Garza Podcast - 233 - Favorite Breakdowns, Periphery, mgk & Sobriety Tips

Episode Date: May 18, 2026

Garza is back for a solo episode to play his favorite breakdowns, tips on staying sober & much more!Get your episodes early, guitar tone & more here: https://patreon.com/garzapodcast00:00 - Fender 7 String Setup02:12 - New Macbook Pro04:47 - UFC Night at Dan Kenny’s09:15 - MGK Episode19:30 - Hulk Hogan Documentary22:01 - Build Up Takes 5 Years26:00 - J Update29:05 - Garza’s Favorite Breakdowns45:25 - Sobriety Obstacles & Experiences1:04:07 - Misha Mansoor & Side Hustles1:28:10 - Showing Your Girl Your Playlist

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. I'm going? It's the morning for us, but, uh, for you who knows good morning good evening good afternoon uh for you it's monday um i was thinking i'm like what did i even sometimes like your week just goes by you don't even know what you did you know you ever do that um so i sat back i'm like what uh what what even happened i was oh yeah so yesterday i went to fender uh i saw people asking uh where's the

worse of pearl white seven um it was plain like shit so it's why I was using the uh purple one for a minute the neck was uh I don't even know I'm honest I don't know what it means but uh I was told that the neck was bowing

so I guess it's when uh goes up right if you're just listening I'm motioning my hand to where a neck will be bowing uh kind of like a crossbow so it's plain like shit not tuned and uh i already like my action higher than usual and it was really high and i'm already not playing that well so it just really over exaggerates you not playing well so uh but yeah got um

harbier the guy to built this and the purple one um set set it set it up the action's nice people was like brand new took this in and took the purple one in um so pretty sick and uh when you i found out when you get things set up it stays in tune a little bit it would better so that that's pretty cool just to hit that you know that first chord yeah just stays in tune which is uh which is nice so yeah shout out to uh defender as always i now have semi in tune guitar so i did that it's cool quick little pop in the hour um got a new macbook pro i got the bass model i'm loving it dude this yesterday just sitting at home

I was hanging out with Leo the cat all day I'm gonna do that more often It was so nice just to hang out with With the cat all day Just was just nap It was like I have my laptop right here And Leo is just here to sleep in the whole time

It was awesome Base model rips Uh It's to 14 inch One terabyte 16 gig memory M5 shit just to base walked in the Apple just pointed to that one

They told me to do a trade-in So I went there last week Yeah, I just bring in your your old stuff And I told him my stuff is old Like I got my I got the other MacBook Pro I got it 2010 Which is the one we use for the audio here

Like it's This isn't gonna be worth anything And no bring in a man You probably get like 350 I'm like 350 holy shit okay and then I had my Mac mini here I was gonna bring both her eye up where I get like 500 bucks and um yeah went there the laptop is worth nothing and they offered me uh $60 for my Mac mini so decided to keep it I got them back mini the day of when Apple dropped the first M chip line I remember

when the Apple was a long ass line I'm like why there's many people here This is just Apple, but then I found out, uh, they're dropping a new model. This, I mean, this was, wow. I mean, pre, uh, I mean, it was during the Pandy. Because that's when, that's when I got the Mac Mini. Oh yeah, dude, it's it. Yeah, there it is. Announcement, uh, November 10th, release date, November 11th.

Oh, yeah, it checks out. That checks out. Yeah. Because we did the pod in November with Alex, like right after that. Okay. It all kind of lines up and makes sense. Long-ass line. I got, yeah, I got like one-on-one, like the last models of the older MacMoney.

So I thought that would be worth money, but it wasn't. So that would be a nice paperweight. So that's cool. It's cool to work from home, chill, hang out with Leo. I saw the UFC fights. Sean Strickland and Hosmot Chimayev went to Dan Kenney's. house, haven't done that. And I used to be like a, it used to be like, I would watch fights there a lot more often,

but there really hasn't been like these like crazy cards. I used to go there all the time just to, you know, Conner's fighting or something. But, yeah, this was a big fight. It was my good friend's birthday, Niga, and he said, hey, man, for my birthday, get me give me a pack of Zen and then he sent me a picture and there and there's a reason why I'm telling this story because we all have friends like this that that we love and we love to be mad at him and it was a picture of the winter fresh one so it's like a green one and then I went to three gas stations I'm already there it's a long drive I went from here to two

temeculas it's two hour drive over but it's his birthday at the fight you know you got to you got to show up for for your friends you know and then I call them at the three gas stations. I'm there. I'm pissed. I've been in traffic. I stopped working just for a nice birthday hangout. And, uh, hey, dude, like, I can't find it.

I've been to three gas stations. I'm already here in Temecula. It's all, man, any, any, any, CERC, any, 7011. I was like, okay, that does not help. I've been going to those. So I drove around Temecula a little bit. And after about eight to ten stops, couldn't find him. So I bought this the I guess it's called smooth brand

That's what I got him And I fucking walk into Dan Kenny's house And uh And sorry man I can't I can't find it So all many of you you can only get him at tobacco shops It's like Why didn't you tell me that when I fucking called you And we all have friends like that right

They just they just don't have the foresight But they're friends and we love them So see So you can't get mad. Man, what a fight. It was cool. The reason why I'm bringing up the fight is a big fight. And it's cool when they're like announcing like the fighter with the Bruce Buffer.

And, uh, it said fighting out of Corona, California, Sean Strickland. I was like, that's fucking cool. I'm not sure if that's true or not. Because I don't think there's a gym in Corona. Is there? I mean, what it said, I mean, fighting out of Corona. California.

But it says, so his wiki says Sean Strickland grew up in Corona, California in a household with a physically and mentally abusive father. Oh, wow. A lot of information in the first sentence in Wikipedia. I didn't know that.

Yeesh. Pretty cool. So I'm basically, I'm the champ. You know how like people have teams. We won, we won. It was cool, man. What a great fight. So that was fun.

So I did that with a Fender. Hung out with, with a Leo. My version, which is going to tie into a question later. So I'm going to bring it up now, a little bit, touch on it a little bit, is I have days where I,

quotations rage. So I brought a case of, Athletic brewing beer just myself I had five beers so you I'm raging dude I'm fucking downing these beers and So that was my uh That was my version of you know going crazy these little cans is fucking down and it's cool and I mean it works you know That was my first time going there Because whenever I go to DKs I'm I'm just We're doing shots a lot of shots drinking beers whatever I you name it so that's so I'll always you name it

So that was my first time going to be in that kind of environment. And you know what? I'm cool. I'm just going to drink these non-acoholic beers, watch the fight, enjoy myself. And you know what, dude? Went home that night? I was like, damn, feeling good. Feeling good.

So that was a big accomplishment. So it's been a, oh yeah, so since the last solo, it's been kind of a whirlwind. I am struggling like kind of piecing it all together right now. I got this random DM from MGK. I guess we could touch on that. Because we did that reaction to the new metal song he drops. And then reacted. People were pissed, which is okay.

And then I don't know, I sent him a heartfelt DM. Like a quick like, you know, a couple, one or two sentences and you know keep doing your thing I was like this is not meant to get a response back and then his story is which if you listen to it you already know I'm talking about so I apologize

in advance for a retelling a story but he said it was hanging out with his buddies with this band at home and he was going to hit me up on his own but saw that I already sent him a message 10 minutes prior. So I'm not sure

I'm not sure what that's called. It's not a coincidence or I don't know like it was like meant to be like something was telling him to hit me up and something told me to hit him up which I normally wouldn't do. There's no point. I had nothing to gain.

So I'm not. I didn't hit him up. Hey, hoping he hits me up so he did the pod. It was just like, I'm going to send him a message. Went about my day. And he replied like that. I was like, what the fuck? I'm not, I don't know, spiritual or just meant to be.

So I think he obviously felt it. I mean, he's probably used to doing, you know, doing research on him a little bit. Man, his interviews kind of suck. Like, um, it's just, it's really easy to interview him if he go by the headlines, right? So you, you can just ask him these questions, which is, I guess, what a lot of people want to know in here. but at the same time I felt kind of bad for him because I mean

I found out a lot about him within 30 minutes of just doing like just like the okay I'm about to dive in slowly I'm gonna okay I'm reading some stuff I'm listening to some stuff and I found out a lot about him that stuff is that is not discussed

in his popular appearances so I fucking you know I mean, I, I, I get at some of these radio stations need the fucking clicks or something. So I just found out shit about his childhood where, where he grew up and I think he appreciated it. I brought up some stuff that, um, hopefully spoke to his subconscious, hey, I fucking did research on your brother. So it was fun, man. Um, again, I don't believe it. I don't believe.

I don't believe it until literally their ass cheeks are connected to this couch. DMs are cool emails some texts but once it actually happens I don't believe it so again I got to give him credit man he is by far

there's not even close second he is by far the easiest guest we've ever booked in five years it was a couple of DMs can I come out Monday yes I'm free Saturday

one that was it I shot I shot him the Audi he showed up it was just the easy by far the easiest guest that we we ever booked um he told me he planned to do a quick pop-in so I expected like an hour or 10 maybe but he was he was here uh for over two hours and he gave us his time which he didn't have to do so I want to say that I think he appreciated um the uh He pulled up in a really man with sick car I was I was I was curious like he was gonna pull up in it was like a rule's voice man It was fucking badass dude. It was all it was awesome It was like a weird color wheels like man, but he gave us his time

I would like to believe That if you've been a fan of the podcast since day one if you're new to it I mean that's that's cool to you I appreciate you just Whenever you do come in at sick, I established one of the main goals of this podcast was accomplished thanks to MGK. And regardless what you think about them, I've always had the goal since they won, like pre-episode one. Like I want to like one episode you talk to a death mental band and then the next one, you talk to someone that's like an A-less celebrity that kind of is connected. to metal in some way and then you connect them and then you bridge you make a bridge there and then the next guest is the fucking hardcore band or something like just kind of connect everything uh so that this was our first time doing that um the crazy idea isn't really so crazy anymore so uh going from m gk to a an italian sophonic opera death metal band pretty sick we went to flesh god right right after um so uh man that was that was the goal so as uh just top it off appreciate you some some of you are really open-minded gave it a shot

listen to the whole thing i could tell when people listen to the whole thing when they comment later and they say certain things that came up like an hour 40 in or you know like you can't just say that like oh you listen to the whole thing I really appreciate that. And to be transparent, I hope these moments happen more. They say that, what's the cliche?

We might need to look it up. It's not hitting my brain. Luck is opportunity that meets preparation. Like, what is that? Okay. So according to a Google, luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. And I've always believed this.

You know, nothing's guaranteed. You could work hard or you could, we all work hard. We all have families. We all do our thing or if you're following your dreams, we could all hope and put in the work. But sometimes, you know, it doesn't happen. So a couple of DMs That was well over five years In the making

Without going too far into it It's something I've always wanted to do I'm super proud of it I'm really stoked on it It was one of my favorite pods Chris Barnes is up there MGK is up there It's one of my favorite ones

He left and I felt really good about it And it was just fun It was fun jamming those songs and the records at the gym too. You know, nice little ginger palette. If you eat sushi, you know what I'm talking about. It was just fun. It was just fun. It was just, you know, obviously I love doing this.

And obviously, I want to do this as long as my brain is working. Without going too far into it, you know, going on social media during the holidays and I see like people in the metal space the metal media space at the beach or on vacation out of the office kind of pictures on New Year's and Christmas and I've been here New Year's Day was here New Year's Eve I'm here sleeping on the floor Christmas I was here Christmas Eve I was in here my birthday Thanksgiving I was in here Thanksgiving Eve for a couple years in a row. So, I mean, it's not, that doesn't feel like work.

I love it. It's fucking sick. I have a crazy. This is a crazy job. I keep telling people, this is fucking crazy. I get to sit and hang out with people. Holy moly. But there is, you know, like a level, which actually ties into one of the questions later,

which is why I'm also talking about this. I like to tie it all in, like a big, like, just connect things. So, uh, rewarding. isn't the right world. It's like, okay, it's just nice to, it's just nice when things work out sometimes. You know, life's just fucking life in, and then it's just nice when things just go,

um, when things just connect and work out. I was like, damn, okay. Um, nice little, uh, kick of like motivation. So, um, yeah, without going on into a big rant, that was pretty fucking cool. Um, shout out to MGK, we're just giving a, giving us, uh, the time and I, um, in a weird way,

he was walking into like another world. So you do got to give him credit for that. I mean, this is not his world. He's walking into a metal podcast. He has no business here. Um, but at the same time, he does. And, uh, so he didn't have to do that. So I'm stoked on it.

And, uh, yeah, let's, let's close up. the ramp before I I just keep going now I'm I'm porned up on coffee so uh think it's time for uh oh yeah also um sorry um side bar in here um on date night on sunday i've been hearing nothing but good things about the Hulk Hogan doc on Netflix just saying I want something to watch you're thinking about it hype all the shit um it's I want to say it's four episodes. So it's four episodes. Around like average an hour.

I watch one through three so far. So I'm watching the last one this Sunday. And it's about to get dark. I could kind of feel it coming. But yeah, if you need something to watch or do, it's, I'm trying not to hype it up. I'm trying not to hype it. But it's sick.

I thought it was sick. personal opinion. Obviously, after the MGK episode, people are starting to question in my opinions now. But I think it's worth watching. It's fucking sick. It really made it. I don't know that did this on purpose, but I always say this here. People forget and you got to remind people.

And it made them look like the biggest wrestler to ever do it. and the way without sprawling something I was like I wondered it did it on purpose or it seems like because obviously there's always like some kind of like what's like the motivation of this or blah blah blah blah blah but uh

it really seemed like I forgot I forgot and that was my era of wrestling that I was watching um it really seems like they're one of P wrestling without Hulk Cogan for both

uh WF slash WC and WCWCW. It's like really, it's without spoiling anything, it really made it. It was like, wow. I forgot. I fucking forgot.

Super impressive. Inspiring to in some fucked up way. But yeah, yeah, I just want to do a quick sidebar. Hopefully, uh, hopefully you still listen to the recommendations after my recent choices I did kind of learn to

it's not a big deal but I thought I was gonna cap it off I guess I'm not how do you say this without being a dick especially being sober it makes me kind of quite have a semi filter maybe I shouldn't be a dick

Because being dick's fun It's just fun Um Unfortunately I learned That quickly Some people can turn on you Which is fine Um

Oh yeah you had this guy on I'm not Fuck you I'm not I'm not gonna watch anymore On sub and I'm like huh I do this shit for you man Like I can sit here confidently and say that I'm probably the only person

and I guess you'd say I don't know how you say that the media space of metal music or I do things I do what I want to do it's just it's always been that way I'm not doing anything different I don't do things for clicks some people try to get me to their house

I don't do it to shows I don't do it And when you're Especially when you're doing something like this Where it's like man you just want people to watch And like there's some Like you just want to cross over like a blah blah blah blah But it's like you know I'm not desperate

I think things will happen here When the time is right And Something something happened to me today Um You know a top five of mine Without going too far into it You know

It's kind of down but only want to do like an hour and I'm not interested it's just not a conversation I want to have an hour now I need more an hour at this person so I don't do things to do put a name out there privately I've politely that what's the word just politely like the client doing so it has to be a conversation that I want to have, you know. Things always happen when the timing is right. So I just know that even if it's an off-guess, they may not be a fan of.

Give it a shot because it's something that I'm genuinely interested in because I have not done things because it's not something I want to do in the metal space. Turn down some offers. Because this is this is the place. This is the place, man. I love doing it. Five years is nothing, dude.

Again, this is all going to tie in to the future questions and what we're about to cover. So I'm giving you a full scope of things. Hopefully this kind of inspires some artists out there. You know, knowing when to, it's constantly happening, do you like, knowing when to keep the integrity. And knowing when to, because you're always presented with shortcuts. So I'm always like, what's this short, is this shortcut going to fuck me up a year later or five years later or 10 years later? You know, five years is nothing when you look at the grand scheme of things.

Like, see the whole picture, you know. What's this mean 10 years from now? 20. Does this support me doing this 20 years from now? But doesn't. The answer is very easy. I think it's time for a J update. What up?

Chilling. Chilling? Chilling back at it, giving the people what they want. Shit. What can we say? They want to get a horned up, I think. People always find it horned up. I think we do a good job, probably.

I hope so. Hitting the gym? yep in the gym well I took a few maybe like a week off I was burnt out I don't know mentally probably so then I shaved

it's just to see like if I could become a different person or something and I think it kind of helped I don't know yeah think so yeah that's cool I was tired of looking at the

bearded bum looking guy so all they fuck it let's face the facts Let's look at the double chin and then, you know, work on it, you know. Yeah. Good way to put it, man.

Yeah. Is the lady digging the muscles or what? I think, yeah, I think so. She was feeling the face, so I think she was happy. She always wants me to shave, but. Oh, man. You know, that's... Boss.

Yeah. Time-consuming, but it was cool. You got to do it. Yeah. What else? Yeah, I just been working. I mean, we edited, like, quite a few. The past couple weeks.

Mm-hmm. So getting those ready. Yeah, I've been working on some music videos out there in the world. Hell yeah. And I saw Mortal Kombat. Because I felt like I had to see a movie. It's been a while, so I had to go check that one out. So you're the one and told me that it's worth seeing?

I think it's worth seeing. I think it's fucking... I think it rips. Looky. It's kind of giving them people what they want. Yeah, just fucking, especially with all, you know, just everything weighing down, you know, on everybody. Just fucking turn your brain off. Yeah.

Go watch some sick fatalities. Oh, yeah. And yeah, it's funnier than I expected. It's dope. It's kind of like self-aware. Like, it knows what it is, you know? Yeah. It knows it's moral combat, so.

Damn, I got to check it out, man. Yeah, it's pretty dope. A fun date night movie, for sure. Yeah. And hopefully it helps you get horned up after. Hopefully it puts you in the mood. You kind of, I don't know, maybe I'm getting older, but the blood was kind of fucking me up.

I was like, because I was eating popcorn, I was like, I can't really eat this shit right now. Oh. I think it's like the brains and the shit. Oh, yeah. So yeah. But then when you get out, you're like, the world is not that bad, you know?

So maybe, you know, there's not like demonic gods trying to kill you and shit. Yeah. So it kind of made you feel a little better about life. Hell yeah. Yeah, that's it. Well, cool. Cool movie for people to check out.

Nice. Recommend. Hell yeah. I think it's time to pop into a couple of questions. I've already, I'm sorry, I do this all the time. I'm sorry, I try not to rant because I'm trying to get this thing flowing. Okay, so this is, okay, this one fucked me up. I soar dash band.

Garza, what's your favorite? favorite breakdown. I was in the car driving up here and I was just thinking like I didn't put on a podcast or music. I was just thinking like on the freeway. People are driving like shit around you. It's a weird vibe. I was just thinking. I'm like man. What is my favorite breakdown? This is probably going to be more than one part. This is probably going to be like a couple clips because I'm going to have to like revisit this at some point. But so I came up with I was like, man, favorite breakdown. And I was like, favorite breakdown.

Wow. What I did learn, and I'm not sure how this is going to come off, I'm just going to be honest and let the chips fall as well they may. But I was like, shit, am I being like, do I have ego right now or something? Because all that breakdowns I was thinking about were suicide silence breakdowns. I'm not kidding. I was like, oh, shit, I really let that breakdown. Um, I was just thinking about what, what got my brain finally like, okay, okay, well, you know, sometimes like your brain stuck on something and then you just commit to something.

Okay, so like the, the outro for Eilis slip my mind. I love that part. And then that kind of got my brain going. Okay, okay. So sometimes you need like a little kickstart to get your fucking brain going. Oh, like, damn, I love the outro to Eilis. when they did slow it down dude like that shit is

fucking I would I would do it if I was tuned to B but I'm tuned to A so it's probably gonna sound like shit but I'll do it real quick this is this is freestyle this is not me practicing I don't know what it's gonna sound good

that's a sick ass but that's tune higher and it sounds better but uh So that got my brain going And then I went down like Just memory lane And uh

I might have to take you on a journey to uh 2002 Because this is what Popped in my brain I think I have eight I think I don't have a favorite Which is why I'm probably going to revisit the subject later on

At some point later on in this life So this might spark something I was like what I was thinking of our demo Our demo our EP and the cleansing So those are the three that popped in And so I came up with

Three breakdowns from our first demo It came out of 2002 It's probably up on On YouTube somewhere But So this I literally So if you don't know

suicide silence is in drop A 99% of our stuff is in drop A But I'm not kidding Like before we recorded this fucking demo Like the day before I tuned my I had a

Jackson Randy Rhodes The red one I think Mark Morton That's the guitar he plays On a video ruin It's red It's like a chrome

Pickard Super fucking sick It's just like and I think it has like a binding on it but I'm pretty sure Mark Morton has the same guitar because I remember I was watching this video is that my fucking guitar? Is that the same one?

Yeah so it's yeah it's that style man they look so young there, holy shit um so I really I had a sick Florida Rose uh Randy Rhodes Red Red guitar Chrome Pit Guard

um I took out the stock pickup and I put in a Seymour Duncan. We got to find this guitar real quick. It's a Chrome pickard. It's a bottom right, I think. Yeah, I think that's it. No, it's not, but it's close.

It might be that one. Fuck. Similar to this. I was thinking yesterday. I was just talking about this guitar yesterday. Holy shit. I ran into a actually the one right there. Yeah, that's it.

That's it right there. Boom. Looks like a MJ3. Let's see. Early 2000s, MIJ RR3. Transparent red with Chrome, Floyd, and Picard. That's it. I saw a friend in Sprouts.

And we were talking for, I don't know how long we're talking for. Maybe we had a podcast. It was like an hour and a half. friend I went to elementary school with and we were talking about this just Jackson and um said I'm my friend

David Ingram install a Seymour Duncan in it but he put it upside down I'm not sure if that affects the sound or anything but it sounded pretty sick and the day before and we go into LoveJew Studios which is like the popular place

in Riverside to do your demo to do your fucking rock demo you know um you know I'm going to tune into drop G because I love Eternal Suffering These songs are going to sound way better

So, uh So yeah it's fucking drop G super Super uh super low So I'm going to transpose this Uh Wait how do I fucking Would be the two? She should be two

All right so now I should I should in theory be drop G now Yep that's it That's literally Eternal suffering When I do open G dude Damn I should go to drop G

Oh my shit The first song Suicide ever wrote Was a song called Soaking Tears And it literally started everything Um This is like the Like the first slam we have

It's like I still It's kind of my go to Um It's probably like a minute in or something I just just pure slam just slam dude this was 2002 so I was thinking on the drive over here man I love that breakdown I this is probably this is probably my most listened to suicide sound song if I listen to suicide sounds I listen to this I was buying a t-shirts from from Target

the other day and I was jamming this demo I was like damn I fucking missed it so there's that breakdown same song it's the outro I haven't played this enough I don't know how long. Makes me bad. I still love that fucking outro breakdown. I think there's even like a siren. This isn't one of my favorites, but... It's like a siren outro too.

But same demo. This song called Stan Strong. Another slam at its love. I go back to you. I try to rip it off. I'm in that point of my life where I'm just trying to rip myself off. Again, like kind of. probably like a minute in and it just goes into this fucking stupid part so that's it for the uh drop g stuff

go back up to a just like that cool um then the other one was so we're at rat four right right in number four EP the self-title EP uh about a plane crash this song was all written by uh rick ash which he played shit um still one still one of my favorites very like terminally you were aborted ghosts which was a band we were jamming back then sludgy too um during like the bridge it comes out of nowhere and i just again it's uh like the suicide silence knows you're just like it's three zero anything from three to zero that's like if you can find a unique pattern using only those only right here literally it's just keep your hand here if you could write a sick groove that's kind of like the suicide sounds way um so same concept as uh soaking tears earlier

uh just kind of stays right there so yeah it's uh so that's called a battle plane crash probably yeah probably like this short song bridge part i forgot the forgot the cores though I think it does like this weird octave thing right right before a slam so that's number four and then we finally get into the cleansing

so this three parts came up where I'm like I love that I love that and I love that um it would be the outro to unanswer is finally some songs you're probably familiar with I just want to give you some fucking deep cuts because

yeah it's nice to get like the lore of it but finally a part you're probably really familiar with it's just the outro it's the part where all your

yeah just when Alex is fucking just like primally just that's even a word this hits the tombs and Mitch just comes in all your pros are going to answer oh man

this loads are just like man special And then a primal riff underneath it. Still one of my favorites. I remember when me and Alex were writing Hands of a Killer, that's still one of my favorite slams too.

It's kind of, yeah, it's the first breakdown of the song, first and last. It's like a top stream blast. It's like new metal riff, but just insane drums, insane blasting. So it makes it sound,

not new metal but it's it's a new metal riff so you so so we're so we were doing like a new metal riff but we're teasing at the same time which is what um man we don't we don't do that enough you like you tease the fucking slam on alks is doing this crazy blast then the slam after assist i love it man it just it came from the soul that's the childhood trauma coming out again three stays at Three and one. Where we had? I think that's, I think that's seven.

Okay, last one. I'm doing this shit way, way too long. Okay. Last one. Fallon. Combines the classic suicide picking and then just fucking two one zero.

One of my favorites. We don't play it live often because it's a really long song. Really drawn out, unfortunately. But, uh, pretty sure is number eight. But yeah, last one.

My favorite breakdowns ever. So was that one. Good question. I will revisit this at some point. I know that wasn't your question, but I don't have a favorite. And I just had that play. Like, I just played everything I came to my mind on this drive. I'm like, I love that.

I miss that. I was like, oh shit, they're all suicide songs breakdowns. But that's what comes to mind. So, again, Aysore band. I assume this is a band. Check out Aesore if you can find them. I appreciate your question. question. This will probably be our last question too.

Wait, uh, let's see. Last one. Let's do number three. Uh, because this ties into what we're talking about earlier in front of tied all in. I'm already, I'm already going too long, dude. Okay. Uh, see, Matthew Agari, Aguirre. Uh, Aguirre. Okay. I don't have that. are 1727. I've been sober for close to a year now, and it's still very difficult. What helps you?

Man, I'm sorry, dude. But congrats on almost a year. It's a big deal. I'm approaching three months. The next solo, I'll probably be announcing that three months, which is my goal at the first. What does, I got to say that,

Um, I'm lucky that I'm 40. So I kind of have more of like an emotional capacity to handle some stuff. Um, again, what's helped me will not help someone else, but the non-accoholic beers help me. Um, if you can drink them, great. If they trigger you, then don't, don't. That's not going to help you. But, uh, going out and drinking some. Kind of like, yeah, I'm like, I'm hanging out. I got something in my hand. That helps.

And that doesn't trigger me even wanting alcohol. That helps. I mean, this might, this might cause some problems, but talking to people, getting out of Getting out of your own body. So getting out of my own body is helpful. I'm asking questions to other people. Again, I'm podcasting other people. I don't do it because I...

I do because I want to. I like talking to people. So if you don't like talking to people, that's a whole other issue. But for me, I enjoy it. And what helps me, be social. It's just talking to people and asking them questions, getting out of my own body, my own mind.

I'm also lucky to have a great support system My lady of almost seven years She's been telling me to quit drinking for years Years I brought her into this world Of eating pizza and drinking And she kind of came into my world And she kind of told me like

You should part of stop drinking not like force me and kind of like she did do a good job of uh planting the seed and it's letting it grow um

and um so they came a point where she'd have stopped um you know if you like the boyfriend thing and hey can you drive me home I'm gonna I'm gonna party so she was a great patient girlfriend

I'm lucky so I had a great support system she told me to stop she wasn't trained so it kind of made me feel like a weirdo like just going on dates and she's just like oh he's getting them and then she'll make you know when like your partner or your wife or your husband or whatever like where they make the comment

oh you're getting another drink oh man they're like oh shit like I know I shouldn't be getting a second or third drink but I am um so that also I believe an omen I believe in signs

I believe in hints Meaning I told a story here That I almost got into a fight with a bro In a parking lot Slowly because of alcohol It was my fault The way the reactive was wrong But the core of it was me

It never happened if I didn't I wasn't drunk And have my poor girlfriend drive me home So that is what Again that's what you call a sign Hey, this is like, whatever you believe in, God or not, or something's telling you, hey, this is the problem. Here's your sign. So, uh, luckily I was at a point in my life where I listened.

And I'm like, okay. I promised, uh, at the time, I promised my lady that, uh, I was, I was embarrassed. And I was like, if I get in a fight out in public, that, that's my shit. Like that's That's your problem If you're out there Being a dick or you're getting in the fights That's your issue

But when you bring in someone else That's when I felt like shit Like dude she's like this innocent chick And I'm the fucking Psycho guy in a band drinking So I felt embarrassed and bad I promised her I'm never wouldn't drink like that

Ever again when you're out in public with me And uh I I mean So for me The level of embarrassment and keeping your word help me. I did not. I told myself, I'm not going to have more than one beer.

So that started it. I'm going to have one beer when I'm out with her. And then that started. And then eventually it's just, oh, no. Signs. So that was the big one. And then little signs, dude. I couldn't drink anymore.

Just from a physical aspect of it, I couldn't drink anymore. Like, I'm having three beers, waking up feeling like shit. I'm like, I just had three beers Okay, I'll stop drinking the IPAs So it was a very, for me It was a very slow, gradual, okay Promise lady, I'm still drinking When I'm by myself

Um Just waking up feeling like shit like hangovers Like I'm fucking partying And uh And then Again I told the story already But uh John Gallagher from Dinah Fita's kind of planting the seed during that podcast.

And I just kind of stay there. Sometimes someone says something to you and it stays there. And that was a moment for me. It could be anyone, it could be, you could hear it a thousand times, but for some reason that moment. I kept going back. I kept thinking about it. I kept thinking about that fucking podcast.

And again, I believe in signs. I believe in omens. I believe that podcast happened for a reason. It was to help me. and that's got himself talking to me hey here you should probably stop drinking dude um I kind of all it's already been there and then I told myself like

the moment um the moment I start writing music I'm going to stop for three months and um yeah I started fucking I got tired of feeling like shit in the morning and

it stopped stopped and then so it helped me again to tie it all in was uh I also got lucky because I got positive reinforcement very quickly

like very quickly within two months my lady is like you're looking good like you're not bloated like your eyes are um they're not all saggy

and your face is starting to you don't look bloated and tired anymore. That's in two weeks without me even trying. So getting that positive reinforcement is really nice. After two weeks, this has been getting,

I don't know the word, but I want to say easier. It's just the positive reinforcement of my brain processing power is just way quicker and I just can't not listen to that it's just it's undeniable because when I have a guess in here

I am trying very hard I'm just doing my best and I forget sometimes that the cameras are on and there's people who are watching and listening to this I forget all the time so I'll sit and listen and I'll just sit there and it's kind of absorbed

and oh shit I got to say something because like there's people are going to be listening to this, it needs to be like presentable. So that reaction time is way quicker. My recall in real time

is just quicker, way quicker. And each episode, it gets a little a little bit quicker. So that is just undeniable. So I am lucky with that or I have instant I just have an instant feedback loop.

Oh, this is getting better. So I guess no way I'm getting addicted to that feeling where, okay, I feel like I'm getting better. I have liked, I'm just more clearheaded and I'm addicted to, I'm getting addicted to that now. So again, like, it's positive reinforcement. After like a month, I'm like, oh, shit. problem solving it's just the brain is working

like just okay just just do this having more foresight again and what's helped me is this might be more

universal I'm trying to give more universal things for you but you do have to channel into something else like with your time

um like right off the back I am more emotional. I think I already said this already. Like everything is more. More sad. More happy. More tired.

More energy. More hornier. I'm so horned up. Dude, it's just like. Anyway. More focused. This is interesting. More focused at the same time.

When you're loopy, you're loopy. Everybody's more Everything's more Like you you you you could feel more Um So what's being helpful is Uh channeling that into something else like

Uh You know okay Like Like I'm gonna hang out with my cat Way more My Like you start thinking about life more

Oh my cat's not gonna be here forever He's I think he's nine years old I don't know how long he has left You know When he's dead I'm gonna be fucking super sad He's here right now

I'm hanging with them all day. He's fucking just hang out with them. This channel. Channel your habits into just reality. And I've been texting people more, calling people more, talking to people more. Just channeling that. I talked earlier about the MacBook Pro. I've been, yeah, again, it's more focused.

I just, okay, I've made like a fucking, I'm in a calendar. of like the next I don't know what's out of boredom or just like necessity but I'm just, your head's more clear. Oh shit. I'm in a calendar the next like five years. Just like easy.

My gosh. Okay. It's more clear. So you just, whatever it is, you got a channel. You can't just, I don't know.

Me personally, I can't do it. If you can, that's cool. But for me, I can't just sit there. I don't know. I had to like,

I had to do something. going harder at the gym again uh what helps instant feedback getting stronger um it's not really a goal in mine but it is pretty fucking sick when you're putting up more weight and it's just like oh shit

not you know I didn't drink last week the fuck putting up the weight fucking became pumped you getting pumped and more horned up um if you're I can't imagine not drinking and not going to gym

I just can't it just gets all that unnecessary it gets everything unnecessary just out of your body just kind of sets you out for a success but yeah without going on to a forum run I hope that helps you these conversations

are going to probably change and involve as my months go on I'm still learning I'm learning real time but also to be honest like my cravings are not there So if you're If you're having a typical time, it could be, oh no.

The scary thing in my habits, which I read books about habit and that taught me like, oh shit, like habits don't go away. You need to like replace the habit because it's there forever and that's kind of scary about being human. Like once you get a bad habit,

you're fucked. You need to kind of, excuse me, you kind of need to channel it. into something else. Like when I, when I stopped doing drugs, it was like, okay, now I'm drinking coffee. Now I'm going to gym.

So it made it easy. So if you're still having a hard time, I'm like, what would I do? Probably, I'm probably started thinking about relationships or things that I can do to help with that. But just transparently, like, I don't get urges to drink.

I had a few small little urges. Literally last week, I don't know where I went to, uh, 7011. I can't lie to you. I only go buy ice cream, you know, that's, that's cool. But, uh, I remember walking towards that, like, like the ice cream section. And I walked past the alcohol and looked at it. I was like, I, I, I, I, it grossed me out. And I was like, wow.

That's never happened before. I looked at alcohol and it grossed me out. Then I proceeded to open up the freezer and grab just pure nutrition for the soul. This was last week, this was racing. I was like, wow. So things can change. I guess to close it off real quick, this is what I was looking for. I'm just something I'm not saying right now

I know it's but here it is I found it I hear people talk about when you're drinking you have like this level like this really fun level like this uh like this is like your bar

okay I know I can have this much fun I like this feeling this is my bar which makes you drink more and you're always chasing that fucking dragon um and then when you stop drinking. I have noticed this.

But luckily, I had the information already. People talking about, oh shit, this is what people are talking about. Your fun level does drop a lot. Straight up. Like, oh shit, like, I'm not going. You're going to all your same spots with your homies.

And you're not doing a thing that you're used to doing. There is a big energy drop and a big, like, oh, shit. Like, this, I would be having so much more fun if I was drinking with, getting everybody's level. What I heard is that

when you stop drinking, your fun level drops, but you have a new bar. If you just keep going, you do eventually have more fun. I'm at that stage right now, and that feels good, where it feels like I'm having more fun

without the alcohol. And that's also very motivating. And that is personally helped me. So having that information did help me. Okay, I know I'm expecting to go here and not have fun. And hopefully I don't give in to drink. And then, yeah, there's just a switch.

I don't know. This is a switch happens. And then, oh, shit, you know, I like being present. I like being, like having my, as people say, people say having like your wits about you, being quick. And this is nice. You don't have to drink. And the bar, you have, you know, you have a new bar. That's, that's actually above your alcohol bar.

And that's fucking cool. So that's something to look forward to you. If you're not there yet, it is possible. Like 100% it is fucking possible. And also wake it up in the morning and feeling good. I'm sorry, dude. That's just fucking sick. Like it might sound boring, but it feels so good to wake up.

Like, oh shit, I'm ready to fucking work. I'm ready to, I'm ready to, I'm ready just to go. I'm fucking sick. I'm fucking horned up. So hopefully that helps you. I gave a long, long answer. And I wonder, you know, like,

I think we're good with, good at the questions. But yeah, thank you, Matthew. And good luck with your journey. Whatever you think is not possible, it's fucking possible. You know, maybe all of you are, on this journey with me.

Maybe you're seeing things in real time. How I'm changing my perspective. And hopefully, this is getting better for you. And when I ran, I noticed that my rants go a lot longer. And the processing power can connect memories. That's very motivating for me.

And that keeps me on track. Yeah, I think we're ready to move on to some news. I was, after I was done thinking about all the breakdowns, about halfway in, I have like a 45 to an hour. our trek here. So about halfway in.

I was listening to a part of the Nick Nanturnal podcast. He's talking to Misha. I have invited Misha here. Had not had a response. Just going to throw it out there real quick. Love Misha. But yeah, I was listening to it because apparently people are not liking like the he said you need a side hustle

when you play music um so that might have pissed people off uh so just so I just so I understood his perspective and what he was trying to say I listened to it from front to back this this section I was like okay

it was over and then I continued my uh my drive and kind of let let it sit and let let it process i'm like what am i even going to say hmm and then i close the door i'm like i'm going to just let it come out for better or or for worse which is my kind of my style how i let to approach these things but uh and i think uh shout out to tuck uh and fit forward king apparently he had a comment about it uh i understand though i understand uh I understand both sides. Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair.

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Because Fit for a King is a big band, whether you like them or not. So I'm just going to assume that they're doing very well. when they come around here they're either fucking I might have not have said it this way and that's coming from me I'm a very confrontational guy

I might have not said it this way but it is funny and I do like that so for my entertainment Tuck I definitely appreciate the comment maybe Misha doesn't but it's all good everyone is not meant to be happy

in his fuck especially in this fuck industry where everyone's being fucked over constantly. I think what, off the top of my brain, I don't like the word side hustle because it kind of makes it where like, which I'm not putting words in his mouth. It's more like you need a side hustle to play music.

I don't look at things like as side hustles. I think maybe a bet, which everything he said was was right. I listened to it. the whole section of that clip of the podcast and i mean he is right but you can't really word it as like a side hustle i i think that uh first off real quick uh before i jump into this i think this is what i need to say first this is the sickest job ever to the point where like a list celebrities playing bands people in sports want they they everyone wants to be a rock so i'm not saying everyone but Even when they make it somewhere else, they think about what's it like to be a rock star.

I'm not saying I'm one by any means, but to play music is, it might be the sickest thing you can do. So if you want to do this, cool, I hope you're successful or any chosen art. But music specifically is the sickest job on the fucking planet. I'm aware that my life is very, I'm very fortunate to be in suicide sounds. I'm very fortunate to have this. I have two dream jobs. So if you're going for the dream job,

you better fucking prepare to sacrifice everything and more. No one gets a fuck about you. And I think people kind of expect like, no, dude, if you want the sickest gig ever, man. you better be willing to give up everything for better or for worse

I think in time to jump on what Misha is saying I wouldn't put it in a way where it's a side hustle I think it's just more apparent that there's more competition that's more bands the expenses are fucking insane

I'm experiencing it in real time they are fucking crazy I think it's just it's just more obvious. Maybe it's always been in this way, but maybe it's just like people are talking about it, but becoming a musician specifically, I mean, we can talk about all art, but since it's the subject, let's talk about only music. It has truly become a 24-7 gig.

So whatever that is, I think each band has their own nuances. Um, you're talking 24-7. You're not working on your art or music or being involved with music 24-7. You don't even stand a chance. Sorry. Like, that's just the fucking cold-hearted truth. Um, either I could be mad about it or I could accept it. Um, so all these, you know, me being 40, all these clichés in my personal life,

and my experience with suicide sounds have all come true. And they're and they're cliches for for a reason like uh you got to love it. Oh, you got to sacrifice everything. Oh, you got to lose all your money or you got a, um, you got, you got to be passionate about it. And all these stupid cliches you hear all the time. I mean, they're cliches for a reason. It's all true. Like it goes, I don't know.

It goes beyond love. Like you have just the amount you have to. to love your music. It's just, I can't even put it into words because if you love it, like, it can't, it doesn't turn off. I, again, I mean, I went on a hiatus. I mean, I thought about music and my music and riffs and all that since the day that band started to now. It's like, it's all the time. It just doesn't shut off. And that comes from, you know, I, you know, if you're a fan of my band or not, I always loved the music. I can't even, I can't put it in, I can't put it into words where it just consumes your entire life.

It affects your relationships and all that stuff. So you really have to love it and passionate. Again, I can't put it into words. It just goes beyond love and passion. So again, I think it's just more obvious. people are talking about it. You need to put everything you have into music if you want to even be a part of it. You know, I'll get asked, you know, how do you do this? How do you do that? First of all, I don't ask for advice. I'm just, I'm too busy doing. I've actually had a couple situations happen to me recently where someone kind of got mad at me for not replying to them, which now I think I, I think I might be done answering DMs, to be honest. I've had a couple of

things happen to me where you can't please everybody but people expect like this secret answer or like this short there's no there's again cliche no shortcuts no answer it's 24 fucking 7 so i think as far as like a side hustle i think maybe that just means like i truly believe that the brain dead musician is is over where people play music to play music they don't play music to be in business and have a side business and manage your finances and um you play music and your artist because that's really all you know for better and for worse mostly for worse makes great music but when it comes when shit goes wrong which in my career a lot of things have gone wrong so i haven't paid attention to the business.

I think it's just really obvious now because that part of the music industry is dead. Like you have to use. And then when you're in a band and you use your brain cells, people get pissed. Oh, what are you trying to make money now? I'm like, you got to use your brain cells now. If you're playing art or you're a musician, you need to use your fucking brain now. Like you have to have some kind of business savvy to you. Not reading your contracts.

All that shit that it's over. I mean, it's been over for decades. I think it's just, uh, it's just more obvious. So I, so to kind of bridge the gap between Tuck and Misha, it's just,

you need to devote your entire being to it. And you can't, you can't do a side hustle for money, either because people can see it through that. You know, you have to really love to me I want to start a podcast

so I started a fucking podcast that that's my that's my world this isn't a side hustle is this okay like oh you know what dude my whole life revolves around music

hopefully this bears fruit right now you know I've been planting plants and trees and hopefully you know a year from now

maybe five who knows when the time comes hopefully everything I planted say, well, hopefully bear fruit. There's no guarantee. I can see here and say I work all the time, but no one fucking cares. Hopefully, this turns into something that bears fruit.

But I just don't like the term side hustle. This isn't a side. It's just like you're just doing things. Do you have to? I think this might be the confusing part. Do you have to? I mean, Making money with your art and music is damn near impossible.

So if you're in a position where you're bringing in some income, you just need to be smart. Like being brain dead, that's just, again, it's been over for a long time. Misha is a very intelligent person. And I don't think he has side hustles. I don't think I don't. People love those drums and the pedals and all the shit that he's that he's been doing. I think he's just doing things. But I could be wrong.

Maybe maybe he did see it as a side hustle. I don't know. But from outside, all that shit's high quality. I got a Horizon devices drive. I actually used it on a record. I used it on a. become the hunter. That's actually my main tone.

That going through a, what was it? Was it the Mesa? I think a Mesa and it's straight Marshall. Yeah, so I mean, it's, I used it because it was sick, you know? But you just need to, also, I personally believe, um, the human being in general has the capacity, a normal person. No one's the rock. So people get all motivated from the rock shit.

No, a normal person. If you're not the rock, which is everybody. This probably applies to you. I think the human being is capable of doing two things at a high level, at the highest level. Comedians have definitely done this where they're a comedian and they have a podcast. Or they're a comedian and they have a show.

Like at the top of my head, I'm thinking like a Joe Rogan or, Dave Chappelle Lewis CK they have two things at the highest level so I think most people can do that so

and there's a lot of time in the day or okay so if you're playing music okay so write the records use your brain cells and then you could parlay that not for the money if you have

have ideas, why not do them? Like, if you want to make pedals or you want to be a producer and do it at a high level, do it. But to me, when it comes to, I guess, it's going to sound corny, but when it comes to art, it has to be the best. I don't believe in doing anything half-assed. If you believe you can do some sick-ass pedals, do it. Or you get, you know, Toastin has a plastic guitars. those guitars are sick without toast and attach to them those are actually

objectively sick guitars so you could be in a band but also make guitars at the same time at a high level I don't look at them as a side hustle but why not do it

again you have 24 hours in a day if you're sleeping seven hours that's what over 15 hours a day dude what are you doing um again uh the musicians in my experience

I knew this going into the podcast I knew this this was like okay what are my obstacles okay I'm well aware that musicians are inherently lazy part of laziest business people on the planet straight up and that's also an issue you with that business and making money with your art.

I knew this over five years ago. I knew this, this is going to be a problem. I'm working with the laziest business people on the planet. Luckily, we've been getting guests here and it's been working out, but I know that because I was one. It took me years.

This has helped me. I mean, you, again, I've been telling you, like, you're on the journey with me, me figuring out my career and my life. life, my personal life, my sobriety, my business life. And, um, I had to become a different person because I was a lazy musician. I was a lazy jaded ass dude. So I understand like the artist's brain, like, like the, like the, like the guitar player brain. You, you keep telling, you keep lying to yourself that I'm busy or I should only play music. It's all about the music, man. I was that guy. And, uh,

it didn't work. So this helped me like, it changed my brain. The way I think, the way I approach anything, I had to become a different person. There's a whole other side of your brain. Like business, strategies, social media, scheduling, reading contracts, all that stuff was, I know that musician's struggle

being lazy and like brain dead because I was one I was that person like literally up until 35 it took me a long time with the help of this just to undo because it does it doesn't serve you you want to tell yourself that like oh the music is enough and now I'm probably I'm going on a full on rant I should probably be be more focused but uh again like the brain dead lazy musician is this fucking dead um unfortunately I wish I learned this sooner, but you need to use your mind. Every band

is different. You know, some bands need a manager. Some bands don't. Some bands need a label. Some bands don't. You got to figure out your own nuances. That's something that's different now than ever. There's no one road. I hate hearing

this is the standard. Standard contract. This is the standard. No, no, no. Every band, what works for this band will fucking destroy this band's career what makes money for this band will destroy this band's career like you can't like there's no one thing that will just work so uh

trying to bridge the gap between uh tuck and misha but you do have to be business minded you you do because it comes it will come back and bite you in the ass at some point in your career but I have learned with music playing music and money, making money, losing money,

gaining money again, losing it again. Like, I've been through a fucking roller coaster. And I've have learned the hard way that it is a business. It is about the music, but it's also about the business as well. And there's also time to do things. If you want to do something else, you should do it. Just playing music, only music.

just for the just because it's about the art and all that stuff, that's just being dumb and you can't be dumb anymore. You really can't be dumb and you can't be lazy. So I just urge the younger bands coming up or maybe mid-level like mid-20s

or you gotta be you gotta be smart. You got to use your mind. You got to be creative the way you write songs creative songs you gotta think well how can we put it out there

there's always a way and um and dude like touring right now dude it's fucking crazy um just expenses dude are just like I don't I think Misha said something about

in the next few years what's what's gonna happen with some of these bands I'm curious too um luckily the heavy scene is bigger than ever but also you know not every band is on that wave and um it's just funny dude like the amount of money that also misha did touch on this is true like the band can make money it's just but i don't know i don't know what happens it just disappears like when you pay off all expenses like it just disappears like if you want to

a tour a month and I mean transportation alone like a bus I say a month I mean that's probably at least 55 grand you just fucking left your driveway to to go to the first show I mean 55 fucking $5,000 just a drive to the gas station I mean this is the expenses dude are getting insane but as an artist and as a musician you got to do it uh i'm not complaining uh i'm just i like throwing out reality and the way things are and either you're going to be there or you're not um and uh you know god bless all the bands out there and everyone that's following their dreams playing music but uh you're fucked i think i think i learned that literally this month where i'm kind of done being nice and kind of motivating people.

I had a couple people on social media kind of because I wasn't being encouraging like, oh, I thought you were cool. I'm like, you know what, dude? I'm sorry, being honest. It fucking sucks. But it's but the return is so like it's awesome. I mean, playing shows is fucking sick.

Making music is the best and meeting people is sick those three things are the sickest like playing live meeting people in person and making the music everything else around it fucking sucks

it's terrible um but it's like the you have like this opposite or like you do it with this so you do this you know it's like uh

it's like going to gym you know every morning you I don't want to go But I go. And it makes your day better. It's just something about it. Okay, like you, you get instant feedback. This fucking sucks.

Waking up early. Going to work. I mean, some of you have kids, you know, you wake up, you don't want to wake up. You go to work at a job we don't like, but then you get paid and you can support your fucking kids. And that's, it's more, it's more than, uh, than you. Hopefully that helped. I don't know. I could talk about this shit forever.

I think I might have went on too long of a rant, but, uh, do, And also what I learned, dude, I'll say something I haven't anyone say. No one knows what the fuck they're doing. Everyone's trying to figure it out at the same time. No one really knows what they're doing. Everyone is just trying to figure it out. And I urge people that want to play music. You've got to figure it out yourself, man.

I mean, even like if you get advice or help, you got to figure it out. I'm still figuring it out. I've been in a band since 2002 still trying to figure it out um yeah so good luck to you and uh hopefully that uh

that added some uh hopefully that added some some heat some uh some raw insight I love I'm sorry dude I love this shit I'm sorry but it's this is funny

I personally wanted on it I'm an asshole but uh it's awesome shout out to tug and shout out to misha thank you for the heat um shit dude as always i went way too fucking long um let's go straight to the car reaction jay because i know that okay so this i found this fucking clip and uh we we've all done this so let's just watch as as a team let's just watch this thing I'm so... Dude.

Okay, if you're... If you're someone that listens to metal and you're in a relationship with someone that doesn't, and you're in the car, we've all done this. Jay, have you... Have you done this? Oh, yeah. Yeah. What does your wife say?

She tries her best. But then she's all right. I think. After how many songs? Oh, dude. I'll be lucky to get through one song. One? Oh, shit.

Damn. What do you put on? I'll try to put on something chill like my sugar. I feel like it's more chill, but. Okay. Yeah. To regular folk, it's still crazy. Man.

Yeah, I try not to torture her, though, with crazy shit. That's good. I saw this. I'm like, damn, we all do this. And this is how you know it's love. I like to take vacations in San Diego with my lady. That's her kind of spot to go to. And this one trip, I'm like, she's like, hey, you play something.

Big mistake. I proceeded to put on dystopia, human equals garbage. And to her credit, dude, she sat through the whole record. And we're going, we're on a drive on the freeway. On a, it's San Diego. So we're, we're going down the, the, uh, 15 peaceful drive. You get like halfway. You pass like Temecula and such a movie.

Hilly, a lot of green. It's fucking peaceful drives. It's, it's beautiful. The drive alone to San Diego is worth it. Um, and we're just like having a moment, like just listening to dystopia, Dino's those crazy ass fucking scream. She's like, what? What's he screaming about?

And she, man. And after the trip, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm talking. We're like home. I'm like, time is past. I'm like, damn, that was kind of a dick move. I just made it listen to a whole fucking dystopia record. As we're going to like a peaceful place to like get away from our work and stuff, you know. But I saw this fucking clip.

You know, my damn, we've all done this. but uh to her credit uh she listened to the whole record and as always shout out to dystopia and god damn I try to make this thing short

and again I don't know how long this thing is I'm sorry Jay um but hopefully all you listen and watch and enjoy this um this for the people but uh let's see

so I looked at my calendar um I'm not going to any shows the next two weeks so hopefully about the next update I might have some shows I'm going to I'm currently working on a project

up until mid-June but yeah again thank you for listening watching check out the merch we got some hot heat check out the Patreon and next week we have bleed from within

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