Garza Podcast - 85 - CROWN MAGNETAR: Tech Metal, Hot Topic & Staying in Shape on Tour

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Garza sits down with Colorado tech deathcore band Crown Magnetar. Check out their new album EVERYTHING BLEEDS out July 14th! https://www.linktr.ee/Crownmagnetar SPONSORS: Click this link to purchase from Sweetwater & help support the podcast: imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB CROWN MAGETAR is: Dan Tucker - Vocals Byron London - Drums Nick Burnett - Guitar Grant Robinson - Bass TIME STAMPS: 00:00 - Chaos & Carnage, Transportation Problems 05:40 - Keeping Up With Other Musicians On Tour 08:25 - New Album, Everything Bleeds/Art by Caelan Stokkermans 13:49 - Dan Inspired by Jack Kerouac, Starting Crown Megnetar 18:10 - Dan & Nick Meeting, Recording First Songs 20:44 - Developing Vocal Skills From Jazz Choir 23:22 - Byron & Grant Joining the Band 25:48 - Playing Shows Before Recording Music 26:20 - Origin of Band Name  27:44 - Moshing, Avoiding Injuries  29:55 - Garza & Crown Magnetar Meeting on Carnifex Tour 30:58 - Awkward Craigslist Auditions 34:29 - Early DIY Shows, Writing With the Live Performance in Mind 36:33 - Moving to Colorado From Nashville, TN 42:35 - Ken Bedene (Aborted Drummer) is Insane 45:19 - Bands That Influenced Crown Magnetar 48:55 - The Growth of Heavy Music & Deathcore 50:53 - Discovering Music at Hot Topic 55:00 - Relationship Problems, Inspiration for the Music 56:59 - Inspiration for Music & Lyrics 59:01 - Staying in Shape on Tour 01:05:30 - Everything Bleeds, out July 14th/Writing New Material

No, it's just, no, honestly, like, the music is great. It's got a charm to it. He gives it its flare. Yeah. How'd you track it? No, it was in a basement. Oh, it'd be better. And we, like, put up these, like, plywood boards as, like, the vocal booth.

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That we're just going to wake up in the morning at 9-20 and we start drinking beer. It's a cool life. Absolutely. You had to be kind of off to be doing this kind of life. But it's love. Love just for blast beats and breakdowns. For real.

It's sick. Well, dudes, it's an honor for me to have you guys here. Thank you for making a, drive. Absolutely. Thanks for having. Thank you. Yeah, we appreciate you.

Today we have Crown Magnetar. Heavy as fuck. Now my new friends, you know, I've been watching you guys. You guys were fucking sick.

Thank you, man. Tor has been kick ass so far. Been having a blast. Yeah. Looks like it. Yeah. It's been an absolute dream. Especially you.

Yeah. Do you ever listen to like, like you, like you get. get your EP or you get your record and you're like, how am I going to do this shit live? All the time, man.

I get it all the time. And there's always comments like, there's no way that guy's actually playing that live. So I'm used to it. It's got to show up and prove everyone wrong, you know. And that never goes away either. You're always kind of doing that, you know? No, absolutely.

It's like, you know, always, I've been telling my dudes, so, you know, one, one show at a time, one tour at a time. There's always proving people wrong, you know? Absolutely. It's kind of crazy. People will, like, show up or listen to you just to like, I want them to suck.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're constantly always trying to live up to either like a hype or something. But you do it, Byron. It's cool. I really appreciate that. You know, I was like, damn, he's playing it. And with a swag.

Thank you. It's the only way, you know. You got that fucking tech blast fucking this swag. It's cool. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Just so people can't. know where the voices are coming from.

That's what someone told me. Can we do a quick intro? Absolutely cool. I'm Dan, do vocals for Crown. My name's Byron. I play drums. My name is Nick. I play guitar.

I'm Grant. I play bass. Thanks, guys. Well, yeah, we're just saying that this is a crazy life and you guys had this. We were in Reading, PA. You guys, something, Grant, you were telling me something happened to you guys on the freeway. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it was in Connecticut. We thought we weren't going to make it to the show the next day, but we ended up making it. So it was all good. Yeah. We don't go into super deep detail on that. Nothing terrible happened. We got a little fender bender on the highway and ended up sitting on the side of the highway pretty much all night until like 8 a.m. But all was well-made to the show.

Yeah. It was pretty much it. It was a rough couple days. We didn't get sleep for about two days. Yeah. It was a little rough. Yeah. I'm sure you guys don't have to go.

into it would be out. It's kind of weird those images will just kind of stay with you. Oh yeah. Yeah. You're just driving along the middle of the night and then chaos? Yeah. Chaos and courage baby. Oh my goodness. Bam. But yeah, made to the show, ripped the show. Every, all as well. Shout out, U-Haul, roadside of systems, those guys turn around. Rock and roll. It's sketching when you're driving like every single night. Yeah. Throughout the night. Yeah. If you think about it, it's that it's so sketchy, It really is, you know, especially because like we don't have a driver or anything, so we're all just taking turn. So after, you know, two weeks of that shit, everyone's, you know, starts weighing on you a little bit, having to drive at 3 a.m.

But, uh, and we've all started to kind of cut the shifts down. We used to kind of all be psycho and drive like, you know, four hours apiece. And I were like, yeah, let's just kind of half it. And just everyone just kind of keep rotating just to make it a little safer. Yeah. So. And then you're trying to make, you know, days like today, you're trying to be on time. Yeah.

Sometimes sometimes you got it speed. We were, too, we were speeding here. Speed every day, bro. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to our driver, Rolling Cloud to try to get us here, get me here on time. Like, damn, it's like, it's so sketchy.

Because you're driving around other people. Just on the highway constantly. The highway. Bound, bound something to happen. That's usually the case. It's never you. It's other people a lot of the time. Totally.

So, it's got to be careful. I always said to, I always like, dude, you got to look at, you know, behind you, got to look at front of you. Like, we said, because it's not about you sometimes, about, you know, I'm always kind of planning someone else's big fuck up. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, someone will cut your walk. Like, whoa, good thing else focus right there, baby. Yeah. You know? Just put that bitch on 63 miles an hour and stay in the right lane. Just grandma drive it. That's what I do.

Same, I do. I can't do the cruise control thing. I get too, like, I get too. Comfortable? Yeah. I don't know. No, I just get too, like, I like my feet to be like. Keeps you in the zone.

It keeps you in the zone. It keeps me aware. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Byron. How do you feel? I'm curious how you feel about this particular run because every tour kind of has like its own thing like last year was like that was like the singer tour you had you know Eddie and Scott and and Will

this is like this is like the drummer. Oh man. Where everyone's just ripping. Yeah. How do you feel about that? It's honestly it's very intimidating especially because I feel like for a lot I kind of started playing drums late in my life so I feel like I'm trying to play catch up a little. little bit. 18, right? Yeah. So it's like, especially because I've watched dudes like Trey and Ken for so long. I mean, since I was in like middle school, I've been watching those

guys drum on YouTube and stuff. We used to, me and him, when we used to live in our first apartment together, we're just like watched like Ken Benin when we were just bored and smoking weed and stuff, you know what I mean? So it's really been cool to be out on the road with him and watch him every night because I always make sure I go and watch him play and especially Trey and all that. It's a little intimidating, but I'm trying. Yeah. Yeah. We're all the trying dude everyone's just trying and hopefully no one finds out that I'm a freaking fraud

yeah you know years later but Byron you you're you're fucking doing it man you are you are holding your own and that's something to be very proud of thank you so much you know it's cool it's like this you know it's like this healthy

you know feeling mindset like you're always you always you always don't feel adequate or enough yeah it's it's a I think it's a very normal human emotion yeah Because those guys, they're like gods to me in the drum world. So it's like, if I think I have a good set and then I go and watch them, I'm like, ah, shit.

They're just, yeah, they're just, they're so good. But it's a, it's a really good motivation because when I get home, all I want to do is practice and be able to just try to get to the level that I think they're at. That's what's really cool about, you know, about what's going on right now. You know, band's like, you know, crown. I hear you guys and now I've been watching guys, like you're just saying, like, it's, it's very, motivating to like I need to go home and practice

because you know I see you know Nick ripping up there he has an A string and actually doing shit with it I'm like man I ain't like go home I get I get the click out and I fucking start just practicing it's it's really cool to be around this like the this high caliber of talent

you know it just makes you want to this practice and you guys do that you guys do it for for for for me you know thank you for you guys are sick so you know I want to be sick too yeah yeah Yeah.

You know? I think especially after like COVID and shit, so many bands like concentrated on like writing music during that period of time that after like touring and stuff came back, there were so many bands like going at it so hard. And like a bunch of great records came out during that time. That kind of like just amped all that up too. Dude, this video is fucking sick.

Oh, sorry, if you're listening, we're watching the latest video. It's fucking badass. Level beneath. Go check that shit out. Just came out, dude. come out three days just a couple days ago do uh how much exactly sure when it's coming out but new records coming out uh july 14th everything bleeds what a sick title dude it's so hard to get two

simple words and put them back to back yeah it's so hard i got you guys hit it congrats thank you man yeah yeah i had like a long list of titles too that we were kind of like bouncing back and forth on and that was one of the ones from like the beginning that was always there and i kind of like had it on the back burner but like one day it just like i was like going through some shit reading it over it just like clicked in my brain I was like this has to be it yeah it's just like I was in love with it caps in caps was like the whole vibe of the record and it's just like super piss sounding so yeah I'm glad it worked out and you guys are very good at really getting like a whole concept together like like like your artwork especially for uh hey jac can you pull up the artwork like the way like

every little detail kind of like alliance with like with each other that one what the fuck is going on there what is going on so that was created by caylin's Stokerman. Yeah. He's amazing. God tier. He's done. I think I last three records.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We just try to like cultivate a vibe with the artwork and the music versus having like super thematically like laid out record. Like songs are like episodic or like connected. Everything's pretty individualized. One thing that's super cool about the logo, the artwork.

His left foot down there you can see that black lotus that he's dripping the blood onto. It's kind of like an Easter egg. Going back to the first release. But yeah, dude's an amazing artist. We like to do like the painted style of shit. So he just like crushes it every time. How did you find this artist?

Honestly, he's done a, he's just been around for a minute now. He's done like a Casey's Tram Warner Shore and Penny and D.M. I saw. Yeah, yeah. He's done a bunch. And like I said, he just does that like, not quite Victorian-esque, but that really like painted oil painting kind of style. and we just like really like that so he just crushes it every time

he's great to work with two great guy yeah hey jay pull up uh yeah pull up uh go go go go down so this is your first record down down case your friend looks fucking sick down down a fine uh keep going this one that one yeah it's the codex yep so those are all

focused right yeah sir my gosh you look at that shit yeah it's got like a little bit of uh you know I guess a little bit of the Lord of the Rings influence in there, but it's supposed to be just, you know, kind of a wasteland kind of vibe. But yeah, that might be my favorite one he's ever done. Honestly, it's so hard to choose, but dude just crushes it. Hey, Jay, go down.

I want to check out the other layout, which is what, actually, no, click, actually click on it. Boom. The layout. Okay, go down, Jay, Jay, then pull up. Boom Click it on the yeah there you go It's cool how it looks like scripture

And like like old paper He does all those illustrations like four to And I was reading the lyrics to To black a lotus right And I really love how like that You have like the lotus there I'm like it's just like a very detailed And then my second thought was

Dan writes a lot of lyrics Thanks me yeah Do you do it on purpose? I mean honestly that's just kind of how it floats comes out like when I write lyrics like I said we don't really try to do anything like super that shit's sick like thematic as far as like um like an encompassing theme for the record like a lot of the lyrics are kind of just like dark poetry vibes that like um you know it can be really subjective to the listeners you can kind of put yourself into the lyrics and take away your

own meaning from it yeah um yeah like our lyrics like a lot of it is just really raw i don't usually write the lyrics to the music or anything like that really it all kind of is either before, after, and I kind of just, you know, piece it together as we're going kind of thing. But, yeah, I just try to, like, put a lot of, like, raw emotion into it. There's a couple of songs in a new record that are a little different as far as that. A couple of them are a little more, like, you know, story stuff based on kind of, like, life stuff. So a little more specific as far as that goes. But overall, it's kind of just like a hateful, pissed-off poetry kind of vibe, man.

Well, it works the best for what we do, so. Yeah, exactly. It kind of ends up that way, you know. Yeah, and I've, since we've been doing this, like, I've put a lot of effort into that because, you know, I want to stick out, like, in that part of things a lot, too, not just have generic sounding, whatever. So I'm really, really proud and stoked of all the lyrics that we have. So, like, yeah, your process is interesting because sometimes you don't write to the music. So what you already have something written that you did in, like, prior to even hearing the music, then maybe you kind of piece, you kind of piece together. Pretty much, yeah.

Like, a lot of times if I, like, want to write lyrics, I'll just write, start writing, you know. I won't, like, put on our demos or anything and, like, go along to them. I'll just kind of start going until, like, get a vibe, something I'm stoked on, and it just kind of, like, ignites shit, starts rolling, I guess. Sick. Yeah. And, Dan, you were, you were born in Maine, right? Central Maine, baby, Heartland, Maine. What was that like?

Dude, it's been, like, a total 180 from, like, my childhood to, like, where I am now. Like the town I grew up in was like 500 people 500 people Yeah, we lived in the woods My high school was like a regional high school So there was like 20 towns That made up the high school So they're just trying to

You know, get as many people there Even though there's like 200 people there But yeah, yeah I always wanted to be in bands But there was no scene really where I grew up Because there's no bands there really So after I got done with high school I wanted to just go after that really hard

So I moved out to Colorado kind of on a whim. Met old Nick here on Craigslist. That's sick of fun. Yeah. On the 2013, I guess, something like that. And then we just started a crappy death corps band, played local shows.

That's how we met Byron. And that's kind of like the genesis of Crown, basically. But, yeah, it's definitely like a total different thing, like growing up in Maine and then living in Denver and meeting these guys and then just getting sucked into the touring world. It's been super surreal, honestly. That is very surreal. dude yeah like going that that's a big move going from main to denver yeah yeah just because what was it was it

music motivated or what honestly like i've always like just thought denver was cool i had like um had like a little bit of cash after i've grabbed after high school and i uh just got in my honda and drove started driving had a little tent just camped out i went to warp tour in denver that year and i was like i'm just going to stay here and uh well yeah that was that was that was that that's a very like 10 12 years ago almost yeah that is dedication right there thanks man yeah we're just talking how we're all

degenerates that's like you know I'm gonna pack up my Honda and I'm going yeah you know yeah man I mean growing up in a little town I guess there's not much to do there unless you want to like start a concrete business or labor stuff that's like a big industry around there so I mean not that there's anything wrong with that but I just had to get out of Dodge when I was

when I grew up just had to get out of there try to experience more. Dude, it's great. I mean, dude, not many humans do you have that part in their brain. It's just going to shut it off and just go. Yeah. Not a lot of people have that, man. It's very special quality, man.

Thank you, man. Yeah. And I'll touch on it quickly. Like, when I was a, I did an author study when I was a senior in high school and it was a Jack Kerouac. And whoever's not familiar with him, he's like a 50s, like, poet guy. He has this book called On the Road and it's about him just hitchhiking across America. like all these fucked up poems and shit he has and I thought that just was like so cool and

you know just like a crazy thing to do when I was a kid reading that so I was like when I like can I'm just going to piece out and just like drive around and see what the fuck happens whoa yeah it's crazy you just read like one book and it will it will change your life yeah 100% quality to it that would just change the course of your entire life yeah something that will cost probably what like 10 bucks oh yeah I still have that book too Really? Yeah. You ever, like, go back and, like, reread it and get a whole different meaning from it?

I flip through it every now and then. Actually, it was reading through it before we went on tour. How was that? It was cool, man. It's, like, it's weird, like, it's, like, nostalgic, like, reading through it now. Because when I was, when I first read it, I was, like, I don't know, 16 or some shit. And, uh, yeah, I don't know, it's just super cool to reflect on, like, what a book, like, what a book, like, did to my mindset. So.

On the road. Yeah. How do you say his name again? Jack Kerouac. Okay. Yeah. Shout out to my sister. Dang.

So this was a recommendation. Yeah. Yeah. My sister was super into this like avant-garde poetry shit when she was in high school and she was all into like musicals and stuff like that. And yeah, it's like a big part of my childhood too. Such a cool cover too. It's like a black and white. Yeah.

And you see two people driving. That's cool, man. Yeah, man. I mean, that was like in the 50s, 60s. they were just partying, traveling, doing LSD, just being degenerate. Being degenerates. Yeah. That's sick.

One of the time. I want to do that. Yeah. I'm going to fucking do that. And then I'm just just out of curiosity like what, who was buying what from who when you met Nick? And what was it? What was it an amp or something?

Like what? So Nick just had an add out for a vocalist. Oh, yeah. And I called him. I called him. He was like, yeah. I like, show me your vocals. And I was like, I'm driving right now.

And he was like, yeah, like, go. He just like sends like a video. This is like of him doing like some Echia Strain song or something like that. And I was just like, we have three other emails, but this is the guy. So yeah. Then he just like drives up to like four Collins where I was living at the time. And we just like start like putting together death core demos. And we like record in the absolute worst way possible.

Of course. It's my favorite record at least day. Yeah. with the planet's on it. Is this public or no? It is, but we won't put it out. It's not making it of it.

No, it's out there. It's out there? Yeah. If you can find it, like, kudos, but yeah.

It's just like a secret, like, it's just like a secret link. It's on YouTube and shit. It's on YouTube? I try to find it. It's sick. If Byron says he loves it,

there's, wait, you said you love it, but you like, it sucks or what? No, it's just, no,

Honestly, like, the music is great. It's got a charm to it. Like, what he was saying, it was just, you know, because no one knew what they were doing at the time. Just recorded the worst way possible. But that's what, you know, he gives it its flare. Yeah. Yeah.

How'd you track it? Any kitchen? No, it was in a basement. Oh, I mean, that'd be, cool. And we, like, put up these, like, plywood boards as, like, the vocal booth. And it's, like, hung it from the ceiling. And, yeah, then we, like, tracked it in logic, and we mastered it ourselves.

and, you know, that gives it a certain quality. That's great. Not the best quality, but yeah. No, it's so, there's like a certain charm to anything early, as far as, especially this kind of genre, and then now it's like a big umbrella, like the death cord, like genre. It's like, there's a certain charm to, like, the first EP or the demo. Yeah.

It's just something to them, you know? So I got to find it. Yeah. We'll show you after. Yeah, yeah. We'll give you the name after. That was my, that was the first band I was ever in when I met, Nick too so really it was crazy to like we did that for like a year and then we were playing just locally

that's how we met Byron and uh yeah it's it's crazy how that just you know became crown because that was the first fucking band I ever was in I had no experience in bands until I met Nick and then had to learn fast yeah yeah it's that's kind of a commonality with like singers huh like you don't really know that you can sing but you just kind of just go into a band and then okay I guess I'm screaming now yeah yeah and I uh look at Luckily, I had some experience, because I did, like, I did, like, jazz choir and shit all through school when I was a kid. So I could, like, sing and shit, but I never had done any performance, like, with a band or anything. So it was totally new world to start, you know, stepping into that.

Jazz choir. What did you learn in jazz choir? Nothing. Yeah, not much, like, theory or anything like that. You know, it was like, there was, like, I think there was, like, 10 people, you know, just, like, tenor-based, um, supremac. No Alto, just like, it was pretty chill. We didn't really learn much about theory or anything like that. You know, we just did, we just do, you know, different arrangements of songs and perform for the school and shit.

Did you, have you taken anything from that and put it in into crown at all? 100%. I mean, like, as far as like vocal stuff, like one of the, I always tell people, like, if you're trying to like get better of vocals, one of the best things to like be good at is breath control. So, like, you can learn that from singing 100%. because that's super important for like, you know, vocal stamina and just all that. So I definitely like had a lot of like head start, I guess, from that for sure. Yeah, nice.

I mean, jazz choir, those two were worse to scare me. Yeah, man. Jazz and choir. Yeah. You didn't want in one class. It's sick. Yeah, it was awesome. It was a good time.

I had a lot of fun doing that. So was it, wait, so you were driving and there was a FaceTime call? What was this? It was just like a self-recorded video. Oh, okay. Like a selfie video. They were just calling that I had a lot of fun. up on him and just took a video and texted

to him, I think. And now we're here. Yeah. In California from a fucking shitty video, right? On the car's a podcast. Yeah, sick. I've had this conversation a few times with people like sometimes there's an instance where you had to do a

tryout and they wanted to do like this super professional filmed or miced up and like they didn't take too long, but like there's something to show someone like your raw talent. Show like show who you are. There's something to mask it. There's something to masculine we have a fucking this boomed it's how it sounds

yeah so you have to actually be be good just driving with the highway noise in the back and shit gone of the days man like everyone's doing professional videos for tryouts now but like I think the real talent is like someone who can just like bust it out on their phone exactly one take that

shit yeah one what is it a one takeer yeah yeah yeah yeah you're like oh this is the guy this is a guy that I'm gonna marry right yeah basically and then you guys started playing shows and that's how Byron comes in the picture, right?

Yeah. Nice. Yeah, it was just I think we had played, there was this really small venue called the Flux Capacitor, and it was in the Colorado Springs. It's like a warehouse, concrete room. Sick. And basically, just had played one show with them one time, and we just all became

friends, and then it kind of just went from there. Nice. Ended up getting these guys in Crown, and then, yeah, we've just been doing it ever since. So, obviously, so the band's face had a of Colorado Springs. Colorado Springs. So yeah, so I'm talking like black sheep, I'm sure you guys.

Yeah, that's like our hometown. That's the spot. That's where we filmed the new music video. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Nice.

They're all family over there. Yep. And how did you come in a picture, Grant? So I've been playing bass for ever since high school. And so, you know, I was playing in bands and whatnot, just locally. And so when I joined my first touring band, the last tour that that band ever did is when I met Byron. And so I pretty much just walked up to him one day because I was a huge fan of the first EP. So when I discovered that, I was like, serious.

That's like, that's what I want to do. So when I found out he was the drummer of this band, I pretty much was like, if you ever need a bass player, let me know. He was just like, okay. That was it. He just hits me up like two weeks. He was a ripper. I was watching him every night. I was like, well, that guy, he's a fan.

I mean, I met him with a crown magnet, our shirt on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I was like, well, I feel like he'd be great. Yeah, yeah. The first night, the first time I met Grant when you flew out, when we were doing, like, videos for the first time. We went to get dinner that night, and we were driving in the car. I put on, I was just, my phone was on shuffle,

and one of our songs from the first EP, The Prophet, came on. He just started reciting all the lyrics. Like, and I was like, dude, what the fuck? You know this shit that while? Yeah, it was like, that's, that's, sick. I don't know. I saw the vision for it, and I was like, I want to hop on that, you know.

And, you know, they kind of just welcomed me with open arms and still do. And it's been a blast. And now you guys are my family. Absolutely. Yeah, it was all crazy. I was almost coming up on four years. Oh, wow. It doesn't even feel like it.

Yeah, straight up. Yeah. Yeah, because you guys were already playing shows for two to three years before you even, like, recorded anything, huh? Yeah, yeah, we were just kind of like, you know, playing, you know, just doing like the typical local band stuff, like you're not even recording music, you're just there, because I just wanted to play shows, you know, I wasn't really trying to do anything with it at the time until I found these guys.

And then once I found them, it was like, let's try to do it for real, you know, let's actually go put a bunch of money up and go actually do like a good EP that sounds good, you know what I mean, do music videos, just stuff like that. Interesting. Yeah. Oh, shit. Well, I could, I couldn't find anything because, There's a, there's a, I hear three ways to say you're banning.

I'm sorry. So I'll, it's, it's normal. I was looking and I thought I came between Crown Magnetor and Crown Magnetar. So I just shot, shot, you know, I was like, I couldn't find it. I found both ways. Yeah. The official pronunciation, Crown Magnetar. Is it?

Yep, 100%. Also, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so it's, I had it right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so what, what do you say? so that's kind of been my issue is I say it both ways it's just whatever okay I've I've had the name for so long like I came up with it when I was 18 oh so he came up with the band name yeah this is like my little brain child and then I got you know everyone else so yeah he was a crown was like a band for like a year at the same time when me me and me and nick

met and they were kind of locally playing and we were kind of locally playing and we kind of just became homies from doing that um it's pretty funny actually I have a video on my phone from like the first or second show that Nick and I played with the then lineup of Crown when Byron was in it and there's like a video of us playing in this like a basement. Byron's like on the side like dancing around and shit before we even knew him. Back when you know, used to Mosh. Don't be doing that anymore. No, no. Been a long time. I'm Mosh last year. It was sick. I did too when I jacked my elbow up. It was at the end of the We were like, it's the last day.

Let's go do it. The drinks were flowing. And it took 10 freaking seconds, and I bring my elbow was massive. I don't know what happened. I hit someone or something, you know. We pushed around? Or were you just pushing? Unfortunately, like, I, I, I.

This is a windmill. Yeah. I did crowd. I'm that asshole, I guess. But that's why I don't do it. You know, it's been a long time, but I thought, hey, you know, why not? No. See, when the drinks are flowing, okay, you know, I'll go in a pit for D's side.

You do the critical push. someone will hit you kind of weird okay I'm done yeah but you were crowd washing yeah and it took I'm not even kidding 10 seconds and I was like hey I'm done this is why I don't do this plus as a drummer I can't be you know breaking my arm or something I see about drummers you need every like limb every

you need everything oh yeah I'm always like don't pick that up because I'm afraid you like snap in your finger something yeah I'll grab that yeah fucking dumbass Ernie he fucking tripped over a bro block oh he was telling me about that man it's brutal yeah We have to drop off Asia because he's an idiot. Yeah, you need every, you roll an ankle, you're fucked. I mean, you even break a little, like your pinky or something, screwed, you know.

Oh, I just take it up. Especially for, like, for you, like, for you, Byron, like, I mean, actually, all you guys, you guys are fucking ripping. Like, like, your technicality is so advanced and up there. You really, everything kind of needs to be working. Absolutely. Like, pinky one finger. I mean, I could fake it, you know, but one one finger. I can pretty play every SS song

But you guys need like You guys are very You guys have riffs Yeah I think that would be The last time I ever Mosh Was what I was just talking about Because I don't really need to be doing that anymore The reason I don't in the first place really

Well definitely don't crowd Mosh Yeah I know I know How old are you? 28 20 You got a couple of years left Oh

I got a couple years And when was this When I heard kind of Six months ago Yes Oh my months ago. Yeah, I know, I know. Like I said, I'm going to blame the alcohol on that one. It was the last day of tour. It's actually the day we met you. It was in Pomona.

Was it really? Yeah. Oh, shit. I remember that. Yeah. Was that the last day? That was, yep. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was you guys and left the supper. Yep. It was sick. The boys. Yeah. That was an awesome tour. I said, man, these guys are fucking sick. I got, I got to go meet them. It's where that shit turns out, huh? I mean, we're just talking outside of Pomona. Now I'm, now, now, now right here. On tour together. Love it.

Keloar together. That was that, was that last year? No. October? October. Yeah, so it was last year. Man, these, dude, these weeks of monster just flying by, and I don't know how to slow him down. Faster and faster.

It feels like I just couldn't met you guys. Wow. And that was with, oh, wait. Yeah, it was Oceano. Yeah, it was Oceano. Yeah, it was Karnifex. Dead of my arms, 15 years. year anniversary.

Yeah, that one right there. How was that for you guys? It was sick. It was a blast. Sick to be on a tour where Carnifix is playing one of their OG records every night. Yeah.

So it was awesome. What a trip for you, Dan, like to go from Maine and now you're just from reading a book. Yeah, man. And now driving over to, like, to Denver. Yeah.

Now this is what you're fucking doing, man. I always think about the, all the little things that had to have happened, like, me deciding to like, me, like, reading that book. or me like decided to move to Denver of all the places I could have gone. Yeah.

Me happening to go on Craigslist that day to see Nick's ad. Like, weird. So many little things, like had to fall into place. And it just happened, I guess. It's the butterfly effect.

Yeah, it's like this unexplainable, like, okay, I'm just gonna go on Craigslist. It was like, unexplainable, like,

oh yeah. It's weird. I was on there for a couple weeks. And I went to some, like, really cringy, awful tryouts. And at one point I was like,

I want to try to be in a band, like dance cabin dance i was like i love that band but um nice got up yeah but um yeah that didn't work out so then yeah i eventually found nick and then all that shit started but craigslist baby yeah it's it's uh it's it wasn't on the personals section either it was on the musicians section was it to be honest i didn't even know that that that was even a section just to be clear yeah no one really uses the craigslist anymore so like you know that was like a 2013 it's because the personal thing got to taken down.

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Bummer. Really? I guess. What? I think that, I don't know. I don't actually...

I know you have to pay for ads now. Yeah. Like, if you want to use Craigslist now, you have to, like, pay for it. Oh. Yeah. Back in the day, you can just, like, throw up an ad and be like, hey, who's interested in, you know, whatever? My free couch or, you know, whatever.

But nowadays, you have to, like, pay, like, $15.20. Do you guys... You guys want this fucking ban? It's, like, 95% of this... 99% of what's on. That dude looks legit, though. So did you have the shuffle? Do you all the crap and they get like, okay, wait, this guy actually seems serious?

Oh, yeah, man. I hit up a bunch of people before I had found a Nick. Really? I went to, like, this one tryout in these dudes garage. And they, like, there was like 10 people there and their girlfriends. And they were just like, all right, do locals. Oh, wow. That was, that was been terrifying.

It was. It was all. I didn't, you know. It was literally within like two minutes of arriving there. They were like, all right, go for it. It was like, just like, acopella, no microphone just in front of a lot. Oh, man. That's brutal.

I was like, I'm not going to do this. Let's like, you guys want to jam all like, we can fuck around a little bit, but. Welcome to the dream, dude. Yeah. That would make me shit my pants. Yeah, I was, yeah, I can't believe I did that shit. But got me to hear, so I guess, you know, got to do the dirty work before. Dude, the dirty work is what fucking gets you here, man.

Yeah. It's just, wow. Yeah. It's okay. It's like, those are actually like some conscious tests. Okay, you know, how bad do I want to do this? Yeah. You know, it's like, oh, my.

goodness i can imagine that yeah it was awful dude oh god it's like it's like playing in front of like a couple people for some reason that's like more nervous oh yeah it's like when it's too intimate it's like i've always noticed that staring right into your eyes less people less people more stressful totally absolutely yeah why why is that i don't know i think when there's lots of people and everyone's vibing the energy is like good it's like yeah so easy but when there's like less people just standing there staring at you just get weird yeah it's so weird I don't what like what it is people are just people you see out there the more unimpressed that you think that they are yeah well for me at least I don't know yeah we did the DIY thing for like two years

just doing no shot tours self-book shit so yeah we played many a show with like five 10 people there just yeah dude staring at us not moving or playing tech death Damn. They're like saying, that bass player is sick. They'll stand there not talking the whole time, and then after you're done, they're like, you're so sick.

You're like, are you sure? Do you enjoy it? Do you really believe that? Yeah, I've always had the conversation with my guys. You don't really know what someone's thinking when they're watching you. You know, like they could be having an amazing time, but they genuinely just want to, you know, sit back or stand and watch.

Yeah. You know, my guys are like, they weren't moving i'm like some people just want to stand there some people don't want some people aren't 28 and wanting to start crop watching you know they want to you know they want to you know they want to you know i mean i definitely do that now sometimes i was like to sit back and watch do nothing sometimes other times i want to get drunk and headbang yeah it's like a weird you know but you guys are like also you i does your band fall in the category of like since you're like on like the like technical aspect side.

Like people are more actually watching what your planes. I mean, that adds a little more pressure. I mean, yeah, to a degree, but that's kind of what I felt like we did better on the newer record was to make it kind of like less chaotic because I've noticed like when I go back and watch our live videos

that even when I'm watching it, maybe a little stoned or something, I'm like, wow, this is really, really fast, you know? And I could see why, you know, you're not going to be necessarily push-moshing or anything like that until the breakdowns happen. So that's why I'm really pumped about the new record.

It's a lot more like, I think, universally appealing in that regard. You guys, so you guys are all stoked on it? Absolutely. Very stoked. Yeah. So how do you guys write songs now? Because now, when, when exactly did you come in? It was 2019.

This was actually kind of right before the pandemic. Right before we did codex? Yeah, it was. So I got a call from Byron. He was like, if you're still interested, we pretty much have a album, like, kind of skeletoned out. If you want to come help us finish writing it, get a plane ticket, and come on.

So I was like, yeah, I'm down. So I pretty much flew out there, hung out in his basement for like a week. The writing zone. Yep. And I don't know. We just kind of got down, started listening to a lot of death metal, death core and just like this is what influences me oh this is you know so we just kind of just kept shooting the shit and pretty much just busted it out and uh so that was pretty much my entry

into the band um so you got you got thrown in pretty much yeah that's that's that's my style that's yeah that's how i like it i like to be just thrown in where's you're playing from uh nashville tennessee is that uh uh is that where you're from yep born and raised born and raised Nashville so you see it go through so many changes oh Oh, absolutely. My goodness, dude. I was actually raised in a spot called Hendersonville, Tennessee. So it's about like a half hour from like, you know, the big city.

Sure. But I say Nashville, though. Of course. Yeah, it's crazy. It's like I can't even go downtown anymore. It's weird. It's just like. Really?

It's just, it's so chaotic. How has it changed from being like an insider? It's just. nobody's from there anymore. So, you know, when people ask me, like, you know, when I live there, people were like, where are you from? You know, I'd be like Nashville, Tennessee, and they're like, bullshit. And I'm like, no, I swear, they're like, you're a unicorn, you know?

And then just like, how are you not like, cowboy hat and cowboy boots? And I'm like, probably because I was born and raised here and I've seen it. So, yeah, I've watched to go through a bunch of changes. just a lot of transplants. But, I mean, that's good. It's growing, so. Yeah. It'll always be home.

Always be home, huh? Absolutely. And you live in Colorado now? Yeah, I actually just moved to Denver. Like a week before tour. Literally. Really? Yeah.

Oh, shit. Yeah, we were up there moving them in. Yep. That's a crazy schedule. I had to force these guys to move a sectional couch in. It was great. Like two in the morning. Something like that, yeah.

It was crazy. You drove like a 20-foot U-Haul. yeah it was like took two days technically because stayed at a you know stayed at hotels and stuff on the way because driving you know just start to hallucinate and stuff so oh totally yeah so i just called him and i was like yo i need help come on so they were uh kind enough to help me out so dude driving tired is the worst yeah yeah shit shit gets sketchy oh absolutely i always think back like damn like how do i don't like at home.

Like, uh, I feel like someone else is like, uh, in front of, like a spiritual. Like, like someone else is watching sometimes.

Sometimes you like, you do like the fucking, oh shit. I'm fucking full of sleep. Right. For a point, driving tired is, it's nuts,

but it's like those little weird things you kind of sign up for, you know, oh shit, well I got to drive this fucking you haul. Yeah. You ever do that word thing when you like, go through a light and then you're,

once you pass it, you're like, was that even green? Because you're just like, you're just like so tired. Like, yeah, In the middle of the night, I've had that happen.

My favorite is going through, like, you know, you put on a full album. You're like, all right, this is going to get me through the drive. You listen to song one, you get to, like, song two. And then in, like, the snap of a finger, you're a song eight. And you're like, I need to pull over or something. Like, it's getting weird, you know. Yeah, that fucking primal, like, autopilot kicks in. Absolutely.

That part of, like, the human psyche always freaks me out. Like, damn, you just go to out. Your natural state is just autopilot with anything. Yeah. You know, it's like, damn, how do I, how did I get to Denver? My gosh. Yeah. It's a blur.

Big blur. So you're in Denver. Yeah. Right? And, uh, Dan? Yeah, we're all in Colorado Springs. Okay. Yeah.

Sick. Wait, you? Uh, no, I live downtown Denver. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sick. You're like, you know what, I'm going from Nashville to downtown Denver.

Yep. I'm going to, you know, I'm in. crown, I'm going to live the life, dude. Absolutely. That's it, you fuck yeah. I mean, shit what that? We're in 2000, well, we're in 2023. So what, you, so like, you obviously put time into your thoughts.

Like, okay, like, am I going to move down there? Am I going to? Yeah. So I've just been traveling, you know, to do, like, promotional stuff, like, from Nashville to Colorado, like, for music videos, all that good stuff. And, you know, we talked about it when I joined. I was like, man, if this starts taking off, I'm moving here, you know, and just it's taken off. So, yeah, it was just time, you know.

Timing. Yeah, I've been in Nashville my whole life, so it's like, all right, I got to get out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Time for a change. Absolutely. And you guys have taken some big steps from just the time I saw you last to this tour, seeing there in, well, here, it's from California now in Pomona.

and then seeing you out there on this front. My damn, you guys are stepped up. It's cool. You know, it's a special time. You know, I, that always fire, that shit fires me up, dude. I'm around, I'm around talent all the time. You know, you guys, you know, like, shit, I'm, I'm going to be able to see here. Like, I got home to practice.

You know, Slay Squad, you guys, aborted. Jeez, my, we. Doesn't it make you want to quit? Yeah. Watching aborted every night. Those guys are insanely talented. It's ridiculous. Ken has the one that's sick of blast beats probably around.

I mean, probably, you know, what you're talking? Oh, my goodness. He's unreal. Dude, you think about Trey from Dian Fetus and Ken on the same tour, it's kind of, that's a lot. Yeah, especially for me. I was like, oh, goodness. I kind of try to play in front of these dudes every night. It's a little intimidating.

And when you hear, like, a, wow, that Ken's about to fucking rip, dude. Yeah. Yeah. That video in particular. Wait for the foot cam. this video a thousand times oh my gosh this one in the Bloodstock live video they have

oh my goodness but you know it's hilarious is now he just is doing that in Crocs every night that's the joke he's in Crocs yeah he's just ripping the fastest swivel in the freaking world from Crocs how do you get to

this level of drumming are you just fucking practicing all day you're not you're not even jacking off at this point I mean I've watched interviews with him and he claims like he just doesn't even really practice that much. So I don't know if that's nowadays or he used to a lot back in the day, but you won't talk about someone that's got it. Oh my, look at the fucking feet.

Jeez. Yeah, Ken is unreal. And he's so humble too, you know. He is. He's definitely a fucking sweetheart, dude. He's a really good guy. Oh, my. Well, Byron, you'd be better do something, dude.

I'm trying. I don't even play drums and I'm fucking nervous. Yeah. It's very intimidating. And he's done four records with the board. added his own thing. A board is consistent and more a lot than ever.

And Sven, dude, I think he's the OG of this run. Like, Abord has been around since 95 and dude's been doing it. He's been around for a long time and he's just always around.

He watches everybody's sound check. He watches all the bands every day. Yeah. If I go inside, there's one person I know for sure I'm going to see watching the bands and it's Finn. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. He fucking loves what, he loves his music, man. Dude's a lifer. That is what you call a lifer, dude. Literally. Man, Gorman God, I don't know what. He's a badass, dude. His energy on stage is unreal, too.

Yeah. Smacking his own face. I feel like there's not a single person in metal that has the voice that he does, too. Like, you can hear that, and you would know it's him every time. He has the personality. Sven, shout out, dude.

guys like that love you son yeah love you man they're awesome dudes man great guys so you guys are obviously insane

you what like uh what bands were you guys jamming that really made you want to use something like this I mean it's a long list yeah I mean

I know for the for all four of us there's like a few specific records yeah they're older ones but they were like the ones that wanted us to just one really like motivated us

to make like the crazy fast, just super in your face death core. Definitely God delusion, Night in Texas, and Human Hive, Boris Blade. I haven't heard of any of those. Oh, dude. Australians, man. Yeah.

So, Boris the Blade. Oh, Boris the Blade. Yeah. Yeah. Human Hive is the record and the God delusion by Night in Texas. God delusion. That's a sick guy.

That's a sick guy. Yeah. Yeah, that's like our holy body. for that you know really fast and then just into crazy breakdown style because really those those two records just that's what it is from the beginning to then yeah we really just wanted to like have that shit that's just like going constantly in your face you know just like no reprieve or anything like that so two big influences for us for sure absolutely where's god so god delusion is from Texas night a night in Texas or

night in Texas they're from Australia yeah the album's called the god delusion Oh, okay. Yeah. I see it around online a lot that we sound like an Australian deathcore band, and I'm starting to see why, because a lot of our influences are from Australia. Interesting. I remember when I joined, I was like,

because I'm very much into, like, early Thy Art is Murder. So, like, the adversary and stuff. Yeah. So I was like, that's what you guys sound like. But, you know, obviously it's its own thing. That's definitely a big one for us, too. Yeah. Thy art.

Huge one for you. personally for sure at that art you they're fucking sick they have their own sound dude if you listen to like the early thyroid like damn dude holy shit i just saw that uh that hate that hate tour they just did a hate across america where they played hate front to back saw it like in february it's just insane same yeah it was dope yeah it felt good yeah they're just so tight i want i wanted to see klobicon but i missed them they're incredible yeah Yeah, they're sick as fuck. That new song they put out is so sick.

It's sick? It's so sick, yeah. You never forget when you see them live the first time. How new is it? Came out the same day as our single issue. Yeah, because people were commenting like, this and New Kublai Khan, so it's like, well, I have to check it now.

I didn't know. This Andy Marsh is fucking ripping, dude. Yeah. Yeah, they had that sound too where you'll listen to like, you know, like their demo or EP has that charm. Yeah. And they'll, I'm about the same. say it, fuck it, it has that death core charm.

Yep. You know, that early, it's like, there's a certain sound. You just can't, like, you can't replicate it. You know, it just has that, like, it's like a, a stamp in time. Yeah. You know, they, they, they have it. Shout out, man, they're, they're definitely OGs now.

It's crazy how far the genre has gone. I always say it, but goddamn. Yeah. It's insane how far it's all coming out. I mean, how many six bands are out now, you know? To me so, so, the genre's, huge right now, I feel like, like, heavy music in general. It's like, I mean, probably the biggest

it's ever been right now, I think. Absolutely. All the sick bands going. What do you guys see going? I mean, hopefully it can just keep going more and more like getting into mainstream, you know, just like the more people that know about blast beats and breakdowns that's just going to further the whole genre. And like, I think one thing that's really cool is like a lot of the older OG bands are like you guys for example like just going so strong right now via art carnifex you know doing all those like

those tours for their old records it's just like re-hyping everything bringing out like people from that era a little bit more too so yeah so that's uh yeah because you guys are I'm trying to date you but you're like you know you're younger I'm older it's weird

it's weird it's weird being older head banging and um so you guys see it going more to like a main stream out is that is that is that is that what you're saying well i guess i just think that like the more people that are exposed to it the better i mean there's a lot of bands right now playing like you know massive massive shit so the more uh the more you know people that don't listen to this shit that i get exposed to it's just going to be better it's weird i'm seeing like you know so you have like you know

social media and ticot you're seeing like like parents with their kids or five having like some like death core in the background and you're like whoa yeah this is fucking crazy dude yeah the whole other generation i probably won't even start going to show this for another 10 years 10 15 years yeah you know kids like five head bang into like you know who knows like one one or something like dude this is fucking sick yeah absolutely well it's a lot more accessible now you know like back in the day the production quality of like you know different death metal bands was really raw and that's like what made it edgy. But, like, nowadays, the production quality of, like, most of the newer bands that are coming out is actually pretty high.

And I feel like that makes it so much more accessible. Way and the Internet, too. Yeah. Like, I found, I swear, probably half the bands I grew up on, you guys, everything from Hot Topic. Because I would go in and they'd have, like, you know, you could put the headphones on. And whatever, like, new records they have, you could just put. So I, like, I found, like, hell chose me, stuff like that the cleansing. I found all that through there.

Really? Yeah. Absolutely. I should just go on Hot Topic and just listen and be like, okay, I'm going to pick that one up, pick that one up. you know it was absolutely my space too well yeah my space for me yeah yeah it was lime wire lime lime oh yeah oh god no my favorite thing about lime wire it was like infecting your computer yeah like you download that too but you download you're fucked you're fucked and then you realize when you when you download it why are all these songs at the same link you click on it

Rick Astley, second song, Rick Aslo, I was like, okay, you got me. Yeah. Missed those days. So, I mean, I heard a slipmout through a Hot Topic, and it's, there's like that, when they had that listening station, there's something about, this is something about, like, being in Hot Topic,

and then something about those headphones and holding the scene. You get it. This is something about it. It's a sound that I've chased my, my whole life that you'll, you'll never get there. But it's that there's something about the way it hit, hit it, is that the word, hit it? It is now.

It's something in a way that it hits your ear. It's like, man, it stays with you forever. I mean, I found so many of my favorite bands. They're just going on a hot topic. Just intentionally go to just do that. I don't want to talk about myself on this thing, but so the cleansing was on there? There was absolutely. And there was always Carnifex records.

There was all that type of stuff. Really? Yeah, absolutely. I don't remember that. Because that's before that, you know, was actually, like, you'd go in there and there would be, like, death core bands on the wall for T-shirts and stuff,

you know what I mean? Like, it's obviously not like that anymore. Yeah. Yeah. That was part of the last era. It was like, it was a quick, like, year where, like, they wiped out all the CDs. It felt like so quick.

We're, like, you're going out all the time and listen to find your bands, and then, like, that whole section is just disappears. Yeah. You know. But, yeah, that was a special, there's something about it. And, like, you see, like,

they're red numbers. and the track. Is it something about it? I don't know. Yeah, I even, I found a job for a cowboy through the same way. Damn. Just went there, saw the record, clicked on it. They let you listen to the first song or whatever it was.

I don't remember how it went down. But, yeah, I found so many bands through that. Damn. Well, speaking on a hot topic, they're definitely, this year I noticed that they're starting to put in more bands in our genre back up. Are they? I haven't been in a hot topic in a long time. Really?

No, actually, I haven't. Why not? I don't really go to the mall. Oh. You know? Because, like, especially in the spring. Our malls are like super dead. Really?

So there's really no desire to go there. It looks like a ghost town when you go in. It's pretty trippy. You don't like going to mall and just walk around amously? Oh, yeah. That's so much fun. I do that show all the time. Oh, yeah.

I mean, if your mall is actually, you know, alive and has good stores, I just have like, you know, all these weird stores, the whole place is empty. You know, I don't even know how to describe it. Like those weird, like, T-shirt stores that you don't even know how they're paying rent because there's no one in there doing anything. It's so cool.

You go to Hot Top and, you go to Spencer's plastic though everyone's funny you'll find a sick shirt that you got to buy for no apparent reason yep he's like well I have 20 bucks my account I'm gonna buy this t-shirts I need it yeah yeah dude but uh since you don't go there um there they're uh there's some heavy shit going on is there okay I have to go check it out next to the walls dude saw that slutter to prevail t-shirt a second ago oh get that shit out of here dude I got a mean girl's t-shirt from there before tour Really?

Yeah, Mean Girls. Who's that? It's like a Lindsay Lohan movie. Oh, Mean Girls. Oh, it's a movie, right? Okay, yeah. I'll say, you never see Mean Girls.

That's crazy. I never seen Mean Girls. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's great. I'll write that one down. Yeah, yeah. Let's see, Boris the Blade and Mean Girls. Yeah.

They go hand in hand. That's the crowd vibe right there. That's, heck yeah, dude. When I see the word, mean, girl, I just think about my girlfriend. Oh, shit. Relationships, dude. My goodness.

Oh, should we go into that? No. No, we should not. By the moment, I heard something about you, man. And that's why I admire you very much and I respect you because those things that you don't really sign out. You don't sign out for these kind of kind of things. Yeah, absolutely about you. You go out and terrible shit happens when you're out and when things at home, and you just deal with it.

You talk to other bands and you play with you play. other bands and you play shows it's it's a fucking tough thing man so absolutely i respect you man i appreciate you thank you they're trying to get uh you know you don't have to talk about it but yeah going up once uh trying to get the band going after like uh like Mitch and Eddie like there was this whole thing like there is i was having major like relationship problems these things that people never see yeah she was terrible terrible and like it's funny like remember like Eddie at this poem was already in the band. I think we're about to tour with them.

We're already out, but I got high. I was just in my car. I was like, man, she's been cheating on me the whole time. And I was so dumb that I didn't even see that. You know, it's just like, but things that you have to process. Unfortunately, you know, it does go into the music. You know, it's weird. Helps make good music, that's for sure.

Why do you have to be bummed out to write shit like this? I know, isn't it weird? Why is it like that? I don't know. I guess it's just the energy of the music, I suppose, right? It's like you kind of have to be pissed. You're fucking broken. It's angry music, you know?

I think there's like a part in all of us is just a little bit broken. You know, I think it's like a little bit. A little bit. That is something. No, we're good. We're good. Yeah. And Dan, you know, I mean, I always wondered like how singers do you with that.

because you actually have to put words, real words. Yeah. To where we're like, us, like, we kind of put, like, we make it to sounds and emotions, but you actually have to put words to it. Yeah. You know what that sounds harder. Yeah. Yeah, and like I said, like with the lyrics on the previous records, the new one,

a lot of it's just super raw, which is, like, my thing. And yeah, like, I spent a lot of time, like, rewriting some of the lyrics and redoing the demos after the Carnifex tour we did. And I was kind of dealing with some shit then. And I was like, I want to rewrite a lot of these songs because I have a lot more to put into them, I think. And I think it came out like pretty, not to shoot my own horn, but I think it came out like as perfect

as I could like want it to be. Because there's definitely a lot of that negative emotion drilled into the songs and the lyrics. So, yeah. I feel like once people hear the record, they'll be able to really feel like the intensity of all that. Yeah.

Yeah. Really stoked about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I'm a big, like, mental health advocate person. That's why I love exercise. I try to, like, tell people that that's a good thing for them.

But one of the coolest things that's happened to us, I know what's happened to these guys too is when people come up to us and say that, like, oh, man, your music, like, help me through this hard time. or like you know people message us on instagram saying all you guys is you know i'm listening to the songs and helping me like get through my days lately and shit and they're like that's like if i could ask for one thing to come from our music it's like that 100 so my dad always told me if you're gonna do something like do something that's cool and that helps other people and i'm pretty pretty proud that i think like music is a great example of that so it's a great that that's that's a phenomenal advice

yeah yeah so well uh it's Speaking of the gym and being in shape, I want to pitch you an idea, Dan. Okay. Because I'm going to crown you. No, pun, and pun intended. You are the most handsome man in deathcore. So, so this, I don't know if you heard, there's a bet between me and our drummer Ernie. I've heard about this.

Okay, so I invented a diet. Okay. It's called Torquito. Torquito. Yeah. It's, keto is in the name, but it's nothing like. keto. Basically, like, stay away from bread.

No carbs. Uh, yeah, just stay away from carbs or try, you know, fruit, bread, you know, obviously. But then I had like a, another section where it's like, we're allowed beer because beer is for the show. So you, so you have beer and liquor and that's fine. You get blacked out drunk. It's fine. Disclaimer on the diet.

Yes. So I have a disclaimer, both signed it. Ends on the last day. I've seen that in the bus. Yeah, it's on the bus. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Both signed it.

And, you know, last you know whoever loses pays other person 100 bucks but uh i infancy this thing and you know what i want you to be the face or torquito okay and anyway we got if i if i could somehow monetize this let's go dude i mean our lives are fucking crazy dude like just we're just always we're always traveling we're at these random gas stations you know you know how do you how do you stay it in shit. Well, it's pretty much impossible when you're on the road. People ask me that a lot. Like when I'm home, I have a pretty solid routine. But on the road, how do you stay? I mean, you don't. Like, it's hard to go. Like, we got the PF, you know, the PF memberships. We shower

there. But people are like, oh, how often do you work out on the road? I'm like, I mean, barely at all. Yeah, it's tough. Because when you're driving all night and you pull up to Planet Fitness at 3 a.m. You just want to take a shower and sleep, not like lift weights. But I mean, I just try to, like kind of like what you were saying, but I just try to eat healthy as much as I can, try to stay away from like fast food, even though I, you know, housed donuts. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. Just try to eat like high protein and like that's really it, you know.

Just got to suck it up and accept that, except that you're going to lose some weight on tour or whatever. But I don't know. It's part of it. It's whatever. Just like jump back on it when you get home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan, you said something that. and folks hate into me and you're worrying about losing weight. Oh, yeah. Other people, like normal people, are worried about gaining weight. Yeah. You fucking.

Well, you know, I get the cardio session every night when we play, so. That part is cardio singing. Dude, it. It probably is. Because you're using, like, inside of your fucking diaphragm. Oh, yeah, I go, you know.

I go through two pairs of underwear every day because I got to change in every place because I'm just soaked through. Soaked through sweat and everything. Sorry, I'm sweating this one. I'm shitting this one and then I'm going to have a new one. Yeah, I've been set. The show one, the shit one, the fresh one.

I think that's what a lot of people struggle with in general. Like it's just, that's a some people travel more than one than others. In the moment you leave your house, you start traveling, you're driving somewhere far or a family function or you're flying at a fucking business meeting, that's where all bets are off. Oh, yeah.

Your wheelpower and being, discipline is tested. Yes. So when someone I, I encounter someone that is like in great shape, I, I, I, I, people have to ask. Yeah. Because it's a hard thing to do. Yeah, man.

You know, so you said, so, so, so, so you're saying like high protein, try to stay away from. Yeah, just do your best, honestly. I mean, like, like, I played, I played football for like 15 years. Oh, shit. So, like, after I stopped playing football, I was like, that's kind of why I wanted to get into bands because I was like, I have to replace that, like, energy with something. So after I stopped playing football, I just kind of stayed in the gym and it just became like, you know, part of my life. It's good.

Plus, like, one thing I'll repeat it again, it's like so good for your brain, your mental health. Sure. Just go exercise. So, I mean, that's like a huge part of it for me too. That's why I go all the time because I just feel better after. Yeah. So that's like, I try to tell people about that specifically all the time. But, you know, it'll literally make you feel better.

So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people go not for. anything just it's just for the mind i i go to gym all the time when i'm home it's just it's all mental yeah mental emotional yeah you know it's like i found like it's those obviously you know with different members deal with different levels of stress you know i'm not i'm not sure exactly who uh really takes on a stress usually one one or two people kind of take it all and but i noticed but what kind of like when my experience was like you know it's like let's say like

you work out on like the first something will happen later on in the month you that you'll be prepared for because you put in some work throughout the whole month. You won't, and when it comes in, you don't, don't, your emotions aren't like. Yeah, man. So you're able to kind of take it in, okay, then I kind of process it, you know,

in a healthy way. Yeah, you know. I mean, you learned like discipline and like all that stuff through like just having the habit of that. But another reason I love going is because I just like go like jam albums. So it's like two hours. Oh, I love that.

Two hours for you just go like listen to new music like do my thing so it's like it's really like relaxation time almost which sounds kind of weird but it is yeah it does it does yeah you're going there you're like i'm relaxed yeah i'm i'm listening to boris a blade you know i'm fucking relax i'm fucking benching a fucking thousand pounds come home yeah i'm chilling all right well dan i appreciate you being the face of torquito anytime me i mean all you guys are in shape you guys you guys are you guys are i'm trust me When you get older, like, you know, you're just trying to like, you look at a piece of pizza and you gain fucking 20 pounds, dude. It's really, it's just so much, man.

So anyway, I know we got to get to L.A. I appreciate you guys being here early in the morning, having to be with me. I think we all have head-banging brain right now. And I hope that, I hope that the, all the fans of your band, you know, enjoy this. Because, you know, I couldn't really find many interviews of you guys. Yeah. Yeah, there's not a lot out there. I'm looking forward to what people say about this.

Anyway, new song is out now. New record, everything bleeds out July 14th. Holy moly. It's going to be fucking not heavy at all. So, yeah, it's going to be weak. Not fast or heavy, so. So where can people find you guys? All of our socials, Instagram, Facebook for sure.

All streaming sites, Spotify, please. And we got, we have some more singles coming out before the record. drops too so great yeah i gotta do the one i got the fucking once a month or yeah yeah yeah yeah give you three weeks so nice few more weeks it's crazy me puts me the time to something that finally comes out like it feels it feels old yeah oh yeah you already you already think i think heard it a thousand times yeah we write a bunch so we're already probably gonna start writing again when we get back from this you have to yeah we keep it going it's kind of always the goal on as long as you push me it out and you you start to get that those sounds in in and your brain

it going again you know it's like oh shit we're we're we're Okay, we did something right. Yeah. It's cool. It's kind of like the new era, you know, like, people have very short attention span, so you can't really just put, like, one single in an album out. You gotta, you know, just keep it coming.

Totally. Anything, uh, do what we miss? Anything? We're all handsome. Yeah. It's been sick as fucking. I can agree with that. Yeah, guys, man.

It's been, it's been an honor to, it's for you guys, man. I told you guys, I told, uh, the bog, you know, bands like that, you know, are why we're here. you know we we would not be here without bands like you guys go right back at you man you I mean it's it's all coming together yeah like you know because without the younger bands coming up we're just there's nothing else coming up sure

we're all just kind of just going you know it's badass yeah it is badass all right everyone that's it crown magitar come on