Garza Podcast - 76 - PALEFACE SWISS: Switzerland Beatdown, Schizophrenia & Stealing Girlfriends

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

Garza sits down with Paleface Swiss. We talk about they got into heavy music & became one of the heaviest bands to ever come out of their country. Putting schizophrenia awareness into beatdown & much more! https://www.palefaceswiss.com SPONSORS: Click this link to purchase from Sweetwater & help support the podcast: imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB TIME CODES: 00:00 - Playing Heavy Music 04:02 - Why Add “Swiss” to Name? 07:00 - Greenfield Festival 08:14 - Dan Kenny (Suicide Silence) Getting Paleface Swiss on Frankfurt, Germany Show 10:38 - How They Started Making Music Together By Stealing Each Other’s Girlfriend 18:30 - Chapter 3: The Last Selection Writing Process 21:50 Paleface Swiss Has a Chill Vibe 22:54 - “666”, the Haunting Intro to Fear & Dagger, A Real Recording of a Schizophrenic Episode, Bringing Mental Health Awareness to Music 38:10 - Differences Between Switzerland & the United States (Food, Driving and Geography) 45:26 - First U.S. Tour Being Completely Sold Out (with Bodysnatcher, Angelmaker & Distant) 46:55 - Cultural & Societal Differences (continued) 51:54 - Eating Great Tacos in Exchange for Playing Beatdown Riffs 55:20 - What Got Them Into Heavy Music 59:30 - Illegally Downloading Music (& Other Files), Dangers of VR Porn

So we don't feel like we're an opener band, to be honest, which is a good thing, which is definitely a good thing. It's a first time for us here sold out so many people, very numbers. Yeah, we also have like that first time here bonus, like the people couldn't. That's true, but it's not always a blessing. I heard that. Like, it's not always a blessing to be in a country for the first time as a band. Whenever I need music gear, I always go to sweetwater.com. It bits mics, headphones, or studio and recording gear.

Sweetwater has you covered. Next time you need any music gear, support the podcast by using the link in the description and comment section below. We're being transported right now to Switzerland. Yes, exactly. To the cows and the mountains. Jeez. Yeah. What do you guys have out there?

What's that? What do you have out there? A lot of cows, actually. Cows are my neighbors, kind of. A lot of cheese. It is true. Like a lot of mountains, a lot of cows,

a lot of trees and cheese. For real. And chocolate. And chocolate, too. And a lot of old villages, old towns. But also a lot of expensive cars. Expensive watches.

Expensive watches. It is true. A lot of lakes. Everything, like mostly every single cliche is true about Switzerland. Dude. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking expensive out there.

It is. Bro. It's so. expensive. I think, but I still think it's worth the money you pay because it's a very nice country though. I enjoy living there. It has its price, but it's still worth living there, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Of course. Yeah. So, yeah. It's cool. It's like, man, how does a band come out of here and just play heavy shit, you know? For us, I don't know. It is unreal. Like, for you, like, the crowds reaction and everything, it is so mind-blowing.

It's so crazy. Like I said, none of us has ever been to this country before. None of us ever been to America or whatever. And, yeah, Paleface gave us the opportunity to travel, like, through the whole country and playing live shows in front of so many people and so many people, like, singing along and very no merge and shit. It's absolutely mind-blowing, for real. It is so cool.

And, I mean, we work for it. I think we often say we work. hard for it and now it finally pays off and it was like all of the hard work was so worth it for it yeah it's so cool really cool well uh today we have all a pale face i'm i am honored to sit here and talk to a band that's from clear across the world and you guys as you were just saying deli that uh you guys have you know worked your ass off played and played and played heavy music and now and now you're here yeah in in california yeah did you did you did you you guys ever think you'll ever be in california no plain plain beat down no no and the second

thing i never thought was like when i'm in california i'm pretty sure the sun will be out and no rain yeah i'm sorry dude that that that is true i feel bad for you guys because it's always sunny and like nice outside but today's not i'm sorry it's like first time california it's crazy rain i'm like okay we picked like the only day that it's gonna rain yeah yeah but like the one day in the year we are we're still the sunny boys yeah yeah yeah yeah can we do a quick intro names so yes you want to go first yeah i'm castie i'm the drummer uh yeah sick i'm tommy lee i play the bass sick i'm janic i played the guitar and i'm telly i'm the vocalist of pale face swiss pale face swiss i like i like i like how how it's how

it's in the name. We had to do it. You have to know. Have you heard the story about that? No. It has so much fun. Okay, let's go. Are we allowed to tell that? Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, it's official. It's official, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah, our band name was paleface, just paleface, basically.

And there's another band or a duo. Just a singer-songwriter? Yeah, I guess it's like two people that do like folk music, whatever from the US. and they, yeah, they wanted to, I don't know, not, they wanted to sue us basically because we had the same name as they have, but like, yeah, it's kind of, you can think whatever you want, but we're like, you know what, we just don't want, we don't want any troubles, let's just do Pailfer Swiss, fuck it. Because, I mean, they're Americans and they wanted to sue us, like, just over here in America, and I mean, we had no chance. Like, we would have had chance, though, but I think they had rights on the name pay off.

But I'm not sure if those rides were still active. I don't know. But it would have cost us so much money and so much time. We're like, it will probably end well for us, but still it wasn't worth the money and the time and everything. Which is, you know what? Paleface Swiss, it's fine. Do your thing. If you're happy.

Yeah, it is. It won't help them anything because everyone is still Googling Paleface instead of Paleface Swiss. It's still just us popping up, you know what I mean? And not them. But it's not our problem anymore. Like, we change the name, we're good to go. We're safe now. Yeah, we're safe.

Yeah, we're safe. And we're cool with him, so fuck it. Well, cool. You change your name and now you're in California. Yeah. With rain outside. That's fine. Yeah.

We are used to rain, so we're good. We had some sun yesterday in Arizona. Oh, yeah. I enjoyed it. We enjoyed it. We went for a quick swim in Houston, Texas. Yeah. And we were out in the sun for like 10 minutes.

I was Mr. Krebs. I was red as hell. I'm like, bro, I got sunburned so fast. I'm kind of glad it's not the sunniest day today because otherwise, yeah, I'd be red again. Yeah, I mean, yeah, your skin is not exactly equipped to get a tan, right? No, no.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Esfurturelun sun is a little bit different. Oh, yeah, it is. Definitely. I still get sunburned there all the time. I'm just not able to not get sunburned. But it's definitely not that strong. You know, it's like, yeah. Yeah, and in Switzerland there's winter and it's snowing there.

And we are not used to like, it's February and their sun. Yeah. I think our skin and our bodies are like, what the fuck is going on? You need to be on skis, dude. What are you doing? Oh my God. Oh my goodness. Yeah.

What's that festival you guys out? Is it Greenland? Greenfield. Greenfield. That is a beautiful festival. It is. The way that layout is. Oh, my goodness.

It's also unbelievably expensive, but it's very beautiful. It's a beautiful, like, landscape, like, mountains around there, the infield and everything. It's beautiful. But also, yeah. Even though for us with people, it's very expensive to have fun there. Like, buy beer or something. It costs you a liver. Oh, my goodness.

Really? So that's what? That's why you guys fly here and then we're drinking beer and whiskey so everyone knows what we're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Even if you're broke, you can still afford it. Okay. That's... Hints. Hence, I'm broke. I can still afford.

Thanks a lot. That's nice. Yeah. Cheers. Cheers, guys. Thank you. Cheers. Cheers.

Heavy riffs, dude. What's up? Greater. so I found out about oh my gosh Hanneken so I found out about pale face through our base player Dan Kenny

I was like who's his pale face and that he has something due with getting pale face on the Frankfurt Germany show correct? Yes I think you had you texted with him right oh I know I just I just said you guys say

the base player of suicide silence just wrote us and oh it was on the band page I thought he and then I and texted Sally and I think you wrote him back oh yeah yeah I don't know but I thought it was your private account but no no no it was on the band page okay so he he messaged you and what is what did you think I was like whoa okay okay I was like a little shocked it was I don't know and then I texted the boys and they were all like oh yeah first Frank Ford show yeah just kidding we were obviously very very honored I mean let's be honest everyone grew up listening to you guys I mean we're young like I am I am

way too young he's a little how do you tell you I'm 23 I turned 23 a couple a month ago okay yeah still young as hell he's like a year older than me a few years yeah 27 you're the grader yeah no I'm gonna be 31 on this tour congratulations you made it so far yeah I mean I can still sneeze without like hurting myself too bad okay that that's a very good sign so for you guys now we were we were on it I mean like I said everyone of us who are listening to you guys so it was a big honor and it was like kind of we were extremely excited to find that I meet you guys and I have to be honest when I first heard you

guys sound checking the song on I answered I was like I never saw your guys life before to be honest it was the first time for me I was like sick like like goosebumps and I was going to be a fun nice it's cool man sure it was a lot of fun and uh it's crazy that I listen to you guys now yes it's it's backwards now man it's life it's so cool life is life is cool man it is right now it's very Very much fun. And you, pill face is heavy. I didn't really know. And to be honest with all you is that, so we played a show with you and then went home obviously.

And then I found out this was going to happen. Because we were talking for a while. Oh, yeah. We were actually in Switzerland talking about you guys coming on a podcast. Right? Yeah. Oh, that never said. I was serious.

I want to talk to you guys. You guys are fucking crazy. And then finally when we all confirmed, I was like, so I did the deep dive. I was listening to your music, really listening. I'm at the gym doing fucking bench press. I'm like, oh, this is, this is heavy. Like you guys are like, I think it sounds like you guys really come from like, you guys have roots and like beat down. you know which is like kind of shocking to me so please please help me learn like how did you guys

start playing the music that you started playing being from where being from where you're from it's oh that's a fun i think that that's a funny story is it like how we got together playing that music or or is it like why the whole the whole thing yeah how the band like evolved like yeah making this kind of music from like the beat down um you have to start you're the root basically. Yeah, you're the root of this whole ship. Okay, got it. So, my musical career

started when I was young. So I always wanted to play drums first. But we couldn't afford like a drum kit or whatever. So I was like, I'm not able to play any string guitars because of a... How's it called? My fingers are fucked. Like I have a... Stupid fingers.

Whatever. Fuck it. Me too stupid fingers. Stupid fingers. I'm like physically not even able to play it. But whatever. So I thought I need to use the voice basically. So I started like screaming around like basically every metal vocalist.

Let's be honest, I just screamed around and I'm like, yo, I want to become a vocalist. So I met our drummer back in the days through a mutual friend and everything. And I met you because of a girl. because of a girl. Oh yeah. Yeah, he was in love with a girl. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Oh, that I ended up in a relationship with. Like, I... We were dating and one day, Sally came in, came to a show and she was like, okay, bye, Yannick. No. And now you're sitting here together. And I was so pissed. I was so pissed.

But I asked her a couple of times, like, is it just a friend because I don't want to like I don't I didn't knew him she was like no it's just a friend like nothing wrong with it and we were dating yeah and I found out with her a couple of months later he cheated on me I'm like yo you bitch I'm like I'm like you you didn't text me you didn't text me you came on a show are you of my former first band yeah just such a local band I came out. Like, bro, I just heard the whole story.

I'm so sorry. He was like, yeah, it's fine. Let's have a beer. And like, now we're best friends. He was falling on his knees and said, like, bro, I'm so sorry about this whole thing. And I was like, dude, it's cool, man. Yeah, I didn't knew. But yeah.

Just give me your phone number and we can do some things. Hey, you want to have, you want to start a band? Yeah. And apparently, like, we lived like 10 minutes away from each other. And we didn't knew each other, which was like even even crazier though. And yeah, we're best friends since, since, since, Since then, we found you through Facebook. Yeah, Facebook.

We need a bass player, so I was like, yeah, cool, let's go. Yeah, so we, yeah, that's how we met. I was the hardcore beatdown boy. He was the fresh metal boy since ever. You were the slam boy. And you're like death metal and new metal too. And we're like, let's just combine all of those genres and just create something we're happy with.

And here we are. Yeah, California. Here we are. Now in California. It's funny how, like, the band started were like, okay, like you, imagine. You remember how pissed you were when that girl left? I was not even pissed. I was sad.

I was really sad. Did you cry? Did you cry? No. I don't know. I think. A little bit? I don't know.

Okay. I didn't cry. I'm so sorry. You can tell. Zellie's a dick. I asked her like a thousand times But she was like No, all good

I'm just a friend Imagine that moment And now you're in California And now like the whole The whole cycle started with a band And that's I never heard that story before That's pretty bizarre

We both actually invited her For our first ever concert But you guys are weird man But just like so You know It's your fault. You have to go to her show. Oh, yeah. She was supposed to be the special guest at a night.

Yeah, but she didn't show up. Just like, it was just funny to bring this whole thing together like, hmm? You see what happened? Huh? But, yeah, she didn't show up. Oh, she didn't show up? No. It was just like, yeah, we were drunk, like, let's invite her to the first show.

Oh, well. Come on, it's kind of funny. It's weird. It's weird as hell, but it's so funny. Come on. It's weird, but it is still very funny. Oh, cool. We should have fired her to show. Let's text her at 4 a.m.

Hey, right? Yeah. Send her a message on Facebook. You know? That's cool. So when you're talking, I mean, it's cool, that definitely explains the sound of your band because you added all these different elements.

You know, you got like the new metal death metal, like the slam, like the thrash metal, and then like this beat down, and he just combined it. all these things and may like your own sound. It's pretty cool. Thank you. You know?

Thank you. And now it's as heaviest buck. It's great. It just happened. Yeah. The sound just... We didn't have like a... We never had any structures though.

No, no. We're just like, let's write a song. It just do something. Yeah. It happens. Yeah. Yeah. We never had...

I mean, the new song is more structured than ever. But like everyone, like, majors. Is it matures? Like getting older and everything and grows with the music, whatever. But like, yeah, we never, we like, what was it? Like the only rule we want to follow is never follow any rules in writing music. That's like the only rule we had, which is crangers hell. But it worked, bro.

Like, I mean, worked. We just did. Not try hard, unique stuff. More like, let's just do something. Like, let's just do whatever we want. But I think that's what everyone is doing, what everyone should do. And it worked for us, luckily. Yeah.

It's good. So you guys came out. You came out of the gate. Like, there's no rules. We're going to play what we want to play. Yeah. You know, it's great because a lot of bands don't do that. They have, like, this, like, some conscious rules.

Yeah. That they put themselves without. It's like, this is nothing. And let's just go all in and write and write them, like, whatever we want to write. You know, what's, like, like, I definitely want to talk about me personally. I'm a fan of chapter three. And how, like, how are you guys writing music then? It was basically until the newer songs that will come out.

It was basically just us to hanging out and doing stuff. Yeah. There was never, like, a line we followed. I like I content it like It's always the same or like We just like after work We just hung out in our Self-made home studio basically

Which is like Let's do something Let's continue doing that thing Like next day And next week, whatever And just like chapter Chapter 3 was born We don't have any

Like it's just Yeah it's just Just what it is We don't have like a I don't know no no no like just go with the flow yeah

we just we just hang out and did stuff and yeah oftentimes they would just like come with those like sometimes two songs written

and they showed it to us and we were like yeah fuck let's like jam it on the next band practice and it was perfect the way it was so I had a lot of fun and it was still like just

if you can say like a hobby thing Just we had fun writing some shit and we actually that's also a thing we never we never Chammed in the rehearsal room To to like get ideas for a new song like you you just said we wrote a song and then we jammed it and it sounded sick But we never jammed before like we never hung out all together did something like oh yeah, let's record that We never did it. I don't know it's just not for us. We're just like sitting like we are sitting now with the computer in front of us with the guitar in the sense and I'm like drum producing like oh that's cool beat like yeah let's go I have a vocal idea of drama yeah let's go that's it and we came up with chapter 3 it sounds

like yeah you based on like a lot of feel feel having good times hanging out oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah and a love obviously I love emotions and shit but also in course yeah I mean that's just basically else like having a good time together yeah that's just what pale face it's all about yeah yeah it's great that's it like we like everything is kind of not original but like true to ourselves kind of like we it's just who we are if you don't like it you don't like us personally too like we we are we are the same people in the internet and on shows and in private like if you don't like the music then you probably won't like us yeah we are we are not fake I'm like, yeah, we're the real.

We are the real Swiss quality. My goodness. You know, just being around, you know, I'm not sure this is a good thing in our bathroom, but I'm just getting this overwhelming feeling of drinking a lot. Oh, do it. I am. I'm drinking right now. But I want to do it fast.

That was the cue? Yes. And that is the cue. When we got shot glasses, come on. Yeah, you guys had a good vibe to you. Thank you. Oh, thank you. you know very uh and so on that we're good you know what i have to drive i have to drive

oh yeah jelly is smart thank you so you're oh cheers cheers cheers heavy riff beat down new metal just gets up that's it thank you oh you actually went for the shot i'm i'm all right do you thank you that's how i was a What the fuck, man? Holy shit, I'm on camera. No man, lights out. It's a great song.

Cursed us. I mean, and it's, you guys, it goes to show, man. You guys are just vibing, writing sick tunes. And it's what, having a good time. It's dope.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you so much. Okay. I was planning to ask you later, but I'll ask now because it's what's coming to my mind.

what's up with the intro that has you know like for which record are we talking like all of our intros are kind of it's a like you he had a fan oh yeah yeah okay yeah

for fear and dagger yeah I'll tell the story because it's like you don't have to but I will for short for sure so a fan hit me up like he's is it called schizophrenic

in English. Like, obviously, like, English is not our mother tongue, so please bear with me if I say something wrong, though. Try my best. But, yeah, he hit me up, and he was like, yo, I really like your band.

I really like the stuff you're writing about, and it really helps me, like, getting along with my, like, schizophrenia, right? And he was like, a thing that helped him, every time he had those, I don't know how it was a call in English,

though, like every time he had... Episodes. Episodes, yeah, basically. He recorded himself and was like, listen to it again when he was, when he's not having an episode. Is it? Yeah. Correct. So that helped him like, realizing what's going on and everything.

I was like, yeah, that's that I'm glad for you. And he was like, maybe he can help other people with that too. I don't know. I was like, yeah, why not? And he really wanted to send me his recordings and he really wanted to, that we, if we, if we want to, to and to use it for an intro because he was like he is getting along with it like he can deal with it way better since he's doing stuff like that he since he's open-minded with with his schizophrenia i was like first we were all like yo uh we're not sure because we don't think that

schizophrenia something like that isn't something we should like use for entertaining purposes or like making money with or whatever but then he was like like, yo, let's be honest, like, this shit is real. Like, we just want to, like, open that the people's eyes, basically, with it. Like, we always, like, it's still wrong if we don't use it because it's real. It's not fake. Like, there's a lot of people out there who suffer from schizophrenia or whatever. So we were like, let's use it and let's try to open people's eyes.

Like, like, it felt wrong. and we were like, let's just not use it because we could get like hate or whatever, or people will not understand it because that's the way it's, it always been, and it's not getting better that way. So we used it. So it's a tough intro, I think. It's a hard one, but it's still, it's perfect for that record, I think, because it's like I said, it's raw.

It's true. It's, yeah, whatever. it's real. To be honest, the first time I heard it, it actually brought me to tears. And then, like, realizing we couldn't use that to do something positive with it, because objectively, it's a sick-ass intro. But if you know the source matter, it, like, hits real. Like, yeah, it hits home.

And just for me personally, like, dealing with, like, different types of, like, everyone deals with something, with mental health and everything. and hearing that intro, like, before the show gets me real hype. Even though, like, we heard it now for, what, 50 times? A billion times. I swear, I still love it. Every time it starts to play, it's just that the first sense, like, I don't want to hear it. And I'm instantly somewhere else.

Whoa. So I just like to, yeah. Favo, our sound guy, too. Like, when he first heard it, he was like, it was, like, closing his ears because he couldn't, like, listen to it any longer because, like, he has a lot of, like, mental, uh, health problems issues. So he was also like, but in a good way kind of. Like he covered his ears because not because he thought it was so terrifying,

whatever, more like he connect with it so much. And that's what we kind of want. Like open, just open your eyes. I mean, let's be honest, Switzerland is way, way far behind when it comes to like mental health stuff. Really? Yeah, no one gives the fuck. In Switzerland, it feels like you grow up.

you just need to make money make money be productive you know buy a house do family and everything very conservative yeah no one gives a fuck about how you feel it feels like that yeah they don't know that you can look at it as an illness you know if you i mean if you run if you nose runs i'm sorry or something you're or you're or you're sick you're ill or something like that you know but if you feel like depressed or something like that they don't get a fuck just like be happy there's so much good in the world but it's like i mean you live in switzerland how can you live in the richest country in the you can't tell someone who is asthmatic like yeah there's so much oxygen in the air like just breathe no if you depressed you're like that's why we also wanted to do that because

swiss people open your fucking eyes like what is wrong with you you know what i mean not everyone obviously but yeah that's why we really wanted to stick to that um whole thing yeah yeah we felt it was right yeah yeah even though it's like very not not not race keep but you know what i mean like it's we still feel let's do it it's it's it's the right also like to break the moniker like you don't even if you want to be tough or you have to be tough or everything like the toughest dudes i know suffer from depression and like do cry as well and that's also something like you don't have to be ashamed of that yeah for sure yeah so that's the whole thing about that intro long story but yeah no it's a short for it's great yeah i like it and um thank you

Even though it's a very, you can say, extreme intro, it sounds like you guys put a lot of thought into it. Is this right? Should we do this? Given the thought and the time you put into it and the content matter, you did it because it was right. Yes. Yeah, thank you.

What did... Just to wrap up this story. Like, what did you first feel and think when you heard it? The first time you're like, what is like that's tough because it was a long time ago when I heard it the first time

do you guys remember like that now because I have to know now I remember pretty vividly I was scared scared yeah I was actually scared I felt pretty uncomfortable first in the bad way but then in the good way but like

yeah I also connected with it somehow and just the fact that it was real like it's not like just a sound from a movie or something. That's what I thought. It's something as real. Like the first time I heard it, I didn't make it through almost. I got to put the way the headphones and just

like breathe for a moment. And yeah, to be honest, just have a just a little sip and then go back into it. I learned to like to enjoy it. But yeah, that was like my experience with it. Give me a little bit of whiskey to handle this fucking song, man. Yeah. Oh my goodness. It felt so raw. And like what he says and how he says it. Yeah.

I knew it like I knew it was a real recording and I was like whoa so this is real you know what I mean I was I think I was like that so yeah for me it's like I'm the only guy like I texted with him a long time before he sent me that so I was like yeah I getting to know him and everything so I like I was the only one of the band who had contact with or to him or whatever. So I was like it didn't catch me off guard because we talked a lot of like schizophrenia and everything. You know what I mean? I kind of knew what will like what I had to expect or whatever. So it wasn't like it's it was shocking. Don't get me wrong. I guess it was well but I'm like that guy. I was more like like my first thought was like it's like it's

amazing in its own kind of way, you know what I mean? Like it is amazing in terms of like open your eyes or like whatever. But also I was like can we use it? Should we use it? I was like think like I had so many thoughts in my head. I'm not as you, you will like breathe for a second. I'm like yo what should we do? Should we use it? Should we not? Should we like leave it raw? Whatever you know what I mean? But yeah also I I texted with him a long time before that. So it was like he was preparing me for that like he was, like he was preparing me for that. Like He told me what I'm about to hear or whatever. So the moment I heard it was, I knew we would use that as an intro.

So I had like this base to like... Oh yeah, you, I already told you, yo, we will use it like we talked about it and everything. Just listen to it and I hope you like it. Yeah. Do you know like, because I want to... I have to. I want to play five seconds of it. Yeah.

Or 10. Where's like a good time marker? Like 10 seconds in, 20, 40. I think about 20 seconds. When his first like scream comes up, that's like where all the people are like, yo, this shit's real. Like the first few seconds, he's just talking. Like at a certain point, he starts to scream out loud.

And I was like, yo, that's hard. Oh, geez. oh my holy moly yeah all right RJ we're good we're fucking good man yeah

and that's why you're that's why your that's why your pillow pace that's sick and I mean he told me in details what he saw

what he saw when he recorded that I mean we can just hear the recordings but like like he saw stuff right while he was recording it

and he told me everything that he saw I'm basically like did the only one who knows everything because I think it's too private to tell you know what I mean like on a podcast agree so um yeah but like I always have like those images um like in front of my eyes but like what what he told me when I listen to that intro which is more which is even more like kind of it's hard it's hard so yeah man this is sick yeah this is awesome I mean I well I I I appreciate you going in

depth with what that's what I came from I was like I want I want to ask him are they they gonna answer it I don't know oh yeah so I mean I mean like it's also like it it helps people to open up their their eyes when we talk about it you know I mean like they they know the story behind it they're like yeah yes let's let's connect to that and keep on going well given where where you're from it it's only appropriate to read what we have up here just got people there's you Humans hear words all the time and see people all the time, but they don't really know the meaning of the words. You hear the word, especially around here, you hear the word, schizo, schizophrenic.

People don't really know what it means. So if you type in schizophrenic on Google, you have schizophrenia is a serious mental disorder in which people interpret reality abnormally. pretty nuts may result in some combination of hallucinations delusions and extremely distorted thinking and behavior

that impairs daily functioning that can be disabling that's it's pretty nuts dude because a lot of people think that's schizophrenia is just when you have multiple personalities but that's not

no but that's not actually it yes yeah oh jeez um i wasn't i wasn't i wasn't i wasn't planning to talk about yeah i have a i have a brother that has a that that that has this it's hard it's hard to see he's he's in his he's in his 50s this is hard like because i you know i grew up with them

so you see if someone be like a certain with normal normal as i'm doing quotations and then you see him like we're like what the fuck yeah you know So CNB homeless and So the fact that you guys Like Put this out on a record I think it's extremely important And I think it's fucking sick

Thank you so much I think I think This adds impact to what To the meaning of the word It adds to impact to To your music And you guys have a foundation of like You know

I'm honored to know you guys In person now I play to show you guys And now you're here in person From fucking across the world You guys You guys are you guys are you and you're reals to have like that

authentic foundation and then to do something like this it takes me back to like you know I'm not calling you new metal but it takes me back to like that that you know you remember hearing corn's daddy yeah you're like what the fuck is going on dude yeah it's it's rare it's rare when you get that feeling again

but so every once in a while it comes back up it's sick thank you thank you thank you Thank you man. You guys brought it man, sick. I mean, we all love new metal so much. So it's kind of a big, big like, compliment. So yeah, we are, yeah, that's sick. That's sick. And then you add a beat down to it. What's that? Oh yeah, and trash metal and everything. Just be yourself, yeah.

Just be yourself. Yeah. It's cool. Oh my, I'm sorry. I'm trying to, I'm trying to gather myself to be honest. I'm sorry. it's all no all good I'll good take it yeah it's cool man you got

you guys are you guys are awesome you know thank you so much thank you so much likewise heavier shut up man heavier shit

dude you know thank you and uh you guys make me want to drink a lot I'm not sure that's a good thing what's that

you guys made me want to drink a lot uh I'm like as long as you feel comfortable with it it's definitely a good thing it is you know I learned I'm in the hard way

that to to drink responsibly And Because, you know, back, you know, I'm 37 now And my early mid-20s It was definitely a escape of life And an idiot kid I got fat

Dude, I'm almost fat You was like, well, yeah They always like, you know, you could Because then you get drunk as fuck And then you want to, you know, you want to eat McDonald's all the time and then, you know, burritos. Yeah. You know.

That's also something. It's different out here, bro, when it comes to fast food and stuff. Like we talked about that with Angel Maker. Like in Switzerland, like, it's the complete opposite. Like, they told us, like, if you want to, like, go to a grocery store's where you can, like, buy healthy stuff. Like, you have to drive sometimes, like, for an hour or so. But, like, fast food is just around the corner.

For us, it's like the complete opposite. Like, for fast food, you have to drive sometimes 30 minutes or an hour. Depends where you live. You serious? Yeah. Grocery stores is like in every fucked-up small village. Like you can find fresh salad, fresh fruits, fresh vegetables. Everywhere.

On every corner, basically. And mostly the unhealthy shit is more expensive than the healthy shit. Yeah, which is that complete opposite over here. So we were, let's say, not shocked, but still, you know, this shit is real. Like, we heard that, but we're like, it can't be real, but it is real. Which is like for us, it's, it is kind of shocking. Let's be honest, bro. Like, I have to pay more for an apple than for a burger.

I'm like, what? That's crazy. And also, like, your small sizes are our large sizes. And I thought that was a joke everywhere. We always joke about that. Like, the first time I ordered that cup and I was like small. And she gave me that cup. I was like, no, no, I said small.

It's fucking it, bro. What? Bro, it's tiny. The best thing I still, like, and someone told me, like, it's true. Like, you came up. I was like, yeah, let's walk over there. He was like, bro, win America. Everything, like, every distance that's longer than a car, we need to drive.

Yeah. I'm like, what the fuck? That's like the rule. And one came, and who came up to him was like, bro, it's true. I never leave my house without my car. Never. I'm like, it is really like, it is new for us. It's not, not bad, but.

But either you can also like park everywhere. Yeah, that's also like in Switzerland you cannot. Like you have to fight for a parking lot. Like no one goes to shows, for example, by car. Like still a lot of people do so. But I think it's like 50% goes by train. More. I'd say 50% of the public transportations or just walk.

Yeah, more than 50%. Like in Switzerland, I think Europe in general, when you leave the house with your car like you always think that I should have to park somewhere and that always like is it really necessary to drive my car now it's like it was

everything's like in terms that it's so new for us out here like it's like really like we kind of knew it but still it is real which is still like but it's awesome it's really hard

it's fun it's too much but I'm pretty sure like we all talked about that Like, it's a beautiful and an interesting country to visit. But I talk to a lot of, a lot of, like, citizens, and they like to live here, it's probably not the best country. I'm not like, I can imagine. I mean, if you have to eat fast food all day long or whatever, it can be not that cool, like, over a long time, whatever. But to visit, for us, it is beautiful. Yeah, awesome.

Crazy. And I do come up to me with like, yo, when it comes, wait until you have to visit. Is it a dentist, bro? I'm like, okay, I got it. I got it. Like, okay, yeah. Like I said, it's new. It's new for us.

It's very interesting. We are learning and stuff about that kind. It's very interesting, but also like, yeah, new. And a lot of fun and... Yeah, for us it's a lot of fun. It's beautiful and cool. But we are interested in like the, also like the downsides. I want to know how it is to live out here because like I said,

We don't have that, to be honest. We don't have that in Switzerland, the way you have it. So I want to know how it is. You know, like living in... You have cities as big as Switzerland, you know what I mean? It is so crazy. It's not... Yeah, it's not imaginable for us.

If like someone from the other bands, for example, on this tour, tells us, yeah, we're going to eat at a spot just around the corner and it's like a 20 to 30-minute drive. And first, that's... Yeah, Chris also told us, It's right next to the venue. I'm like, I forgot it's in America, bro. We have to drive 20 minutes.

For us 20 minutes, you're like skip two towns. For me, like next to the venue is like the same building. Like maximum like two minute walk. I'm like, fuck, I forgot we're in America. That's like something I really love about America. It's like everything is big and spacey. So you have like room to breathe and everything. That's true.

In Switzerland you feel like almost claustrophobic. Yeah, that's true. There's business everywhere. Yeah. And in Zurich, like, everyone is stressed and arrogant and like money, money, money, money, money, business. Dude, the friendliness over here was overwhelming. Exactly. Exactly when it comes to driving on the street.

Bro. But that's in every country, to be honest. To be honest, like in Switzerland, when you have to like switch lanes, they're like, yeah, sure, go for it. And he'll like, fuck you. That's my lane. I don't give it fun. That's my lane. I don't give it fuck.

A truck motherfucker let's see about that. That's one of the first things I was like, okay, okay, fuck you. Dude, but American highways are wild, man. What they're talking with with pickup trucks, that's crazy. That's how pickup truck with a fucking house on wheels back. And then another car at the back of the house, bro, it is so... We saw one pickup truck with like four like sandbogies loaded back. It is so, like, everything is new.

Like for us, it's like, we're like little boys like, oh my god, everything is so big. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool. But in a good way, in a good way, you don't get me wrong. Like two weeks in, and it still feels like a dream. Yeah. Weird kind of surreal experience.

I mean, we are like, keep in mind from Switzerland, bro. I don't know. I don't know one or two or three bands or whatever. Like Switzerland isn't that, like when it comes to movies and music and stuff. Switzerland isn't the most international country. No, no. That makes it even more special, to be honest. It's so cool.

So cool to be here. The only international thing is the money in the packs. Yeah. And the chocolate. Yeah, and the watches. Yeah. Watchers chocolate. Yeah, yeah.

Swiss cheese. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, I mean, dude. So again, this is like your first time, this is Pillface's first time touring the States. And what a great Twitter be on? Yeah. You know it is. It's completely sold out.

I just got the update for New York, which was the last year that it's not sold out. And it's like 80 to 90 to 90. 90% sold out, so it will be sold out, let's be honest. So it's a first time you ask completely sold out. I know we're opener and everything, but still the crowd's reaction, let's be honest, we can tell that we're like that people were looking to looking forward to see us, you know what I mean? Like a lot of people, a lot of people sing along to our songs. Yeah, I love that.

So we don't feel like we're an opener band, to be honest, which is a good thing, which is definitely good thing. it's a first time for us here sold out so many people very number we also have like that first time here bonus like the people couldn't that's that's true but it's not always a blessing i heard that like it's not always a blessing to be in a country for the first time as a as a band it's always like yeah it's the first time your opener he's like 100 bucks for a show whatever you know i mean i heard that before too from like friends bands and whatever so we are yeah we we are so thankful So cool. I'm just type of,

I can't try out. It's so cool. It's great. You guys are very good. It's good to hear like a fresh perspective on, on here. And so basically we have a shitty drivers and too much food, right? Well, well. But, yeah.

I mean, that's not. I mean. Don't forget. Also, shitty water. Oh, I'm so sorry. I have to try to tell you. It's also new for us to not be able to drink tap water. That's for sure.

But we knew that. We knew that. I didn't know that. We used to now. Yeah. Yeah. It's like everything is in bottles and everything is in those plastic bags. That's also something.

It's also new for us. Like we barely buy water in bottles in Switzerland. No, no. And everyone has its own. shopping bag oh yeah yeah that's also something like they put like no matter what the fuck you're buying Walmart they put it into those plastic bags it doesn't matter what it is if it's a cow yeah okay okay like an environmentalist in in America you get a fucking hard

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely definitely let's fucking go it's cool but don't don't get me wrong it's like we we it's just different Yeah, it's just, I enjoy like the little differences. It's really different. And everyone makes, not makes fun of it, but everyone is like talking about it. It's funny. It's new and it's funny and it's, yeah.

But also, there's a lot of stuff about Switzerland and the same thing, you know what I mean? So. Yeah, we're not perfect. Nope. No, no. No, no, I'm the worst. But I always, people are just go by habit. Like, you literally, like, I always do it almost daily.

Like, if someone's putting shit in a bag, You have to physically say don't put in the back. Yeah. There's always, they're always in like a habit. To me, my, my big thing is water. Like, let's say you're at a restaurant or you're eating anywhere. Like, it's always like, don't give me more water. Because I don't want to leave the table with a full thing in water.

Because water is a shortage. You know? Yeah. It is. You have, you have like water shortage here. Water shortages and down in Mexico where they don't have water for it to make, like, fruits and vegetables. So I'm like, you know, little things. you gotta tell me

don't put, because they're so accustomed it's like water bags and like plastic and it's just like you gotta be like

yeah that's also something they always refill our cups yeah and we're like the first time we're like

what is this bro who ordered that yeah it got it got hostile very quickly like who ordered that yeah

oh yeah there's only one coke on the receipt but I was like excuse me man do we like we we haven't ordered

to do also like the first time we um like they came with the coffee and like do you want some more we were all like no we're good

and it felt like we were in some things like the wage oh wow you don't want coffee yeah like in Switzerland it would be that way no you have to order another coffee

yeah yeah yeah you have to pay for the second cost yeah sure but if they offer you that and you're like now I'm good to say you root motherfucker I'm gonna drink it by myself that's like

a bad thing in Switzerland though like it's here's everyone is so friendly and like yeah let's have another drink let's let's do that let's do that and in Switzerland is like oh you don't want to drink with me well fine motherfucker I'm gonna find someone else I like okay yeah the thing is when you order something you're they can't get that but without me then they're like you're

really want to you really want to do that if you want to yeah you really want to piss me off I'm like okay sorry yeah and yeah that's cool out here like everyone is friendly and open mind yeah yeah you're sure no problem yeah let's do it let's do it let's all That's cool. That's really cool. We enjoy that. Also, you walk by people and they're like, hey, cool shirt or hey, I like that. Just walk by and you're like, me? What happened? What happened? Yeah.

You never get that in Switzerland. Never. Never. Never. Never. You can walk around like the most beautiful dude or like the most extrovert, whatever, like, dress or whatever. No one gives a fuck. Like they all like.

No, there was just like like this. Yeah. Everyone looks like this. Oh, they're like. you just want the attention yeah just dress more classic i'm like thank you like you too even just if we want to ask somebody for a cigarette it's like a very tense situation like can i have any smoke and they first like can you buy your own cigarette you get that yeah just a one you can we're fucking peasant yeah so yeah but different countries

different habits you said yeah yeah here it's so like you want you want you want a cigarette you just sure hey you want you want you want my house yeah yeah so like you get you never get that in Switzerland how many dates do you have in California three three three friends no and San Francisco and and then there's will there are four dates Roseville too yeah four day okay yeah see Fresno San Francisco oh you're in your four days yeah nice yeah it's four Oh, yeah. Roswell.

I normally don't do this, but you guys, I mean, I have to talk about food right now. Like, are you planning to eat anything? You have to eat in California. In terms of what, like... I would say Mexican food. Okay. Like, everybody told me get some street tacos. That's what all the people told me like.

We just ate the most, like the fanciest tacos in the world, I guess. Yeah. Oh, yes. Right before that podcast, oh, that was sick. We had like kind of a, I don't know, like our manager and a Buchananian and everyone was like, they're all here in LA for the show. And they invited us to a, a good restaurant, I'd say, a good Mexican lunch. Well, like we hadn't had any time with like 20 minutes time. Everyone was like nicely dressed up and we'll walk in there like stink it.

But that's fine. And we ate the best tacos. Because I ever had, like, it looked like I could breathe that in because it was so small. Like, like, it's done. But still, it was perfect, bro. Like, I'm like, good for now. But it wasn't much. It costed much, but it was worth it, bro.

It was so delicious. Even, like, the shader was golden. Oh, my God took the best shit of. And we're like, we're at home. Do you remember where this was? Next to Disneyland. Should we give them a shout

out at the restaurant? It was something with Peepe I still got it on my phone. Next to the Disneyland. Wait, where we got it. But at least you had Mexican food in California. It's called. Yeah, but we still need to get

the authentic street taco like the guy on the side of the street with a truck. It's Puestow Anaheim It was delicious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pasta. It was very delicious. Wow.

Yeah, you guys had the experience. Great. Yeah, we had it. Yeah, it's this one. Yeah, it was, it was a lot. Yeah, this one. You guys went to a spot. I don't know.

We got, like, they just drove to that, drive to that address and we're like, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I woke up like five minutes before. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I was just like, everything is golden and we have tacos. I was like, yeah. This is extremely nice even to me. I live here. This is amazing. This is top-notch.

Yeah. So we're even more thankful to have the opportunity to eat those now. Dude, you, by playing beat on a row. And you're eating here. Yeah. Let's fucking go. I don't even eat here. I'm gonna sue the sons. I don't even eat here. I got a big pale face. What's up, dude?

Yeah, I'm in, dude. Let's go. Next time we're here, should we make a promise. Next time we're here and you are here to. two let's go we invite you to eat at that restaurant oh yeah yeah thank you yeah yeah you have it on camera yeah yeah next time we're here we'll go eat there only because it's a fact it's it's pretty mind-blowing to me how how how far your band's come and now now you're here um like what like what what you got you guys into like heavy shit anger nice good slip knot i i i like when i was little my my dad had a had a had an

and he was like into rock like nickel back and stuff and I grabbed his iPad and was going to the music library and there was the song All the Hope is gone by step and yeah I'm that young okay I'm that I'm sorry I'm trying to calm down yeah yeah I'm young so that was the song All Hope is gone night I I press playing like yeah with that so I got into that yeah but I the first electric guitar was from Nickelback I guess, which is still I like Licklebeck, blame me. I don't care. I love them, too.

Yeah, we sang along to them together a lot. So yeah, but All Hopes Gone was the first song I heard of Slipknot. That's a great song here. It is, and that got me into having music. I started with power metal. Okay. I was into Halloween when I was a kid. And obviously ACDC and all the those rock bands,

Led Zeppelin and the Who and stuff but like Halloween was the first metal band I listened to and then I discovered creator and then I got into the heavy shit dang that's the story and

Sally introduced me to those beat down hardcore stuff but I was the metal boy he used the all right I am I am that that metal head but it's so sick. Oh my goodness.

For me basically it's like songs from my dad like the old songs like the Iron Maiden Jesus Priest and then started going into like the Viking stuff and death metal like Eamon Amon Amos and Armine and stuff

and then just getting heavier over time so sometimes when we drive we're like really in the vibe. We listen to the raise your horns playlist. Yeah it's called the raise your horns playlists was like the good heavy metal shit really big yeah yeah yeah was like typical like Papa Roach Lincoln Park then later corn slip knot and like corn was the first band that like

introduced me into like heavy really heavy shit and yeah I was typical that that like odd kid who didn't fit in anywhere but as soon as I listen to corn or slip knot you like feel you belong somewhere yeah even do you don't in your real life so you have that real new metal experience. Yeah, of course. I thought that's sick. That's why I still, to this day, a lot for new metal. Like, I know it gets a lot of shit, but I don't understand.

I mean, like, for me, it was a good gateway into, like, heavier shit. Now, today, what does it for me is, like, the old school 80s, 90s death metal, like, suffocation, for example. But I still jam and love, like, corn, slip knot and, like, mudwain, everything like that, yeah. It's cool. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. like new metal takes you to like a different place you're like oh you like oh I feel like I don't I feel I belong here

yeah also it's crazy how it did that also like growing up with old school hip hop on the other way like Bhutan Dalai the people Sep Brazil and everything especially corn like the songs they did with Nas and Ice Cube like it melted everything I loved

about music in just one like thing you could like really combine it to fit in that was for me yeah I was always like that kid back in the corner with like the like the 128 megabyte hype. Of course. Like no type like MP3 play back in the day. Just like jamming to like soulfly corn everything.

Oh shit. Awesome. Yeah. So all that was full of new metal, huh? Yeah. I'm always saying this because you're a younger band and these are what you guys had, right? Oh yeah. Yeah.

Not even. I couldn't afford that. I had the shitty LP3 player. You remember when it used to like risk give your PC like every type of virus just to get a shit version of a song? I remember that too, bro.

And I'm, yeah, I remember. So am I going to download this record and my computer's going to go into shit? So basically you pay $1,000 for a fucking a record, right? Yeah, yeah, basically. Yeah. If you look back on like, I'm a assuming that the websites you're talking about is like Napster, LimeWire.

Okay, no, I just use YouTube to MP3 converter. That's it. Okay. Yeah, shout out. The next step. Okay. Line wire was way worse. Okay.

If you think about it, like, yeah, look at this. No, I have no idea, bro. Yeah. Those files were just injected with viruses. Yeah. Yeah. No matter who, how small the death metal band was, your mental band, you're downloading viruses. Yeah.

Crazy. It's basically a virus library. Like, you get to 99% of the download and they would just corrupt the whole file. Oh, yeah. It just stops. It stops. And if it downloaded, you didn't know if it was like, you could listen to it or not. And then you had like the bootleg versions, which sound awful.

Yeah. Especially when you're downloading porn, you're so mad. When it gets like 99%, you know, it's like 9. saying it stops you're like oh my god you're like fucking jagging knob you're like oh no you're so close you kids don't know how easy you have it is this i mean i grew up with we are porn so um oh all right we used to jack off to like oh no no with a weird like shape yeah that could look like an ass oh yeah funny our yeah we we were like off the shapes

Color and shape, okay, great. Yeah, let's fucking go. National Geographic magazines. Yeah. Speaking of that. Just in the middle. And closing the subject, where we're talking about these guys, don't ever get into VR porn.

That's too much. It's too much. I never tried it out. It's too much. I haven't never tried it. I won't ever try that because it's too, it's too much of, you're trying to make it reality. Should we do it?

You know, no. We should do it. No. Come on, guys. Let's fucking go. We'll let you know how it is. Yeah. That's just too much disconnect from like reality and like women and and the experience of sex.

Don't don't do it. But maybe you're missing out on the best night of your life. No, no, no, no. Oh my goodness. I got sure. We're just saying that like, yeah, don't ever. You talked about that earlier or is it like the VR thing? You talked about that?

Oh, yeah. Off pod. We were like talking like about like, you know, because you were, oh, you know, you, you, you You download it, but like now you have this VR shit coming out. Yeah. And I was like, that's one thing I won't fuck with. That's just, that's too. Because back of my day, you would go to a forest and you find paper.

You find, like, the magazine. Yeah. And I was like, wow. But, you know, there's still like a disconnect. You know, but the VR is just so, it's so in your face. And like the sound, it's just too much. We're like, I think this is too much. That's just like, no, no, no.

No, no. No, no. Thanks. Thanks. And we're here jacking off the paper and shapes and like, you know, whatever. But like, there is. Look at it. We would check off that.

Look at this booty, bro. Oh, man. That's like my favorite. When I was 13, I would check off to this. Squid your eyes and it looks like an ass. Yeah. Oh, my fuck. Probably pre 13, man.

Check out her first time to that. Waiting till also the load. Oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah. The page would load. Yeah. Just like above the naples would just. Stop, it.

Come on, man. Jeez, movies, dude. So we came all the way from Switzerland to talk about how we joined down. About to Minecraft. New Pilfeet single out right now. New album cover. Oh my goodness. Boy, that is a pretty new metal cover.

It is. Yeah. But guys, listen up, I need to pee so bad. It's a cool if I head out real quick. Because my, how's it called is so small. I need to be out. Let's uh... Let's wrap it up.

Should we? Already? Okay. Yeah. Okay. I didn't meant to end this whole shit. No, it was. I need to pee real quick.

No, but you guys are... I think Pale Face is a sick band. You guys are heavy as fuck. I'm honored to have hung out with you guys. Thank you so much. Thanks, thanks for you. I think you're adding something fresh and new to the genre. And, uh, yeah, I think you guys are fucking sick.

And it's really cool to see you guys, like, first time in the States. Are we playing sick out shows? Wow. Yes, yes, yes. Wow, dude. Yeah, look, that flyer is. That's insane. It is so cool.

Great, great lineup. I was talking out with the body standards right now, Andrew Maker. Great, great lineup, great bands. You know, I'm older, so it's like, it takes a lot for me to get inspired. And it would be like, oh, this is sick. But you guys, this is very inspiring to me. Thank you so much. That means a lot.

Yeah. So at this point, congratulations. to your album really yeah oh thank you yeah sure I jammed into it and you did already oh yeah okay i'm waiting for a long late night drive yeah no it still have to listen to here we go but still congratulations thank you can't wait to listen to it yeah just could jam just simple uh snippets i also waiting to yeah i'm like the whole album like i hate like i need to listen to that to a whole record like i need to listen but what i heard like takes me back yeah i feel like the first time i heard you guys it was like this new raw kind of yeah I'm just waiting until everyone just

copies whatever you do again oh wow so yeah appreciate that well what we we wouldn't be here without without fans like like you pushing the whole heavy music genre forward so thank you so where so what can people find you guys in the Swiss Alps yeah making some cars oh my goodness no it's it's it's easy. I guess we're by far the most active on Instagram. Let's be honest, Facebook and Twitter isn't a big thing in where we are from. So Instagram is the place to be for us. Paleface Swiss, Spotify, Apple Music, every where you want. Or on a stage in a city near you. I don't know, just keep an eye on our socials and we will tour a lot in the following years.

So if you're interested in watching us live, doing stupid stuff, catch us. Yeah. Well, hell yeah. Well, everyone, that's it. Thank you. Pillface, have you wrist up your ass. Thanks so much.

Thank you.