, dear. No, no. Swapping around the alley and stuff. It's like, even if I'm like, like, not next you're talking to you, I see you from a distance. I can tell how smashed you are. It's like different, like, Sean levels.

And it's great. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. That's my main rule of drinking If you can No matter how much you drink If you're positive

Cool Yeah If there's any kind of darkness in there You really got to fucking Now now you gotta check it Dude You gotta fucking check that But a lady

Definitely helps Yeah Definitely helps Yeah I don't know what sort of state I'd been If I wasn't with Kelly No idea Probably wouldn't be good

But I think anyone that like chooses to be with People like us Who tall a lot Yeah. And obviously I have some deep rude fucking issues. It takes a special person, do you know what I mean?

Totally. Totally. So I usually ask this at the end, but I'm just going to throw it in now. Do you guys have anything about your band that you guys want out there for people to know or anything about the story? Nothing springs to mind, really. I mean, it should be lots to talk about when it's begun. for nearly 20 years but no I don't know man I don't know if I think most things

that we've talked about today people probably already know from like just us talking on podcasts and stuff so I don't know you think about me no I think we cover I mean yeah yeah I mean have you got anything else it could be uh I could I think life is one big podcast

so yeah so so you could I mean we could talk wherever it doesn't matter so I was just you should throw it around like The embelly right now he's felt like, let's just see what they see now. I don't know, actually. Because only because of the spot

that your band's in. Yeah, no. I mean, there was definitely certain areas and times through the years where we nearly gave it up. Yeah, that's true. Probably not a lot of people do that. A few of those, yeah.

I mean, like, the members at the time or worked in restaurants, I didn't, and he got to, like, management level and stuff. So he would miss quite a lot of stuff because his work life priority was managing restaurants. And so between, like, the years

of, I think 2010 was pretty good but it died off pretty quick because we did like Black Dalia tour and stuff and Carfax and that and then we did get picked up by a booking agent avocado and it picked us up back then so it kind of was like a massive void

for like a year and a half two years about two years, we didn't do much we're just really doing anything our second album, Cereption came out at the start of 2011 and didn't really do much so we'd never really happen with it though No.

But, yeah, it was definitely massive. And he joined another band. So, like, all of 2011, I think maybe we did one or two tours, but, like, proper, like, low-key UK tours that weren't anything. And then in 2012, he joined another band that ended up going on tour for most of that year.

So 2011, 2012, basically did nothing. Yeah. And we started getting towards the end of 2013, and I just forced, I forced me and the guitarist and write something. And we wrote that.

revered by no and fair by all EP. I said, I really need to do something and just forced it on everyone. And it's kind of like, kind of saved it a bit, didn't it? Yeah, I guess. And we gave ourselves, literally, we did the EP, released it at the end of 2013, and I gave us six months,

I booked in the same studio and said, right, we've got six months to write an album, and that's what we did. So we released the EP, and I said, right, this is the date we're going in, so we needed to have an album. So by the time we went in there, we had architect's extinction.

And then when the architect came out, And that's kind of when it... That's when it kicked off really. We got our first US tour. Yeah. With origin and stuff. So, yeah. Since then, it's been all right.

Steady growth, you know? After, you know, so many records, you know, still going. Yeah. Probably shouldn't be still going. I mean, you're right, though. Since 2015, 2018 as well, we've kind of... That's when we've been consistent at releasing. Yeah, I mean, 2015.

up to 2018 was us dipping our toes and you know at least doing stuff but 2018 was definitely when we've been an album under every two years basically that's when it really fucking that explains it so you guys put it in a little bit more uh consistency well yeah

I mean we like even when we got the US tour in the 2015 I remember talking to the boys and going like we nearly split up this might never have happened and then you get that taste for it then you're like what if we give up now what's next so you know the stubbornness of wanting to know what's next each time

kind of keeps the band going, I think. You just don't fucking know, do you? You don't know? You don't know, but that was definitely the starting point for us. We're basically either reaching 30 or just turning 30 and going, if we don't fucking put our foot down and do it now, it's not fucking happening.

So when we did that, we were like, right, let's go. And we were starting to get offers as well for tours. And we were still, like, working. Real jobs. But, you know, we were starting to get office for I thought us that we were turning down because we were just like, you know, we can't do it because of work commitments, whatever. And I was like, I said to him, to Sean, I was like, if we took all these offers, we might be able to make this work, you know.

Yeah. You know, if we can tour five, six months of the year, which is a lot, but, you know, back then you have to, you have to take the risk. Mm-hmm. You know. I think the work we put in that year, I think we did like 160 shows. Yeah, we did a lot. Which is obviously, we tore three months back to back.

It's a fucking lot. I think that's kind of like got us on. everyone's eyes where it's like oh this band's actually doing stuff but you know I think it kind of got the ball rolling a little bit so yeah we were really happy when COVID kicked in oh my god

it gave us a break to be fair yeah it did I remember it was taking we were on a we did we did Russia a Ukraine like a little weird Eastern European like straight into a US tour we had

fucking like two weeks off and went straight into another European tour with decapitated and then we accepted something else on that tour did we? Or am I getting them mixed up? No,

we accepted the decapitated tour before. Oh, did we put on the oh no, because we did surpassing Europe, yeah, Russia,

US and then we took the decapitated tour. And we were fucking done. Yeah. We were burnt. I was like two days in that tour I was like,

I can't fucking play drums anymore. Yeah. And then COVID happens like, fuck for that. So we did like eight shows and it was done and we're just fucking like,

thank you. Wow. Yeah, I didn't want people to die and like, To last fucking two years or whatever, but... Yeah. Just give me like a week off.

I mean... Yeah. Well, bloody guys kept going. So I'm. It's great, man. Yeah. It's great. You guys are here.

It's awesome. So what, uh, you guys are leaving tonight or, uh... Yeah, tonight. Tonight. Yeah. So that's the, a border to run. Yeah. Yeah.

Peen and flesh and extermination dismemberment. Yeah. Yeah. That's an old. That's an old poster. Stabbing dropped out. Um, I think extermination. Extermination can't do Canada.

No. Is it necrotic gorbys? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, cool. And I'm not they're doing a few. How many Canadian Day 2? 2.

I think they might be doing both. Nice. Yeah, necrotic gorbees. Sick. That's cool. I tell you what, I can't wait to see Peter and Flesh every night. Some of the best people I know, and their music is just dumb.

It's nice when you do at all when you know everyone. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, Extermination is doing the pot on Friday. Oh, cool. Who's that playing tomorrow? Is that tomorrow? Who's that band?

Peelan can't make it. They pulled out in there? Yeah. Oh, what? Yeah, they broke down. They broke down. Oh, they broke down. Yeah.

That sucks. I can't read that logo. Oh, worm flesh. Oh, it's matey boys from fucking... Warm flesh. Warm flesh. Wow. It's dude that does that cabinet company.

A rack needed a summit. Oh, really? Yeah, I think that's his band. Hmm. Yeah. That's sick. It's sick. It's kind of funny going back to Rosa on this certain venue

because that's like... That day was like... part of one of the tours i did my first u.s tour with ingested it was like pair of maids and uh rosal was actually like one of uh the dates oh cool so it's funny coming back like you go back yeah three years later and like performing like finally in the u.s oh shoot what a full circle that is yeah it's pretty funny and like so same began with like 1720 that whole entire tour was sold out so you can imagine like a dumb like 23 oh maybe just like inhaling america just being like i mean Physically and mentally inhaling it.

Yeah, honestly, yeah. Waffle house, like, fucking... Hey, cheese, bacon, patty melt, double up on the hash pounds with the water. You can't go wrong at Woffer House. With the water. Always the water. You can't balance it out, you know?

Yeah. Because it's like, it's the best. Nothing comes close to it. Apart from, is it Ryan from... Metal Blade. Yeah? Who came out and brought me that cheese, bacon, patty metal. That was up there. That was insane.

That was in Riverside. What's that? Cross the street. Oh, yeah. Hero. was here. That place? Fucking hell.

The portion size is about outrageous. Fucking so good. Dude, that place was crackers. I'd love to go there again. Yeah. Place is bomb, dude. Yeah.

Yeah. Cheese baking powder milk from my house. Can't go wrong with it. But I want to go on a Friday night. I want to see the fight clubs. Yeah. Yeah. If I have a fight club.

Okay. Oh. Oh. Now, yeah. Oh, now we get it. Yeah, it clicked. It clicked in a very, very last minute.

It's about you are, though. Some ropy town. John ma'am some proper fucking hanging town waffle house at 2 a.m's not it's not the best place in the world That's pretty good man I mean I'll eat that right now Yeah I'm starving a bill on all right I write out man I write a fucking do you want alright I write a fucking do out right? Yes Go denny's That's sick hey we're not done denies in ages man

Was the denny's uh by you yeah speaking of being you guys can do denny's Yeah but the colleagues consistent I feel like denny's is tapped now dude yeah I think it's tapped and it's increased in bright Actually, actually, dude, there's one redeeming quality about Denny's, and that is that they brought back the 246-8 menu. Because they took it out for like years, like a couple of years, a few years. And that was, I mean, for me, that's the only thing I ordered off of, you know. They're trying to save it or something.

Yeah, I think they realized that they fucked up, you know? Yeah. We've got a singular Denny's in the UK. Yeah. To Swansea. In Swansea. I have every place in the UK. Swanzi.

sick dude well cool tour starts uh tomorrow uh i think where it's all right happen um where can people find you guys all the usual shit ingested dot code at uk obviously instagram ingested facebook ingested no else uses anything else at this point do they god you discord you start discord yeah we got a discord server that's strapping sue we haven't really announced it but i'm sure by this it'll be yeah it's just to kind of like bring us closer to the fans and give us some of behind the scenes, uncensored things, just things that won't be out of the public and they'll get early access on things

because like the mailing list is cool but I think a Discord is a lot closer because I can imagine main list a lot of it so it does go to your spam. So hopefully it's all pretty much more attention. Nice. What's that? Do you know how it works?

Do you know how it works? No, I tried to. I don't know how Discord works. I hope. Do you know it works? What's the Discord? Uh, I know. I never been on it

I didn't know about it until he told us I was like when he created the discord and I got on it I was like what the fuck is this like what does this button do like it was like teaching my granddad has used an iPhone yeah it was insane but it was good fucking all right but we have we have been talking about it either for the ban or

or the pod something maybe good on there yeah because I feel like it would just bring you closer and like the more topics that get brought up like announcements it would get put like hashtag announcement hashtag whatever and it'll just bring you closer and people can talk about these certain topics and is it like Reddit

yes but probably not as toxic oh fuck not as toxic not as toxic but um yeah i just feel like it can just bring you closer to the fans and they'll get that exclusive content and what if they need and they'll be the first to know about everything and plus we just want to have one-on-ones with like band members and know about shit yeah and totally that people can you know about you know know which I think I think right now it's pretty important fucking yeah god I don't know what I was to say floating in the deep end yeah

I'm a very minimal guy I like dark souls I have a dark eye own dog that's it well tall now how does that feel I feel naked exposed

I feel exposed I feel exposed well well Josh I wish you personally the best of luck thank you you know

is this a journey man yeah there's a lot of learning curves still but I'm here I'm excited it's gonna be good talk kicks off tomorrow

tomorrow so yeah it's gonna be sick yeah don't listen in the comments man they they don't know I actually laugh about them now I used to get like wearing the obitamin just slap me over the head was like stop watching stop reading I was like cool cool

fit for all types of help me a bunch in that as well oh good yeah like you do Yeah, great. Because Blue was just like ignore it because Joe, I was going through the same thing. Everyone's going to the same thing, like vocally.

Yeah, everyone. It's what it is. I don't know. I think the song rips. It's heavy. Get over it. And you're just going to get better. Yeah.

You know? Like, it's a four-minute song. I can't put everything into a four-minute song. I just have to make it as best as I can be. And I feel like I succeeded. Yeah. It's, it's, everything. everything that I feel ingested

should be and sad it's probably the closest to our roots we've done in fucking ages ages probably since back to level maybe yeah not I mean great because it's like I remember my I went really there with my bands

and then I was just like saying to Sean was like I want to do girls yeah I want to do heavy shit and then months later on it was like what you'll come do this I was like yeah yeah put it in there slap it in there lad so what I mean? Yeah, because this whole song dissent to me and was like, do what you want with it.

And we didn't really change much. No. I think a bit, but yeah. Just cleaned up some bits, but yeah. He works his socks off of. Yeah. That's the one thing I say about Josh is he's a hard worker. Well, put it this way, like him,

the sacrifices he's made just to fucking sell merch for this ban. He's been insane. I dropped my own band, runner shows to just do this year. I just wanted to tour. I never thought I'd be in the band. I never thought I'd be talking to you one-on-one. It'd just be like,

call a while I just wanted to go on tour. I didn't care how, whatever, I just wanted to tour. And I've never really toured until doing much for the year. So, like, when I did, started doing all these guys, the first tour we did was Fit for an Autopsy, Enterprise Earth, Ingest,

to Great American Ghost and Saturnals, and then just learned the roots, And even on these tours, I'd do with the band. I do, like, features, go on stage with, like, distant, signs of the swarm. Yeah, you always did that on tour, isn't it. Yeah, just because I enjoy it. I didn't care. I just wanted to do it.

And then it's funny because on the Tides of Death and Fractured Dreams tour, Volvedinia, there has some visa issues. And then on that Europe, like, I think I did eight or 12 shows, just filling in for Voradina. Wow. So I was, like, doing merch and doing this. and I love it and I feel like it's

where I've always wanted to be in my life I didn't know I think when I was like 18 I used to put myself down I was like oh I should be torn by now but it when you get old it takes a long fucking time and what I'm like 26

and I've only just got here and I'm stoked about it but yeah it's like I'm going to a boy tomorrow I can't really complain but yeah you'll be right yeah I like to think I've worked my ass off

like dealing with massive merch orders even like doing the Cannibal Corpse tour I think that was like two months and I was doing merch for ingested

and Storm Ruler just like just because I wanted to I don't care literally I just wanted at a tour I think even doing the first tour with these

they offered me he was like how much do you want and I was like I'll do it for free he was like you can't because if I do it for free that if I do something wrong

he can't shout at me yeah yeah I was like I can't have you do it for free yeah can't bollick her and I've only been balked once that's his fault the card reader

that was a good one yeah enjoyed what is that balak man bollick getting shouted out yeah getting yelled at bollicking oh yeah yeah and this uh in jester tour with devam was an eye opener as well because we're in some parts of god knows we're in Texas and

Sean was like come watch come watch divam and I was like yeah cool angel was finning in for him oh yeah it was Ruben yeah Ruben yeah Ruben came in and did a few I did a couple shows yeah I said just fucking watch this and And oh my god, ever since I seen that, I wanted to go as low as this guy, and I'm still trying to do it. I was just like, honestly, like, I don't know how old he is, but that age and still kicking ass.

I was like, shit, this is how I want to be when I'm like, even in a wheelchair or not, just fucking crue. Yeah. We wheelchair slam. Wheelchair slam? I ain't changing your fucking nappy, though, mate. Why not? I'm not doing it. I'm not, mate?

Nah. You used to it, yeah? Yeah. Nah Nah You will be You'll understand one day Well cool

Well Everyone go Check them out They're on tour now And Jess said Thank you for For making the drive Thank you for your time

Hell yeah And I think Thank you for letting me Be in your band For an hour 40 Cool I'm honored Yeah

Chase for having I really appreciate Thank you Been pleasly Yeah Anytime All right everyone That's it

Later Fuck off Ha ha ha ha ha ha