Garza Podcast - 45: DYING WISH

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

Dying Wish is an American metalcore band from Portland, Oregon. We talk about touring with Limp Bizkit, working with Knocked Loose & much more! SPONSORS: Click this link to purchase from Sweetwater & help support the podcast: imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB 00:00 - Intro 00:45 - Limp Bizkit tour & Fred Durst discovering Dying Wish on TikTok 08:42 - Being from Portland, OR & how the band formed 17:01 - Knocked Loose 22:17 - Telling your story & dealing w set backs from COVID 26:48 - Favorite bands: At the gates, Terror, Hatebreed & As I Lay Dying  34:29 - Communication, exercise & looking after your mental health 41:44 - On Metalcore, Screamo & choosing your Myspace song 49:00 - Suicide Silence X Taylor Young 52:50 - Writing & Recording process for Fragments of a Bitter Memory 57:38 - Dealing w anxiety, being nervous & new Drying Wish music DYING WISH is: Emma Boster, Pedro Carrillo, Andrew Le, Sam Reynolds & Jeff Yambra

It's been a constant grind. So it's like hard for it to set in. I'm pretty sure that's how friend discovered us was on TikTok. Really? He said during the pandemic, he went through like a TikTok wormhole. You know, we play with bands. We wanted to play with like vein and stuff. And then pandemic happens.

The next thing you know, we're in this position. It's really wild. Whenever I need music gear, I always go to sweetwater.com. If it's mics, headphones, or studio and recording gear, Sweetwater has you covered. Next time you need any music. gear support the podcast by using the link in the description and comment section below one Eric we're good okay cool today I am honored the whole band dying wish is here in the

studio Santa Ana welcome thank you yeah thank you it's an honor can we do a quick intro just so people watching listening yeah absolutely Jeff I play drums I'm Andrew I play bass Pedro I play guitar am I do vocal Emma? I'm not Emma. I'm Sam. I'm Sam. What the fuck just happened?

I did the guitar. Can you have a stroke, man? I did. No, I did the same thing. I'll say something. I'm like, am I having a stroke right now? I'm listening around. I'm like, okay, I'm not Jeff.

I'm not Andrew. Don't fuck up. No, you just don't fuck up. Don't fuck up, man. Who am I? You just heard four different names go into your mind at once. Exactly.

Well, today, you're playing a house of blues. Great, great venue. Stoked. Great, great PA, it's been it's been so amazing. Can't wait. Our man Connor is going to mix us great. Yep. Really?

Mm-hmm. Have I met Connor? Connor is a guitar tech for Prada. We met him when we started. We did a tour with Motionless and he was working for them as well. Okay. Motionless is like his main job. He does monitors for them, I believe.

Yeah. Monitors for them and he mixed us on that tour. I think that was like one of his first times doing like front of house. Yeah. So he's kind of just like been mixing us a little bit. And so when we found out that he was going to be on this tour, we're like, hey, you want to mix us on this tour too? Great.

So, yeah. And he's been killing it. Great. How's the tour with Prada going? Fantastic. Excellent. Perfect. Yeah.

Yeah, they're playing both EPs, correct? Yeah. And then, some new stuff as well. Yeah. They do some songs. They do both zombies. They do more songs. Great.

It's dope. You, your band has done. I'm impressed with the amount you've accomplished in three, four years. Because you formed in 2018, correct? Yeah, yeah. Just the amount you have done already is pretty, it's pretty impressive. Seems fake. Seems like, like, what?

Like all those bands? It really hasn't like sink and sunk in, like to me, honestly. Yeah. It's just been like a lot. Yeah. It's been a constant grind. So it's like hard for it to set in. Right.

It's like since, since the. the pandemic kind of let up and tours been happening again, like, it's, we like haven't stopped. Yeah. So. I do think that this tour is the one that it's setting in for me, though, because we are getting really great treatment being as an opening band, but it's, we're one of three. So, you know, we get a soundtrack every day. And we usually get a green room and like the treatment's been really great.

And so, um, and the crowds are awesome. So I think it's like actually setting in for me now as opposed to like when we were on tour. with limp biscuit i was like this isn't real so you did for a limp biscuit huh how was that awesome about me still unreal yeah hasn't said it fred is like the coolest person ever yeah really yeah he's so funny first day he was like he introduced he like walked us he like walked us he like walked up to our trailer like introduced himself to all of us and was like saying how honored he was really yeah like bro we're honored you yeah what do you what do you mean you're honored It's crazy.

It's crazy when you listen to a band first and they're right in front of you. And then you're on tour with them. That's such a crazy thing. Yeah. Kind of feeling that like with this tour too. Really? Yeah. Feeling this right now.

Yeah. Currently feeling this sitting in this room. Pretty emotional. I'm gonna like. Wow, how did that tour with Limpiscuit come up? That's a pretty big offer. Tom came to us and was like, do you guys, want to do this tour with Limp Biscuit.

But I think we were... Tom is our manager. Tom Lowe. Oh, yeah. Plainswood's Armstrongstrey. Well, we mentioned Tom. Yeah. But I think we were busy at the time, and then we, like, didn't hear anything about it.

Yeah. So we had the Code Orange tour booked. Yeah. And he was like, yeah, Biscuit asked if we could do the tour, but, like, we couldn't. And then it came back around, and what they did was they split the tour with support, like, in half. So we did the second half of the tour. So it's like...

And then Fred was talking to... to us and he's like I really wanted you guys like he like he knew us and like wanted us to be on the tour so I guess they made it work so that we could do half the tour yeah knowing that we were already on the road so it's like I don't know they like it really like it feels surreal they like bent it to where like made it work for us rather than like rather than like all right fine we can't get them so whatever right they made it work for you guys that's yeah it's Imagine that. So wild.

Thanks, TikTok. It's hard to imagine that. I'm pretty sure that's how Fred discovered us was on TikTok. Really? He said during the pandemic, he went through like a TikTok wormhole. And that's how he found scowl in us. Wow. It was like a live video of like someone like filming us playing.

And then it just like went viral for some reason. At midnight hour in SFV. Oh, yeah. And Andrew wasn't present. Oh, yeah. And people were like. I co- Why isn't their base?

That was like the first two were back from the pandemic and that was like one of the last shows Everyone was getting COVID. He got COVID so he had to leave and so. We had the, it was the motionless and white tour and we had like routing shows afterwards because it ended like somewhere out east.

Yeah. So we were doing routing shows back home with Silent Planet and then there was like three more and I like got COVID at the very end of it. So yeah. Didn't play the last few shows. Yeah, we had to like

play bass with like tracks or whatever like oh shit that's not fun yeah that's that that all happen yeah you know how did you COVID I don't know we were in Texas that's a great answer yeah one of the guys emotional has got COVID too the same yeah you had to see at Nashville and he didn't finish the tour yeah nobody else but then we all tested and we were all negative yeah so I got I got it like a week or two later yeah I don't I don't remember the dates but yeah and nobody else did I got COVID after our tour with the acacia strain and we were all in a van together for two and a half days and I was the only one that got it still.

I don't get how that works. Yeah. It's so bizarre. That tour also got caught short like three shows because someone else got COVID and so they didn't like cancel the rest of the shows. Yeah. Yeah, that first tour back is always kind of rough. Everyone's catching COVID.

Some people aren't talking about it. Some bands are not talking about it. So playing a show and some, yeah, some obviously tours get cut show. short. We were on tour of Ginger like halfway through we uh the whole I didn't expect this I'm like are we gonna be the band that is he's playing shows I don't know and then halfway through the whole band had it so it's like can't really hide that yeah it can't it can't really just go out there but I mean yeah you guys uh you you you got through it's cool yeah yeah it's been it's been quite the journey the last like year honestly and um you know we we were a very small band and then um um

We did a tour with counterparts and met Tom and he became our manager. And then the pandemic happened. And we got signed and did a record over the pandemic. And then we've just, as soon as we could tour, we've been pretty much doing it nonstop. I think seven months out of the last year have been complete touring. That's pretty crazy. It's kind of like everything was timed out perfectly, even with the pandemic. It's so bizarre.

Time was in our favor for sure. Yeah. Cause talk about, because the band formed in 2018, correct? Yeah, like early 2018. Wow. From what I found, it looks like it's all of you, right? So, I mean, how did the band start? Well, us three have known each other forever.

We went to middle school and high school together, and we started like a shitty, like, fucking hardcore band that was like not good. Right. And then... It was our first band. Yeah. I even like still think that I mean dying was just still like our first band like we just change our name and then you know Sam joined the band I met them at a house show Yeah that place that creeping death is playing yeah and momentum

That band is very sick I think they are they busted a window like we knew like we knew like in a this friend group we were in this friend group like we knew like about each other and then like we saw each other at that show show and then we're like, do you want to be in her band? He's like, yeah. I guess I'll do it. Yeah. Sam was playing bass, which is crazy because Sam is lead now and writes all the music. And then Andrew came to a show and took

photos. And the photos were sick. They were so cool. And I knew we played bass in a band called Hampton. So I asked him, I was just like, hey, do you know anyone that wants to play bass? And he was like, well, I play bass. And I was like, cool, come to practice. And it was just like ever since then, you know, one of us.

Yeah, that was basically the start of it. Right. First show you played with us was vain. Yeah, it was Van Judiciary. Mm-hmm. At Blackwell. Because we changed our name, and then, like, one of the first shows was with Sam and then the next few shows with it, and it was Andrew.

So, like, yeah. Our first show as Dying Wish was with Notchlews. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I believe. You're right. I'm going to take a quick guess with at the Hawthorne. No, this was at a spot that's no longer.

Anologue. A analog theater in Portland. I've never been there. It's a. It was a 300-Cap room. So this was, I want to say, Noxleuze's first headliner was with Terror and Jesus Peace and Year of the Knife. Yep. And we opened and that was kind of how the whole like Nox Luce thing started.

But they were, you know, they were having a local opener on each show and they, you know, they're the best. So they picked the bands that they like from the area and we were them. So that's really cool. You were hand-picked? Yeah, it's awesome. How? I don't know They liked our shitty band

Because of you're shitty at the time I think everyone inoclus Like kind of like keeps their like They know every new band that comes out They know every new like music That's what's up Yeah Yeah so they like very

They're like They're on it I guess you can say Like they really know like who's who They're really very much hardcore Their ears are to the streets I was gonna say that Yeah That's great

And you're based out of Portland Correct Is it Portland or is it outskirts of Portland. Portland. Portland. Oh, it's pretty rare. That's pretty rare. Mm-hmm. We're all born in Raisin, Oregon, so I think we all live in Portland proper now.

Well, kind of. That explains your sound. It sounds, it's very hard to do the type of music that you do, we do, and have it, like, have it, like, you know where the band's from, and you know, and he has, like, that personality in it. You know, the band has, like, that sound, and it explains a lot when you're all born in the same state. It's cool. you know well thank you i never thought about that i guess yeah and also i didn't know you some of you went to high school even more so middle school middle school middle school middle school middle literally known them for more than half my life it's crazy they knew my cousin yeah

okay we went to high school with and middle school with his cousin yeah dude it was i mean like when i met when i met him is like when i like learned about like metal core and like death core and shit like yeah it's my fault what it's straight edge and shit so like oh that's what he was like the one who like introduced all that shit to me and then i was like like Like, here's throw down. Yeah. Not even, it was like a mirror. Oh, wow.

He had the best haircut. Oh, of course. No, yeah, I was one of those weird kids who like stay up like to like 4 a.m. look up random stuff on MySpace, like random bands. All my excuse the best. Like just like, oh, why are this, why is this band in their top eight? I'm going to look them up. And then just over and over again.

And then yeah, I'd be like, hey, you should check out this bin. Like, you know, stuff like that. We started going to shows together in the eighth grade. Probably we saw prod it together. for sure probably yeah yeah and you know my first my first show ever stage diving I pee was there and yeah it's been taking the bus I like one in the morning in like deep downtown yeah me and you did that and saw like I wrestled a bear once and it was like yeah one of the worst nights in my life not really but it was it was it was it was like the first

time I've ever done anything like that and I lied to my mom and I'm dead You like, I'm going to spend the night at Peter's house And it's just going to be Yeah, I'm the bad influence He was the good kid And then we took a bus to downtown Portland And then we saw a wrestle with Bear once

In like some of their random bands Where was that? It was the TerraCon Rip Oh my goodness Rip That's a evil show That shit's evil

Didn't Joey Jordan Sam, Ress and Peace Played like toward them Right? I have no idea I don't know I don't know I could a fact check that

Wow. You got a fact checker? Give it a goop. Being from Portland, what was your venue? I never knew about the analog till this moment. I know there's a Hothorn. Hotthorn. For sure.

Yeah, like all the bands, in the Rise Records, like, boom in era and the Samarian era, all of those bands would come play. You saw all those bands. Oh, yeah. They always came through Portland, and now I feel like people skip Portland a lot more. But we, you know, the Rise Records is in Portland. Yeah. And now Equal Vision is too. It's very, there's something about being young

and seeing the bands in your face up close that just stays with you, you know? And then, oh, it's like, oh, shit. I mean, I could kind of do that, I think. I could kind of take photos and play a bass, you know, like, I think, right? Yeah, Hawthornewer's a sick venue. I imagine growing up around there, being a really cool place

to come up and see bands you know I'm from there once every two years but I imagine actually being there all the time really really cool to see bands play yeah it was really cool playing that show with Prada that was sold out earlier this week

because I've been going to shows there forever and Sam and I actually worked at the Hawthorne for a few years and so you know so much of my musical history and like the band's musical history is in that building When we did our record release show too, like we did our record release and it's like I don't know if it's sold out, but it was like very close to it selling out and it looks sold out and it's literally just for us Like the whole room is filled and like it's just kind of crazy I like going to shows there the whole time like growing up and then playing a sold out almost sold out whatever you want to say

That's a big moment show yeah based on us. Yeah, it's pretty sick. It's like full circle moment. Yeah That kind of shows you probably right like okay I I should keep doing this it does help kind of seen like the, oh, there's like people in the venue, you know, it kind of helps you keep going. It helps us keep going for sure. Yeah, it's definitely reassuring. It's definitely when it's like people you

don't know, have never seen another show and they're like, oh, you're my favorite band. Or like, I was like, oh, that's the thing for me. Yeah. Because I was like, okay, who are these people? When we play Portland, it's just like people that we know. But then like we're headlining the Hawthorne and there's like 350, 400 people there.

Like, who are you people? Like, how do you know who we are? Like, it feels weird in that sense. But, yeah, it's, it was, it was a really good night for sure. It's like, where all these people come from? I don't know. These aren't my friends? Yeah, like, most of them are friends that we know that are in there.

But then, like, 90% of them are not. It's just, yeah, weird catapulting from being like a local band that, you know, I would put on, because I would book shows and, you know, we play with bands. We wanted to play with, like, vein and stuff. and then pandemic happens and next thing you know we're in this position it's really wild.

That is wild. And you guys even have like a more deeper history with Hawthorn Lake so obviously you both used to work there and the show and knock loose already happened

and then you were working for a show for a trade you correct? Yeah. And then you got like a DM from Brian from Notgloose randomly saying sing on his track Yes, the day of the Atreu show.

I remember exactly where I was when he asked me. At the Hawthorne. At the Hawthorne, at the back gate, loading in Atreu. I know exactly where that is too. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it's awesome. And it's kind of crazy.

A moment like that has obviously stayed with you as it should. And what that has put your band, and the momentum that started just from that and obviously like you did the track and and they weren't like not loose yet i mean that was uh that was for a different shape of blue and that record turned to be that record you know again timing is so strange or like he happened to seduce guys vocals on a record that's going to take off right you know that band really came into their own on that record and just like they they reached the new level of you know their band and it's really cool to see their progression because that EP they did is also very good and I'm just

excited to see what they do next but honestly the way that they have carried us and like so many other bands just by like putting us on is really admirable and something that I know that we kind of want to hold as an example as well of course yeah you kind of want to patch a torch like you know any time you can help out somebody else like you do it you know You'll be surprised me if bands don't do that. It's nuts. A lot, I won't name names and we'll move on. Trying to make it a positive conversation.

Lynn Biscuit even like asking us. It's like another thing like a massive, like the biggest band in the world at one thing. It was like, knows who we are and wants to like put us on. It's so cool. It's really awesome. It is a community. That's what it's all about. It is.

It's a community. It's our culture. I was having a conversation yesterday with a friend of mine. well, I'm born and raised. He's like a death metal guy. Like an early 90s death metal. That's it. Everything else sucks.

You're all a bunch of pussies. But I was like, man, like, a lot of bands are defending right now. I know him. And they don't really want to build their community, which is, I think it's really lame. And to me, it's like, people forget. It's literally us against everybody. Literally. Like, like, Vital Taukas will get shit on.

They play the Grammys and like, here's Lady Gaga. Alice. It's like that's like that's summed up like where we're all at, you know. Right. It's like it's cool that any time you could get to, you know, push your band up, do it, you know. Yeah. It's sick. So what, so what happened after you do that track? Like what, like what happened after that? Well, we had already had enemies written.

And we were talking about, you know, wanting a feature on it. And then we just figured like, hey, want to trade features. And so he did that. And it was either that or the feature that I was on kind of landed us the Counterparts Tour. And that was like our first like. I think I think Brandon from Counterparts just heard us. Really?

And it was like, I want to bring them out. Because I remember I was doing a tour and both The Counterparts Tour. and your feature happened like at the same time. And I was like, what? Like, how did you get here? So I think, yeah, the counterpart's thing was like separate. And then like you did your part, Brian did his part on our song and everything just kind of snowballed really fast.

You're right. It was like instantaneous. Yeah. Wow. I think timing with our band is a very big factor. Kismet. Yeah. Like the timing of everything that's happened with us is just like, I don't know, just, like, can't write it.

Because all of that happened, we were unsigned, no management, like, we were completely DIY. But counterpart still was like, yeah, like, we'll take you on on the West Coast. And that was, like, our first kind of, like, real tour, like, where, like, an agent booked and, like, all that, you know? And then that's kind of where Tom. Yeah, and straight from the path was on that tour. And Tom met us and was like, why do you guys not have a manager? And was that the same tour that Brian did his part for him? No, that was a sanction tour.

Okay, never mind. Wow. Timing. Yeah, absolutely. It's so nuts. And the bands get so cut up on like, oh, we need to get signed before we do anything. And you guys just do shit. You guys went on tour before we even had to manage or sign or.

I wasn't expecting, I mean, I don't know if anybody was expecting anything to happen with this band. Not at all. No. Especially on this. It's just scale. Passion. Yeah. It was very dear.

Yeah. It's grinding. Literally. It sounds like you, like you've been working. Definitely. Constantly. Constantly.

Your band's working right now. As we speak. Yeah. Yeah. We got a sound check like an hour and a half. So sick. That's what it's all about that I'm talking about, dude.

Holy shit. Dude, for real, like, you guys, it bugs the fuck it out of me when bands get jaded and then they kind of stop that grind. Yeah. It just keeps going. I love it. That's the beginning of.

the end when that happens it is like things start sounding really bad oh yeah you know i know from experience the moment you uh you stop to get the momentum back and going it is hell to get that shit going so it's really cool to see see see your band and working and no matter what make instead of sitting at the venue and doing nothing you're you're here having a great conversation talk talking about the band telling telling your story you'll be surprised me the times you got to tell your story you got you kind of kind of retell because uh someone else is either gonna read an interview or watch it you kind of that's what I say the same thing over and over again sometimes but like it'll reach someone that hasn't you

know hasn't hurt it yet right you got it so it's cool yeah so sick should we should I do my shot no oh no cheers cheers thank you thank you for having us seriously absolutely I don't have a dick I already trickers oh Chris oh we got Eric cheers Kim and clutch hey Cheers. Again, going back to timing, because there's a lot of things that I know about your band. So obviously, like, you're all stoked. You're going on tour.

And I know that feeling. But when did, like, COVID happen for your band? Oh. It was right after we got our agent. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So we did the sanction tour.

Literally, like, a week after we got back or something like that. And then we got our agent. Wow. And then it was just like a month. Like we were talking about the tours that we were going to do this summer. I still think of all. I still think about ideas that he had for us. And we were like all getting really excited.

Like we're like, oh, it's all about to happen. Like we're like going to tour a lot. Like, you know, because it's about to happen. Oh wow. We were supposed to do, like, another tour of sanction and like misery signals like. Oh yeah. And we're like so stoked on that one. He was talking about like an a mirror tour in the fall.

Dude, we were like, we were. So, like, stuff in our future, we're like, this is going to be so sick. And then, yeah, and then we could do anything. And it was really interesting. But again, with timing, we went, we recorded the album, and then we put it out in October, and we could tour, like, in September. So it was just like, we went on tour and then we dropped the album, and then, like, we've been able to tour since. So it's like, we dropped the album at a time when we were able to play it live. Yeah, it was just, yeah.

So it's like, because, like, I mean, there. There's been bands that were dropping albums over the pandemic that people had to wait to see live. But for us, it's like we dropped the album and we're on the red. So it's just like it just worked out perfectly. Yeah, it's in a weird way you got some pretty terrible news, but also you were about to write a record. And so was it like, okay, we're doing all these tours and then we're write a record? Or was it like, okay, we don't have the tours anymore. Let's write a record.

It was kind of like that. Tom was just like, what do you want to do? Yeah, I think we were debating on even doing just like an EP. Yeah. Like, I don't, like, some of us were split on, like, wanted to do just, like, five songs and not really wanted to do, like, a full album, like, whatever. And so, like...

But we were all just kind of, like, let's just send it. Mm-hmm. Send it. We got the time. Yeah, we have the time. Yeah. It allowed us to, like, really spend the time and, like, tactfully have a rollout and everything for the record, too,

which was cool. That's important if to have a rollout. You kind of have to have that one, you know? Yeah, it was nice to, like, not rush it. And just kind of sit on it and kind of figure out what we wanted to do with it. Yeah. Yeah, that jump from your first record to the second one was a big jump. That's a special time.

It's like, oh, they were, they're on some shit right now. Cool. Those high gain tones. Whereas it's too much, but that's why it's why I like it. Exactly. Yeah. You play Mesa, huh? I do.

I knew that. Yeah. Mesa Duelrek. Two channel. Of course I knew that. Exactly. From 97. Yep. Yeah.

Who, just out of curiosity. Who is your favorite band? At the gates. At the gates? At the gates is my favorite band. Now I hear that. I pull a lot from them, yeah. At the gates.

I owe everything to that band. Do you have a number two? Number two is tough. That's a crazy question. Number two is really tough because like Cannibal Corpse. Like that's my guitar tone right there. It is. Maxon ST9 Pro Plus made it's a dulaeck.

Yep. Damn. That's what, it's Rob. It is, huh? It is. Wow. To a T. We watch a lot of Rick.

rundowns when we're not same we're not doing like how do they sound like that oh that's why I'm gonna go buy it every time I see that band it blows my mind cannibal yeah oh yeah it's just insane top notch they they get bands like me uh my band I'm for sure maybe similar to to your band

they give me hope I see George in his 50s and like yeah it's like whoa you're still doing that that shit is sick I have no excuse I better start hitting harder man and oh my gosh they definitely set the part them I think the top two bands are them and corn just set this bar

corn, yeah. That just, man, I gotta keep hipbing. Unreal, yeah. God, my fucking neck hurts who's fucked up. Exactly. I got so bummed when, like,

at the gates was playing Slaughter of the Soul front to back. You didn't see it. And our tours are just going. Oh, it's the worst, too. I fucking hate that, man. It's so bad.

Oh, it's bad. Emma, do you have a favorite band? It's hard to pick just one. Maybe like a top five? Top five, probably um, Haybreed. Damn it, too.

Deaf tones. It's hard. Top three, hate pre-depth tones, and hardcore-wise, probably a band called Foundation is, like, up there. Foundation? Never heard of them. Andrew's wearing the shirt right now. So good.

They're from Atlanta. They broke up, like, probably five or six years ago. Very straight-out. I think it's that a straight edge? Is X Foundation X or is it its found? No, it's just my idea. The lyrics are crazy.

You would read it and it's like a poem. You would not even imagine that it's, you know, it fits the music that they play, but it does. It's very poetic but really good. Damn. So,

she took one. I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going around. I was going around. I was going to say, hey, breed, but if I like think about it like

musically, musically, like what I want to write when I sit down and write, it goes 100 demons. Oh, nice. Or my favorite band of all time, the Ramones. Oh, yeah.

That's, that's the Johnny Ramon was the reason I picked up a guitar. Really? Yeah, 100%. Wow. Yeah. Let's say you're not familiar with the Ramones, which I'm talking about myself. What's like a record, what's the record that you should play? Either rock it to Russia

or Honestly, the song Pet Cemetery Is probably the track. You mean the movie? Well, it's the song for the movie. Cool. Jackass. Hey, Jackass.

Put her there. There we go. Show love. Andrew, you're next, man. In, like, the world of heavy music, like, I would probably... It's so... I mean, any music.

I mean, this is your time. I would say, like, my top two bands are, like, third-eye blind and jimite worlds. But I love... Third-eyed blind, that's a good one. Third-eye blind is an unbelievable band. And I watched, I saw them, like, right before, right before, like, this tour started, I got to see them. How was that? It was incredible.

It was amazing. It's awesome to your favorite band live. Yeah, yeah. That's sick as fuck. Yeah. Like one of, yeah. Sick as well. But in this world, I mean, like, hate breed, terror.

incendiary foundation like yeah I mean so it's basically it's third blind and hardcore those are

okay got it like I mean I like a lot of music got it I like a lot of music yeah I feel like

we all have a really like various taste as far as like the different things that we listen to I hear it well most poorly

I feel it yeah I have to say I'm not gonna do like one to one to I'm not gonna jerk

but kill switch and game I was waiting for someone to say it was like one of the very first bands that I actually like like like loved I don't know um yeah and then dying fetus yeah other one I like dying this tattoo oh shit yeah and then that's serious business um I don't know you can say it just say it come on we all know Tom our manager is gonna be pissed okay but just I was fucking love absolutely dying. Cool.

I knew it was fucking bad. Whatever. Got it. Don't have to get into it. And then as far as not a heavy band, John Mayer. John Mayer. Oh, John Mayer. Love John Mayor.

Oh, man. One of the best humans, human beings. I got to see John Mayer before we left for this fucking crazy amount of touring too, and it was one of the best nights in my life. Oh, that's right. It was sick? It was amazing. I wish it.

Was it John Mary? Was it John Mary with the Grateful Dead? It was just straight John Mayer. Oh, sick. I was like, because John Mayer announced a tour with Grateful Dead and I was like, we'll be home, but like, I don't fucking care about the Grateful Dead. Whoa, man. And then he. What the fuck, man?

I said, sorry. Two straight edge. And then he announced another tour, which was like off his, like, brand, he's like new album. And then they play Seattle twice. They don't play Portland. But me and my girlfriend drove up to a second date in Seattle and got to see it. And it was literally like, we got like, I got, like, I got. insanely good seats and like you gotta do it dude it was like perfect set list perfect set list

oh even it was like literally one the best like experiences in my life it's a big one when you see your favorite banner artist you got you got to pay money to get the tickets you want yeah it was even that expensive either like i was just i was chilling like it was sick that's great you know what without knowing that because i was curious because i was listening to your band this morning and i was like there's something that the hardcore element is so undeniable I was like, Hey, breed is like, that just has to be. Yeah. That is so in there.

Yeah. I have a Hayprey tattoo as well. Hey, Brie tattoo, Diapida's tattoo. Yeah, everyone. John Mary tattoo. I think everyone's like. I got a Van Halen tattoo. That's true.

Yeah. I think everyone can say Hey Breed is one of their favorite bands. Yeah. And that's our next North America tour. That's a big deal, huh? I mean, a band that's influenced you for for so long and has such a, you know, a big piece to your sound and by, It's crazy to have like to do a tour huh? Yeah, when we got when we got the text, we all of us resounding.

Collectively freaked out. Tom, our manager was like, it's going to be a lot. It's going to be a lot of touring, but and then said, yeah, he's like, there's a catch. There's a lot of touring. And we're like, fuck. Who cares? Who cares? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when the phone's ringing, you got to get to pick up, you know. That's kind of what it's been this year is like, I don't think. I don't think any of us really plan to be on the road as much as we have been, but we've just been getting offers that we couldn't say no to. Yeah, how are you, so yeah, I have been looking at the operas you've been getting and the tours

you've been doing. If I'm going to be transparent. I'm a little bit concerned. How have you been handling like the, you know, extensive and nonstop touring? It's a, it's a process we're still learning, I think. Yeah. We definitely do a lot of more check-ins. Like, quote-unquote, band meetings, but not really, just trying to see where is everyone's heads at.

Communicating is becoming a thing. It's definitely been like a blessing. We have to be very honest with one another. And if something's bothering us, we just got to say it because we're up each other's ass all the time. Still learning. Yes. It's like a blessing and a curse because, like, it's sick because we're getting all these sick tours. But at the same time, like, being home for like, because we're going to be, after

this tour we're going to be home for like two weeks and then gone for one week one week and then we're gone until until mid-december yeah definitely grueling and not comfortable but well yeah i mean we definitely are physically we just built bunks Andrew had this whole blueprint for bunks that we built in our van so that's more comfortable we literally wake up in a planet fitness parking lot every day so we all exercise which I think is really essential to your physical and mental well-being. Shower. Shower. Yeah, shower.

Before you're smelling well-being. And put a well-being of the sanity of the people around you. I also think it's just like a small price to pay for like a better payoff in the future. Like we're going to be touring this much, but it's for a greater good. Just the investment right now. It's just the hustle, yeah. As Tom says, it's this year. is all about discovery.

So we're playing to crowds like Code Orange, Limp Biscuit, Devil Wars Prada, hate breed, hate breed, Lionheart and Terror in Europe. Like, it's wild. The various amount of things that this band is able to do, and it's really cool that we have all these different crowds that we can fit into.

All under four years. Yeah. That's wild. Right. You're stoked, huh? I'm so sad. This is everything I've been wanting to do. Right.

It's so weird like, oh, I want to like do that. I want to like play guitar or drums or be a singer or something or like, you know, and then you start doing it. It's crazy. I said this before. Like, I don't know anything else. Like I don't. Same.

I don't know how to do anything else. I don't have anything to fall back on. This is it for me. I was going to say quite literally, none of us have a backup plan. Like we're all 100% in on this. Yeah. That's what separates you from the rest because I heard your record and like it has, that's the only way you get sound that way.

It's the only way you can't have a plan B. He was like, all right, this is, I mean, this is our only option to play this music and do this. And that's, and that's why the music sounds that way and feels that way. Good. So, oh, shit, this is serious. My goodness. And add, like, a new element to, let's say, hardcore or metalcore. It's like, oh, it's a hard thing to do.

You know, a lot of, a lot of bands can't exactly put their own twist to it. So when I come across a band that puts her on twist to it and puts it makes it their band and their sound as oh You know they did it cool Hell yeah, I'm badass thank you yeah, thank you yeah, it's fucking heavy Too much game, but that's that that's okay That's right That's what you need that too much game But do you find it like I like to push the game a lot but like to the point where it almost sounds like shit? I'm all the way up

I'm all the way up I'm very modest but he's like all the way I'm done Dimed out. Yeah. Yeah. Dimed out. I'm dimed out. Okay.

You got the fucking Mesa, you got the fucking pedal. Yeah. That's sick. Yeah. Swollen pickle. I'm not using it so much, but yeah. What you called me? What's swollen pickle?

Okay. Okay. Moving on. What's, uh, it's very rare to, uh, to hear people and talk about their communication. You're already out of the. case you're all you're all to communicating. Isn't that so crazy? It took a year.

It took a little bit, but you know. It took me 20, so if your wall, your wall, you're great. Andrew has this thing called pie. I forgot what it is, to be honest, but. Yeah, we haven't been doing it too much. No, but it's still, still there. The pie check-in is your physical, intellectual, and emotional health. So it's like you kind of talk about how you're feeling, like, physically, what's going on in your head, and how you're, like, feeling emotionally.

And sometimes we'll just kind of like go in a circle be like how is everyone feeling? Not even just like bandwise just like outside too. Yeah, exactly. And you know, and then it's just like also like, you know, is there any like tension? If so, how can we resolve it? Like what's going on? How can everyone feel like there? I think that was like one of the main things we started doing now is like we're not letting stuff like

to or like fester. Like we're like like calling it out like as it happens. As it happens. You do that? Try it. I think for us to keep going, that's how we have to do. that's how we have to do. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like we're kind of all a little stubborn. We're all stewards. Yeah. But and we also, I don't know, like, I'm the type of person to like, you know, just keep everything inside and then later on down the line it all implode and like freak out, you know. Yeah.

So it's better I don't do that to the band. It's better to let it out immediately, even though like it might be like harsh at the time, it'll be less harsh than it would be if it like built up, you know. So it's like, we're just, doing what we can to prevent any kind of like big fights. But I think it's good. Like luckily we all like each other to like a degree where like we can do this much touring and like it's not it's not really an issue.

Yeah. Being like around each other so much. Who brought that idea up? Well. Or just kind of came up like naturally or like. We kind of all we had a discussion and we were like yeah, we need to check in with each other more and we need to we need to be better about communicating so we don't get put in positions where you know there's a lot of intense feeling and stuff so I think it was kind of all

like a group discussion that we all decided on yeah that's advanced I mean it's it's it should be yeah yeah you have like you know you have jaded bands like like us and just figure it out you got oh you got to communicate you got to talk to each other I'm like oh you got to you gotta work out your feelings unless you'll implode that that doubt you're you're me i'll be like i'll be like i'll be like i'll be like i'll be like i'll be like a while then only just fucking explode the thing is though i feel like i feel like all of us can kind of tell when something when someone's in a bad mood or like if something's sick so we'll so like now rather than just like letting it happen we're kind of like hey like vibes off what's going on yes

yeah vibe is off um so it feels like therapy in a way It's really healthy. It is. Yeah. It is, especially to stay together. You know, it's so crucial. You know, what's your, I know, I know that's very, in the past few months how, like, the, I'm not calling you guys,

Metacore, but, like, that I've noticed, like, I've been seeing bands, I'm watching bands live and, and listening to their records, and I'll go to the Wikipedia page or their bio and, like, says, Metacore from Australia, or a MediCorps is. I'm like, that's mental core. core but I guess someone told me like oh like the umbrella of the genre is like way bigger than than you think it as guards I'm like oh shit like I mean what would you consider uh dying wish like a part of that under that umbrella I have no clue anymore I mean I mean

in my opinion I still think we're a hardcore band because we did started as a hardcore band we did stuff DIY we did it all of ourselves um just so I happened that we landed some pretty intense opportunities and you know now we're being you know slotted with other bands that don't necessarily sound like us which is like cool because like you know play every show you'll get

out there get as many people to listen to your band as possible but I think for me hardcore is more about ethics than it is about what you actually sound like so yes we did it the hardcore way and I still think I 100% agree with that it's like we're under the umbrella of hardcore

but we're like kind of this like metalcore influenced branch of hardcore. Yeah. I guess you could say like, yeah, like what you can say about knock loose. Like knock loose is a hardcore band. They don't necessarily sound like like madball, but they sound like a metalcore influenced hardcore band. Yeah, hardcore is the same, it's kind of the same size umbrella as like metalcore metal, you know,

just generally I think metal and hardcore, you know, hardcore kind of falls under the metal umbrella. True. I just say metal. Yeah. If I'm explaining to my mom, I'll say we're just saying. We're a metal band. I just tell you that we sound like corn. It's simply mom, it's really heavy stuff.

It sounds like corn, but just heavier. My mom says, I wish you'd sing more. I can't understand what you're saying. Yeah. My mom calls it Screamo. That's awesome. To this day. Shout out of Della.

That was the old way of explaining it. Yeah. It's such that they just took that genre name And then we all got fucking stuck with it Every band that has screaming in it If you don't know the genre you thought Oh that they're like screamo Literally that they have six bands

In that genre yeah we all got stuck with that fucking title Holy shit Yeah I feel like that's my space ball too Yeah Dude we were talking about my space a lot I'm in dude Bring it back I remember I remember it

my page and everything. Yeah. Peter Screamo. What was your nice? Oh, that was literally Peter Screamo. No way. Well, no. It was with a K, so it was different.

So cool. Okay. What was your Minespace song? Yeah, it was a space song. Damn, I have to think about that. I changed my, like, every three days. Yeah. I was hyped when it was a playlist where you could like pick.

Oh, yeah. That was like the later era. Mine was waking the cadaver for a while. Oh, so. Oh, so. That was a song. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. like Andrew that changed her song every three days. I'm like, those people are psychos. Dude, I like, I like had like a career on MySpace. Really? I like that. So I'm a graphic designer. That's like how I got into graphic design.

Oh shit. Really? Was through my space. I was making layouts for bands and shit. Like I like, I like taught myself like I had like this fake version of Photoshop and I taught myself coding by like by using those websites that were like, oh, like copy paste this into like your into this section. And then like I just like.

figured out how to like make like good looking like artists my space pages and I started making some for some people that are actually like doing really well now not because of me but like just like randomly but yeah so like I was doing that and then my space kind of died out and I was just like I guess I guess I'll keep doing design. And your design is that's massive yeah that's a very important skill especially just someone that knows how to do, like, you know, make websites and do this. It's a very important skill. Yeah, I did the website, too.

Interesting. It's literally all because of MySpace, though. Like, if it wasn't for MySpace, like, I don't know what my life would look like. Like, like, literally, would I be into this music? Would I be into, like, the kind of art that I am? Like, I don't know who I would be if it wasn't for MySpace. So I was on it a lot. So that's probably why I changed my song so much as I was just, like, on it.

Just listening to different music. Whoa. It sounds like we came up in a very similar era. Because, I mean, yeah, Myspace for me, and was like, that was it. Yeah. It went from Friendster to Myspace quick. I skipped the Friendster.

Same. I was never on Friendsster, yeah. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I skipped it. Only because a cute girl says, you, you should be on Friendsster to Myspace. Okay. That's the only reason.

That's why we do anything. It was a game. It was AIM and then Myspace. Holy crap. What was that other vampires website? Do you guys remember that? I was never on that. Vampire Freaks?

Vampire Freaks. What? I tried it out for me. I wasn't on that, but I just know the name for some reason. Sam's not saying anything. I'm on. I don't know what they're talking about. I said anything.

Oh, my goodness. Holy shit. Well, what do you think about the current state of parkour then? Like, you know, band's coming up. I think it's thriving. It's more popular than it has ever been. Yeah. Yeah.

The internet. Thanks to the internet, huh? As bad as the internet can be, it's made it very accessible. And it has 10 years ago, it was not like that. You found out about going to shows because someone invited you to an event on Facebook. And now it's like you know everything about bands these days. There's a new social status of hardcore now. It's very strange.

Like Shaquille O'Neal posted like a video of, like a really popular hardcore band Pain of Truth a week ago he posted just a random video and there's just a video of this hardcore band

on Shaquille O'Neal's like Instagram story just like for no reason because he found it like yeah that's a trip huh yeah like that would never happen

10 years ago yeah you had to see like the the kind of bands that are playing the kind of rooms it's pretty like whoa that is nuts to see

it took a long time to a get there, you know? It seems like, it seems like multiple genres of any form of heavy is like getting at their own kind of wave, you know, us as death core, you know, we're getting our own wave of hardcore. It's all kind of coming up. I'm curious where it's going. I think that that was my next question for, for you. Like, where, what do you see like the hardcore scene going? It's very thought-provoking question. Can I ask, maybe, I don't know if this relates, but how did you, how did you guys discover

Taylor Young and have him like record or master your that new song you just got you guys just put out like that I think it's a really crazy crossover yeah see like suicide silence shows this like prominent hardcore like recording like artists whatever you want to call him. I've never seen that happen so like I feel like I don't know how that relates to it but I just answered your question with a question. Mining mind games timing was actually uh we we were talking to Taylor like before this whole kind of boom thing happened with like the hardcore scene so it's kind of again weird timing and it kind of seems like but yeah we were talking to him about possibly doing a record and we kind of tested out the waters he mark and our guitar player Mark and Eddie are a singer really were massive fans of Taylor Young and we're actually I've I've heard his d'nbee thrown around by them two for actually years now and it's just the time it never

lined up but we'd never I don't know we were we had our heads up our asses but then we signed to Central Media and Mike Gitter, which is like a legendary A&R around here. Here in California, he used to work for a roadrunner. He goes to all the shows around here. Like if it's at a big show, like he's not going to be the butt. You'll go to a bar of any hardcore band, you know he will be there. And so once he said it, once I met Taylor, I realized a deep connection between Suez Hassans and Taylor Young. Because he used to play in a band called Crematorium.

And they would play my hometown when I was a little kid. And he's seen Susan Sons like maybe even pretty Mitch. So he's known about the band. We played with each, like played our bands played with each other. Like back in the day, you've seen shows. And I never realized. So he knows like the SoCal hardcore sound better than anybody. I didn't know that.

I think he invented it in a way. I was going to say, I mean, honestly, because I can tell what band like recorded with. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Taylor Young like it's very distinct very yeah he has that sound and to be honest like one of the first things I drew me to him was his guitar dome I mean because I've been trying to get a certain tone since our first record uh the the cleansing that came out 15 years ago and every record we try I'm like I fucking hate the guitar zone I hate it but then I kind of got it why well now we're with the

soCal dude and he just knew that sound and he finally got what I had in my body out like like the old producers from our demo days to our first record finally did and that's uh once i heard that once i heard the first single which is blinking in tongues i was like yeah we're we're doing a record yeah totally hell yeah yeah because i listened to that song because i kind of listen to that song because it was like

record or produced or whatever really and i was like really confused like seeing these two names to each other yeah so i listen to it was fucking sick when worlds collide when worlds collide you'll be surprised how many producers don't get the vision out. It's so like dude I've seen to be getting fucked

for like most of my career and finally to have someone actually listen and not have it. Taylor Young does not have an ego. He does have an ego. He knows who the fuck he is and that's actually in this industry extremely rare. And that really drew me to him and

he has a way of saying things. I'm trying to be like Taylor. Like he could say things within like two words and I have to say a fucking rant to say one thing. But like my hat he's so precise with with his words and he's a very he's a fascinating guy you know and i i i see more bands going with him uh after this this year yeah yeah yeah great guy yeah you uh you uh you know you know how to record with someone like knows how to get that that sound out you know yeah the guy i mean

randy yeah yeah that's i feel him and randy are like me and randy works so well together yeah yeah yeah i think we just lucked out i don't like first shot It's kind of lucky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just luck. We're 100% from the free throw line.

Yeah. Yeah. Producers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's tough. It's one shot. Yeah.

Yeah. So that was your second record, correct? It was our first full length. The first full length. Was there like a... We did a split before that. We did a split. Yeah.

That's what it was. A split. Yeah. A demo. A demo. Yeah. Band called serration. That's what it was.

I was in a gym kind of looking. I'm like, what the fuck is this? Okay. I saw like two two titles. I'm like, the two titles, I was like, why, why's the two titles? You should listen to, listen to narration, though, too. That's sick?

A really good thing. Like our best friends. Cool. These plans a lot. Best snare tone. Colter. It's really good snare tone. Really good snare tone.

Shout out Colter, for sure. Yeah, how is that, how is that process like? I know you guys could get back. How do you, what's your writing process like? Especially for this last record? The last record, I had, probably half of it, like skeletons of songs that I just kind of write at home. And then I'll write with Randy when we go to the studio for like a week, just bang out songs.

And then we'll just kind of everyone will kind of surround and just be like, what if we did this? What if we did that? And then we just kind of send it. I don't know. It is really cool because like when they write, I noticed that Randy, he kind of like will write parts and is like, you need a big vocal moment here. And so him and I work well in that way too where he's like, this is the part where you do the ah.

And I'm like, yeah. So it's cool. So it sounds like you get like the skeleton with Randy and then are you, when it's presented to, so that's presented to the whole band, correct? And then is that, are you in a same room together? Or we'll be there as it's happening. Yeah, like when we would do, when we did the,

are like full length like we had enemies which we already like written like full and eight already done and then we had like five others that were like mostly ready yeah that we didn't and then we like worked on those songs first and got them like into like their final state and then and then Randy was just kind of like what if we had a song that started like this what if we had a song to start like that that way it flows like this yeah and like what if we had one of this key like he kind of had these ideas he's like you guys haven't done this before like I think you could do this. Randy does that super well.

He's just like, you don't have a song in this key because I write a lot of the same shit. Yeah, and I know what you mean. He's just like, what if you started here? He was just like, okay, I'll work on it. And then like, yeah, we'll just send videos back and forth. Like, is this the riff? He's like, no, it's not quite it.

And then we'll like freak out. We'll be like, this is the riff. Yeah, sick. Do you find that you'll try like what he says and then it doesn't feel right at first? Exactly. But then you, I think, like, oh, wait, that's way better than I thought. I'll, like, sleep on it, and then I'll wake up.

It's crazy, huh? I'm not feeling it today. And then the next day, I'm like, this rocks. That's, I don't know, I don't know what that is. I don't know either. I kind of call it the, like, unknown where, like, we'll play something. I'm like, I don't know where it's going. I don't really like it.

Exactly. Give it a time. The song's done. It's going to have done. Give it a week. I'm like, I love this now. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what that is.

I don't know either. I mean, some of the songs. needed vocals on it. And then that's what made me fall in love with it. Okay. Because a lot of the moments do happen vocally. So I think, you know, without that. Like it doesn't click until you hear

there's certain vocal. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, definitely. It sounds like you... So you definitely get in a room when it's all like... Yeah. Do you hash it out live? Like you're in a room like,

this is playing out at all. I don't think we haven't done that since. We haven't done that since we wrote enemies, I don't think. Really? especially right now just because we're always gone sick yeah but yeah I just I'm on my computer all the time yeah yeah yeah I'm on my computer all the time yeah yeah yeah same you're

we're just weird just you know it's all we can do riffing yeah so I mean the more there's no shortcuts yeah there's none you know the more the more time you put it into it the more that that really proves if you love it or not yeah you know if you feel if you want to put in at that time you know it says I you still want to do it and it's what is it's because it's because you love it you know and that's that's that also it's good that's an unplanned um listening when I hear the music when I hear your band I do hear a band it's like there is a focus on longevity you know I hear a band like you guys you want to be around for a while definitely yeah also

explains a note there's no other option yeah I was gonna say there's no plan B so yeah there's no other option it's scary huh I like it yeah it's like a roller coaster and you keep going up and up and up and it's like that anxiety that builds up I like that feeling same I like I like I like anxiety and like feeling nervous because those are really exciting it's like it's like it's like playing a show yep yeah yeah you know yeah yeah no before I met I met all you like I was nervous but it's that like I'm about to play show you know am I sit coming sit down a sick conversation and it's done you're be like yeah I suck oh my god we're fucking sick honestly I think I have more pre-interview and like podcast

anxiety than like pre-show anxiety really yeah why do you think that is because I do the I say the same words every usually it's only her it's true I do them alone a lot it's so much more fun with them around and easier rare ones which are I think this is a very rare happening like second time this is the second time That's what's fun. It's fun. Mm-hmm.

Well, then the first full band interview was actually in Pomona. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that one. What's up? Yeah. I was like, I hope they, I know, that's why I really appreciate all you being here because I know how hard it is.

I felt kind of, I apologize in the band. I put you under some pressure getting the whole band together. Don't apologize. It's okay. It's me. Yeah. I know hard, because sometimes like, I feel bad, like, someone like, I don't know. know, they want, like, talk to the whole band at once.

I'm like, that is so hard. I can't do that right now. Yeah. This guy's having lunch somewhere. This guy's... Peter wants to work out. Yeah. Yeah.

I was about to go to the gym, and I was like, oh, podcast time? All right, let's do it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I was so still because it kept building. It was like, first of, like, you know, Tom told me, oh, be, maybe.

And then, like, Emma and Sam and then, like, it's kept building. Maybe maybe a few more. And then you're on away, and, like, the whole band's going. I'm like, so sick. Love it. I'm glad I was semi prepared besides a trash can. That's kind of our fault, though. I should have brought a throne.

Sick. Well, what are the plans after this record? Tour. It's tour. Tour, right? A lot of writing. Just enjoying the process. Yeah?

It looks like you're enjoying it. It's cool. I hear it in tone, dude. That's something good. I hear that mace. I'm like, fuck that guy. Exactly. Yeah, it's great, man.

Are you thinking, it might be speaking to you soon, but which I want to share a quick experience. But are you thinking about, are you already thinking about who you're going to go with on the next record? Randy. Randy. I don't think there's any other out of town.

He brings a lot out of us. Yeah. It's very important. Yeah. He makes me a better guitar player. He makes Jeff a better drummer. He makes Emma a better vocalist. He gets it.

He gets it. I don't know. Yeah. And a great friend. Yeah, he's a great friend, too. Like, he's awesome to be around. He's great to work with. He's just awesome. Where is he based out of?

New Jersey. Jersey. Oh, yeah. So you guys already go east coast. Fly? Fly or drive? We flew last time. Yeah, we're driving next time.

Yeah, we're driving next time. Yeah. Yeah. If you're flying. He has. He's got a dual wreck, too. He's got a Wagner, Uberschall, and, like. Like he's got everything.

I'm horned up dude. Exactly. So, my, just thinking about it, I'm horned up. That's sick. Yeah. You know what? That's fair too. You know, Bannon knows, oh, we know we're doing our record with this person.

Yeah. It's just like the first record was great. Let's do it again. Yeah. Oh my God, we're better. Even the stuff that we are sitting on. Oh my God. It's big.

Game over. We already did a week of pre-pro with them before the stores. We recorded like a full actual song. awesome. And it's one of the best songs. It's like my favorite thing

I've ever written. It's so sick. And it came from a thing where Randy was like, you don't have a song in this key. Oh, did it? Yeah. And he like sent me a video.

He's like, what if you did something like this? And then like, I just kind of took the key and went a different direction and I was just like, let's do it. Wow.

That's so sick. Yeah. Well, you're making the right moves. You know, one of the biggest mistakes I made in my career was I'm not doing our second record with the first producer

I just wished you're like fuck we're had our heads up our asses which we just went back with that guy that sounds perfect but it's cool that you guys have you all have the vision and I think like when we were doing the when we were going in to do the first record Tom was just like who do you want to produce

and I think the only name we had was Adam D and Tom was just like that might be a little out of your price rate right now but let me put you on to Randy yeah yeah Tom Tommy of Randy playing a band together. Okay. And he's always vouched for Randy and Randy does good work. You know, we, uh, sick.

Uh, he did like, you know, like Kublai Khan, who we've like recently toured with and our friends with. And he does like, uh, he did like the new chamber album. He had like, Casey Strain. KChi Train. He does like a lot of the Casey Strzarin. Yeah, he, he had credentials and left behind them pretty sure. And really good mixes.

And so we're like, yeah, let's do it. And Tom just vouched for him and was like, he's also just like an amazing songwriter and musician. So we're like, yeah. I think it feels right. And then we did the album and it was like kismet. Yeah. And yeah, it's kind of just been like, yeah, he's our guy.

Yeah. Every time them two, like, write stuff together, I'm like, okay, gonna be a better guitar player today. Oh, yeah. Everyone, dude. Everyone, like, I suck. I suck. There's like, I can't play that.

Like, I can't do that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll learn it. Yeah. Now you learn it and then you go on tour with then. Then you come back a little, a little bit. It's just endless cycle. Exactly.

You know, and then you keep realizing how much you suck and you keep trying and practicing. It's just striving to be better every day. Yeah. And great news, it never ends. It's awesome. It's a feeling I didn't expect, like, I didn't expect to be inspired my whole career, but he's kept, for some of you keep going. And you're inspired. Honestly, like, it's crazy how much we've done and how much we've learned and how much better we all are since we were in the studio for our first record.

And like I think all of us like that experience was a little scary to like write your first record and like perform your first record But now like there's just this new level of confidence Under our belt and we all know exactly what kind of musician we want to be we have a better idea of the kind of direction that we're going in as a band and like It's not that the first record was rushed. It wasn't but like now we're like second record is gonna be like it's gonna be a prime example of who we are about stop. What'd you say? Meticulous. You're using big words.

It really is. I take that disrespect. Well, shit, let's wrap this up. This is your next tour. Yes. You're talking with hatred. 20 years. Perseverance, too.

Yeah. A call for blood is my favorite hate creeper. Oh, Gate creeper, too. Oh, yeah. The creepers. I've heard body snatchers wonderful people also. Yeah. I hear they're awesome.

Yeah. So this episode would drop probably right when the tour ends with Prada. So then we'll just promote these shows. Sweet. And you're literally going to be back here on the... Literally on cameras in the 19th. We're also announcing more shows. Are you really?

During this tour. Oh, really? On Monday. That's on Monday? I believe. Oh, wow. There's more dates. I just realized we're playing House Blues again.

Yeah, you will be at the same venue. Let's do it to the podcast. I was going to say. Part two. Part two. Let's hang out. Let's get lunch. I'll take a shot with you next.

Let's do shots and just ruin it. Yes. So this tour of Hayprey starts on October 27th. It actually starts on the 25th. Oh, 25th. Okay, so you guys see all the type of shows that I'm a scene. So it starts the 25th and can you say when it ends? That's the end.

Is the house of hers in San Diego? San Diego and the 20th. San Diego, Anaheim, San Francisco, Seattle, home show, Roseland. I always want to play the Roseland. Oh my God. The fucking list. Insane. So this is, wait, so this is your band's first time

playing that theater. That's a big deal. And the last time I saw Hay Breed was at the Rose Theater. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Awesome show. They did another anniversary tour that played there.

Yeah. Most of us were all there and it was like, yep. That's a bucket list thing. It's huge. It's like, it's like the biggest, not, not the biggest room, but it is. It's the biggest, like, it is. It's a biggest, it is.

It's a big. Club room. Biggest next to like the basketball arenas. That is sick. Albuquerque, Lubbock, Houston, Oklahoma City, Pops, Cleveland, Ohio, obviously, Virginia Beach, Virginia, and there's more dates coming. Proud of you guys.

Thank you. Thank you. And just close off, where can people find you? Dyingwich H.C. H.C. H.C. H.C. H.C. H.C. H.C. Hardcore. Dyinguish H. H. H.A. on, I don't know, Twitter and Instagram. Yep

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