Garza Podcast - 202 - TYE TRUJILLO: Bass Riffs, Suicidal Tendencies, Ottto & Playing w/ Korn

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Garza sits down in-person with Tye Trujillo. Bass player of Los Angeles, CA band OTTTO & current bass player for Venice Beach, CA band SUICIDAL TENDENCIES. New EP “Sweaty Pool” out December 5th! https://ottto.ffm.to/otttoSPONSORS: Sweetwater - https://imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB00:00 - Fender P Bass02:15 - First Instruments05:15 - Getting Into Bass // Learning Scales09:07 - Learning Songs & Green Day11:45 - Jaco Pastorius19:47 - French Food & Background25:00 - Turning 21, Drinking & Staying Focused33:27 - Sweaty Pool ft Nick Oliveri34:27 - Bass Riff: Canyon36:12 - Playing Bass w/ Korn44:28 - TruDrive Wah/OD Pedal49:02 - Car Accident56:00 - Bass Riff: Skyscraper56:37 - Bass Rundown58:27 - Bass Riff: Galloping Technique1:01:41 - Bass Riff: Iron Maiden - The Trooper1:05:32 - Bass Riff: Suicidal Tendencies1:11:57 - Playing with a Pick1:13:06 - Jaco Pastorius’ Bass Rig1:15:09 - Tech 21 XXL Pedal1:17:15 - Favorite Bands at the Moment1:20:57 - New Single1:21:49 - Garza & Tye’s Resemblance1:23:33 - Riff: Freestyle Jam

Awesome. Hi. Yeah, handsome man. Thanks, man. Our first solo bass player. Yeah, yeah. So thank you for breaking that mold. Thanks for having me on here, man.

It's great. I'm stoked, man. Yeah. Playing the Fender P-Bases. Yes, yes. Love the Fender P-Bases. This one actually is a Nash P-Base. So this brand that makes, like, Fender models and stuff.

and takes inspiration, but they're great, and Fender's great. I love, I've always stuck to, stuck to those bases and, in general. Something about it, man. So is this not, is a Fender? So this is a Fender, yeah, so this is a Fender, but, yeah, I mean, it sounds killer. Sounds like the Fender, so it's like, love this thing. Yeah, that's right. Do Leo's Fender, his masterpiece is, is the P-Base?

Yeah. People talk about like the Stratocaster and a telly, but dude, it's the Fender P-Base. Yeah. Even to this day, it's like the standard for like bass tone. Totally. It is. It's like, I mean, that's the base that stuck to me the most. Like ever since I was a little kid, I've like, I picked up the P-base and I was like,

that's just feels right. It feels right, huh? Yeah. And you just hear it on so many tracks, like you said, like legendary sound. It's pretty cool. Legendary sound, modern current sounds. Yes. I remember I was watching Gorgera.

I was like, wow, their bass tone is fucking signal. I was like, and I'm always playing a fucking S-T and a Fender P-Base. Yeah. Just like the most classic. Oh, I'm a Fender Head. I was like the most classic still. Yeah. But it's still, you make it sound like modern.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. With their tone, they make it sound. It punches. Yeah. Totally. Yeah.

And you started, and you started naturally, so you started picking up the bass by yourself. Because you were, you were a child. Right. And you got a Toys R Us drum set, right? Well, yeah, that's what, I mean, when I was really young, I don't actually remember what, like, I got exactly. But it was like a, pretty much a toy drum kit. My parents got it for me. I was just kind of hidden stuff.

Yeah, because you were originally a drummer. You were banging pots and pans. I guess you could say so, yeah. I'm probably saying stuff that you don't even, like, remember. Yeah, yeah. I don't remember being three years old. Yeah, yeah. My parents, yeah, I say like a lot, like,

where I was, like, hidden a lot of different stuff. And, like, I was playing drums originally as a little kid, but I never, like, stuck with it, stuck with it. And then I switched to bass. later on. I picked that up. And then, I don't know, yeah, I just stuck with it, I guess.

Dude, where is that, towards the rest drum set? Man, it must be in storage somewhere. You got a bus. I know, dude. I'm like, my sister's a killer drummer. Shout out to her. She's actually, she plays in a couple bands.

So she's, she's awesome. Yeah. Man, I'm kind of bummed for like, I guess like this. Yeah. generation of of kids because man when you're a kid going to Toys R Us and it's man it's walking those aisles I was getting Power Rangers you're already getting drum sets yeah yeah you're you're way ahead of me I mean you know

it's I mean we're fortunate I guess both fortunate to have I don't even know if Toys R Us is still around right no dude actually yeah is uh is Toys R Us still still around I wonder what the uh yeah Let's check. Because the ones in Riverside were gone, the one in Corona is gone. Yeah. Okay, so also they're so popping. There's one in West Covenient.

I'm going to go there tomorrow. Yeah. See if they have any instruments there. I'm going to buy your new drum set. Yeah. I'll pick it up again, dude. I'm very rusty. Oh, is this it?

The one in the middle? Might be. That's a good one. It's good that they still have toy drum kits around. Oh, is it? Is it the KSM complete drum set? I don't know. Looks like the one I used to play.

It's a complete drum kit. Yeah. It says it right there. Looks like it. Yeah. And then you beat the fuck out of that one. Yeah. And then you got a more upgraded kit when you were five.

Yeah. And then that's when you lost interest. Yeah. And then you started going naturally towards the bass. So you kind of just pick up. up like yeah that's true how do you know that whoa oh yeah um yeah so when i was uh when i was five i lost interest for a couple years and then um i tried the guitar and then uh i was like i don't know if i really want to play guitar solos as much or like i kind of want to do something in between

which is the bass and then seeing my dad play it obviously inspired me me like he taught me a couple things that like really like that I practice and uh helped me like improve at it yeah so once you once you uh set fuck off to the drum set um you uh yeah so so your dad taught you first okay he's he's getting into it he's he first taught you the uh the C major scale right yep and then you learn that in a day correct yeah yeah it's all you so and then you okay now now then you got the uh you uh you learn the uh you learn earned a blues scale. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So already, we're talking pre-10. Yeah, pre-10, yeah. And you're already doing scales. Yeah, I was doing scales at like, about nine or eight, maybe. I can't do a scale now, man. What? Come on, man.

Those some of those riffs you're playing right now, I'm like, dude, those are. I can't do a scale. I know like this, I know the C major scale is like the scale, correct? Yeah. It's like, this is where you start C major scale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what, you're up on like the fifth fret, right?

Or like, I guess on the A string, like you do third fret on the A string or like a... Okay. That was the first skill I've ever learned, you know, and then... Okay, so it starts on the A string? A string, yeah. Well, I did... That's how I first learned it on the A string on the... Oh, crap.

Third fret. And then after I learned it, I'll cross the fretboard. So just like all over in different keys. And it's just a great exercise because my dad taught me how to like do it with the positioning of using all of your fingers, like your pinky or, you know, your first finger, middle finger, everything. To really get that, uh, get that like exercise kind of of getting everything. Yeah. Moving. So that really helped me because like,

it allowed me to like when I tried to learn like cover songs then I could like like dig in easier with um and with the technique and stuff yeah yeah and then he went to the blues scale what's what's what's a what's a what's a what it was like a kind of like a a pentatonic sort of thing okay I'm I'm not good at you know music theory or anything but it was just something like a something like that. I'm horned up. All right. Yeah.

So I learned that and then it kind of just took those things and just kept practicing him. Mm-hmm. Yeah. How long? So again, we're like we're talking pre 10 years old. No. How long a day are you practicing? Back then?

Yeah. I would go for like two hours a day. I think that's, that was like the average. I would really just, after school, I'd just go to my room and just, just play. Play. Yeah. Just plug in, just jam out. And, yeah, man, it's just, it's music, man.

It's beautiful thing. Yeah, music's beautiful, man. Yeah. Still, I'm almost 40 and still love it. Yeah. It doesn't leave you, man. Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, it truly doesn't.

So, okay, so you're learning the scales. Seven, eight years old, you're jamming on the acoustic, like, my, like, my generation, kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. I was jamming on that. My generation, then I learned, like, you know, the basic covers, every kind of little kid band learns, like, the inner sandman smells like teen spirit. Oh, yeah. Like, Green Day tunes. yeah

welcome to paradise yeah that's exactly what I learned that was uh no uh yeah but uh he uses the pick right yeah that actually kind of got he started on that the pick um because I wanted to learn that too and then that was a great tune like the first learned for that kind of style of bass playing is it

yeah it's like um yeah I heard you mention the like the bridge section of lot. Yeah, yeah. I mentioned that, yeah, that bridge section, because it's like a, I don't have a pick with me right now, but like a, oh yeah, you know, oh yeah. And that was like tricky for me to play with a pick. So it's one of those things. Got you. I see if I still got it. Or it might be something like that. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good exercise, you know, to get me. get me practicing that pick technique. Yeah, I've got to re-gem that song.

Yeah. It's been a while since I listened to it as well. There's so many bands out there. You like, you let just forget. Oh, yeah. There you go. What's he doing? Is he lighting something on fire?

What is he doing? Oh, what is that? Was that a Bible? Yeah. If you're just listening, yeah, It's like the alive version and I Billy was lighting something on fire I think it was a Bible

Yeah that's pretty cool I could be wrong Can we get a quick close up on that? Legendary baseline What is that? What yeah It's like a, is that a magazine? It could be a porn magazine

I don't know Oh wow That's a trip Yeah this is a legendary video Yeah I haven't seen this video in a long time and then by 10 Ty. So this is one of the most fascinating things I found out about you

and I realized oh Ty he's actually like a real bass player you learned Jacco Pastorius it was a punk a punk jazz part. Yeah so I attempted to learn it at 10. Yeah I

around that yeah that age so like my dad taught me a couple sections so I learned bits of and pieces of it. I actually, unfortunately, I didn't get to like learn the whole piece. Sure. But like, because my dad was learning it at the time because he was doing the Jocko movie and stuff. And so it was around that, you know, that music. So I, I remember learning like a, like a couple, like parts for it and stuff. And then also like, come on, come over. Another classic.

But, but, but yeah, it's, those tunes are very inspiring because. that's real like some musical intricate stuff dude i was yeah so you got me into uh jaco i was like watching something live video because i was trying to i mean i mean you're talking this month like i got into jazz yeah um it's like some uh and i learned that they they don't have riffs so i didn't know what to say right now is it like is it like a part is it like a bridge i i don't know what word were to use and i could i couldn't necessarily find like a song yeah i just found like like this little 50 second section yeah of of of the punk jazz yeah hey jade try to find it i think you uh jacob postorius i put like uh punk jazz and there's this video i found it i was like

what the i was like watching what the fuck's he doing i hope go down it was like a live down down I hope I'll be funny It was like a live Yeah And he was wearing He was wearing white pants Yeah Yeah there it is

Oh dude this is I'm like His base tall on here What the fuck is he playing here? Okay crank Let's crank this What year is this? Wow

It's the 80s or This has to be so fucking old dude This Yeah I don't know It looks old But But Jock was wearing white pants

tonight so yeah so right so you know he's serious yeah and i was like what is what is because he he went he went he went to his amp he dressed as something and sort of yeah sound like like this psychedelic chorus sound yeah yeah what what is that yeah i don't know what is you doing right there such a trip what the hell is that what i think he was using acoustic amps uh that was his yeah what it's like it's like a blue yeah it looks uh it looks like a line six pod but right Obviously, I don't think line six even existed. Yeah. My shit.

It's really punk rock. And then he... That got me horned up. Like, when he, like, he just baseball, it's like, oh, this is serious. Yeah. And, and, oh, he's just dancing. Yeah. He said, nope, I need, I need more bass.

Yeah, yeah. So I didn't know. So, Ty, I didn't know Jocko until, uh, three hours ago. Really? Wow. Yeah, so I found him. So I put that exact video and I was just getting tripped out. It's a trip. It is.

I mean. And you were introduced to this at, at, uh, at 10. Yeah. Yeah. Like hearing that stuff, it's just, it's a different world, really, because it's, uh, it's just so much, so much dedication. I heard Jocko used to, like, practice, like, at least eight hours a day and, like, just, I mean, the way his base looks, it's like, it's gone through a, I think the video we're just watching it says this

1960 I think it was the the base was plane okay yeah sick yeah you're talking like very advanced base plane yeah very very advanced oh there's my dad

Joni Mitchell wow holy yeah yeah A story, a shout-out, man. Yeah, definitely. A name that has not been brought up on this podcast yet. Wow.

So I wanted to, uh, yeah, I wanted to shed some light on him. Definitely, man. Yeah, his, I mean, his whole music is just amazing. I just can't even describe in words. Like, how much it's impact me. I wonder how much, how much drugs he did. He just has that feel, man. Yeah, he just has that, man.

And it's incredible. And unfortunately he did pass away at a very young, young age. Yeah. 35, I think. It's real young, yeah. I think, uh, yeah, 87. He died. Born.

Yeah. December 1st, 1951, died September 21st, 1987, 35 years old, man. Fuck. How do you pass away? You got beat up by, like, bouncer or something are you serious yeah i didn't know that and death and i didn't know that okay so he was hospitalized for multiple uh facial fractures and injuries to his right eye and left arm and fell into a coma yeah uh he uh after reportedly kicking in a glass door having been refused

entrance into the club he became involved in a violent confrontation with a name i'm not gonna say because you sucks. A club employee. Yeah. Which, which who was a martial arts expert? Jesus. So he does.

Oh, that is sad, man. Gone way too soon, man. And devastating. A brain, a brain hemorrhage. Yeah. I didn't know he got beat up.

Yeah. There's crazy people out there, man. And it's just, it's a bummer, you know, because such a legend and, you know, such a great dude. Just a great family, you know, I see his family around sometimes. And they, you know, whenever we're out and out, like in Florida and stuff,

my family and I would connect with them and great people. Yeah. And, you know, I think they have a whole Jocko mural, actually, in like Fort Lauderdale, where he grew up. I remember going there was pretty cool. In Fort Lauderdale. Yeah. Shout out, man.

Yeah. That's sad. I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, man. Yep, there it is. Yeah, pretty sick. Oh, that's beautiful, man.

Yeah. Yeah, I think I have a picture over there, like a longt, like when my dad and I went over there, like, definitely like a while ago. But, yeah, pretty cool. Sweet Water. When the band needs anything for a tour or we need something here for the podcast, Sweetwater is where we go. The other number one online retailer for pro audio and music instruments. So if you need any music gear fast, click the link in the description below so they know you came from this podcast. That's Sweetwater, your number one place for pro audio instruments. It's also something I learned about you, Ty.

So you're, so you're, so your, your mother's French. Yes. Right. So, yeah. So do you have family out in France? Right now, I have a great aunt out there. And like some like more distant like family members. But a lot of my direct family, they moved out here.

Okay. I love France, man. It's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if he's going out there for, like, family, like, hangs. Yeah. Like, I, um, I was out there actually last summer in Paris and my mom showed me around and stuff.

It was pretty, pretty cool. Pretty cool. Because I had been the years since I've been there before. And, like, so it's a great part of the world. Yeah. So are you getting, are you? Are you? You eating like French food at home?

What's like? Man, I wish more so at home. I mean, I go to French restaurants in L.A. a lot because I love the food. Yeah. So that's mainly. But I would love to get into like making French food at home and stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

What's a good, what's a good French dish? What's like the, what, what's like the dish that, that you get? So my main go-to is, cook monsieur which is cook monsieur and then steak fritz is great but cook monsieur is like it's basically like a

egg in or that's cuck madame but it's a like a grilled cheese but with cheese on top and like a kind of like a oh yeah come fresh

um um um yeah uh c uh c uh

R, O, Q, and then you, yeah. Yep, there it is. Yep. Oh, what is this? What is this? So good, man. If you're like, I got to, I got to take you to a French restaurant.

Oh, yeah. This is good. Dude, again, if you're just listening, I, I'm, this, imagine, like, if a grocery sandwich, a grocery sandwich took, like, stir words. Oh, yeah. So good. Dude, what is that?

Delicious. I mean, if. If you ever, you know, how are you not fat? I don't know. I mean, I, you know, you just, you have to just balance it out. I mean, in France, the food anyways is, like, good quality. So, like, they have a lot of, like, ingredients, like, a list, I think of a, just, like, stuff you can't put in the food in, I guess, in France and other countries rather than the U.S. So like I noticed like just the food qualities Just a step above out there

But are you guys going to France on your Europe tour soon? I believe so yeah Killer you got to get one of those from you know what dude Now that thing about it I never gone out and walked around I had a fresh a French dish ever And that's pretty embarrassing I've been there I've never even been to the Eiffel Tower And I've been to Paris I don't know how many times

Wow. You got to check it out, man. I've never been there. Yeah. Actually, a quick story, I think the first time we went to Paris, our previous baseball got robbed. Holy shit. Yeah, so maybe that kind of subconsciously, like, I'm not going to walk around. Yeah. It's sketchy.

It is. I mean, Paris is a free-for-all type of city. So it's definitely a place where you kind of always have to look over your shoulder about stuff going on. A lot of pit pockets in certain areas. But as long as you kind of look where you are, I mean, like anywhere, you know, even L.A. or Santa Ana or, you know, just you'll be all right. But, yeah. It's so sketchy there. I mean, you'll fucking pick your own pocket.

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, it is a beautiful city and definitely a good amount of places to go to, like, restaurants. And, yeah, good for inspiration, too, for music. Really? Yeah, just like looking at it. Just like looking around and like, oh, wow. Yeah. I could write some music.

Yeah. I want to do a C major scale right now. Yeah. Heck yeah. Yeah. Or just something. Where'd you grow up, Ty? So I grew up, well, I grew up in Venice Beach a little bit and then also in like

closer like Topanga Canyon, which is like, it's like kind of closer to. I guess Malibu area a little bit but um but yeah and then I grew up in the Bay area a bit for a couple years when I was really young when my dad was like working up there a bit so but mainly I would say kind of just uh in West L.A. Okay. Yeah. Um I'm not I'm not trying to make you feel bad but you were born in 04 correct? O4 yes. Yeah. Wow. I was like dang like Dude, my band started before he was even born. Holy crap. Yeah.

It's crazy. Time flies too, man. We just had a drummer in here that was super young team and I was like, dang, you're like 24. Holy crap. Yeah, dude. Yeah, it's crazy. I can't even believe now I'm 21, which is like, I mean, I still like young age, but like. Yeah.

Just like how time has, like, been flying. Just more and more. What's your birthday? July 21st. July 21st. Nice. Yeah. Did you do the classic, I need to go out and get a drink?

Well, funny thing is, is I mean, I did have like a couple drinks, but I was out in Europe on my 21st. So I wasn't even like at like in Europe you can drink at a younger age and go to certain places. Yeah, yeah. I forget about that all the time. Yeah. So like it was like, oh, whatever. place where it's not even it doesn't even matter so um what what you have what did i have like a a yigger bomb it's just like uh maybe like a moscow mule something oh dang you went but oh man but um

dude dude i was getting the old classic jack and coke oh yeah yeah jack and coke that's um that's the classic yeah it tastes like shit now but now now now now I go more towards like the mules. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like one nice to enjoy the taste. Yeah.

Yeah, that's good. That's, yeah. The mules are where it's at. So you only had a couple, right? Yeah. I don't really drink that much, really. That's smart. Yeah.

I like to stay focused, you know. Is there a particular reason why you stayed away from it? Um, I mean, oh, really. I think I, I'm just, I like to balance my time, I guess. because I really like to stay focused on, like, music and, like, and stuff, because it's not worth, like, getting super caught up in it or anything. So, yeah. Yeah, I was wondering where you got that from.

Yeah. Because usually when it turns when you're an idiot like me, I'm going to drink everything. Yeah. I also think, like, I don't know if it's because my mom's from France and stuff, because, like, I think like Europeans have a better relationship with alcohol than Americans. So I think I think in America people just drink to get fucked up like then they just pass out. Yeah. And then they drive drunk and do something really stupid.

But in Europe it's like people kind of more so like enjoy and savor it and they don't over drink to where they like, you know, just pass out in the middle of this. I mean, maybe some places, but like they they kind of just more so. enjoy it rather than really get messed up. Yeah. Dude, where were you when I was 21? I needed to hear this. Yeah, right. This is around a bunch of psychos.

Let's just drink everything. Right, right. Like a bunch of dumb Americans. Right. God, fucking stupid. But, dude, it is, there is truth that I always told a story. Like, dude, once I started drinking, lost focus. Yeah.

Yeah. I started drinking until 21. Right. Straight edge up until 21. I mean, it definitely, it contributed to destroying my career. Yeah. So it's smart that you're not doing that. Thanks, man.

Yeah. It's also better for your skin, Ty. Yeah. It's better for health. Health is wealth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You want that, you want to look like Ty when you're older, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's good. But I know we're both, I know you're drinking some coffee. I'm a coffee person as well. So,

great. Coffee's, coffee's good. It is. And I found, I found coffee later. Yeah. 26.

I wish I found it sooner. Yeah. Yeah. Man. Man. Yeah. It's good. And it's funny thing is I hated the taste of coffee when I was a little kid.

Like I remember I accidentally tried like coffee and spat it out. It was like, ew. And then now I'm like, I don't mind it. Just plain black coffee. It's nice. Yeah. It's like, all right. It's good.

It's all. It's all making sense, Thai. Yeah. Nice. So, okay, so, so, yeah. So you're learning, uh, Jocker Baseball at 10. Did you, were you doing some like, uh, were you doing some kind of after school music program? Um, yes, I was.

Yeah. I did that. It's like an after school rock band. Um, when I was in like first and second grade. Mm. And that's actually where I learned how to do, how to play all those songs. Like, that's why I learned how to play my generation. Oh, okay.

Um, yeah. And then welcome to paradise. Oh. So those tunes, yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Dude, you really found the trick, man. Yeah.

Just stay focused and that's how you stay out of trouble. Yeah. Yeah. Stay focused. Man, where did you get that? I mean, I think seeing my dad work hard too and seeing family work hard and stuff. Hmm. You know, and I'm not saying you can't enjoy life.

It's all a balance, really. you know it's good to like walk around and explore and I think um do things um but just yeah doing that with staying focus it can all like interject and sure i think help each other out oh so you had like a good uh example yeah interesting yeah i think i had the wrong idols who were your idols uh corn oh yeah i was watching them to get get fucked up you know what dude

Ty, the older I get, the more like, did that actually subconsciously inspiring me or draw me in? And it gets, it changes, it changes in time. Yeah. I was like, oh, I wonder if that actually put like an ingrained and maybe, oh, you got to. Yeah. You got to be like corn in this fucking party. Yeah. Because, I mean, back then, that was in their peak days of that, that was what, like the late 90s, right?

Yeah. Yeah. And back then, what were you, how old were you back then? Like high school still coming out of? Oh yeah, I found four when I was 12. Wow. 12. And I was a senior in 18, 18 years old, still a senior in the moment.

I got a high school in touring. Wow. Yeah. But I did. I toured for 19, 20, two, two, three years, sober. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

Great. Yeah. I'm not sure what happened. Fuck. Okay. It's all good, man. We learn. Life is a learning process, you know.

I was, it kind of hit me when, when you're talking. Yeah. It might sound weird, but I, I've seen you grow up. Yeah, we've known each other for a while, man. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of seen you grow up doing cool shit. I guess on YouTube and then eventually I will see you around.

Yeah. I've seen auto play. Yeah. You know, and I've seen, we played a show together. Yep, we did. I don't know where we were in the middle of nowhere. It was like, New Mexico? New Mexico, yeah, and we were chatting.

I remember outside the, it was like in the venue or outside the venue. It must have been at Soundcheck or something. But, yeah, that was a crazy show. That was cool with the Native Americans and stuff and, like, bringing everyone together. Yeah. And then I think at one of Jose's parties or something, we met before that too. And, yeah. Have you seen AutoPlay before that too?

No, that's probably right. That's probably the first time seeing guys. Yeah. I went to the House of Blues. I think it was like some kind of nam jam. Yeah. Before I, before I forget, Ty. I'm the worst at this.

So let's talk about it now. So by so this drops on the 12th or 13th so so the single already be out. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, the sweaty pool single and yeah. It's out now. Yeah. Yeah.

And yeah, it's out now because, yeah. But yeah, with Nick Oliveri, he's amazing. I mean, just I grew up hearing his, you know, his just powerful voice, his aggression. Yeah. and everything and but yeah he uh

yeah he hopped on the track and just yeah just killed it and just came up on stage with us and just rocked out with us man he's such a great dude congrass man

thanks man yeah and I was a little bit confused is it a and then are you dropping an EP or a record in in December EP yeah all right

Cool. So we're dropping an EP with, yeah, of like four tracks. Four tracks, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like this song Canyon. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah.

That's a great one, man. It's a Groover. What was that opening bass line? Yeah, so opening baseline is, um, it's in drop these, so it'll tune down. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's sick, dude. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a good, like, twister, too, like, with the. With the pinky because it's like I'm kind of reaching a lot. It kind of moves around the fretboard. So it's a fun riff. Man, I don't even know if I could play that. It's a good exercise too. Oh, yeah. You know, for like a warm up or something.

Yeah, it looks like a sick, like warm up riff. Yeah. That's fucking badass, man. Awesome. Yeah. Okay, cool. So we talked about the single and we talked about the record. Because I don't want to be an hour and a half in.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dude, I'm the worst at that. Yeah. I'll like, I forget to talk about, about the record or something. I was like,

oh, I'm sorry. Cool. So, so we got it. Yeah. Okay, again,

so 10, you're, you're freaking learning these crazy bass riffs. Right. And then, um, so it was actually, um,

so 12, yeah, past four or two years, 12, yeah. So you're 12 years old, Ty, and it was actually field his idea,

yeah, to have you play a bass for corn. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It was, You were in my favorite band. That's sad.

That was, I mean, I was mind-blowing because, I mean, they were one of my favorite bands growing up, you know, too and stuff. And like, just at that period, I remember it was like I was really listening to Korn, like, before, like, before I got the offer. Like, I don't know if it's something in the universe that happened, but I remember I was, like, on a flight, like, listening to, like, the whole, like, take a look in the mirror record. Oh, yeah. And I was, and then like, like some, like months later, maybe like a month or two later, like I ran into Fieldy and Jonathan at the airport. Oh, random. And then, yeah, super random.

And then like, Philthi was like, oh, I've been seeing your clips and stuff, man. You're killing it and stuff. And I was like, man, thank you, man. Like, you guys are killer. And he, then he, you know, offered me or he sent the offer, like to, because he, he didn't want, there was something that happened with South America or some, something that fell through with him and touring there. So he asked me to do the tour. It was a two-week stretch and I was super stoked, super excited and we started just learning tunes.

And yeah, we went out there and I mean, still one of, like, one of the best memories ever. Like, just playing with those guys and just sharing the stage with a band that I grew up. up listening to so much. Wasn't the first show like Columbia or some? Yeah, it was like in Bogota, Columbia. Yeah. Yeah. Insane.

Insane crowds down there. Oh yeah. So crazy. They're fucking crazy over there, dude. Yeah. Like lighting fires in the mosh pit with like holding flames, flares in the air. Oh yeah.

Just yeah. It was crazy to see at 12 years old. Just like what is going on? Do you remember like what? Like, did you remember what you were thinking about? Man, I remember thinking, well, I remember being real nervous the first show. It was like, man, like, you know, I'm about to go on stage, like, first show of the tour. And then after the moment, I got on stage, just got in the groove and it all went away.

And it was like, just in a relaxed kind of state of mind. Yeah, because to an outsider, so outsiders looking in is, okay, how did this 12-year-old, get some gigs with corn but then me doing some some deep dive on on the tiles oh shit what you're doing three 10 years old

oh he's he's like a bass player he's like an actual bass player yeah yeah it's it's a trip like it's just like it all happened so fast in a period you know and just

kind of kept my head down just practicing and all of a sudden the offer came and it was like wow Like, it's incredible. Did you freaking pee your pants a little bit? I mean, I was, I was just nervous, but I wouldn't say it went that far, but. I would, I would pee a little bit.

It's fine. Oh, I'll, oh, man, dude, that's, dude, that's my favorite band. You freaking jam with them. Oh, yeah, that shit. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, there's, yeah, one of my favorites. And he's just like, yeah, going up, I was like, wow. Like incredible guys, man.

I mean, such down the earth dudes for like such, you know, a big band, like, they really have a good routine. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. We were just talking about them earlier and I was like saying how they might as subconsciously turned me into a alcohol. But now at the same time, they are also my North Star, but how to be as people. Yeah. You know, how we balance.

Like, they really found, like, the balance, like, the rock star, but be cool thing. I'm like, damn, how do you fucking sick? It's cool. Yeah, it's, they really found it. Yeah. And, yeah, it's, it's awesome. And the synergy between the musicians, it's just, like, because before that era, like, like, they're, the genre, you know, the new metal genre, they really, like, before that, it, like, that was, tuned down guitars, it wasn't really much of a, it. thing and like how they brought that into you know into the culture is like wow

it's why we're here it's crazy yeah literally why yeah like this little this podcast exists because of like that like yeah things things that they're yeah what the impact of their music yes yeah yeah that's incredible congrats man it's fucking sick ass gig man yeah i know i i love i mean i was saying earlier like you know that that track you guys did with john like witness the addiction like man like I was listening to that on the drive over here

I was like dude riff is crushing do you talk to talk about peeing your pants a little bit like yes when I we finally got the

he sent the track today we had to turn in our album really it was like if it's not today he's not to be on the record and we literally got it it was like

hearing it I was like this is sometimes like your life your life is not real. It's like, what the fuck's going on right now? Holy grail. It was like a surreal. Yeah.

It's like, holy shit. Holy shit. How did that come about? Like, you guys hit him up or something and on tour? Yeah. Yeah, we did a few shows with them in 2009. Okay. I think they established some kind of, uh, I don't want to say friendships.

I'm, like, I'm a cool guy. But, you know, to establish some kind of like, you know, we were talking and then just, just asked. Right. Sometimes you have crazy ideas. is you know, let's just ask. Yeah. Just fucking ask. And then you said, yeah.

Wow. Yeah, that's awesome. And that chorus, you hops on. It's like, wow. Oh, yeah. So cool. Yeah, it's a fucking dark chorus, too. Very dark. Yeah. And those guitar layers, like, you guys were putting on there,

like those, like the support, like the chord progression. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, those are really, really sick. Like, yeah, I got to relearn that those, yeah, those, like, high parts. Yeah. That's when you channel the demons properly. Yeah.

And do you guys ever do that one live or I mean? No, it's funny to do it. I have like dreams of it. I wouldn't think it's so cool. Maybe some like do it. Yeah. Kind of cool. Maybe like down the road.

That'd be so awesome, man. The stars align. Yeah, I have like dreams about it. Like one day I would love to like. Yeah. Want that push John on the spot? Right. Wait, it's actually possible now because of like a technology.

Yeah. Because that's our only song. It's on a tune down like standard F. Wow. So it's super low, but all our songs are a drop A. Right. But now with technology, I can just do the little pitch sift. Oh, right.

Like a little F. Right. And like a couple little knobs. So it will be easy to do now. Yeah. Totally. You can do it. And I mean, I want to be there that day.

You guys do play it live. like with John man I want to watch that and be incredible get a couple uh get a couple mules in you get a little bit loose

I'm gonna have probably five so oh wow I'm gonna fucking nervous dude I'm gonna be nervous dude yeah yeah it's a rare time when sometimes you have a vision yeah

and it all works because we're like you let's write like a really ballady kind of song like just a big chorus. Right. And then get like a guest vocal. Sometimes you have an idea and it's just, the stars align.

Yeah. You know. Totally. That was one, that was one of those moments. We got to talk about your pedal, man. Yes. True drive.

Yeah. It's available on Sweetwater, guitar center, and more websites. But yeah, it's a great sounding pedal. It's basically like. So is it a wall distortion

combo. Yeah, so it's a it's a wah distortion combo and it's uh, it's basically I leave the overdrive on to give it that extra amount of grit in my tone. Yeah. Because I used to use a tube screamer for that,

but um, but then once, uh, you know, I started talking to Morley about this, uh, I was like, well, what if we did something like that? Because I, because I, they asked me if they wanted to do a wah, uh, for me. They asked me if I, I was interested in just kind of a wah

And I was like, well, I don't really use a wah That much anymore, you know, only for certain little parts But I was like, how about we do something where like I use it a lot Where I could just put an overdrive on there and leave it on to give my tone that extra amount of grit. Yeah, so yeah, and we worked on it over the course of a few months and really got it got it flowing It's flowing, dude Yeah, man. love this thing.

So yeah, it's available on Guitar Center on Sweetwater and a bunch of other websites. So yeah, make your purchase today if you want a killer growly bass tone.

And it just, I mean, it just came out what in like August or something is like recent. Yeah, yeah, launched in July. Okay.

Very recent. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, dude, like you know what I'm going to ask and ask. You got to hear it, man.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's check this out. Yeah. We need some on and off, the wares, the whole nine, yeah. The whole nine, yeah. So, it's like, I'll turn it off. Pretty soft, but then you turn it on, it's like,

Oh, yeah. And then the wa, then you could adjust the intensity of the wa. Dude, it sounds like you're on drugs. It's sick. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you could adjust the level of, of, of the wa. Yeah, the blend. Yeah, like the blend, yeah.

Whoa. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like the attack blend kind of. Because sometimes you want more wa, but like it's what this is the, yeah, this is it. Right. But you could crank it or you could make it a little bit lower. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's great for that.

Because like sometimes with was, they can get a little bit noisy for me. So having that feature where I can adjust it where it, um, it can be like the right level. Yeah. Is, uh, is really nice. Mm.

Yeah. What songs do you, uh, what? Uh, so, I mean, the Waa,

let's see, itself, I mostly use it in, um, well, I use the overdrive and every song, like on this pedal. That's like,

that's your main tone. Yeah, that's my main tone. So, um, so I use that every song. But the Wa particularly, I'll use it on,

um, usually like kind of out, Outros, like maybe the outro of skyscraper, like the live ending, when I do a bunch of fills and stuff on the base, I'll throw it in there. Or like, um, like on the NIB, we do like a Black Sabbath cover of NIB sometimes. Um, and I'll do that, uh, to that intro sometimes with a little wah in there. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's badass, moot. Thanks, man. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great, great color way too with, um, with the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the racer. car blue kind of thing.

Yeah, that's the fucking hot blue, dude. Yeah, that's the color. It's called hot blue. Yep, hot blue, yep. That's it. So what happened with the... Yeah. So what happened with the song Skyscraper?

Because that's just... Because he got in a car accident, right? Oh, yeah. So what happened with that song is I... I was about... Which is the other sick intro, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's a sick bass intro. Yeah, I was, I was like 16 or something. I had just got my license and got in a car accident. And then, like, we were, at the time, we were recording the record. And then, you know, I was just like, with, you know, Brian and I, we were just like, well, let's write lyrics for this tune. Like, I wasn't, you know, the big lyric writer, usually. Like I usually just kind of wrote the, you know, the riffs and stuff, like the music of it, you know.

Yeah, but you were one song lyrics for that record, correct? Yeah, and that song, and him and I collabed on the lyrics and was like, well, let's talk about like the car accident and, like, the things, things that kind of went down sort of in my head during the accident and like. What happened? Yeah. Well, so I was, I was trying to, I was. following my friend to like this we're gonna jam somewhere in uh we're gonna jam somewhere in like ventura area or something um we're on the freeway i think like in the freeway yeah the one-on-one or something oh no yeah dude it was like we were and i was like following him and like there was a truck there um and it was going really fast and i i was like i was trying to rush to get to

the exit because i was like i saw him I was like, shit, I'm on the wrong lane. So I cut it, I tried to cut off the kind of cut in front of the, the semi-truck. And it just one-tapped me, man, sent me spinning. It's like, yeah. And then, then I was like, there was this tree that caught me from, like, my car from going down a ditch. So I got real lucky. But, yeah, I was a pretty, pretty wild.

You could have died, man. Yeah, I know. I got real lucky and grateful, grateful to be alive. But yeah, I was a crazy, crazy experience. And you just got your license, too. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, it was like a couple months in.

What was that, what was that phone call like? Were you like, hey, I just got in an accident? I was flipping on the freeway. Yeah, and that phone call was like, I just got an accident. then then like on the phone with my dad or like he's like fuck man

I was like yeah I'm glad to be alive and it's like yeah it's a good thing you got lucky you know and I remember telling my I was actually first person I called was my friend and I was following him my friend he's a good drummer we were gonna jam yeah

and I called him and I was and he just like he didn't even like he didn't even like he didn't even take me to explain he's like it's like tie i'm coming right there like i'm on my way oh that's cool man i'm turning around i'm coming that's cool and he was like i was like okay like and then um then he met me yeah it met me there and we're like all right well let's figure this out take some deep breaths you know and then yeah do when you're in a car accident dude it is yeah it is the worst oh yeah

Yeah, I wasn't in the correction when I was how old was I? A part of like, right, like 12. Wow. Yeah, just in chronic the, there was, we're turning left and, uh, yeah, there's a car speeding. Like, yeah, it was like a residential street. So like, you just call it, they're probably going like, you know, 20. Yeah. But they were going like, think something like, like 35 or something.

Yeah, and hit, and hit the tail of the car and we fucking, fucking spin. Man, is this, when you're actually in the, like, in the, car it feels like oh right like holy shit yeah did you get injured or no lucky lucky wow sometimes you get lucky dude yeah that was one of those moments like oh shit got wow he could have been so much worse someone right did the car get totaled yeah total yeah yeah yeah we had a a forward expedition yeah and that and that thing was total it was nice too it was fucking yeah it hit it hit the tail but if if we were going like a little bit slow Then it would have hit it would have hit my mom and part killed her but but since it hit the tail and we spun

It was fine. It was just like it builds like a few feet difference yeah I'd be doing away fucking more wow fucking crazy yeah man I would thank God you know you guys are alive and You do spinning on the freeway though yeah Yeah yeah man I mean car accidents are yeah it's crazy I mean living you know and In L.A., it's like, it's so much, you know, just the crazy drivers out here, like in these big cities, like any big city. I mean, especially this city, I mean, this part of the world, you know, it's just a lot of accidents. I drive past a lot. Every day.

Yeah. It's always something. I look very closely to when I'm driving here and around here, like, especially when I'm going to L.A. I'm always looking at, like, I'll try to make, like, not eye contact. but I'll try to see what the person is doing. And I'll literally see someone like, oh, it's my right or left. They're like driving on their phone.

I'm like, okay. They're like not paying attention. They're on the fucking freeway. I'm just lay back a little bit. Yeah. In case anything happens. Yeah. Yeah, you kind of have to be on your toes.

Definitely. Yeah, man. And I went on the drive here. I was on a lot of freeway. So I saw a lot of crazy drivers. It's like, so it's every day. Every day there's always, there was always some drive here.

drivers and people getting in accidents. Well, unfortunately, when stuff like that happens, you have a sick song. Yeah. And that's always... Yeah. It's always good. Inspiring. Almost died.

Sick song. I got dumped. Sick song. Sick record. Sick record. Yeah. If something bad happens, it always... That's kind of like the cool thing about music.

If something terrible happens, you get to channel it. Yeah. Yeah. Something sick. Totally. Like, it's inspiring. Like, it can generate some really cool art. Yeah.

So, that's like track two on the record, right? Track two? Am I? I think so, yeah. Track two or track three? Yeah. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah.

See, in my memory, search correct. Track two, boom. Nice. Yep. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Life is a game. Yep, life is a game.

In case you're curious what record is. What's that first bass riff? So the first bass riff, is uh remember that had a really cool yeah cool cool cool yeah

yeah it's a love this thing up yeah nice yeah it's a nice grooving groving dude yeah yeah

we gotta do a rundown of your bases dude yeah yeah let's do a rundown so you got uh so you got this I want to say that's Olympic white

yeah right Olympic white yes yeah um so I actually haven't plug this one in

yeah dude let's freaking plug it in dude let's plug it in dude let's plug it in Let's test it out because the electronics weren't working at first. But, um... But, uh...

Oh, that thing's freaking. Oh, nice. Sounds pretty good. It worked. I think it works. Yeah, it works pretty well. Yeah. See how it sounds with a pick.

Nice. Sick, dude. Yeah. So it says you're a main or backup? Well, this one actually... I mean... I haven't played this one actually on stage or anything yet. So it might, but hearing it right now,

because this is like the first time I actually heard it work. Oh. Might be my main base. Maybe. Oh, sick, dude. Yeah, this one is my main base, though, right now. The Nash. But, yeah, this thing is killer.

I want to see Maple Neck. Yeah, Maple Neck. Maple Fretboard? Maple fretboard, yep. Yeah, maple fretboards are. Or up my alley. Gives that, that,

like, bright tone. Yeah. I really like pops. Yeah. It's fucking popper, dude. Yeah.

Yeah. I heard you talk about when, you're trying to learn. Yeah. Because obviously you're a, you're a finger player, so you're trying to,

like, learn how to have a gallop. Yeah. With, with your fingers. Yeah. How do you start doing that as, like, a bass player?

Because obviously with the pick is way different. Like, you just do that. But with the, but when you're doing with your fingers, how do you, do you develop that? So like I remember I practiced really slow at first so I was like I started first

like just kind of doing it's a bit every day and like open each string like and then um yeah exactly yeah and then when I as I got used to it more just uh and this that's with the two fingers I just go faster and then I just get up to like yeah and that's just with two fingers that's just with two fingers that's just with two fingers, yeah. Are you playing along something or what? Which, yeah, with, like, with the two fingers, I was like, usually, like, that's, that's how I picked it up, but then, uh, sometimes I'll use three every now and then, but, um, but, but yeah, I was just kind of, yeah, improvising just, it's great to improvise, like, you, and,

like, the soloing and stuff. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Okay, so, so, so, so you, so you just practice it slow. and then you just build up your speed. Yeah, pretty much. It takes a lot of patience, to be honest,

because it's just like, like, you know, developing any new skill, but like with the galloping especially, I remember that took like a few days for me to get it up to speed because I'm just like, oh, you know, just sit down and just kind of gallop slowly. It's, you know, it's kind of boring,

but like eventually when I was up to speed, I was like, oh, this is fucking awesome, you know? How fast to tie how fast can we go? Man how fast can we go? I let's see Yeah I can't do it as fast some other guys but Yeah That's sick

Yeah So are you jamming along to songs at all? Which were like jamming jamming to the songs? Yeah are you like to like To kind of like Yeah get your galloping down better. Are you trying to,

I want to learn like this song or something, you know. Like, what was a tune that kind of like had? Like a lot of the, a lot of the Iron Maiden tunes have good galloping. Like actually, I actually learned the, like, just like that one riff. I didn't learn the rest of the song, but it's great, you know,

Steve Harris' bass lines. It's great for galloping. Yeah. Actually, when I was watching, deal out that little of Iron Maiden has popped up in my brain for some reason. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of funny that you brought him up.

Yeah, because he also plays the P-Base. Of course he does. He has a great tone, you know, with the Maple Neck. Iron-Maneck. P-base. Yep. Maple Neck. They're awesome live, man.

Oh, of course, legends, dude. Yeah. One of the biggest bands on the planet, dude. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Steve Harris, man. Yeah. So you want to learn some bass gallops if you're a bass player, listening and watch and jam some Iron Maiden.

Yes, classic. Definitely. I think I want, what, what, what the song was I playing? Shit, what's the, God dang it. I fucked up, Ty. Don't worry. All good. We all do it.

What's that, oh, yeah. I fuck up every day. Oh, same. Something. Same here. And it's always, fuck ups are good because then that allows, like, learning so oh yeah okay okay oh there it is what yeah what's that last tag i think so i don't even yeah oh yeah i've played that song in wow it's just yeah yeah yeah it's so

sick. Man, so awesome. Yeah. It's also one of those Iron Maiden is actually one of those rare bands where the baseline looks harder than the breadth that's already hard. Yeah. It looks... Because you're like, yeah, you're like... Would that be a gallop? Yeah. I think so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a gallop, yeah.

Yeah. It's hot, dude. Yeah, it's definitely, yeah. Dude, I got to jam some more Iron Maiden songs. I know. I think I got to jam some more Maiden songs, too. Some good bass lines. There's some songs you learn that just make you a better player.

Ari Maiden is definitely on that list. I mean, you don't have to like them. You don't have to like the song. But if you learn those songs, you're going to become a better player. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. It's those tunes. I mean, the guitar parts, like three different guitars.

It must be difficult to dissect each part. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of hard, freaking baselines, dude, so you're also in suicidal tendencies. Congratulations on that. And that's a gig. Yeah. I mean, what are those like, what are those baselines like, dude?

Dude, yeah. I mean, there are some intricate, there's some intricate stuff on there. I think some of the most intricate stuff I've played by them, with them, you know, is some of that stuff on Lights Camera Revolution is pretty crazy. Like, it's a song called Lost Again that goes into like multiple sections. It's like, it's got this section that's insane. That's like this bridge section is like, and that goes to this other section or the same section later on.

It's like, but it's fun to play. live because once or like the riff is really it's like gets the crowd moving first of all and then also um it's uh it's like a fun riff once you get it because it's like it's a lot of movement but it's like a fun kind of tongue twister yeah dude i was gonna ask you like what are like what are like hardest what are the hardest baselines for you would would that be considered one of them i would say it's one of the this that song was one of the most difficult songs i've of learned by them, but also one of the most fun songs I've never learned of them. So it's like a, it was a great challenge. And they're, me and the, the band members, like, we always say like, we love,

we love playing those tunes because they're such, they're a good challenge. And especially with the guitar parts for them, it's a lot of downpicking. Oh, yeah. They love the challenge behind it. And so, yeah, that's great. So they're, so they're downpicking. You're just freaking, it's ripping, dude. Trying. No, no, you're so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, That'll probably be one of like the harder ones. Yeah, probably, yeah, that tune's one of the harder ones for sure. Any more, any more come to mind? You're like, oh, just part of the song.

Shit, shit, yeah, I mean, like, another song off that record, like, get whacked is, like, it's a tricky one, or discos out, murders in, that one, too. They're, like, and they're fun once you get, like, they're fun to learn. They're, like, a good challenge. and once you play them like when playing him live it's just like wow the energy is just so yeah so so incredible yeah what's that line uh they get whacked line is like a kind of like that um this goes out it has just a lot of sections so the riff isn't particularly hard but there's just so many like sections throughout the song that like changes yeah like um i think it's like And a lot of drum fills to look out for.

Yeah. Like, I think the intro is like, and then like crazy drum fill or something. And then, yeah, it's just a bunch of changes throughout the song. But, yeah, it's my favorite, probably my favorite era of suicidal. Really? Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible.

Yeah, those Iron Maiden Gallops are really coming in handy, huh? Yeah, they come in handy for those tunes for sure, because. They're so fast, you know, like always like changes here, changes there. So very fun. I've seen, uh, for, for some reason when I thought Gallops and baseball, I thought base players used three fingers. Is that, is that common or? Yeah, I mean, um, a lot of base players do use three fingers. Like, uh, and, uh, I don't know, I, I, I just used two always, but I, you know, I, you know,

I kind of think I should start using three for certain things if I want to play faster because the third finger is definitely like helpful. Oh so it is. Oh, so it is. Oh, okay. But that's a crazy technique like some of those guys that like, you know, Alex Webster, cannibal corpse. Yeah.

Yeah. He uses a three finger technique because it's fast. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do you, it's like a fucking, it's like a fucking spider on crack. Yeah. I don't know how he does it.

but those lines are crazy a different world oh yeah yeah so if you want to if you want to go faster in that you would have to you yeah do you do you think you would have to do a two three finger yeah i think so i mean i know everyone has their own technique i know some people do the technique where they kind of do like the two fingers together and they like do and then they push it out two and they almost use it as a pick. I haven't really gotten that really, but some players are really really good at that. But your style is the two finger? I would say so, yeah.

Let's say two finger and occasionally I'll throw in a third finger if I want to play a little faster, but mainly, yeah, two fingers, let's say. Well, the two finger things sound fine at me. We were playing those suicidal tunes. Yeah, thanks, man. Yeah. Yeah, they can keep up with the suicidal stuff. So that's cool.

Yeah, I don't know if I could do that with a pick. Yeah, with a pick. It's cool with a pick. It's the Gallup. I like playing with a pick too. It gets that tone, you know? Oh, yeah. On the bass, you know.

So it's cool. Yeah, don't some base players say it's cheating. Some base players say it's cheating, you know? And there's a whole like, like a pick. kind of people commenting on the pick playing but pick haters but but it's I think it's good to play both might as well to get you know at least on recording sometimes you know a pick you can get that tone yeah why why know what why no one thing when you learn you learn two things right yeah why you know yeah exactly it's it's good to have that our base pair uses a pick yeah he sucks but you know

I was kidding. It says call for it with style, I guess. Yeah. Corn. It works good. Yeah, corn, I guess. Finger and finger and this. Yeah.

Slap. It works. Yeah. He'll be slapping it. Yep. It works for that, by that freaking sound. It works.

Yeah. It works. It works. It's that tone. Yep. It's a very signature style. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Do it kind of like a full circle? I think, hey, Jay, did you, I think you found the, uh, you found that we're a bass amp huh that's cool I thought I thought about it again today so I think we found we back so we're going right by the jaco

circling back so it's an MXR rack mount era amp oh it's that's what it's a fucking pitch transposer and a flanger doubler

wow that makes sense it's a flanger yeah it's wow Yeah, that makes sense now. It looks killer. It looks cool. It sounds cool. I want to get my hands on one of those.

You should, man. I'm surprised you don't have a stack of them. Yeah, man. Get it. Take it on the road. That literally looks exactly what he was using. Yeah. Yep.

Digital delay too. Achieving his iconic lush and modulated chorus like sound. Yeah. I think's sick, dude. Yeah, dude. Wow. Is that just a bass thing or is it like a... No.

No. I don't know. It probably could be used for guitar. Yeah. Wow. Just effects, huh? I wonder how much those go for it. Probably now, dude, fucking, it's all about the old gear.

People are spending just dumb money. You know what I love on bass is Flandger. Flanger is nice. I love flanger and bass, not a lot of bass players do it. Yeah, it's nice on bass. I'd like to, like, kind of branch out into some, like, Flanger chorus on base for some sections.

Yeah, do you have a pedal board? I have a, I did have one. Like I had a couple pedals on my board. Yeah, like a... Oh, it's not too much. 895, you found. Oh, an 895, not bad.

Ooh, did it? Oh, yeah. Nice. If you want to get horned up, do you to spend nine bucks to get super fucking horned, man. Yep, super horned. Yeah. But one distortion pedal I really like is X-Xcel.

Tech 21. It was really nice for like really like for like kind of a fuzzy plus buzzed yeah

okay I guess it's so a distortion more but really yep that's it right there and it looks mean too like okay

yeah okay I never seen this pedal yeah it's pretty cool I don't think they're in production anymore but

level tone warp Yeah The fuck's a warp knob Yeah I think it makes it sound kind of muddy But the warp kind of does But like Sound warpy

Warpy Yeah Futuristic Okay Okay I never seen this pedal Yeah That's cool

Man we're always finding new shit here Yeah I'm like dude I don't know shit You always find these new pedals New artists Yeah Okay And this was probably

Pre Tree Drive right Yeah pre-tree drive right? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I've been using this pedal a long time. So do you just basically, like, eliminate your pedal board because of this pedal? Yeah, I think that was part of the reason, but also, because, like, this already has, like, a wah on it, too. So, you know, I don't need to use as many.

And also, I don't need to use the tube screamer anymore because I have the overdrive right there. Okay. And so I kind of keep, I like to keep it limited, too, because I like to, I don't want to bring a bunch of stuff around. constantly. Sure. So it's nice to keep it simple. Especially like flying around. Yeah, definitely.

So basically you would probably just bring this thing. Yeah, pretty much. And a tuner. Yep, this thing and a tuner. Okay, wow. Okay, so just fucking two pedals, you're fucking ready to rock. Exactly. Yep, and then I use my wireless sure system.

And that's good. You got to be wireless, man. Yeah. You got to be fucking wireless. Got to move around. Oh, yeah. Be mobile on that stage for sure. Hey, Jay, you have any questions?

What are some of your favorite bands and artists like right now? Like, you know, people should check out or are that your jamming, you know? Yeah. Let's see. A band I've been listening to a lot lately. Well, I've been listening to, let's see, Eagles of Death Metal, a good amount lately. They have a residency at the Tehran Ballroom. And they've been great.

and they're great guys, you know, and great live band, very fun and cool and great tunes. Yeah. So that's a group. I've been rocking out too. Good amount. Yeah, they're playing, yeah, on the 30th,

so definitely. I think this is their last show of the Red. Yeah. Right? Yeah, their last show of it. So, pretty killer. That's the word. That's the word I can't say.

Regency. Was it? Terragam? No, no, no. Regency Ballroom or? Yeah. Oh, residency, yeah, yeah. Redency.

Yeah. Redenance. Redenancy. So, for the only words, I can't say. Yeah, it's a complicated word. Redidence? Fuck! Yeah, so, yeah, they've been doing this to the past, like, four months, right?

Yeah. It was like, sick. Yeah. Yeah, they were sick live. Nice. Who else? I've been listening to, let's see, so there's this solo artist,

singer, her name's Softblade. She does, like, atmospheric music. Soft Blade, okay. She's pretty cool. Yeah. That's cool cover. Yeah, pretty cool. I've been listening to that.

I think she plays bass a little bit too. She's pretty cool. I think she did, like, some, like, reels and stuff and like cool videos. You also been jamming some some Tame Impala? I was, yeah, I was big into it. Like, I, I, uh, I know you released some new music.

I, uh, but yeah, I, I, Tame Impala is a big group I would like, listen to and stuff. And like, I, I still rock to his, some of his tunes. Hmm. And, uh, like that, that first, that first record, uh,

was it? Inner speaker. Such a great. Inner speaker, okay. Such a great, yeah, such a great record, man. Nice. Great bass lines. He's a really good bass player, like a lot of, like, feely kind of stuff, you know.

Who's a bass player? So it's all one guy, Kevin Parker. Why I know that? Yeah, so he, so he hires a band to go on tour with him. Oh, why are I know that? But, yeah, it's all one guy, and he, yeah, and he plays all the instruments. So, like. It's pretty incredible.

One of those, this songwriting geniuses, psychos. Yeah. He's incredible. I see a fender of stress, so I'm freaking horned up. Yeah, hell yeah. Anyone that we're missing? I mean, obviously, like, Queens of the Stone Age and Allison Chains are like, you know, my favorite groups, like, growing up.

So, like, I've been, like, kind of looping back listening to them a lot, too. Nice. Yeah. But, and there's so many, there's so many great new bands coming in now, too. So it's always good to, like, I always like to keep my eye open for, like, new groups. Yeah. Coming out. So. Like Otto.

Yeah. Boom. Oh, of course, man. Yeah. Well, Ty, anything that we, uh, anything that we missed? I think, yeah. I think we covered a good amount, man. Well, anything about.

Anything about you or Otto that you want out there in the world? Yeah, I mean, just stay tuned for the EP. It's out and give it a listen. And yeah, feel free. If you guys want to, you know, comment on what you guys think about the new tunes and everything, it's out. And, yeah, stay tuned pretty much. We're constantly doing new things and working on... new material and trying to keep the machine moving.

All right, Jay, you're ready? Okay, do me, do me and Ty look alike? Oh, well, you know, people in the comments might draw a comparison between your palms and Garza. Maybe he's your Theo, you know? Yeah, I wonder. It's also why Ty kind of went into your, I went to your, I went to your, background in my way what's you know what what what is he and what are they because there's some kind of similarities with yeah with like your family and me because people like like like

compare them yeah i'm looking at you yeah i'm like it's like a fuck i'm like seeing like like like like like younger me i what's your ethnic background originally uh i guess i'm french now i don't know honestly uh tie i don't know i'm i'm um i'm a little bit Spanish Okay. I know there's some Indian in me. Cool. But as far as that, it's really all I know. I'm kind of embarrassing.

I really haven't done like a deep dive into myself. And seeing you, I might need to figure it out. Yeah, man. Maybe we're related somehow. Imagine that, dude. Like fucking long-lost cousins. Long-lost cousins, yeah. Yeah, we kind of look like each other.

But you're like doing like the smart route and I went like the old man route. Like it turned into a freaking alcohol. You know all these wrinkles, dude. Don't be hard on yourself. It's all good. It's the artist in you. You're always hard in yourself. Always, man.

I suck, I suck. I suck. I suck. Yeah, I get it. I'm like that too. I'm like, man, I should, I can be doing more. I can always be doing more. Never ends, dude.

No matter how good I'm doing, the band's doing this doing, I'm always like, oh, it's all. It's all going to fall apart. Yeah. Yeah. One last thing. Yeah. It can either be sick or. Or you go flop.

Yeah. You want to do like a, I think maybe like a free form jam outro. Yeah. See what happens? You down? Yeah. Okay, cool. I love jamming like that.

Right. Let's rock. Let's rock, man. Man, Ty, you went into an other dimension. I love jamming. Dude, you were like not, you were here, but you were somewhere else at the same time. Yeah. It was fucking sick, dude.

Yeah. That was sick, man. You love this. You love, you love the bass, man. It's cool. I see it, man. Thanks, man. Yeah, I love me.

Love music, love the bass. Yeah. Well, Ty, you've been playing bass for most of your life, man. That's crazy to think that, yeah. Most of your life. It's such a trip. I saw it. Yeah, I was in your world for like a good, like 30 seconds.

Oh, man. Thanks. Yeah. You know, it's crazy that, yeah, I've been playing most of my life and I love doing it, you know. Well, yeah, man. Yeah. I wish you more success. Thank you.

And I also, congratulations are also being focused. Thank you, man. Not a lot of people have that. Yeah, yeah. I know it's hard. There's distractions. Everybody gets thrown into distractions and stuff. It's all it is.

It's difficult for some people to. Yeah. It's really hard to stay a focus, man. Yeah. Well, Ty, where can people find you? Where do you want people to go, the bands? Yeah. I mean, you guys, you can find.

You find auto band on Instagram, so that's us. My personal Instagram, I'm Taitrue. And then on our website, it's like otoban.com. We'll have some shows announced pretty soon, so we'll start gigging and stuff. And then, yeah, you can come to suicidal shows, hang out, and auto shows. And, yeah, stay tuned, most importantly. Stay tuned. Yeah.

Ty, thank you for your time and thank you for jamming, man. Thank you for having me, man. Anytime, man. It's awesome to be here. Good hanging. Pleasure, man. All right, everyone. That's it.

Later.