Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Geoff and Friends' Official 2022 Mock Draft

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

Geoff is back, and he brought the whole gang with him to mock the first round of the 2022 NFL draft. Listen in to hear Geoff, Gabe, Matt, and Hank talk through every pick of the first round...... and don't worry! They have your team taking exactly who you want them to.If you enjoyed this episode, follow the pod so you can be notified when next week's draft award show with Geoff and Gabe comes out to recap this year's best (and worst) picks. As always, be sure to rate this episode, and tweet @geoffschwartz if you think he got any picks wrong (spoiler: he didn't).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 it's Tuesday April 26 I'm Jeff Schwartz alongside everyone we're all here for Jeff Schwartz's Smarter You is our mocked draft episode we're all here me Gabe Matt Hank and we're going to do a 32 team mock draft as we prepare for the NFL draft on Thursday this is our favorite episode of the year it's a lot of fun we're going to snake draft I think I don't know they put together the draft order we're all going to kind of choose for like some of our favorite episode of the year. It's a lot of fun. We're going to snake draft. I think, I don't know, they put together the draft order. We're all going to kind of choose for like some of our favorite teams, teams I played on. Matt has the commander so he can pick someone that no one thinks he's going to do. Remember, guys, Nick doesn't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:00:37 So we'll see what happens between Nick and Hank as we move forward. Gabe, how are you, buddy? Can you hear me? You just froze, but I don't know if you're there. Oh, I'm here buddy i'm here and i would say the fact that nick has no idea what how football works and hank is amateur to everything in life means it's very appropriate that they are a team and they will be picking on behalf of the jets matt how are you it's been a while how you doing? I'm good. You know, Gabe runs this place and booted me off my own show, which is my favorite thing to do every week with Jeff. So it's nice to see you. I'm glad between Boss Gabe and Boss Hank, I was allowed back on this air. Great to see you.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I am glad you're here because you, out of all of us, are very football knowledgeable. I know you've been betting the markets. I, by the way, a couple weeks ago, put a wager in for Aiden Hutchinson to go number two overall, plus 330. And I feel pretty smart about that. As we get closer to the draft, there's more talk today. On Monday, as we record this, of Trayvon Walker going number one to Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:01:36 But as we start this, again, we're going to kind of go in the order that Hank has put together. Again, not really snake order. Maybe it is. I'm kind of looking here. I think it might be. Who knows? We're all going to have different picks. Again, not really snake order. Maybe it is. I'm kind of looking here. I think it might be. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:01:46 We're all going to have different picks. We'll go through the picks. We'll each make a pick. When it's our turn, I'll say whether or not we like it. We'll laugh a little bit about them, I would imagine. But Gabe, because you're the Tom Brady of the show,
Starting point is 00:01:58 you're the best. We're going to let you go first. Wow. I don't think you meant that quite as a compliment, but I'll take it anyway. And I'm going to make this a time saver. But Jeff, you just gave me a really interesting segue. You feel like you feel good about Aiden Hutchinson going number two. But I feel like as the Jags representative, we have to be smart about this. We have to go very little risk, high brand. We can't risk another season of Jacksonville Jaguars hell and so we're going to go with the player who's probably the best player who's definitely the easiest player to market to our team this year and that's Aiden Hutchinson we're not going to screw around
Starting point is 00:02:36 we're not going to get cute Aiden Hutchinson number one this is the pick it should be right Javon Walker is a high upside guy but where where's the production at, right? If you're Jacksonville, to your point, you need something that's not going to screw up because of last year with Urban Meyer. And 800 is that guy. Is he going to be an all pro? I don't know, but he's probably not going to be a bust either, right? And so I think 800 in here is the exact right pick for Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:03:01 You've got yourself a defensive end. I'm telling you, man, the favorite right now is Trevon Walker today. So I don't know what's going to happen here. With the Lions at number two, that's me. Look, I think they want a quarterback, but they're not taking one now. I would not be surprised. I think maybe at 32 as we get to the back end of the first round. I have Kayvon Thibodeau and I have Trevon Walker.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Look, I think that KT is better now and will be a better pro, but I think the Lions are going to take Trevon Walker if he's here. I don't, I just, the Dan Campbell lunch pail thing and the hard no stuff and everything we hear about Kayvon Thibodeau, which I have vehemently disagreed with why you won't draft a guy, but I'm doing this based off of what I think teams are going to do. I think the Lions are going to go with Trevon Walker in this situation.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I have Trevon Walker from Georgia with a lack of production, a little worrisome going at number two because I think the Lions would take him over Kayvon Thibodeau. It seems like those are going to be the top two in some order. Would we say that that's the consensus right now?
Starting point is 00:04:02 Oh, yeah. I think that if the Lions, if Hutchinson fell to them, they'd sprint to the board like immediately hand that ticket in consensus right now. Oh, yeah. I think that if the Lions, if Hutchinson fell to them, they'd sprint to the board, like immediately hand that ticket in, right? Like they would draft Hutchinson in a heartbeat, right? Michigan kid playing Detroit. If not, it's going to be Walker. Again, I tell you, the Kimon Thibodeau stuff, enough smoke is out there.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But I just don't believe it's good enough reason to not draft him high. Oh, he doesn't love football. I think he loves football plenty. But you're right right those are going one and two in my opinion so number three now for the just moving along matt you have the texans the the functional texans i sure do speaking of people who love football lovey smith back in the mix the houston texans new era has begun and with davis mills the franchise you got to protect him, Jeff. So in a run of offensive linemen who I'm not sure who's going to be good, I might ask for your input here.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm thinking a Kwan Wu here at number three. What do you think of that, or should they go with Evan Neal? I think that if you're looking at a physical tone setter, Icky is that guy. I'm not saying Evan's not. The pass production concerns kind of bother me, and teams do view Icky as a guard tackle. So if you draft Icky here,
Starting point is 00:05:09 and some people have him as the best offensive lineman. I have him number two, so it's not that bad if you draft him here. But you also play him at guard, which is important, right? You have position flexibility, and he's just a tone setter. This would be a good pick for Houston
Starting point is 00:05:21 who really needs just some stability, right? And just good players, right? If you come out of this draft with good players, good players, then you're winning. That's what they have to do. And so Icky's going to be a good player. This is where I think they might go if this is the way the draft unfolds. So Icky it is.
Starting point is 00:05:40 All right, Hank and Nick, I don't know how you guys are doing this pick, but figure it out. You have the Jets. This will be a smarter process than anything the Jets actually do guaranteed I think Nick's here for audience and comedic relief but this is going to be the easiest pick I make all day because the best player in the draft is still on the board um the Jets have two picks inside the top 10 I think it's okay if they take a risk they're drafting Kayvonibodeau, and he'll be better than Trayvon Walker and Aiden Hutchinson in the first place. Hey, man, I don't disagree with that. Kiss ass. No.
Starting point is 00:06:09 He's kiss assing for you. You're a Jets fan. He knows that you want the Jets to be really good. Secretly, you want them to be very good. So this is your opportunity for the Jets to be good again. Nobody on this show wants the Jets to be good, Jeff. Stop. There's no Jet fan here. And he is a kiss ass because he just wanted to say to boss Jeff
Starting point is 00:06:28 that he liked Kayvon Thibodeau so he could say more things about Kayvon Thibodeau. He doesn't know anything about Kayvon Thibodeau. Look, here's the deal with KT. I understand the on-the-field concerns. It was a little stiff at times. You know, the lack of effort running down the field, I think that's less concerning. You know, when you get effort running down the field, I think that's less concerning. You know, when you get to the NFL,
Starting point is 00:06:47 this isn't going to be acceptable. Like, in college, you have less of a say. Like, you're just going to say, run harder, and if you don't, what, are you not going to play the best player on the field? No. But the NFL is not going to be able to get away with that. So I think that hustling down the field,
Starting point is 00:06:59 plus we saw him do it the first two years, and last year, when he got hurt, he just stopped running down the field. I'm not concerned about Kayvon Thibodeau. I'm really not. So Jets last year we got hurt. He just stopped running down the field. I'm not concerned about cave on Thibodeau. I'm really not. So jets have landed themselves a good football player. Gabe, you have the New York giants who share a stadium with the jets.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yes, they do. Listen, here's a team that even more than the Jags who I just picked for has like no wiggle room. They cannot screw this up. I think they know that finally, I think they won't get cute. I think they're thrilled that the jets just took Thibodeau and not an offensive lineman because they need an offensive lineman to protect the running back
Starting point is 00:07:37 and the quarterback. The only two things they have. So we're going with Evan Neal from Alabama. This would be a home run pick for the Giants. I cannot stress enough that if this ends up being what they do, the Giants fans will be supremely happy with the draft. They can put him at left tackle, at right tackle, and just be better. He's got the best feet, not the best feet per se, but the best pass projection feet, I think, of any offensive tackle in this draft.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Alabama kid, played multiple positions, very mature. Needs to work a little bit on just the end of his blocks. He gets into blocks good, pass project as well. This could be like the steal of the draft. You look back and you're like, wow, they got the best offensive alignment at five. When other teams end up taking Icky at three, or even the Jets taking Thibodeau or Walker or Hutchinson above them. So I love this pick here.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Neal off the board at six. All right, Carolina Panthers here. I have the Panthers. I'm in Charlotte. I think they desperately want a quarterback, but I just can't do it. I can't do it. None of these guys are good enough to go here. I think the Panthers want to trade back.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I think if they had their ideal situation, they would trade back here. So I'm going with the next best tackle on the board charles cross mississippi state come on down you're carolina panther they need offensive lineman man i think that you can make a case that charles cross and baker mayfield are better than you would get like kenny pickett and whatever tackle you draft in the fourth round they don't have a second or third round picked the panthers don't i think they would love to trade back in my opinion but no one's going to trade back, in my opinion, but no one's going to trade up.
Starting point is 00:09:07 That's the thing. Who's trading up for a guy in this draft? So give me Charles Cross here from Mississippi State. Great pass protector. Fits right in with the Panthers. I am very happy if I'm Carolina with Charles Cross. They've been looking for alignment since a guy named Jeff Schwartz left town. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:09:24 You just sort of threw Baker Mayfield. Yeah. You just threw Baker Mayfield in there. Like that was a topic we'd already been discussing. Do you think Carolina is a draft day dealer for Baker? I think day two, yeah. I think that the problem is the salary, right? The Browns have to eat that $18 million. But I certainly think that Carolina will be better served.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Look, if Matt Rule needs to win now, Baker can win him nine or ten games. Maybe that's too much. Eight to ten games, right? Sam Darnold's not winning him anything. He's going to get fired with Sam Darnold. You get Baker Mayfield healthy, you pay him $8 million a year, have a left tackle,
Starting point is 00:09:56 you have some weapons on that team, and you save your job. I think Baker Mayfield could certainly be a Carolina Panther after round one. It's not going to happen Thursday. It'll happen Friday, if anything. I heard Adebo Samuel for that pick rumor, too, which would be kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:09 If we're at number seven here, I'm up next with the Giants again. If no quarterback has been taken yet, you have to think maybe New Orleans trades up here, or somebody trades up here and maybe grabs the top quarterback in the class, but we don't do trades.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So I am going to pick for the Giants again. I'm going to take Sauce Gardner here, Jeff. I think with Wink Martindale in there, they're going to be blitzing a lot. They need somebody who can make some plays in the backfields. Give me Sauce in New York. What do you think? This is becoming a very chalky draft. I feel like we promised a non-chalky draft.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And so, but yeah, this is the next pickup here. I mean, he's going to be the next highest graded player. The Giants have left this draft after round one with a starting tackle and a starting corner. Home run, slam dunk for the brand new staff. I like sauce. So there's some talk about Stingley Jr. from LSU kind of moving back up.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Remember after his freshman year, there was talk about him being the best corner in the draft. But I do think it's going to be Sauce here if it ends up playing out like this just because he's the next best player available at a position of need for the Giants. And now, Hank, you have the Atlanta Falcons. So the Falcons could take any position and it would be a team need because their roster is pretty much completely devoid of talent.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Because all the quarterbacks are left on the board, I'm tempted to take a flyer on like a Malik Willis. But I think I got to go Jamison Williams. No, Jamison Williams is 6'2", super fast. I can't remember the last time a receiver Alabama was bad. two super fast i can't remember the last time a receiver alabama was bad and also if gabe can name a wide receiver on the falcons besides calvin ridley i'll quit my job is he even on the falcons anymore let's pipe down he's not even really on the team anymore and i don't need to name a wide receiver on the falcons because they won't be able to catch anything because they don't have a quarterback so they would have taken a quarterback dum-dum, but sure, take the Alabama wide receiver if you want. So Williams is probably not going to
Starting point is 00:12:10 play for parts of this season. This is definitely looking down the road, but most people view him as the best wide receiver. Like if he was healthy, he'd easily be the best guy. And so I don't think you can go wrong here. I like this pick for Atlanta, more weapons for a future quarterback next year. And as you mentioned, a multiple position of need. So I am on board with Jamison Williams. He is a consensus big board 12th, 12th right now. We have him going eighth. So it's kind of about where he is.
Starting point is 00:12:40 He is viewed around the, around the mock draft community. All right, Gabe, you have the Seahawks. Okay, this was the Broncos pick, part of that deal for Russ. Look, I think what's really going to happen is that quarterbacks are just going to slide all the way out of the first round. I think as much as there's hype for Trayvon Walker all of a sudden, I think the hype against quarterbacks is going to be very loud and very real the next few days.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So even though Seattle obviously needs a quarterback just like Atlanta, I don't think they go there. And I think Pete can't help himself but try to bring back that Legion of Boom to think about the defensive secondary, to go ahead and get the best player he can to help shore up their pass defense. So I'm going to go with a guy I don't know a whole heck of a lot about, but he has the pedigree. Derek Stingley Jr. out of LSU. Seems like he fits with what they've done historically. What do you think, Jeff? I have not seen many people put Stingley here just because, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Wow, that's interesting. Have you guys seen any mock drafts with Stingley in number nine? I have not. I've seen him with off the tackle. I could see pass rusher here as well. But I think defensively, they could use as much help as anyone, right? I mean, their defense has kind of fallen off the last
Starting point is 00:13:52 couple years. I don't dislike it. I don't know. I'll be right to him. I don't know his personal fit on this defense. I don't know if he's the corner that Pete Carroll wants in the defense, but he's a real football player. And that, to me, I think matters most here here and you're getting him below Gardner and immediate starter right away.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I'm fine with the game. I just don't know how he matches the defense. I can't tell you a scheme wise if he's good, but we know he's a good football player, which is very important. So I'm good with that. And they're going to have to play some of the best receivers in football in their division.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So I, it just seems, seems like something that I got to do. I'm with you. I'm with that. And they're going to have to play some of the best receivers in football in their division. So it just seems like something they got to do. I'm with you. I'm with you. I think this is pretty, we should mention, we've gotten through the Panthers, the Falcons, and the Seahawks. I don't know if I could, I guess Sam Darnold's one of those starters. I don't know if any of those teams has a starter who can last for even four games with any credibility and we've just passed on all of the quarterbacks like i think there's no i'm i disagree with game quite strongly i think they're we're gonna see somebody talk themselves into either a trade-up for malik willis or somebody will just say screw it let's give kenny pickett a shot i just think that there's no way we get to what what, number 10 here with no quarterback off the board, right?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Like, what do you guys think? I think it's likely. If Carolina doesn't do this at six, who's taking them? I mean, again, like, the problem with this class, it is not good enough, Matt, to, like, go out on a limb and take anyone. Like, that's the issue. Like, there's no – even Malik Willis. Like, he can be a superstar, but he can also be a huge bust.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I just think you have better graded players right now, and you take those guys and you just make your team better and you worry about quarterback almost next year. I mean, Seattle for Seattle, I would just be bad and go get yourself C.J. Stroud next year. That to me was what I would do, but obviously I'm not in that spot. I just don't really think the quarterback is good enough to be taken already. I think one will be drafted in the first round, but not here.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Can I read Pete Prisco on Malik Willis? Sure. Quote, he's not a quarterback. What he did at Liberty is not close to being playing quarterback in the NFL. He looks like a running back. He tucks the ball one read and run. At least Josh Allen stood in there
Starting point is 00:16:04 and made throws. You want that guy with the top 10 pick, Matt? I want whoever Pete Prisco thinks sucks. So yes, now I'm trading up for him. That is my official take on this matter. By the way, that's been said about a lot of quarterbacks. I'm sure we can all find the common thread with the ones that that's usually said about. I mean, i didn't watch a ton of liberty games this year i'm guilty of that but the guy who could like do all of the things that everyone says he can do usually somebody talks themselves into that kind of person well no i they will talk themselves into malik willis he's not a running back but i mean i think peter's right in that he just there's just a ton of bust a boomer bust with him like it's he's not again he's not a running back but like there's a lot
Starting point is 00:16:46 of people that are going to look at him and be like, yeah, we just don't have time to get him ready. I think that Malik Willis, I know zero about him, which I'm happy to admit. I've never heard of him. I've never seen him play. I wouldn't have known his skin color, his style of quarterbacking, his age,
Starting point is 00:17:02 anything about him. Nothing. Except I know this every year from about February 15th till about the last week of April, we have to talk ourselves into some hidden gem, unknown commodity that is going to be the next Patrick Mahomes. And Malik Willis, unfortunately for him, got dubbed that guy from about February 15th till now. And then suddenly people looked at it and were like, huh? Why are we
Starting point is 00:17:27 pretending this guy's a first-rounder? I think it was unfair to him. He could have been a sleeper. Well, I think part of it is they're just not those top guys at the top of the class. You try to find yourselves with those guys that he has some of the physical traits you've seen in other quarterbacks that weren't very good in college, but popped with those
Starting point is 00:17:44 physical traits were able to be used. I just i just i we're gonna go to pittsburgh later but like i just don't think anyone takes me before pittsburgh pittsburgh is like jumping up and down on the table if we're at pick 10 with the next teams that are coming up and they've got their choice pickett and willis and like some of these other guys who you know there's some buzz about matt corral maybe maybe being picked a a little ahead of where people think. I don't know if he would go in the top 10, but there's going to be some big surprise where we're like, who? What? Ritter maybe? Somebody's going to go and we're all going to be stunned. Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:16 But it's not going to happen at pick 10 because the Jets are taking Drake London here at number 10. They need a wide receiver. I love Drake London. And Washington cannot have him. No. I think Drake London's a perfect fit for them. They have kind of those speedy skill guys. Now they need a big possession wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I love Drake London and watch a lot of him at USC. He had 88 catches last year in an offense called throw to Drake London. That was the offense last year. He is big. He's physical. He goes and gets the ball with his hands, which I think is supremely important. Matt, I'm sorry for your commanders,
Starting point is 00:18:51 but at number 10, I am taking Drake London from USC to be New York Jet. Man, that is devastating for the commies locker room. I'm just not sure how we're going to recover from that. I really like Drake London. I think he's going to be a stud and would have taken him at number 11. But instead, go ahead. Can we talk for a second?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Gabe, the non-Jets fan over here, was nodding very approvingly of my Jets pick. So continue while we ponder that Gabe hates the Jets. Go ahead, Matt. No, I'm actually upset as a current Trojans fan and former Jets fan that Drake London, who I like, is going to be banished to hell. And his potential great NFL career is all for naught because you just made him a Jet. Were you one of the couple thousands at the spring game on Saturday? I did not go.
Starting point is 00:19:39 You know, I missed Colin. He gave me a full report on the spring game. Colin Cowherd's Trojans super fan that he is filled me in. No, I think Drake's going to have a great NFL career if he ends up anywhere but with the New York Jets. Fair enough. All right, Matt. Commanders, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Come on, Matt. Big pick here. So Hank is a fellow Commanders fan. Hank, let's talk this out. Here's who I'm between. You can't offer any other suggestions i'm between garrett wilson which would have the benefit of big position in need for from the commies uh a another ohio state guy to maybe loosen the terry mclaurin contract negotiations up a bit
Starting point is 00:20:17 or i'm very intrigued with kyle hamilton the safety outer notre dame who some people think profiles is this like long time stud but it would be a third defensive pick in three years. And Washington's offense really needs some help. Hank, what's your opinion? Knowing I might fully ignore it. Might. I would go Kyle Hamilton. I don't really think that giving Carson Wentz more weapons is going to do anything for our
Starting point is 00:20:41 offense. And I'd rather take a guy who has the tools and has the draft profile to be a stud for very many years um plus kyle hamilton is cool like he i like like listening to him talk he has a cool podcast i'd rather just get a player that i can root for if we're not gonna be good either way well if he's got a podcast he's got a cool podcast everyone well that makes that makes one of us i I will take Kyle Hamilton here, actually, because the Washington pass defense is atrocious. London I would have gone with because I think he could be special.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I think Wilson and McLaren actually are a little bit redundant. So I'll go with Hamilton who I think is a more unique fit. What do you think, Jeff? I like it. I might have thought wide receiver here too, but I think is a more unique fit. What do you think, Jeff? I like it. I might have thought wide receiver here, too, but I think with a defensive-minded coach, too, you're going to find a defensive player, a corner or safety right here. Stingley falls down here, but Hamilton I think will be here at 11.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I don't really think anyone will take him before this pick. And now we're going to get into the fun part of the draft, where I feel like there's a bunch of team needs, and we kind of just see where guys fall right um let's get to minnesota now you have you have the floor with with the vikings here uh hank i believe yeah i got the vikings i think this one is what they're actually going to do i'm going trent mcduffie who's the corner out of washington lance zerline actually shouted him out on this pod a couple weeks ago he said he was the most talented washington cornerback he's seen since syd Jones before he got hurt McDuffie just seems like a great
Starting point is 00:22:08 quarterback a great piece that could be on that back end love it good football player no one threw him in the Pac-12 because you didn't want to he's that good um you know a little bit on kind of the undersized Washington corner thing but it hasn't mattered in the NFL those guys just play really well um I like Trent McDuffie here. It's a good pick for the Minnesota coach. I forgot his name for months and months and months. It's Kevin O'Connell, right? He's the former Rams
Starting point is 00:22:33 OC, I think. Just nondescript coach, and no one talks about the Vikings, but this is a good fit. It's a good need, and I think McDuffie's a perfect play here for the Vikings again had a long line of Washington cornerbacks all right Gabe you have the Houston Texans yeah so let's just say that I think that the second they they make that third pick overall
Starting point is 00:22:56 they're all dialing everyone in the league trying to deal this pick because I I just think this this is exactly the spot where some whoever might reach for a quarterback is starting to get nervous and probably wants this pick. Agreed. So yeah, okay, good. So then we think that this might get dealt, but let's draft as though they keep it. They aren't going to draft the quarterback because they got to give a year to Davis Mills to see if maybe he's actually kind of good. But more importantly, he's built an excuse for coach if things don't go well this year. So you've got to keep him around and have that excuse for yourself.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I think you've got to get just a legitimately good player, but he has to have some flash and name value. So I'm torn between two guys, one I know nothing about and another who I think should have been picked much earlier. Jermaine Johnson, edge rusher out of Florida State, or Jordan Davis, the monster from Georgia who's obviously NFL ready but for some reason we've talked ourselves out of. I don't know which way to go. The Texans don't always seem like they make the smartest choice.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So I'm going to say Jermaine Johnson. Why not? I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it better than if you had taken Jordan Davis. He left Georgia and went to Florida State at like 12 sacks last year. He had made a big jump in production. Some people view him as like edge one.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Not as far as, I guess it's not edge one is the wrong way to put it, but they view him with the skills to be the best pass rusher in this draft eventually. Not right now, but eventually. So I like this play. It's a need for them. They just need football players that are good. So I'm with you. Let's go with Jermaine Johnson to the old – I mean, look.
Starting point is 00:24:43 The Texans are getting two good players on this draft. That feels very weird for me to say, because for so long they have been such a dumpster fire. But here we go. All right, Johnson, defensive end. We've got four defensive ends off the board. I don't think that's going to be the last we hear from defensive ends. I believe I'm up next, right?
Starting point is 00:24:58 I got Baltimore next. Sure do. This feels like a no-brainer for Baltimore. Jordan Davis, right? Like, big fella in the middle of the defense. no-brainer for Baltimore Jordan Davis right like big fella in the middle of the defense no but him and Calais Campbell the two biggest defensive linemen in the NFL on the same defense I mean Jordan Davis feels like the perfect Baltimore Raven big fella out of Georgia uh not much to be said here I mean fit that defense to a tee gotta work on his pass rush but as far as his ability to stop the run and just kind of be big in the middle of that defense perfect baltimore fit um i like taking davis here it does kind of
Starting point is 00:25:30 make some picks down the road for other teams a little interesting um but we'll talk about that i guess in a few minutes now all right hank and i don't know matt you have the eagles eagles i sure do howie roseman was displeased that jordan dav Davis just went there but he's gonna be okay because a lot of people think he's going back to the well for third receiver in three years the Eagles are too smart to do something like that so they're gonna take Devin Lloyd uh who is the top middle linebacker prospects in this class starting middle linebackers for the Eagles right now Anthony Harris or no sorry that's a safety. Davion Edwards? TJ Edwards?
Starting point is 00:26:06 I think it's not a home run linebacker room there. So we're going to add some firepower with Devin Lloyd. What do we think? I love it. I love it. I love Devin Lloyd, man. I watched him for years in the Pac-12 Conference. He can do it all.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Like, he rushed the pass a little bit last year, but obviously he played in the middle. He's explosive. He can do it all. Like, he rushed the pass a little bit last year, but obviously he played in the middle. He's explosive. He can make plays, like, just interceptions, tackles for loss. Guys, he's the real deal. Like, you're getting a very good football player here, which is important, I think, for Philly. Like, I think Bill Belichick would love if he fell to Bill Belichick.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I mean, that'd be, like, the perfect spot for him as far as the way he plays and what Bill can do. But it's not where he's at. All right, Hank, you have the Saints here at 16 halfway through the first round. Are you going to do it? I think I'm going to do it. The Saints are taking Malik Willis.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And this is good because they're not really expecting to be great this year. They got Jameis Winston back. So I think they can let Willis sit for a year. It seems like that's the cool thing to do with quarterbacks now anyway. Plus, the upside with Willis is incredible. Obviously, he's raw and Liberty isn't exactly the SEC, but if he can convert some of the skills he has, even some of them,
Starting point is 00:27:19 and scratch the surface of his potential, he could be pretty amazing. I know the Saints like a bunch of these offensive tackles, but I can't imagine they'd trade up for one of them. You give a first and second next year for an offensive tackle, so I think they're feeling quarterback here, especially if they can choose who they want. And if this opportunity can choose who they want. And Willis has the most upside.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Might not be the most ready yet. This would be a bold pick, though. This would be a bold pick for a brand new coaching staff to take him. And you're right. He can just sit for a year besides Winston and Lawrence. I'm up next. The Chargers guys. Oh, no. Gabe has a Chargers. I'm sorry. Gabe. Chargers.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Slow down. Who are you going to pick? I feel like the Chargers would be very happy that an offensive tackle named Trevor Penning did not go to the Saints. Can I jump in here quickly? Yes. I want to ask, will anyone on this show make a bet with me that by this pick, the Saints' first pick,
Starting point is 00:28:13 they will not be able to pick the first quarterback off the board? I am willing to bet that a quarterback will go before that pick at what was that, number 15? Oh, no. 16. I'll bet you that. How much do you want to bet? Anybody else?
Starting point is 00:28:25 I'll double up with Jeff. Whatever he bets, I'm in for that. Ooh, all right. 50 each? Let's do it. 50 bucks. All right, perfect. I'll owe you both 50
Starting point is 00:28:33 if there isn't a quarterback picked before 16. Just pay for some tacos next time. Perfect. All right, so Gabe, you have your LA Chargers here. Who do you got? Okay, so you can read have your L.A. Chargers here. Who do you got? Okay. So, you know, you can read up on what people think the Chargers need.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I just need to remind people about the Chargers offseason thus far. That includes adding Khalil Mack. Damn. Forgot about that. Adding J.C. Jackson in the back end. Like, they obviously need a better defense. You don't need to say that too many different ways. Their defense gives up way too many points.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Their offense is clearly one of the best in the NFL. Some people think they'll go receiver. Some people like you, Jeff, think they need help on the right side of their line. So I don't really know. You want me to take Trevor Penning here? I know that. No, take whoever you want. I think you want me to take Trevor Penning here? I know that. No, take whoever you want. I think you want me to take Trevor
Starting point is 00:29:26 Penning, but I think the Chargers are going to go a little bit crazy here, and let's make this a little bit more fun. Let's go with N'Kobe Dean, a linebacker, an athlete, a guy who can run around and make some plays. I've got some other nice players on defense, but we want N'Kobe Dean. Didn't they just
Starting point is 00:29:41 draft Murray two years ago? They've got a bunch of guys, but no one's ever been healthy together. So they've got Bosa and Mack in the front. You know, they've got a, you know, the secondary now has some names in it. I think a linebacker makes sense. So Dean is 20th on the consensus big board, linebacker number two. This would definitely be one of those surprises. I think that if he went this early, over-under on linebackers in the first round,
Starting point is 00:30:06 I think it's like one and a half. Yeah, no, he's borderline. I don't know if this is an obvious pick. No, but he's contentious big board 20th, so you have him at 18. I mean, it's not a bad place to be. I would be surprised if they didn't go Trevor Penning here if he was on the board.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. I think football fans should want Trevor Penning. I like watching herbert throw bombs and it'd be nice if he could stay upright to let his receivers get downfield this year oh i'm with you but the beneficiary of that will be one of these picks coming up here right so um wow i did not see that coming listen this is not a great football analysis you can tell me i'm wrong jeff but if it ain't broke don't fix it I don't need a whole bunch of nerds telling me about stupid stats to see that their offense works.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Their quarterback is awesome. They have two great receivers right now. They throw to tight ends a lot. If there was a decent tight end, I might have picked that. But I don't think they need a right-side lineman. I just don't think they need it. I'm going to take a wide receiver here, but your,
Starting point is 00:31:05 your taking of the Kobe Dean allows the Eagles and my pick at 18 to take what some people consider the best wide receiver in the draft and Garrett Wilson. He's still here guys. He's, he is a guy that most people have at one at the best wide receiver. Eagles need a wide receiver again, three years in a row,
Starting point is 00:31:23 but I get Wilson right here at 18. I'll gladly take Wilson for my Eagles. And so I got Gary Wilson here, Matt. Matt, I think I've stolen your pick now twice in a row, Matt. Jeff, I'm crestfallen. Three in a row for those keeping track at home, actually. Three in a row? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Man, that's the right pick. I had the Eagles earlier, and I didn't think that they should go that in their first direction but that makes a lot of sense there if the Eagles end up with Devin Lloyd and Garrett Wilson the Eagles fans should be very excited yeah I mean that would be a home run
Starting point is 00:31:57 and not great news for the rest of the NFC East okay so I am back up with the Saints who were devastated that they almost got Garrett Wilson there, but did not. I think Penning is probably the pick that makes sense for them, unless there's a better fit at the left side because they still have Ramchick, but they obviously need to support Malik Willis and or Jameis Winston, need some help on that offense. The Teron Armstead hole is a big one.
Starting point is 00:32:27 The Michael Thomas injury is, I think, one of the most – whatever's happening with Michael Thomas is like one of those stories that I don't think is getting enough attention. The guy's 400 yards in the last two years combined. Missed the whole year with an ankle injury. But I think with the top three receivers off the board, you got to plug that hole on the left side of the line. So that would be my pick there.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I think they would run it. They love Penning and they would love to take Penning here at their second pick. They would love this. Absolutely love it. So I'm with you here. Penning left tackle for them. Done deal. All right. I'm kind of interested where Hanks would go with Pittsburgh here because he already took a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Is he taking another quarterback with his Pittsburgh pick? I'm taking another quarterback with his Pittsburgh pick? I'm taking another quarterback with the Pittsburgh pick. I'm not going with Kenny Pickett, even though he's from Pitt. It'd be a nice story, but his tiny hands will not be making the trip to Pittsburgh. No, I'm going Desmond Ritter here. I think he's the most pro-ready. Nate Tice used those exact words.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I'm quoting him on this podcast. Also, I think he's a more mature and older guy who could probably fit well with that pittsburgh locker room that's got some veterans in it um and i think he's probably he could beat out mitch trubisky for a starting spot this offseason so we'll go desmond ritter and we'll see if they can compete so i have a desmond ritter ticket to go the first quarterback at like plus 2200. So I'm hoping that no one gets picked. And then obviously Ritter gets picked in this spot.
Starting point is 00:33:49 He's the most ready now, as you mentioned, as Nate mentioned. But wow. All right. Ritter it is. I didn't know they would go this direction here. I love the back half of the draft, right? Because it's a bunch of up and down. Mayhem.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I'm for the mayhem. All right. For keeping smooth. Oh, Gabe is the Patriots. Oh, yes. How exciting, Gabe. Who is New England taking? And Matt Arisa is not the answer.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah. Last year, the guy everyone said was most ready now. The most boring. The most tedious. The most unlikable but the most quote-unquote ready is who the patriots took with mac jones so they wouldn't be able to take the most ready quarterback again this year i think what they're going to need is a typical patriots offensive lineman someone who's going to be there for 19 straight years eating poop for a quarterback who takes all the credit, getting shit on by a coach who doesn't care about him. Some boring fat loser who's actually the secret to their success and should be the hero in town but will never get credit.
Starting point is 00:35:01 So sorry, pal. I don't know much about you but linderbaum you're that guy tyler linderbaum out of iowa first round draft pick uh uh he um what he he's only a center in the nfl and and the Patriots don't need a center. So, oh man. That's our guy. There are a lot of people who put mock drafts out.
Starting point is 00:35:34 No one's going to have a better Tyler Lindenbaum take than that. Patriot, Bill Belichick's so smart. He'll figure out a way. He'll play with two centers or something, you know. So smart. He'll figure out a way. I'll play with two centers or something, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:49 when we're all watching Tyler Lindabaugh in 16 years, it is 15 straight all pro for the Patriots. We're all going to remember this moment and be like, damn it. Gabe was right. It's coming. We got to play this clip at his hall of fame. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Linderbaum. Oh, geez. I'll just be clear. There's no chance he goes this early in the draft. But, okay. Well, Linderbaum it is. I did not expect that.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Oh, wow. All right. Well, I'm next. I have the Packers. We know they're going wide receiver here. So, let's make it simple. And they're going with Chris Olave. Best wide receiver left on the board,
Starting point is 00:36:27 even though Burks, I think, is a possibility here. But the deep threat of Olave with the arm of Aaron Rodgers feels like that's where they'll go here. I'll take Olave. Not much to probably say about this one. This one feels pretty easy for me. That's a nice pick this late. Not going to replace Adams, but I feel like that's a pretty good fit.
Starting point is 00:36:48 The next pick is me with the Arizona Cardinals who lost Chandler Jones. J.J. Watt will probably be injured after he sends some tweet about what good shape he's in. So they were very excited about Jordan Davis, but we're going to go with, what's this guy's first name, but we're going to go with, uh, what's this guy's first name here. We're going Carl Laftis, George Carl Laftis. I like it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah. Here's a little nugget for you. He's a former Greek national water polo player. Do you know that? That's a good analysis. I was hoping he was going to fall to the chiefs here. I think that he's, uh, he belongs to that top tier of pass rushers. I'm a little surprised he's still around here. I think Arizona
Starting point is 00:37:28 would be very happy to add to their pass rush at this point in the draft. What do you guys think? Oh, they totally would. Dang it. I was hoping they would follow the Chiefs. I like them. I think in most years he would be much higher, just as a deep defensive end class. George Karloftis. Off the board,
Starting point is 00:37:44 Hank, you have the Dallas Cowboys now.. George Karloftis, off the board. Hank, you have the Dallas Cowboys now. So Karloftis, not just a water polo player, but the goalie on the water polo team, which is incredibly physically demanding. That guy is a freak athlete. But I got the Cowboys. Save it for the water polo podcast, Hank. Oh, that's recording right after this.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I got my nuggets ready. I do not like making the Cowboys pick here because there are so many good players left on the board. Not Linderbaum. He's gone. Not Linderbaum. Yeah. I feel like the Cowboys have already basically told everyone
Starting point is 00:38:16 that if Traylon Burks is there when they're drafting, they're going to take him. Traylon Burks wins the guy I'd least like to try to tackle award in this draft class he's a little raw as a wide receiver but when he gets the ball in his hands get out of the way um so yeah that's the Cowboys pick he's replacing a Mark Cooper all right I I'm glad that you like to tackle someone and that'd be the one you didn't want to tackle um yeah I mean this is a very Dallas pick I would argue that um that they could really use the services of offensive guard here
Starting point is 00:38:46 but um you know wide receiver run is going to happen and obviously Jerry Jones if he wants his wide receivers he's going to get them and look you can't argue with with needing those guys in that offense right because you you trade away Cooper so I get it um all right next up here uh Gabe you have the Buffalo Bills yeah so I think it's pretty obvious that what they need to do is go after a defensive player who can help them win the AFC. You know, whether they should or not, they are probably going into this draft in the mid-20s only thinking about what's going to help them in December and January against teams like the Chiefs. only thinking about what's going to help them in December and January against teams like the Chiefs. So, you know, I don't know if that means they're going to make the smartest pick, but I think they're going to have to go for a defensive player with some serious upside.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And so I'm going to go ahead and say they take, and apologies, I'm going to butcher his name. I don't mean to, but they're going to take the kid from Michigan who we saw get hurt, that ugly moment at his pro day, David Ojabo, an edge rusher who probably doesn't play for several weeks, but eventually is healthy and can be a huge difference maker for them on defense when it matters. So this is a really interesting pick here because you're picking for almost next year, as you mentioned, right? Like you're picking for maybe the back half of this season. Back half of the year. This is a spot where like, you know, Kansas City's second first round pick would be useful here right or the lines at 32 like somewhere someone trading back up into the draft to take him right now and know you have the extra year of control
Starting point is 00:40:15 in the first round because he would have been a first round pick if he didn't hurt himself right pro day and so this is an opportunity to your point you just get a long-term piece you might not need you might have to play him this year but you drafted there last year as well so this is an opportunity, to your point, you just get a long-term piece. You might not have to play them this year, but you drafted there last year as well. So this is a good value play for the tight. Interesting. Gabe, you have done some haymakers here, some left and rights.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I like it. Trying to keep it interesting. Without Nick this year, we don't have enough wide receivers. I know. So Tennessee is pretty interesting here. I have them next uh they could use offensive line they could use uh wide receiver and and d tackle uh some more pass rush up the middle in my opinion and the reason i'm going to take uh davante watt here
Starting point is 00:40:57 from georgia is because um he's one of the better pass rushers in this draft who's inside right and i think that it's hard to find in a lot of drafts those pass rushers in this draft who's inside, right? And I think that it's hard to find in a lot of drafts those pass rushers inside that can win early in the down, and he's the best one of the three techniques. Not Jordan Davis, but it's a three technique, an inside guy that can maybe pair on the other side of Simmons. This feels like a spot, because you can probably get yourself a guard in round two
Starting point is 00:41:23 as this draft is playing out right now. And so they, cause they need that, that help as well. And wide receiver. But to me, it feels like right now you take the best of a tackle left, take Wyatt and you move on from there.
Starting point is 00:41:35 So we'll go wide here. Another Georgia kid. We'll, we'll put them in here at defense to tackle. And Matt, you have Tampa Bay now. Yeah. I really wanted to spice this one up.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I was hoping like an Olave would be there. I was thinking about a wide receiver with this Godwin injury. But here's the thing, not to be too predictable here, but in the three years before Tom Brady got to the Bucs, they picked one offensive lineman in three drafts. And in the last two, they picked Tristan Wirfs, and they picked somebody else in the third round last year, Robert Hainsey. So I think in an effort to placate Tom Brady,
Starting point is 00:42:10 before he leaves to go to Miami to own the team, I think they're going to try to replace Ali Marpet. I am going to say that they probably go with, let's give them Kenyon Green. He's got the versatility. He played four spots on the line in college. Left tackle, left guard, right guard, and right tackle. He's out of Texas A&M. Should be pro-ready.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Should slide in right up front and protect Tom Brady. What do you think? They're taking a guard here if these guys are available. I would lean just personally Zion Johnson, but if you take Green, you're fine. If you're right in this spot and johnson and green are both there you're very happy if you're tampa because that's a huge need for them at guard and the way this is played out they'll have good enough grades to be drafted here and they'll feel that's a little bit of a value
Starting point is 00:42:56 play um all right hank you have uh the packers pick 28 all right i'm going'm going with Arnold Ebiketti out of Penn state. The guy grad transfer from temple, a great pass rusher defensive end. He played inside and outside in college. And I think it's the type of pick that a contending team makes and no one really notices. And then when he has two sacks in the second round of the playoffs next year, everyone will start talking about how great the GM was.
Starting point is 00:43:22 There are thoughts of him moving up in this draft, as just mentioned um because of his ability to rush the passer obviously we know that's important right and and they need to replace that as they've lost pass rushers um and you know the Packers end up with Olave and uh and this player right here I think they'll be pretty excited about that all right um Gabe you have the first of the Chiefs picks please don't mess this up missed opportunity by the, by the way, not taking a quarterback for the Packers at 28. That would have been a more fun move. That's Nick's job. He's not here.
Starting point is 00:43:51 We never heard that joke before. Interesting. It's the only thing I bring. Okay, Jeff, a lot of pressure here. I'm taking the Chiefs first pick in the first round. They've got another one right after. So I'll try to mind-meld with you. I think watching the Chiefs, it's pretty freaking obvious they could use some secondary help. I don't actually know the latest with Honey Badger, but I can say that they can't possibly
Starting point is 00:44:18 have enough depth in the secondary with the division they have to play and those bills I mentioned earlier. So I'm going with the guy who, at least on paper, seems like the best available at that position. So I'm going to go with Andrew Booth Jr. from Clemson. Must be a good player. Got himself to Clemson. Slip this late. I'll take him. Love it. The Chiefs need three things at the top of this draft. Corner, wide receiver, and pass rusher. And you look at the way the this draft corner wide receiver and pass rusher and you look at the way the draft is playing out yet a top level cornerback because a lot of teams have kind of skipped on those cornerbacks at 29 i love it the question is now whether you go wide receiver
Starting point is 00:44:55 or pass rusher to me the pass rushers are kind of not there as much anymore the wide receivers are still kind of there right i mean you still, you still have, you still have Dotson, obviously there, you still have Sky Moore. You still have Pickens if you want and Christian Watson from North Dakota state, but pass rushers are slowly kind of not going to be there. I'm taking the cat out of Minnesota. We're going with Boya Mafa from Minnesota, the defensive end. I think he's the best spot for the chiefs right now because they have plenty of opportunity to get themselves wide receivers
Starting point is 00:45:27 in the back end of the second round, or really the middle of the second round. Defensive ends, I mean, you got like maybe Drake Jackson here at 50, so you might want to go wide receiver with Dotson. I think defense is their need here, so that's my pick. Second to it, I think Chiefs would be very happy if they end up with a pass rush on a starting corner in the first round. A receiver again if you went dots in here wouldn't be the end of the world um all right 31 here cincinnati um who's up that's me and i'm getting a little tired of picking all these offensive linemen and frankly the bangles were devastated when linda bound went
Starting point is 00:46:02 off their board that i'm not kidding gave my. I had one bullet point, and it was Linda Baum, because they've got to protect Joe Burrow. We all know that. But you know what? I'm just getting bored here. I've taken too many sensible picks. So I'm going to remember back to the Super Bowl and remembering in that last drive with Joe Burrow and the Bengals,
Starting point is 00:46:22 who were they trying to run the ball with and dump little dump-offs to but Samaje P. Ryan? Guys, Joe Mixon, I think he's had a great couple seasons. He was a real key to their success last year. That guy's not holding up anymore. They just signed him to a big contract. And after this season, it seems pretty obvious they're going to cut him and save some cap space. So I think the move here is to take the top
Starting point is 00:46:45 running back on the board always a good value in the first round to take a running back right jeff give me brace hall out of iowa state to actually i like i don't think this will happen but i swear they should do it like that offense is so good put strength on his strength joe mixon is just going to fall apart at some point i think you got to look to the future and go with breeze hall we are not taking running backs in the first round in this podcast but you have decided to do that anyways and for that you're ashamed but breeze hall is the pick for the bangles here um all right last pick here hank 32 lions uh which is originally the rams pick uh where are you going see this is incredible for the Lions because they passed the quarterback up at number two and then only two went the entire first round it seems like
Starting point is 00:47:30 Kenny Pickett fell right in their lap it seems like Dan Campbell should sprint up to the podium to hand this card in but that's not what they're doing because Dan Campbell is a football guy and he knows to win football games you need to play the field position game and there are three phases there's offense defense and special teams here it comes get out of here don't do it don't do it so the lions are wrapping up the first round by drafting matt ariza the punt god out of san diego state and he will be the super Bowl MVP 2023. Alright, well, it had to happen at some point, so the Lions have drafted a punter in the first
Starting point is 00:48:11 round. I mean, look, would that be the craziest pick of all time, right? Probably. Almost as crazy as Tyler Linderbaum. Not a rise up. Alright, well, he's number 186 on the big board here. Alright, a rise up in the pick. All right. Well, he's number 186 on the big board here. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:28 A rise up. Feels low. The punt god. Can I get your takeaway, Jeff, on a few things here? Things that jump out to me, not counting a punter going with the last pick of the first round. Things that jump out to me would be, obviously, quarterbacks slipping as late as they did. No running backs until the very end despite this being the offseason of every team supposedly looking for its debo right everyone's out there searching for a
Starting point is 00:48:51 debo nobody's taken a player like that from this draft a lot of wide receivers taken a lot of edge rushers taken not a lot of linebackers not a lot of defensive backs baker mayfield would be out there and available the browns wouldn't have traded into the first round. What else is there to say about the draft? I think it's pretty... Our mock draft is pretty chalky. I mean, obviously the last pick notwithstanding,
Starting point is 00:49:16 but I mean, this is sort of what I think we're looking at in the first round. I mean, maybe a couple guys, a couple wide receivers, maybe Kansas City takes Jamar Dotson, John Dotson, I should say. Again, I'm looking at the Athletic puts together a consensus big board. They go like 40 mock drafts, put them all together.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Let's see here. Zion Johnson, 23, hasn't been drafted yet. 27 hasn't been drafted yet. And 30, like we have all the top players. Like this is kind of, it feels like the draft is going to be. I mean, the Linderbaum pick is probably not going to be there, so slot someone else in for New England.
Starting point is 00:49:47 But this kind of is the top 32 guys. Like, this is what's going to be, Gabe. I don't think it's going to be that exciting of a draft. I think it's just, you're getting good players, you're not getting top-level quarterbacks. Obviously, we'll find out how teams feel about quarterbacks in the future, where they go, but, you know, I do think there's a chance that at 20, Pittsburgh has the pick of whatever quarterback they want.
Starting point is 00:50:09 So you can, on one of the books, on PointsBet, they have really good draft props. We're not sponsored. We're looking for sponsors. PointsBet, if you're listening, we will take you as a sponsor. They have over under two and a half quarterbacks drafted in the first round. I think that's an interesting number because of this whole Kenny Pickett
Starting point is 00:50:26 conversation. What are you taking on that side, Joe? I think I wouldn't touch that. I mean, I think that I've had someone tell me if like three, like I would take over, I would take over three, but I feel like two and a half, you're just, it's just three. I think to me, three feels like a safe number. I know I'm just kind of speaking out of my ass.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I think two and a half should be over, but I just don't like that number, dude. I think two and a half is too low to wager on. I think it's a bad number they set it at. Does that worry you that it's a bad number? That makes me feel like if I think it's over three, I'm really wrong here. I just don't feel great about it.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I promise there will be more than two and a half. This is just what happens. This is what happens in every draft. Why is that be more than two and a half. This is just what happens. This is what happens in every draft. Why is that number set at two and a half? Everyone else has three or three and a half. Well, you don't want to push, but I do think that there's no chance Pickett makes it out of round one. There's no way. There's no
Starting point is 00:51:18 way Willis makes it out of round one, and somebody's going to talk themselves into either Ritter or Corral or something else, and that's just how this is going to go. We're all going to act surprised, but I'm willing to be wrong. But every other draft that's ever happened has, there's been quarterbacks that people trade up for and reach for. It's just how it goes. No, it is just how it goes.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Gabe, what's your takeaway? I really don't think that anyone will reach for quarterbacks. I don't see anyone who even looked that good to me in college here, let alone, you know, ready to make a difference in the NFL. I think my my number one takeaway is that thank God this draft isn't happening in New York, because four of the top 10 picks happening between the Jets and Giants would set a record for the loudest sustained booing in the history of mankind. And not having to be subjected to that is a good thing. Well, the Giants, I mean, the Giants and Jets have a great opportunity to just be better after this. Giants, Jets, and Texans, right? Texans are 3-13. Giants are 5-7.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And Jets are 4-10. Like, there's a chance to come away with really good football players, though. Like, you have a chance to be much better after round one if you don't screw it up. Which team screws it up? The Jets probably don't. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's an interesting draft, too. Jeff, give me your take on this historically.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Like, so Browns, no picks. Obviously, Miami, which was stockpiling picks, ends up with none. Texans have a bunch now. It seems like a lot of teams with two picks and a few teams with no picks, and that's strange. Yeah, I mean, it's just the way it kind of went. I mean, you have teams that are obviously like they'd rather have Tyree kill than get a wide receiver this year, right?
Starting point is 00:52:53 Or obviously the Browns would rather have Deshaun Watson than have a quarterback in this draft. It just feels like teams are choosing to pick their poison, but everyone agrees that you can probably get as much value in pick 50 as you might get in 25 this year. And that's why teams aren't as worthy.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Next year, you'll see teams use these assets to trade up, especially because of the quarterbacks next season are much better than this year. I'm wondering if there's any other gambling-related takeaways as somebody who focuses on that on this year. I'm wondering if there's any other gambling-related takeaways as somebody who focuses on that on this show. I think if this is the way the draft shakes out, I don't think there would be a ton of change. This is a depth where it's like, oh, everybody added, got a little bit better. If the Eagles have a draft like this, you could look at them to win the NFC East plus 325. If the Eagles have a draft like this, you could look at them to win the NFC East plus 325.
Starting point is 00:53:47 That's something I would maybe consider looking at. I just think that it's always fun to throw out a little random future at this point of the offseason before the draft. Jeff, is there anybody who you think this draft could really change and maybe you would look to bet on for a future? I mean, obviously, if the Chiefs get away with drafting some good football players, I mean, maybe their number is better. You look at, I mean, the quarterbacks aren't going to move very much, right? They're not going to move very much, right? Like the quarterbacks aren't good enough to where you really, I mean, the Giants are interesting because the Giants, I think, might be better than last year. If you add a left tackle and a top corner, you're just going to be better, right? You're going to be a better team overall. I think that could be a team where you look to take some plus money
Starting point is 00:54:29 for the division. I don't think Daniel Jones, I mean, you look at the quarterbacks in that division, I don't think Daniel Jones is going to win, but it's possible. I mean, if they add, again, they show up to the offensive line, they give themselves a corner, they'll make things difficult in the East. The gambling-minded people on this show help me out here my gut tells me that the texans win total is a chance to make some money yeah that's
Starting point is 00:54:53 an interesting one that division is obviously very up for grabs they aren't going to be very good but they play in a bad division they're going to get considerably better out of this draft their their luck has to improve yes they got a quarterback who doesn't completely suck. It seems like taking the over, what is it, four and a half on the Texans? Four and a half, yep. Just in their division alone, there might be four or five wins. I think everyone's going to take the Texans over this year. That's what kind of worries me.
Starting point is 00:55:18 But, yes, the Texans over, I would feel comfortable taking that. Matt, would you? I would probably lay off and lean more on the Jaguars. I think we're going to see it. I think they're going to be a trendy pick pretty soon, given just the change in coach from maybe the worst coach hire of the last decade to someone who's competent and has won a Super Bowl in Doug Peterson. I think they have a great draft position.
Starting point is 00:55:41 They did a lot in the offseason that I really like. They're at 6.5. That's one I would look at. The Texans are interesting, but I've lost too much money on Lovie Smith in the past, and I have a little bit more respect for myself than that in the future. That's my take. I can't wait to gamble on football again. It's not too early, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:56:01 We're talking futures. I can't wait. I've been doing some USFL, which is I mean, it's been okay, I guess. Just take all the unders. That typically works pretty well in the USFL. I think it's hit in more than half the game.
Starting point is 00:56:16 So, oh man. Alright guys, are we good? Do we have our draft thoughts out, man? We got it done? I got one more draft question. It's not players related. I don't know if you guys have seen the plans for the stage, but the draft is being held
Starting point is 00:56:30 in Vegas this year on a stage built over the Bellagio Fountains. Oh, yeah. This is a quote. The top players expected to go high in the draft will be ferried to a stage
Starting point is 00:56:42 over the Bellagio Fountains where they will make media rounds and then be ferried off the water. Does this mean we're going to see Jordan Davis in a boat? Yes. If he's going there, yes. He will be ferried. Over or under, how many players jump into the water?
Starting point is 00:56:56 Jump or fall? Doesn't matter. Either or. Two and a half. What are you guys taking there? Oh, under. It would be one. You know who's not going to fall?
Starting point is 00:57:04 Linderbaum. No, he's not. Impeccable balance. He will never fall into the Bellagio fountains. With that, we are done talking about Tyler Linderbaum, who I like from Iowa, the center. But what a pick by game. All right, guys.
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