Garza Podcast - 230 - New Slayer Shows, Max Cavalera & Best Coffee Mug

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

Garza shares his headbanging secrets, Quad Cortex tone tips & much more!SPONSORS: DistroKid - https://distrokid.com00:00 - Soulfly & GWAR Show05:33 - Quad Cortex Mini11:01 - Building a Tone24:...19 - J Update25:34 - Issues with Lyrics31:24 - Headbanging & Neck Pain39:24 - Old School Death Metal Guests43:56 - Best Coffee Mug45:23 - Sic Guitarist: Acoustin254:07 - A Day to Remember57:05 - New MGK & Fred Durst Song1:04:07 - Slayer at the Kia Forum1:04:29 - Max Cavalera Call-Out1:06:56 - Slayer Never “Broke Up”1:10:50 - Upcoming Shows

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Starting point is 00:00:37 And now let's get to the podcast. All right, cool. Are we, uh, we just hop in this? All right, cool. We're going. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Thank you for joining us, as always. I always forgot to do this thing after fucking 230 of them. Um, yeah, we're gonna, a little tease, we're gonna get into some guitar tone. Last time I forgot my whole rig, but I rebuilt my rig. And it's even, um, it's more, uh, more condensed. So, uh, we'll be hopping and enter that soon. Um, probably right after this.
Starting point is 00:01:25 What, what do we do? What do we do? Went to, uh, last time I said, I was going to, uh, uh, last time I said I was going to, the Blasco I did I saw Soulfly A band name I keep seeing around And I finally saw him was King Parrot
Starting point is 00:01:44 Ever to King Parrot J? It's pretty sick I keep seeing that band name around and I finally saw him Pretty cool It got to the show early So they were sick and then Soulfly Went on Blascoe has this really cool upstairs kind of balcony bar so I went there had some athletic as always athletic free wave and
Starting point is 00:02:13 Soulfly kicked into no hope no fear which I mean I'm horned up I mean you couldn't pick a better song and I got really uh my heart began to fill with joy and I ran downstairs I saw I saw a few songs and continued to drink my beer but it was a fucking sick show shout out to John for getting me into the Guar show um it's cool Guar's fucking selling out places
Starting point is 00:02:42 that that podcast with Dirk was fun um really uh happy that he was willing to open up about some stuff kind of a few people got pissed that I brought up Corey
Starting point is 00:02:57 I'm like, why not? It's a really important topic and I think it should be discussed and it was quick too It was like five fucking minutes Really sad man He died really sudden I guess they were having a conversation
Starting point is 00:03:15 The night before Talking about airplane cookies or something Then went to bed on the bus And never woke up And they found out at the border which is insane. I can't even I can't even imagine that.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It's already it's already bad enough when it's when one of your best friends dies and then it's like on the bus at the border and the border sucks. It's a Canadian border.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So it's couldn't be a worst case scenario but it was really cool. Shout out to a Dirk's and also real quick dude shout out to Max, dude. looking good looking good
Starting point is 00:03:59 brother as someone that has been overly chubby and out of shape any kind of weight loss is really impressive and he looked good man proud of you the moment you start losing weight
Starting point is 00:04:17 it becomes easier to headbang which is really important and he was rocking out dude when that first song came on i was like okay if this was luckily it wasn't two months ago because if that song came on and i was at that bar i would have proceeded to waste um united states currency on uh alcohol to put it into my bloodstream at a very rapid unhealthy rate so uh cool Pretty fucking cool
Starting point is 00:04:57 I enjoyed it Went outside had the classic burrito Street burrito Always nice Drove home Again dude It's just scary when you're tired When you're tired
Starting point is 00:05:10 And driving I knew like you know I always know when I'm not gonna make it I was like okay this is teetering I'm exhausted But I know for sure I'm gonna make it You're just like Trying so hard just to focus
Starting point is 00:05:25 this front of a podcast and hopefully just brings you home. But yeah, they got home safe. So what I've been doing lately, I got this, I got this at this point, I mean, a few weeks ago. I got a quad cortex mini. And shout out to everyone at Neurl that watches and supports the podcast, which is why they sent it here. So I've been messing around with it.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I'm just, the first time I saw one was with Keon. I'm sorry. And I'm just in love. I'm just like, I love my girlfriend and I love the quad cortex mini. And it's just, it's the future, man. This is, because Neuro came out with the, I'm sorry, the nano or the nanu? yeah the nanocortex or nanocortex and i was like it just didn't get me horned up and if i'm not horned up i'm not gonna
Starting point is 00:06:33 i'm not even gonna look at it and uh and yeah so i wonder if they if neural learned from that lesson because it like the nano came out and no one was really pumped on it but when the mini came out all right this is what this is what the people want this is what i want And, yeah, I got one. You know, it was cool to see Kian with it. And then when I finally got one in my hand, I was, it's just mind-blowing how easy it is and how quickly you could get a sick guitar tone.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Like, the hardest part about the quad cortex, if you're like me, you're a hater or you're older or you're intimidated or the money. Whatever, like the hardest part about neural DSP stuff is the first one is getting out of the box connecting it to the computer. Do you like the registration? I think when you buy a quad cortex, you get one free plugin. I believe that comes with the actual purchase. So you have plug it in. You get your username going like the password. I sign up for the cortex cloud, the whole thing. Download the tone on the computer, then put it on the actual physical quad cortex. That took me about an hour. That was the most, by far, the most confusing part of this whole process. And then once it was done and I have a tone on the thing, okay, then I, you know, then I went in. Went in, I messed with some knobs. I got a, I had a tone in less than 15 minutes and I really haven't touched it since.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I'm not a joke I I went by ear which that first impression tends to they just it just sticks dude and uh that's what I would end up using live
Starting point is 00:08:38 here writing and here on the podcast and it's also available on our Patreon if if you want it so when I opened up the uh the mini it's like oh I put it on the board I literally turned it on I signed it on
Starting point is 00:08:52 I signed in no i turn it on uh sign into the Wi-Fi signed into my personal account and then I just downloaded my preset and it was right there it was done
Starting point is 00:09:08 less than five minutes I'm already turning on I'm already I'm rocking so and then after that I've been kind of like working my way around okay how do you turn on the tuner how do you uh because there's
Starting point is 00:09:25 there's obviously a few things that are different about it. You know, a couple little differences with the knobs and stuff. But once you're in there, like 15 minutes, you know what you're doing. And I don't know what I'm doing. So I always use myself as a marker of getting things fast. It's the,
Starting point is 00:09:45 it's like I had a, it's like the, I don't know, this is a good analogy or a good comparison, but it was like, it's like an iPhone app. It's like if iPhone came out with the amp with the most with the sickest guitar tone Currently on this rock, that's what this that's what this thing is like it's just There and I messed around with it a little bit. Okay, you know, it's like you know, you know, adding my contacts
Starting point is 00:10:12 Downloading my social media downloading my space app on there, you know and it's like that it's just kind of getting the only way around it a little bit And once I did that I mean I'm I'm all set. I set my scene and that's it. I had a under an hour, I would say. I'm ready to rock. I could take this thing anywhere and it's on my temple audio, which I bought with my own money. They don't sponsor the pod. And yeah, I haven't touched it since. Sounds awesome. Yeah, it sounds sick. So my goal. Just I want to demonstrate for you I just want to show you what I did And I'm gonna do my best
Starting point is 00:11:13 Um Jay there's any dead dead air just kind of So I'm gonna show you How I'm gonna put myself on the spot and try to recreate My first Moment with the uh Quad cortex I'm actually gonna build a tone
Starting point is 00:11:36 in real time So hopefully you enjoy it and hopefully this helps you Because I'm just going to do what I did literally I'm just going to do what I did And hopefully this this helps you And it's I have my whole rig here It's literally it's literally right here All right Okay let's uh
Starting point is 00:12:00 Put it on my lap here And if you're just listening I have my uh I have some glasses on and I can literally see what I'm seeing Okay, so this is mine, my preset. Okay, so I'm going to go into preset. Okay, so we have a blank slate here. Nothing. So, let's see, I'm going to add a row, row three.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Boom. I'm going to add right here. I'm going to add my, I'm going to add an EQ. EQ, boom, EQ. I think I had the, which one I have. Noise gate. Let's see, utility, I believe it's the adaptive gate. Boom.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Amp. Let's get the amp going. I should go to plugins. I think I got Gojira hot, right? Boom, okay. So this should, in theory, and then also what I did. Okay, so in the very, so behind the amp, I split the output. Why?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Once going, as you see, a mic, XLR out is going into the mixer here, or it will go into your chosen interface or live. It goes into, it goes into the PA and that's what you hear. So I'm going to add a out right here Should be 3-4 I'm going to add a cab right here Boom boom Let's see what was the recto I forgot I forgot what I put
Starting point is 00:14:00 This is literally exactly what I did I had no idea what I'm looking at I've done this my whole career I'm just kind of following my gut You know what do I want? Okay standard oversized angle straight I'm gonna go with CA standard oversized straight B 30s 90s that's probably that's exactly what I did show choose the out boom and then
Starting point is 00:14:29 there is so I believe the one two I believe the one two is actually um going into the XLR and the out here will go into your power amp if you want stage sound okay so so I think in theory so in theory I should have sound right I have sound already okay so without me not knowing what that how I'm doing so let's see how it sounds that's my that's not too easy I put a EQ okay so I have sound without knowing what I'm doing this is exactly how this is what happened to me okay now let's do a now let's add some beef okay I think that's what we all want.
Starting point is 00:15:39 We want some beef. Wait, let me take a quick sip of coffee. I'm going to talk about my mug and in the podcast. It's pretty horned up. Quick sip. Holy shit. That's fucking, that's, that's, that's gasoline for your soul. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So now we're going to beef it up. Top row. Let's do, uh, I did a tube screamer. Because it just needs to be, it needs to be hot, you know? I'm saying. And what was it? Was it the modulation? What was the overdrive, right? And I believe it was a green 808. It's either green 808 or it's probably, okay, we're going to go with the green 808. I'm sorry. Where am I? Okay, green way, boom. Okay. Now this is, okay, now this is the secret. Let me show you a secret because I believe
Starting point is 00:16:46 You should give away secrets, but not the process. So here's the secret. Boom. What are we at? We're going to go to pitch, Polly Octaver, and you now know my secret. So we're going to do dry. We're going to turn up. Boom.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And we're going to click sub. So whatever you want to move, just touch it, just like an iPhone. and then adjust the knob I'm gonna do 30% so adds a little bit of sub but it's a I call it a subconscious sub where it's there but you don't really hear it but it adds an unexplainable thing to it okay so we got a two screamer a sub and in the very very front we're not gonna use it but in case you want to I believe is it, I believe it's pitch correction. I fucked up, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Let's see. Pitchifter. Okay, perfect. So this is if you want to change tuning, so I just like having it there. But it's not really gonna do anything. We'll turn it off for now. Okay, so now we should have a little bit more beef. Let's do a quick test.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So now we have the tube screamer, so it should be cranking now. Okay, so a little bit more, right? You see what the two scrimmer kind of adds like that, like, I don't know, that kind of bite, bark bite, you know? All right, so we're... This is why I did. I don't know what I'm doing, but it's work. Okay, now we're going to... Okay, now we're going to really hone in on the sounds.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So let's see what the setting is with the tube screamer. I mean, that's pretty, I mean, just a flat two-screamer, not bad. Let's go to amp. Gain. You know I want my gain up, so we're going to do. We're going to go from noon. I'm going to say 7.5 is where we're at. Base.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I want a lot more base, actually. Let's do, let's do that. Mids are tough. Mids are tough to you because if you do scooped, Sounds good, but you don't want to get lost in the mix. We're going to do like a little bit. Trouble, a little bit up, presence. Again, not know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:19:54 The deaf is also a base, so I kind of want that. I want to add some beef. Okay, so this should be sick. Let's see what the gate looks like. Okay, we're going to put it up a little bit. Boom, boom. EQ, I think my EQ. is let's take a quick look at my EQ real quick we're gonna let's okay saved actually
Starting point is 00:20:24 know what let's just not knowing what not knowing what we're doing let's do a little let's do that nothing crazy just I like a little bit of highs maybe a little bit more lows in here let's do that what's just we're just adding like we're right We're fine tuning that the EQ is not your main tone. It's like let's just add what you want. Okay, so All right, so we should have, I'm gonna save this saved. Now let's see what we got. I have my head my little series so weeks. I could have some fun. That's just get crazy because I'm having fun right now. Yeah, I got my Alpha Wolf pedal here and a fuzz that I added.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So I think that's, I think you pretty much got it. So yeah, that's exactly what I did. I wonder how that's, I guess we won't really know until we put away these fucking glasses, dude. So yeah, that's the, that's it. That's it. We just made a tone. And it's crazy how my whole rig right now I'm carrying it. I'm showing you. This is literally what I'm going to carry to the airport. I'm going to carry to a show. What's going?
Starting point is 00:23:07 I could sleep with this thing. I could put it literally on my bed and it won't take up any room. So lately I've been kind of carrying around my whole rig. And it feels like it feels like I'm forgetting. getting something because there's no way I have everything guitar here amp here and I'm walking around
Starting point is 00:23:29 I'm forgetting something I'm fucking freaking out like where the fuck but I got everything the whole rig is here so hopefully that hopefully that helped you and I'm going to go to my actual boom chug Norris
Starting point is 00:23:48 boom sing all right cool so yeah that's what I've been doing just messing around with the main tone um yeah hopefully that helps you hopefully uh literally that's that's what I did the first time
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'm not really knowing what I'm doing it's kind of moving around knobs following my my gut and you have you have a very usable guitar tone in a matter of minutes how long that take fucking 15 minutes or so Cool
Starting point is 00:24:20 All right Without going on a full-on rant We need an update from Jay The fuck the fuck's going on dude Yeah Chillin Back at it What can we say
Starting point is 00:24:31 It's horned up Yeah it's horned up You've been on any hikes lately Not since the last check-in No Nah been hitting the gym though Oh good It's about it
Starting point is 00:24:40 It's jamming it Jacking it Yeah Yeah It's fucking Editing these bitches Yeah, last one was a BP one. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Jay Weinberg was fucking two hours, 40 minutes. Oh, yeah. Of just straight drummer. Just a drummer. It was like the Joe Dirt story, the journey. Oh, yeah. Two hours. I love hearing about the journeys, man.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It's cool. Well, without wasting any time, let's maybe hop into two questions since we're already I always trying to make these things quick and I always fail but I'm going to really lean in okay so
Starting point is 00:25:26 this is from our actual our Patreon and Discord Jake can you help me pronounce the name Crows Crows okay nice As a guitar player Do you care much about What your singer's lyrics are about
Starting point is 00:25:44 As you've grown older has that changed at all? Has there ever been lyrics you had an issue with? Okay, so no, because I've always been hands off of lyrics. I've always trusted Mitch. That's his job. My job's at rifts. It's really hard to have an issue with them when,
Starting point is 00:26:10 oh, yeah, what was I thinking? I mean, when you're talking about, like, where is your guy? God, I never questioned it. Or, uh, no pity for a coward. Uh, on the pull the trigger bitch. You know, like, I guess, I don't know. There is, there's a lot of ignorance there, for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Like, I don't know. I always trusted them. I always trusted like the lyrics. Um, never had an issue Eddie the same. Like, you know, you, you take the rain. Uh, I might talk about something people don't like, but it's just a fact. Um, if you don't believe me, go to a show or just catch yourself when you're listening to songs. But, uh, a lot of times you, you might sing lyrics and might not even know the lyrics, the right lyrics, or might not know what they're about.
Starting point is 00:27:05 It's so, to me, I'm like, what is that? Um, like, it doesn't really matter what the song's about. It's like this. It's more, it's more about, like, the melody. Like, like a certain pattern. And, uh, and, uh, and you'll, like, it doesn't really matter what the song's about it's like this. It's more, it's more about like the melody. see behind the scenes of how singers will do it, they'll write the pattern first. And then they'll literally throw lyrics on top of it. And obviously some songs, you know, some have a deeper meaning,
Starting point is 00:27:33 but some really don't. Like those ignorant ones, you really don't know what it's about, kind of stick. I'm almost like, what is that? Where it transcends the actual words, where it's more about
Starting point is 00:27:49 the pattern. And then where the pattern came from, right? So, uh, I'm, I've done this many times where like, I love this song, dude. Like, I don't even know what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And then I won't say what band is because it's one of my favorite fucking bands. And then, uh, I'll kind of like read along, you know, sometimes you read along and it hits you harder. But sometimes you read the lyrics and it, it doesn't ruin the song for you,
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Starting point is 00:29:06 Yes? Good. This is for you. Because on Spotify, there's an audience that's different. Locked in. Loyal, invested. They're called fans. Fans don't just listen to music.
Starting point is 00:29:17 They feel seen by it, like it belongs to them. So when your brand shows up on Spotify, that's who you're talking to. And you're right next to artists like me, Lizzo. So, are you ready to talk to fans? Spotify advertising. You're among fans. Excuse me while I kiss the sky. Yeah, I mean, it's more about the pattern.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And trusting what the pattern is more important than what's being said. And I think if you actually really listen and kind of catch yourself, it's that it's more about the memorable pattern as opposed to the actual lyrics you know who knows what these songs are about you know it could be something completely different from the actual artists themselves and then it has a different meaning to you the listener or you watching a band so i'm always like yeah what is that but you could all kind of follow the pattern when when when everyone at a show can be in sync and follow a certain cadence or words, that kind of simple pattern. I'm like, man, what is that?
Starting point is 00:30:38 And it's some bullshit lyric, you know, I mean, people sing about, you know, for us, it's like, where is your God, where's your fucking God? People sing that along, but it's, but Mitch had this simple cadence, like the simple pattern that, you know, you could, like your primal self could just kind of lock in. So again, it's one of the many mysteries We'll always talk about out here What is that I don't I do not know I could try to understand it
Starting point is 00:31:06 And I could talk about it and share my thoughts with you about it But where does that pattern come from? I don't know but yes so And then you say as As you've grown older So that even it's even more like damn I don't fucking know what the hell I don't know where lyrics come from
Starting point is 00:31:26 or or or the patterns like i don't know um and also you never had an issue with the lyrics themselves to me i mean there's nothing there's nothing that you can't talk about you know art should should have freedom you should be able to discuss whatever you want want to talk about or express so weird yeah i never really thought about that never had an issue you know mitch was seeing all crazy shit. I never really had a... I didn't even thought about it. Like, never until right now.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It's crazy. Very good older. It's a mystery. Where did the songs come from? And it'll be one of those mysterious things. But yeah, man, thank you for your question. And thank you for being so active on the Discord. Appreciate you, brother.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Next one. Horned up, dude. Oh, yeah. All right. Buddha 1619. Does your neck hurt after a show from all the headbanging? You do. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It's funny. This is actually, this has evolved in a very strange way. Because we call them bangovers. And it's like, it's the first like two to three nights where like you headbang and things. and then you're just sore as fuck the next like few days
Starting point is 00:33:01 so we we would call those like a bang over it's like your your neck's hurting this side of your neck um the older you get it's uh your legs um
Starting point is 00:33:15 the the lower back is really scary sometimes that gets uh sore and then there's things that you have to do like uh you know just boring stuff do like um the gym helps the gym yoga all that stuff really um keeps the body and uh head banging
Starting point is 00:33:40 uh head bang ready like those things really keep the body just ready to head bang whenever that that comes and uh after that slaughter show i had a bang over the next day but it was weird like it was was um i i don't know this is a concern but uh it was like i just felt fuzzy the whole day or for two days i felt fuzzy like the brain was just like because you just because your your head banging so you're just fucking throwing your fucking brain around your fucking skull i remember the next day i was like well i woke up like kind of i felt like i was hung over like a little bit like it had that that brain fog which is strange i was like hmm i'm wonder what this is this is new so we'll see how that evolves in time when there's more shows and uh
Starting point is 00:34:37 more shows and tours but uh yeah that was a that was different dude that was really different it's like i was hung over but not from alcohol it's like i think the brain could have handled like the physical force i always tell people i can't help it headbang it's like i don't even i don't move Like once the door opens And he let the demons out They they fucking dictate The way the music It's all about the music
Starting point is 00:35:10 Like the music kind of dictates how you move Man I wonder how this is going to evolve Oh this Fuzzy I felt a little bit dumb Throughout the day But uh I wonder where that's going
Starting point is 00:35:25 I haven't about that until I do have a have a secret too Like I'm going to Oh no fuck This is the worst thing you do in a podcast I can't tell you what I'm going to do Okay I'm going to do some kind of
Starting point is 00:35:47 I'm going to cover some kind of I'm going to get someone in a medical field of involved Like I'm going to see what a head banging does to Your brain That's kind of have been on my mind for a while kind of to do and then you know make like a video out of it and post it um so someone you see someone else post that they stole it from here so fuck
Starting point is 00:36:15 them but yeah that's kind of one i'm curious at what it actually does to your brain like headbangs so like excessively like that can't be good for your for your brain but uh or is it who knows i mean i wonder what the studies will come back with so that's kind of been on my mind for a while like kind of getting like the science behind what uh what head banging does to your mind and it has to be it but it has to be good for your body though because you're like because you're moving and you're expressing yourself and you're letting go so there is something to be said about that uh emotionally and physically so uh yeah it's always i'm what that's always kind of i've always been curious about that
Starting point is 00:36:59 how what what uh is people have touched on it but no one has really fucking like dove into the subject I know yeah I remember this this case I forgot who wrote it and it's cool because they uh
Starting point is 00:37:19 there's like this there's this one article that came out in 2014 and they took a picture of mark uh put it up there uh what was like the consensus of this article
Starting point is 00:37:32 I forgot. That it can cause like blood clots. Blood clots. Neck spine. Oh yeah. Dave Mustaine. Hmm. Amariah.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Age, I guess, over time. Age, yeah. It's just, it's, um, it's, that the reason why I question this stuff is that like they, nothing against Dave Mustain. or Tomari or like even Corey Taylor I think he had some but uh it's like these guys didn't take care of their bodies right so naturally you don't take care of your body something's going to give at some point um mood my ice my whole workout is dedicated to me head banging like okay this is like okay I do this because this is I mean I talked about a few
Starting point is 00:38:31 weeks uh about about a month ago right on here where you know this serves this is best for your body to be mobile for either head banging or anything that you're doing. It's like I'm all about strengthening like the neck, the back, like the lower back, um, eating right to keep the brain healthy. Um, but you know, I mean, but more power to these guys, they didn't really have like the information like I have more. I got in the yoga like late 20s, early 30s. And it wasn't like this was like right when the self-help thing really started to like develop so uh I had that
Starting point is 00:39:13 I had that advantage where it's very new it's still it's still new um and these older guys 90s really 80s too really didn't have that um you know maybe
Starting point is 00:39:25 maybe I'm the guy to fucking do this study and I'll just start fucking head banging to his hardest fuck with these what are those things called that uh that are that connect to your fucking mind there's like these little sticky things
Starting point is 00:39:42 those are the EKGs yeah those fucking I put them yeah they like monitors what's what's happening I put it on my neck
Starting point is 00:39:54 I'll put it on my on my brain I'll put one on my dick just see just to get the full spectrum you know um dude we went on
Starting point is 00:40:04 we went on a fucking tangent head banging tangent dude holy shit hell yeah I think we could squeeze in one more question, right? Let's do one more. Okay, yeah, I'll make this quick. Oh, shit, Jay.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Sounds like a random. Wazeby. Waysby. Yep. Waysby 7450. Hey, mate. Oh, regards from New Zealand. That's a horrible New Zealand accent.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I apologize. Do you have plans to interview any? other old school death metal artists in the near future yeah I try to get the OGs in here just out of respect and out of curiosity
Starting point is 00:40:57 I remember when we had Glenn Benton in here that was kind of like the first time we had like an old school deaf mental guy and then that episode just fucking took off and
Starting point is 00:41:14 I for better or for worse I do this thing where if something happens to the podcast and it gets views I stop doing it because I don't want to or I made a new thumbnail yet yesterday I had a little bit of spare time
Starting point is 00:41:33 where without going into a rant we're like okay like this did really well then okay I don't want to keep doing this because I don't want to put myself into a corner. Same with the death core thing. I don't want to interview only death core bands
Starting point is 00:41:54 and just kind of go like so niche where it's like I kind of want to keep it more like I want to talk to everybody essentially. But when the time is right, you know, like we'll bring someone in. Like we had Travis Ryan in here. We had Paul Ledney. He's an old school cat.
Starting point is 00:42:15 We had we just had incantation. So, so when like the time is right, um, again, like, I only bring people in here that I want to talk to you. I have to be interested. If it's, so, so, so that's why when you look at, like, like, the roster, it's kind of, it's kind of all over place because I don't like to kind of go all in on a certain genre. And for some reason, uh, like the deaf mental cats, like these old school guys, whenever they come on here, it does really well.
Starting point is 00:42:53 So I don't like banking on that. I don't know. I think people like the contrast of me and like a deaf metal black metal guests. There's such a contrast there where
Starting point is 00:43:08 what's happening is a deaf mental legend is talking to like a death core guy, which back in a day is a big, big no-no. And the definite scene does not fuck with death
Starting point is 00:43:23 course still I'm noticed but I think it's just just a contrast I think something fresh I personally
Starting point is 00:43:32 have a fresh perspective um I just want to hear hear what the hell is going on back then I don't fucking know I was born in 85
Starting point is 00:43:41 um I don't start listening to heavy music till 98 so it's cool to this is cool to hear stories you know we're we're here to hear the stories but yeah i just try not to like lock in like something that's working and so hey this is working this is cool but let's do
Starting point is 00:44:01 this now let's talk like like a metal core person or like a death core band or let's go back to death metal okay now let's talk to tsunami or something you know it's just like i like that kind of because i don't want to get lost in like the views or or stuff like that i had to be interested and then like okay, then you have all these newer artists coming up. So you got to shed light on a new artist coming up that are fucking killing it. And then again, like the, I like this, like bouncing around.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Okay, fucking old school, new school, new band, hype, heavy. Then once in one, I have some, somewhere random, like little darky, you know? I kind of like that. Just the contrast. So yeah, I really appreciate your question, man. I think we're ready for some I think we're ready for some news
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Starting point is 00:45:12 When it looks like it looks really weird Because coffee I don't like drinking coffee cold I fucking hate it But this thing keeps your coffee warm. We're almost an hour in and it's still fucking piping hot. Dude, it's fucking, this is, this is sick. I don't know why, I don't know why don't use it so much. This is fucking badass, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Yeah, this is it. Amber mug, too. About $100. If you want to keep your coffee warm, it's badass. I'm using it right now. Again, it's not a sponsor. It's just a really a badass product. Because you're curious when I'm drinking, it's straight up black coffee, black coffee.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Look, it's still steaming. And it's almost been an hour. That's fucking crazy, dude. I have a little charger right here. It's my fucking power station. So that solves this problem. Wow. I'm gonna start doing that.
Starting point is 00:46:11 It just looks weird. I'm trying to connect with the gas. I'm sucking down coffee in a fucking weird way. So that solves that problem. Before we hop into some news, oh shit, I almost forgot. I was going to bounce around. a little bit.
Starting point is 00:46:26 So from the last solo episode, I actually I signed up or joined signed up, joined, my first Patreon. I don't even know what happened. It was like
Starting point is 00:46:42 I found a guitar player and 10 minutes later I'm spending money on his Patreon. And then I paid and I was like, I went outside here. I went outside the patio.
Starting point is 00:46:57 What, what the fuck just happened? I was on TikTok. And TikTok again is my favorite Algo, as the kids say. And this, I think he's a kid, probably 20s. And it was like, it was like the sickest acoustic riff ever. And I was like, oh, like the moment I turned on my phone on, went on TikTok. and then boom I got hit with this like this classical
Starting point is 00:47:29 guitar wave of emotion and uh it caught me the first second you see it's it's just this a good example of like you only have one second one and two seconds and he hooked me so uh yeah j can we play this one one riff can we crank it for like
Starting point is 00:47:47 it's part of the it's probably the full riff that's fucking dude it's it's it reminded me of of like incubus, make yourself era. And I was hooked. And then I went on TikTok. I found his Instagram,
Starting point is 00:48:19 which is what we have on now. If you're curious, his Instagram is, Jay, correct me, if I'm wrong, Acoustin? Yeah, acoustic. I want to say he's being probably Austin,
Starting point is 00:48:32 probably. But he basically put a, I, N, or N at an acoustic. So Acoustin, too, on Instagram. It says full of these short, sick acoustic riffs. Most are on a classical
Starting point is 00:48:47 and others are on an actual acoustic and his his pull-offs and his voicings are just like, I haven't heard anything like it. And then, okay, so that sparked some curiosity.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And I found his YouTube. And, uh, hey, Jay, go, go to his bio. And this is what sold me, actually. So his bio is pretty similar to his Instagram and his, uh, his YouTube. So it says, subscribe to my Patreon for tutorials and tabs. Or to support me and help me keep my student debt under control. So it sounds like, well, should I have been like so many followers he has to 298,000? Fuck. Um, so yes, I saw, he's, yeah, he's, yeah, he's, yeah. he's probably a kid in his 20s. I probably has a crazy student debt like a lot of young people do. And yeah, I got hooked, man. So,
Starting point is 00:49:54 so that, before I know it, I'm on his Patreon. And I got the $5 tier. And I was like, holy shit, I just spent money. And I have no idea how the hell has happened. So I leave here. I'm on the freeway.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And then he has a, he has a Spotify and he how do you explain this I think I found like five or like five or six records or something and
Starting point is 00:50:28 yeah he has 18,000 followers go to albums Jay and I'm going to see how many albums he has go to show up one two three four five six seven because he has seven records but the records are eight to twelve minutes long and i think it's such a cool idea because it's just a mood the mood is the song title like still fine saddle dust um perfect groove dust and rain uh just um it gets better i'm sorry i love you um
Starting point is 00:51:09 man it touches my heart and uh yeah the more like just emotion song titles but the songs are 34 seconds 44 seconds so it's just riffs and i thought that was such a cool concept um he'll put like fucking 12 riffs on on a record and the records eight to 12 minutes long i'm like that's a fucking that's cool i think that's really innovative and uh yeah i just i just want to give him a I mean we gave him a fucking shout out
Starting point is 00:51:45 we gave him a whole fucking free ad uh for his Patreon but uh I don't realize he has so many followers
Starting point is 00:51:53 but yeah he has all these sick riffs um so if you uh if in a mood for something different uh check him out
Starting point is 00:52:03 um acoustic too on Instagram and uh it's a Patreon YouTube Spotify I found him on TikTok pretty sick
Starting point is 00:52:11 but I was like damn How to like, wow, I just fucking, I spent money. And he fucking got, he just, that riff just, it shows the power of music, man. Like, the moment you started playing, like he, he got access. He got access to my heart in less than two seconds. Boom, I was locked in. And, uh, really impressive.
Starting point is 00:52:40 So, uh, shout out, man. And, uh, good luck with your, uh, student debt. know a lot of people struggle with that and uh for a lot of people it's crippling and um what is it j like like student debt is like the one thing that you can't declare bankruptcy on or or something or something uh like you can't um like you can't get rid of it which is wild um i've never had student debt before I went to community college for one year and I did nothing
Starting point is 00:53:21 and I dropped out that's tough dude what's the average student debt what's the what's like the average um I'm just curious on the average okay according to an AI
Starting point is 00:53:38 overview the average student loan debt for federal borrowers uh in the US is approximately 39,000 to 40,000 to 40, $2,000 including private loans as of early
Starting point is 00:53:52 2006. Wow. Wow. Well, over $3.6 million or more than $100,000. Wow. Barrow was often pay around $227 to $450 monthly depending on their total debt. Wow. It's like, it's like more than a car payment a month. Like, like, a hundred grand. Oh, dude, you could have bought a fucking, dude, you could have bought a fucking Ferrari or something. Like, you, you, you could have bought a pussy magnet with that money.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Fuck. That's heartbreaking, man. That's a lot of, a hundred grand in debt, dude. Holy. Man, it's rough. So, yeah, it's cool. It's cool that we could help someone take care of that. And I was like, I remember I was driving, listening on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I was just like, this is cool. Just keep giving me riffs, man. Just give me some riffs. I love it. And cool. Next, next news thing. I was listening to... Actually, let's just react to this first.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah, right. So I found a clip, and I thought it was funny, and I want to all... What the hell do you, honestly, if you hear this, This is a clip of Jeremy, the singer of a day to remember, singing at a festival, but it sounds like he's saying something else. That's obviously not the lyrics. Or it could be lyrics. Who knows? We're talking about lyrics earlier. But if you hear this, what do you think he's saying here?
Starting point is 00:55:39 Let's fucking crank it a little, a little bit. Yeah. Okay, first of all, shout out to the jeans. Do I haven't, I haven't rolled up my jeans. since I was in elementary school. So more power to you, brother. I am your bacon boy. It sounds like you're saying I am your bacon boy. I am your bacon boy.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Dude, sometimes the internet is cool sometimes. It sounds like it, though. I wonder what he's actually saying, though. I am your bacon boy. He's pretty hard. It's pretty sick. Yeah, what, I wonder what song is. I'm sorry, I'm not like a fan or a listener
Starting point is 00:56:34 to a datarian members, I don't really know what fuck, we're kind of in a the new, fuck. Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder, what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up? That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair. With Wayfair, there's no
Starting point is 00:56:52 what if. Just style you love and quality you can trust. Visit Wayfair.com. Wayfair, every style, every home. Fuck, we can't find a song in title. I'm sorry. Fuck. But if you're curious, you'll probably find it. And there's fucking 400 comments.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It's fucking hard to... I am your bacon boy. Yeah, pretty sick. Man, the theme of this has been a lot of lyric talk. Do we find it? Oh, I am your breaking point. I'm still in your head. I'm still in your head.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I am your breaking point. The song is called paranoia, if you're curious. And it came out in 2016. I am your breaking point. I am your bacon boy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What the, it's like, what the fuck you see? saying. What are you saying, dude? I'm saying I'm, dude, I, I just want to be your baking boy. Talk about universal, uh, meanings there. Well, speaking in lyrics again, um, was jamming the new machine guy Kelly song. And that shit was, okay. What are we about to talk about right now, man? Is, I will say you have to be either a fan of his.
Starting point is 00:58:44 or a numidal fan unless you're just going to listen to it and be a fucking hater for no reason. But as a new metal guy person, it is a banger. And I was like, okay, there's... Okay, first of all,
Starting point is 00:59:02 Machine and Kelly is successful. There's something we could do or say to take that away from him. But when you get fed durst on a track that says uh... Well, uh, actually go a little bit sooner in Song J, the lyrics come up. If you get Fed Jueres to say,
Starting point is 00:59:22 shut the fuck up on a track, I mean, if you get Fred Juris on a track to say, shut the fuck up, I mean, that's just a level of making it as a numidal fan. That's just like,
Starting point is 00:59:47 I can't hate on that. You got Fred Jurors to say, shut the fuck up on a track. But yeah, I mean, if you're a numidal fan, Um, I did listen to the song. I actually watched a video and listened at the same time. Because I just wanted to see like what the vibe was.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Um, but I did go into it as a new metal fan. So. And the chorus is catchy. You know, when you turn off a song and you're walking away and like the chorus still in your head. All across the world across the world. I know you feel this shit.
Starting point is 01:00:27 See, I, I've even heard the song in 24 hours. I still don't the chorus. But yeah, if you're a fan of new metal, I mean, just fucking check it out, dude. Don't be a hater, dude. But if you don't like new metal, you're gonna fucking hate it.
Starting point is 01:00:44 It's just, I mean, the most new metal rift you could possibly have. I did, right before I did, I turned the track on, I paused myself a little bit. because a little bit of a little bit of my hater side came out because and it's nothing like sometimes you got to catch yourself which I'm guilty of and I caught myself this time I'm
Starting point is 01:01:19 listen to this open-mindedly why because people get kind of pissed if you're like when you genre hop right a lot of people don't don't like that but uh but it's If you're in my position and just had this conversation with Jack from Slaughter, too, like, I can't hate that. Like, because the more people that find out about new metal or heavy music, that is literally how I'm going to have a career. The more people find out about it, the more people eventually will find suicide silence. And it's always a constant flow of new people finding out about, um, your music. It never stops. I'm 40 fucking years old.
Starting point is 01:02:10 The band's been around for years, decades, and still it's like a new wave of people. And I think it's not just one thing. I think this is a multiple, I think it's multiple things always happening at once, whether it's, um, I meet these parents at shows and like, they're,
Starting point is 01:02:28 they have a baby and they're jamming metal and in their car. Okay, that's, that's something. Meishion and Kelly comes out with this track called Fix Your Face, which is dedicated to Ernie. He needs to fix his face. And there's nothing that he can do about it. But this is something. So that's going to add to the pot.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Again, we're talking about TikTok. People find out music from TikTok. Chloe Kardashian is wearing a black metal shirt, and people are pissed. And I'm like, but that adds to the pot. I think it's just all. I don't think this is one. I think it's just all like things are just happening. And that gives bands,
Starting point is 01:03:12 that gives people like me that play heavy music for a living as a source, as a big source of income, if not the main source of income. Oh shit, I could, like, I could support my family doing this.
Starting point is 01:03:26 So it's why I, when people get pissed about the shirt or about culture, And there's a while where everyone wanted death metal logos. Like everything that made my band special or death metal band special is just like everyone just took it. And video games are having like death metal logos. But you can't get mad at that because that actually will give more exposure to all your favorite bands, which, you know, do you want your favorite bands to be fucking broken and just sad? Oh, you want to, you want them to have a fighting shot.
Starting point is 01:04:03 so yeah it comes I mean I'll admit you know it's like this is buried in there it's just like it's just there
Starting point is 01:04:12 and something will fucking tickle it oh shit hater hater mo's coming up but but you always you gotta catch yourself and then uh
Starting point is 01:04:20 it's sick whatever um puts heavy music on a map I'm all I'm all about uh can't hate
Starting point is 01:04:29 again I can't hate on it because it's gonna give people like me career. So you know, the bigger the shit gets, uh, more potential money
Starting point is 01:04:43 will come into my pocket in a healthy way. And I won't spend it I won't spend it on alcohol and cocaine anymore. So but yeah, if you're again, if you're a fan, uh, check out the song. It's dope. It's dope of your innumerable fan or if you have an open mind.
Starting point is 01:05:03 But if you're a hater, oh, you're just gonna fucking, you're just gonna hate it. You're just gonna fucking hate it. But yeah, check it out. I think we got everything. Jaded, did I miss anything? I think you, I, oh, yeah. Pretty cool show guy announced, Slare, Canama Corpse, Crowbar at the fucking forum. I'll be there
Starting point is 01:05:36 I think Depends what I think it's in November right Oh yep November 13th November 14 Because the first one sold out And uh wow That's fucking sick
Starting point is 01:05:51 Dude There's one more Oh yeah And uh A couple of their conspiracy All right I gotta do it It's my bite me any ass
Starting point is 01:06:02 But I gotta do it I've been trying to get Max in here for years. I talked to him in person a few years ago. You'd like, I want to do it. But it's so hard to get people actually in here. Again, it's all timing.
Starting point is 01:06:19 The man, Max, I would love to have you in here. I think it'll be a great conversation. You know, I swing. I swing all the time. I don't hit a home run every time and I miss. And sometimes I might bomb episode. But most of the time, the conversation is great.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And it tends to be their best conversation on the internet. So that's obviously with Max. I would put my heart and soul into it. Straight up more than anybody else would. So that's a flex. I love Max. And I love, I remember hearing,
Starting point is 01:07:05 I remember hearing roots on the radio. And that's, yeah, again, one of those long lists of songs, that's why I'm here. You know, I love Max.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And I would just, again, I would swing. It's like I always do. Put my heart and soul into it. So maybe I should go to the show and stock them. It's kind of, do I've learned a lot,
Starting point is 01:07:31 man, of just being in the room. I just being there and having FaceTime. I learned a lot. lot about that. I was going to try to see him at the show, but again, like, it's like, I'm going to bed. Fuck, dude, I'm going to bed right now. I'm going to home.
Starting point is 01:07:55 So, yeah, I know myself. Sometimes I could push it. Sometimes you can push it, but sometimes you can't. Sometimes it is a case where don't be a bitch. Stay up. Other times, dude, you don't got it in a tank. So I learned that by myself. Damn, they're putting Slayer lights all over the place or what?
Starting point is 01:08:21 That's sick. Real quick, this is a good way to close it. The Slayer ever say that they were done playing shows? I don't think they ever said that. Because I remember when they announced their last tours, to me, I was like, oh, they're not going to break up. They're just not torn anymore. but everyone was freaking out like oh this is the last LA show we got to go I'm like did
Starting point is 01:08:50 they ever say that I don't think they ever did it's like we're going to do a farewell tour which means not touring but it's still going to play shows yeah farewell tour means nothing I don't think they ever said they were going to break up or they're going to have a last show I don't think they ever said that but I'm curious did they uh did they ever fucking say that if you do some digging I don't think they ever fucking say that if you do some digging I don't think they ever said they're done, which is a smart way for bands to do it. Like, Torn and playing shows are two different things, dude. I was straight up with you, Torn sucks.
Starting point is 01:09:32 On the older I get, I do not enjoy touring anymore. The only thing I love is the actual show part. That's still sick. And then meeting people in person. Whether it's at dinner, I'm at a restaurant across the street from a venue or after the show. So that's cool. If it's not that, I do not enjoy it. It's not a time to travel.
Starting point is 01:09:57 It's not a time to sightsee. You're just waiting. A lot of wasted time. It's really hard on your body just straight up. It's just not. I'm coming from me where I try to do my best to take care of my body, my mind. It's hard out there, man. Away from my lady.
Starting point is 01:10:18 That shit fucking sucks. I don't like it. So I mean, whenever someone announces a final tour, I'm like, about time. Who fucking wants to do that? But it's the main,
Starting point is 01:10:29 it's the main money maker. And, uh, for you into older, the guarantees go higher and then you sell more merch and, um,
Starting point is 01:10:37 you got to do it. Um, again, I don't think, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. If you find something, because I remember when they announced all these tours,
Starting point is 01:10:46 I'm like, I never like, oh, like, I'm not going to go to, show. They're going to come, they're even back in a few years. And, I mean, and they're back in LA. This, this, but that was my personal thought. Um, yeah, who fucking wants a tour? And if they, if they, if they could be a band and not tour, just hop on some shows. I mean, why not, dude?
Starting point is 01:11:11 Two shows, two shows, two shows in a weekend. That's, I mean, that is, that is the dream. That's what you want to do. That's fucking, that's fucking badass. I mean, I will hope I'll get to that point where I could just fucking not tour and this. Let's do, uh, let's do a LA. We're gonna do it this weekend. Next weekend, maybe we'll go to like, I don't know, we'll go. They're going to like Minneapolis, right? Or, fuck.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Michigan, I think, somewhere. Um, let's do like two weekends and boom. Still out of merch. Man, that's the, that's the dream, dude. That'll be fucking badass. But yeah, I think I'm going to. to go to the shows. If I'm, uh, oh, wait, I'm not going. Never mind. You can't see why yet. But, uh, maybe I might have to, I know, I'm going to be out of town. Maybe I'll fly in. We'll,
Starting point is 01:12:09 we'll see. All right. Well, this was a freaking heater, dude. I try to, I try to keep this one, uh, condensed. Um, let's see. I'll be at the, where, what am I'm going to be at? I'll be at. I'll be at Shadow of Intent show with Angel Maker. It'll be Friday, May 1st. That's at the Observatory. I'll be there hanging. I'll buy you a beer.
Starting point is 01:12:37 If I see ya. Shit, I'm going to show us this weekend, but the episode will be out. Who else is on this tour, actually? Mental cruelty is on it. Oh, how do you say? Mental cruelty? Jesus, Garza.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Take some fucking English lessons, man. And then what's the first band? I can't pronounce it. This is one. Senestia. Shout out to Byron from Crown Magratar. That's sick. That's a fucking, that's a fucking blasty lineup.
Starting point is 01:13:28 All right, sick. I'll save this one for the next one. But yeah, let's see. merch Patreon check it out the most popular shirt I got
Starting point is 01:13:40 I got word last week the most popular shirt is the chug is the dare shirt so thank you guys for buying that next week we will have
Starting point is 01:13:54 Francesco and Veronica from a flesh god apocalypse that's next Monday hopefully you've been joined the Jay Weinberg episode fucking
Starting point is 01:14:04 two hours, 40 minutes to just drums I know I gotta show love to the drummers out there even though they fucking
Starting point is 01:14:11 piss me off um love hate I love them I hate them um so yeah hopefully you're enjoying that
Starting point is 01:14:17 but yeah I will see you next week love you guys

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