Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Mahomes’ Contract, Shanahan’s Blunders & Kansas City's Dynasty?

Episode Date: February 4, 2020

The season is complete & the Kansas City Chiefs are champions. Geoff returns from Miami to break down everything from Super Bowl parties to Mahomes' contract flexibility to whether or not Kansas City is beginning a dynasty. Super Bowl Parties: (2:56) Chiefs Dynasty? (7:25) Pat Mahomes’ Contract: (12:05) Shanahan & Refs: (18:00) Tom Brady to Raiders?: (26:00) ‘Move the Line’ Betting Segment: (30:40) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The game is over and the Chiefs kingdom has firmly planted its flag on top of football's highest summit. The Kansas City Chiefs are champions of Super Bowl 54. Super Bowl 54. From The Athletic, I'm Jeff Schwartz. A Schwartz brother just won the big Super Bowl. Everyone's blaming Kyle Shanahan and the officials, and Pat Mahomes deserves the richest NFL contract ever handed out.

It's Tuesday, February 4th, and this is Jeff Schwartz is Smarter Than You. I am back, everyone, from Miami. Wow. My brother, the Chiefs, Andy Reid, won a Super Bowl in a game that was very close for a very long time. Nothing was going to get done. Gabe, the Chiefs are champions. Yeah, Mazel Tov, my friend. We were all happy for you.

Felt a little me and Zuri, the team who put this together. We felt a part of that victory. It was very cool to watch. Congrats to you and your brother. It was, man, it was great. It was like being in the stands with the Chiefs fans. I mean, to see them as happy as they were, it was so awesome. Like, they did it in 50 years, right? They're diehard fans.

They love their team. And it was incredible watching them celebrate. Obviously, I'm so happy for my brother, but for Andy Reid and the way it went down, 21 fourth quarter points, a lot to digest from this weekend. Yeah, I got a bunch of stuff I want to get to. I want to ask this before we dive into our topics. Normally, I've been to a lot of Super Bowl weeks, and it's always interesting to see which team brings more fans you know and some of that has to do with the geography so who who owned the town who owned the beach this week oh i think it was definitely the chiefs even in the game there were a lot of and i was actually surprised to see that i thought there'd be more niners fans

but um there were tons and tons of cheese fans a little it was a little hard because you know both teams are primarily red so sometimes it was hard to tell but i around town i saw cheese fans a little it was a little hard because you know both teams are primarily red so sometimes it was hard to tell but i i round town i saw cheese fans the game and you know obviously i could be a little um you know i guess recency bias regency bias whatever it's whatever is it recency bias what is it when you're sitting like in the stands around cheese fans that would make you think there's more cheese fans and ninersers fans. What do you call that term? Is there a term for that? I'm not sure there's specifically a term for that.

But I was sitting with Chiefs fans, so maybe it felt louder because I'm in the Chiefs fans. So whenever they cheered, it felt super loud, unlike the Niners fans that were across the field from us. Yeah, like when you go to an EDM concert, you can't imagine how anyone else in the world wouldn't love Diplo. But you're surrounded by Diplo fans. So that's kind of... Chainsmokers, the concert on Friday night was fabulous.

Thank you for asking. Saturday night. Thank you for asking, actually. I appreciate that. See, the nights are blurring together and I know you haven't slept much. We'll get to that in a minute. But let me start here. Normally the premise of this show, right, is that I kind of sift through the internet.

I watch the morning TV shows. I digest the takes that are bouncing around that I think maybe are right, maybe are wrong. And then you kind of unpack them for us and make us a little smarter about football. So typically, that's kind of X and O type stuff, you know, people popping off and saying the wrong thing about how football works. Today, though, we're going to start with something that you now can make us smarter on that we don't usually get to talk about. Super Bowl parties. So here's what the party looks like in my mind, Jeff, and I know you were out all night on Sunday after the game.

You'll tell us about it, but in my mind, a Super Bowl victory party is basically like walking into that scene in Almost Famous and the quarterback standing on the roof and saying, I'm a golden god and diving into a pool of money and champagne and there's beautiful people dancing and there's no phones so nobody can have their career ended.

It's just a giant happy party where everyone is having the best time of their life. Make us a little smarter. Is that really what it's like? I actually think it was more fun for everyone but the players. I actually didn't see a lot of players in there. A lot of players ended up just going to live, like right from the game, like almost to live to go party.

Obviously, I saw my brother at the postgame. There weren't a lot of players there. It was all the friends and family that were allowed to go to the party were having a great time. I saw some of the wives up there on the stage. So Flo Rida was there, and he performed relatively early. I didn't get to the party until maybe midnight. He was basically already done.

And then there was another act coming up we didn't know who it was and we kept guessing and then finally pitbull came on stage and he was on from 2 to 3 a.m and there was it was the best part of the night might have been the they had funnel cake fries whoa that were unreal um you know a lot of just, a lot of players were just tired. I mean, my brother didn't stay up the whole night, right? I mean, he went to bed. He's tired. Just won a Super Bowl, just playing a game.

A lot of guys with, you know, some alcohol beverages. A lot of players with unsmoked cigars. They passed out cigars, but you obviously can't smoke them in a hotel. It was wild. It was crazy. A long time coming. A lot of the longtime Chiefs personnel, their equipment manager, Alan Wright. I mean, just to see the joy in his face and all the other staffers that have been there for a long time.

Obviously, some of the staff has been with Andy Arita his whole career. And to see them so happy for Andy. And I was hoping Andy would be in the mosh pit dancing to Pitbull, but I couldn't find him. I was disappointed. Last comment to the Chiefs owner, Clark Hunt, Brett Veach, the GM and Andy Reid were all wearing the old school Lamar Hunt black jacket with the Chiefs logo on it. It was pretty fly.

Oh, that does sound nice. So you're saying that some of the players are naughty. I'm like, I'm picturing, you know, 53 gronks out there, shirts off, ties around their heads. Everyone's drinking all the drinks they didn't get to drink for the last few months. I was a little bit surprised with actually the lack of like player madness during the party. I think a lot of them went to live. I don't think a lot of them were there. That's why.

I mean, I probably only saw. So you're saying there might be some party somewhere that is what I'm imagining. 10 to 12 players. I didn't see a lot of them. Wow. Okay. I saw like out of my brother's teammates, even like his offensive linemen. I saw one.

I saw the offensive line coach. I saw Kelsey for a little bit. It wasn't a lot of guys i know it was dark i mean it was like i saw a video of paul rudd dancing i didn't see like paul rudd it was it was dark in a giant convention room i did i did dance next to eric stone street for a while and uh it was eric is he's a fun dude man he's he's he loves his cheese what song got you and eric stone street on the dance floor together what am i pitbull man the whole set it was good i got got my concert rankings.

I went to four. I saw four different performers, including the halftime show. It was Chainsmokers 1A, Pitbull 1B. Pitbull puts on a show, man. It was great. No doubt. And then I like the halftime show. It was hard to hear the speakers and everything, but I thought it was a good show.

Lizzo was okay. I mean, some of her stuff I didn't terribly like. It's a whole lot of women shaking though. It was, it was, it was, it made some, it made some people I was with very uncomfortable.

I loved it. It was awesome. She, she can sing though. Wow. She can really sing. She sure can. And so you got a little taste of the,

the VIP life this weekend. We'll come back to that in a little bit. But, you know, the thing you know best, aside from dance music, is football. And this was a great game. You know, you teased it. There's that 21 points at the end. So I'm going to throw a take at you. I want your reaction to this.

This will go a lot of different directions. So here we go. I think, much like the Warriors when they still had Steph on that bargain contract early in his career and then they begin that amazing run, I think the Chiefs are poised to keep a core team together that could become a dynasty. So Pat and company, they could repeat next year and they would have a chance to really build a team that can't be built in the NFL before most of these guys hit 30 and before, frankly, Pat is making nine figures. Brady's fading lamar and deshaun aren't really there yet they're not on pat's level yet this is a rare chance in the nfl if they do a few things right i think if they keep the joy of this weekend going they and all sort of

sacrifice a little they can make a dynasty like we haven't seen in years okay so a lot of talk about this by the way, right? Because we know this is the culture we're in where we have a bunch of hot takes. But look, obviously I'm a Chiefs fan, but let's step back here for a second and actually think about what we're talking about. In the last, what, since,

all goes since 2001, okay? Since the Patriots' first title. There has been one dynasty in the NFL, the England Patriots. And they won three and four years then won what three and five years three and four years again um 2014 16 17 is that how it went with them or somewhere right it was it was they won obviously i think it was like 14 16 18 right whatever they two separate times where they had dynasties and was 10 years in between those dynasties.

In that time period, two teams won two Super Bowls, right? The Steelers and the Giants. And Peyton Manning won two on two separate teams. Otherwise, there has not even been anything close to a dynasty. And I'm not sure you'd call the Steelers a dynasty. You would definitely not call the Giants a dynasty, right? So to continue success in the NFL is very, very difficult. It's hard because of frequency. It's hard because of injuries and attrition. It's hard for many, many reasons. And it's, I think, premature. I know it's a fun topic, but it's premature to just say all of a sudden

the Chiefs are going to do this. if you look at if you look at by the way um you know even just like the painted mannings colts for example painted mannings colts one i believe it is here i are my friend um chris brown at smart football he's a great follow by the way um you know from 99 2010 the manning the manning colts averaged nearly 12 wins per season. They appeared in two Super Bowls and won only one. It's very hard to be a dynasty. Think about this season alone for the Chiefs. And this is, by the way, not taking anything away from the Chiefs.

I think you need some of this, we'll call it luck. I'm not sure it's luck, but you need some of this to win a Super Bowl. Think about this. Week 17, entering week 17, they're the three seed and having a home playoff game against the Red Hot Titans. Instead, the Dolphins beat the Patriots for the first time in New England since Tom Brady became a

full-time starter, right? Then, so now the Chiefs have a two-seeded bye week, which increases your chances of winning the Super Bowl by like nearly 50%, okay? Then, then, that Titans team goes ahead and beats the Patriots so the Chiefs do not have to play who defensively are built to stop the Chiefs and no one else in the NFL they're specifically built for the Chiefs

that's why Belichick has so many defensive backs we're not getting that that's too much talk okay then they get the Texans who suck and they get the Titans who beat the Ravens, who would have given the Chiefs a lot of trouble. And everything kind of set up perfectly. Even in this game, right? You're down 20 to 10 with about seven minutes left. The Niners have a 96% chance to win this game. And Jimmy G just shits the bed, right?

He falls apart. Now, obviously, the Chiefs made the plays down the end. Pat made some good throws. Third and 15, they called that, I think it was two-jet wasp, or chip wasp, which is what Andy Reid told Peter King the play was. Right, so they hit some plays. But the Niners, I mean, we're seven minutes away from,

and we're like two first downs away from saying, the Niners are a dynasty, right? So I think when you pull back on the dynasty, I know it's fun to talk about after the Super Bowl, but let's see what happens. Pat Mahomes is due a big contract. They're going to have to not sign other guys because of that. And let's just see where it goes.

I think we can enjoy this Super Bowl, enjoy this run without having to talk about is this dynasty or not. All right, fine. That's fair. And you barely slept since the game ended. So I, I understand that you're still feeling that,

that vibe, but I do want to say, you mentioned my homes and the contract. Let's drill into that a little bit. Yeah. Um, I sort of teased it, but now I'll be specific.

He's got one year left on his deal and then there's some sort of an option. Right? So right now he's a tremendous bargain soon. He should be paid more than any other player in the league. You know, every year the best quarterback who's up for a new contract gets paid more than anyone ever has before. And he's worth every single penny. No one would argue that. And I don't touch another man's money. I'm not suggesting that Pat shouldn't get paid as much as he can. But if he does something and I realize these contracts are structured differently, if does something like what steph did and remain a bit of a bargain it's possible that he can keep

more of those great pieces around him and have more longevity and make money in other ways by being unquestionably the best quarterback of an era so is there something to consider there would he think about figuring a way to structure his contract to keep more pieces around him instead of taking max money? Well, would he consider it? I think he should consider it. Now, whether or not he does it, I mean, it becomes a question of whether the agent's comfortable with this or not. And look, there are guys that I know personally that have taken less money to stay where they're at, not because of any reason for team building, but just because they just want to stay where they're at

and they understand that maybe taking a little bit less keeps them happy. Now, Pat obviously will stay in Kansas City as long as he wants. This doesn't terribly apply to Pat himself, but there are guys who take less money. So the question was how much less, right? Because he's easily going to get $40 million if he wants per year. Is it $35 million? Is it $33 million? At what point does that become too cheap for Pat?

And then obviously the Chiefs have to reinvest that. The Patriots, by the way, have done this with Tom Brady, and they really have never really reinvested it in the offense like they thought they would or should. And I'm not saying the Chiefs will do that, but there is some concern that if you take less money, are you really helping the Chiefs will do that, but there is some concern that if you take less money, are you really helping the Chiefs? Also, I guess what's the number, Gabe?

Is it $4 million less? $7 million? How many million less would help the Chiefs? Well, I don't mean to extend this analogy with the Warriors too much, but the amount that allows you to get the Andre Iguodalas of your sport, the amount that a couple years later when you shift some cap money around and reassess things and maybe pick the right players in the draft allows you to go get the Kevin Durant of the NFL. So like, you know, I looked up and down this roster. The only guys who I know are critical who have a 30 or a 3 in front of their age are your brother who just hit 30 and travis kelsey who just hit 30 so basically everyone else that i see is still under 30 which means they're still due to get paid at some point well right i mean um

correct so you kind of need a few bucks lying around every offseason to keep those guys happy. You know, obviously you shed a few guys here and there. Maybe you find out that Nicole Hardman can play the position that Terry Kill's playing. Maybe. I don't know. But that doesn't always happen. Yeah. So, but there are, like Chris Jones, for example.

Chris Jones, the defense tackle, was a monster in this game against the 49ers. And he's due a contract. So do you franchise him? Do you pay him? What do you do? And then you're going to end up having, like, let's say you pay Frank Clark. You're going to then have Chris Jones. Frank Clark's going to be paid.

Chris Jones is going to be paid. My brother, the right guard, the left tackle, the quarterback, two wide receivers, Travis Kelsey, Teron Matthew, one of their middle linebackers makes a lot of money. I mean, you're just getting up to a lot of big contracts. You're going to have to shed some of those contracts or not sign Chris Jones. And then you're just going to be less talented. Now, you can draft well and you can develop players to fill those roles. But we've seen throughout the years that's really hard to do. Outside of Tom Brady, again, the Patriots are a terrible example to use

because they're the outlier. No one has built like them. No one has done this for as long as they have. And maybe the Chiefs are the new Patriots. Maybe they're the team of the 20s. We've seen the Steelers in the 70s, the Niners are the 80s, the Cowboys are the 90s. And maybe this is the new dynasty.

But in this salary cap league, when guys are making so much money, it's been difficult to build your team up in the right way. Guys get older, like you mentioned. Guys get hurt. It's a physical sport. Things don't break your way here and there. Now, should you expect 10 wins minimum every year? Of course you should.

Because with Pat Mahomes, anything is possible. But you need everything to fall in place to win a Super Bowl. And if they're missing Chris Jones in this playoff run, they're probably not winning the Super Bowl. I mean, it's that simple, right? I mean, he forced a turnover. He made some other big plays. He knocked the ball down.

That was a first down. If he's not on your team, you're just a different team. You're not as good. And they can't afford to probably pay all those guys. They're going to have to shed. I mean, Sammy Watkins, for example. And they can't afford to probably pay all those guys. You have to shed. So I mean, Sammy Watkins, for example,

people are saying they're going to shed Sammy Watkins. Well, he had a huge catch in both the last two playoff games that helped them win the game at the end. So now you're dead. Now you're down a wide receiver. You have to find yourself another Sammy Watkins. McCall Hardman's not that guy.

So again, it's kind of my point. There's a couple of players. You see Chris Jones and you see Watkins and yes, you can replace them. As long as you have Pat Mahomes, you're always going to be in contention, but you're probably not going to be as talented if you give Pat 40 to 45 million a year. Yeah. Well, that's what we're getting at. I mean, and I'd love for the guy to make as much money as he possibly can. But if it means something to him to have something like the run that Tom Brady had for the last two

decades if he'd like the next two decades to be his he'll have to consider that and you know that's his choice to make he could win Super Bowls making the most money in history that that's possible too but there's some strategy to this and he's a part of it all right let's move along to some people who are griping um you can't have a Super Bowl without people being upset so I've scored three things that people are annoyed about. I don't know which of these you'll want to dig into. Obviously, a lot of people are throwing shade at the refs. If you go on Twitter, and I know you have,

there's a lot of people screen grabbing what they think is the moment where some penalty was committed. They've circled it with a little yellow arrow or something, and then they've tweeted it to the world to complain about how they were wrong. I've seen that with, uh, there was a catch with, uh,

Kittle. There's some holds that people are imagining. There's plenty of things you can analyze and say the ref screwed up. Then of course, there's people like my guy, Steven A, who are claiming that Kyle Shanahan blew the game. He ruined the game for the Niners.

Forget that he got them there. He blew the game. And then the weirdest contingent of people are the people who are upset that Mahomes got the MVP. They think that Damian Williams should have had it. So even on a good day, people find something to complain about. Which of those three is the most misguided take right now? Well, the Pat Mahomes MVP, I mean, dude, he was the MVP for the whole playoffs. I mean, I think there's some sort of award for the whole playoffs.

If he had not, by the way, if the Niners had won, the MVP was Nick Bosa. Nick Bosa played. Really? Oh, dude. Nick Bosa was amazing. He had double-digit pressures in this game. He was unreal.

He, yes. Not on the right side. Not where old Mitch Schwartz was holding things down. Mitch Schwartz, the highest graded player in all the playoffs by pro football focus. I just hope we don't forget when Nick Bosa was fabulous in this game. All right. So the penalty stuff is interesting because the refs just decided not to call anything, which kind of made the Kittle OPI worse because they didn't call anything all game.

And then all of a sudden they call a questionable OPI. In my opinion, I feel like that was just kind of normal guys pushing around each other. And so I'm not quite sure that that should have been called the one that everyone's complaining about, which was a holding with, um, with, uh, Fisher was, um, not a holding by the way, everyone. Okay, I explain this, I feel, very often and people don't understand. Holding is not where your hands are, okay? It's the act of restricting the defender from going in the direction they want to go in forcefully, right? So Bosa beat Eric inside. Fisher then won with his feet.

He ran his feet. Bosa never stopped, never turned the corner, not a holding. So I think the holding stuff and the penalties, I, of course, want to talk about that. And also the halftime show. Grow up, people. Come on. Like, this is, it's 2020 now. Stop complaining about two seconds of ass-shaking on television.

Like, it's everywhere. Like, let's stop complaining about it, all right? Do you like the halftime show? Yeah, I did. All right. Stop complaining about that, okay? I see people getting on Twitter, opining about the halftime show. Grow up, okay? Some of the people, by the way, who complained about the non-football-related things

around this game were going to complain about something no matter what. Yeah, of course they were. And they're the usual people that complain about something but allow other people to do the same thing. Okay, so the one thing about Shanahan. Okay, so I think it's rightful to question Shanahan to end the first half. I'm in the stands.

It was a lot of fun. About 3.30 left in the end of the second, the first half. The Chiefs call a screen on third down. They don't get it. And then the Niners just let the clock run. Shocking. They get the ball back. They punt the ball.

They run the ball twice. After the first run, the game's 10-10. Plenty of time. About two minutes left to go down the field and get points. After the first play, no one calls timeouts. The second run play, the Chiefs call timeouts. The Niners are forced to throw the ball in third or five. They hit the running back out of

the back foot against zero pressure. He gets a big gain. Very next play was the Kittle OPI. So in two plays, if they don't call the OPI, you're down inside the 20, but you don't have 13 seconds. Shan answered after the game, he wasn't aggressive. He was afraid to give the ball back to Mahomes.

Sure, but that to me is a lack of faith in Jimmy Garoppolo, because you just needed one first down to not give the ball back to Mahomes. One first down. It was like you needed to get four of them you just needed one first down to not give the ball back to Mahomes. One first down. It was like you needed to get four of them.

You need one first down and the clock, you would have the opportunity to either run the clock out or then continue on the drive. And he didn't do it. Played way too conservatively. In my mind, it's a Super Bowl. I hope you learn from this. You got to go for it. You got to go for it.

You got to score points. I thought on some from this. You got to go for it. You got to go for it. You got to score points. I thought on some of the fourth downs he was waiting to serve. I did not think, Gabe, entering this game, that Andy Reid would come out as the more aggressive coach than Kyle Shanahan, but Andy was aggressive. Obviously, I think with Pat Mahomes, you feel great about being aggressive. I mean, it's awesome to have that confidence.

And then down the stretch, people complained about play calling. Guys were open. Jimmy G missed them. He missed Kittle on a follow route. Guy was wide open for a first down. Chris Jones knocks the ball down. Not Shanahan's fault. Sanders is open on third and 10.

Jimmy G overthrew him. So it's not really Shanahan's fault. You want to blame Shanahan. End of the first half, go ahead. Not being aggressive. I feel bad for the guy. He was in the Super Bowl. He had a 99% win probably in the fourth quarter and lost.

And another Super Bowl, he had 96% in the fourth quarter and lost. That's a rough go of it. Yeah, I tweeted about that. I don't think I know enough about statistics, but I feel like if something's happened two times in roughly 50 attempts, then it can't be called a 99% chance mathematically. Well, that was before it ever happened. No one had ever come back from that lead in the Super Bowl ever.

Yeah. Okay. But I'm just, I think maybe those stats are fun to look at and they make for a great story after, but there isn't enough data to claim there's any percentage chance that something will or won't happen when we've only even looked at about 50 games. If you want to look at all football games ever, all right, fine, I suppose. But in the Super Bowl, things are different, and I just felt like that's just one of those funny things people like to mention.

It doesn't really mean very much. Either way, you're saying Shanahan is not to blame, and basically Niners fans should come back into next year confident that they're the best team in the NFC they like you just said there are a couple plays away or a few lucky breaks away from being the team we're talking about a dynasty with they've got young players they've got a quarterback they've got a great coach like they've got all the same stuff so you would say that you know nothing to worry about don't like people can get upset and yell about the coach for 24 hours and then get over it. Yes.

And this is going to be a hard pill to swallow, I think, for the Niners, man. They were right there, guys. They played the game they wanted to play. They pressured Pat Mahomes. He made mistakes. I saw Eric Mangini getting crushed this morning because he said that Jimmy G played better

than Mahomes for three quarters. He did. No, he didn't play better in the fourth quarter, but Jimmy G was great until he threw a pick interception, but Pat threw two bad interceptions. He threw a really bad one. I was shocked to see him do that. So the Irish had played the game they wanted. They weren't allowing any deep passes until the Tyreek Hill play.

They were going, it was like third and eight. I remember seeing their defensive backs just backpedaled all the way like 10 yards back. And we're not going to allow them to get beat deep. Obviously on third and 15, they did a great call by the Chiefs and great adjustment to do that. So it was an Irish game to win and they didn't do it. Chiefs made more plays.

Yeah. I mean, I remember just time moves differently with Patrick Mahomes as your quarterback and you can move the ball, you know, in seconds, you can move the ball down the field. All playoffs, you realize like there were so many short scoring drives, so many drives where he moved so many yards without a whole lot of plays. So I remember looking up at it like seven and change minutes when it should have been over with a team like the Niners and just going, I don't know, man, seven plus minutes from a Holmes.

Like I, I feel like this one's going another direction. And I mean, like I barely made a prediction, but that's sure enough exactly what happened. I think it, you have to coach differently against a guy like that. Right. I mean, which is why he needed to be aggressive on fourth down. Yeah. Yeah.

You said it. Okay. Well, let's, let's sort of stay my Holmes and chiefs adjacent here but spin forward to uh the the league next year so last i checked the chiefs were the super bowl favorites for next year um see previous conversation about dynasty um but interestingly so then and the niners by the way are sort of the second favorites alongside the ravens um i i guess though if you look at these Vegas odds, people assume that Tom Brady is coming back to New England because there's the Patriots just below them. So I want to know, like, when he's done doing Hulu ads all offseason

and teasing us with his, you know, hit tweets, is he coming back to New England, part one? And two, keep this in mind, Adam Schefter on Super Bowl Sunday, weirdly enough, I don't know why this was a topic right before the game but Schefter reports that the Raiders are supposedly making a play for Brady which I will remind you is just what our buddy Dana White uh teased at that UFC fight and I brought up on this show and you laughed at me for I think Dana White basically said that he's coming he's a little different than okay well it's just you know my guy my my guy Dana White

is starting to come up with some really good scoops. All right? That's all I'm saying. Point is, Schefter's reporting it, which makes it a little bit more real. The Raiders are interested in Brady. That wouldn't be out there

unless there was some sort of mutual interest or a reason these two people would be talking. So does it make you a little bit worried that maybe, maybe Tom Brady ends up in the division

and maybe the Chiefs are facing Tom Brady twice a year. No, because again, I'm not going to change my opinion on this. If Tom Brady wants to win Super Bowls moving forward, which I don't know why he wouldn't. He's got a lot of them. Maybe he's tired of that.

Then he is going to stay in New England. He's not going anywhere else. If he wants to just go for the money, go for the money. Go play for the Raiders. Go do anywhere else. But if you are trying to win a Super Bowl, he's staying in New England. 100%. Did you read into any of that cryptic photo before the game?

Did you think that was all just part of that Hulu ad? Was that just to get people talking? It clearly is now, but I didn't know what to think about it before that. Yeah. I actually didn't even comment on it because I wasn't exactly sure.

But yeah, now obviously it was the Hulu ad. I don't think Tom's made his mind up at all yet. I think he's going to need to talk to the Patriots and see what their plans are for a free agency. All right. So basically what you're saying is if he stays in New England and they keep basically the exact same core together

and maybe they even find a piece or two to add on offense. They'll have to bring some pieces in. Okay. So they find a tight end, let's say, or they find something on Tom Brady's say where they find some something on tom brady's wish list it was supposed to be antonio brown that obviously didn't work out they find some piece are the patriots the scariest team for the chiefs in a repeat search or are the ravens scarier patriots patriots with brady are scarier the patriots are are built are built to um they're built to play the chiefs the way their defense is set up

interesting and and just i think you've you've sort of given us this throughout the season but now that we have a full year to look back on going ahead would that still be the case that defense is is built to stop the chiefs the The Patriots have to – there's some free agents they have to deal with on their own team and figure out that. But in general, yeah, I mean the way they're built, the man coverage and the safeties they can use, yes. They're better situated to play the Chiefs instead of anyone else's. All right, so before we go to move the line or a little betting game

we like to play at the end of each show, I will just ask you for the first and least informed prediction you can give me for next year. I'll ask for the championship games, not the whole playoffs and not the Super Bowl champion. Who are we seeing in the AFC and NFC championship games? If you had to guess right now today, I think we're seeing New England and Kansas City next year in the NFC Championship game. The NFC Championship game, let me see here. God, the NFC is so good. I'm going to go back to the well what I thought this year.

I'm going to go with Dallas. You know what? No, I'm going to take that. I'm going to go with the Eagles. Eagles against... Let's go Eagles and any other teams. By the way, in case people are wondering if we prep this show in advance, here's your answer.

Eagles-Saints. Okay, Eagles-Saints. I'll hold you to that, and that's going to be a good segue to some of the things I want to talk about in moving the line. We're going to get to Drew Brees, a pivotal part of that Saints prediction in a minute. First, though, you know, we talked a lot about the Niners in relationship to losing to the Chiefs, but we do like that team. You were praising them most of the year. So how many wins next season for the Niners? Over, under, 11 and a half? I feel it's high. I'd go under. We've seen a big drop in the NFC champion from year you know year year over year after

Super Bowl and so I go under just it's a high total it feels like under is I would you I would think that that's the that's the route to go in this yeah correction to the mean right it just feels like everything clicked for him this year they will be a good team next year they probably make the playoffs but you can't really expect them to win 12, 13, 14 games every year. All right. I want to – each one of these I want an answer for. Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, and Big Ben starts next season 0.5 over under. Give me each one.

Oh, each single player. Drew Brees. Brees is over. Yeah, Brees will play again. So he's coming back and playing. Yeah. Rivers. You're sure about that?

Yeah. Because that seems like the rumor the last few days is maybe not. Yes. Okay. And then I would say that Rivers under. No one will sign him. No one signs Phillip Rivers. You don't think somebody gets desperate and wants a veteran? and mobile quarterback like i don't know so some random player i'm not

going to throw names around with what i'm about to predict some guy tears an acl you know hunting this off season and all of a sudden they got two months to get ready for the year nobody signs philip rivers to be their quarterback? I don't think so. Wow. So he just has to retire? That's it? That's the end of Philip Rivers? Maybe, but who's going to sign him? I don't know.

The XFL could be a place. Take Connor Cook's job. I just think that I can't imagine that. Maybe I'm crazy. I can't imagine it. I don't think it's going to happen. I think there's a few teams out there. I may or may not root for one of them that would be happy to give phil rivers a shot you want immobile philip rivers i'm just saying jets

not probably not but i'm you asked me that a year or two ago and my answer is a definitive yes sam darnold is fine okay you need to embrace your USC brethren. Fine. By the way, little anecdote here. If you were like me and you were clicking around, looking for more content on Super Bowl Sunday, I moved over to ESPN2 during the post-game show. So I was watching Van Pelt on ESPN. He does a great job.

He had a couple really fabulous moments. Scott is the absolute best in post-game. Big Red got on there. Big Red got on there by accident. It was awesome. Anyway, Scotty did a great job uh in a break i moved over to espn2 just to see like what is there more out there could i be watching press conferences what is there and they had a um cornhole tournament going on i assume it was taped and it was daniel jones against sam darnold each paired with like a professional cornhole player. Yeah.

Sam Darnold lights out cornhole player. Reassuring. Like that dude has hung out on frat row. That I'm sure of. I'm not sure if he can read a defense, but he absolutely can put a beanbag in a hole. It was really impressive. He, yeah, it's impressive.

He got mono, remember. Oh, oh stop so sick of hearing about that all right the last quarterback of of the era that we you didn't give me an over under yet on big ben starts next year over under over he'll be starting week one you think he'll start and stay healthy and be the steelers are back next year we look talking about them in the playoffs um i oh the ravens are gonna be good again i think it'll be close i think the steelers will be it'll be a wild card division winner next year yeah the defense is really good okay i can't get through a show without mentioning this team better or worse than the browns better i'm selling all my until baker mayfield actually changes and doesn't rest

like a hobo and doesn't go into, I'm not buying him. Okay. I'm going to skip this next one. We already talked about Tom Brady. And every time I bring up Brady, it kills the happy vibe you have coming back from Miami. So I'll spare you. We'll go back to Miami in your mind. Miles walked by Jeff in the rain to a barstool party this past weekend,

over under two and a half miles in the rain. Okay. So for those who don't um i got invited by me everyone's the barstool party they did a rough and rowdy first and it was at a big tent okay tent was covered it was fine um but um it was raining and it did not stop raining the whole time so we get there with my wife. And we didn't have much to do Friday night. And I was like, look, look. It's a barstool party. I wanted to see someone there that I hadn't met before. And I wanted to say hi.

And I was like, look, let's just go there. We show up. Starts raining. And I'm like, you know, all right, let's just go inside and see. So we get inside. And I'm going to find exactly how many miles we walked from, from there. So then, and it was bad. It was just crowded. It was packed and it just wasn't, it wasn't fun. So I'm like, okay, babe, let's go. So we, we try to call an Uber and the traffic was just so bad. There were no Ubers willing to get us anywhere. So we're like, look,

so, and we actually thought we could grab an Uber. so we had we had run out already to go grab an uber in the rain it got soaked so my wife was like look let's just make let's just go like let's just walk in the rain and see what happens and go find an uber so i mean when i say uh torrential downpour i mean torrential downpour. It was really, really bad. Like biblical rain. I saw some pictures. It was lightning, flooding

everywhere. It was really bad. Okay, and yet you leave a perfectly good party. No, the party was also... Oh, a crab party? It was not the greatest party I had been to. All right, fair enough. So, I mean, Pitbull's not there, so you're not having as good a time. So, we ended up walking roughly a half mile in a downpour, soaking wet.

We found a parking garage. And in the parking garage, we called the Uber. And the Uber came. We then took off our – I took off my shirt and my shoes and socks. I know. We then took off our, I took off my shirt and my shoes and socks. I know. My wife took off her pants. Whoa.

And we sat in the Uber. The guy was totally chill about it and went home, and everyone got caught in the rain. It wasn't just us. It was everybody, and it was, man, it was a lot, a lot of rain, a lot, a lot of rain. What made the Uber driver more uncomfortable? Your exposed feet or your wife wearing no pants?

I feel like that. I don't think he even, it was so dark. I don't think he even realized that we had, well, he realized my shirt was off, but I only realized her pants were off. And then I walked through the hotel, the Chiefs team hotel, like 2 a.m. with my shirt off because I didn't want to put it back on.

It was too wet. So I went to bed and i'm look i don't drink i'm not like a i'm not a big party guy i went to bed at like two and three and four three straight nights well that's a great segue to my last topic um hours you will sleep tonight your first night back in your own bed, 12.5 hours. I wish, man. I got to do my radio show tonight. So probably about eight as usual. Eight square. That's it. I'll go to bed about 1030 and wake up at 630.

Okay. That's a normal adult, you know, bedtime and wake up. Yeah. All right. It was a long weekend. It was a lot of fun, dude. I'm very happy for my brother. I was a long weekend. It was a lot of fun, dude. I'm very happy for my brother. I'm proud of him.

He played great. The team. It was a lot of fun to see friends and family that I hadn't seen in a while and also reconnect with some of the Chiefs staff and play with. I really liked my time there as well. But really, dude, the Chiefs fans, man, they deserve this. They're great fans. They're passionate.

And I'm happy they could get it done for, for them. Well, it was cool to live it through you. And, you know, you've been giving us great insight into the Chiefs and basically every other team in the league all season long.

So this has been a real joy. I'm glad that the season ended the way it did for the listeners of this show. I feel like they knew a lot about this team and, and they got to enjoy it with you as well. So we're not going away. This show is going to continue on in the off season. The exact cadence and days we'll keep people updated on Twitter. Don't worry, though. There's plenty more to talk about in the off season. We got draft. We got combine. We got a million things that you're

going to make us smarter on. So, Jeff, I'm still having fun doing this with you and we'll keep doing more of it. You can sign us off for today. but again, buddy, congrats to you, to the fam, to the whole team. Thank you. Yes. As you can hear my voice taking the brunt of a lot of this as well. It's a lot of fun to be in Miami. My first time in Miami too. So weather was fabulous. It was a ton of fun. All right, guys. Hope you enjoyed this episode. I'll be back on Thursday. Take care of everyone. My voice will hopefully have improved and my sleep will as well. Hope you guys enjoy the episode. And we'll be back later in the week.