Garza Podcast - 253 - New Album Riffs, Sevendust & 90 Day Goal Fail

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

Garza is back for a solo episode to talk new album, guitar Mount Rushmore & much more!Get ad free episodes, Garza’s guitar tone here: https://patreon.com/garzapodcastSee SUICIDE SILENCE live: https://suicidesilence.store/pages/tour00:00 - New Album Graceless03:41 - Riff: Graceless13:05 - Riff: Make Your Exit20:30 - Pedals Used on New Songs25:00 - Sevendust, Danzig, Weedeater Concerts28:32 - Matt Heafy, Jiu Jitsu30:39 - 90 Day Goal33:06 - New Website Coming33:47 - J Update35:37 - Patreon: Guitar Mt. Rushmore50:27 - Patreon: Top 3 Death Metal Bands56:27 - Patreon: Turning Riffs Into Songs1:04:25 - Patreon: Drinking On Tour?1:06:43 - Patreon: Riffs Before vs After Quitting Drinking1:09:34 - Yogurtland1:10:07 - Upcoming Shows, Hangs1:12:52 - Billy Strings

How are we doing? We live? Barely. Oh my gosh, dude. Not a... Not a sick of the last one, but, uh... You know that even when you had that, like, an annoying, kind of slight headache and stuff he knows,

but, uh, can't be a bitch, dude. Can't be a bitch. Um, good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Welcome back to the podcast. Uh, doesn't seem like it was that long ago when we did a lot solo. But, yeah, all the stuff we've been talking about. It's out there. It's finally out there.

We've got two new songs. We've got Graceless and Make Yourself personally. Thank you for checking out the songs. They seem to be doing well on YouTube. And joke, but not a joke. Climbing the charts on our Spotify, I don't think we had a graceless set number two. And we haven't done that.

ever so kind of cool to be 40 years old and able to put a cool track that people are jamming so this record comes out November 20th to be honest what number record is this seven I don't is this seven I don't was this seven I forgot. Wow. So there's this one and we have, you know what? I'm gonna call it right now.

We have one more bangor in us. We have one more because after the next one, they'll probably be money and older. And it's just reality. You know,

father of time always wins. We have one more bangor in us. So enjoy this one. Enjoy the next one. And then we're going to go downhill. Um, just like everyone you know it's hard to write a fucking banger in your late 40s you know got money you got your own house um but yeah again just thank you for jamming the songs

it was a nice little uh what do you say like uh some kind of recharge some kind of um yeah just uh refilling the refilling the soul so um yeah i came back right in a nick of time. And also thank you for watching the Suicide Silence podcast. That's back as well every two weeks. That came back swinging. You seem to be from what YouTube tells me.

You seem to be joining at as well. So always honored to be a part of your week. So that's on Thursdays. So yeah, I came back right in like again earlier than I wanted to. Um, I was like, I think it was like seven months long little fucking, it's not even, not even, but vacation. I was still doing this thing. And, uh, came back right in a naked time. There was already, um, a studio time booked. Um, which I wasn't happy about, but that's in the past. And, uh, yeah, I had some, uh, ideas. I had some ideas. I had some ideas. And so Graceless was before Make Yourself. Make yourself was, I think we put it out there,

but it's like the, it was the last song we wrote for the record. We liked to call those rush deliveries on Black Crown. That's OCD. Don't Tendombleed. That's disengage. Did the cleansing have a rush delivery? I don't think so. how much I did it?

Hmm. I don't remember. I don't remember that out of rush to leave. It might have, but it's just not coming to me. It might be the, uh, might be the yogurt land from, uh, last night.

That's infected my memory. But, uh, yeah, so graceless was like this, um, let's just freaking hop into it, dude. Graceless was, um, a concept more than like,

of riff It was just like I forgot what particular guest it was But we just did a podcast here And then like I was just inspired And I was just like man It'll be so fucking cool to like Just have a song that opens up

It's like shun Shorn Shorn Shon Jahn It's like a blast Or some kind of weird chaos It's chaos And that was like

Now it's more like I guess you could say a rip I guess we'll kind of find out A real time once I play it But I kind of want to show you something. I'm not sure this is the original one because I have an older one. But this is, I have my voice recordings here or voice memos or whatever you want to call it. But I just realized the date, December 25th, this is Christmas.

So Christmas, I'm chugging. I've been in this room on Christmas, sleeping on the floor. Christmas Eve. So it doesn't surprise me. Holy Shee, this is Christmas. December 25th, 2005. This is going to sound terrible,

but this is, let's see if you guys could hear this. I was probably in bed. Yeah. I might have been somewhere quiet and it hit me. So like, if you have an idea, he just got to like kick it out.

I was just like, John, Vajon, just like super prime. just reptilian shit. And I think I have this is an other one. So this is

I think I'm hanging out with the guys at this point. This is March 16th, 2012, let's see what this is. I'm kind of playing with the pedal too. So it's just kind of messing with like the super, I mean, that's distortion, right?

I mean, I don't, it's just over the top, fuzz. And, yeah, I mean, I would, I guess, thinking about it now, I will call it, you know, I think it's, I mean, I think it's a riff. I mean, I've learned from this thing that people call riffs different things. I think if you're playing something, I think, I think it's a riff. But, yeah, I remember just like fucking around with this. disgusting tone just like over the top and uh and it's all it's oh again it's always the hardest thing but how do you make it stupid excuse me how do you like how do you make it as simple as possible and just get the fucking emotion across um and then i started messing around and made it

as simple as possible so here's a uh here's a uh example. Yeah, so just kind of mess around with the chugs. Originally, like, kind of like the pattern evolved from bludgeoned. It was like, it was too much like bludgeon. So it was like, how do we make it more simple? Like, it's like too bludgeoning. So we kind of took out a couple of chugs and made even more stupid and simple. Just kind of let like the tone, um, you know, I like to, um, use like the tone as a tool to actually, create the riff. And that's like a pretty good example with like letting let the pedal do like the work.

Um, to create the sound. And, uh, yeah, and then just fucking just stay here. Stay here. I think Mark came up with the next pattern.

And then it just, uh, in suicide sounds fashion, just kept it. Which I'm going to go into the subject later because it is actually a, a question I got. Excuse me. Um,

about song. writing but yeah okay it's like kind of let the song kind of dictate where where your hand goes and that's this is kind of like a perfect example i'll show you it's like oh then now wait it's the the fucking so literally like like the hand is staying here because that's what the song wants i mean my my brain wants it to go somewhere else but just let the fucking riff kind of i can't find the word just kind of let it just let the heart just keep your hand where it should

and then I just let I mean just and then you make it in suezza sounds fashion let the fucking pause just stop the riff and the pause lets it breathe like I mean I don't know you can't really get more I mean can't really get more primal than that so yeah I hope uh and also

something that we fought for is we've been telling Ernie our drummer for like a fucking over a year, maybe even longer like I want like give me a gravity give me a gravity blast and he hates him

but man like some the song calls for it is fucking how about the two extremes like a stupid chug with like a crazy drum over here like that like kind of dimension is like kept saying it you're gonna do gravity here

you're gonna do gravity here you're gonna do gravity he wouldn't do it and finally were at the studio the drums and so where's so where's the gravity and uh it fucking fit dude yeah um again you know

seems like um seems like you're all digging a song uh Austin Coopin Hunter Young is fucking killed it as far as like the production side and uh

just embodying the chug maxing embodying like the chug maxing life we need t-shirts but uh i don't know if you could perfect chug-maxing better than that it's just

that's that's fucking chug maxing and uh see that that shit was written less than a fucking less than day those are kind of like those are those tend to be the best one

And then Years ago When Alpha Wolf dropped that Fucking I have right here The noise pedal On the Tong was nice enough And the guys sent me one

And I've been jamming that thing Constantly So this kind of like Reminds me of smoke but I don't need Which I actually brought him here I'll show you guys the pedals in a minute Oh shit Like

This is like four pedals and a one where i need like all these pedals to do like this one sound you know it was cool just press like one button and like there it is it's like this um probably sounds stupid to say but i say a lot of stupid shit so it's fine honest adds like this it like breeds like i like i like wami parts that breed it's like this it's not like a flat sound it's just kind of like and that's what i like about the noise pedal that uh the whammy by itself cannot do you need other their pedals to kind of give it some life. And then make your exit.

Again, it was just a fucking, it was a rush delivery. And I have another voice memo for you is, uh, this was like the early stages of, uh, because I knew we were going to write a song that day. So that morning, you know, woke up in my room, got the coffee, hang out my cat outside, went back, started riffing. and went back on my line 6 spider and uh so this is may 14th 2006 so what it's probably sound terrible this is freestyle freestyle what do you what I'm doing so that's kind of like to literally like that's literally like what

you're hearing is nothing's written it's what happens like what happened like what what's going to happen when like you just plug in you're not thinking of them your hands start moving and that kind of triplet and double fucking top string bend just kind of flew out and then uh yeah brought it to and then actually no this is this came first and all right let's fucking start jamming a riff dude let's just start jamming and uh it's crazy how you could play with a pedal dude for so long and nothing comes out and then the moment you need to write something

fucking flies out and then I remember being in the in the rehearsal space with the guys in this fucking riff literally just fucking flew out dude it just like this wasn't like a written riff like just out of nowhere I'll play for you guys

and then our urnion just came in with this fucking blast beat and well that's it it's like this stupid riff just fucking flew out And it's oh shit that kind of goes along with Oh yeah I was jamming that triplet top string riff This morning that might go after

And uh It was a weird timing Like uh Watch I'll show you It was uh let's see Like it wasn't like a It wasn't like you hear it now So we kept it that way because we couldn't make it more simple

Like it just wasn't hitting us so we kept like this off-time verse kind of riff going and it wasn't until like hunter and austin helped us just made it more simple like they made it like dun dun dun bam one two three when we had it like a more like a musha-a-tig-type and again like just like graceless it's like um since i was a child kind of keep the hand there and it's classic suicide sounds so it says all right This is, and that shit just flew out of me. Like, what, I didn't, I always say, like, I didn't, I didn't write that. Like, something else fucking, it's so, it's easy.

Literally, I'm not moving. It's just, it's just there. Kind of like an unanswerer throwback. Yeah, then we have like this, and Ernie had the idea. of like a 20th century fox breakdown and it's fucking worked. It just the fucking, I don't have the

right, the right pedal for it but it was another like disgusting pedal we had, me like the swollen pickle or something. It's such a fucking disgusting riff like the fucking like we're bending on the first fret. My

gate can't handle the fucking yeah, it was pretty fucking And that's it. And then the song ends, right? So that's the first two singles that you hear. Just want to give a little back story on them. Kind of hearing like the birth of like the starts off a little line six spider riff. Concept, the voice memos.

And oh yeah, real quick. So the noise that you hear, I almost forgot like a. Fucking idiot, dude. I'm sorry. That means I need more coffee. So silence brought you by coffee. So what you hear, because I wanted to give it some,

some character and just, you know, nice little suicide sounds, no time of bleed throwback. We use noise pedal, but also, it's also a blend with the old school pedal. So these are the pedals I use for no ton of bleed smoke.

It's that whammy effect back in the day because noise didn't exist I used this fucking electronic electrohormonics electronic mistress and it's a flanger and chorus in one pedal

and I really liked, I still liked the chorus a lot on this for some reason excuse me, it's one of my favorite choruses so it's why I got it I heard Monkey used it and I don't think he does. I think I's I got the wrong pedal so I got this on accident

but I don't know I kept it I love the course and yes as you can see it's all beat up and shit it's the exact pedal so used the chorus was obviously the fucking whammy the digite whammy

classic two ock is up um I mean a lot of people a lot of people know you know this pedal and a little bit same delay

electric harmonics number one echo digital delay um it looks like very like minimal it's like kind of it's just there it's like kind of a kind of like a flavor i guess you could say and this is a secret too

um this digitech diggy verb it's obviously a reverb pedal um this thing has a glitch in it because it has six different settings that might that might be better

and setting number six is a reverse effect and I remember what was when I was fucking around with the also these are also the same pedals I use for lifted to get the the octave lower effect actually the complete opposite of what I'm talking about now um so with with this one when you put it on reverse and the level all the way up there's like a glitch that happened that's a really cool thing about pedals where like the thing that fucks up is actually what you want you know and yeah that's how that's how smoke was written

um these four pedals going and like it created like this swell this fucked up high pitch swell that I loved like so uh I think also

then not all digy verbs do that I think it's only with the older ones I think you buy a brand annual one it doesn't do that so it is kind of one of those snobby pedals pedal tricks you got to get like the right era of it so the glitch of this

really fucking cool it has so much shit has a room plate hall church gated and spring that's basically kind of seven petals and one I mean that's a lot so yeah I brought back the pedals

did the same the same trick and then we just stacked them and that's what you hear so it's extra extra fucked up for you so again yeah thank you for jamming nose tunes

I want to give you guys a little little backstory what else what have I been doing what's up everybody real quick if you don't like these ads join our Patreon you get these episodes ad free I'm talking you press play

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That's patreon.com slash gaza podcast. Or click the link in the description below. See you there. I want to see Seven Dust and Riverside with my lady. shout out to Kevin and the team the seven dust team it was at the Riverside Municipal Auditorium and next door is the mission inn which is where Mitch got married

it's a really historic hotel they don't let metalheads in there when there's a show next door but I think because I was with a hot chick they kind of let me in And there's a really cool bar in there. It's kind of hidden. So me and my lady went in there. It was empty. It was so nice.

And this is why I'm bringing it up. Yeah, I sat down. We got a non-alcoholic hyniken. And I remember just like, I was sitting there just looking at it. I'm like, wow. If this was six months ago, I'll literally be two shots deep. and the IPA getting ready for

salmon dust one of my top free favorite bands in the hometown I'm getting hammered I remember just sitting there like wow how times have changed

and just remember I look just looking at this fucking beer like wow like you know I think we talked about it on like the last one you know

kind of like remembering how far you've come you know and I was like wow so I'm a lady, I'm like, wow, this was six months ago, I'll be hammered right now. You know, I'll do the embarrassing, hey, can you drive me home? I drove us here, can you join me home?

I'm about to see Seven Dust. And I need to consume a large amount of alcohol. But I remember, yeah, feeling pretty proud. Like, you ever have that shit? Like, just kind of look back and like, wow, I'm a fucking different person. But the show is insane. It was fucking awesome. And, uh, seven dust is kill.

as always. They're having a like a TikTok thing and seeing that people sing to dial was like pretty fucking cool. And I want to give what other show did I go to? I saw Danzig at the at the Honda Center.

I just want to give him a quick shout-up because dancing was sick. And I think that's what we all want to see, right? When we see like a nostalgic actor, a big, man or a small man, it doesn't really matter. We just want to see if they see if they still have it

and came out, just like head banging and like moving around. I was like, this is, this is cool. This is what, if you're a fan,

this is what you want to see. It was awesome. I just want to give them a quick shout out. I felt, um, I felt inspired when I saw him up there. I was just, this is what you want to see.

You want to see like dressing a certain way that built the big belt buckle, the fucking way he holds the mic. I was that, that's kind of fine too. Then, uh,

Costa Mesa. I saw a weed eater I believe the venues called The Wayfair It's more like a bar So I got super doomed That's also a hint of who's coming up On the pod

So shout out to wheat eater And taking care of me It was a fucking sick out show I'm sure you've all seen Me get choked out by my Matt Hafe Everyone gets the name wrong

That's why we made a fucking clip out of it. Everyone says his name wrong. Matt Heafy. Everyone says Matt Heafy, but my brain is programmed to say Matt Heafy. But, uh, yeah, so I got choked out by him. That was cool. And, uh, yeah, I've been, uh, I've been, uh, boxing the past two months.

Feeling pretty good. Um, my leg work is pretty fucking up there. I'm ready to kick some ass. And then once that's more solid I'm going straight up like with Matt really solidified like I got I got the bug I want to learn more

I want to learn a JGIS you for sure just so you're all aware what you saw that was my second time ever in my life doing anything like that about six months prior I was on the mat someone teaching me like basics

and that was like I didn't know like nothing this one hour just not know what I'm doing so this what you see is like I don't know what I'm doing and what better place to do it than on the internet for everyone to see

but I just want to say real quick also Matt's a great teacher they're very limited time to explain to someone like myself that knows nothing and to guide me through it on camera was actually pretty impressive on his part

because that could have been pretty bad but he's a very good teacher um so yeah what you see is my second time rolling ever and uh well yeah what better place than than YouTube if I look like a fool I fucking don't don't really care but uh

okay this is my last update and then we'll get into some questions but uh okay My 90 day goal is a fucking disaster. I'm eating like shit, which is hints as why I'm kind of stuffy right now. But that happens, right? Like your life, what, you ever look back at your day?

Like, what happened to my day? It's gone. What the fuck happened to the day? It's just, I don't know. I don't know. Your day just disappears. Some of you have families, have kids, so it's even harder for you guys. We work full time.

and your day just disappears, you're overwhelmed. And, uh, the best, the best way to comfort that is food. I get it. I get it. Man,

when the day is over, you're like, I'm just gonna eat like shit. I don't care. So I'm gonna put that goal and hold. Um, you're, I'm gonna learn a real time how to fix it and then I'll share that with,

with all you, but there's too much shit going on in life. And, uh, yeah, I'm learning in real time. And to wrap this up This happened this week to me

I just want to share it real quick It's just Okay so You ever look in the mirror And like what the fuck happened You ever do that I looked in the mirror I was like I looked at my chin

Here in a bathroom For some reason that the bathroom here That the mirror is very clear I don't know what it like It accentuates all your flaws I don't know what it is And I was like What the fuck happened to my chin

like the gray hairs have doubled and I don't remember that from the day before I was like oh my guys it's happening quick it's happening quick um is that ever ever happen to you or am I am I tripping but uh that was that was a nice reality check and I'm definitely not going to be one of those guys that gets the just for men if I turn gray you're all you're all going to see it and I'm just going to fucking accept it But man, let's look at my dude This shit fucking doubled It doubled

Oh god I don't know I don't know what's going on anymore I don't know It's kind of tripping me out I guess in real time But uh And also last update is

We're wrapping up our website You can't really see it right now But uh behind the scenes There's a whole website being built Uh it's very Theovon inspired Uh, it's going to be A place where You can submit

questions audio video calling leave voicemails to answer here in the pod so that's being built on kind of update today it might actually be done so that's going to come in very soon where people can kind of a little hub where people can throw in some some voicemails so uh that's kind of cool so keep out for that and last uh how's uh how's jay doing i'm good man just chilling just drinking my coffee here about to edit this bitch oh yeah probably go to the

from first to last show later tonight oh that's today huh yeah oh shit that's cool yeah I'm gonna go on a nostalgia kick just go fucking sing the songs I grew up listening to you know that's gonna me a sick ass fucking show man

it'd be cool it's right here at House of Blues hell yeah Yeah, my wife is debating whether she wants to go or not, so I guess we'll see. Yeah, you won't know until last minute. Yeah, see how tired she is after work and stuff. Yeah, sometimes when you're done working, I don't want to do shit. Yeah, so she's like either you go by yourself or I'll let you know.

Nice. So that's that. Going to shows by yourself is fucking sick. Yeah, I don't mind it. I like doing shit by myself. Yeah. I like being by myself. It's nice.

Yeah. and you can leave when you want. Yeah. It kind of forces you to be, I don't know, talk to people, I guess, maybe. Yeah. It's either you're just weird and alone or you're free.

And you're just like, hey. Totally. That'd be cool. Be a bunch of emoes packed into one spot tonight. People are going to be crying. Oh, yeah. Sick, bad, man. I'm glad they're still around.

Yeah, they're fucking popping, dude. It's sick. Yeah, they came about. It's pretty sick. well hell yeah man um ready for some questions our first ones okay so just uh give a little backstory to the first question this has been so this could be a part two to a question that i answered at this point might have been over a year ago um and it's been bugging me ever since i'll be driving here i'm like fuck i fucked up um so just so you know

um jonesy 97 asked what is your guitar mount rushmore so we had a question like this similar and I gave a top four

and uh it wasn't until after it was posted I was driving I'm like oh my God I didn't say this person or that person oh no and it's been bothering me ever since so this is my time to redeem myself.

Because I gave like a, it's like a Mount Rushmore of rhythm guitar players. And I'm trying to remember what it might be lower. No, it's not, it's not that one. It's the actual Mount Rushmore.

It's literally like what it's called. So obviously, it's two years ago. This is two fucking years ago. So obviously, pick Monkey. I think we picked Johnny Ramon, right? And then we picked,

uh, I don't, did we do these time stamps? Oh yeah. And we picked Dick Dale, huh? Wow. Okay,

so we did Johnny Ramon, Malcolm Young, Dick Dale and, uh, Monkey, right? Is that, is that who I picked?

Okay, so this is my time to redeem myself. And a name I didn't say last time. So I'm going to do another four. And I'm not going to say the obvious one because I already said a monkey Yeah, so that's that that that's obvious and the name I didn't say last time that was has them bothering me Which I thought was last year's two fucking years ago. Oh my goodness dude I was like. Oh my gosh, you idiot

You didn't say Dino from Fear Factory you piece of shit So Matt Rushmore a rhythm guitar player's Dino for Fear Factory like 100% dude it's kind of almost impossible to do a top four because you're going to leave somebody out but the top was Dino Gazzar as from Fear Factory I mean I'll be riding your riffs dude still and like oh this sounds like D-Manufacturer

like I'll be I'll listen to that record and like oh shit he was doing this like way before me like like the low tuning seven string kind of no that sounds like a riff I would write but he already did it I mean you're talking about one of the best right hands in the game um I took a lot of tips from him like he came in the idea of putting weight on your wrist

and on your fingers to get a to get a better chug and that's a tip I got from him but dude he is I mean obsolete is just one of the it's one of my favorite records. I mean, it's one of the flags here. I mean, we'll put a picture of it later. But a Fear Factory obsolete is one of the flags up in this room.

And I'm like, how can I have that flag hanging? And say your Mount Rushmore, not say, Dino. I was like, oh, Garza, you fucking idiot, dude. I had to say it, dude, it's been bothering me for two years. Literally, I'd be driving up here. I'm like, how did you not say, Dino? The first time I heard shot. I was like oh that was it dude I heard shock edge crusher and then I went to the warehouse music and bought that record I've been jamming it ever since it's still unconstant I still put it on I'll be at the gym and I get just get taken back it's like it's very rare where you're putting a record and front to back it's just like what the fuck every song every riff you're just like what the fuck dude that's one that's one of those records so

Part 2, Mount Rushbourne. Dean Gazzar is... I feel like I have, like, a weight lifted off my chest right now, man. It doesn't bother me. How do you fucking idiot? But, uh... Right, who would be... Oh, I got it.

Oh, Jay, I got... I got the second one. It's a good one. And the cops outside, no. We got... We got sirens outside. But, uh... You know who no one talks about, dude?

And they're my top three favorite band. We talked about the drummer last solo. Seven dust. Dude, Clint is a fucking beast, dude. Clint and John, like, bro. And I wonder we could like, we should probably like combine them. Clint and John, I'm gonna combine them. Or maybe do a three, two and three.

Like, no one really ever talks about their playing stuff. But man, everyone rips off seven dust. It's just like, I remember seeing that years ago. I'm like, man, every metalcore band is like ripping out seven dust. So it's kind of cool to see them get like their recognition. But I've played those songs. Like you listen to like denial. There's like these little nuances and like intricacies.

I'm like, oh, I can't even like. Like, I'm a new metal guy. I, I, I, I, I, I could barely play him. Same at home, a waffle. I still can't play Rumblefish. And I've been playing it with Alex, our previous drummer. Since no time of bleed days, we'll like open up. Well, like, either get ready to write a record or we're getting ready for a tour.

Like, he'll just start playing that beat. And then I was like, I'll just join him. I don't I still don't know that fucking pattern. I'll try. You know what? Just because I make a fore on myself. Let's just. It's like, what is that pattern, dude?

The fucking. I don't know that pattern. Like, what is that fucking pattern? Real quick, I was trying to do a play-through of that song. I was going to post it on Instagram. And I trashed it because it sounded so bad. I can't get that pattern. So it sounds easy, but we actually sit down and fucking learn that pattern.

I don't know it. Yeah, awesome song. Those, I mean, Clint and John are just goaded. I wonder if I should combine them as one? No, you know what? Let's, let's, I can't even put them at two or three. They're both like, I mean, they just created the sound. So they're both tied for two and three.

Clint and John your fucking go to dude. This is funny how we're just talking about Morgan on the last one, but number four, am I going to fucking ruin my life? Am I going to say something stupid and regret it for another two years? Oh, number four. What? I'm out Rushmore. Number four. Oh my gosh, dude.

I'm sweating. The AC in here has been fucked up. I'm not sure what happened. But, uh, number four. Oh Oh, I don't know It's going to be number four piece of shit Oh my gosh

I think the last one The first one was more like It was well-rounded Like with monkey Malcolm Dick Dale Kind of gave up the full spectrum Of like rhythm playing This is more geared towards me

So Dino, John Clint I've already talked about West I've already talked about Mike Belt Rush. What my good. I know the reason why I'm not saying a name right now I just know there's someone I'm not thinking of and

if I don't say it, it's going to bug this fucking shit out of me and I don't want to cheat and and go my phone. I do have a name in my head. I'm debating on saying it or not. I'm debating

I should just say it, huh? I just fucking say it. Alright, I got it. I think I got it. Okay. I got it. Okay. Number four, Darren from System.

I said it. Dude, toxicity is fucking just insane. Yeah, I spent a lot of time learning system songs like, I think my favorite is needle. I really like that clean verse. You know, again, like the, you listen to it. It's like really,

like really catchy songs and, you know, like, oh, they do like radio hits and stuff. And then once you actually sit down, you know, like I'm tuning to drop C or,

or, or, um, and I'm learning like needle. I'm like, I can, I'm not playing it right. I'm just,

I'm like missing something. It's like, that's like, was always fascinating to me about like the the whole genre um but that record is full of wrists

I'm like do one fucking person wrote this shit one person wrote this record dude and uh a song I learned recently when I say recently I mean like the past year

like 12 months is uh what's that song called it's not the first record it's the last track I want to say it's pluck I want to say it's pluck

or it's like a capital words I think yeah but that that bridge is just like I don't know it just fucking gets me and there's a couple of like leads on that record

I'm like I try to learn and I just don't have it it's like it's like a feel that Darren has that uh I guess it's this fun it's just fun to try to try to like mimic it

but it's pretty much impossible yeah and what's crazy about songs like from system or seven dust is like even more so like not a lot of good covers on youtube i've debated dude like posting covers on youtube i'm like do always covers suck like how do you say this like guitar players that are really good tend not to be learning these kind of songs and post it on youtube like you know someone has to do it and I might be the guy. Be out like trying to learn

Sitsam songs or seven dust songs or like oh no fucking Power Man 5,000 like this is not like tap root. There's like no like great covers out there. Hepp E. It's like all like that whole umbrella there's just not good covers out there. But I mean

if you learn those songs are really fun to play. They're really fucking fun to play. So as I'm talking I mean other names popped up fuck alright I'm gonna save it for a part three I already have names in my head

for the next one fuck oh sucks it sucks when you put it in like a number but uh yeah I missed a big one oh whatever well

I'll post my Mount Rushmore part three next year after I get really depressed okay so first one dino check out obsolete

this is one of my favorite records of all time um Clint and john from seven dust home is my top um and daren from system if i was to pick one it'll be toxicity and uh

but i put on that first record pretty often too but if I had to choose with a gun in my head I'll pick that one so there's some shit for you to check out that's my personal Mount Rushmore thank you Jonesy 97 from YouTube

I really appreciate your question I'm trying to fucking condense this shit I'm sorry so second one all right Jay I might need help with this one Giancarlo Thank you

I wasn't even fucking close and I'm gonna put myself in a weird spot again That's what we do It's like I don't care of the decor or not all right top three definal bands number one is easy

skinless foreshadowing our demise is my favorite death metal record and their first one progression towards evil is not literally I heard I think it's the track two

on the first record progression I think it's extermination of my filthy species When I heard that That was the first skinless song I heard And that it literally changed my fucking life For sure

It's one of those records I literally print out the logo that day And I put it on my fucking High School folder Proud I'm just fucking Noah Their guitar player says Groovin dude

Tugging grooving Um Really fucking inspiring Um So if there's I'm they're number one like by far and this is where it gets hard I'm gonna put myself on a spot again

who if I'm jamming also like the cover is fucked up is people hanging I have that t-shirt's pretty sick if I'm jamming death metal what do I want to hear I am putting myself in a word spot right now

because I have it in my head and I'm debating how I'm going to say it because it's probably going to come out wrong I want to say I wish I wasn't sick and my brain was firing my brain processing power isn't optimal my current state

but a definite record I love is cannibal corpse the bleeding I saved my lunch money for a week and I went to warehouse music again and I fucking bought that record. It was fucking I loved it. Do you strip rip and strangled on my or stripped

grape and strangled? I'm trying to get to monetize right now. But that shit was fucking sick, dude. It's really cool to get that backstory from from Chris. That was a really cool moment. You don't know. I'm talking about Chris shared. Chris Barnes shared his story. How he wrote

those lyrics? and so I will put cannibal corpse up there that's how I'm gonna say it um every era of cannibal is sick and I think that's what makes them so unique and still top dogs

they're still the top dogs dude george that's been carrying that fucking torch man and it's fucking sick if you watch cannibal it's I mean they're the top definitely band still on a planet fucking awesome um they would go on to

release it was George that's fucking sick too but when I bought this record you was like oh this is you know sometimes like it sounds silly but when you put on a record

you just want it to be like you know what I'm going to move for death metal what's a death metal record and he's like put on the the classics and you're like oh okay yeah this is sick right number three I have a

one in my head already. And I'm trying to think in real time if I'm missing something, which I probably am. I'm going to say top three, death money. I have it in my head. But I'm trying to think about missing something. Or might be like last time where

it comes to be as I'm saying the third one. But on my head is eternal suffering. If you're only in tragedies a fucking phenomenal record. We talked about it. with a reverent. That's why I tuned to drop G.

Literally, I was jamming this shit. And when we were doing the, literally the first ever suicide songs demo, this is pretty much. This is, when we had a Lod Juice, studios in Riverside, which at the time was like the spot

to record your demo. I always jamming this record. I was like, fuck it. I tuned my Jackson Rhodes to Drop G the night before. Because it's felt right. And, yeah, they were really big on, they were really big for me. Like, just chugging, death metal, thrash blast, the whole dynamic.

So that is my personal. They need to release some more, uh, some more merch. Because I'm not the only one talking about them. So, uh, you got, you got to capitalize, dude. You got to capitalize on that shit. All right. So skinless, Kenema corpse. and eternal suffering are my top three.

And I'm sure someone's going to call me a poser, but I don't care. And cool. I think we're ready for the next question. Matthew Sears 4044. Any methods to take a sick riff and build a song around it? And as I was saying earlier, this is the question that I prepped up. So I gave you kind of a taste earlier. But songwriting is tough and building off a riff is still very surprisingly tough because songwriting to me is a fucking mystery, man.

It's just a mystery. Like where riffs come from, where songs come from. and then when you have a sick riff, what do you do with it? But some good examples of what has worked for, I mean, guess me, because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, but an answer will be a good example.

We could hit pretty much the opposite spectrum of eras. We could talk about the new record and the first. So to go back to your question, let's see, like, you have like a riff, and I've said this many, times but man just getting your brain

out of the way um it's still a struggle dude I'm gonna be 41 years old and I'm still struggling with uh getting the brain out of the way

something you have a fucking sick riff and it's like and then or a riff comes out or someone tells you to play something and then you have this riff this riff is just born okay now what um

so for like an answer you have like the fucking uh so it's okay what do you do with that? I think I have a... Oh, that's what happened. I have a double octave on my tone right now. I was like, what is that?

There it is. So if my guitar sound like shit, the whole podcast, that's why. But whatever. We have this riff. It's like, oh, shit, now what? And then, like, the hands kind of will... It's so weird. It's like, what happened?

And then I remember, like, just... I don't know where this other rip came up. Okay. And it's kind of like keeping the hands where the riff already is, is a nice challenge. And then like kind of switching like the pattern. That kind of let that spark, that spark. When it's there, it's there. So then I remember like we'd stop and then we started tugging again.

So as you can see, still in the same kind of area of where that first riff came. And then okay, we had that riff and then, okay, we need to separate the tremlo to the next chug. Okay, we'll stay right here. Like, kind of staying there, you know, just kind of letting like the tremlo, the harmonics kind of choose themselves, if that makes any sense. And then the song happens. Okay, what do you do for the outro? Oh, I don't know. What was that pattern that we did before?

Add a pause. Just adding a pause, change the riff. It's like, oh shit, what we, I mean, we need an outro still. Let's just keep that pattern. And then stay there. And instead of, instead of having,

the movement, keep it one, one fucking fret, dude. So it's kind of stays, a song would kind of stay in a certain area or a certain mood. And just fucking, just staying there. Still to this day, it kind of blows me away. But that's a pretty good example. A song like a, like a graceless. the song calls to stay here but my mind wants to come in and change it all up like what is it oh you got to oh you got to do this sometimes sometimes the heart calls for excuse me it calls for

a key change but sometimes like what's what's best for the song does the i mean the key change sounds good to your brain but actually this i mean it's keep it here but my mind wants to do this I just want to keep it It might call for it if the song calls for it do it But if it doesn't which it didn't I want a short fucking banger Keep it down here I want to head bang the whole time

And then the next Rip is still there It's kind of the state It's just kind of staying there And that's kind of some methods That have worked For us For me personally

Just kind of let in like the song If you have I guess they call it like the meat and potatoes I mean if you have that one dude it's kind of the hardest part man

like if you if you have that one dude the rest will kind of follow then trusting trusting that something else will come out of like thin air essentially you just kind of just trusting the momentum of the riff

and then scam whether you're yourself or you're with a drummer or something just it's usually that first thing that flies out after the main riff it's kind of what stays like it it's kind of funny like those those initial sparks dude it's this i still don't know i i don't know where where they come from if that's from practicing a lot if that's from uh not knowing what you're doing i i don't know it's just you had that riff start playing more you start playing off it

and then something else just fucking flies out you're like oh shit there it is but it's usually that first spark that first variation of the main riff that tends to kind of stick

and then the song will spill from there but hopefully that that helps I was trying to condense it for you but I think we're ready for I think we're going to do we're gonna skip this one

I'm gonna go with the yeah let's do number five I think I got this JDCTX acoustic I mean that's probably the best I can do

is it going to be hard not drinking when you when you tour definitely not I've crossed over man I don't even crave it dude I don't create alcohol anymore. I'll tell a little story. Literally,

it's why I'm sick. I was at 7-Eleven. And the dude there was very nice. He offered me a fresh pizza. He was like, just stay here for three minutes. I'll make you a fresh one.

I'm like, yeah. I'm not going to say no of that. And I was this I was looking at they had any non-acoholic options which they do not and I was just looking at the alcohol there I'm like damn my eyes is

look at this shit and pick what I wanted and drank it and I was just looking and it's like at the fucking fridge it's like not one temptation in a weird way it kind of made me sick

I don't know I've already fully crossed over I'm very lucky crossed over I'm very lucky And now in that regard I'm not tempted Drinking's fun But I'm looking forward to going on tour

And not drinking I'm actually not The problem is going to be fucking eating like shit That's what I'm worried about I know it's not like exciting To say that But

Like how am I going to avoid Those snacks How am I going to avoid McDonald's at midnight that's the that's the main issue but not going to be hard at all it's going to be pretty

pretty easy really but I appreciate you asking that and we'll do one more question the very next one it's the same subject so I thought I thought it kind of made sense

Jay I'm needing your help with this one for sure Dikini Ooh 88 has has your riff riding changed at all since you stopped drinking

oh yeah oh fuck yeah dude it's um man I don't want to say fuck saying that there's clarity isn't right

um I guess not drinking is gay room for ideas to come out if that makes sense I mean Yeah, make your exit

wouldn't exist If I was drinking Kind of like Leaving room for There's just room For sure to come out More time in a day I guess

You're not waking up Hungover or Um So more days Feeling inspired I guess Just had just more room Um

I found that more riffs came out in the morning when I wasn't hungover or something. So that was interesting. So make your exit wouldn't exist. Graceless wouldn't exist. If I was drinking. So whatever that sounds like,

you know, I didn't drink in the early days. So those demos, the EP, which people tend to gravitate towards right now with the revival, the cleansing. I was, I was sober. Didn't drink until I was 20. So I was kind of like returning to what we already did

But uh It might be just age too like I don't know you gotta do the things that have more energy really And uh yeah I can't imagine going back um I'm already having ideas For if we do Another uh batch songs I'm already inspired I guess I don't know

This is more time than day I guess So there's more time in the day more time to be inspired, more time to play. But it's hard to deny when I'm seeing, like, the numbers. I'm seeing people jam those two songs, and those two songs wouldn't exist if I was shrinking. So that's all I had to go by. So pretty fucking, pretty fucking sick, man.

I think we're good. Sorry, I'm a little bit stuffy. It's what you get when you're at fucking yogurt land. I just fucking is getting that. Oh, so good. They have those little, I don't know what they're called. They're like these little bubble things, little fruit bubbles. Like, I'm just into those, man.

And they eat them and they pop. It's like a fucking, I don't know what they're, it's amazing. But we'll already be there. This comes out, but I'll just say it anyway. but I'm going to Chavelle this Saturday at the Honda Center. That's September 3rd, so that we passed, but I'll be there with my lady. I don't take my lady to make any shows, but this one's very called for. It's chill.

I'll be at the Chad Gray show at the Observatory, September 6th. I'll be there rocking. I'm going to try to go to the Soulfly show. the whiskey and go-go September 8th. I'm really doing my damnness to be there. And

suicide silence will be at Furnace Fest so if you're going to that or you're around the Birmingham, Alabama area, that's September 11th.

We're playing with bringing the horizon. A lot of cool bands. So that's going to be a big show for us. So if we're going on that, cool. Stay what's up.

I'll be around. Also, that got announced since the last check in solo. Me and Jerry will be at the Headbanger's boat. We'll be there October. It's October 30th and November 3rd. That's the Lamb and God in flames. Zach Wild is going to be there. I'll be doing one live podcast with Osho Parish.

Their guitar player is Chris Dorrie and Ben. So that'll be fun. the first ever life podcast that we'll be doing and I'll probably do one more. I'm still thinking. I think we got it, but so yeah, I'll be, I'll be,

let's see, that's Miami and the Bahamas. We're gonna do a podcast in the Bahamas. That's fucking sick. And, yeah, as I always say, uh, suicide sounds going on tour,

a mirror, angel maker Sinastia Full U.S. November through December It's a long one Um tickets are going

First show is a hometown Riverside Where I just saw 7 dust Starts November 6 Ends December Uh I believe 13th it ends It's 1720

So starts the home Ends the home Pretty fucking sick So I'll leave a link In the description Why not along with our check out the Patreon

keep this shit alive the expenses are fucking insane so Patreon is a great way to support I know a lot of people don't let the ads

ad free I'll be doing live streams and shit there and all right how am I am I going to say this so this is how we sign off

I like teasing or like saying the next guest Um So this guest has been requested, oddly enough. And, uh, it happened. And, uh, he might have been the most talented musician we've had on the podcast. So, uh, next week is, it's already done. Uh, I'll see you for Billy Strings.

We, uh, we jam some acoustic stuff. We talk about drugs. Uh, metal he jammed the seventh string yeah i mean it had everything i i it was it was fucking i got my own private show just looking at i play acoustic i do it's fucking his playing style dude it's just i'm trying to understand but i'll talk about out on the next little probably but his playing style is i mean that's a level of talent that i don't think i ever seen uh in person before so pretty sick i'll see you next week for billy strings

And yeah, that's it, forever love. See you.