Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Chiefs and Bills Make Huge Trades, Geno Smith and Kyler Murray Destinations, and O-Line Twitter

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Geoff Schwartz and Matt Ford discuss NFL headlines ahead of free agency. What does the Trent McDuffie trade signal for the Chiefs' future? Did the Bills overpay for DJ Moore? Where should the best free agent QBs play next year? All that and more on this episode of Geoff Schwartz is Smarter Than You. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code GEOFF to get $200 in free bonus bets when you bet just $5. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It is Friday, March 6th. I'm Jeff Schwartz. That is Matt Ford. This is Jeff Schwartz. This morning presented by Draft Kings. The Crown is yours. Matt, I just want to talk football with you in life with you. It's been a while.

Glad to be back. I've done one of these with me and you since the Super Bowl. How you doing, buddy? I'm doing good, man. It's great to see you. How have you been? How was Mexico? I mean, I'm live betting women's college basketball at 11 a.m.

On a Friday. What can be better than that? It is the off season. We did joke about this. I mean, it's a money. I make so much money in women's college basketball. It's just, I don't know why it is, but just it's the way life is. But we're not here to talk about women's college basketball.

Next week, the league year starts, which means we have NFL for agency, which means a lot of players are going to pay a lot of money. But it also means the week leading up to it, which is now after the combine, right? Combine happens. This week is a lot of transactions, right? It is teams trying to show up their salary cap, so players are being released. And it also means players are being traded. And we have had a couple trades in the NFL that feel,

pretty seismic, which it does feel like Matt, with the younger general managers now, we get a lot more trades. When we were kids, there also was a salary cap for part of our youth. But then there's also just as it expands and there's more money involved and there's higher cap numbers and all these different ways to work things that guys have figured out new ways to do stuff. The other general managers, man, they make a ton of trades now. And it's kind of fun for us as fans to watch this happen in real time. Yeah, it's something that we see a lot in the NBA, for instance, we don't see it that often in the NFL. And now all of a sudden, this time of year, I was, I realized the other day that I think this time of year is my second favorite time of year from like the start of the season is so fun because everybody's got hope and everything's, you know, so crazy.

The Raiders beat the Patriots in week one, right? But this part of this part of the of the calendar is just so crazy. Like every time you think about, you know, what's going to happen next. Like there's already some news update. Like one second before we started the show, we were. there's news about Gino Smith. So, yeah, the trades are fun. Why don't we start there, including a big trade from your team,

the Kansas City Chiefs. They sent one of the best corners in the league to the Rams for the 29th overall pick and a couple of others, including a third rounds next year. Surprising, I think, that the Chiefs would send this guy out the door. Not super surprising that the Rams would trade a first round pick for a corner. They've done it before. but yeah, thoughts on this move and what it means for the chiefs. So it's been interesting because the chiefs have had some philosophies under Andy Reid.

A couple of them are they don't pay many guards and centers. So, you know, they've been here as 2013. They paid Larry Duminator Tardee, who was the guard from Canada. But they got them in a really cheap value. They paid Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith. Those are the three interior office alignment. they've paid in, what, 12 years now, Matt? They just don't pay interior office alignment.

The other than they do, they don't pay secondary players. They don't play corners. They don't pay the guys they've drafted and developed. I think Eric Barry is the last guy they've signed to a long-term extension in the secondary. And I think there's a couple of things for that. One is that, you know, the pass rush tends to be more important than cornerback play. Let me figure it out now in the NFL. You got to have a pass rush first and a corner second or, you know, second.

And then also Steve Spagnola, the the secondary coach they continue to develop these secondary pieces Matt each and every year and so they don't feel like they have to resign a Trent McDuffie

they'll develop the players I have on the roster and they'll use the draft picks to go get more secondary players so those two things combined I think are the reasons why they have been so willing to pay these secondary players and they got a hall man they got the first round pick this year

they got a fifth round pick and a sixth round pick, which they needed. They needed more draft capital for the season. And they got a third round pick next season. It's not a bad place to be if you're Kansas City. If you didn't want Trent McDuffie long term, this is not a bad move to make. And so I thought it was a win for them.

And I went for the Rams who need a secondary piece, who have a good roster outside of the secondary, and this will help them, I think, advance where they want to be. Remember, when they played Seattle last year, they couldn't get any stops. You know, like it was a problem of theirs. and late in games last season, they couldn't get stops on defense.

And so McDuffie helps them with that problem. Yeah, I like it for the Rams a lot. It's interesting. The Chiefs now, this is Sneed, McDuffey, and Marcus Peters, that they all sort of develop these guys and then let them walk out. They clearly have a philosophy about just the value of corners. And it's a little different.

I mean, like, I don't know. I feel like corners are one of those premium positions across the league, and then the chiefs are sort of like, yeah, no, we can just find another one, it's fine, which I think is kind of interesting. I thought that, I mean, there was a take, I'm curious what you thought of this. Like, there were some people saying that this is a sign

that maybe the chiefs are trying to reload a little bit, and maybe if this is the year of the Holmes, isn't quite right at the beginning of the season, maybe they want to get some more picks, look ahead a little bit, not rebuild, obviously, because it's the chiefs. But do you think that that's, that's a possibility that that's what this could mean,

or do you think that's an overreaction? I think the chiefs are always looking for ways to continue to build the roster. I don't think they're going to be one of those teams that sort of like rebuilds on the fly. Excuse me, rebuilds just by tearing everything. They're going to rebuild it on the fly, right? Look, Jake Laser reported yesterday that Mahomes, like, they expect him back week one, which, again, I think that feels an early timeline. Now maybe he's one of those guys like Adrian Peterson,

just a free show, who's just going to come back as soon as he can. can, right? He just breaks all the rules of rehab and recovery to get back on time, Matt. But if they think he's going to be back, right? So that means that your offense gets Mahomes back. They let go Joanne Taylor. They have a good offensive line still. They got to figure out some wide receiver help, in my opinion, and running back. Those got to figure out. Kelsey appears to come back, I think. Appears he's coming back now. You've got to get a pass rush. I mean, there's a lot of needs they have. But now you have pick 9, 29, and 40. So you can address some of those needs and you have now

a bunch of cast base that you know they redid everyone's deals so they have an ability to now attack for agency and the draft with enough capital is Trent McDuffie the difference between a championship or not? I think there's a fair question the chiefs are asking themselves and I think the answer is probably no right now right? The answer is

no so let's get ourselves some more players because look I think I subscribe to you know the idea that like you know the the the sum of the parts, you know, is better than maybe a couple superstars, right? And they've had these couple superstars. It didn't work last year for many reasons.

But we need, we need, dude, their running back room is worth in some colleges right now. They need better running backs. They need their best wide receiver potentially suspended again this season. Their second best is 185 pounds. He's going to get hurt all the time. Like, they need better players on the roster, and they weren't one Trent McDuffie away from winning a championship, right? And so if you are able to sort of,

of, okay, hey man, we get one, let's say that pick 29 and one of the later round picks end up being starters for you. Probably, and you save the salary on Trent McDuffie. That's probably a win. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the Rams might be a Trent McDuffie way, interestingly, from a Super Bowl. But that's why I think this works out very well for both parties. Yeah, I read somebody said the other day, it might have been Barnwell.

It's like a trade in the NFL should happen with both teams can't say no. And I feel like that's one of those situations here where the Rams have another first round pick still, thanks to Atlanta, a better one. And for the Chiefs, you know, they probably weren't going to pay Trent McDuffie. They're going to have to replace them this year, which, you know, might be a little bit difficult, but they've done it before. But I think, you know, nice move for the Rams. I remember just watching, you know, after the Rams lost to Seattle, everyone did that, like, screenshot of their, like, PFF mock draft. and it was just like eight corners. So I think for them, like, this is obviously like a great step in the right direction.

I think a smart move for them. You get like a top guy at the position for a late first and you have another one. So I don't know. You think the Rams are the draft king's Super Bowl favorite. I like it. Yeah. I do too. I think it makes sense.

It makes a lot of sense for that to be the case. They were close last year. But the thing that I think is, and we're going to talk more about Freidon's seen here in a few minutes, but they lose less than Seattle's potentially going to lose, right? Yep. Like, it feels like Seattle sort of just

the guy right with, we talked about it at the end of the Super Bowl, Matt. Like, what if Darnold is 15% worse next season? Yeah. Which is very likely because pretty likely. Because Kubek's gone, right?

We saw what happened with the Lions, where the Lions were just slightly worse with Ben Johnson being gone. And that's slightly worse just made them bad enough to not get to where they want to be. This feels so the Rams are, with McDuffie, with some, they're going to be better,

I think, right? Like, so that's why I think that it makes sense for the Rams to be the favorite right now. Yeah. And also the Rams, you know, everyone thought the Rams were going to lose,

like their whole coaching staff again and they didn't. Like, it's kind of interesting. Shula's still there. The quarterback coach now, the offensive coordinator's name I won't even try to say, is still there. Shield House, right?

Yeah, yeah. They like, they didn't lose. I mean, they lost the floor, but like they have, pretty good continuity. Stafford seems like there was that minute where people thought maybe his career was over. He's obviously, you know, had a great season. They'll still have, you know,

Puka and Adams, like they still have, they still have their entire team. Like, they're, they're not really losing anyone. And they're going to get a chance, I mean, top of the first round. Like, they could go a lot of different directions with that, with that early pick, or trade it for somebody else. So I think it's a very worthy for today. They are a worthy Super Bowl favorite. And a nice move for both sides. I think this one, you know, it's two smart teams trading a really good player. So it makes sense. The next trade was the one that I definitely want to dig into.

The Bears sent. Shout out my Maryland Terb, DJ Moore, and a late pick to the bills for a second round pick, 60th in the drafts. There's some guarantees that make this even more expensive for Buffalo just in how they're going to pay out the big contract that Moore signed on Hard Knocks if you're watching that season. Yeah, what did you think of this? I think this one is a bit more polarizing, I think. There is, by the way, Commander's breaking news. Jake Moody's being re-signed. Congratulations to that.

Great. I was like, please say Laramieie Tonsul. All right, Jake Moody, fair enough. Okay, so do you know who has the second highest paid wide receiver room in the NFL now? If you say Buffalo, I'm going to facepom myself. Buffalo. God. Oh.

Yeah. With the sum total of Khalil Shakir, DJ Moore, who else? Gianne Coleman. I mean, I don't even know who else is the Brandon Cooks. Who else are they paying? I mean, that's it, I think. That's not great. There are four million below Cincinnati who has like an all pro and a pro bowler.

And Dallas, who has, you know, who has a, you know, same thing, right? All pro and a pole bowler, right? The Chiefs, by the way, so the Bengals spend $63.5 million on their wide receiver room. The Chiefs are 32nd in the NFL. Guess what they pay their wide receivers? They have race and worthy on rookie contracts. And Brown, right? Yeah, and Brown. So probably, I don't know, $10 million, something like that? 9.9, yeah.

Well, it's a pretty good guess by me there. They're going to have to do something there, I think. But look, this feels like, how do you say it like you know you're bad chasing worse like it feels like you know like you're just you're trying to to you have a bad wide receiver room you're trying to chase improvements but you might have made it worse because of the contract like just it doesn't feel like they're one highly paid DJ Moore away from getting to where they need to be because look the knocks on DJ Moore are the efforts right I feel like this is a bad

team to like not give effort on like can you imagine josh allen like running around doing a jrallon and dj more look this happened with kela woodham's last year dj more just like doesn't give full effort like yeah like so i i think it in a sense they need some speed and they need they need something right you need feel good about some sort of downfield production and capability but to pay him they guarantee his money up to 2028 now in this after this trade they give him it it It, man, it just feels like the bills are chasing this wide receiver room to make it better. And I don't know if they're, to be honest with you, I just have not liked what Buffalo has done this off season, Matt. I just, you know, I hear Joe Brady talk and he talks about, like, things on offense.

I'm like, bro, you were the coordinator last year. Yeah, right. I mean, I guess McDermott can have final say on, like, roster decisions. But, like, it sounds like the things you're talking about are things that you are in charge of is the O.Z. Like, I just have not liked the, the bill's vibes, Matt, at all. maybe I'm wrong on this eventually but I they're they're going to be an early fade team I think for this season interesting yeah I think this one is like a real roar shock test on DJ more like he uh last year he had fewer receiving yards than Colston Loveland he had fewer receiving yards than

Trey Tucker uh he had fewer receiving yards than Khalil Shakir um so he was 50th in the league so whether he's a true number one or not, I think he's like one of those guys that sort of feels like he can be when he has those moments like that crazy catch against Green Bay. You know, maybe that wasn't the right offense for him, but it's a Ben Johnson offense.

Like, you know, I don't know if like, if it was, oh, I have trouble sort of like getting open and off schedule plays. Like that's not going to be any better with in Buffalo. It's a big trade and I think Buffalo just sort of was like, hey, we need obviously like a true number one. And we need a guy who can get open. And I don't, you know, maybe they found it.

But it's a pretty expensive price, you know, to pay for DJ more. The other, the question I guess would be like, well, who else could they have gotten? And, you know, I don't know. But it feels like a big swing to do early. It felt a little bit like a desperation move and a little bit like a Twitter GM move, you know, where it's like, well, we need a wide receiver. Like, who can we go get? Like, oh, this guy's like, you know, he's like an 87 and. Madden, let's go get him.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, it didn't feel like a move, like the chiefs or Rams or whoever would make. It feels like a move that a team that's a little desperate would make. And they are desperate to do something different, right? Look, the other thing that sort of the test on him is I saw people tweeting this out. They're absolutely true. It's like, people like, they got number one wide receiver. Not really been number one receiver.

Like, I mean, in name only he has, but like, like an actual production, he's not been number one wide receiver. So now you're hoping that he's number one wide receiver. I, oh, man, I just, I don't, I don't love it, buddy. I just don't like it. I mean, it's what it is at this point for Buffalo, but not, not my favorite off season so far. Let's get to Max Crosby quickly.

Yeah, I mean, this is maybe looping it back in with the Bears, because the Bears, now, I just want to point out the Bears skill players, their top highest paid skill players are Swift and Colquemette and Colquemette might not even be on the team much longer. So really interesting offense that they have there. You know what I'm going to tell you right now, I think we will be betting every Colston Loveland over next season. He's going to be probably, if I had to guess,

950 and a half. I bet he's more. He had such a huge playoffs. You think over a thousand for a tight end? Yeah, I bet. Let's see if, let me see if they have a thousand, like a thousand point five.

I think he's going to be such like, he's going to be like this fantasy number two tight end this year. I mean, they put like, all and Ron, like 1100. Like we're going to have Colston Loveland

like that number like that. Oh, this is funny. The, they already have, Draf Kings has a DJ Moore receiving yards prop and that's the only receiving yards. Yeah, please.

Uh, 725 and a half. dude 724 and a half amazing handicapping there yeah I swear I I literally have no I'm not I'm watching women's college basketball I have no idea I'm not on draftings right now um that's that's crazy bro yeah that's pretty telling like I mean everyone's gonna be hitting that over too well there's so there's it's funny when you spend so much time doing this stuff like I wonder my wife thinks to herself when she's in her her day job like I wonder what my husband's doing right now I'm just looking at it at

all day. That's like I'm just staring at my computer screen. I'm looking at stuff all day. I mean, that's, Matt, we've done this exercise, though, for five, what, five years in a row now, like we've done the, you know, this prop exercise. I can sort of guess where the numbers are right. I mean, you know, like that's sort of where, you know, that's like a low wide receiver starters around 750, 725, right? That's like maybe, remember Cup last year got to like 675. Yeah. Like that, because people hammered his under a lot. So, um, but let's get to, uh, to Max Crosby quickly here. Yeah. So, you know, the rumor is that he's, that that trade is going to happen, you know, maybe by the time people have heard a lot of this. He's definitely on the block.

There's, there's rumors that it's going to be a first round pick and maybe a second first round pick, but definitely first round pick plus another high pick. What do you think of this? I mean, it's, I'm, there's a lot of ways to skin this one, but I'm curious what jumps out to you. Look, I originally thought when they hired Kubiak and just sort of the general thought is that you would want to keep like Max Crosby in the building, right? Because of his passion, his ire to win, his work ethic. Like those are great things to have.

But the more I thought about it, the more I do think, if there's a lot of holes on this roster in Vegas, if you get it first or multiple first for Max Crosby, you have to do it. Right? You have to do it. Now, I agree. I still, I do think though that probably in any if you do it no matter what. I mean, you got to get the best you can.

But it feels like he doesn't want to be there much longer. He wants to win, obviously, right? He likes to win. He wants to win. Okay. So that's important to him. I don't know where the right place is for him. Chicago, Philly.

I'm sure Philly's going to call. You know, like I'm sure there's, you know, supposedly everyone but the Jets called this year for him. But, you know, obviously, Chicago, you know, they could use him and they have a chance to win now. And I think Crosby would fit well in Chicago with the way his attitude, his style of play. Imagine, you know, sort of pairing like the Joe Tuney offensive line, you know, captain leadership with like a Max Crosby. Like that would be a great pairing, right, on both sides of the ball.

I would do it if I was, if I was Chicago, obviously the package would be good enough for the Raiders to want to do this. But it does feel like he's on the move very quickly. I think for Vegas, like, I don't, I think for any non-cornerback, if you're getting two first-round picks, like there's maybe, what, three or four exceptions in the whole league, where if you're not, if you're getting two first round picks to just about anyone you're going to say yes, especially for them, like, if you're going to be getting Mendoza, who, you know, I think we all think is probably going to be good, but isn't, you know, this isn't Andrew of luck coming out of school, like there's some, there's some possible, you know, it's not a slam dunk.

I would think that, you know, you could maybe just have a pretty terrible defense and figure it out. And in the meantime, like, I would love to have a second first round pick to go get, like, you know, a great left tackle or something. Or, you know, a first round and a second, high second round pick to go grab, like,

a really good receiver. Like, you need to put him in a good position because, A, you have an offensive coach and be, like, we just see it with these quarterbacks now. Like, if they're not good right away, it doesn't really work out. Like, JJ McCarthy's career just, like, might be over. Michael Panics' career just might be over.

And, like, that, I mean, they were drafted two years ago in the first round. That is, that was unheard of about five years ago. Like, like you said about the young GMs, things just sort of happen quicker now. So you need to hit the ground running with your quarterback. And, like, it's, you know, you're not going to, you're not going to win the NFC West next year. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's just too many good teams.

There's too much of an uphill battle. Give yourself a chance. And I think in the meantime, you know, if Max Crosby is an amazing player for the right team he'll he'll he could be a some teams probably are max crosbie away from the super bowl but he certainly not for the raiders like and he didn't help the raiders that much last year even though he played almost the whole season so i think it makes sense again i've gone to the point where like you know i i think that um i used to i used to probably believe that keeping a guy like that is more important than sort of like trying to build your roster

in the end. But certainly, the idea is either Super Bowl or not. Like, those are your two choices, right? And if you're not going to make a Super Bowl, then why keep a guy like Max Carole? They're so far away for making a Super Bowl. Why would you keep Matt Crosby? So I'm with you on that. I think that a trade makes the most sense. We'll see who ends up being. I mean, the Cowboys have been rumored. They need a pass rush in the worst way as well. So kind of curious to see, like, who ends up with with, you know, obviously getting this player who should help anyone he's going to be with. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be back in a second.

All right, Matt, we're back here. We're going to talk about offensive line for a few minutes here. There's a Twitter beef, some offensive line signings as well, National Football League. Do you want to start with the Twitter beef? You want to start with Tyler Biotto signing with the Chargers? I want to start. Well, those are two really awesome ideas for how to start. a segment. Let's start with the Twitter beef.

And I do want to get to Gino and Kyler a little bit too. So there really is no Twitter beef, okay? This is what happened. So a college offensive line coach, there's a video posted of a drill he was doing. And it was a completely useless drill. It made no sense whatsoever. And so a bunch of us in offensive line Twitter were like, I don't get the point of this drill, right?

Like you get, there's not a lot of practice time anymore, Matt. And so you need to spend as much time as you can work. on drills that you can take to the field, right? And this drill was nothing like that. So a bunch of us were like my brother, me, my buddy Duke. A bunch of us was like, what's the point of this drill? It wasn't just us three, but a bunch of former NFL players. Like, what's the point of this drill?

And man, we got, who we got attacked? And the office of line coach of South Carolina. And look, I get it. You're defending yourself. Put out a video of like the drill that and then a piece of film that looked nothing like the drill as well. So we kind of paw on that as well. It's just so funny to me, Matt.

this is social media, and we'll talk about more social media in a few minutes too, like the idea that I said nothing about the coach, the program, the players. I just said, hey, I just think this drill is kind of useless, bro. And you would think I call South Carolina the worst program of all time with their coach a buffoon who never coached the position ever in his life. I was just critical about one thing. And it always amazed me, and it shouldn't. I've been supposed to be there so long now to see the backlash of something that

feels like not even that bad of a criticism it was just like i just think this drill's kind of useless man don't we understand it fair enough man i mean it's uh people get pretty fired up i mean i i found this i don't know if you address this after the super bowl in another show but um there's the offensive line like discourse on online is is really spicy man like the the will campbell takes were all over the place and uh after the super bowl like even Even you and Mitch sort of disagreed on, like, what the big problem was. Like, everybody has, like, different tapes on. Mitch was, it's just funny because Mitch was like the outwire on that.

Well, that's one thing, too, about this whole, like, like, Twitter thing with the offensive line thing is, is there was this office line coach. Like, and, like, a division, like, to school, who was, like, telling my brother that he didn't know what who was talking about. He's not a coach. I was like, what? What? The four-time all pro?

Like a Hall of Fame player, yeah. There's nobody's talking about. That type of stuff just blows my mind. Like, I try to do my best. to sort of stay in my lane when it comes to discussing, like, I don't really go out of my way to talk about, like, quarter, the interest is a quarterback play or defensive backfield alignments. I just talk about what I know, offense line play.

And, like, that's something I feel like I'm qualified to talk about. My brother is certainly more qualified than me to talk about it. And the backlash from that is crazy. You know, Mitch and I actually, we disagree on the Will Campbell thing. He was sort of in the minority of the way he felt about it, which, I mean, that's fine, obviously. But we were on many different, we were on two different sides on that one, which I thought was pretty interesting.

But, you know, look, we both have opinions. No one's really wrong, per se. We just thought differently on that situation. On this one, most of the entire off-in-community was in one support. And then, of course, all again, like the coaches came at us. And it's like, I'm not, we're not talking down about you as a coach or you as a person or you as a program. The drill was just, was just dumb. It wasn't a good drill.

Well, yeah. I mean, I think if you're going to post your practices online and you want attention and then you get it. that's what happens. I want to talk before we get to a few big signings and moves. Why don't we talk a little bit about the quarterbacks?

So Gino Smith was released right as we started the show. Not a huge surprise, but just wow, what a giant turn of events with him, obviously, being in Seattle and then the Super Bowl with Donald's. I don't know, do you think he's, do you think he's the starter for someone next year? Are you surprised by the move?

I don't think I'm very surprised, but I do think you might have something left. So Gino Smith is a, I'm going to put this. He's a good example of sort of like there's a crew on social media that, you know, leans very heavily into analytics when it comes to quarterback evaluation. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. And they're like Gino Smith stands. And you know this for years, but I have not been.

I've been like, do you watch like him play? I know, it's like crazy. Like it looks. And I was right. Seattle let him go and won the Super Bowl. And the Raiders had the number one pick of the draft. Yep. Like it was always this thing like, Gino Smith is a top 10,

top 10 of what? Of what? Yeah. And I feel vindicated with my Gino Smith takes. I just, I just never bought it, man. It never any sense to me the way people talked about, about Gino. I just, I didn't get it.

And I, we're doing a little, this draft is, the draft stuff's happening now with like Ty Simpson and Mendoza. And people are like, Ty Simpson, man, his film, like, through 10 games is better. I'm like, I watch my eyeballs, man. I guess we watch different stuff, different games. So I just think that I feel very vindicated at my Gino Smith takes. I just never bought this, like, the height from sort of the crowd that, you know, looks at really a lot of the numbers and maybe not so much of the film.

Every year at this, you know, as part of the cycle of the quarterbacks, there's, you know, and once in a while they work out like Darnold, but there's always this like that chunk of like a, you know, maybe bottom half of the starters, like top 30 quarterbacks that get shuffled around. Like Aaron Rogers last year at Darnold, we thought, you know, he ended up obviously way overperforming expectations. this year, you know, Daniel Jones, right? He was another one.

He's going to be, you know, he's sort of in that mix this year. It's just, it's, there's nothing more depressing to me than the fan basin because I've been there where you're like, yeah, Kyler Murray, let's do it. You know, like, Gino Smith, you know what? Like, let's go for it. Let's see what we could do with Gino Smith. Like, it is just the saddest thing about the NFL offseason every year because, like, there aren't that many good ones, right?

Like, if you've got one of these top 10, top 15 quarterback. actually feel pretty good. And then the rest of it, like, you're chasing and you have to pay so much money, you know, Gino's, you know, is going to get, like, some decent contract somewhere, even if he's a backup. There are teams that probably need him to fill space, right? I mean, there's tough that, you know, the Raiders, they're obviously not going to sign Gino Smith, but that, you know, that basically they want a veteran quarterback, right?

There's going to be someone who wants a veteran quarterback, and just the good, Gino Smith will just pop up and be the veteran firm. And look, I get his story is great. I'm not knocking his story, the comeback story, I just, I just, Matt, I never bought it, dude. Never bought it. Totally. How about Kyler?

So, Kyler is expected to be released. Maybe they'll figure out some sort of trade. Obviously, I think, you know, people are a little bit more bullish on him, but similar situation where it's just like, yeah, I don't know if this is the guy to win you Super Bowl, but he's, he's getting linked a lot to Minnesota. Yeah. He also, interestingly, could be in that sort of Russell Wilson's scenario where he's cut and he's making a lot of money and you could sign him for basically nothing.

which is pretty rare. So curious if you think, if you have any thoughts of where he's going to go and if, you know, that could end up working out for somebody. I think he's going to Minnesota. It would be pretty cool.

I think that he will be, he will be good. I don't know how good. He, so the thing about Murray is that he's a little different than some of the other guys. Like, he's just,

his physical gifts are there. It's more, it feels like it's mental, right, with him? And so if you put him in Minnesota with Jefferson Addison and Naylor, that office line, that run game, that coaching staff. You're going to get, I think, the best version of Kyler Murray.

The only thing, Matt, is that, is that, you know, JJ McCarthy is started six games, okay? He might be the worst quarterback in the NFL. We just don't know. If you sign Kyle Murray, you're giving up on McCarthy, which is fine, but that's what you're signaling, right? Which, again, you're prerogative, and maybe he's that bad. But he never got a chance, which is fun. Again, you don't, you're not guaranteed a chance, but you are a top 10 pick or was 11 or 12, something like that, right?

He's never got a chance because you're not signing Colin Murray to be the backup, right? You're signing to be the starting quarterback. And so is that, you just give up, okay, I mean, again, nothing inherently wrong with that, but giving up on that guy probably just, and it's why the GM got fired, I guess. I mean, it's just like, I guess that's what he got fired. yeah i know and i mean it's funny the other team that i would be very intrigued to see him go to potentially would be a team in a very similar spot which would be atlanta like i feel like there

are a couple teams where it's like yeah you know what kiler might be good enough for them you know especially in like a weird division like that where he could go and make some kind of run similar situation with pennix who's you know another another ACL injury he's turning 26 this year new GM, like new coach could be one of those situations where it could make sense. I think Kyler is like, I think Kyler might be a really good coach away from having a much different career. He's just never really had that chance, you know, with Kingsbury and Gannon. Like, he's just not, he's never really been put in a spot where it can all work out. It is a little alarming that Jacoby Brissette came in and turned Michael Wilson into Jerry Rice.

And Kyler couldn't unlock either him or him. Marvin Harrison for a full season. But I think that would be a fun, low risk, high reward signing. Like, you know, maybe it's Pittsburgh. Maybe it's, you know, it's one of these teams where it's like, oh, interesting. Like, they actually could make some noise. But I still would, I think I buy a little bit more stock in him. Certainly, I'd rather have him than Malik Willis.

Yes. Who's going to get the bag and everyone's like losing their minds over. Best of luck to whoever signs him. I, I, yeah. I think like 30 million a year, buddy. That's, oh, buddy. A lot of money. Yeah, that's, that feels very, very jets-ish.

Also, I think the dolphins, it seemed like they're, they're in a lot. Yeah, dolphins, yeah, too. I mean, there's, there's all these, like, quarterbacks that make me sad are going to be out there. All right, we can hit some more offensive line. Why don't we talk, Drew Dalmer, excuse me, Drew Dalman. Yeah. Retired at 27. He was a huge free agent signing for the Bears last year.

Yeah, I don't know. Like these surprise retirements, they feel like they're, I don't know. I never know what to say when they happen. Like you just sort of think like, man, I hope he's all right, but also like good for you. Like made 14 million bucks last year. Like go enjoy that, I guess. But I don't know. Like what's the right response to this?

I mean, the right response is I think that guys that retire early, there's obviously, you know, they feel like, A, they've reached sort of the end of their time in the NFL. But, I mean, it's a probably decision mentally that you're wrestling with. right you know you get the problem of your career supposedly at the age he's at just had a good season with the bears your team leader and you know if look man your heart is not into this don't do it right yeah and his heart is not into it don't do it he might to give back some money whatever that happens but like just don't do it if you're not into it he's not into it matt so just don't do it so i applaud him for walking away especially if he had to give back money maybe in a couple years or a year he feels

like he's mentally in a place that he can play football again. But, you know, if you're done and there are guys that are done, the worst thing to do is play ball, man, when you don't want to play ball anymore. I mean, you're just miserable the entire time. So I credit him for finding that strength, Matt, to be done with playing ball. It's hard to do, especially when you're in the glory years.

Again, like, he's in the prime where sort of those grown man years, right? When he's just sort of like hitting his physical peak, he should be having the most fun playing. He's making money. He's on a good football team now. He's the captain, I think he was captain this season, and the center, or maybe Tune and him were captains. Like, it's just a prime spot you want to be in.

And look, again, give him credit, man, for just saying, I'm done. And, you know, I played my career and I'm moving on. Yeah, yeah, wish them all the best. You want to do a few, a minute on Juan Taylor here, released by the Chiefs? Let's do a minute on John Taylor. And then we're going to maybe switch to some non-sport stuff here before we ran out of time. Jwant Taylor was released by the Chiefs. A couple things here.

one is he was much better than he got credit for and the blame goes to one man for the credit he never gets Chris Collinsworth who spent every Sunday for four years calling him out for moving before the snap and yes the penalties were a huge problem not glossing over that

huge problem penalties certainly an issue but much better than we give him credit for and the chiefs have a backup plan And they have Jalen Moore, which is good. And the one thing that's interesting is, like, you know, for draft, you know, people keep putting the Chiefs with the offensive line in the first round. I just don't, I don't buy that because you have what you want, you have, you have more there or just mean Jalen Moore. But Taylor's going to go sign somewhere.

He'll play again. I mean, he can pass protect, right? And people are, he can't run block. The Chiefs don't want to run the football. So why would, why do you care about that? You know, he was much better than, you know, then we give him crap. I think a two-time champion now, right? So really, he made a lot of money.

I get it. I get it. People, he made too much money. Whatever, man. Thoughts your money. I think he was worth the money. And I think that he was much better than give him credit for. Yeah.

I'm sure he will land somewhere. Really quick. Give me some teams that you've got your eyes on and then we can switch gears. There's a, give me some like most teams you're most interested in for this time next week. NFL for agency. Obviously, I, obviously, I, think, like, the Chiefs interest me, right? Because they have a lot of, like, you know, a lot of, a lot of money now because they've

been restructured. I think it feels like individual situations interest me more. Like, what happens with, uh, with A.J. Brown, right? Yeah. Yeah. Look, that's great. Free agency has changed a lot, Matt, where frequency used to be, I'll put it like. I think you used to get a lot better in free agency.

I think now Fradency is just sort of filling some holes because teams mostly re-signed their best players now. You don't get in, if not they get traded, right? You're not getting a ton of like this, we're one piece away and this is our one piece, right? But you are going to get a lot of guys that might, you know,

get a couple guys here and there that plug a little holes for you and you feel sort of much better about where you're at. But it's not like, it's not a ton of Fradence that are like, wow, man, this is like, this is like a great for agent class. So that's why the AJ Proud of the trade,

the Max Crosby trade, those things to me. Now there are a couple guys, you know, where Tray Henderson goes, certainly fascinating to me. Alec Pierce, where he goes,

certainly fascinating to me. But like you look at this top, like a list, I pulled one up. Like, that's like it of like guys. Like I'm really, where Quay Walker goes

does not interest me whatsoever. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, it's one of those years where I just don't, even Kenneth Walker. I don't know. Are you interested in?

that much where Kenneth Walker goes. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Seattle anymore. I feel like that's the story more than anything else. Yeah. Yeah. Seattle is definitely a big story. I think, I agree. I think Hendrickson and AJ Brown's a good call. It seems like he's definitely going somewhere. I think the most interesting thing to me every year is like how teams sort of see themselves. And, you know, somebody is going to go all in in free agency and it's going to be like,

oh, man, like here come the so-and-so's. Like, I'm really interested in. I'm really interested in Denver. I feel like they're a team that everyone just kind of forgot about because of how their playoffs ended. I feel like they're a team that might be like, yeah, we are like one or two pieces away. Like we're going to get, I don't know,

Alec Pierce and, you know, some other piece on offense. Like Kenneth Walker. Yeah, Kenneth Walker could make a lot of sense for them. Like, you know, they feel like a team that could feel really close. You know, a team like Jacksonville, like could they go make a big splash? You know, how it seems like. like how teams like Dallas and the Panthers and like those teams that are sort of like right there but maybe feel like they're one or two pieces away, how they sort of view themselves.

The other one I'm super interested in, like I'm getting some weird vibes out of San Francisco. Like it feels this Trent Williams thing kind of popping up out of nowhere is a little bit alarming. It just, you know, like all their wide receivers, Juan Jennings is going to leave. Like it just feels like there's just something going on there that people that they keep winning, but it just seems like with the injuries and all the change there that something's going on. So I'm curious to see how they work out this off season. I think the NFC West is going to be really different next year.

Seattle's going to lose a lot of people. Yeah. And the Rams have reloaded. So I don't know. I'm something. Do you agree with me on San Francisco? Is something weird coming out of there? Yeah.

Because I think they're sort of, I think they have to decide sort of like what they want the season. to be. Are they going for? They're not going for it. Because they're, you know, injuries play a big role in defense. If they get those guys back healthy, man, they're going to be much different defense. You get Warner back, you get Bosa back. Or they can kind of go for it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, McCaffrey, like, can you give McAfre all those

touches? Like, what's your offense look like if McCaffrey doesn't get all those touches? I know. Yeah, they're going to get Warner and Bosa back. Like, they, it feels like they could just win the Super Bowl, but at the same time, if Trent Williams goes and like a few other things happen, it's really strange vibes out of there.

All right, a couple minutes left. We're going to take a break and let everyone know that we're not talking about sports. So if you want to leave, have a great week. We should probably come back next week, Matt, on Friday to do it. If you just to recap, we'll see what it's going to look like for next Friday. But we're going to take a break. We're back in just a second, non-sports topic. I just want to talk about it.

Let's do it. All right, Matt, we're back. I spent a lot of time with social media, probably too much. social media and it's become the worst to follow any news whatsoever man and we're in a time now when there's a lot of things happening right now and I'm like I'm on right now like I what we have ruined any way to follow any sort of breaking news in this country because uh we can't figure out how to do social media correctly and we made so many changes now it's it's very frustrating as someone who's trying to follow world news to follow it on social media.

And of course, like this goes to my argument I had earlier with like people in the offensive line stuff. It's like, geez, guys, it's becoming like, I know you're more off social media now, even though you've been more political. Not really. Compared to you, maybe. Yeah. But man, it is super frustrating, dude.

Yeah. I just feel like, I feel like it's just so easy to just get your shots off. But, you know. I don't know. There's value in like just taking a beat and speaking up when you feel like there's something to say. And that's, I've sort of changed my course here because I just feel like everyone's too afraid to say anything. And it is okay to say things. And it's, you know, it's, if you're saying it with good intent and a little bit of thought behind it, like, I do think we're, you know, we shouldn't be in a world where it's like, it's just inappropriate to say anything ever. So yeah, every once in a while, I'll say something. I get pretty hot about AI these days. I'm glad you said that because the amount of AI videos that I've seen in the Middle East, Matt,

make it impossible to follow was actually happening. And because of the AI videos that we get fed all the time, I think it descendsizes us to actual things that we get fed that are real. And I just, I just, now my kids are on social media, thankfully. But look, I'm a, I'm 39. I've seen a lot of things. And I've watched the videos of things getting shot down and things getting blown up.

And it's typically like, you know, far away. Like, is someone really there or not? Your imagination kind of shield you maybe from knowing there was a person, another side of that. But an official video put out by our government blowing up an unarmed vessel, I just don't like it, man. Like, I feel like that those are things that we've desensized ourselves

to because of all the AI videos. Like, you watch it, is it real? Is it not real? And then all of a sudden our government puts out a video of us shooting down, shooting down, blowing up, whatever word you want to use, torpedoing, whatever verb makes sense to you, adjective, whatever the word it is.

Like, of what, I just don't know if that's what social media should be used for, Matt. Like, I don't think that's the proper use of social media. Like, gleefully showing our country, I'm talking about America, not from other countries, maybe it's a different podcast to have, our country,

like openly celebrating people getting killed. Yeah, it's, I think, I think that's like one of those lines that doesn't really feel like a big one to jump over. You know, I don't think that's a super hot take, buddy.

I think it's a hot take, but just like, I don't talk about it very much, but I don't know very much. I think it's, I think people need to say these kinds of things in, like, you know,

when they get the chance to, because I agree, I think it's a terrible, message to send the next generation of people, the rest of the world. And that's, you know, that doesn't represent, I think, how most Americans just wanted to go through their day. But, you know, I guess if the alternative is showing a guy working out in a sauna wearing blue jeans, then, you know, then that's, that's, if those are your two choices, you know, it's not a lot of great options. You know, again, my kids are on social media like that. But like, I couldn't imagine them

opening up a social media, you know, and seeing an official. government you know entity putting out videos of us sinking ships and blowing people up like that that feels like if you if you want to search that out there are accounts that you can find that on right

there certainly counts you can find that on if that's what if you want to see that you can do that but like the official government stuff man like the gleefulness which with we're killing people again look war is what it is man we're adults here we know we know what's happening but it just feels so gleeful man it's gross dude yeah i think there's just you know when we consume all of our news it's sort of independently

there's not you know most people aren't watching or reading the same thing it's these custom algorithms that are designed to keep us hooked to the to the thing that we're reading them on like everything just feels so like separate you know like this is a real thing like there's there's like there's like There's Americans and non-Americans who have already died in this war. Like, I don't know, sometimes the phone just, I have a theory about Tesla drivers. That because they, the Tesla feels like you're playing a video game. Like, you've got the screen. Like, it's sort of different.

It doesn't feel like a real car. The people drive worse than Tesla is because it feels a little bit make-believe. I kind of feel like that's what happens with their phones and social media. It's like, you just see all this stuff and it feels like, oh, like this is just like something I'm watching online. Like, it's not a real thing. It's like, no, this is real. Like, this stuff is happening. But the good news is, man.

It's because, like, you see all the AI stuff, right? So it doesn't feel real a lot of the times, right? Because you're like, oh, this is clearly AI. And then all of a sudden something pops up that is real. And you're like, that's a real video. It just, I don't know. The AI thing, I don't know what to do about it, man. I mean, it's not good, man.

But look, it's only 7% of the country is on Twitter. So all the stuff that we see and just warps our brains like most of the world isn't seeing. As the kids say, We should touch grass once in a while. And, you know. It's 80 degrees here in Charlotte. I'm about to touch grass right now. I'm going to lunch outside.

I think we're sitting outside. I was like, not in the sun though. Just outside's fine. No, I don't need the sun on my back or my face when I'm eating a sizzling hot fajita. We're going to eat some Mexican food right now. So,

um, all right. That's our, that's our non sports segment. Um, I don't get off my chest. Just need to say something about social media. It's starting to frustrate me a little bit. Like just,

and I feel like, again, like I could tweet. this stuff out but who who's listening like i it just feels like they're gonna get you they counts that are gonna go after you it's just like not even worth it so doing my podcast you can leave a comment if you'd like i'll read them but uh we're back uh next week with a free agency recap buddy uh have a good weekend i'll talk to you next week see you buddy see buddy