Garza Podcast - 58: 'Tis the Season of Boy Bands & Breakdowns

Episode Date: December 26, 2022

Garza & Zack the Kid talk about what they want for Christmas, The Big 6 & much more! SPONSORS: distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! emgpickups.com Promo Code: Heavy 15% OFF! TIME CODES: 00:00 - Intro 00:55 - Jinjer & POD 08:24 - What does Garza want for Christmas? 15:56 - How to not be a piece of shit 21:04 - Driving on edibles 26:31 - The Suicide Silence rap song 32:33 - Exhumed & great gifts 33:55 - Racist AI & FN Meka 46:11 - The Big 6 52:46 - Will Ramos & Mitch Lucker 58:35 - The Grinch might make you stop speeding

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Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Almost there. Happy holidays. Happy holidays, guys. Yeah. Thank you, Austin, for the eggnog. Of course.

Thank you for. Appreciate it. Mm-hmm. Oh, my goodness. That spiked for sure. Oh, wow. Definitely. So we need to introduce our new face.

Awesome. Thank you for helping us and being a part of our Christmas episode, Christmas hangouts. I appreciate this, man. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's pretty dope. You'll be awesome. We'll be pulling up random videos helping us basically telling me not to suck. Yeah.

Appreciate that, man. Which will be a lot. Yeah. Oh, of course. No. Cool. No, you're lovely. Last time I saw Ginger.

Holy shit. Dude, how was that? It was insane, dude. Yeah. It was incredible. I can use the word incredible. Man, they're such a great band. They are.

I just gotta give them a shout out because, I mean, it's fresh. It was last night. It was at the Wiltern legendary venue in Los Angeles. And, you know, classic LA, penny, you park and you pay $30 bucks for parking. So you're already paying money before you've been walking. So you have high expectations. Yeah, if I'm paying $30 for parking, this is going to be a sick show. Has to be.

Oh, my goodness. What is the most you ever pay for parking? Probably downtown Disney. Paid like, what was it, like $66 or something like that? It was $66 for me. Really? Yeah. My goodness, dude.

It was a lot. Yeah. I think, yeah, so-fi was for me. It was like $60 or something. Yeah, any of those stadiums, too. Like Bank of California when I went to an office. Fest was pretty high. I think it was like $50.

Man, where does that money go? Just straight into someone's pocket. Man, it should go in my pocket. What fuck, dude? Your boy did you need some more egg knock. Isn't that like a funny concept? Like, oh, pay me to let, to like allow you to like leave your car in this spot. Yeah.

And an empty lot. Give me money for that. Exactly. Like a weird concept. It's like I paid a 30 bucks. I expect to put it in an order for like two drinks. Right. Okay, so I'm getting two drinks and return?

Oh, it's just a fucking park your car here. Do I at least get like a bumper sticker like something? Something. There's nothing. You get a receipt. So that's something. You can keep that. Yeah.

Yeah. Put that on your wall for parking. Yeah. We saw malevolence. Fantastic. Love that band. And Ginger was incredible. Oh, yeah.

Incredible. How was a POD? Because I've seen them live and they're incredible as well. PODD was awesome. Our previous drummer, Alex, is playing drums with POD. Yeah. Random. Yeah, that's so sick.

So I went there to hang out with him and his family was there. We're all hanging out. Oh, dude, that's cool. It was sick. And I was just, you know, just watching Alex. I'm like, damn, you're POD right now. This is crazy. That's so cool.

I'm stoked for him, man. Stoke for him. It's good, man. It's killing. You want to see your friends succeed. 100%. Yeah. Got to see your friends win.

Yeah, you know, we got lucky, you know, we fucking. and split on good terms, friends. I'm so glad you guys are still cool. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, you don't want to find out drama when you wake up and go online. Is that, wait, that's going on right now? It's the last thing you want.

Fucking sit in her room, talk it out, you know? Yeah, and, you know, most of the time that works. Yeah. You just talk like adults, use your words, you know what I mean? And, yeah, you guys hug it out, and then you're still friends at the end of it. That's great. Yeah.

And, you know, Alex is my brother. You know, so many fucking band rides and planes. Oh, I can imagine. You guys are like literally like blood at this point. It's a lot of history. Yeah. Yeah, he's my, he's my bean brother. I love that.

God, he used to piss me off, dude. He was a painy ass. Drummers. As a drummer, I can confirm we're a pain in the ass for sure. Yeah, man he ass, dude. Now Ernie's a painy ass. It's because we're carrying around too much, like, equipment. So we naturally just have this.

Like chip on our shoulder about it. Yeah, so you took it out on the rest of the guy. Oh, yeah. Okay. We're like, oh, you didn't help me load in my hardware case. Perfect. God, fucking stuff. That's awesome.

Dude, eight nine is fucking sick. This is my first time trying it. It's lovely. Very underrated drink, right? Yeah. This is a, because I was thinking, okay, like, this is coming out day after Christmas, so pretty much still Christmas, 26. So Merry Christmas

Everybody I was like, what do people drink? What's like the like the festive drink? Yeah. You know, I guess it's egg nog. Yeah, man, it's good It's very underrated drink. I'm not like milk.

So it's funny that I like eggnog. Don't like milk? I'm not a milk guy. What about cheese? Love cheese. But cheese is milk. Yeah. It's like, okay, so hear me out, right?

Yeah. It's like mayo. So mayo by itself, don't like it. But if you mix it with anything else, whether it be like that was an island, aoli, tuna. You know what I mean? Anytime you make something with mayo, it's good. By itself, not so much.

That is true. It's more of an ingredient than like a product by itself. Yeah, it's like I know people that don't like tomatoes. I'm kind of one of them, but salsa's amazing ketchup. Exactly. Yeah, pizza. Pizza? Oh, that's, I mean, that, what's that sauce called?

Marinera sauce, right? That's, exactly. That's essentially like tomato. Tomato puree, pretty much, yeah. Yeah, so this is, yeah, dairy. Yeah, dairy is weird. Yeah. So it's milk and egg, is egg in this or no?

There's an egg in it for sure. There's egg in this for sure. Yeah. That's what gives like the frothy texture. Hence, it's like eggnog. It's like egg whites. Like, have you ever had a whiskey sour where they actually use eggnog when they mix it? I've seen it, though, no.

Was it? or egg white? Egg white. Yeah. That's your eggnog. Well, they use egg whites. Yeah. And eggnog.

Yeah. So like whiskey sour is really cool. Like, or any cocktail that uses egg whites, because when they shake it up, they strain it through like a very thin strainer and it gives it this foamy flavor. Yeah. Like, they give it to you in that fancy highball glass, like, and it gives it more like kind of refined flavor. Sick. Yeah. Well, I'm glad this drink exists.

I'm liking it so far. I feel like it's Christmas. I got my shitty hat. Got my shitty CBS Santa hat. Yeah. I got a white shirt, insecure about it. You got to rock white sometimes.

White just shows off the... You're fat. So that's what... It doesn't hide the figure. Oh, trust me. There's the reason why I wear black most of the time. Oh, totally, dude. Like the fact that there's a table makes you feel secure.

Right. So people aren't seeing what... You're not seeing like, except for that, that wide angle right there. Don't use the white angle, then on this one. Don't use the white angle,

come it out. Oh my goodness. What are you, yeah, what do you want for Christmas, Zach? See, I don't, I'm not the kind of person

where I ask for a lot. Like, for me, it's more about, like, seeing my friends and seeing family. Like, I'm more of,

like, an experience kind of guy. Yeah. As long as I see the people I love, I don't care about presents. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? So that would be,

for me, seeing all the people I care about. Yeah. You know. That's a good one. Austin. What do you want for Christmas? What is your 30-year-old soul?

I'm the same way as Zach. I don't think I've asked for anything since I was probably 14 years old. I've always enjoyed the whole like thing of giving more than receiving. Yeah. If I had asked for one thing, an underpriced avocado for once. Okay. Nice. An avocado doesn't cost $8.

Yeah, there's a shortage of avocados. Yeah, there really is. Yeah. It's crazy. That turkey shortage thing that was going on for the longest time, I don't know if it's still going on, was crazy. There's a bunch of weird shortages. You know that, like, a syracha is the short,

like you don't see saracha in stores anymore. Yeah. Saracha eggs, too. Yeah. Went to the sounds club. It was like there was no eggs there. Like, that's so crazy. There's no eggs.

Eggs are such a big component in cooking. And you don't really think about it until it's actually taken away. Yeah. And in Costco, which you see, I'm sure if you guys have Costco memberships, their egg count is like 80 per carton, all gone. Empty. Yeah, I guess it's the holidays. Everyone cooks with eggs.

Yeah. Yeah. True. But I was like, damn. And I went there like a few days later too. I'm like, where were the eggs at? They still weren't there. So I went to Vaughn or some.

Yeah, I noticed you have to go to the price of your spots when it comes to shortages. Yeah. Hey, Rousservants. And you got to get the more expensive ones. Yeah. The all, yeah, the, um, free range, organic eggs for sure. Yeah. I woke up today very, uh, we're not, we're not going to bring it down, but very emotional, but in like a good way.

Yeah. You know when you see like a good, a great band or just honest, you, you just feel good. Mm-hmm. And, you know, who's that knows I'm old and I'm fucking, I, I, I get tired at 8 p.m. I want only to bed. So to go to a show is difficult Like I want to stay up And try to hang out with people after the show

I'm like oh god I have fucking after it But it's lit up You had to This like second wind I'm like Fucking midnight I'm wide awake

And there's like this It's rare but you know when a band connects It's like damn There's something special to that Definitely And it makes you think about your life Oh man It's very like sick

And then went home Woke up today Went to a gym And so I just listening to Ginger, like, damn, these guys are fucking guys and women. It's phenomenal. So it gave you like an introspective view on things. Yeah. And this randomly came up to, you know, you get like random thoughts.

I was like, I thought about like, you know, what? You know, people ask you. I was like, I thought, you know, what do I want for Christmas? You know, kind of like sat there. I'm like, what do I want? So I'm pretty lucky. Like I have, my parents are still alive. I'm alive.

I got food, water at home. I got a roof a bed got a cat I got my lovely girlfriend that's extremely supportive I got all these things Only I don't have Currently is a I don't have good financials. I guess you could say But it's we're all struggling in our own way especially when it comes like the money and and inflation going on currently But it's like it's like but even thinking about that was like I don't want money It's not it's not what I want it's not it's not what I want it's not it's not it's not what I want it's It's what's going to get me the money, which is like, you know, I was just like, what I want for Christmas is just guidance.

Right. And guidance from whatever you believe in and the strength to endure those lows and to give you a clear head just to keep going. Right. You know? I just want like some some guidance and whoever's paved in the road in the spiritual world, I guess. You know, it's just giving guidance, strength to endure a little bit longer. So for you, it's like more about having like a good mindset is really what you want. Like having like a positive outlook on life.

Yeah. So you want more of like a spiritual enrichment rather than like a financial enrichment. at this point right now. Sure. Because, I mean, you know, I see money come and go, you know, and it's funny like this stuff. It's funny because your brain, because we're wired to be attracted to money. It's just what it is. And our job is humans.

We're capitalistic society. Yes. And our job as humans is to stop that process and not let it define you, you know. But, you know, I'm aware that, like, even if you want money and it's all, you want, it's like, that won't really, that won't really get me anywhere. It's like, what's going to get me the money? You know, it's like, I mean, the money's going to come as, as, regardless.

I mean, it's, it's coming. But, but the path to get there, I just, I just want the path. I just, give me, like, you know, just guide me. I'm, I'm, I'll put in the work, you know, just give me a clear head, you know. Yeah, I mean, as far, for me is like, as far as making money, Yeah, I'm the same way. Like, I value, like, the experience of, like, the success versus, like, the actual money itself. So, like, if I'm having fun while I'm making the money, I would actually rather make less money as long as I'm, like, really truly enjoying it.

And I'm getting, like, you know, an experience out of it that I'm going to remember, you know, later down the line. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think that's way more important than, like, trying to, like, get rich quick or something like that. Totally. Yeah. I was like, shit, that's what I want. And luckily, I guess that's free.

I mean, there's things you could do, you know, go out walking, meditate to kind of tap into that kind of stuff. Yeah. You know, it's free. Yeah, it's like, I was like going to the beach because that's pretty much free. As long as you can find free parking. And like literally all you have to do is walk around and enjoy the view and the breeze and stuff. It's awesome.

Dude, totally. And, yeah, so that's what I'm on for Christmas. I was like, you get older. I'm 37. I say that a lot. Like, it just gets less material. Yeah, you don't really ask for as much, right? As you get older.

People ask you to you, like, what do you want? I'm like, I don't. Yeah. Shampoo? Socks. Champo conditioner will be fucking sick. Yeah. A carton of eggs. Yeah, I feel like you start thinking more practically, like, well, if I could have, like,

extra shampoo, then I won't have to go to the store. And now save me time. And now see me money. Yeah. And a hassle. You start thinking more practically versus like materialistically. Yeah. You know, and also to wrap that up, you know, I also want the tools to not this to be less of a piece of shit.

Hey. I mean. If that, if that makes sense, you know. Yeah. Can you, can you dive in further on that? You know, we, we're not strong all the time. time. Okay.

You know, you have weak moments. I'm not saying, I don't think I'm, I'm not as well or anything, but, you know, you just, you just want to, you know, life is growth. Mm-hmm. And I think you just, you're just not strong all the time or the most of the time is want to be this less of a piece of shit, which equals to go deeper in that, you go, you know, be a better listener, you know, be, that, not ties into me, be more focused, being your best self or other people's, yeah.

had the ability to learn when they're talking to you and ask you for advice and yeah um deal with your shit when you're alone so when you're around the people that you care about you're you're there and you don't you don't have that extra shit it's just yeah so it's like uh every day you wake up basically you want to be a better version of yourself yes yeah the previous day yeah in other words yeah yeah yeah totally it's crazy how that excuse me that that journey never ends it's no yeah there's always room for growth no matter what yes i mean the main i mean the main minute that you honestly think that you're perfect, that's when complete arrogance and ignorance takes over. And then that's when you're legitimately a piece of shit, like, by definition,

just because nobody's perfect. No. That's just how you lose all sense of empathy. You lose all sense of just like mindfulness towards anybody because you just think that everything revolves around you and at the same time you don't need to try anymore. Yeah. But it's also interesting that you, I feel like you're discrediting yourself a little bit because, which is fine because that shows that you have modesty, but how you said that you want to be a better listener. From the episodes of this podcast that I've seen, what I really like about your presence in this room with all your guests is you let them talk a lot, like you do. You really listen to what they have to say.

And then when you do respond, you're responding with this sense of like you heard every single word that they said. And that takes a lot. So I find it interesting that you feel like you could be a better listener when at least from what I've seen from even just your podcast, you succeed pretty, you succeed pretty well at it. Appreciate that. You know, real quick about listening, my personal definition of listening is, which is already hard. Listening is a typical task. You have to it is a practice.

But what's helped me and made this, can you share my experience, maybe my help whoever is listening. is that when you listen, even when you're attempting to listen and doing your best, you, first, your brain is you don't want to listen. Second, you start to listen, and then your brain is putting

what is being said to you through your life filter. So your response is kind of through your filter, which is fine. It's better than not listening. And what I really try to practice is take out my life. I take out like that filter. So what I just take this in in the purest form that I might have the ability to access in that moment because they're all different, you know, and not spuel back my whole life back at him.

It's just like I really heard what you said, try to give you a clear perspective. And then when it's time to share my experience and time to like that adds to the conversation or adds to their life, I try to give them like, like, like. a clean filter. So I try to receive it in clean filter and then put it out the same. It's hard. Yeah. So you're basically listening to them with no bias, which I guess would mean that you're versus just listening, you're like truly understanding them.

I guess is the differentiation right there. Yeah. Like I have to, I won't name them, but I have a couple of band members that actually do listen pretty well, but I could tell they just throw back. They put it through their filter. And they're really good. They're smart, intelligent people. but I could automatically tell

like you just put it through your filter and then gave him gave him back your basically whole life. Their version of what you just said basically. Yeah, that makes sense. Do you think that that is a more so,

do you think that maybe that's a way of them kind of showing empathy? Like, hey, listen, I know exactly what you're going through because I've actually gone through something similar because I feel like that's a word at least for me like when people will talk to me about stuff. I don't want them to ever think. like, oh, I'm already having something in the chamber ready to just talk at them at.

It's more so like, no, like I'm more so saying this just because I can relate to you on this level. You know? Yeah. Sometimes, yeah, it is like that. It's a hard thing. It's a, it's an everyday practice. Yeah. It's just one of those things.

It's like, I think if you're doing your best listen, I think you're already ahead of the curve, which ties in. So obviously, you know, I was debating this month that we were even going to do a podcast. this week and the next week because it's holidays. I'm like, do people even watch or listen to, because with their families or fly? I was like, you know, fuck it, dude. For those of you're listening and watching, like, these next two weeks are for you and we're going to push it out.

And it's, it's the holidays. I mean, it's Christmas. Yeah. It's Christmas. And then I think something that people just don't really think about is little things. You know, I mentioned, like, I don't want to be a piece of shit. You know, it's just less of, less than one.

It's like, little things. to you like when you're out driving out there dude is this people drive so rude yeah during the holidays you know I noticed that the past few weeks I mean every time go out I'm okay what's someone I mean I mean I was involved in a hit and run last week you know just people people people are in I mean it's best case scenario it just took up my my bumper and it's fine so my car still works great just looks like shit right but it's just the point of that

shouldn't even happen yeah I mean, you, you, you could just tell that people are just in a hurry, like, my pet peeve. Like, they're just a little more selfish than usual, right? Yeah. It's like, my pet peeve is selfishness. Use your blinker. It's like a basic thing, right? You guys probably do it too.

I'm pitched already. Oh, no, I do. Use your blinker. I'm so big on that. It's literally a finger move. Yeah. It's all it is. It's just like, do poop.

And people are this. fucking sweeping in and out the freeway. Yeah. It's like, man, you're driving a fucking death machine on wheels. People don't realize how dangerous what they're doing is. Exactly. How dangerous driving is. If you don't, uh, never mind.

Don't listen to what I'm about to say. This is, I'm sharing experience. Don't do what I do. But like years ago, like I was driving back home from Long Beach and I took like a edible. So I was ugly high. I was like, I'm driving. This is. Yeah.

sketchy sounds terrifying you're driving that sounds so scary do you just driving I'm saying if you know you're a little bit more alert and focused but

yeah man all these fucking people I don't know I don't know who the fuck they are right you know you're just driving it's casually too it's like you don't think about

you're listening to music or a fucking or a podcast you're on a phone and you're just driving 60 to 80 miles an hour in his fucking death trap and wheels and you see like

there's always a couple assholes like they're just we're in front of you fucking you're like wow okay cool yeah

like that is so fucked up yeah because they're not considering anybody else on the road no no that's

that's horrible and I really love to see less of that during the holidays yeah especially now with like your social media

like yesterday I was just on Instagram like just looking at like I saw like a few a few crashes because I like to remind myself

of what's out there this I like okay I'll see a few crashes okay I got up fucking be careful when I'm out, you know. No, exactly. But yeah, just, you know, be, you know, be respectful.

And we're out shopping, you know, just be a little bit more cool. Yeah. Don't do the Black Friday thing where you tackle each other for a toaster. Little things. And we all have access to that. Yeah. You know. Everybody can be a good person if they want to be, you know.

It's not like it's impossible. Yeah. It's all about effort. Effort, yep. It's about wanting to be a good person. Yeah, it's just weird how we're fucking wired. It's just, you just don't go there automatically. You just don't like.

Well, you know, we're in our own body. So I think it is, you know, to be fair, it is natural to be a little bit selfish because after all, it's your life. You have to live it. But, you know, you got to think we're on this planet with 8 billion other people. We're sharing it.

And with other animals. too let alone that so it's like we got to share this thing we got to like you know be mindful of each other yeah you know it's just basic like common sense kind of stuff we're trying to spread positivity right now i try to be positive man through through to the power of eggnog through the power of eggnog the power of eggnog maybe it's giving us the positivity maybe it might be uh yeah or might be just make you more depressed yeah yeah guys you you can be in the metal scene and be a positive person Just PSA. 100%.

Just want to throw that out there. Yeah. Kind of like what you were saying, though. Like, I've always found it extremely weird when people be like, when, like, for example, that, was it P-22? That Wildcat. That they just took out. It's like, but we're in its habitat, too. Like, we built buildings and a society and a community around what it was already living in.

So when people are like, oh, but there's bobcats up in the hills. It's their fucking house. Yeah, we're in, it's when we're in like someone else's house. Yeah. It's like you just have to learn how to share. It is always funny when like people live in the mountains and they're like, there was a bear in my backyard. And it's like, no, you put your house in their front yard. Their front yard, exactly.

Yeah. So, you know, you have to deal with that when you live out there. Pretty much, yeah. Real quick, I was actually going to do this in the front of the episode, but I fucked up. real quick so I am well aware that of the Suis Fat Silent song

that's on Spotify right now I'm well aware of it you guys have an emo rap song out I guess we went full auto tune rap apparently it was fire bro I liked it you're getting like

you know I'm getting to like the text and people are tagging me in this so if I look and it's like oh great apparently this is a problem I've been seeing it happen to other bands too. Like, uh, which is the worst time for this to happen because, you know, everyone at the label is, they're on a holiday. Yeah. And so it got to them a few days later and then they reported, but of course, are at people at Spotify.

They're also. It's the worst time for this to happen. It's crazy. But we're well aware of it and, uh, obviously it's not us. But you know what? I gave it, you know, I listen. Yeah. Check out.

You know, if this was us, we'll probably make more money. You guys might want to drop an emo rap project, I'm just saying. So, wait, what was that? I am so out of the loop right now. Someone called their band Suicide songs. Really? Uploaded the song. And it's on our shit.

It's like a straight, like auto tune, like R&B rap song. Like Spotify, Apple, it's up there. Oh, see, initially from what I was, when I was hearing this, in the conversation. I thought that somebody had covered a song of your guys. They just named themselves suicide silence and it made its way onto the Spotify page. What idiot. That's fucking rude.

Obviously it's done on purpose. There's no way that's an accident. Idiot. Yeah, that's a crazy thing to do. I mean, at the same time, you got to keep mind, like, you know, if somebody's not out or not into the metal scene and very much, again, like in their own world, they may not even know that a band like that exists, which you would think that they would already research, but, you know, because I remember back,

do you remember the band era? Yeah, of course. I remember when Jesse did a side project and he initially named it, what was it called? It was some name that he named it originally, but there was a rapper that had that name already and Jesse didn't know and then he had changed a name.

That happens a lot too. Oh, Alchemist. Oh, yeah. Of course, yeah, alchemist is huge. Yeah. It's one of the biggest books ever written. Yeah. Besides the Bible. True story.

Yeah. It's also my favorite book. If anyone wants to read, check out The Alchemist, my favorite book. It's a good one. It's a nice short story. We have some idiot. It's called a Bans Tuosance. And it's Aido Tune Rap.

I love it's the opposite genre. It's crazy. That's what makes it better. Yeah. It's funny because, obviously, we put out that steptotal record, so it's like, people don't only know what we could ever do. It's like, well, they did that record. Is this really them?

I don't know. They're trying out something different. It's right now something different apparently. Yeah. Bro, that's so crazy. Oh, my. And, and, and, uh, and, and, and also, like, I forgot what I was going to say. I'm going to try and, like, just to erase it from my fucking memory.

Oh, man. That's crazy that that happened to you guys. Yeah, and, uh, it's, and some weird shit going on, like, behind the scenes, like, um, I assume it's people trying to leak your record early, but we had some situations where people were hitting up or I don't know what exactly what they're doing but people on our team are getting hit up by our producers people that worked on our record asking for for the record pretending to be someone like our manager or me oh yeah so they'll say they'll make like a fake email and pretend like they were one of the producers from the record

I've seen this happen it's insane yeah like someone like uh someone started like a s management whatever fucking email and pretending to be our manager and hit people that worked on our record like oh can you send us a cut we need an extra copy yeah yeah yes I've heard of this I've seen this happening like wow not just with you guys it's that's crazy

it's insane and then like you know I got an other email from someone I was working on the recording next level say hey they fucking forward it just just so you see what we deal with and say hey it's cars can I have a copy of the record because I was like I said what that's not me you can't even trust emails

what's even more concerning is that to have access to even knowing those people that worked in the record, that's not public knowledge. It's not like you can't fucking go on Google and be like fucking find that shit. Yeah, exactly. You had to be in the circle.

Yeah. Or part of like the label to know exactly who did what on a record and so on. The fact that they hit that person up pretending to be asking for a record what is the goal? Are they trying to leak?

it are they? I definitely think it's some kind of leak thing. They try to do that to Morgoth before with some stuff he was working on as well. Damn, dude. Yeah, scary. Wow. Really scary. You got to see on top of it. Luckily, the people that, you know,

Morgat's the smart guy, and when it works for you, they got to be on point. Yeah. You got to know. You have to be really savvy with that kind of stuff. It's like, how did he know it's? Because even with what I do, right? Because like, someone could hit me up and be like, oh, can we get another copy of the music video?

they can leak the, you know what I mean? Like there's so many scams that you can set up with that kind of, you know, model. Yeah. So it's scary. Yeah, I try to like always like, I check like the email name. I'm like that, that's not. Yeah, it's not it. It'll be like something at Yahoo and it's like that's not an official email.

So you just have to be extra careful now. Gotta be careful. Yeah. My goodness, dude. So yeah, that's been going on. Oh my goodness. Well, I want to share some. I mean, do.

Really, the way I brag, but sometimes you gotta do it. Got it. You got to do it. So, Zach, we saw Exhumed. Oh, yeah. And they gave the studio a gift. They signed skateboard by all of Exhumed. There we go.

So sick. So fucking rad. I haven't felt this cool in a long time. Dude, it's such a cool design. I felt so fucking cool, dude. They're such good guys, too. Wow, really? Thanks, dudes.

And it makes it better that it's in the shape of like an actual cruiser board. Yeah. Not just like a regular deck. The OG. Yeah. And it's a coffin. Can't beat that. It's good luck, man.

It's so good. Legends, legends in the genre. Definitely. It's crazy how a pure gift just, it just feels good. Because it's really the thought. Yeah.

It's not the value behind it or anything like that. Anyone that gives you something, I'm like, oh, wow, thank you. Holy shit. And then you're always going to remember, oh, that's after, you know, we had the exhumed podcast. So it has this like memory associated with it.

It's really cool. They're here forever. Yeah. You know? Great guys. It's fucking nuts. Well, Austin, do you have anything for us? Well, first of all.

It's going to be our first time during, doing what would you call them current events? Current events, reactions. Yeah. Yeah. All right. For sure. So what's this, Austin? Well, so.

What do we get? Research and, you know, we're in this new age and it's really. blown up, I would say, over the course of the last several months with like the, that website mid-jurney, you know, this whole AI world that we're living in. And a question that I had for you guys was being, let's say if AI really starts taking over, which it does look like it's going to be. Yeah. Do you think that it's morally right? Do you think it's overall just okay as an artist to let's say use

AI generated art that you created on your own for your album art for whatever it may be for even if you own like a skateboard company and you use it for your decks rather than hiring another artist to do the work for you

you know what I mean and have them come up with their own things not from just an AI generation by entering something into a search bar and then all of a sudden you have eight images pop up right Do you think that's... Where do you stand on that?

So there's some bands that actually had done this. They've actually used the AI art and that's going to basically be their artwork. Am I correct? I mean, from what it looks like, from what I was reading, yeah, that's what kind of bands are starting to do. But I was more so just curious like where do you guys stand on the whole...

Since we're on kind of like... It seems like we're on the threshold of really tipping into that world. Mm-hmm. Given some foresight, if it starts here, it's just going to go somewhere crazy. Sure. I think it depends on the band, really. Band or the artist.

One thing that seems by common trend, not even with metal or even music, but kind of universal subjects really seems that people always go nostalgic at some point. Yeah. So I think even worst case scenario, if the AI takes over, which I think it will. I think like the old school way of doing things will always be. Then then it'll be like, okay, let's go see this form of art because this is like the nostalgic. This is like the, because as humans, we're still fasting it by like the past. So if you're legit and you're sick as fuck, really good, then you'll, you'll last a test of time. And then there'll be the bands, if they're even bands at that point, that do this stuff.

And people will appreciate this. And then there'll be a whole, I think, scene with this. Yeah. And another thing is, like, I think AI art is really cool. But one thing that you can take away from actual illustrators is, like, the level of, like, customization and specificity that you put into each project to where it's like, yeah, I know you can give, like, detailed descriptions to the AI, but it's never going to give you like a custom artwork in the same way than an actual illustrator that has their own creativity and your own ideas can come up with.

Sure. It's never going to be on the same level. So it's like, I feel like AI art is going to work serve its purpose, but it's never, to me, going to fully replace an actual illustrator that's going to hand draw everything. Like, that's just not the same thing. Yeah. I always have a thought about like, you know, sex dolls.

They can make the perfect one, but there's always going to be something missing. That's a beautiful metaphor. It's like you can't replace the real thing. There's always going to, it could be the best, perfect, and the point where it gets kind of creepy.

Yeah. But like, which it usually does. Yeah. And there's always going to be something missing. Then you're going to crave what, what's missing. Yeah,

I definitely don't think that robots can replace everything. They're going to replace some things, but they're going to have their own place in society. I don't think it's going to completely like take over things in the way that people are kind of, in my opinion, kind of exaggerating a little bit, where that's just me. Yeah, I mean, with the AI stuff,

I mean, you could go deeper with it. Like, you're talking Spotify and Apple. I mean, there's rumors that Spotify wants to actually, to bring an income. They actually want to sign. They want more AI artists. Yeah, I've seen that. So they have more leverage for negotiating power with the splits.

So you're saying actual AI singers and rappers and the whole AI rapper already. Is there really? Yeah. But who was the AI rapper again? And they were assigned to, I believe. Something mecca, forget their name. Were they signed a Warner? Believe so.

But there was some kind of controversial. And they ended up like you know pulling the plug on it prematurely I heard it because you're a racist It might might we might need to To what check that by then what it was is they were you know they are we calling automatically AI day AI AI AI they Well here's what it is the the person who created the AI you know was like a white person and Lyrically they were using words that white people shouldn't be using so that was the whole conversey so that was the whole thing behind it

So this AI is it's the current state of AI like you Fuck like you take the information that the person is giving the AI then it makes this thing so I mean maybe the person I put in the information was for faces Yeah because you you have to kind of feed it information yeah to know what it is like so I guess that was the controversy is like are you allowed to like create an AI of like a certain race I guess that's the That was the argument. Yeah, AI rapper, drop from label, questions. So that's where it kind of gets squirrelly a little bit. Virtual rapper was fired. Yeah.

Oh, my goodness. Yeah, so basically, you know, he was, you know, rapper. Mecca. He was using, like, the N-word and stuff like that. Oh, my goodness. And that caused a lot of controversy. Jesus, man. You know.

So, why, yeah, why would he fired? Because, yeah, lyrically, it was, like, not cool, basically. Mecca, what does Mecca mean? Mecca means like the center, like the epicenter. Yeah, but I think this is a different kind of mecca because that's MECA. Yeah. There's kind of capital. Well, this is a different way to spell it.

Mecca's like a... Was this the rapper's name? Mm-hmm. Oh, okay, got it. Yeah. F-N Mecca. Got it. Okay.

Yeah. That's so much going on. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's just... That's why I'm saying it'll never fully replace the real thing. That's one great example. You know, and I agree, but at the same time, it's the same thing as like, okay, for example, the way that phones are, you know, back in the late 90s, it was an Nokia flip phone with the game's snake on it. And now it's like that or like, how's that going to go? No, I don't think Forrest will ever be an actual thing.

But that's more so why the question is like overall, do you think the liberty at using AI for album arts and things like that where you're taking away jobs? from actual artists. Is that morally, ethically? I could see where that can be a moral issue, but I guess my opinion at the same time, just being realistic, is that the people who would rather just use AI than hire an artist

who they're going to trust with their vision are probably not going to invest in the art that's worth paying, you know what I mean? Like, they're not going to fully invest into the art. So in a way, it's kind of like taking care of clients who more or less don't really care

that much about their art. Sure. Because they're just letting a computer figure it out. Oh, it's good enough. But do you think that even if you had all the money in the world, if you can get away from not paying for something? But you can't. Because an AI, no matter how perfect it can be, will never create a custom, completely custom

artwork in the same way than an illustrator will. Sure. So that's just how I look at it. For sure. You know. It's a tough. It's a man. It's only the future can tell.

Yeah. Yeah, you can go either way with that for sure. So much crazy shit's going on. Just so much. Yeah, with technology. But one thing about technology, there's always a price. 100%, you know. And then there'll be bands like us.

They're just going to write music in the room together and have people actually draw the artwork. Love it. And I'll be a whole other. I mean, there's room for everybody. even us and technology. Yeah, exactly. It just always,

it always stems back to being sick. You know, I think if AI takes over, there's a little bit of controversy with this artwork right here. I mean, and it takes like, the controversy, right, is that like it kind of like takes

other people's artwork and then remixes it, basically. That's like where the actual controversy lies. I don't like that. Yeah, so that's what a lot of people We'll have an issue. I mean, it essentially kind of is because you're taking a bunch of artists' artwork and then putting an algorithm and then it remixes it and then. But let's look at it this way.

So tattoo artists, you know, let's say American traditional, they all stem from, let's say, Sailor Jerry style tattoos. But that's all so the same. So is it plagiarism or is it still considered under the guidelines of inspiration? Right. You know what I mean? It's somewhere in the gray area for sure. Yeah. Because like on Instagram, like how many times?

have you seen, I don't know, a black and gray realism of a girl's face shattering and a tiger peeking through the shattering. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So many people have done that, but it's all inspiration, it's not plagiarism. Yeah.

Yeah, that's the thing about AI why a lot of people are arguing about is because it is a gray area because no one even knows really where do we lie? On what line are we lying, you know? Man, yeah, only time would tell. Yeah. But, yeah, it's just the best answer.

It's a, it's, it's, it is kind of it is pretty sick already and it's just beginning stages which is that's the alarming part yeah yeah I mean there's cool stuff I definitely like some AI already looks it looks pretty badass but oh I've generated like at least a thousand images already but it's like again for more of these like self-entertainment yeah exactly which is its own purpose exactly yeah we've been merging with machines for decades and this might as well to do it more as long as it's separated from your body i think it's always a key yeah yeah definitely like you know if you think like about you know nice nails

like you know using like you know scents and like machines to make like that the sound you're like you're merging on a deep level with technology yeah absolutely i mean it's it's been going on for for for decades just in like a different way and it keeps evolving and yeah and now and now we're here i'm pretty sure year when people first heard the synth, I'm like, that's not a drum set. Yeah. And now, yeah, like even bands, a lot of them just plug in directly to the PA now. They don't even have amps.

Oh my goodness. So, you know, we're in, we are living in the future technically. Yeah. It's almost weird not to have like omnosphere, at least somewhere in used in any of your songs. Yeah. Totally. My goodness. Yeah.

What else, Austin? So. So, yeah. Anyways, I'm on my job in a year. Great. Okay. So let's, okay. of us,

well. Perfect. So within the metal community, one thing that really caught my eye a few days ago and I was talking to you and you did you heard about it is this band

called the Big Six, which is essentially they're calling, you know, the boy band of Death Corps, which is all these major artists in the Death Corps scene that have created this band altogether.

And when I saw us, I was really impressed because of, you know, there's Dickie Allen from Infant Annihilator. You know, you have Tyler from Traders. You have Taylor from Left to Suffer. You have Franz from Attila. You know, and it's really, really interesting that the metal scene is obviously going in a direction

where they're making this more like pop-esque without doing the pop actual music. You know what I mean? But they're using the pop formula. They're using the formula. Exactly. And I find that really, really interesting. I found a clip of... Let's see how it sounds.

Yeah. Fucking Taylor, dude. Taylor, man. Oh, and you have Will Ramos from Northern Shore. Like, of course, just to top it all off. Oh, my goodness. You got Will. So cool.

Total badass. He's the current of my favorite. Taylor's great. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. I find it extremely, like, again, just going back to the fact that they took the pop formula. But they're not using the pop music.

I think that's incredible. and I'm really, really intrigued and interested to see exactly what comes out of this band. Like, imagine like a live performance. Oh, it's going to be huge. With six vocalists and then the actual, it's like a fucking choir. It's amazing. Giving people what they want. Yeah, exactly.

Basically, yeah. Yeah, I mean, especially in our, you know, our genre. Like, you got to collab as much as possible. You know, build something together. Like, that's basically how the scene was, like, formed, right? It's like people working together, collabing. Exactly. Performing together.

Like, you need to do that as much as possible, which makes this is, I mean, this is sick. Yeah. It's a little weird you call it Big Six and there's no OGs in there. But it's fine. From the Big Four. True. Yeah. Yeah.

But, I mean, I think what they're doing is sick and it's perfect for something like this. I mean, who knows where it can go. And then shit like this also breaks the fucking rulebook. And there's too many rules in our genre, man. I'm for anything that kind of breaks the rules and steps outside of boundaries. I agree with that. 100% I don't think there should be any rules

when it comes to art. Zero. Yeah. I also, what I love about art our scene is that, you know, I got into the scene when I was what,

back in 2004. But even before that, you know, you've had rock for so many decades. But what it just seems like is that people are continuing to try what can I do to make it heavier? How can I make it darker

and grimmer and grittier? Yeah. I just love that with every, it seems like every three or four years, a new barrier gets broken into more heaviness, into more gritty. And so, you know, while also becoming poppier somehow.

Correct. Correct. Like increasing, pushing the boundaries of heaviness while also incorporating more of like the catchiness of pop and rap and stuff like that. Yeah. You know. I mean, I'll always say for me personally, you know, I think Dickie, the way that his overall flow is

and the way that he is able to shape words is so pop because it's so goddamn catchy. Yeah. His cadences. His cadences are incredible. I've never heard cadences like his before

in my life. 100%. Yeah, it's funny how the cadence will actually stick with you more than the actual word they're saying. 100%.

Especially in metal. Yeah. Word screaming is involved, you know. Yeah, I think about being high and drunk. And then, you know, you're like, you might not be sane in words, but you just kind of follow this, like, certain pattern.

That's like, That's some deep-ass shit. Yeah. Exactly. It's like... Yeah. I always like to listen to metal from the perspective of someone listening to the first time. Yeah.

I feel like that's the best way. Of course. Yeah. Because I remember the first time I heard it and it's like you don't care about the lyrics or any of that. When you become a fan, then you get into that kind of stuff. Yeah. But first listen, you're just soaking in the energy and the vibe. Yeah.

You know, that's the beauty of it. I think a band that does that extremely well outside of like the death chorus scene or anything like that would be the ghost inside. Oh, yeah. I think they are nothing more than just a tidal wave of energy in each song. Even if the song may not be your cup of tea, there's no way you're not headbobbing to that song. They're definitely an undeniable band. Yeah. Of course.

Like, up there would like bring me and stuff like that. I mean, they've been through fucking hell. Hell and back. Jeez. Jesus, dude. It's crazy. A Lurion, you know, my old band, we were meant to play the show with them. That was my show.

That was the show, too. Yeah. And then. They were on their way to my venue. On the way. and then the bus accident happened. Jeez. Such a like odd circumstance.

So weird. That's how it happened, you know. It's always, it's always saying like the back of your mind when you're on a plane or you're on all these fucking drives. Mm-hmm. In the interstate at fucking 3 a.m. every night. You kind of crossed your mind, but it just never happens.

Thankfully then the Coastside actually experienced that. Yeah. It's fucking insane, dude. And, you know, shout out to them for still wanting to play. It's amazing. I wouldn't blame them if they, you know, wanted to hang it up. after that, obviously. But they're that strong and they're that determined to put out music, that they're like,

no, screw that, we're going to do it. Yeah, no one could fuck goes to side ever. No. And that's what I actually love about is that you said that they're strong enough to like push through it. It's like you guys, you know, Jonathan specifically, you know, you guys stood by your lyrics. You guys literally pushed through. Yeah. Perseverance.

Yeah. Because that's all that John ever wrote about. I was like perseverance and things like that. And I love that they stood by their own, their own rep. It's like their own. Yeah. Yeah. I agree 100%.

They're one of the strongest people I know for sure. 100%. It shows their character. It's impressive. It's fucking badass. Very respectable too. Yeah. Yeah.

100%. Well, I love to see you Taylor and Will doing some shit together. Yeah. They're kind of like my favorite vocalist out right now. They're doing like the current stuff. Like the newer guys. Yeah. Definitely.

And they each have their own style, which I love. I love, you know, vocalists. They can do their own thing. Yeah. And, like, kind of reinvent the genre in their own way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it always sounds wrong when I say it, but when I, Will kind of freaks me out when I see him in person.

Because he's the only guy on Lona I never really connected with because he, he reminds me in Mitch a lot. A lot. Oh, wow. A lot. I'm not saying, it's like, I can't put words to it, but it's just there's like a very, there's a very big. similarity. I'm not talking about style. I'm not talking about sound. There's an energy to it. Like when you're in the room with him, you're saying. Yeah, I'm like, this is fucking cool. That's so cool, man. Yeah, people don't give Mitch credit,

but like when Mitch died, the fucking genre took a big fucking dip and people tried to pretend they took a spot. Dude, everybody. I won't say their names or the band names, but you weren't even fucking close or ever will be. The genre was never the same. No. It really wasn't. It took it. It took it. It took. It, it, it It took years, man, that had that kind of, it's an unexplainable thing, man. It's this energy. And you don't, I mean, look, what was sent, so aside from the memorial show, when have you ever since then and before that, when have you ever seen the metal community come together that deep and that emotional and that vulnerable together? Never. I've never seen that.

That memorial show was something to really try. truly like cherish and experience. Yeah. That's like a, that's going to be in history forever. Yeah. For sure. Surprised that shit happened.

A lot of. Everyone flying out during, during the holidays. It's pretty. Really cool, man. Was there, was there a specific performer on that show that you were extremely like,

like, surprised with how they did, how they held up with, with that, like the song that they did? Uh, it was, it's,

it was Phil. Phil? Yeah. Yeah. He, He's the guy that actually gave me goosebumps. He brought it for sure. Yeah, the way he walked, I was like, oh, fuck.

Holy shit, it's about to get real. You can tell he felt what he was saying. You know what I mean? I agree. He felt those words for sure. I will say, I give Austin credit for being an attack attack. Like, it's such a different genre of core. And doing, you know, holding up with suicide silence, I thought he did phenomenally well.

Yeah, they all put their own twist to it. It's fucking badass. Yeah. You know. And that was the cool thing, too, hearing suicide silence with a different frontman each song just gave you guys like a different. It was like, damn, I never thought of that song being done that way. Yeah. You know.

Yeah, even though the genre is like similar, like, it's just so many personalities that are just sounds so different and a different feel. Like, oh, wow, this is really different. It's funny. Yeah. Just the singer can change the whole vibe of the song. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The whole energy of it.

Totally. It's all energy, man. It's crazy. this above life thing that I just can't put a word to it will well reminds me of that it's that it's this charisma he's it's star power or whatever you want to call it um i say this a lot when when mitch passed away it was like it was we came we were late to the game but mitch was himself very early on yeah he was just on his own terms his own he was his own dude and will is very similar He's his own guy.

He's, it's this. And that's why people gravitate towards both of them. Himself, authentic. There's no fucking smoking mirrors. Yeah. It's awesome. You'll be surprised how rare that shit is. And have like this magnetic thing to it.

I'm like, you know, I haven't, you know, it's been a while since I had a similar vibe. You know, again, it's nothing about the sound. Yeah. Nothing about the look. It's just a, it's a, I can't explain unless you've, I've been around Mitch for over 15 years. It's that energy. It's like a word, you can't, it's like,

what is it about that guy? I don't know. It's like you don't even have to meet the person you just know automatically. It's like this unexplainable presence. It's cool. I mean, you need more personalities. I'm a big fan of Alex from Slaughter to Previll.

He's great. People only know about that band because they don't play a lot of shows. But we see him live, Alex. Oh, he's fucking sick. He puts on a show. show. So fucking epic, dude. He's the best example of a frontman, for sure.

They're out there. Yeah. They're fucking out there, man. Yeah, so cool. Let's keep the death core boy bands coming. I agree. I love it. Do anything that pushes the genre forward, I don't give a fuck.

You could even call it a big six, whatever. If it fucking helps the genre and heavy music as a whole, people forget, like, we're all under the same umbrella. Yeah. It only benefits everybody who's a part of it. Benefits. You guys can't forget that. Benefits everybody.

But the more boundaries you push, the more you're unknowingly inspiring more ideas to further more ideas to further more ideas. Like I've been saying this lately because I've been feeling this. You know, like we all remember like the family values days where, you know, you had like corn and ice cube and deaf tones torn together. Like I think we're getting back into that where like the main. mainstream media or society, however you want to call it, is open to the alt world again.

And now it's like this unison thing where we can all coexist together and thrive together. And like this hasn't happened for like 20 years. So it's really cool. It's just going to take the right combination of bands to do the right tour, their right records, their right time. And it could be really special. Yeah. You know, I agree. 100%.

Yeah. So we got one more. Yeah. You know, I felt I felt to kind of ended on a festive note. Since it is, it is the holidays. It is the holidays. Not metal at all. I thought this was hilarious is that this Florida cop, he was, he parked base, he parked up by a school zone.

And I guess this particular school zone is kind of more known for people kind of speeding through it, not abiding by the laws of the speed limit. and so he dressed up as the Grinch. Nice. And instead of fine, well, basically he gave them a chance. You can either take a ticket or you can take an onion. Oh, my goodness. And it's absolutely, it's genius.

Which are still operating even though it's a holiday season. And when I give them a clear choice of a citation or the onion, they will take the onion. And I'll have them each million right in front of it. choice between a ticket or an onion. So you get the truth decide, but we do. You gotta eat the onion? Well, you get to at least heart it, keep it, take it, you take the citation, which is only $400.

Okay. Or the onion. I think I'll take the onion if that's- Really wise man, really wise. Okay, so what's the back story with the onion? He, I, from what I, from what I read and everything, it was literally just that he wanted to, I, Give somebody a choice between one or two things. Mm-hmm.

And what he said was that, you know, a ticket makes you cry, but an onion can make you cry as well. Yeah. Okay. You know what I mean? That's cool. He's, and at the same time, what I really admired from him was that he was making it a point of,

it's the holiday season. People are already in finance, we're already in a financial problem right now. Yeah. You know, just with the world and the economy and everything. It's the time of giving. why am I going to take somebody's money away from where they can, you know, the $400 ticket, they can use that $400 for their kids, for Christmas dinner, for things like that.

Yeah. So he wanted to give them something that was more of like a burden. Like a metaphor. Yeah. Of like, hey, don't do this again. Yeah. You know. More teaching someone a lesson than like punishing them.

And I honestly truly believe like, look, when you slap a child versus just vocally, let's say, disciplining them. the vocal discipline it's been proven is much more of a positive effect. Totally, yeah. It has way more of a positive effect long term. So if you do the same thing with adult, at the end of day, whether you're a child or an adult, you're a human. The mind's going to receive things the way it wants to receive it. Exactly. So if you do things more like this, I'm not saying eradicate tickets.

But if you do things more like this, I feel like people will abide by the road a lot more and just by rules in society. It's going to make them think more than if you just gave them a ticket, they're going to just be mad at that car. They gave them a ticket. Exactly. We're not going to think like, oh, maybe I should slow down. Yeah. And then they'll pay the ticket and they'll forget about it a day later. And they'll speed the next day.

Yeah. Whereas if they got an onion, it's like, I got a fucking onion because I'm a piece of shit. I have the smelly onion in my car now. And those are the things I stay with you forever too. Like those, are you here with a simple saying or a picture like it'll like stop you from. I remember I heard someone told me like, you know, yeah, don't don't piss him on toilet. you're i mean it's it's it's a dick move i mean for some reason years later almost every almost every time while walking in a bathroom i think about that it's like those little things that stay with you

forever you're like yeah i can't piss in toilet i can't piss on a seat i gotta plug and put up the seat and yeah it's just like those little things will stay with you forever so if the onion could help stop the speeding problem there you go and you know he's dressed like the grinch so it's like you're saying austin like you'll never forget that like oh the grinch gave me an onion instead of a ticket exactly that's hilarious I think at baseball, Dan, we'll take the ticket instead because he hates On Young. Shout out, D.K. So there's that.

Well, shit, I think we covered a lot, a lot of positivity during the holidays. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. We got our shitty hats. If you want to buy Christmas shit, we're talking earlier. Now it's the time to buy it because it's all fucking discount. Yeah, everything's on clearance.

I think we're going to buy some Christmas lights and put them up here. Oh, yeah. Next episode. I do see some Christmas lights. Yeah, probably be fucking, hopefully, cost a dollar. That's all I have on my bank. All right, anyway.

Well, cool. All right, well, next week we'll be here for, we'll celebrate the new year together. We will bring in 2020 together. Stoked. We're not going to take the day off. We're going to fucking fuck. My goodness.

Well, Austin, thank you for contributing to the first episode. Yeah, I appreciate it, man. Chris, Zach, I appreciate you guys more than you know. Yeah, so we look forward to having you back. Yeah. So, all right, everyone. Thank you for watching, listening, and have a happy holiday. Hopefully you get what you wanted for Christmas.

And hopefully you didn't get a big old box of coal. All right. All right, guys. Happy holidays. Happy holidays. Later. Later.