Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Lamar Jackson's Trade Request and Other Fallout from the Owners' Meeting

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

Geoff is back with Gabe Goodwin to talk through the entire Lamar Jackson standoff-- who really has the leverage in this situation, Lamar or the Ravens? And would this be over already if Lamar had an agent? Plus, the Commanders are on the move, and we do not talk about Kanye. Definitely no mention of Kanye here.Be sure to rate, comment, and follow the pod for a new episode each week during the offseason.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

it's wednesday march 29th i'm jeff schwartz alongside gabe goodwin this jeff schwartz is smarter than you we have a great show for you today always nfl in the news lamar jackson might get his deal but boy is he going about the wrong way aaron rogers again in the news nfl pro days nfl draft is one month away over unders and so get into. Gabe, how are you doing, buddy? I'm doing all right. The North Venice Little League Mets won a game the other day against the Braves. Yeah, I know listeners of this podcast needed to hear that result. My son has his first game today. I'm looking forward to it tonight.

It's his first kid pitch game, so I'm looking forward to seeing. Every parent tells me those kid pitch games. Not a lot of strikes thrown. All right, well. Could be a long day long day uh long night but i'm looking forward to seeing uh alex schwartz in his first kid pitch game good luck to alex uh i hope i hope that after he plays people aren't saying man that that kid's great he needs an agent out there because that's all they're saying about lamar jackson still, this time, I got to say I

was long in the camp of like, shut up. Not everyone has to do it the same way. Lamar's a smart dude. He's got some other smart person helping him. But I'm starting to wonder if maybe actually Lamar does need an agent. Apparently, according to him on social, you know, he requested the trade on March 2nd. It's now almost a month later, still no deal. It seems like it's getting hung up by the deal makers. What's he doing wrong here, Jeff? All right, so here's what's happening for those who haven't followed.

A couple of days ago, there was a memo sent out that said a man named Ken Francis was negotiating or contacting teams on behalf of Lamar Jackson, who's not a certified NFLPA agent. And therefore, you are not allowed to speak to him about a Lamar Jackson deal. Okay? Lamar came out and said, that guy's never spoken for me. 25 hours later, there's a tweet from Lamar Jackson introducing a product called the entire gym with ken francis so obviously he knows ken francis now whether or not this was all a marketing ploy seems really

dumb if that's the case like this guy's calling around on behalf of nfl teams to drum up business for a stupid gym you're selling for yourself? Or in fact, Ken Francis was calling around for Lamar Jackson because Lamar Jackson needs someone to call around for him, right? And then it comes out the day John Harbaugh is about to speak at NFL Owners Meetings, which is happening right now. Lamar Jackson requested a trade on March 2nd. So Gabe, part of, I think, excelling in life is knowing what you're good and what you're

bad at. And you can get better at things you're bad at while still being good at the things you're good at. Like for example, I'm not very good at times at being creative when it comes to content like creation, right? I'm a good executor. You tell me, Jeff Schwartz, you do this. It's like an offensive line thing, right?

Like Jeff Schwartz, you block this guy, you got it. I'll block that guy. You tell me, hey, Jeff Schwartz, I need you to do this thing, this? Like Jeff Schwartz, you block this guy, you got it. I'll block that guy. You tell me, hey, Jeff Schwartz, I need you to do this thing, this content creation thing. I need you to do this and you come up with it. Great. I will do that. I'm not the best. I'm trying to get better at content creation, but I know that I need help from guys like you, right? And Lamar Jackson should realize he needs help from the professionals that negotiate complex NFL contracts. Everyone uses the example right now of Laramie Tunsell, the Texans left tackle who reset the market

with an NFL contract two weeks ago, three years, $75 million. He did it by himself without any agent. Now he had a representative help him through the process. Okay, for the most part, NFL deals can be pretty simple. Okay, Laramie Tunsell goes, I am a very good offensive tackle, which he is. I want more money than the last guy who got paid, which is Trent Williams. Texans, I think I deserve this much money.

The Texans go, okay, you're pretty good. Guess what? We'll give you the money. Here you go, buddy. Done. Lamar Jackson's not that simple. You asked for a trade. You asked for a trade, right? So the Ravens are

like, okay, well, guess what? We don't want to outright trade you. And we can't, by the way, because we would lose your rights. So we gave you this non-exclusive franchise tag, go find a trade. But guess what, Gabe? Who is finding the trade for him? Not his agent. He doesn't have an agent. So is Lamar Jackson calling? And mind you, this is beyond the general manager level. have an agent so is lamar jackson calling and mind you this is beyond the general manager level this is the owner level the owners are the ones involved now when you're asking for 150 million dollars guaranteed 200 million dollars guaranteed so is lamar jackson calling jim ursae the colts hey lamar jackson here let's negotiate a deal is he calling stephen ross of the of the dolphins arthur blank of the falcons Certainly he might be doing that,

but guess who has relationships with those guys already? The Asians do, right? This is part of why, again, like in his specific case, having someone who has done this exact thing before would be so helpful because he would have known the market rate. The Ravens knew on March 2nd that Lamar wanted out. Do you not think that they called other teams around the NFL and said, hey, would you be willing to trade for Lamar Jackson? They knew the market already. That's why they said, buddy, go find your market. Be my guest.

Outdo the deal that we have for you. And the answer really for so far we've seen, no one's willing to pay that contract that Lamar wants. No one's giving him his Deshaun Watson deal. Now, will they match the Ravens deal? Possibly. But I think it's going to happen after the draft. If you're the Colts right now,

that seems to be the most common destination for him. It is draft a quarterback at four or miss out on a quarterback on the draft and trade for Lamar Jackson. And you have to weigh yourself. You have to weigh the options right now, right? And again, very rarely do players like Lamar come up in ever, in franchise,

especially a player of his caliber and his talent. But you have to weigh if your team, okay, we have a quarterback who has kind of handled this a little bit awkwardly. That plays a little role in this. But a guy who hasn't finished the last two years healthy, who wants a fully guaranteed contract, and we're not going to give that to him, but someone who wants it, obviously. We've got to trade draft picks for Lamar Jackson.

So we bring him into our team, pay him a ton of money, and then trade away draft assets. Is that getting us closer to a Super Bowl? Or is drafting a young quarterback, sticking with that guy, but with a team around him, is that getting us closer to a Super Bowl? Because we know the Chiefs are the first team to ever win a Super Bowl with a quarterback making more than 12% of a salary cap. Right?

That's Pat Mahomes. Tom Brady, for all those years, took a little bit less in New England. I don't buy the whole his wife makes so much money that he took less. I think he just took less because he knew it would help him win. I never bought that whole thing about he took less because Gisele makes so much money. I think he knew that. He didn't take less. Wickersham reported on it.

I know. They were paying other people. I know. Whatever. Irero the whole thing yes of course so lamar might get what he wants and the ravens are also a tough spot i can see the ravens look man the ravens are in an interesting spot here they said all the right things they want lamar back but i can really see them saying look man we gave this non-suit tag go find a deal good luck and they kind of hope he does find a deal and they get rid of him get draft picks back be really bad this year and get Caleb Williams next year like they're in a spot where like they're sort of like a tinkering where they're like the roster's not really good and even adding Lamar Jackson back to the roster they're gonna win a

lot of games because Lamar's really good but you can make the case where it's like like if he goes let's just stink for a year have a bunch of draft picks for next year and kind of reload after one season it's interesting position this doesn't happen in the nfl very often but you know lamar is going about this in a even in the even in the tweet announcing that he wants a trade he included a link at the end to like subscribe to a fan page it's a non-traditional way to go about this which again can certainly work but what is the nfl not like non-traditional right like and again and you can fight that and certainly there's argument to be made of fighting the man right like fight the nfl change the way things are done this certainly can do that deshaun watson changed the way things are done. They certainly can do that. Deshaun Watson changed the way things are done

with that fully guaranteed contract. But also, too, like, I think Lamar kind of read this wrong. I don't think he's going to get that deal. I thought he would. I was wrong about that. I think the Ravens knew that, too, Gabe. And it's very clear they knew when they gave him that non-exclusive tag that he requested a trade.

I still think he comes back to the Ravens. I don't think a team is going to give him the deal he wants. Yeah. I think an important thing, maybe you could go deeper on this than I can,

but an important thing for people to remember, and this is a good week to point it out as we know the owners are getting together. You know, obviously the players and the coaches on the field

want to win the game. They view the other teams as their competition. They will, they don't like some of those guys. They're fighting against them to win in game. They view the other teams as their competition. They will. They don't like some of those guys. They're fighting against them to win in a zero sum game every Sunday. The owners don't work that way. They are business owners in one large collective. That doesn't mean everything they do is collusion. That doesn't mean everything they do is some conspiracy to hurt Lamar Jackson or hold down players, but they have each other's interests in mind at all times.

They are business partners. Yes. So when they start to move in a certain direction and think this guy isn't worth it, they kind of all start to think that way because they sit on a board together. I mean, that's just common sense. I don't think there is collusion to the,

where someone said to, they all got in a room and said like let's not pay lamar jackson but remember no it's not but remember but remember right when this time last year the ravens owner came out and was like yeah we're not doing that deshaun watson deal like the nfl because it's not the deshaun watson deal was a fully guaranteed contract kirk cousins has gone that before it said he got like $70 million more guaranteed than the next quarterback. And the deals that followed him,

Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray, never reached that point. And so, you know, Lamar to me could get a really good deal with a lot of guarantees and also kind of like virtual guarantees because quarterbacks most often Gabe see their entire contracts or get new deals because they played so well in their current

contracts the market is up and they need to redo their contract how many quarterbacks really how many quarterbacks that get paid these second contracts how many of these quarterbacks we talked about oh my god that contract's so bad and they still see the entire thing yeah they all these quarterbacks do so and that's I's, I think, where, again, the agent, someone who is, and again, you can pay an agent 1%. You can say, hey, man, I'm going to pay you X amount of money

and just do my deal. Just one-time thing. I'm just going to sign you for. It's a one-time deal. You do this deal, you only get 1%. You get X amount of money. You bill me hourly, however you want to do it. Just so someone, but you have someone there

that is saying to you, hey, man man this is where you're at right now and a deal might have gone done and again lamar might get what he wants to get a team might be so desperate hey man we'll give you a 180 guaranteed but also too the ravens might want to match that like that thing too is that the other part of this is the ravens can can come back and match any offer sheet that any team gives to lamar jackson be the owners i don't think are are openly colluding to where they get in a room and get like this week they're in they're in phoenix together i think and they're in a room saying we're not paying lamar jackson but you're right in the end they're looking out for themselves and they talk they're having a drink it comes up it's like can you believe that yeah well you know joe over there screwed up when he did this.

But you don't have to say it explicitly for everyone to understand what's going on. Not to mention, like, aren't the Ravens basically playing poker and they've just they're sitting on a good hand. They know they have a good hand and they've just checked around the table. So they're like, God, see, let me see what you do. If you put all your chips in. Well, maybe I don't like my hand so much. But if you come limping in, I'm going to re-raise you and I'm going to win. That's all this is.

Absolutely. NFL owners news, by the way, the NFL owners have voted, while we're speaking, to allow players to wear the number zero. Oh, well, that's great. Big NFL news. The NFL owners also table a proposal to create the fourth and 20 alternative to an onside kick. It's not voted down, but they're going to discuss it further. That would be awesome.

The USFL does that, right? Fourth and 20 alternative? Explain that. Yeah, so the USFL does this. I think the XFL does it too. Instead of an onside kick to get the ball back, you can have a fourth and 15 attempt on offense. Put your offense on it. Yeah, and if you convert that, then you just get the ball back, you can have a fourth and 15 attempt on offense. Put your offense on the ball.

Yeah, and if you convert that, then you just get the ball where you convert the fourth and 15 attempt. That's, I think, a fun rule. Anything that eliminates kickers from the game of football, I'm for. How would you feel if your kicker wore number zero and missed the game-winning kick for your test?

Kickers should be required to wear the number zero, for the record. That should be a kicker number only. And if you wear zero, you should be required to wear the number zero for the record that should be a kicker number only and if you wear zero you should be mocked the are you go back and look at this sand the sandler loneliest kicker song from about 20 years ago as he was nominated and uh given the mark twain award loneliest kicker by adam sandler's a sleeper song for all sports fans your take on place kickers you and larry david is going to age very well yeah it's probably one of your best takes you've had on this show um your take about is aaron rogers actually going to

become a jet man my take is he going to be a joke are we are we sure i'd like to not talk about him and just segue from lamar and him and say what for all the headaches that the jets would have to go through to get aaron rogers to come play for them. And then, by the way, still not be happy or make them that much better. Why don't they just figure it out with Lamar Jackson or whoever the hell represents him? That would be a much better option. I mean, even just listening to the Jets coaches this week, they're like, yeah, he doesn't need to show up for OTAs. He knows the coordinator. I'm like, what about the wide receivers?

Yeah. The offensive line. And just like meeting his teammates and simple things. Look, you can make fun of Tom Brady and hate him all you want, but he showed up to offseason program each year. I know, Gabe, you don't like him, but dude seems like a good teammate. Yeah. Right?

Like every one of his teammates has said he's a good teammate. Yes. Rogers, I don't know. I mean, people seem to like him, I guess, but he doesn't show up to offseason program. They just make these excuses for him. Oh, no, no. He knows the coordinator.

Okay, congratulations. The coordinator has been terrible as an OC. Everywhere he's been as an OC. Everywhere he's called plays, Nate Hackett has been an awful offensive coordinator. The number is buried. He might be better because he's Aaron Rodgers now, but it'd be kind of nice to get your quarterback in the building.

Like, get this deal done, get him in, and get him moving in the building like get this deal done get him in and get him moving the right direction I found it pretty interesting that the Packers general manager said yeah we reached out to Aaron Rodgers he just didn't return our calls I find that to be true I don't think he's long about that I think it was very clear that both sides were done with each other even Aaron picked up the phone call they were going to tell him they're trading him like they weren't going to tell him like hey we're making up come back it was going to be like hey we're getting rid of you and rogers probably knew that and didn't answer the phone call but you know rogers is able to craft this singular message via the pat mcafee show and i think that his message is probably you know not

always the truth of what's happening out there with the packers but i don't know i think he'll be traded way after the draft is my opinion opinion. Well, so what we just talked about, we're not accusing owners of colluding or there being some grand conspiracy to keep Lamar Jackson from getting the contract he wants. But we are agreeing

that they kind of understand where each other are and they kind of move in a pack and they are aligned on more things than it would suggest given that they, you know, own opposing teams.

So why aren't that same group of guys kind of just turning on Aaron Rodgers and just stopping with this indulging of nonsense from him? Why isn't it just like, yeah, then retire, dude. Like, whatever. Who cares? We're moving on. It crushes the Packers' salary gap. Like, that's why they need him to play for someone else. That's why they care. I'm saying all the other teams. Like, that's why they need him to play for someone else. That's why they care. I'm saying all the other teams.

Like, why does anyone care? Just fine. Okay. Because I think, because look, if Rodgers is healthy, his thumb was beat up last year, he's still a good quarterback. He can still play. And when your talent outweighs your problems,

you're going to find a chance to play. And when your problems outweigh your talent, you're out of there. His talent can still outweigh his problems and the jets this is the best quarterback suggested had a franchise history right gabe i mean joe namath i guess but like rogers is better than him so you get a chance to get no i don't dude i don't know man i like eric i've liked aaron rogers when it wasn't cool i've liked him brett farver i guess for a year i guess for your pennington's best years were better than whatever aaron Rodgers is going to do this year,

but that doesn't matter. That's not the point. He, at most, gets them 10 or 11 wins. At most. They're not going to win any games in the playoffs. He doesn't even win games in the playoffs with the team that was built for him. Yeah. What are we doing is the question.

And so that's why I'm saying it is important to compare and contrast it with lamar jackson why is aaron rogers still considered like a thing you go get and lamar jackson is like a guy who's crazy and needs an agent and by the way aaron rogers agent who's that does he have any say it doesn't seem like it there's something that we're turning off and i think it's just the idea of a player going about it differently in Lamar Jackson. Like the Aaron Rodgers saga, Brett Favre has done this. Plenty of quarterbacks have done this at the end of their career, right? But Lamar is doing this so differently than everyone else has done it. And there always is a pushback on the NFL side when a player is doing things differently, right?

And so I think there is a little bit of pushback just naturally from the NFL side of Lamar Jackson doing things differently, not doing an agent, negotiating maybe through media, maybe not, but just non-traditionally doing things. And there's always a little pushback. Aaron Rodgers, this is a traditional path of former quarterbacks.

Like, I mean, disgruntled quarterbacks, Joe Montana was disgruntled, left San Francisco, right? Like, there's been a Brett Favre left Green Bay. There's been a long line of disgruntled quarterbacks. Brady left, I mean, I don't know how disgruntled he was, but he left. This happens often. The way Lamar's doing it is unique for his age and his style of doing it and his ask

of the fully guaranteed money that maybe he's just turning NFL teams off from negotiating with him at the moment I think there's a lot of teams will be open for negotiations after the draft there will be offers put forth in my opinion I don't know if they'll be better than what he has from the Ravens yeah all right I'm going to bring something up that isn't in our rundown but I texted you right before the show Jim Irsay basically said, I'm not, I'm never giving fully guaranteed contracts. And it sort of makes sense to me, I guess. But this is always, especially with that as your messenger, this is always a sensitive topic of like, are these owners too greedy? Should players in the NFL be paid like they are in the NBA? They take on these huge risks. They're the source of

all the revenue. Why don't they make more of the profit? Yada, yada, yada. I sympathize with a lot of the pro player arguments, but I'm curious what you think as far as like the way guys view their money, how much of it do they feel like they've earned versus what is just theirs already?

Like, you know, like guarantee versus non-guarantee. Like, how do guys view that money? Yeah, I saw Erse's quote. I saw the tweet you sent me. Mind you, baseball and basketball, to my recollection, they don't actually have in their collective bargaining agreements guaranteed contracts. That's just understood in the language of the deals the way

NFL players view their money is anyone outside of quarterback views on guaranteed money because as soon as your guaranteed money is up the team can cut you right if you're guaranteed money so like my deal with the Giants I had guaranteed money into year two basically so I viewed that in my head as a two-year deal two years years. Now, my guaranteed money wasn't all of year two, but it was enough in the year two where they weren't going to release me because they would have too much of a cap hit to pay me for not being on their team.

So, but again, with the quarterback position is different because let's say you have a four-year deal for like 200 million on the quarterback side. And let's say a hundred million is guaranteed. Okay, so that's a two-year, a hundred million dollar deal essentially it's easy money right 50 million dollars a year most quarterbacks are seeing that four-year deal most of them stay healthy they see that whole deal right even if they get traded they're going to see the rest of that deal if you're a position player and you get a four-year deal for 200 million dollars if you don't perform you're out after two and you don't see thatyear deal for $200 million, if you don't perform, you're out after two,

and you don't see that extra $100 million. That's what happens most often. So a lot of NFL players do view their contracts as, what do I have guaranteed money? That's why we talk about guaranteed money so much. That's what you know you're getting. The other part is actually this bonus. It's gravy if you can make the other part.

But Lamar, for him, I think it's a status thing, right? It's like, I should get more than Deshaun Watson, which we've talked about for months now. I think it's the right way to approach a negotiation. It doesn't mean that you will get what you want. Yeah, well, he should, but also the world changes. You lose a lot of sleep thinking about other people's money and what you deserve versus them.

So I hope for his sake he stops worrying about that and just gets what he can. But so you're saying basically these giant numbers that we hear most players have enough sense not to really count that money until they've gotten it and so how do they view let's say you're you're not a bust and you're not obviously a great quarterback earning every dollar you're somewhere in the middle you know and you're like you're paid a pretty good amount but it's not all guaranteed your performance is pretty good you're better than most guys but you kind of are replaceable do do guys go harder to try to earn it do they get pissed off like how does that work in from

an incentive one of the big misconceptions about nfl players when you get paid you kind of shut it down i've always felt that players when you get paid you almost feel like there's a responsibility I've always felt that players, when you get paid, you almost feel like there's a responsibility to make all your money, right? And to live up to your contract. And the possibility to get even more money if you play well. Once you make that money, you actually feel like, I'm going to keep playing well to continue to make this much money.

I think players continue to play that way, to continue to want to make money, to continue to be good, and continue that whole process moving forward all right because in baseball growing up we were sort of always warned about contract years be suspicious of a guy on a contract year as stats are suddenly going to you know go crazy he's going to have the best year of his career and you're saying it's not exactly how it works in the nfl if you look at most guys in the nfl though like the better players remember this last week though, like, the better players, remember this last week

for free agency, right? The better players end up, you know, being resigned by their own team. They don't even get to free agency. Right.

So contract year stuff doesn't really happen. It doesn't happen very often because baseball is a sport that's so individualistic, right? Like, it's you by yourself. Obviously, there's many ways to manipulate your own stats.

We've seen this for baseball history, right? Like, the thing was like, well, guy had 20 home had 20 home runs now has 47 maybe it's not all natural in his contract season yeah right that was the thing with we were kids right like yep have a farm off when we were kids you oh brady anderson had 53 home runs this year oh he had eight the year before weird weird okay that's weird um this happens i think far less in baseball now where because of the advanced stats and the way things are tracked now, there's better metrics to track success than overall home runs.

It doesn't, you know, in baseball, you're not handcuffed by, I think, that concept anymore of kind of how they play in contract years. By the way, are you ready for baseball to start this week? It, like, starts this week. Yeah, I am. I'm a Mets fan. And if we get to October, i can't be bothered with the mets in april the giants open up in in new york playing the yankees on thursday i was like oh okay that's interesting actually yeah logan webb garrett cole i'm more excited about baseball than i have been

for many years because i think the mets will be exciting because the angels who are my adopted team out here are exciting even if they aren't great. And because my kids are finally old enough to sit down and watch a few innings at night. So we'll get into it. If the Angels can't make a playoff with Otani and healthy trout, then they should just disband the franchise. They should never play baseball again. I agree with that. Same for the Mets, by the way.

Mets-Marlins opening day on thursday yeah well we'll watch um hey so we we mentioned it the owners are all together this can be a quickie i guess what is the point of these meetings other than creating funny rules about fourth and 20 and uh and colluding well not collusion yeah what are they what are they doing because i'm really you know i see funny stuff about brian dayball's cracking beers before noon and all that but like what is the stated purpose of these meetings other than just fixing a few flood rule what is the stated purpose of any convention okay so it's just the same kind of boondoggle south by southwest or any other industry has yes all right great that's fine you go to a nice place somebody pays the bill just to go and

see your buddies all Alright, fair enough. Well, let me ask you this. Since it's a very insider's club and it's very hard to be an NFL owner. And we've been waiting for years now. And you spent time talking about this with Matt, I'm sure. It seems we're only one or two seasons away from finally

replacing the owner in Washington. What will that actually take? I think it's happening before the draft. You really think it's that soon? Okay. That's what people are reporting. We have two actual bids for $6 billion.

Okay, fine. So let's say they meet the price and Snyder says, fine, whatever. I'll walk away. I'll take my enormous payday as long as I'm not going to be investigated for X, Y y and z any longer then the next guy comes in is he just he's in and now he's just treated like everyone else or is

there like a initiation process no he's in he's in um hank and obviously he's listening to this and matt listen to this like washington has a very passionate fan base it's an older fan base obviously right there they've had a lot of success in previous years. They're a longtime NFL franchise. And they're waiting for an owner to give a shit. The funny clip that was going around, Mike Daniel, the Dolphins coach,

saying that basically like, why didn't we get free coffee when I was coaching there seven years ago? Hank says the fan base is declining. It won't decline anymore when you get an owner you care about, that cares about the football team.

When you have an owner that cares about the team, that will put forth actual effort into making this team good, that will bring the fans back to Washington, D.C. It'll bring the fans back to the fan base, and all the stuff about the fan base plummeting, all the stuff, it will change all around, I promise you. The fans will be back.

You're probably built a new stadium. I would imagine every owner wants to do that. It revitalized that franchise. Okay. All right. Well, I hope that happens. I'm rooting for that franchise to turn things around.

Let's move the line. We got a few over unders. I want to hit him real quick. We haven't talked about Ezekiel Elliott yet. Probably the biggest name left out there with a question mark over his head, I guess, apart from Rodgers and Lamar. So over under 40% chance, Zeke signs a deal before Aaron Rodgers knows where he's going. I think he probably will sign a deal before Rodgers. Well, Rodgers knows where he's going. It's basically where Rodgers ends up. Rodgers thinks he knows where he's going.

I would say yes. I would say zeke has a one-year deal somewhere um right after the draft okay and do you think her previous conversation about proving oneself and wanting another guaranteed money i don't think he's ever going to get a long-term contract to get okay so he's just one of those running backs who roams the earth like frank gore did yes okay we'll see if he has the heart to keep doing it for five or ten more years uh over under 30 chance brock purdy secures a multi-year future with the niners assuming he comes back healthy under no really i think it's a fun story i just don't think he's going to be that guy moving forward okay even though the gm lynch seems to think he earned the spot in two years to give

him 160160 million guaranteed to be their quarterback of the future? Is that what we're looking at? I don't know. I would say no. Is he going to be this thing that Niners fans regret one day? Does Brock Purdy go play somewhere else and win a Super Bowl and they go, whoa, man.

I do not think so. All right. So he's more, who was it? Not Matt. Shoot. Who was the guy on the Packers who ended up getting the huge Matt Flynn? He's better than Matt Flynn.

Better than Matt Flynn. I think. All right. Better than Matt Flynn. That's a, that's a good bar to clear. All right. Over under 40% chance.

You'll be, uh, you'll be, well, we covered this, but you'll be tuned in on opening day. I'll be watching opening day. Yes.

A hundred percent chance. All right. Yes. A hundred percent. And over under 85 wins for your giants this year. They're over under set at 81 and a right. Yes, 100% chance. And over under 85 wins for your Giants this year. They're over under set at 81.5. Oh, we went higher. It just sucks to watch your team know they're going to be average.

It is what it is. No chance of being good. They're just not going to be good. Okay. That's depressing. Over under 50% chance the men's Final Four is more entertaining than the last time the championship was held in Houston, entertaining than the last time the championship was held in houston which uh was a wild crazy buzzer beater finishes with north carolina villanova it won't it won't be more entertaining probably um uconn is probably gonna win can i tell you what though friday night is gonna be

south carolina at iowa women's college basketball. That game is going to be incredible. If you just have to take a peek at Friday night, Iowa has Kaitlin Clark, who just scored a 40-point triple-double the other night. And South Carolina does not lose. It'd be fun to watch Friday night. Okay. Friday night, take a peek at that one.

San Diego State or FAU will be in the championship game. Yeah. Pretty wild. Very wild. Yeah, how about that? FAU making it would the championship game. Yeah. Pretty wild. Very well. Yeah. How about that? FAU making it would be, I didn't know they had a basketball program.

A lot of, a lot of think pieces are coming out of that. If that, it's going to be incredible, right? A lot of theories are going to come out. All right. Uh,

over under 40% chance that John wick for chapter four is actually the best one yet. Is Rocky the only franchise where the fourth movie is the best movie? I mean, even past movie one is the best movie of any franchise. Well, that's interesting. Typically, the best one is the first one, right? I'm not great,

and I don't know which of the Mission Impossible movies are better than the others, but it's possible like number four there was awesome. I'm not sure. Oh. Fast and Furious 4 was for tokyo drift uh i've

seen one i don't even know if they're you know what i think tokyo drift was three i don't know what four was and then five came out i would say that uh john wick four probably will not be the best one okay i want to see creative three though i'm not seeing creative three oh that's really good oh crazy yeah i'm gonna wait till i'm on a plane one day but i'm definitely gonna see that yeah um i'm not reading this last one it's got too many things in it that i don't want to get into that's we we got we got we're up against it on time for the audience the question involved jonah hill and kanye we're skipping this we're gonna just say it's been a fun show why don't't we just get ready for some draft talk in a week and not touch this topic at all. Hang on, you guys are in trouble.

Come on, Hank. It's not happening, Hank. We've got three Jews on the show. I'm glad we're back on the good side, though, on this conversation. Hey, it's great to be back. Thanks, Kanye. We're back. We're back, everyone.

Thank you, Jonah. I appreciate your work in 21 Jump Street. Who would have known? Classic film. We would have brought together... Well, see, now you did touch it. We said we weren't touching it. All right, guys.

Have a great week. Talk to you guys next week. Short and simple this week. Hey, we will have a draft special about three weeks from now as we normally do. We're all going to get together, all four of us, and put together our brilliant minds and our favorite show of the year.

Do a mock draft. Linderbaum! Linderbaum. Linderbaum. The Ravens. Gabe called it. John Michael Schmitz, the center from Minnesota. He's going to be your guy this year, I'm telling you. All right, guys.

Have a great week. We'll talk to you next week. Take care, everybody. you