Garza Podcast - 40: SLAY SQUAD

Episode Date: August 8, 2022

Slay Squad is an "ghetto metal" band from Rialto, California. We talk about how their song BEAM was inspired by Brahim's dad being shot and killed, how the offer to play Sumerian's NO COVER came a day before, Linkin Park being serious business and much more! SPONSORS: Click this link to purchase from Sweetwater & help support the podcast: imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB

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Salute, dude. Yes, sir. The Garza podcast. We are. We are here live as fuck. Yeah. Well, today we have almost a full band of Slay Squad. Yes.

Shout out cheese. Shout out queso. There's cheese. in my wallet. Shout out to your DJ. Yeah, great, great dude. Thank you for last minute.

Coming through, Gordo, thank you. Of course. Because I was like, can we do a full band podcast? I don't know. I got really nervous about it. But then once the, when we went off the went so well and the conversation flow was so, like, flowing.

And I was like, okay, it's actually doable. So thank you guys for all coming through. I'm honored, man. Live-wise. We're honored, man. We appreciate it. You have no idea. She's telling you outside, but, like, serious full-circuit for us,

especially coming from, like, the I.E. And, like, the So-Kal death course scene, like, serious business being up in here for us. Wow. Well, it goes, yeah, I mean, I listen to you guys, and I fucking love what you guys are doing, straight up. Like, I saw you guys a chain reaction. I'm like, oh, my God.

And I was standing with the, the legendary label guy Mike Gitter and we were just watching you guys and I was like and in my head I'm like that's how you do it

that's how it's done like someone I found out later I think it was a friend of yours that got like knocked out yeah I was actually my girl's stepdad

oh are you serious and then yeah oh my goodness that was a whole that's like a whole crazy situation wow but like in the nutshell

my girl's stepdad came to the show. Yeah. And it kind of sucked because imagine like your girl's family's just like, yeah, we'll go to your little boyfriend show or whatever. Yeah. And they bring everybody out, the aunts, everybody.

Yes. And then I told this nigga. Oh, my. I said, bro, just come on stage. Like, you could just post on the side and he wanted to do, uh, he's like, no, I want to be right here. You know, he's passionate. He loves metal.

He goes in metal shows. He's, uh, he grew up in the scene. and he ended up getting knocked, which was scary. How it looked was scary at the show. But I feel like everybody handled it well. Like shout out to the people that come to our shows. I feel like they always handle those situations really well.

They compliment how we handle it as well. And they ended up getting married about probably like two weeks after that show. And I was with him and he was okay. He was in good spirits. He was clowning about it. Like he was more just like damn I got hit like you know he kind of had that more attitude about it he was really cool he was making jokes about it so it was good yeah we were like concerned because it was like the I haven't seen something like that since like you know

back in our day where like someone gets hit the house lets go on the show fucking we see that almost every time we play like we just like we just had this last show where it just this weekend it was like back to back and each one was like god It's specifically the same song. Yeah, open one, bro. Open one. So we had San Diego, LA, and Rialta. The San Diego one, during that song,

the squabble happens, and then it turns into like a 20-person brawl that spills out to the outside of the crazy show. And then we play L.A. She gets turned to, you think it's about to be a fight, but then, like, Allison and some dude, they just, it's like, they ended up, I think they might have left together by the end of it.

Honestly. It started, like, dry humping in the, They start tussling. And then I'm thinking, Alison is our sister. Shout out Allison. We go in, she goes to all our shows.

We'll even do shows out of state. And she won't say shit. Just, she's there, though. Like, queen of the pit for her. Yeah, like, she goes crazy. And she's tussling with this dude, but then it starts off tussling. And my first since he is like,

okay, motherfucker fucking with our sister type shit. But then they just start, she's in his arms. And I'm grinding. And then. And then we're just like, okay, well-baked. It turned to like a freak dance party, like. It got freaky.

And then to show on Rialto, someone got hit pretty. It looked exactly like chain reaction. He got hit, eyes rolled back. One of that situations where you were worried about how you hit your head on the ground as opposed to how you got knocked. You feel me? Oh, wow. He got hit. And then he was good, though.

He was a good sport about it. But it's like, like, as like wild as we are, like we also are. we are very concerned for people's safety. Like we don't give a fuck, but bro, we give a fuck. Like, we don't, we don't, like, back in the day, maybe, I remember back in the day, like, oh, someone got hurt or whatever, you know, but once you season in this shit, you're like, bro, I don't want fucking nobody to get hurt, bro.

Like, it's like, we're not little kids anymore. It's like, you want everybody safe. Have a good release, you feel me? You're like, now I have to fucking, like, deal with this show for the next six to eight weeks, you know what I? Oh, yeah. So we're definitely big on like, bro, you knock someone down, pick them up, uh, someone gets hurt, you know, give them space, uh, all that.

Like, we're big on that for sure. Yeah, like you want to get out there, vibe, have a great time, get a little, little violent. Yeah, yeah, little violent. But you don't want you out of, yeah. Yeah, we come from fucking like the I.E and SoCal hardcore and shit. So we're not going to be like, you know, everybody, you know, hug don't touch each other. You know what? We've thought about that, though.

Because the lyric that gets everybody fucked up is because we have a breakdown. And right before we're like, punch somebody in the fucking face. I'll do it. And every single time, that part is when it goes down. And then we'll always make jokes. Like, maybe we need to say everybody hug each other right now and some bullshit like that. Holy shit. Dude, that's fucking badass.

It was just because we had the whole band here, can you guys give a quick, like, introduction to who you are? and what you do in our Slade Squad, just so people are watching, listening. Yeah, I'll start. Tim Ryan, I'm the drummer. Addie boy. Yeah. A little beat down, influence with some metal in it.

Some hip-hop. Talk about it. Gordo, the guitarist, band manager. I'm just the guitars. I'm just the guitars. Throw it in there, dude. Okay, that's cool. All right, stick, play bass,

design the shirt. Yeah. Cap. Let's do it. Baham Goose. I do a little bit of everything, videos. I am also vocalist. And, yeah, do a little bit of everything.

Sick. Key, low key, the motherfucking young guy, aka the despicable one, aka the one you hate the most, the most hated, you know what I'm talking about. Being this motherfucker, you know what I'm saying, keeping this shit true, keeping this shit, period, you know what I'm saying? Representing the 11th, keeping that shit first and foremost.

Squad? It's our big, honey, initially. So got to always, you know what I mean, make sure we pay homage. Shout out to everybody who listen to this and, you know, feel like they listen to their self. I am you. I'm your reflection.

I'm your mirror. You did. Holy shit. So where are you guys originally from? Our town. Rato. Rialto. I said Arto.

Rialto. Our town, the I.e, is where we originally from. That's like what raised us. That's also what influence our sound as well. The diversity, that is where we all met. Yeah, that's where, that's our stomping grounds. Like, for real, for real. Wow, so you guys just had like a home show.

Yeah. The last show, that little three-pack was like right there at home. We haven't been back home since maybe the last bowl show. Yeah. The middle of last year. BLM. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

Yeah. Literally. We just got demonetized right there. So, mind's the world, let's keep it going. No, I'm cool. Wow. Yeah, so I assume the show went well. Since when did it start, we're like, okay, like, the lights are coming on pretty much every show.

Like, when did that start for you guys? It's crazy because we've been through multiple flows, so multiple stages. So we've had times where the lights are coming on and you're like, man, the lights is on and that motherfucker flick right back. off. Like, I feel like we've done this shit at least maybe three times in our career where we've, we were purely rap. Yes. Or if you take it fully back, we're purely hardcore. And then the lights were on. Part of those lights being on was you saying we're the shit. Oh, wow. A long ass time ago. Damn. That's us going, the lights are on. And then it gets dim. Then we go into, you know, we'll just, I'll just kind of timeline it quickly. But it's like,

Like we start going into just rap. We're kind of getting a buzz, but then the lights get dim again. Then it's kind of more hardcore. Lights get bright. We're doing a lot of observatory stuff. Then pandemic hits, relationships change. Then we start combining, and now we're here. You know, once we combine everything that we've,

experience and gone through over, I mean, how many years probably? Seven, eight years. Yeah, seven, eight years. That's what's getting us into the position now. But we've gone through that phase multiple times. And that, it's hard to say. It's like three different years. And I'm bad with years.

I'm sure one of you guys could bring up the years of like when. Yeah, it would be like high school would be like we've, when we all like initially like met came together, we in a band together and shit in the SoCal hardcore scene, going to like showcase, RMC, nitty-gritty, like all these places that kind of like help build like that foundation for us. And of course still, you know, we black, we in black families,

we live in a place like Rialto, which is special because you're able to have all elements simultaneously. No one telling you you can't do nothing and also like open opportunities to do whatever you got your mindset to want to do. So it kind of like made it for me personally in a situation where everything that I'm seeking in my personal life or being in a band or going to the shows or shit like that is able to be fully like flourished while at the same time sharing a room with my older brother being around my family and still being, you know, on the post of the culture and staying in tune with all elements of these other different types of music that like stay prominent in our minds the whole time that kind of like help build a foundation at the same time that makes something like this. possible organically. Not something we ever really had to try to do more so something that's just natural to us because of, you know, the people that surround us during these growth times. So this is, that's like the childhood type shit. And then as we kind of like became 18, 19, 20 as

adults, that's kind of in the same time that the scene around us died down. So it became like less opportunities to be playing shows as the band that we was, less places for, you know, the scene in general to be able to flourish while also everybody's kind of like exploring. This is like, like 2009, 10, 11. So this is also like a natural time where hip hop is kind of not like researching, but becoming the most popular thing again. It became open. That's like when like the future came out, ASAP, all that,

where it was like not just like if you're into rap, you have to wear baggy clothes and sell drugs. It's like you could skateboard. You could be this. It's always been like that in Rialto. Realso's a place where it's like there's the skaters, there's the Cholos. There's like the hood niggas. Yeah, you never know.

You'll see like, you'll see like, somebody by the cover. You'll see some dude with like plugs and has a gun on you. and he'll be like, what the fuck is metal? Like, this is just, like, oh, wow. He just got this. And he got a metal shirt on him. And he'll rob you and skateboard away. It's really like that for real, where we're from.

So that's why, like, that type of foundation was able to be also natural when we got more into just, like, freestyleing with each other or trying to get into the local rap scene, you know what I mean, going to do shows over there. But then that also became, like he said, like a time when the lights became them again. because it's like this shit weird we don't really like vibe with these motherfuckers like that like that we got to do our thing again so we that's when we came up with the idea like fuck it like let's just pull the band out and like it was like a Halloween show and we was like fuck it let's just uh pull the band out and like do some breakdown shit at the end of like this song or whatever to kind of freak everybody

out and fucking it did what it is like keep doing it what was that what was that what was that really hit shot like type business and it really made like an impact on art like whole you know at that career, you know, in the rap shit, like what the fuck? Like, kind of like one of those things like you always get up to, like, just as you growing and shit, like, ah, just be yourself. You know what I mean? Just do the shit you want to do. Fuck what you feel like you're supposed to do or what you may think you have to do to

kind of like mesh with a certain pocket of people. Like, fuck the bullshit. Always be yourself. Always do what you feel like doing. And that's just what we felt like doing at the time and it works. So we just kind of like over the next following years, kind of just learned that over time and shit. Like at first it kind of became like it will pull the band out every once in a while.

if the show calls for it, if we feel like it'll be a smart thing. But there's been some of our biggest shows, we didn't even have any band. We just kind of like... Pure rap. But just naturally, on the other end, because we come from those

like hardcore metal foundations, our rap music still induced that same energy, the same moss feel, that same, like, high, intense feeling. So that's why we, you know, it still gained the same effect, but we didn't have to have the whole band in it. And then we just, like over that,

like you said, with the pandemic, like 2018, 19, 20, like, it really leaned more into like a hybridization, like where it's like a simultaneous type thing. We're trying to keep all the flavors and all the things that we can do kind of like more like together as opposed to like one and in the other. Because I remember the first years of us doing this shit, we were like adding band shit at the end of a rap song that already existed, you know what I mean? Kind of like meshing them like that on the ends.

But then like we kind of try to like make it more braided as time. progress. I remember. There was like a gold rush, like to add on what you're saying, I was like there was a gold rush moment when the pandemic hit in all aspects. Shout out to SBA. Let's just keep it in being. There was a gold rush.

There was a modern day digital gold rush similar to the California gold rush that there was opportunity. And really it's crazy because when you look at it now at the time, you're thinking like, I got to do all this shit. All you had to do is dropping the pandemic. That's all you had to do. Everybody was not dropping. Everybody was going, we're fucked and just keeping back.

Freaking out. So really, the last time the lights got bright and they've been bright ever since was pandemic. While everybody was chilling doing their thing, we just decided to drop. And I can't even say it was like, we dropped 20 videos. No, we just really dropped one video. And it just, that's really what got it. We dropped Mongo. Mongo.

Produced with Morgoth. Shout on Morgoth. And that, like, made it, uh, the lights really bright. And then ever since then it's just been consistent. So then we do Mongo. And then, um, we end up on this TV show, no cover. How is that? That was interesting.

Interesting. Good. Glad that we did it, though. It was random. It was random. Because it's a process to be on that show. Like apparently other people, like they paid for this application to be on. Oh, shit.

And they had to get reviewed. And they were already in the middle of filming. And they, Morgoth, shout out Morgoth again. It's like he showed them us. They showed them Mongo and they said, fuck it. Get them here right now.

So we got a call just saying like, hey, be here tomorrow. Do this. Really? Yeah. We almost didn't do it. And we, and honestly, like, yeah, just to be honest, like on some TV show shit, I'm thinking, like, off-rip, I'm like, this shit corny. Like, I'm just keeping.

I'm like, a TV show, like, we're competing. We think an American Idol is like, right? This ain't that way we're trying to do it. Yeah, we don't. My first time playing live. Yeah. His first time. Yeah.

I had just learned bass like three weeks before the show. Oh, my goodness. On some like, like, on some just like intuitive shit. Like, thankfully, like that shit lined up at that time because we was kind of like in limbo with a bunch of different situations just trying to figure out that aspect of it. Not really having no shows or nothing where we needed to have it like for a live presence or anything like that. But just, you know, fucking three weeks after he had stepped up and made it like, yo, I'll get the equipment. He didn't play no fucking instruments or nothing. Yeah.

Because Stick, like the thing about Stick, like he's been around us since the jump. Like he's always been around us. But the thing is like he would he would do designs. He would do Photoshop stuff. He would do, he would just do really anything that needs to be done. And then again, it's all about mindset, right? Like you could look at him and you go, when you understand him, you're like, if you just apply what you do to the design, you're going to be great. Because he really could pick up anything.

And, I mean, he could fucking really anything. It doesn't really matter. Anything that he puts his mind to, he can. get it done. So at a certain point, instead of looking for like the basis that you're like, who's the best basis? You go, who's the most determined and willing to invest in themselves and cares about it? I don't give a fuck how good you are. I care how much you care about this. Yeah. Where's your initiative at? Like, yeah. And the initiative that he puts in is not just into this, but also in himself in a brand. Like, it's like before we had to be.

stick, it was just like, basically I'm saying like we're adding somebody that also puts in that initiative also into his own shit and his just his own personality and who he is. So adding that to something like this, it's only an addition. And then we already know you're dependable because when we hit you to do some design shit, we got it. When we hit you to update something on the website or do this, you got it. So just do that with your base. just as a hummy just on some normal shit like you just know you can tell by the way somebody

cared itself and like how they respond when you call them it's like okay this is one of the main hummies that you you memorize their number for if you get arrested or you're like wow his number's only two numbers it's like for real it's an easy number it's one of them was like okay for show like like if you faded if your mind somewhere else you stress out about some shit like you know that motherfucker not only gonna pick up but it's that number you remember you know also to add on to that like how we're talking about like when we really started braiding the genres during a pandemic. That's like, before it was like, okay,

you could play bass or like sometimes Brahimi will hop on drums or whatever we needed to do to like have that breakdown element at the end of each song. But during pandemic, we're like, let's actually really fuse this. We need somebody who's really going to like play the bass. And that's like where Sticks stepped up. And also too, during that time,

that's when we were realizing we have to have the sound better and like kind of let our hands off of it. That's also when Morgoth came into the picture where we came across him through watching Finn with like punk rock. Oh yeah. Yeah. I saw him.

Chad to Ben McKenzie. Yeah, he was interviewing Morgoth. I saw that. I've always been a fan of Winds of Plague. And then I saw how he was doing like the beats for rappers and stuff like that. And instantly I thought this guy gets it like as far as the death metal and metal. And hit him up, see if he wanted to help us out with mom. We did that and instantly like he loved it and then he just started telling everybody about us

Yeah Honestly, Morgoth has gone crazy like he like so many people are like morgoth was telling me about telling me about you guys like it's like extremely instrumental Yeah, like we hear that so much so that's how the no cover thing came up like so many things came up because it's like now as part of it like we knew like him hearing our style Hopefully he would like it and it led to like so much more things because he literally just spread it like wildfire. Yeah. He did. He did.

He loved you guys. He didn't even have to. Yeah, he didn't even have to either. Like, that's the type of shit. Like, it's not like nobody asks for nothing. It's not like he said. He was like, I'm gonna do this type of shit. He's just taking the initiative because he really fucked with what we was doing.

Because he was on the show, you know what I mean? Like a lot of motherfuckers like, I'm not going to hit them to be on the show. I'm on the show. I want to win. That's how people would be. That's how a lot of people think. He just was like, nah, these guys are hard, you know? and in a nutshell,

because I feel like we're answering your question so long. Come on for getting the initial question. He was talking about how was the show? Yeah, now we're realizing like, oh shit, but in a nutshell, in a nutshell, that show was, it was interesting. It was crazy performing, imagine performing, and the bassist has never performed the show. At the same time, you get in there,

there's no audience, which we are, We feed off. We're fire. I will always say our live performance is really when you understand us. Like, if you've never seen us live, you have a semi-gras, but you will never fully understand us until you pull the fuck up on us. If you don't pull up on us, you ain't going to fully get us. That's when you go, okay, I get it.

That seems to be when we're like the most even in tune. So that show was interesting in itself. and then imagine like Alice Cooper is the judge. Yeah, we did not shit about none of it, nothing. We didn't know who was hosting or what the situation was going to be, what to what. We didn't see none of the other bands. We saw them as people outside, but we didn't get to watch each other's performances or nothing like that. So we just like went in there one by one and like fucking we just did our shit.

And they gave their responses, gave their reactions to it. Very interesting how that played out. I'm on faith. I'm going to get too descriptive, you know what I'm saying? But that was a very interesting situation in the way the panel was lined up and the responses we got from each of them hosts or panelists or judges or whatever you want to call them. Overall, it was cooler than we anticipated.

Hell yeah, that shit. That was definitely. Yeah, we didn't regret doing it by it. Even to this day, like, we go on tour and then people are, oh, I saw you on no cover and I came out to the show. They're only there from that. They're like, I don't, I'm only here because we've seen you guys on no cover. Like, we heard that on tour a lot of the time.

We heard that at some of these shows. Yeah, these past shows this weekend. We've seen you on. People from our own city in Rialto. Like, oh shit, like I saw you guys on the cover. I had to pull up. Yeah. Damn.

In your hometown. Yeah, that is so bizarre, huh? Right. That is crazy. But we were, like, in Kansas, and there was people, like, they go from, like,

three hours to see us because they saw us on a show. This dude had our logo tattooed on a show. Fresh. Like, it's still healing, and, yeah, it's all, like, it's fresh, like. Squat.

And no cover, definitely, like, shout out to the motherfuckers. For real. That's cool. They definitely helped. Give like a little seed plant, you know, for the, for the, because it was our first big tour recently, you know what I'm saying? On the idea. And so that, definitely as we went to these places, we ain't never been.

We ain't never seen. I don't know. No motherfucker in Kansas. Kind of the shit like that. Memphis. Like, watching Kansas and Memphis. Right. Like random at Minnesota.

All these crazy-ass places. I ain't never even thought about going and shit. You know what I mean? But like, it's kind of like planted a seed and made even a little something for us to step on while we got there. It was cool. They helped us out a lot. They came early. and shit because we opened up, you know what we went on tour.

Yeah, like, talk about going full circle. Like, even when they dropped that, like, they dropped it right before. We filmed that a while ago, and it dropped right before we went on tour, and it was just like perfect. Like, it wasn't our call to drop it like that. They, they, it just so happened to be dropping when we were going on tour. So it just like. And Beam dropped at the same time?

It wasn't a song, but it was the episodes of no cover. Oh. Yeah. We shot them a year ago. They had even started a little bit before that. the episode that we happened to be on was like that same time, that same like week soon as we started tour. Timing. And we dropped our biggest, our biggest drop, our most favorable, like, mesh of the, just, it was a very powerful track being.

We dropped that, literally that same week, too, without thinking or knowing that it was going to be lined up like that. Because, you know, you got to give time for, like, DSPs and, like, totally. So it's like, we just kind of like, oh, we'll drop it on this date. And then, like, we learned in between that timing, like, oh, shit, no cover's going to be dropping our episode this same week. And we started to tour. And we started to tour that same day. So it's like. Wow.

The divine timing for sure. You kind of wait for that. Like, Nipsey said it best. Like, how long to opportunity meet preparation? And we've been preparing for fucking shit. Since birth it, feel like. Oh, my God. What since you guys brought up, I want to talk about the song, Beam.

What did you come out saying the first verse? Yeah. What are you saying there? I was like, ever since I was a young nigga, conceded, if I ran into my pocket. Hoops Killer, I beam up. Oh, that story. And, yeah, like, just in a nutshell, like, because I don't want to go all crazy in,

but in a nutshell, in the timeline, what happened to me was basically in one week, this is a one week span. I get a message from, like, I'm a twin, so I've been raised with just my mom and my brother. Shout out Burhan. And I get a text, a DM. in Instagram with a picture of a guy who ultimately I found out was my dad. He says, do you know who this is? And this is my little brother.

He's like, I'm your little brother. This is your dad. I never, like how I was raising my household, like, it wasn't like, oh, my dad was, like, we just never, I just never talked about dad. That was not said in my household, like, just straight up. It was never a conversation. Me and my brother never were like, where's our dad? Like, it just was so normal that it never even crossed our mind.

And then I get that DM saying, do you know who this is? And I'm like, no. And then my little brother, he says, this is your dad. And he's like, he's trying to contact you. Let's say this was on a Tuesday. I don't remember the exact day, but this was on a Tuesday. He said, dad's going to call you. He's in Haiti.

My dad, he did construction. In Haiti, he built houses. And then let's say that's Tuesday. Friday, I get a message and he says, your dad got shot. And this is so random because when this happened, I was probably, I'm so bad with years, but let's say I was 16, 17, maybe even 18. I'm so bad with years. but going that long without hearing anything about a dad

or anything like that and then someone's saying, your dad's going to contact you and me and my brother are different. Now I'm all getting all personal. We're very different. Like my brother is, he's, he technically been the dad of the house. Like he's, I'm the evil twin, you know what I mean?

So he, uh, uh, I get that text saying, I get the call saying that my, dad passed and it just was like that what I just did where I just paused and just being like wait what like you get a random call it's you're 16 you went 16 years without anything then you get a call on a Tuesday saying this is your dad he's gonna call you this week and then Friday you get a call saying he got shot and it impacted me differently of course because I never knew him but why I bring up the

difference differences between me and my brother is because I always did yearn for that. I feel like there is a difference between how my brother felt about it and how I felt about it. And I did yearn for that. Like I'm very, I dig into stuff, whether it's gear, history, cases, politics, everything. I like to dig into things.

So my whole life, even though I didn't say anything to my mom about it, It was always in my head. And even in a, to even kind of go back a little bit, when my brother contacted me, I remember going to my mom and saying, I just walk in the room. My mom is super businessy. So I walk in the room and I say, my brother contacted me. He said, dad is going to call me this week, which this is the first time me and my mom have ever had a convo about this since I've been born.

And she's just quiet. Like when I say it, it's a quiet-ass room. When I say it, I'm just like, yeah, dad's going to be calling me. I got in contact with my little brother. I have a little brother. And then she's just like, it's just quiet, awkward. I walk out the room. Then my mom calls me in the room like, I'm so sorry, you know, that I reacted like that.

I am just in complete shock that you said that. But I think this is good for you. I could tell because at the time I was just on some bullshit. I was just fucking up. I really wasn't that focus. Then that same thing, I go back in the room that Friday and say, Dad got shot. He's dead.

And pretty much the same thing happened. It was just like, you know, so in a nutshell, basically that experience shaped me a lot. And I love to put just, like, I'm not a very, I'm not the best at explaining how I feel unless it's on some music shit. When you, if you, when I'm recording music, I feel like if you're really listening, that's where you can really understand me. Conversation, I'm working on that. Honestly, you know, I be like, I'm not the best at that. But when it comes to the music, that's when I give myself in. That's how that ultimately ended up up there.

Like it was something that I always wanted to talk about. And I originally had that hook on another beat. But then once we started creating Beam, literally right before I left to the studio, I'm talking about like probably an hour before I was leaving to the studio. I had a whole other verse. And then I'm playing it. I'm playing the beat, you know,

before I go to the studio to kind of get a feel for it. And then I start rapping that, and then my girl looks over at me and goes, you got to say that. You know? And, yeah, just some real shit, you know. Yeah, you know, when you, especially when we were talking about music, like, when you hear something, and then you're driving down. And then that part is just replaying in your eardrum, and you're driving. it was intro to that song. I'm like, and then

when you were singing that line and then when Kilo comes in, there's just something about that. It's just buried in my brain forever. I was just curious like what like, what like you met by that, Michael. Because if I'm, you know, I'm older and jaded, if I'm thinking about a part,

like I wonder what that deep level is, you know? It's deep. Yeah. Come on, cry. It's, bro. This is crazy. And then Kilo comes in and it adds like, I'm like, and, you know, I'm just like, what the fuck is going on?

You know, it's like a guy in a band, like an artist. I'm like, what are they doing? This is fucking nuts, dude. Yeah, the best artist is going to reflect real life shit. So, like, that tends to be the foundation for, like, most of our creation. And that's why that's why that song was a mixture of just, like, a lot of emotions. Wanting to get get back. That's what that song is about, you know.

I want to fuck that dude up. That did it. Yeah, the second part of that shit is more it's harder for me, in my opinion. And it's like that shit are like yeah Like you know He went to jail before I got some time of $5 a gang like Like man like that type of shit is like

That's type of shit that I want to ride the head He went on the game like let's go handle business Yeah Facts Like facts For real for real And that's why I appreciate hardcore Because you can really lay it out

Yeah You know I don't do much moshing These days But it's like That release Like a lot of people I don't understand hardcore.

They're like, why are you guys doing that? It's like, well, they're releasing. So those lyrics specifically being able to release that and just give that real shit. That's just how I feel. It is what it is. It's like, fuck that, nigga. Like real shit.

It's like, that's how I felt. And being able to release it made me feel better. And just, to submit that real shit. And that's why that song will forever be special. Yeah. It's a very special part. I don't hear it, but I definitely feel it.

Like for work. And that's something special you guys are doing with your music where like you don't have a choice but to like it. It's just like it awakens something deep inside of you. And that's what you're tripping out about you guys the most. It's like the whole premise of our music is like not, like a lot of rappers try to do the rock thing.

Like this will be cool. I used to listen to corn when I was younger or like a lot of like rock like I want to like Little Wayne I'll rap on this rock song But it's like this is we're really putting ourselves into this music like everybody always says like oh it's so authentic and it's like That's the only way we could that's the only way thing we know. Yeah It's like really really really us and how we grew up and everything we had to try too hard to do anything we wouldn't be doing Like it's not like organically created by just experiencing and living like I wouldn't be able to do one half of it properly without being able to like release and reflect on the other end as well like it's like all these elements all these sounds all these ways of expressing ourselves and shit i wouldn't be

able to get my pointer crop only only screaming you feel me like it's like it's definitely like ways of uh creation that we've learned throughout the years and shit and i think it all deserves to be like represented yeah yeah no gimmick at all it's just what we feel it's real real shit you guys would be surprised how many bands don't do that and especially when everyone puts their own layer of emotion and that's how we have your own sound you know you guys put you everyone puts their own thing and you have you guys have six layers which is more than most bands and it's fuck it's heavy and in both ways which is why maybe i gravitate to you guys so much we're like it's not just just just a sound heavy but it is heavy yeah you know it's it's you like you put out what you can't

put into normal conversations you just put in the music and people just like they started fucking punching each other in the face when you start playing you know that's wrong me when i said earlier like without even pulling out the band our other our rap music solo gave that same feeling and that same effect because it's some real shit it's it's reflecting and it's like expressing that same type of energy regardless of what type

of beat we own or what type of instrumental is behind it and shit you're about to fill me for sure for sure yeah yeah real shit and you guys have two sides of it too it's like once like a first of all you have very unique song titles and I I was very nervous to say the word manga because

I don't even know what that means I don't even know I'm saying it right I was like, I'm just going to say it and thank God someone said it before me. So thank you. I was like, okay, Mongo, I had her write. And the other song, Sachine. That intro as well, I'm like, that's when Mongo was like the first one I put on. I'm in the Jim and Day. I'm like listening to my okay.

It's like you took the two styles. You put it together in one song. And then you fine tuned it on I feel on this song. Where like you have like you stepped up on like as far as like the audio. audio quality where okay this is like okay now they're doing something yeah and they and they got my attention yeah it's cool yeah we call quality is kind of crazy yeah that's what I'm saying you can see the growth in our connections and just like ways of being able to like mix and master and just like people that can like handle the music and shit like yeah it's been like a journey loki I would say

since we was kids to this day like we're still like I always say like we're scientists mixing potions and like figuring out the workflow like even right now to this day I wouldn't say like we just have this like we go to this and then we go there. It's like we still figuring this shit out, especially the level that we plan on taking this and that we're going to take this. It takes that and it desert most importantly it deserves that like we don't just find one person. We're just like, okay, yeah, this is the way that we're doing it. It's like we really that care, we want that handled also with care.

Our level of care, we want that handled with care. It's very important to us. And, yeah, like, we're still figuring, you know, we're still figuring it out. Like, at the end of the day, it's like, people are still, okay, well, what's next? Like, it's like, we're still figuring it out. We true alchemists with this shit, for real. We still mix in potions. We still mix the elements.

We still discovering and experiencing and living and feeling this way through, like, this hybridization. That's my favorite word for it. Because, of course, you know what I mean? We all grew up on, like, like, Link and Possible. and shit like that and like the hybrid theory is like serious business and as I as I become as I become more aware of like they earlier stages and shit I don't know if it's like a new thing or what but like this is my first time like this year seeing like they archive footage and shit of their origins and shit like I'm like oh shit like I get it you know what I'm saying and it makes sense like how

they shit ended up being and how they ended up becoming and shit it's it's fire and uh for it like it made me it made more sense for it to be like my true foundation like for sure because that hybrid theory album was my first shit ever buying ever purchasing as a kid and shit I was like eight nine years old like serious like um because again like up until that point and even still throughout my adulthood I mean childhood adulthood adolescence whatever you want to call it um my brother my family has such a heavy influence as far as the things I'm listening to while I'm at home because I'm sharing a bro I'm sharing a room with him so he's my older brother about like four years and shit so he he big dog in the whole radio situation so we listen but it was I appreciate that

shit now because it's like we listen to the dip set we listen to conier early mixtapes Khan and Louis Vuitton Don, like being like keeping my finger on the post of the culture, also with a bunch of old school shit like Michael Jackson and Elder Barge and Switch and all that shit like that shit like it really kept all that shit flowing like through my like cerebral even when I didn't want it to while the same time I'm discovering fucking like my path went like Lincoln Park and then it went to like diving into like corn and like fucking system of a down and shit like that throughout those same years and then I came across headbanger's ball and that introduced me to like cannibal corpse

that was also my first time seeing from first to last and under oath and shit like that and um cannibal corpse uh low key bridge me into impending doom uh ironically and it was like okay like because um as a black being in a black family and shit as they see me going into like all these different types of music they're just trying to make sure I ain't get in no devilish shit

or no like too crazy as shit so trying to avoid that or at least seemingly avoid that was like a plus to me so when I came across like the Christian shit and like like that whole that whole scene like it was like dope to me to be able to show it off or be able to play it like oh you think this is some crazy shit but this they're talking about you know praising shit or like going to church and shit so it kind of like gave me that allowance and shit like you can't tell me shit with it with impending doom like on that type of level and then um then just that kind of like led me into like different bands within our local scene that because at that same time I was about like going from eighth grade to ninth grade and shit finding out about reato backyard shows and the rmc and showcase and the nitty gritty and all these local places and like heavier music and shit the culture of moshing my first years are going a warp tour to see all these bands i'm discovering on headbanger's ball or a my space and shit um that those whole years of development and you guys you know what i mean like you guys were close behind my first

years of uh or my first times discovering impending dune because this was all like throughout months i'm saying years but it was like fucking weeks months like i'm getting all this shit back-to-back through fucking line wire shout out to line wire i see them trying to make that resurgence through the nfts shout out to the motherfuckers like because they really had a huge huge like say so in the culture and what she was listening to how would you get that shit like it was like line my risk everything for real for real so I download hybrid theory with them with uh fucking getting them fucking oh no then Bill Clinton samples and shit behind and then discovering y'all first shit with like the fucking

family guy samples your drummer wearing the mask like I was at like some of the you guys's first shows wow I was at impending Doom's first ever show I used to go to see wins a plague when they were playing in backyards like yeah That whole IE shit, like, we were really a part of that. Super staple in the SoulCal hardcore. First show I ever went to was a Windsor Plague show. You probably don't even remember this, but we were in separate bands. I'm a little bit older.

I had a band called Graven Images. They had their band called When Only Darkness Remains. You would sometimes pull up to our shows, and we would like fan the fuck out. Like what the fuck, like the guitar is from suicide science this year. Wow. To add on to what you were saying, like with Sashin, Setshin is a Japanese word for spirit. And I remember...

I know that. Do you? I do not know that. Oh, yeah. It's a Japanese word for spirit. These two came up with that title, but I remember writing the guitar for that. I was in Japan at the time.

And I didn't have my guitar, of course. So, like, I did, like, a voice note of me, like, humming the breakdown. And it was really inspired, like, by you guys. Like, the ending is the beginning. That song, like, that song inspired, to Setshin and yeah so being here again

like how we've been talking about like super full circle like you're a big inspiration on like everything like we're doing it must be so wild for your guys as band to like to be it happens quick to you like you're listening to the music and then

now you're actually in these circles yeah it's crazy because the tour of Ornobo Cyrus and bail of my I used to go to their shows and we're kids. And it's not like when we're going on these tours. Like it's like they're over there and we're over here. No, bro.

Born of Osiris is literally like, they literally show so much love and so much appreciation and just like they like fuck with us so much. Mark. Shout out Mark. Shout out Mark. He's so much love. Bro, it's like, bro, we literally love those dudes. And it's like not even on a level of.

just like, oh, we played with them, but it's like, every step of that tour, it felt familial and hospitable and, like, they didn't make it feel weird because especially, like, meshing, being in the rap scene, being in the different scenes and shit, like, my mind definitely goes to expecting the worst from people. Like, just be expecting people to be weird, especially when you get on some, like, hierarchy or, like, they've been doing this shit since, like, fucking 07 type shit. So it's, like, nigga, like, I'm thinking, like, high window open for, you know,

them to be on that type of time and we being on our type of time. but man from fucking I would say like the second yeah like fucking like the first stop was like interesting like they show love we show love it was cool but like when I say that second stop

was like we partying let's get it there like come to the like that made it the whole tour like you guys could do whatever y'all want like we fuck with you. It wasn't weird it seemed forced it didn't seem like agenda base and it seemed like they didn't have no fucking reason or no

they didn't have nothing to the game from being you know cool with us and shit and they really just showed love and it wasn't like it seemed weird or nothing and as the tour it kept progressing you just saw that love and that type of like energy become more organic more natural more like yo like we know what it is like it's like real recognized real across like many forefront as we have these nights where we connect and we have these conversations and shit like it's like

it become real and it definitely like made it like oh sick like I want to I want to see like how everybody else's energy is meeting y'all at that chain and shit and like even like having the interactions that we're having right now and shit is definitely like um I don't know the feeling to call it but it's definitely like sick it's definitely sick to what it could be you know I mean because it could be weird it could be fucking it could be some other shit you know what I'm saying but to like be a human to try to keep it real to try to keep it on a pure basis and come across people who are also seeking the same outcome from just living in this world that's just fire as fucking I definitely got that feeling from them got that feeling from y'all

got that feeling from Murgaff like anytime we come across these types of energies and shit we definitely like take them shit seriously and we take them like we hold them close to us and shit because it's like it's rare it could it definitely go the other way more times or not. Something like, I think like the outside wouldn't understand. Like, it's been years and it's been so gradual. It's not like I'm listening to you as like a teen in my room and stuff. And the next thing I know I'm on the podcast, like, this has been like almost 10 years in the making.

And like that growing into like what we're doing right now, like it's still fucking amazing. But it's like it feels so natural and like good. Like we're more like prepared and ready for these types. Like, it makes sense now. Yeah, absolutely. It's what's even more special about that, you guys got here by being yourselves. Yeah.

You know? I won't name names, but there's a lot of bands that are successful. That we even tour with that, you just, there's something missing. That authenticity or whatever. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like,

I mean, it's, she'll be coming practice or common sense, but yeah, I mean, the music lasts, I mean, it's the best when you're just being authentic. It sounds silly, but it's so true, man. That's something that I was like, it's elementary almost. Yeah, it's like, it's elementary, but it's those things like when you see people win a Grammy

and they're like, just be yourself. And when you're watching it and you're not in it, you're like, okay, that was corny. But then like when you're in it and you really understand what they're saying, you're like, dude, he just gave you the real code. Like for real shit. You know, it's awesome yourself trying to do some other shit that you think that you're like thinking about doing like that. That's just art though. like art and self like a lot of people like what will people like what was this what was that but like

if you put yourself into art you won't under like you won't even like you can't imagine that there's billions of people in the world and so many people will relate to how you feel because like nobody's ever like alone so like whatever you're going through if you put that out and like you're vocal about it whether it's traumatic or it's super happy or whatever it is like there's millions of people who relate to it. So as long as you're authentic and put that out, through music, you're going to find, like, a core base of fans that are, like, that's me. Yeah. Yeah, we're all, I think we all kind of have, like, a collective

consciousness and shit. And, like, the way that we are connected as, like, a species and shit, there's been a bunch of, like, scientific experiments that kind of, like, prove, like, without being able to see it or talk about or even be around motherfuckers, like, we all kind of have a connective, like, mental processing in the ways that we view things and the ways that we experience things. Even just being from Rialto and shit like that. We ain't the only motherfuckers that's experiencing multiple genres and experiencing multiple ways of life at the same time. We are living in the same space. We're going to the same school, going to the same skate park, going to the same stores, going to the same clubs

or whatever the fuck you want to call it out there. It's like you get these experiences at the same time. So art, again, art being or my favorite art being a true reflection of real life, this is that, you know what I mean? Like it ain't no piece of it. This is all of it at the same time and shit. We might end up shitting out a whole different sound. You know what I mean? as life progresses and as time progresses and as our experiences progress and as the world around us adjust. You know what I mean?

Like our original fan base, like even the Rialto show, I remember looking around and I'm like, this is different fans than when we started. Yeah. Period. It's just not the same people. Like we don't even recognize the people, a lot of the people that will pull up originally,

there's the new versions of those people, you know? And that's been, again, that's why I was saying, like it's been like, at least minimum three of like a little heiress, little sagas, little dynasties. Different, different, um, groups, different sagas where you're like, bro, who is this dude? He's fired up. And it's like, that's the new, I remember when it was back in the day, it was this, you know? And Slate Squad has been through a lot of different phases.

We've had a lot of different people in this shit, too. There was a point where there was like five rappers in Slay Squad. Really? Yes. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. We've been through a phase where I was drummer.

I was the drummer. Wow. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, we're like still family. Like, still a homie's, like homies only type shit. Wow. Shout out 111. Yeah.

That's what the running 11 represents and shit. Like as like an entire collective, not just slay. It's like all the homies, all the other people who do things creatively, all the other people who are progressive and just exists simultaneously amongst all of us. Because we all, that's our real foundations. aside from creation and what we're trying to do on our career-based type level, like us being homies and us being family and us existing like shoulder to shoulder with one another and being there for each other and shit, that's the real foundations of the shit.

That's what Slate Squad even was before making music. It was just squad. It was like a family. We were in the homie Garrett's garage. And we'd just be in there. We were called Slate Squad even before any music. I'm pretty sure I could speak for anybody in this room. but like if it was to the point where it's like,

oh, we need a guitarist or oh, we need a drummer for the show and it's like not some like 111 family. Like, I'm not doing it. I don't care. It's more damaging than beneficial to be that. It's like I just want to do shit with my family. And if it's not that, then it's like, I'll go find something else to do. Wow.

Exactly. Like that goes back to him being on base. Like if it was like, we need to find a good basis. It's like some random dude from some random city. who could play like a 20 string base like I don't care I don't care like taking time to figure you out my nigga this is my brother I already know this nigga I've slept on this nigga's couch this is my family

I ain't got a question this nigga's authenticity or his work ethic or fucking how he's about to view this shit he understanding has seen from jump what the fuck this shit is to us and how much energy has been put into it so you know not to play with it so shit digger like it's like it's a reciprocation of like oh this is not gonna be a questionable thing

and like it's proved itself to be fruitful like throughout fucking the whole every step of the way even shit within the last 24 hours you know what I just keep developing like it doesn't happen without that initiative you don't give a fuck about your bass tone or how this shit is protruding throughout the rest of the mix without taking that type of initiative we explained earlier you know I mean without taking that work ethic in that mindset towards what you're doing how are you being represented is anybody feeling you when this track gets played if it's not happening I can't imagine him

being cool with that Yeah. You hear me? Yeah. Losing sleep over that shit. I know I'm not crazy. It was a big relief when we did that. Yeah, that was tough.

Wow. You guys are very in tune as a band. And you're definitely more, you're not desperate, which is also very rare. You guys don't have to talk about this. You don't. We'll talk about it. But, you know, obviously, I'm in the outside looking in, having a great time. I'm talking to, you know, Mike Gitter.

And I'm, I was in Vegas recently and Morgoth when I was hanging with Morgoth. And went to play, play that show in Vegas. We were in an alleyway just talking about you guys about 30 minutes. I was like, I was like, shit. You're like, I gotta go, man. But it was just really cool to hear what you guys got going on. And there's a lot of interest, I guess, I could say. and to, which is, we are very similar

in that way where our band, we did the same thing. Like there's interest here and there and there, but there's something about winning yourself, you're not desperate. There's something about it. We don't give a fuck about none of that shit. Like on some real shit, like we're all in-house. Like, on some real shit.

Like, we print our own merch, we edit our own videos, direct our own videos, make our own video. No one comes out of us with concepts and this and that like bro we do whatever the we do exactly what we want to do and on some real shit

like we're getting money we're fine like so we're not even at the point of like we're not like the like we're struggling like we just need this deal like make it out this mud no we're already out the mud we did that shit on our own yeah we grown ass man we had to do that to survive to be able to keep making this shit

to this day without establishing what he just explained I can't imagine how the fuck we'd be able to be able to do something like this extracurricular or like, you know what I mean? On some like at the same time and survive and have to keep a roof over our head. Food in our stomachs, food on our level on stomachs.

This is the bonus right now. This is like the real bonus. It's cherry on top. Like we are purely in house. So when you come at us, like any people that are listening that are like interested in coming out of us with some shit, come out us with some shit that's going to really fucking change our lives. Other than that, we give no fucks.

We know how to get, we can make bands. For real. Real shit. We know how to make bands. We're true tall babies. We know how to make bands. So the little shit is kind of like, I mean, we're nice. So we're going to, yeah, cool.

But if we're talking about real shit, you want us to really, like, put the pen to the contract. Come correct. Real shit. Because we really, we, like, dude, we really believe in ourselves. Like, I believe in us. Like I think we can do, I, I'm crazy. I'm a little crazier than most. I think we could do this shit with nobody.

Real shit. That's really how I feel. We will do this shit. Look at what I'm saying? I'm like, look at what most people lean on a label four or like depending on label four. You can't come with us with the little video shit.

Nope. And you're not overcharging. You're not coming up with the production shit or like create on the creative end. It's not. We don't need no help on that end. We just organized all those shows this past weekend. We got a whole squad. We got an army.

We got a motherfucking army of motherfucking family. Not an army of soldiers or constituents or whatever the fuck you want to call it. This is family. Motherfuckus who I've been top to bottom with. You know what I'm saying? Like it's like really actual shit where it's like, nigga, I could depend on my people. I could depend on my actual foundations.

And we ain't never straight away from that. So like that has to be understood 100%. We got the manpower to do all the funny business. Right. Come with us. Come with us with something that's going to change what we have to change. We can't. Like, we can't do that.

One of them to come to me with an alpha I can't refuse. Yeah, and there's a lot of shit that there's, there's very few shit we're going to say we can't do. You know what I mean? It's like we. That list is small. It's small. Like, we really, and we could be fucking wrong. I'm just telling you how our mindset.

How we feel. And like, everybody in this room, everybody in 11, at this point in our lives, we've known each other longer than we haven't. Like, yeah. Like, I've known this dude for, like, more than half of my. life. So like there's no way in hell no matter what I got going on or what he got going on we would let each other like sink. Yeah. Like we're we're all good like we've done we've worked jobs like we have like we have mentors we have people that are actually in this making end so when you come out of us with some shit you're not talking to like it's not even just us like

as confident as we are with just us when you come out of some fucking weird out shit we call motherfuckers that we got references. Yeah. We got people that we could call that they're going to be like, that's funny business. No, because it's like that. It's really like that. Like, in a black community, when you got people doing what we're doing and you got people trying to infiltrate what we infiltrating, bro, it has to be like that.

I can't imagine how any type of young black man is going to be able to function without insight from the elders who have been able to squeeze that way through that. Like, we live in 2022. I get it. But we're still within the same century of some of the bullshit that we're trying to get away from so it's like it's still remnants it's still actualization of like bullshit that we got to maneuver our way through we're not like the desperate sound cloud artists like i hear a lot because i uh i work with a lot of different artists it's like we're not like the artist that's like

we just need to deal and we're out of here like we're out of here actually like that's been a part of time like a deal could hurt us i even say this like i say this all the time like going back to like we don't care like how good you are at something we care how much you care how much effort you put into something as much as we care like i don't give a fuck who you are bro you could be i'm gonna be care i won't say any names but bro you can be the biggest artist right now you ain't one 11 i don't give a fuck you not on our shit bro you can be conier west we ain't putting you on 111 don't matter i don't care we don't care about that how much you care about this shit is like always the, like, first and foremost.

The way our lives are right now is, like, already has surpassed our childhood dreams. Yeah. So it's like everything else that's coming along with the music we're making, like he said earlier is like the cherry on top. We're still going for it, but it's like, we're good. And I think that's also adds on to what makes us special. But shit, someone offers something good, then let's rock. Right.

It got to really make sense, not the pertainbers. Some of us still work normal jobs. Like, you know what I mean? We're not living crazy. But also our dreams and aspirations and like aren't necessarily, though we look up to a lot of people in this genre, we don't look at their life and go, we want that. Like we actually look up to like we want to be a hard. We want to be this rap slash hardcore, but like the emphasis is like look how we're saying rap. Like you get bigger deals.

You get, you, you just get a little bit more. I feel like that's what that, like, I love the hardcore energy, but I feel like what's lacking is how they take care of the hardcore artists. And this is a huge fucking thing. Because how they take care of hardcore artists sometimes, like you'll pull up on the legends and you're like, oh, like, you're living normal. Like, this is a normal.

Okay. Yeah. You're living a normal life. Yeah. And that is fucking fire, but we do have, like, bigger aspirations. Thank God for the legends. So we're able to look and learn and go, okay, I want to do that, but not fully. Like, we want to pull up to the fucking glasshouse hardcore show,

but we just pulled up in Lambo's in big ass chains and all that. Only rappers could do that. We want to wall the fuck out. We're going up. Like, we're trying to wow the fuck out. This is not just like, we're cool. We were able to get a crib and, you know, do our thing. Like, I'm talking about, like, we're really trying to go up.

Because the other stuff, we feel like we're capable to do that on our own. And not even to have it, like, so, like, money-based or anything like that. but like it's not we it's also the impact we could have on so many people like we're not just here like oh we just want a bunch of money like we know our value because we're impacting we could impact so many kids like us like how i was talking about earlier like with art and just being authentic yeah like it's not just we're making music and we want millions of dollars like we want to change the world yeah we want to we want to be able to be like okay they let slay squad be the head designer of this clothing brand for

a month. We want Virgil. We don't want just normal shit. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, we don't want to just like, we're just going on tour and we're just doing our thing. We want, like, okay, um, Louis Vuitton said that we get to design the next line. That's what we want. You know what we're dropping Sprites heavy, first heavy commercial. You feel me. We want, we want Super Bowl performance. You feel me like, this is, these are the bridges. We're trying to We want Grammys. Because all these things exist at the same time in the human psyche. Everybody's listening to everything.

Everybody has a feeling and an understanding of all these different genres. We're trying to make sure that that bridge is not only gap. Not only that that gap is bridge between the genres, but the cultures. I don't want this sport to be seen as a white boy sport to keep it a buck. It's too many black and brown people that I see within this community. That get that support. You feel me that actually make this scene what it is, that actually make this music what it is,

that make the sound, that make the feeling, that make the mosh culture, that make the way you look and dress and all these things. I see all these impacts on the culture, but it's seen as a white boy sport. In no disrespect, you feel me? I'm just talking about how life is existing. Yeah, we want to pull up, we want to pull up, dummy clean. Like, we're not going to, like, we're going to pull up clean. Like, we're going to do this shit.

We're going to pull up clean. Like, we're going to, we'll be performing hardcore, but we're wearing fucking Rick Owens. Like, real shit. Like we're gonna go up. Like, this isn't just like, we're taking it, we're taking what we've seen and admired and then pushing it forward,

which we all should be fucking doing. Absolutely. Like, don't look at the legends and go, I just want to do that. Like, okay, do what they're doing and even more. And even more, which we want our kids to do that.

We want the younger generation to do that. So if, if we have anything to do with this, that's what the fuck we're doing like real shit like we're gonna like we're trying to push this shit to the max not like we're trying to go like damn

okay like you could be doing hardcore but you could be icy literally like we first hardcore band and when to grab me like what? You could be living well I'm tired of seeing some of the race that bands are accepting for live performances I'm seeing people work harder

not smarter so I'm trying to see the game a mesh, it kind of be more of a mix A blend. Make this, why not make hardcore just as prominent as hip hop?

Like hip hop you see fucking bro, the legends are better than the bottom tier of the hip hop but the bottom tier of the hip hop is getting bands. Millions. Yeah, and they're less talented.

And they're less talented. Less work. That's what you got to do when you pull up to a show. Yeah. You still unloading all the own shit. For some, They're for some reason more appreciated.

They're for some reason more appreciated, but yet they're not playing instruments. They're not learning. They don't even know music. It's because of popularity. When you look at that culture, you understand, like, oh, that's the type of money they get in. It's not a question.

It's not of nothing like that. So it's like, I want to bridge that. Bridge the existence of both things and shit by just us being in both. You know what I'm not being subjected to either. We're here to literally help and fucking. to go fucking boost this shit to where it's like, damn, this shit is like some shit. And that comes with what it comes with.

There's going to be a lot motherfuckers. We're looking at like, oh, they're in this shit now. But that's better than fucking this like quiet cave of like this is just the little culture. You know what I mean? It's like, nah, let's make this shit fucking big. Let's take this shit to the fucking next level. Like real shit. Yeah, I'm low key.

I felt like we've been talking a lot. What are some of the questions that you have from? No, no, no, dude. That's a tequila, talking. No, no, no, it's just coming up. I know you got some questions. No, no, it's all coming up naturally. And you guys are doing what I wish more bands would do.

They just hold so much fucking power with labels. And they think they're going to sign something that's going to change their lives. It's like, you guys are already done. How many a full U.S. tours have you guys already done? We've done, we technically done one. But we've also, again, on our own, we go to Japan. We go to Japan every year and do shows. That's insane.

Sometimes twice a year, we stay for a month. Yeah, we stay for a month, record music. We shoot videos. We do everything out there, and no label is giving us the bread. That's just us. We just get our, we got to take care of our shit, make sure everything at home is taking care of our way away. And then we go over there for a lot.

We be in the system. I don't know tour of shit. Not trying to be on no weird shit, like actually getting with the system, letting it be knowing what we do and bettering ourselves like that over there. Like kind of, as we have begun now in these recent times, like getting on our first big tours and shit like that, I'm realizing it's the same game. Literally.

It's just the same thing. It's like being yourself, again, which is a foundation of the root of it all, but also like keeping that in front mind as you're also integrating with others and understanding other people and the way that their functioning is around this, not only this country, this world, different genres, different walks of life and shit. like it's I really I really fuck with the things that Japan has taught us on like how to move as people it's like if we can if we could and it also has taught me some of the natural character that has been developed by coming from Rialto dead ass I don't know many people that have been able to actually fluctuate and exist how we how my close peers have been able to exist and should I've watched it in real time maybe because I haven't been able to watch everybody else shit in real time but real life I've I have like the foundationary experience with motherfuckers

know that something about existing in Rialto coming from Rialto being a part of that true organic blend of it all is really special and it really creates a powerful like a pocket of tools to be able to maneuver in all these other places. It's like shit and I ain't scared, I ain't nervous, I don't feel weird about it at all. I'm a real person. I'm really on this earth and I know everybody else on this earth is on here too. So when we go to so far on the other side like Japan is like it made me want to go to like everywhere else. Because I never even been on a plane before my first time going to Japan. I never even been on the airplane.

That was my first flight. Wow. And that type of shit was like going over there experiencing all that type of shit. It was like, man, like, we good. You know what I mean? You get that type of understanding as you go through, like, different experiences in life. But once it happened over there and once we began to develop relationships and friendships and familiarity with the people and just the loved ones that we do have up over there and shit like that,

it made me realize, like, yeah, nigger, like, we pretty much good. And it's pretty much the smartest way to approach all. things which just being yourself kind of like we said and it really opens your eyes I know people from realto who like they haven't even been to LA just don't leave the block they just like not familiar like that dude and that's not even just realto that's like a lot of people and like I just don't want to be one of those people and like going to a place like Japan like realizing like everybody the thing about Japan like not even just Japan like anywhere in the world going to a

different country that's not the US is like when you're in a place like Japan everybody's Japanese so even though they're all different from each other. They're still the same culture. They still have like the same like something. Something about them is like the same. And like that familiarity and like just seeing that from different lenses of the world like really expands your mind and helps you like grow as a person. It sounds like going to Japan really like change your guys' lives and gave it like a fucking like perspective.

Oh yeah. And a weird way like guys went out there on your own dime and did it in your own. did it in your own, you did it your own way, and then you came back like, oh shit, we don't got to sign to a fucking label. We don't got to go by nobody's rules. We don't got to go by no scenes rules. We don't got to go by nobody's politics

and anything like that. Like, can't nobody tell us how to be moving and shit because we did exactly what we wanted to do just fine. You come back and then you come back, well, one of the main things, you come back and you go, look around. You look around and you go, okay, well, clubs are trash out here, already offering.

Hospitality is trash. To Japan, they're playing our music in One Oak. One Oak in the U.S., bro, I don't even know the process to be able to do, to even get your music played in One Oak. That's in Vegas. We already know they're not playing nothing that sounds like what we do creatively. They're very open to, like, accepting people who are different than that. Yeah, they're not tripping on you over there on the scene. stand on the table.

We do whatever the fuck we want. You know what I mean? Like, they really show a lot of love. And doing that move, the first time, like, it's not like we went out there and then we were like, let's just go for a week. The first time we said, let's just go out there for a month. Did we have, dude, at the time, the first time he went, did we have enough money? Fuck no.

We went out there fucking broken shit. I went there twice in one year hustling. I had no job. Like literally at this point in my life, I've been there like 11 times. and each time like a month each. That's the thing too. Him and a homie Leo, shout out knowledge following. Like them going over there and like kind of setting a flow,

setting a foundation is what kept us from going over there and being on some like tour or being on some like just typical type shit. We was able to tap it to the underground and tap it to the actual culture of the youth in Japan because of them going over there and setting the tone and letting us know how to fucking move and how not to waste our time. After like the high school music band, stuff like tip everybody in high school joins a band and stuff like I became a designer my brand

la Tokyo LA Tokyo was like a way to get me from LA to Tokyo and then I did that and then I told them like let's just all go like we need to experience it and we kept doing it and we really like understood that there's more to the world than just like what we're used to because oh everybody just feel so entitled to like I definitely suggest everybody travels like if you're an artist you have to travel because you feel it a little bit when you get out of Cali or whatever state you're in you go like okay there's other shit going on like you are you are it humbles you a lot like especially when you go out of the U.S. I think that's when you really get humbled because you're like it's crazy you're like

yeah you ain't shit which is good to hear sometimes it is it's really good to fucking hear bro, you ain't shit. There's a lot of shit going on. This shit is clockwork. This shit is moving. It's like imagine going to a food court and like you just go to the same burger spot every time. Like so many other different foods, like taste that shit. Like try some other shit.

And that shit was amazing. And that's even what builds the confidence that we have now. Like Japan is a huge, huge reason why we feel the way that we feel. For a shout to Fuji and seeing better days. Get tired of. Jimmy Shout out to our Japan You know what I'm saying

It's like It's real love It's like the same How we were talking about Boo and all them earlier Like When we feel that familial energy From people

We like hold that shit Like near and dear It's not a game to us And shit You've toured out there before right Yes How was that for you Incredible place

Yeah I think we only have been there Once So you guys actually Been there more than us It's quick dude That's that's life You know It's cool. It's cool to see that, but it's a special place, man.

We should go out there together sometimes. Do it, man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm being crazy. You all out there. Like, the homies that we're shouting out, like, bro, they're literally, like, obsessed. Like, you go to the vintage shops, you see the Winds of Plague shirts, the suicide silent shirt.

For, like, all right. Like, $150, 300. Yeah. What? More than what you guys are selling them for? Like, real shit. God, damn. I'm here to eat a ramen and shit.

What the fuck? Yeah. For real, that's a real shit. I told you guys at Cherry Action. I told me guys outside, whenever I see you guys, or I'm even talking to more guys. Like, I want to tour with you guys. For sure.

And that's a, that kind of ties in to, like, you know, I see these bands so, like, an artist so, like, overly attached to, like, this label thing. We're like, oh, it's going to change me. It's so fucking nuts, dude. I'm telling you.

It's like, yo, drop your fucking video and song now. Yeah. Why wait in four months? What the fuck you're doing? A lot of people, a lot of people think that the label shit, like, some of us in this are like, we're very business savvy. Like, I love business. Like, I do not run away from business. Same.

I love business. So when you really understand it, you're like, bro, you almost better off just going to the bank and getting a loan at that point. Like, if you know what you're doing. If you know what you're doing. doing, why are you putting it in somebody else's hands? Now, if somebody is saying we can put you here, we could do that, this, that, or the other, that's a whole different story. But a lot of people, you could, I don't want to be able to, if I could fully see what the fuck the path is, I don't even want that shit. I, I want you not even to be able to see this shit, the person

that's investing into us. I want you to be like, this is almost unimaginable. Like I don't even fucking know where like I know where of course I have a path but like This is the sky's the limit and a lot of labels come at you It's not sky's the limit. It's input you in the same plan that we input We did it's a hundred times this so we're just gonna do what we do to everybody and it's like we're not We're a special case We're confidently say that we are not everybody like we are a special case for sure We're one of a kind yeah we're not everybody so you can't implement

implement same way you can't add a vocal chain the same way with music you can't just add the same vocal chain to everybody and it just sounds good it's like bro like put put dig in dig into us some care into this shit yeah as much as we care yeah yeah you guys are you're on the same road you know again we're similar in the fact that you know SS was a one-on-one so you when you're one-on-one you just know it and and uh and you guys are a one-on-one you know it's it's a it's a It's a special time and you guys

not to be desperate and just be dropping songs on your own I wish I could saw someone band's do that shit Yeah So let's drop the song And then you'll hear like

Oh well I'm We're shooting out the labels right now I'm like Why? What? I mean I get it But drop the song first And then when a deal comes

Deal comes And you like it Cool and then like Just drop the fucking song dude Yeah Just do your shit Because like Even like

It's been on my mind a lot Like That artist Russ everybody clowns him everybody be clowning him but he says the shit that we're talking about and it's all fun in games it's funny to clown and shit like that

but like you have somebody in the game recording himself doing all his own stuff mixing himself you get to call the shots I'm interested in being in a position where we call the shots right now we call the shots

that's how I would like to remain you know that's how you end up with a catalog of stuff when you're looking and you go something about it is a little bit off the vision seems like it's changed like kind of like what you said earlier like something's missing how your initial sound was

and how you was when we first gravitated towards you as an artist like something changed something adjusted something got weird with your creative processing or whatever the fuck going on you know what I mean like we trying to avoid that by all means. Great. People know.

Like, fans are smart, dude. They're, like, it's like, they, like, they fucking smell it. Yeah. It's like, they know when it's not real. Yeah. Especially when you're talking, like, any form of heavy. Mm-hmm. You know, and I can tell when people try to start leaning towards more the commercial

route or trying to make a hit or trying to make whatever the fuck you're going to call it. Like, we're trying to make sure that we keep that gap bridge by staying authentic and keeping it as heavy as we wanted to be. Fuck what somebody trying to tell us to be. Yeah, totally. And it's a special time now because heavy music is like it's, I definitely couldn't up predict of the shit. Like it's like, oh, wow, like there's a lot of people listening to heavy shit right now.

Now, I listen to what, I listen to what fucking Ricky and a honey from Left to Suffer was saying, like, bro, like, it is a resurgence of this shit. Like, I will be able to, I can honestly say throughout the, I can't say the specific years, but let's say maybe for a rough estimate, maybe like 2013, 14 through like maybe even 1920 where it was kind of like in a weird limbo of like fucking like just weird existence you know what I mean as far as like it's like popularity yeah and people understanding it but right now it kind of has like a double impact of the old school feeling of like oh as well I don't know it's mostly in the

cell cow and like the people on social media who I'm around right now like yeah we're yeah like it's like I'm thinking like oh like them is them shows that everybody was going to back in the days or like that that's that that's that shit that my big brother or my my big home here or fucking, you know what I mean? Like they, it's been existing back in those days and it's becoming that rebubbling. And so there's getting more venues, getting more places to play shows and shit out here in Sokow. And it's also mixed with the online social media, the internet, Lorna Shore, Left to Suffer, Angel Maker, fucking of Sofer, like us.

You know what I mean? Dude, I love what I love what like turn style did. Yeah, like that type of shit, right? Turn style is specific. Everybody has to talk about. That's what the fuck. It's special. Motherfuckers is talking about, bro.

Like, look at what they're doing. Like, they're literally taking it to, like, a whole other level. And even, like, knock loose. You know what I mean? What they was able to do with the marketing of their last big album with them is it being in Target and, like, shit like that.

That's the shit I'm talking about. Like, I want this sound. I want to chug. I want a breakdown to be digestible to the common person, especially within a black community. I can't wait for the day a breakdown is translated to be able to be recognizable to, like, not just the alternative.

or the fringe. Another big contribution to that I would say is like somebody like XXXX and the Sion. Perfect. Like him with the internet, what it is today, and somebody like him who like kind of grew up like us, but he's even younger and able to share what he was listening to and like what he's knowledgeable of through the internet and having like other people again relate to art by just being yourself and him listening to heavy stuff, him listening to having knowledge of rock, but also rap and putting that out

as just like super authentic where he could drop like a super heavy album or super like soft and the reins like we're we're really tied with people that worked on his deal specifically and like every time we have those convos like the ball was in his court

like if a lot of people don't know about X he got a deal and they offered him a deal they put out all this contract all this paperwork and he had so much confidence in what he was able to do and so much leverage he said if we're doing a contract i'm writing it a lot of people don't know this about x he wrote his own contract his way literally his handwriting and had them motherfucker sign you're signing my contract which is like bro that's what we're talking that's leverage and real understanding of the product we're not no game we're not no gimmick we're not some fluke we not some like

one-off type business like this is something serious and and and we are cognizant of what we deserve and what we are that type of shit like imagine you get to write your you get to they give you the paperwork and you're like you guys did too much this is what it is and that label goes okay they just do that's the leverage we're talking about we're not trying to play the game we're not trying to play the game on the rules based on somebody else we are literally trying to make sure that this shit is given what is deserves. And with situations like what we're being offered, it's like, you ain't even seen what we can do for real to keep it up.

Yeah, for me. Between, I'm talking from Mongo to Bean. Yeah, for real. You ain't seen us nothing. Beam was just us in the laboratory mixing potion and it was like, wow, it was purple and it did this cloud. Everybody's going, wow. But, bro, at the end of the day, that was the first time we mixed it that way.

We still got to mix it that way and grab the orange. beaker with that fluid and mixed that. We didn't even did that shit. Like this is still the beginning. We're very, we're not affected by time. We're not really like affected by like the glamour of fucking a name and all that little cute shit. Like

we really get it out the mud. So we're gonna continue to do that until somebody give us a reason not to. Yeah. Totally. So if you're hearing you're from a label, you better come with some right shit, dude. Come correct. We ain't playing with y'all. Yeah. Don't play with us. Yeah. Well, I know we we definitely covered a lot and

I fucking love you guys. I love what you guys are doing. I hope in our future. And our near future, we could do a tour together. Yeah. But honestly, you guys only need us.

You guys are gonna fucking do some fucking cool shit. And anything else that we haven't touched yet? I mean, yeah, like shit. I mean, I feel like we like took all your questions and like expanded on them like so fucking...

It's awesome crazy. Do you have anything? You guys covered everything. What else do you have? Yeah. Like, talk, you know? No, no. You guys fucking really.

It's, you know what, actually this actually hit me right now. So it's, I'm older. I'm on 36 and I will immediately say that, you know, I'm jaded. Some members of my band on jaded. It just happens when you've been doing it for like so long, you know. And to hear a band come from the, in an empire and just hit me over the face, it's just like I'm just still in awe by it. And I'm still in shock.

Wait, wait, they're from the Illinois Empire? What? I know you guys are more based out of a downtown L.A. Well, no, we're actually more based in the inland. We've been living in L.A. for a year. Like, we just did that because we realize it's the, it's the, it's the competition, right? It's like, it's like, like, you have to, you could ball in the G League and you're bawling everybody up. Like, you know, we would be in the I.E.

Shout out to like bow, you know, shout out to them boys. But really other than them, it was like, shit, it's not no challenge. It ain't no weird. It ain't nothing for us to feel like we're excelling or progressing by being involved. It's easy to be there. Like when we're in the eye, we're just like, yeah, where the shit? Where the shit?

Where the shit? Where the shit? Where the shit? You just keep over and over. But then you're like, then you get to the big market. I remember the first time I pulled it to my apartment in L.A. after we got it. And I just remember being like, it was so humbling like you're starting from ground zero again.

If anything, it made me wish I did it earlier. Yeah. Because I was like, it's again, like, I don't know. Like imagine you're at a job and it's in the cut. No one really knows about it. And you know, you're the shit in that building. But like realistically, when you get into other things, it's like, you're, you're, you're, you're the shit in that building. You actually have a lot to learn, and it makes you, like, makes you level up.

And that's what I appreciate the most about L.A., like, coming over here. And then I remember just thinking, again, like, we talked about outside, but I remember just thinking, like, man, we go so in, da, da, da, da, da. Then you meet some of these people, and you're like, we're always recording all day. Like, we're not really, like, drug on, like, we don't, we're not on drugs. Like, we already did that shit, right? So you have these people in L.A.

They're, you know, they're on Coke all day. And that's a whole separate idea, a separate convoy. But they're working. And they're recording nonstop. So when you're living where you're living and you're taking your little trip to L.A. to like, oh, I'm going to go out here and put in some work and come home to the I.E. And then chill. They're there 24-7.

When you're sleeping, they're not. Yeah, we know people up to 8 in the morning, nine in the morning. Like, even going back to, like, something like Japan, like, you go to Japan and be like, oh, I'm from Rialto. They're like, what? But if you, if we can prove ourselves in a place like L.A. And I'm like, oh, like, we're doing this in L.A.,

it says a lot more. It's not ideal for, like, our ideology. Yeah, we love to just, like, be in the toe and just like, we just told. But it is what it is. It's true. It's like, again, like, just like, G-League NBA. Facts.

It's literally the best of this. It's literally what it is. It's like you could be in the G-League and you're like, I just score 30, da-da-da-da, but when's the last time you watch a G-League game? Go to the NBA and see if you still score that same 30. You know what I mean? And can you score that? Exactly, bro.

That's a major point. It's like, can you score that in the bigger leagues? And that's something like me personally, I always have that mindset of just like more, more, like I want to go more in I want to go more in so it is good to be able to like bro we've only been out here for a year so it's like we still have a lot more to do but it's like it's good to be able to like okay we could we could compete here yeah the treadway we've been able to make within this the short amount of time is definitely like you know what I mean especially especially from where we come from like yeah it definitely says a lot and you know what I mean it's just

like it's a mindset of having like a progression like kind of like how you explain like you you don't want to get too dormant. Like you're not going to really like making it. It's like preaching to the choir and you know what I mean? Like how are you going to make any change doing the same shit to the same people who are familiar with what you got going on? How was it for you in like suicide silence coming from the IE and like. Yeah, because I was surprised like how you're seeing when you said you're from Corona.

I was like, wait. You guys like one of the biggest bands in the world. Like how was it for you guys coming from the IE and like accomplishing that? you're definitely proud that you know it's weird that when you're like a young kid

like and you your character and your being authentic gets tested from either friends or family or like hey you should try this you should do this or you know

or like you know I mean it sounds cool but you probably shouldn't combine like blast beats and breakdown just it's not going to work but these people are your family and your friends they think there's

telling you what's going to work. Yeah. But we, similar to you guys actually. I, we believed in this shit since they once. Since 2002, believe in it.

And it's, we're the same band now than, I'm doing the same shit now that I did when I was a little kid. In 2002, a little kid just, I believe in what, in what we're doing.

And again, some of you guys, you played these shows in Rialto and Corona and Redlands. And then you go, You branch out to Anaheim in Orange County, then you're LA, then you're playing the whiskey.

And then you repeatedly, you repeatedly, every fucking time you stick out. You stick out. There's bands that might be better than you, but, you ain't out that cool. Honestly, bro, there's a lot of bands.

If we're going by technicality, what you know how to do. The bass players don't even play a bass player. It's not hard to be better than us. Honestly. Yeah. Like, we're at this shit every day. Like, there's some people that, like,

We're talking about mixing the potion. They got their potion. But the differences is like we kept making potions. Like after that explosion, after we mixed that, we said, okay, let's make another explosion. Let's do this. Let's do that. You have your own. Yeah.

Like a lot of people are better than us at a lot of shit, honestly. Totally. Like instrumentation and like, like, bro, that's just a lot of shit, bro. Honestly, people are a lot better. Like when we went on that tour, we were. with Borno Rosarius? Yeah, we learned a lot. I was like, I was like,

not only are they better, they got better gear, they got back and bought more shit. Yeah, the way this shit is functioning, the order of operations. A lot of people are technically, bro,

they're better than us, like on some real shit. But we pay attention to all those types of things. So it's like, it's only a amount of time that we're going to be able to keep saying that.

We don't take that shit lightly. Like, we come home and adjust immediately. Because we don't like that. The shoes we got back from tour immediately adjusted. Y'all shit ain't cool to us. Yeah,

but there is more to it than just talent too. Like I saw something this morning. It was like a meme, but like a video like this like chubby, like Hispanic dude singing. He sounded just like Michael Jackson. Oh wow. And he sounded just like Michael Jackson. I love Michael Jackson too.

That nico's on point. And it was just like that's dope as fuck, but you're still not like you don't have all that other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some of Michael Jackson's like sketchbooks for his outfits and things like that. Oh, damn. That nigga really like shit. I can't say if it was a product of his own work ethic or what Joe

Jackson did to the motherfuckers, but I'm going to say the ethic and what the fuck went into the mental processing behind what he was doing was not a game. It's attention to detail. Every detail isn't just like left to somebody else or overlooked. Like he's literally looking through everything.

Every step of it. Yeah. And again there's just so much more to it. Like there's, you could walk down like where's the beach, Venice and like see people who paint amazing. But like at the end of the day they're still painting on the beach selling their paintings for like $20. like there's more to it probably straight at painting bro and their shit's in the museum

because there's 300,000 paintings. Same thing you see niggas flipping on Venice and shit, you know what I'm saying? They doing their flips and shit for coins in the bucket where it's niggas in Circu de Soleil doing their shit. Shout out to that one dude disoing always skateboarding and fucking on the guitar. He's so sick of guitar. You know what I mean? And I can't knock that either because it's like chasing a bag and having a certain type of

like perspective success is also a weird game to play as well. It's like shit. It's really up to you as a. human and shit. You know what I'm saying? You could be smoking crack in the tent and be content because you ain't got to pay bills and you can be happily doing your shit as you want to as a human. Ain't nobody else's perspective. Don't smoke cracks.

I ain't tell you to smoke crack, but shit. If the universe tell you two shit, nigger like, shit, nigga, follow your gut, trust yourself. You feel me? I'm going to say it again. Don't smoke. I feel you though, bro. Not for real. Different people who tell you to chase the bag. Chase a hit. Chase your core

audience. Chase your, chase what you want to do as an artist creatively chase how you want to all that type of shit or you could play ball you know what I'm saying it's like it's different types of ways that you want to like approach a game of life and shit and whether it be creatively whether it be to get your money and take care of your loved ones where to be to take care of yourself and your peace of mind and shit it's like I'm trying to like make sure that that that bridge of that understanding is fucking completely bridge you know I mean like can't nobody tell you how to live your life and shit if you want to do some shit that feel right to you do your motherfucking shit black brown white yellow whatever the fuck you

You feel me? We just be out here trying to figure it out. Don't nobody got it figured out. And as I've got to vote it. Everybody who act like they got it figured out got lucky. Oh, yeah. So shit. Brose.

You got lucky. Or they look like they haven't figured out, but they really don't. You look at them and you're like, shit, I got X, Y, and Z better in line than your ass do. So let me capitalize on that. Let me keep trying. You know, I'm just, you know what I'm saying? Do your shit. Pick your, pick your shit, how you want your operation or go on.

But just try to like keep your self. in line. You feel me? Like don't try to make think that somebody else's way of life is going to work for you because you could do that shit for 10, 20, 30 years. A lot of our parents, a lot of our elders been working in the workforce for fucking all these decades and shit and they're like, I can retire now. I hate doing that shit the whole motherfucking time,

but I was telling you to get a job. You know what? It's like, it's like, very interesting way that the game is played out and shit. And that's kind of the young guy mentality. Like, you are in control of your experience. You control your standards. You control what feel good for you. Stay aware of that, whether that be getting money, whether that be being,

however the fuck you want to be, just be cognizant of that and don't let nobody else be the god of that. Because I promise you, whether it be five years, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, 50 years, you're going to be regretful of letting somebody else be the god of your game. 100%. Dude, we're going to write our own fucking record contract, dude. That's sick. Well, dude, for real dudes, I am so honored that all you guys came here. I mean, I've been a fan of your band for quite a bit.

Now, it's been really cool. Likewise. Crazy. It's a major honor for us. Like we kept saying, it's real full of circle shit. You know what I mean? Like, this is serious. Like, the young version of me is like doing backflips and it's moshing and you know

what I'm saying? Oh, niggas like in my mental right now. Like, what the fuck? Nigel, like, this ain't no game. Y'all see what the fuck is going on. Y'all see where we came from. A lot of motherfuckers have watched us every step of this way, figuring it out. So it's like, this is real life.

This is really what happened when you really stick to the plan and do what you're supposed to, not what somebody told you you you're supposed to do. You feel me? Yep. Facts. Well, what's coming up next? Shows, singles. We have a couple shows with NASCAR, Allo, and DeathProof.

Shout out Death Proof. We have a show with Sim coming up. Yes, I am. Then they made the intro to that last attack on Titan season. I don't know about all my anime heads out there, but it's completely already so down. So I'll tell you, which I came by. That's just so cool. Real exposure.

It's only just us and them. Wow. Us and Sim. It's their first time in El. LA for sure they just got they just got big over the past like six months because of that last season is an attack on Titan they want some awards because of that shit yeah August August 12th Pomona September 15th August 9th is the same show at the Echoplex August 12th will be the glasshouse in

Pomona with NASCAR Alo and all the death proof homies September 15th September 15th will be Los Angeles at the Echoplex with NASCAR and again all that deaf proof movies that's on the fucking it's not it's not American listen was it you United We Fall. It's the United We Fall Tour with NASCAR and all the hummies. And again, shout out to them because it's like they played a huge instrument on our integration to LA. And keeping the scene prominent while COVID was telling us not to go outside.

You feel me? Like 4815, deathproof, all the hummies, that is really like a part of the true underground out there. It really, that shit was what kept the scene alive while people was telling you needed to stay inside. We got to do shows. The shit was close. Ango figure, like there are a lot of. The Miyagi, shout out Miyagi, like, he's I-E-Base. So making the connection, I remember when I first met him, it was just like, oh, you're

an I-e-nigger? It was like, bro, it's a rap. Facts. That's all right-ish. We're talking about. Me, that nigga played dice our first time. You know what I'm saying? That type of, like, real integration of, like, real recognizing real and us understanding

that the world ain't going to be shit without this real representation. You feel me? A lot of people are going to just play the game. We ain't here to really play the game. we're here to change the gang 100% 111% 111% definitely have more singles dropping very soon and we'll have a show with Show Me the Body is what we're on this festival

that's gonna be with Show Me the Body Nothing Fest It's gonna be it's up with the plethora of bands But like yeah show me the body is on that too Hopefully like next year we get to go on tour with you or something Yeah This year shit Let's go on tour ASAT

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