Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Georgia Wins the Natty, Gabe’s Faith is Restored, and Fallout from Black Monday

Episode Date: January 11, 2022

Geoff and Gabe are coming to you immediately after Georgia pulled off the big win over Alabama in the National Championship… exactly as Geoff predicted. Listen for Geoff’s breakdown of how Stetson Bennett IV and Kirby Smart came through for the Dawgs, and how this outcome changes Gabe’s feelings towards following College Football all season long. Plus Geoff and Gabe need to take a second to finish processing the Raiders vs. Chargers game from last night (Were they really rooting for a tie?) and the fallout from Black Monday in the NFL (Did Brian Flores really get fired before Joe Judge?).Be sure to like and follow the podcast if you enjoyed the episode, and leave a comment for a chance to be featured in a mailbag segment at the end of the season!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

All right, it's Tuesday, January 11th. I'm Jeff Schwartz alongside Gabe Gillen. This is Jeff Schwartz, smarter than you. Powered by the Varsity Podcast Network. Almost screwed up the intro of my show. No surprise. It is late at night. We have just watched Georgia finally slay the beast they have been, Alabama.

Not a close game. In a blowout in the second half is Georgia, down 9-6 in the second half. As we currently are talking, it's 33-18 right now. And the accountant-looking quarterback, Stenson Bennett, is going to win the MVP. 50 seconds left. They just hit a pick six as Kirby Smart's yelling for the runner to get down because that was going to end the game.

Wow, Gabe. A game that was boring. I'll tell you what. It wasn't boring for the first half because it was a defensive struggle, but it wasn't a sloppy game, right, which is what you don't want. Second half, much better, obviously. So we'll talk about this game. We'll also talk about some NFL coaching hires and firings.

Really no hires, but firings, I should say. We've got to touch on that a tiny bit to get through our show today. So, Gabe, we have a champion, the Georgia Bulldogs finally slayed the beast, man. They did. And I think everyone out there who isn't an Alabama fan is happy to see somebody take Alabama down. I will admit, I've been saying all season long, very cynically that let's forget the season. It doesn't matter. This is obviously Alabama's, even when they had one hiccup you know then we saw them against georgia and i thought all right well whatever they're clearly gonna win they were

definitely not the better team and injuries played a huge part in that jeff so we're gonna get into it but i mean alabama is beatable it was proven and i'm relieved to see it look everyone's talking about the injuries and it's very true right now met you was out the wide receiver the williams had a horrific knee injury it looked like you're in the game and yes totally true both those guys but that's kind of football like injuries are part of football right quite often the healthiest team doesn't you know excuse me the healthiest team wins right like we see that in the nfl all the time and we don't see as much in college because there's more depth in the nfl we see all the time like it's a big part of the game.

And yes, yes. But guess what, guys? Georgia's not giving back this championship. So it doesn't matter what the injuries were. They have won the game. Their defense tonight was unbelievable. They are so fast. This is the closest game I can recall in college football to an NFL game.

Like, the speed of the game, the way it was played, the physicality. And their defensive coordinator is coming to Eugene. I cannot wait to see Dan Lanning in Oregon. But look, they stuck the game plan. Stenson Bennett made enough throws. And their defense is just – and it's why I like them because I thought their defense would play better this game. I told you guys this is what I liked.

And I liked Alabama team total under. Like everything I wrote about this game happened. And we have a new champion in Georgia. Yeah. Now, I got to admit, I'm doubly surprised. I thought Alabama would win this game and I didn't actually think it'd be close. But I'm doubly surprised that when Alabama got Georgia up on the ropes, on the fumble slash incompletion,

you know, heavily reviewed play. And it looked like, you know, the once walk on Bennett just folded and it was over and Alabama was just going to slowly just beat them to death. But no, he came back and made a few big plays and the defense got even stronger. Jeff, I want to know as a former lineman, what is it like going up against, in particular, a guy like Davis, but that line, just these enormous dudes. You talked about the speed, but just talk to me about the size of Georgia's defensive line leaning on you and smashing into you all night long. Did that just wear Alabama out? all night long. Did that just wear Alabama out?

No, I talked about this. I mean, look, yes, it can. It can, right? But I think that what we saw in this game was reminiscent of what I thought we'd see the first game, which was Alabama's offensive line is just not as good this season. And Georgia's defensive line is really good. And Georgia's defensive line did an outstanding job

in this game of moving. They did not move in game one. In this this game they twisted and moved every single play and they came with a better game plan okay well i mean that's certainly hard to argue they like like like like i don't think it was a one-on-one physical thing like they had a better scheme this game right does that make sense like it wasn't like we beat you one-on-one it's like we schemed up we twisted and moved and worked edges things they didn't do in game one yeah okay i mean i i don't have any kind of way to argue any of that let me go back to the obvious elephant in the room then um and you know this is what the take makers will use as their excuse for

why their prediction was wrong. I won't do that, but I will say losing a receiver mid-game after losing Manchie, you know, in the previous game, I was joking to our text thread that like, well, which first rounder do they just put on the field now and the truth is they really didn't look experienced at receiver in the whole second half and Bryce Young threw a lot of balls that looked like they were perfectly thrown and very catchable and they didn't come down with them and that seemed like it made a huge difference so you know is that what Saban is telling himself when he tries to go to sleep tonight? That he just lost his best weapons. The quarterback made the plays. The young guys couldn't do it.

I think Saban just says we lost a game. Like it's okay to lose sometimes. Like you just got beat by a team that was healthier and that outplayed you. Like that sometimes is okay to admit. And there's a saying we use in NFL like they get paid also right like they don't get i mean maybe they get paid also georgia i don't know but like my point is like it's that's just part of football sometimes you lose a game i don't think nick saban's gonna make excuses for this game even to himself privately like they just lost they played a really good team today. Georgia's really good.

And they just lost a game. It happens. He's what? He's only covered one of six title games now. Not he's won more than one of six, but like, you lose football games. You play a good football team.

It's hard to beat him twice. Okay, but so roll with me on this for a second then. If they have a couple of guys who are NFL talent, after graduating NFL talent, you you know for years in a row at wide receiver and then all of a sudden both those guys are gone there's very few guys on the field who've had actual game reps of consequence with bryce young and now playing against the best defense in college football like they could they

talked herbie talked a lot about reps. It wasn't about skill. These guys got themselves open. But the timing was a little off. They didn't pull the ball in. Like, I'm not trying to make excuses for Nick Saban, but it does seem relevant. The receivers couldn't make plays.

100%. And again, but again, like, look, things I don't do on this podcast are blame officials and injuries. Like, it's part of the game. And this is why you recruit. I mean, it's not like no one made plays. Plenty of guys made plays. Just didn't make enough plays.

And when you play a Georgia defense, you know, the throw a couple of throws ago before it came on, number seven, just seven just like didn't go up with two hands like before the interception. Like that type of stuff, right? Like, you know, those other guys probably catch the ball. He didn't.

I mean, he put a hell of a move on him. The ball was perfectly thrown. Talking about Brooks, he's on the sideline. He reaches out with one arm and tries to stab it. I don't know what he was doing.

Nick Saban said at halftime, like, these young guys have got to step up and against Georgia, you have to make those plays was doing. Nick Saban said at halftime, these young guys have got to step up. Against Georgia, you have to make those plays with that defense because you're not going to get many opportunities for that. Nick Saban and Kirby Smart are sharing a nice little message

here with their former friends. Nick Saban still has seven championships. No, listen. I'm the last guy who's going to feel bad for Nick Saban for a single second. But I was surprised that Alabama was considered a quote-unquote underdog in this game. I'm surprised at the way that it ended. So let's try now to spin it forward to next season where you know who is going to be the favorite, Alabama.

But I'm going to take Georgia a hell of a lot more seriously, and I think I'm going to have Georgia a hell of a lot more seriously. And I think I'm going to have to take Ohio State a lot more seriously. I might even take your Oregon Ducks a little bit more seriously. Certainly my USC Trojans. There are some teams out there to compete with these certainly not certainly not your Trojans this season. Well, maybe not yet, but give me some hope that I don't just see these two teams in the finals 365 days from today. Oh, I'm not going to do that. It's probably the two teams we see again.

I think that Georgia is losing more than Bama is, though, right? Georgia returns, I mean, Alabama returns to quarterback, which is important, right? And they have a lot of young players, and Georgia loses a lot of this defense, and they lose their defensive coordinator to Oregon as well, and some of the coaches, I think, are going with him to Oregon as well. So we'll find out what Georgia can do,

but tonight reinforced the idea of just how far away teams are competing with this, with Alabama and Georgia. Right. I mean, the amount of big time players and then also the coaching, right? Like Texas A&M has recruited well, but they're just not as well coached as these two teams are it really you know ohio state will be there next year of course but michigan played this year they got their asses kicked by georgia yeah since annie can't do it there's no team out west that's remotely close to staying close to these guys now georgia oregon play each other in september we'll see what that looks like what

blood bad that looks like but just reinforces to me that these teams are just the best. And Gabe, I don't mind it, man. Look, I thought tonight's game was really good. And yeah, I love for different teams to win. But Georgia hasn't won in 41 years. So a different team did win. We had LSU win three years ago, then Bama, then Georgia. I mean, obviously, football in the south is reigned supreme but i i don't mind watching good teams win championships if it's

alabama so be the georgia so be it yeah well i mean there were a hell of a lot of players who are obvious next level guys um i didn't think that the alabama defense helped help me with the words here but it didn't seem to me that any time a running back for Georgia got through the line, that there was anyone who was going to really make a play. Like they were gaining a lot of yards if they broke initial contact is what it seemed like. What explains that? Because I thought that there were going to be 11 NFL caliber players out there and Alabama is usually really strong in the secondary safeties who love to smash you. It seemed like the running backs were able to just kind of gain the extra five yards after first contact.

I just don't think Bama was as good this year as other seasons. I think it's okay to admit that. I mean, we saw them play Cincinnati. I think that was the takeaway after that game. Like, yeah, they're just not as good as they've been in the past. And, you know, the ability for Georgia to continue, especially that last drive, to fall forward, right, continue to run the ball, run the ball, run the ball,

and then great boom, RPO to the tight end. They just wore them out. They wore them down. Yeah, Herbie, I thought was, I mean, that was, he's been knocked maybe unfairly for, uh, insinuating that some guys in college football don't love the game. Boy, he loves the game. Did you hear him going crazy for that, that drive you're talking about and that extra effort run? I mean, he, he was like, I don't know if they're going to win the game, but this is the kind of

effort we need in college football. He was into it. All right. Let me ask you this. Yeah, it was fun to watch. I saw you were enjoying it too. The free willy lineman diving on the pile. Oh, I had to mute that conversation because too many people were just saying stupid things. Yeah. All right.

So you're telling me that it's maybe not both of them back, but we should expect to see at least one of these two teams back here next year. They're going to reload at some key positions. We know Alabama always has guys. Fair enough. Let me ask you this, because this is sort of a related topic, and it was a lot of media access to these coaches this week. And one topic came out that I was eager to get your take on. And this got a lot of people's attention a few days ago, but I'm going to quote Nick Saban here. He says, name, image, and likeness is a positive thing for players. They've got the opportunity to earn money. I don't think that's a bad thing. What is concerning is how, how is that used to get players to decide where they're going to school?

I don't think that was the intention. And then he continued, we need some kind of national legislation to control that. There will be an imbalance as to who dominates college football if it isn't regulated. Huh? Like, there is an imbalance as to who dominates college football. It's you, pal.

So is he kind of crying about this? Or is he flagging a real problem? I think he's warning everybody. In what sense? Like if this is going to be even more slanted toward the South, toward the SEC. So he's saying we're already the rich and we're going to get richer unless you do something about it?

I think so, yeah. I don't think he's worried about – remember when he used to say, like, the spread offense was bad for college football because there was that point of kicking his ass, and he's like, you know what, we're going to run that offense. Like, I think Nick Saban, if this is the way college football is going to go, they're just going to do it better than anyone else's.

So you think he's basically saying, like, this is already kind of silly. I have such an advantage over you because of the program that I've built. If you let me do this unchecked, I will dominate you all at this as well. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So your boy over at Pro Football Talk had the opposite feeling. He thought he was saying, I won't be able to dominate.

He had the opposite feeling of everything that is common sense. So I'm not surprised. Well, okay. But so let me, my job here is to sort of everything that is common sense. So I'm not surprised. Well, okay. But so let me, I, my job here is to sort of speak for the take makers. I think Nick Saban is saying this. He's like, look, I don't want to do this in a free, I don't, I would rather there be regulations. I don't want to have to do all this, but if we do it, I'm going to do it better than anyone else is going to do it. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. I tend to agree with you, but for sake of argument, I think some people might claim that he is like, oh, crap. This is the way that these other programs could catch up to the edge I've built for myself. I've got a program where I've got five stars at every position. I've got five stars backing up five stars for three years. The best player on the field for Alabama today was the running back, a senior, Brian Robinson Jr. That guy's played behind like five NFL stars,

and he finally got the chance. He had a hell of a senior season and a great playoff. I think what some people might think is, oh, okay, NIL could even the field. So places like Texas could actually buy players to come and compete with Alabama. It's a possible game. And they're trying. They're offering a lot of money to recruits, $50,000 per off its alignment. But it's not only about getting players, it's about coaching them up.

And Steve Sarkeesian is not winning a national championship at Texas. Well, no. So, that's part of it. Now, again, I think Nick Saban is saying, look, I don't want to do any extra work on Damian like this. It's already tough enough. But if we're going to do it,

we're going to do it big. And he's just kind of giving a warning to everyone. Yeah, okay. Well, I mean, he has whatever he needs. So he could hire some assistant who just focuses on that. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, it's crazy. All of his assistants are going to go be head coaches somewhere,

which is going to be a segue to some more stuff I want to talk about it. Before I take us to a quick break and try to ask you about some coaching news in the NFL, anything else from the championship game or the end of the college football season that we need to hear from you tonight? No. I mean, you look at Georgia right now, you have a Braves national championship, a Georgia national championship. And before we know it, we're going to have Georgia, Oregon, Labor Day weekend, kicking off the football season. It was a great year. I'm glad you guys were able to ride with us in college football. We had some fun.

We gave some picks. I finally got a game right in college football, which was great. That wasn't a Pac-12 game. And it's a great season. Good ending to the season. All right. Well, it was a great end to the season because Alabama didn't just do what I'd been saying all year they were going to do.

So I enjoyed hearing about college football from you every week this year. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. I want to ask you about some NFL stuff that's in the news on Monday. Uh, we'll be right back. All right, Jeff, we're back. Uh, you know, you and I have, have had a couple of late nights in a row and we lived through this national championship game tonight, and that was fun. Last night we lived through the weirdest NFL game I can remember where we were all rooting for a tie and then got a buzzer beater. The final second of the regular season has shaped the playoffs. Have you recovered from all of that, by the way?

No, it was a rough day. I went to bed last night at like 2 o'clock. By the time i got done with the podcast like kind of settled down i couldn't really relax and then my wife today was like after we put the kids down we got into kind of bed and she's like it looks like you were in bed today did you nap i was like yes yes i did nap i slept from 2 to 6 30 i worked out i came home and napped and she's like i was like i was at work i go yeah i work too sorry but like i took a nap today so yeah i'll be taking a nap tomorrow as well um

it's uh but look it's the end of the season what are you shaking your head for i mean naps you get naps this is i'm like your wife on this one i I'm so jealous. You live on the West Coast. It's 9 o'clock. It's 12, 10 a.m. I'm not saying you shouldn't be tired. I'm saying having the ability to take a nap makes me angry with jealousy. I have a weird work schedule. I do radio at night. And you work your butt off.

You work your butt off. I'm not questioning that either. I'm just saying there's nothing in the world I would want more any day of my life than a nap so here we talk about it was our nap it was great it was a fantastic nap um but i'm here i'm in look and even today i was at the gym this morning uh of course we record this on well it's actually tuesday morning now but um and the nfl news i could barely work out. The NFL news just kept firing to Twitter, right? It is Black Monday, the Monday where all the coaches get fired except one glaring coach who's not been fired yet.

Some of the ones we expected, right? Mike Zimmer is out. Matt Nagy's out. Both GMs, Ryan Pace for the Bears and Rick Spielman for the Vikings are out. Some surprise ones, we'll get into in a second. I would imagine Brian Flores is out. Obviously, we have some openings in Jacksonville and probably Vegas, maybe not.

We'll find out. And there's one we still have not been fired yet, Gabe. So where do you want to begin? Let's start there. Can you give me any explanation, anything? Try your hardest to come up with an explanation for why Joe Judge still has a job. Dumbfounded, right?

Nothing, no clue. Joe Judge has won two games. Excuse me, two, two. He's won 10 games in two years. Yeah. They ran a third and nine quarterback sneak in the game, in the middle of the game to go punt the ball, essentially. He's shown no ability whatsoever to do anything he ever said he was going to do.

He's lied, fibbed, made up stories about things that have never happened at the podium. And nothing that – like the Lions had a worse record than the Giants this year. But at any point, Dave, did you ever think to yourself, the Lions aren't playing hard? Like they're not trying. They don't care. The Giants look like they didn't care at all.

And now – and Dave Gettleman, the Giants general manager, retired. So are you going to let Joe Judge pick a new general manager? Or make a general manager have to keep Joe? I don't – the prevailing wisdom here is that the Giants don't want to fire him because they fired the last three coaches after two years. Two coaches after two years. Well, that's – maybe you should look in the mirror and think, why do we keep hiring bad coaches?

I told everyone he was a bad hire. This Bill Belichick thing thing this tough guy mentality this fake tough guy stuff doesn't work it does not work and i i gave i i don't know buddy i have no idea why he still has a job today well okay and so then let's go with the another former belichick assistant although this guy was actually a real coordinator and had a real resume and immediately had success with a crappy team that he took over and ended this season 8-1 with a winning record, beating Belichick himself, Brian Flores. Jaw-droppingly stupid fire in Miami. They keep the GM, they fire Flores.

Unless Flores asked to be fired, which I'm not joking, I think might be the only explanation, is he was like, get me out of here, call it whatever you want. I don't want to be here working for this GM and this owner. But what else explains how that guy loses his job? Yeah, I'm still waiting to gain information on that. I have someone in the Dolphins that I was hoping to talk to that just didn't happen. It was probably my napkin on the way, I would imagine. Yeah, maybe you shouldn't have.

No, but that didn't happen in a way. Look, I think, I don't think, just reading the report, it just seemed like Flores did not get along with the general manager to the ownership. But there was some abrasiveness between between, you know, Flores and the rest of the kind of development department. And they were upset that the players they had drafted the offensive line Tua did not develop at the level they expected. Now, is that Brian Ford's fault? He's a defensive coach.

So it's on him to obviously hire better offensive coaches, and maybe that's a problem. But the issue I have with his firing is, A, it's way too soon in my opinion. But B is, why does the general manager stay? Because the general manager drafted the bad offensive lineman, and he drafted Tua over Herbert. Now, you can rebut me by saying,

well, everyone thought Tua was going to be better. Okay, fine, fine. But he's not. So it doesn't matter what people thought. It doesn't matter. Herbert is far better than Tua. And the GM has to own that and I think that Flores never wanted Tua he wanted Herbert or no one or no not one of the two and

I got just kind of boiled over to where it just had to be done and but here's a reminder Gabe the teams are talking about firing coaches mostly are bad organizations, right? The Dolphins, the Giants. The Giants haven't been bad. They're bad now. And most time, bad teams stay bad, Gabe. And this is why. Well, okay.

Except that the Giants in my lifetime, and I mean, you were part of the organization. In my lifetime, the Giants are probably the second most successful franchise of my lifetime with the Patriots being the first. I mean, I... Well, no, the Steelers. Okay.

Would be ahead of them. Nope, you're right. The Steelers have had higher level of success and better consistency. You can make a case that the Packers have been better too with Farvard Rogers. Let's agree that the Giants have been extremely above average for the last 20 years. They've had some bad years, but that's not a terrible organization. And it's certainly a place that big-name coaches and players want to play. There's no reason that Giants can't flip a switch and be good quickly.

The Dolphins would struggle with that. There's not a lot of success in Miami over time. The best player they ever had never won a championship. You know, like, Chicago, it's been a long time since Chicago was as good as people want to believe they are. That job may be not so great. But, like, I guess I just don't know what to make of the idea that Brian Flores is going to be out there able to go get a job. Somebody could have hired him. Like, they could fire a coach still just to hire him, a recently fired coach.

It really makes no sense. So I guess what I want to know most of all is, Nagy, does he go back to being a coordinator, which he apparently was very good at? Mike Zimmer, coordinator, very good at it. That the Giants have lost the most games over the last four years or five years. Like, they're not good anymore, Gabe.

All right, fair enough. And maybe being the Giants head coach isn't the job it once was. But will some of these guys who got fired as head coaches, who were notably good coordinators, go back to being coordinators? We see that happen all the time. I think I'll be a coordinator somewhere, 100%. I think Mike Zimmer might be head coach somewhere or might take a year off. Brian Flores will 100% be a head coach somewhere next season. Fangio, as Hank mentioned, got fired today or yesterday, today, whatever. He'll be a coordinator. Fangio will be a coordinator somewhere next year. So that's where I think these guys will end up.

Joe Johnson will go back to being a special teams coordinator for like Western State Tech. Yeah, or he'll go back to being some intern for Belichick or Saban will probably hire him. That's the way we probably tie the whole show together. Is Joe Judge going to end up working for Nick Saban within the next five years? I'll bet every dollar I've got.

Yes. I'm bothered when I see things like Bill O and others who've already had McDaniels, all these guys who've had their chance and didn't do anything special with it are now being talked about as obvious new hires in the NFL. Are you, are you for the retreads of guys like Bill O'Brien and others? I don't even know why I'm asking,

you know, exactly how you feel about Bill O. No, I think you, I think Jim Caldwell should be a retread who was good in Indianapolis and Detroit. Not Bill O'Brien. Like, what are we doing, guys? I think Todd Boll should get another chance again.

I think Byron Leffert should get a chance. And Eric Bien-Ami should get a chance. You know, there's other, especially like Dave Tobe on Kansas City, especially his coordinator, has been in the NFL a long time. I think he'd be a good head coach. So there's other guys around the NFL that I think would do a really good job, not just the same

retreads. Well, you know, I don't think this is why you mentioned it, but I do notice there is one thing a few of those gentlemen have in common. There's a lack of diversity in the NFL. Yes. It's not why I mentioned them. They just deserve head coaching jobs. I know. It wasn't all the guys

who mentioned it. Maybe it's a coincidence, right? Maybe it's a coincidence. Hey, we have a lack of minority head coaching in the NFL, and guess what? There's four of them that would make good head coaches. Right. And this isn't like a give some guy a chance. Jim Caldwell was a very good NFL coach last time we saw him. I would argue he still is an NFL coach.

What does that mean? Brian Flores was a winning NFL head coach as of a day ago. We're not talking about... Even Bien-Ami, it would be a promotion for him. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. A lot of people think he'd make a great head coach, but we don't know yet.

A couple of those other guys have already done the job. Todd Bowles won plenty of games as a head coach. It is odd. This offseason, this might be a story for a lot of the other take makers out there. Some of whom have stronger feelings on this issue. I think we're going to have, we're going to go back to that topic again for a while, this off season, diversity hires in the NFL. It's already, it's already been talked about. Of course. Yes. Especially if it doesn't, if we have some more nepotism in the NFL happening during this hiring cycle.

All right, let's end by tying NFL to college, and I'll just ask it this way. I can't imagine it's either of the head coaches we just watched in the national championship game, so not smarter Saban. But any chance we see that big-name, splashy college coach make his way to the NFL this offseason? The obvious name people are talking about is Harbaugh.

Got any other ideas for a college coach who could make it to the NFL by next season? NFL coach in college football. The dude at Baylor, people loved him for a minute. Dave Randa, no um no it probably just harbaugh this year it's my guess yeah okay just harbaugh and i don't think and i'm not even sure he'll be i mean bears raiders maybe right um you know maybe there was some smoke of like dabbo sweeney to the to the raiders points. Well, I could see Dabo. What about Dabo to Jacksonville?

You can't do that after you did Urban. You got to double down on Trevor. I don't see his name connected to NFL teams often, but at some point this dude's going to need to cash in, and I think this will be the year. What about Luke Fickle at Cincinnati? I think he likes Cincinnati. I don't think he's leaving.

So what, is he just waiting for the Ohio State job to open up? Like what's the next thing for him? Or he's just going to try to make championship final fours? I think he's just waiting for the Notre Dame job to open up. I mean, just remember, too, he's going to the Big 12 in a couple of years. Like they're going to Big Boy Conference very soon. Like they have to worry about this group of five thing anymore. Okay, that's a good point.

Yeah, you're right. I mean, he'll have his, probably an easier path to the playoffs than a lot of good coaches. And he'll have every shot at winning a championship if he's in the Big 12. So, all right. All right, fair enough.

Well, let's wrap up for the night. It was a great, great end to the college football season. We'll keep talking college because we'll be talking drafts. We'll be talking about recruiting and getting ready for next college football season. But most of our focus for the next month and a half is going to be the NFL. Oh, yeah.

Lots of NFL. And we'll get to the wagers for this weekend. We have an amazing – how about this? Saturday for the NFL game. This is how the ratings are going to be out the roof. Excuse me, Sunday for the NFL. Sorry, Sunday. You get Tom Brady in the early window.

Oh, yeah. Niners-Cowboys in the afternoon. Yep. Mahomes-Ste Steelers at night. Whew. Yeah. Don't give away all your picks. Don't give away all your picks.

There's going to be two blowouts of those three games, and you're not going to like the results of one of the blowouts. Well, I don't really want to use blowouts. The Eagles have not beaten a playoff team this season, just letting you know. They're not beating a playoff team this weekend either. So, sorry, buddy. No.

So, yeah, the only question is, you know, do the Bucs cover and, you know, are you taking the over? We'll get to that in a second. You'll do that on Thursday. I'm assuming that the game you think could be close is Niners-Cowboys. Oh, yeah. And you're very confident in your Chiefs. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. All right. That's a good little teaser for me, Jeff. I'll have to listen to you and Matt on Thursday. And then we'll be talking again on Monday after all that playoff action. All right, guys. Have a great Tuesday.

We'll be back Thursday as Gabe mentioned with Powerball and Varsity Podcast Network. It's been a long couple days watching football. Glad to be here with you guys to do all that. And we'll talk to you in a couple of days. Take care, everybody.