Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - 2023 Mock Draft Spectacular

Episode Date: April 21, 2023

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It's Thursday, April 20th. I'm Jeff Schwartz alongside Gabe Goodwin, Matt Ford, and Hank. This is Jeff Schwartz with Smarter Than You. This is our draft spectacular or mock draft we do every single year. It's our favorite episode we do the entire offseason. We did it live on Twitter this year. You go to my Twitter, you can watch the entire video. So this is that show on Twitter, the entire thing. It's a lot of fun. We go through all the draft picks. We talk about them, what we would take, maybe some trades we would do, how it might unfold, what your favorite team should take, what they might take,

and all the fun that comes with this draft. This is going to be a draft that's going to have chaos, probably from pick number two, where the Texans are not taking a quarterback, and that will spiral into many different things happening. We don't have a wide receiver taken in our mock draft till i think pick number 21 so we've got a lot of weird thing happening so check it out it's a lot of fun if you like it please leave us a rating we always appreciate the five-star review go to twitter at Jeff Schwartz as well. Let us know what you think about the show. And without further ado, here it is.

Gabe, Matt, Hank, how are we doing, everyone? Are you guys excited? One week from today, the NFL draft. Couldn't be more excited, Jeff. Been missing football. It's fun to pretend we care about the NBA, but let's talk football. I see your board there. You look excited for the draft.

Yeah, I'm prepared. Very prepared. Matt and Hank, you two, before we get to the draft, we haven't talked about this because we've been off on vacation. We're back all together now. Football is going full steam ahead. You're Commanders fans. You have a new Commanders owner.

We've talked about this for years now. Before we get – as people kind of roll in here as we get started here how do we feel about a new commander's owner matt i'll go to you first buddy feel amazing jeff uh long time as listeners of this show no uh season ticket holder for the washington now commanders um never thought this day would come to be honest like it just felt like it was too good to be true and frankly it still feels a little bit too good to be true like something could fall through at the last minute but you know it now things can sort of restart and reset I think for the team and you know the the obstacles that got in the way of any success hopefully get removed so will they be an amazing team like they once were? Maybe not, but at least they won't hopefully be a laughing

stock anymore. That's sort of where I am. Hank, where are you? Yeah, I mean, my entire lifetime has been Dan Snyder ownership. So the bar is so low. I don't care how much better they get. I just want to be not like a laughingstock and like a human rights violation. It'd be nice to not hit those points. Anything above there and we're good to go. The first thing the owner has to do is change the name. But there's plenty of other shows for that. We have a people role.

We can start our mock draft spectacular. Here's what's going to happen. We've assigned the order of how we're going to pick this. We're kind of going to go in a roundabout order. Some of it is our favorite team. Some of it Hank has assigned randomly. We're going to go through one by one. We're going to give our pick.

We're going to talk about the pick. And then we're going to have some fun with this. Guys, it's not going to be exactly how you might think the mock draft is going to go. We're going to have some fun with this. Gabe, you're up first with the Panthers, and you're not allowed to pick a center. Every year, Gabe has picked a center at some point in every single draft. Maybe at some point this year he'll pick a center,

but it won't be for number one. Panthers did try it for this draft pick, and I'm curious, Gabe, which quarterback, please be a quarterback, Gabe, you're taking for the Panthers here at number one. All right, Jeff. I've given this a lot, Gabe, you're taking for the Panthers here at number one? All right, Jeff. I've given this a lot of thought, as you can see. I did my research.

The Panthers are drafting number one. And, Jeff, you said to us offline that there will be no trades in this draft, but I am sorry I am disobeying that right out of the gate. Hot potato. We have traded the pick to the desperate Indianapolis Colts who are currently sitting at four. They think they would miss out on their guy. So they're willing to give it up to go get the Panthers pick

which used to be the Bears pick. Nobody knows what quarterback's being taken but now Matt Ford, you as the Colts GM have to make the pick, I'll draft fourth. I mean this- You'll hide my back and in the office and make a trade? I'm making this trade.

He doesn't know it's coming. Was this trade straight up a first pick for the fourth pick with nothing else? They just swapped this two? No, the Panthers are going to pick up some stuff in the future. Don't you worry about them. They're going to be just fine. A few trips on Jim Irsay's private plane. I think we're thrown in here.

I mean, Gabe, this undid seconds of preparation that I've done for this show, so I don't really know what I'm going to do. What we're going to do here is we're going to make... We can make the trade pick, and then we're going to go backwards

and Gabe is going to have to pick for the Panthers at number one. Matt, if you're the Colts here, because look, the Colts theoretically could trade up to number one. I doubt it happens. If you are the Colts here at number one, who are you taking? What quarterback is yours to take? I mean, I'm a Stroud guy, but I think that Young is going to be the pick, no matter who's picking number one.

Obviously, it's going to be Carolina if it goes to two. If Indy were to trade up, you'd think that that number two spot where Houston just has so many needs and could potentially get whoever at number four, Richardson, Levis, whatever. I don't know, man. I think Stroud is cursed by the Ohio State quarterbacks thing, and I think that he's got the size, he's got the pedigree, he doesn't have the weapons that are Fields and, you know,

other Ohio State quarterbacks in the past have had that sort of downgraded what they could be in the NFL. So I would be a Stroud guy, but no matter what, I think the first pick is Young, right? The first pick is – go ahead, Gabe. If I'm going to have to make the pick officially, if I'm not allowed to make a trade, then I'm going to make – I'm going to assume that the Panthers did not trade to the number one, unsure who they wanted. And the only guy who I think anyone should reasonably be afraid could go sooner than their pick is Bryce Young.

So I think we just logically have to conclude that they traded to the one to go get Bryce Young, whether he turns out to be great or not. So with the first pick of the 2023 draft, the Carolina Panthers take Bryce Young out of Alabama. I agree this is the pick that's the gambling favorite. The one thing about this pick, I will say, that I think is the most difficult part is they're drafting an outlier, right? They're drafting a player who would be the outlier.

He would be the guy drafting the first round in his size who has succeeded when a player of his size at that position has not ever done that before at this draft slot right there's a difference when you pick a guy in the third round or fourth or fifth round the first overall pick if you're the panthers did you trade up to draft a player who is the outlier right cj as you mentioned matt has the size, has the arm strength. But again, look, this is all things that we've read. I don't know the testing scores. I didn't see them, but they said he didn't test as well as Bryce Young.

And there's other things off the field that they don't like as much as Bryce Young. But nonetheless, is that the physical stature of C.J. Stroud is something you trade up to get, right? And Bryce Young is the outlier. Most ready quarterback, I think he does go number one. But the Panthers are taking a risk. And, again, this is part of the draft. But I don't know if you ever want to be the team drafting kind of like

on either end, right, like the biggest or tallest, and then like kind of the smallest. So the Panthers are going to draft Young, I think that's my only concern with with with bryce young here um all right well big red flag for cj stroud that he turned down an invite to the manning camp i mean that was the big story i mean what the hell are we doing here okay so manning media industrial complex has reached a critical mass like we have to reel it in a little bit here. So Brady Quinn shared that as reasons why people are down on Stroud. Okay. So here's the thing about some of those things, right? I hear things like that for certain players and you have to pick

and choose whether or not you're going to say those things. And sometimes you say them and you don't realize what it means or how it comes off. And you realize people are going to take one clip of you saying that and just run with it, right? And I don't think Brady Quinn meant it in a way that people have taken it, but it sounds terrible to be like, yeah, he's not drafted number one overall because he didn't attend a Manning quarterback camp. It's one of those things where you probably don't share it. I don't know. It seems not important to the reason why you get drafted or not. We ran this with Jalen Carter back in January

with people getting really upset about some of the character issues that were raised. Obviously, more has come out, so some of that anger has subsided. But it's always tough when people say and find little reasons to not draft players. I don't think Brady Quinn was being malicious, but it came off in a kind of a – it just didn't have to happen that way. Like, you just have to go that direction. All right, Hank.

You know why they're going to take him number one? Honestly, and I'm doing this just to troll Hank. It's very simple. We all saw him play Texas. That game shouldn't have been close, and it was. And then when they needed to win, he was like, oh, forget all of you. I'll just be the best player on the field by far and win this game by myself. And we're all remembering that.

You can watch all the tape and be as big a dork as you want. In the end, you need a guy who can do that. Yes. And Stroud didn't do that enough. That's not what his game was in Ohio State until the Georgia game. The Georgia game, he did that. And that is what you have to ask yourself. Is that what he's going to be in the NFL?

Or is he going to be the quarterback that we saw the rest of his time in Ohio State? All right, Hank, you are up with the Texans. Second pick. Well, with that Bryce Young game at Texas, it was difficult for me to see since I was so high up in the stands. But I think I remember the play of the game being Bryce Young just shaking off a blitzer, just completely ducking under the guy, and then scrambling to pick up a key third down.

They hit the game-winning score a few plays later, which you could argue that if Bryce Young was four inches taller, he wouldn't have been able to escape that sack. As mentioned, we all watched the game. We remember. We wish our limit of Texas talk. You're off. All the guys who were drafted to Texas now.

Wait till you see who I pick right here. If you pick Bijan, you're being thrown off the show. Jeff told me I couldn't take Bijan at number two or else I would it would already be in um I think I think there's one good player Pierce I think the the Texans aren't gonna go quarterback if Bryce Young is already off the board it sounds like that's their guy Lance Zerline's been saying this for a while smarter people than me have been hinting at it and if you're going with someone who isn't a quarterback I think Will Anderson is the safest bet. I mean, the Texans, for the second year in a row,

have nobody talented on their roster. So really every position is a position in need. So Will Anderson, lock it in. Yeah, I think Will Anderson has to be this guy. 34.5 sacks, like 58.5 tackles for loss in three years Alabama he just he's the safest pass rusher right now right like he has to be the guy they pick it's just you mentioned Lance Zerline who we had on last year on the show who said that the Walker was gonna be the first pick in the draft way early and anyone else said that he lives in Houston. He knows what Texas is going to do, and he has said many times over now that the Texans are not going to take a quarterback with that pick.

And so I would have to believe that. It's Will Anderson who I would pick, and then possibly Tyree Wilson. I don't think it's Jalen Carter. So I'm with you here. It is Will Anderson. And they can also trade out of that, by the way. If there's a quarterback that one team wants to move up to two,

I think Texas would gladly trade out of that. I have the third pick here. I have the Cardinals, guys. I think the Cardinals would love trade out of three. Any team who wants a quarterback, Stroud, Levis, Anderson, the Cardinals are so open for business, whether it's the Colts, whether it's the Raiders trading up. Someone trading up.

The Titans trading up to three. Someone getting to three. I don't think the Cardinals make this pick. I will make this pick because I have to because we're not doing trades. Well, unless you're, of course, Gabe. You're allowed to. Whoever he wants. And so I think the pick sort of has to be Tyree Wilson here,

the edge rusher out of Texas Tech, who's the next up, kind of next edge rusher up here. And, again, I don't think the Cardinals will make this pick here because I don't think they'll be in the spot. I think this will be a quarterback when we get to Thursday. But we're sticking with this. I'll take Tyree Wilson, the pass rusher, who's edge number two on most people's kind of big boards

mock drafts um from texas tech just cardinals cardinal team talent they talent any position anywhere impact pass rusher new general manager new head coach this feels like a direction uh they'd love to go here with especially a defensive head coach i'll just go with uh with with tyree wilson here well that puts me up at number four and the colts are at four they've fallen ass backwards into peyton manning and andrew luck and now they're falling ass backwards into my favorite quarterback in this class cj stroud at number four if this is how the actual draft shakes out i'm going to be so mad because they just don't deserve to have another set of good luck

when hank and i have had to watch uh taylor heineke be the best quarterback that our team has ever had so uh yeah i mean i think that if there is a trade up you know the colts are probably gonna do it it was funny the other day jim ursay was like stay tuned for what we're doing in our draft and then tweeted out a picture of the top four quarterbacks in the class like they're obviously taking a quarterback um I was sure that I was gonna have to justify Will Levis for them here but thrilled for for the lucky Colts fans uh to take CJ Stroud see you at St. Elmo's Jeff um I I think the Colts will will make this pick here um and it will be a quarterback again the, the question is maybe who it ends up being. The one question mark is, is this the Lamar Jackson trade?

Is this when they go and trade for Lamar Jackson, and then the Ravens are taking this pick, and they're drafting Stroud or someone else with four? That's only, I think, the question mark. Here are the Colts move up. The Colts are leaving Thursday night with a quarterback. Whether it's in this draft or whether it's Lamar Jackson, they're leaving with a quarterback on Thursday.

So they have to, right? They've done enough years now of this. We haven't found anyone since Andrew Luck left. It's time to move past that. Find your quarterback in the future, whether it is Lamar or whether it is one of these young guys. I see them going Stroud Levis Anderson again Stroud to me is quarterback too I think again the question is do we see the the Georgia CJ Stroud or do we see the other game CJ Stroud I think to me you see the Georgia CJ Stroud in the NFL

which makes him um you know an elite prospect elite type prospect so i like it colts of four stroud uh next up here we have the seahawks and gabe you have the seahawks pick here at five right so obviously the first thing people will ask is are they getting the guy to replace gino And I would say if everything that just happened here happens in real life, they're definitely not going to go reach for a quarterback in this spot. Jeff, you love Pete Carroll. You're on record saying it over and over again. You like his attitude. Big USC fan. But you love the culture he creates. You would not deny that defense has been what has made the Seahawks

great at times, and defense is probably all they were lacking last season. So I think the mixture of the need for defense and the belief that they can create the right culture is why they go for the guy who could have been number one overall until all the bad headlines this offseason. So Jalen Carter falls in their lap. They go Jalen Carter number five. They have to. They don't have a choice. And Pete Carroll over the years has been fine with taking players with kind of maybe questionable character. Again, I hate using that character term because it feels like a very broad thing to say, right? And oftentimes, not just to Jalen Carter, but for any prospect,

you think when you hear character, you think, and of course, he has had trouble with the law. So maybe this is not the best example, but you do think issues with the law, right? And a lot of players, the character issues are not with the law. And so I hate that catch-all term of character issues,

right, off-field issues. What is it? Is it work ethic in the building? Is it hard to coach? Does it have a lot of teammates that are friendly with? It's like, what is it? And everyone just says character, character, character. And there were things for Jalen Carter that are not with the law

that people were worried about. Obviously, the player that he is, he's a fantastic player. He's so good. And I think he fits perfectly what Seattle wants to be, wants to do. And I think Seattle fans and Pete Carroll would be absolutely thrilled if they end up with Jalen Carter here at five. Love the pick here for the Seahawks. So why don't you think the Cardinals would have taken him?

I'm curious. I just want some smart takes here. Why wouldn't the Cardinals would have taken him? I'm curious. I just want some smart takes here. Why wouldn't the Cardinals have taken Jalen Carter? Yeah, I think with a new general manager and a new coach, I think you just take the safer pick, right? Like you just take a guy who, William Anderson, Tyree Wilson, just no concerns, right? Like none whatsoever.

There's nothing that, nothing. Like just, you know, Williams has a captain in Alabama. He played in the Sugar Bowl this year because he felt like, you know, he earned that C he wanted to play for his team, even though he knew that game meant nothing to him, right? They were in a playoff, and he was already going to be a high draft pick. And so you draft a player like that when you're kind of building your team up right Seattle has that culture Pete Carroll's been there for so many years now Jalen Carter you bring him in your

culture you get him in there in an established program and everything goes well when you're adding a player like that again I feel I don't know Jalen Carter so I feel kind of awkward talking about him personally like this but if you bring him into a place where you're trying to build up a culture like with a new coach, a new general manager, maybe he's not the best fit. A guy like Will Anderson or Tyree Wilson is probably better. So that's why I think he goes to five to Seattle. I think Seattle's the perfect place for him.

Again, Pete Carroll's done it for so many years in the NFL, obviously at USC with all the different characters he had there and personalities. He's done that in Seattle as well. And so Jalen Carter here I think is a perfect fit. Seattle would be happy. Very productive player for Seattle. All right.

Hank, you have the Lions pick. All right. Similar to the Seahawks one, you could see them going to get their quarterback of the future here. But I think, especially since the Lions pick again in the first round, I think they wouldn't pass up the chance to get like a premier defensive player. So I'm going Devon Witherspoon, who's the corner out of Illinois. For one, he's like the perfect Dan Campbell Lions player.

Dane Brugler called him a junkyard dog. Lovey Smith, who was his coach at Illinois, said he's one of the toughest players on the team. Also, just like reading the tea leaves with the Lions have done this offseason, they went and added Cam Sutton from the Steelers, and then they also signed C.J. Gardner-Johnson. So with this pick, they've just completely revamped their secondary, which was not a great one last year in just one offseason.

Also, sorry to Christian Gonzalez, the Ducks corner. I think he's great. I don't want to offend anybody here. No, you're fine. I think the's great. I don't want to offend anybody here. No, you're fine. I think the Lions, it definitely feels like at six, they're going with a cornerback. It's a big position of need for them. And it is going to be either Witherspoon,

who was kind of a man cover, in-your-face cornerback, Illinois. Christian Gonzalez, 6'2", long, fast, kind of a different type of body type than Witherspoon. He kind of played differently in Oregon, was asked to do different things. And so you're right about kind of Witherspoon just feels like a lion, like the way he played. And so I can understand that pick. Gonzalez is more of the physical specimen.

Like if you're going for the specimen of like this is what I want in my elite corner i want him to be you know six two he's from a family of sprinters um i guess he's six one family of sprinters long arms a huge upside but with a spoon to me is it's not a bad pick he's cornerback one or two and everyone's bored uh life's taking a corner though my opinion um i have the raiders here at seven and um it's your favorite team it is my favorite team oh man the raiders i raiders have so many different things they could do here um people have mocked them to have uh to trade out this pick uh for someone else can go ahead and get themselves a, a quarterback in this spot. People have them taking a quarterback in this spot. There's, I think they would love to take a quarterback,

but I don't, I don't think any of these guys, you know, whether it's Levis or Richardson, like stand, stand out. I don't, I don't, I don't think any of these guys, whether it's Levis or Richardson, stand out. I don't think so. To me, I just don't know if they're going to pull that trigger on Richardson in this spot. And the highest graded guy kind of on the board still is Christian Gonzalez. Like to me, you just take the highest guy on your board of a position of need.

You need corners. You always need corners in that division with the passing of Mahomes and Herbert and Wilson should be better hopefully. And you just take the best player on your board. You take a cornerback, you take Christian Gonzalez and you just move on with that. You can never go wrong taking the best player.

You can take offensive linemen here, seven tad probably early for an offensive lineman. If the draft breaks out like this, where you have Wilson, Anderson, and Carter gone at the defensive line, and there's a need maybe for a team that wants a quarterback really badly the raiders could definitely move back in the middle of first round grab an offensive line

in the middle of first round and more draft picks if they stay at seven i'll give them chris gonzalez just take the best player still on your board of a position you can't have enough uh good corners and that to me is where i'll go with Gonzalez here. Any objections for any of you? I know you guys are big draft experts here. Not objections, but question for you. Do you worry for their sake? I know you're not rooting for the Raiders generally, but if you're a fan,

do you worry that they make the like sexy pick? They're still pretty new in town. They just lost their quarterback, their best receiver. It seems to be falling apart in front of us. And, you know, like maybe they go reach or do something to try to attract some headlines and sell some tickets. And a great cornerback is not going to do anything for moving the needle. Well, it certainly might do that.

I guess the question becomes obviously like how much does, you know, does Josh McDaniel have, like how many years does he think he has left there? Because you can make the case that the boom or bust potential on Will Levis and Richardson is so high, right? And I think Richardson's potential is so much higher than Will Levis. You just get the best guy in Gonzalez, and then next year these quarterbacks are better next year. Like you just get yourself a guy next year and you don't worry with okay wilmington or will levis turn out to be

really good just give yourself a good corner i i hear what you're saying game there's a rush to get the next guy but richardson and levis i don't know if they're the next best guy i'm not telling you they are i'm telling you their coach is a grifter who is pretending for 15 years now that he's some sort of quarterback whisperer uh here we go it only took it only took it only took seven picks for the anti-patriots guy to come out here he is he's he's here i'm speaking that's why that's why i think they're gonna to draft Van Ness, like somebody who's just like a Patriots snoozer. Can they redraft Tyler Linderbaum? Can they just pick the most boring person of all time?

Also, it's just funny. The DN from Iowa. I can see, look, I watched him a little bit against Peter Scoranzi the other day, the offensive tackle from Northwestern. He's edge three for Dan, like for Dan Brugler. He has them ranked 10th on his big board. I'm looking right now at like 14th for Dan Jeremiah.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't see it right now, but they could go Luke Van Ness. It's a very Patriots pick, Luke Van Ness. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Isn't Levis also a boring pick? And then plus his eating banana peels act could be like a sideshow thing on the strip. He's a perfect fit there. I just don't buy the Levis thing. I don't buy it. The more we get closer to the draft, Anthony Richardson is just so boom or bust, right? Like he can be in the draft at some point, next couple of picks in our draft.

I mean, there's so much potential for him to be the best of the class. But also there's a potential that he's the worst of the class immediately, right? It would scare me if you're drafting him to be your franchise quarterback having him play so early. Good segue, Matt. You doing it? I'm really thinking about it. I mean, so I have the eighth pick.

I have the Falcons. A real interesting team. I think like the Raiders, they have a little bit of a self-scouting question here where they're like are we close they're not this similar to my commanders who are trotting out a uh bad quarterback on a rookie contract just to sort of see what happens i think they're off season they've they've really gone defensive heavy i you know not not super locked in on the falcons free agency track i don't know about you guys but claus campbell bud dupree jesse bates they just traded for jeff akuta it's kind of

fun so i think they're gonna pass on quarterback and go with the georgia bulldog nolan smith who ran a faster 40 than ste Diggs. Very quick. I think it could add a nice little pass rush for that defense, which is added pretty much everywhere else. So I think the quarterbacks will keep sliding here. I think the Falcons are too boring to make a pick that would spice up this draft. What do you guys think?

So the Falcons with the offense, I think could use Anthony Richardson and be fine with it, right? Kind of ease them into the NFL in the offense they run. And I think they could do this. Plus, I think right now, if the Raiders pass on a quarterback, teams are calling the Falcons, they're calling the Bears, they're calling the Eagles. They're trying to get up ahead of the Titans at 11.

If they love Richardson or Levis, they're calling now to get in and get these picks done. But obviously in our thing, we're not doing that. And one team I think could be the Vikings, which is one to watch could be kind of fun, I think, with the Vikings. Constance has like one year left, I think, on his deal. And if they love one of these guys, this could be a year where they just say, you know what, let's go do it let's go let's go go up there but noel smith proven guy from georgia um makes a ton of sense here as you mentioned very athletic um again at georgia they don't rush the

passer like they do in alabama they're not kind of getting after it so a lot of those guys are kind of projection to the nfl um so i like. All right, Gabe, you have the Bears here. They have a specific need, the Bears do. Well, that's something you probably know about because you are smart and follow football closely and know things. I do not. So I'm going to just go with what makes the most sense to me for a number of easy reasons.

They got the quarterback they think is the right guy. Pretty much everything else around him sucks. Seems to me that if Pete Skronsky slipped this far and he's not even, he doesn't have to move. He can stay in the condo he's living in. Skronsky, join the Bears, buddy. You're already nearby. I love this pick.

He is my offensive lineman number one. And what I like about this pick for the Bears is he profiles as a guard or tackle in the NFL. A lot like a Zach Martin who played left tackle in college or right guard in the NFL. I'm not calling him Zach Martin. But a guy that teams, I think, it was explained like this. I think it's the right way to explain it.

He can be an all-pro at guard or kind of a good tackle, right? So the Bears can say, look, we need him at right tackle this year, and next year we'll put him at guard. This year we'll just put him at guard. The other guys, Paris Johnson or Broderick Jones, are just tackles, right? They're just tackles only. And so I think the Bears at nine very gladly take Peter Skronski, but also, too, the Eagles, I think, would have taken him at 10.

So you block another team, not in your division, but in the conference from also taking Peter Skronski. But the same exact thought. Let's draft him. We'll put him at right guard. We have a hole there. Maybe put him at right tackle eventually when Lane gets to the age where he's no longer able to play for us.

And it also kind of blocks the Eagles from taking a player like that at 10. But the Bears, it has to be him or it's going to be most likely Paris Johnson, the left tackle from Ohio State. Not as good as Stronsky, but he's off his tackle number one. So I love the pick here. All for it. Also Big Boys Club. His nickname growing up was Fudge?

I think his name was like Fudge. Go with that. Yeah. Like the Key and Peele sketch. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Yeah, Fudge. All right. Next up, I believe, is Hank with the Eagles. Yep. So, first off, you sniped me with the Scoracchi pick. That's what I wanted. No, this is not a Bijon pick, and I'll tell you why. The Eagles have taken two running backs in the top 130 since 1986.

And this is – I went and looked this up. In 2019, they picked Miles Sanders with the 53rd overall pick. And then in 2009, they picked LaShawn McCoy with the 53rd overall pick. So I think we should wait six more years, have the Eagles trade into that 53 spot, and then they'll take their next running back. But we're not going Bijan here. He just doesn't want to root against Bijan.

That's all. Yeah. He 100% would go there. Well, Bijan is the best player left on the board, B. John, that's all. Yeah. He 100% would go there. I can read between the lines there. Well, B. John is the best player left on the board, but I think he's just too nice to last in a city like Philly. I'm going offensive line. I think I would have gone Skowronski for sure.

I'm leaning towards Paris Johnson. He played right guard in his, I think, sophomore season at Ohio State and was like second team all Big Ten. So he could fit in at that right guard spot and then slide over to right tackle when Lane Johnson eventually retires. Yes, Jeff already told us all this stuff. Jeff, what do you think about Darnell Wright? Because he is a true right tackle, would be a better fit in the Lane Johnson spot.

Yeah, but I just don't think Lane is going anywhere right now. Okay, so then I'll make Parrish Johnson the pick. Okay, that makes more sense because Parrish Johnson can play guard as well. I could see the Eagles obviously going in that direction and then also maybe just pass rusher, I guess. Maybe Lucas Van Ness if he's not boringly taken by the Raiders. I like that Matt prediction, like a boring Patriots guy the Raiders take. So I like it here.

You went with Paris Johnson, the offensive tackle, who could play guard from Ohio State. All right, I'm with Tennessee at 11. So this is where I think they have a lot of options. I think they would have gladly taken Paris Johnson and offered to tackle. He's not there anymore. Broderick Jones could be a possibility, but I'll save that pick for you, Gabe, at 13 with the Jets.

I'm doing it. Anthony Richardson. You've got to do it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm taking him here for the Tennessee Titans at 11. They don't have anyone else. Like Tannehill is on the way out, and Malik Willis, they're terrified to have him throw the football.

Like they don't have a choice. It has to be Anthony Richardson. He's better than Will Levis. The upside is there. The offense, they run. I think it really kind of eased him into this. The only question is how quickly does he play, right? Like you have to have Tannehill, I think, give him half the season

or more of kind of continued, you continued – just allow Richardson to sit and learn and grow into that role. But Richardson has to be the pick here. There's no doubt about it. Tennessee would love to take him. But I do think if Paris Johnson is on the board here, they will think about taking a left tackle over Richardson. Slightly think about that.

I don't think they're going to end up doing that, but they will think about a left tackle over Richardson. Slightly think about that. I don't think they're going to end up doing that, but they will think about a left tackle over Richardson. But Richardson's the pick for me. All right, Matt, you have the Texans here at 12. Well, I was down to two players. It was either Richardson or Levis. It just depended on what you were going to do there. So the Texans who a day or two ago, I was just looking it up, Will Levis was the betting favorite to go number two. And then a bunch of things happened, and now he visited the Patriots, and now everyone's kind of wondering what's going on here. But if the Texans end up taking Levis at number 12,

which I have them doing now, I would think they'd be doing backflips because they got the the defensive anchor the jet or hank took uh willie anderson at number two for them and now they get a quarterback we'll have a sneaky kind of old believe he's 23 um he's not as much of a project you'd think as richardson even though we all i think have some doubts about whether he's actually going to be good or not um but yeah i think you know, I think they get a shot at quarterback. They're not too heavily invested at the top of the draft,

and they can at least start to build from there. What do you think? Houston ending a draft with Will Anderson and Will Levis would be a huge home run for them. They would love to end with a franchise quarterback and a franchise pass rusher. I think this is what they would do if this broke out this way, Matt,

like you, you'd have to do it. You would, you wouldn't have a choice. Again, they could trade out of this. I guess if someone really wanted Will Levis and play for next year, essentially,

but D'Amico Ryan's probably doesn't want to have a year where they go two and 15 again, three and 14 with Davis Mills. He wants to win now as soon as possible, and you want to do that with a young quarterback that you choose. Will Levis is that guy. So I like this pick here. All right, Gabe, you have your favorite team here, New York Jets,

who you've made some – you obviously like to play a role, right? You play the fan on this show most often. But every now and then you say things that are not the fan game. They're like the actual football knowledgeable person at times game. You said you don't think Aaron Rodgers would actually make it to New York. And it feels like you might sort of be right here. Is Aaron Rodgers actually going to be a Jet? No. This is all BS.

It's going to fall apart. And honestly, he's misplaying his hand. Eventually, the Jets are just going to be like, whatever, dude. Moving on. We didn't give up anything for you. We let you be the center of attention for a few weeks. You sort of helped us out too. But if we just don't bring you in, it's not like our fan base

is going to revolt so that said i think i might have gotten drunk enough on the idea of will levis to maybe actually consider him and then quickly somebody in that room would have sobered them up and said stop let's remember the last couple years let's remember that feeling we had after the early in the second round last year when everyone suddenly loved us again because we didn't act like jackasses throughout the draft for one season. Let's do that again. Let's just get the right kind of player.

Let's not worry about a quarterback who has like some cool look. Let's not do that. So they're going to go for the guy you said i know nothing about him you're gonna have to tell me more but the offensive tackle from georgia yeah he's the best player available and he's the guy that they need to keep solidifying just healthy wins in the draft he's the guy no more hot quarterbacks no more quarterbacks are done we're done with our quarterbacks a new era he he done. We're done with the guy quarterbacks. It's a new era.

It's a lot like Andrew Thomas, right? The player that the Giants drafted. It took a year to kind of grow into the position. But the most athletic offensive lineman, when you watch his film in space, it's incredible. He's so powerful in space. He's got to clean up his hands a little bit, his strike timing. But he's a guy that – Becton's back healthy.

You have Jones in there as well. Vera Tucker's back healthy. The makings of a very good offensive line, a young offensive line there. And so this would be a great pick for the Jets. It's absolutely what they would do at 13 if it broke out this way. And Jones is going to be a good pro. He's going to

be a very good pro. I think the trajectory of Thomas, right, where the first year, a little bumpy, but the athletic tools, the mental makeup to continue to kind of rise as he improves throughout his career. I like this pick here for the Jets. Hank, you have the Patriots here. You can't draft a quarterback, I don't think. So I'm curious what the Patriots do here at 13. Yeah, I think Matt called this. I'm going Lucas Van Ness, just the big, boring edge

rusher from Iowa. I think the one thing here that makes me think the Patriots would probably lean his way, we know Bill Belichick loves guys with a mental edge, and Lucas Van Ness is dating the younger sister of Bears tight end cole commit which is kind of like a one-up if those two teams ever meet i don't think bill would want to pass that up so lock it in lucas venice how i commit your mother i mean no no wide receiver you don't think so they're so bad at drafting receivers in the first round whoever i picked would turn into a bust and i actually i really thought about doing Addison just to get the only player that matters from Gabe's favorite team onto his least favorite NFL team,

but I don't think the Patriots would do that. I think they're more likely to take shots in the second round. I could see them getting Josh Downs in the second round and that being a better fit for them than anybody they'd grab here. The Patriots picking the Colin Jost of defensive ends seems right. That makes sense. I saw him at a restaurant the other day. I actually got that pop call for reference.

I normally don't. I'm proud of myself for that one. I got that one. Okay, Lucas Van Ness off the board. Here's the fun part about this draft. If Richardson is there at 14, the Patriots draft him, I think. I don't know. I don't think so.

It'll be fun. They ran terror on Gabe's Jets for the rest of our life. All right, I have the Packers at 15. Every single person has the Packers drafting a tight end. I do as well. It is Dalton Kincaid out of Utah. Sorry, Gabe. I know you want him for your Chargers.

I know. I know. Here's why I take Kincaid over Michael Mayer of Notre Dame. Kincaid is the best pass catcher, period, in this draft of wide receiver tight end. Best pass catcher. Obviously, Gabe watched him torch his troaches twice this season. And I think you just, you bring him into Green Bay and you say, Jordan Love, here's your guy. Here's your guy. Throw him the ball. He'll catch it every time. And he's just a blanket for him, right? Like, here you go. Everyone knew he was getting the ball every time and he's just a blanket for him right like here you go everyone

knew he was getting the ball every time Utah played played on offense and guess what he caught the ball every time is he gonna run block absolutely not he's not there for that he's there to catch the ball right and there's plenty of tight ends around the NFL that are not blocking Dallas Goddard doesn't block very well Zach Ers doesn't block very well it's fine you can have tight ends look travis kelsey obviously he used to block that's not what it does anymore the chiefs have someone else blocked now you know plenty of times that don't block kinkade doesn't have to be a blocker let him be a pass catcher he's the best one in this draft regardless of position and so kinkade here and i look for i'm a just a Justin Herbert fan. I wish they would get him at 15, see me at 21, which I think he could be there if the Packers go Mike Mayer,

but I'll gladly take him here from the Packers at 15. Dalton Kincaid off the board for the Packers here. Matt, you have your commanders at 16, your favorite football team ever. Who do you got? I was really thinking about Kincaid here. Oh, my phone's ringing. Oh, is that a trade coming in? Oh my gosh, it's Josh Harris.

It's Josh Harris, the new owner of the commanders. Hello? Oh, yes, I am on Jeff's mock draft show. Oh, you want me to trade the pick for Lamar Jackson? Oh, let me just see if that's okay with the committee. Hey, guys, is it okay if Josh Harris, the new owner of the Washington Commanders,

tells me that I can trade the pick for Lamar Jackson? What do you guys think? Yes. I say yes. It's done. Lamar Jackson, come on to Washington. So is there a way that like Snyder says screw the NFL and just gives Lamar the biggest guaranteed contract of all time on the way out? What stops him from doing that?

Yes. I think if he did that for the NFL. There's something weird that's going to happen with this pick. They could just draft a fucking guard. Sorry, Jeff. There's there's they could just like draft the fucking guard or they could. Sorry, Jeff. Or they could or they could do something crazy like trade it for Lamar Jackson. I could also see them pick in Bajon Robinson here like they've got to put some asses in the seats.

It's just got to happen. And I really think that I really do think that the Lamar thing is very possible here. I agree. Next couple of days. I agree. In the next couple of days. I agree. So let's say that you're picking here for the Commanders, though, not the Ravens. Who are you taking if you're the Commanders of 16?

Honestly, I think Bajon is a real possibility, even though they have drafted running backs in two of the last four years. Let's make Hank's day. Let's let's let's give them. By the way, I am that. Here's the thing. Have Brian Robinson. What? Yeah, but like that.

I mean, that honestly, Kincaid was who I was looking at because of the enemy, like have a tight end. That's good situation, but I'm not going to reach for a tight end. The top tackles are all off the board yeah the quarterback is a weird spot like this is sort of a weird spot in the draft where like you know they don't really need to go grab i mean joey porter maybe like that which

would be kind of funny one pick ahead of the steelers um but yeah i just think like he's clearly the best player left and they need some excitement i think it would be robin i love this well of course i don't want to try to talk to you out of it but what about how do you think about deontay banks the maryland terrapin unlike you i have some integrity and i'm not just a pure homer so uh no he's i i don't know i just don't i don't i don't know the corner i i feel like i mean could do but the positions that that that people have a need of them, right? Cornerback, tight end, and really guard, as you said, right? You look at cornerback, Joey Porter's left, right?

So they could go Joey Porter. Just position the tight end. It's like the third, fourth corner. Right. Michael Mayer. I don't know if I see that with Eric Biettami in the offense. I think a Musgrave is more of a fit for that offense, but you're not drafting Musgrave at 16.

So they are kind of in a stuck spot. Maybe, and this is a little bit of a stretch, I'm not sure I'd draft him this high. You could draft Darnell Wright, the offensive tackle from Tennessee, and put him at guard. Guard tackle, like kind of figure it out. Such a neat pick, yeah. Yeah, so I would say probably not.

So Bijan's fine with me. Most talented player on the board still. All right, Gabe, you have the Steelers here. And what direction are you going here? Now we're getting to where Gabe's specialties, guys. The back half of the first round. This is where Gabe's best at the draft. All right.

Well, so, like, I had to do some Googling. So, congratulations, by the way, to the Pittsburgh Steelers. It turns out you do have quite a few wide receivers. I thought you might be picking someone at wide receiver here, but you're stacked at wide receiver all of a sudden. So, we don't need a wide receiver. You think you have your quarterback. Yeah, they got Alan Robinson now, George Pickens last year, and Deontay Johnson. So I had a guy I was thinking about. It made a lot of sense, but I just can't do it with those guys at wide receiver. We don't

need a tight end. Who the hell knows? Offensive line doesn't seem like it's as deep right now. I think we're going to have to do what makes the Steelers great and just get some big ugly guys who can smash quarterbacks or fill holes. Cam Hayward isn't going to be there much longer. Let's be honest. That guy's destined to be one of us. He'll have a live stream about the draft in a year or two. So I think we got to go find someone who makes sense. Jeff, I would probably want your help here, but how about this? It worked a little bit last year. I'm got to go find someone who makes sense. Jeff, I would probably want your help here. But how about this? It worked a little bit last year. I'm going to go with Kalijah Cancy from Pittsburgh. Keep him local.

Give me a big old defensive lineman. Make some tackles. Little defensive lineman. Exactly. Little defensive lineman. Yeah, he's small. Obviously, the easy cop is Aaron Donald because he went to Pittsburgh as well. But he's on the smaller side.

No, people have mocked him to Pittsburgh, so this is not a surprise at all. Yeah, you have – yes, this is not a surprise here. In fact, Dane Brugler and his most current mock has him to Pittsburgh as well. I believe Lance Zerline also had him to Pittsburgh as well. Maybe not. Well, I hope they put a little bit more thought into it than I did. I was just sort of moving around here. I'm sorry.

No, he has Canty. Sorry. Dane Brugler has him to the Lions next. But he says basically he is undersized but destructive defensive lineman comes all shapes and sizes so um i'm with you here um all right next up here what do we have on our list um hank you have the uh the lions here this is a tough one um i feel like a lot of the lions biggest needs just went off the board i was looking at dalton kincaid uh nolan smith i i i want to go michael mayer uh since they traded

hockinson away they needed side n i do feel like his skills are kind of like redundant with amon ross saint brown does really well which is kind of like the over the field not as much as a field stretcher but is another guy who could totally fit their ethos there in Detroit. And then on top of that, he's probably the safest, the highest floor pick left in this first round. So we'll go Michael Mayer, lock it in. Michael Mayer, the tight end out of Notre Dame. He's the most kind of complete tight end, right?

He's going to block and get a catch, right? Like he's the guy that you look at as the most complete tight end. So he does, to your point, kind of fit, I think, what the Lions, kind of their personality maybe more than does, than, you know, Kincaid obviously would, but Kincaid is not on the board anymore. So I like this wager. Next up here, so kind of we're starting to fly through this. Now, I'm the Buccaneers at 19.

The Buccaneers here, their needs are tackle, guard, safety, linebacker, wide receiver, kind of really looks like sort of any sort of player that can sort of help this team here. can sort of help this team here um and it's probably too it's probably early for him i i i don't know if i want to do that pick people have a much harder than i do have a much harder than i do but i just don't i i mean, look, if you need offensive linemen, the best guy left is Darnell Wright from Tennessee. I just don't have him this high on any sort of board. But there's not a lot of players left that you look at.

There's not players on a board left that you look at and you say, okay, defensive line is not needed there, really. They need offensive linemen, and he's the best guy left so if it breaks out in this direction i think you take you take you take right like you have to do it a guy that plays right tackle um for them and uh maybe goes inside at some point um you move wharfs to left tackle and you just grab yourself uh alignment here so um darn all right it's my guy he's the best wide receiver excuse me office alignment left on the board and you make it happen a position of need and he's there and a little higher than i would do but i think the bucks have to do it so that's what we go with remember the bucks remember how how good they

were how good we thought they might be a year ago, and now they're adding an offensive lineman to block for, I don't know, Kyle Trask? What are we doing down there? All right. Well, I was kind of wondering if you'd do this there. I have the Seahawks at number 20. The Seahawks, as you remember, have taken Jalen Carter already. They're feeling great, and they're looking at their options at 20,

and they're thinking, all right, so we could get a third receiver. There's still some stuff we could add to the defense. They had a pretty interesting debate at number five if they were going to take a quarterback there, and they're going to do it here. They're going to take Hendon Hooker at number 20. He's a little bit old. He's coming off the injury,

but there's not a pressing need this season with Gino obviously but that contract has a lot of outs of course yes when you when you type in hendon hooker into google the first thing that comes up is age he's 25 of course he is but we're seeing quarterbacks play till they're 40 now like this isn't necessarily you know they're gonna get him in his prime at 26, 27, 28. That's fine. Mike Tannenbaum, a smart dude, had Seattle taking him at number five and developing him and saying that this is a guy who's that kind of player just coming off the injury and the age thing scares everyone. But if he's truly that good, then why not? It's your second first round pick.

You already got possibly the best player in the draft at the fifth pick so i i really like that for them here if this is how it shakes out but that's i know that's a little bit of a surprise i don't think it's that big of a surprise if you feel like you're gino's based on a one-year deal right like we acknowledge that he's on a one-year deal and you need yourself someone to be the quarterback of the future, Hooker, two good seasons. Last year was great in the new offense with Heupel. It would make sense here. I can see them going – I don't know.

What other options would Seattle have here? Another quarterback maybe, Joey Porter, wide receiver as well. I don't dislike it, though. Again, I think at 23, the Vikings would have been in a hooker, too. We've done many draft props. I took over four and a half quarterbacks at minus 106 for the first round. Yeah, round one. I like it.

Kincaid first tied at minus 110. I've been dabbling a little bit. All, round one. I like it. Kincaid first tight end minus 110. I've been dabbling a little bit. All right, Gabe, you have your next favorite team, the Chargers, at 21. This is my favorite team. And this is a very, very fortunate position to be in right now. I know. Somehow. I know who you're drafting. We've made it 21.

We're at the 21st pick of this draft. There have been two big, dumb tight ends taken. No one's even talked about a wide receiver yet. It's crazy. It's nuts. And now I think from my eyeball test, three of the best college receivers I've seen in many years are available to me right now. Three of them. Okay? So I'm picking one of them.

The question is just which guy do I think my franchise quarterback, the guy who soon could be considered the second or third best quarterback in the league, who does he want? That's the question. So let's go through our options. Quentin Johnson, the guy who seems like the best overall options, but might have a little bit too much in common with Mike Williams in terms of size. Yes. Smith and Jigba great athlete, great, great player seems great, but also like, I don't know. I mean, can they all be perfect as every player at Ohio state in the last few years going to be a superstar? One them's got to be a bus.

They claim that he's the best of the wide receivers of like the law a Wilson one receivers. Yeah. Or the Blitnikoff winner the guy down the road. Shocker. Best route runner on there built like Marvin Harrison could be 130 catch guy every season for Justin Herbert, especially if our buddy Austin Eckler isn't there any longer. I could see them running all kinds

of wide receiver screens with him. I think that's the pick. Give me Jordan Addison, USC. How did Gaea get to pick a USC player for his favorite team? That's not, this is, if you throw this mock draft out. Bite on. I want to break character here.

I think it's a good pick. I do. I think Njipa is redundant. Nothing wrong with showing respect to an elder. Jordan Addison, let's see. Wide receiver, wide receiver draft odds. I think he would be first wide receiver drafted. It's like plus 750.

So it's a good number. If you think I'm going to be the first one here. It might break out this way. I think out of all the mock drafts we've done over the years, this feels pretty realistic. This feels like really a way it could go. It's going to be a pretty wild draft. I think if Eckler's not there, I think they're going to go four wide,

and I think Herbert's going to need little bubble screens and somebody who can just be exactly where the ball is going, and that's the dude. Oh, I don't disagree with that. He projects very favorably in the slot, I would say. All right, great. By the way, Jeff, so far you've not disagreed with any of my picks. That's a record.

Well, I disagree with your trade from the very first thing you said today. That's true. Good point. All right. Hank's up with the Ravens, but didn't this pick get traded, or what's happening? No, no, no. We're going with the Ravens.

Okay. Go ahead. Ravens are taking Deontay Banks. He grew up like 30 minutes from their stadium. He went to Maryland. He's a local kid. He's a nasty physical man corner. But then on top of that, he has crazy zone instincts.

And he's got this rep. This is a kid's show, buddy. Calm down, man. Sorry. Sorry. He's got that dog in him is what I'm trying to say. And then also, he's known to be a really good communicator. I read that he's the type of guy on the back end

who's always trying to keep his teammates in place and talk through every play. So I feel like him and Kyle Hamilton, that's just a really intelligent back end. And then, of course, Marlon Humphrey is still there. That Ravens secondary would be one of the best in the league if this pick hits. Great communicator because he went to a great school

with great education. Really good journalism. He's going to have a sick podcast. I thought I liked this. I thought I liked my school as much as you guys did, but I guess I don't like Orger as much. Wait, wait, wait. Do you guys produce this podcast?

Do I? I don't know. it kinks my boss no no no I don't know let's talk about some podcasts he did um all right so they need a corner the Ravens do the Vikings at 23 I really do think they would take a look at a quarterback here at 23 if Hayden Hooker is available but he's not he's drafted so Joey Porter Jr. come on down you're a minnesota viking they need help with corner um i i think that um they would also look at smith and jigba here uh as he's available at 23 um still on the board here i'm actually surprised he's still on the board but um i think they would very gladly take jory porter jr here um at uh at 23 to help with the secondary well that leaves me with uh i was really happy i drew the jaguars at number 24 um because you know when you look at

just how this is gone with these amazing quarterbacks that are young there's this trajectory that keeps happening that takes a team from pretty good to holy shit essentially right let's give some examples jalen hurts he gets aj brown joe burrow gets jamar chase josh allen gets stefan diggs trevor lawrence yes he got calvin ridley but now he's gonna get smith and jigba here uh in a surprising fall to him at number 24 and i think that's what they need to do i mean they obviously have some other needs but when you i mean trevor lawrence last year and those in that playoff game against the chiefs you're like who is he throwing to he's throwing to zay jones he's throwing to marvin jones who's now back on the lions

obviously the addition of ridley's huge but now you're talking about like a real top wide receiver group um I was sure I was gonna have Zay Flowers and go double Zay in the wide receiver spot for the Jags but we're very happy to get JSN here I wonder if it breaks like this the Giants don't call Jacksonville and try to move up one spot to take him at 24 in this situation because I think the Giants would like if they're at 25 with the ability to draft Smith and J, they would freak out with the help they need a wide receiver.

But obviously, I think to your point, you can never have enough of those guys. So, I like the pick. I think you can't have enough. You just can't. All right, Hank, you're

up with the Giants here. Or excuse me, Gabe's up with the Giants. I'm sorry. Gabe, Giants. can't. All right, Hank, you're up with the Giants here. Oh, excuse me, Gabe's up with the Giants. I'm sorry, Gabe, Giants. Go ahead. All right, they've been looking for their Schwartz since Big Jeff here left town. They need that guy. They just need a big, smart dude who's not going to get in trouble.

So they could go with a wide receiver. I still like Quentin Johnston. They could do it, and probably there'll be boos if they don't. But they're going to think better of themselves. Their two most important assets need a big guy to block for them. They were close last year. They could get better if they improve the offensive line. So we're going with Darnell Wright.

Darnell Wright from Tennessee. I already drafted him like four picks ago. Psych. Told you. By the way, I'm that guy in the fantasy draft. And I haven't even had nine beers this time. That's just, you know. All right.

Then get out of the way. Austin Eckler is still available. We regrouped in the Giants war room. And we're going with the more obvious choice. Thanks for paying attention, guys. We're going with Quentin Johnson. We want that big wide receiver. I love it.

Man, Darnell, what could have been? What could have been? What could have been? What could have been? Yeah, Giants need wide receiver in the worst way. Makes a ton of sense here to take Johnson. Huge frame. A little bit of issue with drops, but fix that.

And a great target for Daniel Jones to go down the field with. I love you took Darnell Wright. I love it so much. All right, next up. Cowboys. I'm up here with the Cowboys. I'm going to give them a good player which um i when i originally set this up i was gonna not give them a good player saw an episode of big boys club i think this guy's been flying up draft

boards now i'm gonna give him steve avila the guard at a tcu i think he's a good fit there played college ball in fort worth so jerry j Jones gets to save money on the moving costs. And then on top of that, what was it, Jeff? Great pooper, great farter. I feel like he'd be a good fit in the shitty franchise. What? Very good. Good play there.

He's a fan of poop. We had a good long conversation about using the restroom. Is he a bidet guy? No, we didn't talk about bidets, unfortunately. Oh, okay. Is Jeff a bidet guy? Yeah.

I would use it if I have one. I don't have one, though. What? I don't have one, though. What? I don't have a bidet in my house. How do you not have a bidet at your house? I just don't. Do I need to put one in? Yeah.

What? What are we doing here? We're 26 picks into this thing, and now you tell us you don't even have a bidet? I don't have a bidet. So I need a bidet is what you're telling me? It is the most important. I would have bet every dollar I have that you have a bidet. Because I have a urinal.

You have a urinal? I forgot you have a urinal. I have a urinal in the master bathroom. That's awesome. Are you serious? Yeah. Your wife made you get a urinal so you would go in? No, she put one in.

In the water closet, there's a toilet and a urinal. Right. Like in the middle of the night, you go in the urinal with them. Yes. Yes. Yes. a toilet and a urinal. Right. Like in the middle of the night, you go in the urinal with them. Yes. Yes. Yes. I go in the urinal. Yes. Is it so you guys can pee together?

You can go in there at the same time? No, it's so I don't pee on the seat. Yeah, obviously. But the seat. The floor. I thought it was like an efficiency thing. No, he has no idea. He's not married. He has no idea. But yeah, I have a ur like an efficiency thing. No, he has no idea. He's not married.

He has no idea. But yeah, I have a urinal in my house. It's the best thing she ever did for me. So it's fantastic. Yeah. Okay. It's super easy. You don't have to turn the light on or nothing.

You feel with your legs. It's just done. Dude, we know how urinals work. All I do is I think like once a week.'m telling you, I'm going to once a week. Father's Day, I'm going to send you a gift. That's all I'm saying. Once a week, I just pour like a gallon of water in there to flush it. Good to go.

Some ice cubes like Wrigley Field. I was really eager for the bidet conversation because I know Gabe was endorsed by bidets, but that turned into a way better conversation. That was beautiful. Oh, my God. God. So much urinal talk. We're like pick 27.

It's fine. Does Wrigley Field have the trough still? Does any stadium have the trough still? Did the old RFK Stadium as a kid have a trough? Yeah, I think so. I mean, the Wrigley one is literally like – it's like a bathtub and it's just enormous. And there's just no obstructions whatsoever.

It's just people just – No rules. Just man. Yeah, when you're a six-year-old at the Rose Bowl going pee and just like there's like 27 other men. Yes, right? You're just like, there's no walls or nothing. You're just at the trough going pee.

You're just like, don't look around, don't look around, don't look around. It's so bad. I think their troughs are still at the Rose Bowl too, by the way. All right, enough urinal talk as we get to the Bills. Oh, my gosh. The Bills need pass rush in the worst way, right? We've seen that they have just struggled to rush a passer. They have struggled.

That's why I'm a professional. It's why they've struggled to rush the passer. And I think they take Miles Murphy, the edge rusher, out of Clemson to help them rush the pass. They could take Breeze, the defensive tackle, out of Clemson as well. But then they go edge here to pair with Von Miller when he gets healthy, and they take Myles Murphy from Clemson. All right. Like it.

Let's go next up here. We uh matt you have the uh the bangles bangles yeah i was looking as you were talking not that i would have had a great report to that anyway but i was looking up to see what the what the status of joe mixon was um he's got he just pled not guilty to a charge of menacing i haven haven't looked into that a lot, but I do know that they were talking about releasing him anyway because of the speed of his contracts. He's 26, but it seems like a very old 26. I feel like he's been in the NFL forever. Piran left.

So I think they're going to take Gibbs here. I think they take a running back to replace, possibly mix in jameer gibbs is that how you say his first name yeah from alabama yeah i think that's what they would do here an offensive first strength on strength um they have if if anything happens with mixin whether they let him go or he can't play for whatever reason like they have zero depth there so i think they'd be okay spending a premium pick and now i've picked two running backs in round one this would this would make the sportsbooks a lot of money if two running backs go in the first round um it's an interesting choice they have if it breaks out like this because they need a tight end in the worst way i feel like and i just don't know if they're

going to take you know washington or kincaid here over the running back. You could make the argument that you take Washington here or Musgrave, I should say. I think it's Kincaid. Washington or Musgrave and then take the running back, Zach Charbonnet in round two from UCLA, right? But if you have Gibbs rated that high, take Gibbs and find a tight end in the second round.

There's other tight ends in this draft. It's a very deep tight end class. All right, Gabe, you have the Saints here. Pick 29. I haven't the foggiest clue what the hell this team would do with this pick. I don't know what they need. I don't think it makes any damn difference.

They are at this pick because of like 900 trades. Obviously, they aren't good. They're not drafting this late because they're good. They need something. I have no idea what it is. I haven't read the mock drafts to see what people think they want. So, Jeff, tag in for a moment here. If you were the Saints, why don't you tell

me the name of the player I should draft? What do we like here? I thought the Saints were kind of all over the place. And I think they're just going to take like best defensive linemen available. Right. That feels like what they're going to do. And the way that we have gone about this, the best defensive line available is probably Brian Brazee from Clemson. I think I called him Breeze earlier. He's the best one I think would still be left on the board because the kid from Pittsburgh is gone.

I just took Myles Murphy. They could go the linebacker from Arkansas, Drew Sanders. could go the linebacker from Arkansas, Drew Sanders. Maybe, you know, I think that's what they would do here. They would just take the best defense player. This doesn't matter. This is the worst division in football. This is the most boring team in the worst division in football. There's no good quarterbacks in this division. The winner of this division is probably going to be Baker Mayfield at 8-9. Who cares? Let's move on. I'm with you. I legitimately forgot Baker Mayfield's on the books now. It's sad.

Agreed. I have no idea. Who's up? Next up. It's me going for the Eagles again so um I got it I got a an angry text from an Eagles fan who's mad that I that I passed on uh uh Bijan for them at the 10 and he said I better give them a good player for number 30. So I'm going with, I think, a proven winner. I know Gabe will agree. This guy is surefire to be great at the next level. Howie said he wants the Eagles to be a QB pipeline. So we're getting a guy who can be the backup to Jalen Hurts and maybe incumbent starter one day.

We're going Stetson Bennett. Not only does he match jalen hurts his play style but also he's 25 and hurts is only 24 so he can be yeah you get a mentor also being a backup yeah i think it's a great fit there um and and you know he'll look great in green so let's go stetson he's a champ he's a champion yeah i i'm gonna i'm gonna uh you know i'm sure that's what the people who texted you were hoping you'd do. Way to live up to the hype there. No, they're really happy.

They're really happy right now. They're probably celebrating. They're getting choked up. Yeah, give me a real pick. We're going for a real pick. Okay. I have a real question while he thinks about that. Don't the Bills, Bengals, Eagles, and I guess maybe Chargers,

don't they all just have to draft for whatever they think it takes to win a one-score game against Pat? Isn't that the whole thing here? They're all pretty good teams. They're pretty complete. They need a one-score difference guy against Pat. Right, which is why the Bengals, yes, which is why the Bills draft pass rush, right?

Yeah. That's why the Bengals, I don't know if they go running back. They might go tight end here, right? And the Eagles, I don't know. Most have a mocked safety-ish kind of in this spot, edge rusher again. I just don't think you can have enough pass rushers and cornerbacks. Those are guys you can't have enough of. enough pass rushers and cornerbacks like those guys you can't have enough of so i think that that's the option that any of these teams would would go here is is those in that direction who would you take if you weren't kind of joking around here the easy the easy pick here is brian

branch who's the alabama safety they just lost cj gardner johnson um so he fit as a open starting spot and he's just a super intelligent player. He'll be everywhere all over the field. The Eagles play with really aggressive cornerbacks, and so having Brian Branch back there, he can slide under the nickel, but having him kind of on the back end cleaning up for them, I feel like that would be a really smart way to go. Agreed. I still want Stetson Bennett on the dock.

I want that one locked in. The Branch would be the backup. Of course you do. All right. so i have the chiefs here at 31 um i am a chiefs fan i would like my my my pick of like i'll go back the last time i won Super Bowl, they had a luxury pick, and they took Claude Edwards-Hilaire, who ended up – who's just a waste of a draft pick, right? Like, we all agree on that.

That was a dumb draft pick. They regret it. They probably wish they didn't do it. It's a luxury pick. They can probably luxury pick here and take Luke Musgrave, the tight end, from Oregon State. I don't think they will. I think what they will do is continue to draft Smart and draft pass rusher

and draft Will McDonald, the fourth, from Iowa State. He had 34 sacks and 40 tackles for a loss in his career at Iowa State. A four-year starter. Just a good pass rusher. 6'4", about 250 pounds. That's who they draft. They just draft the best pass rusher available on their board. They make it simple.

And wide receiver, which they need, there's a ton of guys in day two. You just take the best guy in day two that you have left. There's all these guys left over. And so I think they just go with Donald IV. And I think that you have left. There's all these guys left over. And so I think they just go with Wimbledon on the fourth. And I think that's the fourth. I think it's the fifth, actually. No, it's not.

No, it's a long end. It's either four or six. Which one's Stetson? If the V is after, I think it's four, right? The V is before it's six. I think Stetson and Will are both before. It's an IV. That's four, right? That's four. That's four. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. We went down to the fourth. Woo! You learn something new every day on this show. How do we feel about our draft, guys? I feel pretty good about it.

Yeah, it actually was a little more realistic than the past few years we've done this. To me, the best pick in this whole draft was Jeff at 15 with Dalton Kincaid. I think Dalton Kincaid is going to be what Kyle Pitts was supposed to be. I think that's a guy who fantasy guys are going to go nuts for. How many of these over under three and a half of these picks being correct on Thursday? Over. I feel like we're locked in this year.

I don't know. I mean, most years we kind of get a little bit silly, and I was ready for more of that. But I feel like if this is how it shook out, a lot of these teams would leave pretty happy. I don't have my notebook from – I wonder if I have my notebook from last year oh i have it right here why this the only reason why this might not be right is that i do i do genuinely think and i'd like jeff for your take on this i do think the

top five is going to have at least one deal in it i don't think that these teams want to be quite in the positions they're in and so it you know this is probably what it would be if these were the teams, but it doesn't feel like these will be the teams. Especially if quarterbacks start sliding like they did here. You're definitely going to see some people jump up and grab those guys. We'll love us and Anthony Richardson a little earlier. I found our mock draft from last year, guys.

Right here. How'd we do? One pick correct. Who was it? Trevor Penning to the Saints. And I'm not even sure if the Saints picked him at 19. I think they picked him like at 21. They didn't even pick him in the right spot. But we even get like –

We missed number one last year, yeah. Yeah, we missed number one, yeah. We have Evan Neal to the Giants. But that was pick seven, not five, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so we were – I didn't pick Sauce. I thought I picked Sauce.

You had Sauce to the Giants. You had Kayvon Thibodeau to the Jets. Who cares? But nonetheless, yeah, so we weren't close. So hopefully this year we're a lot closer. I think I had Jameson Williams to the Falcons, and they took Drake London. So I had a wide receiver. I think I had Jameson Williams to the Falcons, and they took Drake London. I had a wide receiver.

I was just wrong about which wide receiver. That's something. It counts. I didn't take Vera Tucker. Yeah. All right. In a picked at age very terribly, someone took Matt Ariza to the Lions.

Yeah. I thought we weren't going to mention that. I want to officially recant my punt god stance from last year. Thank you. No longer worthy of that nickname. We're about 40 minutes into this show.

Can you indulge me with a silly quick story? Yes. 40? This has been like an hour and 40. We're in like Damoshek territory now. That's right. We started at 10, not 11. Sorry. I was trying to place why I was like an hour and 40 yeah we're in like damage like territory now hour 30 all right so that's right we started at 10 not 11 sorry um i was trying to place why i was like why i wanted why i wanted to laugh looking at the whiteboard behind gabe with this that his handwriting on it saying the names and i was like what is this reminding me of and it reminds me of this bit we did on

katie nolan show a long time ago where do do you remember when Robert Kraft and Tom Brady kissed at the end of a game when they won a game? And we wrote on the whiteboard, Tom Brady, Robert Kraft, kiss weird question mark. And then the bit was that we, we had our,

we had Katie running a meeting and our producers, when they walked in all had to kiss each other And it was I was shooting it on a camera and we couldn't shoot it because they would get close to each other and I would Start to laugh. I was doing it. I couldn't just looked away. But when I heard someone walk in I would just start laughing I'll send it to you guys after it was Hardest I've ever laughed in my life Well, you just laughed at the hardest you ever laughed about three minutes ago. I told you how to urinal my, my,

uh, my master bathroom. I already knew that. Oh, I did not. If you ever come to Charlotte, you're welcome to use it. It's glorious.

It's a little higher though, too. It's like up a little higher than most urinals. Just feel the height difference. Um, my kids love using it. It's a great tool. It's great to have in the house.

Jeff, I'd like you to get a pre-clearance here. I'm not going to do something wild, but please ask Meredith if I sent you a bidet as a gift because I care about you and I want you to be happy. Would she allow it to be installed? What do you mean? If she says she would allow it. What do you mean? Is it an attachment to the toilet or like a physical bidet?

Yeah. You have to, it's like a whole thing you have to add to your toilet. I think she'd be fine with it. Yeah. Cause she would use it. She'd probably like it too. I've sent other friends recently,

a soda stream. This is a little bit more of a commitment. That's why I want to know what's going to get put to use. Uh, yeah. I mean, I think it to get put to use. Yeah. I mean, I think it'd be put to use. I used to have a squatty potty too.

I don't have that anymore. I'm not as necessary, but the bidet. Yeah. I would use a bidet. Yeah. A bidet and a urinal. I mean,

what, what, what more do you want in life and you're in your master bathroom? Gabe, if you're handing out bidets, I would also take a bidet. You don't need one. You're a young man.

This is a, this is for a guy. He needs Jeff. Jeff's like me. He gets his best thinking and probably most of his enjoyment out of the way. In the few minutes, he gets to sit by himself in the toilet, and now I'm going to make that experience even better. That is very true.

Also, a shower as well. I saw a picture of an Oregon football player playing in a new position on an Oregon football on the Oregon football official Twitter account I text our buddy Dan Rubenstein about it and then spent 10 minutes while I was showering thinking about the ways they're going to use this new player and then text them like 10 different things I thought about the picture I just it's not it's not healthy to think about football that much. But like one still picture of like a defensive tackle playing defensive end on a tight end got me thinking

of the different ways they're going to use the defensive end this season at University of Oregon. It's shower and bathroom. I think about football way too much. Not good. Not healthy. If we could see the people still watching the other end of this. The numbers are coming down.

Anyone who's left is just like, yes, that's correct. I also have done that. If you're one of the 14 viewers still here right now, you think about football in the shower too. So thank you guys for being here. A lot of fun. still here right now. You think about football in the shower too. Thank you guys for being here. A lot of fun. Look, guys, pretty good.

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