Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Chiefs Rebound Ravens Collapse Cowboys Packers Thriller Ducks Big Dub

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Former NFL lineman Geoff Schwartz and co-host Gabe Goodwin break down the wild Week 4 slate across the NFL. They dive into the Ravens’ struggles and Lamar Jackson’s injury questions, the Chiefs’ offensive rebound, and the chaotic Cowboys-Packers overtime tie. Geoff explains the Chargers’ offensive line collapse, debates the Rams’ legitimacy, and reacts to AJ Brown’s diva moment in Philly. The guys also touch on the Steelers’ surprising AFC North lead, the Jets’ discipline problems, and the ever-controversial “tush push.” Then it’s on to college football: Oregon’s huge win over Penn State, Dan Lanning’s rapid rise as a top coach, and why James Franklin still can’t get it done. They close with a top-5 NFL power rankings, a smelling salts debate, and even a quick World Series prediction. #NFL #DRAFTKINGS #CHIEFS 00:00 – Cold Open & Intro 02:26 – Lamar Injury & Ravens Struggles 07:05 – Harbaugh on the Hot Seat 09:43 – Chiefs’ Offense Rebounds 12:01 – Cowboys vs Packers OT Chaos 16:10 – Kicker Talk & Prater Story 22:05 – Rams Rising 25:19 – Eagles Drama (AJ Brown) 29:29 – Steelers Surprise Start 32:40 – Jets Woes & Fake Tush Push 36:23 – Redrafting 2024 QB Class 38:14 – Chargers O-Line Collapse 43:44 – NFL Top 5 Rankings 45:30 – Smelling Salts & World Series Picks 48:12 – Oregon Beats Penn State Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, welcome Jeff Schwartz to Smart News. This episode, Joshmore Smart News, presented by Draft Kings, Draft Kings, The Crown is yours. Today is Tuesday, September 30th. I am Jeff Schwartz alongside Gabe Goodwin. I am proudly wearing my organ ducks shirt today. I don't see Gabe's USC shirt on. We'll talk about some college football later.

We'll talk about Minday football, I think barely. It will be acknowledged that games were played. Things happen that will cover the rest of the National Football League and college football stories at the end of the show. as usual. Gabe, how you doing, buddy? Well, I mean, you already brought it up, and I would just tell you so that you can laugh a little more. I completed the like the rare fall trifecta, quadfecta, whatever, like a huge parlay of losing for me this weekend. I've got stomped in some kids sports, USC, the Chargers,

one of my fantasy teams, most of my bets. and the Mets were eliminated. The Mets. I was hoping you get to the Mets too. Yeah. Really just nothing but L's this weekend, Jeff. Yeah. So you're still into the Mets?

We're into the Mets still out of all your childhood teams? For a couple days of year, I am, and this was the weekend. And nope, that was an L. Chargers and Mets just both going down at the same time. We'll talk about the Chargers because their offensive line is an actual concern and worthy to talk about. My baseball team, by the way, went 81. The Giants, the most perfect record of all time because they're the boringest team in all sports. And just be interesting.

Either be really bad, we get to laugh and mock you or be good, obviously, or give me some hope that you're going to make the playoffs. 8181 is the most boring result of all time. This podcast, though, will not be boring today, Gabe. Where would you like to start? Well, I'll start with the only thing I did win in my other Fantasy League. I won for sad reasons. You know, I don't take any pride in this. but Tyreek Hill going down with a very real and very nasty injury.

Actually won probably a lot of people their league. So that one was real. I don't think we should talk about the team on the band list that he plays for, even though they beat another team on the band list, who I used to root for. What I would like to talk about is a different injury to another star player, where the takes appear to be that guy's faking it. He just didn't want to play in a loss to the chiefs.

Lamar Jackson, I don't know if that's a lot. a fair critique, but he has a hamstring injury that a lot of people are questioning. What do you make of that? And then we'll get into the chiefs and everything else. Well, first of all, it's hierarchial injury is like as gross as they come. You know, knee dislocation. And the thing when you dislocate anything, I've had dislocated my big toe and my ankle, not fun, is then, you know, it's everything around it, right? Like the knee itself is like, quote, quote, fine. But then it's the artery and the nerve and the knee for that specific injury.

all the ligaments around, they announced an ACL injury already. I'd imagine the LCL's not doing well. I mean, right, when your bone moves like that, everything around it tears. And at his age, devastating injury, right? It's one of those that might be career ending for him. So we hope him well. I think he had surgery this morning,

but just as gross as they come. It was, I'm glad they didn't show the replay of it. Thank you for once. The telecast didn't show gross replay. As far as Lamar, man, this is interesting, right? Because is the argument that he, essentially could have played but didn't because they're losing. I don't think that's wrong, Gabe, but that doesn't mean he quit, right, in this game. If you have an injury, which happened, right?

Jackson Dart, heard a hamstring, came back in. The game was close, right? When Lamar got hurt, his team was playing terribly. And the Ravens probably just said, you know what, man, like, it's not worth it. I think they were down two scores, middle third quarter, maybe it was three scores at that point, 27 to 10 maybe at that point. And I understand them saying collectively, like, we're done with this today. It's not going to work today. Our defense is so beat up. We cannot lose Lamar.

Do I think that, like, if the game was 21, 21, he would have played? Probably. But that doesn't mean he quit. Like, the takes of him quitting on the team to me are a little bit aggressive, considering that I think a lot of teams in that situation would say, hey, like let's be done with our quarterback who's a little beat up and the office is not clicking. We're not winning this game. We have a long season ahead of us.

We're one and three. We need Lamar to be healthy because the rest of the team is so beat up right now. So do I think it was him deciding like I'm healthy? I don't want to play anymore. I quit in the game? No. Do I think it was a mutual decision of like let's hold him out for precaution? Yeah, that to me is not quitting, Gabe.

Okay. Thank you for explaining that. So you're saying basically had it been the other way around and the other quarterback in it, rare scenario where the Ravens are up a few scores against the Chiefs. If that happens with Pat, they make the same choice and it's not even a headline. Nobody's calling them a quitter. They're making a smart choice to prepare for next week. Yes, but look, again, the situation matters, right?

Like if the Chiefs are healthy as a group and they're down 2710, they probably think, let's get Mahomes in the game and let's just try to make a comeback. Because Mahomes just stay in the pocket and throw the ball. The Ravens, though, they knew they weren't going to stop the Chiefs. Like, that's what it was in that game. And so, but, like, the thing, too, is that we have no instances previously of Lamar quitting. Like, you know what I mean? So that's why it's so silly when you go see a guy who competes the way he does and puts his body on the line by running the football the way he does, his competitive spirit.

Like, just to claim he quit in this game, look, the body language of Baltimore is bad. And that might be a part of the reason why we're even talking about this is some quitting is because the body language. but you look at the sideline and all the cameras they showed, pan in the sideline. The body language is bad. It's bad all around, and it's bad because they're not good. They're making a ton of mistakes on offense,

and their defense is so beat up. They can't compete. I mean, they're down six, seven, eight starters right now, Gabe. And the margin for error is so small. You throw interception, you fumble a ball. Like that game is over. And the older players know that on that team. It's such a departure from what the Ravens had been for so many years.

I get the frustration. that they show on the sidelines, but again, for body language, it's not great. Like, things are going poorly in Baltimore right now. Okay, so they've lost seven of eight to the chiefs who will spend a minute on coming up. I mean, we've sort of touched on Coach Harbaugh

a couple times this season, but we kind of gave them an out, like, well, that was a tough hand or a while you had injury. I mean, are we getting to the point where probably no more excuses? Like, this is not, this is a coaching problem.

If the whole team looks like that and they're getting beat, bad by every contender they play. Like, yikes, right? I mean, yeah, it's a couple things. I think it's fair to note that their schedule just sort of did them no favors, right? You play Buffalo, you lose by one, you play the Lions in a physical game, and you go to Kansas City. But that's the National Football League, right? And you have tough schedules. You have to just suck it up. But they front-loaded their schedule. I mean, they took on three Super Bowl contenders in the first four weeks.

Correct. But the Chiefs also have the Chargers, the Eagles, and the Ravens. It's not like the Chiefs had an easy schedule, right? I mean, this is the National Football. You have a first place schedule. You're going to play tough opponents. The hard about thing, like the thing to me is like the injuries, right? You just keep having injuries.

I don't know if that's anyone's fault per se, maybe just bad luck, but the injuries continue to pile up in Baltimore. And, you know, for example, like the Chiefs just have been healthy for all these years. I don't know if Andy Reid does things differently at practice. than Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh does, but the injuries continue to be a problem in Baltimore. You know, the offensive line and the way they play against Kansas City, they can't figure out the chief pressure.

It's been this way for years now. And this was the game, Gabe, to catch Kansas City, right? They're not playing their best football. They're a little bit down. You're the favorite, two and that point favorite in Kansas City, which is a rare thing to be. And Baltimore just didn't show up. And again, because the defense is so beat up,

you have no margin of error in offense. a couple turnovers like that was it the game was over. And the Ravens did the thing that happens against Kansas City where they just don't run the football after they get behind in a game. And I understand, again,

most of the time I'd argue that you should keep running the football no matter what when you play Kansas City. But the teams run defense is actually good. They do that really well. And then you get down and it's just like that's the end of this.

I mean, Derek Henry had eight carries. Justice Hill had three. They didn't have a lot of plays. They only had, what, 33 pass-tumps and 17 rush attempts, so not a lot of plays. So 50 plays is not a lot in the NFL. Again, because the chiefs just shoot up clock. They were third down.

Chiefs were not very good. Five of 15, but they were four for four and fourth down. So the drives kept going and going and going. And just weren't a lot of plays for the Ravens to be had. Pat put up Pat numbers. We haven't really seen that many games like this in the last couple of years. They've won plenty. It's always been spags that kind of gets them there until the playoffs.

Is this just one of those things where Pat's got it, and if he wants it bad enough, he can do it? Or did something change in the offense? Is the best the offense has looked at arguing in years, right? So I think a couple things we saw in this game. And I tried to tell you, like, just give me a wide receiver back. Let's see what they look like with Wordy back. And he played really well.

That moves obviously like Thornton down a spot, brown down a spot to whether or not the number one target. It allows a little bit of freedom for Kelsey to make some play. is because they're eyeing Xavier Worthing now and Thorne and whatnot. But two, Gabe, the offensive line has played well the last couple of weeks in Kansas City. They're starting some young guys on the left side. They're playing better. And one thing you notice, and again, the Ravens don't have a lot of pass rushers.

Like, yeah, Van Nuys out. Mattabook is out for the season. Like, it's a problem. But they protected Patrick Mahomes. And he looked very comfortable of being protected. And all quarterbacks do that. But sometimes it just needs a couple of drives of confidence. And the ball just started getting let loose.

throwing the ball deep, taking chances, letting his wide receivers make plays for him, and it looked like a real functioning offense for really the latter part of the last three quarters of that game. And I know the pushback is always, Gabe, that, oh, they played a beat-up Ravens defense. And I always say what I say, right? You should play well against a bad defense if you're a good offense. It's very simple, right? You should.

You should. If the Chief scored 17 points, that would be a problem. score 37 though because they're again they should play well against a bad defense so look it's a chiefs are two and two now they're one back in the division which is wild after the first couple of games when we thought they would never be in this spot and you look around the rest of the division and you look at the broncos right now and you look at the chargers and the raiders are not going to win the division and the chiefs are right back sort of where they were to start the season they're two and two but they're just a game back in the division with what my math is

correct 13 games left still yeah The division is very winnable. I want to spend some real time on the Chargers in the line. You teased it earlier. Before we get to that, though, I think we have to go to the other huge, big, marketed game of the week that really, frankly, screwed up a nice evening. I had planned I was going to watch a couple episodes of something on Netflix.

Out here on the West Coast, we got a nice chunk of time after SNF ends. But not this game. No, no. This game had to go on between the Cowboys and the Packers. the Micah Bowl had to go on until forever, only to end in the most anticlimatic ending I've ever seen. And Mike Tariko even sounded bored as that game ended 40-40 on a kick at the end of overtime.

Is that game sort of just who these teams are that like, wow, cool, you're exciting in spurts, but like we don't have to take either of you seriously. Is that where we are now with both those teams? Dallas has the number one offense to the NFL yards per game and the worst defense in yards per game in the NFL. I'm so sorry, Gabe, I'm so sorry you had to stay up until 915 to watch a football game. Incorrect, I had to start Netflix at 915, which cut it into my...

Futs and prayers. I wanted to watch two episodes of Black Rabbit. I only got to get to one. What show Black Rabbit? It's good? I need some shows to watch. It's Jason Bateman just doing Ozark, but with long hair. Hmm. I once sat with Jason Bateman.

I told you this. At Madison Square Garden, there's like a, like a, like a, a restaurant for like the celebrities that go to the games and when I was playing for the Giants I got to go in that room to have dinner before a game and they would take us their intermission of hockey and so I sat with them like a table for like 15 minutes once and just shut you know just like talk sports I don't know it's random did he know sports yeah he knew he knew yeah you haven't told me this story oh I have yeah he knew enough about sports yeah we just look and then we walked the elevator and went back to the game and never saw him again so that that

the story about meeting Jason Bateman one time. Did he sound like he sounds as every character he plays in real life, or did he have a different voice? It seemed pretty normal, like just normal guy. I don't remember his voice. He has that way of talking. Yeah, I think it was more normal. I would say more normal than his character he plays.

But, you know, I have Tuesday night and Wednesday night to basically watch, Tuesday night to watch Netflix. That's only not I have during the week because of football. So I need to add a show. I can't watch enough of my wife's stuff. I need to watch so Black Rabbit, I'll do that. And I don't even know where we were at. We were talking about, oh, the games.

I went to sleep. Packers, basically. I went to sleep. I went to sleep. I was shocked when I woke up. It was 40 to 40. Overtime tie. I couldn't believe it.

The Packers defense is disappointing, man. Yeah. I'm kind of, the Cowboys offense has played well. I get that, but they're missing offensive. they don't have a dynamic running back. They are missing their best wide receiver, and they got whatever they wanted. I did this on my Bear Beds podcast.

I'll pull up now. I mean, no, I'm sorry. I did with Dave yesterday, I think it was. Like the drive chart at the end of the game, you know, needing a stop, the Vikings, I mean, the Packers needed a stop, and they didn't get a stop the entire second half of this game.

And it's real concern. You know, you look at that offense. It's played well this. year, you know, outside of really the Browns game. But, you know, the end of this game, like, it went, Packers scored to go up 2016. Then the Cowboys scored, the Packers, the Cowboys, scored, the Packers, the Cowboys. Like, they allowed one, two, three touchdowns in a row in third and fourth quarter trying to gather with a win. And so to me, the concern for the defense that was supposed to be better this season, I get the Cowboys that play well in offense,

but that was surprising to me. Maybe it's a one-off game. You just ran into a buzz off of a Cowboys offense. You didn't have the Jews to defend them. Because look, the Packers pulled against the lines on defense, right? The lines right now are unstoppable, and they were stopped against the Packers. So the defense, though, does worry me. Yeah, and also you play all the way to the end of OT, exchanging blows the whole way through. You're going to get a big score.

I was mostly just disappointed that the game came down to a kicker and ended in a tie. I mean, that's, I don't know, strike three is right behind the corner of that. for two in my book. Listening to broadcast of the NFL when kickers are about to kick is so interesting. So every week it's like

Jeff Schwartz career high, 55-yarder, their attempt to a 64-yard kick, never made it before right down the middle. New career high for Jeff Schwartz, 64-yard.

These guys are bombing kicks, Gabe. It's too much. They're too good. I remember, I'm not going to the NFL. John Casey was our kicker. Well, I mean, 45 yards was like pushing it.

Then in 2012, Blair Walsh with the Vikings, he made 10, 50 yards, I think, that year, first time ever. Like, you just, and it became now where Aubrey and all these guys, I mean, they're making six-yard kicks with regularity. You know, I'm glad that normally I hate talking about kickers. In fact, always I hate talking about kickers. But I just realized, we're about three weeks overdue for you paying off the Matt Prater story. You teased a great story. You didn't actually tell us the punchline on the show. The people who like this show and listen with some regularity are probably like,

what the hell did Prater say to that guy? So are you ready to tell it? Are we just going to keep drawing this out? I don't want to make it too big. We were in, well, okay. We were, it was a preseason game. I'm sitting the sidelines. Prater is a funny dude, man.

It was a younger team. So we were kind of the older guy, so we got along decently well. And he comes up to me in the middle of the stadium, early first quarter. And he's like, hey, he's like, he's shorter. So he's like, come here, Schwartz. Like, like, lean down. And he goes, hey, how's it feel to have the smallest, smallest penis in this entire stadium? And I laughed uncontrollably game for like five minutes because it's not like a, it's not a grand joke.

But in the moment of like, hey, come here, come here. Come here. how does it feel to have the smallest penis in the stadium? It was like the funny, dude, I laughed so hard. I also have very toilet sense of humor, but I saw it was the funniest thing I'd heard in a long time in that situation. You're in middle training camp. Like, I just did not expect that to ever come out of his mouth,

and it was incredibly funny. Also, I mean, I don't know how Matt Prater compares to other kickers, but he would be one of the smaller men on a football field. You are one of the larger men on a football field. takes a bit of balls, frankly, to make that joke to you. I mean, it just was, it was so good. It's like, come here, come here. I'll tell you something.

How's I have a smallest penis in this whole stadium? So good, dude. So funny. I don't remember many, like, I remember some other things that were funny. Like, I did this field goal one time where we were getting ready to, I forget what, I think it was, I think it was on the Chiefs this year. I forget what game it was. We're getting ready for a field goal.

And like some of the, so there's different forms of like shit talking, right? Excuse me, my language there. Like, there's like actual anger. Like, you know, there are guys that like actually like dislike each other during the game. And there's like back and forth. Then there's guys that sort of just talk to talk. Like I, and my philosophy was if someone was going to talk shit to me, I didn't take it. I never started it.

But I wasn't taking it. I was going to come back and we're going to go at it. And there's also guys just like to talk. Like just like the talk all game. I was watching last night too. There was a play where Jamar Chase got tackled by the. the Broncos lineback and they just started talking to each other.

I didn't even know if they knew each other. But this guy's just like talk all game, right? Those guys were fun to play with. And there's guys sort of just like to do that but also are funny at the same time. So we're getting ready to do a field goal. I think we had a TV timeout or something. So we're all just sort of like standing around

about to do the field goal. I'm on field goal. The other guy's on defense. And he says to one of our line, I don't even remember who it was. Like, hey, so and so. You know we have a dental plan with the NFL PLPA. And the entire group is like everyone's laughing. And then we snapped the ball while everyone's

laughing. Like it just continued to go on the laughter. In the middle of this play, we're just giggling to all of us. Offense alignment, defense alignment are laughing the entire time. It's a stupid joke. Like your teeth are fucked up, dude. Go get them fixed. That's as simple as it was. And we laugh the entire snap. Like we're in the middle of like, I'm trying to brace myself for field goal protection and we're just like crying laughing. It's like stupid. So how dumb is that joke? It's so completely dumb game. But the middle of a game, it was just the funniest thing, man.

We laughed. The entire group laughed. Offensive line, defense aligned. We all were laughing as the ball was snapped. So I don't understand why the broadcast doesn't do more to point this out. Not the literal jokes. I mean, we're not going to have microphones on every player and every snap. But that's clearly happening all the time.

And guys who call, you know, football professionally know it. And like, why are we meant to take this so seriously all the time? if you guys aren't even taking it seriously. But it's also like the timing of like, like we were getting like again, it was sort of a TV timeout. We were in our stances, but not really. We're kind of just like lolly gagging. And then as we get in our stance, he says like, hey, so and so.

I don't even know who was again. It's like, hey, you know the NFL PA has a dental plan. It's a, it's just like the timing, like the Prater thing. Like if that would happen, if Prater told me that joke in the middle of an important game, I would have been like, screw you probably. But it's a preseason game. it just was like the perfect timing for that. Middle training camp,

like you kind of need a laugh like that. And yeah, I mean, I think part of that is just hard to capture and also, I don't know, like you just, you have to be part of it,

I think, to get the joke. I don't know if it'd be that funny if they just aired all those jokes all the time. No, and I guess that's what, you know, they do at NFL films.

They give us the cleaned up version a couple weeks later. So let's talk about the Rams because they're also in the NFC. So I'm basically taking away from everything you just said pre-prater joke. The Packers are good, but we just don't know how good the defense is. So we're not ready to saint them yet.

The Rams, meanwhile, pretty quietly, are just that team that keeps on winning. They obviously lose in the weirdest way possible to the Eagles. Otherwise, they're four and no, but now they're three and one. They seem like a complete team, but make me smarter about the Rams. The Rams were my pick to win the division and make it to the conference championship. championship game. I think they're very good team. And it started slow in week one because Matt Saffert did not play, you know, in the preseason. So it makes sense that week one was slow. They should have beat Philly. It didn't happen, right? And then of course, it's funny. Like they didn't cover against

Philly and then Schenna covered against the Colts but ended up covering. Can I tie something in Gabe? Yeah, but just don't say Colts, please. We banned them. No, no, no, no. We're talking about the Colts. I, uh, I feel forward. I grew up in Los Angeles, right? And I got to listen like Vince Scully and Chick-Curne call games, like Lakers and Dodgers. And like I've always liked play-by-play guys. I don't know why. I don't want to be a play-by-play guy,

but I've just enjoyed good calls. Like Joe Davis is incredible for the Dodgers. He does great for baseball. Like as we get into the postseason, like I love listening to calls. I'll tell you one, I love listening to the Spanish language calls. And there is one of two-two outwells touchdown to end the game

by the Rams, the audio guy, who is, it is unbelievably good. It's so much better than anything. anything that we do. And I just want to give it shy. You go to it's on, I saw it on TikTok wherever it was. Maybe we could post a video of it on the show. Gabe, it is so good.

I even showed my wife who liked it, who doesn't like sports at all. Why can't we have some of that passion in our calls on our radio calls in this country? I wonder if our English language soccer calls in Europe are equally passionate. I don't think so. Like he did this entire like two two at well thing. It was so good. So I just want to give a shout out. I don't know who it is.

I just came around a TikTok. It's fantastic. The Rams are good, man. Look, they're well coached, check. Young hungry defense. Check. Quarterback, who's good. Check.

And the Pukunakou has a billion freaking carries. I've seen a billion receptions now over the weeks. And look, in Devante Adams. Like, oh, we got a, one of you got a shout out. Troy Santiago. That's the Rams, that's the Rams, Spanglish language announcer, incredible call. Unbelievable. So I thought the Rams are going to be good, Gabe.

They're proving me right so far. I've been wrong about other teams. And the Niners are so beat up right now. I might look to back the Rams to win the division. I think we have that already in pocket. I might hit it again. We still have like $500 to work with between Matt and I for some of these wagers. Okay.

Well, sprinkle a little more on the Rams, perhaps. The only team that's beat them are the Eagles who are undefeated and obviously look like the top team in the NFC. but, you know, look, I try not to make too much out of these goofy, you know, things, athletes tweet in the heat of the moment, but A.J. Brown sending cryptic tweets basically saying like, whatever, they don't throw me the ball, and I'm annoyed, but I'm not going to say I'm annoyed, but he's obviously annoyed. Where is A.J. Brown on the, like, all the guys who play that position are divas, and, like, no, this is a problem. Um, when you win is not a problem when you lose.

It's a problem. That's the way it's always been. So they continue to win. Dude, they've won like, what, 20 of last 21 games? I mean, they're at the level that the chiefs were for a couple of years. And I don't think they get the credit for being as good as they've been. They just play good football each and every week. And Browns have to get over himself.

It's that simple, right? You want the ball more. Okay. Some games, you go two games ago. We got the ball a ton. This game you didn't. You won pretty convincingly. I know Tampa Mountain will come back there late.

But these guys are going to be divas, man. Look, wide receivers game, it's a very me position, right? You run your route by yourself. You try to win by yourself. And your success then relies on a quarterback giving you the ball. So all this me, me, me, me, me, and I'll get the ball. I can't shine. I can't get paid.

I can't do what I want to do. And so I understand the frustration for not getting the ball, but we can't do this every week. We can't do it every week. We can't pout every week. Especially after the week again, we had a great game against the Rams two weeks ago. Yeah, I don't know, because in my job,

making shows for the last 20-something years, like if everything goes right and the show's a good show and like I kind of just get to sit back and a host does everything they're supposed to do and all the graphics and video look good on air and there's no technical problems. Like that's a good day for me. Like I'm not like, man, I wish I'd been more needed more of the time.

I'm like happy to take an easy one. I don't understand other than the idea that you need the stats to get paid. Like he's got a contract and everyone knows he's a top 10 guy in the league. Like what's he worried about? Good question. So far today, you've been in the office for 40 minutes. It's going well so far. Good start to your day.

So thank you. Yeah. It's going great. Hank's got it all. Let him. Ram his head, Tush push style into the V-Mix that powers this thing. I don't need to be doing that.

I also, um, you guys are doing an awards show, correct? Oh, that's right. Good plug, Jeff.

The Ducky Awards. Um, how, do I, can I nominate people? Yeah, I would love for you to nominate people. What are the award, what are the categories?

We got a lot of them. There's, uh, there's some of them are, uh, here's one that you might like. You ready? And then we'll get back to some football.

Uh, we'll take a quick break. talk about a guy we don't usually talk about, but one for you, the four over 40 award. Okay. Are you there yet? Have you hit 40 yet, Jeff? No. July.

Yeah, you're not eligible. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm up for awards. I thought this is, I thought Matt told me it's for behind the scenes people. Yeah, it is, but I'm just telling you that's the kind of award I thought you'd be interested here. There's, the industry has the 40 under 40. It always recognizes these youngs.

I'm saying no, screw that. We're recognizing the old. Wait, how many people are above 40 that work in your office? And that's not for my company. It's for the whole industry. Oh, I thought this is more for, oh, it's, okay, I thought it was like more for just your company. Buddy, we, this is going to be similar to an Emmy before long. Oh, oh, this changes.

Okay. Oh, this changes a lot of things. So four over 40. Yeah. The top, the top four producers over 40 are just general media members over. 40. No, no, you got to be sort of at a certain level. I don't want suits. Right now, we got competition, Jeff. There's other podcasts out there on a Tuesday talking about the NFL. Somebody's got to make that show behind the scenes. Some of those people are over 40. We're ready

to acknowledge those people. It's not all a bunch of kids scrambling around on TikTok, Jeff. Great, great plug. Okay. Now I know what it's about. I thought it was just about from your company. I thought that was, okay. So everyone, anyone in the media industry, Okay. Yeah, and I'm going to even do a segue here. Maybe I'm 40 over 40 eligible. Oh, you are? One of our fellow guys wouldn't call him a behind the scenes guy.

In fact, he's always in the spotlight, Aaron Rogers. He could be a 4 over 40 type guy. And I think the day has come that we need to speak about him on this show. We will do that, Gabe, in just a second. So video viewers, don't go anywhere. If you're listening, we'll be right back. We'll talk about Aaron Rogers. I guess that's the time has come.

All right, Gabe, we're back. Pittsburgh is 3 and 1. They have forced five turnovers against the Patriots of 1 by 7 and forced 2 against the Vikings of 1 by 3. They're plus 7 in turnovers. They're 3 and 1.

They are still about plus 250 on Draft Kings to win the AFC North despite being two games up on the Baltimore Ravens. Aaron Rogers is sort of doing what he has to do. He threw that,

ball three yards. D.K. ran the next 70, but he's not making mistakes. He is moving the ball down the field, and Pittsburgh is doing the voodoo they always do, and I don't understand it because no one other team does this every single season. Yeah, and with the Ravens' loss,

I didn't know plus 250. That feels like you got to bet that, right? Is there any argument against that? Well, the argument is that the Steelers have started fast for years now and then just like take a nose dive. But They finish above 500 every single year of Tomlin's whole life.

So that division isn't going to get won by you don't need 14 wins to win the AFC this year. So right now, as of now, because I looked at this yesterday, they play in the AFC North, correct? It is plus 200, come down a little bit, plus 200 to win the North right now on Draft King. So it was about 250s, 270 yesterday. But are we saying the Ravens are a contender? Anyone listening to the top of this show probably doesn't think that right now. Yeah, I know, but like, what if the ribbons get healthy?

They're running out of time. I mean, we're a quarter of the way through the season. I know, I know, I know. The one thing is like, if you like the season to win the division, Mike Tomlin to win coach of the year might be worth a play here as well. So I bet that every year. 18 to 1. He's not one.

He's not one yet. So, look, they're doing their job, man. They're playing good football. Vikings team with a quarterback that's on the ban list and we won't mention his name. Pittsburgh dome. Look at their schedule because sometimes their schedule dictates, you know, I mean, look, they got the, so they got Browns, Bengals, Packers. I mean, look, the Bengals and Browns now stink.

They could be five and one heading, heading, you know, about to host Green Bay. The schedule's pretty safe. Oh, man, they're going to, they might win the division, dude. That's a tieable game. They could be five one and one. I think we just, I think we just stumbled on something. should bet, Jeff. I don't know how much of that money you got in your pocket with Matt, but maybe talk to him about putting that. It was on, it was on the list of things to

add to the futures portfolio and went on our, on our Thursday show. So, uh, we will talk about that with Matt if we won't put money on that or not. I'd like a finder's fee if that happens. Can we play the, uh, one word sort of game? Um, sure. Let's do it. All right. Uh, Bengals receivers over the past two games, if our math is correct, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, are making about $82,000 per yard receiving. Got a one word response to that? Expected. What do you expect with Jake Browning?

Okay, got it. Yeah. What do we expect with Jake Browning? I don't know. I thought he was going to kind of hold it together. No, the backup quarterback's for a reason. He's not even like an upper echelon backup quarterback. And we saw it too, like in week two, like Mario to look great in week one.

It's like, oh, there's Marioita, real Marioada now as a backup. I mean, these guys, one or two weeks. and then the backup, you know, the reason why they're a backup. So it sucks for them, but, you know, maybe invest in some better offense alignment. Okay. I don't really like this next quote, even though it's a terrific quote from a guy who clearly understands exactly who he's playing for. Breece Hall of the Jets said, quote, teams shoot themselves in the foot. Then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head.

Exactly, Breeze. That is why sports divorce exists for fans like me. The Jets have a problem, many problems, but one of them is, Aaron Glenn just, dude, I don't know, man. This team is undisciplined. He gets a ton of penalties. He's supposed to be a defensive guy.

The defensive personnel is good there. They're bad on defense. I'm beginning to worry about him as a coach. I mean, look at the other first-year coaches. We're seeing some improvement. in their teams into week five now, the Jets are getting worse every week. Yeah, and thank you, Hank, for putting up the banned list.

As a reminder, we should never have even spoken of the Jets. It was only because that quote was just so damn good. So since we're pushing it here, I'll push another one. Tush push discourse supposedly banned, but the Eagles used two fake Tush Pushes. I don't know if we have a clever name for what a fake Tush Push is. But should we ban those two? Should we complain about that all season?

Should the whole NFL off season be about banning fake tush pushes? Did they jump off sides, though? That's the important thing. If they jump off sides, you know, we can't complain. I just, I find it so funny, man, that just, I do not watch sports complaining about the officials. I just don't get the people that do that, Gabe. I don't understand.

You know, we're talking about Oregon in a little bit. I'm not watching that game against Penn State being like, and they called the holding penalty. How dare the officials? How do you watch sports like that? It would blow my mind. I mean, there was a play in that game that was 100% targeting.

And I hate the targeting role. I don't even know. I don't even saw the play game. It's targeting. They made them, it's like, well, you hit them with like the crown of the helmet versus the face mask versus the top. I'm like, what is this?

It's a targeting. But I'm not like, I'm not at the TV like screaming. Like that call targeting. How dare you officials? You cost us the game. Like, it's just weird. The behavior that people, have toward officiating, man.

Yeah, it can be, it has problems. It certainly does, but people get so obsessed with like everything that the referee is missed in every game. I'm just not the type of fan. I'm not either. And there was a lot of it on Sunday night. There was a lot of it on Saturday night and a game we'll talk about soon. But before then, since we're here trying to make a delicious TikTok content, let's redraft

the 2024 quarterback class. One word response to the idea that we should rediscover. this every single week and just completely change our minds about who's good in that class. Incredible idea for social content. Thank you. As the as the leader of the YouTube channel and TikToks, YouTube shorts, there we go, YouTube shorts. Yeah, yeah. And.

So let's do it then. Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay. So I am, I'm going, Jane Daniels one still. Okay. Daniels one. I'm going Caleb Williams two.

Mm-hmm. Okay, Kill Williams 2. I think for now we're going Bo Nix 3. Drake May is catching him at 4. All right. Penn X. McCarthy. Did I nail them?

I got all of them? As far as I know, we keep adding names and pretending they're relevant. There's only two of those guys that matter in my mind. I think, I think Drake May could pass Bo Nix. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow. He could be better than the great Bo Nix.

Is that real? Oh, what hot take. It is. The hottest take is going to be, you know, is Caleb Williams a product of like Ben Johnson? Is it a product of his, you know,

and he wasn't great on Sunday. The Bears should have lost that game. But Ben Johnson is doing a great job of just getting him in the right position for success and Williams is not doing the USC stuff anymore. Well, also. they aren't, his defense isn't giving up 46 points a game or whatever. Yeah, but

we're not talking about Spencer Rattler, Hank. Sorry. You know, I was a nominee you. I was nominated Hank for an award, not anymore. Well, guess what? We can redraft the 2024 quarterback class again next week because that's what sports takes are. My chargers were finally here. So they lost the

Giants and the real headline to me was Joe Alt's injury, but one word for the chargers in their line. Bad. 45 pressures the last two weeks have given up. So this actually is a,

we'll do a football thing here. So you're five of its alignment, right, Gabe? Okay? When one is out, you can supplement that, especially at tackle. Like, let's say right tackles out, right? You can supplement that with backup right tackle

and then obviously tied in, running back, some schematic things to help out one guy being out. It's easier at tackle, but inside you put a, you know, slide of center there. Like, you can figure it out, right? The problem becomes now when you have two guys out,

and we saw this on Sunday for the Chargers. When you have one guy out, you game plan with that, right? Now, when you have a running back or tight end help you, that takes one less guy out of the route concept. So most route concepts, right, are two, three, or four guys. And you would like to get more guys out. You get three guys out on one side of the field that spreads apart the defense, right? Gabe, it gives you more options.

four guys out, which is rare, but like a four person, more options, right? You send three guys out, the back flares out, you know, defense drops off, you throw the back, defense comes up, you throw number two, you get my idea, right? And then, so you build this all week around one guy being out. Then the other guy, Joe Alt, who is the guy you're like, hey, buddy, you're one-on-one all day to day, we're helping the right tackle. He comes out, and then I have a backup left tackle who's worse than the backup right tackle, you don't really have a way to help the left tackle

when you didn't practice all week to do that. Because you've set up everything in your game plan around helping the right tackle. And that includes again the route concepts, right? And making sure that you've practiced, okay, chip, get out, chip cross, chip, sit. Like all the things you do after you chip in the route concept, you can't just be like, hey, actually now

we're going to switch to the other side and do it all game on the left tackle. It doesn't work that way, right? You didn't game plan for that. And it takes practice. for the quarterback to understand the route content with maybe one less guy in it. Also, too, if you help both sides,

you get three guys out, maybe just two guys out, you can't really complete a lot of passes with two wide receivers out. It doesn't work. It's just kind of impossible. So it's hard just to switch in the middle of a game to give someone help when you haven't practiced all week

giving that person help. Lastly, too, look, because the offense alignment, you have to work with the running back and tight end to understand what the timing, of their help is going to be. Because if you set too far back as an offensive alignment and the running back or tight end hits the defensive end, that guy might go inside by just accident essentially because you've given too much room there and the chip knocks the defender inside and he has a free

rush to quarterback. So you have to time up your pass set with knowing where that back is going to be or where the tight end is going to be. And again, if you didn't practice that, it's hard just to say in a game, go do that now. So, like, that's where the problem becomes. I saw someone put this out about offensive line. Well, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the point of, the, the, the, the point of the show. That was, that, the, the point of this show is for you to geek out just like that. But what I heard was, uh, as a parent of three kids.

the joke is one kid is two kids two kid is four kids four three kids is a million kids there's just too much it's like two is manageable but it feels like a lot three is just we're overwhelmed they're sacking us all day long that's why it's why we stopped it too nice job by you uh if let me ask you this alt goes down during the game that's hopeless if he's out and they're practicing all week with the now backup backup is that a manageable situation? He's an NFL player. These are pros. You put another big body there and you give him a week of practice. You lost like two all pro tackles.

Oh, I got that. I got that. Okay. I mean... The drop off's that dramatic. Yeah, you're in a tough spot here, yeah. And all out, what, four weeks, six weeks, high ankle sprain. So it's not great.

No, it's not great. It's not great for fantasy owners, you know. Okay. Jackson Dart on the other side of the ball. Look, he surprised me a little and getting the win. He played okay. what did you think of his debut? People are talking about him like he's like Patrick Mahomes.

He's like 110 yards. He's fine. He, I don't know who. His PR person must be Matt Rules PR person from a few years ago. I can't take it. I saw, I saw someone did a side by side of Jackson Dart and put a photo of Tim Tebow up and like to

compare the quarterbacks. The amount of talk is rivaling my boy Tim Tebow. Brian Daibol obviously loves him, tender embrace post game. There it is. Yeah, look at them. Looking into each other's eyes. That's Brian Dayball saying to him with his eyes,

I like living in Jersey. I have a nice home here. I want to be here. Please don't get me sent to some OC job for some big name coach in the SEC. I want to stay here with you. Alabama, you called this last week. Yeah, but then Kellynne DeBorg screwed that up

from me beating Georgia. That really put a dent in my great take. That did, yeah, yeah. Maybe not a great take then. Okay, here, last time for another great take. Ready? The bills are clearly the best team. We can save time talking about them.

So I gave you them at the one spot. Another social video. Fill in the rest of your top five at the quarter pole. Go. Got to be fast, fast, fast, fast. Bills, Eagles. Now you're putting a less pressure on me. Let's go with the Rams are probably, got to be there, right?

the Rams, three and one Rams. Oh, look at that. I have to look at it. Do it. No, no, no. Say the team you want to say. Do it. The Chiefs?

Yeah, there you are. Yeah, there we go. And then give me the, the NFC is so weird right now. There's like not, you know what? Let's go with the, am I, are the Colts ban for this topic, Gabe?

Yeah. For the fifth best team of the other. NFL. You don't want them there. Stop that. Give me the, oh, wow. Who is the fifth best team in the NFL right now? I was going to say the Chargers, but they're like so, they're so beat up right now. Oh, no, the Lions, sorry, the Lions. Sorry, Lions, yes. I forgot the Lions. Lions five. All right, let's do it again. Bill's Eagles, Rams, Chief Lines. Yeah, go, ready, go. All right, Bill's one, Eagles, two, Rams three, Chiefs. He's four, lines five.

There you go. Oh, that's going viral. That is. That is, yeah. We don't like talking kickers for a second here. Jason Myers got caught having an insane reaction to smelling salts on Thursday night. He looked absolutely like a complete lunatic. And it was awesome, and I hate to admit that.

Should we all be doing smelling salts more often? Oh, I didn't look. I don't have them. I have, when I was big in the Peloton, I kept. up smelling salts like near the peloton. I actually might have, I might have them. It gives you a good, good hit, man. That wakes your ass up.

Should we require kickers to use smelling salts? I think you should require all your podcast hosts to take a hit of a smelling salt before they go in the show. It would perform really well. I'm in. If Hank can get us some smelling salts, that would help because we're recording this pretty damn early on the, on the West Coast. So I'd take a hit of that.

Order some smelling salts. I would love, I would love to see. game take a smelling salt on the show. Yeah, I've smelled some gross, gross shit in my day, but ammonia packets. What's going to happen is you're going to put it too close to your face. It's going to get your, it's going to be bad news, but I'd like to see you try to do that. All right. I promise to do that last one before a quick break and then we got to hit some college. Give me your World Series prediction quick. I didn't want about the Dodgers, which, uh, uh, uh, uh, so I think that,

Two things are important in the postseason, right, Gabe? Can you pitch and can you get big hits, right? Like big home runs. And in the American League, I think that's the Mariners. I know. Do you just groan? You didn't like that pick? I don't like that pick.

They got one guy I've heard of. He gave me the big dumper. Okay, I get it. And then probably, whoever wins the Phillies Dodgers series is going to go to the World Series. in the NL. I would like it to be the Phillies. Yeah, I'll tell you what. I don't know exactly what the numbers are, but if I had to just put money somewhere comfortably and not overthink this,

just take the Yankees. No, they, they, they, they're, I don't think you bet on a team that plays defense the way they do in the postseason. Yeah. Okay. That would be, I mean, we saw it, we literally saw it happen last season. I'm looking up the odds right now to win the World Series on, uh, world series right here, on draft kings. The favor right now is the Phillies and Mariners.

I did not know that before I picked them to make the World Series. So there you go. I like my pick as value. Yankees are 8 to 1. 8 to 1, yeah. I bet on the Dodgers to win their series, and I parlayed it with the Broncos last night to win

and the bills to beat the Patriots. Dodgers were like minus 250. I don't want to pay that outright. So I put them all together. So if the bills win and the Dodgers win their series, I won some money. All right.

We've gone too far without talking about college football and we're running out of time. I'd like to save some of it for you to make me smarter about a few teams, including your favorite team, the team you're wearing right now, the Oregon Ducks. Let's do that. We'll be back in a second. Oh, yeah. All right, Gabe. Here we go. I'm going to match today.

I got my duck, my duck. I have a couple choices here. You can maybe choose which hat you like me to wear here. I can wear the classic O. I can wear, I mean, green. I didn't go with a classic O in black, but I decided to match here with with with with with this. Man, what what a what a what a night. I I I I was it was fun. It was fun because I knew working was good and I didn't think this was going to be a year to think about winning anything more than the conference

or getting to the postseason and winning a playoff game or two gay. But go into that atmosphere and the way they played with the physicality and the way Dante Moore played, the timeline does feel a tad moved up for this season, which is super exciting. And the thing I think that was just for me as a fan, like the way the program is built and the way they operate in these environments, we had minimal penalties and we physically beat Penn State,

which is what the question was about this game, right? Because last season they rushed for 300 yards in us. Can we physically go into this environment and win this game? And then I think another thing that is just like we're a young team, man. Like we're going to be better in week 12 than we are in week five. We start a true freshman corner. We start a retro freshman corner. We start a retro freshman safety.

We have our best he tackles in his fifth game as a starter. Like we have all these things with just our best wide receiver is a true freshman. Our best running back is a true freshman. Our quarterback is in his third year. But really that was his fifth start for us, right? He plays a true freshman at UCLA. Like there's just so much youth on this team to play the way they did in that game. Really impressive.

Yeah. This game solidified two lazy narratives in my mind. But I'm just going to say them anyway. Sorry, James Franklin just doesn't have it. and Dan Lannning, I'm ready to say, is my top choice. If I'm building a program in college football in 2025, I want Dan Lannning. I think he's the best coach out there.

So a couple of things. I'm going to do Franklin first here. I don't know Gabe what he could have done differently in this game other than just he chose the wrong quarterback to be his guy. He chose Jewelor over Pabula, who's at Missouri. Maybe that was the wrong choice. because there wasn't one play in this game other than maybe that punt of like the plus 40

that you're like, why are we punting the ball? That was, like it wasn't like a play like that's James Franklin's fault in this game. I think a little bit of the fault goes to the idea that the offense in a lot of these big games is very, very boring until it has to be more creative and all of a sudden they scored two touchdowns immediately

when they were a little more creative. They happened against Notre Dame. It's happening to other big games where they get behind or it's kind of they're stuck in the mud and then all of a sudden, they open up the offense. And the idea, I guess, is that if you do it for four quarters and you put more on Drew Aller, he just can't do it. But in short little burst, when it has to be done,

he can be the guy to do it in those short moments. And, of course, like in overtime, he throws the interception. As far as Dan Landing, dude, I can't believe how blessed we are to have him as our coach, dude. He is, it's, yes, he was fire up after the game and all those, you know, he looked like a crazy person because I think he really wanted to win and the passion that he showed. But it's two things. It's the player development, right? And it's the ability to adapt and evolve with no ego. So like the player development part speaks for itself. And yes, somebody's got to transfer to players. I get it. But again, Dante Moore was a true freshman

UCLA who had his struggles, sat out, they convinced him to sit out last season. Hey, come here and learn. And then you see his improvement already, right? Through five games. You look across. even on the defensive line. Last year, we got pushed around against Penn State and Ohio State. We got pushed around yesterday. Like, guys have gone stronger and bigger and faster.

And even like, I'll give me, you won't like this, but like Bear Alexander, right, the transfer from USC. His best game ever as a player at Penn State. And he didn't even, he was not starting this season, game one.

I don't think he started to game four. game four. Like they've worked him in. They've got, and he was a freaking monster in this game. And it's like stuff like that. It's those things. Again, you're playing about these true freshmen. And here's again, to get very nerdy for just a second here. So for three years, Oregon played a predominantly man coverage on defense. And we get away with that against most everyone except Washington, who carved us up in Ohio State, who carved us up. And what do we do this year, Gabe? Play a ton of zone coverage. he just adapts. He says, look, this is not working for us against better teams.

We have to find a better way to keep everything in front of us on defense. And this year, they're running a ton of cover two, keep it in front of us. Let's just not give him explosive plays. And the idea that you can just evolve like that is very impressive to me as a coach. And he's a cool dude. I was texting him yesterday. Like, he just seems like a chill person in general. So very fortunate to have him be our head coach.

You are extremely fortunate, and I'm not glad you brought up Bear Alexander, but it makes me want to ask a follow-up question. So obviously, Bear Alexander just becomes unplayable for Lincoln Riley. We still don't, I don't know exactly what the problem was there. But I know that watching the Illinois offensive line push the middle of the defensive front of USC around, especially late. I know that a 302-pound, like, All-American-type player would have been helpful. Is there also just something to landing can make difficult guys buy in, which he seemingly did with Alexander and Lincoln Riley and others like him, just simply they can't?

So I think it's about the way they practice and train. And if you don't buy into that level of physicality and that level improvement game, you just won't make the team. You know what I mean? Like you just won't do it. And when you choose to come to Oregon, you choose to buy into that. And what I notice is just like the brotherhood of this team is very strong. And that's not, it comes from Lain and also comes to the other players holding you accountable, right?

You have a player like Mateo Oungale, who's been there now for three years and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, they're not going to put up with, with bear shit. Like, Bryce Betcher, a middle linebacker is probably not going to put up with his shit. And so I'm not saying bear is a bad person, just like the example, right? Like, there, and so if you want to play, you better play up to the standard that Oregon has on defense. And again, he didn't play much in the first couple of weeks. I wonder if he came out of training camp, that standard was not being upheld. And then they, like, and he realized, like, if I want to play, I better, I better play better. And so that, and when I watch USC, I said this for a year, man, like, it's just kind of soft.

And I think it comes back to practice habits and what you stress at practice, what you stress in your program. offensive coaches tend to have programs that are not as tough as defensive guys. I think it's a tough line to walk, right, to have a creative offensive mind like Will Stein that also have the physicality of, you know, Alabama did this for years, right, where you had the creative offensive play caller and then the very tough physical defense. Georgia is a little bit less, but sort of the same idea. The Georgia offense has not been the same since Todd Monkin left. And to combine those two together, you typically just have one or the other, right?

You're a very physical defensive-minded team, Penn State, right? Or you're an offensive open, you know, we're running the ball, we're open offense up, but your defense lacks a little bit. And Oregon has sort of found that Ohio State has found to do both those things. It's really hard to do both those things at once. I think this players buy into that idea. Plus, like, if you come, he's on one-year deal, right? He wants to get the NFL.

Oregon's proven, you come here as a transfer portal guy, you're getting the NFL. And so he just buys in. You buy into the proof is there. Proof the content is there. Just come and be the guy, like buy into what we're doing. We'll get to the NFL, buddy. And the other thing that is interesting to note about, again, I think we talked a little bit about this a couple weeks ago, Gabe,

is I think the returning production thing is actually becoming a real big topic of buying this season where like Penn State's offensive line, a bunch of guys returning. Illinois's offense alone. guys returning. Illinois played better against USC and Clemson, right? All these guys returning. And I wonder if there's a complacency level now because players are

getting paid and because of social media and all you hear all offseason is like how good you're going to be, how good you're going to be, how good you're going to be. And I was a big time media day. Like we were talking high about Illinois' office like, hey man, you got five guys back. He's going to be really good this season, right? And you hear

about Penn State. Like you got everyone back this year. You're going to go for a championship. You're going to be good this season, right? And then you look at the other teams, like, and just with the big 10s I cover it a lot. You look at like Oregon, right? Like, I don't know, man. They've got like three new offensive linemen. Ohio State's got to replace all these guys.

And they're doing just fine. I wonder if that, because like, if you can't, if you're Isaiah World or left tackle, you're a pregnant or left guard, you're a right tackle, harky, like three guys trying to go to the NFL after the season. Like, there's a hunger there to buy in and play as well as possible. Bear Alexander, right? there's a hunger there where if you're returning as a starter, you're making a million dollars a year, you hear all these praises.

Is there the same fire as Ohio State? You wait for two years and you get a chance to start in your third year. You play well, you go the NFL type of mentality. I wonder if that is something that is the reason to explain some of this around cultural, where the most experienced offenses are just not playing up to expectations where the more inexperienced offenses, are playing just fine. It's a good theory. I think we should talk about it in the weeks to come.

We are now in the thick of the college football season. Speaking of thick, there was a thick screen to an Alabama left tackle, split wide, 67, 366, Kaden Proctor, and he just bashed nine guys on his way to a first down. I'd like to know more about that next week because we've got to get out of here. We've been asking people,

listen for a long time. Make some picks for me Thursday. And then on Tuesday, I want to hear about the big boys. Caden Proctor. Unbelievably awesome. All right, guys. We're back on Thursday with some picks. Got to do better. It's been a rough start this year, but we'll be better. We'll be back on Thursday.

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