Garza Podcast - 185 - SUICIDE SILENCE | Ernie Iniguez: Deathcore, LA Protests & Life Update

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Garza sits down in-person with Ernie Iniguez. Drummer for the deathcore band SUICIDE SILENCE. https://instagram.com/ernieiniguezdrumsMERCH: https://garzapodcast.myshopify.comCOFFEE: https://garzapodcastcoffee.comCHAPTERS:00:00 - L.A. Protests // Misinformation15:25 - Anthony Bourdain18:29 - Odd Fan Interaction20:41 - Life Update & Catch-Up29:18 - Garza’s Kia Rio31:53 - Writing New Songs32:38 - Boyfriend D37:57 - Slaughter to Prevail43:40 - Quad Cortex47:08 - Lifted50:37 - Getting Older56:35 - Online Trolls & Supporters1:04:10 - Outworking Everybody1:07:39 - Fender 7 String1:09:50 - Chuck Norris Questions1:14:46 - Garza is Chug Norris1:16:35 - Burnout1:30:32 - Staying in Headbanging Shape1:36:58 - Korn Tracksuit1:39:18 - Orthodox & Left Handed Guitars1:42:49 - Malevolence1:45:23 - Free Knowledge1:49:03 - Last Thoughts

It's been a while. I feel weird, dude. This is like... It's kind of crazy, huh? Is this like our first time doing it? It feels like the very first time, dude? What's up, dude? Wait, are we going? Are we rolling already?

Yeah, trudging, dude. Well, it's trudging and what? Yo, let's... Come on. Come on, dude. This goes to you and the people. Dude, for the people. Cheers, dog.

To music, friendship. And getting it. Done, dude. Cheers. Jay. Jay. You have a star bucks. Yes, sir. I too have the bucks, but I've also got a claw because, you know. Clawed up, dude. Oh, God, dude.

The claws is a lot. What's that matter with you? That was a nasty slur. You'll have to forgive me. I just came from work. I'm super caffeineed up right now, dude. Yeah. I'm juiced. Dude, I already had like three monsters.

If I put any more caffeine in here, dude, I'm going to fucking fight you. Dude, I ran the fucking, I ran the fucking. gamut today. So I got to work early for those that don't know I work in a very particular part of downtown LA that's heavily affected by what's going on right now. Oh yeah, yeah, man. With the protests and a lot of that stuff. I mean,

I'm literally like 1,200 feet from the thick of it. You serious? Oh, yeah. You're in? There's a video circulating online. A girl got shot by an officer with a rubber bullet at the end of our block. It's already on the internet. It happened like I think yesterday the night before.

trying to get into her apartment. Oh, no. The cops told her to go the other way, and she's like, my place is right there. She was by herself, unarmed nothing, and they fucking hit her with the fucking, with the rubber round, dude. And you can hear it as it leaves the barrel. She buckles and just falls on the fucking ground, and I'm just like, Jesus, dude. Oh, no.

Not a chance that she did not shit herself when she got, yeah, right there. Dude, the audio is crazy when you hear him fucking shoot. Can you get a bit more volume? Watch, if they shoot her. Look. Oof. Oh, that's literally at the corner from my work. So that's right by your work?

I walk that fucking street when I leave to go to the train station. That, I was just like, holy shit, dude. So, you know, basically circling back to make a long story short, because of all this is going on, we've had to adjust some shit at work. Yeah. And adjust some of the hours and stuff like that. And to top it all off, they are opening a new restaurant next door to the one that I'm in. So they're remodeling.

They're having to reroute some of the stuff in our restaurant. And so we had to bring a bunch of refrigerators and coolers from the back and put them out in front where our area is. So everything's really cramped and messed up right now. I got to work and I was like, I'm going to need caffeine to get through all this and get everything organized. Because I was by myself for like the first two hours. So I went to coffee bean and got the biggest fucking cold brew they had. And then smashed another one when I left. So that's why I just got a tea and not a.

coffee because if I drink one more coffee I'd be in fucking rough shape right now. I'm already in pretty rough shape. I'm not rubbing any holes in my fucking knees or anything like that because, you know, not yet. These are still too new to do that too. For people that, um, because obviously we do this in Southern California, but a majority of people that are watching us are from outside of California. What, yes. What does it actually look like? So if I'm being completely honest, I do think, Because I'm right there in the thick of it, they are definitely pumping it up and making it look fucking way worse on TV. Like, I'm not saying that shit isn't happening. Like, it definitely is.

But it also, what I'm seeing is there's a lot of, there's a lot of like, I think there's a lot of agitators that are making it fucking worse. And it's, and it usually happens as the sun starts to go down as it gets a little bit later in the day. because for the last, I mean, I've been at the shop for the last fucking four or five days. Like that right there, yes, this has happened. This is crazy. Yes. People are in their freeway. Yes.

However, they really are kind of choosing to just show the fucked up shit. They've always done that. We've known that's a tale as old as time. You know, they made it seem like it was this big fucking thing. Dude, I've been at work for the last five fucking days and it has been business as usual. It's quiet. There's nothing going on. Yeah. Most of the activity is right in front of the federal building, which is close. It's right around the corner. And that's where most of the activity is going on. However, most of what I have seen when I drive by is peaceful. No one's fucking anything up. No one, like, they're protesting. People are shouting and shit, but there wasn't like I didn't see anything on fire. Nobody was flipping fucking cars over. Like, you know, and maybe that's just my experience so far, but it has been, I think today is like day five of like the protests and all that stuff.

However, LAPD did come into our shop today and get some pizza and whatnot. They were telling us to expect really crazy shit Saturday and Sunday because it's Donald Trump's birthday Saturday. Dude, it's supposed to be like, they're telling us like you guys should probably like fucking stay ready, be ready to board your windows up in case shit pops off. And I'm just like, cool, I work Saturday, but I'm getting the fuck out of there at 3 o'clock and see ya. you know what I mean like they're expecting to they're expecting it to be crazy because it's Trump's birthday yeah and like they're supposed to make like that shit right there and like he's spending a bunch of money and having like a whole day out of it and like it's and it's supposed to be like a nationwide thing so is it the armies it says something on the top i believe it's also like

it's uh okay so a look at the army's 250th anniversary parade and it lands on trump's birthday which is fucking crazy. That's like a double... It's a recipe for disaster, dude. It's going to be fucking chaos. But who knows? You know, like... Yeah, I don't know.

And I'll be the first person to fucking say it. I'm not versed enough or educated enough to speak on the matter of like what I think is going to happen. But I am in the thick of it of where this shit is happening and the news and outlets are definitely sensationalizing it.

Like crazy. You know, and I've already, like, I've talked to some of the peaceful protesters, too, that have come in to, like, get drink and food and shit like that. And most people kind of agree. They're like, yeah, I do think there's some people out there that are going about it the wrong way. The looting and all that shit, like, it unfortunately places an even bigger target on a lot of Hispanics backs. You know, and it's on camera. It's on film.

People are filming this shit and putting it on the news, you know. And so it's just like, I don't know. Honestly, it's a very strange thing for me because I'm like, I don't really know how to feel about it. I'm all for fucking peaceful protesting and getting the message across and stuff like that. I don't think the looting and all that stuff is necessary, but people are going to get their point across however they want to get it across. You know what I mean? We get our point across by playing music. You know?

Yeah, trying not to be too destructive. Yeah. Yeah, you know. We thrash our own bodies on stage. Yeah. Look like fucking dummies and spin our necks around and all that crazy shit. It's like let's just trash your own bodies. And then we get off stage and it's all hugs and smiles and fucking kisses.

You know what I mean? Most of the time. Most of the time. You know, sometimes me and Garzwell fist fight in the fucking bus afterwards, but, you know, it just depends. Yeah. I was just curious what it was like, you know, in a thick of it, dude. Yeah. I was very, like, going back from my two days off back to work.

I was like, God, I hope shit's not all fucked up. And I got to work and I was like, oh. Everything was totally normal. I was like, oh, okay. Was that same, uh, location there when the BLM rights were happening as well? No. Okay.

The location's only been there now three years. I knew it was like it was either there or like got made right after. Yeah, it was something else before that. Yeah. The building has been there. The building has been there for a long time. But the restaurant was not there yet. It's only been there for, we just, we just passed three years in that location.

Okay. Yeah. Can you tell the people what's really going on? Can I tell the people what's really going on, dude? You're scared. What? I'm scared of what? They might take you.

What? They're going to take me and then fucking send me back and be like, you know what? Never mind. We don't want them. They're going to send me back to the States. We don't want this fucking guy. He's defective. Rex goes like, we don't want the shudiest drumming here, dude.

No. Fuck that. No. Yeah, no. I'm, again, you know, I get, speaking on that matter, dude, It's fucking scary for the people, man. And honestly, I'm very, I'm very lucky and fortunate to have been born here. And, you know, yeah, I have.

We are lucky to be born here. Very, very. Crazy. My luck in the draw. I have family that emigrated here way back when, you know, and obviously they're citizens and have green cards and status and all that stuff. But yeah, it's fucking scary, man. It's a scary fucking time. It's crazy.

It's a very tense time out here. And they just seem to be really like. doubling down on it and like they're trying to like send more national guard troops in and marines and all kinds of wild shit and um the isis said that they're going to basically occupy l a county for the next 30 days so they're really just here fucking sweeping up it's it's crazy it's it's fucking wild man to say the least yeah i think what's really scary is that uh at any point dude they could bring in as many i mean armed forces here as they want yeah yeah it's not even like a Yeah.

I mean, like, if they want to, like, really stop it, they could literally end it. It was like, oh, throw in, like, you know, 10,000, you know. It was funny this morning. Actually, it's funny that you're scrolling on this right now. Somebody posted a screencap of a tweet that Ice Cube posted at the beginning of the presidency. And he was like, is Trump going to be the first president to nuke a U.S. city? Let's stay tuned and see. And they were like, yo, this aged wonderfully, like, fucking.

Wow. How many people? Yeah, that's it right there. Will Trump be the first president to Nuka, U.S. and you stay tuned. June 1st, 2020. Oh, yo. That's fucking crazy, bro.

Ice Cube ahead of the crib again. It's an L.A. legend right there. Is there a head count of how many people are actually involved with the, or both, both involved with the peaceful protests and also the riots? Is there actually like, I want to know that there's actually like a head count, like $5,000, $10,000? fact check that because even I don't know. I know it's a lot of people. Because usually when there's any kind of protest of violent or peaceful, there's like, oh, there was 5,000 people here.

It was like that for the last one. Yeah. I wonder if there's a number. Because I want to compare two numbers real quick, just real quick. Or maybe it's too soon to tell. I mean, it has only been a couple days. anything? I will say it's a lot harder to read

when I have glasses on. Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. We're both in here with the windshields on, dude. Why is it so hard? No, I guess. So we can't find a head count yet.

It says, POTAS, nothing. The only thing they have a head count of is how many troops that they've sent over here. Trump has deployed thousands of troops. 700 U.S. Marines. Yeah, 700 Marines,

and I think 2,000. National Guard, and I read a headline this morning that says they're not sure why he sent so many fucking troops. They've only deployed 300 of them in Los Angeles

County. The rest of them basically just sitting at the federal building, just kind of waiting to be utilized. It's kind of fucking crazy. And again, now this is all just of what I've read. I don't know how much of it is true. You know, I don't want to fucking sit here and sound like a fucking dingus, but this is just stuff that I've

Too late. I mean, you know. It's too late, dude. Thanks, dude. Yeah, this is going on fucking, uh, uh, still no number. Sorry, people that, uh, that are listening and watching and we are literally reading a real time trying to find a number, but we can't find a number. I was just curious because I wanted to compare the actual head count to, uh, the actual

population of, I mean, of Los Angeles County. For sure, it's, it's definitely in the thousands, for sure. Would you say, uh, 10,000? A million? I honestly, I don't think it's that many. I'm, I'm gonna say probably somewhere between, like, I'd say between 5 and 10,000 maybe. I feel like that's a pretty fair number, at least.

Again, if I'm eyeballing it from the shit I've seen. But yeah, it's wild, man. It's wild what is happening. Yeah, we are so lucky to be born here. What a luck of the draw. Yeah. I've always, like, warn of that. Like, what is that?

It's crazy. Is that luck? Is that what the... Yeah. Like any one of us could have fucking been born anywhere else. A past life? Yeah. A good, good karma being passed down from a past life.

Something. I don't know. I don't know, man. But yeah, you know, here we are. We're lucky enough to be able to sit here and fucking chat and do this. And, you know, some people are just getting fucking swept up and taken back, you know. There's just so, and like anything else, when stuff like this happens and they sensationalize the shit out of it, they're so, they're such a. big fucking spread of misinformation,

which I think they do on purpose also to really throw you off the fucking trail so that you actually don't know what's going on. Like, you know, keep the general public confused, you know? Misinformation is so like, it's so frustrating. Like the first time I was like,

okay, I'm going to sit down and like, you know, I'm going to try to stop being an idiot. I want to be like educated with like some things. This was like 27. My first subject that I got passionate in was food So it's like 27 Okay, I read like I was reading books about it I was watching all the YouTube videos

And that was just food And that was my first time seeing like Oh, everybody's talking shit on like each other No one's saying This person talking shit on vegan This person talking shit on this person hunting Is vegan right? Is carnivore?

It's like what am I What am I supposed to do? It's almost like there's no there's no right answer It's just And that was just food, man And that was like my first Like introduction Like, wow, that was

Fucking Did you, did you read? I'm sure you've like You've read Anthony Mornayne's book, right? No, I haven't. Really? No. Rest in peace.

Holy shit. Yeah, the goat, dude. That's a really good read. What's it about? It's, it kind of like documents his travels And like just kind of like, it's a, I don't know the correct word for it. But he was just, I mean,

dude, Dave Chappelle said it best. It kind of talks about him in one of his comedy specials when he was just like, you know, Anthony Bourdain had the greatest job in showbiz. He got to travel around the world and eat food with incredible individuals. And even through all that, the guy had such troubled fucking time that he, you know, killed himself. It's crazy. You never know. You never know. You never know what's going on in someone else's mind or life.

Never. You just don't. It's wild. And people think because they're even like living their dreams. Like you don't know. Yeah. You don't know, man. Yeah.

It's crazy, dude. Yeah, money can't buy happiness. It's true. It's true. You just don't, you don't know. You know, just like people don't know, you know, like secretly, I want to kick gars it in the fucking throat. But, you know, I got, yeah. First of all, dude, I don't even want you here.

People force me. You know what? Just throw them on here. It's true. I had to tell him, like, dude, listen, it's been a while. We got to give the people what they want. Dude, I realize today, what, it was like nine months? It's been a fucking wild, dude.

It's been, yeah, it's been like nine, ten months. What that? It does not feel like that long. It doesn't. But then, like, when I've stopped to, like, turn around and, like, been checking out shit that's happened, I'm like, fuck, dude, it has. And actually, right now that you brought it up, I think it's actually been a little longer than nine months because I moved to L.A. in September. And I think our last fucking pod that me and you did was, like, the beginning of August. That sounds about right.

Yeah. So it's been a fucking wild. It's been like nine, ten months. It's crazy. What the That's crazy A lot has happened A lot has happened

Literally a lot A lot has happened I remember yeah Because you Yeah there you go We're fact checking this right now I'm taking the glasses off I'm getting foggy

Wanna go up It's or I won't tell you I think I think the one that said 11 months Yeah it might have been The last one

It might have been that one right Throw up on there She shit yeah I think that is the last It's not Tony by date order. It's just there. Yeah. Is there a way to navigate through dates?

This is like, yeah, I think. Oh, there you go. There you go. It's been 10 months. Oh, yeah, because we just finished this. Yeah. Okay, so it's been 10 months. Yeah.

Man. God damn, dude. 10 months. Crazy. Because I remember, yeah, August was like, was going full throttle with everything. Crazy, man. It's weird even being here.

Yeah, dude. It's weird. Feels good, though. Feels good. It's nice to be back here. Yeah, Ernie, people were telling me, dude, you got, you got to earn you back in there. So I have a really, also a cool story that just happened. I was going to call you, but I was like, I'll just wait until I get here and tell it on here.

I was on the five in traffic, in commerce. Yeah. Like right there by the commerce casino. And I'm like, you know, traffic is, it's moving. It's doing like, you know, five, ten miles an hour or whatever. Very fucking slow. someone starts fucking honking like a fucking maniac.

I'm like, who the fuck is like and I can't tell because I'm not trying to look behind me because I'm facing forward making sure I don't bump into the car in front of me and I'm like, who the fuck is honking? I can hear it that it's on this side on my driver's side and I'm just like

all right, what the fuck? Like I'm not, I can't go any faster and a white minivan dude pulls up fucking next to me and I'm just like kind of did like the side stare and someone's throwing the horns at me and I'm like, what the fuck? And it's a dude

with long hair and his lady in the car, I was just like, I rolled the window down and he was like, yo, fuck yeah, man, suicide silence, dude, that's fucking crazy. And I was just like, thank God. Oh shit, I was like, hey. And he's like, yo, Ray, Ray on Facebook, man, he's like, I just sent you a message to you. He's like, I'm out here on vacation from Texas.

Oh, wow. That's cool. Hell yeah, dude, sick. He was like, yo, sick, inspirational, man. Thanks for saying what's up. I was like, yeah. And he just drove off. I was like, damn, that was, he scared the shit.

I mean, I thought somebody was like honking at me to speed up. I was like, bro, I can't go any faster. You thought it was ice. He was in one of those grand car bands. It's a rental. He's driving a rental. It looks exactly like one of the ice minivans. Dude, I was like, what the fuck?

I made a call. Literally, it's that fucking band right there. That exact white fucking band, dude. That's what he was in. And I was just like, what the fuck. Yeah, but shout out Ray, Ray, dude. I'm glad you fucking dig the pod and glad you dig the band, man. That was cool.

I was like, scared the shit out of him. me for a second. I'm like, hey, I'm just, I'm just driving here, dude, like. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, some people were just, like, looking inside her car. It's like, what? Yeah. That's, yeah, I'm like, that's crazy that he either had the foresight to know what I look like from the side of my fucking profile or from the back of my head, because I'm driving my girls' car.

Shit's got Maryland plates on it. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, I do. A lot of has happened since you came last, so, because you used to live right down the street. You were in Santa Ana. Yeah. So you would come here a little bit too often, like just grab breakfast or lunch, and then we'll always leave and go to downtown and drink too much. Native son, baby. Yeah.

Which is exactly what we're going to do when we're doing. Yeah, yeah. So just for old time. But it's kind of like not in bad way earning, but it's kind of good that you moved out because then it definitely helped with our focus. Oh, for sure. I agree. Dude, I agree. If I was still here now and we were still doing this.

shit, we would be nowhere as far as we are right now, dude. Yeah, this is literally what we were doing. It's like, oh, yeah, you guys want to chill? It's like Tuesday. Yeah, look, I don't even have the fucking blonde in my hair anymore, dude. There's like, there's like fucking two inches of it left. It's all gone. It's how long it's been. Yeah, you moved away. Uh, you did. You got a, you got a stable girlfriend. I do. I do. Yeah, I'm in a very happy loving relationship out in the good old in the valley. North Hollywood How long you guys

been dating? We are going on nine months now nine months? Yeah. When are you guys going to break up? Nine months? Hopefully not any time soon.

It's going pretty fucking good, you know what I mean? I'd like this one to last exponentially longer than the last one, for sure. Oh my goodness. I was thinking, actually,

today I was like, I wonder what our ladies really think about us. Right? They're sick of us, dude. Like, this guy needs to grow the fuck up, like, quick. You know. And we're just trying.

Oh, yeah, dude. You know, we're not trying. We are doing it. Yeah, 100%. It's just at a... It's at a slower pace than the average human being. Kind of a slow... Because of what we do.

It's hard to grow up, man. I don't like growing up. No. But, uh... In a lot of ways, it fucking sucks, but... In a lot of... I mean, obviously, in... And also, in a lot of ways, it's also very necessary.

Mm-hmm. You know? Listen, personally, I think we're, I think we're actually all doing a pretty good job of fucking, of, like, growing up and, like, aging gracefully and not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, not taking ourselves so fucking seriously that it's just like, you know? Mm-hmm.

I don't know. I know we've probably talked about this before, dude, but it's, I've always found that it's like, there's something very, there's something very, there's something. There's something very depressing and sad about taking yourself seriously all the time. Oh, man. I would fucking, I don't even know that I would have survived as long as I have if I took myself that seriously. You know, you got to laugh, dude. You have to fucking take time to like, I don't even know, dude. The way, like I said, no one gets out alive, dude.

You may as well have a good fucking time. Enjoy your time here. You know, obviously take things seriously that need to be taken seriously. But don't forget to fucking stop and smell the fucking roses along the way and have. have fun and make memories and shit like that because you're not going to be around forever, but when you go, you'll take those things with you, you know what I mean? I didn't mean to get all deep on you for a second there, but it's the truth. It's the truth.

It's been a very, like, a very, like, eye-opening fucking last 24 months for me. For everyone, for everyone. It's just, you know, everyone's experiencing life at their own fucking pace and shit like that. But it's been really fucking cool, man. It's been really cool. I'm excited. Everything is, uh, everything seems to be fine. on all cylinders for for me for some of it seems like we never it's like we never left

it's like 10 months and we just got right back into it dude but it's funny you're walking i'm like how are we going to do this just like exactly like this dude you forget you forget how to do things man it's crazy but not really it's yeah but i i tell everyone it's like even what we do like doing this or when we're doing the band pot or when you're doing your episodes or anything like that It's kind of like, I don't think it's difficult for us because we're not doing anything out of the ordinary that we wouldn't do without a camera in front of us. We're just fucking hanging out and talking. And it's cool. It is like having a catch-up.

And it doesn't always have to be like, oh, hey, did you work on this song this week? Or what do we do? You know what I mean? It's like, no, we're fucking chilling. We're talking. It's you, me. It's handsome Jay over there with his sick Strokes shirt, dude. Shout out, Strokes are atop to your band.

Oh, Jay loves his jokes. I know he does. I know he does. The old stroke boy, what's up, dude? Oh, no. He likes the strokes, he likes that turnstile a lot. Hey, that new turnstile record? That's pretty hot.

Pretty sick, dude. He's got some hot, hot heat on there, dude. And people just love that band, dude. Turnstile is a cool band. That's, like, that's... They are sick, they're a cool band. Yeah, for fucking sure, for sure. Man.

Now, usually our conversations are of me postponing, jamming. Were we Writing yet Last time you were here No We weren't hot No We were in talks about like

All right we have to get stuff set up Oh yeah I know we're talking about something Oh and in fact that's what did it That's what switched me over from coming and doing these When you were like we got it We have to go to the garage and get everything set up Oh yeah over there

So that yeah God damn that's crazy dude Yeah so we got yeah so I guess we never talked about it On here yet Yeah So we got the E kit set up. It's been a total game changer for us. It really has.

Our ears. Yeah. Even like, even like getting ready for shows is way different. Yeah. Like the E kit where you kind of like lock in a little bit more on like some parts. A little bit more. You can hear everyone really clearly. And so it's like.

It's really sick, dude. You don't have the, you don't have the screen of loud symbols and acoustic drums and loud amps blaring in your feet. blaring in your face to hide a little fucking pinch or a mistake or a flub like practicing at low volume is fucking scary but also sick it's because if somebody flub something it's like I know that was you mostly to be Dan Kenny well we all y'all we all know who it is that was a sloppy role dude slap roll yeah I've I've heard guards the flub a right hand riff to you over here and there you know what I mean dude I was listening to myself play early I'm like I'm sloppy, but I like it, though.

Here's the thing. I don't know. I like it. You're, your quote-unquote slop, which isn't sloppy. Yeah, it's just, it's just a sound.

It's actually, no, you know, and I know we fucking joke, we make jokes. We, you know, we did the whole AI thing on the fucking pod. Oh, that shit pissed me off.

Watch cars, I have a monumental crash out about AI, telling everyone how sick I am, dude. It ruined the band. It ruined a band. No, but I honestly think, you know what I think your style is? Not even,

the best. I mean, just say it. No, no. No. I thought that's where we're going. I think your right hand naturally likes to play Chug Norris. Chug Norris, dude. That's right. Like half a beat behind the click type of thing. Like, if that makes sense. Like you're just, which honestly is sick.

You never want to be in front of the click. You want to be slightly behind or on it. And you're permanently like slightly behind. Which is fucking sick because it really does make for like that. It just adds something to. to the fucking music that's got like, you know, the bounce, the fucking the swing, the head bob shit, it's in your right hand. You have it. You know what I mean? It's in there. It's the brown sound, as I like to call it. It's just fucking in there. You got a couple of brown boys in your band. You're going to have the fucking e-old swag and bounce. You know what I mean? Look, there he is, having a fucking crash out. AI is so sick, dude. I was pissed, dude. AI hitting you with the hard facts, dude. This is, okay, so we're talking earlier, we're talking earlier about misinformation. Oh, now, now it's misinformation, you know what I mean?

Okay, so when AI says that I'm sick, it's like true, but when it's AI says that you're sick, there's like, it's misinformation. It's false. There's like some weird, like glitch. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Deported. Oh, fuck.

Oh, fuck. Dude. I go, I got a, I got a, I got a Kia. It's pretty. sick, dude. Oh, yeah. Garza has joined Club Rio. It's a real exclusive club, dude.

Yep, I have a new club. I got a 2015 white Rio. Thing Fox, dude. Do you know what, dude? I'm keyed up. Yeah, dude. And, hey, and listen.

This is it. Dude, fucking. Oh, dude. Honestly? And I... Dude, the shit runs Prime. And I got up a car max, too. Yeah.

Yeah, dude. Runs like a fucking champ. And honestly, I know you were like, sound system sucks in it I think it sounds fine I mean you uh you can't crank it at low volume yeah it starts to cut up yeah I mean listen yeah it isn't got the fucking sound system that my fucking sion has that thing fucking bumps dude honestly all jokes aside my girl's

car has an insane stock sound system and it's fucking bumpier well it sounds yeah it sounds fucking crazy dude she didn't even know that the sound system was that good she got the car and then never messed with the stereo at all and when we started dating, obviously, because I'm a fucking nerd, and I play drums, and I like EQing stuff, I got into her car, notice she had a really nice head unit, I was like, hmm, you know, and I started going through the settings, and she had everything just set like stock. It was all flat, everything was at zero. Dude, I EQ'd the fuck out of it and, like, tuned it up. The stereo in there sounds crazy. Really? Yeah. Even our, dude, even our demos for the record in there sound fucking nasty. They smack in there. It's terrifying.

It's smacky. Yeah. It's got that hot, hot heat, dude. Dude, we're bringing the hot, hot heat. We're bringing the hottest of heat on this next one, dude. Oh, yeah, real quick, they would close off the Kia combo. I forgot who brought it up here, but someone brought up, I found out who the Kia boys are. Yeah, I was like, you know what's up with the Kia boys, dude?

I learned literally here. I forgot what Bennett was. But they were talking about Kia boys. That had to be peeling flesh. That's a peeling flesh conversation for fucking sure, dude. I forgot. Fuck. I'm willing to bet that was Jason and Soto that talked about the Ki-A boys.

This has got to be. But I'm saying, dude, if I- It's got to be. If I, if I come close to any Kia boy next to my Kia, I'm going to go full-on Chug Norris. Just hands-on-sight, dude. If you're a Kia boy, you are even five feet from my Kia, I'm going full Chug-N-R-N-I-It's game over.

It's game over. Chug-Norris, dude. Chug-N-Ris, dude. That's it. Yeah, I will I will fuck you up And during and also for 40s new tunes

I'm going full chugnors We have to You don't you don't have a choice dude You don't have a choice because I'm riding Fucking full chug norse drums to these fucking You're not you are having mental breakdowns I had one fucking bad day of writing No no

You had two Get the fuck out of here When I gave you a fucking four four chug nor is chug you fucking lost your mind listen I'm sorry that I come from a tech background okay fucking tech sucks dude no one no one even likes tech model dude

gosh I mean you know it's all right I like tech tech's cool it's not my first fucking pick of the crop but I listen to it yeah because your weaner is this it's it lacks it lacks a distance

I believe it's called death but you know that's Okay, dude, I'll let it fly. Would you rather have a long weener but super skinny or a short weener but like dense? Dense, dog, all day long. So you rather have a small, dense weiner? Dude, I won't, listen, I won't reach the back, but I'll destroy the sides, dude. That's where it's at, dude.

Look at Jay's turning colors over here, dude. Come on, dude. I'll destroy the sides? Yeah. What this? Who says that? I'll destroy the sides. I won't reach the back

Well you'll fuck the walls up dude You know what I mean? You know a term I heard Obviously Uh Boyfriend Dick Boyfriend Dick Like you want to give

You want to give your lady That boyfriend dick You know This is Yeah This is a real phrase I've heard it too That's the dick

That lasts 100% You know That's like There's love and ball There's Exactly I go

I go by percentage When you're a single guy being a piece of trash like I used to be, you got to give them the 70% dick. You can't give them the 110. Because then they start catching fucked up feelings and shit, and it gets fucking weird. But when you're in a relationship, you give them the 110, dude. That's just the nature of things, all right?

I don't write the rules I just enforce them, okay? That's it. Yeah, so I guess the people are learning. You don't give them that. that 110. Gotta give them like 70, you know? You want them to know that it's there and you can give them a hundred and ten if they, you know, act right, but, you know.

It does not feel like 10 months. No, it really, it really doesn't. The shit flew by too. It's kind of, it's kind of nuts. Like, it is very crazy. It is weird. It is weird. It's like, what the hell?

It was 10 months ago, man. Yeah. It was July or like June. I was in a weird place. I mean, we all were For a lot of fucking reasons I mean, obviously I was going through it

I know you were going through it We all kind of were I think we were all kind of like I hate using the term Figuring out what the next move was Because I mean at least bandwise We knew what the next move was And I do believe we did everything right

And now we're in a really sick position in space But I think just like in our personal lives I think a lot of us were kind of like Oh, at the drawing board again Type of thing I know I was Mm-hmm Yeah, I guess I really put on some

Big Boy pants for sure Yeah A new pair of Big Boy pants New pair of Big Boy pants You've been wearing like fucking eight different hats Dude honestly Kudos to you for that shit It's a lot dude

People out there in internet world Dude really have no idea The amount of work That is being put in behind the fucking scenes Right now by you and by us as a fucking group. It is. It's crazy.

It's wild. It's fucking wild. But I don't know that I'd want it any other way. No way. No way. And I'm also kind of, you know, much like you, much like me, I like I like to stay busy. You know what I mean? Like, downtime is sick.

I had my, I went on, I went on my first vacation, actual vacation this year. For the first time in like, fucking 15, 16 years or something like that, which is wild when I think about it. I went, you know, me and my lady went to Puerto Vallarta to Mexico and for like a week we were over there for like five, six days and had a fucking absolute blast. But it was weird. I didn't know how badly I needed to break

until I was there. Oh, nice. And I was like, oh, shit, like hold on. Everything's been so go, go, go, go, go. And then all of a sudden I was in a place where I'm like, oh, I don't have to worry about going to work. I don't have to worry about doing this right now. I don't have to, you know, answer the phone for this or whatever.

I definitely was still checking my emails of stuff for band stuff and all that shit, obviously. And not reading them. Skimming over them, quick skim. Giving them a quick skim and waiting for guards and hit the group chat and be like, Ernie, question mark, and be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm down. Whatever you say.

He's like, hey, you're out of the band, just let you know, I'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, whatever you say, dude, fucking cool. I'll see you guys in two weeks. No, I thought I thought it said I'm in the band. But that was, honestly, it was really cool, and it was also very like,

that was one of those moments where I was like, man, I, uh, I, uh, I, like, stopped and, like, paused for a second. And I was like, oh, man. Okay, cool. And it was actually really tight. It hit a big reset for me.

So when I came back home, I was like, all right, cool. Now I'm even more focused. This is what I got to do. I got to attack this this way. Get shit done. You know what I mean? And so it's cool.

It's cool, man. I think I'm like, I've, like, we, I know we talk about it. you know, in when we're and rehearsals and stuff like that, but like, the moves that have been made are really, really sick.

I'm really fucking excited about the rest of this year and next year. Next year is going to be fucking crazy. Yeah. Which will probably segue us right into what I'm going to talk about next. Let's see. Yeah, look at that. Jay New, dude.

He's like a fucking mind reader, dude. Boom. He knew, dude. Yes, dude. So, you know. Starting the year off, best case scenario. Yeah, with an absolute fucking banger. We haven't had a big tour in Europe in like years.

Forever. Years. Years and say what you want about slaughter, but there's arenas in there. I'm sorry, but that's kind of sick. Why are you sorry? You know what I mean? I, I am so stoked. I'm fucking horned up, dude.

I'm pumped. And I could care less what people think about it. People want to bring up. Alex's past. Hey, let's look at your past. Exactly. How about that?

The dynamic would shift very fucking quickly. And that's the dark side of humans, man. 100%. Anyone that will feel us to need to express someone else's wrong doings in their past. That's probably a 100% chance they've done darker shit, have darker skeletons in their... Always. It's always the people that bark the fucking loudest about it.

It's so weird. But Alex... Always. Alex is a good guy And Suza San's You like us or not You can say what you want

About our past But I'm very proud Of the other guys In the band Because Suza San's hats With a lot of bands Don't and you won't admit it

The bands will talk about it But everyone has spines We have backbones Whether we're right or we're wrong We back our decisions We stand on it We're just going to keep moving forward That's it

That's it. Especially when you've seen bands drop out tours because... For far less. For far less. Because the internet will attack you. But most bands have not... Most bands have not experienced, like, losing it before. We have.

So it's like, oh, it's like, okay, this is fine. It's going to pass, but most bands... And same thing, like, I know I haven't been around since the fucking beginning. But I'm also very standing firm in that same belief as well. You come up in an age like this now where... Everyone is so chronically online, and it's, some people don't realize, dude, again, and I've said, it's not healthy for you, dude. No, it's not, and the internet is not a fucking real place, dude. Go outside, go outside and fucking all that shit you talk on the fucking internet.

Go outside and do something about it, literally. Instead of being in your fucking basement talking shit, go outside. Go outside and make a difference. Go outside and start a band. It's going to play fucking arenas, dude, instead of talking shit in your basement. Sorry. You know what I mean? Like, it just, it is what it is.

I'm excited as fuck, dude We're gonna go to Europe in January It's gonna be like fucking Eight degrees wherever we go But I'm still gonna have an absolute fucking blast It's fucking awesome Those shows are gonna be sick It's awesome

It's gonna be just a tour full of fucking homies I can't fucking wait dude I cannot fucking wait I talk to a Talk to someone who's gonna come hang out with us For the UK shows You know who It's gonna be fucking awesome

I talked to him this morning He's very stoked Great. He was like, I'm home. I'm coming. I was like, sick. Which one? Which, which show?

London. London? Nice. Yeah, yeah. Dude, we're playing the Academy. We're playing the Brickson Academy. Yep. That shit's going to be wild as hell.

Finally, we're playing a massive show in London. Oh, yeah. Man. Yeah. It's taking a whole career to even get here, you know? But like anything, we've trudged through it, dude, and persevered and fucking never, never lost sight of the vision, you know? where some people lesser educated or fans might disagree. Unless you're in this fucking circle of five people,

you have no clue what you're fucking talking about. You have 0%. Even me trying to explain it. Even still like you need to be in. Yeah, to really understand what's going on. So that's why I never take any of that shit personally, offensively. I'm like, hey, listen, that's cool. You can listen to someone else.

You can go watch another band. Yeah, so we're doing this in a few months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it sounds washed up. And it will be sold out. So, you know, like Dan Kenny said, you know, for every one person online who was bitching about not coming to the show, eight of their fucking friends are going to come and have a blast. I try to tell the story as soon asance, man.

It's like, it's so, it amazes me how many times I got to say the same thing. Oh, for sure, for sure. Say it again and again and again because it's just people that just don't, you just got to drill it. Oh, hey, look, we're washed up, right? Well, I look sick. If you even take off the bottom half of that picture, that's a sick picture. That got way better That got way better

Hands down Get your shitty hands out of it Every time I see Every time I see this fucking picture That's a cool show Is it 100% the sweatiest outdoor show I have ever fucking played dude In Anish is a

It's a hot boy It fucks though dude That shit was so sick It fucks but it's a hot boy for sure And we did it on Marshalls You guys did it on Marshall Stacks Dude That was the show to us like all right

It's time to get quads Look at that I found a I know I make it I make it seem to you guys I don't play guitar but I play here daily I'll put some rips

I found something this month I learned how to switch to tuning oh the transposer which shout out to Blake from a disability tyrant

I used it for something else completely I was like oh you can mess with the tuning so I could go from like, you know, A to G I just, Boop Boop.

I was like, oh, what the fuck is he? You know who told me about that? Sid. It's insane. Yeah. Sid was like, oh yeah, you could just transpose it and he like did it and showed me.

I was like, oh, this is fucking crazy. And it doesn't change the quality of the tone either. It's so easy and it's fucking, it's crazy. And I'm right there. This might have been one of the videos I watch. I was like, you know, how to change tuning on on the quad.

I'm playing songs right now. I haven't played it since I was like a teenager. Like a, like, Stain has really awkward tunions. I learned. Yeah. I really learned much trouble, like, to T perfectly. I love that. I love that.

So it's basically like, it's dropped, drop D. And then, but the top screen is G sharp. So literally I dropped D and that one pitch. Now I'm G sharp and it's stained. That's so sick. And I'm finally, I finally learned at 39 years old mud shovel. And it's such a. I love it.

I love that. Like, damn, if I had it when I was a kid, wow, and also corn. Oh, yeah. The thing about corn is like you can't play corn songs on drop a tuning. No. I don't play corn songs really. But so I tune up, I tune up the B and then I drop it on the quad two steps. Yeah.

So now I'm standard A. Mm-hmm. And it's, that's corn. Once you do a power record, that's just, yeah. A song I've been playing a lot was, it's called counting. that that fucking clean riff dun dun dun you know oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so I'm playing corn songs now

I'm like oh wow this is dude it's honestly not only is that sick but I really I really do feel like just as watching kind of from the outside as a drummer when we're in the room I feel like ever since you and Mark got the quads I feel like it's also not only has it tightened up

your guys is playing considerably I feel like you guys are like a bit more inspired too because of like having a sick tool to like really like you know what I mean be a catalyst for like writing riffs and like jamming and having all that shit at your fingertips on this tiny little thing is really sick like dude if I was a guitar player I'd be fucking stoked you know what I mean it's it's it's all right there and and that's I think that's the main thing it's like inspiring oh yeah playing them oh this is oh wow okay this is fucking sick also I'm comparing it to pedals you know I I've used that small

like the Kirkobane chorus for I don't know how many years. Oh, that's been in your setup for ever. So I try to put the small stone through the fucking quad. And I compare the chorus on the quad. I was like, is it better? It's better. Wow, dude. It's sick.

It's sick, dude. That's honestly tight. Yeah, I take pedals in and out. The one that you can't really fuck with is the pitchfork. Anything octave or whammy, you need the pedal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need, and that's like the part of like the one is. Like, you can't really fuck with that.

Speaking of, speaking of, you know, spacey effects, a lot of people were commenting on the tour posts. They're like, we really want you guys to play Lifted in Europe. I was like, I'm kind of down to put that one back in the fucking set, dude. I mean, I'll go Chuck Norris. I love that fucking song, dude. I'm glad that we played it on the fucking Grint Tour. I like playing that song.

That's a sick one. It is a fun song to play. Oh, yeah. And with the choir, I can even make that tone. even more. That's what I'm saying. Dude, like have it sound

exactly like the fucking album. It might be tough, but we're only playing for 35 minutes. But it's going to make for an exciting set list because we really have to

grind out what fucking songs we're going to play or we could just fuck around and have two or three different fucking set list, dude, and really fuck the kids up.

You'll never know unless you come to a show. Metallica style. That's right. Fucking nerds. We'll see. Well, if we don't break up by then,

Yeah, we'll champ some songs. It'll be sick, dude. It'll be sick. We'll champ songs, see what works, see what doesn't. All I know is it's going to be a really sick time. It's going to be a good time. I can't fucking wait, dude. I haven't been this excited to go to Europe in a fucking long time.

Oh, dude, a long time. And I like going to Europe. Like, I enjoy going there, but now I'm extra fucking juice for this one, dude. I'm actually excited for this run. And then again, see people are like, you know, they're like, oh, I can't believe you guys are fucking opening this package. I'm like, brother, I'm going to be done jamming and sweating by like fucking 8 o'clock every day. You know how sick that is?

I mean, I get the freshest shower, the freshest fucking laundry, and then I get to just fucking hang out until it shows over and do whatever I want. That's what's up, dude. Honestly, that's what's up. Do you what one thing we're going to do, we're going to take a, we're going to take that pod. on the road. Suicide? It's happening? I won't...

Just because I won't... Because people like to take ideas and not give us credit. Yeah. So I got some pretty crazy ideas for the suey one. It'll rock. It'll rock. Yeah, so... It'll rock, man. Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to this run.

I'm like doing a tour just to pay the bills, you know? Yeah. Like, there's actual, like, purpose and meaning and, like, a lot of excitement for this fucking tour, you know? Oh, you know, you know the main purpose of this tour? What gets me really excited is like, it's such a great tour. I don't got to hear it from you, Dan Kenny, Mark, or Eddie. You guys are all satisfied. Oh, yeah.

Everybody has a tour to look forward to. Okay, now I don't, now I don't worry about it. Now they have something to look forward to. We could not do anything. Hey, listen, I feel like I'm the least problematic when it comes to that thing. I'm always happy to fucking be home and grind and do the things we need to do. to make shit happen. Do I love, I mean, do I love touring?

Fuck yeah. But I also like being fucking home and be able to, you know, sleep in my own bed and pooping my own bathroom every night. It's kind of sick too, you know what I mean? I'm just happy to be here, dude. Always. Always. Still ain't lost on me, dude.

I've got a couple more gray hairs over the fucking course of this year that have popped out. That's something that's changed. You know what I mean? Ten months. Got a few more gray hairs. A few more gray hairs. A few more. A few more gray hairs.

Few more, you know, just lessons wiser. I think my lady fucked me up, dude. Now I just look in the mirror I'm like, oh no. Oh no, this is happening. The brutal Latina truth, dude. I got hit with a brutal Latina truth

and a keyword truth. Exactly. It cuts like a knife, but they do it because they love you. You know what I mean? It's always with love. Yeah, I look three nine, man. You know what I mean?

I think you look fucking great, dude. But here's the thing too. You look 39 right now because you got a fucking beard and mustache. You shave that shit off. you look like you're fucking 31 again too true you do it's the same with me i haven't shaved in a bit either i'm pretty pretty fucking hairy right now too i was gonna take the mustache down a bit because i'm starting to look real fucking like the tapatio man and shit but my girl likes it so i might

let it just rock whatever just trim it up before we go on tour ladies we like facial hair they do because it hides how ugly we actually fucking are that's what it is man no it's it's it's dude it's listen it's racist it's just racist fuck look at you beards beards on guys is literally fucking, it's contour for men. Ernie, if you cut your hair and shave your beard,

you... I would look like that fucking guy, dude, for fucking sure. Look, we got the same cheeks, same eyes, same fucking eyebrows.

I would look like the tap of the old guy if I cut my hair like that. I mean, right now I might look like the tapathio guy, ate the top of the old guy, but, you know,

we're working on it, you know? You got a lot of... Oh, I got another fucking... I got a text also. More truth. I should have fucking It involved

Basically it was a nice way Saying that I need to go to gym It was just a nice way about But I got I I read it loud and clear You got you got you got the You got the friendly nudge fucking text Man

You better do some But one thing I have been doing I definitely I've drank a lot less The past few months A lot less I'm still drinking, but a way less. When's the last time you had a triple?

Last week. But you probably only had one though, right? I had one, yeah. There's little tricks here. I'll have one less here, one less there. I'm not going to this. I haven't been to a show in almost two months. It's been a fucking, it's been a minute.

Kind of cut back. So, yeah, Ernie, you're actually the first episode where this is like our kind of next chapter. Yeah. Yeah, really. Last chapter was, you ended the last chapter. Then we came back in August. Now this is our first one. Okay, this is a new one.

It's kind of sick because now we're like, a lot has happened. We're deep in the fucking writing process. Like, we have this tour announced. Moves are being made behind the scenes. It's sick, man. All of it's always exciting to me, but especially right now. Like everyone is, everyone's head is fucking screwed on tight and like shit's about to be sick. Oh yeah, see, look, that video clip you just put up, I only had one nose ring in that clip, dude.

I've got two. I've got another fucking hole in my nose. I've got two of these bad boys now. I'm not sure about that decision. You know. But it's all right, man. Hey, listen, every now and again, I get a wild hair in my ass. Put another hole in my fucking face.

I don't know. Maybe I'll do the septum next, you know? Oh, shit. We'll see what's up, dude. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm not going to fucking do it. Who cares?

That's kind of like one of the weird things about being the band. Like, there's no, there's nothing like you, you can kind of do what you want. And that's the scary part. Yes. You can't let it, you got to just know when to go extreme, but also know when to. Went to dial it back, for sure. Yeah. You know.

It can't spill over. Yeah. It's all, it's all smart decision making. That's what I like to think. God, my hair was fucking. super fucking blonde Jesus Yeah see look That's no mustache right there

That was You know Still shot Yeah still shot you know But no mustache Should I Chat what do you guys think Dude should I

Should I shave the fucking Crotch duster off Or should I leave it Yeah so Yeah so be honest In the comments Should uh I mean okay look look

Look even right here When they show you See it look Look if you shave your fucking face Dude Yeah It takes the fucking face You're right back off, dude.

It just depends. You know what I mean? It just fucking depends. Yeah, I like the mature. For sure. Like, you know what everyone tells me? Dude, I look, when I shave and wear a hat and I tie all my hair up in a hat, I look like I'm fucking like 26, 27.

But I don't like wearing hats anymore, really. They're kind of annoying. It gets hot. It's just one more fucking thing. It's just one more thing to put on. One more. I mean, unless it's the Adidas bucket hat that Garza has, you know, bring that thing back. dude.

I might bring it back. You got bring it back just one time. You know what? Bring it to Europe. That's a super Euro thing. It is. You could definitely blend right in

wearing that thing in fucking Europe. It is. Time flies, dude. Time flies when your life's falling apart. Actually, yeah. I mean, yeah, that's true.

No, man. Yeah, so yeah. Dude, in August, there was no, we had no templates, no systems, no calendars.

Nothing. Nothing, dude. So this is like a weird, like, oh, this feel, oh, wow. We have a straight head. Yeah. Well, and like anything, do they tell you? There's no easy way around it, do you? Oh, you fucking lost one pound there.

You got to go through. Yeah. Yeah. Thank God I've lost more since then. Holy shit. But yeah, man. Yeah. You know, I can't fucking reiterate enough, man.

Things, things are sick right now. man the movement is fucking sick i'm really happy with what we're doing music wise decision making wise tour wise just you know and just having like the band continuously be a fucking tight family unit is fucking sick you know it's dope it's uh the most crucial part absolutely everybody has to be connected properly yeah 100% i mean like and everyone knows it dude you're in a fucking you're in a band full time it is being in a in a five-way marriage, a real fucked-up five-way marriage. But, you know, or depending on how many people are in your band, five in our case.

Mm-hmm. You know, Garza hates me. I love him. We hate Dan Kenny. He loves us. It goes out. You know? It's crazy how the music industry, the dark side of our music fans, that dark side, have tried to get rid of us, and it didn't work.

It'll never work. It didn't work. It didn't work. It'll never fucking work, dude. You can't... This will snap other bands in half. 100%. I'm a firm believer in that term.

Iron sharpens iron. Mm-hmm. This fucking... This band really is like ironclad and fucking rock solid. You guys, even prior to me, have been put through the fucking ringer, come out the other side of it, still a unit, lost fucking loved ones, lost band members, all that shit, dude. And it's just like, yeah.

most bands would have tossed the fucking towel in the first time. You know what I'm saying? Still here. Still here and everyone, and I can say this as part of the band, that everyone that we work with and that, that's in the band and that we work with and that work with us, genuinely loves doing what we fucking do.

Like, I never, I still have yet to experience anyone give off that kind of fucking jadedness where it's like, man, fuck this. You know what I mean? And that's something that's really important to me because it's like, you know, I've said it before, dude. When I dropped out of fucking high school, I knew this was the only thing I wanted to fucking do. And it's sick to be as old as we are and still doing it and still having fun doing it and still doing it at the level that we're doing it despite what the internet or some industry fucking guy might have to say. Stop us.

You can't. Got an album with the name title, dude. Literally. Literally. That's that art imitating life right there. It's real shit right there. Yeah, that's just, they call it what's standing on business. Is that what, is that what?

That's right. That's right. Is that what the kids say out there? That's what the kids are saying, dude. The cool kids today, they're standing on business. It's so dark how people is tried so hard. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, dude.

You cannot fuck with us. No. They tried so hard. And what's weird, people would have a really hard time of, I get it. Like, you see a logo. So when you say, I'm not. When I say you, I'm talking about the people that try to fuck with us. Yeah, yeah.

When you say suicide sounds, it's very, it's blatantly obvious you're not using your brain properly. Like you literally can't process a thought and have zero foresight. And for that, I feel very sorry for you because that means you're not grown as a human being. When you say suicide silence, just understand, you're talking about me. You are talking about me. You're talking about my family. You're talking about my mom and dad in their 80s that are, I don't even know. tomorrow's not guaranteed.

They're a lot older. They've sacrificed so much for suicide sounds and Mitch's family and my girlfriend and our future family. When you say suicide silence and try to drag it down

and get rid of us, you're talking to me as a human. I'm just trying to not be a piece of shit. I'm trying to die. My purpose on this planet is I'm trying to die. I'm trying to die. It's a decent human.

That's all I'm trying to do. I'm just a guitar player. And when these people are just trying to like bring it down, I'm like, you're talking about me and my parents and my whole family, my future family have nothing to do with this.

That is some dark shit. That is fucking dark. And that's why I said what I said earlier. Unless you're the five of us or even the six, you know, from past members like Alex and Mitch and all that stuff, dude, unless you're in that fucking circle of people, your words hold fucking zero weight and you truly don't know anything about what we do, what we know, and how we go about doing things. So that's why, you know, it's like, it's why, again, I never lose sleep at night over someone's fucking internet opinion. You know, or negativity. I'm like, all right, dude. I don't lose sleep, but it helps me get up in the morning.

For sure, for fucking sure. If that makes sense. Absolutely. Anyone who knows knows that phrase makes a lot of sense. Same for me, too. I sleep good, but when I wake up, it is there and I fucking get my ass up. Yeah, gets the fucking job done, you know what I mean? And also, if anything truly happened, I always say this, like, if anything was truly wrong with suezance and I feel someone was truly fucked up as a person, I would be the first to pull the plug.

Yeah. Like, no doubt. But, you know, you got to give people chances and you got to grow. And if I personally believe everything is fine, then we wouldn't be a band. 100%. Because why being a band we had no fucking money? For a long time. Like there's no, like what's keeping us here is,

it's always been about the music. 100% first and foremost. Still, still does. So, yeah, fuck everybody. It always goes back to that.

It's fuck everybody. Look at that. Look at that fucking group of dudes right there, dude. You don't listen to suffocation, fucking poser. You're all, you're all fired. You're all fucking fired.

I'm taking all the publishing. I'm taking the whole five dollars. He's like, can you guys guys? a check, send it to my direct deposit real quick. Should be pretty easy. And I'm buying a beer. Yeah?

You know what? One beer. Did you use that royalty check to get that sick pack of fucking Reese's peanut butter cups, dude? I've been thinking about eating them, but... I've seen you eyeball him a couple times. Except, but then I have another thought, like, should, I just wait for dinner. He's going to ruin his dinner if he eats him now. I do believe...

I do believe in spoiling your dinner. I don't think you should do that. You know, every once in a while, it's okay, but I think these would be a cool after-dinner. Treat. Yeah. Oh, and also, real quick to our close off this dark subject, one thing I don't, I don't put enough emphasis on is the people that defend you. That's pretty fucking sick. Yeah. Everyone that comes out to the shows and buys the shirts and even in the comments, that's pretty, that's fucking sick. That's what I'm saying. And thank you. Yeah, thank you to those fucking people that believe in what we do, that support the fucking vision, support the band, support what the band has always.

strive to fucking be about and continues to be about. And yeah, you know, again, I can, I, the fucking list goes on and on. I can say so many good things about it. And I'm just, I'm fucking happy to be along, to be a fucking part of it, to be a part of this band's fucking legacy and history, man. It's, it's sick to fucking be here. I'm excited as fuck. We're excited as fuck to unleash hell on these kids fucking next year, dude.

God damn, dude. Going full chug Norris. Chug Norris, dude. I was thinking about this today. I'm gonna feel like I'm cheating. Even like the thought of like sitting down a day and just playing guitar and writing, sounds wrong. If all you're doing is playing guitar, there's people like me that are going to fuck you up that are doing everything. It sucks.

Trust me. I mean, it happens. It cript in your head, like wearing so many hats. Sometimes it does spill over to like the music. Yeah. But in the end, you like, you. You always is, you can't deny that it makes you a better person. And that's what pisses me off.

It makes you better person. So, so you can't really hate it, but just a thought of like, once the work is truly done and shit's, it's an oil machine, like this podcast, it's an oil machine. Things are cool. Just the thought of sitting back and playing guitar, I'm like, damn, you're fucked. If you're going up against me, I'm literally going to kill you without even like, there's not even like a close, second place. There's not even, you're like,

you're years, years past. We're coming for your heads. And just, and just call me Chug Norris. I'm going full Chug Norris. Chug,

fucking Norris, dude. I'm not there yet, but I am going full Chug Norris, he's got a second right hand on top of his other right hand, dude. Shit's crazy. There he is,

dude, the man himself, Chug Norris, dude. Are you going to wear that shirt on stage to you? Unbuttoned, dude? I want another shirt. I mean, like, my face in there,

just chug Norris. Take every like Maybe like the back is like Burning all like the other bands Or like or like they're like hung That's the most damn shit ever I'm just like looking down naked No you should you should fucking

Key shorts Waring the fucking Chuck Norris shorts We're wearing fucking churner shorts Waring fucking jorts Dude, what if you were like the fucking, like, the puppet master in your fucking hands have them all fucking hanging from your fucking fingers? That's hard too, dude. Jesus!

Action passed, dude. Regardless with the work, I do feel of that deep, competitive side coming back. It's like, I'm, you know, pissed off again. I was always, oh, it's good. We need it. It's nice. We need it. It's very needed.

I miss it. It's, it's the sickest. It's honestly the sickest. If you hear me talking about you, just, if you see me in person, you have just I will say too worse

to you you're welcome that's it that right there Garza's coming up to you like that right there dude The two Draco's

just fucking smoking dude Yeah you don't want to fuck with that guy You don't Look at his fuck He's got the lemon pepper steppers on

dude Imagine me with this outfit I'm going to Crazy work dude Crazy work I'm gonna write the record In this topic Man

I'm gonna write the record With this outfit And that's it That's it That's, that, dude, that outfit creates fucking riffs, dude. Scary riffs. I do feel the competitive that, it's like deep. It's like coming out.

It's like, kind of fly out. I'm like, oh, there it is. There's that fucking eight-year-old kid. It's like, this pissed. Someone's taken up. Kind of, kind of, immature. Oh my God, dude. These keep getting fucking better and bettered.

Dude, I need a bazooka. I need a fucking bozook. Bazook. Bazook blast? Yeah. Bazu Blast on the record, dude For the bazooka Rift,

dude Speaking of Bazooka, I got number three coming. It's almost done. Number three is coming. Oh, word?

Yeah, I'm gonna call it. Holy shit. I'll probably name it. Damn. Chub Norse. Number three. Lucky number three, dude. That's crazy work.

Fuck. Number three is coming. It's probably I probably be done in the... I know we talked about it and we can't talk about it and tell me what's rough like the colors that you're doing there.

I know you told me a night. Oh, I'll tell the color. It's going to be a pearl, pearl white. Oh, that's okay, okay.

I've always wanted a white guitar. Always. Damn, dude. Always wanted. Classic but modern. God, it's gonna be so horned up, dude.

It's gonna be you. Are you, are you going? No, no fret markers, too? Same, yes, same.

Same specs. Same thing. Fuck yeah. Things are gonna be so hard, dude. It came out of nowhere, too. I don't know where. It did evolve a game of golf.

So golf is sick. Golf is really... Golf is tight. Dude, first promo photo I'm going to take. It's going to be me next to the Kia. Club Rio with the fucking strats next to you, dude. I want to have the strat next to the fucking white Kia. You need to stand on the roof of the fucking Rio, dude, with both fucking rigs in your hand, dude, and the third one behind you.

That's it, dude. That's it. Yeah, so this is going to be... It means a big hard body, dude. This is going to be in a promo shot. To me honest, I'm tired of all these guitar players are posting their fucking sick cars. It's dumb. I'm going to post my- He's posting the fucking Kia with the fucking guitar rig.

With the fucking fender strap. With the Kia? Hard. Fuck, everybody. God damn, dude. You got me juiced. Now I'm all fucking juiced up, too, dude. I'm fucking.

I'm bringing the hot, hot heat, dude. The hottest of heat. I'm bringing that hot. I'm almost there. I'm not there yet, but I'm close. There's always a new. Obstical. A new obstacle.

New obstacle. But they're necessary. They're necessary. I gotta find a drummer. I gotta find. I gotta go on Craigslist. You gotta go shirtless and fucking don't shave your chest so that you're just like that, dude. I will admit here, I don't have that hairy of a chest.

No, no, neither do I. Even if you don't shave it, like, damn, how do you have that, how are you that hairy? I think Mark might be the only one who's probably close to being that hairy. That's fucking hairy. That's it. Yeah. None of us are, none of us are. What's their hairy boys?

Chuck Norris probably has a hairy wiener. For sure. For sure he does. There's no way he doesn't. Are you fucking kidding me? Okay. If someone paid you a thousand dollars. Oh, here we go.

Is someone paid you a thousand dollars? Okay, I'll give you a thousand dollars right now in cash. Fresh cash. Okay. Would you rather touch Chuck Norris's wiener or his balls? But you have to touch one to get the thousand dollars. That could be yours. I'm probably going sack

You're going to touch a sack? I'm probably going sack You're going to touch Chuck Norris's sack? Dude, I feel like touching Chug Norris' fucking sack Probably like Will give me some crazy

Like extra amount of testosterone Because he's a fucking man's man Dude, I don't know There's just He's probably got juju dude I would touch a sack for a thousand bucks That's gay though 20 bucks is 20 bucks

Dude fucking Listen, all right I'm not fucking scared Okay but there's There's also catch. Oh, oh, okay. All right. Hold on. Pause. No ditty. Roll it back. What's the fucking catch. You got to give me 15%. There's a finder's fee. All right. Hold on a second. I get, I get the finder's fee. I'm bad at math. It's 15% of a thousand. Somebody quick. I just been on like this chug Norris kick.

Oh, 150 bucks? All right. That's fine. I give you 150 bucks. That's cool. Appreciate that. That's a good deal. That's good deal. I appreciate that, man. you know there's no time limit at how long I got a touch right I could just like give him the love tap and get fucking paid I just I don't grab like I got a fondle

it's gonna be like a solid like 100% a 110 grabbed he always moves his old yeah he always moves the cold post oh my god that's why I'm making sure

because we're because we're negotiating the contract in real time So it has to be like a 1 10% grab. All right. Full ball grab for $1,000 and I give you $150. Yeah, I'll still do it. I'm not scared, dude. Oh, yeah.

After a workout. After a workout. All right. Okay, that tips the scale in the other direction. Don't be a pussy about it, dude. If it's after the workout, I'm not giving you this. 15% I'm keeping the extra 150 yeah that that's the deal or no deal right there dude that's it like yeah that's after a workout I'm good I know how gross my balls are when we get

off stage dude I would not want to touch someone else's nuts like that dude fuck that okay this conversation took a hard left turn really fucking quick how did we get here no one more and then I won't stop I promise right one more hit me with the hot hot heat okay okay let's say Your job in the band is seriously at at Jeopardy. And it's only one way that you could save your job. It's only one way. I knew it was happening one day, dude. And we have a fucking direct support tour with sleep token.

We're fucking playing the form. And we're getting paid more than a sleep token because we're sick. But there's only one way that could save your job. What is it? Is you got to make eye contact with Chuck Norris's boner for one hour. you just had to look at it. Oh, like look at it? Yeah, I can do that. Like eye contact.

Yeah, it's fine. Okay. You fuck? That's fine. I'm staring at an object. Yeah. Whatever. And then you had to, and then when,

then when the fucking, then when the hour's over, you had to hold his hand and be like, thank you. Thank you for this beautiful moment. I'm telling this was a lovely tea party, dude. Absolutely, dude. I'm not scared.

Okay. I'm not fucking scared, dude. And then after that, I'm just kidding. Okay, and then after that? No, then, well, I really, Ernie, I really appreciate your dedication to this band.

Dude. And that's how. I'm here. I'm here. And that's how you do it, man. That is. That is how you do. You show it for your boys, dude. You know what I mean?

Look at them, dude. All greased up and shit, dude. That's crazy. He's greased up. It's going to go on for a while. And I think, uh, there has to be shirts, dude. Because I'm always looking for ways And you always to say chug

And when I heard chug Norris I'm like Why didn't I think of that? Honestly, it was like the fucking Like the light bulb fucking went off Because Dan King said it But he said it in the different way He met chug like

Chug beer Right, right Because that's what we're like Oh, okay And then you were like wait No chug nor yeah I was like Fuck

Good God dude Like I'm thinking like Chug me Like chug now Or like Chug me up or own

Only chugs, dude Only chugs Man chug Norris is like That's what's so crazy about English Like when you find word combinations You're like what the fuck They're endless You just gotta find them

Chug hub dude What's the hub? No porn hub is dark dude That's just dark Well I have a couple more things Ernie Shoot Before we wrap up this beautiful moment

Yeah One it's what's on your mind what is on what is on what's on my mind yeah oh man uh nothing okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no i'm i'm uh i'm uh i'm just excited to get back to writing this uh this coming this coming week which we're in tune very very very very close very very very close did i miss anything what what's been going on uh with with the internet the internet I'm feeling like I'm missing something. I don't know.

Oh, wow. He fuck. Jada's brought my mind. Oh. Jad is buried my mind. Yo. Damn. Well, shout out to Nick O'Hunnel, man.

It's sad, but it's probably taking a little break. Again, I watched, I watched his video about it and all stuff. And we kind of talked about it a little while ago. Like, you really never know what someone's going through, especially, you know, you know, And I kind of never really thought about it in the manner that he explains it when it's like, that's a dude whose job in life has been online for the last, what, 10, 12 years or whatever? Like, that's fucking crazy, truly. And he said it, you know, it is, it's, there's a lot of parallels when it comes to what he does and when it comes to what we do.

You know, you, it's like there's still a job to be done. It's like for us, you know, we go on fucking tour and a loved one back home, passes away or some shit like that. And a lot of the times it's like, you can't go home. You got to keep, you have to keep touring. You have to keep fucking, you know, dancing for the fucking big man or whatever you want to call it. And it does take its fucking toll on you.

But at the end of the day, what I guess all that to say, kudos to Nick for realizing that he's like, hey, you know what? This is not good for me right now. I need to fucking take some time away and, you know, get my shit together. all this stuff. I respect it, man, because it's like, it is. That shit, your, your mental health is fucking important, man. And, you know, it's first and foremost that stuff is really important. You can, you can get so sucked into it all and not realize that you're crumbling beneath the fucking surface until, until it happens. And you're just like, holy shit, where of the last 10, 12

years of my life gone, I've missed all this stuff. I've had to de-prioritize things to, you know, get on the internet and make a video for people on the internet because it's my job and stuff like that. It's, it's really wild. It's really crazy. I watch the whole thing on the on the way home from work. And yeah, man, shout out Nick. I hope he's doing well. I hope he's getting the rest he deserves and the fucking, you know, rechargeing the batteries. And hopefully he can get everything, get everything sorted, get him, get himself into a good place mentally and, you know, come back at some point. Maybe even come back, who knows?

Yeah, you know. Come back or not. But if not, none of us would be upset or blame you for it. You know what I mean? No, you got to take care of yourself. Yeah. I've seen it happen, man. He's a very hard worker.

For sure. Period. For fucking sure. And people start YouTube without even knowing exactly the way it is. It's a fucking, how do you explain this? It's like something that you put coal in. Yes. It's like a furnace or something?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. you know like a coal-powered furnace or a fucking um you know yeah and it's and you have to stoke the flame constantly and feed the fucking meter and you know you get to you get to a fucking point where yeah you know like yeah like looking at this right here you have you built this from the fucking ground up you built that from the ground up and there's still so much room for growth and all that shit but if people really knew

the amount of work that goes into making those numbers happen even to where that's at is daunting. It's crazy. It is crazy. And I'm not saying this shit because I'm your bandmate and I'm in a band with you and we're friends.

You genuinely are one of the hardest working fucking people I have ever encountered in my life when it comes to doing this. And when you talk about wearing the multiple hats and shit like that, that's not me like, you know, fucking jerking you off or whatever. It's like, it's crazy. dude. You have

four different full-time jobs outside of being in this fucking band. It's crazy. It's crazy. But you make it work. You know what I mean? And also shout out our guy fucking Jay back here, dude. It's been me and Jade is grinding, man. Literally.

It's literally. It's only like a two. I believe in the Joe Rogan model have a fucking circle so fucking small, dude. So all you have is people that you trust. It's it. One, or two people maybe, tops,

tops. That's it. Yeah. Every clip, people don't know this, so you can't have to, like, talk about it.

Every clip you see, all the social media stuff you see, it's Jay and it's handcrafted. Yeah. You, I could tell when I see like an AI clip, everything is, all this you see are handpicked

by me and Jay and their handmade. Yeah. And that, that constitutes you guys sitting, in here going through hours of fucking footage to get the clips. And I know that. Everything is chosen by us. Everything is chosen by us.

To the name, every little thing is heart and soul. So if it does well, sick, if it pops, or who cares? Yeah. It's everything that we have literally handpicked. But I respect that about it too because it's so like it truly is like organic and done by the two of you.

This isn't some shit that you guys throw into a generator and be like, cool, it's going to make a fucking clip here. We're going to put it up and just let it be up fucking easy street it's like you guys are doing the fucking work that's awesome it's awesome man and like i said these just the machine as a whole dude it's a it's a crazy time right now it's crazy i wish people knew yeah it's uh it's it's it's a it's a furnace like it's constant coal and once you stop putting coal in there it stops yeah it'll bring it is shocking how like it stops so i do feel for like i guess you could call them YouTubers or influencers because for us i mean it's

we we get this yeah so there's work and it it fucking sucks sometimes but we get like the in-person interaction and there's and there's this there's always this payoff yes yes we we get the hang out with chris barnes and shit we get to talk to you we have in-person stuff

and even us this is fucking crazy dude this is tough on our minds 100% emotionally like this is crazy so the idea of it not Not having the payoff, I honestly couldn't do it. So I do feel sorry for like, you know, like people that live on the internet. And that's, you got to put out content, content, content.

Like, where's like, where's the payoff? Yeah. Yeah. Where's the fucking pay off. It's a wild thing, dude. The internet is a wild place. You know. Like, you need that human connection.

For sure. For sure. That's why I was, honestly, it's why I was so stoked to come back in here and fucking do this. It's been such. I'm like, damn, fuck yeah. We just picked right up where we fucking left off. I love that. And it's cool because it's just like still kind of completely separate from the riding process and the band stuff.

But you know what I mean? Like we're just, we're fucking hanging. We're hanging. We're in here fucking chopping up. Dude, it's nice. It's nice to be back. I'm glad I made the drive down from L.A. Yeah.

Next time we'll pick a day where we're not working. So, well, next time we'll get fucking hammered. I'm down. Yeah. Yeah. Do me, me and just browsing the internet and like it's kind of weird like seeing, I don't know how to word this, but like you see like the thumbnails. It's like a someone reacting to another YouTuber that's reacting to that thumbnail. It was like a weird thumbnail.

I'm like, dude, this is. Thumbnailsception, dude. This is weird, dude. I'm sorry. I back the content thing, but it got really weird. I don't know if you guys saw it. I don't know when the post went up. It might have been this morning or yesterday.

But I think what's his name on Instagram? Breakdown King made a post with the Garza podcast clip in the, the back that somebody was like also like talking about i just saw on the way to work it's uh oh where is it at this guy post so much shit holy crap dude he's he's he's he's on there shout out dude i respect it dude it's it's a lot dude is fucking crazy oh right there there it is yeah he's like caught these two watching people in flesh yeah yeah the shit has mad views that's crazy wow see the YouTube stuff and

actually I've been hearing this has actually been going on for many years is like you like kids in the high school in college like oh I want to grow up and be like a YouTuber or like a influencer but you don't really know the work it's work it's not like you just go on YouTube

everybody wants to be a YouTube or an influencer until it's time to be a fucking YouTuber and influence and they realize how much you actually got to fucking do and they're like oh you know what maybe not you know it's true it's true it's like legitimate work well because you also like anything else you also have to remember what you're seeing on the fucking screen is this much of what's actually going on in the background to get to that point

and that's a lot of people still don't grasp that concept you know and i don't blame them or anything like that but yeah it's it's fucking wild man it's a shillot of work it's a shillot of work and it's a shillot of work for a very very small demographic of people who are actually psychotic enough to do it. That entails people like you and myself and that handsome guy over there. You know what I mean? It's crazy. I mean, coming from me, I couldn't do it.

I can't talk shit. I couldn't do it. Like, again, we've had conversations. I remember you hit a fucking moot point a couple times where you were just like, oh, dude. Fuck, man. This is like, yeah. A couple mental breakdowns. Like, dude, this is like so much work.

But at least we have like, You have the constant light of the headed and tunnel. And the constant, you have constant payoff. You're hanging out with people. It's like that, that human connection, that's, that's, that's the payoff. It's true. And you hear about it. And like, so that, that's sick.

But to do this and then had not the, no connection? I couldn't do that. No, fuck, no. I couldn't do that. So hats off to people that do that. That's not me. Yeah, no. No. And I think that's also something really special in this platform, too,

with you in mind, like doing this thing, you know, in the music world and shit like, that like, dude, sometimes I'll just go click on the page and just scroll the thumbnails and look at all the fucking people that you've talked to in the last four years. It's wild. It's fucking crazy, dude. It is wild. And you've really still only scraped the fucking tip of the iceberg. There's still so many other sick guests that you're going to have sitting in this very

fucking chair, dude. It's going to take my whole life. Yeah. This is like a lifetime. Yeah. It's funny. I know, like, if you're starting a podcast, you need. need to think like 20 years 40 years ahead i've already done my mental vision yeah i'm on the five-year

plan then the 10 year plan the 15 years like the 30-year plan there's things that i'm thinking about that i know no one else thinking about how am i going to do this then i'm always planning for like trend uh changes and uh but it's it's it's a lot dude look at that it is and goats and this is not even like we have even i know we have me a scratch the surface that's what i'm saying i keep saying i keep telling people my brain right now is at 60%. I'm not even like, I'm clear ahead, but I'm still not anywhere near where I need to be. I'm still,

I'm still figuring. There's no one that I can call it, but how do you do this? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're kind of, so me and Gior are kind of left to just kind of figure things out. So, but,

but once I'm at 100 and we're flying, and the only way you, and this is like a weird thing, like the, the, I don't know, I don't know what you call it. Like the listening, muscle, like the focus muscle, it's a very, it's an extremely fickle and weak muscle. If you're not constantly doing it, it goes away quick.

Yep, it does. And it's scary. It's like, sometimes someone will sit down and start doing it like, I forget how to do it. Like, really? We did one two weeks ago. It's a very weak muscle. So if you, if you want to, you got to condition it constantly. Constantly.

And we put out a podcast every two weeks. And I'll argue, that's not enough. Yeah. If you're not putting out a podcast at least once a week, like I had nothing to tell you. Like there's, there's, there's,

there's, there's still no way for you to get better. There's no way. Yeah. And we put out two weeks. And even now, I'm like, damn,

maybe we should, I, I, I'm talking, maybe I should do like one more or somewhere. Like, it's, it's such a weak,

weak muscle. And it goes away so, it's not like riding a bike. It goes away so fucking quick. I'm like, yeah, you have to keep it fucking. It's,

it's shocking. walking sometimes. And we're at like, we're almost like to a 200. I'm like, it's nothing. Fuck. It's nothing.

That's fucking crazy. 200 podcasts is nothing. You're like, maybe you're like kind of walking up to like the like start like start of like the race. Yeah. Like walking kind of kind of us in the band. Yeah. We're what are at our eighth record.

Yeah. It feels like we're just starting. I've been saying that a lot, but it feels like, okay, now we're at the starting point. Mm-hmm. Okay, cool. And I love that.

I fucking love that, dude. It's fucking... Just work. But, man, it is... Right there. It is worth it. Click that, click that picture of Mayhem Garza. Right there, dude.

That's... That's a few pounds lighter. That's all you need to know right there, dude. Fuck with me. There's a guy that's gonna turn 40 and headbangs harder than all the upcoming my espades at the core bands. That's factual shit right there.

What's up? I will head bang harder than all these bands that are supposedly killing it. I will fuck you up. Strongest back, strong as back and neck in deathcore, dude, besides Corps grinder. Yeah, he's, he's, he's the go. Course grinder is the go. It is fucking wild.

How old is he? Like, 55? I look at him like, oh, I'm okay, I'm ch-oh. That's, that's called conditioning every day, dude. That dude's deck is conditioned to just do that. Look at that fucking shit. Is this recent? God, dude.

Is this recent? Oh, my. Holy fuck, dude. See, this is what it's all about, dude. This is my North Star. Course Grindr. Monkey. I know.

And I think Angus Young might be in there because he's old as fucking so trying to do his thing. He's still going. So those three guys are my no star. Jesus Christ, dude. You have all these bands in their early 20s don't even fucking move. Are you serious?

Good God, dude. This is the goat. You cannot fuck with that, dude. Honestly, I can't do that. That's insane. I would throw up on myself, dude. I would throw up so quick, dude. There's things that, of course, granted with head being harder than me,

but I got a few moves that could rival him. You got some moves in the box that you let out every now and again. See, that's what it's all about. Straight up, straight up. That's what it's all about. Jesus. We got a hot, man. God dang it.

That hot heat, dude. Do we miss anything? I feel like I went on a few rants. Look, look, that was just back in October, dude. All this is. Going in the paint right there. Ready? We're just ranting.

That's right, dude. Look at that. Look at that. That's a strong fucking back and neck right there if I've ever seen one, dude. That's yoga. That's it, dude. Yoga and gym. That's it.

Now you guys know the secret, dude. Stretch, do yoga. Go to the fucking gym. Eat bean and cheese burritos, dude. Keep your fucking neck strong. Dude, all the secrets are born as special. fuck. But it's

what gets the fucking job done though. You gotta I try not be that guy. Like I don't want to be like the self-pop guy

but you gotta get up really you gotta make your fucking bed go to gym yoga. It's true. It's true, man. It's the discipline.

It's just like. It just works, dude. There'll be a time where I skip the gym and I come in here so unfocused and it blows me away. Again,

that fucking weak, that brain like is a weak muscle is like, oh you're gone. Yep. I missed a gym a week and I'm a fucking idiot now And I think it also

I think real like real talk I think also age affects it a lot too The age is scary you have to keep it sharp Dude I've always said this dude And I will continue to say this until the fucking day I'm dusty And in the fucking ground dude My grandpa made it to 101 years old But he kept his fucking brain sharp

Until the day he was gone dude And that is really what has given me Wow That like the insight and like the knowledge to be like okay cool like you know it's it's easy it's easy in your life to like you know as an aging fucking person to be like man like all right like that's it i'm getting old or i'm starting to fucking fizzle out it's the the moment you start letting your fucking brain even believe that it'll start happening because for me that's where it starts it's like it's your it's your

brain your brain is your main fucking frame it controls everything and if you keep your fucking brain sharp and your focus fucking raises sharp and you're constantly challenging your brain to fucking learn new things and read and and just stay mentally fucking sharp I actually feel like it does help you not only a age a bit slower but it keeps your fucking brain healthy and fucking young because it is a muscle too it is there's tissue in it and all like you know what I mean and I really do feel that way and you know shout out my fucking grandpa rest in peace 100 to 1, dude, and literally still sharp as a fucking knife.

Yeah. It's crazy as fuck. That's sick, dude. Yeah. You know, I aspire to be that fucking guy, man. 100%, dude. That dude lived with purpose and integrity

till the very fucking end, dude, and I'm like, cool, man. That's all I want to be like. That's awesome, though. Yeah, 100% dude. Hard. Only guy I know that worked harder than you. Definitely.

definitely an insane fucking work ethic dude but it's awesome that I have that I have you as a friend and a bandmate to also look up to you with your fucking work ethic too it's like sick it's not you know what I mean it's cool to know there's other people that fucking want to work that hard too and be like yeah that always keeps side of the

fucking vision that's and Nash was shit dude you know what else is working though it's uh my dude I'm always horny yeah that'll also keep you pretty fucking motivated too I'm not gonna lie I'm pretty fucking juice 24-7 also so there's that

that's great we're getting older and we still got that still got the fucking the heat dude that hot hot heat dude well testosterone is a primary male sex hormone there you go I learned that right now this is very true

what's exciting is a yeah Jay's killing it we're killing it it's fucking but there's it seems like whenever like there's like a plateau he always break through and you have like a new emotional and mental capacity. For sure.

Because right when I think, oh, this is, I'm done. This is where we're at. But like, you break through it. Like, oh, wait, you can handle more. You can handle more. You can handle more and not get burnt out. Burnt out is from this, which, you know, I felt out, you know, not having a good system. You know, and if someone says they're working smarter and not harder, they're fucked.

100%, dude. I'm working smarter and harder. Dude. How can you do more, just be a little bit more wise and more focused. and no. I believe it was God's hate that said this. Life is hard.

Be harder. Yeah. That's fucking right, dude. That's fucking right. I need that like a... Right there. That's right. Be harder.

That's right. They should make like boxers or something. Or like some kind of... They have six shorts, but I'm not going to lie. Dude, a pair of gods hate briefs. I'd wear them.

Briefs, yeah. Dude, briefs? Fucking be harder right over the fucking junk, dude. I'll wear them shits in a second, dude. That'd be hard where people will buy it. That's right. Dude, shout out. Shout out the young brothers, Taylor, Colin, love them.

Free idea. Free idea. Free ideas. Free ideas. Be harder. Let's go. Dude, they have swag merch. Yeah, yeah, those shorts are hard.

I'd wear those shits in a second. I'll see pictures of their merch pop up on, like, social media. I'm like, they had the best merch. They have sick fucking merch, dude. They do. They really do. I see the, I see that thought and creative. Oh, yeah, absolutely, dude.

That's fucking dope. Like, damn, why don't we get sick? The camo tracks suit, let's go, dude. The matching hoodie and sweatpants? I bet you could spin kick in those fucking things all day long, dude, for sure. I will spin kick you wearing those pants. Is that going to be your new pajama rig for the bus or what, dude? Let's go.

No, I'm wearing the, I'm wearing the, fucking corn track suit. To bed? After the show, you're going to put it on and sleep in your bunk like this? That might be my after show outfit. When the show is over, I'm going to walk around with the corn track suit and drink a lot. See, okay, see, here's the thing, though. You're right on the money with that, too.

You know why? Because that track suit is loud as fuck. Hell of European also. You're going to blend right in wearing that fucking thing in Europe, too. Are you kidding me? I won't even stand out. Dude, you and Jack will be fucking twins. You guys are both going to be wearing Adidas track suits.

the entire fucking time. I should probably do that. Look at those things, dude. Fuck yeah. The Russian tracks. I will say I feel so cool with it. I'm like, I feel like. Honestly, it's a sick-ass jacket, too.

I'm like, this is me. Wait, do you have the matching pants? Yeah, I do. Oh, shit. Have you worn them? They're massive. They're like baggies. Oh, that's right.

That's right. I need to get them like, what's that? Fucking tailored. Yeah, tailored. Yeah. I mean Man I mean the

The wiener is happy But yeah for sure It's got room But you know It's like it's still but too New Metal I feel it I know what you mean

I was never like a Janko's guys Yeah Damn Jenko shout out the boys In Orthodox Oh speaking of a sick album You heard that new Orthodox

album? No Boy That John is Heavy Yeah Oh yeah That new Orthodox is

That new Orthodox is fucking sick as shit. Real fucking sick. Well, Mike's a better drummer than you, so. Mike is a better drummer than me. Mike is fucking goaded, bro. They're gonna be here in August, right? They are, yes.

This will be one of the shows I'll be at. They're actually here on Shiloh's birthday. Oh, wow. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Ah, they're so fucking sick. Dude, I love fucking Orthodox.

Shout out the boys in Orthodox. They are. They are heavy. Some good. boys right there man good boys and also and shout out to uh lepanic guitar players i love him i love he is a psycho dude his riffs are fucking crazy and he plays a guitar upside down and fucking it's just it's so fucking crazy dude that's just a talented bunch of fucking dudes right there dude all of them all of them and yes mike is a better drummer than me and also's a better

guitar player than me you know they're insane dude handsome shiloh crebs dude denim dan all that fucking jeans on I love it love him but they're all you know big pants music they're all about the ginkos

and the big pants I love it of course they rock that shit dude dude wait till I start practicing it's gonna be over for all you bitches

dude wait till I start wait till I practice for the first time in my whole life when I have to sit down and just try to practice

I have some uh is you playing right-handed that's not awesome that's their other guitar player Ben they have a guitar player yeah I think he's

I think he's a new addition to the band oh yeah but also sick as fuck super sick yeah man they're sick I love Orthodox I would also love to tour with them at some point as well too I know we've tried in the past yeah but

but you ruined it so okay Ernie had this name where like what talk about hey maybe we should get this band on the on a tour and he'll literally DM on our text from and call him hey you guys you guys are on the tour I was like, let's get this thing

fucking done. No, I was like, no, we got like, go to the proper channels. Oh, my shit. Sorry, you guys aren't on tour. Here, real quick, though, click that fucking video of Austin. Right, yeah, there.

That's the fucking... Dude, playing like that is so fucking crazy. It is fucking wild. It's confusing. I love it. But it sounds so sick, though. It looks so cool. Gates to hell.

Yo, I think you left your guitar upside down. Fuck yeah, dude. Shout out Orthodox, man. Fuck yeah. Things are sick. We had a malevolence in here and I was playing Josh's Ibanez.

It just looks hot. Is it sick? Yeah, it's hot. It's like a sunbursts and a but he's left-handed. I was playing lepanded. Oh, yeah, yeah. It is.

You would think it translates. You were like. It's weird. It's weird as fuck. Yeah. It's like kind of sound like shit. It's like, oh, trying to do it. You're trying so hard to fucking do something.

Oh, just something. Real quick speaking of my loved ones. What just happened with their fucking music video? It got taken down? You know about this? No. So they filmed, I guess, a portion of their music video in front of the National Trust. And the National Trust reached out and had the fucking video removed.

No. Because apparently you're not allowed to fucking fill. film on there, yeah, has been taken down after the UK's National Trust got irritated by the band filming on a public walking path that was like near it. What the fuck? Which is fucking crazy. I'm like, what? Like, yeah.

Like, because I, you know, I follow them on Instagram or whatever and they put, they're like, hey, we're sorry to the fans that we had to take this down because of the National Trust, like having issues with us filming in front of it or something like that. I bet I guess, like, I guess another user took the video and uploaded it like on their own page on fucking YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, can we? Yeah, it was funny,

there's like a other version that we could find. Yeah. Well, no, like, apparently it exists again on YouTube, but it's just like a random user uploaded it. Yeah, this fucking fucking. Try to find it to be a random. Unless that already got fucking Ixnade, too. Oh, this is malevolence.

No, fuck. Is this one? This is, yeah. This is it? Okay. Yeah, so where's the part? Oh yeah, remember I've seen, like, photos on that. That looks beautiful.

Yeah, so I guess there's, I guess, clips in it somewhere where they're in front of the National Trust, and I guess they weren't supposed to film in front of that or something? Now, where is it? I don't know. Is that it? Oh, that can't be it. Yeah, where?

Sorry for those you listen, we're trying to find this part. Oh, yeah, I guess that might be it. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, because it says they use, like, a walking path. and you're something like that's like they got pissed at that it's fucking goofy like I like the way it was worded oh we were irritated I'm irritated right now

yeah what the fuck like I'm fucking irritated what the hell love these boys 11's is so sick and they're awesome they made me sometimes you just see something or they say or someone says them to you're like oh like oh wow they made me rethink a riff they they write the riffs in four parts

I was like, oh, then like once I heard that, all the riffs made sense. They always put four riffs in one. Huh. If you actually hear them, oh, there's like this part and this part. So, oh, shit. Yeah, you do put four riffs in one.

Interesting. See, I think that's another cool thing about having the platform you have and getting to do this with all kinds of musicians, too, is you end up gaining new perspective too. I've learned so much. It is insane. It is wild. And that's sick.

I love that. I'm not saying, look, I'm not saying listen to the podcast or watching it. I'm not saying that. But if you're not watching this or listening to this, and you're serious about playing music or being an artist, you're literally fucking up. There's so much free game getting given out on this fucking podcast, dude. It's all out there for, you're, I'm doing it in front of the world.

This is for me, too. I'm learning. And literally, it's out there for free, dude. And anyone can get on here and get game, dude. That's real. And sometimes you learn something. And like, I wouldn't imagine I'll be learning golf from Buzz Osborne. I literally, that week, I did what he said.

I was like, I practiced my putting. I was like, oh, shit. And I got a submiss dream. And he also said, a big one Buzz said was, that's the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A big one he said was, because he said how he's, pretty famous for always writing. Yeah.

Being very, like, prolific. And then that conversation came up. I guess he always plays songs that he loves. And eventually just kind of, branch off to a new riff. I started doing that. I stopped writing. I was like, oh, I'll play a corn song.

I'll play a staining song. I'll play with, like, limb biscuit. I was just songs that you just love. And eventually, you just stop playing the song, and you play something else pops out. You're like, whoa, dude. It is, dude, it's the literal most form of drawing inspiration out of your favorites. Literally like this.

Literally. Literally. For free. Cool. Literally gold for free. Yeah. So much game, dude. So much game being getting out, dude.

Free. Love that for free. Boom. Gratis. Like, do you like, I'll watch it. I'll go out and try it. Yeah. Why not?

What did you got to lose, dude? I learned how to putt and I learn how to write more. And now you got another seventh string coming, dude. Sick. Boom. Swag. Dude, it goes, I mean, learning, learning and being curious. man.

See, now I'm not sure what happened when he landed on hiring me in the band, but, you know, it was a learning process. We're here still. Not all decisions, and also, you got to be comfortable with all decisions you make aren't going to be good ones. And this is living proof.

Living proof that not every decision you make is in the video. See, look, you hired a fucking shitty drummer. Now we're going to go play arenas in fucking Europe, dude, with slaughter and dying fetus. I'm looking forward to it, man. It's going to be so sick. I'm excited, man. It's in January,

August, September. I think we have a six months? November. Yeah, yeah. Seven months. Seven months. Seven months, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Full transparency, I learned my months literally this year. So full of transparency, 39 years old. I learned. I feel a 9-11 joke coming on. I'm kidding. I learned the order of months. Oh, shit, dude.

Okay, cool. Cool. Well, Ernie, do we, I think we covered it all, dude. Do you miss anything? I think we're fucking good, man. Where can people find you guys?

We're fine, or find you. I think you find me. I was like, I mean... I'm in the same man as you. See, he's already trying to separate me. You can reach me and find me on my social medias all at Ernie Enigas drums on Instagram. I believe I made my Twitter the same handle now as well. You're on Twitter?

And yeah, I check it like fucking twice. month because it's a fucking cesspool. Just like an email? Pretty much. Yeah, and I play drums in the wonderful band Suicide Silence with this guy and a couple other cats. That's about it, man. That's it.

Yeah, come say what's up. Catch me at a fucking show near you. I'm usually out and about. I've been inside for a few months. It's time to go back outside. Same. It's time to go back outside. I've been inside the past two months.

I feel ready to go. Tonight's actually the first show. This is a big coming back. Yeah, yeah. Got the power with you and I've been not going to shows for a bit. Now tonight is Kalashy. Is that changing? Yeah.

So it's not to be a little appearance. Yeah. Well, you did a terrible job at promoting the band. Do you have a band? Yeah, I'm in the band's Suicide Silence and we're going on tour in January with Slaughter to Prevail and dying fetus. Okay. You have a podcast too, right?

We do. We have the Suicide Silence podcast. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. You can also find us and any updates on that as well at the Instagram Suicide Silence Pod.

That's POD. All one word. Great band. I'm killing it, dude. Yep. The Suicide Silence Pod is on Instagram. It's on TikTok, YouTube. Everywhere.

every Thursday Spotify Apple every Thursday thank you for listening to watching it out so it's growing organically and slowly so it's pretty fucking sick

like really really all jokes is I thank you everyone for like really like watching and supporting and like building this up in a way that even I wouldn't have like guessed imaginable it's really sick

it's really cool to see and like and just have people really be enjoying what we're fucking doing outside of music it's cool man it's very cool

so thank you guys all for that appreciate it got everyone platform this is a new time that's right What a time to be alive. That's a great screen cap to end on right there, though, for sure. That's how Dan Kenny's going to end up if we don't write a fucking sick record, dude.

I'm proud I sat here and I didn't eat the Reese's. Yo, honestly, do you fucking high-fi from across the room? I'm pretty proud of myself. Are you going home or are we going to eat something? Let's go fucking grub. Okay. We'll have a J-pick or something. All right then.

Cool. All right, guys. Love you, Ernie. Well, love you, doggy. All right. All right, everyone, appreciate it. Until next time. Later. Later.