Garza Podcast - 70 - OV SULFUR: Clean Singing in Deathcore, Dimmu Borgir & Gatekeeping Band Shirts

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

Garza sits down with Las Vegas Deathcore band Ov Sulfur. Their new album The Burdern Ov Faith drops this Friday! ovsulfur.com SPONSORS: distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! emgpickups.com Promo Code: Heavy 15% OFF! Ov Sulfur is: Ricky Hoover - VocalsChase Wilson -GuitarDing - BassLeviathvn - Drums TIME CODES: 00:00 - Too Much Caffeine & Trash Energy Drinks 03:22 - Clean Singing in Deathcore 06:45 - Uranium & Juliya 08:26 - Dimmu Borgir & Synthwave 12:42 - Drummers Are Fun To Watch (Levi) 16:36 - Levi Joining the Band 22:27 - Kazoos, Bath Bombs & Novelty Merch Items 26:30 - Garza Loves Ov Sulfur & Vice Versa 31:51 - Ricky and His Infamous Click (Timing) Problems 36:35 - Meeting Band Members (AIM Chat and DMs) 40:50 - The Vision for the Band 47:45 - New Record (The Burden Ov Faith, 2023) & Band’s Success 54:20 - Emotional Music Video for “Earthen” 01:03:54 - Fanboying 01:06:10 - Gatekeeping Band Shirts & Vinyls 01:10:42 - Lorna Shore, Chelsea Grin

When Levi, when we intercepted him on his way, you know, from California to Pittsburgh, we went and had dinner and we just vived. Right away, we went into like that three-week tour. And we're like, hey, man, we just met you and all. But here, learning these songs really fast, help us write the album and go on tour. I don't know, a couple months span. That's not that much. We're not asking about.

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Two. He had to follow up. Two. You got to have a follow-up. What the hell? I'm not accepting this. Yeah, I had to stop because I was drinking. I need another opinion.

But I was drinking, I was drinking like two to three of them a day, plus sometimes pre-workout too, because, you know, I did work out in the gym and stuff. But, yeah, it just fucked me all kinds of up, dude, it's bad. So I got, I have poor blood circulation now. I'm having vasospasms where your blood vessels are constricting, and it's very painful. and your feet and hands and fingers are always freezing because I got a thing called Raynauds as well from it. And the energy drinks are full of other things too,

not just caffeine. And you get too many of these other things and it messes you up really bad. Like iron. Yeah. So too much iron because, you know, I have a red meat diet too for a lot. So I had to cut back on that a little bit too.

Jeez. It's fine. I just eat it a couple times a week rather than every single meal every day. Not too bad. Turkey rules. I like turkey. Yeah, turkey.

Turkey's great. Well, dude, it's sick that you got like the discipline to stop it. Oh, it's pretty fresh. So we'll see. Well, maybe I'm a doctor, but maybe you're just too fucking sick, dude. Bro, Ricky's so fucking sick. I started drinking coffee and that's been helping. And the physicians told me, both of them, said coffee's fine.

Coffee's fine. Coffee's fine. Just don't drink like, you know, a gallon of it a day. You know? No, you don't want to have like a whole pot to yourself. Yeah, exactly. I said like, you know, cup, enjoy it, you know. I just drink it over ice.

No espresso. Huh? No espresso. Well, no, I can do espresso. I just can't drink like 12 of them, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's going to be hard for you because they're like this big. Yeah, exactly. Well, today we have the whole band of sulfur.

Holy moly. Yeah. It's good to see you guys. Thank you for making the drive to tell you to have a show later. So it's pretty sick. Thank you guys for being here. Thank you for having us. Yeah.

Thank you. Ricky, Chase, Levi. Boom. Got it. Got it. Got it. I pause for a second, buddy. Ding?

Am I main man? Trey. My main man? I can't get them off. Cool. Well, since we are friends and we know each other, I'm just going to go straight in. Yeah. Cleansing in Death Corps.

What are you doing? What are we doing? We're pissing off the Normies, the Normie Death Corps elitist people. Anything we can do to piss people off we're going to do. So might as well. If it's clean singing and deathcore, that's what we're going to do. It has nothing to do with any artistic decisions. No, it is literally because we're just trolls.

We have a vendetta. I just, you know, Chase and the previous people, you know, that we've, we made music with, um, have been trying to get me to sing for the inception, since the inception of this band. You know, because we'd be in the studio, I'd just do like little things here and there just fucking around and they'd be like, dude, why don't you sing? And I'm like, ah, I don't think I'm, I don't think I can do it, blah, blah. And, um, we obviously have had clean singing, you know, clean singing in our fucking music since the beginning of our band. We were very, like, we came right with that. You know what I mean? We wanted to have that in there. Great. So, um, finally,

I was trying it out in the studio because I had a quick idea just to, I was like, I'm going to sing like a butt rock guy just to see if it works. Didn't end up doing that, obviously. But, yeah, but we did something else, and then the producer was all about it

and the label was all about it. And, you know, Chase is like, yeah, I've been trying to get you to do that forever. And so we just went with it. I did say that. You know, anytime I get a chance to tell Ricky, I told you so is a great moment. Oh, we could tell you that.

It feels so good. It's very rare. It's very rare. Oh, no, I know, it's rare. No, but it's become a part of your sound. Like, you guys have your own sound. It's fucking badass. Thank you, man.

Yeah. Ironically enough, it's funny. I thought Levi would hate the clean singing. Really? Why me? I just, I don't know, man. I thought, for some reason, I had the notion that you'd be like, I don't know, dude. It's not, you know, but apparently he loved it, so I was pumped.

It's because you're a grumpy black metal baby. This is true. Whoa. The black metal baby? No, no, Levy does the best black metal talking voice I've ever heard. No, I don't. He does. No, I don't.

He does. Out of loss anyway. Yeah, dude, he fucking just talks like it all the time. But I thought he would, I didn't think he would be into it, you know what I mean? And I told the guy who was like, I don't know, I'm a little nervous. I want to see what Levi and his girlfriend, Lauren, think of it, you know what I mean? And they said they dug it, so I was pumped, you know? Pumped.

Yeah. So just had a curiosity real quick. What's your favorite band? My favorite band? Hmm What a loaded question Yeah Top two

Top three top five I mean Demi Borgier would probably Be up there Okay Topps Dude they have singing correct Yeah

Yeah They have like a big Yeah A good old vortex Yeah Yeah Yeah Now they predominantly

In like their newer stuff It's like mainly all choirs And stuff But yeah No it's in there Dude Dean What What's that song

That they made a video Of and it's like The bass player Or some He's like some In some epic Fucking mountain or something And

Is that Progenies of the Great Apocalypse. Yeah. Yeah. Is that or? You're thinking of a mountain. Maybe a sacrilegious scorn. Might be.

It has like this big singing chorus and it was all over like, uh, I think that's progenies. I want to say uranium. Oh, dude. I remember uranium. Julia. Oh, I had the cots for Julia, bro. I think, I think, I think we all did.

You know, might pull up Julia. Yeah, dude. Uranium. She did? She did? What? What? It's like the actual chemical.

I think she was a great interviewer. Well, she had that commercial. She had that commercial. Shout out the jewelry. She's badass. Not the commercial. Like, the intro to the show was her taking off shirts one after another. And they were all banned shirts till eventually the last one you saw Underboob.

Oh, no. And then it went to into the show. And you always watch it like, damn it, you know. Yeah, it was a great show. It was a great show on Fuse, yeah. Yeah. Shout out Few's. That was my childhood right there.

Also, real quick, I meant to say this. How crazy is it that Vortex was so good that they had to get an orchestra to fill the void that was there when he was gone? Yeah, that's a good point. That guy was just fantastic, like singer. I know he has a new band, but... Hey, Jake, can you type in DEMU Vortex? Wait, is it the intro over here? Oh, that is it?

Is that it? Miss Fitch shirt. Oh, yeah, dude. 13 years ago. Oh, my God. Watch, watch. Let's up right. There we go.

I forgot about this. She's still going. I forgot about this. what a sick-ass show man it really was here we go here we go oh no no yeah coming uranium man

it was it was fucking mainstream it gave like all at the head boom there we go oh my god oh my goodness you know I found her on Instagram and I followed her

and she liked something that I commented on one of her posts years ago but yeah you were you're so I was crushing on her so hard back then yeah

so fucking sick okay Jay again type in Demu vortex right yeah vortex vortex. So he is, I don't know, the bass player? Yeah, who's the bassist? Wow, what a fucking legend.

Best clean voice. See, they got a compilation for him already. If you have a compilation for the best clean voice, holy moly. Levi, did him and the keyboardist, they did another band together, right? I don't think the keyboards did any. He, like, does music scoring for other stuff. I don't think he's in, like, bands or anything more. I think this is just audio.

Or is it live? Dude, Dima are legends, man. Yeah, man. That sound. Holy shit, dude. One of the bands I've always wanted to see live and have never gotten the chance to see. Never seen them live? No.

I haven't either. Dude. Fuck. They don't really play here that much. They don't, huh? Especially now. They don't even, I don't feel like they don't even do much shows in general now. Yeah, it's only like the European Festival.

It's like you'll see like their name pop up. I hope we didn't miss our chance, man. No. I really want to see. I've never seen Cradle either. I really want to see. cradle. Man, especially

like, you guys are fucking evil. I'm especially like you guys. I would like expect like, okay, we've seen cradle 20 times.

We've seen Dimo about 15 times. I tracked off in the bathroom and they were sick. You know, like I thought it's gonna hear these stories, but I guess that explains it. Like I really never noticed

that DEMU never really has came over to the States to do like a full on like U.S. tour or anything. I think it's been like years. I don't think they've done one that could be wrong since the album prior to the last

Abra Habra or whatever I think that was like the last time There's a lot of those bands that'll just hit like New York and then L.A. and then fly out to do all the Europe stuff and then that's fair. Do like a couple shows in the States and then just fly out. They're like we hit the States that's like Dark Funeral. I saw Dark Funeral

back in like 2006 2006 or 2007 maybe and like I have they come I don't know if they've come? Have they come? I just saw I just saw that. That's right. They've come. They've come here a couple times. Yeah.

And then I got to see Emperor. I got to see Emperor at Psycho too. Oh, that's right. That's right. How was that? Dude, it was such an experience. Like, the stage lighting was so cool. It just looked like they were silhouettes on stage.

And it was one of the best, like, black metal shows I've ever seen. It was insane. And then I went to go over to see Soft Kill because I live, Synth Wave. Oh, wow. Hell yeah. You got me on that shit. I love that stuff now. We were driving, and he would play all these different songs.

And, like, I'm, I'm a big synth wave and dark wave. I like dark wave too. I'm a big fan all that stuff now. I'll put it on when we drive. It's so much easier to listen to that and drive than like metal all the time. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So what's like a good like, what's called softwave? Synth wave. Simph wave. Simpl wave. That's the band. Soft kill. It might my brain you like a,

oh. It's funny. Stop working for a second. It's cool because it's like, you know, when I get done playing like shows and stuff like that, And I've just had an onslaught of like, you know, metal in my ear all night long. Like, I go in the van and it's my turn to drive. I'll turn on Depeche mode or I'll turn on bands like soft kill.

And you're a poser, bro. I know, bro. We're just a poser. We don't. We don't live metal all the time. We don't live metal all the time. It's just really relaxing. I don't know.

It's super nice. But I'm also like, you know, I'm over 30. So I know kids, like, some kids will get in their car and just continue to listen to, like, crank, like, death core. and stuff like that. I can't do it. Maybe that's why he'd fall asleep when at the, you know, at nighttime, easy when driving or something.

Oh, yeah, right? I was like, man, soft kill. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta get, you got to, like, other stuff because that will, like, some consciously, like, inspire, like, other ideas for your band.

Yeah, and then, like, yeah, and people, yeah. And you'll be like, you could tell someone, hey, I got this idea from this artist and, like, you can't even tell. And that's, And that's what's all about.

100%. Yeah. And a lot of the ambience that and melody and stuff like that in like of Zulfur songs does come from that. And like among other things too. Yeah. Yeah. Like one of our new songs, um, uh, death circumstance has no blasting in it at all. Right.

And like I didn't realize it. And then we were shooting the video and I'm watching Levi play it. Right. And I'm like, his board looking. I'm, no. No, it's quite, it's quite. It's not real enough.

Yeah. Right. No, he, it's amazing. I actually, I think if. if he would have put blasting in this song, it would have ruined it. Because of how creative the drumming for that song is. But I didn't realize it until I saw him doing it at the video, right? And like, that's like the least metal thing you can do today is like, oh, no blasting.

It's not going to be this, this, or that. Boring. It's boring, right? But like, that's probably some of my favorite drums he's written for this new album. Wow. Which is weird because, you know, I love blasting, right? But like, I don't know. It's just, it's different.

and I think maybe that was taken with the approach of like... What seats the song? There you go. Also, it's kind of a chance to show more. Looking hot, dude. Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, man. Look at all your tattoos.

Yeah, this is pain, actually. I cover them up. He got the derma blend out and did it down. You literally look like black metal Ronnie Rackie. That was so disrespectful. I don't know, that dude's hot 100. Top Hot 100, so. I'm a compliment.

Yeah, it is. There's something about looking at a drummer that's so visually pleasing. Yeah, dude, I love watching drum play through. It's a little theatrical in a way. It is. Yeah. Well, especially when you get into it, like Levi does and he's like, his arms are like, flailing. I feel like, yeah, I feel like he's definitely one of the drummers that hits hard.

Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? You can tell when people don't really, you know. And they're just like, I mean, I could be off base here, but the way it looks. anyway, you know what I mean? Yeah. Just by looking at you play right now, it's like

I could tell that's very creative, you know? Thank you. If it looks sick, it probably sounds sick. Yeah, we, I actually found Levi on YouTube from one of his drum covers. Really? Yeah. It was, we were talking about this the other day. It was a cattle decat.

I found the slaughter one. I brought it was slaughter. I sent that one to you. Oh, you sent me that to me, and then I You found the cattle. Was it demolisher? Oh, no, it was, um. What was song was? Agony.

Agony. Yeah. That's where he does the double switching blast. Yeah, dude, it's so sick. I was like, we got to get this guy. He's so sick. And so we reached out. I think Ricky reached out to him.

Did I reach out to you? You did. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We were moving and also my Instagram's blown up. I'm like, hmm. Yeah, right. Ricky Hoover was like, okay.

The lazy Chase followed me. I'm like, okay. There's a theme happening here. That's like, what's going. Or like, I'm going to follow him. Yeah, literally as I'm loading my car up. I'm like, okay. I wonder if he's going to notice.

Why do we do that? Why do we do that? I don't know. I feel like it's like, this is going to sound weird, but it's almost like a mating dance to find a new band. It is. It's like, oh, I followed him. And then the next guy for him, how's he going to react?

Oh, my goodness. And with like Ding, we lucked out because we had met Ding when we played with his other band. You know? And he was, we just, yo, man, you want to do this well? He's like, yeah, sure. So it was easy as hell.

I did get followed by everybody in the same day. Oh, I did too. Yeah. And Brad, yeah. That's funny like you look at your phone. You start telling your friends, well, I guess I'm in the band. My best friend Mark goes,

they're going to ask you to play watch. Sure enough. Sure enough. Wow. I think I had to get at least a phone. phone call before Brad would follow me. That is so silly, dude.

So where were you from? I was in the Orange County area. Oh, yeah, you were Belinda. And so I was on my way actually moving to Pittsburgh when they were hitting up with my girlfriend. I was packing up all my stuff and then, yeah. Yeah. They all hit me up.

The thing was we wanted somebody who lived close, but then we met him and he was like, I'm moving to Pittsburgh. And I was like, well, he's so good though. And I was like, whatever. Like, he can just be in, you know? Yeah, yeah. We have Ding who's in Arizona.

And then the drummer we had before lived in California. And, you know. Yeah, and before him, we had someone in Arizona as well. Yeah. That's why it made sense for us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So we were trying to just kind of go through and, you know, rebuild the band.

And we wanted people that were close. We ended up getting Pittsburgh. Arizona who's moving to Pennsylvania. And then Virginia now. Virginia now. So we're kind of all over the place. That's the beauty of how things work now. You know what I mean?

We've been very fortunate to kind of have this it's all happened very fast for us. You know what I mean? Which is amazing and we're very thankful for it. But because of that, we're able to have members in different areas. You know what I mean? And every, you know, we, another big thing was

when Levi, when we intercepted, him on his way, you know, from California to Pittsburgh, we went and had dinner and we just vibed. You know, we went and met him and hung out and vived. And immediately we threw him into this long, yeah, it was like right away, we went into like that three-week tour. Yeah. Not super long, but long for, you know, for the first thing.

The longest one we had ever done. At that time, yeah, yeah. And we're like, hey, man, we just met you and all. But here, learn these songs really fast. Help us write the album and go on tour all in a, I don't know, a couple months span. That's not that much. Yeah. We're not asking a lot.

Nope. Dude, come on, come on, I'm following you on IG. Come on. Come on. I followed you, man. Come on. You got to pull through. Respond to me.

Respond. I followed you. Respond. Yeah, what, so what were you thinking when they were, like, asking, hey, you want, you want to go on tour? Like, were you like, or were you like, say, fuck it. I'm going. I mean, at first, I was like, because I was in a band before, and it wasn't like, you know,

just with COVID and all this other stuff happening, you know, everything was just kind of, you know, dormant for a while. and I had kind of felt stuck where I was living in California. And I was like, I kind of didn't know what I was going to do. I was trying to diving into like production and stuff and was thinking, maybe I'll go that route or something. I was invested into that. And so, but then, yeah, they hit me up and they were like, yeah, we want to, you know,

they kind of gave me the rundown of like all their plans and stuff they were working on. I was like, oh, man, like, this is a chance to kind of get back into the field. and, you know, do this. And so, I mean, at first, you know, I was just kind of like, man, I don't know if this is, like, you know, I was trying to look at this other avenue and then, but I was like, you know what? This is just, this is just a chance to kind of get back into it and just go for it. And I was like, you know what? These guys seem like they got it together and they know what they want. And it's, yeah.

Little did he know. We know what we're doing. but hey I mean that's great that happens you know so but yeah no so I was like okay

they threw me a song and I was digging what they were doing and so I was like it was a wide open was the first was the first track they gave me

and they had their cute program drums to it that I got to it it is accurate I am no drummer and I programmed I was like

here you go and he was like yeah we can could work on this. Yeah. I might have a few ideas. It's like, you guys need me.

Oh my goodness. I know. I just, I heard the song. It's like, I got to get in there. Or then we had other stuff where he's like, yo,

there's no way anybody could play this. This is not humanly possible. Yeah. You know, like, just like you crazy too much. You can't hit three times in a high head at the same time. So that doesn't work.

Oh my goodness. What did you, did you bring it up? Obviously, you probably have a conversation with, your so-cow girlfriend i mean did you have that combo well no actually she lived in pittsburgh and so we were we were going back and forth like seeing each other and so uh it was it you know it came down to the decision of like you okay who's who's doing the move and so

i made the decision to go her and be with her over there and so um yeah no that's uh i forgot what was the original question i got wrapped up in that part oh yeah no man what uh what did uh I mean, yeah, was that? Oh, what did she, oh, because she already... What did she say? Yeah. I mean, because, yeah, I kind of consulted her about it, and I was just like, you know, I don't know. I don't know.

And she kind of encouraged me to do it and give it a shot. Well, she's very musical, too. Yeah, like, she plays guitar and stuff. She's a good guitar player. And so she's very familiar with, like, this style of music and the music scene and... Didn't she tour? Didn't she tour one or twice? No, I think she just did, like, merch for, like, a band for, like, like, a week or two.

or something like that. Oh, that she played. No, I don't think she's played live yet at all. Oh, okay, okay. But she's, you know, she, like, had guitar lessons when she was younger and just kind of kept with it

and actually got her guitar for Christmas too. Oh, cool, yeah. Nice. That's fucking badass. Well, because Levi, he plays, he can sing, he can do vocals, he can play guitar. Yeah, it's crazy.

He can do everything. Yeah. Very multi-musical. I'm not good at all. Me either. Just fine, don't worry about it. Because he just keep going forward. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much.

And, like, Ding, Ding plays guitar and bass, right? Yeah. And, uh, um, Trey, you can, he plays the triangle. He plays the triangle. Yeah.

Actually, Kazoo is what I try to. What he's proficient in. Oh, well, uh, because you would definitely add to the genre. Oh, yeah.

Black and Death Corps with Kazoo. We're all about breaking it. Yeah, we're trying to piss people off. That's definitely going to do it. That's definitely going to do it. Dynamics, dude, we need, we need dynamics. We're trying to be different here. Yeah, right?

Look at those kids. Look at those kazoons, man I'm trying to get that gold-plated one right there. It's in my Amazon car right now. The chrome is pretty baller, man. I look at it over and I thought those were pipes. I don't know the glasses on. I thought we were looking at paraphernalia.

That's what I'm saying. I don't even do that shit, and I thought that was what it was. When you're so straight-edge, you think kazzoos are paraphrone? Wow. Oh, my fucking goodness, dude. We got to get you on with, like, fucking, like, pentagrams and, like, different sigils on and shit. with like baby heads hanging or something

make people think they're right. Do you think you can make upsold for gazoos and cellos at the mirch table? You know, I wonder people will buy it. I think Gene Simmons has proved you can put your logo on anything and will sell. I mean, we've already sold bath bombs.

Have you? Yeah, we have Bathe in the Flame bath bombs. And they look like... They're really good too, actually. Yeah, they're awesome. Very, very fantastic. Every time we're on tour, every band comes up to us and is like,

oh shit. That's genius. You know, because we have a song Bade in the Flame, and you can bathe in the flame. The bath bomb is literally a flame. You know, we did this funny commercial of me in the bathtub that I didn't fit in. His legs were like hanging outside the bathtub, and he popped out of the water like Jason. For the sound, it was like, yeah, yeah, you know, whatever.

It was great. And, uh, yeah. We do have, we do have another weird merch item coming out soon thanks to Bradley. We got a couple. Yeah, I won't say what it is. We can't say what it is yet. We don't ruin the surprise. But it is.

Awesome. Yeah. We're trying to do everything we can. It's not because. You should. It's not. Yeah. Damn it.

And now I'm seeing here first. Yeah, I mean, like, dude, Ghost made like a sex toy kit. Remember that? Did they? Oh, dude. Ghost? I knew a guy, him and his girlfriend, like,

recorded a video using it and sent it to Ghost. I'm not, for real. I appreciate it's another artist who's done that, too. They sent it to Ghost and Ghost, like, used it. And, like, yeah. What? Yes. Really?

Is that a thing? Mm-hmm. I didn't know. That's the first I'm here. Okay. Looking up, man. It's, this is up.

See, this is the thing, bro. I say stuff, dude. I say it with the papa and the gold butt plug. What the fuck?

Haven't you all learned? Is that a birthday? Don't question Ricky. He knows his shit. Wow. Haven't you learned? That is next level. Yeah.

Merch inventory. Who here is turning on right now? Come on. Oh my goodness. Oh man. Oh, look at that one. What the Maryland Manson one, too? Oh, no.

That's scary. Oh, that's scary. Whoever is that, it's a fucking keeper. It looks like a Pez dispenser. Ramstein were definitely via goats. They wore their goats. They throw dildos.

The fucking pink, transparent dildos is pretty sick. Very on brand for Romsstein. Hey, Brad, we got to make sex toys. Get on it. He's in the other room. I'm broke.

Come on. Def corn. Dildos with Elf Sulphir. Yep. Yep. There we go. No. I mean, if it's sick, I mean, obviously this is kind of funny, but if you, it's just

shows you, if you package something correctly and have, it. Package it. Package it correctly. I mean, it's. Yeah. I mean, it'll work. I mean, you could advertise for wide open with that. Oh, my.

Well, that's a great. Yo, Trey. Number one. Marketing. Boom. Because my, uh. Speaking of wide open I can't

I hear this I gotta say Just real quick Like It hit me This week My favorite Deathcore band is you guys

What? It is You guys Because the song I'm always playing It's wide open Dude That is my favorite song

In the genre No way That's insane That mean Both old and new I love that song Oh man Thank you so much

I mean I think collectively I think collectively all of us would agree that like suicide silence was and is what i think i told you at the change show watched up no no no no no hold on no no no no no no no no no i think i told okay they're old i was telling you at the chain show my brother was there with me and me and my brother were like dude we listened to you guys all throughout high school that's crazy you were one of like my favorite bands at the time yeah i remember i remember a flyer you guys were on where i'm i could be

mistake, but I'm pretty sure it said X, suicide silence, X. Very, very, like, when we first came out, like, we're fucking straight edge, dude. Let's fucking fit in. That's not. Yeah. X, I wonder that you can find that anywhere. Yeah, to type I don't know, you might be able to, yeah. I remember

seeing it. Nothing comes up. Maybe I make a demo. Nothing comes up. Oh, thank goodness. That's wild. It's buried. Oh, yeah. Wow. We all, like I said, dude, we all, like you guys were one of the biggest reasons this entire genre and this music is what it is

and these all of us bands are doing it like that's undeniable at this point like like you know like sure all the being humble shit like you guys are the reason I think or a big part of the reason that all of these bands nowadays are here and doing it and are being so successful

it's 100% you guys you know I think that's The cleansing scared the crap out of me I was a lot of God it is great too wow scared you I got Holy shit. That's a fucking accomplishment.

I mean, I still remember MySpace banners where I saw Mitch with his hand over the mic and his stretched ears. And it was the banner. Remember that you could have him on MySpace? Oh, and forgot the MySpace banners. Yeah, and then I heard, I think I heard, I think it was either Swarm or,

was it a Green Monster or Swarm? Green Monster one. One of those ones. I heard, that was the first one I heard and I was just like, what the fuck is going on? I got the cleansing stuck in my CD player. I'm sorry. instead of

replacing my CD player I just rocked it for like six months until I sold the truck literally the only thing I listened to you can have the truck but you have to take it with the CD I didn't mention it I was just like I'll go get another copy Imagine being a normie dude and turning your truck on

and just it's a M, FM radio or the cleansing Imagine selling it and you're like so the truck comes stock with the cleansing seating CD. It's worth less. Whoever got my 94 Ranger really sports. Fuck. I mean, like,

Trey, you're the youngest of us all, right? But like, I mean, obviously, you grew up listening to them. Yeah, I actually found you guys from watching when I was about 13, 14, actually. I'm 24 now, so not too long. Yeah. So I was watching. I was watching on YouTube the tattoo videos and Mitch's tattoo tour thing. Oh yeah.

Came up and I was like, I want to be that guy. So that actually led me to like around that time finding out like everything. And then I would get really into watching. I don't know if you still can nowadays, but the full memorial show like on YouTube. Oh yeah. I'm pretty sure it's still there. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

I just find clips of it and stuff. But that's how I like actually like got into listening to you guys. And that's how I actually found Ricky was through that. Really? Yeah, that's how I, yeah, because he obviously was on it. And I was like, he was like, God, these highs are the worst I've ever heard you desire life. Dude, I love those vocals, man. People hate that shit.

No, I love them, man, they're classic. But yeah, man, I was, you guys really, like, it was you guys and Di Art was my first two, like, death core bands. I mean, you guys obviously first. And then I was like, man. That's sick. Like, I literally was like, I looked to Mitch and was like, I want to look like that, dude. he's so cool and yeah it was sick that he was yeah same with me I wanted to look like Mitch yeah there it is man that I was like dude he did the stomp there I was like that's

sick I was actually at this show too really really so you heard those terrible highs live oh I did front center yeah he knows no why ain't gonna shine he's not gonna sugarcoat no everyone did great no the funny thing too is I was so nervous for that show that I was off. It was. And they had to fix my... I'm not embarrassed to say this. I don't give a fuck. They had to fix my vocals. Oh, really?

Because I was so off. Something happened, yeah. No, no, no. I can handle it. Also, you guys played it at a different BPM live than on that record. Well, duh. That's what I'm saying.

No clip, man. I practiced with... Yep, I practiced to that album, and then when we played it live, I was like, wait a minute, something's up here. But I was... Yeah, I, you know... Ricky and his infamous click problems.

Oh my goodness. I do have them. I'm getting better. He is. Once we put him on like an actual click, it started to click. He was so against it. Oh, ding!

Once we actually put him on a click, he has gotten so much better. It's insane and he was so against it. Yeah, it was for a long time. Really? Why? Because I couldn't do it. I would anticipate,

the thing that happened is I would anticipate, anticipate the click, right? You know, when I would try it before, and I would over anticipate it and I would be off. But now I just, I just do it. It's just, it's weird. It's like, I'm not there 100% yet, but like I've gotten so much better with it and used to it. Like, you know, it's getting better in my ears, because we all play on ears. I have the click in the ears.

Like, it helps so much, you know. Oh, wow. Yeah. But, yeah, back then, man, it was, it was bad. It wasn't that bad. And, like, honestly, like, you probably still. Chase being nice. I'm, no, no, I mean, you know, that's my, that's my boy.

You know, like, but I mean, you know, I'm all about using tools to make us all better. And, you know, in our own respective ways, too. There are things that I should probably be doing too that could make me better, you know. Well, apparently not, like, from what I got told this by a very, very, very, very influential, very good producer, right? 90% of singers in front front people, right, have problems with the click. So I don't feel too bad.

No, yeah. Nobody's ever 100% perfect. No one's on the grid. No, 100. Yeah, I hear like a lot of vocalist struggle with like having like a proper timing. I hear it's like a thing. What I would do is I would overcomplicate it

because I would write these big grandiose lyric parts. And I think we used 40 or 50% of them maybe for this actual record. but I would try to make them fit in these cool pattern ways and you have to be so good at that shit to make these things work like like like that's like you know all these guys who are doing these really cool intricate almost like double time pattern this this and that

I'm not good at that yet like it's it's very hard for me to do that kind of shit still you know so like we had to like simplify them a little bit but the thing about it is sometimes when you simplify stuff it actually becomes better of course becomes catchier it sticks in your ear more it becomes more, you know, more digestible. You know what I mean?

And specifically, too, we have our own sound. I can't, you know, I can't try to, I'm not trying to sound like anybody else. Yeah. I do do a couple parts in the new album where I do some faster vocals, which I'm really proud of. Yeah. You know, like teaching an old dog do tricks. But, you know, I think with our specific sound, we've like honed it in to be us. You know, I don't want to be anybody else.

Yeah. Yeah, your vocals are you. you really, I mean, throughout me, I mean, yeah, Ricky, you have like a full-on career. You know, and you really, you really found your own niche and your own sound. I appreciate that. It's fucking badass, Ricky. I mean, I'm nothing without my guys, though. You know what I mean?

Like, I can't do any of what they do. So I'm very fortunate to have all these guys with me. We're okay. It's funny because, like, when I first hit up Chase to do this, right? Like, he was posting some really groovy riffs. And I was like, yeah, these are okay, these are cool, right? But I really hit him up because of the Steph Carpenter guitar he has. Of course.

It's the sparkly green, beautiful. Shout out of ESB. Fucking. I'm so glad I bought that guitar. No. I loved that guitar. I thought it was awesome, you know? And he had the goat tattooed on his head.

And I was like, all, this guy looks cool. Yeah. He looks pretty okay, you know. Little did he know it was a giant goober. It works out, though. I think we're all giant goober, so it works out. Look at that guitar. That one.

Look at that beautiful guitar. I can telly's, look, amazing, man. I love him. Jesus. I mean, Chases is weird, though, because it ironically weighs about 150 pounds. It is a heavy guitar, but you know what? Steph. The goat, dude.

Yeah, man. He's a goat. He really is. My goodness, dude. One of the best, like, groove and ambient players I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. Unless you're... You have two of them? What a fucker.

Oh, when I was a Floyd Rose, my goodness. Wait, is that a nine string? Oh, I hate Floyd. No, that one's a seven. One's an eight. Oh, one's an eight. That was an eight. Oh, I'm guessing.

What a psycho. Yeah. You gotta love him. But it's crazy how you'll like something. Something will make you hit someone else up to join your band. It's funny how that works, you know? Yeah. And we actually, we started our bands in a very similar way.

You know, I met through, there was a singer before a Mitch, I met through a mutual friend that introduced us via AIM. Oh, wow. Yes. Oh, my goodness. I remember AIM. Dating yourself. I don't know.

I'm a 38 next month, bro. Yeah, it's awesome. So, I mean, you guys met through a mutual friend via IG DM, correct? Yeah, yeah. I slid his DMs. Like, no words, just pictures. Yeah. Legit?

It's like, I love your big green. Guitar. Guitar. That is thick. That thing got thick, tall. I want to fly. Love that perrotone scale. Dude, is that an extended scale?

How long is that? 27.5. Some of me picks. How did that? How did that conversation start and go? So pretty much, I just plan out said, do you want to fuck music? And he said yes. That's exactly how I know.

Raw dog band, come on. We had a mutual friend Alexis. She saw that he had posted something along the lines of, I want to start like a technical death metal band. I was so aw. What a geek. My God, my goodness. Dude, I did. I really wanted to start a tech death.

And little did I know that I cannot sing like that, ever. So, yeah, I gave that dream up real fast. And she goes, I threw your name in the ring. And I was like, I do not play tech day. And she goes, well, I think he just is looking for people to jam with. So I put your name in the ring. And I'm like, yeah, sure, Ricky Hoover, hit me up in my dreams. And that night, he DM'd me.

And he was like, what's up, bud? Yeah, I'm looking to get back into music. Do you want to, like, start a band? And I'm like, yeah. Like, I was like, yes, I do. I was like, pretty much this isn't happening. I was like, I was like, because, you know, my local bands opened up for suffocate back in Vegas. And we borrowed your equipment.

You did borrow our equipment. We were infamous for that because people in that band could not hold on to their shit. Yes. Ricky came up to me. All the shade. Fuck it. Yeah. Riki came up to me during that show and he was like, look, man, I'm so sorry.

My guys left their equipment at the last venue. Can you please, please, please, please, please, please let us borrow your equipment. And I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. He was so nice about it. It was insane. Yeah, on stage, I wasn't. That was a lot different back then on stage than now. Oh, yeah, yeah, no.

He's kicking people in the fucking front row on stage and shit. I never had bad interactions. No, offstage. Offstage, yeah. The times I paid to play with Suffocate, there were no problems. Yeah. Oh, dude, do you remember pay to play? was so fucked up.

That's still not a thing anymore. Fuck, yeah, it is. Yeah, of course it has. I think it's more there than ever right now, man. That's so fucked up. Yeah, unfortunate up. Yeah, play with R. Shudy bands? God, that's okay.

What a bummer, dude. My goodness. So, it just kind of started from there, you know? I mean, yeah, yeah. And Ricky was like, do you know anybody else? And I hit up a couple local guys. That was like the first formation above sulfur. Didn't work out with them unfortunately.

Of course. Wish them well. Yeah, wish them well. They're all good dudes. Yes. But yeah, that's how I was lucky enough to find these gentlemen. And it's been great ever since. It seemed like you guys knew right out of the gate what you wanted besides that first embarrassing DM from Frankie.

It seems like I shot the photo from down. You always shot. Oh, no. The angle is below. It looks bigger. What a terrible angle, man. Take a better fucking picture. You end up seeing the face.

Oh, my goodness. Okay, hey. Yeah, I mean, what was, like, your vision right out of the gates with the band? Salsa. I wanted to do salsa. I love salsa. Marenga. Tango.

Can find that with black metal. Can you imagine, bro? That'd be sick. Be heavy. We would be heavy. We pretty much just sat down. I told him straight up, I was like, hey, I can't play deck death. And he was like, yeah, I rethought that one.

Yeah, I mean, neither. I was like, so what do you want to do? And he was like, I want to do black and death core kind of like, his favorite band is like Lorna Shore. And like, he loved. Shadow. And Shadow of intent. He was like, I'm in love with those bands.

At that point, I was really into those bands at that point. Oh, yeah. It was fucking like, they blew my mind. Yeah. They are fucking insane. They are insane. They're nuts. And they're the best in the genre.

Of course. Agreed. Ben Duer is, in my opinion, the most, it's like Phil from Whitechapel said. I think Ben is the best person doing it as form of consistency, lyrical content, just vocal presence. Like, that guy's a monster. Obviously, will too, obviously. But like, yeah, both of them are insane. I just, I found shadow before I found Lorna.

You know? But, yeah, that's who I was thinking about. You know what I mean? And pretty much I said, okay, cool. And Diartis Murder Oh and Diartis murder Yeah Yeah

But I was like Cool I'm not gonna do it like those guys We're not gonna do it like those guys We're gonna do it a little bit different And that's how the Oblivion EP came And I said I really want to utilize clean singing

Because Nobody in the genre is really doing it Besides Shadow has a couple parts where they do it And it's But I wanted Like A reclaimer They did it a little bit

I wanted to go full on yeah like harmonies everything um and you know ricky played around with his voice a lot and i was like you could do it and he was like yeah no no no i'm i'm not gonna do it and so on oblivion it was me and the bass player at the time um which you know it's cool but i think ricky adds a lot with his vocals on this new album so i'm really glad we eventually got him to like open up and like really like sing on a record. That was kind of like how the band was incepted. Yeah, I mean, Ricky, I mean, again, we go back to like your, your foundation, your career.

I mean, did you ever think or expect, I mean, one day I'm going to be like, the real word, like a singer. So, I'm going to start singing. I've sang my entire life on, you know, like behind the scenes as far as, you know, I guess in music, I was known for the vocals that I didn't, you know, suffocate and whatever. But I was in choir all through school Oh shit I sang I was in advanced choir actually

So we sang in Latin, French All Italian all bunch of different things But then my voice changed And I was like I can't fucking do this shit anymore But I would still mess around with it And I honestly I think what really aided And that is me listening to other music And just singing with them like Louis Capaldi

Or James Arthur Hozier I would sing to all of these artists And I find I kind of found my voice again even though it would you know and i'm still getting there my my range every day is starting to get higher and higher i'm starting to sing in different things keys and whatnot so i'm still teaching myself different things but i never in a million years thought it would be like this like taylor from

suffocate who i owe everything too i love you taylor um taylor jones um he pushed me back then he produced all of my vocals um in suffocate he produced we co-wrote everything together um lyrics i did obviously but he would help he was kind of like my chase back before i had chase um and basically he and i wanted we loved metalcore right peel switch engage you know um um fucking uh as they dying fucking uh you know um i'm forgetting people now which is ridiculous but anyway we we were like yeah we could always do a different band we can never take suffocate there singing would never have worked in suffocate never it would have been thrown away as soon as it happened.

Yeah. Um, but like, we recently saw Taylor, um, when we played, um, uh,

Goldfield. Goldfield. Yeah. And, uh, he came up to me. He's like, you're doing it,

man. What we talked about doing, you're doing it. This is awesome. Cause I let him hear a couple new songs. Um, but yeah, I never in a million years thought I would be singing,

you know, and I still haven't done it on stage. So this is, well, I know, actually I did, I've done it with stained, but that's a little, like,

stained and rot. Yeah, that's like a little one part. Yeah, it's preview, yeah. But these new songs, I belt it out. And like, even in practice the other day, that was the first time I've done it in practice. And you sounded great. It's going to be crazy. But yeah, I was, so we'll see where it goes.

You know, I'm toying with the notion of just embracing it even more. We're not going to forget our foundations. We're not going to be one of those bands. No, at the end of the day, we're a black and deathcore band. I'm usually the one in this who's pushing it to be heavier, actually. Great. But that being said, is I like diversity and contrast in music. think it makes it more unique and it makes it stand out more.

I agree. You know, like I said, with, with, you know, Levi's drumming and me and Chase harmonizing the singing, you know, I think, I think we kind of want to have all doors open for the most part. Yeah. You know, obviously within a certain degree, because, you know, like some stuff just isn't going to fit. Of course.

You know, but we're, what I like about this group of guys is we're all willing to at least listen. Yeah. And try it. There's no such thing as bad ideas, really. There's just ideas. Yeah, it's not like a hard no. There's just ideas that don't work. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, like, I think right now we have a really, really good, talented group of guys who kind of all have that same understanding that we don't want to be, you know, confined to one thing. You know, like music is a very broad spectrum. And I think sometimes people get too in their own lane and too scared of exploring. And that's what kind of holds them back to a degree. Yeah.

You know. True. Especially now, like the, I mean, any genre really, like this umbrella is so much bigger. And all, I mean, Metacore. What is Metalcore? I heard the band like Alpha Wolf. And someone said their metalcore. I'm like, whoa, they are.

Paleface, bro. I got, someone told me pale face was metalcore. And I was like, what? And then I'm like, I mean. I disagree with that statement. But that's just me. Just the umbrella. So even if you say just deathcore band,

that could mean anything these days. It can. Really can. And I mean, this is, your first record isn't even out yet. You know, so,

I mean, you guys have like your fucking, the EP. You guys have your foundation. You guys have an EP. And you can do whatever the fuck you want, man. You know, it's sick.

Which, I mean, speaking of the new record, that comes out March 24th. Yes, sir. Yes. The burden of faith. Holy, holy moly.

I heard the whole record. It's fucking. sick, dude. It is sick. You like it? Yeah. I'm so glad you like it. The burden OV faith. The burden OV faith. Actually, OV. Sulfur. It was funny is like, you have all these people that are saying

they can't spell of, they can't do this, and it's like, it's like, oh, another OV band, great. I'm so glad you brought this up. In the lyric sheet, we literally took, anytime Ricky says of, it's spelled OV in the lyric sheet. People don't realize a lot of this band, a lot of this band from the inception was me and

and Chase, just fucking fucking with people. Like our Spotify bio is not to be serious. It's for fun, right? And even us putting like, when we first started it, it just said blackened death.

And it was just for fucking shits and gigs, right? It was fun. And then us putting OV and everything is to make them think like we're like, it's just me fucking with you. That's awesome. That's the whole point. But they get so offended, you know,

like, Nergel wants his of back. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, bro. And like, and like, also. Shout out to Behemoth and they're really your fucking your gods. Of course. But, you know, it's, the whole point of it is to make fun of it.

It's supposed to be fun. Stop taking yourself so seriously. We smile on stage. We play brutal music, but we have fun. You know what I mean? Like, people get so like up in arms about it, you know? And it's like, no, man, we're just fucking with you. Just fucking with you.

The infamous bio. Oh, God. So this is the one, right? This looks like a Brad job. This is a Brad job. Brad? Brad, is this you, man? What's up?

He was in on it. Oh, you know? But yeah. You know what? Funny enough, I did not know I was reading it. I'm like, I was just feeling more confused. And then I just stopped. I mean, way.

Yep. So it makes a lot of sense now. Yeah. People get so mad about it. People get mad over dumb shit. The thing is. But we're doing it right because we want them to get mad. Yeah.

Even if they're mad and they're talking about it, it's free promotion. Yeah. People are complimenting it at the shows. Yeah, where they? There was a couple people, yeah. Came up and they're like, oh, your bio. I love it. Oh, no, shit, really?

That's great. Good job, Brad. Yeah, there was a couple of last tour that that read it and knew about it. No way. Yeah. I didn't know that. I thought it would hate it.

I've just seen the, I've just seen the hate comments. It's gotten praise as well. That's RIC. Do you want, just for an EP, man, your monthly listeners has skyrocketed over 140,000 listeners with the EP do?

what the fuck are you guys doing? Well, plus we have our... The new singles. We put out the new singles. We have a very good production team. We have a very good art team. Arabis lined up. We've been very fortunate to work with Missy from MM Customs and her entire team are very amazing.

You know, Vicente. Cordero is amazing. Great dude. I mean, you know, Morgaugh, Strader, Josh Trader as well. just we're very fortunate to have all these amazing people and you know,

Century Media is just is taking care of us very well. I love Century Media. Shout out Century. Shout out to Century. Mike Gitter. You're the fucking man.

Shout out, Mike Gitter is the guy. You know, and also Brad. I mean, Brad, Brad, Brad Zordager, um, The Canadian Wonder.

The Canadian Wonder, bro. Like, he's all them together. Yeah, Canadian Wonder. You see him in the other room. What a name, dude? That's sick as fuck.

Yeah. He's, this is, this is one of talking about. He's in the other room constantly working. Like, this dude cares so much, so much about everything he does, you know? I thought you doing push-ups over there. What's up? I mean, that would be sick.

I finally get into him, but, you know. Without Brad, I really don't know if, you know, like, the music is great and, like, you know, we've got Ricky and everything like that. But Brad's marketing skills and his management skills have put us up above, like, where I ever thought we could have.

I mean, when he works with a band, he, he, he, he just kind of, it takes on a whole life for him and he cares so dearly about the band. Yeah, 100%. And that's the same thing with Mike Gitter from Century, man.

Like that guy, that guy has wind and dined us. Yeah. Which I was amazed he even wanted to do that. You know what I mean? He's just such a good... There you got, guy. He spelled it right.

Yeah, the O.F. But he's just, you know, him and all the people at Century have just been so amazing, you know. And same with just the entire team. It's all coming together so well. We have one of the best teams that I've ever seen. I'm really proud to be working with them.

That our artwork is a picture. It's not digital. Is that a shot at? Yeah. That's an actual, that's an actual prosthetics. That's a photo. That's Missy's work from MM Customs. The entire album art is photos.

It's real photos. Yeah. Yep. Okay, we're very big about that. We wanted to do that. The fact that I'm so surprised says a lot. why am I supposed to surprise about that? I remember when I was

many people are as capable of doing what she does. It's easy to get like AI, you know, just. Yeah, yeah. When I was talking about the album art, I had this idea for something completely different. We tried it out. It didn't work. Right? And I explained some stuff to her and I was just

like, let's do a real photo because I don't see any bands doing that right now. Let's be different. And, you know, bands used to do that back in the day. They just have whatever photos. And man, she just knocked it out of the part. She really did. I've seen them look really cheesy before, though. It clearly looks like they didn't spend any time, took a picture, and called it an album.

But yeah, like this, like you said, it looks. She's next level. Full screen, big detail. I mean, it just fits the title and the whole, you know, band, basically. Our whole theme and our whole, you know, everything we encompass is in that image, essentially. Yeah. This photo was actually something she had done prior. And she said, if you want to use it.

you can and it actually just happened to work out and she wouldn't license it to anybody else yeah we're the only people she ever wanted to license it to yeah really which is huge yeah we love awesome yeah we love missy she's amazing yeah yeah we love that whole team at mmm custom oh yeah yeah it fits like i mean everything is just it's like a whole vibe but you have like the cover you have like the music you have the uh like uh the songs obviously and like the videos line up it's fucking nuts dude and uh thank you I think it's it's time to talk about earthen okay that uh I watched a video this morning I want I wanted to wait until I'm gonna see you guys say yeah because because because because you told me about about the video I was obviously jamming

the record you know the past two weeks fucking going to gym being all pumped up and shit oh yes and that's just fucking sick that just a song it's sick perfect I'm okay so I'm getting I'm getting ready for for the video who came up with the concept for this video? Me. So that's a true story. Yeah. My nephew.

I wanted to do something when he passed away I was out of music but I kind of said if I ever wrote a song I would write about it. And I've never until this band felt I could do it

justice and do it the right way. So I consulted with his mother and the other family to make sure that I could do it and got permission and got their input with as much as I could. But yeah, we were very lucky and I was lucky because Vicente and Missy were very much open to everything I wanted to do because they knew how close this song is for me. And the video turned out, I could not have ever imagined it to turn out that well. And it's doing what I wanted to do. It's showing something, it's showing a side that's vulnerable.

It's showing a very, very true-to-life thing, like what kind of God would test a shot. You know what I mean? And I think that's a question that people need to ask themselves. And I think this video is very much helping people do that and showcasing exactly what it's about. Yeah, this video, I mean, it just invokes this emotion because death is universal. You know and so sad to hear about your nephew I mean he passed away. He was 16. Three days before.

He was 16. Jesus, man. I mean, that chorus. Thank you. I was like, you know what? I mean, what is he saying there? So I just, I'm looking like, that's, he can't really get much heavier than that.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, originally we weren't going to sing the chorus like that. Really? We had it recorded a completely different way. And I think it was Chase. I think it was you. Yeah.

I wanted him to sing the chorus. chorus because I knew it would invoke not to shit on screaming or anything but it would invoke a lot more emotion that way as opposed to the other way we were trying it and we had originally recorded it with I think we recorded that song with Logan right yeah and um he was screaming it and then we went to morgoths and we were like let's try the singing and rickie got in the vocal booth and we got to take that we really liked and we had him do it over and over and by like i think i think it was like the fourth or fifth time he like broke down in the booth and you can actually hear that's the

take that we used oh my god and you can hear like the shakiness and his voice and stuff so um yeah it was kind of intense to watch um i think we have it on video i i think you recorded it maybe i don't remember i may have i don't know yeah it was it was kind of intense yeah what like obviously it was singing first i what i what were you feeling when like you you first heard it back we know you like you like okay it's done like you just heard it back like what was that like it's hard to put it's kind of i can't really put it into words like yeah we were stoked that it came out the way that it did but at the same time it was like damn like we got this recorded like this.

Like we were like kind of in shock that we were able to do something like that. The way I saw it personally, I don't know about Ricky. Well, you know, I think everybody, the thing about this song, more often than not, I'm finding out that most people I know have experienced some form of loss due to cancer or terminal illness. Right? Like we all, everybody for the most part shares that common thread. whether it's childhood cancer, whether it's, you know, diseases that happen with old age.

It's just, I wanted it to, excuse me, I wanted just to bring people together. So we could really remember the people we've lost and do them, do them like honor, I guess. You guys did it, man. Yeah, just, I mean, just song in general. I mean, just invokes the emotion. you see the video like the especially like when it gets towards like the end it's like jesus man i only watch that one once or twice all the way through i can't i watch i watch i i can't focus on the whole video i can watch pieces but the whole the whole thing will just

change my day yeah it does and yeah yeah i mean like you know especially parents i mean dings a father as well and the idea of that happening is just gut-wrenching you know i actually had wanted to do something at the end of the video um where i had the mom um Because this happened in real life. His mother went out, ran out of the house when he finally passed because we were all at the house and we all had her hands on him as he was dying. And if nobody, if you've never seen what cancer does to somebody at the end, I hope you never do. It's, right? So she walks out, she runs out of the house and screams and falls and it's the most, it haunts me the sound.

And I want to do something like that for the video, but we decided not to. It's just it didn't, you know. So we finished it very tastefully. It's kind of shocking the images of him, but I want the world to know who he is. And that's the thing. And, you know. Those pictures were important for context. Yes.

100%. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people, I've seen a lot of people ignorantly put stupid things on the video, which happens. You've got to be, you know, it happens. But I'm like, did you not watch the video? Yeah. Fully. Yeah. And there's been some reviewers who literally can't finish the video.

Yep. I can't watch these photos. Like, it's, yeah. my my mom I actually showed the video too as well she watched it the whole way through and when she started to see the picture she looked at me she goes is this a true story and I was like yeah so and then you see me and him at the end too and I think it brings it all together yeah you know yeah what a phenomenal video it's

I mean obviously the event is so tragic and and terrible but just man the video is absolutely unbelievably like it's it's incredible Thank you. I like that. It's fucking amazing. People don't seem to understand like emotion has been in death core forever. It has.

Right? That's the whole point of this band. That's the fucking genre. You couldn't agree to it, dude. That's no one fucking knows. I mean, dude, and like I'm by far not the first person to ever do it, right? Sure.

But I have been writing emotional things and other bands have written emotional stuff. Like I wrote an album about killing myself in 2011. The whole album I wrote beef back then was literally without me trying to kill myself. a few different ways, you know, which I tried. And, and, you know, I love that now we can fully take all of this emotional music in, especially in this scene.

It's not, you know, in this genre, it's not all about like, oh, I'm going to gut you and whichever, you know, teaches on. That's cool in some places too, right? Sure. But it's okay to have real vulnerability. And that's what I think all of this is, you know. Gotta be vulnerable. You have to, especially in our, in our genre. Plus, who doesn't like ballads?

I don't know, if you don't like a ballad, I don't trust them. I think me being an outsider to this fan, like as far as album-wise, it's definitely my favorite track of the album, not just playing it, but just like, because I must, you can call me a scent for the emotional ballads and stuff. But just, just like putting all this, you know, that together as an outsider into this album. That stands down the heaviest hitting song in literally every way possible. Thank you, Trey. We owe you an H day

Yeah Man Ricky you come such a long way dude That to see where you guys have gotten Like it's it's pretty insane to see Well yeah I appreciate that thank you Like I always say you know I honestly would not Be able to do any of this or be here without these guys

You know And the guys that we did this with originally I got to give respect where respects do to those guys You know Absolutely You know I'm very thankful for all of them but like I just

I can do one thing vocals right that's my thing that I do my one little tiny and I it's a part of the band but it's nothing without everything else so it's not you know obviously I have a name

right which is crazy this long later but like it's just one piece of the puzzle man like I cannot do this without them you know what I mean so I do appreciate that and I appreciate when people give me these compliments and stuff but I'm the first person to tell you it's one tiny piece of the puzzle.

You know, everything else goes to these guys. You know what I mean? You guys are a sick man. Thank you, man. Thank you. Honestly, I'm grateful for Ricky for giving us the opportunity. You know, we all come from, like,

local bands and smaller bands and stuff like that and to be able to do something on this level is pretty insane to all of us. So, you know, it's like, I never thought I'd be talking to you. I'd never thought I'd be meeting half the people. that you know bro I never thought I'd be talking to him either actually it's a fucking weird life too it's crazy seeing someone that you basically idolize in both ways growing up and then you're

like I'm in a band with all you guys and these guys gave me the opportunity to be in this band with them and because I met him or all of them well you two at least yeah on the science tour with my band and that was technically our first tour it was our first that was our first tour it was our first tour it was awesome yeah it was six so That's how I met them. And the whole time, I was like, dude, Ricky Hoover is on tour. Like, I'm going to meet them. And then, you know, fast forward all this time.

And, you know, like a couple months ago, you were like, hey. Now you're like family. We need a guitar player. I was like, I'm free. Let's do it. No, but first, they followed you first. Yes, yes. And then.

Yeah, we followed. I followed Ricky. I was like, please follow me back. I don't know. I see the notification. Why do we do that? Why do we do that? I've written Nergel

on Instagram before and I've posted about him tagged him and stuff and working out stuff and he's actually responded a couple times and bro I've been like what the oh my God freaking out

Nergel if you hear this I love you but Ricky got a little black metal boner Ricky got a little black metal boner I got it. Yes I did it's okay we were chilling in Ricky's house

last night and everyone's like oh yeah Garza followed me Garza followed me. I was like, sick. Garza didn't follow me. Oh my God. That was a passive-aggressive nudged. Gers was like, yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

I can barely work that thing, dude. Yeah, see, I got to get through this podcast before I get one from him. He's like, I don't know about this one yet. Oh, man. Oh, my goodness, dude. Well, I'm glad you dug the record, you know. It's cool.

Well, it's kind of a dream of mine because I always wanted to have a vinyl and we never got to make vials. Oh, wow. So now we got a sick-ass vinyl. We got the... Four sick vinyl. Four color way.

Yeah, some of them are limited, though. So, get them all you can guys. You know? What the fuck? Oh, yeah, you got the CD? You got the red of vinyl. Oh, got the hat on. Tray's sporting the new hat.

Yes, we wear our own merch. We are that band. Yeah, hey, fucking his sligger does. Who cares? Do you remember back in the day, Garza, though? If you were... I know, why do we... Bro. Who cares?

Iron Maiden does it? Yeah. Yeah, but they're Iron Maiden, bro. Okay, well, but there's still a band that wear... This is true. But, I mean, they wear their own killers, everything. Dude, I wear my own shit now, too. I don't give a fuck.

Yeah. Like, honestly, like... I got a sulfur pants on. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, it's funny. They look good. A lot of people wear Iron Maiden shirts. It's probably hard to fucking...

On stage, specifically, on stage. They, like, all the guitar players, like Dave Murray. Iron Maiden shirt. That's tiny. Name three songs. Have you seen those videos where like metal people are talking and they ask them if they care that celebrities are wearing their shirts? Yeah.

Bro, like, I would be stoked. I'd be so stoked. Yo, Kim, Kim, please buy the of sulfur brand dildo set. Yeah. That was a horrible cell. Yeah, that is a terrible cell. She's going to be like, oh, fuck this man. Or if she does say that, she will.

And if she gets the thing, she will be fucking the man. No, bro, I'd be fucking stoked if they all wore my shirt. I don't give a fuck. I was going to say, Kendall Jenner would be the one that wears our merch. Okay, so real quick about the celebrities wearing the t-shirts, I believe it was one of the, like, you, Ger Dines. He was interviewing actual people from hardcore shows and metal shows, like, do you know any songs? And they couldn't even name songs.

Oh, yeah. So it's like, you know what is, I think the people that will give, like, celebrity shit, that's kind of a deep insecurity. I agree. I agree. I agree. 110%. Yeah. Well, it's really funny, right?

Like, Napster penalized people or that lawsuit with Napster penalized people for actually knowing songs and taking money away from the bands, right? Yeah. But now we're going to penalize people that don't know the songs that are actually contributing to the band by wearing their shirts. That's so silly. It's still support. It's still support. It's supporting them. If they know you or not.

Yeah. They bought your shirt because they bought your shirt because they. It looks cool. So it's still like someone sees. You're like, oh, dude, I like that band. It's a form of elitism. It's a hundred percent. Well, even with the Sulfurr merch, like, I base it off of street.

Or, like, when I'm going through it with Brad. Like, we'll have some of our death metal shirts and stuff like that. But I just want it to look cool. So more people will wear it, you know? We want that shit in Zumi's. Yeah. Go back, Jay. Hey, Jerry.

You got the Zumi's hook up still? Who is that idiot? Oh, is that me actually? Damn, look at that pretty gentleman over there. You were a pretty man. I actually talked about it. I literally just washed it. I just watched this video like a week ago.

This is actually why don't you interviews anymore. It's so uncomfortable when you're at like a show and you talk for five minutes and you're just like high pressure dude. I fuck, I can't do anymore. I can't. It's weird. You know what? I mean, dude, there's old age, too. I wear band shirts.

I don't, I can't in a song. Because I don't fucking, I don't, my memory is fucking shut. Try head banging up to death metal for a fucking 30 years. Also, it's about the same. The amount of band. you've probably played and toured with. Oh my god.

How are you going to remember every... Dude, there's some of my favorite bands. I don't remember their fucking song names, but I know the songs. I'll put an album on and just listen to the album, and then I can't decide for which song was what. Yeah, we were to take the CD. We were listening to something on tour, and it's a band I've loved for a long time.

Right now I'm brain farting. But you and I were listening to it when you were driving. Was it Dark Funeral? I think it was Dark Funeral. Yeah, it was Dark Funeral. Dude, and like, I think I can name one Dark Funeral song. Right? But I fucking love Dark Funeral.

Yeah. I can name the album type. title song. There you go. Yeah, yeah. I can only name the Satan's Satan's apprentice. That's it.

Yeah. Oh, I saw them play that live way back when it was so good. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's inclusion, I think if you're just, if you're supporting the band, you know, cool.

Yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, I'm, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Name one. Oh, I love, Ronnie.

Name one. To the hellfire. I'm like, I don't know, man. I, I, I, I, I could barely say that one. So I mean, just want a fucking, You know, it's fun.

You know, does he has this fucking support, you know? Yeah, we just toured with them, man. It was so fucking fun. Yeah, that was nuts. Very thankful they took us out. It was so fucking cool. Shout out, Warner. Shout out, Lorna.

Shout out, man. And you guys are getting all the sick tours. The one of you guys got coming up is with Chelsea Grin. Yeah. Yeah. That one I'm stoked for as well. Our boys. With our boys.

Wow, with that. Chelsea Grin. Left to suffer. Carnifex. I'm very, it's going to be a fucking fun tour, man. Those are all our boys. Yeah. Yeah, this is like literally homie fest for us because we've toured with Carnifex before.

They're great. I left to suffer our boys. Yeah. And I met a couple of the Chelsea Grinned dudes the last time I was out here with Nick Arthur. Yeah, Nick Arthur, yeah. And I have not seen Chelsea with Tom yet, so I'm looking forward to that. I really like what they've been doing with him. I haven't seen them since Warped Tour the last Warped Tour.

It's funny, dude, it was like, what, 2018 or 19 or something? Dude, I was there. I met them at the booth. and I was like, who would have thought? Fast forward. I'm like, now I'm, that's insane, dude. It's so rad because, like, this is all, like, like, Tray's still, like, in that, that mindset of where he's, like,

so stoked on all these things that are happening, right? Because it's like, which we all still are, too, to a degree, don't get me wrong. Sure. But, like, we're like, yeah, we're going to go on to tour with these sick-ass big bands. And cool, we've done this, and it's awesome. And we're not used to it, but, you know what I mean? Sure. But he's, like, calm.

He's like, bro, I, what? what the hell this is insane like you know it's like stars in his eyes it's fucking cool he uh what was the last week he uh or earlier this week actually like monday he calls me he's like what you doing i'm like oh you know he's about to go to bed he's like cool always he's telling me all these plans for like you know our shows and stuff out here and he's like oh by the way we're gonna be on uh garza's podcast saturday i was like oh that's soap for you guys he's like no you'll be on it too i was like what like no way dude i'm like sitting here like don't fang

old bro. So if you're not familiar, Trey plays for Worm Shepherd. Yes. Yeah. Now, Wormsherber's sick-ass fucking band. You know my band? Yes. That's insane. Thank you so much. Well, this is my band now. It's sick, man.

It's fucking cool. I was like, actually I think I saw your name pop up. Because it's where that social media knows who the fuck you are. And that's weird of like, oh, like, because kind of like with the suggested friends. And you, I I think I remember you pop in with why why is this guy going to pop up is it make it so weird how it that album the album rich as we all followed him was it ritual

oh yeah that's so fucking weird man that's the album that they their last album that they put out has done incredibly well yeah like it's been put on all the ritual hymns yeah um it got put on like a lot of these really cool playlist it was one of the best 10 best or we were on that list with uh I think you guys were you guys on it I think so we weren't on it because we didn't have an album out yet With Warner, the top 10 best Death Corps albums of like 20, 22. Yeah, that album's fucking awesome. We hit Billboard, man. We hit the top 23 and 24 in like top metal releases and stuff because we were nervous, man. Yeah, there it is. We were nervous because we were going to, we were releasing the same day. We're called the Big Four, I guess, in Death Corps, you know, Shadow Enterprise Earth,

all released the album. And we're like, well, fit for an autopsy. I'm like, well, this is the most, for us, this is the most terrible day to release an album. We're not going to get streams. And then all of a sudden, like, people making these polls on Facebook going like, yeah, Richelhems is my favorite of these. I'm like, yeah, dude, you guys held your own during that. Yeah, I'm just very grateful for every opportunity.

Yeah, fucking Devin's legit, bro. Yeah, Devin, shout out. I love you so much. Fucking ridiculous vocalist. He really is. He's literally top. You guys are so tight live, too. It's insane.

Like, we were on the science tour with them, and I was just watching them. I was like, damn, this band is so fucking sick. It was really cool talking to Devin. too because Devin can do so many different vocals. It's ridiculous. And we were like going back and forth and I'm like, what the fuck, dude? How do you, you know? And he was asking me stuff.

And it was really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just very grateful for everybody that's listened to Worm Shepherd and supported. And oh boy, that's our first show. Don't click on that one. Click on it. You're fucked. That's our first ever show.

It was great. But yeah, dude, like, I don't know. You guys are sick. All the opportunities that personally I've been given, like, including obviously this one is like mind-blowing to me because I would never in a million years think like Chase, I was on the phone with Chase and like this was months

ago, you know, and he's like I'm just talking to him like random conversation and it comes up and he's like yeah, we're looking for a guitar player you know like I said earlier and you know your name's the only one that's been throwing around. I'm like what? Like seriously?

And like, you know, to me I'm like I don't think I'm anything special truthfully, but these guys see something. Well, with us, I mean, with us, it's not, like, it's not only, like, skill or looks or any of this stuff. We have to have a relationship with you. We have to, we're going to spend more time with you than most people. Like, you know, like, I think, like, Ding's name as well was the only one we really talked about as well because we get so along with them so well. We're all, that's such a big important part of this, man.

We have to be able to essentially be like a family. You know, if we get into it, we have to be a. able to reconcile and apologize and be which we've done. It's awesome. And, you know, the people that we want in this band are like, we hung out with Trey on that tour and we loved him. Yeah. We hung out with

Ding. One of my favorite people on the tour. We went and had dinner with Levi and we loved him. I mean, they tried everyone else before. They just had me. It's like, I guess we'll get this guy. Well, I think I'm breaking. I just happen to be in town. I'm breaking the, I'm breaking the stigma of like, I'm the only a guitar player I think you've had

in the last two runs that have had hair. I think so. Oh yeah. Because Bryce and Matt were both bald. We got a little bit of a change. But you did cut it off, though.

It's not long anymore. We almost had every member have long hair. We love you, Chase. No, but thank you guys. Seriously. Well, I mean, that's a good thing. Yeah, it's kind of funny.

Like, almost like the personality is more like important. That's what I think, yeah, man. So, Ding is for. fucking sick, right? I try. The thing about Ding is, Ding is, like, for the most part, he's just very laid back, give or take a few things, which everybody has, right?

There's times. Driving. That's a biggest big, ballie, man. We're trying to get a driver, so if anybody out there's looking to drive for a man. Okay, real quick, Ding, I got to ask, because I know people are going to want to know, where did the nickname come from? It's the first syllable of my last name. My last name is Dingler.

And that sounds like a made-up thing as it is. It does. So, you know, if you just cut off the first syllable, it's like, you know, everybody knows, like, you know, there's like, you know, there's like people named Ming. There's people name like Ching and, you know, I'm ding. Hey, man, it's sick, sick. This is why we love Bing. He's so fun. I'm sick, man.

Yeah. It's fucking rad. The thing is also very crucial to the live sound aspect of the band. So that's why we keep them around. Well, you know, I'm not going to... So at first thing, it was on guitar. Yeah. And it ended up working out better for him on bass.

Of course. And I was a little hesitant because I was like, I don't know how he's going to look with the bass, blah, blah, blah. But he looks better with a bass than a guitar. Yeah, to be so long. Like, he has more of a bass player, like, at least for our sound and for our stage presence and stuff.

I think he just, it's... The bass fits him so much look-wise. I have so much more fun playing bass than I do solo. That's another thing. You can move around. I was losing sleep, like, trying to keep all those, like, all those scales and stuff straight. Yeah, I'm losing a story. I mean, as, as, Trey, there's a lot of arpeggios and a lot of things.

Yep, there you go. I'm going to have fun with those. Yeah. Actually, to say something, I didn't even know he played guitar until, like, he followed me. And I was like, oh, he plays guitar, too. That's sick. Like, so, I love you. Yeah.

Everybody here's multi-instrumental, except for me. I attempt to play guitar. and I am awful at it. He can, he can, I can chuck a lot. Yeah, he can chug a lot of. I can chug, I can do that. Yeah, I can do some stuff. I can do some scales, but nothing that I would ever attempt to record.

Never. You don't need you, man. You have a fucking sick voice to you if you're fine. Thanks, man. You're fine. Thanks. You know, I'm, um, it still trips me out that people dig it, so, you know. Who was, uh, who was the one that was trying not to do this?

Someone was. What? Try not to do what? No, you, you told me, right? someone's a little bit shy shy uh no i don't remember i don't remember no you mean the podcast or was or was it brad maybe oh maybe it's brad i don't know maybe i thought i thought brad would also yeah brad did you tell me that someone wouldn't do it do what the podcast yeah no it was either you no i'm not i don't know he's going he's getting the phone receipts check date receipts check date receipts

My goodness. Well, anyway, I'm glad that it worked out to where, like, the whole bands here is a fucking sick. Great, great vibe. This is awesome. Thank you so much. If you're listening to this, this is Monday and the record drops March 24th on Friday. So basically, if you're probably listening to it, you're probably, well, go check out the record right the fuck now. Yeah, that would be rad.

That would be cool if you guys go listen. O'Slphur is the sickest deathcore band on the planet. So you got it. My personal favorite. Wow. Thank you. That's fucking awesome. That's cool, man.

You got, you guys are awesome. It's weird. You know what you like someone when like you listen to them in your spirit time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me put it on a song.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just pumped you listen to it in the gym. That's cool for me. Yeah. I'm like, oh, shit. Yep. Got to grow the boobs.

You guys help me get this fucking peat. There we go. You know what I'm saying? You put on the. the song and then you just turn into Ricky. Am I, am I, am I, Ricky Hoover? Just start shape shifting.

I can feel like as power. Start like, I like the shapeshifting. I'm not in the hard time. I can feel the hatred inside. You're growing. When you turn on the song, you're like, I think I've had too many energy drinks.

Oh my goodness. So where can you find you guys? Is that heart palpitations? Where can people find you? IG, fucking. Facebook? What's up? IG, Facebook.

Twitter, YouTube, Apple Music, everything, Spotify, Deezer, Title. Yeah, title. Listen to us on title. Please listen to us on title. Sick. Love you guys. Thank you again. Love you, buddy.

Everyone, that's it. Later.