Garza Podcast - 218 - Favorite Deathcore Bands, God & Writer’s Block

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

Garza is back for a solo episode. Diving into the spiritual world, NAMM 2026 & much more.SPONSORS: DistroKid - https://distrokid.com00:00 - NAMM 2026 & Quad Cortex Mini04:38 - Bareknuckle Pickups10:03 - Winter Cleaning14:30 - Amp vs Guitar18:53 - Backing Tracks?25:27 - Top 3 Deathcore Bands37:17 - Best/Worst Part of the Podcast45:23 - God & Religion56:23 - Cost of Touring1:06:37 - Inspiration & Writer’s Block1:15:29 - Hawt or Shat? New Riff1:20:51 - Temple Audio PedalboardThank you TinyWashbear for our Patreon question!

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let's get to the podcast. Rolling, chugging, going. Welcome to the first official solo EP of 2006. I was looking and one thing I learned from last year was I don't like how I didn't, it felt like we didn't check in that much. I was a little bit too excited with talking to as many people as possible. So my goal with this year is just to do like a monthly check-in. Just one solo EP a month, which it also just keeps like the muscle going. The listening and talking muscle is a very weak muscle. You got to just constantly.

And I have learned that from just being social, going out to shows constantly. one day it just clicked oh shit i'm like i'm not like this introvert that i thought i was but anyway i thank you for listening watching this is this is definitely uh are we already in february jeez man this is fucking nuts dude i just uh let's see last week of january was uh was nam and that's what i've been doing and i saw the future i saw I saw the future and you're going to see it in my rig very soon, but I ran into, I went to Nam, which if you don't know what Nam is, it's a massive, massive music convention and basically almost every piece of musical gear or related to musical gear that you could even possibly

imagine. So I went there Thursday, pop in, take a few photos, pop out, Friday, Saturday, and, yeah, I saw the future. The Quad Cortex mini. I saw it in person. It's just, I just can't believe it how far guitar tone has come. This is ridiculous. I mean, it's already kind of insane what we have now. I could put this in my backpack.

Um, but it's what I've been looking for. It's exactly what I want because I've been debating on getting another one and having it. It does sketch me out to have my whole tone in front of me because, you know, I'm drinking beer. I'm stomping on the, I'm stomping pretty heavy. I could break it. Uh, it could be some water issue or someone who just jump on a stage and break it. I've rolled around on it before. So it's always kind of sketched me out

To have everything in front of me A little bit too much What I wanted to do was Have a quad in the front Act as a MIDI controller And have the actual go to another quad in the back That's the main tone that That the P8 plugs into

But I was like, oh it's kind of It's kind of pointless to have like a whole other quad But now with the mini I could put all it's the same tone it's the same sound into one little thing and I could put it in the bag it's insane dude so it basically that's the same thing

just with less button so that's what I was really into this past weekend it was really cool to see it in person we've actually already had a guest bring it in so look forward to that in February so

Yeah, I just something a little bit different. I've freaking walked around like a, like a, a, a psycho. Just sober. Usually it's like, you know, walk in, fucking half a drink or two. But now I fucking Friday, I just popped in and I just sober as fuck. It was, it was really cool. I got a lot done. Friday I did a, what would you call it?

Like some kind of demo. I played a few songs for a bare knuckle pickups. I've been trying to do it for three years. And so it's really cool. Because I saw a microphone spirit box do it, and I got a little bit jealous. So after two years of asking, I finally got to do it.

Cool. Played unanswered. Played no pity. And I played Disengage. And it was really a lot different when it's only you. I say, well, if I fuck up, man. I mean, whole world's going to hear it.

Holy shit, Jay, how'd you find this? I've been looking. I can't find anything, but Jay already found something. You've got to go to the tagged, tagged section here. Oh, I'm tagging that? Yeah, yeah, people are tagging you. Oh, how do I not know that? Okay, cool.

Nice. Always learning, always learning. Yeah, it's me messing with the mini. And I'm like, okay, it's just me. Am I going to, I mean, do I stand there? am I going to head bang? Am I going to do a couple of shots before? Is it what, what do I do?

And I also just like anything I was like, you know, I'm just going to let the moment take over. I'm not going to decide. But I decided on Friday not drinking at all, not even for a nice little shot prep. You know, when I feel like head bang in the moment, I'm going to do it. And yeah, I went pretty hard at 40 years old.

So going, it was fun, man. It's a really cool meeting. if I met you, it was an absolute pleasure. It was really cool being, doing something like that by myself. I hung out with Keon, the awesome guitar player from Adelaide, Australia. He was really cool. He introduced me into a new-old DSP. I've been wanting to meet them for a while.

Hung out with Jack from Slaughter to Bebel. He flew out from the tour, which as suicide sounds. It's on tour now. So check them out. And I'm here in California still. So it's cool to see Jack and it's bullshit. But I did. I'm going to do this again next year.

We're being there not drinking. I'm going to drink before. Thursday, I may not have got a text from a friend that was in town that I couldn't ignore. So I took an Uber to hang out with Meigs, Meigs from Cold Chamber. And we drank a lot, a lot of vodka and crayon. So Friday I was hungover And Saturday, but Actually, you know what I was thinking today?

If you're hungover, are you still, Are you technically still drunk? Are you technically still? What's, that hit me today. I was like, I'm thinking, if you're hungover, are you still like, So according to AI, yes, it is possible to still be technically drunk

or under the influence of alcohol. whole while experiencing a hangover. Interesting. And what if AI says it, well, never mind, I guess I was drinking. I guess I'll be drunk. No.

No, not a, I woke up fine on Friday. Got a full night's rest. Same with Friday night, Saturday night. And I was carrying my, I parked far away each, all three days. And I didn't realize, but when you're carrying stuff, like how much you use your traps like my everyone's all complaining about their back and I'll slowly

you I'm like dude I feel fine because I'm in shape but the traps were like holy crap I don't realize when you're carrying something that your traps are like are really a big piece of that like upper it was it was it was gnarly man but uh yeah again shout out to burn uncle thank you for having me thank you for those I was really surprised on the turnout.

I really don't know what to expect. You know, it was by myself. You know, I didn't have the band to kind of fall back on. So it was pretty fucking cool. So that's what I've been doing. Yeah, again, future. Future, man. It is, I can't put into words what the quad cortex mini means.

I'm like, this is, man, I remember being, know, oh man, 12 or 13 is having a big ass amp. And that's all, that's all you had. I mean, you made it. But man, we all have access to this stuff. And I'll say it again and again. But, man, like the, the playing field is, uh, is very even.

But, uh, but yeah, let's, uh, we should take it over to a J. How, how you've been, man? Pretty good. Can I say? having fun doing this. Horned up. Yeah, pretty horned up. I've been going to the gym this whole month.

Nice. Everything's cool. Looking forward to the guests that we got coming on. And yeah, just keep on, keeping on. Hell yeah, man. Gims and cookies. Yeah, gyms and cookies. That's it.

That's it, man. Yeah, so a lot of the stuff I want, I'm not sure we talked about it on the best of. I know we touched on it, but I think it was before we went on our vacation, huh? Yeah, so we did that prior. So, yeah, man, I learned a lot. The winter cleaning did happen. And it's working, which is actually going to tie into a question.

I'm going to answer later. But it's working. Yeah, just winter cleaning, clean the room, clean the bathroom, clean my car. clean my email my email when I started it was 900 emails

and I was like oh shit but finally dude it was the winter break and well until like January I was just I was going through everything like organizing like the email

now it's at like 30 and now when an email pops up it's just like I'm a quick to respond. And another one, I finally cleaned out my DMs. Oh, my goodness. I've been talking to a few people. It's not lost anymore.

That both I've been trying to, if it's not an overloaded question, I've been replying more often there. It feels, I can't put it into words. I'll try to answer it more later because it kind of ties in, but, uh, there's something to it. There's something. I don't know how, I don't know how shit gets so messy. messy. Like you clean your room and then it's just a mess again. Like how did this fucking happen?

You fucking clean your car? It's a mess again. Like what is what is that? So I've been a really working at end of December all of January it has been cleaning. My Mac, my Mac mini where I work, I mean, it was a mess. My podcast episodes were everywhere. The desktop was a mess. But I finished that last week. It's just nice to open up the computer and see a picture of my lady. I put her up there. And it's just a couple folders. I know, I know where to go. It's like, damn, this is, it's boring stuff.

I remember, like, if people ask me, you know, you got any advice or something, like, dude, it's boring stuff, dude. Like, well, that would help with, like, motivation or being inspired. It's clean, clean your mess. It cleaned my Google Docs, my, the Google Drive. Drive is all this fucking this tornado, but all that's been, uh, been wiped out. So that's been really fucking cool. And, uh, this Saturday, I'm saving it. Uh, Jay got me a cigar for my birthday and I've been saving it. I'm, I'm, I'm going to smoke it this Saturday when like, I'm officially done cleaning. I got a couple more, a couple of small things to do, uh, with

organizing. And once that's done, I'm planning to be here Saturday. just smoked that cigar, that birthday cigar. So I think, thank you for that, Jane. Just let the freedom. Sometimes you've got to let freedom just wash over you. Just let it go. So that's, uh, so nothing too exciting. I mean, really, it's just been cleaning.

Cleaning, uh, setting up February, uh, for all you and myself. And, uh, yeah, so yeah, expect, uh, monthly check-ins. That's where I learned. Me and you were looking at what we did last year. I'm like, you know, I noticed like it's just kind of really haven't been checking in a lot. So expect that once a month. Just, it's funny because you, man, even right this second, like, you forget how to do it. It's like, you just forget.

It's like fucking gnarly. But anyway, before I go on to any, uh, any rants, uh, we have some questions. And we should just, we, we should just dive in. into it. So, uh, Jay, prepping you in advance. I know for sure I'm going to need, uh,

help pronouncing some of these names. But yeah, first one is from actually our Patreon. Patreon slash Discord. Um, I think I got this one. Uh, tinny wash bear. I would say tiny,

probably. Tiny wash bear. Tini, tiny. Oh yeah. Tiny wash bear. Cool. And his profile picture, if you can't see it, is from King the Hill. Okay.

Are you an advocate for spending more money on your amp slash rig or on the guitar itself? And where do you stand on quotations, laptop bands that run a lot of music through backing tracks and don't have a single pedal anymore? Oh, man, I could go. There's a couple ways I could go about this. I guess, I guess there's two parts to this question. There's just literally two questions. Are you advocate for spending more money on your amp?

More guitar. So right off, right off the top of my brain. Again, if you don't have the money, that's fine. But I will say that try to get,

if you're in a position where you can, um, get the get the thing you want the first time around because you're end up going to be like you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna be like me

when I was teenage you're not I just would just sell it and keep buying stuff when I just I think if I were to look back I would just buy

the one thing what I want the first time I should just bought a PV 5152 the first time um and then I should have went on with my life

I don't know how many amps I bought or eBay guitars uh so if you're in in a position. So when I was, I didn't start working until I was,

I think 17. So all that money went to, I mean, wasted gear. I should just bought one thing. That's it. I'm staying here. This,

this guitar. But I guess you're asking also on the guitar or the amp. Now, this is where it gets different from my era, when your era, I was just having a conversation with the key on. about this.

I would say spend money on the guitar. Spend money on the guitar because there's free plugins out there. So you could I'll just get the riff stick that you want. Something that gets you horned up, save

some cash. You could do what I did, which were for me, just work. I was washing dishes and I spent that money on gear. So I would be personally, I would spend money on the guitar first because there's free plugins out there. You got free plugins and used Macs and all this cheap stuff that's basically going to get you the same thing. I have a friend that I won't name, but man, he's ever since I've known him, he just found a way to hack everything.

Like everything he had was hacked. Logic was hacked. this plugin was hacked. I don't know how he did it. I'm not sure, like the legalities anymore if they fixed that, but I remember back in the day when everything was coming out,

like late into high school, like he just got everything. He was just hacking it. He found ways. But yeah, that would be my personal, I don't want to say advice, but trying to learn from my mistakes. But now it's the game has changed.

The plugins is free or, I mean, find something at a discount. And, yeah, that's my answer. Guitar. And what was the second part, Jay, to the... And where do you stand on quotations, laptop bands that run a ton of music through backing tracks and don't have to sing better anymore?

Okay, so this is actually a tough one, man. This is because, again, like, I just turned forward. I'm getting older and I do want to remain again learn from my mistakes when you close your mind to things you kind of lose

so I try not to be like the jaded guy they run a ton of music through backing tracks and don't have a single pedal anymore I think if it if it's there I guess I can relate this to gent and the Axe FX.

wasn't my thing, but some guitar players found their voice through that. So, uh, like, that was just their tone. That was just, that's their voice. I guess now, if that's their sound, I guess, why not do it? Um, if, I don't know. I mean, yeah, we, we had a guest already here that, I remember I asked my question, can you play this riff? And he was like, no, it was sped up in the studios. Oh, shit. Um, That was that there's somebody tyrant. I was like, oh shit. And a lot of people love that band. So is that wrong or right? I don't know. I was watching a band at House of Blues.

Packed. It was packed. I remember thinking like, it was sick, but I was like, man, no one gets a fuck. It was like, it was a one guitar player band. I said the name before. I won't say it again, but I was like, there's obviously backing tracks. It's one guitar player, and I'm just jealous because they're just standing there. I remember I had a moment I looked around.

I was like, no one goes to fuck. But, you know, who am I to say? And that's just me being a hater. You know, maybe I'm just jealous that they could have backing tracks and stand there. And I had to head bang and make a sound a certain way and look a certain way. and you paid less money. So it's hard to say, man. It's a really hard question to answer

because you're on a really fine line between being a hater. So personally, I'll tell you right now, I really don't have an answer for that. That's really tough. Because I'm constantly meeting people that, you know, need the laptop or they're using MIDI

with their quality work. And that's their, but that's their sound. So it's really tough. Like, I remember I asked someone to be on the podcast to play guitar. It was a well-respected guy. Oh, but I can't because everything's in the quad MIDI. And I can't play the wrist because I didn't need MIDI to switch it over. So I was, okay, oh, dude, it's fine.

But I remember thinking, oh, shit. like he but he can play it though so it's so the laptop game now is different and this i'm realizing this the past uh that was probably six months ago where i asked him so cheating i i don't know i don't know people have been using backing tracks forever dude ever and then what's too what's too much you know and at the end of the day I think people

pretend they care they just I remember watching I guess since she's so massive I could use her as an example I'm like no one fucking cares but uh it's

super massive singer um how do you say J uh dupe oh fuck do a leapa yeah

yeah you got you You already knew. And I saw a clip of her, it was like a semi-viral where her ears were going out. And she was fixing it. But there is still sound coming out of, like you can still hear. That actually might be it. This is it. I think this is it.

See? This is it. Thanks, Jay. Okay. So her in-ears go out. We can use her as example because she's so massive. and no one fucking cares. For some reason, the world just loves her.

And she could do no wrong. And that's just, you know, people pick and choose who they love. But her ears went out, which happens all the time. If that happened to us or any other metal band, this shit will be. So obviously, there's backing tracks. Obviously, because you stop singing and there's still vocals coming out. Do that happen to anyone else? Like, we'll get shit for it.

So that's a good example. And no one, no one call it out. It's just like a selective rage. But, uh, remember seeing that? I'm like, damn,

no one, like, man, that happened to us? Jesus, dude. So again, but people love her.

And, uh, she has awesome song. So again, is that me or you being a hater? I don't know. I don't know. I guess if people like it,

you know, who am I to say? Something sucks. Because I don't like it. And it's only going to involve. It's only going to involve. I've seen a change again in the last six months. So, yeah, that was kind of a loaded thought.

But, again, Tiny Wash Bear, thank you for your question. And thank you for being a part of our Patreon family. And that's me trying, that's me trying not to rant because I could just go off. Okay. All right, Jay, I really need help with this one. I really need help with this one. Looks like a name. Maybe Salim Raubi?

Salim Raubi, maybe. Oh, that's way better. I apologize. I don't know. Yeah, 9478. That's way better than I would have done. I just saw Salami. Cool.

What's funny, what's really cool about this question is I was just thinking about this. So it's really cool, really cool timing. Garzo, what are, first of all, the way it's the way it's asked is i really appreciate it garza what are the top three deathcore bands right now besides suicide songs so thank you for throwing in there people want to throw shade at me welcome um i do have a top three i uh and i've been thinking about this um over my winter break you know who do i even like in the genre so i do have a personal top three And it goes back and forth for different reasons.

So number one is kind of shared. So I can't really put, I can't put them at one or two. So I'm just going to talk about them both because they're both great for their own reasons, but I have a personal preference. So tie for number one slash number two, I will just go straight into a look. Lorner Shore. They're killing it. Only because Will brought,

he set a new bar as far as what you can even do with your voice and present it in a very cool fashion in a way. So he brought something new to the table, which for this style of music is actually very hard. And people have

gone on to rip him off. Almost almost everybody. So when that happens, especially in the death court scene, I know what that's like. And it's really cool to see him still fucking push through. And he's his own guy,

his own thing. So just for sole purpose of pushing the genre forward and setting a new bar, I mean, I gotta give it up to Lorna. Again, they're not number one or two. It's just a tide. Me personal preference,

in my spare time, I'm jamming Slaughter to prevail. I know people are kind of saying you're not death core anymore. They're a death core band. I also heard Lorna say they're an extreme metal band. I could talk about this because I've done it.

Oh, we're not a death core band. We're fucking metal band. I've done this before. So I understand where they're coming from. But, dude, you're both death core bands, straight up. The reason why I picked Slaughter is because Alex Terrible is, in my opinion

he is the embodiment from the music to the look to a way of living he is the embodiment of to me what death core is death core to me has always been a very dark genre and it's kind of turned into

not not for worse but it's just kind of turned into like this I don't know I just say PC kind of genre death core has always been like an extremely dark genre like those riffs have that's my childhood trauma

like that's just like that's not it's not a pretty genre and then Mitch is thrown this fucking dark real lyrics from his childhood so it's always kind of been this way but uh Alex really embodies it

as far as like okay he has a look um I get the also that's quarter of me has always been very primal a very primal uh style of music. So when I watch him, like, just by the way he moves and rocks out and sings,

I could kind of tell that the voice is coming from somewhere else without me trying to be spiritual. Yes, he has very opinionated. He has very strong opinions. Does not care what anybody thinks. And that's, again, that just embodies what death court always stood for

in my personal opinion. And you know, I'll be jamming them in my spirit time. So again, personal preference. They're both tied from one and two. They're both to me like just no band is bigger than the other. They're just fucking both killing it.

It's awesome. Obviously, I got to be biased. Number three, which is why, you know, I appreciate it how the question is, is asked so I'm not going to say me

or SS but as far as if I'm going to listen to Death Corps and my personal favorite singer as far as I'm going to listen to something for pleasure and this is the voice I want answering my body I go with Whitechaple

it's funny like when they were on the podcast I told them like you know I didn't listen to these records until like right now and I remember going back in their records, I'm like, this is sick shit. Why was I not jamming this when I first came out? So yeah, pretty fucking sick as far as like pleasure. Like, I like how Phil's voice sounds as far as like what I want to hear. If I'm, if I'm going out for a walk or the gym, okay, I'm going on Whitechapel. This is, I want to hear this.

But that's his personal preference. And obviously they're OGs. and people are really jamming that that new record which is awesome so they're kind of setting new rules as well but again the old competitive side is going to come out and

I'll let them have their time but if the band doesn't break up suicide silence I'm definitely in a very dimet space and I'm ready to fucking kill him and really put an end to this comparison that's just me being competitive Which also is that's what deathcore is. It was what it always was. I remember a quick, quick sidebar. I was thinking about like, I came up in a very competitive scene. It was just, the bands were all sick.

And we're very lucky to have broken out of the Inland Empire corona scene. How? I don't know. what worked for me what worked for us was being competitive I remember like I was asking this was right before I think this was right after either right before

or after the EP dropped and I was trying to get a drummer in another band to play for us and this was on AOL and he was chatting

when he was a great drummer shout out to you at John Shelley I remember typing on my aim on my computer on my parents' computer like a fucking loser like your band sucks you used to join suicide silence even if I ultimately think that or felt that

it was just my competitive like well it turns out when he was typing that his whole band was there so his whole band saw it and I remember like going to shows and they're like Garza like well I remember back then I felt kind of bad but I also didn't I don't know it was his kind of

It was just a really cool competitive time. There's so many bands, sick bands, way better than me. Way better than suicide, but it was that kind of competitive edge. And I'm really getting that fucking deep, that deep thing back. But yeah, anyway, that's a quick sidebar. Again, Whitechapel for a pleasure. What was that record called? It was marked a blade.

I think that was like the one I was jamming on a heavy. rotation when it came out. Yeah, yeah, it was this one. What's the track listing real quick? It was, what was the one I was jamming? I forgot. It might be bring me home.

I think it's like a ballad, no, some, it's like a slower song. Yeah, I think I was just jamming this. Actually, go to their discography, actually. I really want to make sure because I want people to jam the song. I really want people to hear it. Oh, maybe it's, uh,

our endless war. Try, try that one. Yes, I was wrong. It's this one. I was shaming. Let me burn a lot. When I was living in Riverside with my friend David, I was going these long walks down, uh, Indiana, and I'll go down, uh, the street called Pierce. It was a really long way down,

but it was down. He was really nice. It was like this like a river, down there. I was just jamming this record a lot. And that song was on repeat. Really cool. She has shout out to that record and that song. But I'm back.

I'm ready to fuck them up. But people don't like when I talk like that, but I really don't give a fuck. And in the day, it's all about what makes the music the best. Yeah, top three. So, slaughtered to veil,

Florida Shore Wired Chapel Those are my personal Top three I do feel a little bit bad Not throwing in It's impossible to fit a top three It is

I feel bad not throwing in Any like the Upbecoming bands I guess But Maybe you're not competitive enough Yeah but those three bands Are just fucking killing it Check them all out

Check them all out Also white chapel is consistent Which I like You can't really fuck with Phil How does that voice come out of that little guy Holy shit Even looking at a list I'm pretty satisfied with my top three

I can't throw in suicide sounds I'm just a dick You know I gotta do it but sometimes you do. Oh shit, man. If it wasn't, I would go Lorner Shore,

large to be a veil, see what that sounds. All right, close the door on that one. Let's, uh, thank you for that question. It was weird. I was just thinking about that to you.

I'm like, who is my top three? Who would have, and why? I was just thinking about that. That was cool. Right, number three. Uh, I, I think I got this one.

Dale Healy Dale Healy 3362 What is your favorite slash least favorite part of the podcast? I've been waiting for this question to pop up for a long time So I saw it was like oh finally someone asked So thank you for that

Favorite part is this This is the easy part Hanging out chatting in person if you don't know, I got to say it. We're the only in-person podcast every week. I don't throw in Zooms. I don't do bi-weekly. It's every week in-person.

I do have this obsession without going too far into it. I have an obsession with in-person conversations. I don't know. I think with where social media is going, especially AI, I think I've become obsessed with. with hanging out with people in person. I'll drive anywhere. I don't care.

I'll fly. I'll just hang out with someone in person. Just having that like. And then also putting something out there that's in person is really, it's really important to me. So just hanging out with bands, young bands, the OGs, these solos. I learned a lot about myself. I'm constantly experimenting when I do these solos, you know, what's going to come out of my brain. you know, what's this going to lead to?

I'm always like, worse this is going to lead to for better or for worse. So that's, that's the no-brainer. Like, that's my favorite part, hanging out.

You know, do we hung out with Chris Pondon? You hung out with Paul Masters. All we hung out. This legends, dude. And jamming. Legends.

The least favorite part has been, um, I really, personally speaking, I really sacrificed Just just the relationships since it's been so consistent for all you because this is how I consume podcast. I put on my favorite podcasts every week. That's just like I wanted the same things.

Cool. I'm personally in my, in my heart, I'm in, when it comes down to it, I'm an entertainer. I like to entertain people because I like doing, I like doing things that I consume. So I just like doing, I like doing. what I'm, I like doing what I'm doing, if that makes any sense. You know, I love that consistent when I type my favorite podcast or my favorite hosts. I'm like, damn, every week or even twice a week. These fucking, these guys are crazy.

Unfortunately, what has happened and which I had to regroup, which also ties into my hiatus with the band and cleaning and trying to create time and manage time. I really haven't built upon the relationships, all these people I met, legends and friends, and it's even hard to text people back. So that's been my least favorite part is not building relationships with all the people that I met.

That's been the worst part, I think. because next week just flies by and we're already on to I'm already listening to the next band I'm already listening to the next guest and um a goal for uh uh 2026 is to really manage my time in the way where I could uh just go out more for pleasure not for it's always like I'm always doing something for the pod or the band where I think this year really focus on the human relationships as much as I focus on the human interactions that makes any sense. But that's by far my least favorite part is, and it's not building on, on friendships. Also, when we get older in general, it's just, you just lose, you just lose like the, oh, no, man, you just lose like the, how do you say, like the, you just lose connection with, was some people.

They're growing up, they're living their own lives. A lot of people get married, have kids, or they're working full-time to pay rent. You're doing your own thing, and it's really hard to get schedules to line up, and you really have to make it happen. So I've learned that this past year as well. So, yeah, that's my least favorite part.

The goal this year is to manage my personal time, to have more time to hang out with these people that I met. The only consistent thing I do is literally I have, no matter how busy, I have a date with my lady once a week. So I see her once a week. Because we don't live with each other yet.

So I make sure I see her because that's the top priority. And that just, it manifests into other ways to not building on relationships. So, and that's my least spirit part. Cool. I appreciate the question. Oh, hey, Jay, what's your least favorite part of the podcast?

Let's see. The work part? Yeah, I probably just, yeah, it's a little slog, you know, just to edit the work part, you know, of course. I wish it could just be done, you know? Of course. We do, we all wish. Yeah, yeah. How can everything just be done? We just do the fun part.

Yeah. yeah but I think the worst part is like when it's over and then they just leave and it's like oh fuck well damn I wish we could hang out or you know or something dude totally yeah that's a that's a good point

sometimes we're in our own space we're like okay let's like stop hanging out because we got to work right when they leave so I think a goal is to probably stop doing that I think yeah it is weird when they like leave like you kind of feel like the energy leap too.

Yeah. It's all shit, man, we're fucking done hanging out. It's only been like two and a half hours. And they're gone. That just kind of suck. It's like a little like bittersweetness type of feel. Yeah, that's true. But then you get to work and it's like, all right.

And then you release it to the world and it's fun and you see the response. Yeah. So yeah. I guess, yeah, when it's over, this is my least favorite part. Damn, yeah. Yeah. Same. I never realized that.

because yeah you know what that just hit me too i i should stop doing that like the next post starts right when they leave and i do have that mindset i don't think it's healthy i need to kind of maybe sit in the moment more you got to let the freedom wash over yeah yeah man yeah um that ties into what we're talking about earlier just you know having everything in order so we don't have to worry about stuff just having shouldn't order scheduled. You got a schedule hanging out. You got a schedule it.

It's crazy. I'm going to get better at that this year. For sure. All right, Dale, thank you, man. The work part. The work part sucks, too. It does. Just be straight up.

Straight up. Well, next. Another question from Salammer. Salammer Ruby. Salammer Ruby. Question number two. I thought this was cool. Garza, do you believe in God?

If yes, any group or denomination. Is that what that says, Jay? Yeah. Or just a plain believer. This happened a couple of times where someone asked me if I'm religious and I said no. And then the conversation stopped. I was so okay I was oh that was

interesting but uh yeah try not to go on a rant I do believe in God I'm currently not religious uh quick sidebar I that's why I don't judge

people for being ignorant for anything because we're all living our lives in our own pace we're all in our own pace and me personally I tackle subjects very blocked. Like,

I remember one time in my life I was reading books about food and that's it. That's all I did. Then I went, okay, now I'm reading books about exercise. Now it's a block time.

That's a, it's a block. It's back to back, the back to back with books. Okay, now I'm in a self-help. I'm an idiot. How do I fucking become a decent person?

Okay, now I'm in a block when I'm reading Tony Robbins, all these self-help books, which are just endless. That's an endless subject and I did get kind of sucked into it now that I think about it. that was a block of time

and I got into how do you say J? autobiographies? Yeah. Okay, yeah, just then sort of reading about guitar players I like or just artists.

Now it's like a block. These fat fucking books. Which one of them I brought up to Buzz Osborne and he said it wasn't real. So that just kind of, that just fucked me up. Shit, I read all this

and is it even real? Fuck. So I got a, so it's a block. time it's all about guitar players all about artists writing songs and their childhood and where they came from and um and then uh i got into a block where i'm reading about sales or marketing those there's five books boom that's a block of time so uh i see in my near future blocks of time will be um religion and there's probably be a time where i'm going to dive into that and then uh a scary time will

probably get into politics and stuff. I'll get in that fucking subject. And, uh, but right now in my 40s, uh, I believe in God for, I mean, definitely by, when I was thinking about it, um, I want to say late 20s, I was thinking about it. So yeah, yeah, I believe there's like a higher power. There's, uh, I remember the first time I prayed. Like, I think I, I, talk to Ernie about it here. I remember the first time praying at my friend David's house

when I was living with him. That was late 20s. And without getting too spiritual there, I was like, I felt something. I felt like, okay, there was like a power and letting go. And I remember my

body shaking. I remember that. I was like, oh, it was like a presence. just letting go um so i i believe in god it's it's kind of hard to believe in not believe it given um like riffs you know i i touched i touched about like the god and rift uh thing a few times here so you know where where that rift come from i can't take credit for that like where does spell out of the sky like just or channeling something i it's really hard to take credit for that and uh or some things working out some things uh i believe in guardian angels um like you know what like there was like a few times it was two two thoughts pop into my brain one

i talked about um the accident in december with paul where i felt like i wasn't driving anymore i felt like something else took control of the car and everything was fine. I remember, uh, well, shit, now I think about it. What was this late 20s?

I was driving home to San Diego. I saw my cousin's band play a bar. And when driving home, I was, one of the most dangerous things you can do is driving when you're tired. And you're nodding off. It says so fucking dangerous. Uh,

and I'll be guilty. I still do it. I'm like, I'm gonna, I slept here a lot more times. It's like because I know like, oh, I'd rather sleep on a floor. Be safe and dry right now. I know I can't drive right now.

I won't make it. Coming home from shows, I pulled off the freeway quite a few times and I slept and I'll find like a neighborhood. And I'll sleep there until the morning. I'm not going to make it. Very dangerous. But remember like it was right where the 91 hits to 15 and if you're from California, I'm going to Riverside. I'm almost home.

I've been on a freeway for hour 15. Almost home. Home stretch. Hit it hitting a 15. But at the time, it was like this, the way it goes right. It's, it's a, it's a hill. It's a hill that goes down into the freeway. And that was right when the moment I was nodding off.

And I went over. Yeah, it was good. it's at same height and um and I got off I went off the freeway and uh the way my car

the way my hands were on the wheel controlling me driving off the freeway over this hill like it just felt like it felt like I wasn't driving anymore it kind of felt like someone kind of came in and it's like okay

and then um Yeah, like right around there. And luckily there's no cars behind me. It was late. It was, I want to, it was like 1 to 2 a.m. around there. So luckily there's no cars around that time. I remember we driving off the freeway.

And all I, all that this dust came up because it was dirt. I remember something else, I felt like when I was holding on the wheel, like something else was like, I'm not, I can't control my car. Something is like

taking control, of my hands. So stuff like that happens. I think we all kind of experience some like with ghosts or kind of help. So I can't help but not believe in God. So that's where I'm at currently. But again, again with the songwriting and this. I believe in God because of this.

Like I don't know if I should get into it right now. we're already 50 minutes in fuck see it's what happened I just I'm like you know what I'm gonna make this an hour I'm gonna make this an hour go in and out and then it always happens at the question start and then we just going to rant fuck I don't know this I'll I'll touch on it

um I mean every failure I personally have and weakness I had as a child has given me a career, which is strange. It's very strange. Like, growing up with, like, a speech impediment.

And, uh, it's my whole life I was, uh, yeah, mute. I mean, if, yeah, if anyone wanted to do some thinking on me, try to find some dirt, like, try to talk to people that knew me when I was in elementary, junior high and high school,

even after. I was always, always mute, but that made me a listener. So what I thought was, my whole life I thought was like crippling me. I'm like, why I mean, why can I just talk like other people? It built my listening muscle and made me very observing, which is now like my strength in this. So it's like just so weird to like things that I hated by myself as a kid is now like, it gave me

guitar it gave me this it was like a weird like so stuff like that's just me touching upon it I think if I open up that kind of warms right now it'll be a long long rant

but uh I can't help it dude that's those little like connecting like the dots that's why I believe in God what about you Jay where you at with God

I mean, how can you know? I guess, I would say, I would say, I mean, I definitely pray to God, you know, when times are tough or when I need a little... A little boost? Yeah, a little guidance, but I wouldn't say I pray to, you know, the Christian God or any kind of religious God, just kind of... Yeah. I just kind of speak with the soul out. Yeah. Try to see if I can find some kind of tether. It'll pull me out, pull me up, pull me through.

Yeah. But, you know, my logical, I try to just use my logical thinking. And it usually leads me to stray away from, like, conventional religion, kind of traditional. Totally. you know that kind of stuff so maybe uh yeah maybe i believe in my own version of god in short you know that's sick man yeah yes we are similar in that in that aspect it's cool well sick thank you uh for that deep question man pretty cool i think we have uh two more oh i got this one um ryan flavors 3685 is

is the metal genre dying due to added cost of tour with a lot of band members? Yeah, it's a tough one, man. It's a, the, the cut, I mean, everything is going up, you know, it's all, so when you're in a position where,

um, if you're following your art, it's already tough. And it's just kind of one of those things we're like, oh, well, I'm not surprised. Everything is going up and you're making less. So it's this weird thing that's happening. I mean, just transportation. The same thing is now more expensive.

I remember when we were first torn in a bus, we're like, holy shit, we're in a fucking bus. This is fucking crazy. And I was like, okay, that's a month. you're looking at uh it's where I was just looking at the statement last week when I was cleaning up the fucking my my computer I was cleaning up all of the documents

I have and contracts uh it's funny that we're talking about this now but uh a bus was like okay a month 35 grand with the with the rental of the actual fucking thing

with the driver their hotel um fuel that fucking missile, you're gonna spend like, you know, 35 grand. This, if you're going toward 35 grand, it's gone. Bye-bye. But now they have these things called bandwagon,

which is basically a combination of a bus and a van. Which is very common. They're everywhere. Those have become like, the price of those is going up and up. And it's basically the price. the price of a bus. We pay for a bus

back in a day. It's like, damn, so we're, so we're down, no, no hate on bandwagon at all. But it's like,

what, but as far as like when you're, uh, trying to make money on the road and you're spending thousands and thousands of dollars, those shit, I'm spending the same amount of money now, getting paid less,

and now I'm not in a bus anymore. Now we're, paying for this. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying this is what's happening. So, uh, yeah, it's funny. I was just looking at the, uh, invoice of a bandwagon. Yeah, it was like, think like 30, like 30 days, 29 days or something like that.

I was like, yeah, it was like $33,000. I was like, fuck, man. Like you, it's the same. So, so, so we downgraded, but we're paying the same. So that's kind of what's happening. and uh yeah everything is going up uh t-shirts there's a plain black t-shirt i mean the cost of just a shirt alone that's going up um i guess it's a weird it's it's strange and i really haven't heard a guy in a band talk about it which is funny um the more money that comes in it always seems like the more

expenses go out. I don't know how this always happens on every fucking tour that we do. It's like the more money. Oh shit. That's why it's why I never get excited about merch numbers. Hey, we made, I don't know, like let's say a big night. Oh, you made like, do we mean like seven grand tonight? I never get excited about it. Because I just know like, okay, how much merch did we just order? I'm already anticipating one, the merch bill and the percentage everybody gets. and then splitting that five ways and then being taxed. So it's really hard

if you're making to get excited about a good merch or not. Even now I really appreciate it and when you buy our merch, it does help. But the more money is made is the more expenses you have and the more

the more you got to split in the end. So it's a slow, slow, it's a slow, slow build of making money if I could even call it making money so if I'm in this position

um it's so funny when I when I see when I see people try to talk about expenses I'm like no one knows I try to talk about it and even people say that I'm full of shit

I'm like what like I'm the one getting paid I know where the money is going I know where it's not going is it's not going to me so so people assume that if I'm in suicide silence I'm supposedly making all this money on tour it is a big money maker it all it also is a big money pit

it's just touring is this um money pit it's like taking money and throw it in the fucking trash like if we leave we're just talking about about the transportation uh with the buses and the bandwagons and uh what i mean low end let's just go low like fucking 30 that's so that's

conservative that's something conservative that's just dumb it's 35 grand gone let's just say 35 and then the merch bill i mean just leaving the fucking driveway dude pat all right we're fucking packed up we're horned up we're fucking we're probably fucking each other at this we're so horned up and we leave. I'm like, wow. I mean, we're talking at least 40 grand in debt. Just leaving the fucking driveway. And I'll like to say we're, you know, above average metal band is 40 grand gone.

You're in debt 40 grand. So we're going, I always think it's like, if we're going through this, like, what are other bands going through? Like, holy shit. And then it also takes money, which, what's, this is, I think the main thing that sucks for suicide sounds. is younger bands coming up make more money than us because to maintain a band name the expenses evolved it's just money just disappears

it seems like where it seems like I keep hearing about these young bands coming up and they're coming home like paying the rent and doing great which is fucking sick because they don't have any expenses like they're torn in the band it's just them and I wish when I told a story already like quick

A quick sidebar I'm gonna do a 45 second sidebar The first time we got a bus For that Mayhem tour Man I wish we went right back to a van Because then we just got addicted to it I just That was so much money

Just thrown it away And that's my dumb fault That's our fault And I heard about It's funny I heard about August Brent's Red I don't know if I should talk about this But I kept hearing

they're still touring a band they were holding out and I was like man I look back I should have did that that's just that's just money in your pocket but you have to maintain once you kind of cross over it I Sousa Sons is such a weird spot where it's like it's like right above

that line so you have to spend money to maintain the name to keep it there so it's this really shitty spot ruin but uh but if you're a young band you could be smart with your expenses

but the transportation just sucks dude and then who are you paying everybody wants to raise which basically means you get paid less because you want everyone to be happy

but but in the end also in the end also fuck me who cares you know we get we we get to play music and there's always gonna be there's always be bands that don't make that sacrifice So it sucks, but also we're lucky at the same time to still be doing it.

Where's your preferred bunk? Right there. You got it already. This one? Yeah. Pure laziness. My theory was also, if you're hammered, you could just roll in there. It was like that on the bus too.

That middle right, middle right first row, boom, me just roll in there. Easy. also if anything happens it's easy to roll out of which I've done there's a time where it felt like the bandwagon was fucking rolling over and I was able to hop out quick

like a fucking like Batman or something and then I smashed my shoulder on that table I think the one we got the hydrox was like fucked up or something but I love that that middle right.

But at the same time, I don't miss it. I do not miss that. Oh my gosh. I guess that to learn from me. Someone in your band has to be focused and smart. I really pay attention to your money because I wasn't for a long time.

So good luck with that. I think I'm time for one more. Woo! All right. Jay, I need your help with the first word. I've never seen this word. What? Pelanol?

Maybe it's made up. I guess all words are made up, really. Pelanol, white streak, probably. Period. Nice. Quick question. Again, thank you for your question. Quick question.

How do you find the inspiration to continue to write music after being a musician for so long? Do you ever get, do you ever get writer's block? This is a question that I think I'm going to continue. to bring up because people forget. When I say people forget, I forget as well. So I'm going to, I've answered this before, but I picked it just to remind people and remind myself. So this is a combination of answering your question,

but also me being selfish at the same time. Because you forget, this is probably getting a question. I keep bringing up, uh, just to remind people. One, uh, continue. How do you find inspiration to continue to write music after being a musician for so long? um

currently which uh I'm in a really weird spot right now which is I guess the perfect time to answer this just uh fuck just I've been going into my own body and just ripping out any bullshit that I can find

that that cloud it's funny because again when we get older or anything life just life would just I think we could all relate life would just cloud things. You'll cloud your reason why you do something in the first place and you forget. I'm just guilty of it. Like, I forget, I forget why I do the podcast. I forget why I play guitar. I forget.

Um, so just undoing that cloud and then, okay, I guess the question is how do you undo the cloud? Um, life would just get in the way, whether it's work or, um, um, again, we're talking earlier. This is, this is why I'm, I'm connecting both. And, um, and your fucking room's a mess. Your, your life's a fucking mess. Um,

you got 900 emails. I don't know, or your, your, your text are a mess. It's, um, what I found is this, unclutter anything that I, I,

I could unclutter, you know, I like having a clean room. I like having a clean car. Um, and then I would start to do things that I did when I was a kid that seems to

work for me currently is what did I listen to again like those listening to music you did when you were what got you into the instrument I was hammered it I'm going to hammer this shit now I'm going to answer the same fucking question probably

six months from now six years from now it's just listening to those old records or those old songs it's just Just it awakens something. I don't know what it is. It just, listen to your favorite band when you were a kid.

Just awakens something. And, um, especially so much new music coming out. Uh, so much social media just being thrown at you. That kind of adds to the cloud. So you really have to balance that. Um, I was talking before.

Throwing on that first. throwing on it thrown on it thrown on it thrown on the first corn and it's like oh yeah this oh yeah i forgot i forgot why i play guitar oh yeah then then i hear blind and i hear me to and clown i'm like oh shit oh yeah yeah yeah okay duh it's it's funny how it's just funny how we're wired man like we're just like it's just our common sense just goes out the window It's just so. And then we overcomplicate things. It's just, it happens to me all the time.

Trust me. It's why I'm going to continue to answer this question. It happens to me all the time. I'll stop listening to records or to involve of work. And then you just, you just forget. And your brain just wants to complicate things. And sometimes the solution is really simple, especially with something as inspiration.

like it is very I found that making my life simple will get me inspired um again clean clean up your fucking phone clean up the studio was now now it's clean I have if I want to do something I have access to the pedal I want at that moment right that moment is boom okay I'm not looking for it I'm like okay I got to drive back home to get it so everything is just where it needs to be so it gives me room to look for inspiration. But yeah, I guess off the top of my head, boom, just listen to those old records, those old EP's, those old songs. As a good older, I say that a lot, huh?

I'll work on not saying that as much, but it just reminds you. And the meaning definitely evolves too. For me, it's obviously guitar. It was like, oh, shit, that tone is something, there's something about it. And then sometimes, like you play, and then also playing songs I used to play to or jam, jam two. And that always awakens something. And also, sometimes I did this, I did this yesterday, actually. I was playing onto the song and it just wasn't there.

The heart is just, sometimes it's not there. And that's fine too. I'll shamming along to a soulfly and just wasn't there. And that happens as well. And then we talked about hobbies and stuff and just going outside, trying to mix it up. I got into rock climbing with my girlfriend. That was pretty cool going out being social. Again, I'm working on currently.

So I'm telling you this as I'm working on it. going out talking to people face to face going out there getting nervous getting feeling that anxiety it's good for you it's kind of switching things up I found and what was the second part

okay do you ever get rid of block so yeah again it ties in trying especially talking about God earlier I'm trying not to get too spiritual about it but sometimes it's just not there

sometimes it's just not fucking there but a mistake I made and hopefully this helps you sometimes it's there and I'm currently going through it where sometimes it's there

something's trying to come out but you don't have the time so doing things to a manager time which I might wrap up later on in the pod trying to just fix your

life and shit so you can sit down in this play and uh so that's the other problem uh so that is learn learn from me just uh if something is trying to come out

you need to be in a position in your life to where you could sit down and this fucking get it out and I'm currently like something's coming out and I'm not sitting down and dealing it so that's hopefully that's something however that sounds that inspires you or not uh that's uh that's currently what i'm seeing

and finding out so again thank you for your question um palanial my straight the name how do you i don't get i don't get i don't get the names cool i think that that that's it for the questions um i think that worked just go into questions as quick because uh i I go into these sidebars and rants and let's see what the leather journal says. We've covered everything. I did a this might be hot. It might be shot.

Something me and Jay came up with. I wrote a riff. I mean, because shit's, I'm the wrong person to talk to you about like anything going on in a planet because I believe that shit's always fucked up. um

so today i came in you know what speaking of sitting down and playing i just fucking sat down and you know what let a riff come out on me this what you know what's trying to come out um so i came up with a little riff um it might be a cool way to uh

close it out um to be hot could be shot it's not gonna be a fucking breakdown or some crazy heavy thing i just kind of sat down um Just started rocking more emotion based so it could be hot, it could be shot, can spy you. Again, I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit too into where do things go and I'm willing to suck in public. Let's get the shimmer going. Turn up this shimmer and let's see what, uh, see what comes out.

So this, this kind of flew out today. Yep, there it is. What was it? There it is. I kind of wrote that today. And I was, I kind of, I kind of made it like heavy.

It was kind of heavy. Let's see. Again, it might, it might be hot, it might be shot. But we're just going to figure it out. That's kind of hot. And that's turned on.

I was okay, I was playing clean first, and that kind of flew out. I had the octave earlier. Um, and then I was like, you know, what, what if I, what if I turned on? And then, hot, hotter shot. And then I was kind of. What, what was I doing? It was kind of like, oh yeah, I was, I was, I was doing a speed pick.

It's all coming to me. It was a, harder shot. Something I was just rocking on that was totally freestyle. I was kind of hoping it would, uh, I would, uh, remember it when I started playing and I kind of did. So that's what flew out. For me, when I started playing, it's either, it kind of just flies out. If I sit there and the first or second thing I play,

that's usually what I'm going to be doing, like the rest of the time I'm sitting down. And rarely it comes out later where I'm jamming. Oh, shit, and there's, I literally sat down and it's, It's a little bit more on the emotional side. Hopefully it was hot. I don't know. It felt cool. It could go anywhere.

I was really thinking like, I can make a stereo. I could put bass on it. I wonder what the drums would do. But yeah, I might fuck around with it. All right, just do a quick closer. I have my temple. I'm not being paid for this. I have my temple.

audio board here. I finally again with cleaning, I finally they have these pretty cool clamps like those little clamps for for the pedals so I don't know if you can see this we'll take a picture and put it on the screen but this so this is usually

on the board my Blind Laboratories Cathedral one of my favorite fucking pedals right now. This thing is actually on my board and I took it out because I put in the pitch four for the clean parts so you guys could all get horned up given the rip that came out earlier but uh it's pretty fucking sick it's these these little fucking

how would you say this the adhesive is fucking strong so i have my quad cortex clamped in there my zool and this and it's on there it's like damn i didn't realize and you get this very simple he's unscrew it and then uh put it on it kind of locks in somehow and then you screw it back on and i was like damn this is literally i could fucking go i could go to airport right now and play and play a show i wish i had access to this when i was a kid man this is like literally this is you all i'll say this a million times you all have access to this it's fucking crazy so it's nice to have a clean board which again helps me uh with being inspired I don't, I don't gonna do anything.

It's turning on, boom. Everything in here is turns on with one switch. The lights, everything's a switch. This is the same. Turn on the power switch. The quad is fucking lights on. The pedals light on. I was like, oh, man, this is like.

But whatever adhesive temple uses, I don't, I don't know, man. It's fucking, it's locked in there. And, uh, I did the test at NAM. I put this. in the case, I carried it. I'm sorry, this is going to be the test. I'm walking around. I'm walking around.

We'll see what happens when I fucking open up that case to fucking plug in to a burn knuckle. And it's so, it's so easy. It's all there. It's locked in. And it was very cool just to plug in. And then, oh, shit. Good old temple. again I'm not getting paid for this

it's just an awesome board probably going to experiment with uh because I got like the small ones like you only fit like two pedals on there and the kawai which I squeezed on there but uh

I might get a bigger one maybe throwing a couple more fucking horned up pedals but yeah shout out to you with temple audio it's really nice to really helps it's helped me to stay so organized

the way the pedals just lock in like that and you want to get off you just unscrew the back like so really cool man I was really sketched out again on the on the sticky part

you know I'm like this gonna fucking fly off I'm walking around a nam I probably walked like I don't know I parked fucking far um so I was just carrying it across the street

uh into the convention center I'm well, let's see how this holds up. I did. Easy pieces. It's not to have all my tone. It was a trip to have my whole rig. I have all,

I had my whole tone in two hands. I had a guitar. I had a fender semistry in one hand and a quadx and a temple board in the other. And I was like, this is, this is the same setup

I will take to a fucking theater. It's the same thing. It's the same fucking thing. It's the same thing that I use for writing. It's, it is unbelievable. man. It is unbelievable.

But anyway, I think I played a riff a good first solo back for the year. First solo back. I expected it to be a lot worse. So, pretty sick.

Let's see, what have coming up? Check out suicide sounds on tour now with Slaughter to prevail. um they're on tour right now on doing something um I'm trying to think what I said earlier that did I give any hints

who's being in the potter later I might know huh maybe a quad mini quite many yeah there there's a I did give away something if you're going to use your brain if you look you know who's going to be the next two guests um so again yeah thank you for listening watching think if you've been patient with me again spec these once a

month. I learned from last year. I got to check in a little bit more. I got to connect a little bit more. We got to connect with ourselves a little bit more. Shout out to everyone I met

at NAM. I met a lot of people. Pretty fucking sick. 95% plus people mentioned the podcast. It was all about the pod. Not many people brought up the band which is fine I appreciate you all watching

listening but uh and thank you for everyone that asked the question thank you for a Patreon member that ask a question oh that's what I want to say something what am I going to say? Boom it hit me um

so I understand that people are struggling with money um Some people just don't have it. Um, so I get it. So I had, I had the $5 tier of the Patreon locked.

But I just realized with the times you're in, it's just, $10 for some people, it's just too much. So I'm going to unlock the $5 tier for our Patreon. I understand that, uh, some of us are struggling more to others. And I totally understand that. Dude, I just noticed, dude, I just noticed, dude, like the price we're talking about t-shirts earlier like the price of some bands t-shirts went up the past

I want to say three months it happened I know a lot of people were holding on that $25 shirt 30 bucks we were one of them and I looked on the SS merch and yeah 35 bucks other podcasters 35 bucks maldi it's a lot of people made crossover were the new standard for a shirt is 35 bucks I'm like damn this is a lot of people were holding on for that for that $25 shirt um I went on the Ovon's website I remember just six months ago it was 25 bucks and now you go on and he's like he's holding on to $32 I think he's the

least expensive one but everyone else is 35 bucks bands 35 bucks so I get it um I think we might be in like a transition period with with money and how cost they're really fluctuating and so well. Yeah, I get it. So I'm going to open up the $5 tier to our Patreon so people have access to asking questions. I'm on there every day. I'm on a Discord. I'm kind of answering DMs. I'll have to be accessible, but not too accessible.

That makes any sense. But anyway. Let's see. Am I doing anything? Nope. Enjoy the podcast. I feel like I'm forgetting something. I feel like I'm forgetting something. Fuck.

I'm, dude, I'm the worst at this. We do have merch coming. We have merch. We have merch. We have a, we may or may not have a domino's t-shirt coming. There's a hot heat shirt coming and an other one. So that's,

I literally confirm. the designs this week. So I'm not exactly sure via time frame but that is on the way. Anyway I try to make this short I might have filled again.

Let's see what else. Any else, Jay? Am I missing something? I'm trying to think. I can't recall anything. Stay horned up. Yep. And I'll see you

as. Every Monday. day. Thanks man. Later.