Garza Podcast - 53: LEFT TO SUFFER

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

Left to Suffer is an metalcore/nu-core band from Atlanta, Georgia. We talk about doing mushrooms on stage, their early eays of jamming in a storage unit & much more! SPONSORS: distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! emgpickups.com Promo Code: Heavy 15% OFF! Left to Suffer is: Taylor Barber, Peter Higgs, Jacob Gordon, Christian Nowatzki & Alex Vavra TIME CODES: 00:00 - Intro 00:54 - Recording Snake & Three Days Grace Connection 08:46 - Touring W Carnifex, Spite & Drinking At 3pm 10:45 - Writing Together 15:50 - Tone Is In Your Hands 18:08 - Influenced By Disturbed & St. Anger 23:02 - Not Being Into Metallica, Thrash & Stranger Things 26:21 - Korn Woodstock 99 & Time Travel 34:01 - Opening For Wage War & Emmure 42:12 - Writing Process In The Woods 48:06 - Going Viral On TikTok 52:36 - Being From Atlanta, Sevendust & Nu-Metal Tattoos 58:03 - Meeting Other Members After Jail 01:03:46 - Taking Mushrooms On Stage 01:08:30 - Garza Is On Ayahuasca 01:12:22 - What Happens When You Die, What Is Hell?  01:14:18 - Taylor Was Homeless - “LTS Saved Me Life” 01:20:00 - Future of LTS

You know, when you're watching I would look to see it in person There you go You guys heard it You love to see it in person On tour with those people Yeah Man, they're fucking playing like shit right now

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We just suck, dude. We're fucking rock stars now, dude. We let it get to our heads. Now it's just different, dude. In three months, you fucking changed Taylor? I'm saying, dude. I got another neck tattoo, and then it just was over after that, dude. I was just like, ah, now my shit doesn't stink, dude.

We're good. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Well, today we have the first time the whole band left the supper. Thank you guys for being here. I'm stoked. Hell yeah, we're stoked to be here, bro. I appreciate you having us, man.

I love looking at your face, dude. I'm excited to be back here. I look at your guys' faces. Handsome man, dude. Thank you. It's a room full of handsome gents We got some handsome dudes in there Yeah

Freshly shower too Even the guy over here Behind the camera Handsom is hell dude Zach the kid Zach attack He's behind the camera He should be in front of the camera

Dude get this guy in here Yeah Zach's always in like the solo episodes Yeah Yeah Because Zach is You always want to surround yourself

With people that are smart in you Right Always And he's way smart at me So So like I don't think I've ever told him but I want him in a pod so I don't got to talk that much

because I know he's gonna say he's gonna way smart to me and we can keep the conversation you just kind of like roll off it Zach attack, thank you I appreciate you Zach attack Zach attack

Oh my goodness Oh my god This is unberpression already Yeah dude It's off the chains I'm drinking purple monsters This is how it goes every time We're in the room

Oh my goodness Can we do a quick intro Yeah Go around Yo, what's up? I'm Taylor. I'm the fucking vocalist. I'll have to suffer. I'm Peter. I play guitar. I'm Alex. I play drums. I'm Spinch. I play guitar. I'm Christian. I slap the bass.

Oh, my... You slap it? Fildy style? Yeah, like one percent of time. He throws it in there for the fieldy style. Yeah, sometimes I just get so into the set. We're putting a breakdown. I'm just like, nah, fuck the pick. I just start beating it. Do you use a pick, or mostly fingers? I always do quicker.

Okay, cool. But I like 90% of the time. We have a couple of solace where it's like to do a little bit of finger stuff. Nice. If you just want to smoke that, I'm not going to smoke that. Oh, man. We will. Since you have it.

I picked it up and I was like, this looks. Twisting our arm. Nice. I just smoke it if you want, I guess. I like dad wheat with tobacco and people like hammy shit is just like it's fucking dipped in this fucking caramel. It looks scary. Let's find out.

It's good a looksy. It's huge. I smoked that last time and I was way too high. I'm not going to touch that shit again. It looks beautiful. Yeah. That's a fucking masterpiece, dude. I'm impressed.

Cool. Well, congrats on your new song, Snake. Thank you so much. She's fucking sick. It's definitely a different direction kind of for a minute. But I appreciate the kind words. It wasn't like weird for us to do it, but it was definitely like a different thing that we did for sure.

Right. And I think there's almost like a little bit of almost hesitation and worry that it being not quite as heavy as other things that we've done, that it being received well. But that has been a pretty good reception to it in general. Yeah, we also had an awesome team working on that song with us because we worked on it with the drummer from Three Days Grace, Neil Sanderson and Howard Benson, which is like crazy, you know. But yeah, so, I mean, you can't really be too, too nervous when you have two people who are just heavy hitters like that. that on your side. Those are heavy hitters. You're not familiar with Howard Benson.

He's produced like POD and Flames, Sepa TORLA, My Chemical Romance. So I like that. That's a very wide range. You know, like, I mean, he like doesn't just do metal or doesn't do this. And like, those are kind of people you want to be like, be around. Because then they'll teach you something to record heavy music that you wouldn't have tried. Right. You know.

Exactly. You have those people that are like kind of put. you out of your, push you out of your comfort zone because we're so, you know, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

you know what I mean? Do it all the, like, extra stuff. We use the heavy, heavy. And then we have those, you know, other people who come in and they add the, like, you know, cool chorus structures and different ideas to kind of,

like, make the song flow in a different way, which I think is super healthy to not have, like, it be too convoluted within the band and, like, having, like, other people touch it, you know, to, like, give it some new, new life.

Yeah. How did it? So the drummer of Three Days Grace, Neil, he finding guys first, right? Yeah, he actually DM'd me on Instagram and I remember I was getting out of the shower and I like, I messaged the band. I was like, I don't know if you guys remember this

but I was like spazzing out and I was like, yo dude like no, I think Three Days Grace followed me first like the actual page. And I was just like, yo, what the fuck? Like this like I thought it was fake. And so like I said this as a band. I sent it to the band and I was like, I was like, why the hell did Three Days Grace follow me?

And then like, not even like a couple minutes after that. I'm like standing there like naked getting into the shower. Like on my phone in my bathroom. And then I get like a message from Three Days Grace. It's like, yo, dude, your band's sick. Dada, da, da, da, da, all this other stuff. And I'm like, yo, what the fuck? You like, we've listened to Three Days Grace since we were kids.

You know what I mean? So it's just like what the hell's going on? And then that transposed into Neil handing me up through his personal account or whatever. And then it was just like a full circle. Kind of thing after that and he just like you know Expressed how much he liked us and how much he wanted to work with us and then we work something out now we have Three Cool songs with the drummer from

Three Days Grace co-writing our choruses with us which is fucking sick Damn dude just from a message Like out of nowhere He found us through Spotify through one song and it was actually Yeah and that's what I thought was funny is we had put out on death and we were figuring it'd be one of those songs that were popping off and It was one of our songs that has decent streams but definitely isn't in our top five, you know? And he just found that one.

One of our heavier ones, too, for sure. Was it like, on, like, a playlist or something? I don't think he ever specified. I think that he said that he just found it. Like, I think he was just, like, doing one of those things where you just kind of play something on Spotify that pop up. But, yeah, I don't ever know.

Like, exactly how he, or where on Spotify he found us, I'm pretty sure it was just completely random. And he was like, you know, this band Rips. That's it, random. Hit us up. I'm sorry. I'm honestly afraid to smoke out again. Because I try that and like, it was during the podcast. I'm like, I'm not doing it again.

Because I get too high, I lose focus. I feel you. I lose focus completely. I do too sometimes. I can't do it. I tried. My words just stop eloqueting at all. Like, they don't matter.

They just like starting to be making up words going sideways. Like I get dyslexic out of nowhere. That was a fancy word though, man. Eloquette? Yeah. Eloquited? Eloquette? You still got it, bro.

You still out of here. What's that mean? sometimes. I don't even know what that word. Like, well-spoken. Like, words are put well together. That's eloquent. I can't do that.

Yeah. Honestly, didn't know that that was like a, that was like a tense of that word. I made it up. I don't even know if it's real. I was about to say, I was like,

I don't think that that's how that works, but we're gonna, we're gonna roll it. Because I was like, that word sounded nice. It is now. It was like, honey. Hey,

if you fake it till you make it, you make it. You make it. You make it. You know, you can pick it up. I'm gonna grab another one of these. I suck.

You. Would you finish that one? Yeah. Are you serious? Dude, I'm a piece of shit. What are you doing? I'm a piece of shit. No, no. You're a gifted young man, Taylor.

I'm just dead ass so tired from just being on the road and stuff. I'm just like trying to stay away. Yeah, how's you're being for you guys? It's been incredible. We've just been doing too much. Yeah. We've been, we've been, we got gifted two ounces of shrooms. They're gone.

Okay. We've been drinking a little more than usual, you know what I mean? But we've still been crushing it on stage and having fun. So, like, we've just kind of like, you know, this tour package has just been so, like, exciting and fun for everybody. Like, we're all just, like, intermingling and hanging out, and all the bands are just, like, really close. And so it just kind of, like, at the end of every night turns into a party. Yeah. And then so it just kind of, you know, six weeks deep, you get kind of tired.

Sometimes when the party will start loading to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes, like, we're out there, like, doing. shots at like 3 p.m. You know what I mean? Like sometimes 1 p.m. You know what I've developed the habit of drinking a twisted tea like almost every day at like 5.3 o'clock.

You know you gotta get it in. There's a deadline for it. There is a deadline. But like, you know, I do my work and I'm like, I'm like, I feel great, you know. I'll start drink until after the show personally. If I was head banged and after I was drinking. You do other things, though.

Oh, I do. There's other substances that get done before the stuff. We're good. Other things? Yeah, you know, smoking weed, you know, doing stuff like that. Are you guys smoking dope? Yeah, dude. Yeah, we're speedballing.

We're straight up smoking to know. Actually, it's dope not weed? No, dope is weed, I guess, considerably. Yeah. But I also heard dope be considered as crack. Yeah, that's like that's like that's like, that's 100% what they call it in Atlanta. Yeah. Because like I live, I live, yeah.

We live like in. Atlanta and there's a couple like homeless people that like roam the streets outside and they literally call crack dope Oh no. Yeah. So that's like there's like it's like definitely a double like entangra thing for that. Yeah. Because we're here in California dope means weed but you guys fucking so what you guys are from Atlanta or maybe like like around. Yeah. Yeah. I live like in the perimeter now. Yeah like five miles south of downtown. Yeah. He lives like way out. I live in the sticks in the woods. Like. Like we live like in the sticks. Yeah. I live in the woods. Like. Like we live like in the. Like it's 20 minutes before you get to the first gas station. Really? Yeah. Gunshots going off all the time just because we're living in the woods and you can. How far are you from these guys?

About two, no, about two with traffic. Oh, those ain't an hour and a half, but yeah, that makes sense. Wow. Yeah, Mark lives kind of out there, but that's only like an hour. Damn, I miss Mark, dude. I just moved out here more recently. I mean, it was at the beginning of last year, I guess, and we actually filmed the music video for overwhelming power

at my house the day before I moved in, and we were there filming for like six hours, and finally at like 2 a.m. It was cold. I remember how cold. It was so cold. Yeah, we did it like the middle of January, like at night. Yeah. That part was a little rough, but we had a lot of fire.

Yeah, there was no. There was fire going off in the middle of the woods. But there were pyro techniques. Yeah. It was literally like the hottest and coldest I've ever been in simultaneous. Because he's right next to the pyro. He's right behind him. So, like, his front's freezing, but his back is dripping and sweat.

And I'm watching the plane and stuff. He's got to ignite. Dude, I was a solid, like, 12 feet in front of you. And I felt it on my back, so I could only imagine how hot it was. Like, man, am I, like, bipolar? I feel too difficult. Yeah. Oh.

Holy shit. Especially if you're, like, a drummer. You're already, like, using all your body parts. Yeah, so much going on at all at the same time. Yeah. I always get the drummers and the same. singer is the most shit, but without you guys, we're not, we're not shit.

We need a sick drummer. We need a great singer. And, uh, and you guys got both those. Otherwise, we're just wiff it or something. Don't, don't let them stroke. Let's go. Let's go. It's, it might be a fact, but don't say it.

Yeah. Yeah, they don't like to give us credit around here. You know what, right? Okay, and wait, with there, there's two ways that you could approach that. One is like, okay, you don't want to stroke the ego, which is true. However, correct me if I'm wrong Taylor, but singers tend to be like, you need to kind of talk in a little bit more. Yeah, we're a little sensitive, because we're writing lyrics, we're like touched into our soft or soft or something. You know what I mean?

I am sensitive. I'm a hothead, but I'm sensitive for sure. It's funny how that worked, but it's fucked. Fucked up. There's a tortured individual, man. Fuck. I'm just kidding. I feel like as a unit, though, we're all pretty good about knowing that everybody brings a very

huge chunk of what we are to the table. Like we're not anything without each other. Because we're definitely a hybrid band. You know what I mean? Because like usually like a lot of bands work where there's like one person writes everything and then like there's like the face right. Like that's like they have like those two parts but like for this band it's been

like everybody writes and everybody does a bunch of stuff all at once or whatever. So it's never like anybody's like in a different spot. So it's like I think it's kind of cool because we all work like so cohesively together which is like I found through like just being on the road and stuff that's not how a lot how a lot of other bands work.

No. Yeah. And so it's kind of weird whenever like I, like we explain it to people and they're just like, so like one guy doesn't write everything and we're like, nah. They're just like, that's weird, dude. He's just like, and I was just like, nah, it works for us, dude. We have a good fucking time. We all get into a cab and fucking riff it up and dude.

Our best songs are songs that are blends of everybody's riffs like being able to get everyone's flavor and influence on it. Yeah. That's one thing that I respect from community. guys is I'll go through all of like the song credits and like it's all your names yeah I'm like that's because we all touch it like every song like we're always like all like adding stuff to it or whatever you know what I mean sometimes there's like someone who does like you know a little bit more riffs or like a little bit more of this or whatever but at the end like it all just balances out you know what I mean

per record so yeah it's cool and uh it's great that you guys would naturally do that and as as you already said like you'll be surprised how many bands don't do that yeah fucking nuts because I was just like so accustomed to doing it like this for so long that I talked to all these other bands and I'm like it's like alien to me you know what I mean to think about having just like to rely on this one person to write on everything it just makes me feel weird right I mean well we even like Christian write guitar riffs and stuff like that which is not just like bass riffs and stuff like that but also when we first met him he was playing guitar in a local band and he was killing it so we want him to have his influence on stuff and I think there were even like two riffs that you tracked on the

new thing that we got coming out next year. Yeah, I sat there in the studio, like, just played the Rips out. And, yeah, I think it's, like, very cool, too, because, like, all this LP will be dropping some point next year. All three of us to play guitar on it, mostly these two. But it's, like, you can just hear, like, the different, like, velocities and, like, the feeling. I think it just gives, yeah, it gives, like, things different, like, feelings and stuff, which is cool, because, like, I could definitely tell, like,

the picking dynamics, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because like he'll track the riffs that he writes and he'll track the riffs that he writes and it makes it feel like the riffs drive differently. Interesting. You know what I mean? So it gives like a different like emotional like push to each of these like riffs or whatever, which I think is like what makes like the like in my opinion our music so special. Obviously I think it's special because I love it. It gives us definitely the the left turns and the ups and downs because it's literally just like it's not stagnant. It'll be from riff to riff like or just riff to chorus like if the drop of it had another person writing that music. So it just, yeah, there's a different character to it every time. Yeah. You know, because like, honestly, like, if you listen to both of them play the guitar,

their picking is completely different. Of course. Like, you can, it's, like, it's very audible. So, like, even there's, like, in the music, it gives it, like, such a different feel, which is, like, I think is really cool. You know what I mean? It keeps it, like, fresh, and your brain's always, like, whoa, this is crazy. I think we, like, always knew it, too.

But, like, once we started playing the same guitars running through, like, the same processors and stuff like that, like, whoa. Like, even when we're using pretty much same tones, like, it sounds big, different. Yeah. Difference for sure.

We've always said... They're complimentary, too, which is cool. We've always said that I've got the right hand, and then Jacob's got the left hand. Got some little bit, bo, bitty, bo, bitty, bo, bough. Yeah. It's very cool.

Because I dig deep when I pick. I just, I fucking go in that shit. He picks pissed, as I call it. Yeah. His picking Pete. And that motherfucker does some other fucking little, little, little, little, little, so. Triple Pete.

Yeah. Pitch triple threat. Coming for you. No, I mean, it's crazy. You guys are a real band. Yeah. It's, it's always so, like, it's so shocking. And then, like, you can play the same rig.

Same thing. But if it's someone else playing, like, you really total difference. It's so shocking how, like, the tone is really in your hands. I never knew that until I met them. You know what I mean? I was just always, like, in the, like, other local bands. And I was like, oh, it's a guitar. You plug it in.

You know what I mean? Yeah. But then they were doing it. And I was just like, wow, what the fuck? Like, y'all's tone sounds. completely different and it's the same fucking thing you're just like changing the person and like just the way that they play it makes it sounds so different how we came up as guitarist just like influenced us you know like we came from like the same like

range like definitely a lot of like new metal and rock I would say like some disturbed you know corn definitely Lincoln Park stuff like that at first and then just kind of like growing from there and then get more to like that after the burial suicide, silence, car and then just like those things kind of mended together. And I feel like that's a pretty good representation of what we try to make as our influence, you know. Yeah. Like I think it's even funny when we'll like be on the same kind of wavelength of what bands inspired us and be like, oh, he learned to play like hourglass by Lambagad. I learned to play old Merta.

You know, like it's like we pick different songs, but like we're going for the same band. Same but different. We've been learning the same band's riffs over the years. just like different songs for sure yeah it's cool that you guys embrace your influences but and then also dude the most important part is like you put your own thing to it yeah you know and then that's and that's your band it's cool it's really cool and uh you're the first i mean people i've heard that said it out loud that you're inspired by disturbed which is sick it's sick yeah no i think it's red that's definitely a fucking disturbed rocks dude i don't give a shit

when people say it with that man. I personally learned like one or two of the wrists. I just know that that's some of Jacob's bread and butter right now. Oh, bro. I literally, the down with the sickness album, the sickness album, I think it was called.

Dude, that was, I was like in sixth grade. I think I saw that album in Target, maybe. And I was like, that looks creepy as shit. Oh,

the little head thing? Yeah, yeah, he's like in the like full body cat or like casket little thing. I don't know, the cast. But, yeah,

I thought it looked creepy as hell for like a little kid. And I was like, I want to buy that. And then I bought it and I was like, this is my personality for a little bit. I'm going to identify as this from now on. I'm just going to sit here for a hot man.

Like the coast. Some of my first riffs were off St. Anger, the Metallica. Dude. They were, dude. Some kind of monster was literally my first riff I ever learned on the guitar. It was Rist Rick, bro. Yeah, they do. They do.

I love that album. Hot take, I know. I get it. I get it. No, it's sick. now, so now we're talking about disturbed and now we're talking about Stangar, too. Things I don't want to get brought up

in, like, maybe like a pocket. I feel like a lot of people just like shit on it for no reason, you know what I mean? They'll just be like, oh, Staneager's snare tone fucking sucks. It's just like, dude, like at the same time, there's other things going on in that record. It's not just a record of snare hits, too.

It's an arbitrary fact. I love the snare on that. You don't know. Even though it is what it is, that's like, I don't know, it's its own thing, I get that, though, because I get the sentiment behind it. It's hard tones, like a lot of, like... It's not good, but I love it.

I love it for being shit. We jam that album on tour drives, for sure. Wow, there's a song called Invisible Kid. I think it's drop G. It's a really low-tuning song. This is a sick-ass wrist. They put it in on those. That's one of the reasons I love it is because, like, those are some of my favorite

Metallica ribs. I do love thrash metal. But I'm more of just like, I like the groove type stuff, you know what I mean? I just feel like the more groove in that album for sure. Yeah, it's like personally for me to listen to Metallica. Like my favorite era of them is from Black album to St. Anger. Yeah. Like, it's just very groovy.

That's funny. I still respect everything they've done. Like, it's good. But like as far as what I go to, definitely. Definitely like the early Metallica stuff was what influenced meeting for guitar and bass. That's what I was like learning a lot when I was like 13, 14. But I think it's like later on life where it's like I really fell in love with more Gravere stuff. It's like just that 90s to St. Anger era just became my favorite.

Oh, yeah. It's meant it's like you guys are like a different generation. How old are you guys? I'm 25 range. Oh yeah, 25. I'm 30. Okay. I'm 24.

Whoa. I'm about to turn 28 at the beginning of next year. 27. Makes a lot of sense. Okay. So St. Anger, I was fucking, what, 12 when I came out. So you guys were, what, five or six or something? It makes sense, yeah.

So when you're growing up and you probably, you're at a point where you're listening to music and, of course, like, it's either corn or comes up or like, or a black album. Yeah, the first thing you're going to hear is that. You're probably going to hear St. Anger first. than that you have a different connection than other people do with that album. Absolutely. It's pretty cool. I think it's a pretty cool record.

Yeah. I mean, I'm going to be completely honest with you, I never really got into Metallica. That's just never been my thing. It's like they always play it and I appreciate it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not saying they're bad, but like at all. You know what I mean?

I just never got the like that put on me at that age or whatever. It was always like corn and Lincoln park and you know what I mean like three doors down and shit like that you know what I mean so like I never really got the whole like Metallica wave but I definitely respect and appreciate what they do for sure because they're ripped I mean but they've showed me on like some of the stuff I'm like these these riffs do slap those riffs are fucking hard to play those riffs fucking slap my world bro that's where the rifts are at yes there's a riffs in that one oh yeah it's it's funny because

uh we Taylor we had that in common like I'm not I'm not into thrash at all me neither I tried I tried, I literally sat there and tried the, like, listen, like, the Slayer and stuff or... I see, never got into them either. I'm just not, like, it's not my thing, but if this Metallica record I put on, it's always a black album. All the time. Yeah. That record is just fucking phenomenal, dude. Yeah.

Timeless. Yeah. Timeless, yeah. It's funny. That really explains why that band so massive. You could have, they have so many kinds of bands. It's generational fans, which is crazy. Yeah.

Because I feel like each, like, like, record, there's, like, a different, like a different like time demographic of fan that they create you know what I mean so like you just have like these like huge rage of like age like fans that go back for the first album it's crazy especially with like metallic like Metallica being featured like stranger things too it's like that's just breeding a whole new generation yeah and there's kids that are listening to it now for the first time and they're going to be like oh stranger things band you know what I mean it's just like master of puppets yeah it's just like a new record yeah they're just straight up

You're like, whoa. Even if they love it because it's retro, like, finding it through their own means, through their own media that's, like, new, their own niche. They're going to cling on to it way harder. Straight up. I always think about, like, when someone hears a band or watches, like, a certain type of movie, like, for, like, example, it could be like a movie. And it's, like, it's a remake. It's not like the original movie. For us, like, we have our original version of whatever movie you're watching.

But to them, I'm like, I can't hate because that's going to be their first experience. Right With that kind of movie And then that's their whole life You know It's like I mean what I mean what makes my mind so much better Everyone just has different takeaways

From everything Nostalgia is a weird Yeah and sometimes you Sometimes you might go backwards You know And oh shit is some dope shit I remember I heard corn's fault later

That was the first record I heard And then you go backwards You're like oh my God Dude corn is so fucking good Mama's issues Damn Yeah

technically the first one I think I got introduced to might have been Follow the Leader But the first one I ever bought was the self-titled And it was just Issues might be one of my favorites though Yeah it's such a hard toss-up for me Between followed the litter of issues and Both those records literally from front to back

Are so good Oh yeah Coming up. From front to back The music video was on MTV And in the morning Damn And I was like in fifth grade or some shit like that

And I feel like that was my introduction to KORN I love how much everybody in his band loves corn We're just always jammed Dude always jamming corn dude You guys when you have to say anything I don't even have to hear your band I just feel it from your bodies Yeah

We radiate cord energy The whole flop thing If you just watch the cornwoodstock 99 set You'll get it Dude that shit gives you goosebumps Every time you watch flying You're like Win it in it dude

You see it like the fireworks and shit going up Dude Fuck. It was just so good. Imagine, I was thinking about like, Are you right? And they were headbanging so hard. So hard.

They're like, damn. Throwing their bodies. Dude, just getting it, dude. But there's hell of people. And like, the wave of people jumping was crazy. I was like, dude. People literally like, you couldn't even see the end of it, dude. It was just.

I think that was the moment that really, like, define like oh this is like this is like that I'm a corn's first record or that song that video they're yeah that it really builds up to that moment yeah and then that now I mean they're they're corn for life bro you know they're legends for sure dude literally we talked about this the other day we were like yo whenever time travel like comes to be like a real thing that's the first place I'm going what's that is we're going to what's top 99 to watch that corn and the limb biscuits said we're gonna watch both of them

yeah but we said that's the first motherfucking place that we're going is we're going back to Woodstock to watch cord and we're gonna bring her on water too we're gonna pack it up but we're gonna be chilling and nice well we're only gonna be there

until it gets bad and then we're gonna bounce you know what I mean we just gotta feel the energy for a minute and then we're out let's think around for good time travel with the van that'd be sick Dude, just like drops right in the middle of everybody. Oh, my God was suck.

I'm not bad. You're like, I don't know why that's what popped into my head. That's so awful. So you just want to talk travel. Fuck. One too many horror movies. Yeah, dude,

Final Destination is just a grade in my fucking memory, dude. Oh my goodness, dude. Straight up, though, every time I'm behind a log truck, Final Destination 3. Dad, dude, it's just like, I'm gonna die here today, dude. Sorry. That was a completely different tangent. But corn, for real.

That's where we would go back. Same. That's a great moment. Any of those old, like, Oz Fest would be great to see, too. Exactly. I mean, yeah, just like that video, if you feel that way watching just a video, you're like, I'm not a person. Imagine. You could, you couldn't, you literally can't even fathom it.

You can't. You can't unless you were there. Like, that's just, that's why I would time travel back to it. Did you, uh, I, I know. planning it into this, but we'll make it quick. But what was all your first shows and did you have a cell phone yet? First show, one. My first, like, metal core show I ever went to was, like, four today and upon a burning

body and Memphis Mayfire. That was, like, the first, like, metal poor show I ever went to. I was, like, 15, I think. Did you have a phone yet? Yes, I did. Oh, wow. So your first show, you had a phone? Yeah.

Damn. We're babies, dude. I am. I am. I am the baby. Yeah. I mean, he's like only a couple months younger than me, but it's still just like, like, I think my first show I had like at least a Nokia. Like that.

You had a phone during your first show. Yeah, but I don't think it was like, it wasn't like one of the good phones by any means. Because I was definitely, I think literally like one of the first shows I went to was like a local show with my brother. And it was like Attila and, oh my God, like Dr. Acula. and like volumes and something like that, but Attila was like a local opener. And it was like 2000 and like what? I was like an eighth grade.

Like I can't remember how old, how long ago that was, but... It was forever ago. 2009, you serious? Something like that, yeah. I was mad young, dude. Dude, we were already on tour by it. Yeah.

Wow, that's fucking so crazy. You're legends, dude. Is that the way it's saying you're old? No, you're just, You're just Legends You just been hitting the fucking ground running for a minute, dude It's like you're a legend

You guys are old Legends Dude No, dude Because like, so how old were you when you started touring though? 1920 That's young

You know what I mean? Like that's like, I feel like that's fairly young to start touring Like for real, for real It is You know what I mean? So like, I mean, that's like Yeah, they're right revolutionizing the world as a kid.

You got a little head start too. I was just, I'm just younger. You know what I mean? Wow. Imagine seeing corn in 99 in their prime with no cell phone being a 12 year old kid. Dude, my first show was. I don't think about my 12 year old mind could like handle it. My first show was corn.

It was a family values tour. Nice. It was 2004, I think. It was corn, deaf tones. Hell yeah. And dire and gray. Oh, yeah. I think.

And I don't think I had a phone. Yeah, I think it was like regular for people to have fun of. I don't know if I had one, though. I don't think so at the time. Damn. Yeah. I was like 13 or 14, something like that. So I was born in 92, so, no, like 12, 12, 13, yeah.

Holy shit. Born in 92. Are you guys even old enough to cuss? Oh, shit. I'm sorry. I couldn't help it. My mom would be so. No, yeah, take them, dude.

We're good. It's okay. Yeah, take them, dude. We can take them on the chin, dude. It's all good. Oh my goodness, dude Yeah My first show

It was like a couple Where it's like KISS was like my first like Concert ever went to Right Um I was the first My first like

My first like metal show Right I said my first like metal Like It was Warp 2211 But the first like metal show It was like I guess like

Like a festival kind of thing Was all show Parish Carnifex Um There's a couple of bands On the line on two I can't remember

On top of my head but the Cotortionist was also playing back when they were like a deathcore band. Damn. Man, I hate the old vocalist from All Shall Parish, dude. Me too. That guy is the worst. Singer, as bass players, I hate him.

God. Are you lazy? Me? Yeah. I can't be. I'm pissed already. It's a preem of traumatic memories. Oh my goodness.

Oh, that's funny. I learned that the older you get, the more you guys is bunched chudders' balls. You know, I can say anything, and they know I'm just fucking around. And vice versa. Yeah. You know? Exactly. So, yeah, fuck, I don't know.

Fuck, I can't you. My goodness. We bust each other's balls all the time, too, so it's cool. It's a constant thing. I feel like it's just being in a band, though. Sometimes it's literally the first thing. Or, like, being around each other for long enough, you know what I mean? You scream, I'll kill you.

to we each other. I'll kill you. Do you know that I could kill you? Yeah, I can kill you with two moves. I could kill you at one. Let's fucking find out. Motherfucker. And it's a great idea after these 10 shots.

It's a great idea to start fighting. Yeah. What's really special about what you guys are doing, very similar to us is like you guys share, like, the writing credit, you know? A lot of bands don't do that. Yeah, but, uh, I think it's egos, dude, just being honest. Yes. It's going to be completely flat on, honest.

I think a lot of people just get very egotistical when it comes to writing and they want to just like, oh, this is all me, you know what I mean? When they don't make it like a group effort thing. Totally. Yeah. Yeah, I vote the same way. And, you know, obviously, I can't predict the future what, what's going to happen with, with you guys and your band.

But for us, like, we went through like multiple lows and there's something to be said when you bring everybody in. and on all facets they grow through like the low with you you know money's gone it's fine I mean we're a fucking

you build character bro yeah we're a fucking unit and like those those little decision you made when we were kids turned out to really fucking benefit us yep you know

they're just no matter what we have to those backs and you got you guys are doing the same thing you know that last dude yeah I mean I think that everything

works better when you have more gears in the system I mean totally just works things just get done faster and more efficiently you know absolutely yeah and you guys are building your your friendship your brotherhood a lifelong brotherhood and like inside of a fucking storage unit you know yeah right that ass literally a literally a storage yeah yeah yeah yeah do you guys really right in a storage unit we did we used we used to not anymore yeah yeah not anymore but yeah we that it was literally like

the smallest thing ever in a storage unit and like there was like another band that had another one and the thing and they used to get mad at us because we had practiced at the same time and we were just way louder than it. You're like crank it up, I don't give it shit. So funny.

Man, out there storage units must be a lot different because I can't, because we have a little unit. I'm like, I can't practice in there. I mean we made it work. I mean, it literally was probably the size of this room maybe like slightly longer. Yeah. Right? A little bit longer.

Maybe a little bit longer, but not by much, though. No. And it literally was like about the size of this. We would have the drum kit right here, and then we just surrounded the cabs and stuff around pointing in at each other. Oh, my goodness. And it was just a box of noise. There's like power coming from the hallway at some point. Yeah, I mean, to be fair.

We outgrew it. That's why we're not there. Yeah, we did also look around for a long time to find a place that wasn't like having issues with, like, the noise ordinance and stuff like that as well. And then we found this one place. that happened to be band friendly. Yeah. Because it was a decent amount of bands there. We met people that were practicing now.

On almost every floor. Yeah, there was that... Do you remember the old lady that said her son was the drummer of a... What was the band? Man, I remember the whole instance, but I don't remember the band. Dude, it was some, like, legendary band, though.

I can't remember. Oh, that's so annoying. He just plays here all the time. Yeah, he was like, he just has a storage unit here and he just comes here and plays drums. I can't remember. What the fuck, dude? Dude, I can't.

Why did we smoke that? You did this to us. Now I can't shake it anything. We'll get back to you. It was some big band. She said it and I was like, wait, what? Hold on, what? I can't remember who was.

Why are you here? It literally was a bat in that storage unit one time. Oh, yeah. Baby bat. That part sounded like shit, huh? Is the jamming a storage unit? Yeah, you couldn't tell what was going on. It was just a.

At the time, though, for just, like, what we were doing, we were just kind of out of figuring it the fucking out of the fucking out. Dude, we practiced to open up for a mirror in that motherfucker, bro. We've literally practiced to open up for wage war. It was wage war in a mirror, right? And stick to your guns. And stick to your guns, yeah. We opened that show, dude, and we practiced in that storage. We wrote.

And I'm pretty sure we didn't. I don't have no idea. Just for now in, like, three days and practice it with, like, two and a half weeks of notice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were just straight raw on it, dude No tracks. It was tight.

Holy shit. Straight old school. It still worked very long for the time. Oh, it was relatively tight. Given a lot of other circumstances. It's like, man, we sound like shit right now. Yeah. It's just because it's bouncing in thousands of directions.

I can't imagine riding in a storage unit. I really can't because you... We got it done. Somehow. I don't know how we did it, but we definitely got it done. Using that in my laptop with a Reaper. Yeah, and that laptop was fucked.

Oh my goodness, dude. Yeah, dude. So you guys are out of that storage unit, congrats. Oh, yeah. It's fucking bad ass. Bigger and better things now, dude. Yeah. Now we're sitting here with you. It's crazy. It's fast time flies, huh? Boom. It's nuts, huh?

Facts, honestly. Honestly. Yeah. Like, to even actually put that in a perspective was kind of fucking wild. Like, holy shit, we were practicing in a storage unit and I'm sitting here now. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. You guys have.

I've gotten a lot done in a short amount of time. Yeah, our team rocks, bro. Like, we have, like, I'm not discrediting any of our work ethics, because we bust our ass all the time. But we also have, like, our manager, Jeff, like, bust his ass, bro. And it's, like, put us in a lot of, like, good situations and, like, help grow and molder ideas into, like, getting things, like, bigger and, like, marketing ourselves the right way and stuff.

And I feel, like, with everything combined, it's just been such of, like, adrenaline shot of shit. It's happened over the past, what, three years now. Oh, yeah. It's just been, like, it's been, like, blindingly fast. Like, we've just been like, whoa, okay, we're on this tour. Oh, my God, okay, now we're writing. Now we're writing this, and now we're on this tour.

You know what I mean? It's just been so fast, but it's cool. We're just always grinding. We get home, and we're going to immediately, you know, probably sleep for three or four days. And then we're going to start thinking about what's going on, like after that. Sick, I thought you were going to say three to four hours. I'm going to be honest with you, man. That's like one night cycle.

I'm good. Definitely need a little bit more than a couple hours of sleep for sure to recover. Definitely probably not three or four days. I'd say maybe a day. And then I probably, because I'll probably think that I want to sleep for three days. Then my body's not going to let me sleep for three days. Right.

Yeah. You're ready to go again. But just take it easy and just chill. Yeah, you just vibe out for like a day or two. But, you know, after that, we're plotting our next move, you know. It seems like, because you put out your first stuff in 2020. And your timeline is interesting. Yeah.

Because obviously you had, so now you have this band. And then obviously like the pandemic happens. And every few months you're releasing music. You have a record, then a live record. And a few months later, you have like a EP. And a few months, it was like this, was that like done on purpose? So, I mean, it was everything wasn't actually done like that on purpose. I mean, it is now.

I mean, it was done on purpose. But like, we had to like, we work at a very quick pace. Yeah. So it's like we have something done. We plan for that to get done. But as we're planning for that to get done, we're already working on the next two or three things. Yeah. Simultaneously.

So it's like as we're rolling something out, we're already getting another, like, thing mixed and mastered to put out a couple months after that. So like we're never-endingly churning out music and content because we're just like working on two to three things at the same time. It's very rare that we don't have a decent amount of songs. just kind of like ready to go. Because I mean like we all live so close to each other. Yeah. Getting together to write music is just pretty regular thing for us. So it's just something that we literally do and we're just at home.

And we're just chilling and we write music together. And we just, you know, sometimes we will make it a statement like, okay, now we have to write this amount of songs for this amount of stuff. But there's so many times to we're just like, y'all want to come over and then we just fucking do the damn thing. Shit, right. I have my phone on. Where do you go, Jacob?

Still going off. Professional. So how far is your... So what do you guys practice in that? Do you guys play in like a room in Sergeant Jammin? Well, right now we've been practicing, or I mean, riding on like some gear that I acquired from over the years. I got a Mac and an Apollo.

We kind of do a lot of demos on there. Cool. And take them to wherever we go to get them produced and mix and mastered and stuff like that. Okay. like just the base ideas that we come up with. Yeah. But I mean, like, even for this last album, we just, we decided to, like,

since Jacob lives in the woods, we just grabbed all my gear and we went out to Jacob's house and we just, like, literally secluded ourselves for, like, a week and just, like, vibed out and just chilled and made some songs. Made a little record. Yeah.

Smoked a lot of weed. Oh, yeah. So much weed. A very good bit. Yeah, it's fucking cool, man. It's sick. I love it. Yeah, you guys are

Yeah, I mean, that's a very, like, it sounds like it's natural for you guys. Right. It's natural now. Yeah, I was going to say, I think that Jeff had a lot to do with, like, kind of setting the pace because when we were first starting, we already had two or three songs and then...

We had burden and lost it last, I think, because I know we showed Jeff the Lost at last music video, and that was the first I'd met Jeff, was at that point. And just for now was already. We had that written, right? Yeah. So we had those and he was like very like down with it and everything but was like, you know, we could be pushing the pace and doing more and we're like, whoa.

Like he was very quick to let us know what we were doing. Yeah, like you could you could be doing more and like having more. I feel like it's because he saw potential in us. And he was like, I know I can make these guys like do what it is they want to do. And he's just kind of been drill sergeant us since like day one. We definitely needed it. Yeah, we're like kicking in go mode and then now it's just kind of became a thing. It's just a lot of direction.

It's gotten us to where we are for sure. How did you guys meet, Jeff? I actually met him. I used to work, well, used to, like, kind of currently work at the masquerade doing, like, security and stuff or whatever. And he was the marketing guy for, like, for all of the shows going on to the masquerade in Atlanta. and so I kind of met him like through that never really was like close to him or anything but um I like randomly hit him up because we had done the burden music video and we were just kind of like I don't know we were like trying to figure out like how to like put it out the right

way because we were all just like it was the first time we all like wrote together and so like all of like our previous stuff that they wrote without us being in the band sounded so much so so different you know what I mean so we were like okay well let's do this the right way and And so like I hit up Jeff and then he ended up being like okay cool like let's talk or whatever Then me and him right those me and you that went to that thing or whatever and then we talked to him and then we all met up after that at like a grind house burger And then he was like you guys need to rebrand and because we were technically a different band yeah that point we were called lost at last That's where that song we were writing music for just like a like a different vibe like we were for sure trying to hit the mark that we tried to to hit with this.

But yeah, he pretty much just like cut it to a straight. He was like, you change your name and let's hit the ground running. And then honestly since that day, I don't think like we look back. Nope. Damn. Yeah. It was just like a button was pushed and it was just like, pooh.

It's like we're out. Yeah, everything looks very like well put together. Trying our best, you know. Like I said, it's chaotic because it's like things are just constantly happening all the time. But I feel like I mean, we're dealing with it, you know, as best as we can for sure. Yeah. you want to stay busy yeah you know i don't ever want to be bored no and it's sick because over the

years like we've built a very close relationship with jeff too yeah he's like he's like a member of the band he's like he's definitely like the sixth member yeah for sure like that man's in the paperwork like he's with us for the long haul yeah it's cool yeah it's awesome um yeah i was gonna say something like should i say that always uh always watch your money oh for sure always yeah because i mean he does our money anyways. Good. So we got a, we got an eye on that regardless.

But no, Jeff has actually been, that dude, does financially. I was going to say, that dude's actually put money into the band. Yeah,

great. Like himself and then like, yeah. He's an investor. Literally. Not just his money, but his time too. Because everybody says the same thing.

They're like, oh, manager, da-da-da-da. They get that like prototypical, like, managers who take like, you know,

X amount of percent of all your shit. It's like not at all when I do this does. I feel like before we'd even met, Jeff, I was just like investing in like the completely wrong areas. Yeah. And then as soon as we met him, that was like one of the big things of just like, he told us like this is where you need to be putting it and like those kinds of things too. That's great.

Yeah. It's a fucking badass. Oh yeah. It's pretty cool. Honestly, we got a definitely a little diamond in the rough with that guy for sure. We're really happy that he saw some potential in us for sure. He was a hidden gym and we went in and mined him. He wasn't hidden for a while whenever he was fucking.

doing all the sworn in shit and stuff. He was on top of the he was on the land in too. He was a little over there. Because he was the manager of sworn in and youth forever. Okay. And a bunch of other like those like

you know that little weird wave of like those metal core bands that came out with like when the death card dropped for sworn in and stuff. But yeah. He was like managing a lot of those bands like barrier. Oh, sick. Yeah.

You need a, yeah, you need a manager. You need some kind of like out. It's very nice to have like an outside perspective because you're so like close in it. Right. Does it have like, hey you guys should,

you know, try this or not or not or not do this say no to this say yes to this is it's very it's very helpful yeah for sure one one thing that is impressed me about your band is that there's especially like over like like the pandemic was there was two mindsets uh two things i've heard for from my band it's like oh this is this didn't happen because of pandemic but it seems like with bands like you guys you took advantage of it yeah and used it as like uh in a weird way like like a like a strain and you just putting out music everyone's home dude you know mean like what are you gonna do like you're just gonna sit at home too and at the time we all lived within

like 30 minutes of each other so we were still getting together when they were regardless yeah they were they were just like oh you can't be together we were like fuck you can be carefully we were doing the tests and stuff but we found our way but we found our way to get it to make it happen yeah yeah and it's just like you know and that's why you know like i mean even jeff like i said to bring him up again he brought it up like at the very beginning of the pandemic he was like there's going to be two things that happen is there's going to be these bands and who are like, I guess you can see where we're at right now. Like some opening bands that be at bands that are regional that are like, you know,

able to go on like bigger tours and like open for bigger tours that are like growing, right? And then there's going to be the bands that were already there that don't do anything and then they fall out of that category. Wow. So we were like a smaller band and we busted our ass. What was there? You're right? My phone.

Yeah. I was just like, dude. That sounded like a body, bro. Yeah. I was like, wow. It's so loud. It means so much noise. Yeah.

But, yeah. So, like, you know, it's just like you just had to grind it out throughout, you know, the pandemic or whatever. And then you're going to come out of it, like, at a way different thing. And TikTok helped a lot in that aspect. So we had, like, you know, two different songs go viral on TikTok. And it was like a whole different aspect coming out of the pandemic. It was just like it felt like we were just like leveled up so hard. It was just wild.

Whoa. Yeah. We're like, go back out on tour or whatever. people coming in and they're like screaming our lyrics and shit out of nowhere and I was just like when did that happen you know what I mean like we've just been sitting at home you know what I mean like fucking whatever and then it's just it's just honestly super cool yeah it was so cool like the first show when we played like right when or a headliner yeah it was like we've always had like good buzz at like all the shows we played before it right before the pandemic

did we sell that show out in like a week and a half yeah It's also the first heavy show in Atlanta. Yeah. Right when everything opened back up, we did a headliner. And we sold it out in a week and a half. It was like a 350 cap room. Whoa. Yeah.

That's a big deal, man. It was our first headliner ever. That was our first headliner ever. Yeah. And we had only been a band for what, like a year and a half, two years at that point? Yeah. Like that, like that, like barely like, like, and that's what I'm saying. The pandemic literally made us that much bigger.

It was also my first show with the band, right? Yeah, that was your first show. And, uh, and yeah, do we play? that show and I still go back to like the videos of that stuff where like every single person in the crowd is just like every word. It's crazy. That is insane.

It was mind blowing dude. Yeah. Yeah. I remember we played like Loat and anger. Anger? Both times like we got like the main lines of the song. Jacob. What? Hey. It's not every time I pick it up it's not going

saying anything. I think it's mine. I'll turn it off. you're fine but I was like getting goosebumps on stage just like watching like seeing everybody yelling words

people like stage diving crowd surfing when it's so cool yeah it was like honestly like one of the turning points I feel like in in all of us

where it was like oh shit like we can actually like do this shit like holy crap this is crazy and realize we had the hometown yeah for sure

it's even like even like a week or two later we went on like a four day run with Lorna Shore also another band that just blew up yeah during the

pandemic and like there were still like plenty of people of these shows too that were just coming out knowing what the fuck who the fuck we were in for yeah it was just like it was just like whoa like so we really did feel like we did grow

exponentially yeah I mean if thinking about it what that was what two years of you guys just grinding and putting out EP's singles a record a live record I mean yeah and then boom first

first handling show that that's a fucking big deal man Wild, dude. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of just, like, weird to think about, but I mean, it's very, yeah, very cool. It's good. We feel the love. Yeah. Very fucking cool.

We love being from Atlanta, for sure. Yeah. What's it like for you guys to be from there? It's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the, the vibe is very high. The players play.

They ride with them things like every day, you know? There's always shit happening. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Atlanta's a vibe, dude. It's like, I feel like everybody. I feel like everybody just kind of like whenever the shows happen, it's just like a party.

Yeah, it's true. Just everybody's out there just fucking having a good time. That block there for the masquerade, how is that area? Oh, the underground? No, I mean like around the venue. Some of it's kind of fucking shot, to be honest with you. There's a lot of like homeless and like a lot of like that stuff that goes on down there. But like I don't think it's necessarily like a really bad area.

Okay It's just a lot of homeless Like a lot of like really like I don't know Just like those people who are just like Laying on the sidewalk and stuff Okay Yeah

Because I'll go walk into that You guys know that Chinese food place right there And then there's like like a subway Across from that Every time I walk there I'm like Kind of Yeah Wash my back

No I feel you I don't think it's really It's not necessarily that bad Okay There's just like It's hard to tell with Atlanta Because you can literally walk a block And be in a completely different

area. Really? Yeah, like, you can, like, walk one block and it's like, oh, everything's chilling. And then you take, like, one wrong turn and you're like, this road's fucked. This street's kind of intense. Holy shit. Yeah, it's very weird. It's literally block to block basis for sure.

Damn. Yeah. But, like, in and around that area, especially now, I mean, I mean, there's some bad people everywhere. You know what I mean? Of course. I actually don't have problems. But I definitely don't have.

But I definitely don't have. It's like, even like the areas that look run down are not actually bad. Yeah, it's not a nice area, too, where it's like, you actually have to watch yourself. Straight up. You're a target. Holy shit. So you got you guys, we got seven dust. Yeah.

What a fucking beautiful town, man. Yeah. Norman Gene. Oh, yeah, huh? Chariot. Chariot, yeah. Have you met any of the seven dust guys? No.

No, not yet? Actually, we haven't. I don't think so. I haven't, no. Wait, I think somebody met the guitarist at a gas station one time. Nice Who was it? Was it either Clint or John?

No, it wasn't me. I remember somebody. I think it was Levi. I really feel like that was Levi before a practice. Yeah, I think it was Levi. Our old drummer. Yeah. What happened to a Levi?

He ended up a, he was a tattoo artist. And he just obviously is making so much more fucking money doing that. So he just had his priority somewhere else. And honestly, like, that dude's crushing it now. He's an amazing tattoo artist. Yeah, he's a boss. He was doing, I was, he was, he was, He literally has like I have so many pieces with him on both of us. Yeah, I put on him. I would say like four tattoos

So many I would say he gave him my first I would say 50% of my tattoos are from Levi I'd say probably a good close to like 3040% of mine are from Levi yeah you go away bet you guys might be more new metal on me guys have new metal tattoos huh? Yeah. Oh yeah Yeah, three of us have actually this hand piece literally got done on the first tour that we did in a in a fucking kitchen Yeah, kitchen In a kitchen. After a show. Like in Knoxville? Nashville?

I think it was Knoxville. Nashville. No. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Whatever the fuck. We played it in Nashville. And it was on like a routing date and we pulled up to like party with these people after the set or whatever.

And he was just like, yeah, dude. I'll tattoo your hand. Nice. It's nice. It's nice. I love it, dude. What are some of the band tattoos? I got a deaf tones.

I've got a deaf tones, wouldn't you? The white pony. I have my own. band tattooed on me. There you go. We have a commemorative tattoo. Actually, yeah, we all have it. Yeah, we all have.

There we go. Me, Taylor, and Peter all have, like, the Deftose one, and all five of us have, like, the Letta Suffer Snake logo. Yeah. And then you have the Wormwood thing on you. Oh, yeah, a KSTREAM worm, wormwood. Oh, my goodness.

Yeah. There's also a Levi tattoo. Like, he crushed it. Yeah. You love a case through the strain. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. That was, like, that was like the band that I sent me over

into, like, I was like really getting into heavy music and then I discovered that album on Mike. Warmwood, yeah. do. Wow. Make heavy music. Yeah. That's interesting because that's one of their later records. It's crazy.

Yeah, it's like, it was like 2010, I think. Because he was, yeah, it was continent and then that one correct? Yeah. I enjoy continent a lot too, but. That's a fucking heavy. Facts. Heavy, dude.

Watching that shit live was fucked. Yeah, we opened up for the continent across the, the rare form across the continent tour, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. We did the, we did the Atlanta date for that, and it was fucking cool watching like ATB play rear form and then like a case

restraint play continent like right after it it's fucking sick. That's pretty sick. That crowd was brutal. It was so fun. We walked out, they started cheering and we're like, I don't even know we're playing. Yeah, the hell we are. Yeah, facts dude. We didn't play with tracks then either, did we? Nope. Oh, man, that makes me feel so weird.

You were still wrong. No backtracks. No backtracks makes my skin crawl. There's a whole, I remember of the whole set list too. We had played burden at one point in the set, and then all of it was old stuff we scrapped when we changed into a lot to suffer. That's fucking hilarious.

How did you guys meet each other? Messed through the local scene. The first day I met y'all was when I got out of the jail. Yeah. What? And it was such a funny fucking story, we were playing a house show

in a literal cul-de-sac with, I want to say, rain and boundaries. He's got a nothing. and God of nothing Yeah Boundaries didn't show up So there's just rain and God of nothing An apothecary

And apothecary Yeah Yeah and like me and Jacob Our old band From the local scene Was also playing the show And this man shows up With a fucking big ass

Like the speaker Like the PA That we're like using For the show And shit like that In a driveway In a driveway In a drive way

I still didn't have My laces in my shoes From getting out of jail that morning. I literally had no laces in my shoes because they take them out when you get put into jail. Wow. And fucking, I was like disheveled, hadn't showered. I like passed, like, my friend Brian

who's the vocalist of that fucking band, like, got me out of jail and I literally like woke up, like, at his house, we went to that show. And then I met them. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And then we just met him

through fucking... I was playing an old local band called naked. I was playing. I was my guitar for them actually and they met Peter first and then Taylor we actually funny thing is is that like the three of us all play a show together in different bands. Yeah.

And then somehow ended up in the same band together. They, I got invited to come to a practice because I was like wanted to try on a different project and I remember when we were sitting at that bar and leave my house. I don't know why I remember that situation so clearly. I remember when he posted on Facebook he was like, I want to do something else

da-da-da-da-da-da. And it was me and him and our old drummer were living together at the time and I looked over at him and I was like yo dude like should we ask him to be our third guitarist and we had three guitars at this time yeah because we already had a bass because we had a bass player and we had known him

his other band and like we had heard and his other band was tight it was tight so we were like fuck yeah like we're the next white chappel whatever right yeah yeah fun thing was that yeah so I did get hired into the band as a third guitarist um Earl base player left

would try to like find a base player or something like that and then one day I was just like I had a really good paycheck from work I was like

fucking fucking buy the base bottle on board and then bought like a cab like a month later yeah holy shit I gave

and this is pretty much been the entire route of Christian like any time like he's like got something to get he gets it he makes it

yeah get the fucking ding wall yeah it's like all these kind of things that just like I just do it it's just

it's like hey you got this and it's like yeah he's like yeah I bought a ding wall it's like $3,500 I was like Jesus fucking Christ dude like he just bought a small car pretty much bigger car than I had at the time yeah it sounds fucking and then we met Alex just he was in another local band or a band from fucking Florida but he was in Alabama he was playing drums for Weeping Woon and yeah then they opened for that band a handful of times and then over the pandemic I wasn't in that band any anymore and then Taylor just called me randomly one day.

I was like, hey, like, we kind of need a drummer. Like, are you interested? And I was like, yeah, sure. And then I broke my shoulder like a week afterwards. Dude. I did that longboarding. And then I had surgery. But then, like, a month later, I called him and was like, hey, do you still need a drummer?

Like, I still was in a sling. But I was like, I'm going to do it. And so then I just started practicing with them like a couple months after that. We was driving like four hours. every week to come rehearsed. Literally from Alabama and Georgia. And he was learning like unreleased music that like we hadn't put out yet.

Yeah. Like just show up and like, kill the song and be like, it was pretty set. Basically everybody tried to go hard. Yeah. Everybody kind of do it. Yeah. So you know, where I drive? It's like three maybe, but like I was doing it like every week.

Yeah, it was sometimes twice a week. For like the first six or so months that I was in the band. Yeah. And we practiced a decent amount because we were like, you know, like our manager Jeff was telling us, like you guys are about to tour. Like it's about to have. Yeah, like you need to prep yourself. Oh, then. So we made it to sometimes twice a week, usually once a week or so.

But like, I mean, there was sometimes where we get together multiple times just to like get new shit. Right. Yeah. Wow. So where, Alex, what do you live now? Birmingham. Oh, shit. Yeah.

So are you still, are you still making a drive? You're flying out? What's the? I mean, like. I'm usually, like, just, like, kind of hopping around it, like, their houses and stuff, too, just doing whatever, or, like, I'll go back home. But, like, I don't know. Like, I feel like it's not that hard. I make it work pretty well because, like, we stay pretty busy.

So, like, a lot of times I just go over and, like, I don't know. We have enough stuff going on to where, like, I don't even have to think about, like, going back home or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah. We're all at each other's house anyway, so, like, staying at each other's house is a regular thing. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure all being your friends is very helpful. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Yeah, it definitely does. It definitely helps on a lot. Hey, come on, we're all your dabs and mushrooms. Yeah, straight up, dead ass. The real fucking thing. That's what happens.

You nailed that shit right on the head, dude. Oh, my goodness. I'm serious. Dead ass. Oh, my goodness. So you guys did mushrooms for a show. Yeah. It was like two or three weeks ago?

Oh, my goodness. Like three weeks ago? What day was? Was it? Yeah, you're right. Fort Wayne. Oh, my God, dude. And then, oh, my God.

Okay, hold on. Since you like story time so much, I'm going to fucking put it on the record, dude. Let's do it. It's story time with Taylor. I'm putting it on the fucking record now, dude. Don't do that. I'm just kidding. No, but seriously, after a whole day, us four, we're all doing, you do mushrooms all day with us, too, right?

Sort of. Yeah. But mainly, it was mainly me, Peter. and Jacob, we were doing, we like, woke up at like 9 a.m. And then we were like, whatever. We were just, we were doing mushrooms, dude. And like, it was pretty much in an all day event. Like, we were like, okay, cool.

Like, we tripped like kind of like, I said micro dosing. But then Peter was like, you took a second eighth of shroom. Yeah, dude. Taylor was just like laying in the back. And he was like, dude, I fucking love microdosing shrooms. I'm like, bro, you just took a 3.5, my guy. You were not like this. So we're, so we're.

like tripping, right? And like, fucking, so we kind of kept this going all day. Then we were like, all right, fuck it. Let's just do it. We'll just keep it rolling through the set. And we were like, all right, cool, fuck it. So we took some. Did the set. I mean, ripped the set. Be honest, so the set was lit. Like, before the set, it was a moment. Like, I didn't fuck up. Like, I watched videos. You know what I mean? Like, I was like, I need to make sure that I wasn't just tripping it. I felt good. We were tripping to the point of whatever I picked my guitar up before the set, it felt way fucking different. And I got a little worried. But then as soon as fucking Alec did the first, like, t-t-t, I was like,

I played this a thousand times. Like dead ass. Like, I've played this a lot of times. I've fucking not do this thing. I have really good muscle memory. Yeah. You know, like, I was, you know, thoughts were going everywhere, you know. Like, the lights looked, you know, pretty serious.

It was pretty rad. I remember vividly just, like, how crazy everything looked with those lights. And there's one picture that someone got on their Instagram. and I am just like looking out into the audience like I am looking at the eye of God dude me I was just hyper focused on everybody's faces

kind of blurring together like I was just like doing the whole like looking back and forth in the crowd and everything was just kind of like and I just would be like I need to turn around and I would like turn around and loki like try to make eye contact with like him

look at me and he would just be like and I would just have to like bring myself back to earth and I'm like, all right, I'm on stage. And then I would turn back around. I'm like, oh, yeah, what the fuck's going on? You know what I mean? Like, get back into it. I'm chilling.

But, like, there was a couple times it would, like, get, like, you're like, oh, wow, I'm fucked up right now. And then I have to center myself real quick and then you just go right back to it. You know what I mean? It's a special occasion kind of thing. It's kind of cool. We definitely have only done it one time. Don't get us wrong.

We're not out here tripping shrooms at every show. Definitely not. Definitely not. But definitely. Will I do it again? Maybe for sure. I'll probably do it again What date will it be? We don't know.

We're gonna roll the motherfucking dice, dude. It sounds like you guys... Maybe we can go on tour together. You know? I would look at the scene in person. There you go. You guys heard it. You love to see it in person on tour with us.

Yeah, man, they're fucking playing like shit right now. They don't say that they were good. Did they really think this was acceptable? They're just like, it's off tour. They're like, you're off the tour. Get the fuck out of you. How did it sound? Honestly, great.

Yeah, like, it felt good, like, sound like, yeah. Like, it was just like, I feel like you're more in it. You know what I mean? Like, you're just like, you're just kind of, because it's, it's all muscle memory. So regardless of the way that you're feeling, your body's still just doing it. Because, like, I mean, we're at this point, like, how far were we into tour? Like, I mean, probably, like, two or three weeks into it already. So you're already just like, I feel like, regardless of how fucked up you are, in my opinion,

as soon as like the set starts I feel like my body at least just kind of just goes into like you know what I mean like I'm not really like present you know what I mean it's just like it's just a thing that I do now you know like and it's just I feel like it's like muscle memory every time yeah and I

I mean I enjoy it for sure you know but I feel like just being on Shrooms just made the visuals more fuck than anything you know that would freak me out everyone's looking at us this is weird they won't Stop looking at us. You just got a picture them all in their underwear.

You should explain all this to me. That's fucking sick. I've done ayahuasca with two ceremonies. I've only microdosed mushrooms like twice. And everybody before on had like a mushroom trip. Micro dosing's fun though. It's like a little like chill vibes, dude. That's a sick.

But I can imagine that being more. And then we're trying to play a riff. Right. How are your ayahuasca experiences? Oh, great. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard only good things about my awesk.

Right. I've heard they're intense, but like they're very liberating. Yes, yes. I'm trying not to speak too much on it. But I go, you know, a lot of people, they have like what they call like the personal hell or they have like the blissful where everything is like, oh, like, amazing. I love everybody. I had, I had both of those multiple occasions. I go there purposely to like, I want it.

I want the personal hell. Right. It's like, I drove all this way, I'm doing all this shit. You need to see some shit. Get me. Get it out. Give me, give me the shit. Yeah.

And it's funny. And you're, I guess every ceremony is different. I don't know, we, we do, like, weekend trips. Yeah. And my first trip was I had the personal hell. And then the next day, I had the blissful. Oh, wow. And I went home and I didn't like it.

I'm like, so man, I wish I just had the personal hell. hell and just went home. Yeah. You know, because the blissful is great. I'm not, for me, everyone's different. And I'm not telling you to go do it. But for me, I go there to see the hell. I don't need to be reminded that I love my family.

I love my friends. And it's being a person. I kind of, I kind of could do it. That's a thing that you know already. I could kind of be at home and have like some coffee. And I really think about that. Yeah. But to go deeper, I kind of want the hell.

Yeah, to try to dig the demons out for sure. I get what you're saying. Exactly. So when I went like the second time, I got lucky. I had like the personal hell right out of the gates. I'm like, I'm out. Yeah. I don't want to stay tomorrow days and I have like the blissful estate ruin my.

Right. You're just got through for sure. But some people go because they want the blissful. I guess this is what you want. Yeah. I think there is like a for some people, there's like a rule book. So people told me don't leave, don't leave. I'm like, I'm like, I'm leaving.

I don't like, I don't like rule books. Whatever it works for you, man. When you face your demons, at least try to, man, the outcome is just so undeniable. You know, you come out like a different person, you know? Right. And that's what I find interesting about. I kind of want to do it for sure.

In general, it's just like you learn lessons and weird, like, little things that you may have not known you needed to learn. Yeah. I felt pretty cleansed after we fucking did those shrooms and that, when I told you, when I told you that I was fucking... That was an intense hotel trip. Yeah. We watched Gremlins.

That's a fucking movie to watch when you're tripped. I like tripped on like the other second half because there was like two separate types of shrooms that we got and one of them was like scary looking

and the other ones were just like regular shrooms like they looked normal but like we took like the scary looking ones one night at a hotel and I just remember like sitting there and looking at Jacob and I was like this is way more intense

than I originally wanted to do dude like I'm going through it right now. Just sitting on the edge of the bed. I was like, just like breathe it out, just like, oh man, like, this is just,

I looked at it. I looked at it. I looked at you and I was like, is this ever going to go away? It's going to last forever. I'm fucked. You were literally like, I just didn't sign up for this.

And I was like, you literally did. You literally signed up. I literally, as a joke, I was like, I want to see God. And I legit almost fucking saw God.

Like, I was just like, oh, this is so fucking intense. Oh, he's fucking hands. Sick. He's awesome.

Okay, well, speaking of being on mushrooms and God, do you ever, when you're in that stage, you ever think about dying or what, or what happens when you die? I've literally battled this, like, topic in my head just even when I'm not tripping. You know what I mean? I feel like it's just like, I don't want to believe that it's just black. You know what I mean? But I also, like, I feel like there might be something. I just don't know what it is.

And I don't know. Like it's like it's hard for me to like put my finger on it But I also You know what I mean? I might just be in denial that it's not just black You know what I mean? But I also feel like energy is dispersed And it has to go somewhere

Like it's just like I feel like consciousness just can't evaporate Yes Yeah Yeah I put it same way I think you go And I think your energy just just goes somewhere else Right I feel like it and it's like I don't think that it's like

There's like a heaven or there's like a hell You know I think that like That's just like what you make it You know what I mean And like your energy just kind of like it'll just end up wherever it's supposed to end up. I got a take on hell. I want your guys' opinions on it.

One, I think when you have unresolved issues and you die, I mean, they call it plain English demons. Right. So if you don't handle them, or at least you don't have the... You got to pay for it eventually. When you go, it's like, oh, shit, it always fucking comes up. And that could definitely... That makes sense to me.

Kind of fathom, like, that could be a hell. That's something that you've just locked away for so long. And it comes out. Yeah, like whenever you finally... die you have to face that. That's actually fucking, I've never heard of. You like, relive your life, but you're reliving your moments of hell, reliving your demons, reliving

and if you've been cleansed, maybe you don't fucking deal with that, and that's what, that's interesting. Yeah, I mean, I kind of believe that hell is, like, physically what you make it. Like, it's what you make it. It's in this moment, because I've, I've felt where I felt like I was in hell with no escape, no answer, yeah, like with nothing

but just dissolution and yeah, and just despair. Yeah. Yeah. We're not there anymore. That ass, you know? Right before I joined this band, that's where I was at, bro. You guys know, like, fucking, it was literally right before I joined this band, this band, like, I definitely saved my life, dude.

Really? For sure. I was, like, homeless. You're homeless? I was homeless, dude. And, like, I was literally, like, living out of this Jeep that I had. And, like, I mean, I fucking was, like, at an extended state motel. Like, right, like, whenever he came and, like, got me or whatever, I was, like, at this chick's house.

And he came and picked me up or whatever. And then I joined the band and then I moved in with the drummer. And that's what pulled me out of like that fucking hole I was in for like a year and a half. Unbelievable. Yeah. It was fucked. That's what I'm saying. It's like this band 100% turned my life around like immediately.

Like it was like it was literally like this like like one day and the next day my life is different. Yeah. It's like you have like purpose. Yeah. I could direct my focus like this thing. Yeah. And I wasn't living at an extended day anymore anymore. more and I had something to focus on.

You know what I mean? Like I had like people around me who actually cared about me. And it wasn't just me. Like I felt like it was really just like me against the world for like that year and a half where I was just like biting it, dude. Yeah. Damn. It was fucked.

It was not fun at all, dude. But, you know, like I said, hell is what you make it, dude. It is. For sure. What a trip. I've done a little bit studying with like the deathbed literature. And it's a pretty common thing. like regret

it's pretty common so we have unsolved things that then I mean that in itself is a hell yeah right for sure I try to like you know not if I if I either say I'm wrong about something and there's a guy I just or do anything

I got to do it because I don't want to die with that like oh shit you got that monkey on your back you know what I mean yeah I feel you yeah but I do I didn't know you're homeless yeah holy shit that was a fuck situation dude. I like, because I, well, I, like, got kicked out of college because I went to go play college football. and I got kicked out and my, I mean, I'm not like

mad at my fucking mom or anything, but like she was just like, if you're not going to college, you can't fucking live here. You know what I mean? So like after that I was just like, well, fuck, what am I supposed to do?

And I was like kind of couch surfing until that like didn't work anymore. You know what I mean? And then I'm just like sleeping in my Jeep and going to fucking local shows and like, you know, trying my best to like put things together

and I would like try to hold on a job. It's like hard to hold on a job whenever you can't fucking, you know it's just fucked and then like you know that's what I'm saying like literally like that whole time like I was just like I felt like it was really just like me just fighting to like figure something out you know what I mean and then they fucking showed up and it was just like oh you know what I mean thank God there it is dude like fucking something that I can like do because I was like just like you know you go from one day you're like a college athlete you know what I mean and you're like

your whole life feels like it's taken care of to like you have nothing. You know what I mean? Like it's like in a base of a week. Yeah. And so like I, and I dude at the time, I was like night. I was like, what? I was 20 when I joined the band, right?

So yeah, I was 19. You know what I mean? Like fucking just trying to figure shit out. Like, and like just driving around having nothing, like no money, no nothing. Like, and it was just, it was hard for a minute until I fucking figured out that I was like, oh, music's cool. And then I, you know, slithered into the local scene, met these dudes. and then fucking we just, you know,

having to hit in the fucking shit ever since, dude. Thankful for him every day, dude. Damn, what a blessing. We gang initiated you too. Good ass. They curbs not me. That's what happened. Yeah, dude, no.

Yeah, no. But that was the whole thing, yeah. I like, sometimes I forget about it, you know what I mean? Where I'm just like, wow, that's the thing that happened. But, you know, it is what it is. Kind of did it to myself at the end of the day. Well, I mean, for you, that's such, like, a learning experience. Like, you have such a, like,

a perspective on your life and have something to compare it to you like a date they say that like the worst thing you've been through is the worst thing that you've been through is the fact that you know what it's like and not have shit yeah it's it's very i think that's that's that's very healthy yeah you know yeah i definitely it made me like just i mean because when i joined the band i mean they can attest i like i was just like not mentally put together as an adult you know what i mean you're probably not still still not you know what i mean that's what i'm saying but like it's just like a, but it forced me to like be thankful for things that I have, right? Because like if you like you don't have anything, like the things that you do have

are way more valuable to you. You know, because you're, you know what it's like to not have any of those things like available to you on a daily basis. So yeah, that's definitely like one thing that I, you know, everything that we do, I'm like super fucking hyped on it. Yeah. It's because, you know, the blink of an eye, bro, you could be taking showers and public fountains.

Wow. Damn, dude. Yeah. Well, I mean, that definitely explains your commodity and how close you are as, like, a band. It really, it really explains that, you know? We brothers, dude, for real. She runs deep. I could see it with you guys, and I can definitely feel it.

It's cool. Hell, yeah. You guys are a real band. Holy shit. Yeah, dude. Sometimes. Oh, yeah. You either either love him or he's like you fucking hate each other.

Yeah. I love that, dude. I fucking love that. It's that real brother shit. Yeah. Fuck that guy. Yeah. I love you.

Nobody else say fuck you to them, though. You know? You suck. You suck. Let's work it out. It's working out. Working out the brain. So what's next for you guys?

So we got a little run in December that we're about to fucking announce with the Pond of Burning Body in Texas, right? Did I say that already? I said in December in Texas. Yes. Texas in December. Okay.

Yeah, and then we have a, we have an LP written that I want to show you a couple songs off of it. Okay, please. But it's like, because like I think that you're going to be like, oh, wow, this is like really different and like better for y'all. Yeah. But, yeah, we have like a whole thing done with Matt Thomas who did like the new spite and Darko shit.

Oh, great. Yeah, so. It's some of the best shit we've done. Fat mixes, clear as fuck. Like, probably some, like, literally like some of the best shit that we are the best shit that we've done for sure. Point blank period. We've never been this hype to put me.

Like every, in my opinion, every single song on the new LP puts all of the other songs to shame that we've put out to this point. Even the weakest song, and I don't even know what the weakest song is. It's hard to put a finger on it. It's like, it's interesting. And I'm usually like way overly like, you know what I mean about like stuff that we write. Yeah, same. Like sometimes I'm just like, ah, the song's, you know, like whatever. Yeah.

It's how I thought about anger before we put it out, dude. but inch, yeah, I feel you, man. That's our biggest song now. It happens, dude. It happens. Me and you were both like, yeah, like bottom two. Yeah, I was just like, I don't know. Man, this one fucking sucks.

But, yeah, like, I don't have that feeling about any of the songs. Which is fucking wild to me. That's great. It's the first time with live drums, too. Oh, yeah, true. Yeah, and he fucking crushed that shit. That's awesome. We have like a blast beat kind of ass song or whatever,

and that, dude, how many times does it take you? track it twice I did it in like 17 minutes yeah dude the whole song like literally like like like like yeah like two takes it sounds sick it's gonna be so dope it's crazy so did you do uh this LP after you recorded those three songs yeah yeah it's a pretty separate back wow so what are you doing with those other two songs so we're just gonna release them as like standalone singles they're gonna be like basically just radio push songs cool so like we're trying to like kind of dabble over there see how it is. You know, dude, like music self-expressive.

You can do whatever the fuck you want. You know what I mean? And so we were just like, fuck it. We'll just write these three songs and get out some different wiggles or whatever. They're just going to be standalone singles. And then we have like a whole LP that's like its own thing. We had like an incredibly good time running those three songs. We're going to probably go back for sure.

But we're going to do more heavy shit too. Yeah. Like we're just simultaneously. We're going to do both. What a trip. Yeah, we're just basically going to give everybody whiplash forever. That's so interesting. Yeah.

Holy. Because people like, because it's crazy, like we've built a fan base that literally is split in half. Like, we have people who fuck with, like,

the choruses and, like me singing instead. And then we have, like, the other kids who are like, just go, uh, the whole time.

You know what I mean? Like, it's just like, so it's cool that we have, like, literally two different routes where we can just go, pshshshshsh,

and finally simultaneously just keep, like, you know what I mean? And what their track record of our music, too, it's just like, we kind of throw into an element

of like unpredictability where it's like we just kind of just write whatever we want to what we're feeling so like

yeah and I guess maybe from like a fans perspective it's just kind of like oh what are they gonna do next like who knows

right and like when we're rolling out the release for our dying forever it's like we definitely gave that vibe but doing like the rap metal song

then like a death court song and then a more like sea song yeah still pretty heavy but like literally

like what we're about to do like we literally just really just release Snake which is like You know, radio, like, fucking has, like, a good chorus, right? And then, like, the next song we're about to put out is, like, heavy. Probably, like, one of the heaviest songs we've ever written.

Wow. It's just, like, belligerent, like, shah-da-da-da-da-da-da. Like, the whole, like, it's fucked. It's fucking sick, though. And then there's just some breakdowns, dude, and some gutterls. You know what I mean, dude? Some real fucking whir. You guys are peeping your own way.

It's fucking badass. We're just doing whatever we want to do, dude. It's fucking badass. All right. Well, where can people find you guys? on everything we're on YouTube fucking Spotify we're a little at left to suffer on

all fucking social media I think it's like at left to suffer US on Twitter yep and uh yeah we're on YouTube Apple Music Spotify we're just left to suffer verified motherfucker verified holy she guys are fucking on top

we got my fucking blue checkmark now we really have been left to suffer yeah we got blue check marks and shit now so like we don't care now just like I'm just like I'm just kidding. I love everybody. I love you, dude.

All right, everyone. That's it. Later. Oh, yeah.