Garza Podcast - 31: SUICIDE SILENCE

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

Suicide Silence is in the studio! We talk about recording the new record "Remember...You Must Die" The whole band getting Covid, being a new drummer and much more. SPONSORS: distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! emgpickups.com Promo Code: Heavy 15% OFF!

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I'm saying you guys have water. I need to water first. I'll have a beer after. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Cheers, cheers. Cheers, cheers in the vape, dude. Cheers in the vape. So this podcast will come out probably a couple months from now,

but it is May 2nd, and we just got done recording our record. last Friday, so it's fresh, so we decided let's just talk about it now. And then, yeah, so we are all here, stoked. We got also, by coincidence, we also started getting masters today of our record, and I think we're pretty horny.

Everybody in this room has a combined horny power of plus 100, dude. For context, though, horny has been the adjective used the theme of the record. As opposed to excited or stoked. It's an evolved from horned up. It is.

It came from horned up. Which we have Dan Kenny to think for. Heavy. The drunk guy from The Bachelor. That's right. It started as heavy as possible. The group chat amongst us and Taylor is HAP, which coined by Garza, HAP is heavier.

Heavy as possible. I tried to name the record heavier than possible. heavier than possible. It's still a great name, I think. It's a good working title, you know? It's funny. It sounds like it could be, like, no offense to these bands or anything. It could be like Exodus.

It could be an Exodus title or like a testament album or something. But, yeah, heavier than possible. But no, what is it, DNR? Do Not Resuscitate, you know? Heavier than possible. We're as-hundred-hers-possible, though, when it comes to this record. Orney as possible. Two days into drum tracking, you know, it became horny as possible, really. That's what happened.

Blame it on big sperm. What's more exciting than being horny, you know? That's an ultimate excitement. His man's got a point, dude. I mean, there's no, is there a more exciting feeling? I mean, that could be a stifling feeling too. You know, if you're horny and you got nowhere to go with that. Like, worse.

Tour bus horny, dude, you know, you're on the bandwagon. That's true. That's bad. It's true. Bad. And shout out to Taylor Young. He did a phenomenal job, and he was trying so hard. not to say horny.

But I broke him. I broke him. He did. I'm claiming that one. He did. He was trying so hard. We would say it pretty much all day. Man, that part is horny.

And he was like, he just almost said anything. He just wouldn't buckle, dude. And finally, he gave into how sick everything was sounding. He was like, guys, I can't believe I'm going to jump on the wagon, but this sounds pretty horn. There it is, dude. I remember. He did. He, like, turned his chair around.

He did. He, he spun with his leg up. everything and just like sounds pretty orny. Oh my gosh, dude. Yeah, Taylor, oh man. Yeah, Taylor killed it. He's a good boy.

He's a good boy. Young legend, dude. I know. Very stoked to have worked with him on this record. 100%. Mike Gitter, who is our A&R at Central Media. He will take credit for referring us to Taylor.

However. However. The reality is... We've been eyeing Taylor for a long, a long time, man. I've been a fan of twitching tongues and nails for a long time so it was cool to be working with somebody that

I've always appreciated. 100%. Yeah, you showed me twitching tongues and they were... Well, inhumane... What's the name of the song? Inhumane or whatever the hell that song is. You know, I'm bad with games. I know. That song was like my favorite song for so long. But Taylor fucking killed it. It's that

record. It's a no... No-loving war. Is that what it is? That's the name of the record? No, there's no law in love. No law and love, that's what it is. And that record is fucking incredible. He is a legend. He's a mind.

It was great working with him. And he does it all. He sings, plays guitar, he plays drums, and he's sick. And all of it. Yes. The stuff that he was showing us, was the band that he showed us to him? He showed us a lot of bands. I was going to say the last man that he was so heavy it's silent also for the record it's Monday and Dan Kenny just had a great weekend so if he just woke up

if he seems kind of over and it's also in the evening we already rehearsed today we've had a long day Dan Kenny's clocked out for the day guys yeah yeah I'm clocked in right now did you guys did you guys did you guys had wobble I had Wobble girl yeah yeah yeah do Wobble Grill yeah do you wobble grill was my new my new love for sure would you get the plant base steak yeah he did When I saw a plant-based steak, I'm like, yeah, I'm going there. And it exceeded what I thought it was going to be. Would you say it was like Michelin Star-worthy? Oh, what's that star, right? Three stars, three stars.

Is the top. Yeah. Can't go any higher than three stars. If you're talking fast food at three stars, I will give it a three-star for fast food. It's a three-star Michelin for fast food. You guys heard the man Waba sponsor us, dude. Would you say it's? horny

yeah it was it was definitely horny as possible sure I'm horned up because that that is the struggle like you want to go out sometimes it's fast food and you want you want like the middle

ground it's like okay I want it to taste good but also I want some veggies and be healthy the same time that's a hard fucking line to hit dude yeah and Waba grill does it

Waba flame while still being fast food yeah essentially it took them how long to make mine so that was that fast because they don't like you, what did you order? Steak bowl. Oh, okay.

Did you get your steak well done? No. They made it well done, though. He asked for a steak bowl with spicy chicken, and they were like, we can't do that. We can't give you spicy chicken on top of the, and they got all mad at him. That's a horny boy. That is a little extra. Some of those steaks weren't steak, you know what I?

Oh, my God. Hey, Ernie, I'm just curious, what do you think about the drums? and how and uh were they what you were expecting or what were you expecting uh uh he's on the spot i'm just like yeah it's it was getting weird i get put on the spot no like like all joking aside all all seriousness i uh i'm blown away by what like what we've listened to today and all that stuff even from the time that we got done tracking drums and just kind of like the raw stuff that we were listening back to that, um, that like, what's the guy's name?

Oliver. Oliver. That he was like, you know, like editing. Yeah, shot at Oliver. What a gnarly individual. Super fast, super sick. Um, just the stuff that was done in, in the room there at 606. Like, by the time we left to like start guitars and all and stuff,

I was already like really excited like of what, like a foundation that we had laid just drums. And I was just like, wow, like this already sounds sick. Like if this is the starting point, everything else is going to get put on top of it. just there was no way that it could be bad yeah like you know what like with like with like all due respect and not trying to sound like fucking like arrogant or cocky or whatever just he got a great performance out of everyone myself included and I feel like when you start with uh when I say he I mean Taylor got a great performance out of everyone and when you start with a platform like that it makes everything else super sick and easy and this has been one of the more like fulfilling

recording experiences I've ever had in my 17 years of playing music. Wow. Yeah, I'm really stoked and, like, I'm excited for everyone else to hear it when, you know, it inevitably hits the streets. It's an exciting record, to say the least. Is this your first time writing an LP, or have you done a bunch of LPs before, EPs? Have you done a bunch of recording stuff? Yeah, and I mean, obviously not on a level like this.

And, you know, going back to the last record, same thing. I wrote a lot of drums on that one as well. that was obviously a much different writing experience with a different producer and all that stuff and you know you came in half the record was already done this is there's that too yeah it was like a weird time crunch and it was like you know and for what it was it was still great

and came out fucking fantastic but before then I mean I've done stuff like you know on a smaller level of bands that were necessarily like you know national touring acts or anything like that but I've definitely I mean at this point I've probably recorded drums on nine or ten albums or something like that or EPs and stuff like that and then full link albums of smaller bands that I was in before, making the jump to touring full-time with bigger bands.

And this is a total, total different experience. Well, yeah, of course. Absolutely. It's way sicker. And all around. For the record, we, yeah, we did the drums at 606, which if anybody doesn't know, is Dave Grohl's studio. There's a great documentary called, it's called Sound City? Yes.

It's a great documentary called Sound City about how that kind of came to be and the history of all that. So I'll skip all that shit. But did it. It was awesome. Ernie recorded five songs the first day, which is mainly a set-up day normally. Normally, it's like set up, get tones, maybe do a song or two if you're lucky. Yeah. We set up and Ernie knocked out five songs in a day.

And it was insane. I like to work, dude. I like to work and just... He took a Viagra before coming in. Let's be serious. Blue Chubon. Blue Chub. Blue Choo.

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Blu-Gia-Doh-Gas a podcast, dude. Listen, you're looking at a table full of horny boys, dude. It's the horriest podcast guys. Dude, did we just, do we just market, market your slogan right now, dude? Horny's podcast. There is all the land, dude. Oh, my God. But, but, okay, so about,

the drums though. Day two though, we knocked out all the easy songs on day one. Day two, the other six, that was a hard day to get the six done in one day. It was. But we still got done two hours early. We did. And we had a fantastic dinner

that night, I remember. And for lunch we had salsa and beer, which was also great. Yeah. But yeah, day two was free free Big Macs and expensive hovers? That's the guy for dinner? Day number two, the guys finally realize that I am indeed human.

It's getting a little frustrated towards the end of that session there. I've been waiting. Oh, oh, oh, end. Lest we forget, dude. Whole record, one pair of sticks. Let's go. Oh, whatever. One pair of sticks, dropped them four times total.

Four times. We caught it all. We caught all on camera. It's all in the unedited, it's currently unedited documentary that we will have made. It'll show every. sticky, he dropped. Yeah. But also we only did, like, what, like one and a half songs to click?

Because, yes, yeah. So, like, full void, which is the last song, I think we did the first half of it to click. And then what was the other song? Dying Life. Oh, well, Dying Life. No, and then Alter. Oh, yeah, because of the breakdown at the U.S.

So two and a half songs. Two and a half songs on Click. And the rest are all free-balling. It's all straight up off the cuff. Bernie is a human clock. I try. It definitely try. But listen, it also helps when you have other sick musicians in the band.

So shout out you. Shout out, you dingus is too. He figured it out. I've always known. That's called a bro job, folks. Just to say, you know, that's what they just gave each other. A sick bro job right there. My hands are above the table, I swear.

To build off what Mark was saying, I'm trying to make it out as condensis pus. There's a lot of history in that room. So that's obviously what Mark said. That's the Dave Roll Food Fighters rehearsal studio. Just so people are aware, I'm going to try not to get spiritual and woo-woo, but that week we were in the last week of March, and Ernie was done playing drums on the 25th. Yeah.

We were done. And we all go home and we look at our phones and find out that Taylor Hawkins has passed away. Which was wild. It's so wild. We were just there in that room. We packed out the night before, went to Taylor's in the morning to start setting up for guitars, got tones, and then left to go eat dinner,

and Taylor walked outside and stopped us. And the street was like, dude, you guys are not going to believe this. They just found Taylor Hawkins passed away. We were just like, what? Like, just tripping. Because that was in his car. We were supposed to be in the studio.

Still that day. We had four days blocked out. And like I said earlier, we finished the drums and two, so we didn't go in that Friday or whatever it was. So, yeah, we were supposed to be there and, like, thank God we weren't because that would have been terrible. They would have sent us home. Well, also because, yeah, everybody that works there are all foos. Yeah, they're crew.

They're crew. They record them. They work with them. They're all very, very close. I mean, that's their, again, not to go too far into the history, but that's their practice spot. Yeah, yeah, that's their headquarters. That's their garage. They have all their, you know, a bunch of their memorabilia there, a bunch of the really cool stuff.

I'm not going to go too far into it. It's so badass. The place is awesome. Place has a special, like, mojo and, like, juju in it when you walk in. You can smell it. The fucking board is signed by Paul McCartney and Stevie Nix. Dude, yeah. That's pretty tough.

Yeah, that's, you can't beat that. No. And that board, you got the, uh, the first tool, the first rage. Nirvana, never mind. Yeah, never mind. My personal opinion, the heaviest record of all. time is Slipmont's Iowa. Slema, Iowa is recorded on that board. So it's just, and it's, to me, it's all about, like, foundation. And to me, like, the drums, not to put pressure on you, but

the drums are just the foundation. No, I'm, I'm aware of the, of the role in the position that it takes to do something like that and make that kind of thing happen and make it something, you know, memorable and special and good. And also, adding to that, like, and maybe some, maybe some people wouldn't understand this, but being in a room like that, tracking drums in a room like that is intimidating, like, to a degree. Was it? Absolutely. Hell yeah.

Like, I know we joke around and we're talking a lot of shit, you know, having a good time or whatever with everyone in the same room. What were you really thinking? Oh, dude, to me it was like, okay, I'm going to track drums in a room that, like, guys like Lombardo and Carrie and, like, legends. Dudes that I look up to have tracked legendary albums in this room, you know, or even spent time in there. To me, that's a big deal.

Like when you're under the microscope like that with all these crazy, like, expensive, like, microphones and, like, historic, like, pieces of equipment and stuff like that they're using. It's, like, it really, like, makes you want to give an even better performance than you might have already been planning on doing. You're just like, damn, like, there's just something in the air in that room that's just like, damn, this is special.

And you got to make sure it's sick so that, like, it translates in the music. And when you hear it as a finished product and all that stuff, like, I want that to translate over and be like, damn like you can really tell they were just giving it 150% the entire time yeah like but yeah that's genuinely how I feel all joking aside from all the jokes we make and shit like that like yeah it's it's a big deal to me for sure I mean that's that is a huge part of recording is getting yourself in that mindset of yes of wow like the people who have recorded here but even even more than that you can go even further and be like oh well like these are the songs that people are going to hear

live so I'm going to put myself in the mindset I mean that's what I used to do before I had the money to record in places that had history you know you just kind of put yourself into the mindset of like well this instrument for me it's the microphone so I'm gonna pretend

like this microphone is a big audience you know I'm sure you do that with the drums that you're like in the show you're in that moment you know you're kind of like above yourself looking you're in the zone you know well yeah I feel like it's a it's It's a bit of trying to capture that feeling or effect.

You know what I mean? Which I know is a difficult thing to do. Playing in a controlled environment like a studio versus playing live is like night and day. And I feel like a lot of the refinements and stuff that you focus on in the studio, as soon as you walk on stage, that shit goes out the window. And I mean, you know, it does. And you guys have obviously done a couple of film shows of me where it was like, you know, me and him were like jamming in the green.

like, okay, cool, sick. Yeah. And then walk on stage and I'm playing everything a fucking thousand miles an hour because it's just like, I'm hyped. I'm horned up, dude. You're going to a thousand miles an hour. You get that adrenaline pumping and it's a whole different game, man. I think at three or four times during this that I'd look over at Mark and he'd be like,

and I'm fucking up. I'm looking at him like, what are you talking about? I'm not playing fat. And we're just fucking flying, dude. And then like I'd go back and like watch the videos that people recorded on their phones on YouTube and I was like, fuck, we were smoking through that song right now. You had me busy-boning so hard. For sure.

Sip it, how was he fucking singing so fast? You know, hey, special one-night set, dude. We're going to play everything 25 BPM faster. Keep up, guys. Come on. Oh, yeah. But it's still solid, and at least you kept the train still going. On the tracks, you know, barely, but I did.

Yeah, man, we got through it. Hey, dude, the Emerson, let's be serious. Did it matter? No. It didn't. You could have dropped every stick, And it wouldn't have mattered. There were like 20 people.

How is the Emerson still a venue? Dude, the McDonald's across the street was banging. That was about the only cool thing about that entire part of town. That day the Big Macs were expensive and the hookers were cheap. I bet the real estate there is cheap. Oh, God. It's not expensive. They pay you to be there.

There's like a fund for the Emerson Theater. Save the Emerson, dude. We renovated the place. It's like, when did you paint the stage that's made a particle board? I knew, no, no, no, no.

You remember that hole and the cement in the back? We, we, uh, made it a little bigger. We put water in it. We put water. There was,

there was, there was, like, there was, when we walked in the morning and like, and like, James Litz was like, hey,

like the fire marshals here trying to shut the venue down. Yeah. Because there's like, there's excess lumber on the ground in the middle of the dance floor. And like, we walked in, and it was like,

two by four slats with like chicken wire around him. you guys do they had a backyard wrestling event at the venue the day before so they had a

backyard wrestling event at the venue we show up and the backyard wrestling event was illegal they didn't have a permit for it

and a bunch of people got hurt that were part of the crowd so they called the fire marshal for our show and they hadn't

moved anything out they hadn't their exits weren't on point it was awesome and they tried to shut down that was that was

it was it was I remember drinking tequila before we went on stage and like Not warming up and not giving a fuck. Shout out to the bar and pub directly around the corner from it.

I went in there to use their little boys facility because there wasn't a suitable one at the venue. And the nice lady behind the bar was like, hey, you got to buy a drink or something if you're going to use our restroom. I was like, well, okay, I didn't really feel like drinking. You got to sell food? She's like, yeah, we have pizza and hot dogs. I was like, yeah, I'll get a slice of pizza. No. And I watched her reach down into the freezer and pull out like a stofers frozen pizza.

Nice. She put that shit in the microwave and charged me like six bucks for it and I had a frozen pizza and then you know use the facilities Six bucks and then you ate it later around 3 a.m. I did and it was Fantastic dude. Sounds like a great day at the emerson. Standard as is standard, dude. Man all of your will part is goes away after 2 a.m. So the fact you had a frozen pizza, dude. Yeah. I mean I didn't have a choice. I mean I could have just paid for it been like I just really want to pee in your bathroom because the other one's not working like but if I got to buy something I mean well a pizza It is. Not gonna buy booze.

I got free booze on the bus, dude. Who else was on that show? Was it just us? It was just us and locals, yeah. A couple of local bands. We invited all hell lady, but they had COVID at the time. Oh, that cool. Yeah.

And then we all got COVID about two weeks later. Yep. Something that I didn't expect, I was very wrong about this, is I did not expect the whole band that get COVID. So yeah, we can't play the show at all. We all got it. By the way, fun fact, even though I wasn't in that camp at the time, it was Garza's fault. I heard. We've been told.

Oh, no. Oh, here we go. I can tell Garza about an inside joke that he doesn't know about. Even I know about it. We were all singing, blame it on Garza. Blame it on Garza. Blame it on Garza. That's all that's fun.

Oh, my God. I'm sorry, guys. Hey, dude, he decided to stage dive in Detroit. which had a like one in every three one and every two or three people had COVID yeah we found out after that yeah we found out no no no no we did not know but I was gonna say hold on though you he didn't just stage dive though he ran through the crowd up onto the balcony and dived off the balcony and jesus and jesus pieced out with a guitar in his hand to be fair to be fair it was the best way to catch COVID it was 100% worth it you can't catch a quarter of that yeah minus for me I mean I mean I was

If anybody talks trash to Garza, dude, I just tell them, listen, it was character building, dude. Getting COVID on tour's character building, for sure. It was viral for a minute, and it was in a group chat that we're in. And I remember everybody in the group chat going, what an idiot. Like, doesn't you know COVID exists? Like, four days later, we're all sick as fuck. Hey, what are you supposed to do? When you're feeling it, you're feeling it, dude.

Whatever. We only miss, like, three shows. Yeah, that's fine. And the sickest Thanksgiving spread ever. The funniest part was everybody trying to not say it was Garza's fault. It was my fault. I did it. Everyone was trying to be nice about.

There's just no way. It was not Garza's fault at all. But you know the craziest part about all of that too, though, is I spent almost all day on your guys' bandwagon in Brooklyn when you guys were all sick. Never got sick. I like went and got like a pedicure with Megan. and they were all sick and I just didn't get it. I was like, okay. Yeah, you were kicking it with me.

You brought me breakfast that morning. Yeah, from the middle spot and all this stuff. I felt horrible. Yeah. And you guys looked fucking terrible too. And you and I was like, maybe they're hung up, you know, whatever. I was like, okay, it's tour lung, whatever. I was like, everyone's just shot and tired.

It's day off. They're trying to relax. We roll five blocks to the venue in the morning. And everyone's like, hey, uh, it just started trickling down. I was like, oh, shit. Everyone in my camp was like, weren't you on their wagon all day? I was like what no no they're not they're not my friends but we did like you know they made you know the venue made us test or whatever and I was still there I was like

all right cool had John Douglas and James never got it yeah oh yeah they were like in our blood holes and they didn't catch it no it was it was really weird it was literally just the band in our merch girl yeah that's because you know you know what you know James Lynch didn't catch it because he's not human dude he's no James lins didn't catch it because he had it's because he's like two weeks before Oh, yeah, that's also true. Because he drinks the Mexican water. He's fine. Sea water, too, not to mention.

Yeah. In the beautiful sandy beaches of Cozumel, dude, let's go. Cosimo. So, like, a week later, Ardoin comes out on internet that Michigan was, like, this one in three people out of COVID. So it happened after. Yeah. And Garza, you jumped into about 15 people, so there's about six those motherfuckers that had it. Yeah.

That was more than 15 people, dude. That was a packed-dash show. Oh, you jumped from the rim. I mean, the people that caught him have said, From the balcony. And you know, you know, it was one weird fan that, like, stuck their finger in his mouth, dude, while he was just, like, they were like, I can do it. Yeah, gave him the old fish hook real quick, dude.

Oh, my God, well, guys, I'm sorry. If it would be living with me, I'm sorry, you. God. Blame it on Garza. Blame it on Garza. Garza, you became a Diaside song. How does that feel? Dude, that's pretty sick.

He's like, Diaside's pretty tight. Shout out Glenn, dude. But you know what? To my credit, it felt it felt pretty normal because, I mean, that's when, I feel like, I mean, that tour was a while.

We were gone for already four weeks. And you know, you get fatigued. You got a runny nose. That's what I'm saying. Like you're sneezing. It's like, it's like the torque cold.

I feel, I feel normal. I feel normal out here. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But I should have been more responsible. I'm like, wait. I should have.

It's a time of uncertainty, whatever. You're fucking rolling the dice. We were also... It's off of the line. Rock and roll, dude. Yeah, we were also the mindset of just like, dude, like, get tested if you really feel like crap. And really, the only two people that

got it bad, bad, were Mark and I. Well, Devin, Devin, too. Oh, okay, yeah, Devin's... Scrumptious. He got it away, like, days after all of us were already. Poor kid out of a bunch of bugs of his bed. Oh, my God. I know. His room of...

lady bucks the through death? I'll never I'll never forget when we face timed you and Devin and Devin answered the phone dude and he looked fucking miserable. He was just like Oh we lost our minds. I don't even want to get into that. He looked so

bummed your daily like hey you want to go take a walk around the parking lot. Shit sucked dick. Oh not only that but it's like taking a walk was a brutal experience. We had to do it. It was like Because it was getting winded, just walking. I still haven't fully recovered. Brain fog, dude.

I've had COVID like 15 times, dude. My fucking brain is mushed. I'm fucking dusted, dude. You're dusted. You're dusted. I wonder if my taste is actually is back. Sweets don't taste as good to me anymore. I have not had such a sweet tooth anymore since COVID.

I don't smell things the same way. Unless you're going to curse. Yeah, I don't know. He's fooling himself. Garza, you've never had good taste, dude. What are you talking about? Okay. I'm kidding.

We're just going to move on. Yeah, the worst thing was not being able to taste, man. That wasn't the worst thing that was up there. But when you have a drink of a beer, you have to look at it to make sure it's not that's soda water. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It just tastes like soda water.

That's true. That's true. You have a shot of tequila. Can't even taste that at all. That's so weird. You're like, all right, this is going to be trouble. Okay, we all know the best part is. Sleeping all day.

Close. I love that I love sleeping Okay When you're taking a shit You know smell it Oh my shit Don't smell anymore

Okay I'm cool Wow What so Oh wait I have a COVID I can't smell anything You think your shit don't stick Yes I do I got news for you

Oh so check this When we were in that hotel Though We weren't really They're supposed to be Like seeking quarantine At a hotel No definitely not

We were hiding out Being really respectful And not You know being out But like Megan Our Merger Girl smoked cigarettes And she wasn't really That sick

But she did lose her sense of smell. She went outside to smoke a cigarette while there was like a skunk that had just skunked. And everyone that was working at the hotel was like, you know, oh, fucking disgusting out there. And Megan's just out there smoking a cigarette, like not giving a shit. And everyone's just like, how do you like, how do you like? It blew our cover. They were like, oh, these people definitely got fucking drugged. Yeah, there's like a skunk problem outside our rooms. I couldn't smell. I couldn't smell it either. I couldn't smell. I'm going to go get a beer. Yeah, you should.

I'm going to pay a piss. Oh, yeah, and not be able to taste Mexican food. That's a travesty. That was devastating. It tastes it like steel. Fuck. You know, everything tastes like you're chewing aluminum foil when you have COVID. It's fucked up.

I just ate plain-ass white rice because it does that much taste anyways. You're just getting all your nutrients at the very least. You're like, oh my God, dude. Also, that just was a fucking crazy long tour. who's eight and a half weeks. Okay. Stone cold beer, dude. Oh, damn, that's right.

Give me a hell yeah. Hell yeah. What I'm talking about. What? You can't do an eight week-long tour and I expect to get COVID. Yeah, at that point, it's a numbers game. You're literally rolling the dice.

Who's going to be out almost nine weeks and not come in contact with somebody? You know what I mean? It's impossible. That's what I'm saying. So this show coming up that we're doing for New York, they haven't seen us in a really long time. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that's right, because yeah. I was the dad of the band for sure. Before that tour, I was like, dude, we're all going to get sick, you know? Like, my cousin is an infectious disease specialist, so like, I just go straight to this girl who, like, knows everything about everything. And she's just like, it's not if and when. It's not if, it's when, telling me, like, you guys are foolish to think you guys are

going to be able to finish that tour without getting COVID. You're going to go in a room with 1,000 to 2,000 people a fucking day. Like, you're guaranteed everyone's going to get sick. And I kept saying it's everybody. I'm like, it's going to happen. Yeah. And we were tight as fuck, though, for that first month. It was, uh...

Yeah. Yeah. It was totally worth it. It was a great tour. It was a normal, like, four-week-long tour. We came home... Without it. Probably without it. But then we probably would have got it again.

Somehow. Oh, yeah, of course. From, like, the last two days of tour, someone walks by and sneezes on you or something. But you did... After you have it, you do feel kind of invincible. Like, hey, I already had it. Fuck you guys.

You know? Yeah. Hey, it's all hang out. Let's all hang out. And right now, like, we're about to leave for chaos and carnage. I was hoping that I had COVID because I just got exposed last week and I had to sit at my house for five days and wait to get tested and make sure I didn't have it. I was hoping that I had it. So, like, oh, I'm going to go out on tour.

I already have it and not worry about getting it again. He'd have the fucking the natural immunity on roids, dude, from how many times he's had it. I probably already have it. I didn't get it. You're like fucking bubble boy, dude. You've had COVID 15 times. You just don't have any immunity whatsoever. Yeah, dude.

Fuck COVID. I ain't scared, dude. I ain't fucking scared. I wonder how it is now. It's not in the news really at all anymore. I'll say that. Remember, we were talking about this the other day or yesterday, I think. Yeah, I think it is.

What it seems like it's shifted into? Like, I watched, I don't actively watch it, but I caught like a news piece where they were talking about another mutated strain. But even the news was like at this point, they were saying like, we're no longer in a pandemic or in an endemic. and this is just going to be around. And basically by this time next year or something like that, anyone that catches it,

it's going to be like a mild cold. It's a hoax, dude. It's something real. Endemic? I've remected and shit, whatever. All the buzz words. That's the term they were using. That's a bad last word.

Endemic? It's a great album title. That's the name of the next record. Endemic. It's kind of sick, boy. It's the last thing now, dude. Endemic. So we're announcing our,

our last record right now. So new bed grid, last one, endemic. 2024, endemic, dude. There you go. What are you on there, dude? This is a little DJ. A little DJ. A little Don Hoo.

Oh, so it's that Jesus juice. The Jesus juice in the corn shot glass, you know? Hey, look at it closely before you take it. I had about 500 of those this weekend. We know, Nick. We can tell by your text messages in the group chat. 500? I don't even believe. I don't even make it. Hey guys, dude.

$500.000. $5,000. P-bag punishment, dude. They're fucking, our record's going to sound easily as good as them, dude. It's awesome. I bought a shirt of them. P-bag punishment, dude. Is anal-olepsy a movie or a band?

It's a band. It's a band, dude. It's heaviest foot. Oh. Because you made it sound like a band, you may it sound like a movie. He's kind of cool. He's pronouncing it wrong.

It's Anna-Lepsy, dude. Whoops. Oh. Anna's the first name. Lepsie is the last name, dude. Anna Lepsie. You guys know Anna, right? Lepsie?

She's a Lepsie and not a right. Yeah, dude. Oh, my gosh. No, Dan Kenney is in like multiple group chats. And I just see him get confused with him. I get confused with him. I'm like, Dan Kenney, you're talking to the wrong people about the wrong shit.

Like, you don't even notice it. Just to Dan Kenny right here, dude. I had way too much. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Thanks go. to Dan the Dan man Kenny

To kick out DK kick ass dude let's go The dankest of Kenny's Taylor Taylor called Taylor called Dan Kenny the band clown But I mean that's not I like it's kind of true It's like you know

You're entertain us all the time Stevo was a cloud Yes And he's real successful And he's badass too Krusty the clown He's way more handsome than you John Wayne Gasey was a clown

Doeck the clown Doeck the clown? Was doink gay? He was, probably. He was, wasn't he? If we get him doinked in the back, if you were talking about doink the clout of the wrestler, there was like six different doinks.

Oh, no shit. It always changed every couple years to a different guy. It's what if he was the first gay wrestler or not? Who knows? I'm sure he clouded around. I'm sure. That was impressive. See?

See what I mean? There you go, dude. So, wait, so he was a wrestler for a while, but his character changed? No, his characters stayed the same, but the person who played him was different. Really? Yeah. That's like four different ones.

There's two Undertakers, too. No. The other Undertaker was just some dude who kind of looked like him, and they made him Undertaker versus Undertaker, which is just a silly match. They're probably running out of ideas for him. Okay, so was Kane the same guy? Kane has always been the same guy. Always been the same guy. Before he was Kane, he was Isaac Yac of DDS.

He was a dentist wrestler. There's a big conspiracy. I remember when I was young, it was like, It used to be, oh, Kane was the original Undertaker. I know, I know. I used to think that was true because Undertaker used to be kind of chubby, so he used to look way different. And then all of a sudden, Undertaker became the American badass,

and he looked totally different. Completely different. And I was like, that's not the same fucking guy. American badass. That was my email address. It was American Badass, like, 9-5. No, American badass 909. No, I couldn't stand that gimmick, dude.

Oh, dude. to come on. He went from like the dead man all brutal. It's like, I'm some biker goddown. Yeah, I'm some biker dude.

It's like, boo. Go kill people. Dude, my socks were so high. Living in the IE. You know, I wanted a motorcycle. It was too poor. I loved it.

Mark was sock checking fools before sock check was a thing, bro. He's been wearing the high socks, dude. They've gone down a little bit. You know, they probably used to be up here. Yeah, for sure.

This is a really nice table, guys. This table was 30 bucks, dude. What? I waited for months outside of a Bob's outlet. Wait, seriously? This particular style

I was waiting for months for this to go in an outlet because this is normally like 600 bucks. You got this for 30 bucks? I mean, $30 is insane. Yeah. I waited.

A week before the Ashley podcast, I was like, I need that tape I might buy it new. I was like tripping. I'm like then and then I went in Bob's and boom, there was finally. Fuck yeah. Wait, was it like a parking lot deal?

or something like that? Or they were just like, we're blowing it out because it's just... Bob's furniture. I know what they are. Like, I know they like... It's like discount furniture or whatever have you, but like... Yeah.

I mean, it's not cheap stuff. Like, it's a fucking nice table. Not all of them which I found out, but a few of them have outlets. And in the back, so you go in the back, there's like beat up kind of furniture. And it's all dope, cool, cool stuff. But now it's different.

The past few months I just went there to curiosity. Now all the prices, even in the outlet are fucking... Yeah, it's because they realized they gave Garza a $30 table and they were like that. We fucked up, dude. Everything's fucking up there. You know what, dude?

I take it back. You're not shot anymore, dude. What did you do, Bob? That was a $1,200 table. $30? What the hell? Also, fun fact, going back to that whole, like, Kane Undertaker thing, you know, Kane is the mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee?

Shut the fuck up. No, seriously. No, he's not. Oh, man. Is he really? Alex Wade and Phil were like, Alex Wade and Phil were like, yo, you guys, you know that he's the mayor of Knoxville.

His name's Glenn. Fuck. Glengeman? His name's fucking Glenn. Glenn Jimon Glengen. Glengerman is fucking Kane. Yeah. I don't even remember how we got on the subject of it.

We were over when I was jammed with him, whatever. And we were talking about wrestling or some shit. And he was like, yeah, he's like, you know, Kane is the mayor of Knoxville. And I was like, wait, like the wrestler. He's like, yeah, his real name's Glenn and he's the mayor of Knoxville. I was like. Real name is Glenn. I hate that.

I hate everything about that too. I don't know. You Knoxville. I don't know. Glenn Benton's pretty hard, dude. Glenn Blenton. Glenn Blenton. Somebody's drinking tequila over there.

I've had a tequila, too. Y'all know Blaine Gantin right, dude. That guy's sick. I don't like me, dude. The mayor of Haiti. Blame it on me, dude. It all comes full circle, dude. It does.

It does. Ernie, you are gearing up to play your first official show with us. Yeah. Pretty cool. Less than a week away. Sacramento, California. Yeah, dude. Twits today's money.

Yeah. Four days. Five days. Four days. Sold out. Sold out Ace of Spades. Going to be a good time. Lots of friends, lots of homies.

Just a crazy, crazy, crazy time we're living in. How are you feeling? I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little nervous, but I feel good, especially after today's rehearsal. Yeah. Officially our first time jamming as a whole group today outside of the recording, playing songs that I've never played before. I went into it a little wary and came out with a couple of blood blisters

and feeling way better about myself. I'm like, okay, we're good. We're going to be all right. Yeah. It's going to be really good. Took it from a semi to a full boner. You know? I didn't quite go from 6 to midnight right away. I went from like 6 to like 8. Then once we were done,

I was like, all right, it's midnight. We're good. We're chilling. You come a long way, Ernie. Like, even when you weren't in bands or you were feeling in for Whitechapel for those two year plus, and like you were still like spending your money, like getting

rehearsal spots, playing drums, practicing drums. Grinding, dude. Like still, dude. And that's a, that's all, it's all part of the trip, dude. It's all part of, you know, getting, you know, to where you want to be. You're going to get out of this kind of career what you want to get out of it with the time and effort you put in. You get back what you put into it. I firmly believe that.

Yeah. I don't think that I would be doing the things I'm doing if I didn't put that kind of work in or, you know, make the sacrifices early on of, you know, working 8,000 different. fucking jobs just to make enough money to afford gear and be able to take time off and go play shows and do stuff like that, you know, to get to a point where I am now. And I, and I know for some people they've been doing it longer than I have. They got, you know, their start, I don't want to say, well, I guess, yeah, sooner, you know what I mean? In terms of, like, you know, being in a full-time touring band a lot younger, it didn't really happen for me until, like, you know, my middle to late 20s and stuff like that. But I'm actually really, like, happy that it happened that way for me.

trajectory. I don't know that I'd be able to handle that kind of thing in my earlier years. Then you start jamming with dudes like us who were jaded and shot. We've done it all already and we're like, we want more.

I need to take before I go to bed. But no, it's it's truly a crazy thing due to the trajectory and the places that music has taken me. there were definitely times where I was like, man, this is a grind.

And I knew that going into it. When I dropped out of high school, you know, almost 20 years ago now, God, we're fucking old. It was one of those things where I was like, you know, I don't really, I don't want to do anything else but music, and I'll figure out a way to make sure that I can do that and make it work, regardless of what I got to do to get there. You know what I mean?

So, you know, when I think about, like, the time and the money spent and all that stuff, I don't regret any of it. You know, I've put myself in debt many of times, gotten myself out of debt. But it's never been a thing where I was like, I'm spiteful as shitty because I did all this and nothing is paid off from me. You know what I mean?

I knew eventually something would have to give because I put myself in front of enough people and faces and ears. Eventually someone would be like, damn, this guy is a hard worker and he's sick and doing his thing, like, let's see what he's about. And I don't know. I feel like I've spent a lot of time

climbing the proverbial ladder or whatever you want to call it, you know, but I always stay hungry. Like I just want to always fucking be as the best version of myself as a human and a drummer as I always can be. And I feel like you're always learning, you're always improving. And like the moment that you stop doing that or you get complacent or comfortable with yourself, you'll start to regress or just kind of walk in place. Yeah, I mean.

But yeah. But I'm very excited for where I am right now and the things we're about to do and the record on our hands. the tours we have coming up and stuff like that. Chaos and Carnage is going to be insane. Almost the entire thing is almost sold out, which is unreal. Yeah. So I think the rest of this year is going to be a really wild, productive, busy one, and I'm looking forward to every day.

You know, there's a lot of amazing things you said there because a lot of people bank on the fact that you have to get, to where you're supposed to be young, you know, especially in the entertainment industry. Yeah. And, you know, sports also has that same kind of deal where it's like there's an expiration date. There's a shelf life.

We're athletes, you know what I mean? And there's an expiration date to where you can write, you know, sick music that's going to affect an age range and be able to resonate and, you know, blah, blah, blah, here and there with music. Yeah. But one of the things that you said is, like, if you do keep up on your hustle and,

grind and you don't you know you don't lose focus of the fact that yeah you're there for the for the music you're there to be the best player that you can be to be the best writer whatever artistic you know outlet you have within you know the music as long as you're doing that and keeping to it being consistent with it that there is an avenue there is an an opening there is a window that you can find no matter what age you're at and that's that's that's huge Because, you know, especially for, like Mark was saying, it's like for dudes like us, we're at an age already where it's like, yeah, we've done it. But it's also like, have we done it? You know, like, have we gotten to where we wanted to be when we're imagining these things?

Exactly. Have we gotten that high that we were supposed to get? Yes, we have, but also we don't, you're still chasing it. So. Yeah. And it's easy to get jaded within that. Absolutely. It's good to see that because there are kids out there right now that are so thirsty for this. that's the biggest thing.

It's like, so hungry, so thirsty. They're killing themselves going into debt, you know, making their parents go into debt. Yeah. You know, playing on, you know, whatever they can figure out to jam with their buddies. That right there goes a long way. And if you are doing that right now, keep going. Yeah. Because this is what happens.

Absolutely. Yeah. And that's, you know, any time that I've gotten the opportunity to talk to. a younger kid or someone who's getting into music and stuff like that, even as my time has a fill in with other bands and stuff like that and being on tour and having fans or kids alike being like, hey, you know, think you're a great drummer. That's, you know, awesome to see you touring with these guys and whatnot.

You know, and I've had kids asking, you know, like, what's your advice? What do you tell someone that's like, you know, getting into music or wants to start a band, you know? And, you know, I know some people would give I mean, everyone's going to answer that question differently, you know, based on their own experiences. You know what I mean? But I've always just felt like, you know, being very, like, brutally honest about it, it's like, hey, it's definitely not a job, career, or lifestyle that most people are going to be able to hack.

The thought of it looks awesome on TV and on the Internet when people are like, damn, these guys playing these big ass shows and, you know, signing autographs and all stuff. And that shit is fantastic. and that's awesome, but that's about this much of it by comparison to everything else that you don't see behind the curtain or behind the door of, you know, struggling to stay afloat, you know, paying bills, jumping from job to job to maintain being able to leave and come back. You know, a lot of places, you know, I've done that forever. You leave from a job to go on tour. You come back, they ain't going to have you.

You know what I mean? Like doing stuff like that. So I'm very honest about it. I'm like, hey, it's 2022. You've got to have podcasts. You got to have a stream. You got to diversify your bonds. You got to diversify your bonds.

It just isn't, you know, the grind is not creating a record and then putting it out there and then going on tour. That's not the grind. The grind is the 48 sleepless hours that you're putting in to get to the point where you can maybe have a show for five people. Exactly. That's the shit that people don't talk about. Don't glamorize. Don't make sick. But that's the sickest part.

It is. And it is like, especially in this day and age, in the age of social media and all this stuff, it's, It's a lot of a, what's the term? Like smoke and mirrors. You know what I mean? Everything looks awesome on your phone screen here. Yeah, for sure. And double tapping on a phone, you know, but 90% of those kids don't know what it took to get to that point.

Or what goes on the other 23 hours of the day except for that one hour that you're on stage looking cool and badass. It's like, dude, you know, you're sitting around, you're waiting, you're in parking lots. You're taking poops at Walmart and shit like that. You know what I mean? But I wouldn't have it any other way. You know what I mean? whether it be in a van, bandwagon or a bus or whatever. It's just you constantly stay grinding because you're going to get out of it

what you want to get, what you put in. Yeah, you know, you're going to be the best form of yourself that you want to be. Exactly. And I feel as long as that's, you keep that kind of mentality and you stay sharp up here, everything else will follow. Like, I've always felt that way I've got a, I credit most of that to my grandpa, who's going to be 101 in August. Wow.

Killing it. 1001. Still killing it. Still takes a shot at tequila every morning. He swears to keeps them alive, I believe him. Shout out to DJ. Shout out, dude. Julio.

Is this name of Don Julio? It is not. It's actually, it's Don Epi. Don Epi, Dan Epi, Dan. It is. Is the creator of the Epi pen? Just so you guys know. I wanted to talk about, so like I said that, you know, we're all jaded and all that, which

I recognize the way that we have been at this for close to 20 years now, and Ernie has been at this in a different capacity than us, and having him involved and seeing the way that he operates, it brings a new life and a new fire that it's not that we lack the fire. It's that where we are jaded is that we are so used to all of the monotony and all of this shit that we can fucking say, fuck that stupid shit because we're so tired of it. We joke about it.

It's part of our regular life. you know but when we start working with someone like ernie who is so stoked to write music and we that is where we are not jaded where it's like the only reason why we're doing this is because it's like we want to fucking create something yeah you know so like the creation of things is where like you know all the jaded bullshit goes so far out the window and you know we talked about it on the drive after we finished the record and we were we were driving it was it was kind of weird little like end of the record. What do we do? The record's done. All right. Ernie. Hey, can you give me a ride

here? I'm like, sure. All right. So we're talking about it. But it's like, you know, what you brought to the album was a lot of realization. And like a lot of, you know, we put, I know we pushed ourselves like way harder, I think also because it's like, we know, this is going to be, you know, everyone's going to look at, there's a new drummer,

you know, there's somebody that has been, that wasn't, that was involved with the band for so long, that isn't. And I know we all pushed ourselves in a way that like, probably wouldn't have happened if it was, you know, the other way around, which we all know what we're talking about. But, but, which, yeah, shout at Alex. You know, we all love Alex. You know, but this, this process was some, was some, was full of learning experiences, which maybe we're here right now to discuss, which maybe we didn't really talk about, you know,

while, while it was happening. But like, yeah, dude, you know, the, the fact that we all are doing this in whatever capacities we have and we still like fucking get so much joy out of sitting in a tiny little fucking studio either this talking about it or in the studio grinding out guitars tracks or doing drums or whatever like yeah it was so it was so much fun and like yeah like you killed it and we i think we all learned a lot about you know what we're doing and why we're doing it i think you know and and everybody i think surprised each other with what we could do and needed to do on this record. Yeah, and what was, and what was, you know, created out of it, for sure.

Like, you know, that, I think is like a real good, like, explanation of it. Like, I think, you know, myself included too, like, not just me, but everyone involved. It was like, shit, okay, like, damn. But, you know, how many times after like piecing a song together, you know, whether it was one that was already, you know, kind of already in construction or one that we wrote from the ground up or whatever, where it was like, oh, all right, like it'd come together, you know, we'd sit on it for a day and then come back and play it the next day and be like, damn, shit, okay, this is like sick. How can we bank on this and make this even sicker?

And then I, you know, I really feel like just the process in general of, you know, obviously, you know, having someone new in the group and, you know, with a different style of drumming and stuff like that. You know, and then getting this weird, like, trifect of, like, working with Taylor and him being really professional. and sick at what he does, just made the process like enjoyable. I know that sounds dumb, but it's just like it really like... Super enjoyable. Some bands, they look at writing music like a fucking task.

Like they're like, oh, we've got to go write another fucking record for the label, whatever. It's like... It's true. You know what I mean? And I understand for some people, yeah, you can be jaded by that because you've done it so many times and you know the process. And it's just like, you go into this autopilot thing of being like, okay, let's go sit down in the room, hammer out 12 of whatever we have to do. A lot of people have music written for them.

And that is a super taxing thing. Yeah. And that's crazy to me too. Like, I mean, hey, listen, everyone does things differently. We won't name band names, but a lot of bands that you love don't write their own songs. Yes. And that's the thing is what's fun and what keeps us not jaded at the writing is the fact that we do write together. And we do sit in a room, bang our heads together and come up with the best possible, you know, thing.

It's, it's, that is the beauty of it. I wanted to say this earlier. You were talking about like, sorry to cut you off to you. It's like, you were talking about, oh, when I go into 606, it's like, who's recorded here, who's done this? It's like, that all matters so much. And like this builds this like anticipation to create something where you're going to be doing it.

But like while you're writing, while I'm writing, I'm always thinking about the relationship of like how I feel towards the music while I'm doing it because it is going to exist forever. And some of this I'm going to play on. for probably the rest of my fucking life and I better enjoy the fuck out of it and also learning from all you guys that you guys better enjoy it

either as much or close to as I am or else we're all not going to play that song live. Exactly. Exactly. I mean and that goes for every instrument in the band. When you write to the parts that are written you have to love it because that's what's going to

you're going to write more in the pocket when you like the part when you're a part of it one thing that I wanted to say was one of the things that astounded me and really kind of surprised the shit out of me it was we were pressed for time

that was a huge thing and you know you don't hear these things ever you know unless you read 50 interviews and you finally get the one snippet of somebody talking about the record you know but we were really pressed you know We went through the Alex situation, and that was in the middle of the record. We had, we just started writing when all of that happened.

So ultimately, we had to bring in somebody new, almost brand new-ish, into start writing a full 11, 12 songs. That happened in less than two months. Yeah, we did it in six weeks. I literally kept the count six weeks because you don't blink or sleep yeah that's true

all he does is I do sleep no one ever sees it's really quick I just rub his knees I kept saying I kept saying it while we were working on the record I was like this

we're not behind schedule we're not ahead of schedule we're right on time we have no time to spare to the tea man it all fit in like a puzzle Like it really did. The whole thing, start to finish.

It all fit in like a puzzle. You know, my scheduling issues. Everybody's scheduling with each other. Writing and being ready for the studio and having enough songs that were fire, that were, you know, on point. Because it's, you know, nobody talks about the other, we have, we're going to be releasing, you know, a certain amount of songs. Nobody talks about the other 20 songs that were not fully hashed out. They don't make the gut. So it's like those were being hashed out during.

Yeah. The writing. So it's like, that's the stuff that's really impressive because you're going through easily 40 songs. And then you're picking 10, maybe 12, and running with that. And to be ready for that in a month and a half, which is what you said, six weeks? Yeah, six weeks. To be ready in six weeks? That's incredible.

And that takes a lot of passion. That takes a lot of this pre-work that we've been talking about. Six weeks before we were in the studio, yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, studio, so 10 weeks altogether? Yeah. Yeah.

Start to finish, which is insane. For anybody. Regardless of the caliber of, like, music and ship, that's, you know, especially, you know, putting a full-length album together. Like, you know, from start to finish. On, you know, yeah, like you said, on top of everything else that didn't make the cut or that, you know, didn't get fully constructed. There's still pieces here and there, like in the riff bank and all that stuff. It's, yeah, dude. It's a labor of love. It's a, it, it, you, I don't know.

A word that I throw around you guys know is intention. Like, whenever we're writing, it's like, well, what are we intending to do? Why does this song exist? Why is this Riffney to be here? Why is this here? Like, I feel like it was oddly enough, the intention was placed when we started. And we, it was like, I think it was like January 23rd. I kind of remember this date.

I remember, like, we started January 23rd with you. And we were like, all right, we're going to start on the, this date or whatever it was, March something. And I remember you saying like, we're good. Like, we got this. We're like, we're going to have this many songs or whatever. And I remember you saying it. And I remember, like, I remember like, I believe you.

And I was like, that's the intention right now. We're going to get this done. We're going to get there. We're going to have everything we need to get done done. We're going to be there. And it's like, boom, there it is. Like, say it into existence. Make it fucking happen.

Hey, that's, as cliche as that sounds, that whole speaking things in new existence. Oh, yeah. 100% believe that. Totally. I mean like yeah I've got I've got some wild theories and shit that I won't even get into like on camera we talk about it after but that was something

that freaked me out early on when I when I first started like delving into like touring full time and all that stuff like I was at a show years ago with a friend that I made a comment about a certain group and just kind of willed it into existence and it was really fucking weird the way it all came in full circles. Very strange. But I, you know, I said it to him, he probably thought I was joking. But at that point, I kind of knew the band that I was in at that point was coming to an end.

Everyone in that group was like, hey, you know, we've been doing this for a long time and we kind of want to, you know, go back to our regular jobs and do our, you know, a secure thing. And I'm like, cool, that's fine. I was never one of those people that's like, oh, okay, well, if you're not in this with me, then get fucked or whatever. I'm like, yeah. I supported him like, yo, you want to do that? Cool, do that. They were all very much like, cool. Like, you're still. going to do the music thing? Well, yeah, you know, I don't really find myself being super sick at anything else. Like I thought I'm fucking bad at anything, but it's just like, I don't want to do,

I don't want to do anything else but that, you know what I mean? I knew I had to continue working regular jobs and side hustling to be able to afford and, you know, the ability to do music the way that I wanted to in the capacity that I wanted to. But yeah, I made a joke while we were at a concert. And he kind of looked at me and laughed and I was like, yeah, watch, yeah, like one day, and I'll play drums in that band. And then, you know, thanks. Fast forward fucking six years later, I'm answering a phone call and the receiving end of that band being like,

hey, come play drums for us. Oh, shit, okay, sure. All right. That's how it works. I feel like I damned myself with my intention. And it's actually like something I've... It made my like, you know, whatever spiritual beliefs or whatever the fuck,

which, you know, are what they are. But when I was super young, I remember being like, I want to... And it was red hot chili peppers. It was green day. It was Soundgarden, it was Allison Chains. It was like, these bands I was really into when I was a kid. Like, I'm talking like for a second grade.

And I'm like, I want to do what they're doing. I didn't even really know what they were doing meant. But I'm like, whatever I got to do to do that, I don't care if all I, if all the money I make is to pay for the roof above my head and my bills. I don't care if that's all that I want to do. And here I am. Paying for the roof above my head and all my bills and that's all I'm doing. So, you know, I always look at it's like, damn, I really did this to myself. Right.

We all set the same intention. I said the same thing. I was like, all I want is to be able to cover my bills and be able to jam and rock for the rest of my life. Here I am. Here we are. The intention,

the willing, that's everyone, to some extent, understands that that's real, but when you see it happen, when you see things lock into place, and you're like aware enough, you're self-aware enough

to know that things are locking into place for you in that moment. It's something else. It's really nice. Yeah, it's a wild thing. Yeah, watching it like come to fruition in front of you're like oh okay yeah like you yeah feel blessed yeah and then on that same time though you'll that's also when you realize that you're like your actual grind and hard work is paying off you know i mean that it like it wasn't in vain

it's not for nothing you know i mean because some people i mean yeah some people would be like damn i've been at this forever and nothing's giving i'm just gonna say fuck it and and you know go get a nine to five or whatever and i get it i have friends that have done that too we all have friends in the business that have been like yo this ain't panning out for me i'm gonna go do something else. Nothing against him. More power, too. I'm like, hey, if that's what's in the cards for you now

and that's what you want to do, cool. I've just always, yeah, just never wanted to fucking do anything else. I'm like, man, that's where fucking mindset comes into. We can go on a fucking long one on that. But it's like, how many of our friends do you talk to or it's like, oh, I haven't seen you on the road in a while? It's like, oh, I got this job or I got this.

And it just became the sacrifices didn't become worth it anymore. You know, it's just like, well, it's like, you start looking at things like that where it's like, well, what were you sacrificing? What were the sacrifices you were sacrificing, you know? Or like, why were you looking at it that way? You know?

And hey, man, priorities do change, though. And that's one thing. You know, like, and for certain people. You know, then you've seen it. You know, you've seen it in people that we've toured with, you know. And, you know, when, you know, they're down for the cause. They're, you know, driving your, you know, your van, your trailer, being there, your tour manager, your guitar tech, your everything.

And then they see a wall. and they're like, oh, well, I'd rather just go work in an office. And then you see them, you know, 10 years down the line. And, you know, they seem unhappy. You know what I mean? But the reality is that they would be absolutely miserable, even being on the road, because that's their mindset. That's their position.

It's, I'm not happy anywhere I'm going to be. Yeah, for sure. There's that, too. They should just kill themselves. And then... Wrote a song about it. Like to hear it. Here it go.

and then you have people that I see you all the time people that quit before it's time to quit I forgot how many times I want to quit this band but for some reason I don't know what it is you just keep showing up I don't know what it is either he said and then there's Dan Kenny

dude dude you're fucking stuck with me dude I don't know what it is dude I mean I love I'm very lucky to be in a band with people that I enjoy being around that make me want to be a better person and you know i mean mark now ernie you eddie and dan i mean no matter what has happened in the past like you guys make me want to be a better person and maybe that kind of maybe some consciously maybe just keeps me here i don't know yep it's weird

it's it's it's it's we talked about it like when you first came down and we had lunch like discussing you know yeah me coming in or whatever um yeah we had a long-ass conversation you know i mean that would have been great to have that conversation here on the podcast. We had lunch that lasted like 20 minutes and then talked for like an hour and a half afterwards. But it's the hungry mentality, dude. To me, like, I don't know, say the age thing doesn't fucking matter. I mean, they'll put a roof over it and be like, wow, no, you're older than this or you're fucking shot. And it's like, I don't know.

And I know this is like a corny analogy, but I mean, look at fucking Metallica. Mm-hmm. Those dudes are going to do that shit to the wheels fall off, dude, and they'll be good at it. until it's time to fucking hang it up it's easy to be rich and shot though it's also hard to understand how much

how self-serving music is I mean like this is for this is for you know even though we are in a band together we still do this for ourselves individually yeah also like it's hard to not get past that egotistical nature of it but like but here's a thing

that's a true and fucking factual statement And no one that started a fucking band young was like, I want to fucking do this so that I can impress people and fucking get chicks. Like I get that that's a thing. But that's not real, dude. No one that sits in a garage with their homies and starts taking music seriously and wanting to write good songs and stuff like that was ever like, I want to do this for the guts in the fucking glory.

Of course that comes with it, you know, if he becomes successful and all that shit. You do it because you're fucking, you're stoked on it and you like what you're doing. You like creating something. You want to put something together. and make something, what's the word like, like tangible. And in our case, it's music, it's songs. It's art. That's art, dude.

It's art. Even simpler. Yeah. You do it because the first time you put a group of notes together, it gave you that dopamine rush. And then you got addicted to creating that and getting more fluid in your writing prowess. And you wanted to become a better musician. So you write more and you practice.

us more. It's a long lasting living video game that we're playing. A hundred percent. It's one of the most fulfilling things on the planet. And there's endless routes you can take. You know what I mean? That's ultimately why I'm in music. There's multiple highs for sure. Yeah. Like, you get

the high, you get going on stage. That's like the biggest thing I'm into. Dude. Some people like to serve? I like to fucking rock out. Yeah. And that's a big one right there. Do you like transitioning from the garage to the small bars, to the clubs, to the big stages, to big rooms, arenas, whatever have you.

That, and I know that's like a cliche phrase, every person that's in a band knows that shit. There is no kind of drug that'll ever make you fucking feel that way when you're stepping on stage with fucking bubble guts and a curtain's moving back or, you know, lights are going down. Don't forget the gig, dick, that's, yeah. I forget the gig dick dick dick. I love that gig. But it's, but that shit is true, dude.

And that's the one time, you know, well, you know, that's the one time of day when you're, you know, doing what you do best. You can like, music, you know, playing music has multiple, like, multiple purposes, you know, obviously. But, yeah, like the how you get from playing live on stage. And it doesn't, doesn't matter. From the time I played my first show at, like, even like backyard shows and shit like that, you know what I mean? I mean, like, for kids that were fucking beating each other's asses, dude, in a backyard. You're just jamming for yourself. It's a crazy.

It's a crazy dopamine high, dude. Yeah. You know, or nailing a song that you're trying to learn. You're like, oh, hell yeah. And then you're pumped, you know? You can get gig dick without being at a gig. Absolutely. Absolutely.

But, you know, there's something like crazy inherently satisfying about strumming the last note of your set on stage saying, thank you very much. we'll see you guys next time, whatever, and walking off stage and just being like, ah, I left it all out there, dude. And coming off stage and just that, you feel it to you. You walk past the door jam of, like, walking off stage, and like cold air hits you, and you're just like, whew. You know what I mean? That's a sick-ass feeling that no heroin addict will ever experience, no one who's doing blow, none of that shit. Like, you couldn't make a replacement.

I can't. I never talk about that feeling of the feeling of getting off the stage. Yeah. Like, it's like. And they're both. It's different. The one before. going on stage the one coming after.

Yeah. Are different. Absolutely. The second one's a lot hotter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're both equally satisfied. Yeah. Like the, you know, the feeling of walking up and, you know, hearing kids go crazy

when the fucking lights pop up and, you know, hitting the first note of whatever song you're fucking playing. And then the last note, rolling off, getting off, you know, throwing a pick out, hitting somebody a fucking stick, dude, smacking a high five on the way off stage. Like, how many... Farting on your bandmates. Farting on your bandmates, dude, hitting them with that Dutch, in the bandwagon, dude, Garza's going to be the first one.

I'm giving you pink eye dog. It's happening. But no, like, that's a real fucking cool thing that, again, for as, I know we've talked about as Tee, like, for as big as the scene is and all that shit, it's really not. When you really stop and think about the people that get to do what we do for a living, it's by comparison to the people on the planet, dude, it's a fucking small percentage. And it's even wilder that, that, We do something that leaves a lasting effect on people around the fucking world.

And that ties into him being like when we're working on our craft and creating songs and writing an album and all that stuff. It is something that I think about all the time. It's like, damn. You know, somebody, okay, like Kobe Bryant, you know, rest in peace or whatever. That man left a fucking legacy behind. He'll be remembered forever as the goat. You know what I mean? The music and albums that artists and musicians put out will be around for the rest of time.

that shit will live long after we're fucking dust, which is a real crazy and wild thing to think about that. At some point, we'll be considered a fucking oldies band, which is really weird. You know what I mean? Well, we're living in a time where we're already. Yeah. You know, the cleansing record is considered old school.

It's a classic death core record. Yeah, it's a classic death court. I heard somebody say that shit and I was like, that's weird. Yeah, I'm still alive, man. Yeah. I think I might have been telling him when we were at the B&B after one of the tracking days or whatever, I was like, I forgot who's fucking car. They were listening to the radio. And it was on fucking K Earth 101 on oldies. And they were playing STP. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. I had to stop and check my pulse for a second. I was like, wait, this is old now? And I was like, that record came out in 1991. That was fucking 30 years ago. I'm like, mom come pick me up. I'm scared. What was oldies in the 80s? And stuff from the. the 50s.

Same thing. I hate thinking about that. I know it's a very real thing. Well, you gotta think. Technology moves much faster. Oh, absolutely. Things, you know, from the 50s to the 80s sounded hell of different.

I mean, you had, you know, a myriad of things that came out that helped the recording to make musicians better. So by the time the 80s rolled around, yeah. So now, you know, you listen to STP and you listen to the same butt rock bands that are out right now, they're sounding pretty similar

because they had stuff that came out around the same time. So to us it's even more that. But think about it from the perspective of the younger generation who hadn't heard stuff recorded the way SDP recorded, which was to no-click. Everybody's playing at the same time.

They're all sitting in these big ass rooms. What they're used to is stuff being a whole record being recorded by just Garza by himself on his computer. sounding perfect, edited, sounding pristine. They recorded core at third encore.

Oh, no shit. Right across the street from where we did the virtual tour. Oh, shit. All together in the same room. In the bedroom. The term retro, though. Who are you talking about? STP.

That album, Core. I had no idea. Apple Core. It was right around the Northridge earthquake, too. I learned that while we were at the virtual tour. But, no, that term retro, the term retro, I remember when I was in like middle school or whatever, not shit, I was in elementary school.

Like my cousin became like a hippie, you know, but in the fucking 90s, you know? So like my whole family was like, oh, a 90s hippie? Would that just be grudge? You know? I mean, yeah, kind of. But like, no, he was into whatever, hippie shit.

I don't fucking know. The shit you're into, no. He listened to the spin doctors, you know, for sure. But I remember the term retro, learning the term retro and then I remember once we got involved in the music industry and like we were talking about corn and slip knot and like you know band and Deftones that were like from the early 90s

I was realizing I was like wait no like now those bands are retro yeah like those are the retro bands like for our our world Deftones has been a band since 88 that's weird super weird super weird so is cryptopsy

damn flow you know fucking morbid angel, dude. 88, dude. Oh, Bordid. I was three. Us three, they were blasphied. Dude, Aborted started in like 98, right? Aborted's pretty old.

Shout out of Bordid. Shout out of Bordid. About Aborted, though. When I didn't even get the suicide silence gig, I tried out for the band, and then you guys gave me a CD. We were like, learn these songs, and it was you guys playing at the showcase,

and I remember it was Mitch going like, give it up for Aborted. They were the headliner. Oh, yeah. I'll never forget that, like, I learned suicide silence music from a live at the showcase opening for a boarded.

Wow. Live set, which is pretty pretty cool. What year was that, like 2005? Yeah, it was 2005. I think the show that you guys gave me was probably from that year, I would imagine, 2005. Damn.

We couldn't just drop, too. Yeah. And we're, that was a hype record, dude. Yeah, dude. That record was still in the state. I was going to say, that's still a hype That's a sick-ass title.

Gormageddon? God, damn. It's the new burger at McDonald's. The Gormageddon's. Oh my God. I'm loving it. Should we just tell the corn guys

to call their next record Corn Mageddon? Corn Mageddon? Every band. Everyone just make a fucking Slip-Nod. Slip-N-Mageddon. Slip-N-Megedon.

What about a spaghetti dish? What about Horn-Meggaden, dude? Horn-Meged. It's happening, guys. That's my great uncle on my mother's side. That's an old Horn-Mageddon. Boy, I'm hungry. Oh, my gosh.

I had that sprouts has his, like, vegan buffalo pasta. Why did I try that? So good, man. I had that before I came married. Probably not enough. Probably not enough. I wanted, like, a burrito. Of course, just a classic meat of cheese.

We're in Santa Ana right? Yeah, bro. We're four minutes from fire. There's an awesome. California burrito California burrito calling my name. Everything. Everything.

Dang, dude. You know what's crazy? After so long, Mark was talking earlier about, like, your intention. It's crazy, like, where I'm still living it. Like, my first show

was seeing corn, Rob is on being 99, and seeing corn, I'm like, I want to tour with them. I have to. I have any means necessary. And you made it happen. It's weird.

It's weird that tour that we did what what year was that i always forget if it was 2015 or 2016 2015 yeah i was like i forgot like that that tour happened and it means more now now than when the tour's happening because that tour was kind of a blur i don't know what it was it was like it was too much like i mean you're you're like talking like a life goal a life goal for the band as a in individuals and then like for that that happened after Mitch was still like a big like what like what the fuck and the timing of you Eddie

and like the way things has happened and then the tour to happen and then you're you know you're seeing monkey walk by you're like he's like a real person holy shit I think the reason why that whole tour was such a blur is because we all knew we were about to jump off a bridge

not true like we all knew that we were about to go work on a record that we knew it was a dive into the unknown and it was kind of like everything that was happening at the time, we were already preparing so much to just fucking do whatever the fuck we wanted

and not give a fuck. Garza, you and I were waking up every day at the crack of dawn, going for hit, like, H-I-I-T sprints, then doing about an hour of yoga. I forgot about that. Before going to lunch.

This was every day on tour. We'd have monkey walking, by being like, damn, you young bucks. And we were like, we're just trying to stay young bucks because we knew what the next thing was coming. And we knew that we had to be mentally, like, ready. So for me, that's why that tour. But ultimately, I spent every day of that tour

feeling like a kid. Yeah, same. I was very much in the moment in those days. It's awesome. And it was something that, man, I'm so grateful that that happened. my life. It was, it was almost to the, almost to the 20 year date of when I saw corn doing issues, you know, releasing issues and putting that out and playing at the Oakland Arena. You know,

that was huge for me and seeing them. I stood out in line from like noon until when I left at midnight, you know, got picked up and to be playing, you know, with a band of that caliber. and to be out there and putting what at the time was some of the best live performances I've ever done. You know what I mean? I was aiming for something that was further than I needed to aim, you know, just because, just because I wanted, I was always striving. I'm always going to strive to be the best. I want to be the best. You know, regardless of them.

You weren't just lifting to live. No, I was not lifting to live, dude. I was looking at it closely. Very closely. That's all it comes down to. Bitch-ass parasite. No, yeah, I think really, though, also living that tour

like we were kids is also why I don't feel different. Facts. Look back like, what happened? I think I was sober as shit on that tour. Honestly, I think it was just smoked weed. Yeah, what a crazy tour. We're like just hanging out, and then you see

John Davis walk in our room. It just doesn't seem real, like, oh, there he is. I'm just going to ever taney. It's not there. I just keep fucking practicing what I'm doing what the fuck I was doing. It's like, damn, like, they're just fucking hanging out, dude, trying to hang out. Or Brian, like, just long fingers popping his head around. God, dude. Hey, guys. What the hell? What are you doing hanging out with us?

Head just wanted to hang around and be around Dan Kenny while he was super wasted because head's sober, and he just wanted to vicariously be fucked up with any of us, basically. He's like, I'm not going to smell your breath or anything. anything. Just don't worry. I'm just gonna, like, watch you be silly. All right? Were you, were you fucking D.K. kick ass around him every night or what? I turned up. I turned up. It was just so much fun. Because after you got to, after you played a sick ass show, you still got to watch fucking corn. That's, that is pretty sick. Not only that, but corn doing their self-titled. Insane. God, damn, that's right. This brings up, like, so many

memories of mine where it's just like I used to grow up thinking that if you were going to open for Slayer that the whole crowd would hate you. I always thought like you open for these big bands like everyone's going to fucking boo you off the stage. You know? So like it

goes back to like a memory that I have which I probably said this a million times before but like we played with Slayer in 2009 right? Yeah. So like we we were, we played with them at the Spokane Knitting factory, I believe.

And it was just us and Slayer. And like 2009, you weren't even like barely 20 years old, you know. Like we were fucking kids. And we started, and that was the first day of this tour, which the next day was going to be in Canada where we started in like fucking huge arenas. Hockey arenas. Yeah, hockey arenas with Megadeth, Machinehead, and Slayer. I don't even remember the order.

But we had this one show with them and I remember like, oh, they're going to fucking hate us. You made me nervous before that show with all of your shit talking. Yeah. I was like, oh, I wasn't that, that extremely nervous yet. But the words you said to love, they're going to hate us. I was like, really? I grew up thinking like that. Like, I just thought like, you know.

Hey, but after like the first song on, you're like, oh yeah. No, it's fucking way crazier than that. That does happen, though. Like, I played with Danzig and they chanted Danzig during our set. That stuff does happen. You know what I mean? And as a death core, Death Corps was, believe it or not, not revered back in the days by death metal and metal dudes.

They fucking hated Death Corps. And if you were a Death Corps band, of course you're going to go up there. I wouldn't even though. I understand you. And us, and like, not for nothing. Like, I say this too. We didn't start a Death Corps band. No.

You know, we didn't start a band to be Death Corps. We just started a band. That, you started a band. And people don't realize that. All the way back to whatever. Like, either way, that fucking Slayer show. and I think about it with the corn the way it lines up

and mayhem with Slipknot and like all these things but that fucking Slayer show when the lights went out and we're in the back and we're about to fucking start playing in our intro rolls the lights go out

the crowd goes fucking nuts and I remember thinking oh fuck they think we're Slayer and then like we go out there and fucking murder it's still my favorite show I've ever played my entire fucking life and it was so fucking good I wish there was footage from that

there probably is it's got like it live somewhere What did you mean? Like backstage footage? That or just like seeing us It probably is. It probably is.

But that's still, that was fucking insane. But it's like when you get done playing and you're opening for one of your favorite bands, any of them. And then you get to fucking hang out and watch the band play. Dude, it's the best feeling. No wonder it's a fucking blur. Yeah. Yeah, that's another one of those highs. Uh-huh.

Totally. The shit you dreamed of. It's happening. We talk about this all the time, but we, call the general public, gen pop. That's what we call people. People on the outside of

the little fence. And that's literally all backstage is. It's literally backstage. There's nothing special about it. It's a sink and a pisser and a fucking an empty room with a flickering light with a weird midget in the corner. And some fucking and some nature valley bars, dude.

And one banana that's been half eaten by a rat. That's what's going on backstage. And, you know, you talk about gen pop as if you don't come from gen pop. But the reality is that you come from gen pop. We all do. We all do. We were all those kids.

I'm standing around. Whatever I can be. Being like, hey, dude, you want to, should I jump in the pit? Come on, Larry. You know, dare me, bro. Dude. Oh, God. And that's us, you know.

I think about, which also ties into suicide sounds, too, was like, I think it was Ozvest 2005, which I didn't really know you guys back then, but we all ran into each other at the show, like, kind of knew each other. But I remember being in the pit for Lamb of God and falling and fucking scraping my knee and it was mud and blood. And I was just like, fuck this. Oh, that was all pissed, fucking wearing my fucking denim vest and shit. And then when we did mayhem, it was only three years later, 2008. So three years later, we're on tour and playing with Slipknot and like all these sick bands. And I I remember being at the same venue that, you know, we ran into each other and saw OzFest.

And I remember just being like, oh, this is where I was supposed to be the whole fucking time. Like, I'm supposed to be chilling back here. I'm not supposed to be fucking falling in the piano there. Like, fuck that. Like, I want that nature valley in the corner. Is that right? Done with that banana? Like that is that right?

Are you done with that banana? Are you going to finish that? Are you going to finish that banana core? Wow. It's crazy how quick shit would change. I always felt that way, man. I would go to shows. even at that corn show

I remember feeling that way. I remember screaming as loud as I can because I hadn't even seen Rockstar. I don't think Rockstar had even come out yet and I wanted to scream loud enough to be able to get pulled on stage just to sing one note on the microphone in front of all those people.

That right there is something that I fully, fully remember. Like, it's never... That right there is, I don't think it's ever going to go away. And, like, I think that's what keeps me here. I think that's the one thing that makes me, when I do want to, like, quit, end it all, walk away from it. I think that's the thing that keeps me here is that when I was at those shows in the general public, I wanted to be on that stage more than anything.

And that's why I go and eat that half a banana, and that's why, you know, you write the records, you complete them, and you suffer through them, you suffer through all the 58 hours of work that you have to put in to be able to celebrate the 10 minutes on stage that you do get to enjoy. Yeah. Absolutely. Having people hear the things that you make, that was something that I always was like

really, really all about where I was just like, man, I just want fucking Shagrath or fucking somebody. Like when I was a kid, like I was way into black metal and shit. Or like, you know, that era of black metal. Like, man, I just want to throw my demo on the stage and have them hear it, you know? And now

it's just like, dude, I get to fucking record music and people hear it. Like, that's fucking cool. Now you text with some of those people. Yeah, you know, now it's like, crazy. So, man, we've got like, oh, I got that guy's phone number. What the fuck? Sometimes it's just like, I'm so happy

to experience this in my body. Yeah, I can't fucking believe it sometimes. Call your mom. Hey, I got this guy's number. I got a guy's number. I got a guy's number. Like, D.K., how pumped for you when you score George's number, dude? That was, like, 20 years ago, dude. Look, you're still horned up even now.

That's true love. He's my big brother. That's true love. Never goes away. Dan King, when was the first tour you ever did? Selling merch for Severed Savior on the Cannibal Black Dahlia Tour? What year? 2004.

What happened on that tour? Didn't the bus catch on fire? A&LAPS. A lot of bus. I almost died of the bus, dude. It burnt down in Katie, Texas It was like 115 degrees outside

Wait, this is this? Seriously? Yeah, there's footage on it. Damn. You could have made that story way sicker, dude. That was the worst fucking story I've ever heard. I don't like to relive that. Mark, you mean, the sick setup too. It was sick setup.

Yeah, bus burnt down Texas. It was real hot. It was real hot. Oh, my. He was giving you gems right now, dude. Yeah, dude, the generator caught fire to the back of the bus and I got ripped.

out of my bunk in my boxers by Murray and he was like, get out of the bus and I was like, I was a hungover 19 year old kid. And I was like That hangover doesn't have shit on your hangover anymore. I walk out of the bus and just my box is burning my feet on the ground and it's just like a kid to go back on the bus.

It was gnarly. That day in the office. It's crazy. I've seen that video. Yeah, but that was my first tour. I was like, well, what can be worse than this? It's only up until up for now. Hey, see, but that's That's what I was going to say

I think it's supposed to be downhill, no? You can only go up from here, but, you know, like, it's so good. That's the day of my life is the day of the day of, I'll tell you something. You know what this reminds me of? Right now. That was, uh, it's fucking reminds me of right now.

What the hell? May and Kenny, hammered at like three in the morning, drinking, eating, drinking chicken nuggets. Drinking chicken nuggets. Drinking chicken nuggets. I know, he's putting a nugget in my mouth and just dripping the sauce in there. Dan bought two 20-piece nuggets and was feeding me nuggets every 10 seconds.

Because your bunks right below mine, so you just see a creepy hand just come out with a nugget. And then he just thought, yeah, he was going out like a little fish. And that's just a memory from a couple of months ago. Yeah, that was a last tour. That sounds like chicken nugget love, dude. Yeah, I mean, you remember how Chris Farley in the movie who'd eat fries and then just like suck the ketchup packet? I still do that with Del Taco, Del Scocho, dude. Pro move.

Take a bite. One of my favorite memories is eating ketchup filled French fries with you at some shitty diner in 2006. Some shitty diner. It was all of us. and I think Alex was the one who ripped a French fry in half

and then Oh, it's one of the red squeeze bottles and then all of us did it for the rest of the tour We're like, this is the best thing ever That's a pretty ketchup and fused fries That's game changer right there

Dude, dude, Jack the box got this new sauce called good good sauce Good good sauce Sounds good It's real good I don't even know What do you put it on? What do you put it on, Dan?

Burger's But I don't even know what the flavor is. It's a flavor I've never really even had. It's a mystery airhead. It's a mystery airhead. You just don't know what it is, but it's good. It's a lohemian goat, actually. I would doubt it.

Only Dan Kenny would know that there's a new sauce at Jack in the box. Dang. I saw it on the window driving by and it made me want to go try it. They googled it? No, I saw it. We know they put the new shit on the restaurants. I saw it. I was like, I need to try me some of that good stuff.

I need to try me some of that. I think I might want to try some of that. We're doing pills. It's the logical next step for you. I drive by Jack in a box off, and I'm like, man, what loser eats there? You're a bass player does. Dude, they have the tacos still

the shittiest thing, but they're so delicious. They suck. They're delicious. They are not. It ain't delicious coming out in my ass. I'll tell you that, my mom. Yep. But those fucking cinnamon bites are, that's for it.

Just talking about how shot that place is, and then he's like, but, you know, but they said... I've been there at 3 a.m. It's fine. Whatever. Hey, it's the place that's always there for you. No, I'm... I've never eaten that jack-in-a-box. It's open until... It's open 24 hours, so you need those after-bar tacos. You don't get them. Dude, Garza learned how to roll a joint, and now he eats it...

Now he eats it. Jack in the box at 4 in the morning. Thank you to YouTube. I found... It's the... It's the cone effect. It's like you're rocking. it like a cone and it is I just fell in love

with that method. It's pretty gratifying. It is. Garza just rolls joints. He doesn't even smoke them. The joy. It's like changing guitar strings but don't play guitar.

The joy on Garza's face dude, night one at the B&B when he rolled his fucking split. He was like oh, who wants to fucking smoke this thing? He was so pumped. I was like, it's a good looking fucking joint, dude. He's like, I did it all by myself. Oh my God.

And now he knows how to roll to joint perfection, dude. He's got it down pat, dude. The joint lord. Meanwhile, I'm smoking out of a fucking space, space drug, Puff Co. Fucking using an app to fucking smoke out of some shit. Future weed, dude. I feel like such a goober when I'm smoking out of that thing. Because it's just like, I'm using an app to smoke my weed.

Yeah, what the fuck? It's getting way crazy. People smoking out of like metal cones. Oh, wow. Using trash cans. Jay Kenney, I don't think those people are smoking weed, dude. I'm just going to say, I'm pretty sure. that's not what they're doing.

Bombs are getting so big and you need a fucking torch now? Are these people who are watching smoke? Do they fall over after us? That's a definitely That just reminded me of who were at the gathering

in the jungles and fucking James Lynch somebody offered him a six foot bong rip and we'd already been fucked up the whole day and then he just took a huge fucking rip and passed out at front house,

walk animal corpses playing. Holy shit. It was the fucking best shit ever did. Something from Beer Fest or something? Dude, it was the best. It was like he just went I saw him just fucking knees buckle. Head down.

He was down, dude. And that's a long way to fall. James Lynch is a tall boy, dude. He's a man. He was related to Paul Bunyan. Wow. Fucking ball punion. Great, great, great, great, grandpa.

Shout out to the Duke. Is he a Duke? Barron. Barron. Barron. Barron, James Lynch, dude. Baron von Lynch. Shamis, von Lynch.

Shamis. Well, boys, I think we cover it. a lot of ground. Do we miss anything? Man. Oh, everything, they miss me on some bullshit. That's it. That's it. That's it. Bitch has parasites. You guys miss the Garza Ernie beef, though.

We're in an active battle to see who can catch the Nardius fade on tour. You guys are going to buy crap. Garza is throwing fade punches all day. You guys are going to crack me up on tour. I already know it. It is on the way. It's on the way. It's common. Whatever I think that Ernie's got you,

you get him back hard. He's not wrong. He can keep up. Dude. Dingus battle over here. But eventually he'll fall to these massive shoulder fucking traps, dude. It's all right.

I'll carry you around on top. I know. I'm loading his gun for him right now, dude. I already know. Give him 30 seconds. I could see it on his face. He's formulating right now. You better watch out on the stage, dude.

He's got some secret tactics up there. My favorite was Garza walking in and going, ah, anyone has some Tylenol. my back really hurts from carrying all you guys and fucking

shit dude I was like what the hell he's like I get to think my back was finally starting to feel good today and you walked in and now my fucking

back's in pain again the moment I see Ernie my my fucking back starts hurting he's like damn I woke up today and got out of bed and shit didn't feel right

I knew you were close by he's like dude my back was fucking feeling good the moment I fucking hang on earning again man I got a sore back

dude he's carrying you back He told me, he texted me when he got home from having the lunch meeting with me. He's like, bro, my back's fucking killing me, dude. He got an urniated disc, dude. He got an urniated disc, dude. Oh, my gosh. And we're done.

And we were done. And that's it. Unfortunately, this is, this podcast is going to come out after the Keats Carnage tour comes out. I want to thank everyone that bought tickets because, I mean, a little backstory quick. But SS has never been a pre-sale ban. So to see these massive pre-sells and shows even selling out, I don't even know what I think about that. It's just, thank you. It's fucking crazy.

Like, literally, like, the first two Thursday of the tour was looking to be sold out. So thank you. I can't believe him. I'm pretty sure by the time of tour is over, we'd be like, what the fuck just happened? It just reaffir us, dude. Let's be serious. Shout out to fucking Lorna Shore for bringing the fucking heat to this tour. God damn.

These boys are on fucking fire. fucking fire. I know this is coming out in four months. And in four months, you know, with the turn of events and how the death course scene is, they might not be as hot. But, no, no, those guys are crushing. And, you know, Austin is, you know, one of the main dudes in that band. That's my baby boy right there.

We're going to see him a couple days. I've known that cat for a long time. I've seen him go from, you know, thugs to riches. And, you know, the man deserves everything that he has right now. And, you know, Will is a tremendous fucking dude. And the boys are really bringing some fucking awesome music out. Yep. Shout out to all the bands on the tour.

That's facts. Crazy. Crazy massive package. JJ and Dan at 33 and West, our booking agency. You put the tour together. It's, yeah, it's going to murder. And we're all still. Curated the tour of the years.

It's going to be chaos and carnage, guys. Oh. Oh my God. So much chaos. Carnifex, thank you. Lonest Shore, thank you. Angel Maker Signs at the Swarm, Distant. Pondon burning body.

Great, great lineup, man. Wins the plague for the West Coast shows, dude. Oh, what's up? Yeah. Dude, about to be just a, about being party today. Thank you bands for a great tour because we're talking like it already happened. So thank you. It's because we know it's going to be sick, though.

That was a great tour. That was a great tour. That was pretty tight, right? I think we all could be tour, guys. We're about to play it, but that show was sick. It's mostly going to be sick because I'm just. just going to carry everyone in Garza on my back, the entire tour, dude.

I was relying on it, dude. I'm old, I'm shot, dude. We'll have a stick drop coat. I never have been so just respected in my entire life. It's all love, though, bro. Hey, I respectfully disrespect you with a lot of love, dude. I'll buy you pizza, don't worry. That's disrespectful.

Well, thanks for having us, Gars. Thank you guys for all being here, man. I can't believe we got the whole band here. Yeah, dude, full band podcast. How about our name? Holy shit. I don't know if I've ever seen one. So I'm fucking pumped it happened.

This is either going to drop the same day as the first song of our new record or at least a week prior. So if you're listening to this, watching this, new music is either out in the week or out now. So I hope you enjoy it. You've heard the process about it. You've heard the backstory of it and how much we enjoyed writing it for all you. Yep. So we can't wait for you to hear more of it. And yeah.

So check out us on Instagram The band name And we're trying to get on TikTok somehow So if I don't know how Because if you don't know Our band name is banned from TikTok And It's a sensitive trigger word these days

Apparently the word suicide is triggered And a part of me saying that Part YouTube's part going to yank this episode So hopefully you see this We can just use Unalive silence dude That's the term now dude Fucking whack

So insane insensitive as bitches. We just got to pull a Panterian just call ourselves Suicidio. Ooh. All right.

All right. Damn. Oh, do you think it's banned in other languages too? Oh, I don't know. We should

finally be Suicidio, silencio. Oh. Sweet. Siam. Hell of fancy, dude.

Could we finally? We have enyas on the fucking tops of the yeah, dude. Yeah. Let's start

looking into that. I bet we can make that fly. Well, sick. Well, everyone, thank you for

listening and watching. Until next time. Later. Bye.