Garza Podcast - 193 - Mudvayne Tour, Non-Music Influences & Announcement

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Garza does a deep dive into his personal life, talks Theo Von comparisons & much more. Get exclusive content here: https://patreon.com/garzapodcast SPONSORS:https://neuraldsp.com USE CODE: Garza for 30% OFF!00:00 - Announcement03:34 - Riding the Train07:54 - Racoon Update11:20 - Burger King15:09 - “YOU”15:45 - Theo Von20:08 - Cigars & Ideas25:22 - New Gear27:30 - Touring w/ Mudvayne & Static X36:36 - Adapting to Situations38:02 - How Garza Met His GF01:14:01 - Non-Music Influences1:25:27 - Garza’s Books1:30:24 - Ozzy’s Official Occupation 1:32:04 - Bedroom Headbanging1:33:58 - Deron Miller Riff/Song1:36:06 - Riff: Improv1:38:25 - Neural DSP

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And let's get to the podcast. 2 p.m. I got a fire truck. There's a lot of fire trucks going on over here. Constantly. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening.

Welcome to the podcast. Well, the band broke up. I'm kidding. We got some new gear we're testing out. I guess it kind of worked out. This was, yeah, we got J-Haz's new angle,

but thank you for joining us. So, yeah, just right out of the gates, we already, we announced it first on our, our Patreon, but we're going to start having bands in here,

or at least drummers. So we got some gear to make, to make that happen. And today was supposed to be, I'm going to throw him under the bus, because that's what I just enjoy doing. Yeah, it was supposed to be Ernie. Touching up the drums.

But what's up, Ernie playing drums in here? But next time, hopefully within the month. It's been, well, we're in August already. August. First we go, August, dude. My goodness. But it works out. Well, you could test it out here.

See if everything is fully functioning. But, yeah, it's kind of exciting. Kind of just taking that unexpected journey, you know, trying to get bands in here. It was kind of like the goal. but it was Darren Miller who kind of pushed me to do it he like said something I'm oh you know what

why not and it kind of works out too because do you like we're we're losing neighbors I think we said it last week the whole top row is almost gone so and some people tend not to be here

at night time it's just us like a bunch of idiots but yeah that's my That's kind of my cool announcement announcement here second because the Patreon got her first. Yeah, we got the mixer. Hopefully we'll get some drummers in here

because drummers are As you heard me say before, they are interesting beings to put it kindly. And got to get some beats in here, dude. Some freaking beats. So yeah, so you can adjust the level if you're a guest, you can kind of have your own mix

seeing it if it all works so yeah let's see what August and September should be interesting so I don't even know where it's going this thing is just going by by itself but let's see I took the train here train's cool

I'm not talking smack because I do enjoy my Kia still liking my Kia but there was What's the word? I think Jay would help me. Is it recall?

Got a little recall? Yeah, we got something in the mail, and I guess my model, something very minor, something's like some big little fix, but I guess something's up with several. Okay, so Google says several Kia Rio models have been subject to recalls due to various safety issues. These include recalls for steering column detachment. Oh, my goodness. Breakmaster cylinder issues

Cylinder is a hard word for me to say And trunk latch problems Yeah so it's I guess these are easy fixes So So I should get it back today Or tomorrow And also I have a AC issue

That's going to take a little longer than expect So yeah it took the I still like my real It's You gotta get fixed You know something is something something is wrong

I don't want to put it off but yeah I took the train here pretty sick not my first time doing it I was taking the train for a while when we were looking for the Kia but uh yeah you know train's cool because you

you could just sit there and just like I don't know I like looking out the window in a scene like oh shit I'm born here in Corona and the drive up to Orange County is like

I never really seen any other stuff and uh you know no hate or maybe hate um I guess like the there was a group of um

what would you call them females uh kind of behind me they were having a conversation loud enough to where it would uh overpower the the earphones that I had

in my ear canals so it was that powerful and I got hit with a scent that drove me to a bitter rage and it just says you know what like you know what doesn't smell good? A lot of perfumes don't smell good

I was like what's that, it's like annoying I was like oh I get it you know you know females have a lot more to deal with it that could have put their makeup and the perfume but it just hit me and was like just trying to look out of nature and this fucking this

scent just hit me. I'm like, oh, God. And so my reaction, I had a bodily reaction. And I had an urge. You know what, dude? I just want to, what if, what if, what if,

I don't know what I'm telling the story? I'm already ranting. It's like, what if I just farted loud as fuck right now? What if we just freaking just drop a, bomb and then uh if she says anything i'll be like shut up shut up but that's that's that's what i wanted to do that's what i wanted to say but i didn't i pretended to be a grown man and just sat there and quiet which i think is what we're supposed to do right but it's cool a cool ride uh out here um doing us doing this

unexpected solo episode all that people are reacting good to the last one Thank you. So holy crap, it's not about the views, but holy crap, it's doing pretty well. It's doing better than us having like a guest, which is kind of sick. And for me, like the solo episode was a way easier to be transparent. They're just like, I don't know, do all this crazy research. It takes a lot of time. So yeah, that was cool. Random. But so this week, let's see. Let's see. So last week I gave an update on the raccoon. There's a second update. So, yeah, we again, we are in August, the first week of August. Going into the second week of August already. And so, yeah, I got home early, you know, about, you know, 8.30 p.m. And let Leo out until Leo's, and because he likes to, so we're, so now we're bringing

them back in before nighttime. So when I get home, I'll let them out again. because I'm there and I could like watch them make sure everything is cool so yeah I'm I'm looking at the window okay he's fine he's fine and then I go out there

and uh you know cats have like cats have this look that they do it's like their like neck gets all stiff you know like you like this like thing they're like look

like look at something with such intense focus like cat focus you know there's like they're like there's just showing and they're like, they like, do you like this little thing? So then he likes, so Leo starts doing that, and I fucking knew, okay. And I looked behind the corner, and I see a shadow.

And I just know, I just knew what it was. So I grabbed Leo, like I grabbed me, he's in my arm. So you know what? We're going to look at this creature together because I need to actually see it. So I know what's happening because I like to time him. I like to time the raccoons. and so I took up my cell phone and then turned the uh it's so crazy how our phones do everything right

like my phone turns to a flashlight in a matter of like a second so this was a phone I don't know my phone on me this was a phone and now it's a flashlight so yeah I go I go around the shed in the corner and I fucking put out a flashlight in front of me and Leo's looking and it's fucking crazy cat focus and uh and i see it i see it like behind a tree like i don't really even see it i see its eyes like glow you know how you know animals eyes glow when you when it's dark and you put like a light to

him so shit there it is there there's the raccoon and i put leo inside and i kind of watched like the raccoon kind of rum around the back yard for a little bit okay well there it is it's out um but it was only one i only saw one i wonder if it's uh each year's still i'm sorry i wonder if it's uh each year's different. You know, there's one year, it was a family. The following year was two or three. And this, so this year starting off with just one. I wonder if it's the same one. But we learned here that a raccoon's lifespan is five to six years. Yes, Jay's way, way ahead of me. Oh, wait, no, two to three years in the wild. So lifespan says two, three years, but in parentheses

it says in the wild. I thought we, I thought we found something that said a five to five to six. Am I tripping? Yeah. Tripping. Fuck. I thought it was a... That was two to three.

Two to three. Okay. Well, it's probably... I wonder if it's the same one. Huh. So yeah, that's the raccoon updates. And now I'm going home and I'm just looking. Looking, looking, looking.

There's some... Sometimes you get humbled. And I've been talking... You might have heard me talk. I had my hot take. of hamburgers, like in and out, and I think, I think it's overhyped.

So, a great, it is a great hamburger. So I will clear it up from my previous statement. I did a while ago. But I was going to Carlos Jr. For a little bit,

like, like around here, it's kind of like the closest fast food spot around here. It's in like a little cut, a little cut straight I go to. And I went there a few times in, and then I, I kind of talk shit on people

that aren't self-aware. I don't look up and just look around. I kind of, I do pry myself sometimes. I'm like knowing my surroundings. And I've been on the street many times and on 17th Street in San Anna. And, uh, oh shit, I looked up literally directly across the street from Carl's Jr. It's Burger King. And I'm a big fan of the double cheese burger and fries.

I don't know. Again, I talked about it last time. If you find a good Yeah, that's the one I go to It's literally across the street Because I have So Burger King has been closing down For I mean

Years at this point So there used to be a few in Corona But they're all gone So when you find one is kind of cool But I guess Anna has one Yep I know that parking lot very well It's literally

Yeah see it's literally across the street So you see the car And you go straight boom There it is it's literally across the street I was like how do I how do I not see that and I'm over here talking smack on everybody

how no one's up aware no one knows where we're at it was literally across street so I went there and double cheeseburger and it was up I take it over there twice so it was good enough to where I went back

a second time pretty sick classic it's a double cheeseburger and it says fries I remember when we were talking about in and out like Oh Garza, you don't like them so What you put on it?

Okay, my argument to that is it has to taste good plain And just a double cheeseburger Some ketchup dude is classic boom That shit, it's still good And I like how they have And it was So Carlos Jr. is not packed

But Burger King was popping both times There's people in there. They have like the, what do you call it? They have a, just like the play area. They have like these little tubes. I went on those and who knows. Decades at this point. Literally have been decades.

It was pretty cool. It's a cool vibe there. And then when I was leaving, which I'll probably bust it out here at some point. You know how they have on the counter. They'll have these, they have the crowns, like the little cardboard crowns. So yeah, I did take one and it's in the backseat on my Kia when I get it back and I'll be wearing the ground

It's pretty sick. So shout out to a BK pretty sick people were talking shone on them, but I think I think it's pretty sick. What else why are doing? I've been a That season five Season five of yeah, so I got I got I got these these crowns I'm thinking about putting tape on it and putting something on it. Like writing something on it. Burger King.

I think there's still the Kings. I think it's awesome. Obviously, you might find a battle one, but I thought it was awesome. They should sponsor the podcast too. So yeah, I'm on the fifth season of you. I know I'm very late, but pretty sick. Season four dragged.

Drag fucking hard, dude. But it ended really good. And it pretty sick, but it was a dragger. But season five is looking fucking action-packed. Action-packed. And hopefully we're going to finish it off by the time you all watching,

listen to this. And I'll be all caught up. I'll be all caught up. And then by the time you listen to this, I don't know, I'm like debating. It's weird. We were talking about this last year. But a lot of crazy concerts,

came here last year. Um, like corn, limp biscuit, stained. Everyone came here last year, like in July, August, and I missed all of them. I didn't go to any of them. And, uh, which now looking back, I was probably like, justifying not going to any of the shows. I should have went, corn in the stadium, Limpisket played to Glen Helen, which is my favorite venue to go to.

Stain played the Hana Center, which is my second favorite. venue. I miss all of it, but it's cool. But I guess you can say this Saturday is this Saturday is the O'Von at the Honda Center. So from here, the closest venue is actually the Honda Center. It's super close. Just down the freeway right here. It's like, it's a, and some arenas just have a vibe to them.

It's just like, oh, and this is one of those places at the Honda Center is so cool, man. Saw a corn of stain there when I was, that was my second show ever. Seeing wrestling events there at WWF, probably went to three to four events. I went to one raw.

So I didn't cook there. But yeah, the Yovans were going to be there. Gonna be there this Saturday. And, uh, fuck, man. It's just, we're all, we're all on the same boat.

We're all on the same boat. I don't know. Trying to save money. It's not even just about tickets It's tickets Plus your parking Plus I'm not gonna watch the O'Bahn

And I get a beer You know It says it sucks I really want to go I really want to go see him Man I love his podcast I love his podcast

He's a big Inspiration for For me personally As a guitar player And as a I guess you could say I don't know What he would call me

A podcaster or a host I'm not entirely sure. But I'm probably going to miss it. It's going to suck. Man, if you're all listening and watching you, you're going, man. That's fucking cool. I wonder if he's on tour.

Yeah, shout out to Theo. People say that this podcast reminds them of Theo. I guess we have similar mannerisms. Mannerism, I guess. Oh, and he's playing Oceanside, too. Wow. Oh, shit. So he's going to LA first at the Adobe Theater.

Then Saturday it's August 16th, Hanna Center, 17th. Pretty much San Diego. Man, it's a California is fucking. San Diego would have been pretty cool too, but that's a Sunday. Maybe next year. Maybe next year. But I shut up to you at Theo Vaughn. I mean, dude, thank you for the inspiration, man.

I would love to meet him. I would love to meet Theo Vaughan, dude. I wonder how that will look. I wonder how that covers. What would we even talk about? Will we talk about comedians or, I don't know, music? I don't know. Yeah, there's just something about him.

Something about him. I guess what I like about him is he's his, he is his own guy. And I love people like that. He can't even compare him to anybody. And seeing people like that grow as, grow with their craft, their art, um,

start something entirely new, like being a host and is killing it. Super inspiring. I guess we, yeah, we, I guess we do, yeah,

we just have similar mannerisms. I don't know. I should probably buy a shirt or something. Yeah, shout out to what the O'Bahn, you know, Tim, obviously I've talked about a few times already.

Just comedians in general just fucking, which might actually, I think it ties into, a fan question later so maybe I'll fucking close it off right now and what has I been

something I've been doing that's been it's going to sound like I'm bullshitting but it's helping me but I know it's not healthy just which I got from King 810

and also Rick Rubin but I think King 810 planning the seat first shout out to David just sitting outside and it's letting your mind go. Like, where does it go? If he doesn't write lyrics

because he's a fucking psychopath. And he says he just sits there and just lets his mind go and writes the song right there just thinking. Just thinking and thinking. I'll sit outside when some's going down.

I'm like, man, these ideas come out of nowhere. That's a nice little arsenal I have that I want to share with all you in case you're struggling to come up with anything with your job or your chosen craft. For me, it's rifts and ideas for this in life.

You know, anything about your life, it also helped your craft. So, oh, shit, yeah, I got this from, I'll just sit there. It was like, sit out there and this is what I'm top it off. This smoking a cigar and it's just letting, I don't know, how do you say that? Just letting your body be. Yeah, I just let it just let it be And that was cool And Diaz was yeah at 30 minutes

It's chilling doing nothing Just I'm gonna force myself To force myself to sit down and not think And then that's when it was very helpful So that's the arsenal I have now for me And I can share that with all you In case it might help you

Smoking a cigar I just Cigar is just I don't know It just opens up your mind it just opens up the fucking pores in your body on it.

I don't know what it is. I started thinking and thinking your focus. I don't know what it is. And it's just a super chill factor to them. But yeah, I'm still again, I'm still on the light ones.

Still just the light ones. I'm not going, I'm not going to go crazy with the freaking dark ones, you know. We got super, super helpful, man. Just as far as like, and creative and chilling.

And, yeah, shout out to cigars. Again, I don't know if that's healthy or not. I'm not smoking one a day. It's like more like a one. It's like one. Oh, man. This is going out to YouTube. So I want to make sure I'm honest.

It's one every, I say it's one every three or four days. I don't smoke. I don't, I don't just sit out there and smoke one. This is, I got my wine. This is kind of going. Then maybe I won't smoke the next day at all.

The next day I'll continue the same one. So part three to four days I've been having one full one. I'm really trying not to cross that currently. It's tough. It tastes good. It tastes good. Anything that helps the creator process, I'm just soaking it in.

Cigars, they had that. You know what cigars have? They have that big chug, energy. Cigars had that big chug energy. And also, James Heffield smoked cigar, so if he does it, then

I guess it, I guess it works. We should, uh, we should head into some, uh, some fan questions. We got, we got, James Heffel looks so cool smoking that, what is it? The M-81 cigar.

Which someone actually put in our last episode to look at these, so, so thank you for the, uh, recommendation I wonder if that works if it's like a I wonder if that's like a subconscious thing because I remember his videos just pop up

that I'll see all I'll see videos like this pop up all the time on my phone on social media or says James table like just chilling smoking a cigar and I'm doing it but I'm not doing it because of him but maybe he put it subconsciously there

you know I wonder how that shit works kind of like marketing you know or it just like it just goes into your fucking some conscience and then one day you just find yourself doing it. It just looks so fucking cool man. I'm just chill Shams here filled. He just a goat

smokes a cigar and takes a man. Also I do that here too. I'll fucking smoke a cigar a little quick and I'll play Ripper 2. Something about that. There's something about that for sure. Just fucking go there. When you smoke a cigar nothing else matters

I suppose it's funny so yeah I think I got a pretty so deselection of questions I went more I went more personal I got one music one

but I went more personal I think the last one was pretty music heavy we're just gonna go freaking freaking personal so yeah these are from YouTube but if you want your questions answered Patreon is an option

sign up to the Patreon and ask questions there. And also shout out real quick to the The Brutality Podcast, Dom. I'm going back and forth to him a little bit. And I think he's going to help me with the Discord. Because I was going to do Discord and then we bought this fucking mixer and I never used a big mixer in my life. And I'm here. It's like a mixer for a fucking venue. It's like where I got out. I was like, oh, I thought it was half the size. But it's a mixer. It's being like a fucking theater, man.

And I don't know nothing about mixtures. But as you learn, it's like the iPhone. It's like a fucking laptop. I'm Apple laptop. He's, oh, you figure, oh, it turned on. Okay, cool, cool. Watch a YouTube video for five minutes. We got sound. So that's a good, you know, that's a good,

shout out to Patelia podcast. And also, congratulations to them. They just celebrated 100 episodes this week. So, congrats, man. their only Death Corps podcast out, I believe. So shout out to those guys. And thank you, Dom, for offering your help. I definitely help with the Discord.

So yeah, if you want a question answered, Patreon is the best place to go. We'll be poking in there and is grabbing and answering questions here. Or even potential to be able to take them to ask them to guests. So yeah, we announced guests there first and et cetera. So yeah, what's, uh, let's dive into a freaking question. Number one. Oh, this is actually a band.

Is this deprived? Right, Jay, is that? Yeah, deprived. Deprived official band. So this is a official band. What was it like touring with Mudavine and Static X? Oh boy. It was so much.

This was. I don't think we ever talked about this. That's one of my favorite tours ever. We got the poster up in the other room. That was 2009. It was 2009. No Ton of Bleed just came out. So we're popping.

We just got off the Slayer Tour. Yep, there is. Jay got it. And so a quick shout out to Chad Gray. He is literally, he is the sickest dude. He was the first. first guy in a big band that put us on a tour. So we're on a tour because of him.

He literally told whoever was putting the tour together, they're going on a tour and that's it. And yeah, he, Kooli, he was our first shot. Because for the other tours, it was like not the band. It was like the, I guess we went as the agent or the booking agent. Hey, this makes sense. Numbers, they're popping.

And got to throw him on a tour, which, I mean, I know, I know that goes, but it was this one in particular. It was Chad Gray. He threw us on that tour at a time where, you know, either you fuck with Suza Sons or you didn't. Or you just didn't understand it. We were just some young band coming up. But he got it, man. He got it and he threw us on, um, on that tour. It was a fucking arena tour.

It was freaking awesome, man. It was so sick. so freaking sick, dude. Their first one was Portland, Maine. It might have been our first time up in Maine. It was in the middle of fucking nowhere. It's, Maine's way up there. Portland, Maine? Oh, my goodness, dude.

Yeah, it's way up there. And actually, I don't recommend doing this. But what I did is, uh, I would put on their first record, high, and it's listening to Ryan the bass, and just rip.

Like that's a, that's an experience. That is a experience. Yeah, I remember it is, uh, rolling in. So do your, yep, July, July 24th, Portland, Maine. Wow, that was, uh, yeah, that, that just passed. I wish you knew that day earlier. Man, how many years ago is that? 19, that's 16 years ago.

This thing was 16 years ago, man. Does not feel like that long ago, man. he doesn't wow anyway yeah the first show you run into you know people the first person I saw was Ryan

the bass player and I told him my my story now I think he's a phenomenal player and I was listening to the first record high and he was very kind he was very very kind and got that whole tour

Chalice is the dopest he's he gave us our shot man he gave us a shot. He was the first dude in the big band that put us, actually took us and put us on something. It wasn't no business thing.

It wasn't like, because that happens all the time now. I mean, it's flooded. The scene, it's not like that now more than ever. Or, you're the same manager or the same booking engine.

They did it's all business. They just fucking loop you in one to fucking tour. It's all over now. It's fucking, it's kind of silly. But, uh, not people are double dipping but um this was he just threw us on there there was no gain for him at all

and he still did it which actually surprisingly unfortunately now it's rare he gave us a shot man so I'll always be grateful for a Chad Gray and coil and throughout the tour he would always like check in like you'll see him in catering it's always seeing how everyone's doing

and uh unfortunately back then I was still fucking quiet kid I wish I man She sucks man But even me being a quiet kid He will make it a point to a talk to me Which is really cool, it's rare It's rare, so a drag race fucking cool

Tour is awesome, that first show We were sharing it We were sharing which I'll never happen again But we were sharing a dressing room with us Saddick X and We just got done And we're all fucking Sit in there in our room

You know, fucking sweaty and all priority drinking. And to get into, for Saddicke's to get in the room, he has to, like, they have to go in our room and cross, you know, cross into theirs. And he walks in and looks at us and goes, you guys are fucking serious.

Oh, shit, he was winning a static. You, holy shit. Thanks, man. And we thought, we thought he was really cool. I thought he was awesome. And then we didn't speak to him the rest of the tour. he's a

no I think that point he was part going through some shit I don't know you know some people just keep it

themselves and I totally get it some people are are reserved some people um I don't know again

I spoke on this I mean a few times you know I don't expect people to be nice to me I don't care when I hear stories about how he's so nice

even though I just told a story about Chad Gray I mean in the end of day man they're a dick to me who cares cool but he was pretty reserved

after that first day I was oh man he's cool you fucking says something about our band holy shit and then we didn't speak to him for the rest but his whole band was awesome uh Tony I think Will Hunt was playing drums for them and uh I can't pronounce his name

Squeegee the guitar player they're always hanging around us they were always hanging around us it was awesome man and I think the drummer's name is Ken, yeah. But on this particular one, Ken was in plane,

it was a Will Hunt. And it's actually funny, it says, torn drummer, 2010, it was still at 9. And Will said some advice that stays with me still. You know, another night, we're all just hanging out. I've been a great time on the bus,

chilling, man, I was drinking, living the I guess you as you say living the life and we're already we're already talking about the next record which ended up being Black Crown like he's oh man you gotta

you gotta flip that switch you gotta flip that switch that's my Will Hunt impression but he plays drums in evidence in if you're not aware really good guy and sometimes when somebody

says something to you the meaning of it develops over time and develops over years and that was definitely one of those things it's still I still thinking thinking back at what he said you gotta flip that switch man

and that the meaning has evolved and my understanding of it I begin to understand it more oh shit this is probably what he meant you got to flip the switch and we'll see which is advice I haven't applied yet

which I'm probably about to apply it in my life with our next record advice man we talked 16 years ago I'm still about to take it's advice I just kind of crazy about someone said something to you you apply it years later

it's kind of a trip on or sometimes someone gives you advice and you're not ready to fucking use it I wasn't ready to use it for sure I was a fuck up I was a fuck up until 35 Yeah shout out to

Yeah Muddeban and Saddickax in that tour It was a fucking blast man Barry Day was also on that They were really cool to us But yeah Chai Gray would always have a place in my heart I'm really a fucking cool guy

Yeah thank you for Deprived Check out their band Since they're a official band As the name says Cool I think the next one might be more personal. I'm trying to put it more personal stuff into this

because I'm so more than talking about music, I'm ripping so much. I'm trying to go into the personal aspect of it. And what better opportunity than your drummer flaking on a podcast and you got to do a solo? What better opportunity? One thing I learned in my life, dude, and it still evolves.

And I'll answer to the next question. it blows my mind especially when you're involved with I guess music or any kind of things are constantly changing and you need to I guess the cliche is you need to roll with the punches man that is so true

sometimes you've got to go with it and act as if this is part of what you're trying to do it's still I still get curb balls so I made it's constantly how do you handle it you know I could have been pissed or I could have done nothing. No, this is, oh, this is like an opportunity.

Let's fucking do another solo episode, just test out the gear. And some things are more bigger than that. This is roll the punch, especially when talking about a band. It's rolling with things change. When things change, you got to change. You got to change your approach.

There's definitely more than one way to the top of the mountain. I'm still learning. Cool. Uh, what's this personal one? This is a, this is really personal. Um, J. How do you meet your girl, Garza?

This is a good one. So me and my lady have been dating for, uh, almost six years. Six years. And, uh, how am I gonna, should I just go straight from the beginning and just go? I think it should be a full on story. Um, I'll start from the beginning, beginning. And however long it is, it's going to be however long as is. so

2013 it's pointing because last week we were talking about the Coke story and so around the same time so obviously November Mitch's gone make the life choice to change

officially done with Coke in January February and probably around that same time as well maybe a little bit sooner me and my other lady split up I wasn't ready for a relationship and she was like the high school person

I had like a crush on and so we dated on and off for a few years didn't work out normal I feel bad for her because you know I was a fucking psycho I was an idiot and I told myself I don't have I ever told a story before ever but

I told myself that, uh, okay, or that band to succeed, you need to be all in. All in. Like, you need to be single for years. I looked committed to it. I think I was 27. Just turned 27, like fresh, uh, 27. And, um, I said, I'm going to be single time 35. That was my, uh, that was my number.

So it was, you know, 28. 29 you're talking seven years I was committing like this is and then we found Eddie and then the whole thing started to happen and we went therapy et cetera et cetera

but I committed to 35 I'm gonna be single and I want to say early 30s hit early 30s I mean like 31 maybe and you know who influenced me was

I mean, say what you want about him. But Connor McGregor actually influenced me to get a girl sooner. Because I was watching a documentary on him before he blew up. So he hasn't blown up yet. And USC was doing a doc on him. And him and his lady were living like some small ass flat. And I was like, you know what? That was cool.

It kind of opened up my mind to like a point. You know what? That's what I want. That's actually what I want. I don't want to be at the top of anything. And then I want to get a girl now when I'm at the bottom growing. And he opened up my mind to it. Oh, that was just really cool.

Seeing him like come up and finding his chick then. Obviously, I don't know what he's doing now with his relationship. But at the time, that really inspired me. And I did something. that, I look back, I'm like, man, why did I freaking do that? Why did I do that?

But I wrote down. I think I wrote down what I wanted in a significant other. Because I thought of fucking dying with another person. I was like, that's kind of a big commitment. It's not bad. It's just, you know, it's kind of a big commitment. I think no matter how close you are, you got to grow.

I know, I learned that with, four other guys. You could grow as people and commit to each other basically for a lifetime. It is doable. I see my parents do it. Married over 50 years. Crazy.

They're in the 80s now. Still married. Since I was single for so long and I was committed to something. I'm like, you know what? What do I want? So literally in my journal, many journals I have,

I started to write down what I wanted. to the length of hair, to, is she smart? I mean, does she have integrity? Her ethnicity, her height. These big questions, big and little questions I answered. Do I want her to be,

no hate? Me personally, I didn't want to date anyone that was involved with the medical, scene like at all for me personally that's just i mean if you do that that's totally cool but for me i want to someone completely uh outside normal it's not the right word um there's someone just kind of outside like like the scene uh little questions you know do i want her to be all over social media and i want do i want it to i want them to be a private person or a public person is there a integrity and plus like as like as

as guys, plain and simple. She has to be fucking hot. Bad ass. That ethnicity. I wrote down literally her height. I wanted to be shorter to me. I wanted to be Latina, which is a fucking gamble.

It's a gamble. I wanted to have integrity. I want to go to the gym, read, someone I could grow with and die with. And what kind of music do they like? And well, fast forward. um same three i now was uh

i think i was 32 at this point once i was 32 um normal day in corona normal day i went out with my friend nick bega which i'm still great friends with he uh i talk about him often here

he taught me a moitai uh got me my head up he helped me get literally oh yeah so the day i fucking got dumped by my chick i literally called in the next day And we try to trade more ties. So he's always been really cool. A really close friend of mine. And then our friend Ian that works at EofC Gym, which I still go to, and I'll see him there.

And so three of us go to Dos Lagos. It's like a nice kind of outside area, Corona, like still like kind of lake. What did you call it a lake? It's like a manmade kind of a water area. You walk around. There you go. Yeah, it's nice lights. It's dark.

It's really cool. Um, so normal shit and uh, and you heard me talk about Stone Church Brewey already where the incident happened. So we, so we go to Stone Church and we're standing outside of the patio. Because it has like inside and then a little patio area. It's really cool. It's really chill. And, um, sitting there and then, uh, these girls, um, um, just, um, just, um, um, just, um, um, um, just, it? I think this is a, that's a riverside one. That one, yeah, that's fucking, it is a really cool spot. It's a really fucking sick spot. Yeah, and we're standing outside the patio and Ian's like,

I guess his girls parked. Um, Ian's like, oh, I know, I know these chicks coming up. Because he works at the gym and course, you know, all the trainers know, do their best. to know all the chicks. And he's like, oh, I know, I know these chicks coming up. So our friend Ian introduced me to my now girlfriend. And we meet, and then we end up leaving there and going to Fridays. So we had, oh, sick. Is that, is that it?

Oh, yeah, boom. That's literally where I met my girlfriend. girlfriend literally right there right right in the front it's crazy and then uh yeah so we went to fridays and this particular day uh tiger woods just won the masters again it was like one of the best comebacks of sports history because everyone thought he's done he's shot he's old he's all his stuff happens with all these chicks that came out about him always freaking this call him gold diggers fun uh yeah he uh he came back and won the masters again I think that would be his fourth time winning.

Crazy comeback. 2019, boom. Crazy comeback. So yeah, I was watching golf at Fridays and these two chicks are here. I didn't really think anything of it, to be honest. I'm not sure why. And then, anyway, we part ways. Crazy tournament events.

A whole year passed. I'm wondering if she, I'm a lady even minds if I'm telling the story. But a whole year past, dude, a year. A whole year passed. And I'm at the gym. And I like going to the gym on Sundays. And I have this thing.

I had this, I think females that are single go to gym on Sundays. She disagrees with me from telling you. Single chicks go to the gym on Sundays. Because Sunday is family day. They're going to hang up with their kids. They're going to church with their families. They're going to baby. showers, they're pregnant, like, whatever.

And so I'll go to gym around noon on Sunday because I was super chill. And on Saturdays as well. And I get approached, because I'm, you know, dude, I'm benching. I'm benching the fucking unbension, right? I'm getting pumped. Feeling good. I get approached by this chick.

And she said, I'm Ian's friend. I was like, oh, cool, I lied. I'm like, Oh, cool. Good to see you again. I was so fucking confused. I had no idea who the chick was. I had no idea. No idea. So I lied.

It's like, oh, cool, yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember. So that interaction was quick. And then I didn't think anything in the other than I'm like, who the fuck was that? And I kid you not. I kid you not. The next day, either the next day or next week.

same time. Oh, she's there again. Oh, shit. Oh, that's that chick that, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. I remember when winter Fridays? Okay, cool.

I was so confused the time before. I didn't realize she was hot. I was so confused, like just looking at her. I look, I'm like, huh? What the fuck you're talking about? This stuff you can't fake. You know, you can't fake that. My reaction to this day, she tells me it was very,

You play it off well. I'm like, well, that's, that's just, I was just acting the way, what was happening. And, uh, the next day, I kid you not. I see her again. Oh, shit. She's fucking hot. I didn't even realize, because I was looking at fuse the time before. And, uh, I applied this still to, um, fuck. Yeah, I still, uh, apply to, uh, apply to future decisions in my life. I made a single decision that changed my whole life. It changed my whole life. I don't know where I would be. The band wouldn't be here

for sure this podcast wouldn't exist. The band would be done. We knows what death court would be. With one split second decision I made, I'm here. I was done. I'm leaving. The door is to the right.

I could go right and it's leave. but she was to the left stretching with her friend and I was like fuck it I'm gonna talk to her I didn't even fucking think about it I just started

I just started walking left it's kind of like I wasn't even walking anymore I wasn't even walking I was just being pulled something was pushing me I don't know maybe I didn't even make that decision

maybe I wasn't even the one thinking who knows depends on what you believe in and I was done but I, so I sat by her and her friend. And we started talking. And she starts, again, I don't know she, she reminds me telling a story, but, uh, she started saying shit about me. I was like, huh?

She still remembered that I like golf about what we were watching that day. At the time, I did have purple hair. So she remembered that I like golf. And she remember my name. A year later, dude. A year later, you remember my name? And I like golf? That's kind of weird.

So, luckily in that moment, I was still aware enough. So I see her in her front. So I sit right there and I pretend to stretch. I don't need to stretch. I'm done. I went to gym. I'm fucking pumped up. I'm all pumpy.

I'm horned up. And I sat there. I started talking to him. And also, for some reason, I just knew I'm going to talk to her friend more. This is where guys really need... If you're talking to you a chick and she's with her friend, talk to their friend.

Because it's going to be a time where you're brought up and if that friend needs to say something positive about you. So I literally, I was including the friend and everything all the same, just so she has a good, a positive thought of me. And, you know, so I noticed that she remembered my name and golf and these things about me. I was like, huh, okay, she obviously likes me.

maybe you should have yet but I think there's something there and then I made sure I talked to her friend and then I'll okay I said some bullshit thing like hey we should work out together like what's your number we're not gonna work out together

I want your fucking number but something dumb there's something that gets a number cool I got her number I walked out of that fucking door in a moment this is where guys also fuck up this is where guys always always fuck up. The moment I sat down on my car, I text her. Hey, it's me. Save this shit. Or, you know, hey, it's Chris. Save this number. Don't wait till the next day or two day. Whatever the

stupid rule you here. No, it's like, boom, done. And, um, no shit. I got her number. Holy Holy shit And then Just a simple Did I even make that decision? I don't know man I don't know Wow I don't know

It's kind of weird This was a simple Do I go right or do I go left If I go right in his sleeve In my life I'm not gonna talk to his chick Yeah then we're a Texan Just very lighthearted

Um I knew what I kind of knew what was going to get her out and treat it casual so I went out for coffee went out for coffee around like 7, 6, 7 p.m. At the time, I think the sun's still out so it sounded like a nighttime thing.

Low pressure, get her out for coffee, get her out on that first date. Yeah, so he went to Starbucks at the crossings in Corona. Tap by, there's like a waterfall thing so I knew if I could get coffee. chill, just gonna see the water, we're gonna chill outside. Also, what guys fuck up,

dress like, however you dress, dress like that. People make these first dates like so, it doesn't have to be a lot, it's so fucking coffee and literally, I wore what I wore. I wore a red hot, holley, pepper shirt, and torn blue jeans. And I didn't do my hair. Or I did it, what the way I would do it.

It's like this, I have long hair. Yeah, she went in her gym clothes Just looking fucking smoking hot And uh It was nice Seeing seeing how it was testing out Uh I feel like I'm talking about game right now

I don't know But I did a few things This okay And guys forget man If the girl's on the date with you She wants to be there That's a big thing Okay if they're there

They like you They fucking went there So I'll do like these little things And just don't be a fucking weirdo You know touch your hair kind of seeing how she react oh you something

something's in your hair let me take it out some shit but small moves small okay so the vibe was good then went to BJ's which is right

right next to the Starbucks BJ's brew house got a beer and good vibe good vibe and then gave the Kiskin night

I made I made the move, the kiss on the cheek, innocent. Kind of didn't feel like I wanted to pursue anything more, and then... Cool. Yeah, try to get the second date, but I think she canceled the second date because she was sick. And when you're a guy and a girl says they're sick, you're like, oh, she's fucking flaking. What a fucking bitch. Stupid.

But I think she was actually generally sick. So what I did is I try to... get her on the phone. But this might be an age thing. I don't know if it still works, but I mean, we're talking, you know, I'm, you know, I'm an early 30, so talking on the phone is normal. If you're young, I don't know how you guys do it these days. But, you know, you're talking on the phone at night, you know,

getting some comfort. Kept trying to get that second date since she canceled the second one. And, uh, yeah, I just patient. patient. I think, and you learn things when you text chicks. I was like, you don't, I will purposely, this is, I'm trying to help, trying to help out guys here. Like, if you had texted night, I wouldn't reply. I'll wait to the next morning to reply, so the conversation continues throughout the whole day. Kind of a little, like, a little trick.

I don't want to say good night because then who says good night last? and then who's going to send that first text. I brought my A game. I literally brought the A game. I kind of felt something there. And what is that on the first date? What are you feeling? I don't know.

I don't know. I think if you're a female listening and watching, thank you. But I don't know. I think when, I think you can learn a lot about a person in one date. If you listen.

thankfully then in my life I was at a point where I could listen you could kind of see red flags or not or lack of red flags which is always nice and I don't know what it was I liked her liked her right at right first date knew it

all right I want to I want to date this person what is that I don't know I think it's I think there's a lot of subconscious cues that the male and the female will give each other or partners will give each other I think it's all some conscious. I don't know. I was ready. I think

she wasn't crazy. Nothing against you females out there, but I told this to my girlfriend a lot. If you just have a, if they only, women only understood how simple a man can be. Seriously, dude. I'm, my goodness. If you're female, if you just work on your brain, and you're just a decent, sane, female, you're ahead of most. You're out of a fucking big group of people, straight up. And some chicks might be like,

I am normal, you're probably crazy. And from what I hear, and I understand, you're the dating world right now is even worse than ever. So I got out just in the nick of time. I got really lucky. I liked her I mean I liked her

and said she canceled the the second date patient and we made the second date happened so in person

like okay now we're we got the second date I think we went to Grasiano's pizza had a pizza or more beer I was drinking a lot more

at the time it was nice okay this is great you know I want to date this person And we had a, wow, this might have been the last time. Chase looking at why a woman crazy. This was our last,

went down in South America, do a little run with a suicide silence. And then, so I met her around summer. So I met her literally again, the year later, So we're talking about the same time in like September. Her birthday is in November. So yeah, right before her birthday,

as soon as I went to South America, play some shows, fucking rocked. Rocked down there. Promoter was a funny guy. Was it Columbia? It might have been Columbia, but a little fucking sidetrack.

Man, this life's weird. You find yourself doing shit that I don't know But the promoter That holy shit Jay This is the actual show Um

So before this happened There's some There's a scuffle Between the venue owner And the fucking promoter And I Me and Eddie break up a fight Because they're fighting

But I mean The punches are being thrown And me and Eddie are grabbing them both And it's like It's like man What other band would do this? and the band will party bounce me and Eddie broke up this

the fucking fistpot tried to calm them down their job is to calm us down and I mean guys have a good time it's just funny how things things happened but uh yeah we're still texting

I'm over there I'm texting um she had tickets to see Mana on her birthday in November so I go out there in L.A. Just a hand with her and went to

uh what's the what's the hotel i think it's called shit it's a really big hotel in LA the oh shit it's like like a really famous hotel oh yeah the uh bit more yeah it's like a really nice one

it was cool I remember driving there first of all it was in downtown I never I don't like going to downtown no one really does and I was like I remember getting out the freeway driving downtown

I was like why the fuck am I here? I must really like to chick because I'm here and had a really you know what you expect really really nice

really nice bar and walking past all like homeless people try to get inside meter and I had it in my mind you know we had the joke that I didn't ask you to remember my girlfriend

told her to be my girlfriend I was like yep you're my girlfriend now let's go it's come a long story but she had to kind of wrap that up. She was exactly what I wrote down years, years earlier. She was shorter to me, Latina, she has, even as we continue to be a couple,

her integrity shows a lot, and it's really impressive. She's a private person, private on social media, not in the scene, literally what I fucking wrote down. Bad ass, as I wrote down also wrote down. It's really important. but uh literally what I wrote down um

it's crazy and that was um almost six years ago five five years ago five years fucking 10 a month or something

and I always introduced it to people as the foundation of suicide silence because yeah she really pushed me to do just to be a better I think we all need it man we all need to be pushed

yeah if I didn't if I didn't have a woman I don't know where I would be. She really fine-tuned things. It's fine-tune and really exposed a lot of my insecurities. You know what's fucking scary is, I'm trying to close it off. I'm a long story, but love is scary, man.

Love is very scary. And I can't go too far into it. I'm trying to find the right time. I think I said this before, but I was trying to find the right time to bring this up. but about my past in my situation. But yeah, just really scared of love,

which I think generally I think most people are. The thing about love is when you got to be vulnerable to love, truly love somebody and when you're vulnerable, you got to open, you got to open, you got that feelings have had their way, at least what I did. I'm not sure if you can say it worked or not, but I had let my

I basically let my body feel because I was like so like I don't want to love I don't want to love guys no no no no no my body was my body was literally freaking out you know what she's fucking sick man and I just let I physically let my body able to have feelings of love

and I let go and I realized until it was too late but I realized that I was afraid to let go because of what was going to come out and continues to come out at least now in smaller ways but when you allow

at least for me correct me if I'm wrong but at least for me I realized that love was when you allow yourself to love it's just love is not just what comes out it's just like everything comes out

it's not just love it's like your fucking darkest part of your fucking psyche comes out too evil comes out hate comes out too the worst part of you will come out as well when you're like what happened to me or maybe because I just held on to it for so long

my whole life maybe uh I realized I don't know just everything everything came out you know it's for me to actually feel love I had to let everything come out and uh yeah that for me that led to

fucking two full on mental breakdowns and um I think that if you're confused, maybe that's what helped me realize it. I was afraid of love because I was afraid of showing someone all in me. And this person can be able to handle it. But it was worth it being vulnerable and loving and trusting. There's trust. It's like, fuck, dude.

Do you even trust yourself? A lot of, and love, yeah, it opened up a lot of. of things. It opened up to love you. You got to see everything without getting into woo-woo. But yeah, you got to see everything in you. And everything. Yeah, your successes for me is my failures.

I'm still facing now. I think we all are, right? Because now you're just feeling shit. You're just feeling everything. Now you're really feeling your failures and your failures don't go away. Your failures turn to fucking demons that never sleep. they don't right when you think they're gone they are right fucking they're just waiting this fucking waiting dude your failures your regrets everything that comes flying out

but uh luckily i was with the person that was strong enough to handle it to t what i wrote down to the t so i guess i recommend to to men if you have a chance if you're younger you know no one told me this when i was young and you're young you're in high school i mean mean college yeah to write shit down right writing shit down in general helps what do you want man you know that fucking helped me and now yeah i introduced her to uh yeah to my friends that's the foundation of sues that's not she actually pushed me to even do this this fucking podcast um very cool mentally strong integrity so i remember i was talking to a couple chicks before her too and there's uh I'm like women with integrity.

It's a rare thing. Again, if you're a female or or just someone trying to find a partner, yeah, it's, it's tough, man. It's tough. If you try to keep your integrity, they'll take you out,

they'll take you out of the big bunch of people, man, the big bunch. And that's almost six years later. Still going. It does not, I think, what I've kind of noticed what marriages and people that are in relationships, I noticed that,

that, uh, it's like more than a few years or five years, 10 years, or even more, they, no one talks about the time. Well, yeah, it doesn't even feel like 10 years.

I think you feel like, yeah, just kind of, having fun, just laughing, growing, you know, but,

uh, but yeah, that's how, uh, I met my chick, man. I don't, I don't know where I'll be.

I have no idea. I don't, I don't even want to know. And that, you know, that definitely helped me out with other things I still apply. You know, when I need help,

I notice I need to help to be a better person in business I need help I'll ask you know I'm trying to be a strong head I'm a man

I don't need help no just ask ask for help yeah that's how I met my chick just change my life and then okay now I can find and close it off

a simple decision it was not even a second decision I made for better or for worse we all make these decisions that this changes are fucking, what if I went right at the gym and I just fucking went home? Where, where would I be? I don't know. Instead, I fucking said, fuck it. I just, I literally, it was like that. I literally had two roads, like quite, literally.

Like, nothing spiritual or fancy. Literally fucking boom, boom. What are you going to choose? Wow, I just, I went left. Sometimes when you make the right decision, you make their right decision. Oh, wow. Especially in my life or my career, my band, I made some of your wrong ones. Pretty cool, man. I hope you all enjoyed that story. Maybe it might help you out with, uh, with some.

I don't know where I'll be. It's, yeah, that really started a whole fucking journey, man. Still, it's still, what, what's the word is still happening? Things are still happening. and still growing as a person. Something to live for, you know. What do you think, Jay? I think we should probably not even do any more questions.

I don't know where else we... How do we top that? It's kind of hard to top that. I guess I'll say the... Um, I think either one more question of your choosing, Jay, or one of the current events. I think you should choose because you have a part of more clearhead than me. I just went on a fucking emotional journey.

I'm going to let you recover. Shout out. Shout out to Cece. Yeah, shut out. That's cool. Holding it down. The best. Should we do a question?

Should we do with the... Maybe we could do... A little quick question, maybe. Okay, okay. We'll do a question and we'll just kind of do... both dozed through the current events. All right. Let's do,

let's just hit this one, I guess. Let's do it. A. Mullen's music. I think this is the second question. Is there, are there any non-musical influences of yours? Yeah, oh, dude, totally. I mean, they're, dude,

I say they're tied, man. They're neck and neck with, like, music and non-music. Before, when you're growing up, it's all music and music, obviously, because we love it. That's why we're all listening to even listening. here because of music but man like the non music stuff is helping me just as much

maybe not more because it's the it's the non-music stuff that will kind of put your life into a perspective um for me it's uh comedians and books books are a big one not not to actually have the one that fucking changed my life which is I don't know no one's actually said anything

I'm pretty surprised no one said anything about uh the set uh behind me we have have books. They're actually there for a reason. I'll bring up the first one. Just a shout out. There's no, I have no connection to him at all. But Jocko Willink, this book changed my fucking life. Green looks like a fucking army

leadership, strategy, and tactics. This book changed my fucking life. So yeah, this is a big influence of why the band still around dude i mean again if it's some sometimes dude some things just hit you this is one of them that's one of them i don't know about again where i would be

there's a there's a section in this and shout out to you a jaco he's a fucking gangster but uh there's a part where he talks about ego um and this is probably right before I'm

me and my lady met this is probably around at the same time so this process is all happening at once it's kind of a lot going on and there's a part especially when talking bands and music this might be really helpful

for you is that there's a part where it talks about ego because obviously Jocko is a businessman and he was talking about this one part where he's he's working with a company and he's trying to give him like

I guess maybe like consultant advice so he's trying to see how the company works and the other CEO is just dissing Jocko just dissing him, just undermining him and he's so he's confused Jock was confused and he goes around the company

talking to the employees about about the CEO to see if he's a cool guy or if he's a dick and it made Jocko more confused because everybody said how fucking cool he was

Everyone said how cool the CEO was. And he kept asking questions. He kept talking to the employees and, yeah, the guy's so humble and I'm trying to, it's funny. I wish I did it sooner, but I guess I wasn't planning to do the deep dive. It would be kind of funny, but yeah. So he realized after talking to all of the employees, Oh shit like there's nothing wrong with them Everyone says how cool he is

Then he said something in this book This literally brought me to my knees And humbled me in such a way Where I still look back at this This moment in my life I remember where I was sitting in the house I don't know why this hit so hard But

I think he Jock asked himself a question after talking to all the employees about the CEO, oh wait, is it me? He stopped pointing the finger at the other guy with the ego and pointed it at himself. And that was it.

That was fucking it, man. And then, I wish I could fucking, I wish I could fucking find it here, man. But it made, then he realized, Jocker realized, I guess, his ego was

triggering the other guy's ego which I learned the hard way that's actually what I had been doing a lot of my career so then that made me kind of I looked I was like wow okay I think that might have been the really first time in my life where I really pointed the finger at myself wait

I'm pointing a finger at the other band members the band the manager the agent wherever I got like a point of I was going to that. And then I was like, wait. I asked, what he asked, I asked myself, is it me? And, uh, yeah, that brought me to my knees. And then that would start a moment of my career.

That's why I'm also still here. Um, I realized, oh, shit, this is all my fault. Everything about the band, about my music, my career. I'm here because of me. I'm a fuck up. I'm, I have the ego. I have, I have the ego, man. Oh, man.

I so remember where I was sitting Kind of like Reliving it right now And I wish I could fucking find it man I wish I could find it but probably not All right I found it After jaded a little surprise at it It's literally on page

Have I ever read it out of a book turn to pod? I apologize but I guess this might be a new segment It's on page 75 This is Chaco talking to himself And with books

I like to I still do this I highlight them I put I have a highlighter or a pin And I'll put in parentheses

little little segments that I like And then When the book's done I'll go back And just read the segments

Which I still do So I don't read The whole book Again I'll just read Like The reread The things

That kind of stuck out So from Jocko Page 75 Then I thought a little deeper. Wait, I thought.

Is it possible the problem is me? Damn, man, that fucking hit hard. And you actually said, same thing. After that, it hit me in like a bolt of lightning. Could it be my ego causing this problem? Boom, there it is. That's,

that would start something in my career that, that's hard. I mean, we're human, man. We're all stubborn. And that started a lot of shit. That started a lot. I realized I had a massive ego. Massive, dude, fucking massive ego. It's different.

I think egos have a way of disguising itself. It's like a big, like, disguise. And my ego was in, it's disguise. was it wasn't outward. It was just like a, it was a quiet ego. I was also a very quiet person. And man, I realized, oh, shit, I have a massive ego. This is different.

And I would just say it's not this kind of ego and just kind of make excuses. But no, it was a form of an ego. It was massive. Then once I started to work, I realized that I was, my ego was triggering off the other egos of the other guys in the band. And I realized it was me. I thought it was someone else. I realized it was me.

And, uh, I mean, I got to talk about this for literally like another two hours easily because then what, what proceeded to happen was, uh, I would talk to each person individually, we'll have meetings, you know, what's going on with the band. But yeah, that's a big influence and it affects the music. Again, books were, were huge for me. Very, very huge. Um, um.

And the, again, we're talking earlier. Like, they have words will have different meanings. Advice will have different meanings as a, but yeah, I still, I still go back to that moment. I was like reliving it. Man, it was, it was like a lightning bolt. Like, that changed everything. And again, again, once, once the ego drops and you're, okay, now, now, now you're

humble. And when you're humble, then you're humble. And you're open-minded. If you're open-minded, then you'll ask questions. When you ask questions, you get better insight that you can apply to your career. It's why this thing even exists. Why I ask dumb questions. That really was like the lightning bolt.

Without going into a full on fucking two-hour rant, it's probably quite cut it off there. But yeah, music, not musical books. I think there's a power in, if you're trying to get inspired or get me minded. Again, work for me. Hopefully it helps you. just re-watching movies you watch when you're a child like re-watch your favorite stuff as like a kid that always helps

like have like your favorite movies be watching them get that feeling back of being a child because that's what music is it's just magic it's just your inner child just fucking coming out so they're re-watching those movies very very helpful

what else hobbies I mean me and Jay talk about Top of hobbies. Doing shit. But yeah, without going on a full on, freaking rant, it's probably top it on, top that one off.

Thank you for a cool question. Awesome. What are the books you got there? So we got, my favorite book, actually, I'll, I'm going to do a quick little rundown. This is my favorite book,

The Alchemist. My favorite books actually aren't really common because I love shit. short to the point books, but books tend to be long, fat and fucking weigh a lot. This is short and sweet. The author is actually from Brazil and his story. It's one of the only nonfiction books I like, you could say I like this of,

I'm just trying to get my time back on my fuckups. but this is one of the rare it's a very popular book we're talking like millions of fucking copies I'm nobody special this is like a very very popular book but but the story is very universal and no matter what you do

if you're a fucking rock star or a mom you're trying to have a job or have a dream or just anything like it's kind of the author uh polio he just found a way to tell a story it just was so universal that it hits

it hit everybody man it hit everybody yeah it's just a story of a a little boy traveling throughout the desert just to follow his dreams and the listen to signs and his intuition is basically like a good summary but short school I'll reread it

probably one of the only books I'll I reread just remind me it reminds me to pay attention to us signs So shout out to that. Obviously, Jocko. Save my fucking career.

Right there. We all love David God. It's that fucking psycho. He's a psycho. Can't hurt me just for the base of... This is here just for the fact of... I'm a psycho. I think Jake can attest to that.

His psycho energy, I just love it. Very... No bullshit. That's just inspiring to me. Seeing someone just gets up. can uh just someone that uh kind of stick so deep into their mind uh kind of makes me feel like a bitch and that's and that's me so uh can't hurt me good one if you like you like psycho stuff that's something that we most of us know is uh Netflix uh that will never work by uh mark randolph

um he was a co-founder of Netflix and it's basically I mean it's the name of the fucking book so telling his his side of the story like the company

coming up um obviously very inspiring to me coming up with a band or if you're or if you're just doing anything

you're basically if you do anything you want to do you're taught it's just up uphill battle up battle the whole way you're going against the grain

and it's just um Yeah, again, the story is really like inspiring to, I guess another way of following your intuition. Finding ways to make things work. Seeing like the chaos behind a business. When other people talk about their life falling apart and making a business work, that's very, that's very relatable.

You know, and so he was a co-founder and the first CEO. and obviously Netflix is what it is now it's still a fucking powerhouse and seeing them evolve getting again stuff I apply to music all these books apply directly to music but that's my chosen craft on the planet so

it's whatever I think you do or want to do I think these four books can um can help you out so uh yeah those Those those have always been there.

Honestly, I was pretty surprised. No one saw him. But yeah, I got, I'm going to call that hidden heat. We had that hidden heat over there, dude. We got sick. Let's fucking power through these two. We only have one current event, and then I have a video that I want to react to you

just because this kid's fucking sick. All right. Ozzy Osbourne death setter gets, List a legendary job title. So yeah, obviously the His cause of death has come out. This is actually August 6th. It was actually today.

It might be in the bottom, a little bit lower. Oh yeah. So basically in short, his death certificate listed the cause of death as a heart attack. He suffered from heart disease as well as Parkinson's disease, which, which I didn't know, he was diagnosed in 2003

but didn't reveal publicly until 2020. Wow. Holy shit, dude. And this is where it gets, this is where it gets heavy. It's, his, his certificate says,

it's, uh, we, we've, we've passed it. It's right underneath the, yeah, there it is. So as his,

as his, as his, occupation it says listing um it says songwriter performer and rock

legend as his occupation and it's beautiful man that was him literally the top of the top man that's on your certificate dude that's on your that certificate

wow yeah again shout out the Ozzie the fucking goat man and uh we're gonna close it off in a high note. This, I found this, there's this video. There's this kid.

You know, sometimes things just pop up on your social media feed. Shout out to Max. How do you say that? It's last name and thing, Jay? Max. Dezeron. Max Dezeron.

So that's his username. if you're watching, you pull it up. This is, this is my spirit animal. I always watch this video is in this fucking rockout. So this is him up playing blind in his fucking room, dude, this is so sick.

This fucking crank it, dude, just fucking bad. This was all of us, dude. This head-banging heart is fucking, this is what's all about. This was all about. Except, uh, it's,

it's the note. sure I think it adds to it for sure. This is I don't know what. I think he I think he's a great headbanger. He's he's a great headbanger. This is You know what I do? I'm getting baggy pants. That's it.

It's over. I'm getting in baggy pants. I'm fuck I'm not fucking around anymore dude. That's so sick. Wow. Yeah, I just been watching hit stuff. I started following him. just randomly just watching someone freaking headbang. I guess we could also close it off with a riff. I was planning to do it earlier, but I fucked up again.

I told, I said I was going to make it short. Okay, so a riff I've been playing pretty often is, uh, we, uh, it was with Darren. We like wrote his song in like real time. And then he wrote like the riff riff riff and I wrote the chorus. Man, I keep playing that chorus here. It's fucking rocket, dude. This is me using our new gear. Oh, wow.

That's thick. So here's Darren's riff. I keep playing that freaking riff, dude. I keep playing it. Is there something about it? And then Darren would start singing over. It's so cool. Oh, I think I need to write a tag.

Okay, and I'm close it off with the riff. Just wrote literally. right before this pot started. Just because it was pre-pod, I might as well put it in the very end. Get that freaking big chug energy. Was it? Yeah.

Hell yeah. So shout out to Neurl for making this whole thing even possible. I can just freaking plug in and get my freaking tone, man. Newell's sick. I think anything we should top it off with, Jay? I think we're, I think I'm pretty horned up I think we're good

We got pretty deep there Sorry I was trying to make make a short I'm like I'll do that like an hour hour 15 And now it's hour 40 These are real These are just as real It just comes flying out After we get like halfway

I don't know This kind of takes a life of Of its own Yeah shout out to you Neuro for sponsoring the podcast your 30% code is in the description again I said it earlier

but man I was such a hater of neural and then I wish I did it years ago so my tone is literally that it's the Gordura plugin that's literally my fucking tone it's here it's when we're right it's when we go out to live shows it's above me in the plane like that's the tone

that's literally I wish I wish it did sooner so so it's honor for for us the podcast actually for them to actually back us and so they'll be with us for a few months and hopefully it even goes past that plus they have a ton of sick plug-ins

that I haven't even should probably get it one more. What's the next one? I know what is the next one? I don't what I do need I need a clean one because we we had the heavy down

that quadura plugin is fucking sick it's it's to I need that I didn't, a sick, clean tone. I wonder, I wonder where should go. Bertucci might have a cool clean. Yeah, there's a few guys on here.

They'll probably have that covered. Sal dono, you think? Solano might be hot. Or Tim Henson. Yeah, they got the cleans on lock, pretty good. And this is, so I was wrong about this, and then you're going to hear me talk about this forever, especially now they're a sponsor.

I was avoiding the Gioritone. for a while because I'm like I don't want a tone that sounds like them you know I people might like my tone love it or hate it but it's me and I was very surprised how uh I was able to get a plug and I'm like this sounds nothing like them so I saw you do have the ability to kind of sound like you and I was very I was wrong about that I was very surprising I'm like oh shit this is like this sounds like suezah sounds it's made it It kind of lets you get the tone you want. You know, I wanted the suicide sounds tone and boom it.

I was surprised. I went from Hader to literally biggest, biggest supporter telling everybody about it. So shout out to Neurl. They'll be with us, sponsoring the pod for the next few months. Honestly, that's probably why we have a mixer here, taking us to that next level, getting bands in here. So yeah, the future soon.

We're going to get some bands in here, some drummers. I challenge the bands listening and watching. You need to learn how to fucking play. Play? Come in here. Come in here, man. We will host jams.

I just want to... I realize I just want to headbang, dude. I just want a headbang. So come in here, jam. Know how to play your songs. Fucking rock out. You want episode 3? join the Patreon also in the description below ask questions there uh we'll pull from there

ask uh bring up here to answer live on a pod what else uh get the coffee get the merch coffee coffee's right here i'm fucking horned up um yeah thank you for listening watching the podcast and also thank you for uh thank you for supporting the uh solos it's kind of like becoming a thing i'm very surprised. Because if you listen or watch on Spotify and Apple, they do the same of not more than most guests, which is surprising. So thank you for listening to me rant and tell my stories.

And I got a lifetime of them. So yeah, again, thank you for supporting podcasts. And let's see, next week we do have a guest. So, yeah, we have our guest. literally they'll be showing them next week. Hopefully they don't cancel. He canceled. I'm going to fucking kill Ernie or something. And shout to Ernie.

All right, everyone, appreciate it. That's it. Later.