Garza Podcast - 245 - Slipknot, Lorna Shore & New 90 Day Goal
Episode Date: August 10, 2026Garza is back for a solo episode to talk Warped Tour, Suicide Silence shows & much more!Get Suicide Silence tickets here: https://suicidesilence.store/pages/tour00:00 - Chugmaxxing01:36 - Suicide ...Silence Hiatus & New Tour05:08 - Warped Tour Long Beach11:34 - How Do You Know?18:02 - Motionless In White, Lorna Shore & Kia Forum23:54 - New Apartment25:08 - New 90 Day Goal32:45 - Being Present in the Moment36:02 - J Update & Car Repairs38:18 - Favorite Drummers46:22 - Ibanez RG Influence on Deathcore56:20 - What Age to Quit Playing Metal1:04:42 - Sid Wilson, Slipknot & Clown1:15:04 - Upcoming Shows
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I have a new t-shirt idea.
Yeah.
It's chug maxing.
New merch idea, chug-maxing.
Because that's what we're doing here.
How are we doing, Jay?
Are we alive?
We're rolling.
We're rolling alive.
What's up, everybody?
I don't know if you've been paying attention to the internet, but I'm back.
If you're, I mean, if you've been listening to the pod, I mean, you already know.
I've been talking about it for a while.
kind of under my breath but uh yeah it's cool i appreciate all the love uh all the comments um
when you see that warped tour in long beach and uh it was it was sick it was awesome and uh
yeah the the um like the hiatus was never meant to be public it was never i'm not gonna go too
far into it but it was never meant to be like oh yeah i'm gonna announce it and
It's more like, hey, give me like six months.
You need to step away from the world.
It's been a long time, over 20 years of suicide silence every single day.
But given that we confirmed that slaughtered to be a bail tour and it was kind of unfair and kind of unhonest not to address it.
So that's why it was public.
It wasn't meant to be, I wanted to be private.
But it was short.
It was like six, seven months.
months so it was nothing and that flew by because we were doing this we're already we're still
heavily involved with uh music and then we did that warp tour just you know and then we announced
no actually prior to the warp tour we announced those uh those dates with a mirror so we have a we
haven't done a headliner in a long time i don't even know it's always been like uh like a co you know
I'm talking like behind the curtain here.
It's always like this co-headliner,
which basically means you split the money down the middle.
You do these weird flyers.
And then they say that you're building your numbers,
which actually isn't,
ends up not being true.
But it's cool.
It's cool to do a headliner.
We're going out with a mirror,
Angel Maker,
which has been killing it.
I just keep seeing their name constantly.
And I apologize.
apologize in advance to
to Byron but
SNestia they will be opening up the tour
and it's a
I mean this lineup
this lineup is wet
so yeah
get your tickets will be all throughout November
and December all over
the United States of America
is proud
proud
we're opening up in Riverside
due to hometown show
November 6th
at the Riverside Municipal Auditorium.
It's a proper, like a proper headline hometown show.
Like it is the hometown.
Riverside, Corona, California.
So yeah, I'll put the ticket link in the description below.
If you're interested, I'll be around.
I'm planning to just hang as much as humanly possible at these shows.
I'll be at the bar.
Not consuming alcohol, but I'll be there hanging.
So yeah, we're really stoked.
I mean, it's so hard to put together like a sick package.
It's really tough.
So I'm stoked.
It actually, in a long time in our career,
it actually kind of came together.
So that's pretty sick.
Warthor was freaking awesome, dude.
It was, uh,
yeah,
I remember when we got the offer,
I was,
oh, yeah,
we're finally doing.
Warp Tour man. Hell yeah.
And it was in Long Beach
and it's in downtown.
So we're driving. Me and my lady were
driving in down. It's like, dang, we're in downtown.
And the
traffic
was horrible.
Like right when we got into
downtown, all it takes, dude,
it's one wrong, I took one wrong
turn because of direction
someone gave me that I should have followed my
gut and I took a wrong turn. And it's
sent us to the front of a warp tour and that going with one big circle and it took over an hour
uh to actually get in uh the parking lot uh to get our passes and stuff so all that time i wanted to like
warm up properly and change and maybe say what's up to a few people is like oh my gosh am i
am i even going to make it on time i that thought crossed my mind but no it's all good uh went straight from
Parking the car to with the help of my lady took the gear straight to the stage because we were on in an hour and
I yeah, so we went straight to the stage got the gear up there got my clothes went straight to the porta potty
Got a change in there as where I saw Jay
And then the band that played right before us was Ginger and that was like a really great like a really great like
like, like, pre-show kind of pump up.
I was just got changed.
Got out of the sweaty porta potty.
He went straight to the other side of the stage and saw Ginger's watching them.
It's getting pumped.
And then kind of like, I have my guitar, so it's just kind of warming up.
And that was sick.
I think this has been the third.
Yeah, it was a third show back.
Again, played a lot better.
played better felt good um i wasn't in the sun like the at the dc show where i played like crap um
and uh yeah it was sick played good um it feels like i was telling me my my lady this
i'm lucky dude like i'm i've officially crossed over um i've been drank it over four months
we might even already been the we might already be in the fifth month um yeah no shots before the show
just straight you know it's water just chilling and when i say crossover i mean like
how's how do you even explain this like it felt like i was drinking if that makes sense because
you're drinking because you're trying to get in like a mood and like tap into something
you're trying to feel it
because if you're feeling it you're going to play a better show
and then that's a better show for all you
but uh yeah not drinking
I was in a I was in a some type of zone
and I guess the only way I could
only way I could describe it is this feeling it
you know you get that the
you get the emotional
uh connection
while you're doing the show
I was like I'm drinking like I'm drinking
Like I
I think that this is it
Feeling it
Rocking out
And it was this
It was sick head banging better
Not tired
Not full of two IPAs
So that really helped
Um just freaking
Just freaking head banging dude
Just head banging dude just head banging
Felt good
Um
I didn't know
But
During no pity
Ernie stopped playing
and Alex
Our brother
Still Alex Lopez
Hopped on the drums
For the last break down no pity
That was a nice pleasant surprise
Inside my body
I was emotional
I haven't
Yeah I just
I haven't
Played with him
A long time
So that was a nice
Surprise
And shout out to all you
That went to that show
It was a great show
Like the energy was sick
this again thank you for supporting suicide silence um you know it felt like 2008 again like the
response back in like the energies like it felt like a new band and uh so can't do that without you
uh so i really appreciate that um yeah i walked around after the show chilled out changed in
our a little a little trailer
walked around the lady, tried to meet, try to meet all you.
I'm trying to find the merch or merch, and I basically went in one big, one big circle.
She went right.
I went left and then proceeded to go around the whole festival, which is cool.
It's cool.
I got to see some bands that was walking around painting truth with playing in one of the other stages.
Oh, the main stage?
I was like, who's playing?
I think it was a cover band?
I don't know.
but um yeah i finally found found the merch it was cool
said hi to uh megan she flew in just for that i really appreciate it
and then yeah just uh went back to a little trailer had uh i invented it i invented a drink i
poured um a sugar-free red bull and we had gatorade there so i like you know i was i was getting
like the like the like the ice put it in in low
red cup like you're gonna put liquor in there and I put the red bull in there and a little bit of a
red gatories I'm like yeah I'm sipping some so that was cool then we left we left ASAP then went to
lampless pizza and Corona on Main Street and got a Caesar salad but yeah dude it was it was
it was fun man it was uh it was a lot of fun and uh I just want to give a quick
shout out to
my my dude defender
hobby Cuba
if you notice I was playing the OG
the OG Fender here
and it just
he just fixed it up like a few days prior
because I needed a
like the nut
was cracking
and there was like some string
spacing issues
this dork stuff
and he put a new one on there
so before it was bone
and now it's a tusk
like the white one
because I like with the white one
which is actually right right behind me
the white pearl
I was like this thing stays
in tune
I'm like this is it plays
perfect
perfect
and then I go over
the fender
it's all done
he's saying up
how does it play
and
I think guitar player
maybe even all musicians struggle with this,
which I want to touch on it real quick.
It's like, how do you know when it's the one?
You want to buy a new instrument, a new guitar,
or you're changing strings,
if you're redo an action on a guitar you already have,
how do you know when it's done, right?
And it hit me, it was like, oh, shit.
The moment I picked up this guitar
when he was done with the setup
and, like, handmade the nut.
just perfect perfect I could tell you put some soul into it and uh you know when you pick it up
and you're just riding a wrist without even trying that's I think that's when you know you found
the instrument or you found the action you like it's just like wrist sort of flying out like
I'm like I'm not even like trying this felt really it just felt really good man and uh it's it's
uh whoops he did such a great job that uh uh uh
it's up there with the number one
with the white pearl
it's up there
I was like there it doesn't
I've had the guitar for years now
and it doesn't
it doesn't even play like
like the guitar I've had for many years
it plays like a brand new instrument
even it's looking at it
I don't know you can't really get it on the camera
but just the tusk nut
I mean it's looking at it
it looks perfect
just like the detail in that and it looks like the way it was installed
just looks like he was born that way then you know we got some uh we want to do a little
because the identity of this guitar has been changing with each seven that that i get
and i was like you know what dude i like the black hardware on the other ones let's put the black
hardware on this we got some fender locking tuners and this one i think it just kind of makes a pop more
Yeah, there's something about the black hardware.
It's just kind of connected.
And we did like some kind of,
um,
I mean,
hobby made it clean,
but I kind of wanted like,
like a ghetto like access.
So we kind of,
so we sand paper down the fucking,
uh,
the,
what is this called?
Do you know what this called, Jay?
The heel.
The heel,
right.
So the heel is like,
it was like,
it was like really bulky here.
And then,
um,
so we kind of like,
so,
So we made it round.
It's kind of cool.
Maybe this might be better.
Made it around.
So it's kind of like,
get a little kind of access.
It fits my hand really well.
And at the moment, that's,
that's when you know when you pick up your instrument.
And it just,
it's just,
things start flying out.
Oh, my God.
I was like,
what that?
It was stuff like that.
It was just like,
oh,
I'm like this,
the guitars,
just writing riffs.
I'm not even playing anymore.
Even that riff right now,
I'm like,
I'm not going to go,
I'm going to do,
I'm going to do,
I'm going to do,
I'm going to do,
podcast and I'm not going to have anything written see what comes out.
That rift just flew out.
So there is something to be said about the action of your instrument.
So that's me I learned because I know there's like an option paralysis with instruments, gear.
People ask me all the time, you know, what guitar should I get?
I don't know.
Whatever is best for you.
Try it out.
You go to guitar center, play some stuff.
Um, but that's, oh yeah, that's kind of when, that's kind of when you know.
Like, it's just right, like, when you start writing riffs.
Just, oh, oh, shit.
Well, when you're like, you get it first, you're, okay, it's kind of cool.
But I think there, there's something to me said about, about the magic of when, uh, you kind of create something.
Um, but then less than the second, which is the moment I started playing.
I said, boom, start flying out.
So yeah, so that hopefully that, that helps you.
Still, it's, I can't believe.
This plays fucking sick.
I love it, man.
I love it.
I've had this guitar for a long time.
I mean, Carlos Lopez, the builder of this,
did a great job.
And he's, because you don't know,
he's went on to make his own instruments for Castosa.
They're awesome.
This is crazy how you could take the same instrument
and just give it.
It's a whole new life.
And that just blew me away.
Like, a lot of,
of love obviously it's all it's all beat up that's just like the look of it i love it so that's hopefully
that helps you there's just so much there's so much gear out there you know so hopefully that uh
that helps you it's just like i mean this guitar just to close it off it's just full and on chug maxing
it just makes you chug max and just wet this it's it's get wet dude
Um, what else? What else I do? I went to, I went to the Keo Forum. Um, I met a couple people there. I thank you for saying hello. Um, it was for the Emotionless and White, uh, show and Lorna Shore. Thank you to Adam, the guitar player for Lorna for getting me in the show. And if you're from California and you've been to the Keogorum, I didn't know until someone told me. I was.
I was already there, I'm parked.
Hey, did you go to the, uh, did you park in the preferred parking?
I'm like, why?
I'm not fucking paying for that.
Um, it was, this general parking.
I don't know how much I paid, what, 50 bucks?
I was like, all right, it's too much.
So no, dude, it's, it's the Kia form.
If you have a Kia, if you, if you don't know, I have a Kia Rio, you could, you get
like this like preferred parking area.
I'm like, oh, shit, I didn't know.
So I'm looking forward to the, uh, next time I go to the forum.
I'm going to find that.
keel parking because you're going to take all the all the juice you can get um see i got into the show
and there's like this really cool kind of i don't know like guest room area where everyone kind of
hangs out uh and then right when you walk in this room it's like oh what is it called like the farm club
or something and then right when you walk in you're just you're just hit
with, I guess it's called a dessert bar.
Like, I'm walking, it's just like this, a cookie bar?
I don't know.
Like, it's just, this, this long table is full of brownies, cookies, jelly beans, sweets, sweets, sweets, puddings.
I mean, it was a work of art.
And so I got hit right with that.
But self-discipline one in that moment.
Oh yeah, real quick sidebar
To help with your anxiety
If you're going out out somewhere public
Eat first
I always do it
It's kind of one of my personal
Secret weapons
I just
I'll have like a
Something small
Something that's not going to get you tired
I'm not talking like a burger or fries
Like from like McDonald's or something
Like a little something
You get like satisfy your stomach
So when you're not going to get like you're tired of stomach
So when you're not talking about you're tired of your stomach.
So, uh,
when you see stuff like that
you're not like you're not picking
from the fucking cookie bar
so very helpful
I've been doing that for at least
a year and you know
kind of Celsius this
channeling not drinking
um
ran into an old friend
so I made I made immense
with an old friend which is really nice
I wonder if I would have talked to him
if I was drinking
probably would have been drinking
they're too busy but no fucking i don't know something told me to go up to him started talking it was
really nice and uh then i went loren was playing at that point i'm like wow sat down
i was just wow um sounded sick it looked sick i was a trip because i was just there last november with my lady
and we saw Mana
and I was like
I was just here for Mana
and now I'm here for a death court show
essentially
it was a trick
this is a weird
it's a weird thing
when I see a show like that
as like a platium
or like a crazy like arena
you're like what the fuck
so it's still weird to me
but it was all it was fucking awesome
it was awesome man
sounded good look great like the lights
It was like, damn, this is a fucking real arena show.
And I watched into that a core band.
Fucking amazing.
That was cool.
I met some people.
I went back into a little farm club.
I was hanging out with Ernie.
Scott Fred from Carnifex is cool to connect with them for a while.
It's chill.
And then a classic me, just left early.
Missed traffic.
I honestly didn't watch motionless.
At that point, I was getting tired.
and I don't like driving and being tired
It's dangerous.
I struggle with saying that word dangerous.
Dangerous.
Is that how you say it?
And we all,
you come a point in time in your life
where you got to make a decision.
Am I going to drive straight home?
Am I going to walk across this food?
Or am I going to stop?
Am I going to get some cookies?
So right before I was walking,
the uh this sort of part which is why i brought it up the first time it's because it's gonna be a
circle story yeah going on i'm leaving i'm leaving the the keel form oh yeah there it is a little
fucking um yep i got two cookies and something else but what was that other weird thing i got it was
like a a macaroon is that is how they call it some kind of like macaron on steroids on peptides
I walked in a parking lot alone like a loser eating cookies.
And it was worth it.
So yeah, shout out to Lorna.
It was, it was just incredible.
I just got to give credit what we're just do.
It was just like how far the genres come.
It's just like insane.
Yeah, what else has happened?
Me and my lady, well, my lady has been looking for an apartment for a long time.
And, yeah, we got, she got to.
approved and she's moved in. We got,
we're going to move outside of Corona, which I was
a little bit bummed at, but
found a place in Corona. Not leaving. So stoked. Nice area.
Price is chill.
Got really, sometimes in life, you just get
super lucky. And I'm
blessed. I'm very lucky. So
I'm going to let her move in.
And I'll part move in
after the tour because the thought of stopping a day or two to move in.
It's just not in cars right now.
There's still a lot of things we're doing for the podcast.
I'm counting days.
I just look at my schedule and I'm like, oh, my gosh.
It's not going to slow down until the tour.
So probably I get home in December.
Move on in.
It was, it's get lucky.
Man, sometimes you just get lucky.
And I'm very blessed.
Okay, the next section.
I'm looking at it.
I'm like, should I skip it or not?
Because I was going to celebrate something, but I had a little boo-boo last night.
I guess we could...
I'm going to be honest here for here on out.
Me and Jared talking earlier about our weight and snacking.
So my goal before was don't drink for three months.
90 days, three months.
I think it's technically.
90 days, but it's, it's easier for your brain to process when you just say three.
It's done a lot.
Three months.
Okay, cool.
I did that.
No stress.
Good.
So I'm like, okay, what's the next one?
Oh, you know, I've been trying to, I'm not, again, I'm not fat or anything, but, you know, I have a problem with overeating.
And 7-Eleven has become a, I've been.
going there. And my, all right, new goal. What's the next three months going to be for me? I'm
okay. I wrote down some stuff. I'm like, okay, I think the next one should be no overeating.
Because it's pointless for that, okay, I'm going to eat clean and detox. And your brain is always goes
extreme. Your brain always goes extreme. I'm like, that's just fucking detox and fucking go on winter
pills and just get horned up. But no, you know, let's just, I can't do any of that. And that's
The overeating is the problem.
And all right.
Be honest, I've been trying to do it for the past three weeks.
And I started again this week.
I was on day three.
And then, yeah, last night I went to 7.11.
And I got two slices of pepperoni pizza.
And I went to Vons and got a Ben Jerry's to nice of dough ice cream.
And that's what happened.
I was like, man, fuck.
It just sucks, dude.
Like when it's like, when the day's over, like you worked all day, like whatever your job is, you're just tired.
And your willpower is just like gone.
He's just wanted like, you know what, dude?
I just want not thinking about anything.
And it got me last night.
So originally, I had my nose planned out yesterday and morning.
You know, yeah, I'm going to talk about this new goal.
I'm three days in.
Everything is good.
But nope.
I fucked up.
So that's my new goal because.
I'm trying to drop
I'm 180 right now
I'm trying to drop to like
155 just a healthy weight
and I'm not trying to get ripped right now
maybe in the future
but just trying to you know
not have a puffy face
and I have a bloated stomach
but also the issue is
at this point with alcohol
what it taught me
is it's really made this better for you
and for myself
so I'm trying to fine tune
things and the overeating
does affect my mental state a lot
like the focus isn't 100% you know so I'm trying to kind of lock in those fine tune those things to make this thing better and the overeating is an issue so I notice when I'm at like 150 I am the most focused there I'm 180 so have you seen 25 pounds of fat it's a lot and I know I'm not tall I'm 5-7 so 25 pounds on that kind of frame it's a lot it's a lot of
of fat. That's that's a lot of fat dude. That's on my body.
Kind of looks like Ernie. But, uh,
it's 25 pounds. That's a lot, dude. It's a lot.
Um,
so yeah, that's my new goal. I, I think saying this publicly will help me stay on track.
Um, maybe this helped me with alcohol. Maybe I, I don't really know.
But, uh, that's my new goal and I'll, I'll give some updates with every solo kind of checking.
155 and 150s is my goal.
I probably won't get there to like February next year.
Because my opinion on this has changed.
Feel free to comment below.
But the big thing people are talking about right now is peptides.
It seems like everyone is injecting peptides in their fucking bow holder or some kind of something.
And I was against it.
But people that have, I know that are really, you know, for me 25 pounds, you know, I'm lucky.
I'm not fat, but other people I know they're fat.
It's actually helping them.
So my opinion is changing.
I am being more open-minded to it, but I want to go old-school discipline.
Like, I need to stop stuffing food into my fucking face.
But, yeah, no peptides.
I'm not doing anything weird.
No extremes.
Pound a week.
Just slow, steady.
So that's my goal.
Just a more fucking clear head.
So the main problem is the late night snacks.
So you're hearing me, watching me struggle in real time, how do I stop this?
How do we, do I have a snack ready at home?
Do I have something?
So I'm figuring out in real time.
Um, is that 70, 11 double pizza.
It's only five bucks.
And then, uh, fuck, when it's late at night, it just gets you.
And also what I notice is that food is tasting differently.
Like, so it's even pointless.
Like, even like when I, when I do overeat, it's not like, you don't get like the same satisfaction as I did when I was drinking.
I noticed my taste buds are very different.
and foods I loved
like in love
I'm my M I still kind of love it
it's more like really like but
yeah my favorite burrito tastes different now
granted they changed the fucking
fratia
uh
mcgill's junior
allegedly sucks
allegedly
and it's just such
so heartbreaking because
I love that burrito
um like
They had to change the tortilla
This is a lot of shinfo
I'm just kind of going off my
My brain right now
But man I've been even going
I don't get that satisfaction anymore
It's all of it
Because they used to sell these burritos
At my high school
Lunch and they were so good
Dude
So they have like the childhood attachment to it
But man
The tortilla is such a big piece
To a burrito
It's the whole outside of a brito
It's like the skin
Of a burrito
And
But
So it kind of sucks now, but allegedly, so I don't get busted.
Anyway, that's my new goal.
Hopefully, hopefully this helps you.
I know overeating is a problem for a lot of people.
And ultimately, it's just, you know, just want to feel better.
And if I feel better, have more energy, more energy to put into this.
And, uh, I had a little breakthrough.
Man, I'm already going over time right now.
Fuck.
I'm trying to rush through this right now.
I had a little breakthrough I want to share with you.
So I always get questions like,
do you get struck with guests and that?
And how do you compose yourself?
And yeah, you got to be professional,
which kind of sucks.
And something cool could happen.
And it's really hard to like be present in the moment.
I think we all struggle with being present in the moment, right?
We're not thinking about, you're not in like a rat race.
You're not rushing anything or not.
Thinking about the future of the past.
It's really hard to be present in the moment.
There's been some really cool guests here that I loved as a child.
And it's this kind of cane and went like, damn, fucking Chivalas just in here.
And I didn't even enjoy it.
I wasn't like present in the moment.
I was just trying to.
make the conversation good than actually just being present in my body and really channeling
that inner child but uh it's all right you know still learning but something to happen with the pepper
keenan episode that i'm pretty proud of someone to share real quick that uh i think it went good i had a great
time he was what a legend pepper is dude he's talking about OG um um
He he went in
To this riff
I didn't ask him
I'll ask the guest to play something
But he just went into a riff
And it was a clean riff
And the song is called jail
We made a clip of it
It's all over social media right now
But uh
And I was like
Oh shit
I put my headphones
So when someone's actually
When uh when I'm talking
I have like the
like my headphones off my ear
because I like the room sound
but when they play I have it over my ear
so I put the headphone over my ear
to try to lock in I was like oh
it might have been the first time
I was like oh shit like I'm like I'm kind of locked in
right now I felt present
and I felt like the cameras
actually went away
and I was really sick like
oh shit like Pepper Keenan
is playing guitar in front of me
a clean riff
and he's like playing a show for me
in like a weird way.
It was just like,
it was just nice like,
oh shit,
we're having a podcast right now,
but I'm still,
I was able to enjoy it
and lock in like,
oh, this moment
whenever happened again.
Um,
it was just nice kind of lock into my body
and enjoy the moment.
So that was a cool little breakthrough I had.
I don't know anyone noticed it.
Probably not.
It's probably just saying gibberish
and ranting for no apparent reason.
But yeah,
it was a sick episode.
Check it out if you haven't.
Pepper is,
a legend. They released
it's a double record, which I didn't know.
Good God, bad man, pretty sick.
So again, thank you, Pepper, for doing the pod. It was fucking awesome.
And I think we're ready for a
Jay update. See what's going on in Jay's world.
Not a damn thing.
Just working, man. Just here at the pod,
doing pod shit. Jay fix his car?
Oh, dude, 3,500.
Oh no.
Catillate converter, thermostat, a bunch of hoses.
Yeah, but we're good, solid.
Got a reliable vehicle.
So you gotta do what you gotta do, me.
You need a reliable vehicle.
It sucks, but you gotta do it.
Yeah.
I was contemplating getting a new one for that price,
but I think that's where most people go to,
you know, just throw old stuff away and get new stuff.
But what if you just keep old stuff?
And just fix it.
You know?
Just fix it, dude.
Just fix it up, man.
It's good.
It's got no leaks.
The engine's good.
It's a Lexus RX330.
Adaboy.
You know?
It's a mom vehicle, but, you know, it's not let me down yet.
Awesome.
Yeah, I had to give a little TLC, man.
And you're trying to get ripped too, huh?
Yeah, I've been fasting, man, working.
It works.
Oh, good, a good hack.
You're saying, like, for those late night or early morning,
cravings, protein shakes.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's been working.
Yeah, I've been dropping like a pound and a half a week.
And, yeah, I went to a family party and they were like, damn, you look skinnier since the last time.
Nice.
So when you get that reaction, you know, from people who haven't seen you, then you know, then you know that's the legit one.
Because that's like, we see each other, so we don't know.
Yeah, we don't know.
We adapt.
You're like, damn, cars are still looking like shit.
No, no, no, they're looking good, man.
Sharp.
Episodes have been getting better.
And, yeah, man, just, we've got to keep doing it.
We've got to keep, we've got to get ripped.
At this point, we're trying to wet max.
Oh, yeah.
It's mobility, man, just...
Totally.
Just stay active, fucking warp to her.
Had us sweating.
It was nice.
Hell yeah, man.
That was fun.
I think we're ready.
for some questions that I have here.
Thank you for
everyone that on our Patreon
that submitted questions also on
our YouTube channel.
I think
it might happen during the potter
today, but we're about to
cross 200,000 subscribers, which is fucking insane.
But our first
question is
from my favorite person.
Dame Mustaine
8 IBS.
Let's see
What are some of your personal favorite drummers
And have you ever been inspired to pick up a pair of sticks
And try it out
Personal favorite drummers
Hmm
I'm going off the cuff
The first drummer that popped in my brain right now
Morgan Rose
Goaded across the board
As far as
The quality of the songs
The records
Morgan has actually been on the pod before, which is insane.
Got to get him back.
The influence, the live show, the sound.
Morgan Rose, I mean, it might be, is he my favorite drummer?
Fuck, you might be my favorite drummer.
Seven Dust for me is top five bands of all time for me.
so I go with
yeah personal favorite drummers
maybe I shouldn't cap the
the number maybe I should just go
Morgan Rose is up there
I mean you
and they've been having a moment dude
like the past year on TikTok
I mean people were finally figuring out
what we all knew we knew all along
they're sick as fuck
people were jamming home the record
mean Alex
our previous drummer
we would jam rumble fish before almost every suicide sounds whether it's like jam whether
it's like writing for a record or like uh rehearsed for a tour people would bust out rumble fish
um that song has become a thing now which is really cool the next thing that popped up
in my uh semi working brain is uh david from corn um his style is just
probably has my favorite snare placement.
I know this is kind of geeky,
but his snare placement is just like,
what made you?
Like, why did you put the snare there?
Like, why?
This is his placement.
He just knew when to throw in the snare.
It sounds dumb when I say it,
but no one else does it.
He knew when to throw in these like snare accents.
I'm like, oh, thank you.
Like my soul was craving, like an accent.
Like, you can hear it in a, let's see,
I'm in almost every corn song.
He does something, but I'm thinking about chi.
He just throws like these weird snares.
Like in the third bar, my favorite.
His beat forgot the life, changed my life.
The disco beat, again, the snare and the snare accents to that verse.
When him afieldy play that verse, like I still listen back to that.
that versic got to life.
I'm like how just like the locking in of two humans that probably don't get along.
But musically, they just connect in like an unexplainable way.
It's just, it's just insane.
And I mean, the whole photography, I mean, David is just, he's up there.
Sounds incredible.
Just a power.
I call him like,
a powerhouse. I think he has the best
Tom sound of all times. The Tom's, when Corn
does Tom's, you're like, what the fuck?
How do you sound that way?
Okay, this is where we're going to
get tricky. Let's just, I'll put myself
on a spot in front of cameras, I don't care.
Okay, so we got
Morgan Rose, just goaded.
David from Corn.
Who else? Who else? Who else is going to pop up at my
brain? Joy Jordison.
That was the next thing that just popped up.
knowing
whatever drum at Iowa
is just
the most insane drums
on a metal record
it'll never be topped
um
also the first record too
like just those
the beats and the intensity
like no one will ever match the intensity
with the song writing and the
and the look
man um
I met him
met him once
good guy
um
At this point, he was already
He was out of Slipmont for some time, I think, already
What was that band he was playing for?
Was it Vemek, I think?
They're on like a random festival.
He was cool guy who was really nice to us.
Shared like a Ross story, a Ross Robinson story,
which I always love.
Yeah, he's in the top three.
I kind of want to throw in one more.
what's like a good
what's one more
um see we got
Morgan Rose
David
Joey Jordison
I want to throw in an odd ball
what's like a
got it
oh my gosh yeah I got it
Ringo
I got it
I got it it's a
what
what's his last name
fuck
Bob Bullack
from Skinless
got to throw in a deep cut
his drumming still inspires me
because when I first heard skinless
yeah Bob Bullock
is that is I say that Jay Bullack
Seems like it
Yeah
Boalach or something
French
Like when I heard
Progression Towards Evil
Their first skinless record
That was it was lightening you for me
It was like a moment like
Corn
Death Metal
But no one in death metal
drums like Bob
Just like
kind of open up my mind
that in death metal
and heavy music you can have like a
unique groove
you can still groove and
do breakdowns and
um
have your own thing
and when and when uh
and his blasting tool is like not exactly on
which we would end up doing
it's kind of the same thing like we do blast beats and it's all crazy but it's
kind of off but it adds to like the uniqueness of the sound
as a whole.
Oh, this copy is just, it's wet.
And, uh, yeah, when I heard that first skinless, I'm like, and then there's a point
where a skinless didn't have Bob as a drummer and it sounded like shit.
It's like, he just missed that groove.
So I got to give, uh, and normally it talks about Bob at all.
He's, I mean, those first two skinless records, do are just incredible.
All right.
I think I'll stay with the, with the four.
I want to throw in like a deep cut for people.
put a really kind of tied on and together like the just a uniqueness and the style um more more
morgan rose david sylvia george wardison and bob booleck from skinless that's my uh four
of my personal favorite drummers and we'll part how to do a part two because there's just too many to
uh to mention damest dane ibs thank you so much for for your question i appreciate it next question
Jen, we got D-Web-7321.
Oh, this is a good one.
This is a hot one.
This is some heat.
This is some hot heat right here.
How influential do you think the Ibanez R.G. 73321 was to the birth of death core.
This, the Ibanez seven string transcends death core.
And I think it might be like heavy music to me.
Like to me, the Ibanez RG semistring is the most influential guitar for heavy music.
Like, not even like, I'm talking like the cheap models, dude.
Like the, yeah, like the 7321, the 74-20, the 7620, like those, all those guitars that were at the time, I will buy them on eBay, dude, for like 300 bucks.
$350
dude
and you're talking like
you know
writing those
like the
like the demo songs
the EP songs
the cleansing
like all that shit
dude like
it was the Ibane
Cemetery
that just
kind of created
on a sound
and
uh
pre
uh pre suicide
I mean
corn put it on the
on the map
obviously with the universes.
But personally, I never connected with the universes.
Like when I saw Korn play seven strings is when they played the RGs that I connected with.
Oh, like those are more fitting.
There was like like like the look of them.
Whenever they played RGs, all those legendary models from like the night,
like the late 90s like had like a like a, it's not, it's not, it's not silverbird.
It's like a beige burst.
Like it's a unique color.
And the monkey had like a blue one with like a white paw on the 12 fret.
Those those RGs to stick this are just ingrained in my mind, dude.
Also they would play in the music videos and Woodstock and all the and what have you.
But I think also at the time you have a tray from Morbent Angel.
I think he's also playing universes.
that might have been the only guitar available at the time,
I believe.
But Trey,
so Trey's killing it.
I've been in sevens,
but with Trey,
he was,
I mean,
he's also known for like,
um,
B.C. riches,
like some crazy guitars.
So he didn't really lock in.
Like,
he didn't,
like,
he didn't have like the identity of it,
but he still wrote some insane riffs with,
with the seven string.
And then,
uh,
right after you have,
obviously,
Dino from Fear Factory.
going in there.
But
that just inspired
heavy shit, dude.
Like that just exploded
like the influence
of heavy music.
And so guys like me
that don't know shit
that are in high school
freshman year
even junior high
I'm like, oh, I want to
I've been as RG 7th string.
That's what I want.
And I think also at the time
you couldn't really find the RG
7620s or 7420s
Like guitar center had the
They had the 7321s
And they had these other models
They're in and out
But if I went to the guitar center I played these
They were like
I think West Boran played it for a little bit
It was like a
It was like a gray
Like a flat gray
Not unless Paul
It was like a, you know, it was like a weird shape.
It was like a kind of like that shape, but it was, it was,
Ibanez Semisstream.
It was like a weird, I don't know how we go.
What's that, oh, what's that model?
I should have known before I did this.
It was, uh, what was it, man?
That net, see, now, now it's going to bug me.
Actually, go to your left, Jay, right, right?
You're, you're right.
Wait, you're right.
No, you're, you're left.
left left left left boom no down down what is that in the middle that's it what what's the model
i just want to tell people what what the model is no the uh the one in the middle of the weird
headstock what is that model but but that's it fuck actually that might be it too
is that it's something something weird yeah it's a little other cheap model but uh and also what
ibniss did right is they were affordable they were affordable you had access this the
a really great inspiring guitar and he's walking to guitar sarahs here and like i've done many
times ibnest seven string into my my go-to was like plug it in straight to a line six
because it's gaining out you start wet maxing and it's let's get wet maxing and let's get wet
that's so influential and then that will go on to you know us looking at and all these oh yeah okay
j found it it's the a x7-221 gp that's it when when a guitar center when a guitar
son I had it I will always play this fucking guitar I should probably buy it at some points
probably are affordable but let's talk death core
I think that's what,
uh,
that's what,
uh,
that's what your question is focused around.
I just had to bring it up.
Um,
um,
so influential.
Cause,
because we were inspired.
And it's really hard.
It's really hard to talk about this stuff because people think I'm being an asshole.
So I can't go too far into the subject.
But,
uh,
maybe one day I'll write a book and I'll just fucking just air it out.
Um,
but,
we were playing ibnaz because of corn i was playing it because of corn and then
before deathcore was a thing it was just you know a bunch of i'm an idiot trying to
definitely what breakdowns pretty much the most simple way that i could put it um when suicide
songs started playing shows and we started putting out music it seemed like it really seemed like
other bands in the area I just I even
seven strings just pop up
and then we would tour
and like they would have these bands
would basically have identical
to our rigs and it was
fucking crazy to see
but it was the I've been as
seven string it's I mean
it influenced so many bands you want to have
Death Corps wouldn't exist without
the I've been as RG
I've been talking about it
lately man I just want to buy one
I just want to go on eBay like I used to buy this
those like old
RGs
there's one that was
I believe it was a 7420
is to play a bass in Bank Hall Thrush
real quick and then the other guitar player
Jeff he had
he had his guitar
it was a set
it was an RG 7420
and it was a gray pewter
I think is the exact color
so it's dark gray but it's flat
and it looks so sick
and uh
I always ask him if I could buy it and he said no
I think he probably still has it
which is smart
then some years past I found on eBay
I was buying guitars on eBay like it was
candy dude I was just buy them
sell them for no I don't know what I was doing
it's being the time of kid
but I did own it at some point I had a
thing's called cherry
or I think some kind of cherry red
ibnanz which ended up being on the cleansing i should have kept that guitar man so stupid
yeah those i mean those guitars made made the scene what it is i mean without without the ibanance
r g semestring i mean you wouldn't have you wouldn't have the deathcore scene hey jay go uh it's it's
that orange one that one this is the guitar dude that guitar was sounded so
so fucking sick, dude.
I just bite the same one.
Yeah, this guitar was unclensing.
I think Mark used it.
And I took out the bridge and I put in a lungrin
only because of a shugger
because they were hyping.
Yeah, this guitar sounded incredible, man.
And I sold it like an idiot.
I don't even know where it went.
It's gone.
That's it, dude.
Beautiful guitar.
99 RG 7420
Yep
I sold it like an idiot
But yeah
Great question man
And definitely
Open up some memories
But that that guitar is so
I mean
It started everything
Essentially
Our next question
From
Justin Rogers
746
Do you have any plans
Or target date
of quitting playing in metal
or are you going to rock this thing
till the wheel is fall off?
Great question.
It's another topic that like
I guess it's been on my mind more
but it's like you know how long can you go
right?
I just believe that
it was a young
person's game
metal and music and like
you got to be like in your 20s dude
to like do it at a high level.
I mean, if you don't do it, then,
like you're never going to make it, man.
You're never going to make it.
And now that we have hindsight and there's examples, I guess.
I was like, oh, how long can we go?
I can't say who, but I recently was talking to someone that just turned 60.
They were saying, like, man, I don't know.
I won't have five years left, man.
I'm like, don't talk like that.
In my head, I was like, you look good.
good. You're rocking out still. Like it's the 90s, you have a long time left. And I guess I could
apply that to myself. Like, how long can we go? Um, I'm 40. Let's say I, let's say I stopped this
when I'm 60. That's 20. I still have 20 years of rocking left. Um, I remember when the subject
first started to pop up. Um, again, 20s, like, um, watching interviews of like Jim's hitful,
talk about it. Like, the first,
band people tend to bring up is the rolling stones
everyone's always like look at the rolling stones
look at Mick Jagger he's so dancing
I'm listening to Joe Rogan have you seen a
Rolling Stones fucking concert
it seems like Rolling Stones tends to be like this
this band everyone talks about is like how long
can you play music
and then okay now it starts to
trickle down now okay
stones now
now what's the next example I think the next example
would be
ACDC
You know how old are those guys
How old is Angus Young
They're so rocking
He's head-banging still
He's head-banging still
He's head-banging
He's head-banging dude
Like
Angus is going hard as fuck
And
How old is Angus Young?
Let's try to
J's on it
Angus Young
is 71 years old
He was born on March 31st, 1955.
Wow.
71, man.
And years active, I think it said 70.
So, 78, 93, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003.
Man, over 50 years, dude, just fucking rocking.
53 years at least, it's rocking.
So, you know, I'm looking at him.
He's so head-banging, looking good.
The next example will go to Metallica.
I think that would be the next example.
How long could they go?
They're rocking.
Those songs are not easy to play.
It's more...
Metallica is a good example because there is like a physical aspect to it.
How long could Lars go?
Those songs are not...
You can talk shit on all you want.
Those songs are hard to play.
Those are...
It's a lot more physically demanding than, let's say, like a Rolling Stones.
set. So people like me are looking at, you know, how long can
Laura's go? Lars is 62 from when we found out. Born
December, damn, he's born on the 26th day after Christmas. Wow. What a trip.
You know, I'm looking, you know, how long can you play it like that? How long can
James sound that way? It's playing too. The plane is, that's, he's fucking playing guitar, man.
Also, I bring it up is a cannibal corpse.
I'm looking at George and like how long can that motherfucker
just sound that way and look that way.
Very inspiring.
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It's extremely inspiring of what is possible.
And George is 56 years old.
Born July 8th, 1970.
Damn, he hit the 70, dude.
Almost hit 69.
So 56 years old.
head banging hard as fuck
so that's
you know
he is a
a beacon for me
and then
you know
I'm looking at Corey Taylor
McThompson
how are these guys doing it
corn
corn still has a great
Cory Taylor is 52 years old
corn
they're still head banging
I'm loving it
looks good sounds great
um
let's see
how old is John
John David
this is uh 55. I love it.
Damn, he's 55 years old.
Holy shit. Wow.
Um, well, I'm 40. I'm 15 years away.
Uh, then it goes down to like someone like me. Okay, I'm 40. Um, suicide silence.
Much of yeah. I mean, that's a very physically demanding ban. Um, yeah, then you have me.
40 years old, how suicide sounds is a very physically demanding ban, a lot more than basically
everyone else. We kind of took that from corn. Like, we're rocking out like we're in our 20s still.
But the reality is, you know, how long can I do that? I don't know. Based on leaders in the
space that I just talked about, it's probably
longer than
I think
Um
And it seems to be like this legacy crossover where like you kind of like
Okay now you have a great live show some pyro
You don't got to go ape shit anymore
Um
So it's rocking out
I mean as long as I can
As long as I can man
Um
I think with the help of staying healthy
I'm gonna do it as long as I can
put on a good show for all you guys
you pay your hard-earned dollar
on soussauce. I try to
provide the show and then
you know there might be a time
where I can't rock out like that anymore
but we can still rock
how long I guess
it really depends on I think the drums
and how long
Eddie can go
sounding good
so that might be the main one but again
we have the main one but again we have
these really good examples of other vocalists
that are really fucking killing it.
That you could do extreme,
have an extreme voice and, you know,
be up in your 50s and 60.
So,
worst case scenario, dude.
60? 20 years left,
see what that sounds?
And I think that's worst case scenario, dude.
Like, I see people hitting in hitting 70,
maybe 65.
and great a great question it got me thinking because i always look at other people i'm like you
you got so much so much more time left man so much more so much more life um and it could still
be a sick show so yeah justin thank you for your question i really appreciate it um we're
uh round third here some uh some news some new metal news we just hopper
into it. It can't escape my phone, but I keep seeing this Sid Wilson thing pop up and Slop Nott.
Since we're talking about Slip Not so much. This might take a cup of coffee. Okay, so I do have a take
on the Slipknot thing. It's positive. It's positive. What no one talks about was Slipknot and the
members is that
it is nothing
short of a fucking miracle
how long that band has lasted
with nine members.
I'm in a band with four people.
Four humans. That's four humans
too many.
They have a whole other band.
I want to say they had a solid
nine and 99.
I think it's when Jim joined and he was the last
one. So I think we're looking at 99.
the last record with the nine of them was
All Hope is gone
And that dropped in 2008
I think
2008 so it looked 99
And unfortunately that party stopped when Paul Gray
Tragically died
So when did Paul Gray
Passed away
Fucking sucks dude
All right
So 2010
So 99 in 2010
So you're looking at 11 years
of nine psychos
writing that kind of music
torn as much as they did
taking over the fucking planet
dude
it is a miracle
they lasted
11 years
with that
with those nine fucking psychopaths dude
that is crazy
crazy dude
like you did it
like slip mine is set forever man
they are set forever like
never take away those records.
So that's my take on it.
We don't know
coming from a band member,
it's impossible to explain
the interpersonal relationships with the band members
publicly. It's like,
it's its own thing. And there's no
way in hell that I understand
their relationships with each other. No one does.
they probably even know
let alone
people with opinions
I don't believe headlines
I don't believe what people
were saying
no matter what comes out
you will never know
what went down
or the relationships
or like the history
and the past
my bubble
you don't know
there's so much
there's so much history
that goes into
a relationship
with the band
each band is different
And all that history, man.
You're a 90s band.
I can't even imagine money.
Platinum records.
Holy crap, dude.
Again, I was a band with four people.
Four people, too many.
Trying to think,
just to relate to the Suza songs really quick.
Dan Kenny joined in 2009.
And we were the solid five.
Again,
I'm sending a slip knot.
Tragically,
Mitch passed away.
2012
so
I think it was
yeah it was
old 12 it kind of
it still freaks me out how long
how long ago it was
so if it's 2009
2012
um
I'm trying to try to see a date
from yeah
2012
so let's see
09 012 that's 13 years
so
I was in a band for 13 years with five people.
And that's a, I mean, that's what's, that's, people ask you what is successful, that's success.
I mean, the tour of the world to have money, no money, live life, have the relationships, grow with each other.
13 years is the phenomenal run with five humans still doing it.
So I think that's still not's biggest accomplishment.
You know, people whenever know our personal relationships.
But, again, we'll never know what happened with Sid and the band and vice versa.
It's just, it's impossible to know.
Or maybe he sucks.
Who knows?
You know, I met Sid once, cool guy.
You know what else?
There is no love for clown in the early days of suicide sounds.
I would watch interviews with Sean.
And I always saw a little bit of myself in him.
Like his obsessiveness, his intention in detail, his competitiveness.
Like, I've been following his interviews since I was a child up until now.
I still watch his interviews.
I'm like that.
There's something like, this is something there.
And, yeah, I just don't think he gets like the,
appreciation like
because without
he seems like with slip knot
he's that's that's the vision
and to start a band
you need a vision
so yeah okay all these other members are cool
I get it cool all he does is banging a keg
it's if you believe that you have no idea
when it's like start a band
like you need you need that vision
and without that vision there is no slip knot
there's no band
and he would just the way he talks I'm like
something's there
something is there man
and uh
yeah i mean he did
I mean he probably did the best he could
what he had on to go
that long with nine members
and dealing with the personalities
it's again
and then now you have death and loss
and that as a whole other dynamic
that's really fucking hard to
to deal with and even live with in general
um
yeah he's done a great job and no one can do it perfectly nobody um i failed many times so i i totally
get up but yeah just just that vision man you don't it's really hard to understand how a band
dynamic works so yeah that's uh that's my take on it and it's kind of i think my purpose is also
like it's when people would chill out like you don't it's just a headline you don't know you don't
No, dude.
There's so many little details that will never know.
But I hope Sid is okay.
And I hope he's all right.
I will say that one of my dream podcasts is with Clown.
Everyone wants to talk to Corey and the singer, I get it, or the guitar players.
But I want to talk to Clown.
when when the podcast first started
I did email him
to be a guest
and I understand
like we I was just starting
so I didn't get a response
I did reach out
maybe like a year ago or two
through management I remember her back
but I mean
yeah Sean I mean I
you're one of my dream guest
I want to get inside the band
dude just like what just to understand that mind
that's always a conversation I personally wanted to have a split clown.
People always tell me, you know, hit up Corey, hit up Jim or Mick and have the guitar sandwich.
I mean, I have many dreams of the podcast.
I mean, there's many like, oh, do I love to, you know, have like a Slipknot month where one episode, Sean and X Corey to next is Jim or Mick or, you know, like have like a whole month of Slip Not.
you know kind of cool same in corn
I want to have like a corn month or like
it would be so cool to have like a pod with like
uh Corey
uh
clown and ross robinson
with it was like a you know album anniversary
kind of get like the whole kind of story
it should kind of get some insight into what I want to do
might happen might not
I don't know um
kind of my
my dream but uh
I guess I'm saying
publicly, Sean, you got to get on here, man.
Or I guess you want to keep doing those
bubble gum interviews
you've been doing.
Like, dude, as a fan,
like, I just don't resonate with those.
Like, I just,
as a fan, I just want to like,
what, let's just, what is
Slep? Now, do you want the biggest
fucking bands on a planet?
And it's not a great in-depth interview
with any one of you guys? Kind of crazy.
But I will be honored to do it.
It might happen. Might not.
Who knows?
I believe in luck, but I also believe that sometimes things don't happen.
Slipknot is my, I'll say it again.
I mean, it's my second favorite band.
Corn, slip not, and it's probably seven dust.
It's probably seven dust.
That's part of my top three.
So yeah, that's my dream right there.
Slipknot month, corn month.
Those are my two top two.
But again, rounding third again.
Thank you for listening to that rant.
I hope that gives some insight, some insight.
I don't know, as a band member.
Band member to band member.
It's just trying to get some insight.
Outro here.
So before the next solo check-in,
something's going to come out.
Something's going to come out.
I'm really excited.
And I'm really curious on the reaction of said mystery drop.
It will be happening in the next three weeks.
So once you're watching it, see this,
there'll be something coming out before the next solo check-in.
And I'm really looking forward to the reaction.
But besides that, check out Suicide Silence on tour,
November, December, all over North America.
We also have a couple Canadian dates.
We got Montreal, Toronto.
Again, in California, North Carolina, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Oregon, Washington.
We're everywhere.
We're going to, we're chugging across the entire North American region of the planet.
So it's with the mirror, angel maker, and Sanestia.
Again, Byron, I apologize if I can't pronounce your band name.
I have a speech amendment.
Anyway, tickets are in a link in the description below.
There's VIP options.
I'll be honest.
I'll be walking around the show.
I'll be out in the front, the back.
I'll be at the bar, so you can see what's up to me there.
But you want the proper VIP with a full band picture, please check that out.
Shows I will be attending will be, I will be for the first time ever.
I'm wanting to go.
I'll be at the Sound and Fury Festival
in LA
I'm specifically going for no cure
and I'm going to give you a little tease
I'm a future guest
but I'll be there
that'll be August 15th 16th
I'm probably going to 16th
I'll also be going to
Summer Slaughter
slash hate breed at the House of Blues
August 23rd
I'll be there rocking out
September 5th at the Observatory
in Orange County, Santa Ana,
which is here, actually.
I'll be at All Show Parish
to talk shit to Eddie
and check out some sick-ass tunes.
I also want to see Mald.
They'll be playing
Close is on that show,
actually. It's Mald.
My memory's kind of fucked,
dude. Sorry, we're fucking...
all right we got uh...
Carnifax, of course.
I'm an idiot.
Carnifax malls
so uh, that'll be
extermination,
it's memorand,
ex-guests of the pod as well.
That's a fucking,
that's a really good lineup.
So I'll be there
from beginning to end.
I tend to pop in the shows.
I'll admit that.
Pop and pop out,
but I'll be for the whole rig.
And, uh,
yeah,
that's it.
Um,
thank you for the listening and watching.
Thank you for supporting my rants, my sober rants.
My brain's working more every week.
Slowly but surely, we will get there.
Our next guest, next week, it is a band called Drain.
A lot of riffs.
Sammy also, the singer also pops in for a little bit.
And that'll be next week.
All right, that's it.
Love you guys.
