Garza Podcast - 73 - JESUS PIECE: East Coast Aggression, SNL & Rejecting the "Beatdown" Label

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

Garza sits down with Philadelphia metalcore band Jesus Piece. In this episode we shout out a ton of sic bands for you to check out. How Aaron got to sing on a Sanguissugabogg track, non-metal influeneces & much more! Their new album ...So Unknown is out this 4/14! https://www.jesuspiecehc.com SPONSORS: Click this link to purchase from Sweetwater & help support the podcast: imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB Jesus Piece is: Aaron Heard - Vocals David Updike - Guitar John DiStefano - Guitar Anthony Marinaro - Bass Luis Aponte - Drums TIME CODES: 00:00 - Sanguisugabogg’s “Face Ripped Off” w/ Aaron 04:46 - Putrid Stu, C.B.T. & Pornogrind/Goregrind 10:08 - D-Beats & Writing w/ Drummer, Luis Aponte 17:30 - Being Friends Before the Band 19:57 - East Coast Heaviness & Growing Up w/ Death Metal 22:43 - Limewire & Pantera Live in Moscow 24:10 - Stolen Van 27:30 - Show Me the Body Tour 29:49 - ...So Unknown (Writing & Recording Process) 44:10 - Jesus Piece Crazy Live Shows 46:20 - Shouting Out All the Sick Bands 50:51 - Rejecting the “Beatdown” Label & Discovering Great Music 59:45 - Non-Metal Influences & Sounding Unique 01:06:42 - Luis Drumming for Charli XCX on SNL, HateFiveSix, FYA Fest 01:15:48 - Halfway Through the 1st Tour in Five Years, Warped Tour & Sour Patch Kids 01:20:00 - If You Think Too Much, You Won’t Do It

Oh, there's something about that beat, dude. That snare is so nuts. In the warehouse. St. Anger's snare, but it sounds dope. Between Aaron and him for the best mosher's in the band, too. We're both sick-assed moshes. But Aaron is a hard mosher. Lewis is a fluid mosher.

A fluid mosher. He's great. He's like a dancer. Whenever I need music gear, I always go to sweetwater.com. It's mics, headphones, or studios. and recording gear sweet water has you covered next time you need any music gear support the podcast by using the link in a description and comment section below when they asked me to do this part they're like we're gonna send you the lyrics i was like all right let's check it out

and i i definitely was like i'm gonna get like fucked up for saying these words Because they might Bucked up lyrics, huh? Mine weren't the worst, but it's definitely about killing and holding someone in a bathtub and just like showering in their blood. That's heavy.

It's pretty dark shit. You kind of expected that, though, without that. Yeah, for sure. Definitely. Your part is so sick, dude. Thanks. I recorded it in my bedroom. Did you really?

You serious? With your setup? Yeah, I got a little seven. I actually didn't even recognize your vocals at first. So you did, so you tracked it in your room, but what about the video? Oh, they just kind of called me randomly. And I was chilling my baby. They were like, yo, we're in Wilkes-Barre filming a video.

And I was like, that's what's up. I did it really expect. They're like, can you come do the part? And it's like a two-hour drive. Yeah. And I'm like, fuck it. Yeah, I'll come. him up there.

So me and my little man hop in the whip, go drive up there. See, like, my cousin, some family up there. And then we went to an abandoned church. Did they hit you up day of? Yeah. Are you serious? That's what it got.

That's a far shot, too. That's a hard. There was no plan. Hey, we're here doing the video that you did vocals for. You want to come down? Maybe I'll give them the credit and say maybe night before. Okay. Just the case I'm forgetting.

That's still weird. Yeah. It's like, hey, can you normally plan for like, you know, three months in the band? Yeah, of course. Get, like, you know, plane tickets or Uber, you know? You know what, you did the vocals, how hard in advance? Like, I did those, like, mad long ago. And they just decided, like, yo, we want you on the video.

Yeah, I guess the people who were doing the video were like, if he's around, why isn't he in the video? Like, it doesn't make sense. I was like, oh, yeah, it does make sense. So, I just so. Hopped up in there and took the ride. But it was cool because I got to, you know, take him a little man up to the mountain. of Poconos, you know. You have to see a lot of really cool shit that he doesn't see in the city.

Yeah. Like it was the changing of the leaves. Everything was like orange and yellow and shit. Yeah. He was like, trees. I was like, I know, dude. Oh, my goodness. Can you believe it?

It's like, what's green? It's crazy. These aren't buildings everywhere. Yeah. Oh, yeah, true. So, Abani, I'm still struggling. I had to say. Sanguissauga.

Sangua Sugabag. Yeah, there it is. That, they, they, disrupt the new record like this weekend it's fucking sick it is fucked up and then if you're if you're listening watching me yeah we are talking about that band Aaron your your part is fucking sick dude thanks it's great and that band so it happened twice actually sometimes the universe just throws things at you and you kind of have to watch it or or listen that band was one of them because i was listening to tsunami for a while because they were just here yeah and when their

music stops on Spotify they come on every time so it kept coming on and then with you guys i'll be jamming you guys constantly then it stops they and they come on i was like the universe is telling me something shout out the algorithm little cute yeah for real i wish i'm not gonna lie though i wish it was putrid stew though yo putrid stew so the drummer like writes it like does most of the shit i mean i know for sang was cuckoobog in the beginning i'm sure the other dudes now obviously help out and stuff but yeah putrid's do he does like a bunch of bands and a lot of them will be like he has this like i forget what it's called like like he's like literally 15 bans murder man

murder man is sick it's the sickest he's a big called scag which is like which is like insanely like it's like disgusting d-beat but putrid stew is my favorite and it's putrid stu and it's literally like I don't want to call

it's not pornogrine but it's it's gorgrind but it's like that's my shit personally like porno grind well goregrine brutal death metal and stuff I've ever heard porn and grind in a long time but the reason I like

I'm picky with it too like I mean it's like the the line between like goofy court like very like yeah this shit whoa okay

if you go if you put on the one no put on if you type in putrid stew like type in putrid stew real quick this specific

I mean he has on his band camp he has actually a discography thing if you just like do like a general search of it. The record, yeah, the record comes up. It's also, actually, you know what?

His drum videos, I don't know if you love drum cams, his drum cam. Yeah, dude, just put on that one right there. This shit is, so. Okay. But like,

I love a good slow blast. But it's like, like the vocals. Oh. Gurgle vocals, like that's my shit. The toilet bowl. Toiliple vocals. Start the song off with like a bong hit. But like,

he's like he's probably my favorite current drummer for sure yeah what's the name uh Cody Cody yeah Cody Davidson he's the shit and like thing is also like because I'm like I'm for sure a picky death metal person and I'm like definitely like a hate I'm definitely a hater but um I like I like he's always I'm I definitely a hater but it's out of love of course yeah but no I saw Sangu-Bag and they were fucking sick and then I talked to him after and I knew he knew what was up but like talking to him and like it's very rare you can meet somebody that can talk to you like yo like you like like you like do you remember like the discord record from this year and like talking about like really like kind of like I don't know

like deeper weirder bands or whatever yeah he was on my space yeah romper prop and shit like yo it's on my space holy moly yeah that's sick well today we got 80% of jesus peace yeah what up good to see you guys man holy moly Thank you for having us. They are. If you don't know their music, they're extreme pornogrine from Philly.

From Poconos. Yeah, Pocono Pornow. Can we do a quick intro? Yeah, most of. Yeah, what's up? I'm Aaron Hurd from Jesus Peace. And this is other people from Jesus. Okay.

Is it a podcast or pro? Wait, it's live? I don't know what kind of intro is supposed to be. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're in Jesus Peace, yeah. Wait, is this live? You're done?

No. It's not live? Fuck, no, dude. Oh, my God. No way. Like, is that Twitch stream thing? Do you bleep out all the curse words? Like, you say, fuck.

It's like, no. Introduce yourself, John. I'm John. I play guitar. Hey, I'm Alex. I'm filling in on bass. Hey, I'm David. I play guitar.

And I love Pornogrine. Dude, what are some other porn of grind bands? I haven't heard that genre name in a long time. I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't, that's the funny side of it. Gore grind is sick.

Of course. Pornor, porn, that's like, that's a joke. I mean, there's like semi-hundred-hast. It's like literally funny and bad. Oh, dude. Bro, it's on,

it's on catatonic youths, bro. Okay, so it's on, it's on the wiki. Is there like a list of bands? I'm sure. Goregrine is the, yeah, controversy. It's, it's bullshit.

It's, not there, notable bands. Dude. Um, oh, dude. No, what was the band that played obscene extreme? Zero tolerance.

Where they have the, um, the, The music video is literally them in a guy's gut and they're they're prepping his shit. What was dude? Gutalax. Gutalax. Good. Cuttax.

Oh, cock and ball torture. Dude, cock and ball torture is amazing. They are legendary. They have legitimate riffs. I mean, dude, they're, I mean, they're, I mean, they're. It's serious. Googling cock and ball. Hey, don't pull many pictures, dude.

Do not even, do not go on the safe searches. Oh, baby. Yeah, man. Fucking raw. Oh my goodness, dude. Where are they from? Europe, duh. Eastern Europe?

Duh. I think of what. What you say? Oh, German, okay. German. Tissue. Wow, okay. Well, that's sick.

Dude, the thing, I was saying, like, there's such like a, all original members. There's such a fine line, though, where it's, like, sick music, but, like, really annoying, like, like, gimmicks and, like, obviously, like, horrible shit. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I don't know. That's a whole other podcast, though, I guess. You can do a...

Of course. Well, I'm... All right, there's shit flying. But if you ever... What are you doing over there, dude? Nothing, dude. Don't... I coughed a little bit, some shit.

Shout up over our shoulder. It was crazy. The first track on... Oh, pussy is good. What is... What is... Oh, that's a... Oh, it's a...

Okay. Oh, give us a good five seconds. Do this try? This shit's crazy, yeah. Oh. Ready? Then it goes in a blast. Oh, this is sick.

That tempo of blast is something about that tempo of blasting. Yeah, the alternate. It's a sweet spot. You can get out of any drum to some many other. I can not to pretend really well. Same. Yeah. I kill it at Air Drummond. Yeah.

But he plays, he can drum. Put drum a little bit. I can, yeah, like, I can, I can hold down a beat. I couldn't play a set. But, you know what I mean? But, like, you know, it's like, I can hear something. I can be like, okay, do like a thing or whatever, like a d-beat. Like, we always, me and, me and Lou always talk about, like,

D-beats versus, like, fake and real D-beats where it's like, there's like the, but then there's, like, it's like, have the, you say you're the bass drum is always going. Oh, yeah. Like the real, kind of like the old-school, like. Yeah. Yeah. Versus, like, yeah.

I mean, you know. Yeah. That's not. Okay. It's very, very, very distinct. It is. That's the real DB shit. And you ask a drummer, it's like, yo, can you play a DB?

And it's like, like, dang. Well, I guess Luz out, right? Yeah, right. Lave's out. Dave's in. That's been crazy. We were talking about that. Like, if, like, Lou broke his leg or some shit, like, who would be the next drummer

line with the band? Like, no one. Do you lose a very important piece to your band because you need a sick drummer, dude. Oh, I mean, if you have a sick drummer, I mean, it's pretty much done. Yeah. I mean, he's also sick, but he also has, like, a very specific way of playing. Like, we've had fillins before, and, well, it was Keith, other than Keith, other than Keith, other than Keith has anyone else filled with drums for a few in mouth now, right?

He did, he did. There's been some guest drummers, Anaya. Yeah, I mean, Anaya and a few other people. Like, in certain, like, songs, but. Yeah, I know. Playing without him, we've played songs and says without him, and it's, like, You can play the song, but it's a stylistically very different thing. Yeah.

I don't explain it. Because even, I mean, we wrote our record. It was kind of like this disdointed thing where we had to get other people to help us just to get. Because me and John don't write. This is a whole, sorry, I'm ranting real quick. But like, me and John, right. Let's go. I can't write without a drummer.

I suck at writing by myself. And with, you know, I just, whatever. And Lou lives in New York. We live in Philly. COVID. It was a whole thing. Sure. So we had our friend help us out.

And he's a very like... Tyler. Yeah. Shadda, Tyler, Washington, foreign hands, excite. But like, he's a very, like, I don't want to say traditional, but, you know, you think of like a metal core metal drummer.

It's like, you know, very like... Very, like, straightforward. He's also a guitarist, which really came in handy with the writing. But I'm saying stylistically, like, Lou has this, like, kind of, like, looseness to it. Whereas, like, he doesn't have, like, the... He doesn't think, like, I remember, I think it was.

this only self we are like live like the like you're right trying to cough but like you know like you know like the classic like you kind of like open up a set or something it's like that like that oh yeah like a do go do or whatever yeah he like doesn't think like like like we said open he's got too much style for like a normal metal drum yeah like he plays with a certain amount of swing to where yeah it doesn't necessarily give off he's trying too hard he just has the swagger when he plays. A lot of swag. Yeah.

Like, he just goes, shit ton of swag. Like, when old heads would be like, you got boxy. Like, that, that motherfucker's got boxy covered out of his ears.

You could watch it too. Honestly, a better drum cam set, I feel like is Detroit, the 8-5-6 Detroit set. Mm-hmm. Because, like, that is like newer songs.

We didn't practice before this set. Yeah, we always never practiced. Jake, can you, can you pull it up, please? It's Detroit.

It's the summer of 2022. It's Detroit. Oh, so it's recent. Yeah, tied down Fess. Tied down Fess, yeah. Shout to that Fess is awesome too. That show was crazy. That was like one of the best run,

best feeling sets ever. And Fess. I felt like vocally that day like my fucking, I felt husky dog. Also, if you like... Husky? So there's a drum...

There's a drum cam. You're jacked up, dude. That's a... There's a drum cam to it. Just tell you, I would just type in Detroit because he doesn't do it by... Detroit Scroll down

Is it like two more Three more up or something Are you looking for the drum Did he release it? Yeah yeah it's on there I would take out tied down Because he doesn't put He doesn't put

He's a Detroit Drum Yeah there we go Boom There it is Oh there we go Let's go That and the snare is great

On this Get the kid up here Louis you not here right now I love you baby Wherever you at in this world Yeah Oh there's something about that dude.

The snare sounded cool. Snare in the warehouse. St. Anger's snare, but it sounds dope. No, way better than that. What can a scenario is that? That one he's using as pork pie, but we just got... Is that the pork pie? No, that's the pork pie.

Is it? Or maybe not. It looks clear. It looks kind of orange because of the lighting, but he got an SJC kid. No, that's SJC. Is it? Yeah. The pool pie's been sent in my house for a lot.

Oh, okay. Then yeah, SJC, you got acrylic. Yeah. Sick, dude. He has a full clear acrylic, acrylic. acrylic kit and it sounds so... It does so good. Okay, where did you find this guy?

I mean, he's been our... Yeah, I mean, he's been our friend. He's laughing. We scouted them. Let's hear. What? They found him first. You found him?

Well, there's no finding. It was just, like, he was a friend. I mean, we were all living in the Lehigh Valley. He was, like, just a friend. Yeah, I mean, like, we all knew each other or whatever. And then, I forget what the catalyst was, because we actually didn't like each other. Really?

Yeah. I mean, like, I was in, like, metal and metal core and shit. And he, he is punk. Like, he came from punk.

Like, you never listened to, like, metal core, death, nothing, nothing like that. Oh, okay.

But he liked, like, devourment. Like, legit, he liked very specific, like, really heavy shit,

you know, and, like, moshing. He loves, also, it's a competition between Aaron and him for the best moshes in the band,

too. We're both sick-ass mosh. Yeah. But Aaron is a hard mosher. Lewis is a is a fluid, a fluid mosher. A fluid mosher. He's like, he's like a dancer. Yeah, he's not trying to kill anymore.

Yeah, Lou's got just flat out style in the pit. I love it. But me, I got style, but I'm not moving around a little bit. He's trying to fuck some people up. I like doing spin kicks. Are you still in there, dude? Sometimes. Maybe, like, maybe.

I think the last time you mosh was when we put, When I was playing, with me and John were playing with Cedar Paine? Yeah, yeah. They were filling with Seahos' band. This is hardcore. And I was like, well, fuck me. So he's in a band called Ced of Payne,

but he was on tour with his other band, Magnitude. So me and John filled in for this is hardcore and Aaron Moshed. Yeah, it came through. With the heat. It's like, show young boys how I get the fuck down.

This is how you fucking do it. Straight up, but show him what's up sometimes. But we hated, we hated each other, and then we became friends. We worked at guitar center together. and then we became friends

us three. Well, it was me and him and that's how we kind of got tight and then you guys you came in and there was a very small time period where all three of us worked but then I had to quit because I was touring and then this was way before G's B's. Well not way, I mean what three years, two years

and then yeah that's how we there was no finding we're all friends and I knew him from you know it was all like me it was it was me and Lou and then we just kind of all went like we all kind of came together Your psycho energy brains is like, hide mind, dude, and then Jesus' peace is born.

Yeah, it was born out of the ashes. I still remember the first practice? I was like, hey, what were you guys? Like, we had all kind of crossed paths over the years, you know what I mean? Like, just playing in little metal bands in Pennsylvania or Eastern Pennsylvania and going to shows in Jersey, you know, Wilkeshire, Philadelphia. year but we never really like let's all be buddies you know what I mean I was trying to jam with him for for John forever but it was never never like happened like I mean we're only the two

years apart but difference between you know a 20 year old and an 18 year old and like I feel like it's like high school versus out versus like whatever and and he was I mean I don't want to speak on behalf of you but I feel like our music tastes were pretty different at the time I'll say different I mean we just had our own things going like Like I had like a couple bands going at the time and like I just, I don't know. Yeah, but we tried. When we try to jam. Like we try, but like we, when this happened, huh?

Like, what, what, what, I was, like, more metalcore into then, actually a band that he was in. It was, like, grind, like, heavy grind power balance kind of stuff. Yeah. But, uh, we just like. I'm saying, bull. I'm saying before that way before. Nothing right. Well, I mean, that was.

I'm saying when we tried to. Oh, okay. Like, I'm talking like. Oh, yeah. When we just, like, hit the practice base and, like, try to, like, like, right. some lips together, yeah. But, I don't know. When the timing was right.

Yeah. Yeah, straight up. Timing's a big thing, dude. It is. It really was. So, he will be like, oh, no, I hate you. And then, like, a few years later, I would be in a man together, you know?

It was just, like, so many talented people in that general area, but nobody was doing anything. You know, all of our friends were good at instruments, but nothing was happening. You know, it was kind of sad to see. Yeah, Philly, like, what, I mean, like, the hardcore scene out there is popping. you guys are pissed

Oh yeah And what's I mean What are you guys drinking Like what's in the water dirt You guys fucking pissed That's just the East Coast So

East Coast shit's always been aggressive Man and Whether it be like The death metal Coming out of New York Or out of our area It's always been Like its own touch

Of aggressive You can always kind of Like tell A death metal band Is from Long Island Or like from New York You know what I mean Hey

Hey yo We're one more tissue From Long Island Yeah Mortician is from there, huh? Oh, that's a great photo. I may hear Nettian pop up the past two months constantly. What a great photo.

Yeah. Me and Lou just saw them a little bit ago. How was it? They're still awesome. Gosh. Live drummer, sounds great. Are they a three piece? They're two piece, but they just added a drummer, I think.

Yeah. Now I think they're a four. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, they have a rhythm. And, yeah. They had a full band. It sounded awesome.

yeah will we'll legend hard yeah i keep i keep hearing about that name uh that the band and will as i i'm hearing about it in the past few months my all right i got a question for you what kind of what what what what metal were you into when you were like 18 19 20 like what were you jamming yeah what were you up to extreme music wise uh you know how like you have a period where you find something but you're gonna jamming it for 10 years yeah i mean once uh really really uh condensed when corn slip knot and to Fear Factory Cannibal. That was a span

like a couple years and then like when you hit found skinless and that was pretty much it It's nice Yeah Skinless open up a big door

Yeah Like like I heard like progression towards evil And that's just open up All you add in like The groove aspect To death metal

Then you found You know You know Derm suffering And then Wormed I was like Wormed is the shit

Wormed is the shit The drummer in that band Is a monster Oh RIP Yeah I mean A beast Dude. Yeah. Yeah, just really like an old-school, like, deaf and old nerd. I mean, I see my, I, was it?

You like Pestolus? I haven't heard much of them, no. Pestolins, I feel like, that's like, that's like a not, that's more like, it's not, that's more, it's not, it's not brutal. It's not like heavy. It's like more, it's thrash. It is more thrashing. But do hard. You remember at mp3.com? What is it? MP3.com. Number three.com.

Oh, no. And that was like, dude, like, you could just go down, like, the rabbit hole, like, metal. bands. Tye found. She's just all doing shit over there. The dude who, uh, the vocalist on consuming impulse on, Pestilus is the same. He's asked, the asphix vocalist.

Yeah. I love that. Dude, yeah. I do not remember that load. That's not the logo. I don't know. Live wire. This is my gateway.

Yeah, definitely. Do not download porn from mine wire. You are fuck. Yeah. No, no, no. It's, no, no, you download a song. You download a song. It's like, my name is Bill Clinton.

And I do not have sexual relations with that one. Oh, yeah. You would download like audio bites, huh? I forgot about that. I had, I downloaded the Pantera 1991 Soviet concert or whatever. Like when they were trying to like, like when

it was right before they like, I think it was maybe 1990, but it was Pantera and the Soviet Union. Yeah, it's literally, I downloaded. I remember I watched that shit. The Cowboys from Hell. Yeah, that shit, bro. The Cowboys from Hell video, I watched that.

I can't tell you many times because I thought dime bag is like the hardest. That's so many. Look, oh, a fucking people. Dude, and there's, there's, like, crazy. Like, they cut between, like, uh, like the cops, like trying to, like, they're like, yeah, like the subway and the cops are like hitting people and shit.

Dude. It's so sick. But, yeah, I downloaded this concert, like, online. And I was, like, I watched this shit sometimes. I don't Sherwin's been at those recent fest where they've been playing. They sound good. Really? Sounds good.

Pantera. I know, man. Phil sounds amazing. this is such a great addition to a podcast is having like a guy just google everything watch videos and shit well dudes i mean i'm still you guys be here apparently you guys almost didn't make it our our band was stolen yesterday that's all and stole our fucking bad yo what were you sleeping or what i mean we were sleeping it must have been in a span of like five or six hours yeah we weren't sleeping that long that's it we pulled up to the crib at 2 30 yeah and we

woke up at 8.30. Yeah, I woke up at 8.30. I was like, oh shit, someone took the van, I guess. Maybe Dave got the wheel changed. I was like, and Dave was sleeping. I was like, bro, did you move the van? He was like, no, why? I'm like, let me just go double check.

Maybe like, I'm like still waking up. And yeah, it was not there. Check the air tags. Yeah, luckily we have some trackers in that van, so we were able to find it pretty quickly. But that would have been the swift end of the store. That's your biggest fear. It is, man.

story. We've never had it happen to us. We're really good about it. And the one day we didn't put our trailer locks on, boom. They got it. They got our asses. They must have been following us. I swear. They must have been. That's my theory. Is that they followed us from the venue?

Who knows? I would not be surprised. People are desperate out there, dude. I mean, I never know who's watching. If you're listening, I'm a beat your ass. Okay, so, So you had air tags in the van and then you look, okay, it's eight minutes away. And then, and then what happens? We literally brought him in a park.

And we took an Uber there. And it was parked. Parked very nicely like on the side of curb like in the neighborhood. Yeah. Why? There's two, what's that? No, I was going to let you go with that one. Well, there's two theories.

One was an air tag when you're not, it's not yours. Like, if you have an iPhone, it says an air tag is following you, so they got spooked. or I said something on Twitter asking about like a mechanic or whatever and someone was said like and I was pissed so I said something else but like they were like I guess guys like will

they'll take something they'll steal a car they'll park it up wait like a day to see if someone gets it because air tags are a thing now and then if they don't they scrap it what the fuck really? Yeah apparently that's like the that's like

because someone else was saying if I don't I mean who fucking knows but if like if you say it to a hop or whatever like yo I have an air tag in there and show them they can like legally like that's a warrant like that's a warrant I guess yeah so they can do that if they would have taken the van back to wherever they were doing that like it would have been fucked yeah like because we would have busted that you what I mean like we would find out everything they're doing so it's actually smart I would have bought a gun down the street I had a big ass knife in my bag I would keep it really

pimp oh my goodness I was so hung over and I was not happy about the situation I'll tell you that but I just didn't want anybody to get hurt and nobody did. Thankfully, I kind of, I mean, obviously that's a terrible way to start your day and then, but I mean... Don't steal from us. Especially on an off day.

Yeah, I wanted to I wanted to chill so bad. You're supposed to go to a gym. Go to a spa. We didn't get to chill until 2 p.m. That's, it could have been I could have been so much worse. Yeah, for sure.

It could have been worse. I mean. I mean, shit, well, obviously, the reason why you're here and you have a band in trailer that you just got back I mean you're on tour right now with a show me in a body which is an incredible band. You like it?

I've been on steps with that band lately. Do a banjo? Dude, I feel like people like either love or hate it. Love it. And you know what? It's like we've played shows of them before and the music's very interesting but I don't I wouldn't catch myself listening to it live but they're set I don't know if you're coming tonight. Their set

is so sick because I don't know, I told Julianness and stuff, and like, they, joins a singer, but like, this is like a nerd thing to say, and I feel like you could understand. Like, the flow of their set is perfect. Like, they pick the right way to kind of like have the dips and waves and have like the energetic songs with, because they have like more ballity songs and stuff. And the flow is perfect. To like to get the crowd psyched. Then they like kind of like dip it down a little bit. They come back.

It's really good. It's nicely curated for sure. Oh, it's really awesome. they're sick also yeah also yeah i mean as people too they're fucking awesome i love harland love jackie too um well yeah literally all of them great guys so there's their overall is the sick fucking man dude what's that dude look julian the fader of the bottom right what is that he looks so funny no not fantano right the next to it he looks that one is that him is that a julya look like oh no that's that's what dude that looks so weird bro it does not look like that is that it's

really funny he like doesn't look like that anymore that's really funny well apparently I mean this tour and took what three years to fucking happen yeah well no I mean they did not we've always talked to them but this is our this is our first non this is our first non rescheduled tour back mm oh I thought this was rescheduled from like the code orange no this is completely this is just separate from new oh wow okay happened that's the perfect time for all these bands too straight oh yeah we haven't tour the US in like four years timing Zulu records coming out Friday I think scowls comes out in like two weeks and ours comes out in like a month and a half.

No, the little one came out today. Today? It's on Friday. No, no. Yeah, it's on Friday. Yeah, since we're already on the subject, your record comes out May 14th. April 14th. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm 37. I still not know my months. That's okay. I don't. That's all right. So I always go confused May and April. I always do that.

My birthday's in May. Beautiful. So April 14th. And this will come out, this episode will come out on a 10th. So the week of. Sick. Boom. Oh, sick. Nice.

Good push. Appreciate you. Okay, so your band is a perfect example because it happened in me. You only have two seconds. You only have two seconds to get someone's attention. And I was scrolling my IG. This is how I found you guys. And you just, you guys just dropped an offering to the night.

And literally, I'm scrolling. I see the real. I heard the two seconds. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, boom. Also, like, they got to be on the podcast. Yeah, hell, yeah. And that, and that's it. Yeah.

DB. That's the DB. That's the drum music. That's it. That's it. That's it. We, and the thing is, we didn't want to do a normal whatever. And when we were recording it or when writing or whatever, that we were like, let's do a D.B.

That's literally too fast. Yeah. And that's what, so it's literally, like, he's actually doing the, the fast bass bass. Oh, wow. Well, we have a badass drummer, so you got to fucking, you've got to utilize it, you know? Yeah, the singles you've been dropping Got three so far I mean people are jamming it

I hope so Yeah Put a lot of work on this record Yeah It's been Yeah You could tell because I mean Your last record came out

2018 What there is what like Like a five years span Yeah There was a big break What were you guys doing For five years? You know

All kinds of shit Yeah I like to not go back Yeah Right Yeah For a little bit I was playing bass

With nothing and I was going back and forth between the two touring So a lot of the times There would be a lot of scheduling issues And then on top of that You know quarantine and then I had a fucking baby Which is awesome shout out to my kid

Leo Theo sickest dude ever So there was just a lot of shit happening Life, you know life None of the less Yeah I mean me and Dave like We didn't really have much time to write together

And we were like in between spaces too practice spaces I'll be honest you I was just insanely depressed oh yeah for quarantine and stuff it sucks like a little bit before that we had major writers block and we were just like really fuck yeah I mean yeah because we didn't

I don't know we still know what's going on yeah I don't I mean I it's like there's so much to talk about so I want to get too deep into it but it's like for specifically with music though like for me like in us and during quarantine like for our music like you you know you can make a comparison since we're fans of whatever, but ultimately when I try and write, I don't have like a

oh, like I listen to this band so I want to do this or I like want to worship this type of sound or whatever. So that makes it harder to write. You know what I mean? And both of us like were like, what's our net? We were literally, I remember being in my bedroom being in my bedroom and be like what's our what's the vibe for our next record? Because we didn't want to do

only self again. Yeah. And so that on top of the quarantine, on top of like, you know, other stuff outside of the band and within the band honestly like it was just it was so tough so yeah I mean it was just like a very for like two years we literally maybe wrote like four riffs what yeah as a for band for as a band and then like i forget where we were but me and john kind of like you know he was still nothing uh Lewis lives in new was living in New York and still lives in New York but um we were kind of just like

separated and like me and John were like we we kind of like had this like we like we like what like you would show me someone like I don't know. I show you something. You're like, I don't know. But for us, I feel like it takes, like, that one riff to be like, this is the new direction. But I'm talking about, like, we had this, like, this kind of like day. I don't know. I can't.

It wasn't some movie thing where it was just like, one day we were like, we have to do it. We need to do it. We need to do it. Oh, yeah. We decided that we need to write it. Us too, we were like, we need to write a record and like, this, this is it. Like, we need to do this for us. Yeah.

And then if it hits, it hits, if it doesn't, it doesn't. But we just need to feel that through. Yeah. Yeah. but yeah that's what five years looks like well I mean it went by fast well I would say more like three

three years because we wrote it so long ago sure I'm already ready to write another record let's go please that's a that's a really good sign to know when if you're done like writing something and then the record's not even out yet you're already thinking about the next one that's usually like a good sign that you're doing something right even if the record you know flop we have a history

with flop records but if you do something right with your band and we talked about timing you know like If it keeps you thinking about the next one, you did, you did, he did something right, you know. Well, I know, yeah, with you, with you guys, I feel like, you know, like the record you guys are coming out with, it's like the, it's like, it's like, I feel like you guys are going to do it a different thing. You went with like tailored and stuff like that and it's like, yeah, seems like it's like it's like a heavier kind of like more like raw vibe too. Yeah. Yeah. So that's sick. I didn't know for timing and like kind of different and like different stuff or whatever. Dude, totally. I tailored did a great job. You know, he's the first producer in years. Maybe. Maybe. even almost two decades that actually trust you know someone's bullshit in that in that world the whole

like producer world and it's nice to have someone I just know bullshit and just trust yeah thank god he he was he was a very uh refreshing is is the word yeah you know you feel good about it I feel good about the whole experience yeah yeah yeah you know again not nice not even out yet ours comes out in March and all we think about the next one I heard the first single that dropped and I was like you know they're fucking doling uh-oh oh And there's talk, and I feel like there's like, like, like, renewed talk for like a lot of like, because it's like, I'm 31 and like, I mean,

I remember I saw you guys when I was 14. And like, it's like a, you know, there's like, yeah. It's in the foundation. You know what I mean? foundational stuff. But yeah. I feel like a lot of younger kids to me now are like, they heard like the new singles and stuff because it's more kind of like, you know,

Taylor's in that, that world and like it's a little more of a raw, yeah, I think we're young, who shout out. Yeah. I think our music needs a little bit of that raw. And I think a lot.

that gets lost with a lot of producers nowadays. Everything's too squeaky. It's tough to find that I think it guys what you did with the new record, because the past three singles I heard, I think it sounds great. Yeah, yeah. Sounds amazing, bro. Randy. Randy LaBuff.

Actually, yeah, our record was the last record done in Machine Shop. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, we're flooded. The Great Flood. The Great Flood. Yeah. Because they all moved. I know Putney moved out before, but the whole studio was still there. I was the first person to record vocals up there.

Really? In the cabin. Yeah, me and Randy locked ourselves away for like a week and just did vocals up there. I made a bunch of biscuits and gravy and shit. Whoa. Yeah, me and Randy straight up just kicked back and just relaxed and wrote the record. It was awesome. So did you guys already track the music first and then you went in the cabin?

That's the cool, that's an interesting way to do. Well, it was just him actually. My kid and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. I didn't bring him up, but, you know, I didn't want to have to take away time if I didn't need to yet. You know, so I left it in their hands to take care of the music. But it was also one of those things where we started to talk about a flood.

Originally, we had, like, the classic month blocked out for like, you know, do that whole thing. But the studio got flooded and it was a whole thing. So we actually, it was like we did like a week on, week off, week on, week off. And we had to push it back because the studio was like the bottom. Because you guys record, yeah, you guys were there, right? In there. Yeah. Like the bottom, there's like a bottom thing and that was just totally

Like three feet of water. Yeah, it was gone. So there was one control room the whole, you know what I mean? Rather than like the two or three that they usually have. Because they do more than one of me. Yeah, so we had to do this whole split up thing. It was hell, but also kind of worked out for us. Because I mean, Dave is the type that he could have lasted the whole month.

But like for me and Lou, I think we would have went crazy. Yeah. We just need to be like stimulated all the time. And like, I was like in that day like, I mean, we did guitarist for like what? like a week straight or something and I was about to lose my mind. Like I needed to like leave that studio and like do something else. It's dark in there. There's like not a lot of natural light in there.

Oh yeah. Almost none, dude. Andy did our first ride. He's of legend too. Andy. He was in weekend nachos. Yeah, weekend nachos. Yeah, weekend nachos goes hard.

You probably would fuck a weekend nachos if you ever heard of one before. No. Yeah, listen to weekend nachos, man. Very sad. You cannot, yeah. Wait, so this is a band or a crew? No, yeah, it's a band. It's a band.

It's a ban. Weekend nachos. They have like, they're like, usually like power violence, power grindy, but like, okay. But, but they have a song, the BleedyP, you would fuck your Bleepy P. Yeah, Bleepy is crazy. Yeah, it's two tracks, 50 minutes long. Dude, that was one of the heaviest records I've ever bought. And I just got it because I was like, oh, I love weekend nonchos.

Yeah, dude. I put it on and I was like, what, dude? I'm about to listen to that today. Yeah, we need to. That shit is nuts. Is it weekend? Like the weekend? or is it weekend like you're weak?

No weekend. You're having a good time on the weekend. Okay. Weeking nachos. Eat some nachos. People used to hate on that name. Yeah, I hated it. Yeah.

They put out a seven inch like in the shape of a nacho back in the day. No. I used to always try to find it on like discogs and chip, but I can never get my hands on it. Oh. Yeah. Yes. And this is not what they normally sound like. That's why it's so sick.

It's just two songs of this. But this song, it's six minutes of just this. That's it. That's a sick riff. That's all you need, though. That's a sick riff. It's hard as shit. When the vocals finally kick in?

Yeah, he has crazy vocals. It makes me feel like a little top of the leg. Yeah. I feel strong. Straight up. Oh, my God. Dude, that's why I like this music. Whatever it makes me feel like,

oh. It gives me this like animalistic feeling. Yeah. When the song is finally like. And then towards the end, they start going. then and so it's like this single note

at the end it's like they just chug it out dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun you just want to like I wonder they must have played this live right I don't know I can ask Andy I'm sure there's a video I'm trying to think if I ever seen it play it right

so where is this band from Chicago? Chicago okay yeah but they broke up Owago it's I mean Parm's Way members were in it and then the singer now does

spine. Spine, is sick too. Yeah. Is he in Spine now? Yeah. The singer is the drummer

for a spine. Spine's crazy. Oh, the drummer. That's a strange. That's like old school, hardcore. But just a lot of blast beats, too, though. A lot of blast beats?

Yeah. I like blasting. Fuck, yeah. I love that. I love blast beats. Okay, so you guys do, you guys recorded the new record. Whose idea was it

to have, like, the separate tracking where it's like, we're gonna do like the classic month or week on, we got, record the music and then we're gonna send Aaron off on this is kind of how it goes all the time normally Randy wanted to do the vocals throughout

because so his vocals wouldn't get fucked up we just had to do it that way but we did the first time we tracked the drums last yeah we pre-proed with program drums yeah and then Lou went back and like didn't his thing yeah because because the thing is he's so good at digital like to program it that we pretty much like rewrote not rewrote but like we we tracked the record we'd like spent a week going through riff by riff every single one and then he programmed it and the same time

to save time it sounded real or shit which is nuts yeah and then we recorded because the whole thing is and that's why also vocals we wanted to sprinkle one because to randy and this is so true it's like during drums last think about like okay you you know do the drums first then you're like but wait that fit like a vocal could be really cool in that part but there's a little bit like a vocal could be really cool in that part but Phil there. You can't take it out. No. You're not going to re-record it. Take up too much time. And doing it that way I was like, that is so true.

But you need someone who's good at like programming drums with him. Yeah, it'd be hard as shit. Yeah, and you'd be fucking sick at that. Yeah, he was doing it. Yeah, he was like, can you change his fill? He was like, yeah. I was watching it at the one time and also. Here's my eye.

It's like changing the velocities. And it's like, it's like, wait, there's a swing on this. Oh my goodness. He's really good. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, knots. How did you like that experience, Aaron? What, going up there? Yeah, going up dinner. To be honest,

I had, well, the experience itself was beautiful. It's, like, out there in the middle of fucking nowhere, like North Pennsylvania, New Jersey area up there. And it was deer out there every morning and shit. It was, like, chilling. I really needed that, you know? A lot going on.

Yeah. But getting back into the studio after so long was, like, insanely anxiety-inducing. Like, I, I almost never get anxiety when it comes to the vocals and what we do is a band. But for some reason, coming back, I was definitely like a little weirded out by it. So, I mean, it took me a little bit of time to just relax and get the flow of things going. And once that happened, it was off to the races, you know.

And I tried a new technique. I was recording sitting down. That was fucking weird. Was that anything? No, Dylan from Full of Hell told me. me to do that shit. I mean, if there's anyone to trust about vocals. Exactly.

Bro, that dude. I was sitting down, players. Yeah. So I did that and it allowed me to relax so much and get the sounds that I was looking for and the sounds that I felt like the song really called for. Because, you know, I'd like to keep things like a low range to mid-range, but I've had the range to do more and I just, for some reason,

never did it with this band. So a lot of the parts I heard, I was like, I guess now's the time. No time, dude. Isn't there a story about, like, you read, like, a comment or something? Oh, yeah, he's got no range. Some bitch-ass reporter. He wrote us his beautiful review.

I was like, yeah. And he's like, well, I mean, the singer doesn't really have any range, though. I was like... Oh, I just added a fucking... Who the fuck? I'm not going to lie. You export range on the record, but live, though, I like what you're... I'd be fucking around.

Dude, at the end of Conjury life, you're like, yeah. We always fuck around and switch up. songs when we play live. So sometimes like a normal ass like punk or like hardcore sounding song and just is very death metal out of nowhere. Or vice versa. Yeah. Like a groove part.

We turn into like a faster part. I got to get that guttural mic though. Yo. We've been trying to put Dave on third mic so you can do gutt rolls over there all the slams. Dude. Come on. That's what I said. I'm in.

This sounds like a great idea. Get a quick break in there. Can you imagine like the stage plot like guttero mic? Dude, the gutterle mic. Dude, I did you. We were talking, we need the, we need the headset mics. Oh, he's, because he does backups or whatever. And like, it's sometimes, like, people will be diving, it'll be getting crazy or whatever.

And, like, we just started doing, like, wireless guitar stuff, like, wireless, you know, guitar. So, like, just, like, move around and just do, like, headset mics while, like, Aaron is singing and we're just, like, doing our parts. Can we get him on, please? Or just, like, or funny mosh calls while we're just walking around. That would be mad funny. Honestly, like, you guys can't even have mic stams because, I mean, looking for, from your stage shows, they always get knocked over. Oh, yeah. Dude, especially this one's been the worst of that.

It's been a problem, yeah. They're for show most of the time, I feel like. What year is this? 2017, maybe. What venue is this? This is the electric factory in Philadelphia. Frankl's music hall. Also, they change the name.

Yeah. Yeah. Your shows are fucking nuts, dude. Short hair, bro. Damn. Dumb, no beer? No beer. Whoa.

Damn, sass, you look different. Tide! Was there a year or Xavier filled in for you guys? Not this is our core. No, that was the- Peter. Yo, shout out Peter Rono real quick. That's my fucking man.

He sings Red Band Calnashi. That's my fucking dog. He was not on time for anything, go. No one ever. No one is on time. I can't even like. Every time I go, I'll let you do it. Just be on time.

I was like, I got it. That's not true. Dude, Kayla in Atlanta. Wow. Shout out to Kayla, though. Look at Dom.

Oh, this is chaos. There's so many people in this video that, like, we could, like, go on about their bands and, like,

who they are forever, and they're all sick. Dom Pabone, Similacra, you would fuck with Simi Lacka? Hard, death metal, hardcore.

I like, honestly, Daze records. Yeah, Dave. Everything on D-A-Z-E. Hey, Louis, get down What was the

The band of you I just said? Simulaka S-I-M-U-L-A-K-R-A Okay Yeah, those are the With a K Okay, you guys Yeah, you guys need

Like the Britney Spears' headsets For sure I will actually Be super down to get him One of those headsets He has a talk about You guys did that? He's one of the funniest people

I've ever met my fucking life Straight up Sayas This person that hasn't said anything This is crazy Yeah, no, the singer of this band You're talking about old school Like internal bleed

All these guys like love internal bleeding Like, oh man Not condemned What's the Dehumanized? Like New York death metal Like that's their shit And Dom's a scary-ass mosh

Dom is like Mosh prodigy So Lewis style Aaron is style and like and and hardness. Dom, he, he,

I watched this man dislocate his elbow, his shoulder, go back in the pit and mosh with one arm. Oh my goodness. He's also the only person who's ever filled in

for us on vocals. Yes. Oh yeah. In Texas. Yeah. He used to do like merch first and shit. Yeah.

But Xavier's in gridiron that's another like band from Pia that's going crazy. You would fuck a gridiron. Oh my goodness. I have old paper now. Yeah. Listen, bro.

give you all I will first of all I'll give you a there but also I just want to shout out every like dope band you sure this is where to fucking do it man I filled in for Simulacro for two shows and they were the hardest songs I ever had to learn on yeah it's it's dude yeah I mean you can talk about it but like

because I filled in for another band that we're both kind of in that Xavier is in and the riffs he writes are literally like I don't know how to explain like the second you're up on the first fret you're already on the 11th fret on the next the next yeah and nothing repeats yeah oh my goodness

it was a lot of brain power but it'll be like that and it'll just be like done done done like hard you know so yeah it's great though but that's the kind of shit these kids from Delaware

and Pennsylvania is ever pumping out right now like it's just insane there's like there's a whole like I said that record label there's also from within like there's a whole there is this like scene

of like underground bands that like I feel like people fuck with but like there's like I don't know people like well I need more

extreme music and heavy music whatever and it's like there's like this like amalgamation of just like hard music that people like if you know you know if you don't you don't but like i want people to know yeah it's like it's good shit still underground like you know people need to look for it and dom low key has some of the best vocals i've heard recently really yeah there's like again a touch of aggression that's needed in your voice it can't all be technique for me yeah he's got that shit for yeah i mean he's he's all raw fuck yeah Yeah. And like, I mean, you know, he could tell his story, but like his lyrics too and the things he's like gone through and stuff. It's like real like he just real shit. It's sick. But like. Brezzo, one of the best drummers I know. Another one. Straight up. He's he's an example of a really great mechanical drummer. You know what I'm saying? Like Lewis kind of has that looseness, that style. Yeah. Breza is like. Machine too. Like so. I don't know. In the pocket. Yeah. You know what this? This explains a lot about your band because you're just surrounded. by like the sickest

heaviest shit and you guys you guys are pretty much forced to be sick you know it does a lot dude if you're surrounded by great bands which we were I mean back in a day

and like it just makes you something there's something about it it just makes you better you know and sounds corin it's same but I guess iron sharpens iron you know what I mean

it's true yeah I want to be I want to be dope with everyone else yeah you know dude totally Keith's one of the dopest moshers ever Oh, we almost ate shit There's kicks

There's people being punched And there's hugs Yeah Eric Wolf Yeah shout out walk one time Old school Eric And what's also fucking sick about you guys

Is like you're I mean You're obviously heavy as fuck People throw around Like the word beat down too much But you guys have your own sound I don't know what it is We are on record rejecting that name That later

Everyone claims that we're a beat down there. That war's been around since like I was like a kid. You say beat down, I think bulldoze. You know what I mean? That's the world of beat down and that sound, you know. You can have some slam parts, that's what's-clam. It's more slam. Yeah, like I would look, that's where we-

I mean, quite literally me and Lewis met up at a practice way said, let's write a song that sounds like baby killer. Oh wow. You know. That explains a lot. Like that was like what we wanted. wanted to do we just ended up we are also like hardcore punk so that's what happened but I'm saying like that's what I mean that's where all the syncopated did that done to with like the

ride bell stuff and the you know standard tuning yeah yeah vendors gipsons fender Gibson yeah yeah we always go back I see it I fucking hear it you can't fuck with fender Gibson still dude still if you have something to drink over there playing like some sort of flavored beverage Oh. Are you talking beer? Also, if, if, can we, can we, can we, can we get some, can we get some hynicans? And it may be a liquid death, non-gas. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm good. I'm definitely gonna have some hyniquin. Also for, for bands to, I want to shout out just because like, dude, this man right here, Ced of Pain. Cedar pain. Cedar pain. Magnitude.

What are we got? Carbonite. Moment of truth. You would fuck a moment of truth. Yeah. How? You're talking about heavy shit? Dude, he's feeling for two bands on this tour.

You know this, right? Yeah. He's playing guitar and scow, and he's playing bass for us. Are you serious? Back to fucking back for 38 shows. I'm trying to get paid. How in your neck, dude? You're all right, man? He's rolling with a corpse grinder by it.

It's catching up to me, for sure, physically. But both bands are fun. Thanks, X. It's two different styles, so I get to, like, play some breakdowns with Jesus piece, but also play some fast punk stuff with Scowl. I got some just like, dude, badass. Yeah, it's fun.

And like, I'm a guitar player first, so that one, like, is a little, it's like a different fun for me. Aaron, what are you doing over there, dude? I'm dropping shit. Oh, thank you. You're welcome, Chan. Loki, I don't know how to use the lighter trick. For real? Thank you.

I'll teach you right now on the podcast. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I mean, I think I always saw you on bass or whatever. I assumed you were a bassist, but he came over to my house one time just that we were just, like, going to, you know, mess around. And he, uh, he started playing acoustic guitar. I was like, well, Whoa. Yeah, I was playing,

I remember the song, too. I was trying to impress you in that moment. I learned how to play fireflies on guitar with, like, the K-po. Fireflies by Owl City. It's just like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Yeah, but either way, it's like, finger-picking. I was like, wait, hold up, you could, that's your vibe?

Yeah, it's an electronic song. I just want, I just want D that like me right now. You know, I'm going to fucking blow it to me. Yeah, you did. He did. He did. I mean, I have one shot to impress him.

He also learned the whole set like a week before. Yeah. But, but, but, I mean, Cidap is my favorite, for sure.

Yeah. Like, Moment of Truth is like the heavy. I mean, we, if you want to go on YouTube and type in, I mean, Moment of Truth is,

this is what Moment Truth is doing, but, um, uh, Japanese Mosh style too. Oh, yeah. I mean, hell yeah,

that's, yeah, that's, yeah, that's the heavy stuff, but MoMAs is the heavy stuff. But Cepo, it's like,

ringworm integrity stuff and that's my that's my shit like that's my favorite kind of hardcore but uh this is the man where's integrity from cleveland clevo clevo hardcore straight up that's like i don't know do that whole list of man like that's my shit all good shit there's so many sick bands out there yeah there's too many sick vans a lot that don't show up on those like spotify metal band of the week playlists you know like there's a lot of you just got to do a lot of a lot of research and just click people to like go to the labels yeah yeah dude that's dude you know and so so lou um he's really in electronic music and then like all this stuff and and i mean we all are but you know what i mean like in that world of of electronic music the way i find stuff and like

he finds stuff is like you go through labels you go through like you look at a lot of labels and you kind of see what that was and i feel like that was an old school thing to do back you know earache back in the day and like whatever and i feel like that's and that's why i mentioned like look up day's Because I feel like from within records And before that plead your case records Which is our friend Lennon's old label and stuff And it's like you can just find Like that's such a good way to find like

Because now Because I feel like for a while there was like this like Wasteland of like you know These bigger labels who would just like kind of like Pick guys up and it worked a work to work it didn't Whereas like these days from within pleader case There was some other ones but Hey Jay

Scheme records Yeah Jay pull up Scheme Oh scheme scheme Yeah Hey Jay pull up scheme records Please but uh

it's actually the record the guy who runs scheme records is his birthday today Kyle Nile so shout out oh shit I wrote that happy birthday but you know what I mean like you like you go to this and you kind of see seven inches

and all this kind of stuff I don't know scheme as much as like all my they're like newer but yeah but like day's records it's run by this dude lumpy and he was in King 9 and sanction if you fuck with them if you have it was a sanctioned dude that shit scheme

we got wreckage yeah wreckage just put out a LP they're from Connecticut they're Yeah, echo chamber. Echo chamber from Germany. Germany. So yeah, and like with this dude, like, this is more like kind of like straightforward, kind of like nine, what do you say like 90s, 80 style kind of hardcore.

Daze has a little more of like a metal core metal thing and then from within our friend SIG he like does like kind of everything in between. But that's what I'm saying like all these labels like kind of look through that. You know what I mean? I think that's a like we're getting home and that weekend in Philadelphia there's a, from within showcase at this church or whatever. So it's just like, yeah. Yeah, I'm playing in five of those bands.

Yeah, he's playing five sets that weekend. Yeah, like after the, you get back from the tour and I go immediately back to Philly, no practice, just play the five sets. Holy moly, yeah. I just like to rock, I don't know. You are a talented young man. Yeah, sanction. Mark's sanction down, bro. If you never listen to that band.

That shit is crazy. That's 08 right there, 08 deathcore. Absolutely. In a good way. Yeah. The infringement of. God's plan. That's the fucking banger right there.

That shit is crazy. You know what? I've heard the band name around actually. Mosh's Delight straight up. Before the pandemic, they were hitting it real hard. Yeah. That's like tear your rotator's cuff. Yeah, 600.

And that's not pure noise, but 600 881, which is like, 631, that's like their area code and stuff. But the guitar player, he runs days. Oh. Yeah. So it's like all, I mean, you know. He's also filled in for like an insane amount of bands. He was, I mean, he was the original member of King 9 and so like that.

He's like, a Marauder. Yeah, he's played for a marauder for a little bit. It's funny because I was going to ask you guys, you know, because I honestly don't know. It's like, you know, how do you guys, you know, listen to music these days? How do you find new bands and shirt? And you basically just go to the label. Just talk to our friends, go to shows, most importantly.

Yeah. Go see some new bands. That's one of the very few things good about social media is, you know, your friends talking about music or, whatever honestly but yeah Spotify band camp sounds like I don't know podcast podcast yeah that's good well me yeah I mean you guys dropped a lot of gems on this one so I think people watching listening will definitely appreciate it listen the eternal champion in Sumerlands too Arthur is like traditional heavy metal it's really good like

it's sick Sumerlands has like Ozzy Osbourne vibe like the first couple records oh wow and they're great incredible musicians Philly based Kind of. Yeah, kind of. Texas. Texas Philly. Wasn't Eternal Champions of Texas, Philly? Yeah, that one.

Eternal Champions. That's Iron Age heads, right? Yeah, but Sumerlind's an Eternal Champion both share the same two guitars and bass player. Oh, wait, doesn't the singer of rival mob sings for Summerlands now? Yeah. Yeah. He has a beautiful voice. Incredible.

I did not know that. Yeah, he had a black metal band called Ball, no, Battle Ruins was that? I think D. F.J was in, I don't know. Either way. But, no, he's... This is lore right here. Yeah, we're going deep. Brendan from

Sumerland sang in Magic Circle and... Magic Circle. But there was another like two-song band that he did. Either way, this is music. But then he sang in Rava Mop,

one of the greatest hardcore bands ever. Literally. Literally ever. Rival Mop is incredible. Yeah. Oh man. We need them back. Bring them back.

Well, since you guys have have your own sound, I was curious because obviously, you know, you're, you know, East Coastline, they're definitely jamming

like skinless and hardcore bands and the barman and barcores I get it but I was like you know I was curious when the band started and you're you're working on like you know And anywhere from your from your three song demo to only self like what what what what you guys listening to That was non? Uh

Hardcore or metal like we we listen to Elvis or like this will destroy you Yeah, yeah? Yeah, I mean talking about only self from the between that the three song because I mean Literally the end of our record like there's like we kind of have like this like real like do me part or whatever that was kind of inspired by the band that japanese boris boris but i'm saying the drum well the drum be that's oh right right boris yeah this will destroy you non i don't dude that was so long ago i know i know so long ago bro what was i that that i don't even know we were just like betty gaga i almost something yeah what's i'll say 2018 or in between like like in between like 2015 to 2018 like brit rock brit rock

Britt Rock, okay Yeah, that's why I first started listening Swirb Driver and all that It's around that time Swar Driver Yeah That sounds interesting Swirdriver

Swir driver Swir driver yeah Swirv Like a chuggays Band from the 90s I got to see a picture of this fucking band Yeah Shoeges

They got a Lice King Cat Singing Pets Fucking ripping it They're really good Really melodic They're good They're supposed to see

One word Idea You fuck up Yeah they're They're rippers man Not screwdriver. That was what... Definitely, please don't go that.

Not to be confused with screwdriver. A screwdriver one word. Yeah, I just cut that. I wore a swerf driver shirt. You got to hit me with the bleep pulled out. Oh my goodness. Well, dude, that's a great question because I don't know. Non-metal stuff, yeah, I don't know.

Really? I always listen to like Neo-Soul. So that's probably what I was listening to like Sada or some shit. Yeah, I mean there's the stuff we kind of like, I mean, Apex Twin is like you know the deaf tones Like you know shit like that but like things for I guess like it's right here's the record yeah I can't say if you're watching this you're still beautiful I think she's like 60 so wow

Yeah dude that was feels like a little bit lifetime yeah because I mean I was just curious because I mean guys have your own sounds I'm always curious like you know you always bands that really stick out in general You know similar I guess to you guys and us and you know just generally like it's always like you combined the obvious with like the non-obvious you know so i'm always curious about bands that have their own sound that are heavy which is very very rare that kind of stick out uh amongst the a pack you know of great bands i mean it goes back to i was saying before i don't like same way with only self i mean and for this record like when we were writing it it was very much like uh there wasn't like oh this let's do a song like this or like we want to

sound like that it's like we just had a riff and we just kind of of did stuff with it. Interesting. I have a, like, I always, it's very poetic, I guess, whatever. But, like, when I think about writing a riff or a song, I hate being, like, this riff is cool. Or, like, this, like, I have a riff.

It's like, for me, I, like, I want to be, like, I want to be, like, I think about, like, I think about, like, sounds so dumb stuff. Like, I think about, like, the sky. Like, what does the sky sound like? What does this painting sound like? What does this mean? You get that. And, because that, that feels so much better to me

than, like, being, like, like, I, there's definitely some ripped riffs on our records. Don't get me wrong. Like, I, you know, there's all, obviously. 100% like, I listened to Cryptops, and I was like, we're taking that riff. But, but, you know, it's like,

of course. Yeah, you know what I mean? But overall, the whole thing, and that's another thing, too, is, like, the songwriting. It's never, like, David Updike wrote this thing, or John wrote this thing. It's like, every riff, each of us, you can tell, I mean, you know, going through it, you know, you can tell, you can tell who wrote what riff, riff, but no riff was not touched by each other. Yeah.

So when writing it, it's like less about, and that's why, you know, even with like the whole like regional stuff, like, I don't know, there's something like, you know, the Philly sound or the Philly Feeling and stuff or like the East Coast thing. Everything to me is so like, you know, like, no, I just want, I want to feel like it's like such like a different thing than like, you know, a specific thing. I mean, we just, we wrote what was cool to us. And we were definitely searching for our sound. We weren't really sure what we sounded like.

And we specifically didn't want a specific thing. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That's why when it's like, oh, you guys are a beat down and I'm like, stop. Yeah. Stop. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Not even close. Yeah. Or like, you know, or people when we first started, it's like, you guys sound like history. It's like, stop. Oh my. Someone said that? Yeah.

Many, many, many people. And no disembodied. Disabody. We don't sound like that. They're heavy, yes. Oh, they're credible. We don't sound like. People hear a chug and they think, oh, all right.

Yeah. And like, same thing. I mean, we specifically didn't want to do panic chords because, you know, it's like the, you know, like the trit tone, you know. Yeah. And we didn't like, we kind of were like, let's, if we're going to do it, let's make sure we do it in a very different way. Because we want to have our own vibe. And also it's way more interesting to like paint that type of picture than it is to like, you like, we're this type of band.

That makes me feel better. And sometimes I get in my head, like when we listen to our new record, you know, I mean it's like damn like is this then I like I'll read this I'll read this I'll be like all right we did a good job like I did I don't even know what to compare it to that's great yeah you know we were showing our homie yeah yeah we were showing our we were showing jana at fear of failure yesterday oh yeah and it's just like it's funny because it's like people can think whatever but like I listen this song truly I listen to and I'm like I don't know like what like live you what are you what would it be I don't know that's true

yeah but there's also like a groove part in the first first like yeah and there's At the end is like a little black metal like double time on the high hat like with a then a slam beat down at the end You know what I mean? Yeah parts there's VOT like we like literally arch go blasphemy hoodie yeah into like a unit 731 You know what I'm saying like it yeah this is an ad band if you have it yeah we're listening to that on the way there's another ban unit 731 what unit 731 unit 731 unit 731 7 3 That's a cool band name. Yeah. But yeah, that's the long answer to that.

You know what I mean? Because I think it's more interesting to want to like paint a picture than it has to like want to be like that riff is dope. But there's also a spy. I mean, I definitely listen to bands like that riff is dope. Oh, yeah. But for, for I think us, I like the idea of it being, I've been a little more.

Yeah. You know, all around. Yeah, it's awesome. That explains a lot with your style and why it's so unique because, I mean, like you, you take inspiration from the world life you know and then uh Lou puts his fucking swagger to it

is he's a very specific unique drummer which is fucking sick and then by the time you know it gets to Aaron it's just it's just put a little spice it's over just put a little paprika on that shit Jesus peace Jesus peace

Jesus peace Oh my goodness Oh dude He also he is like Dude he He's like, the other day, he's like, I want to do something else now so people stop bringing this up. Because it's cool, but he's like so, like, everyone's like, so you drum with her Charlie XX? And he's like, yes.

It's fucking sick, though. I didn't know who she was until, uh, to Lou. Yeah. And there's that. She's awesome. He put her on. Yeah. But, yeah.

You're welcome, Charlie. For those of you listening. We're watching Lou play drums for Charlie. As I'm very talented drummer Lewis. On Saturday Night and Alive. Yes, I know. And you know what? This is what, I really want to talk about Sunny. You know, hate 5, 6.

Which is basically how, I mean, Lou got this gig. How bad, son. So, no, so no. Definitely, like, that's another thing, too. We wanted it. We definitely, like, he, Lewis has his own. sphere of people and and stuff and like there's like it's a very honestly simple story of like his friend is a creative director and he hit him up he just he just happened to be a eight five six bit exactly

because i mean he's not he's actually gonna be that tonight but we have like 30 eight five six don't give me wrong sunny's great but he and it's like definitely like like exposure i hate that word but like you know i mean he films us playing but like with lou and stuff like that like really like reason Lou is where he's at and what he's done is like he's just a sick drummer and he's got film doing it you know what I'm saying sick I just want to say that when I when I found you guys I started seeing are you in that video yeah yeah okay that was that literally the home that's literally literally this is Seas up there rocked really literally this is main band okay on main band oh oh it's hard to juggle no they're they're a straightage man

their shows go crazy. Also, Conner's a great drummer. Connor rocks. To have someone that's always capturing these moments in time for, especially for heavy music and hardcore, is so huge. It's great. Actually, speaking of labels, too, FYA Fest,

you want to talk about, like, a curated lineup to, to me, isn't just the same bands. FYA Fest, which is what this is, has amazing lineups. To me.

If you need a few bands, look out the year by year. lineup of FYA you can just find it's just there it's right there it's like they just done your homework for you basically fuck your attitude fast you want to be cool just look at those lineups and check legit yeah buy those shirts yeah i think i think it's super important for for any scene that do uh to capture moments you know especially for hardcore i mean and any and like like the east coast heavy scene it's just it's it's all there yeah dude sunny uh sonny uh Johnny has been filming for a long-ass time and just doing that just because he liked to do it and it's growing into something so big and awesome.

That's not. We've taken that full to Japan with us. Really? They look like that's bad-hand line-ups. We filmed a bunch of shit out there and then Australia he rode with us for a little bit too. How is Japan? Banging. Japan's awesome.

I was fucked out, dude. In a good way, it was fucked up. I'm not vegan anymore, so I'm excited to try some sushi next. Dude, shout out to Kobe. Boyle of from Loyal to the Great. Yeah, Blood Axe. He brings us over there. He does Blood Axe Festival.

Dude, that year was... That was this year. Oh, that was this year? No, wait, no. No, I thought I was Cold War would play... Fucking Life of Agony played. Cold War was... I saw Cold War was...

I saw Cold War at F.Y. Like, Matt long ago. I thought that was... Yeah. At the High Lie Court? I wasn't there, but... The High Lie Court. This was this past year. I mean, last year.

Golch? I mean, this California. They broke up, but that's another big one. Never in a game. God, there's so many bands. Mind force Yeah the whole The whole headliner right there

All the headliners are great Yeah I found out about gold From a tsunami Yeah Colches is shit Dead heat Rest in peace

It's genius It's fucking right It's sick fucking You have a sick Manous break up It's sick I forgot about that Yeah

I think we played Yeah this is our Yeah Because we played Before disembodied Last time we played Yeah The disc go badly

After three years No it was great That was the one Where John Tried to break the guitar But Oh It didn't break

Oh no No it broke Whoa For the records There was video evidence It broke I broke that shit It took a minute

It took a minute And we damaged the stage The stage was soft It was safe It went on so long That everyone was kind of like It was a guitar Like didn't we

Aaron got it You wanted Yeah one of our friends Like ripped the jackpot He was like I'm about to rip the jackpot I was like Shut the fuck up

No you're not And he literally stood there And was like And Deadass got a fucking jackpot And was like Give me that guitar And just gave it to me

I was like, well, we're going to break So it's like a squire. Like, yeah, we're breaking it. We thought it sucked. It wasn't even like, this is going to be a bum-ass guitar. Let's fucking break this thing. Wrong. That shit is built for tough.

Dude, he was smashing this fucking thing. Yeah, I was about to hand it off the air. And he's the strongest one in the band. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, Aaron's got straight.

I got to hand that shit off to him. Yeah, I would have to step in. Put the hurting all those. What do you think is that actually, I like, pretended to play it for like the last song. Yeah. I can't just grab another guitar and start smashing that. Yeah.

Yeah, I forgot about that It wouldn't work, right? It was just shitty It was like To the E probably Like we thought it was gonna break Straight up Oh yeah, I thought it was gonna break first hit

It did, but it was a square? No, it was like, oh was it square? It was a Fender? It wasn't even, it wasn't an offender It was like a different guitar company But I'm telling you this shit was Bill, nigga He was smashing this thing

Like I was feeling the stage Under my feet every time he hit And I was starting to cringe like Oh, this is my dope bad dude this can't happen yeah it took what like five tries or more bro he was hitting that thing for a while it was it was long it was long it was long yeah there is a video it is long enough where we were like is this gonna break same like it was literally I was like if it doesn't break on this hit it one more time and then like the neck just snapped it was like thank god dude

oh my goodness god or I mean I would just throw it out in a crowd yeah right yeah yeah Here's a, this is obviously I'm so nervous about that like throwing shit on, like even like water I'm like I don't, because it's like everyone's like like you throw a guitar out and someone got hit they'd be like Yeah exactly. Lawsuit.

Dude remember we were like before that show we were like No, are you sure you don't want to do it? Like what if it doesn't break? Like not Dave do it. You just do it. I was like, you were like not John do it. John, yeah, you because if it didn't at least like your strength would have pushed it to the end.

Right. Should it hit it on the flat side. You should have done. Yeah, because the same is so low. neck break right there. But no, that's good I was like, sorry Bob, sorry the stage is like fucked up. Could cut trees with that bad boy.

Yeah, you gotta be careful with the fucking lawsuits. Dude, yeah, I mean, I've thrown out a lot of guitars in the crowd. Have you really? Yeah, a lot. Dude, that's what, that would stretch me out, stress me out so much. You're like, got him back or you're just like, no, see ya.

I had one situation when someone was fucking with me. They're like, yeah, yeah, better call your lawyer. in the face he was like fucking with me. Dead serious. Oh shit. Yeah. He was obviously

really bored at home. That's crazy. My goodness. I'm glad that we haven't had any lawsuits against us yet, to be honest. No. Anytime someone's gotten like fucked up during our set, I feel like.

They're like, hell yeah. Like we've had like their parents and we'd be like, can you sign this thing for my son? Or like, some dude was like crowd killing. Like the, literally this is what? San Antonio and you like, you tackle them off stage

because they were being dickhead. And they were like, hell yeah, man. Oh yeah. Some guy got on stage. Some big dude, I don't know why I thought I could take him, but he was punching people in the face while on stage, and I'm like, no.

And I tried kicking him off, and my foot was just not strong enough. So I was like, I'm just going to throw my body at him, and then I knocked him off the stage. He literally tackled him. We both fell off the stage together. Sick. He thought that I was like stage diving for fun.

I was like, no, I was trying to kick you off. Yeah, I got you, bro. I got you. Oh, my goodness. Unless it's Austin, Texas. got to be careful there yeah yeah yeah people are diving like crazy at the shows they don't give a fuck it's awesome yep people are really diving hard well you guys are uh halfway through the tour oh my gosh this this is a long one not even yeah dude yeah not even halfway

holy shit anything longer than fucking three weeks that starts to lose my mind so i go imagine how you guys i'm trying to do like a week on chill do another week I mean we we definitely taught, before we got, when we asked, you got to ask about this, we definitely, like, talked about that. Hey, what did you eat in sour patch kids right now? Let's do it. Yeah, I'm sorry if that's rude. I just...

Can I have one? Yeah. If you can smoke your weed in here, I can have some candy. Taxman, come. That is a good point. But we talked about it. This is like our first tour in five years, like the line up so good. We were like, all right.

We got to, you got to stake it out. And also, we were like, this... We kind of, dude, before the tour, we were like, if this is the, if this is what does it to us, it'll be this tour. So we were like, we went into it kind of like, I think we were obviously psyched, but we were like, can I have some?

Yeah, of course. Yeah, like, I love our next five minutes of the show. Yeah, a lot of bands per tour is back for like you get that lineup or like the routing in like two months. Dude, we, I literally, eight weeks or seven weeks. What's the long as you done at all? I tried to not think about it at all. I tried to not think about it.

Yeah, same. It's like, what's the long as you done? I mean, yeah, when we have, first started, there was over two months, close to three, and then once that the pandemic was over, and you start touring, like, you gotta make up a lot of time. We did tour of Ginger. It was almost two months long. Wow. Did you ever do Warp Tour anything?

Yeah. I know that's just like three months, right? Yeah, it was like two. It's like two. That's not a bus, though, so that's nice. Yeah, but, uh... True. Yeah, but we got, like, 2010 Warped Tour.

I hear, like, the years prior, or were, like, the crazy long ones. Yeah. Because bands will hop on and hop off. True. But you have a few bands. We did that full, but that was just, I mean, it was a shorter run. Oh, damn. Yeah, when you guys announced this tour, I looked at the dates, I'm like, damn, only six weeks.

And then months later, they asked me to fill in. I'm like, damn. Oldly put that out there. Yeah, I was, like, thinking to myself, I'm glad I'm not doing six weeks of that. But now I am glad to be doing six weeks of this. Yeah, and we asked you what, a week before? Yeah, two weeks for sure You're a super hero for doing that, thank you

You know I was like, hey, can you tour for six weeks? He goes, yeah I was like, word Yeah, I wasn't making money Working at Starbucks, I'm like Not that this is paying me anything crazy But like, I was like

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa No, I'm just saying like, I was like Damn, dude, dude, what are you doing? Why do you think I'm filling it for two bands? Yeah, you need to clout Yeah, they pay me in clout It's all for the clout That's it

They asked me like two weeks before And I was like I'm gonna do it because I want to go on the road I'm bored in Philly And then a week before the tour Scow also asked me to fill in And I'm like well I'm already gonna be on the tour I don't see why I couldn't do both

You hit me up and I was like if you can do it I mean that's a lot of dude Learning of two band sets and a week and a half That's insane And he had to learn lyrics and singing for this for their backs that was probably the hardest part

not even the riffs just learning onwards and the five sets you have to play when you get back yeah and your other touring bands it's gonna be a great year

for me a great busy year you love you love you're too bored bro well dude like the year after the pandemic all my bands didn't do anything

for the whole year and I was watching all my other friends bands tour everywhere I'm like damn I want to be doing that why I have a bunch of bands why are we not touring

and then 2022 happened and then that's when I started touring way more, and then this year we're already hit the ground running with you guys. And then I got other announcements later this year. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

It's not about my band, it's about Jesus' peace right now. But you're going to be, I mean, you're coming with us? You coming with us? I mean, if I'm, let me see. I guess I could, yeah. Yeah, I would love to continue playing with you guys, so. Thanks.

Yeah. Well, you're here first. I guess we'll talk about it. We'll see. Yeah, you guys don't talk about things You just go Yeah, basically, yeah It's always kind of been that way

If you think too much, you won't do it That is very true, too, yeah That is true, I always like To tell that people, tell that to people that Frank go to gym When we start thinking, you're fucked Yeah, that's exactly it If you started thinking you heart

You're talking about that That or if you lay down after work That's the killer Dude, I love I love napping But the thing is I get home from work And I'm like, yeah, I'll go to the gym night. I'll lay down and check my phone for a minute.

Never works. I'm surprised you guys left after that show in Austin to go back to the DJ thing because you guys were both just laying in bed. I mean, the guilt would have over. Lewis has been playing a few shows after. Like, he'd be DJs after and we both lay down. But my guilt would have been too high. The FOMO.

The FOMO and the guilt. Lewis after being like, wow, good scene you there. had fun. That was fun. That was actually a really fun night. And show me the body showed up. And it was a good time. So I don't know.

Because we're talking, Lou, I mean, Lou DJs, he has any producers under name Lou 2K. So that's another, like, shout out. But I mean, that's him. I mean, he's like, he's a real deal. Like, DJ and producer. He's incredible DJ.

Yeah. Great. I mean, his girlfriend, too, is an amazing DJ. Sick. Love it. That's great. Well, I don't want to take up too much.

of your time. I'm glad that you found your van and you're able to make the journey here. Yeah, it knows too. Yeah, right? I was worried we were talking to Sherwin or whatever and I was like, dude, I don't know if we're going to be able to do it because we couldn't, I mean, thank God we found a shop. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know,

the lock is one thing, but I mean, we literally The whole van. Well, like the like the ignition was gone. It was knocked off, yeah. It was gone. Dude, to get that changed out. Yeah. So we had to get a towed and you had to put the skates on our van and everything. Oh, really? Yeah. They hammered it off. So they put the screwdriver in there and turn it.

And that's the third van-related thing we had to deal with. Windows. One of the windows just exploded while we were driving. Oh, yeah. Like, we're just driving, and John's like, I don't know. This window would look loose. Yeah, he was like, yeah, when we, the next stop we do, we should just kind of look at the window.

I think one of the screws is loose. And we all agreed like, yeah, yeah, okay. Legit. And five, ten seconds later. Like the passenger window, like the driver. On, like, the flip open doors. Yeah. It went,

yeah. Blew up, yeah. Just like 10 seconds later. In Florida, I thought we were getting shot at. It was in Miami, yeah. And then the next thing was, we left the keys in the car. Yeah, I loved.

I did. Shout out K-Bob Steakhouse. Shade up. Yeah. I locked the keys in the car, like an asshole. I'm sorry, y'all. Shout out to the angle. That's fucking.

Dan, that sucks, dude. I mean, we, it was like early in the morning when it happened. The funny thing was after Ed, like, forced the window down with duct tape, the AAA guy came like 20 minutes later, and he was like, hey, do you guys need me? We're like, we got it, I guess. Here's the broken passenger window. That exploded. It's very nice.

We've had a good time. Well, you guys got a breeze now. But not for nothing, though. as a team we've handled this really great nobody has like lost their fucking shit no one has that's important you know like just gone irrational everybody's just kept in contact

it's great it's kind of beautiful that's great well we got three more weeks of this so yeah don't speak so soon yet no I mean I'm very proud of us dude I mean like most people would fold under the pressure that we've been in with this fan shit and we've all kept it really cool

yeah thank I just been it's been windows and not transmissions Right. You know what I'm saying? We've had the transmission thing happen. We're stuck in like Rock Springs, Wyoming. Dude, actually, there's some deep, we don't know if I guess. There's some deep lore in that time period, too.

We'll talk about it after. Well, this is, listening to watching this is, it is April 10th. The record comes out on the 14th Friday. So either it's coming out in four days or we're listening to it right now. So fucking badass, and you guys, I hope you guys have a safe tour, and I hope nothing else happens with your band. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.

Thanks for having us. This is awesome. Dude, it's crazy what happens when you just fucking see IG reel and now and I'm hanging out. I think that's the sickest thing ever. I didn't say this, but I was a huge fan of your band when I was younger. I was saying, well, we'll talk about it after, but I want to talk to you about some stuff. We're going to punish your ass. We've been waiting.

We'll wait until after me. Jesus peace, piss as fuck, heavy as fuck, and they're not beat down. Check out of new back here. Yeah, thank you. Thanks, y'all. Thank you.