Garza Podcast - 41: Respect The Banjo

Episode Date: August 15, 2022

Garza and Zack the Kid talk about their upcoming plans to see Mudvayne and Knocked Loose. Don't take a selfie onstage during Show Me the Body. Fighting for the bar jukebox to play metal and much more! MERCH: kingsroadmerch.com/the-garza-podcast

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Hmm. I got to ask you a question recently. You know, what, uh, what chaser do you like with whiskey? Um, I'm a big mule guy, so I like ginger beer. Ginger beer. Yeah. Nice. Oh, yeah.

I realize that I don't like chasers. Just go straight. You know, you get older. You know, I'm jaded, as I always say, but, you know, I like. This is a great whiskey, so you don't really need, like, a Coke or, like, you know, something. No, that's for sure the thing. Because if you have a good liquor, there's no point in a chaser because you want to taste it. Totally.

Especially whiskey. Like, it's a little bit different with vodka, for example. I don't know anybody that would just take a swig of vodka and be like, oh, that tastes amazing. It tastes great. It's literally only meant for mixing, you know. Actually, you're right. vodka is like that. I mean, there might be some psychopath out there that, like,

sips on vodka, but it's, yeah, whiskey's definitely more of like a, you get, like the big circular cube glass. Yeah. And you can sip on it.

It's like a good, like, woods for a reserve or like, any of the more like barrel age kind of whiskey's, it's not meant to be mixed because you, it has like a very specific flavor, you know. Damn,

that's true. Yeah. Yeah, I, that just hit me, Zach. Holy shit. Zach,

the kid coming in with some fast. Facts, dude, like you, whenever I drink vodka, you're right. I'm always putting something in the vodka. Because, I mean, who wants to taste rubbing alcohol, you know? Best, dude, the best thing for vodka is lime juice. Yeah. It's just a little bit of, like, lime. It's like, oh, okay, it kind of kills.

Because me, my thing is, I like tasting my bad decision. Right. You know what I'm saying? Let me fully experience the shitty experience. You don't want it to sneak up on you, right? you want to know what you're getting yourself into. Yeah, good whiskey, just straight up or good tequila, straight up, dude. Tequila, straight up I'm now getting more into.

Yeah. I used to, you know, I actually didn't like tequila when I was, like, growing up, like, when I first started drinking as a teenager. Teenager? Yeah, I started drinking pretty early, to be honest. How early? Here we go. If I'm being honest, probably, like, 14 or so. 14.

Like, regular, like, drinking, like, several times a week, I would say 14. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I had like an early drinking kind of phase and I got pretty much out of it to that extent, you know. Wow. But yeah, so as far as like whiskey though, or no, sorry, tequila, in the last like four or five years, I got super into it. And I think it was like trying mescal that really did that.

Ms. Call. Miss Gall is my favorite type of tequila. It's a good one. Yeah. The smoky flavor, you know. Oh, yeah. You know, you're still, obviously, you're Zach the kid. You're still young, so now you're just getting into it.

Oh, wow, you know, I don't have to drink just to get drunk. I'm drinking and actually enjoy the taste and experience. You know, alcohol, if you're lucky, like myself and like you, you drink it, you enjoy it. And there's, you, you welcome the experience, you know. And I do, I've seen with friends and past, let's say, work associates where, like, a lot of people cannot have one drink and stop. A lot of people are like that. And the older I get them, I realize, oh, shit.

Like, if I'm just here talking casually about drinking whiskey or having a beer and stopping, people are like, I don't, I'm like, oh, shit. Like, like, a lot of people aren't like that. Yeah. Or, like, if they open up the floodgates, they just can't fucking stop. No, I get that. No, for sure. And I think that's pretty relatable for anyone that grew up in L.A., especially if you grew up in kind of like a rougher area. Yeah.

Drinking was kind of like a coping thing for a lot of people. Yes. Like it is for fun, but at the same time it was to kind of like compensate for something you were going through for a lot of people that I knew especially. Sure. Yeah.

And I definitely can't deny it the fact that alcohol does alleviate some, like the edge of surface level edge of like social anxiety. Yeah. It definitely like will kind of ease it, like calm down like a little bit, you know, have a beer and that's, I, straight up,

Like, I personally do that. I mean, I'll go to, like, a big event, you know, we're from, we're from Southern California. So obviously, we're always, if we're going to even a party or a hangout, it's like, you're going to be around a lot of fucking people. True. So it's like, okay, I'll have, like, you know, a beer. No, totally.

And I just chill. But, but the secret is, you got to know when the fucking stop, you know. Okay, I know, I know when to stop. I will handpick days I get hammered. Okay, that show will get hammered at. That show I'm going to have a beer. some shows will be like okay I'm not drunk at all you kind of I kind of know like the context of each

show but it does I just don't you can't deny it like okay have a beer you're kind of just chilling yeah and it feels it does feel so much better there is something beautiful about just having a beer it is love it dude because you know you're not getting drunk you're just you know because I'm naturally an introvert as well I've become more

extroverted with time just working in the music world and stuff like having it you know network and stuff. But, you know, I'm naturally introverts, so I agree. Like, when I'm going to a big event especially, man, it's just so much easier to talk to people openly when you've had a beer to just relieve that anxiety that a lot of introverts will have when you're in a big group of people. It's true.

You know. Yeah, well, I don't, I mean, I've hung out with you quite often now, and I've never seen you drunk or act out of line. I don't, I mean, no, not at this point. I would say probably the most we've drank together was probably chaos and carnage, right? Yeah. Because we, I mean, we parted a little bit,

but it was like pretty mild. Yeah. It was like maybe like three drinks or so, something like that. You're probably professional, dude. Sometimes. You're a professional. Try, man. Yeah.

Trying. I think that's what being a professional is. If you're trying and doing your best, I think that's what is that. You know, kind of like this, like this conversation, this podcast, we are just unprofessional,

we're trying to look like we're professional, you know, but I think it's that act, though, it's an act of just doing your best, you know, whether you can relate that to your own lives for those of you listening and watching, like, you know, if you encounter,

you know, if you're hanging out in public, you know, you just do your best to be cool, have a good time. It's what we're all doing, really. Yeah, exactly. You know, especially in the entertainment world, man, like the more people I meet in this world, even people that, you know, have been doing it for a long time and are in our professionals.

You know, at the end of the day, there's just like a regular person just trying to figure things out and do what they love, you know. So I agree, man. It's, it's being, yeah, like, what does being professional mean? Yeah. It's just people that work, people that do this full time. That's all it means. It doesn't mean that you're some prodigy or that you were like born with a gift. It just means like, hey, we do this.

for a living. We're humans. We have emotions like everyone else. Because I think, especially in the music world, people definitely kind of like put music people, whether you're like actually playing in a band or if you're behind the scenes, you're kind of put into a category by some people.

True. You know. And you're almost viewed as like, oh, you're just like a music person. So that's all you do 24-7. It's like, no. Sometimes I just want to like hang out and watch, you know, something on HBO Max.

You know what I mean? it's not it's not just like watching music videos 24-7 and like you know what I mean that's not my life all the time yeah so so it's an interesting thing that uh we kind of get uh stereotyped into i feel like yeah it's like it's like you must be listening to death metal all the time you have to be right yeah yeah he's like uh no i'm listening to corn or some new bands yeah you know some you know some turn style or maybe like some some lady Gaga you know you never know where it's going to go we're not we're not listening to

Furnal the whole the whole fucking day dude I love pop music to put that out there especially like modern pop music I love what's going on in that world dude they're taking it to a whole new level as far as like musicly songwriting to pop is like whoa like taking risks

too yeah that's like such a huge thing that I've been impressed by is pop artists you know with big budgets that have like big label backing doing super off the wall stuff it's like not safe by like you know business technical means but but you know sometimes you have to take that leap and just kind of like let your fans take it how it is you know totally and there's a lot of heavy shit out there when i say heavy i don't mean like you know metal heavy i mean like you know there's there's many forms of heavy you know it could be a pop

song it could be a hip hop song a rap song could be uh you know kind of a corpse it could be if it hits you a certain way to me that's that's heavy you know it's like heavy in content yes it doesn't have to be a drop tune guitar or a scream yes but it's something where you hear it and it hits you like deep in your soul to me that's what heavy is it's like impactful you know totally and i remember like i would say uh lady gaga's first record just dropped and that song just dance was like the song i believe it's track one off like that first record Yeah. And like there's something about that song.

I'm like, I will say it out loud for a bunch of like, you know, people in our scene. Like, dude, this is fucking heavy. For sure. Like really heavy. And people are like, look at me. Like, what do you mean? I'm like, I don't know. It just feels heavy.

This is a heavy song that that beat is fucking sick. The fucking core progression. Obviously, Lady Gaga, she's, her talent is, I mean, unmatched. Like, I mean, I just started saying it. And people will give you like, like a look. She's heavy? It's like, well, yeah. That was before.

That was acceptable too. Oh, yeah. To, like, be stoked about a pop artist in the metal world, right? Yeah. This was 2009. Wait, yeah. No one was shouting out pop artists in 2009 in the metal world. No.

No. Yeah. Speaking of 2009, we're going to talk about our weekend plans. This Friday, I'm going to see Mudvane. I'm wearing the shirt because this is fucking mudvane week, dude. I'm so excited. That's my childhood right there. Do that record, LD 50 is so sick.

Man. Dude, I mean, yeah, Dig is definitely, like, one of the most influential, not even just metal, just alternative pieces of art, you know? Yeah. That video is insane, too. It's so simple, but just, like, the close-up on, like, the bass thump. Yeah. There's something about that.

And then the singer comes in looking insane. Like, I love the way they presented their art, you know. It was game-changing, for sure. Yeah. They, excuse me, talk about like they just, man, they just nailed every detail. Like the way they presented themselves. Yeah. And the music, like, damn.

Money is so, if he listened to that first fucking, that is a heavy record. And Chad Gray and shout out. Jesus Christ, man. He's such a extreme vocalist. No, he's incredible. And his spits, like, I'm curious how he's going to pull him off live because those bits are all, like, dude. Like, you're saying a lot of shit.

Oh, yeah. in the extreme way if you fuck up I'm not gonna blame you I'm still gonna buy the fucking $80 t-shirt outside No for sure Which is my plan Yeah the bootleg one outside

That's funny No but yeah it is kind of crazy Like his vocals were probably Some of the first like rap metal Like super kind of like What like a band's like a Tilla and stuff do now Yeah But like the rapid fire like scream thing

Yeah They might have maybe they weren't the first But they were definitely one of the first to do it in that way. Totally. I mean, yeah, shout out to his drag, try great man. Yeah, you listen to those bits in the first record.

You're like, holy shit. He was, I don't know if I should say this. Oh, fuck it. I've been talking to Chad back and forth via text and, you know, I was going to invite him. I did invite him to the podcast for Friday, but he was down. He seemed into it because it's really hard.

One of the biggest challenges for what we're doing here, we're not sacrificing anything where we're not uh if you've seen every podcast it's all done here yeah and we're not going to them we're not traveling it's just like if you want to have the best conversation possible you're going to come here and you know uh many emails or texts have gone uh no reply from me like if if you're going to say oh come to me or any of that i just basically i'm it's basically a no i'm not i mean it was a big it was a pretty a lot of A lot of steps. So we're going to commit to this, the best conversation possible.

You're part of it or you're not. Chad was really cool. He was down. And then he had that like fall. I don't know if he saw it last week. Yeah. Did he like break his ribs or something? He said his record pretty fucked.

Yeah. He like cracked them or something. Yeah. He's not doing too well. Damn. Dude, that's horrible. I saw the video. I mean, just by the sound because the person filming was on the other side of the

barricade. Yeah, you hear like smack or like, oh. You hear like the. the skin hit. Yeah, it's like, it's not good. Man. Like, it reminded me almost like of like a skateboarding fall.

Like it had that kind of impact. Yeah. I've heard that before. It's usually not good. Not good. Especially like a fucking steel barricade. Yeah, those, I've jumped over those before.

They're so heavy and so like, if you land on that, I mean, you're not going to be in good shape. Totally. Yeah. And I know, I don't know what it is like to even be a singer,

but if your ribs are fucked up and Chad is a 100% genuine class dude. Like I don't know if he's saying everything but I could tell he's hurting up there and he's putting everything he can into each show because people haven't seen mudvane in 13 years.

Yeah. He's giving everything he has and, you know, so we're talking and then for me to ask him after all how you're feeling to ask him like hey still but still come down here you know it's like that's very selfish you know

I'm like so I'm like dude don't worry about it next time you know whatever because his musicians are very like moody because I'm moody I'm a fucking moody guy and like someone's gonna sit across me and I want him to fully be present and not have to worry about like a pain

it sucks dude you don't want them to be worrying about something in the back of their head when they're trying to do a podcast yeah you know when we were hanging out with somebody and you have like a toothache or a headache or you're just having a bad day. It does weigh on the conversation that you're having.

It sucks because you want to be more involved, but you just... You're just not in the mood for it. Yeah. I know what you mean. Yeah, totally. So it's all good. Next time, I'm looking forward to seeing him.

I mean, they're one of my favorite bands ever. Yeah. I mean, those records are fucking heavy, dude. They're definitely one of those bands that I probably would. wouldn't have found out about or until way later if it weren't for like lime wire and stuff like that line wire yeah because you'll you would like try to download a slip knot music video and then it would really be mudvane it's like one of those things oh yeah that happened to me i think i was downloading

like something like a i don't know what song from slip not but it was like off of iowa and then yeah it ended up being dig music video oh my goodness they did the flip they did the little switch yep and i was like whatever this is i'm down so i like somehow found them whatever reverse image search however you did it back in the day and um like this band is so sick and they're doing their own thing even though i found them through like searching for slip knot they're totally unique in their own way like the way they do like slap bass and all that so sick dude yeah the um yeah i mean Ryan is i mean one of the most sickest bass players i highly recommend if i'm not sane to smoke weed i'm not saying that I'm saying if you all

already do that. Great. I have an experience for you, but listen to the Mudavane, Mudavane's first record, L.E.50, high as fuck. Listen to Ryan, listen to those baselines.

You're sick. I've done it before. I was like, oh my God, what is he playing? Yeah. And that was actually. So insane. When I first met Ryan in 2009, that was the person I told him.

I was like, I was like, do you all was high last week. listening to you guys and my god your bass playing was this blowing my mind and they're all they're all humble guys like oh my god it's it's it's a it's nuts dude it's fucking that i mean he also he also has a great bass tone yeah no his bass tone i think is what got my attention yeah so unusual for a new metal band i think that's what stood out to me like it's super funky like like super like sounding bass tone. Yeah.

You know, like usually in new metal, you hear like the super deep booming tone. So that was a cool, that was a cool little way to set them apart, you know. Yeah. Dude, so sick. I mean, can't, I want to see him? Yeah, no, that's, that's going to be insane. It's going to be fucking sick. What do you got coming up this weekend?

I'm heading to the Gray Day on Friday, which is suicide boys, knock loose, not scheming. Mass to Slump God. So it's a cool mixed genre, a little festival. Suicide Boys does it every year. Last year they had turnstile. So I like to go in support just because I'm a big proponent of like mixing genres and kind of like pushing music forward in that direction. That's such a great tour.

Yeah. Man, yeah. Let me know how that goes, man. That's a great lineup. It's good to see any heavy band to play those kind of stages. It's fucking cool. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, they're doing all, like, stadiums and auditoriums. Wow.

I mean, they're playing the forum in L.A., which is, yeah. Can you imagine being, like, knock loose, you know? They started, like, about 10 years ago. Wow. You know, for a heavy band from 10 years from then to now to be playing stadiums with suicide boys, that's pretty incredible. That's incredible, man. Shout out to Knock Lose and Kato Orange is also on a date. It's right.

Yeah, actually, yeah, I'm sorry, Kota Orange is on the L.A. date, and then knock loose is San Diego. Interesting. So they're kind of doing the switch off thing. Wow. Where I'm sure the booking agent knows more about it, but like they, they tend to like, see, I guess, who's more prominent in which city, and they kind of give them, like, more of like the headliner slot, depending on that. But, no, I mean, it's either way, like, it's so sick just to have a death core band or

a band adjacent to death core on a mainstream. I mean, it's, it's underground. rap, but it's on a mainstream scale. You know. Yeah. That's incredible. And, you know, it's good for suicide boys as well because Knock Loose has a huge pool just

on their own, and so it's cold orange. So they're going to bring their own fans. It just seems like a win-win to me. Win-win for everybody. Yeah. Unless for small-minded, which a lot of bands are. Yeah. We won't. And we won't see names right now. That's fine. But yeah, it's

so fucking cool, man. Yeah. Yeah. Are you What's your plan? Are you going to get hammered? Are you just fucking hang out? I have a beer. Yeah, I'm getting a hotel with a couple of friends. Oh, shit.

We're going to like just hang out in San Diego. Damn, so good. And then head to the show, yeah. It's in Chula Vista, so it's only like a 20-minute drive. That's, you're fucking, you're partying a drunk. I may be slightly intoxicated. Wow. So unprofessional.

I may be shot. Dude. That not only. So, I'm going to San Diego the last week of August. Oh, what are you doing out there? That's my girlfriend's favorite city. Nice. So we're going to a nice semi-boosy beachfront hotel.

Okay. All right. Simple shit, you just go on sitting on the beach having a drink or a coffee. Just simple shit, you just love it. Yeah, no, honestly, I love San Diego, too. Their beaches are incredible. It is. Cool spot.

The vibe there, you know, it's so amazing. Like, I love going out there as someone that grew up in L.A. Like, it's so nice to just go, like, two hours south to a place where, like, they have the big city if you want that vibe. But even when you're there, it still has this, like, super chill, relaxed kind of beach city vibe to it, which I love. You know, it's not as, like, chaotic as L.A. can be sometimes. So it's nice that we have that little getaway when you need it. And, yeah, it's amazing down the way. even like their breakfast spots are incredible.

Oh my goodness. The food and breakfast down there, dude. What is it about beach cities and like good brunch spots? That's like a thing. Oh my goodness. I say, yeah, you know, I don't drink mimosas, but for some reason you're probably and get two of them. I mean, they're usually unlimited, so.

Yeah. Two is, if you cut yourself off, it's two. Yeah. Yeah, which you have to. You don't want to ruin your whole day. Yeah, that is true because then you'll take a nap at 2 p.m. and probably not wake up until. until like eight.

Yep, you don't want to ruin your fucking beautiful day off, you know. Exactly. So it's cool. You guys are getting your room down there. I'm going to see Knock Loose. Yeah, man. Suicide Boys. It's fucking badass.

It's going to be crazy. It's cool to see them in another city, too, because I've only been to L.A. Suicide Boy shows. Yeah. So it would be cool to experience different crowd, different vibe, you know. Nice. last week I tend to

if you're married or you have a boyfriend girlfriend is very important you need to go out with your stymic and other guys you could say once a week you have to so me and my chick go out at least could be Sunday or Saturday

but usually every Sunday we go out to like a nice brewery and it's a brewery we go to in my hometown and you ever realize sometimes you're like oh shit like I don't like a certain thing

and then hits you like oh shit I don't like this I do not fucking like I don't know what it is if I'm a hater or it's I don't know it awakens a hate inside me where if you're anywhere

for me I'll talk about this particular time we're at the brewery we're outside having having some beers and you people are fighting for the jukebox basically because now you have the app in your phone. Right. Everyone signs it and you pay money to play your song. And basically it's me and my friend Johnny that I usually

always see there on every Sunday. Yeah. They're basically the ones paying the priority in in the app. So you pay more to play like, you know, Slip My Iowa or like Fear Factory, any like heavy shit because you just want to hear every shit, you know? Yeah, for sure. Going out in the

speakers and I realize I fucking don't like this. And how do you say this people just play generic shit yeah they play like you can hear the song you hear it you already hear it everywhere right no hit the sublime i mean i mean obviously they're a legendary band yeah but when you play little songs that are already on the radio all the time they're everywhere and you play it again like why would you pay to hear santeria you've heard it a thousand times Like, holy shit.

And then, what else did I hear? I heard no disrespect to Leonard Skinnered. But it's just like, dude, we hear the songs all the time. They don't need any help with our push. They're already played all the fucking time. I mean, top 10 hip hop or rap or it says you don't need to hear this again. You don't. It's already, it's already everywhere.

And I realized, I literally realized this last week, I'm like, do I don't, I love metal. I love heavy shit. and I kind of do whatever I kind of play it and put it in people's faces. Yeah. You know, I'm like, dude, why are you fucking playing this shit, dude? Like, it's literally like, it's everywhere. Yeah. And I had a moment last week, and I was like, my voice might or might have not raised.

And someone played, it was either Sublime or Leonard Skittered. And I started yelling. Like, why are you playing the song? We hear it all the time. I see some people I go like this. And you get the normie stairs. Yeah, you get the normie stairs. Yeah, people that don't get it.

Obviously, you know, I'm, I was drunk. It's fine. And you're at a brewery. Yeah, you're at a brewery. I'm fucking drinking my... You're in your quadruble IPA? Oh, yeah. I'm drinking 12%.

I'm drinking my fucking 12% beer. I'm hanging in my beautiful chick and my friend Johnny and I love the new metal, which I do. And I'm just like, oh shit, but. I processed it after that day. I'm like, oh, shit, I do that. I'm that guy. Right. But you know what, dude?

Like, I think it's, you kind of need to stick up for your genre. No, for sure. I mean, it's why I don't want the whole gatekeeping thing. I'm just like, dude, like, it's literally us against everybody. Right. Literally. Like, it's metal and then there's everybody else. Yeah.

So if there's any time where I could kind of push into people's faces, I love doing it. That's why I'm always stoked when, like, select. celebrities talked about or rap like metal stuff. It's great. It's only good for what we're doing. Yep. You know. So this is what happens when, you know,

you pay a lot of money to listen to a song you love and you drink too much. So this is what we were doing last week. Yeah. The double head bang going on. That's so amazing. So that's, you know, that's, I obviously, that face right there is probably not sober. I would say You're having a good time

Having a great time That's what matters Obviously you can see It's a very normal spot You're just wondering by people That don't listen To probably that style of music But god damn

You gotta you gotta fucking stick up For the music that you love You know But see it's all about just getting them In the vibe Because you start double head banging And before you know it You know

The blonde chick that's hanging out They would maybe rather listen To like a trap song She's like you know what This kind of sick Who is this? Is this corn? Yeah, no, like exactly.

So it's like, sometimes you just need to win them over. Yeah. You know, and that's what's been happening a lot lately is like people realizing that they like heavy music. Like true. They went their whole life not knowing that they like it. But once they're like properly introduced to it and not like judge for it, you know what I mean? You have to introduce normie people to have your music with a very open mind. Yes.

You have to let them react to it in whatever way they're going to. Yeah. And let it kind of like ease on to them. It's true. Yeah. And then what if you give them that space where they feel like not judged, they feel like they're being respected. A lot of times they'll come around to them be like, you know what? I really like this.

Because it gives me an emotion that no other music does. Wow. You know. You definitely can't deny the emotion that heavy shit gives you. Yeah. I think it's something that everyone can relate to. Even if you're like a completely normal plain-jane person. Yeah.

And I think that's why rap is getting more aggressive too. It's just that thing. Like everyone has that stress that they need to get out, whatever your job, your family, maybe relationship having problems with, whatever it is. Yeah. Everyone has that buildup of stress where if you listen to, to an aggressive beat

or an aggressive rock song, it gives you this, like, release. It gives you this feeling where you're like, okay, I'm good now. I needed to hear that. Totally. You know? I might have ruined that experience for him,

but whatever. I mean, sometimes then you've got to yell at them a little bit, though. Sometimes you got to yell at people, you know? You got to give them a little, you know, a little pep talk. Yeah. You know what you love it when, you know,

I'm fucking broke, straight up. and like I'm playing money I don't have money I don't have plain metal on this fucking jukebox I'm like a priority yeah you gotta get the fear factory track on there fucking sublime I want to want your fear factory right now yeah yeah we need dno on the speakers right now oh my goodness dude yeah it fucking does something dude yeah it's so it's so fucking badass just speaking of a new artist which you or you already knew about him before For me, this band called Show Me the Body. And for anyone listening and watching, check out that band.

There's a banjo player. Oh, yeah. But it has like this fucking, this crust vibe to it. It's like crust punk and doom metal and folk punk all mixed together. They're insane. Yeah, there's definitely like a folk element to it, right? Yeah. No, it's like if you take one of those like folk punk bands, they would play like by a railroad check.

Yeah. And you mixed it with like a crust punk hardcore band. Like you mix them with like, I don't know, like Coles or Converge or something like that. Wow. It's crazy. That's a good description. Yeah, right before you got here, it was just outside just playing those songs. I was like, what the fuck is this?

Yeah, just go on Spotify or Apple where you go. Just play those first five songs to let it. It's go on a journey. It's banjo, but there's, yeah, it's weird. And somehow every song is different, you know? Yeah, that is true. Every song is different. But yeah, I mean, I love heavy bands.

And that's like, I mean, don't listen to it expecting like a fucking death core breakdown or anything. But it's like, it's a very unique heavy band. It's fucking cool. And the reason why I found it was because of this fucking video. Check it out. Oh my goodness. This is, first of all, don't ever approach a man that has a banjo. Don't ever do that.

Fact. So, so first, first mistake. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. Okay. I mean, don't, first of all, don't selfie. with the singer, especially if he's aggressively playing a banjo. Yeah, what do you even start there?

I mean, what do you even start the word? You just fucked up, dude. I love that the kids trying to do like a TikTok dance, you know? He's doing one of those like TikTok selfie dance challenge things in front of the singer. Like during the most intense part of the song. You just don't do that. No. that'd be like if you guys were about to drop

into like a super heavy breakdown and some kid just like it's trying to like get in Eddie's way that's not gonna go well yeah you know it's just you're ruining the moment guy totally you know you know yeah it's like okay what's like the right

thing to say there I'm like okay you got pushed off the fucking stage but there is there is like a level where like if you go on a stage I believe it's fair game Yeah, you're assuming any risk for sure To me

I mean if you come on the stage It's fair game So if you get pushed off I mean you You're coming On the stage With full knowing Whatever happens after

It's your fucking Responsibility Straight up Yeah because what kids like that Don't understand Like it's one thing If you're gonna get up And stage dive

Yeah stage dives That's part of the scene We all know that it's accepted But like If you're gonna get up there And like run around and get into people's gear and stuff, I don't think a lot of kids understand,

you can screw up the whole show. You step on someone's pedal board or you go and plug something. I mean, the show is done. Yeah. You know, it's ruined. Especially if you're on, like, a lot of bands are on, like, a backing track

where they have to go, like, onto a click for their whole set. There's so many things you can screw up if you, like, accidentally step on, like, someone's gear. Totally. So I don't blame bands for, you know, being pretty adamant about that. Yeah

Yeah, it's like It's one of those things where When you go up there and do a selfie Or a video of a selfie I don't know man That's kind of like That's that's fucking shot I'm sorry

It's rough It's rough and it's hard to be cool In that kind of scenario Where it's like get the fuck out of here dude Because at that time You're making it all about you Yeah You know what I mean

Like you don't care About the like whatever artist is playing You just want to get like Your 15 seconds of fame kind of thing. And you don't approach someone with the banjo. I don't know what it is, dude.

Like, just don't do that. I'm not messing with the banjo guy. I wouldn't do that. No. If you're playing a banjo, I'm not going to go up to you on stage. Especially aggressively strumming the banjo and yelling. I'm not going up to that guy.

And the very little I know about this band show me the body. They seem very serious. Very serious. Yeah. You're not messing around. It's funny. And, and,

and the individual or kid gets pushed, it looks like that PA. Yeah. Like the whole P. He knocks over. It's like one of those PAs that are just on a stand. Yeah, yeah. And the kid, I think the kid exaggerates it too.

I've watched that video a couple times. Yeah. The guy really, the singer really gives him a nudge. Yeah. He's like, get out of the way more or less. Yeah. And the kid, like, he like literally launches his whole body into the speaker.

So I'm not going to say it was planned, but it might have been planned. land, to be honest. Oh, wow. Now we're going to the conspiracy. Yeah. I mean, because he's filming

himself, right? Yeah. So he's like, okay, I'm going to film myself in front of the singer. He knows he's going to get pushed because it's just kind of common sense. Yeah.

Because he flew into the speaker like he got launched by the Incredible Hulk. His whole body, literally like, he flew off of his feet. Wow. You know,

like I've never seen that. That's so, it was, you're asking me that is 100% deserved. Oh yeah. For sure. You don't approach me on the banjo. Sorry.

I'm sure the kid was stoked. So probably it's fine. Like no harm done for sure. That probably made his whole like this whole year. So cool. I knocked up to the BA. Sick as fuck, dude. I fucked up the show.

Oh my God. I ruined a show for everybody. Or made it better. Who knows? I guess that's the gamble, right? I mean, look, hopefully it gets a couple more hundred people to go to a show me the body show. Yeah, I mean, stuff like that

I mean, it did It did for me Like I saw that Obviously, it's a viral clip now Yeah, and like I'm like, who's this band? Yeah, man, so I guess you can kind of always look at the positive sides of things

Totally That was one gig And now maybe their career is going to be better Because of like a funny video Totally Yeah, I'm if they're in town I'm going to see him Just because of that video

I wouldn't have known about him It wasn't for that, you know, semi, you know, viral video Sometimes you need a little technical difficulty moment. You do. I got that from one of the older CEOs of Netflix and he said that sometimes you just need attention.

And it's so true. Like sometimes you can have like the perfect thing. You have the perfect marketing. You're putting it out there. You're putting it in the work. There's no one. You're spending on the money. You have no money.

But sometimes you need attention. Yeah. And it's very true. Like if the if what you're doing is, it's pure, it's sick. sometimes you need a little bit of attention you know yeah no absolutely negative attention is

it's still attention at the end of the day it's uh it always I think in the end of the day people kind of know and it goes to like some conscious like I think we just go to some conscious

like okay I mean then you check it out oh this is like real shit yeah this is a great podcast this is a great band or wait this Netflix is sick like so you don't like you don't get negative attention

for the sake of like just doing it it's just kind of happens and like oh okay but the but what what they're doing is awesome Yeah, no, I love, shout out, show me the body, they're great, love what they're doing. They're awesome. I would love to get them here on the podcast. I'll be sick to talk to them.

Yeah, man, I would actually love to hear their backstory because I know about their music. I've listened to them for maybe like a year or so, but I don't know too much about them personally. Yeah, it sounds East Coast. I could be wrong, it sounds East Coast. Yeah, actually, I also don't know where they're from. So if you guys are local, I mean, reach out. Yeah, you were saying probably Philadelphia. Corpus, New York?

Oh, there you go. New York, that's East Coast as fuck. Yep. Corpus New York. Where's Corpus New York? I think that's like upstate. Upstate? I could be wrong, but I think that's like near Syracuse and all that. That sounds right.

That's a hard city name. Corpus, New York. It sounds like Corpus Christi, Texas. It does. That was my first thought as well. Yeah. See, you got the fucking images. Corpus New York.

Well, it looks beautiful. Oh, wow. There's so many cool little cities in the East Coast like this that are, like, hidden, like, super small population. Yeah. Cool. Do you have any tour dates? The fuck. I believe they are on tour right now.

Oh, yeah, is that with Angel Dust or is that just a one-off? Angel Dust, huh? Yeah, Angel Dust is sick. If you haven't heard them, it's the drummer. are from Turnstiles other band. Oh, wow, really? And they're sick. They're like, I don't even know how to describe them.

They sound like kind of like 80s, 90s skate punk kind of stuff. Oh, wow. Yeah. Very, like, throwback. They're really sick, though. Well, it looks like they're just doing like... Kind of one-offs. Like some one-offs did nine weeks ago?

Oh, yeah. They played Sound and Fury a couple of weekends ago. And that was in LA. Was it? Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's just Los Angeles. Dude, this always fucking happened. That pisses me off.

You find you a band or you hear a new record. They just played. They were just here like two weeks ago. That is the, oh my goodness, dude. I hate that. They were just here. That happens to me all the time. July.

I'll find out about a band like as they're playing. I'd be like, oh, they're already playing a show right now. And I just heard them. Wow. Yeah. Jeez, one ways. Well, hopefully next time, show me the bye. bodies in town. I'll go on stage,

take a selfie, I'll get pushed off and go viral. And I'm like, hey, I'll film it. I'll film it for podcast content. Yes. We need podcast content. We need we need a fucking get some attention. So I'll go on the stage, get pushed off. Yeah, so show me the body if you're down to toss Garza offstage. Let's make it happen.

I'm so. I'm so and well, Zach, I hope you have a good time at the San Diego show. Hopefully not glue is sick. I'm stoked. Yeah, have fun at mudvane. I'm actually a little jealous, not going to lie. Mudvane, dude. We're fucking heavy, dude. That's going to be incredible. Holy shit, dude. What,

so what are your socials? So, Instagram, Astral Media, A-S-T-R-A-L, media. And that's pretty much it. I have also personal, but yeah, just hit me up on Instagram if you want to check out my stuff. Sick, cool.

I want to be, this might be the first time we announced it. August 31st, we are, dropping a new song from the record. This is the first song we're dropping from new record, and that's going to come out, August 31st. Again, we have five headline dates out to Lama Guide. September 1st, we're going to be a Farmington, New Mexico, September 2nd.

We got Lubbock, Texas at Jakes, September 3rd, Oklahoma City, at 89th Street, Collective, September 4th in Springfield, Outland Ballroom. Holy shit, that's fucking badass. And then September 6th, we are in Lexington, Kentucky at the Manchester Music Hall. All those states, except for

Kentucky, are with King Hill, and they're fucking badass. Love that, man. They're so fucking sick. And then, obviously, we go right into Lama God. September 9th, New York, New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio, Maryland, Georgia, Florida,

Florida, Boston, Massachusetts, Kentucky again, Chicago, and then Indiana, and we drop off the tour September 30th in Denver, Colorado. So yeah, all those dates, cities, check them out. If you don't know, it's with Lamb and God, Killswitch Engage, and our dates are with Baroness. And that'll be a fucking sick time, can't wait. And then I believe it's the, wait, I believe it's the 31st. We're going to be in New Mexico as well. I think we're playing.

It's right in the border of New Mexico and Arizona. We're playing some festivals. So be on the lookout for that. And yeah, thank you for listening and watching. Yes, sir. If you haven't subscribed to the podcast, do it. If not, that's cool too. Thank you for listening and watching.

And next week, hopefully we have a guest. I'm about the email, but it's looking pretty good. I'm stoked for that one. Holy shit for sure all right one again thank you for listening and watching until next time Harry's podcast of all time later