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Episode Date: February 10, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Monday, February 9th. I'm Jeff Schwartz. That is Gabe Goodwin. Jeff Schwartz is smarter than you. Then by drafting, draftings crown is yours. Gabe, we have reached the end of a national football league season.
Starting point is 00:00:19 The Seattle Seahawks being in the England Patriots, 29 to 13. You get a reprieve for the Patriots winning a championship. I have to talk about Sam Darno being a Super Bowl champion. So that's where we sit right now after a Super Bowl that, It wasn't the best, but we have a champion,
Starting point is 00:00:38 and we have a controversy with a halftime show, and we've got to talk about Gabe. Where do you want to start, sir? Well, I think as a sports fan, you know, you're always rooting for a good game. The next best thing is, you know, a blowout by your team. And then right there with that is the team you hate getting their doors blown off and never, not for one second looking like they had a chance.
Starting point is 00:01:01 At no point did the Patriots look like they were in that game. And now they have more Super Bowl losses than any other franchise. Jeff, why do they suck so much? I, so what I said most of the week was when people tried to find parallels to New England, they brought up two teams, right? The 2001 Patriots, because Tom Brady's first Super Bowl, and Drake Me comparing those two things.
Starting point is 00:01:34 And the 99 Rams, who had a schedule, worse than New England, but won the Super Bowl. The difference that is all week was the Rams have, I think, four Hall of Famers on that offense, maybe five, and then, like, London Fletcher, linebacker, who's the finalist in a given Hall of Fame season, and the Patriots, Tom Brady, and Thai Law and Richard Seymour, and Vrable and Teddy Bruske, like, they're not the same teams, right?
Starting point is 00:02:03 New England has Drake May, who's going to be really good in my opinion, The two defense tackles, and one of them's name wasn't called at all, Baramore, who was against Seattle's left guard yesterday. And then they have Christian Gonzalez who played out of his mind. That's it, four guys. And those guys are like, you know, Christian Gonzalez is elite, and the detackles are fine, but Drakeman is not elite yet. And so they're just not as good, Gabe, right?
Starting point is 00:02:25 And this is why, you know, very rarely do you sort of nail a game like this? I was wrong last year. I was very right this year. So 2413, I thought that Seattle would struggle mightily in this game. to me, New England would, to move the football. That's exactly what happened. And none of this surprised me. So I, are they going to make it back?
Starting point is 00:02:50 I don't know, man. But in this moment, I felt very vindicated for all my Patriots takes. Everything you told me leading into this game is about how it played out. Things that you could not have predicted, a couple time savers here. At no point in this postseason run, did the Seahawks give the ball? away. Just unbelievable for tech. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I mean, the ball wasn't on the ground even yesterday. Donald did throw like some pretty questionable passes. He wasn't great yesterday. But yes, they took care of the ball. And they're going on special teams. They were greatest special teams yesterday. All right. So let's go there.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And then I think I want to spend real time on Mike McDonald. But let's go to special teams. I've been very clear on this show. I've been very clear to you and on Twitter for years now. I would prefer that we just cancel kickers. I don't want to spend time. I'm talking about whether or not a punter should have been an MVP. People were trying to do that at my party.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I don't like special teams. I like football. But Jeff, what, like, it does matter. I mean, truly, like second best special teams unit in the NFL, then they end up winning because of special teams. Punts inside the six all day, long field goals. What, like, how does a football team feel when special teams kind of carries them? Well, here's why, you know, I think people,
Starting point is 00:04:07 there's not much to say about it, right? I mean, I'm not breaking out special teams tape, but I will tell you, the punts are not demoralizing, but they're important to the discussion about the game, right? You know, New England's trying to come back in the game, right? Their defense would play fine. They didn't stop to run terribly well, but generally speaking, it was fine, right?
Starting point is 00:04:29 And there were certain times where you forced a three-and-out. You did a great job. and the punter murders the ball down the field and the good job that you did you know gets negated with a really, really good punt and now you think that if you shank one, you have a bad punt all of a sudden, you know, you get a shorter field,
Starting point is 00:04:53 you get a punt return even, you start feeling good about yourself and it just never happened because Seattle kept putting the ball where it had to be, right? So like you example, so you get, you know, it's six nothing, Seattle, okay? You force a punt. There's
Starting point is 00:05:09 four minutes left in the first half. You think, okay, the ball is at the Seattle, or was that, excuse me, the New England, 42, right? So let's get a touchback. Let's get the ball at the 20 yard line. Let's get some yards. It's get a field goal. No, balls out with the two. It's pretty rough, right, Gabe? Like, you're not going to score many times in this game with a ball to two yard line. It's little moments like that throughout the game that really helped Seattle just keep the clamps on New England.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah. So the Seattle D gets most of the talk today, right? And then that naturally leads to a bunch of interesting, cool stats about Mike McDonald, first guy to be a DC who leads of, you know, the best defensive unit in football. First head coach defensive play caller, yes. Head coach defensive play caller to lead the best defensive unit in the league and win a Super Bowl. He's done it as a DC.
Starting point is 00:06:05 So what, like, talk to me X and O's here, nerd out for a little. He seems like he's got a cool personnel. He seems like he's a good leader. He's young. He's cool. Whatever. What's he doing schematically or what's, how is he using personnel? Why is this defense? Which most of us didn't pay much attention to
Starting point is 00:06:22 for the first half of the year. Why did they come on so strong here when it mattered? Well, to start with, they have very good football players. Yes. You guys were good. That helps a lot. lot, right? That helps a lot. And they have done an incredible job of drafting, right? I mean, that's, look, when you're able to draft the way they have, I'm going to pull up the tweet, right? So we got it at the end of the rundown here. It's incredible how many they've hit on day one.
Starting point is 00:06:51 We could put it up here if you would like. So you look at, not even, you look at even more than that. We're looking at like in 2025, Rick Woolen, Bryant, a Lucas, all third or fourth, fifth round picks, then Walker, then Cross. then the next year, Hall and JSN and Withersman, by the way, very quickly, NFL honors, can we get people to pronounce the names correctly? One was a mistake and one was a joke. Like, it's, I get it. We want to be, you know, LOL, want comedians to be there. It's a big moment for these individuals.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Can we get their names right? Like, Rable's not a hard name to say. JSN, it's not a hard name to say. Am I wrong, Gabe on that? Like, can we get someone to say? their name's right. You mean, you don't think that we should just turn all of society over to a few influencers who have been deemed popular that Drusky making bits out of this guy's
Starting point is 00:07:43 whole career is... And I know, like, the Vable thing was an accident, Tiffany has to say it wrong. Drusky's who we're talking about. Drusky was the one who... We know how to say his name. Why can't he learn how to say JSN's name? And like, and I like Drusky. His kids are funny, man.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Like, the church get the other day, like, they're funny. But, like, there's a time to be funny a time to be serious. and this kid just had a great season with offensive player of the year and you make some dumb joke about it. Like, I just, I didn't love it. So, JASN, Witherspoon, who played great yesterday, the next year, Byron Murphy, then Zabel
Starting point is 00:08:16 and in and Iminiori, who was incredible all season. It doesn't include, by the way, like, a seventh round center that they have or undrafted center where they're playing right now. Like, just, Stiner did a great, they chose, the ownership there, chose the GM over the coach,
Starting point is 00:08:31 right, that's what he chose. And the GM proved, so they have good football players. On top of that, they're just pretty multiple, Gabe, right? Like, they play zone. They play more men than I thought they would. They brought pressures from different places. They broke tendencies. Like, we're just running pressure six times.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I think I heard he'd only pressure, you know, 15 to 18 times all season. He came six times in this game. They do a lot of disguising. So when, when offense is motion guys across, okay, it's for a couple of years. One is to maybe change the formation. should just get different at look, but also tells you man or zone, right? The motion of a guy across,
Starting point is 00:09:06 a guy follows with him, it's off in man coverage, right? So there was a play on the strip sack last night where they motioned a guy cross, Seattle follows, and then play zone. And Sam Donald was like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:19 the May was like, oh, shit, the first guy's sack. Like, they were doing those things. And May just never felt comfortable in the entire game. I think his shoulder is hurt,
Starting point is 00:09:28 Gabe. And, you know, the way he looked in the locker before the game. The way, it just uncomfortable. It just fell uncomfortable. He just didn't seem like he was really, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:37 completely confident in the entire offensive structure. And they got out-coached. I mean, McDaniels got, no plan for pressure whatsoever. Like, just no pressure, no plans. No plan for it. So credit Seattle, man, great job. But they just out-you know, they just out-coach the Patriots. It was really good.
Starting point is 00:09:57 All right, wait a second. So I don't, you're smarter than, most people, Jeff, especially with football. I'm not falling for the propaganda. This happens all the time. As soon as the game's over, reports are he was getting a shot in his shoulder and he was more hurt than we realized
Starting point is 00:10:13 and he wasn't on the injury list, but that's because they were trying to not show their hand. Like, I'm calling BS. I don't think we ever hear that if he plays well. We probably do, but it's probably brought up a little differently. I mean, look, there were throws that, like, he made all season that he just didn't make in this game.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And you could go, you know, sight pressure, slight nerves, just uncomfortable, all those things. But, like, if you were to say he wasn't 100%, I could buy it with some of the throws he made in this game. But they weren't winning with a healthy drinkmate either. It wouldn't have mattered. It doesn't seem like it would have. So, okay, let's talk about the GM for a second more,
Starting point is 00:10:58 though. You mentioned Schneider. So another interesting stat here. I believe he is the first NFL GM in history to win Super Bowls with the same franchise, but different coaches and a completely different roster. In other words, no continuity. He just built two championship teams
Starting point is 00:11:15 in two different eras for the team, right? So he does it with Pete and a whole bunch of players. No? I mean, you're questioning the stat or you're saying that doesn't matter? You wouldn't count, I guess, Tom Brady counts for the whole Patriots dynasty, but they had a basically a whole new team 10 years later to win a championship.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Except for the quarterback. The point is the GM re-architected two completely different teams. All they have in common is the jersey. Yeah, no, you're right. New players. Snyder's doing something right, and he's drafted well. He drafted well back in the Legion of Boone.
Starting point is 00:11:50 That sounds about right, because you think about all the teams that won in a given time period, they're kind of sort of dynasties. They sort of win with the same teams. one would be, I guess Philly Championship 1 and 2, Lane Johnson. That's like it, I think?
Starting point is 00:12:08 There's not many there, I think. Okay, so good job by them too. The point I'm making really is like, you know, it takes a second try. I think Cooper Cup is getting a lot of like, ooh, is Cooper Cup a Hall of Famer? We're talking about special teams. We're talking about, wow, Kenneth Walker really was
Starting point is 00:12:24 quite a steal. He was kind of discounted for a while. They were sharing the ball with Charbonnet. He's the Super Bowl MVP. It seems like when a team like Seattle wins. I actually think Walker, I think Charmody being out helped Walker a lot of this game. No, it seemed for sure the whole postseason. But I guess what I'm getting it is,
Starting point is 00:12:41 do we rewrite the narratives after we see such success and then start to have a greater appreciation? A guy like John Schneider really did build the best team on the West Coast, and now they've won multiple Super Bowls. I mean, if you have an appreciation for it, you know, you're just not good. You're maybe not football fan? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I don't know what... I do think that where they play plays a role in this because they're in Seattle. Keep going. What do you mean by that? Well, I mean, they're a West Coast football team in the Pacific Northwest. Like, it's just not going to be a national brand. If this was happening with Pittsburgh or Green Bay or shoot the Patriots, it'd be a different story. But I think because they're tucked away the Pacific Northwest.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And I think a lot of people, including myself, for a long time this year, thought the Rams were better. I think that's partly why it plays into now that now that they won you do get that full picture of how good he has done because look even even like the quarterback donor was not good yesterday gave and to win a Super Bowl that convincingly without a good quarterback or without a quarterback playing well is impressive because the roster is the way it is they didn't need a quarterback to do very much yesterday I mean his best throw was a schemed up corner throw to Barner that was like you know I mean we could have made that throw. Thank you for including me in that. I agree. I could have made that throw. I don't know about you. Adam Schaefter posted this, and a lot of people were talking about it. The first
Starting point is 00:14:06 QB from the 2018 draft class to win a Super Bowl. So Baker went one overall. Josh Allen was seventh. They get Lamar at the end of the first round. Darnold was number three overall, and he's the guy. None of us would have predicted this a few years ago. He's the guy with the ring first.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So it's 15 already. I don't think anyone thought this. Your boy, Colin, taking a victory lap, and I don't think he even really thought this. I know he's been on Sam Darno for the last five weeks, but I don't think anyone thought this was going to happen. Nobody did.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I didn't think he would turn into this coming out of USC, where I watched him and rooted for him. I bailed on the Jets because of that draft pick. That's when I knew they just had no idea how to run a franchise. I'm happy for San Francisco. who seems like a good guy, but no. I think this is a story that we're starting to talk about more when it comes to quarterback evaluation out of college.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And we're talking about fit, right, Gabe? We've never talked about that. That's what we never talked about, right? You just, you draft a talented guy, and you just, you made sometimes a square peg fit into a circle, right? Or circle fit into a square. And you, you said, okay, you're talented enough to run our scheme.
Starting point is 00:15:26 You're talented enough to do what we want you to do what we're doing. And now it's all about fit, man. The best coaches adapt their scheme to the player, right? The best coaches are able to sort of build around the quarterback and the best way possible, in my opinion, best franchise able to do that. And, you know, Darnold just luck's the wrong word, but he was put in this place and sort of had the pieces around it to be,
Starting point is 00:15:49 to be successful. Now, he needs a lot to go right. Like, if they lose a couple guys, guys get hurt. That's it. You're not going to win at the same rate they did this season. But fit is so important, right? And we're seeing that with Darno. We might see that with other quarterbacks leaving this offseason.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And I'm glad we talk about that more and more because I think it matters. I talked about us a lot when it came to the draft last year like Ashton Genty, right? You draft them six overall. The fit is terrible because the Raiders' offense line stinks. You can't use them properly, right? So fit matters. It's always mattered. 100% mattered.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But we never talked about it. It feels like as openly as we do. do now when it comes to evaluating these players out of the draft? Yeah. Well, they also, this keeps circling back to Schneider when we talk fit. They've also been good with their money, right? So they're heading into next year. I want to kind of spin this forward a little. I believe they have like top five or six in terms of cap space. So they've theoretically got some money to spend. Maybe they have to make some adjustments. Maybe they have to say thank you to a few guys. I don't know exactly whose deals are up when.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But they might be able to keep the core pieces together. The key, you know, we've talked so much about the Mahomes chiefs on this show together over the years. The key to their success was that started with him on a rookie deal. Sam's not on a rookie deal, but he's at a bit of a discount compared to most franchise quarterbacks. So, you know, how do you think they'll manage their money? Do you think they can keep this core unit together? Is this the beginning of a run? Or was this, hey, it all lined up good for them, enjoy it, but not again.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I mean, they have a ton of cap space. Kenneth Walker's probably gone, I would imagine. I don't think they pay him. And they're not big freight and spenders, right? It's not what they've done over the years. So I would imagine that they'll be back in the spot next year. The NFC, though, is much, much tougher than the AFC. Like, look at their division, right?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Look at the, look at the north. Look at the east. I mean, they're probably going to run back most of the same team as this year. If journal, but here's the thing, though, if anything isn't about perfect, around the quarterback, is he going to elevate the team? Let's say they have two or three injuries, right, on the defense. Let's say that, you know, the injury on the, you know, let's say JSN's out for six weeks, right?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Like, is some not going to overcome those things? I don't know, but it's fair to say that I think they'll be in the consideration to win a Super Bowl. I'm not, I'm not betting on it. I mean, well, we've had, we've had, what, one, what, one repeat champion, right? and the chiefs since, what, the early 2000s, right, with the Patriots? Hard to do that. Very hard to do it, except that they did it without too many superstars. It's not like the mouths they have to feed are very hungry mouths.
Starting point is 00:18:33 No, it's a young group, correct. Yeah, and, you know, I'm just going to name two names. You're smarter than me, but two jump out to me as like, yeah, what? Like, that guy ended up there. That guy was awesome. And he's there at a bargain? Lawrence and Williams on the defensive lines. Well, Lawrence is older now.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Okay, but like that's a guy who can, could, or can apparently still play. Leonard Williams, like... The Leonard Williams was a good trade for them. That's a coup. Yeah, it was. The thing about, you know, it's funny because to Marcus Lawrence, when he signed there, he, you know, came out
Starting point is 00:19:05 and said something like the Cowboys don't win championships. And so I just don't want to be there. And everyone mocked him for that. And now he's a Super Bowl champion. So good for him. Big night for you at your Trojans, man. They were like five Trojans that one of the one to, you know, one, what, one, you know, return to touchdown pass on defense,
Starting point is 00:19:23 when quarterback was a trial. I saw a USC Trojan picture there was out there. A lot of progen's on the field. Did you know, Jeff? I was going to save this for you, but this can be, this could be how we wind down the A Block and get to some other news. Did you know that now USC has the most Super Bowl champions of any college team? I did not know.
Starting point is 00:19:41 That's true, more than Oregon has. I mean, can't win a conference championship, but could win a Super Bowl. ball for you guys. We prepare people for their professional careers. That's what college is for, right? I mean, isn't it, isn't it, like, what do you think you'd win more in college football because you have better players?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Well, you know, what you're talking about has to do with coaching. There's a very talented people like to be at USC. They don't necessarily gel while there. Okay. They did for a few years. with a guy who want to ring in Seattle. So, you know, there's a lot of full circle stuff here.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Jeff, anything left on the bone here about the game or the players on the field because I want to switch gears to some other topics, but I don't want to, you know, miss the chance. Actually, I know I have one more thing. Can I ask you about the rookie lineman there, Will Campbell for the pets? He feel like he's getting beat up a lot and guys like you need to come in here and make us a little smarter. Was he getting tooled on all night long or are we getting that wrong? No, no.
Starting point is 00:20:45 It's funny because next 10 stats had 14 pressures. It wasn't that bad. I put a video out at Jeff Schwartz on my Twitter. It's 15 minutes long. It's on my YouTube as well. 15 minutes. Talking about Will Campbell. And, you know, part of it is, I think it's just a technique.
Starting point is 00:21:07 It's just a technique fix. He needs to fix sort of what he's doing with his technique. And there are many plays he has in the game that were fined. And so it's a matter to me of just sort of kind of fine-tuning that a little bit. And if he can fine-tune that and sort of just sort of do what works in his wheelhouse, he'll be much better. I also think he hasn't changed his underpants in years. Should he change his underpants? These are not long as long as good luck underpants.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Is that a thing? Are you sure that guy wears the same underpants every game? He's getting a murder, man. Oh, man, I feel bad for me. A rookie coming off an injury, like, bad. Greg May joins a not-so-great club. Guys who made their first Super Bowl in their second season, none of the others have ever gotten back to a Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:22:01 or have not yet gotten back to a Super Bowl. He's in company with some big names, too. I think I saw that Jaylen Hertz is the last quarterback in, like, the last 20 quarterbacks, to lose their first Super Bowl and get to a second one. And then win it, yeah. Well, you won it, yeah. But I don't think anyone's even gotten to a second one.
Starting point is 00:22:21 No, it can be pretty demoralizing. So Burrow hasn't gone back. It happened a little bit. It happened with Elway, but that's before the last 20, of course. He lost his first and he got back. But for the guys who got there in their second season, Marino and Burrow, Brock Purdy, Drake May now, none of those guys ever got back in one.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So we'll see. You think Drake May, you still like him. He's shown you enough. I think it's unlikely to get back just because that's just what the NFL has been. Yeah. Okay. Well, they're another team where it doesn't seem like they relied upon stars, and they've always built pretty good rosters in New England.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So I don't like saying this, but I could see them starting to become a very serious AFC contender for the next several years. I don't know if Drake May is ever going to sort of close. or the Josh Allen bar, but he's close enough. It's possible. I just think it's hard to do. And betting on someone to not make it as an easier bet, unfortunately. Yeah, that's the way life goes.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Let's take a quick break. Let's come back. There's a couple other pieces of news related to the Super Bowl, and then I want to talk halftime and some other stuff. Let's do it. All right, we're back here, Gabe. A couple more things to cover and some news and notes here. What do we want to get to?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Clint Kubiak, basically right after the game ends. he confirms he is going to be the next Raiders head coach. We should have probably discussed that as having an impact on Seattle next season, but for now, let's talk about it from the Vegas perspective. Well, we could do it now. I mean, this reminds you of Ben Johnson leaving the Lions, right? Okay. It's a big loss.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Kubiak did a great, that touchdown passed, the throwing out to pass. The design that Barner was so good. They kept motioning that tight end across and running the ball right to him, and then motioned him across, faked it. He ran a little corner route. boom, touchdown. It's going to be a loss. It's going to be a loss.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I like, look, I like Mendoza. We talked about this a little bit. I mean, the cornyness worries me, but overall, I think Mendoza's a good football player and he gets Kubiak. It feels like a really good pairing, right? This Shanahan McVeigh offense has just been so popular in the NFL and done such a good job that the Raiders have a lot of improvements to make on their offense personnel-wise, but I like the hire, man.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I think they got a good coach. All right. all due respect to Kubiak, I don't want to talk about the Raiders any further than you just did. I got to talk about this. Maybe this tweet can go up on the screen and I'll read it to you just in case no one can see it. Ian Rappaport, who I like and I got no issue with, but this tweet seems insane to me. Adam Gase has worked with QBs such as Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler, and Sam Darnold, setting records with Manning as OC now set to work with Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I feel like that's not exactly how you should explain Adam Gase's history. I do feel like, if Donald loses, is that in the tweet you think? Even, I mean, it's opportunistic, I guess, to include Sam Darnel-N-N-S, but like, I think it's probably more fair to say of Adam Gase, what Ian has previously tweeted, which is that he hasn't coached in the NFL since he made an absolute disgrace of the jet. He failed in other places. You know, like, Adam Gase, really? Chargers? What are we doing? Justin Herbert doesn't need that, does he?
Starting point is 00:25:56 You're just a quarterback coach, I said? Set to work with Justin Herbert. I don't know what the role is going to be. You just are a Jets Hater. It's okay. But Gase was... I'm a Justin Herbert lover, man. You taught me about him.
Starting point is 00:26:08 He was, he's... Yeah, it seems like a dumb hire, but I trust Mike McDaniel, though, so I think they'll be fine. That's weird that Mike McDaniel wants him around. But all right. The NFL calendar doesn't really take a break. Those of us in the media might like to think of this week as like when you get to
Starting point is 00:26:27 take a breather. The NBA is the focus by the weekend. But the fact is we just keep on churning here. So I just want to know as you look at their horizon and get a few days off from NFL and then we got like free agency and combine. Oh, yeah. And draft obviously. Like what are you looking forward to right now, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:26:45 Look, I just think that, you know, to see. sort of what is, Fraterty D class is not great. So I don't know if we're going to get that much change in like how I think about these teams, but to start studying the draft, the draft prospects, it's sort of a meaty draft, right?
Starting point is 00:27:00 You're not getting a ton of flash at the top of the draft. Are there trades early in the draft? What's a jockeying like? And then look, there are teams that feel close? Are they going to make a move or two? Are they going to be a trade, a free agent move? So that'll kind of catch my time.
Starting point is 00:27:14 But the combine is soon, Gabe, like two weeks away. So we'll start seeing some of those numbers and workouts come out, and that'll be fun to dissect. Do you think there's an quarterback who just vanished from the conversation who's going to show up at the combine, and everyone's going to then talk about? I feel like that happens. Yeah, it's going to be Nussmeyer. Nuss, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Because he was supposed to be the guy, and then the season didn't go there. Suppose he had a good senior bowl, and he's the guy that sounds like that'll be the riser. I'll buy that. What about Beck? You think he's one of those guys? I don't think so. Really? Why is I ever end downing him?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Most only, he's average. He's average, okay. Seems like all he does is win, but okay. I mean, sure, but that doesn't mean anything. I don't mean something to me, but fair enough. Let me ask some, Jeff. We got video, obviously. The guys from the Seahawks are at Disneyland already.
Starting point is 00:28:10 That's always been the thing. There's some video circulating of Sam Darnold and Kenneth Walker riding the teacups together. I did see that, yeah. Cute, yeah, good for them. Jeff, Disneyland, overrated or underrated. I would have done the rockets. Disneyland, as a place. Overrated or unrated.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So can I admit a boogie thing that we do that makes it way more, way more rated? Yeah, you can include the fast pass if you want. No, no, no, buddy. You go boosier's a fast pass? Yeah, you can pay for a private guide. Oh, you do the ballet thing?
Starting point is 00:28:48 You just cut the line. Oh, dude. Yeah. You're that guy? I've done it a couple times, yeah. Whoa, Jeff. Hold on a second. We're getting somewhere.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Let's peel this on you a little bit. You're a very down-to-earth guy. I know you not to be materialistic. Adrian Peterson Osia snowmobile. You've never even asked for it. What? Yeah. We did, I think one day Disney, we did like 21
Starting point is 00:29:18 rides, 22 rides. We got like a mall. We got them all in. We got the new Star Wars ride just opened up. You know, you know, like, when you see those people that like pop in to like, you're about to go on the ride and they just sort of like pop in from the exit? Oh, I know those people. Yeah. Yeah, we did that. We've done it like twice. I hate those people.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Because I'll be honest with you. I try to make my kids feel guilty that we got the fast pass. I'm like, hey. The fast pass system is much harder now, though. You're going to get a certain number of them, right, at a certain time, and you have to, like, time them up correctly. My wife's in charge. I'm not sure how it works, but I know that it costs extra, and I know that we're skipping people online. I won't, I don't want my kids to think that's how life works. Does it make you feel better? Does it make you feel better? I don't fit. I don't fit on. I try my best to squeeze. I love roller coasters. I try my best to squeeze. And I fit on, like, we were at, at, uh, you fit on soren? What's, I haven't been,
Starting point is 00:30:20 which one's, like bring you out, they lift you up. Avatar one? No, it's like a big, like, the R type thing.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Like you're sitting in an is that a new ride? Harnessed and your feet are flying and dangling in the air and they're moving it around. Oh, oh, oh. And the one where you like, you're the three,
Starting point is 00:30:36 it's like a, it feels like you're flying through space. The 4D screen or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I fit on that. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:43 you can fit in that. My wife did not like that. She was, that's a little trippy though. that's a little, that one's a little trippy. Avatar's a little trippy. I didn't,
Starting point is 00:30:51 I didn't do Avatar. My kids did. Yeah, I don't fit on, um, Madowhorn and obviously Spass Mountain, there's no.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And then Thunder Mountain I fit on. Um, and yeah, Space Mountain don't fit on. So, uh, so I think it's properly right if you do that. But,
Starting point is 00:31:13 um, overrated. I, I, I don't think I actually don't think it's overrated. I think it depends what you're there for. If you're there for your kids, that's what you're there for your kids. You're there for a turkey leg, sign me up for that.
Starting point is 00:31:26 The food is very, is not good. The restaurants mostly suck. Don't do, don't do the restaurants. Just eat the park food. Parade's fine. I don't know. I'm not a parade person, I guess, anyways. Fireworks are fun.
Starting point is 00:31:40 If you stay long enough, if it's fireworks, that's cool. What are your thoughts that is? I'm curious what you think. Yeah, I'm not a fan. I don't want to go any further than that. I'm not a fan. My wife loves it. I don't.
Starting point is 00:31:52 So if the kids want to go, that's one less ticket we got to pay for. My parents have been like 50 times. They love Disneyland. Now, they don't go without us. But like, Disney adults are a whole other topic. Okay, the Disney adults, we don't have to get in trouble in this show. But that's, that I have, I don't want to get in trouble. Well, I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:32:13 We can, we don't have to. I'll just say this. this. I just think that like, I pay to cut the line, a lot of money to cut the line. There's other ways to cut the lines that, like, I don't, I don't love those ways to cut the lines. It's not my favorite. Like, why, why? Why do you, like, I don't, like, that feels like a reward for that shouldn't be cutting the line, but nonetheless, that is it. Let's take a break game. I don't want to get in trouble. Well, this next topic could get us in trouble, but I agree. Let's talk Half time after this break.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Let's do it. All right. We're back. Halftime show. Here's a deal. Okay. I didn't understand a word of it, but my daughter loved it. We had a friend over who's 13, 14 now in high school.
Starting point is 00:33:09 She did a project in her Spanish class on Bad Bunny. She had a great time. My wife seemed to enjoy it. The people seemed to enjoy it. There were scantily clad women with good physiques dancing all over the screen. seemed pretty enjoyable to watch. Ricky Martin popped on. Like Gaga popped on.
Starting point is 00:33:29 It was 12 minutes. Seemed like fun. Other people might party didn't like it. I don't... A culture war, O'Souille halftime show, feels like a giant waste of time for everyone in this country.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And I know that there's a certain subset of people that live and die by that culture war, man. But who gives a fuck, dude? Who cares? Like who? It's not everything is for you, right? Like, if you're not selfish in life, you understand like that, like personally for me,
Starting point is 00:34:05 I actually don't mind the music. Like, I don't mind like the music itself. That's not really, I don't listen to bad buddy in the car. Like, that's not for me per se. Well, my daughter loved it. My wife loved it. Our family friend loved it. Like, it's okay to not have every music genre be for you, game at the halftime show.
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's for people that are watching the show. I just, I mean, you want to watch a taped, lip synced show to own the people that want to just watch bad bunny? I don't get it, man. Don't get it. But I don't get the cultural over the halftime show. You want to say anything else? I don't know what you were just referencing and go back to the actual halftime show. Not only do I agree with you for the record, but visually.
Starting point is 00:34:54 If you were at a party where you could barely hear the music, visually, it was incredible. And that guy, Benito, that is a performer, man. To get us the blocking of all of that on those steady cam shots, to always find your camera, to find your mark, to engage with the person, just the cameos, to get all those shots with the wedding part and all of the various dance movies. That was real, real wedding.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah, all of it was real. But just to be climbing up things and jumping, off things and doing all of this without any kind of disruption technically. Just that alone, forget the sound of the music, is incredible. Did you know the trees were people inside the trees? I sure did, and I'm obsessed with that.
Starting point is 00:35:38 My wife cannot stop watching videos of those trees. The memes have been great so far. At the end, he's like, I love America. Like, I just, it's... I just have bucks to give in life and not half time showing one of them, Gabe. It's not. But also, like, by the way, so fine, so whoever the ideal performer is, whoever, the people who are pretending they didn't want to watch this, by the way, the most watched half-time show of all time. So plenty of people liked it. But for whoever's pretending this is objectionable to them, next year's show with your ideal performer will be so much better because nobody wants to, like, look worse. We're heading in a better and better and better and bigger and better. Like, the video, like the sets and the effects and the camera shots and the colors and the
Starting point is 00:36:28 all of it, the texture of that whole thing, if it's somebody boring and mainstream, they will now have to try so much harder to try to clear that bar that Bad Bunny just set. That's a good thing. It's in BLA next year. So I do wonder what they do with artists if it's tied to Los Angeles. They obviously did the Dre and Snoop one already.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I wonder if they go like rock and roll bands, like a West Coast rock and roll band after Bad Bunny. I don't think country music fits at Los Angeles. I don't think that's going to happen. Kendrick Lamar was two years ago. Don't expect to have, like, hip hop be back, right? It does feel like a band of some sort for next year. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We'll go forward to it. There's not that many people on earth who can pull it off. You know, you need to be the type of performer. Let's put it this way. You need to be the type of person who can be the musical act and the host when you go on SNL, which is what Badd Bunny did. Like, to be able to carry, like, a performance and make music people love.
Starting point is 00:37:30 That's hard. Do you think maybe it could be Taylor Swift eventually? I mean, certainly she's the kind of person who could, if she said she wanted to do it, it would be her. I wonder because, you know, people try to do it around albums, right? I think Bad Buddy's an album coming out. So they try to, like, I don't know what Taylor Swift's album schedule is, but that's always seems to be a way to do that.
Starting point is 00:37:50 again, I just have, like, I just, I get on social media and like the people, the, like, I think, I think to myself, like, do you see what you just wrote on the internet? Like, do you, do you ever read that back, I think, to, like, I can't believe I just wrote, like, that thing about the halftime show? Like, and, like, it's like, I'm not watching a Super Bowl anymore. Okay, whatever, whatever you say, we'll see you next year, buddy. You know what gets me that worked up? what what I will call Sandler slander
Starting point is 00:38:23 I do not like what was this about I let me tell you what it's about all right that broadcast inaccurately suggested that Adam Sandler was rooting for the Patriots
Starting point is 00:38:36 because they cut to him and you know he's from the Boston Air he's from New Hampshire got the accent but he's wearing a Super Bowl hat but if he turns to the side you only see the logo for the Patriots
Starting point is 00:38:48 So they sort of assign him Patriots fandom. He's famously a Jets fan. He's not a Patriots fan. And also quite famously this year, a friend of bad bunny. So presumably he's there as his guest to support him. He's not there to root for the Patriots. And yet, that's what's spreading on the internet. So I stood in the way of that.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I got on the record to correct that. Don't slander Sandler. I did see something too that was like I saw a tweet and again this is you know, Sanler talked positive about by by this is this is how Republicans should talk about something they don't like I was like what does that do with anything? Republican, what the hell? What?
Starting point is 00:39:32 I thought that you were talking about. There's like a big there was a tweet about him being a Republican and being like happy to see Bad Bunny. I don't know. I don't care about Adam Sandler's politics. I care about every single thing about Adam Sandler. Except his politics. Who care? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It just was like a weird, like it went viral. That's what I thought you talked about. It's like a giant tweet. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about this notion that he's a Patriots fan. Oh, he's certainly not.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I am just making sure people understand, even though I divorced the Jets, I am proud to say that I know that Adam Sandler is a Jets fan. You'll be back. You'll be back when they're good again. Before we get out of, because I do have to go to 21 daughter
Starting point is 00:40:09 from Swim. I saw your favorite creature at Super Bowl. and Favorite creature Yeah Pete the dog Oh come on And look
Starting point is 00:40:21 I love my dog Foe is my best friend We spend In the entire days together I love my dog I'm actually More on your side After seeing Pete in person
Starting point is 00:40:31 Thank you Peter Here's why So this is Kurt Herbstew's dog No training whatsoever It just ran to wherever it wanted Like it just ran Like he was doing interview
Starting point is 00:40:44 on a serious set, like on a pop-up. It actually was for people, I think. And the dog just, like, was just going wherever they want. He wanted. Like, no, like, no sit-stay, no, you know, like, plots, no, just constant, like, wherever he wanted to go. Now, people, I love, I pet the dog. I like dogs. I was like, hey, buddy, what's up?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Very soft dog. Good-looking dog in person. But I didn't like the lack of discipline, no training whatsoever. Jeff, I don't think there's anything. in the whole world that bothers me more than dogs off leashes. My dog is disrespectful. Okay. In public you mean, right?
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah. Like at Radio Row. Yeah, yeah. Or on the beach or at a park that is not a dog park. Like my dog, it is Radio Row if I brought him, I would just put him in his place and he would stay there the whole time. Obviously, I don't care if a dog is off a leash if it doesn't move.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I'm talking about dogs that roam around where the owner's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. He's friendly. He's friendly. He's friendly. Oh, see, my dog is friendly, but I rather people don't touch them. For their sake, for your sake. For both.
Starting point is 00:41:54 In every public place that you go, there are people who are afraid of dogs or people who don't want to pet your dog or aren't impressed by what it looks like. You have to be respectful of those people. You can't just be like, sorry, he's friendly. Like, you don't get to have that attitude, dog owner. So my dog. the German Shepherd, he gets a little bit nippy every now and then. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And so I try to keep him away from people. He doesn't know. And again, he's bit zero people. So, like, he can, he can't. Like, he can get nippy sometimes. He gets excited. And if, I take, I take the dog with me in the car, draw my kids off in the morning for school.
Starting point is 00:42:32 He loves it. And he's very worked up. He doesn't like when the kids leave the car. He's whining and, and act like an ass sometimes. And people will come up and be like, oh, I'm like, don't touch a dog in the car. like he's going to bite you. Please don't. Like, they don't even ask me.
Starting point is 00:42:47 They come with, I'm like, no, no, no, like, can you ask me to touch a dog, please? Like, don't. I'm worried about him trying to bite you. Like, this is his space. He's pre-gative of his space and you're now putting your hand in my car.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Like, if he bites you, that's your problem. You didn't ask me to put your hand in my car. Please don't do that. He's never done it before. Now, but now you know this about your dog. So if you went to the beach and you were like, go ahead, foe. And then the dog starts,
Starting point is 00:43:13 snipping at a four-year-old. Yeah. The four-year-old's crying. That's on you, man. In South Carolina, I will take him off leash a little bit, plus the thall ball with the beach, but he just recalls right to me.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So it's not ever, can't care of nothing else. You remember that. This summer, when your dog scares some four-year-old, I'm going to tell you, I tried to warn you. But I wouldn't do it with kids around either, though.
Starting point is 00:43:33 So I do it a lot of times, like at dusk when we're getting ready to go to bed, like kids outside. All right. Well, I'm glad you met Peter the dog, who has spent the whole season, on the ban list. That was the first thing we did was ban that dog. I'm glad we ended the football season by talking about it. Um, okay. My wife asked me, my going to pick Emerson up.
Starting point is 00:43:53 It's time. Okay. We'll be back next week. We got to that. We'll figure it out. Take care, everyone. It's a good week.

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