Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Cowboys Crumble, Chiefs Rise, and Geoff Rates Week 1 Overreactions

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

Week One of the 2022 NFL season has come and gone, and finally Geoff and Gabe can set aside months of conjecture and dig into some stuff that actually happened. But every year after Week One, there's a temptation to overreact to a small sample size, especially when things don't play out as predicted. Luckily for Geoff, everything this week happened just as he said it would, which makes it easy for him to sort through the wildest takes on the internet and tell you what you should take away from this weeks games.From the Cowboys' season ending before it every really began, to Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow crapping their pants, to Texas almost being back, this show covers the drama from the last weekend of football-- and there was a lot to cover. Make sure to like and rate the episode if you enjoyed, and follow the pod to get notified when Geoff and Matt drop their Week Two betting picks on Thursday.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

it's tuesday september 13th i'm jeff schwartz alongside gabe goodwin this jeff schwartz is smarting you're powered by the varsity podcast network we've made it we have one nfl sunday in the books and gabe i'm gonna brag about a lot of predictions i have gone correct most namely the kansas city chiefs we'll get to them in a little bit cowboys season already in turmoil after one week and so much to talk about after the first full NFL Sunday of the 2022 season. Gabe, how we doing, buddy? How'd your weekend of wagering and watching go? Watching, great. USC and the Chargers both won. Wagering, TBD, my survivor pool hinges on the Monday night game. Fantasy, complete disaster.

Yeah, fantasy was bad for me. It hurts when you have Nick Chubb and then Kareem Hunt gets the first two touchdowns. So nonetheless, no one's here to hear us talk about our fantasy team. They're here to talk about how the Kansas City Chiefs are the best team of all time. And I was exactly correct about everything I've said about the Chiefs the entire offseason. Don't worry. We're going to get to that. Yeah, listen, just for the audience who listens to this show probably already knows that

there's a little group of us who have a text thread going and we're just constantly talking shit and sharing story ideas and trying to get Jeff's insight. It's a lot of fun, but this weekend was just a, a running list of all the things Jeff claims he was right about. And he wants credit. Get this everybody.

He wants credit for saying the Chiefs are good. Way to go, Jeff. I want credit for that. I nailed the Tom Brady story as well. That's good. That's true. You did. And there were other things that I got right.

What I did not get right was maybe how bad the Cowboys are. No, we were trying to tell you all offseason that they stink. And well, they stunk real bad. No touchdowns. Dak Prescott played most of the game and then got hurt. And unfortunately, he's going to miss a few weeks having to have a hand surgery. But even before Dak was out, their offense was pitiful. There was nothing good going

on. Tom Brady didn't even play great and it was good enough to beat him pretty easily. But Jeff, the real headline coming out of this game is not Dak Prescott. It's not the future of the Cowboys or trades they might make. It's your new beef with Micah Parsons. I don't have a beef with Micah Parsons. Why are you going in on Micah Parsons, Jeff? There was a clip that went around of Leonard Fournette with a chip on Micah Parsons. A great chip, right? So, for those who don't know what a chip lock is, a running back or a tight end will, I mean, they take out their shoulder, you know,

so like a shoulder chip essentially with the shoulder, and they hit a defender, most often a pass rusher, when they're not looking, and they knock him down, okay? And it was great. He leveled Michael Parsons. Now, Parsons is rushing the left tackle, and Lenny gets into him and knocks him down. And all that happened was everyone shared the clip.

PFF put a couple pancakes. It's not really a pancake per se. It's a slab of ribs, it's called. A whole slab of ribs. Hit him right in the ribs. And Michael Parsons got very upset. So did Von Miller, by the way. But I only answered Parsons.

And he said some explicatives on Twitter. And I was like, dude, LOL. Like, kind of funny. You're very angry about this. And he said, watch the tape. And I'm like, no one disagreed. Did you play well? Like, no one like kind of funny. You're very angry about this. And he said, watch the tape. And I'm like, no one disagreed. Did you play well? Like no one disagreed with that.

It's one clip that was shared on social media. He's like, well, that basically he was like, well, that's the problem. I'm like, yeah, no shit it is. I tell you what's on the line from the offensive line perspective, right, Gabe? That one clip shared is not indicative of the entire game, but no offensive lineman's out there being like,

that's some, excuse my language. I don't know, you might want to bleep lineman's out there being like, that's some, excuse my language. I don't, you might want to bleep that out, Hank, but like, that's what he said. That's what he said on social media. Right.

That's what he said, Gabe. So like my, my thing, yeah, you, you want to bleep that out. So nonetheless,

you know, he said that, you know, that he put some explosives in there and said that, you know, that that was the way he felt about that. And I'm just like, look, man, like, okay, congratulations. You feel that way, but this is football. It's in the trenches. Like you're going to get a chip every now and then. And again, no one argued that he didn't play well. It was just one clip

on social media. I thought he took it way too seriously. Well, also, if you're going to have a running back, uh, chip you and own you. Leonard Fournette's about 250. I mean, that ain't a small dude knocking you down. So I wouldn't feel too bad about it. But here's the thing, Jeff, this season so far from going back into the preseason with that hit on KT and now starting the season this way and Von Miller jumping to the defense of Micah Parsons, it seems like we're getting like a fat guys versus defensive ends kind of beef going on around the league. And I'm teasing you a little bit. I know you and Micah Parsons don't actually have any issue with each other.

But do you get the feeling that everyone's kind of angling to get their position group a little bit more love with the refs? Well, yeah, but I think more than anything, the defensive part is trying to get this stuff eliminated from the game. And they're trying to find a way to obviously increase their capability to play better and while hurting our capability to play better. I mean, a chip is a perfectly legal thing. And, you know, next time now a running back comes to hit Micah Parsons

or lines him in that spot, he's going to pay attention. It's going to help us. And, you know, I know that they're claiming their player safety, but I don't know. There's other things that happen in the trenches that are not player safety and no one wants to address that there are times when there's a stunt called so the defensive linemen are moving at the snap to create more angles and there are times when they blindside us in the side of the head and the neck in the chest area and no one says oh that shouldn't be allowed we just kind of pick and choose like

it's a violent play. I agree with him. It probably didn't feel very good. But we can't eliminate everything that doesn't feel good in football. I mean, it's football. It's a very violent game. And so if we eliminate everything that felt bad for us, then we wouldn't have the game we have now.

And again, I'm fine with player safety, but I don't really, he didn't get concussed. He didn't get hit in the head. If this was in the open field of a wide receiver, caught the ball and got hit like this, we'd give an attaboy to defensive back. I mean, like, it's all the same. And you want to get angry about it? Sure.

And I understand social media only highlights certain things. But the PFF account also had a bunch of positive clips of him because he played really well. Yeah, he was probably the only thing going for the Cowboys. So let's just say that you are getting good at starting beefs. You got Stephen A up on the wall now. You got Micah Parsons, a couple people coming at you. Stephen A was a very one-sided beef, it felt like.

Oh, okay. We didn't even know who it was, that Schwartz guy or whatever. Listen, Schwartz guy, a lot of people are coming at you. That's a good sign. So let's talk about the real headline that I think everyone else took away from that game,

which is Dak Prescott's hurt. Mike McCarthy is still Mike McCarthy there. You know, there's a lot of injuries all across this roster, but Dak being out for a few weeks is a real problem because they have one of the worst

backup quarterback situations in the league. So we'll get to some takes that are pretty steamy about what they should do at that position but what do you make of the Cowboys without Dak? I saw a tweet from Seth Galina at Pro Football Focus it's kind of something with the Cowboys ready? Cowboys are a good example of a controversial theory when you put less good players on the field compared to the year prior you're going to be worse that's good summary yeah they're not they they didn't they did not address offensive line depth at all they drafted a first round offensive lineman who's now at left tackled on the third left guard and again a lot of teams don't have the luxury of multiple caliber starting caliber offensive lineman but they didn't address that um they didn't address wide receiver depth at all uh right gallop is out cooper cooper's gone gallops out yeah yeah

saw last night not a lot of depth there um and look the backup quarterback situation people are to be making too much of a big deal about this yeah you would love to have a veteran backup in an ideal world sure but if a quarterback gets hurt your quarterback gets hurt like you're done it doesn't really matter if you have a good backup or not like even if the cowboys had you know i saw people mention like tyrod taylor right for the giants of tarod taylor right or they had um you know who's another um example he was a winner on sunday jacoby brissett or they had uh one other team that was mentioned as well from someone I was listening to yeah that'd be great I guess but in the end I mean you're probably not going to win

many games with a backup quarterback if Dak's out for any longer than six to eight weeks I'm honestly concerned about that as in wide receiver depth and offensive line depth okay but you're forgetting one backup quarterback who's out there that everyone wants to talk about and all the takes on Monday are, what about Jimmy G?

What about Jimmy G? Yeah. So Jimmy G is available. Gardner Minshew, Mason Rudolph. I mean, these guys would imagine that the Niners would be open to training for them. Not Niners, the Cowboys would. Here's the thing about this. So we know Jerry Jones is always optimistic, right?

He's always optimistic. He's always put forth this face of like, we're going to win in spite of everything else that we know. But last week he made a comment that we have to find a way to make one plus one equal three for the season to be what we want it to be. Maybe it's an admission that they're not as good as he thinks they're going to be, especially without the left tackle and Gallup. And Gallup will come next to him.

So if you're the cowboys and jerry jones admitted that you're not a super bowl caliber team why bother trading for anybody like wouldn't you rather be bad for eight weeks have dat come back and be five and twelve and have the eighth pick overall then like trade for Jimmy Garoppolo and I guess sort of make the playoffs maybe make the playoffs I mean the Eagles are in the division now to me it does not make sense again I think in this I think the NFL have to be one of two things right a playoff team you're going for it or be very bad the middle is not the place to be the Cowboys opportunity to be very bad here and that could benefit them in the long run.

I would not make any of these trades. It's recording this Monday afternoon. I'm not quite sure that we're going to see anything happen by the time we're done with this recording. There might be something tonight. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen tonight. I just don't think they're going to do it, man. I really don't think they're going to do anything different.

I think they'll roll with Cooper Rush. I agree with your basic assessment that if you're not going to be good, be bad. But I don't think that the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones can live with that. There's a couple teams out there that they really don't do well with the rebuilds. And they try to just push their problems down the road and spend their way out of it. So I don't, I hear you. And I think most teams would go with what you just said, but I don't think that's what they'll do.

Look, again, it's already midday Monday and they need someone like tonight to play this week. And if they don't have that person by tonight, they're rolling with Cooper Rush. Well, I think Cooper Rush is your starter next week and then we'll see how how dead the season looks yeah but they but they need to get that guy in there now like they need to get that in there now let me ask you this and then i'd like to move to the other side of this game with tom brady and the bucks uh and his offensive line but mike mccarthy who i think everyone agreed, starts the season with a warming seat.

Does this give him excuses or make it that much faster that he's gone? His team looked pretty bad to start this. So I think maybe it's an excuse, but I think as soon as Jerry Jones gets himself Sean Payton, he will make that phone call. Sean Payton's a nice segue to Tom Brady. A good listener will remember why. So Brady did not look great, I'm happy to say. But, you know, he's Brady, so the defense made a few plays for him. He ended up playing the Cowboys on their worst offensive night in recent memory.

And so what do you know? He wins an easy one on the Sunday night to start the season. That said, I wouldn't feel great if I was a Bucs fan looking at him as my quarterback right now. He admitted in postgame he didn't play very well. And I really want to know what you think of that team moving forward, because Chris Collinsworth seemed to think they're the NFC's top team. And that's not what I saw, but he's a lot smarter than me. Who is the top team in the NFC? That's the problem, right?

And you look at that. Look, we don't overreact to week one here. So the Packers losing that game to the Vikings, to me, doesn't change very much of what I think about them. They're without their best wide receiver and their two best offensive linemen. Like, let's just see what happens. Christian Watson dropped a touchdown pass in the first drive. If he catches that, maybe things are different.

The Rams don't look terribly good in week one. You know, who else? The Cowboys, Eagles, Niners. Like, the Cowboys, you know, the Eagles, I feel like the same team, just like with Jalen Hurts, you know, A.J. Brown's there a little bit better. So, Tampa Bay on paper, I think, is still that team. The problem is injury is starting to get them, right? They're down three offensive linemen last night.

They won the Super Bowl two years ago. Only one of those linemen was playing last night at the end of the game because of injuries and depth and trades and whatnot. So then you have, you know, Godwin's hurt again, I think, right? For a little bit. He hurt his hamstring, they said, last night. So they're the best of, like, the worst. Essentially, they're not the worst,

but the best of the rest of the NFL. Because the AFC conference, the top is loaded, man. The NFC's not. So I think that's why Collinsworth can say that through his hoarse voice last night. And if you play a bad game and win by 16 on the road, it's a good sign. There's much room for improvement for Tampa Bay.

Yeah, his take was towards the end of the game was, if you got a defense that looks this good and a run game that looks this good, and the only weak spot week one is the quarterback, but the quarterback's Tom Brady, I think you're going to be just fine. And I thought that was a pretty simple and straightforward analysis.

So let me ask you this, because we were wondering, as every week of the offseason, it felt like another important lineman went down. And with Tom Brady, you have told me interior linemen are super important because he hates pressure up the middle. He can handle the pressure on the edge. So all three guys in the middle were new to their position. I want to know what you thought of the way they looked as a unit.

And then I have a specific question and a conspiracy theory about Shaq Mason. Well, Shaq Mason's from New England, so he's not really kind of new, but he's a new player in that position. That's part of my conspiracy. Keep going. He got beat by Lawrence at one time, pretty handling that run play. I thought they tried their best. And the Cowboys defensive line has obviously Parsons and Tank. Like, they're good.

Not as good as other ones. I think they held their own. And they ran the ball pretty well. And Brady threw the ball fast. I mean, that's just kind of what you do with Tom Brady in offense. So, they were okay. As a whole, they were okay. It wasn't terrible.

It wasn't great. Did enough to win, obviously. Okay, so then let's go into Shaq Mason a little bit now if I'm to understand what the experts say this guy is very good they're right guard yes he comes from New England according to the broadcast last night he is the the the offensive lineman who has played the most snaps with Tom Brady in the NFL and what do you know when they need an offensive lineman, they can trade a guy who many consider to be like pro bowl level. They can get a,

get him for a sixth round pick from new England when new England's rebuilding. How the hell does that happen? You didn't new England. There's a conspiracy between Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady for offensive lineman. I think, and I'm going to loop Hank into this because he was helpful in shaping this.

We think, who knows? Maybe he's got some damning material. Maybe Tom knows some things that those guys don't want to get out. And maybe he said, hey, I need a lineman. You got a lineman? Give me the lineman or we're talking. Mmm.

That feels a little far-fetched. Feels like you were in the lab a little bit too much with that one last night all right kids go to bed you're just staying up late watching football i guess on the west coast that's never really a thing you were so enthralled with usc's win you just started getting your maybe my mind started racing but so how do they end up with this guy if he's this good why is he on the team? Sixth round pick. I mean, the Patriots have often traded good players for no reason. You know, we've seen Chandler Jones go out during his prime. Logan Minkins wasn't in his prime, but still very good. Richard Seymour as well.

I mean, it's just kind of what they do. He has no problem trading players away. Okay. Well, the other new guy then in Tampa, Julio Jones, looked better than we'd seen him in the last couple of years. He apparently is crediting the TB12 method. Someone one day can describe for me what the hell that means. Do we think Julio Jones is going to just like flip a switch and become Julio Jones again all because of Tom Brady and avocados? Or, you know, what should we expect out of him this season?

No, I don't think so i think he'll be kind of um revitalized a little bit playing this offense but i would not expect any more than he got from him in game one i mean it's just he's not he's not as reliable but you know he's the third option if everyone's healthy, right? Mike Evans and Godwin, then him. So it allows him to play a little bit but not have, you know, enough to like, you know, to kind of get injured. You know what I mean? All right. Fair enough. It seems like he's working out with rubber bands and, you know, staying away from acidic food now like his idol, Tom Brady. So I was thinking that might make a big difference.

It is. I think you need to do the TB12 method. In some ways, I believe it or not, I kind of am. When you prepare for your next half marathon or mini try, you should do it. Hank and I are both doing a mini try this weekend. We'll tell you all about it next Monday. Wait, Hank is doing it? He's doing two thirds of a mini try. Oh, is this like a charity one?

Yeah. Yeah. But no, continue to mock us while we help children. Jeez. Hank's not doing this with you, is he? But no, continue to mock us while we help children. Hank's not doing this with you, is he? He's going to try. I might have to scrape him off the asphalt. He's coming from Austin to do this, from Texas? Yeah, he's committed to the job. With his longhorn tears? Hey, we're getting to that in the next segment.

Let's talk about your team, your favorite team. The team you told us was going to be great. They are, the Chiefs. Let's talk about your team, your favorite team. The team you told us was going to be great. They are the Chiefs. So they poured it on. Patrick Mahomes basically beat my fantasy team in the first quarter. The offense looked incredible. The defense, which is always the thing that we wonder about in Kansas City, the defense looked very good, even against Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury, all that genius. So what was your assessment of the Chiefs? Is this the team we were counting out last year? So my takeaway on this is defensively, as you said,

it is a rebuild that we need to give Brett Veach and staff credit for. a rebuild that we need to give Brett Veach and staff credit for. They went from slow, aging, old, to young, quick, faster, more physical, better tacklers in the span of two years. Defensive line, right, they added George Koloftis. They added Carlos Dunlop, who's older but still can get after it. Linebackers now, Nick Bolton, Willie Gay, Leo Chanel, like they're faster, quicker.

Defensive backs played really well yesterday. Trent McDuffie played well until he got hurt with a linebacker, excuse me, with a hamstring injury. So they just looked better on defense. Again, it was 44-14, right? I mean, kind of 38-7. I mean, there was some 37- 37 7 there's some garbage time there that cheats a lot a couple touchdowns to get to 44 21 but yeah offensively a couple trends i saw one is they used a lot more personnel with tight ends 12 13 personnel which i thought they would

do this year two got back to more basics, man. Under center runs, under center play action pass, get the ball out quickly, quick read, let your wide receivers run, kind of very, very staples of the West Coast offense, which, by the way, is what I thought they would do when they got rid of Tyreek Hill. Now, again, they would have paid him $25 million.

They still want to pay him whatever, $28 million. But losing him forced them to go back to the basics of the West Coast offense. It allows Pat to get the ball out quickly. It allows the offensive line to get set up and the ball out quickly. I believe he threw yesterday to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 players. 9 players caught passes. 10, if you had Watson Watson end up 10 targets. So spread the ball around, get out quickly,

get your guys in space. Physical offensive line, I really loved what I saw from them. Pat Mahomes, 30 of 39 for 360, two touchdowns, excuse me, five touchdowns. PFF also graded the quarterbacks as they do each week. And he's like eighth for the week. He was like grad like 71 and davis mills was graded like a 68 and i was like uh uh all right i don't know what game y'all were watching but cool eighth best quarterback this week yeah the pff rankings will remain a mystery to me forever um i don't even want to know how they come up with the numbers they do.

You're talking a lot about the pass catchers, which obviously was the big concern after Tyreek left. But also, we waited a whole season last year for CEH to turn into something. Then they draft this kid. God help me if I'm ever going to pronounce his name correctly. Pacheco? How do you say it? Yeah, okay, I did it. Both of them look pretty good.

And Andy likes having multiple running backs. So if he's got a run game as well, is that going to keep up? Or is that just because the Cardinals are absolutely terrible? No, I thought they tried early on to kind of get the run going. But then the second half of the game, the final touchdown drive was just running the football. That's not what Andy Reid wants to be. He'll mix it in there. But also worth pointing out that with a lot of these teams,

you need to look at the run pass option rates, right? Because they ran the ball I think like 13 times in the first half. They might have called 20 RPOs. They ran the ball in 13 of the 20, right? And they threw the ball over seven times. So they're taking what the defense gives them, which is the point of the RPO. seven times so they're giving they're taking what the defense gives them which is the point of the rpo and so they might not run as much as you think or like but they actually call the run plays more

often than we give them credit for okay fair enough so pat's making the decision to pull it back and throw it yeah i would trust him in that situation uh all right so they get a big test thursday against the chargers who also looked very good. Oh, can't wait. I know you're excited. The Chargers, okay, the Chargers very quickly on the Chargers. They just,

they leave me wanting a little bit more game. Like they're up 14 to three. Yeah. And you're like, they're dominating the game. And the Raiders had the ball with a chance to tie the game at the end. Like it's just,

the Chargers continue to like, and Justin Herbert is so freaking good man they should be scoring 35 points a game he's so good they just leave me wanting something more every time I watch him play I fully agree I watch that game as closely as any game he looked like the best quarterback I saw on Sunday, their pass rush looked like the best I saw anywhere. They had turnovers. And yet the score didn't, like it never felt comfortable. I don't quite know how to explain it. Like they just charger the game sometimes. And they're smarter than they were under previous coaches.

But it's just, it isn't an easy ride. It feels very charger. Like it feels like this is why when people are predicting them to the Super Bowl, I'm like, ah. Yeah. Can we win a playoff game? It feels a little bit too early to do that when I haven't seen them overcome some of these issues.

Yeah, well, this Thursday will feel like a playoff game. Very likely they won't have Keenan Allen, but that didn't seem to affect Justin Herbert too much. He just sort of figures out whoever's out there. But that Thursday night game they played towards the end of the year last year was incredible. We'll see if this week is the same. I do want to get to a few other sort of overreactions

that the tape-making shows covered. But before that, since we were on Tyreek Hill, did you hear the soundbite from Tyreek Hill talking about his new coach, Mike McDaniel? I'm going to play that for you right here. McDaniel's going to need a wheelbarrow for his

carry around. He's got a lot of football on his. Alright, Jeff, you heard it in his words. Maybe not clean for the youngest people listening to this show. Is Tyreek Hill like the greatest hype man of his new teammates ever, or is he just going to run his mouth into a problem? I guess. I just, it's so,

it feels like he's constantly trying to defend his decision to come to Miami, right? Yes, it does. Like all the time. He's like, and this is before the chiefs even play because the dolphins played in the early slot it just always feels like he's trying to justify his decision like okay buddy we get it they scored 20 points like so it's three points in second half i just they're just like an okay team and he's trying to continue to sell this as he made the right

decision and it's no one at point, no one cares anymore. But she's moved on. You should have moved on. Like, just stop doing this. Stop trying to create a narrative. Just like, it's getting annoying, put it like that. We get it, man. You like being in Miami.

You don't want to stay in Kansas City. But doesn't it feel, it just feels a performance at this point. Yeah, but I'm here for the performance. I'm here for all of it. I'm loving this guy more and more every week that goes by. Let's talk about a few of the other guys who, of course, the quarterbacks, the MVP contenders, the guys that fill up the rundowns at our favorite networks. So I'm going to read you a few takes from some familiar or unfamiliar people. And I just want to know after one week, are there overreactions, ones you want to get

on board with or not? So Aaron Rodgers is the easiest one. Lots and lots of people piling on Aaron Rodgers. But the consensus take was something like this from Mike Greenberg. Aaron Rodgers is as good as any quarterback that ever lived, but even he can't do it alone. Been saying it all summer, they need to make a move or several. His weapons just aren't good enough.

So is that the problem with Aaron Rodgers? Or is there no problem with Aaron Rodgers? Who are the moves they're going to make though? That's the thing, right? Who are the moves they're going to make? Odell's not ready to play yet. Nope. watson dropped a touchdown pass how different is that game if he catches that pass in the first drive probably much different right they're out two tackles out alan lazar just remember last year guys you remember the first game last season what happened

to the packers last year i don't but it strikes me as it being similar, and then Rodgers went nuts all season. They lost 38-3. Yeah, that's right. I remember we buried them week one. They won one, two, three, four, five, six, seven games in a row. Yeah. Look at the Bears this weekend. The Bears, good win.

I get it, but come on. We know that the Packers are going to play well this weekend. I just think we have to not it, not overreact. Don't overreact, don't overreact, don't overreact. They're going to be fine. Now, are they missing weapons? Sure, Devontae Adams had a good game for the Raiders. He looked great, man.

I was surprised at how good he looked. They did not do the Chiefs thing, right? They did not add a bunch of wide receivers. So the weapons just aren't there. I get it, as other teams. But, but, still have Rodgers. He's proven year after year he can do this. Let's not react after week one.

Okay, that's fair. So here's another guy everyone fell in love with, but we don't have two decades of success or stats or performance to lean on. Joe Burrow did not look great. Sacked a bunch, several turnovers. They lose, maybe you can't blame him for the way that they lose with the fluky blocked extra point and the field goal in overtime.

All right. But they were a touchdown favorite, and he lost because he turned the ball over and got sacked. So, Joe Burrow, do we overreact to a bad game? No, we shouldn't. Because we've only really seen him do it for one season. No, I think a couple of things are true at the Bengals. One is, I picked the Steelers in this game.

I thought they were going to, you know, it's just the trend of Mike Tomlin and I think Super Bowl losers in week one is tough. The Steelers defense obviously played really well. The Saks were great. T.J. Watt, unfortunately, is probably out for the season, at least a good part of it. They're a different team now.

And the Steelers tried to lose that game. I mean, they were plus five and turnovers almost lost okay so my biggest takeaway is kind of same it was last year is that i see this narrative of well burrows gonna take a bunch of sacks this is who he is it's not good to be the guy who's taking a bunch of sacks at quarterback so he needs to figure out a way to get the ball out sooner and his coaching staff has to find a way to get him the ball out sooner right like in you can't you this is not sustainable gabe you cannot be hit 11 times a weekend and sack seven times now you're not they're not playing the seers they're playing the cowboys so maybe it's different also we talk a lot during the preseason about preseason reps, and then we do this a lot, right?

Mm-hmm. Do you know which team most preseasons plays their starters the most in the NFL? Go ahead. The Chiefs do. Ah. And every year, the Chiefs come out in week one and kick the ass of their opponents. I wonder why.

I remember week in 2013. That was all the way back in Andy Reid's first year. So everyone was playing starters back then anyways. But we had a tough training camp, man. I remember just thinking, like, we just didn't melt in week one. And Jacksonville did. Like, all that work we put in paid off. The Bengals' offensive line did not take one rep the entire preseason together in fact only

one of the four guys played it all in the preseason to me and i have not re-watched the game yet it looked like an offensive line that did not take any live reps during during training camp and i don't know what they did to deserve any of that it's what zach taylor does by the way guess who didn't pile in preseason either the The Packers, the Rams, the Ravens. And it took them a half to get going against your Jets. Not my Jets. Not my Jets. My Chargers.

The teams that it just, it may be nothing. It may be something. But it's worth noting, man, that this continues to seem to happen each year. And they look like a group that did not. Now, I'm not going to stress over it. I'm not going to panic if you're a Bengals fan you lost a bad game it all happens but we'll see what they do against michael michael parsons and lawrence this weekend it's not great man again this like this thing of the identity is that my quarterback takes a bunch of sacks seems like a really bad

place to be in more times you get hit more chances you have to get hurt well jeff you know i haven't really heard it explained quite that way. And I think there's something interesting to this trend of these new, young, hip, cool, offensive-minded coaches that don't want to put their team through stress in the preseason or training camp.

How many guys get hurt during the preseason? Like, this is, there's this idea that, like, if the Bengals could have played their offensive line 30 snaps in the preseason, 50 snaps,

would they have taken that to give up three less sacks? Yeah, they would have. How many times are guys getting hurt in the preseason? Like, there's this idea that all these starters get hurt in the preseason. It doesn't happen. Well, it happened in Tampa Bay, and they seemed fine with the guys they brought in. But Ryan Jensen hurt himself in training camp. Yeah. No, you're right.

And that was a young cat who went too fast. Yeah. Okay. Well, that was a really, you know, Jeff, exactly what I was looking for from you when we wanted to make sure we understood if the Burrow freakouts were fair or not. I'm not freaking out. I'm not doing the overreaction in week one because we talk about the gambling and all this.

Like, Matt and I always suck in week two because we way overreacted week one. We're not going to do it. We're not going to do it. We're 4-1 this week, by the way, guys. 4-1, good start. But we're not going to have the overreactions and freak out right now. Okay. Well, luckily for them, they get a preseason game next week against the Cowboys.

So hopefully the AFC champs will be back on track in one-on-one. Let's go back to the NFC. Two second-year guys who we all have high hopes for, at least fantasy players do. So the weather was absolutely terrible in Chicago. Justin Fields beats Trey Lance. And then all the questions about Trey Lance start up again. We didn't even get one week before the, oh my God, did they make the right decision? What about Jimmy G? Is Trey Lance really ready can he throw the best way to stop Trey Lance is to make him be a quarterback all those types of takes come

flying what do you say to that it wasn't great but then again it was in the downpour the entire game I've never seen anything like that but the Niners man like you want to be this this championship team, I don't care what the weather is, you didn't play well. No. You rushed for 176. Great. Trey Lance threw the ball 13 of 28 for 164. And you scored 10 points.

Two turnovers to the Bears, one turnover. You did the ball longer than them. You were better on third down than them. Obviously, way too early to go, Jimmy Garoppolo. I made the joke about it on the internet. them obviously way too early to go jimmy garoppolo i made the joke about it on the internet but it's really hard to judge anything because it was so wet except the fact that niners just can't lose a game like that i have them we have them

under man i do so i mean obviously i was i was fine with what happened but you you just not the game i expect them to lose but i like that no debo had that fumble uh heading towards the end zone blame the the weather if you want but that didn't look great uh yeah so I'm sticking with Trey Lance as well I'm not too worried yet that was a weird game uh okay Matt Stafford I got to go back to Thursday so the champs lost on Thursday night Matt Stafford and then all the takes started coming out and go Matt Stafford is who he's always been you know he, magic in a bottle last year, Super Bowl run was great, but, you know, led the league in picks. He's always been this guy, whether he's in Detroit and L.A.

You've seen a lot of those takes. So is Matt Stafford still a pretty damn good quarterback on a very, very good team, or is he just a ho-hum quarterback who got hot? You know, in the middle, probably somewhere. By the way, since we are patting myself on the back on this podcast yeah please take a victory also i suggested that if jimmy grappler was released he'd end up in los angeles and guess what report came out sunday jimmy grappler was released he'd end up in los angeles oh ah no intent information just using this this brain of mine yeah well look again the whole you know

didn't play in the preseason again no odell offensive line struggled without whitworth there so i think it again i'm not gonna read too much into it they get the falcons this weekend i'll kind of worry more about them if i see some more issues but the elbow thing i don't think is i don't think it's anything like i think it's it's a real thing that they'll have to deal with all season long. I think it's just an excuse to point out that he and Clayton Kershaw went to high school together. The broadcast seems obsessed with bringing that up.

Wait, they did? No way. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. Who knew? All right, how about this one? Because a lot of people talked themselves into Trevor Lawrence this offseason. I don't really know why. I think the assumption was with the new coach, quarterback friendly coach, everything

would get better in Jacksonville. They lose the commanders. And even though Trevor Lawrence didn't play so bad himself, people start going negative. This is a funny tweet from a guy named Carrington Harrison. Trevor Lawrence played well one time against Alabama and has gotten a pass ever since. Should we be bagging on Trevor Lawrence already? No, it's one game with a new coach. All right. No, no, no. Even though he lost to a team with a quarterback that is just,

we just, it's unacceptable to lose that team with that quarterback. And guess what? We will not talk about that team or that quarterback, nor will we talk about the guy that replaced him in Indy. We're skipping right past Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz. I thought Houston would win, by the way. So there we go. Okay, I'm not talking about it.

Those games were unwatchable and uninteresting to everyone involved. But Mac Jones sucks, and everyone's piling on him. And I'd like you to go ahead and tell us if that's the right thing to do. Are we surprised an offense run by Matt Patricia with Joe Jones' offensive line coach isn't any good? No, the quarterback named Mac Jones. Like, what do you think is going to happen? It's, by the way, it's Pittsburgh, New England this weekend. First 14 points wins.

No, I'm not. Again, part of this discussion about overreaction game, it starts with what your expectations are heading into the season, right? So if you expected the Patriots to be under 8.5 wins, this podcast did, then them losing to the Dolphins in bad manner is exactly what I thought it would be, right? Just for example, I saw people say,

I had to tweet this last night, I basically thought everything kind of went as planned in week manner. It's exactly what I thought it would be, right? Just for example, I saw people say, I had to tweet this last night. I basically thought everything kind of went as planned in week one. Well, you didn't plan the Giants to beat the Titans. No, you're right. But I also didn't think the Titans were going to be any good this year. So it doesn't surprise me.

So you have to evaluate this based on your expectations. And my expectations were for this team not to be very good. Hey man, I'm not here to talk you out of that. Patriots sucking is something I've been waiting for for a long, long time. Calm down, Jets fan. I'm not a Jets fan. I'm a reformed Jets fan. Were you and Carton like flackoing it up together this weekend? You guys like bro out a little bit over the flacko? Hey, you know, I would love nothing more than to sit around talking ball with Craig Carton, but that's what you get to do over on Fox, Jeff.

Every now and then. I'm very happy to have a week at home, though. I'll take that. I bet you are. Let's come back and talk about a few of the other games we missed and hit some college ball and some silly stuff. Oh, yeah. Let's do it.

We'll move the line next. All right, Jeff, we're back. You mentioned the Jets, not my Jets, the Jets. They got beat by Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. No shock there. So over under 0.5 seasons, Lamar plays on the franchise transition tag that he's sort of saddled with right now. He's making $23 million guaranteed on a franchise. He didn't sign the long-term deal. I think zero. Zero. I said this the other day. What if the Ravens franchise tag him and the Eagles or Dolphins? You know what?

We're taking those two first-round draft picks we got. I know the Dolphins have one now. And send it over for the Ravens. I just don't think the Ravens can afford a franchise. Well, walk people through that because I know what you're getting at, but I think the audience needs to hear what that would be. When you franchise tag someone,

they can be traded for. It just costs a lot of assets. I think it's two first-round draft picks. And so most of the time, most quarterbacks don't get franchised. The ones that do are like Kirk Cousins. You're not trading two first-round draft picks for him. If you're the Eagles or the Dolphins,

you might trade two first round picks for Lamar Jackson. So I think the Ravens would be wise not to franchise tag him, figure something out and move it along. But it sounds like they're very far apart, Gabe, right? Yes. Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson wants 231 million. And we talked about this. It's guaranteed he should ask for.

And they're not like, they're a hundred million he should ask for. And they're $100 million away from that. They're not even close. So he might have to plan another attack. But does he want to leave too? I don't know if he wants to stay. My impression from Chris Mortensen gave a pretty detailed report of how it's been going. My impression to you and the team was, I don't know.

We all wondered if Lamar was screwing himself by not having an agent, but I kind of feel like he's played this situation pretty damn well and been a pretty decent guy to his team, his teammates and his fan base. So I don't know, man. Like I think he wants to stay there. I just think he realizes like if Deshaun Watson's getting 230 million guaranteed and every other quarterback in the league is getting paid, he should to stay there. I just think he realizes, like, if Deshaun Watson's getting $230 million guaranteed

and every other quarterback in the league is getting paid, he should get paid too. Well, I'm all for his position. I'm very in strong agreement that he should get paid exactly that. But, again, the Ravens are that far away. I mean, why would he want to stay if they don't even value him at that price? Yeah. Well, that's fair. I mean, respect means something.

You keep tweeting this every few weeks when we see a new quarterback sign a new deal that the pat mahomes deal keeps getting better and better at any point can pat walk into the office and say hey guys i've noticed the trends let's renegotiate he can but i don't think he wants to okay he strikes me as a guy who is not doing this to be the highest paid quarterback okay now it's easy to say that when you have all these endorsements coming in and you know you have other things that you're making money from but like does he does he strike you as someone who's going to demand to be the highest paid quarterback?

Not to me and not to people that I know that know him. I don't know if I've ever met Pat in real life. He doesn't strike me as someone who would do it. Now, could he certainly ask for that? The Chiefs have to say yes, probably. But I don't think he's that guy. Okay. I was just curious.

All right, next question. Justin Jefferson, I want you to help me with his over-under on his MVP chances. So let's just say over-under 10.5%, wide receiver to win the MVP. Oh, man, he's playing well. I mean, they'd have to win the division, right? He'd have to have 2,000 yards and then win the division. He needs a Cooper Cup-type season on a winning team. Yeah, so I would say under, but he's he's fun to watch tell you that yeah he really is i i mean we knew he

was a pretty good player coming out lsu but he was like whatever fifth sixth receiver taken i don't think anyone realized he could do what he's been doing especially with cousins so what about cousins over under 11 and a 11.5% MVP. No chance. Okay. All right. Then let's go to the three names I would consider your MVP favorites going in and after a week. So Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert. Is that the right order?

Overall in the league. I guess Tom Brady has to be in there somewhere. But Mahomes, Allen, Herbert. It's probably Mahomes, Allen, big drop off Herbert. Big drop off Herbert. Yeah. Not to say Herbert. What if Herbert beats Mahomes this week?, big drop off Herbert. Big drop off Herbert. Yeah, not to say Herbert. What if Herbert beats Mahomes this week? Yeah, it would definitely change.

I mean, I think Herbert has to be the best team, on the best team in the AFC Conference to win this award. And I don't think it's going to happen. Yeah. All right, fair enough. Let's shift gears here. This blends both college and NFL. How long is too long for replay review over under five minutes? That's an absurdly long amount

of time. This comes from a tweet our buddy Colin tweeted. If a replay takes five minutes, initial call should just stand. Pretty good. And this was in regards to a Stanford touchdown, by the way, against USC because Colin had the first half Stanford plus six and a half. Otherwise, I'm surprised he was able to tweet this through his USC colored glasses. I'm surprised too. I think it's because he had Stanford plus 6.5 in the first. At least that was his tweet he put out,

that he had Stanford plus 6.5 for the first half. Well, this also happened a few minutes in real time after Pitt had a very similar, very close call. Oh, so maybe he's watching Pitt. But yeah, it took five minutes. And at the end, I was like, you probably still scored a touchdown. Like, did you?

I still actually don't know why they reversed it. Like, it was back in the corner of the end zone. Tremaine was back there. I thought he caught it. I mean, it would have mattered. And actually, it would have covered technically in the end if he had caught that ball. But nonetheless, yeah, I've been this way

for a long time about replay. It's too long. And there should be a bunch of dudes sitting in a bar. they buzz in the bar hey is this a catch or not and they're just like they just hit a buzzer yes or no like that simple yeah that's it like is is was replay put into place to see if a guy at home plate is actually slid and hit the top of the base or not is that really what replay is for? He beat the throw. Yes or no? He beat the throw.

Cool. Did his foot touch home plate? Is it slid across home plate? Who gives a fuck? He's safe. I don't get the point of the replay. It's supposed to fix egregious errors, not five minutes on that tiny little screen on the field with guys in a replay booth like that

was a touchdown in a stanford game i agree even though i didn't want it to be when we're measuring like the shadow that a heel creates on the sideline in an unbelievably athletic catch that everyone in the in the moment said wow what a catch and celebrated to undo that because of a shadow of a heel on a sideline seems silly to me especially if it wastes five minutes uh by the way hank is revealing his crazy here i don't even know why i'm saying this bryce young's shin was down i mean good lord oh and that and that on. Okay, very quickly, very quickly, very quickly. On that play that he scrambled out and got the first. Everyone's upset about the right tackle holding, okay?

Alabama. Listen to me, guys. That's not a holding, okay? The right tackle literally lifted the defensive end off the ground. The play was over, okay? He does not know that Bryce Young took off. He's just holding. He's literally grabbed the guy.

His hands are inside. The defensive end's feet was off the ground. He had him that big of a hold of him. That's legal, by the way. That's how we block, with our freaking hands. He grabbed him. Yeah, no, no shit he did. That's how we block.

It wasn't a holding. Bryce Young left the pocket. He didn't know it. And as soon as he saw, he let go. Not a holding. Sorry, Hank, you all lost. I think that whole roughing the passer thing was the oddest thing I've ever seen in a game

according to a penalty. They just decided to take off a roughing the passer, as they should have. It's a terrible call. But it was also a safety, I think. Like, it was a very odd sequence. Texas was almost back. This close, Gabe, to being back.

They were pretty close to being back until they weren't. That was a great game to watch the end of. Sorry for Hank. Hank was sitting in what looked... I think Hank was watching the game from a drone above the stadium from the pictures he shared with us. Had they won, it would have taken Hank about 15 minutes to make it to field

level to try to storm the field with the kids that he isn't anymore. So it's probably better for the show that Hank not put himself through that. That way he'd be ready for a tough Sunday and Monday. So good thing Texas lost. He would have been down there after it was over. Guys, I'm here to party.

We've already rushed the field, buddy. We're done. Hank would have just got there now from after it was over. Guys, I'm here to party. I'm here to party. We've already rushed the field, buddy. We're done. Hank would have just got there now from where he was sitting. Here's a question. Speaking of stadiums and what it should be like in a stadium. Over under three and a half years until every NFL stadium has a roof of some kind. No, bad call. Why?

Because I like the elements. No. So you're wrong about this. because I like the elements no so you're wrong about this there is no reason why the fact that we ruined the planet us human beings that we're now going to ruin

our favorite sport as well that was an unwatchable game in Chicago the two most mobile young fun quarterbacks in the league couldn't do anything they literally did slip and slide after yeah that was the that's why it's worth it yeah in the league couldn't do anything. They literally did slip and slide after the game. Yeah, that's why it's worth it.

Yeah. No, that's a baseball thing. That's fun for a baseball rain delay. A football game has to be played on that ground, and they can't. Also, it's hot as crap in most of these stadiums. You've been to the Coliseum. You don't want to be sitting out there.

Yeah, but I mean, who wants to go to the Coliseum, though? Dude, point is, there's a lot of weather issues, and this notion that you can, our buddy Nick Wright was arguing for this, that you're going to build your team based on where you play. Come on. No one does that. How realistic is that, really? No one does

that. Well, that's the theory, is if you know you play at Lambeau, you can build your team for the advantages of playing at Lambeau. That's not a thing that happens. Okay. So all the more reason. Just put some roofs on. No, I don't like it.

I'm not saying don't have the roof open. I'm just saying have the option. Don't like it. So you want to have a convertible that can't put the top up? Yes. You just want to have to drive around in the elements at all times? You suck. All right.

How about this one? Can we cancel kickers? Oh, man. Over under 30% of guys in the NFL could do a serviceable job as a kicker, just like Justin Reed did. Well, Justin Reed did an incredible job yesterday. I mean, the Chiefs backup kicker was their safety. He was better than half the kickers in the NFL.

Yesterday was your best day you've had in a long time for banning the kickers, man. You and Larry David were in, and I even said at one point, I think cancel all kickers. It was bad, bad, bad, bad. Like there were some bad misses. Kickers blowing games for their team. Kickers winning games. They shouldn't be winning for their, you know, it was just kickers involved. One thing too, kickers are too good now.

The kid Cade York for the Browns hit a 59-yard field goal to win the game, 58-yard field goal. It was good from 75 yards. Like, he smashed the ball. McPherson, the Bengals kicker, had a 59-yard yarder. Good from 75 yards. Smashed the ball. That's too easy now.

It's too easy to drive down the field and get three points to win a game. It used to be much harder. You had to get to the 30-yard line. Now you get to the 40, the 43 for a 60-yard field goal, you get a chance to win. Yeah, by the way, I'm doing this with no notes. That's how plugged in I was. Get ready.

I'm going to blow Hank's mind. Burt Austin kicked the game winner that didn't hold up, but the game winner for Texas, absolute bomb. That thing would have been good from 65. College kid. Oh, yeah. One of the goofiest looking kickers I've ever seen. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. The dicker, the kicker's not there anymore. No, it's some guy named Bert Austin. Austin? Auburn? Who the hell knows? It doesn't matter. We're at that point in the show where we should stop.

Over under 0.5 losses for usc we can leave on this one so how about this so usc gets a test as we go from fresno usc do you know the turnover margin so far gabe this year i would i would say it's like nine to two plus eight eight turnovers forced zero turnovers it's pretty close but jeff i said nine to two i mean they have scored 53 points off turnovers which is a first season that would be a lot when they stop turning the ball over i have to play defense a little bit and that's gonna be a problem the defense is not good i know any way you want to cut it yeah they're going to lose in corvallis in two weekends and the best part about it is the game is on Pac-12 network

USC at Oregon State in two Saturdays it's at 6 30 pacific 9 30 eastern the best game of the Pac-12 slate that weekend is on Pac-12 network it's why USC is leaving um exactly why but they're not winning that game so um I think their defense will cost them one or two games. The defense is just not as bad. And offensively, they've been really good in the first half of these games. And it's hard to tell. I don't know.

Maybe you've thought on this. I feel like they just kind of just shut off the second half. Like it's not really, they're not playing well. They just kind of just decide to go much slower and don't use the same plays. But the second half of both their games have not been as good as the first half offensively.

Well, I think they're sort of straddling. They're doing the like pad for the Heisman thing by leaving the starters out there, but they're also being careful not to, you know, kill anyone or make any enemies in the conference. And so I think,

yeah, the straddle is why that game that should have been a six score blowout became almost sort of a game at one point with Stanford. Yeah. Stanford was driving a cover at the end. Yeah. I mean, it never got really worrisome,

but it's sort of like we talked about with the chargers. We're like, why isn't this thing completely over by now? Oh yeah. I mean, part of that too is the defense is bad. Well, yeah,

they're not, they're not a consistently good defense that stops the other team, but the turnovers have been great. All right, so you're saying over.5 losses. I'm going to stick with the under because really two of the biggest tests on the schedule preseason looked like Utah and Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not good. And Notre Dame certainly doesn't look like anything to worry about.

So last question, bonus question before we go. Most embarrassing loss of the weekend, Texas A&M or Notre Dame? Or you can pick from the field. So Notre Dame just appears to not be as good this season and they played Marshall at home and lost. Yeah, appears so.

It's A&M for one reason only. App State's much better than Marshall, so you've created App State here. But A&M talks so much shit about how good they, they're going to be and how good they are when they never win 10 games. They've only 10 games once in 30 years, have been to playoff. They go to BCS bowl.

Like they talk all this crap about how good they are without winning any of the good games, without even big games. Like they don't win. They don't win for as much as they talk so to me it was laughing about that i'm sure hank loves me talking shit about a and m but like it just that they just it's a and m at home app that get app states much better than marshall but don't even seem that good and they look that good against clemson either. So, not Clemson, Ohio State. So,

it's A&M for me. A&M for me. Can't talk you off that. App State though, how about, how about them? Just, you know,

every couple decades, App State pops up and ruins I got game day coming this weekend now. The Boone, North Carolina. Boone. Against, against Troy.

You ever been to Boone? I've not been to Boone. I probably should go. I've been to Boone. You have been. Been to Boone. Oh yeah, I got caught in a snowstorm in Boone. Might snow this weekend in Boone. I probably should go. I've been to Boone. You have been. I've been to Boone. Oh, yeah, I got caught in a snowstorm in Boone.

It might snow this weekend in Boone. It was snowing in Colorado Springs for the Air Force Colorado game this weekend. Yeah. Well, I think people don't realize because most of the time when you think about North Carolina, obviously you know this better than I do. People think North Carolina. They think about the beach towns. They think about hot and sticky weather.

It's cold as shit up in the Appalachians. Yeah, Boone's in the mountains, yeah. Out by Asheville. Everyone who has been there or goes there likes it a lot. Daniel Jeremiah, obviously App State quarterback he brags about all the time. So, I mean, it must

not, actually take it back, it's nowhere near Asheville. It's I wasn't going to try to question your knowledge of your home state. There's nowhere near Asheville. Basically, it's in West Virginia, isn't it? Yeah. It's north of Charlotte. Asheville's west of Charlotte.

Yeah, it looks like on the map too. Yeah, it's basically West Virginia. It's like Tennessee or West Virginia, either or. West Virginia, sometimes we have these NASCAR races, not sometimes, all the time in North Carolina. And like the people from West Virginia come on down from the mountains to uptown Charlotte. It is quite the scene of people watching.

Watch it. My people are from West Virginia, Jeff. Wait, your Jewish family is from West Virginia? No, the other side of my let's say there's no chance jews are from the jews are from new york there's no chance there's no chance um other side of my family's from uh buchanan west my this means nothing to anyone listening but um my uh my pilates instructor who i've been with heather for like 10 years now she's from west virginia too and we talk about watching you all the time. I'm very fascinated by,

I stayed one night in Charleston. Is that the capital, right? Or Huntington's the capital. Whatever the capital is. Charleston. I believe Charleston, where the university is, right? And that's Morgantown.

Morgantown. And Huntington's where Marshall's at. That's my point. So I think at Charleston, I remember being like, this is the capital? All right, cool. So yeah, West Virginia, you have a piece of Gabe's heart.

Not mine, but just Gabe's heart. Have you been before? I don't think anyone listening at this point in the show. Yeah, I've been to West Virginia. It's a beautiful state. I'm sure it is. It's beautiful. So people listening in West Virginia, give Jeff shit on Twitter.

You're back making picks in a couple days with Matt. Yeah, 4-1 first week. We did it. We start strong every year. Got to finish stronger than we did last year. All right, guys. Really enjoyed it. We start strong every year. Got to finish stronger than we did last year. All right, guys. Really enjoyed it. We have a weekend of football in the books so far.

Monday Night Football tonight. Really eventful game. I mean, I may or may not stay awake. We'll find out. Please rate, review, subscribe. Really appreciate you got some more reviews lately. It's been nice to hear you guys and see what you're saying about the show. Really appreciate it.

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