Garza Podcast - 18: Jose Mangin | SiriusXM Host: Liquid Metal, Octane

Episode Date: June 14, 2021

Jose Mangin is the host, curator at SiriusXM's Liquid Metal and Octane. We talk about his love for metal, hosting The Mitch Lucker Memorial Show, and much more. SPONSORS: Click this link to purchase from Sweetwater & help support the podcast: imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB

Our guest today is the host and heart for Sirius XM's Lick of Metal and Octane. He's been at Sirius XM for 20 years and is still giving as much as he can to the metal scene. I hope he enjoyed his conversation. Let's get into it. Please welcome on Metal Ambassador Jose Mangan. I love cold beer, man. The older I get, God, feels good. I just love, I love modellos, I love tequila.

You know, I love water. Dude, that's the trifectar right there. Have you always been big on tequila and beer? I think at the moment I met you if we were doing shots of the shots of that. I mean, I've been on metal tequila, beer, and weed.

You know, those have been my favorite things and I'm very public and loving about those things. But yeah, but tequila, I try, because so many people don't really know about tequila and they only know what they have experienced and that's that shitty tap tequila, you know, that people are drinking at bars, they're pouring down your throat. It's the stuff at spring break.

It's the stuff that gives you diarrhea and barking spiders and mean hangovers. And you talk to people, oh, when I drink tequila, I turn into a different person. You know, well, that's not tequila that you're drinking. Oh, yes, it is. You know, no, it's not. You know, it's called mixto. Mixto is what most of that shit is from. The Cuervo Gold, the white label Cuervo.

that's all mixedal. That's 51% sugars and shit and 49% from the agave plant. You know, drinking real tequila is 100% from the agave plant. And that's the good shit. That's the antioxidant stuff. That's the stuff. If you sip on that and you drink that, you're not going to wake up with a hangover. If you mix it with beers and margaritas and all this other sugars and stuff, that's how you wake up with hangovers. But if you were to sip on awesome good tequila, beautiful tequila, you will wake up awesome in the morning, dude. So it's a real. a real healthy, cool option, I think. Yeah, it seems with the things that you love, you really do your research. Well, dude, there's a few things that I love. Yeah, and I love wearing my passion on my sleeve. That's always been something that I found that works for my life, you know, just being such a fan of stuff. Like, for me, it started as metal, you know, when I was in kindergarten,

but being such a fan and loving something so much. And then, yeah, knowing all about that, I mean, I think that's the way we're supposed to do things. you know and I think it's better when I'm talking about something that you can you know help influence infect inspire you know other people to do cool shit you know so yeah I feel like I feel like not enough people wear their passion on their sleeve loudly enough yeah you know people do but but I don't know I think people hold back and shit they feel like they're scared to to to be themselves a lot of times you know totally so I've always felt the opposite you know

And I feel like it's, you know, that it's working, you know what I mean? Yeah. Did you always have that? Natural ability to wear your passions on your sleeves. Yes, because I saw that being such a super metalhead and a super stoner growing up and a super nerd. You know, those three things.

I stood out. You know, I stood out from everybody else. I felt that right away. I knew that I was like, oh, shit. you know, they're not getting as crazy about this Pantera record as I am, you know, like, what's wrong? Am I just fucking too crazy or is everybody else, you know, not as hyped up on it? So, yeah, I felt that that was always a thing that helped me stand out, you know, even, again, just more with the education part, you know, and all that stuff.

Yeah, man, you got a, you know, I was a big chemistry nerd and I said how much I loved chemistry when my wife now of 20 years, when she met me, I had a periodic table card in my wallet. You know, the periodic table of elements, you know, that chart in fucking school. I had a fucking card in my wallet. And I showed like her in the beginning. She was like, what the fuck are you doing with a fucking, I'm like, what? That's cool, just, you know? And I just think that shit's really cool.

So I like to be loud with the shit that I love. love as you should and and to other people that's very inspiring that's inspiring to to me and especially being an outsider looking in especially for as long as I've known you you've always been someone that's not afraid to take a swing publicly and then fail but then keep going yeah you know and not a lot of people will fucking swing and we we definitely have that in common you know what's what's gonna happen if I miss you know I mean dude I

man I feel so blessed in this life and I just want to try to help as many bands and as many fans as I can and you know at the same time helping my family and my friends and stuff so yeah I'm gonna just fucking do shit

because I don't want to dwell on stuff I fuck up all the time on the radio all the time I say the wrong shit not on purpose you know I'm just fucking flying by. I'm on 12 hours a day and you're trying to remember

everything with 50 years of heavy metal music and not researching everything that I'm going to say and looking it up. I just fucking say it from my gut and my heart and my, what I remember. But I fuck up all the time and I get called out on him,

but I can't dwell on that kind of stuff. I can't be like, oh, it fucked up and now it's fucked up and now I can't deal with shit. Like, you know, I've fucked up. All right, cool. Like, get up and let's keep on going. I think that's a lesson that's a real powerful one too for anyone in any field of what they do.

But I love fucking up because it also makes me more human too because we all fuck up. We all fuck up. We all fall in our face. We all say stupid shit. You know, I've said dumb shit, you know, and I've been called out on it. You know, I've said all sorts of stuff. But again, I, you know, we move on, man. And there's other things that are bigger deals and stuff like that.

And I've played bands that have not done well and I thought they were going to do well. But I don't know if that's maybe a swing and a miss. But for me, the initial part of what I said earlier was I want to help as many people. So even if I'm playing a song and it doesn't go anywhere and people don't like it, at least I gave that song and that band a chance for 120 spins. At least they got heard. You know, it didn't do anything. You know, no one really cared.

No one gave a shit except I did. And that band gave a shit, you know? I don't even know who that band is, but they did. I'm sure they appreciated those hundred spins on satellite radio, you know. So, yeah, man. But I feel like fucking up is part of it, you know, and just it's how you get up and how you come back and how you... Dude, I fucked up so bad on stage one time I introduced children of Bodom as being from Sweden. and they're from Finland

but it was New York City it was Roseland it was sold out Lamagod Show I had just smoked a fucking bunch of good weed with John Campbell him and I always smoke weed before I do these intros on stage and for some reason I fuck up you know

but I went up on stage and 3,000 people fucking pack New York City the energy was awesome and I was hosting the entire night so I was introducing all four of the bands and Boatum was the second direct support for Lama God went out there and I was like

oh no no people were so fuck stuck and these guys came all the way from Sweden to entertain you tonight New York City and then all the sudden booed and I just start hearing all this shit from the audience and I couldn't

I couldn't decipher what they were saying I just started yelling and booing like and I was like what the fuck like what's that happening. And then my friend Scotty, who works on liquid metal with me, he came over and tapped me on the shoulder and he,

into my ear. He was like, they're from Finland, buddy. Finland. And then he just, fucked, he walked off the stage and I was like, I mean, Finland and then boom, boom. Oh, no. Get on stage, fuck yeah, fuck you. Children of bottom.

He's like, oh my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And to this day, dude, that was a long time ago. And to this day, fans still come up and say how I fucked up you know on there but um it's fine dude it's funny it's I fucked that's not the first time wasn't the last time

but it's fun man you know I can't I can't let that stuff you know affect me you can't no you know there was a fun corn reference I know we love corn so much one of my favorite bands and I was uh introducing them at the appal no not the Apollo

in LA at the performing arts theater or something we did a a corn live broadcast on Octane for Sirius X-M. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was like five years ago. Yeah. And I was, it was a big deal. It was like the day before the corn album comes out.

It was like a huge deal. I just did a big fucking interview with Jonathan Davis backstage. I mean, it was big. Like, Sirius spent money on this. Like, there was a lot of shit happening. And it was a fucking big deal for us. And so beforehand, they were like, you know, for the intro, you know, what are you going to say? You know, how long is your intro?

And I said, I don't know. at least 60 seconds. How about give me 90 seconds? And they were like, you know, okay, okay. Well, we need a buzzword. We need a keyword that when you say this keyword, then we're going to cut the lights and turn the intro music on.

And I was like, all right, uh, and it was like, it was already a couple minutes late. So, you know, backstage that nervous scramble with production dudes and people sound guys and tour men, everybody's fucking yelling and freaking, and it was yelling and I was fucking panicking because it was live and it was all these people were there

and all these workers from the headquarters of Sirius X-N were there it was a big fucking concert and family and friends and so they were like what's gonna be your buzzword? I was like, okay, corn, corn. And then the guy was all right, all right.

And then they get on the walkie-talkies, they get on their shit. Okay, when the host says corn, shut the lights. And so I'm there like Like okay Here They give me the mic around

Okay go go go And then I fucking go I'm like You know I'm fucking I always get nervous For these things always But it's a good nervous Yeah

And I went out there And I was like Ah you know It was this fucking Historic Theater In Los Angeles And first time doing a live broadcast there

And I was like Man Look at all of us Gathered here For an evening With Corn And Kahn Kunt

lights off, fucking curtains, fucking close, and the fucking mic's off, and I'm, what, what? I'm like, what? And I fucking was fucking panicking. I was like, like, hitting the fucking mic.

I'm like, no, no, guys, guys, I'm not, fuck. I didn't fucking do anything. I didn't fucking say serious sex. I didn't say Octet. I didn't say live broadcasts. I didn't say corn new album. I didn't say fucking anything. And they fucking cut me off because I said corn.

Oh my gosh. When the fucking buzzword, the fucking lights go off, man. I'm like, oh. And I went back. I was like, guys, I said 90 seconds. 90 seconds. And they were saying, you said corn. Oh.

And I just put my head down, dude. It was so, so sad. I was so devastated because I wanted to fucking blow up my friends. I can give them a fucking, like a fucking, give them a good, proper introduction and a thank you. a thank you to the fans and, you know, listeners. I fucking, I knew everything I was going to say. Yeah. And I fucking, I went back and then Melissa, she was like, oh, that was short.

And then people were like, oh, usually you don't do shit that short. And I was like, guys, that's not what it was supposed to be, you know? And they were like, oh, yeah, it didn't seem normal. And I was just so fucking bummed out. Like, almost crying, dude. Like, I was like, this was embarrassing. You know, like my boss is. is people were like, what

kind of fucking intro was that? Do you know what I mean? And it came down on you. But I didn't get in trouble. I got mad at myself. This is one of the times that I think I was like most just so pissed off at what I did.

You know, like I fucking said corn, but I shouldn't have fucking made the buzzword corn. But they should, I said 90 seconds. Give me please 90 seconds. Whatever that fucking is, just you'll know when I end. I'll end. It'll be obvious. So, um, that one was a pretty fucking big fuck up.

Yeah, but there's more, but that one, but I mentioned the corn one because I love corn. Yeah, corn is my favorite band, and we share that in common. They're incredible. Dude, I hate when people say that corn's not a metal band. But you know what? Jonathan Davis has said that to my face

so many times over the years. He says, Jose, but we're not a metal band. I'm like, Jonathan, no. Yes, you are. So I'm arguing with the singer of the band, and I love you, Jonathan. but I mean you are a metal band Corn is a metal band

metal is big Chris you know metal is a big fucking umbrella and there's a lot of different factions and subgenres under metal the fucking big umbrella rock is the bigger umbrella which we all live under but metal is a big umbrella

and corn's fucking under that metal umbrella fucking for sure 100% 100% so what about what dude there's P I just just got a fucking tweet today or yesterday. No, it was yesterday about fucking corn and system of a down not being metal and how don't fucking,

because we have a game show called Into the Trivia Pits, call in game show we do on liquid metal. And I'm fucking love corn. I ask a lot of corn questions and we fucking get people all the time. They always fuck up corn questions because they don't know. But then people will say they're not a fucking metal band. Don't include them in those questions. And I'm like, you're fucking stupid.

I'm sorry They are a metal band They are They are They totally are And it's so strange When like you You know you've heard like

The conversation with With John and But then there's There's us That are fans that love them Like I Me in my heart and soul I am a 90s

New Metal kid And they always talk down On that word But when I hear that as a fan I'm like Dude I'm proud to say that I'm so proud to say

I am a new metal kid That's me You know They are a band and when you see corn, dude, to me, it might be a personal opinion, but man, they are like the heaviest live band. Holy fuck, dude. They have some parts of songs, dude, are so fucking metal. Absolutely. We play so much corn on liquid metal.

And I love that. And we listen to liquid metal all the time in the gym. And I work out a lot and but corn comes up a lot. And then my friend, Eddie, he's like, man, you know, because he'll argue with me that corn's, not a metal band and I'm like dude are you so then you know every time corn comes on I'm like look at that listen to this are you kidding me that's not

metal and we'll sit down I'll be fucking head back listen to that shit and he was like oh this part's fucking house like no no no no you know you're not fucking listening this is fucking metal dude you know so I love fucking corn dude I wanted to get a big like fucking corn tattoo and then my wife Melissa was like

yeah maybe not and I'm like what really why not You know? So I love corn that much, you know? Same. I might even just get a big fucking K out my fucking face, dude. Woo! Get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, good, I just, I think a big ass fucking K, you know what I'm saying?

That'd be hard. That'd be hard. I'll be like, what the fuck, man, you know, F you see K fucker, you know? Yeah, I think a corn tattoo is definitely in the horizon. Well, I think I maybe just even the, the, the, the, the K, you know, I just. I love them. That's how much I love them. I would just fucking do that.

You know, or even the cool logo, like, oh, sorry. Like on my foot, on the top of my foot, you know, when I'm wearing the flip-flops and shit, and then Slayer logo on the other one. So then someone would be like, oh, you're fucking, and I'll be like, oh, look it. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah.

Unfortunately, it is a rarity that someone's so open-minded, so to all forms of metal. You know, it's kind of rare, you know. This is metal. This is awesome metal. Yeah. I love both. I love everything in between.

I love everything around it. Yeah. Yeah. There is a lot of us like that, but there is a lot that are just super into their alley, their tunnel, their lane of metal. And that's what they, that's what they, that's all they love. And, you know, I feel like, you know, slowly, even those people are starting to kind of expand. I feel, I feel like it's not, it's not as hateful as it used to be sort of. I agree.

You know, right? I feel like, especially with all the fucking stuff that's happening in the world, it's like, you know, music is an island of peace. You know, it should be something where we can come and we can, you know, agree and feel good about this stuff and not argue because there's so many arguments happening everywhere else. So, yeah, man, I feel like there are certain, you know, songs or bands that I'm like, oh, that's not, you know. I also listen to things as a programmer for liquid metal because there's things that I can like as a fan of music oh that's cool but then oh am I going to add this to the radio station so there's you know and for me I'm looking to always adding

you know I want to listen to something to play something you know listening to something right away where I know that I'm not going to play that style or that type or that sound or I'm like oh no next you know but oh this I want to play this So, yeah, man, I do, I do, I love metal, you know, I love the music. I love all of it, man. I think I sort of have to be that, do? What if I was someone in this position and I hated on shit?

You know, what if I was the guy that just like something and, you know, that would be fucking sad. You know, that would limit to what I can do and stuff. And I'd rather bring people together and maybe not everybody's going to agree, you know, that corn's metal or whatever. but I'm still like, you know, that song after corn's fucking suffocation, you know, so then, oh, all right, all right, all right. They're fucking cool, they're cool, you know. And then, oh, a little pantera, all right, all right, they're cool. And then system of a doubt, oh, these guys suck, you know.

And then the next song, Suicide Silence, oh, these guys suck. And then the next song, Sepulana, oh, right, all right, they're cool, they're cool. So, you know, but I think we can all fucking hang out. We can all be cool. I don't expect everyone to like the shit and the same shit that I do. But I also am not going to be one that's going to be dogging shit, you know, out there either. Like I know other personalities that, you know, are negative. And they dog shit.

And that kind of starts something too. It starts little fan wave reactions. Like, yeah, yeah, that's right. I don't like it either. You know? You're right. Fuck them. You know, it's like, what, what?

No, no, no, calm down. Guys, we're not fight. We don't need to fight, you know. But I think, so I don't agree with that approach, you know, the approach that people take to start shit. You know, that's just clickbait, you know, or it's just like some journalists like to fucking ask questions that are going to get that fucking clickbait. You know, I won't bring up that shit when I interview guys and stuff and people, because I care. Because I want them to come back and I want them to have a good time. And they're there to promote their album, their tour.

You know, that's why they're there, really. You know, I mean, that's the truth. You know, I have friends come on all the time. But, I mean, really, when I get solicited bands to come on, you know, or friends ask, hey, can we do this? It's because of something that's, you know, they want to. So I want to focus on that and the good stuff and the fun stuff. You know, I can, you know, ask, you know, stupid questions to Vinnie Paul when he was alive.

You know, what about a pantera reunion there, Vinnie, you know? What do you think about your guy? It's so stupid. You know? Fuck. Like, you don't want to do that to him. Tell us about the night, you know, about dime, die. You know, it's like, no, dude.

What the fuck? Why? You know, what about that? You know, somebody else? Tell me about that divorce. You know, tell me about that, whatever. No. Why would I bring that shit up, you know?

Yes, people are going to fucking click that shit, but I'm not going to contribute to that, ever. You know, I don't want to do that, you know? Even when stuff in books that musicians write, And it was kind of fucking fucked up. And maybe they regret some of that shit now. But I don't even really focus on those parts when I'm talking to an author of a book, you know, that had fucking negative gross parts in there about bandmates or something. Like, I bring that stuff up, man, you know?

Yeah. But even though people would be interested to read that kind of shit because people love that, you know, that tabloid stuff. Yeah. But I forgot where we were going to with this. I just start fucking talking about. I love your metal and being open-minded about it. There you go. Yeah, I mean, it's metal has changed my life, dude, completely.

It's my favorite word. I'm actually getting metal tattooed on my stomach. Sick. Yep. June 15th. Get a date. Yeah, June 15th, 11 o'clock. This dude, Ryan Taylor from Houston, he's going to come to Seale Beach.

And I'm going to get, it's not going to be like Tupac style or it's not going to look like letters. It's going to be pretty cool. It's going to be kind of fucking big. And it's going to look not like the word metal. It's going to be pretty cool looking. But yeah, I mean, that's, to me, that word

is my most favorite word in life. You know, I mean, it means everything. It's changed my whole fucking life. Everything is based on metal. If I didn't have metal, I wouldn't have met my wife. I wouldn't have my daughters who are now teenagers, almost about

to graduate high school, one of them. You know, all metal led me to all this stuff. A pure fucking passion for metal, the word metal, periodic table elements. There's a big section of heavy metals. But metal led me to this fucking to be here with you, you know, to do all this fucking shit, man. It's crazy. It's crazy, man. It is.

So I mean, so I guess I just want to do good for it. I want to do good. And I don't want to divide. I think being a divider is, you can. Like I said, get other people to come to your side, you know, but I'd rather have people slowly come over to the good side, you know, come over to the positive. Eventually they might or maybe never, but I'm still going to kill them with kindness.

Kill them in kindness. Yep. Always. Always, dude. Always. I think you win. You win the fucking battle. Always. Always. Yep. If someone had a gun in my head and say, who would you rather,

if there's one person you could choose to represent your genre, I would say, Jose. Oh, that's cool, guys. Do you are the heart and soul and pushing this whole genre forward? In my personal opinion, man. Dude, again, dude, I have this responsibility on my shoulders. I know that, and I have to do good with it. You know, I have to do good with it. Like, I have, there's something that's been, you know, some higher powers have given this awesome

passion level of a public fucking display for that shit. And I have to do good with it, man. So, you know, I push it hard, man. And I've been at Sirius XM now for 20 fucking years. And I know when I say that, it makes me sound old because I guess it does, you know, because I've even heard myself on the radio be like,

20 years. I'm like, ah, that's fucking guy's old. I'm like, oh, hey, that's me. Hey, fuck. But, you know, fuck. I have been there 20 years, man. And I'm proud of that. And I do love pushing it because there's not a lot of, you know, other services or providers that have a face to it.

So consistent and so long, you know, a vocal public face. There's people that are behind the scenes that do amazing things for our genre and help push it forward. You know, like my friends, you know, Susie from Apple and Allison from Spotify. I mean, they're awesome, you know. They're big gatekeepers for our music. You know, but, and there's other, so many other people that work with, you know, publications and websites and everything, and they're helping the genre push it forward, but to have someone out there for a long time, very publicly, you know,

putting out his love for metal. I mean, there hasn't been one person like that, you know. Again, I feel like there's people that do stuff, but they like to be negative, you know, And they kind of like that. That's their approach. But I'm going to go, I'm going the other approach. You know, and I want to be good. You know, even when bad shit happens, you got to fucking, you know, find the good in some shit, you know.

So, but thank you for saying that. I see that a lot from fans and listeners and stuff. And it means a lot to see that. But again, I'm very, I'm a fucking open book. You know, I'm very, I'm not, this is it, you know, what? What you see is what you get now. Little seven dust line. No, no, no, no.

So, but yeah, man, I just want to fucking do good, man. It's been so good to me, and I'm so blessed with metal, because of metal music, and I want to fucking pay back. One of the big things that I do think of, Chris, every day, and it's something that I started in Jersey, but I haven't completed it, and now I finally have the help. I just signed to new management, too, which is pretty... Oh, congrats. Yeah, thanks, man.

I have never signed management papers. I know you have. Whoa, that's awesome. Yeah, but I've never signed and had an attorney look at papers. But one of the big things that I want to do in my time on earth is I want to start a charity called Head Bank for Science. And I want to give back to graduating seniors who are poor, who have excellent grades, who are going into the medical or science professions, and who live. love the fuck out of heavy metal music. You meet those four qualifications. I want to hook up

scholarships every year for students. You know, start off with one student and then have multiple students and, you know, do I want to do a $3,333 scholarship award to, you know, as many students as I can and encourage people like, you know, like, look like me, you know, that were fucking poor, that were smart, loved metal and was going into science and the medical. feel but I want to reward them I want to get people fucking fuck yeah I wanted to do that but now I really want to do that because there's this thing

that I can win so yeah man I get emotional man I'm talking about that because I want to fucking help people I think one of your best qualities is how much you give back like you may not think about it but again like the 20 plus years that I think that's

what's been a big key to your longevity very real is that the amount of bands that you gave a shot, us were on that list. Like, the amount that you gave back the years and hours that you gave them back and you're still doing it, I think that's a big part in your success and why you're here and why you're still here.

It's consistency. Yes, it is, dude. I mean, that's what it is. I mean, because in the beginning, I met bands and they probably thought I was fucking insane or too hyper or this guy's not real. A lot of people would say that, you know, and I would know that famous musicians

that I was meeting for the first time that I idolized. And I was so excited to be around these guys because I fucking grew up worshipping them. And all of a sudden now I'm fucking in a position to help them, they would think that I was fucking too much. You know what I mean? Like this fucking guy is fucking too much.

Because I did. You know, looking back at those early days, I was fucking really fired up. And I'd fucking nah, nah, nah, nah. And people were like, whoa! You know, over the years, I've learned to calm down. and to be more pro.

And, you know, you learn as you go. You learn as you go. But I think that for me, showing that passion and that fire then, and then showing that same shit now for these artists and keep, every time they would see me, that's when these dudes like Vinnie Paul and these guys that I fucking love, that's when they were like, oh, fucking Jose, I love you. You know, I love, I really love you, dude. You know, Dave Mustaine, these dudes when they're saying shit like that publicly, too,

saying, I love you, Jose. Like, whoa, wow, you know, James Hetfield gives you shoutouts. It's like, whoa, what the fuck?

Are you serious, dude? So that's the shit, man. Like, that's, that's everything. But it's that consistency, too. You know,

when Heffield first met me, he actually heard me on the radio before he even met me. So he knew who I was when he met me, which was so fucking cool. But, you know, other musicians that didn't meet me

like the Slayer guy. You know, when I first met those dudes, they were like, man, this dude's fucking, you know, slip-knock, man, this fucking dude's fucking crazy. You know, but then they were like, okay, well, at least he's crazy for us, you know, at least he's crazy but on our side. You know, at least, oh, he's still there? Oh, we're going to go see Jose? Oh, we're going to do an interview with Jose, you know, oh, okay. And then it was, then it just became just so normal and I would see them and then they became friends, you know. When my idols become my friends,

that's the ultimate thank you that I feel the world is giving me. To be able to be friends with Vinnie Paul and to be friends with like Kirk Hammett and fucking Dave Mustaine and these dudes that I fucking love, Chuck Billy, you know, Joey Belladonna, you know, Max Cavalera,

you know, Jonathan Davis. You know, when these dudes are friends and shit, it's like, what? The fuck? You know? It blows like Tom Mariah. Like that can't, he came over for fucking tacos and spicy halapeno margaritas. Like, what the fuck is happening?

You know? So Dave Lombardo came over. Vinnie Paul came over a bunch of times for fucking tacos and Mexican food in my house. And hung out with my mom in Jersey and stuff. And she was so happy to me, Vinny, because she knew how much her fucking miho loves Pantera. And all of a sudden, the drummer from Pantera is in our home. And my mom was visiting from Arizona. And she was like, hi, Vinny.

Aye, much gusto. Hi. You know, and hugging her. And I was like, oh, my God. This is going to fucking make me cry. You know, my mom was hugging Vinnie Paul and laughing and smiling, meeting Vinny Paul because she knew how much I love them. And so she was like, wow, my son loves you.

You know, and being able to tell that to Vinny, Vinny was like, I know I love your son. I'm like, what the fuck is happening right now, you know? Yeah. It's crazy. That's crazy. It's already a beyond surreal moment. And then you can include your parents that's seen you grow up, loving these people, idolizing these people.

Now they're meeting them. It's a special time, man. It's priceless. I mean, your family is Catholic, I assume. So did they freak out with you and metal music when you were a kid or were they cool with it? Because when I was growing up, it was satanic and it was blamed. But I'm older than you. Yeah.

So I was in a different generation. See, you said you're a 90s new metal kid. That was my second wave. You know, I was already, I'm 44. Yeah. So I was already fucking, I mean, in the 80s, Bon Jovi, Def Leopard, Skid Row, Pantara, Metallica, Testament, Sepultura, you know, Megadeth, Anthrax. You know, those were my fucking big, and then the second big wave was, you know,

then the corns and the death tones and the systems and I was like oh my god dude what was that life for you I never had I'm only used to my life was the only one wave you had two waves yeah I had two I had two waves well then you can count the next wave

is the Lamb of Gods and the slip knots and stuff like that too but yeah I mean yeah I mean I'm still an I'm still an 80s fucking dude I love hair metal I love Skid Row I love Twisted Sister I love Motley crew I love rat

you know and people that make fun of that shit I mean that's like stupid you know I always say why would you talk shit on that I mean you used to like that stuff you know it to us old folks you know you used to like it now you don't because it's like what happened you know what why did

why did you have a falling out with that music you know yeah it's so stupid that people want to just hate on shit but yeah I love I love that but yeah but my parents thought that the music my mom was very scared of the Satanism and, you know, growing my hair, I wanted to have long hair.

I wanted to be a fucking metal head. And they were like, this is bad. And then there was all the talk show host saying that your kids listening to metal, they're going to become criminals, drug addicts, dropouts. Everything was blamed on metal except for the upbringing from the parents. You know, it wasn't their responsibility how my kid turned out. It's Judas's fucking priest. They're the fucking fault that my kid came out.

this way. It's their fault. So it's so easy to blame others. But imagine like that nowadays I have two teenage daughters. I can't even fucking imagine blaming, you know, it was fucking little Uzi Verde that he fucking made you into this fucking awful person. It's like you can't, music doesn't fucking do that to people. You know, music doesn't make them into fucking bad people, you know, so they're bad people, you know, already. It's not the fucking music, man. So it's funny how our music was so

blamed back in the day and now it's like fucking candy you know like nobody fucking cares like you know the gruesome most goryous death metal is fucking fun and cool you know it's like almost like rated PG in a way it's like not but the shit that

you know Cardi B and stuff and others do I mean that shit people freak out over like oh my God you know whopping everything and the performance on whatever it was like oh my God people were freaking out but you know It used to be like metal music made people freak out, but now it's like it's candy.

It's cool. It's accepted, you know, which is cool. I love that. And we've worked hard to be, to not have that stigma on us anymore. But that's how I grew up was, you know, that kind of 80s stuff. And then the 90s, yeah, my mom and parents were like, oh, he's fucked already. You know, he's already so into metal. Like, there's nothing that we can do about it anymore.

Well, well, you had a good dynamic because your parents, part I didn't like that. You were listening to heavy music. However, you were, which I don't think a lot of people know about you, is you were actually legitimately smart. You were going in college. You were, you were trying to be like a pharmacist. So you, so you had like, as your parents couldn't really put too much on you because you were like a straight-aid kid. Yes. Right. That's exactly what I wanted to do was like say, fuck you. Like to everybody, you know, because I had long hair and I was a metal head and I was a big stoner, one of the biggest stoners in my high school and people just didn't really think that I would really do anything,

you know, I don't know. But then in my sophomore year in high school, I was like, this is easy. I can do this. This is easy. I just got to fucking try. I just got to try. I got to get into it and I got to try. And that's when I, and my junior year in high school, my high school chemistry teacher, Mr. Thorpe, he was so fucking cool. And I loved how we taught chemistry. He made me excited about it. And I was like, I'm going to do something in the chemistry. And then I was like, oh, I'm going to be a pharmacist. That's fucking super cool. You know what influenced me to be a pharmacist?

The movie The Serpent and the Rainbow. Super and the Rainbow. I never seen that movie. A Serpent and the Rainbow by West Craven. It's a horror movie from the late 80s, early 90s, and it was about a real-life zombie powder that people in Haiti would use, and they would blow it on people. and these people would become zombies

and they would bury them because their life lines were all shut off. But they were still alive. But they couldn't tell from detecting it. They were sort of paralyzed but still alive. And they would bury these people and people were buried alive. That's the movie.

It's fucking pretty cool. But when I, at the end of the movie, there was this thing that came up and it said this is a real substance that's studied by three. toxicologists and all and it was this cool little you know thing at the end of the of the movie and I was like oh my god it's fucking real what and then that was it I was like I want to do I want to do that and but yeah I straight A's I had the third most amount of scholarships on the night that we

graduated out of my senior class of 220 students I got the third most amount of academic scholarships so I would go up to the fucking podium with my long ass fucking Indian hair and fucking, you know, get these awards, man. I got a lot full ride to University of Arizona and then I went there and chemistry majored in and then I went to pharmacy

school in Tennessee to become a doctor. So, but I started college radio when I was a freshman in college and then when I went to Tennessee I got a job at the FM rock station the big active rock station there and that's where I started a metal

show and then a year later I won a award for Best Metal DJ in the country and then that's when I got offers to work in the industry so that's when my brain sort of switched gears and all of a sudden there was this

voice saying oh dude like you can fucking be involved with metal whoa you know so that's where my brain kind of went but there was no satellite radio there was no serious there was nothing at that time so but yeah if it wasn't for my education

And if it wasn't for any of that shit, I would never be here. So that's how important that Head Bank for Science Scholarship Award is, you know, because that was what I think can make people have these experiences. And it might not be what you're going to get your degree in, but what if you went to college and you did something else or you met somebody or you did something and all of a sudden you're doing something completely different. But if it wasn't for that step, you would have never gotten to that other step, you know? So that's, I feel like that kind of shit's so important.

You know, especially because school is not that hard. You just have to apply yourself. You have to study. You have to pay attention. You have to sit in the front of the class. I would sit in the front of every one of my fucking classes. That sounds so terrifying in me. Everyone.

Everyone, dude. Every college, high school, every graduate school, every fucking time. In the front. Sit in the front. because you can't fuck off and you're right there in front of the teacher so he's looking at you or she's looking at you and you're like

fucking boom boom boom back here you can fuck off you can do things up there you can't and then plus my eyes were bad so I would like to and I'd wear glasses but I'd like to be just to see far away so I would just be closer just for that too but again it would just

it may it's yeah it's a nerdy move but it's it's a fucking it's a surefire way to pay attention you know it is I mean if you sit in the fucking front row you are going to pay attention more you're going to learn more

and you're going to do better I fucking promise you I promise you sit in the fucking front row sit in the front row you will always in school you will always do better always and I did that forever and I would correct

the professor when he would do wrong chemical equations You know, I'd had my fucking testament soles of black shirt on and I'd be in the fucking front row at 150 students in this big lecture hall I'd be right in the fucking front and he'd be the fucking Dr. Harris

at University of Arizona he wrote me a recommendation to go to pharmacy school and he was doing equations on the board and I'd be like Dr. Harris actually you're missing a carbon and there should have been a bond to the oxygen, whatever

and he was like where, what? show me, smart ass, and I'd get up there, and I'd fucking do it, correct it, and he'd be like, smart ass, all right, all right, sit down, and then I would sit down, but I'd be like, fuck yeah. But that's what also gave me the confidence to get up in front of people and to not be scared, to talk, to debate, to fucking be open, you know, that's the kind of shit that that led me to being in front of 10,000 people, you know, at festivals or stadium shows and feel comfortable,

you know, nervous but comfortable. Yeah. You know, being on the radio, doing live television, doing whatever the fuck. It was that sort of stuff that led me to being not scared to be in front of people. So, yeah, man, it goes fucking back to school. It goes back to school.

I wasn't majoring in communications. I wasn't majoring in, in, in, in broadcast, you know, journalism, nothing. It was fucking chemistry, dude. I was a fucking organic chemistry nerd. I had straight A's in organic chemistry, which is the hardest class

when you're an undergraduate, when you're going to graduate school. They make it the hardest class. It's called the weed out class because they want people to fucking fail. So they weed out all the fucking people that aren't strong enough to go to that next level. That's impressive.

But that's what you have to fucking kick ass in. That's what you have to, You have to kill it there. Or if you're going to go to this level, you've got to fucking kill it there. You know, so that's the type of attitude and discipline, you know, that, you know, I've tried to build and I've tried to teach my daughters as well. You know, it's a different fucking age for them. They've grew up in a different way. And, you know, I was super, super poor growing up on the Mexican border.

Super poor. You know, my dad made $30,000 a year, dude, when I was a little. a senior in high school. That's how much he made. And I remember that, yeah, it's fucking, my mom didn't work. So that's what we made. But he had VA benefits, and, you know, he was an older veteran Korean War Army.

But I remember filling out all my FASA, the financial aid stuff for schools every semester you'd have to fill that shit out, you know, became a pro at that. But I remember my dad having to, you know, having to use my my parents' financials, right? That's what students have to use

in order to get financial aid. And they would see me with my fucking grades, you know, Mexicano, fucking poorest shit. That'd be like, oh, well, this motherfucker right here, you know what I mean? So, and I think standing out, another advice that I would give to any student or anybody in life.

And what I'm trying to drill to my daughters right now is standing out on paper. You know, you have to stand out even on paper. Like, that's why I named my daughters cool names and I say use your fucking middle name when you're applying for something. Eva Marisol Mengen. You know, Eva Mangon sounds kind of, you don't know what that is. Eva Marisol Mengen.

Now what? You're Latina. You know, people look at that shit and they're, oh, fucking, oh yeah. Maya Maria. Oh, okay. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, just you got to look good on paper. You got to stand out even in essays and applications.

And you can't just say yes, no. Yes, I have some experience. You know, like, you got to fucking use awesome words. I would use, like, exciting buzzwords when I would write. Same shit that I do now for fucking Instagram captions, you know. I try to write cool shit and try to tell a story and tell something cool. But I was the same way when I was a kid. I would write, you know, but it was essays and scholarship applications,

and why you deserve this award? And why should we give you this scholarship? And I'd fill out fucking 50 of these things. and I would fucking, you have to stand out on paper. Like, you can't just be like, oh, you know, I fucking play guitar and bass and, you know, at football and blah. I didn't say that I was a stoner on these applications, but I would now, you know.

But, yeah, man, I would just try to stand out with cool buzzwords and passion words, things that. Passion words. Things that people don't use, you know, normally. Yeah. So, because people want to be safe. Fuck being safe. That's not gonna...

That doesn't work for anybody. It does. I guess I take that back. It does work for some people. But I think that you have to just fucking... Just again, wear your passion on your sleeve. If you're really that way, then be that way. You know, everywhere.

On paper, video, fucking radio. Be that way. If you're just super... Other way, but that's the way you are. You still have to stand out, you know, but you have to do your best to stand out on paper. or whatever, but I think you just got to

fucking be loud and proud, man, and do that shit, so. I agree, and being loud and proud is a very scary thing. It is. Like, when you try to put yourself out there, so I definitely admire you, you just have, like, this natural way about you. You're just going to,

you're going to put yourself out there, and that's it. And it seems like you don't even think about the consequences of it, and I'm very jealous of that. You're like, you just have this natural, to me, from outside you have, like, this natural, you could put yourself out there. Yeah, I don't know, I don't, but what are the consequences? You know, what, when am I going to get made fun of, mess up? People make fun of my eyebrows, my pants.

People will make fun of fucking me all the time. It doesn't matter, you know, people are going to make fun of me no matter fucking what, you know. If I post up something fucking cool, it'll be like, look at this dude's eyebrows, you know, or look at this dude's wearing eyeliner. I've never fucking wore an eyeliner ever in my life. People fucking say that I wear makeup all the time. And it's like, okay, no, but people are who made fun of me. But what are the consequences of being yourself, being loud and passionate? They're going to say he's loud and passionate? You know, what can be the bad?

If I'm spitting bad shit, negative shit, then yes, then that can be fucking or lying or fibbing or fucking exaggerating. Then that's, that can come back and be consequential. But I think that if you're, again, just like just, you. You can't lose. Like, I was telling my friend, he was having some marriage problems, and I've been married 20 years, dude, and I have two teenage daughters. And, you know, you have to realize that you're in last place. If you're a guy and you're a family man, you're in last place.

You know, it's not the same anymore. The olden days of where the man is the king and, you know, if the man has to be happy. No, no, no. That is not the fucking case anymore, ever. It's the fucking the girl rules everything. The women rule. Women rule the house. You're in last place.

No matter what the fuck you do, you're in last place. But it's when you start realizing that, it just things become easier. And so when I go up to my teenage daughters and I say, hey, babe, hi. And I try talking to them, being nice to them and trying to hug them or kiss them. And they're like, push me away. And like, stop. Get away. Let me alone.

Oh, just stop. And I know that I came in loving and doing something loving, but they, the reaction is something completely not, you know, and I'm like, but walking out of there, heartbroken a little bit, you're like, but I did the right thing, you know, I love them. I went in with love. Do you know what I'm saying? So I'm not, what am I, I know that I'm doing in the right. I know that I'm in the right. So I like to be in the right. And then I'm like, there's nothing that can be wrong with that. If I'm in the, I know that I'm doing the right thing, genuinely doing the right thing

trying to love my daughter and say I love you babe what's up how was your day tell me about your school you know and then it's like but I did the right thing you did the right thing

I did the right thing even though I didn't you know they didn't give me love back or they called me name or whatever it's like I went in there and I did the right thing

you know and even in any sort of debate or you know argument with your spouse or thing It's like you say the right thing, but they may not think, but it's like, I know I'm saying the right thing. You know, but maybe at that time, you know, someone doesn't hear it that way, but I know that it was the right thing to say. You know, the right, you know, honest, genuine thing to, loving thing to say. Because you can be honest in a dickhead way too. Yeah, true.

Okay. But in a loving, you know, compassionate way, you know, presenting it. And if you did it that way, then you're always. Okay, even though if it wasn't received that way. So, dude, you're in last place, always. Forever and never amen. Okay, wait, as long as our women are happy. Yeah.

I think that's what matters the most. Dude, I mean, because if I'm in a bad mood, no one gives a shit. If mom's in the bad mood, everybody gives a shit. Everybody. I mean, everybody. The dog, the girls. The dog. Yeah.

The dog knows. The dog knows. Knows her energy, knows her voice. knows when she gets a little upset he's out of here it's the end it's that it's so it's this energy it's this energy boom and and

it's just women rule the world happy wife happy happy life man yeah my my sister got married and her best friend or maid of honor did did had a speech you know the speech my daughters were young and then she went up there

she's from super mexicana her name's Karina she was like everybody got super quiet happy wife happy life boom and just fucking drop the mic and walked away like drop the mic and then people were like

and then my daughters were like what just happened they were so young but now but they remember that line so specifically happy wife happy life I mean it applies it really does apply man you know you girls set the tone you know and yeah we just have to you know sometimes use that thermostat as best as

as sensitive as we can slowly uh but they you know they definitely set the temperature man so absolutely it's uh it's basting that you have like both sides like you know when they're upset and there's like this powerful energy you're like whoa yeah like but when but the way they improve your life it's just unreal man i mean the girls have made me cooler you know If I wasn't with them and I wouldn't be, I think, as cool. I wouldn't, I don't know. I don't know if there would be so much love. I don't know.

I don't know. I, because this is all I know. But I know that without them, I'm not that same person. You know, they make me cooler. They make me into a better person, you know, with anything. You know, they would make me even better from a business perspective, from an outside source looking in, you know, anything. They would make me look fucking better.

anybody to anything so it's like you know somebody's like you know wants to do business with you big business and they're like oh meet my you know my wife and my kids and they're like oh shit oh shit yo you raised these girls and oh they're oh no oh yeah well you know what let's boom you know so but if i was just some dude i don't you know i don't know i don't know i just think they they're they're an asset of mine they're they're part of my package do you know that that's what makes me fucking stand out, you know, too. Again, in this fucking world, you know, being so public with my family since the very beginning, you know, other people aren't like that with their families and they're not

such an open book. And I respect their privacy and how, you know, my family's been very in the public eye since the very beginning. You know, my daughters have been on the air and videos and everything. And, you know, my wife has been on the radio and just everything. Like, they've been so, so listeners. think they've grown up with them and with me and I've grown up with them too

with the listeners and stuff. They're like when you were just starting you didn't have kids. It's like, you know? So it's like now they're 18 years old and 16 and 15 and almost 18. So but I like that. They've been so public with me.

Again, I think that makes me stand out in a cooler way than other people in my position. Yeah. It's like you were bringing, you were bringing the ultimate version a vulnerable bringing people into your life and showing like your family like this is me

this is all of me actually it's it's very it's very personal it's something that I've I've even seen just Howard Stern as an idol of mine what he does on the radio he's just very personal he's very personal and I feel like that that's my approach

like that's what I feel like I need to do I don't need to act I don't need to pretend I don't need to be a character I just need to be personal, just be myself. And that's what's been, that's what's, it's worked, you know, being super authentic. And being personal and authentic includes, you know, the dog, the family, everything, you know. And so, and making them very public.

But again, I feel like they add to my, to my value, you know, they add to my value. Yeah. Yep. How was it for you first becoming a dad? Was that scary for you? I was excited. I wanted to be a young dad, Chris. My dad was 49 when I was born.

So he was in, but I was his seventh kid. And then my younger sister was his eighth kid. And so he had six kids with an American lady. And then he met my mom in Mexico. And my mom was like 18 years younger than he was. And then I was born in 77 and my sister in 79. But growing up, he was an older dude. And so when I was in high school and junior high, I mean, all the time, he was older than everybody else's dad.

You know, everybody thought he was my grandpa. And, you know, he didn't, you know, we didn't play sports. Like, we didn't do any of that stuff. But he taught me nerd shit. You know, he taught me nerdy things, you know, state capitals. And, you know, stuff like that. We would always do state capital games. games. We'd be driving and we would, you know,

I used to be really fucking good at that. I smoked a lot of wheat since then. But yeah, my dad was older and I always said to myself, I want to be young. I want to be a young dad. You know, I just want, I don't want my, I don't want to feel, I don't want my kid to feel like I felt. And even though that was so stupid, I realized as I got older, how dumb I was as a kid, the way I was to my dad,

and I'd be, like, embarrassed that he was so old. I'd be like, Dad, just park over here. I'm going to walk. You know, shit like that, you know, I was so stupid. But, you know, I was embarrassed, so I always knew. So when I finally met the girl, I knew that this girl was going to, you know, have my kids. You know, I was hoping that she was going to be cool with that.

So, but when I met Melissa, I was like, oh, this girl's, this is the, I knew, this is, this is it. Because we got engaged September and we were engaged by November. So two months. So we started dating September of 2000 and in Thanksgiving of 2000, I asked her parents to marry her. So in July of 2001, we got married. It's beautiful. So, and our anniversary, on our night of our anniversary, that's when we came back home

we went to dinner in New York City July 28th, 2003 and we came back to Jersey City and it was like midnight she had a glass of wine and we were laying down in our bed and as soon as she laid down in her bed her water broke

and this was right after midnight on our anniversary so Maya was born the day after our anniversary, our second anniversary so but being a dad I wanted it dude I wanted it I wanted it. I was excited. I wasn't scared.

I didn't think that I could afford a baby, but I don't think anybody ever, I mean, most of the times they're not ready to, you know, you're like, when you have a kid, I think people always wait, oh, we got to have money, we got to have enough money, and we got to, let's build up more.

Like, you'll fucking make it work. It'll work out. Like, I knew it was going to work out. I didn't have any fucking money, but I just knew that we'll make it work. I didn't get nervous about it at all. But I feel I hear from a lot of, young couples and parents and people

or not parents that want to be parents that are like, we're not ready, we're going to wait, which is fine. But if you're waiting financial reasons, then I don't know if that's the right reason to wait, you know. But that's, again, that, that, that, I don't, you know, poor people have kids, you know, and nothing happens. They raise awesome kids, you know what I mean? Like, it's not like they're going to be worse off, man, you know?

So, you, I don't know. But I know I've just heard that a lot. But no, I just didn't think of it. that man I just wanted to I just wanted to be a dad I wanted to be a fucking dad I really did and then and then our second one I was like oh another one oh okay and then I smoked so much weed I knew it was going to be a girl and it was a girl and so because most hard core stoners that smoke all their lives only have chicks when they have kids if you stop smoking weed and you break you shut up no but you had your kid a long time with my friend Sonny no way but

I mean, if you smoke consistently all the time and you don't stop, you know, and you just smoke, you're gonna have, you're fucking, you don't have any dude eggs anymore. You're only gonna have chicks. Whoa. Yeah, this is science, bro. That sounds like some bro science. Yeah, I mean, you can disagree with me, but if you look, if you look back, look back in history and, you know, if you ask people, I mean, people might be like, oh, well, I stop for a month or something. so and you know you're not part of the

test anymore because consistent fucking smoking weed since you were I was since I was 13 years old 13? 13. Wow. Yes sir. Yeah, 8th grade. Eighth grade. Yeah, man. I fucking love weed man. What? What? Dude, what made you start

that journey? My drummer my older drummer, Mark Michael Grubb rest in peace brother. My Michael Grub was three years older than me and we smoked out of he cut off the tip of of the hose of a garden hose

and then we packed the screen and we fucking on next to his on the side of his house and that was my first time smoking weed out of a garden hose yeah but I loved to do

I just loved we would just smoke weed and jam I mean that's all I've been jamming guitar bass since I was in fourth grade, fifth grade really but I've been playing a long time so we we would just fucking smoke smoking jam, smoke a jam, all the time. So I just, but I just never,

I never stopped. You mean, maybe bronchitis, you know, you have to stop for a week or so, but then I'd fucking do it again. But that was the only time I, I never stopped and been like, oh, I'm gonna take a break. Like I never, oh, but if I was sick, I had whooping cough, fucking,

that was scariest shit, man. About 15 years ago, 16 years ago, I had whooping cough. I was hospitalized for a few days. What is that? When you, it's like a thing that you're vaccinated against. It's when you're your bronchial tubes, instead of expanding, they stay shut. And you make this, and you make this fucking noise because you can't breathe.

And it was really scary. So I had whooping cough, man. But, yeah, it was fucking. So I stopped smoking weed during that time. Just for it was probably like two weeks or something, man. But yeah, man, no. But yeah, yeah, any real hardcore stunners going to have a chick. Yep, lesson learned.

There you go. Coming from the pharmacist and chemist. I mean, it's not really proven, but for the most part, if you look back in your history, if you ask your friends, family members, and if they're super honest about their weed intake, they have a chick. Wow. Are you someone that when you smoke cannabis, do you, are, does that help you focus? Or what is your personal reaction to me?

You have people that are paranoid, super introspective, these people are focused, if people get lazy. What is your category of that? I do shit, Chris, when I smoke. I'm always doing shit. I never smoke and not do anything ever. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't ever have that.

Let's just smoke and hang out. Like, I don't do that. I'm a very active stoner. Does it help me focus? I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if it helps, but I know it hurts sometimes when I'm super baked. And like, you know, I'll go out and I'll walk Rocky Dimebag in the park in the morning

because I'm on at 8 in the morning on the radio for 8 to 9 p.m. West Coast time. So then I get up and I walk Rocky at around 8.30 and I'll go smoke in the park. And I'll come back and real strong joint sometimes and I'll come back and I'll, you know, right away just start to talk on the radio. And then I'm like, oh, fuck, hold on, hold on, you know, and then I have to like, okay. All right, now go, you know, and then. So, but I, I, I, I, I, I, it's medicine, man. It's just sort of something that I've always done for everything, you know, whether it's

washing the dishes or interviewing Slayer. And like, I fucking smoke weed. If I'm going to the grocery store or doing the interview with Chris Garza, like I smoke weed. Like if I'm going to anywhere or doing something, I smoke weed. But I'm always doing something. Cleaning, working.

Yeah, it's really non-stop. Last night on Friday night, dude, from like 8.30 till about midnight, I cleaned the fuck out of the kitchen. I took everything, I got high, and I took everything out of the refrigerator.

And I cleaned the I cleaned everything. I cleaned the counters. I cleaned the sink. I swept. I mopped. The floors, dude. High.

Took three smoke breaks, but I fucking did all that shit. So, yeah, man, I like to do stuff, man. So I like to do home improvement projects. I love to get high and hang shit, you know, or to fix something or put up drywall or paint or vacuum. or vacuum you know

I'm always doing something dude I can't I don't know I just can't see my family's never just walked in and saw me

playing video games ever never I've never just spent a whole unless super hungover different story

but you know I can count those on a few hands actually but no but I just I don't I don't want my family to come in

and see me not doing something you know like I feel I got to be doing something. I don't know why. I just feel like I got to fucking clean. I got to organize.

I got to just do something, man. Good or bad as that is, you know what I'm saying? Because if I see my wife washing dishes and she fucking is a horrible dishwasher. And she'll just fucking, you know, take stuff fucking real quick. And then fucking quick rinse, like a fast rinse. And then she'll just, and I'm like, and I still see soap all over the fucking cup. And the soap is pouring off and she puts it in the dryer and the dish. dryer and I see all I just fucking can't stand it.

I'm like, oh my God, please let me do the dishes, please. You know? And then we'll see like, you know, lipstick stains on cups that she washed and, you know, sauce on the plate that she, you know, I'm like, oh my God. Like, let me just fucking clean. So, yeah, I just get real high and just fucking clean, dude. So I don't know, man. I'm fucking weird, man.

You are one in one. Yeah. But I also love working out. I get high and I fucking love lifting weights, man. Oh my gosh, you're one of those fucking freaks. Yeah, dude. I love fucking lifting weights. I smoke.

I smoke and I lift weights. And I take also a pre-workout and stuff like that. So I get it. And then I take the protein afterwards with my weed. Yeah, man. What the fuck. Yep, yep, yep. I mean, for everything.

Chris, everything. I smoke for everything. Yeah. I smoke for everything. But I don't smoke fat blunts or massive quantities. I don't go through, you know, ounces. ounces and fucking like in a week. You know, I know my friend Sonny and shit, he'll fucking be it by an ounce

and then a week later, oh, I'm done, boy. I'm like, God damn. You know, but for me, I baby it, dude. I baby my shit. You know, I'll smoke one joint. I'll smoke it in thirds. Do you know what I'm saying? Some people will fucking, that'll be like, what?

But I'll be like, strong shit, man. I'll fucking smoke it in thirds or at least half. I'll smoke half. I'll put it in a tube and I'll smoke the other half, you know, in the evening. You know, and then I use my vase. pen in between. So I kind of I have a routine and stuff too man but yeah I smoke all the time

dude all the fucking time. Wow I love how you always go against like whatever stereotype it is you're always against it. Yeah I love that. I have done that since high school big time because they thought that I was in such a big fucking stoner. I was a famous

high school stoner kid. Me and like two other friends were the guys that got every fucking body high for the first time. We were we were those fucking guys. I was that guy. I was that guy for all ages, you know? I mean, we did, we had seniors smoking with us and we were freshmen. I mean, everybody. We were the fucking big time stoners. And the teachers knew that. We smelled like we

everybody knew that. Councilors, everybody. But, but I was like, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you. And that's what I've done for my kids too. And I've showed them, you know, look what, you know, what also look what a stoner can do kind of. I'm very open with my kids about marijuana and about the medicine and about everything about it and they're so cool man.

One of their, my oldest daughter, her first book I ever bought her was this book called It's Just a Plant and it was a kid's book on marijuana. Really? Yeah, and it was really fucking sweet and it was an awesome book about just, it's just a plant, honey. You know, but it's medicine and it can be used for this and this and this and it's just

a plant honey it's just a plant it's a plant it's not like fucking cocaine where you're fucking there's people making that shit it's a plant it's a plant you just fucking use it it's a plant it's medicine you know

it shouldn't be on this uh schedule one where it is right now with crack and fucking heroin and cocaine is in the same category that's why it's illegal federal because it's on a Schedule 1. If they just move it to a Schedule 2

or even a Schedule 3, Schedule 1 means it has no medicinal use at all. A Schedule 1 drug. Whoa. No medicinal use at all. That's insane. And weed is in that category right now. Really?

That's... Really. After all these fucking years, really. Really. And so, move it to a Schedule 2 or 3. It's not... When people say legally, It's not decriminalize it. That shouldn't be what we're saying. De-schedule it. Change the scheduling is the proper language. That's the easy thing. That's what, that's what, you know, Biden, please. Somebody fucking, make it a schedule two. Make it a schedule three. As soon as that happens, boom. It's fucking legal everywhere. You don't have to make it legal. Make it a schedule two or a three. It's fine. It has medicinal properties. It has value. So, and look at how much all these states are making in marijuana sales.

I mean, look at Colorado is the fucking blueprint for this and how well they're doing. And all that money, all that extra money that they're making billions and billions in Colorado is going to schools. It's going to public infrastructure, you know, roads and fucking shit for the communities, for the neighborhoods. Really? but fucking all these other fucking states and really how much money can these states bring in you know to help their people not their pockets but the people you know real shit to help man so there's a whole thing man it's a whole another yeah it's a whole but i i wrote so many papers on on marijuana and medical marijuana and my what i wanted to go into as a pharmacist was you know a combination of westernized medicine and holistic medicine and combining those things too because I feel like healing of the mind, body, and soul is how really people are going to get better.

It's not just giving somebody a band-aid. You know, here, take these fucking pills for the rest of your life. You know, certain cases, I understand that it has to be what it is, but, you know, it's so easy for doctors to prescribe fucking people medicine, and that fucks them up more

than fucking weed and all that shit, man. It's awful. So I was trying to, you know, come at it from the approach of a more holistic approach, you know? You know, more of a hippie thing, but that's because I fucking love weed. And weed has always been, like, my guiding light as far as, like, you know, that. And even with the, that movie Serp in the Rainbow and marijuana and the chemical nature of that, of that plan.

So, yeah, man, it's so fascinating and all that shit. But it's so ass-backwards, too, how long it's taking, you know, to even get to this level. But I'm glad that 18 states now have decriminalized it. You know, I think there's over 40 states now. I think maybe I have some sort of medical program at least. You know, so, but that means you have to have some serious fucking medical illness, you know, and some real doctors to prove that and stuff. It's not like going to Venice Beach back in the days and getting a license to get fucking weed.

When I first came to California, that's what I remember. I was so excited to fucking go do that. but now it's so cool that we have legit businesses that you can go into and get good quality fucking, good fucking weed. You know, and then you're helping the taxes

that they're fucking taking are crazy. That's going to the city. It's going to somebody. Yeah. You know, so I hope it's helping, you know, eventually I hope that helps schools.

You know, I hope that helps, you know, the shit that people really need. Schools and roads and fucking, you know, parks and that kind of stuff. Really, they're going to help the community

instead of fucking building golf courses and shit like that. I don't know where that money goes, but, you know, I know it's going somewhere. Yeah. You know, I see my taxes on my dispensary receipts. They're fucking high. So, but I'm happy to pay it, man.

I'm happy to pay it because it's, you know, it's helping, it's fucking, it's all cyclical. It's all helping each other, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it's all current of good vibes. Yeah. You know, and wheat is, for most people, it is pure positive, man. Yeah.

I love it. I'm not like a huge smoker, but every time I do, it's like, this is great. Yeah, I love it, man. I love it. I mean, I told my wife three things when I first met her on our first date. I told her three, I got buzzed. It was sushi, and I was drinking sake, and I was getting buzzed, and I fucking really liked her already. And I was, I'm going to tell you three things.

and this is the three things about me. You know, heavy fucking metal all the time. I am poor as shit. My family has no money, and I have no money. And my third one is I smoke weed every single day. And if I were to ever be with somebody that didn't allow me to smoke or got mad at me or told me to fucking not smoke weed, I'd be like, I couldn't fucking be with that. Those are the three things that I told her.

I was like, if you're cool with these three things, then we're cool. But if you're not, I don't know. And she was cool. She said, oh, it's cool. Yeah. So to this day, she's never said, why are you smoking weed? You know, why are you listening to the metal?

She's never fucking said, though. Never, never. Because that's my fucking, that's my life, too. I mean, it's two of those things that are super important. Well, I didn't tell her tequila, you know, on that thing. I didn't say, I didn't say nothing about that.

You know, I said fucking metal, weed, and I'm poor. You know, what's up? What's up, girl? Oh, for it, I like you a lot. Don't you want to upgrade to this boy, this hunk? And I dressed bad. My eyebrows were a fucking unibrow.

You know, she helped me a lot. Yeah, women improve your life. Yeah, dude. I mean, we were all wearing Jinkos at the time. When our first lunch date, I had a sweater vest, a fucking sweater vest, and that's all I had on, you know, with my fucking Pantera tattoo out. That a boy.

Yeah, man, I was fucking like, what's up, what's up? And then, it's a funny story. Our very first lunch date when I was wearing this green sweater vest with fucking Jinko shorts. Fucking big ass, wide, long JNCO shorts, right? Oh, my God. I think I was probably wearing flip-flops too, okay, dude? Real fucking bad.

And I was eating, I was sharing my sack lunch with Melissa. We were sitting at the fountain in Washington Square, park and we were at this fountain and I was eating my baby carrots that I had in my I packed my own lunch I would pack my own lunch I'm a fucking super nerd Chris and this was you know 20 years

ago 21 years ago and as I was eating the carrot Melissa had like a sleeveless shirt on and her arm was out and I got this carrot and I it was slimy carrot you know I didn't put it in my mouth but it was already slimy you know what I mean baby carrots are little slimy yeah and I rubbed it on her

I got like this and I rubbed it like on her arm and down her arm like a sexy move you know and then she fucking she fucking got the fucking carrot and she fucking threw it she was like don't ever fucking do that again and I was like I'm sorry like I was like what the fuck she still makes fun of me to this day dude and I tried to do that move in the last six months again 20 years after and she got mad at me again for doing it. I thought she thought it would be cute, you know? She got fucking pissed

and I fucking rub the slimy carrot on her arm, man. So I don't know if that's the move or what, man. It could be a move though. Boy, if we're going on 19, 20, 20 years. 20 years, Mary, this July. Yeah, man. That's a big deal. Yeah, it is a fucking crazy ass

good deal. It's also really special that when you meet a female that they meet you when you start dating when you have nothing. And it's really special, man. And then she, like, sees you come up. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, she says that she owns like half of me by.

I didn't think we'll ever know. So, yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, dude. She is, I mean, yeah, she saw all of it, man. She was there when I got my job at Sirius. You know, she was there when nobody gave a shit about Cyrus. That's what people would call it back in the day. She was there when Howard Stern joined us.

She was there when that fucking blew up. She was there when we merged with XM in 2008. becoming one giant satellite platform. You know, she was there for everything, man. Everything. And so, yeah, she saw all that. But at the same time, you know, she doesn't really, it's not like she's like celebrating those events.

You know what I mean? She's like, but it also keeps you humble when your family doesn't think you're a big deal. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know, I mean, they do, but they don't. Like my kids don't fucking care. you know i'll be like oh hey i just smoked out with machine gun kelly oh all right you know isn't that cool like now it's actually cool but when i did it first the years ago they were like yeah whatever

uh but you know hey uh the fucking um jason mommoa follows me on instagram oh whatever you know like nobody gives the shit but now he does he doesn't he unfollowed me so my kids make fun of me even more now now now they're like sorry i was it yeah i know what the fuck i did jason fuck man um i don't know, maybe he was like, man, this dude's just too fucking into metal. But, no, but I don't, yeah, they keep you humble, though. So all the cool things that I've done, like, it's not like my wife lists that shit out. Like, she doesn't give the shit about it, you know? Yeah.

You know, how are you as a husband and a dad, you know, then as your career accomplishment? She's proud, but she doesn't, like, no one really gives a fuck. But that's good. It's good, though, right? It is good, dude. You know, because it just, it just, in a good way, it defecutive. It just keeps it brings you back down to I'm just the dad in last place in our household You know yeah, I'm not this fucking cool dude, you know, that gets to do cool things

So I'm just the fucking guy that's got to clean the refrigerator now, you know, and pick up the caca and take the dog, you know And stuff like that so but I think that's good It's great. Yeah, I think that so they so they don't give a shit about all that stuff Yeah, yeah, and your family part taught you a lot about how to balance your your your life well you know yes but just them being there tells me what I need to do

you know as opposed to them setting me on a path or dictating what how I'm supposed to do I know as a as a dad what I need to do do you know what I'm saying so I need to protect them so that's my number one goal no matter what is to protect them and to make them good you know so

with or without what I'm doing my goal is that. And so I've known that, and especially this last crazy year, being able to spend more time with them. I love that. I love not having the travel. I mean, I love going to festivals

and shows, and my favorite part of that besides the actual watching and the vibes and the energy of the music is meeting the fans. I love meeting it. But I love the fact that I've been home, taking care of my daughters in the house, and being Mr. Mom. Like, I

like that. I like that. That's almost more fulfilling, you know, and I've seen that how close I become with them, you know, now. And I've talked to you, I've done a million interviews of musicians, you know, with all this COVID stuff, and what do they say? They fucking love

being home with their kids and seeing their six-month-old, you know, turn one, you know, and they would normally not be there. You know, they're normally not there for the summer. When the kids half off, that's when you guys guys are playing European festivals

for months in a row and you're not there with your kids when they're not going to school then you come back for a short period then they're starting school and now you're not even with them anymore so it's like so these musicians have been able to really

spend some time with their families good and bad I mean that can be bad that can be like wow I really hate this person you know I need to get out of here or I fucking love this person and these people and this is where I need to be. So it sort of gives you a new perspective as well.

I mean, definitely this whole year has done that for me. Just doing my shows on serious extent from my house every day. Wow. It's like cool to see them walk by in the garage and have them say hi on the radio all the time. Like that's cool.

I like that better. They're not having them there. So yeah, man. Yeah, did you, when the lockdown happened, were you still going full on? Yeah, we didn't stop. Wow. We didn't stop.

serious xm didn't stop one second i mean why would it yeah i mean it's it's we don't have to be anywhere you know we prove that we can do this everyone can do this from their homes everybody can do this from wherever they're at yeah so um we didn't miss a beat i mean the only thing we missed a beat on was just events and doing stuff you know which we would do every year uh as a company or as just me myself as um you know a medal ambassador but you know it was um it was um it was we didn't miss the beat. It was actually became, there was a lot,

kind of more work in a lot of ways, you know, just more interviews, more opportunities for interviews because there wasn't a barrier to do interviews anymore. You know, you didn't have to have somebody in person.

You can do something on Zoom. And I thought that was really cool. Yeah. I thought that was cool that I can talk to Tony Iommi on the phone from London, you know, and just do a big, well, you could have done that any time,

but, you know, now it was just more available. But I actually love doing the Zooms because I can see people. I love seeing people. Yeah. You know, I love seeing, you know, the handsome faces of the dudes that I'm talking to and, you know, talking to all these cool, you know, even like Courtney from Spirit Box, like, you know, and Lizzie from Hale Storm, Maria from In This Moment. You know, these are some, you know, Zoom interviews that I've done. And it's just so cool to do that.

So I like being home. And I know you've set up your home here, you know, pimped out my, I have a slither of my garage. I have a little corner where I'm at and I'm next to the refrigerator and the washer and dryer You know, when the shit's done You can know

Because you can hear the beeping When I'm on the radio Oh, the dryer's fucking done I'm gonna fold clothes As I play you some simple thudad Here's propaganda You know, so Yeah, I have a cool garage

But I love being home dude I love having my dog with me Rocky Dimebag You know, he's right there About my feet as I'm doing the show It's cool man I love this new way, you know?

I do love it, but I can't wait to get back to doing a hybrid. A hybrid of it now, because we're still going to be doing Zoom interviews. That's not going to stop now. It's so easy. Yeah, it's easy now. And it's easy. It's good quality. It's easy.

Yeah. So why not continue to do those, man? So now it's not like, well, wait till he's out in L.A. and then he's got to get over to Seal Beach and, you know, like that's a lot to ask for these people, you know? It's easy to do it this way. Yeah, it's great. So where, that being said, where do you see the music industry going? Do you see more of like a hybrid? Maybe it's not so much, this is Zoom and that's it, and not so much, just this in-person interview, maybe like a hybrid. Where do you see it going? I feel like it's going to be a mix, a hybrid of all things, you know, not just as an interview, but as a performer, bands and stuff, it's going to be a mix of virtual concerts, real concerts. It's going to be shorter tours. You know, bands aren't going to want to go off.

for five weeks. They're going to do two-week runs, you know, now. I know you guys are doing a long one. We're at eight-weeker coming out. Eight-weeker, yeah. But I feel like bands are going to, you know, choose to maybe not do that long anymore. I feel like it's going to go, it's going to be a little different. You know, I feel like, you know, bands are having to adopt to have different avenues of

revenue, you know, merchandise, creative merchandise capsules and seasonal packaging and limited edition merchandise released once a month and shit like that that's where it's going to move stuff you know virtual concerts real concerts you know uh Zoom virtual meet and greets you know blah I mean it's going to be all sorts of stuff yeah it's going to be a mix but I think that's good it's good thing I think it's good I think it's good I think it's just gives us more options you know not everybody can get out to a festival you know and leave their family and their work behind and that they could own businesses and they're the only people that can fucking run them. So now they can have a concert in their living room and have their family there with them. You know? And have popcorn and their own drinks and they don't have to fucking buy, you know, expensive beers and then spill them because you're fucking head-banging

so hard. I mean, it's different. You know, so for certain people, it's going to be, it's cool to have that. Because they couldn't do shit before or very limited. Now they can feel like they're part of more stuff, man. So I feel like it's going to be

a good mix of of all of that. And, you know, I can't wait to, again, I want to say hi to fans. Like, that's my favorite part.

Yeah, dude. You know, I'm not, I'm not gonna be in big smoke circles with fans anymore. Like, you know, when,

uh, sharing the joint. Yeah, like with 10, 12 strangers. It's all right. Hey, I got some weird smoke.

All right, cool, man. Everyone's like, it's like, it's like, and then you get it back and it's even more wet and you're like,

oh my God. And then you're trying to use your fingers not to touch the fucking thing against your and then you come back home and then you wonder why you're fucking sick like I wonder why I'm sick you know I would get sick

from festivals all the time because I would come back and I would hug handshake hug a fucking million people and smoke fucking weed with all these different strangers you know drink fucking share bottles with people and stuff and I'd be like yeah all right yeah all right but then I'm like

oh so that's gonna change okay where where are you going with that now Oh, everybody has their own joints. So now, and I say it on the radio stuff, if you're going to smoke with me, bring your own fucking joint, I'll have my own joint, and we'll just smoke together. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, that's what we do now. We just, everyone, now we just need more weed, which is okay. Yeah, we need more weed. Yeah. Which is not a problem. But just, yeah, you just, I think, you know, smoking, you know, I haven't shared a joint with anybody except my wife.

Really? I haven't shared a joint with anybody. No. Not since, not since all this shit started. Wow. No. Who's your going to? to take? I mean, if it's

Megan Fox and she's fucking passing me a joint, I'm going to fucking hit that shit, and I'm going to save it, and I'm going to fucking hang, I'm going to make it a necklace. Dude, no, I mean, I don't know. I don't know, but I don't know. My sister, I would share a joint, but even my sister and I were kind of weirded out by it.

You know, now my sister and I, and she's a big stoner, and I don't, I would share a joint with her, but even we are, we are having our own joints. So, yeah, I think. that's going to be a new rule. I'm a fist bumper. I'm a fist bumper. Because I do, I would shake a lot of hands.

Yeah. Like you, I think I would make myself more publicly available than I think you would at a concert. I think you have your meet and greet and people wait in line to see you guys and then you go backstage and then you do your show. I like to

walk around and walk around the festival and say hi. And, you know, and make myself available to say hi. To be, to be, to be to take pictures with people and to say thank you for listening to serious sex ham so i do that a lot and i love doing that and i would shake fucking everybody's hands and hug every fucking fucking sweaty dude that would hug me and i would hug them all i don't give a fuck um you know people would fucking kiss me on my chie i'd i'd fucking hold their sweaty asses i don't care but

now i'll still you know hugging i'm still open to hugging i'm probably gonna fist bump a lot of people now you know i don't know man natural a natural yeah It's tough, huh? Yeah, just because, dude, I mean, I'm still, I'm still, I've always been a germy fucking kind of a guy, but I've always tried to just not let it affect it. And then just as soon as I was done with hanging out, I would go to a bathroom and just wash my hands. So when I'm at those festivals, I would make sure to wash my hands more than I would ever wash my hands ever in life. But, you know, I think fist bumping is going to do it.

Yeah, and I just, I don't know. That's what I'm going to try to do. I hope that it's Yeah But I've seen You know I've seen people already Extend their hands a lot now

Yeah You know more It's going slowly Yeah People are just kind of going back to I don't give a fuck You know I'm Double vaccinated

And you know Even when I posted that video That first video Man A lot of views And a lot of fucking negative comments Wow So many people

Care about what I fucking put In my body It's weird It's so crazy But I understand That we do have A fan base That is

You know On that side as well But the thing that I say is that we're all rock fans. Let's take care of each other. Let's not fight. Let's fucking please take care of each other. We don't have to agree on politics or whatever. But let's please get along.

This is our music. This is our piece. I said it before. It's our peaceful room. It's our place to go where we can be fucking cool. And I really pushed for that to, to be the case. And it is.

And again, killing them with kindness is what you need to do. But yeah, just that vaccination video is like, wow, that's like, wow, that's a lot of,

you know, or just anything, you know, you know, it's been very hypersensitive these last, these last few years. And it's been crazy

to see all that, man. It's been insane to see how easy hate can come out of people. Yeah. But that's why. again, I've always fucking,

then it even makes me more want to be positive because of so much shit that's happening that's fucking bad. Then it's like, well, am I going to add to that? Or am I going to fucking try to help somehow? Yeah. And I'm not going to convince people

you know, for whatever belief. It could be a band or a viewpoint. But I'm but I just, let's just fucking be cool. Let's be cool. Yeah. Let's be cool. So yeah. So I think that's it there too but yeah uh i i feel like for me yeah i'm gonna try to fist bump i'm gonna just

try to you know be more aware and just you know but again dude i would i would get sick from these cruises these festivals i would always come back sick and it was just part of it you know it's part of it yeah it would be part of the afterwards you know don't you get sick from coming back from festivals and stuff or not that much or i've been very fortunate throughout my whole career i don't really get sick oh dude I've got a strong immune system. Or you got to hug more fucking sweaty dudes and stuff. I'm been hugging a lot of sweaty guys, man.

Well, you got a lot of some more. Come on, Garza. You're not getting enough of those freaking good bacteria. I got A week's coming out. I'm not looking forward to a lot. I can't wait to see that show and Ginger. That's been great. Dude, I'm so proud of Alex and for all the Mexinos, man.

Like, he score one for the team. You know what I'm saying? I'm so proud of you, Alex, man. So yeah. You know they met at my fucking Taco Man. metal party. Did they? Yeah!

Oh shit. That's why she didn't fucking hang out with us inside the party. She was on the RV with freaking your boy. Where's fucking Tatiana? Where's Tatiana?

Because Ginger performed at my studios. We did a big Taco Metal Party with Alien Weaponry and Ginger. I love both those, man. The line went around the fucking building and people were just fucking going crazy to be there.

And Tatiana was so awesome and so cool and love her and yeah and she was I was where's Tatiana where's Tatiana and she was with Alex outside why didn't they come in Alex should have came in with her

dude that way she would have been around us more damn it um but yeah so that was yeah but that's where that's where it all happened right there so man Jose bringing love together yeah I'm fucking matchmaker metal matchmaker dude matchmaker sweaty hugs I made you a whole nine

You know, I've always had this idea of doing like a metal dating show or something cool where, you know, rock fans can meet other rock fans because that's the most powerful thing when if you're with a girl or a dude that doesn't like your music, that's fucking awful. Yeah. That's awful. Yeah. As hot or as handsome as that person is. Yeah, it's tough. It's fucking awful. Imagine being excited to go to something and they're like, yeah, just go with your friends.

Yeah, it's tough. Like, I want to experience this with you, my partner, my life partner. Like, let's experience this shit together. Yeah. I fucking would never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, be with a person that did not love metal music. Melissa loves metal, loves metal. But she loves hip-hop. And, you know, 90s, R&B stuff, she loves all that.

Selena, we love Selena. But, I mean, she loves deaf tones, system of a down, seven dust, corn, Slipknot, Lamb of God. Like, these are suicide silence. You know, these are bands that she loves. And this is like, should we get to experience? And I can't even imagine. But going back to the dating show, I just, I think it would be really cool to use the, the Sirius X-M platform to help bring that together, to help do something.

Cool. I don't know how, if it's a game show, it'd have to be visual, though, you know. So, there's Zoom. There you go. But, yeah, I'd love to do that because I think that more people should link up. up together and you know and it could be some chick from Maine ends up moving to fucking Portland to hang out with you know okay you meet somebody you work it out you know and yeah that person will move maybe who knows man so never know right I don't know but I just think

being with the right person that loves your music is is so important especially if you're someone that loves it yourself as much you know pretty important I couldn't I couldn't be with the I couldn't be with the person I know it would be fake it might just be because she's Megan Fox or something. You know what I mean? Yeah. If Megan Fox, but she even likes rocks, she's the rocker.

So she can, she would be okay for me. Yeah. You know? And that fakeness will manifest at some point, you know, I was like,

oh, she can't. Well, if she ever says, oh, Pantera sucks. And I, even if it's Megan Fox, I'd be like, I don't know, girl. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know if I can, I can handle this. But I'd hang with it for a few weeks, though. Yeah. I always tell Melissa,

can Megan Fox be my one pass, please? so machine gun Kelly he's fucking he's a badass dude great guy huh he's cool man I smoked out with him watching corn yeah we were watching corn

at uh it was uh in Florida festival I think it was Fort Rock or something and we were up in the front like in the barricade sort of section like on the toward the side you know and we were smoking I was like hey you want smoke weed he's like yeah man I was like oh fuck

all right this is kind of cool he gave me his number and shit too I was like, oh, fuck. Yeah. This is pretty fucking cool. He's great, and his band's great. A.J. Rook. I mean, they're all really cool guys.

I don't know the dudes, but, you know, I know people hate on MGK for, you know, representing rock music. And he just won the Billboard Rock Artist of the Year award. And people are like, what, you know, why? Man, you know, again, it's under the umbrella. he's inviting more people to the rock party, you know, directly and indirectly, you know. I mean, I'll take, you know, these dudes representing rock music.

I mean, that's, fuck it, dude. You know, we need people doing it for us. You know, if it's not him, then it's nothing. Then who else? Then who's it going to be? Yes, okay, there was other bands nominated. I get it. But, I mean, he had a big album, you know,

and maybe it's not your definition of rock, but, you know, it's it's it's it's it's a rock album sort of you know and and if people want to say their rock let them fucking be rock you know let them be rock man I don't agree with the whole rock and roll hall of fame shit you know that certain bands are left out and certain others getting in and you know other genres are getting in that's a whole another discussion but I don't really put a lot of stock in that anyways you know I could start the medal ambassador awards fucking today and then have Garza wins metal

fucking head of the year You know what I mean? I appreciate that Yeah But that's what the rock and roll Of fame is You know That's what the heavy metal

Hall of Fame is It's like It's just a dude It's just a dude Yeah You know It's just a dude Saying you know

And now they think They're really fucking cool But you know The fans know What's up But I also don't Get my fucking

Get so worked up Over it Where I'm so angry And I'm like Oh Oh Yeah And just always

the tweet about how fucking mad I am and how fucking this sucks and all right that's not what is that going to do again being negative invites more negative you know like the anthrax song says misery loves company

I'm your number one misery loves company man so that's fucking I don't want to I'm not going to be in that company you know good man the only way to combat negative energy is with pure positive because there's two energies. You need to like,

that's the only way to combat this is with this. And I think it might sound at the risk of sound in Woo-boo. I think positive energy is more powerful and, you know, it has more weight to it. Yes, but you know how fast negative

shit spins and goes and travels and clicks and so yes, it's more powerful, but that's not what's happening, though. You know what I'm saying? Look at politics. you know

I mean it's there is untruths but people believe the shit yeah so it's like so it's

oh man so you can it goes I don't know so yes being positive is more powerful but you know positive people

don't get the same clicks that negative people do you know and I'm saying clicks because it's this social media world in a lot of ways but yeah someone says something positive someone saves a kitten someone does something cool won't have that many likes won't have that many coverage and of things but someone says

something bad oh watch watch the fucking news travel real quick yeah they say uh misinformation travels by times faster than than truth so i i feel like positive so i don't feel like you know yeah i feel like that's why i just have to always fight that battle of just against the negativity and always just putting out this positive and it's not even putting it out as a fake it's putting out this authentic positive vibe and really believing

that because I believe what I'm saying you do you know I believe what I say when I say I want to bring people together you know I do want unity in our music I believe that you know I believe in our bands I believe in our fans I really do you know people have lost faith in that shit

but I haven't. You know, I believe in the people behind the scenes. I believe in this shit. So I do. You know, so I think that's where it starts, too.

You have to really, like, believe, but something, and then it goes to the opposite. Some people really believe bullshit, too. You know? There's people that really fucking believe, really believe bullshit.

And then they keep fucking spreading that. And there are people that you and I know, and there's people that believe, bullshit. Yeah. Very unfortunate, you know. Yeah. And it is. And it's sad and you see them on social media

and you're like, oh my God. What happened? Oh my God. What happened? This person used to not be this aggressive and angry. And you know, I don't know,

like victimized or something like, what happened? Yeah. You know? These people brought it on themselves. Yeah. It wasn't, you know, so. True. Yeah, man, there's a lot of that.

So, but I don't hang out with those people. I like to hang out with cool people, you know, so I surround myself with cool people. It's great. You know, fun people, positive people. And it's fun to always be used to that. And then when others outside of our circle hang out with us, and they see that and they see like, wow, you guys are really good.

And no one's talking shit about people. and you know and it's like this is different you know it's like well who are you hanging out with before you know like why was your circle so negative yeah you know and you got to get rid of that shit man so it's cool to hear that from others that come and and and and see what we do you know in real life and behind the scenes and parties and the good vibes that we're always putting out there and taking care of people and all that you know and people don't see that. Our friends see that, but it's, you know, it's cool to be that positive, to be recognized by that from the outside. Totally. Totally. I mean, to people that aren't exactly aware,

people might think what they hear on series is like a character. Yeah, they think that a lot. But what they don't realize, me knowing you for 10 plus years, you've been the same guy everywhere. And I've seen you in a lot of scenarios in the crowd. I've seen you at series doing, you're doing your thing. I've seen you at taco parties, seen you behind backseat your shows. Now we're in my garage. You've been the same

authentic Jose. And I think that's what listeners have, you know, discovered over the years, you know? They're just like, they would hate me and they hated me probably for a while and then after a while they're like, man, fuck, this dude's still the fucking same, you know?

Like, you can't, he fucking loves it. Fuck, it's hard to fucking hate him. You know? They can hate me for, you know, whatever, you know, career or anything, or my family, you know, I mean, that's jealousy or whatever. But at the same time, as a radio host and as a presenter of the music, man, I haven't strayed from my formula, you know, that I've felt comfortable with myself doing. I haven't strayed from that, you know, and I, and I'm not going to stray from that.

Because, again, I just, it's working. It's working. It keeps working. So, you know. 20 years. I mean, it's pretty good. I think it's pretty safe to say. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but I still feel young. I still feel like I can do so much, man. I'm going to

write a book. I'm going to fucking start a cruise. I'm going to start a festival. I'm going to start the scholarship fucking foundation. You know, I want to do a lot. I want to do a lot, man. I want to create a like a menudo, but for

hard rock and metal. I want to assemble a group of talented young Latinos to create music that I hear. And I don't have to be in the band. I just want to be like the Simon Cowell of it. Do you know what I'm saying? And create this band where they can sing in English and Spanish

and mix Latino music with hard rock and metal, but do it in every song. Not just in one song or not just a cover here. I'm a fucking band that does that. Like puya. Pooja. But a 2021 Puyah. Yeah.

That's more accessible and more mainstream. You know, I want to do, I want to work with Juanis. You know, Colombian fucking superstar. He's a friend of mine, too. He's a fucking big metalhead. Yeah. I gave him his first shot of Yeagermeister ever in his life. Oh, fuck.

I'm so proud of that. So I'm corrupting everyone. But Juanis, you know, he started off as a metal head. And he's a long hair. He was an ekemosis in Colombia. and we've talked about doing something like where ProBot did, with Dave Grohl did, where he invited and asked his idols to do songs with him.

Dave did that in 2004 with ProBot. And he had Max Cavaleta, Kronos, Lemmy, a bunch of different singers, Snake from Voivod. You know, I want Juanis to ask James Hetfield and Dave Lombardo and Tom Mariah and Max Cavaleta and dudes that he loves to do songs with, but that mix the fucking cultures together. It would be fucking...

be a fucking global bomb. It'd be like, whoa, not a bomb in a bad way. In a good, like a, what the fuck? Yeah. This dude that played for the fucking Pope is now doing a song with Tom O'Reyer from Slayer

and Lombardo's fucking on the drums in the same song. Bringing the two of those two guys guys. See, that's what I want to do big shit. I want to be Ryan Seacrest of fucking metal. Dude. You know what I mean?

You could do that. I want to do a lot of shit. I want to do a lot of shit. to do a lot of shit. So I feel like I'm just starting. 20 years was just my admission fee. It's crazy how that works. When you, there's something,

because I'm going on 20 years as well with suicide as soon as that sounds. It's just funny, like that feeling. Wait, this is just to get to the like start point. Yeah. It's so crazy. Yeah. I don't, I, I, I, I, there's, there's, dude, there's so much to do.

So much, so much to do. And, and I just want to do good. I want to do good. I want to bring smiles to people. people's faces. I want to do a lot of good. And I feel like I'm doing it. You know, and this limousine that I inherited, you know, from Vinnie Paul. Like, I want to have fans in the limo and smoking weed with me, you know, taking down shots of black tooths and tequila, you know, inviting fans to cruising it. Listen to a fucking Pantera song, smoke a joint, you know. Like, I want to do cool shit. You know, I want to get people excited about fucking metal music.

music, you know? And that's my goal. That's what I've always wanted to do. Wow. Jose, we are very lucky to have you in our culture and our lives, man. You are truly waving the flag, loud, loud and proud. I'm trying, brother. I'm trying. It feels good. I feel very blessed, though. And that's why I have to keep on doing and continue to give back. I mean, I feel like I have a mission. Like I'm on a mission. You are? Yeah. Jose, this is your purpose. Yeah. I know that. And That's what's so cool. Like, I know that. And I know it.

A hundred percent know. That's why I'm fucking getting metal on my fucking stomach. Fucking metal. Yeah. I know it. My family knows it. I know it. My friends.

Now my managers, my three managers, they know it. Like, I know. My bosses know it. Like my fucking boss, the heads of fucking programming is serious like Sam. They're fucking so cool to me. And they're like, you're so fucking passionate about this shit. You know, I'm on meetings every Monday morning, and it's like all the program directors that are in charge of channels that play new music.

There's a lot of us, all genres. And we talk about what we're adding to the channel that week and what our successes are and things like that. And when I talk, it's like my radio break. It's like I'm a personality, you know, and it's, it's, It shines. It sticks out. It sticks out from everybody else.

And I've been there longer than all those fucking people. And I'm still fucking talking like I'm fucking a new employee there. Like excitement, you know, like, and people laugh and they smile and they know that I love the songs that I'm adding. Do you know what I'm saying? As opposed to, well, we're adding this and we're adding, going to go with this. And this song is doing well. So this will be our next ad. All right, well, thanks.

Go on the next person and I'll be like, oh man, dude, Fear Factor came out with a new song and it's so sick. We debuted that, man. Dino did the intro. Everybody was talking about. There was people in Japan that wanted to subscribe the serious sex and they were pissed

that they couldn't. That's freaking pretty cool. And dude, 12 foot ninja, our mates from Australia. They put out a new song. We were the first to play before anybody in a... That's how I talk. You know, and people are just like...

It stands out. And then my boss is like, you stand out. You're a big personality. You're so fucking passionate and positive. You fucking stand out. You know? And that's good. You want to do that.

You want to stand out. In a good way. In a good way. Because you can stand out and be a lethargic asshole who doesn't give a shit about anything. And it's just like thinks he's super cool. Or you can be fucking cool. And, you know, I always say, hey, teammates.

Hey, family. Hey, teammates. You know what I mean? Teammates. You know? Yeah. You know, so it's like, hey, you know, addressing them and saying hi to them too, you know, as opposed to just giving the thing that your boss wants to hear. You know? So yeah, man.

But thank you for the kind words, Chris, dude. I love it. I'm a big fan of your band. I love that I've been able to a little bit help the career and the trajectory of suicide silence. And thanks for inviting me to, sing on Doris. That was a lot of fun

with Ross Robinson and that producer. That was fucking crazy doing that and I love telling that story on the air and yeah dude and asking me to host

the Mitch Memorial that was really I talked about that the other day too how hard that was to do. Yeah. Yeah that was you did I mean

beyond phenomenal job and what's even more fascinating about you hosting Mitch's show is that when we were talking about who's gonna do

like we didn't even think like it's it's it's going to be Jose yeah and that's like an emotional connection that you didn't even try to get with us and it's always like Jose's always support us to where we're gonna have him involved with this show obviously it meant like everything to us and what and you it was difficult Chris to host a memorial with his family there it's a sad time yeah it was a sad thing but it was a concert Yeah. And it was friends coming in to help. And, you know, are you funny?

Are you serious? Are you somber? Are you sad? Are your level of energy down? Like, how am I supposed to be a host? How do I host this? You know? How do you get cheer?

You know what I mean? It was just like, it's different from hosting anything else because it's always celebratory in a really easy, obvious way. But this was, you know, I mean, it was. like sad too it wasn't this whole happy joyous thing either you know so i remember there was a fine balance to do it but i think it came out really cool and and people still to this day fans of suicide silence say you did a great job hosting that memorial show i see it on social media i see it in person you know people have told me that a lot you know at that pomona fox theater show and so yeah man that was a it was a big deal to do that for you guys and i'm glad that

you asked me, but it was the I think the hardest thing that I ever had the host. Really? Yeah. I don't know that. Yeah, I just never had to host something like that, you know? Again, I've spoke at Vinnie Paul's funeral. I mean, that's different though.

That wasn't a concert. You know, that wasn't this, that was very fucking different. You know, but doing this, it was, you know, I mean, not, it was similar, but different. It was just, again, I don't know what the fuck to do. I never know what I'm going to do before I do it. You know, no interview or when I'm on the radio or when I spoke at Vinnie's funeral. I had no idea what I was going to say.

I just said it. You know, I just kind of close my eyes and just set stuff. Yeah. Well, you have a gift of speaking from your gut and your heart, you know, and you can't really go wrong with that at all. No. You know? I think it wins. I think it wins, brother.

It wins. Yeah. Well, Jose, I don't want to keep too much of your time. You know, you've done a lot for suicidante's. You've done a lot. And I've known you for many years. And you have a big piece of when we were no buddies, you were inviting us to XM playing our shit.

When Mitch passed away, you were there and you supported us. And I was just thinking about this right before you drove up. Little things that people do. And there is a weird transition where, you know, Eddie wasn't the singer yet, so we didn't even know we were a band yet. We had no idea. So, like, are we over? It was a heartbreaking time.

We don't know. We just did the Mitch show. And so anytime someone, you know, supported us, like a little, like, oh, dude, come over and hang out. It stays with me even more now. And you, what you did for us, like, you invited us over to affliction, just to hang out and chat. Always, yeah. And little things like that, Jose, have stuck with me until now, forever. And those means so much to me.

And then when we got Eddie, you supported the band and you played our stuff, when we have a record that no one really likes. You guys were number one album of the year for Liquid Metal for that Eddie album. Crazy. You guys were number one of the year for us. Wow. That's a big deal. I remember number one albums and bands and suicide silence had one of them. So that's a big deal.

Well, we couldn't have done it without your support. I mean, for real. I mean, this is our first time actually sitting down and chatting, but you are considered family to me. Oh, dude, thank you. Well, likewise, brother. Likewise, guys. Anything that you would need for me, you know, I'm there because you were always there for us. Even, like, subconsciously, which is very, it's extremely rare where someone's just always there.

Well, that's good, man. Well, I love being there. I love being the, uh, thank you Jose. That thing that, you know, you have like the, the angel and the devil on either side. I like being the metal head on one of your side somewhere talking to you. In your private moments, hey Garza, get another model and give me one too. Well, World Warbrose probably about to have round two maybe. Oh, man, right on, dude.

Well, Jose, anything that you want to share? No, I mean, just thanks for supporting Garza's podcast, your podcast, brother. Thanks for supporting metal and all the shit that I do on Sirius XM. And I hope you follow at Jose Mang. I'm pretty active on there. Thanks for supporting the Vinnie Paul limo restoration. That is massive. That's a huge deal.

I couldn't have done it without your help. There's no way that I could have restored this limousine that couldn't have been restored. But it was this urge to want to pay tribute to Vinnie and Dime. So, yeah, man. Just thank you. Thank you for loving metal and for being so cool, man. That's all.

Awesome. Jose, thank you again, man. Of course. Everyone, until next time. Later. Fucking I. Ah! A-verga!