Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Ravens Vs Chiefs Who Needs It More Lions Rise 49ers Fall Chargers Look Legit

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Former NFL lineman Geoff Schwartz and co-host Gabe Goodwin dive into a jam-packed football weekend. They break down the Lions’ offensive explosion, the Ravens’ defensive struggles, and why the Chargers might finally be for real under Jim Harbaugh. Geoff also weighs in on the 49ers’ injury curse, whether Justin Herbert is a true MVP contender, and why betting Jonathan Taylor for MVP is just throwing money away. The guys hit on Chiefs vs. Ravens, the Cowboys’ collapse, and NFL Week 4 betting angles. Plus, they preview a massive college football slate: Oregon vs. Penn State, Bama vs. Georgia, USC’s next four games, and Oklahoma’s surprising rise. As always, you’ll get sharp football analysis, smart betting insight, and plenty of fun along the way. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I lean Georgia as well, ever so slightly, but I think this game's going to see a lot of points. All right. So you're not going to engage with my wild prediction. We'll come back to that. Hank, clip the tape. I want to mark this for roughly five months from now. Okay? We're going to come back and I'm going to look like a genius.

Landry Kiffin. Hello, welcome to Jeff Schwartzes-Smarti. Jeff Schwartes-Smartian. By Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. It is Tuesday, September 23rd. Jeff Schwartz alongside Gabe Goodwin. We cut off our Rocha Shana topic off air, Gabe, to talk about football.

So happy new year to everyone celebrating Rojasana. It is a Jewish New Year today. I'm going to synagogue right after this. And maybe our call open. We'll handle that. We're going to talk football, Gabe. And we'll joke along the way a little bit here. How was your football weekend?

Football weekend was a lot of football, Jeff, and Leshanatova to you. We were at games. We were watching games. well, we snuck in some soccer and some baseball as well, but tons of football to talk about. More topics than I've ever seen in our rundown, Jeff. I know. We should. We should. You obviously went through the USC game. So your Trojans won. Your Chargers won. You're a good weekend for you. Chargers won.

I mean, all good for you. But let's start with the game last night. That was 68, Ravens 30. Yeah, not all good for Baltimore. This is, this happens with this Harbaugh team. It seems like they're great. They end great. They don't always start great. And they're giving up a ton of points. You said it 38 to 30. Second week in a row where you're like, what the hell?

What was that? I guess I have to ask, or sorry, two out of three weeks, not second in a row. If the D is healthy, are they fine and this is not a topic? Or are we like concerned systematically, structurally about this team? I mean, look, even the Browns game, the Browns and scores, a ton of points. They outgained the Ravens. It wasn't like a fluke. I think that the Browns and their offense we saw was knocking against the Packers. It obviously did enough to win that game. But Baltimore has allowed the most points, I believe in the NFL so far this year, 41, 17, and 38 now.

And yes, they are missing some players, but not enough to make that the result. Now, to be fair, they have played the bills and the Lions to high-powered offense and the Lions have looked much better since week one. But they're getting run through, which I think, is a problem. Now, Madabuque coming back will certainly help with that. Van Nuoy. They're just, yeah, I don't think Van Nuoy is a guy like I'm going to think is going to stop the run quite the same way, but they're missing a defensive back last night. I mean, there was a lot of guys. There's a lot of guys out, but still like, that's, look, they get

the benefit of doubt because of who they are, absolutely. But it is concerning, Gabe, because your schedule doesn't get any easier because you have a first place schedule. You know, you do get the benefit of playing three teams in your division that have, you know, that are not great in offense, right? That certainly helps you. But we view these teams through the lens of their expectations, right? And the expectation for Baltimore is to be near the finish line of the AFC conference. And right now, no matter how bad the chiefs are, and we'll talk about them in a few minutes,

the Ravens defense is just not living up to that task. For so many years, we saw that be a strong suit. And again, man, it's the mistakes, dude. The fumble by Derek Henry, again. it's little things like this that for years have cost them at times in some of these games that they blow. But for the most part, they've avoided bad mistakes. That's what the good teams do. And they're making them now.

They're making those mistakes. The lines also just out-schemed them. There were opportunities. You go to my Twitter at Jeff Schwartz. I actually highlighted some of them were I thought the lines just really did a good job of game planning. A couple of the touchdown runs were good blocks and good execution, but a really good job of understanding where the Ravens were going to align. and they've lost brain power over the years on defense.

Certainly could be possible that the brain drain is taking a little bit of toll on just schematically what they're able to do. But the Lions knew what was coming. Like when they've gotten certain formation and certain situation, took advantage of that. Yeah, I want to go a little deeper on the Lions in a second. On the Derek Henry thing, it's getting weird. And three fumbles now in three games,

a couple of them pretty consequential. Is there some drill you can do where you like, wrap like truck tires to your hands and run up a hill backwards or something. Like I feel like that works for him to keep his body in shape. Can we do something to keep him holding on to the ball? It's surprising. I mean, they do drills obviously.

You know, the Hutchinson, he just didn't see him, I guess, but the point of holding the ball like high and tight, as they say, is to, you know,

you know someone might be punched the ball out. That ball was kind of not close to his body, right? It was kind of out, out a little bit. And Hutchison got his hand in there and punched it out. So these are critical fumbles, man.

And, you know, as good as he is, and we know he's going to be a Hall of Famer one day, these fumbles are killing him, man. They really are. And I'm not saying that they lost in the game last night, but it didn't help him win the game, right? Obviously, the bills didn't help there. And, you know, when you have a player who's getting paid as much as he is and as a leader and it's so impactful, you've got to think he'll figure out eventually. But they're, you know, again, I'm not saying that's why they lost the game, Gabe.

but there's now two games where a fumble of his has been very costly and detrimental to the success of the team. What about this idea? So we see all the video of him doing these weird drills by himself out in a field somewhere, right? They're always crazy looking and they always make us say, man, that guy's strong. What if we put him in a car wash?

And then we have a bunch of guys with like jousting sticks coming at him. And he's just got to charge his way through a soaking wet place with those like floppy things slapping at him and jousting sticks hitting him. What if he does that and we get some video of that the next time he plays an actual? You've seen that thing they run through, right?

The running backs that have like the, yeah, like that. Yeah, so that, but elevate it. That's not as weird as I need. Derek Henry's secret is the weird workouts. So you need a little setup in a car wash or just dudes are popping out and jabbing them. I mean, look, we can set it up. I think you know people.

I don't know enough people to make that happen, but I would love to see a video of that happening this off season, just a little extra gauntlet for him. Look, it's just, it's, it's killing the team, man. It's just not good right now. And when you play teams like the Lions and the Bills, you can't give them extra opportunities, game, especially when your defense is not playing well.

And the extra opportunities are hurting them right now. And so, you know, when you're not as good at one thing, the other side has to pick up the slack, right? That's the way it works. And you want to be a balanced team. And right now, They're scoring points. They scored 40 in a loss, 30 in a loss. They're scoring points. But a couple of those errors have cost them the chance to win those games because their defense is not good enough right now.

Yeah, and they got the Chiefs on the schedule. So let's talk Lions for a second. Receiving Corps looks as good as any in the game. Gough is as good as anyone when he's at his best and has time. Where are we placing them? Do we just throw out week one? Like, what do we think of them? So very interesting, right? You know, week one happens and we go, of course, new coordinators, right? Jared Goff can't win without Ben Johnson, right? That sort of is a narrative. And then they gave us two middle fingers and they played excellent football the last couple of weeks. I think quite simply, Gabe, it's a thing of a couple of things.

One is that the offense line's been better, right? They have some new pieces in different spots. And they played better, certainly have. And then it looks like the offense coordinator is sort of figuring out what works for his team. It takes time. It takes maybe a game. It may take half a season to start feeling better about what you're doing. And the offense just looks way more comfortable and confident.

They're blocking, which allows golf the ability to get the ball. But the creativity in the offense, a fourth down play where St. Brown sort of came back in the backfield. They ran the option play for a touchdown. Like the creativity, they ran a double path, I think, yesterday as well. The creativity feels back in this offense. And that just shows me that they're confident in what they know they can do. And we didn't see that in game one. And that's okay. That happens.

They played a Packers team that was riled up. They're at home. They just traded for Parsons kind of ran into a buzzsaw maybe. But I think the lines now elevate them sort of back up to the top of the NFC. You got the Eagles obviously up there. The Rams, I think, are still up there. The lines now, the commanders, if Daniels is healthy, the Niners, who knows, we'll talk about them in a few minutes with their injuries.

But the lines have got to come back up now to the upper tier now of the NFC. Yeah, maybe Dan Campbell added an espresso shot to the daily routine. got a little bit more amped up and started calling some plays in practice. He went from, he went from what? This four day, he said, four in a coffee? Last I checked. That feels unhealthy. Coaches live a very unhealthy lifestyle.

I, it's, I just couldn't do it, man. When I was in Chicago, I was talking to a buddy of mine and coaches for the Bears. And he's like, I was like, how was the hours? He goes, man, I don't know, midnight, one o'clock in the morning most days. What do you? what are you doing you're there from six to one a.m. That feels like too much time in the facility. You can't get your work done in a timely manner in the first, what,

14 hours of the day, like six to eight. You can't do that. So coaches, man, they work, they work so many hours. You know who I'm wondering how much work they're doing is, I mean this jokingly, but also like kind of not sure what's happening. What's with the training staff in San Francisco? Like, honestly, I get it. Fluky plays, star players attract more attention when they get injured and they've had bad luck with star players getting injured over the years.

But at what point do we have to ask is there something else going on with the 49ers? They lose several players every year for the last few years. So this year, Purdy's hurt. Juan Jennings is hurt. Two key offensive linemen are out. Kittles on the IR. Ayuk was already hurt. Now we lose Nick Bosa for the year with an ACL.

Jeff, help me out here, man. What's going on that could contribute to this? It can't just be bad luck. So there, I thought I trainers in a sixth season. And I'm genuinely, I'm not trying to. No, no, I was just curious, because I was curious if they made it change at all. So, so there's a couple, you know, basically two types of injuries. I'll just characterize them two ways.

There's one that obviously is what we saw with Nick Bosa, where it's an injured happens on a play, right? It's fluky, it's unlucky, whatever it is, but it happens in the actual football. My dog's super excited about this topic as well, Gabe. And the second injury to me is what essentially is a lack of training, right, where you get a muscle pull, a muscle tear, a strain, something like that, where sometimes it's just lack of training, right? The guy pulls a hamstring, he's not in shape, a groin, a calf, something like that, right? A strain of some sort that can. It can be obviously just, you know, Mike Evans hurt his hamstring. I don't think Mike Evans is not training hard enough, but there are certainly injuries that the players have with

lack of training. You can, I don't want to, you can hurt your knee essentially if your quads are not developed enough, right? If your quadrons strong enough, don't stabilize that knee, you get hit in a weird way, your knee can get hurt. Now, it's hard to pinpoint exactly if that's the reason why someone gets a knee injury or not, but you know, there are ways to basically injury prevent the way you train, okay? And the Niners injuries, though, tend to be more of the game injuries, right? Bosa tears the ACL. That's nothing, I don't think Nick Bosa's not working hard enough. You look at him, you see the way he, you know, and Bacchafri, that is a running back. It's an overuse type of thing, right? Sometimes, you know, Purdy has a toe and a shoulder. Those are

not, to me, training type injuries. I don't, Gabe, I'm on at their practice. I don't know. there are times that we see teams that get that over-trained their players that get guys hurt because they're over-trained. I don't think that's San Francisco's problem. I don't see them having these terribly physical practices and beating everyone up. It's just not really honestly

the shame of the hand type of system. And you can't do that anymore now anyways. You get an off-day every fourth day in NFL training camp. So I wish I could just be like, hey, the trainers suck. It's their problem. Or it's just, they're just curse. right now, man. I don't know. I don't know what the...

And all that being said, they're, they're three and oh. And, and they're going to get pretty back eventually. Their offense is not, you know, dude, people are... One thing people love is, you know, redemption stories, of course, in the NFL. The people, Mac Jones, I'm like, this goes 16 points. What are we talking about? Like, yeah, I guess, but, I mean, Mac Jones was, he ended up throwing for a lot of yards, right? Yeah, 27 to 41 because they were scrambling to come back in that game. I mean, sure, I guess, but 16 points is not great.

And we'll see what happens to them. But the three, no, man, the Bosa thing is bad. When he's on the field, they're much better, obviously, than he's off the field. And I just don't know how they can withstand this. They hope Williams, the young cat, is going to get better and improve every week. He looks like he's getting better. But there's just no replacing him unless you try to trade for a Trey Hendrickson or you try to find someone else who's, you know, maybe Cam Jordan's available.

mid-season of the Saints are O and A, something like that. It's a different type of rusher than Bosa, but he does give you something that'll help you for any sort of playoff push. So maybe they get healthy at the right time, though. And if they always seem to win with backups, I guess credit Chanahan for that. I mean, that division is in play. The Rams seem like the best team.

They should have had to win this weekend and they lose on a crazy play. But they got to play for it, right? Like they're not giving up. They're going to get a bunch of guys back mid-season. Yeah, they're going to get the quarterback back, I would imagine, soon. The wide receivers back at some point, right? Now, again, there's no replacing Bosa. That is what it is.

But again, are they going to try to get themselves someone else? I mean, Trey Henderson is a great option, right? The Bengals are going nowhere. Even though what's funny, the Bengals are actually first in the division right now, because the Ravens are one and two. But is it worth calling over there and getting a deal done to bring them over? It's a one-year contract, obviously, trying to make a super bowl push

and the Bengals Peter out, do you go get him? So there are options, I think, Gabe, as I mentioned, to go trade for guys and I just feel like they're really in it. All right, well, you know who doesn't have to make any trades? Even after losing an elite pass rusher, my chargers, lifelong chargers fan here, I will just confess that, you know,

since I've been rooting for this team, you know, for decades, I've always noticed that the national media in each offseason hype them up and then they sort of charger their way to mediocrats. and then we repeat it the next year and again and again and again. But this year, this year does feel different. Herbert plus receivers plus Amari and Hampton. I see an MVP for him.

And I'm wondering, time to unseat the chiefs, maybe feels like it could be. So the best thing that Jim Harba has done, Gabe, is he got the charger to stop charging. like they have won games this season that they have lost in previous. The game Sunday, they have lost for a generation. Yes. They've lost game for a generation.

And they didn't. Even the Chiefs game, you go back at 3rd and 15, okay, it's 27, 21. I thought to myself, get a stop, Chiefs to win the game, 28, 27. And we all thought that. Herbert makes a play, right? And even this weekend, like they're going to go into New York this weekend. And like the trappiest of all games, right? Your three-nown division, the Giants stink.

I think they're just going to pound the giants. Like, it's just their mindset, right? Harbaugh's speech after the game was, I don't know if you saw it, I'm sure you watched it. Like, incredible. Obviously, everyone's bought in to what he's doing. Winning helps that. And then Herbert, dude, is fine. Like, this is what we're talking about when we talked about, like, there's a little more left of Herbert.

It's this. That's what we're seeing right now. That throw he made was absolutely incredible. To even just to break the tackle and to turn his body to get square to throw the ball, then he threw it around Benito's arm, I think it was, and made that. It's just, it's all working well. I think it's a formula, Gabe, that I think is withstandable, right? It's, we're going to win the line of scrimbers.

Look, there were some issues, I think, with all against speed rush. It's going to be a problem all season. and he'll figure it out. But just with the line scrimmage, let Herbert be the offense. He can really do that. And then we're going to win end of game situations, which again, for years they haven't done,

and they're doing that now. Yes, they tried to avoid like hell any of those end of game situations. That's why they were going for it on fourth and everything for a few years there. I also just didn't feel worried. They're up, you know, 10, 11 points. And like, they're not going to turn it over

and give up two scores in the fourth quarter a couple weeks ago. Like the confidence is there. So let me ask you this. Give me a play on this. I'm looking at, I believe these are the most up-to-date MVP odds. Alan,

obviously, your best bet. Lamar Jackson's still number two. Justin Herbert coming in at plus 500 ahead of guys like Hertz and love. Do we like a play on Justin Herbert at this point in the season? So these are on draft kings right now. And Herbert, I mean, it's just the number was so much better a couple days ago, right?

And I wonder if you just wait a little bit till he loses a game, you get a much better number game. And that's this market, right? The market's going to change every week. And you want to always buy the dip in these markets if you miss the best number. So, but also you think about this, like the MVP most years is best quarterback on best team. right? Some of years it's best quarterback on second best team. So are the Chargers better than Buffalo or Baltimore by the end of the season? That's the question, right?

Like is Herbert going to do enough? Are the Chargers going to be 14 and 3? It's certainly possible, absolutely possible. But that's the concern. Like Buffalo is going to win 14 games. They play a division. They're going to win 14 games. They already beat Baltimore. Like a Kansas City at home again, I believe, this season.

Like they're going to win 14 games. So it'd be hard to beat Josh Allen, I think. But I'd wait. I'd wait till there's a loss somewhere and the number gets better. Or maybe two losses in a row. Like this will be playable week 10 still and you probably get better than 5 to 1. Okay, I'm about to bring up another MVP bet we might want to make. Let me set it up by doing this.

You mentioned the Giants. So the Chargers go to the Giants, then they host the commies, then they're at Finns, and then they're home against the team we don't talk about on this show. They play in Indianapolis. They wear blue and white. Peyton Man used to be their quarterback. I will lift the ban for a second here if both of those teams are undefeated

when they face here in L.A. But what I really want to ask about is, if that were to be the case, wouldn't Jonathan Taylor be a great MVP pick? Should we put a little money on that right now? He's looking like a running back who could win an MVP the way he's carrying that team. Are you going to go to the game if they're both undefeated?

No, not to a team. Not because of who they're playing. No. Oh, really? Ban from the topic list on this show. Banned from me purchasing tickets. I saw his videos. Like the Chargers fans look like they're actually coming.

All 10 of them are showing up to the sofa. Like it looked like a big Chargers crowd this past. I was surprised. That typically has not been the case. L.A. was, we know, very bandwagon band-based. Only people I know who've gone to a Chargers game this year were Broncos fans. So.

The reason why these sports. books continue to grow. And I know Drafton doesn't have their own hotel, but we see these hotels continue to grow in Vegas because people put money on Jonathan Taylor to win MVP. And it's just, it's just not going to happen. So I wouldn't do it. And anyway, Daniel Jones right now is playing better. So I mean, Daniel Jones is like 850 yards passing in three games. Stay with me. I want to give this a second. Here's my theory. Daniel Jones will have to go 17 and 0 and significantly outplay

Josh Allen who goes 15 and 2 in order to win an MVP whereas I think your voting friends would give an MVP to a running back that leads a junkie team like the team in Indy if he goes for 2,000 yards rushing and scores 20 touchdowns which could happen they'll like the cute story there

more than the Daniel Jones as QB. So the last two running back MVP's, I believe I'm correct on this, were 2012 Adrian Peterson and in 2005, or Daniel Tomlinson, or that was Sean Alexander. Maybe then LT was at some point there as well. Those guys had historic seasons, right? And we know that I play in the 2012 Adrian Peterson Vikings team, and he rushed for, he was nine yards shorter of the rushing record for Eric Dickerson.

And then, you know, oh, sorry, 2006 was, was Lenny Thomas. He, I believe that year set a record for touchdowns in a season. And Sean and Zandre, I believe that 2,000 yards in, in, in 05. You just, if Taylor gets 2,000 yards, they go 14 and 3, maybe, Gay, but you need all those things to happen. You need Buffalo essentially to not, to not finish strong. You need, you know, the Baltimore to really do nothing. Like, there's just a lot of things. You need Jalen Hertz and Eagles and to not.

play well. You need a lot of things to happen for Love, for Taylor, I said to win the MVP. Okay. I think those things are going to happen faster than Travis Hunter doing whatever he would have to do to win an MVP in Jacksonville. He's got the same number as Jonathan Taylor. And Jamar Chase ain't winning an MVP, but I got to pay more to win with him.

So I'm, you know what? I'm sprinkling some Jonathan Taylor. I get the argument that the value is probably good, considering where he's around. Same as Travis Hunter, who has no chance to win. He's longer on to Jamar Chis, there's no chance to win. So if you're making a value play, yes. And if you're saying that, you know, this number is going to be 15, not 15 to 1,

you know, 15,000, right, in three weeks. And so you got yourself a ton of closing line value. Sure. I'm not one, my Gellon philosophy is this. Like I know people love the closing line value, right? Like I got to bet it at 300 to 1 now it's 150 to 1. Oh my God. It's not going to win though.

So like you just threw away money. You got a good value. Sure. On a bet that's not going to win, I tend to just try to make bets I think are going to win. That different than a lot of my gambling community friends who like love the closing line value of any sort of wager. I just like to find wages.

I think they're going to win and I don't think it's going to win. Yeah. You just, that really got into my psychology. I'm now thinking about when I go to Costco. I'm like, that's all that pistachios cost? That's why I don't go anymore. Yeah, I need nine pounds of pistachios. I get it delivered.

So I, so after COVID, I used to go to Costco every week before COVID. COVID happened. We're allowed to go. So I started Instacarting it. Not a sponsor. Maybe it could be one day. And I just order Costco now. It saves you a lot of money, dude.

The delivery fee save, like, it saves you. Because you don't go to what's your point? You don't go and be like, oh, here's something I absolutely do not need and won't eat, but it looks very good in the store. My kids, though, did used to love to run in the freezer and, like, and like the giant fridge with the eggs and milk were at when they were super young. I got some cute videos that I'm doing that. By the way, Norman Schwartz caught himself a salmon yesterday,

and I never seen my kid happier. I don't fish. I don't know where he got that from. He loves the fish, Gabe. They're in Seattle. He caught a giant salmon. Pretty awesome. That is extremely awesome.

I would like to see pictures of giant fish. But for now, let's go stay in the family in a different way. Quickly on the Chiefs. Maybe we should bet some MVP odds on Tyquan Thornton. Looked like Tyreek Hill for the Chiefs this week. Give me the positives quickly. Chiefs back? All the way back?

Halfway back? How are we doing? All right. So the thing, I think I told you that I'm, the thing about the chief, so I'm just sort of waiting offensively to see what they look like with any sort of downfield passing threat, Gabe. And very clearly, they had a tiny bit of that and the offense was able to unlock itself a little bit, right? It was much better than second half of that game.

But the run game thing still frustrates to shut out of me. They ran the ball on the drive to go ahead, run not to go ahead, but the drive to go up 10 after the half. They ran the ball twice or under center for 20 yards. Like, they were good runs. And just do it again. Like the running game still, the design, ballers just shed to me.

The running backs aren't very good. But be able to throw the ball with a little bit more success down the field, it opens everything up. If Thornton can be this guy for you, but now he's the three or the four. She writes is one, Xavier Worthies, two, Tyler Brown is three,

and Thornt's four. It's a pretty good group of wide receivers when they're all back healthy. And then you add Travis Kelsey in, of course, as well. So it's better than losing that game. We'll see what they do against Baltimore, who, of course, is allowing a ton of points right now. Defensively, they were fine. Russell Wilson is just so bad. Jackson Dart needs to play.

There's no point in playing Russell Wilson anymore. The loser of Ravens Chiefs goes to one in three. Kind of crazy. That is crazy. And yet that would be buying the dip. That's when I want to get on either of those teams who we know will end up in the playoffs somehow and probably winning around or two. So let's take a quick break. We've got to hit a bunch of other teams, including the one,

you just teased and Jackson Dart. Crazy, ridiculous story that we have to talk about. So let's do that after the break. All right, Gabe, we're back, and we're in your NFL speed round. One word, I must post a little more for some of these topics. Go ahead. Here we go. I'll give you the sentence.

You give me the quick reaction. Packers lose to Browns as soon as we thought they were the favorites, huh? Predictable. Like, just so predictable, right? Like, this is the NFL, though. This is why week three, we talked about in our gambling episode. Week three is a lot of weeks that the favorites lose, these big touchdown favorites lose, man. It was bound to happen.

It had been so long weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks since we've seen a lot of these upsets. And it felt predictable. And the Packers looked completely flat and unprepared to play in that moment. They're a young team still. Look, they were sleepwalking through that game. Good for the Browns. Browns defense, fantastic. We'll talk about Garrett in a few minutes.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. All right. Brown's offense. Dion Sanders thinks Shador will start for the Brown. at some point this season, set it on a podcast. Agreed. I agree. I've said all he'll start this season.

I think all three quarterbacks start this season. The podcast, yeah, I haven't listened to that episode yet. I know. Have you listened or you just saw a clip of it? I like that. I like that show. Like most people, I consume the clips. I have not yet found the actual long form to press play on.

But hey, that might be how some people enjoy you, Jeff Schwartz. I hope they do. Please. We need all the views. All of them. I'll take all of them. I'll take the clip views. All right. The Micah Bowl and Big D on Sunday night football.

Quick reaction. Eh, no. The Cowboys suck. I don't know. I'm uninterested, really. The Cowboys are just so bad on defense that the Packers will have a probably big bounce back. And I would imagine Parsons plays well and Jerry Jones looks stupid. They'll keep showing him in the booth and he'll look like a guy who trade away,

a franchise changing player. I think that's right. C.D. Lamb in a boot on a scooter, out for a few weeks. Cowboys' offense also useless? This injury is 100% on the Cowboys' coaching staff. They put Cid Lam at running back. Why? And then he tried to get tackled by Noah Sewell instead of being tackled by a cornerback or a safety.

So it's their fault. They're dummies for putting him a running back. What's the point? You have running backs. What's the point of doing this? So it's their fault. They're dummies. Okay. Eagles bucks. They're going to both be three and oh against all odds, given how week three, uh, week three played.

So is Baker the best leader in the NFL or is Baker the worst player on a great offense? Baker's, I think, fantastic to watch. He's a fun. He's a fun watch. He just gives it all, man. puts all in the line each and every game. Very, very fun to watch. Okay. I agree. And I think underrated as a result. So we'll, We'll just, we'll see. Do you got to pick on that game, Eagles box, or we'd save that for Thursday? Buddy, as we record this, I'm like, I'm in college football at the moment. I'll get the NFL, like, soon.

Bill, it's like you start, you know, college, I got, I'm thinking about college football picks first. We'll get to NFL. Copy that. Nine defensive or special teams touchdowns this week, most since the 90s. What the hell's going on? How happy to make you see all those kickers missed? So many misses. So many misses.

You probably loved it, right? My son is now saying cancel kickers. Oh, smart kid. Smart kid. I'll tell you what, man. A person of great power in this country called the new kickoff cissy football. And I would disagree. The new kickoff rule is allowing for a lot more fun on the kickoffs,

a lot better field position. Less yardage in the NFL, by the way, because everyone has better field position. Then obviously, special teams-wise, the blocks were fun, man. It was a fun, fun weekend. of extra, extra scoring. Hmm, okay.

I'm gonna leave that one alone for a second. Marietta wins in the Kingsbury offense. Hmm. Go ducks. Go ducks. Go ducks is right, but Mariotta is grayer than me, grayer than you, and running for 40-something yards

and throwing for 200-somethings-something. The raiders stink. I don't put much into this. Okay. So it's not that Cliff Kingsbury. and I don't like admitting this might just be good at drawing up some offense and the James Daniels maybe is a nice

benefactor of that and we can stop all the silliness All the Daniels is very good and also a benefactor and both are true All right, fair enough. Cam Scataboo Taking over starting quarterback or running back Well, maybe quarterback soon too, who knows What do we think of that for the Giants? Is he like the Jeremy Lynn in New York now?

Yes, I think he's a very fun watch. He obviously plays his ass off but I don't think he's going to have like some Renaissance at running back. Oh, he just, he takes so much beating, dude. Like, he takes so much beating. But he's fun to watch. He gives them energy and juice, which they don't have right now in offense.

Yep, no, they have nothing on offense. Jackson Dart, I'm hiring his PR guy. I don't, I, sorry. Oh, Collinsworth was all in on that. Collinsworth is so funny, man. Mahomes are some bad passes. He's like, oh, here's a guy. You know, they'll look at this effort

on this bad passy throw. It's crazy. They ran out of stuff to say, so they caught to him. By the way, take a look at how Jackson Dart looked on the sideline. And tell me you really are like, we got to go to that guy. He looks like he's in some teen movie. You know, like if the Descendants 9 came out and there was a quarterback in the movie, he'd look like Jackson Dart.

Stop it with Jackson Dart. He's that big like, and his eye, his eye black was running. The stupid eye black on one eye. He's got the chain. there's goofy SoCal hair. Stop it with Jackson Park. Is he from Southern California? No, actually, I don't think he is.

I think he's from Utah, but he spent a minute in the USC quarterback room. All right, which by the way, he couldn't win, but fine. All right, Giants and Jets are both O and 3. I'm going to give you a play here. The last time they both started O'N 3, do you know when it was? No. All right, it wasn't that long ago. 2021, according to my research.

Do you know what happened that year? No. NYCFC won the MLS Cup. So, Jeff, should we get on it? Should we bet MLS final NYCFC? Yeah, I think we should. I saw a tweet that was something like someone tweet out like worst New York in September history. And people were like, are you sure about that?

You sure? Oh, come on. September New York history. Get out of here with that. By the way, the Yankees are really. the only thing going well in New York right now. The Mets are mid-collapse. Yeah, the baseball, I know we're not a baseball podcast,

but what the Indians guardians are doing right now is kind of wild. They were like 15 back in July, June, and they're one back of the Tigers right now. I remember a movie with a plot like that. Most of the people watching probably don't. It's my second favorite movie ever. I think it is. Second?

What beats that? Shawshank Redemption. Oh, okay. I thought that's fair to be one, to be one or two. The first time I saw the unedited version of Major League and Doran and not Dorn, they pissed on Dorn's contract, which I only saw the edited version for years and years, Gabe. And the first time I saw the edited version, it's so, I was in tears laughing, dude. It's so, it's such a good movie.

I mean, it's probably actually not a good movie. It's just like. Oh, it's a perfect movie. It's an incredible movie. It's so good. It's an absolutely perfect movie. Okay, I'm going to, new game we're going to play. We're going to do super fast.

I'm going to name three things. You tell me which is the worst of the three. I'm not explaining the category. You just have to pick the worst one. Okay, here we go. Brian Callahan, Mike McDaniel, Trent Dilfer. It's probably, it's probably Trent Dilfer, honestly. Callahan, I think, can coach offense if it's just offense.

I think. I think if Brian Cownahan and Mike McDaniel were just offense coordinators, they'd be fine. But Trent Delfare never was a coach before this. So I would say Delfare. Oh, he was a high school coach. Not a college coach. I never was like an office coordinator, successful.

But I would say, I would say Delfare. Okay. He pulled out his cell phone on the sidelines, made some lose because of that. Jeez. Yeah. Friend of the show. Not going to trash Trent Dilfer. Okay, next category.

Here we go. Bengals. Raiders, Ravens. What am I talking about? What are they all bad at? Offensive line. That's right. Yeah. But really the Raiders are Bengals. Bengals.

No, I think Raiders might be worse. Really? Unseeding the Bengals. They would have gotten that every year. Yeah. Raiders are better. I told you they should have drafted an offensive lineman first. Not gently exactly what's happening right now. Okay, here we go. You'll figure this, category out quickly. Tyra Taylor, Jake Browning, Mac Jones. Backup quarterbacks. Are we doing the worst one or the best one? Like what do you

want to do you're the choice here? The guy who you have the least confidence in right now. I mean, probably Mac Jones, honestly, even though they've won the two games. I'm with you. McCork is tough to watch, man. And Tyra Taylor, the Jets should have done this a while ago. By the way, I'm sneaking this in here. I didn't ready Hank for this. I'm doing it. I I've talked about sports divorce for a couple years now with you. Put the Jets on the band list. They don't deserve it. We got it in earlier.

I don't ever want to do it again. The Jets are out. Oh, yeah. They're 0 and 3. There's nothing to talk about that anymore. All right, let's go. Okay, this one, I don't know. I don't know how you're going to piece this together,

but here goes three things. Stopping Miles Garrett, hitting a home run off a major league pitcher. or pronouncing acetaminophen if you are the president of the United States of America. Oh, my God. Tonal's going to win so much money in a lawsuit. It's going to be precious.

He also tried to talk about the MMR vaccine and didn't know what the R stood for. And he's like measles, mumps, and just moved on. Oh. Well, what's the category, first of all? Stopping Miles Garrett on a rush, hitting a hardest thing to do. Yeah, hitting a major league pitcher or pronouncing the word of Cedamine of Finn.

What's the hardest thing to do? I mean, look, I think the hardest thing to do is probably hit a home run. But I, for regular people saying a Cetamine, like, I understand why you couldn't do it. But if you're giving a press conference to explain why you're trying to ban medicine for pregnant women that's been proven to do no harm to them and the only thing they can take when they're pregnant for anything essentially, for any sort of pain or fever or anything like that, you should get the name of the generic drug correctly, right? Like the generic medicine correctly. That's just my personal opinion on the topic. Maybe other people disagree with me. my wife very famously in the medical field.

I told her this stuff and she thought I was kidding. She thought I was joking when I told her some of the medical updates the last 24 hours. Are you saying that when you make a major announcement as the president of the United States of America, you should do slightly more prep than we do for this podcast? Is that what you're saying? Yes.

I think we actually do the same amount of prep. I open up the Google Doc. I look through it. Now, obviously, this shows a little different than the Wednesday. show Thursday show with Matt, but like the point of the show obviously is like you fire stuff at me that I may not have seen so far. I try to give you, make you smarter. I do take a peek at the dock. But yeah, I would imagine that he gets handed a piece of paper and he just goes and talks immediately with zero idea of what's about to be said. It's dangerous, man. It's dangerous.

Well, I'm not going there. I want you to make me smarter about a real football topic then. The reason I asked this question is because Miles Garrett obviously is insane. Yeah. Seems unblockable. But this week, he was miced up. And he said that he got past a lineman. And the second he got past him, the lineman just started yelling, Jordan, run! That's what he claims.

You hear it on the video. Yeah. He absolutely said it. Okay. So is that weird? Does that happen? You played line in the NFL. I've never done.

I've never done it before, but it absolutely does happen. Yeah. Like, if you get beat, I say, watch out, watch out, watch out. Like, yes. The quarterback hears you, I don't know, but yes. Yes, absolutely. Okay. First of all, that's incredible.

And how humiliating is that if you just have to yell to your quarterback, watch out! But now here's back to the original question then. Take me, average-sized person. Maybe not, maybe even less than average, but whatever. I'm about six feet tall. I'm not the biggest guy. I played a little baseball.

I'm reasonably athletic. I'm in decent shape. You drop me into a major league batters box against a pitcher trying to get me out, or you put me on an offensive line, and my assignment is keep Miles Garrett away from a quarterback. I think with Miles Garrett, if you just get lucky enough to just, like, cut his legs out, grab his legs, like, there's a way you can stop him.

You're not hitting Paul Skeens. it was funny Schemes on a a Muki Betts as a podcast I don't know what the name of it is but I saw a clip of him with Paul Skeins

they asked him like how do you pitch Babe Ruth which is the dumbest I love baseball a lot but the way baseball compares itself to guys that played 100 years ago and you just wouldn't do that in football basketball

he just wouldn't do that but all of a sudden like you wouldn't be like you know what how would how would George Miken match up with with Janus

you'd be like Yons would score 85. points on him. Like, you wouldn't need me a question. But some reason there's this Babe Ruth thing that he, like, he swung a 36, 35, like a giant bat. It seems like, I just throw fastball. And then I throw fastball again. And I throw another one and then another one. And then probably another one. Maybe I'll throw a splitter or they call a splinkler when he's got that splitter slur thing, whatever it is. Like, Babe Ruth would not touch the ball any of those times. And we talk about it. like, this is basically drives me crazy about baseball, man.

Oh, he hasn't done it since, since 1908. Okay. That, that, sure. I mean, the NFL has like Super Bowl era stats and then like other stats. Like, baseball should have a cutoff. I don't know when the cutoff is. Maybe like, I don't know, when they raise the mound back up and that's what it was, you know, like, I, the lower the amount, I should say.

So I think it was higher than it went back lower when no one was hitting. I don't know what the cutoff is for baseball, but I just, I love that by baseball so much game where we compare like Aaron judge he's looking like Bay Bruth out there what it was a hundred years ago yeah it's laughable and I'll tell you when the era is how about when players weren't showing up to the game coming off like their shift as a plumber drunk from happy hour and trying to pitch to Bay Bruth let's cut that off and then everything since then is we'll consider somewhat real if you pitch to Mike Schmidt we can compare your stats to you know, what's happening now, but not Babe Ruth.

So I just don't be hitting is probably a little tougher. Acetepetamine, probably second. And then Miles Garrett, no, Miles Garrett's impossible stop. I could be a speed bump, though, and that helped me. Thank you for making me smarter there. We have college football to talk to. Yes. And it's a hell of a weekend.

So let's take a break and do that next. All right. We're back. Let's talk about your book, Gabe, for a few minutes. Incredible weekend of ball coming up here. my ducks have a big game. Your Trojans have a big game. There's a big game in the SEC.

Where do you want to start? I want to start with Oklahoma, who received the first place vote, who I watched some of John Mateer in that win over Auburn, and I got to say, maybe I'm late to the party. That dude can play. That team is probably underrated. And other than the fact that their schedule is absolutely effing brutal,

I'm buying all the Oklahoma stock. Am I crazy? So I gave out. John Matera is a highman. Yeah, a good ticket. Great pick. I watched him play at Washington State.

I also told everyone Mendoza was going to be good for Indiana. Also, a cow guy. By the way, we mush cow in the worst possible way this past weekend. I'm sorry to Cowboy. Thank you for listening to the Tron interview, but holy heck,

34-0. Ooh. Yeah, look, Oklahoma is really good. Matira is doing a good job. There's some flaws there, but their defense is fantastic. They also got the benefit of some officiating,

which, again, they won the game in the end game. They made the plays, but got a touchdown, right? That was given to them on an illegal play that changes the game, obviously, if that doesn't happen. But their schedule, though, is a nightmare. So Kent State is next. Yeah. After by their office weekend.

Then it's Texas, and who knows what Texas looks like, but that's a rivalry game. South Carolina, Old Miss, Tennessee, Bama, Missouri, who looks really good at LSU. So that's a team. Team rank 10, 13, 15, 17, 20, and 4. So great start playing really well. Can they run this gauntlet?

I don't think so. But, you know, fun, you know, fun story. Look, John Meteer, man, there's two straight years of these wazoo quarterbacks, right? Cam Ward went to Miami. Mattier now at Oklahoma. Do some really good stuff. Yeah. I'm keeping track of this trend.

Rando Pack 12 school transfers to big time school becomes Heisman contender, number one picking the draft. Could happen again with John Matier. And why we talk like Jane Daniels too, right? That's what I'm saying? Does he count as one of them? Yeah, why not? What about the inverse?

What about SEC to PAC 12, Bo Nix? Oh, great call. Yeah. Not, not Nico, though, at UCLA. Not a good example of that. You're wearing it. You mentioned it. Let's talk Oregon Penn State.

Feels like it could be a national championship preview. Yeah, it should be a fun game. So a couple of things on this game where I net out on this one. It's going to be a tough game, right? It's an environment that Oregon has not played in since we went to Washington two years ago. It's an offensive line and quarterback that haven't played together in this environment. It's going to be loud. It's going to be rocked.

It's going to be hostile. This reminds me a lot of how the Georgia Tennessee game might go where Tennessee came out and just barrage them early. Now, Pennsy doesn't have that passing offense game, but they came out early. They stunned Georgia, and Georgia just sort of clawed their way back in that game to win a double. I don't think this game's going, you know, 45, 42, whatever the final score of that game was. But Penn State's off a by, they're at home. There's a lot of noise, a lot of atmosphere. Can Oregon withstand that initial, like, shock of playing in that, you know, you can't communicate in that noise.

No matter how much you practice it, it's nearly impossible to actually do it. You know, again, what wrinkles will you see from Penn State's offense off a two-week prep? because their offense has honestly not been very good so far compared to the standard that we have to see. But we're going to stop the run. If they can withstand that first quarter game, I feel good about their chances. I really do. If I tell you, like, we have a better quarterback. I think we like the coaching staff at Oregon a little more.

We got better players overall on offense. Defensively, they probably have an edge, especially a pass rusher. But, like, Oregon just talent-wise is right up there. So I'm looking forward to it. Should be a lot of fun. And 7.30, wife out of town too. I'll be home with the kids. So great, there's kids.

Like, here's your iPads. Like, see you later. I'll talk to you at 9 o'clock when it's time for bed. Whiteout game and James Franklin, who obviously never really shows up. His teams don't at least against top five teams. He's calling on the fans. He says they need them. Fans are going to be the difference, Jeff.

Is that you buying that? Well, look, it's going to be loud. And, you know, Oregon. like every team likes to do the check with me, right? They get a line of scrimmage. It's like, hot, no one moves. You look to the sideline. You signal a play in.

Now, the guys that are signaling the play, like they're looking there. They can see the play. The offensive line doesn't look to the sideline. Maybe this week they're going to change that. So they change the play. Dante Moore comes up. The quarterback tells them, hey, we're doing this and that.

And the noise is going to be hard to do that. So how do you mitigate those things? You just call or run it, things like that. So look, Oregon's off at the tackles. I think this is a game where both teams have some advantages on defense, rushing and pass against both offensive lines. So,

to be back and forth game, can you withstand that barrage? All the pressure on Penn State, buddy, they're off a buy, they're at home, it's a whiteout, which they begged for to have this game as a whiteout, Oregon's traveling across the country.

It's a weird, you can't even stay in the city. You have to stay, you fly two hours away, drive, fath an hour, stay somewhere. It's like, let's go. All those things are on Penn State's side. Can they win this game?

Well, they haven't won this game in a while, while we'll find out okay it could be the start of a new fun big 10 rivalry type situation i like i like this thing where we you know we only go to certain cities certain years it's kind of cool that way it feels more yeah it's like once it's a yeah i think it's like once every four years something like that is the way it ends up working out yeah yeah um all right well two teams that play each other all the time and know each other well weird matchup though this year bama in athens Dogs are, what, two and a half point favorites is what I saw the latest. We can double check that.

But here's why I wanted to bring this up. I predict Alabama loses. I predict Brian Dayball is the next Alabama head coach. I think he's out of a job in New York. I think he becomes the leading contender to replace DeBore in Alabama. The look on your face tells me I'm on to something. It's wacky enough to get your attention. Could this happen?

Well, table's out of a job. He'd be the head coach. I don't know. I'll see Nick Saban guy. Saban guy. So what's interesting, so the SEC announced

their new schedule format for next season and really to 2029 and they paired up teams, right? So like every conference is doing where you have like your regular rivalry games, right? So like Oregon, Washington,

USC, UCLA, Ohio State, Michigan, like you have these pairings. And they did a rotation of four essentially. Alabama, Georgia did not get paired up. This is, this is it for a little bit of time. Alabama got Auburn, Tennessee, Mississippi State. Georgia got Auburn, Florida, South Carolina. Auburn gets Georgia and Alabama. That sucks for Auburn to get both those teams. I didn't think Auburn, Georgia was a rivalry, honestly. Georgia doesn't get Tennessee or Alabama. Pretty fortunate for them there. But this game I think will be high scoring. And I

lean Georgia as well, ever so slightly, but I think this game's going to see a lot of points. All right. So you're not going to engage with my wild prediction. We'll come back to that. Hank, clip the tape. I want to mark this for roughly five months from now. Okay? We're going to come back and I'm going to look like a genius.

Landry Kiffin, Lane's daughter. Big buzz around campus because she's apparently dating, I think it's Whitweaks linebacker at LSU. The pictures of them. together come out this week and everyone's like, oh my God, why would she announce this game week? Because Ole Miss is playing LSU. What are we dealing with here? Max, like, Max level trolling. Are we looking for clout and followers from coach or his daughter? Is this what the kids call aura farming? I don't know. What do we make of this? Orer farming. I probably didn't use that

correctly. I don't know. Is this a hang topic or this is a game topic? He keyed me on this one, but I took an interest when I looked around. Yeah. So someone posted a picture on the internet of them together and then said, take the over in the game. And Lane Kiffin replies to take the over in the game. So I don't really understand that joke, to be honest.

But what do you mean? Take the over. Why are we taking the over? Because Lane Kiffis are trying to run the score up or something, scores as many points as possible against a linebacker that's dating his daughter. Yeah, yeah. Okay, fine.

Great. Well, that did seem like my worst, nightmare as a dad finding out my daughter is dating the cool looking, you know, linebacker of the team I'm playing against. I don't like to see that. I'm a guessing he already knew that, though. I'm sure he knew game before yesterday that his daughter was dated LSU linebacker. Yeah.

I would think that it came up. Yeah. Do you think he asked her for into, no way, right? He's not like telling what your dad's thinking this week. I bet she doesn't care what her dad's thinking this week. I agree as well, yeah. I think one of the last things on earth that a college girl, girl would care about is what her stupid dad is doing in a football.

Is she the one that does the TikToks with Lane Kiffin? There's one of his daughters is like a big TikTok person. I see like every pop up every now and then like the TikToks of Elaine. Unless Hank rapidly gets in the document or my ear, I have absolutely no idea the answer. Yeah. All right. Last one.

Trojans. 4 and 0. Most yards of any team. Mayava looks good. Maybe even a Heisman contender. The run game was for real this week. The thing you always say, where is it? Where is it?

Where is it? Okay. They beat Michigan State. They're not great, but they beat them pretty easily minus one speed bump late in the third. So please don't be a jerk. Give me an honest assessment of how they're going to fare over the next four games. They're at Illinois. They host Michigan.

They go to Notre Dame and they go to Nebraska. What do they look like coming out of that? They'll beat Illinois this weekend. Illinois secondary is. completely beat the shit. Like they're lost like six guys on, and I think their best secondary players out for the season and then their middle linebacker got tossed

and I think he's missing the first half of the game. They're going to lose to Michigan, lose to Nebraska. I mean, lose to their name and beat Nebraska. I think two and two is three and one wouldn't surprise me. Here's the thing about, I mentioned Michigan yesterday on a different podcast, beating them and they were like, what? And my reply back was this.

League of mine has been there four years, Gabe. Has he won a game where they were worse in the trenches than their opponent. I can't think of one. The answer's no. And Michigan's better than them in the trenches. So it's Notre Dame. Now, Notre Dame's defense is an issue right now.

The USC might score 45, but Notre Dame might score 48. They can score a lot of points. That game's going to be crazy in South Bend. So I think two and two is probably a three and one in one surprise. I think three and one is probably the best they do. No worse than two and two.

Illinois this weekend is juicy at plus seven a half, but their secondary is so beat up. Now, the one thing about this game, too, is that this is the early kickoff. It's the 12 Eastern, so 9 a.m. Bodyclock. I saw Oregon at Northwestern for this game. They started super slow. So if Illinois can sort of get out early in this game, no matter how hard you try to, like, wake up and get going,

it's still early, Gabe. So I think USC might a little early, kind of like a little lull early in that game, but I think eventually they took over and win this game and bought 5-0. The game in Eugene, you're going to go. to Eugene if it's like an 8 in 1 USC and 8 in 1 Oregon? I mean, I would love to. You got a place for me to stay? I do not.

There's nicer hotels now. I'll tell you where to stay. I tell you you can stay in this hotel. You walk across the bridge to the game. Super easy. Like, you'll enjoy all of it. Okay. If we're 8 and 1 going to Eugene, I'll find a way there.

Maybe we can room up for that one. I think you're discounting the fact that Lincoln Riley finally has a run game. I don't know what your explanation for what happened there with Waymo and Eli Sanders. Yeah, but Gabe, he, so I need to see the run game against better teams, man. Like, he does this every year. Like, Woody Marks average, what, eight yards of carry last season, some insane number, but rush the ball 12 times a game.

Like, they've always been to run the football. He doesn't do it. He doesn't do it enough. He gets away from the run against his better teams. So against Michigan, if they're doing a little bit better stopping the run, you're going to stop doing it? Like, that's my question. right like are you gonna are you gonna we have three years now of this where against the better

teams they stop running the football and so can you do it against better teams that that's it okay all right i i heard eight and one as possible so i'm gonna i'm gonna take it i mean i mean i think it is i i don't think you go through the stretch undefeated but i think you don't do worse than two and two and Nebraska dude off Nebraska now last thing on the USC their worst game of the year so far is at Purdue. They only scored 26 points on offense. They had to force three red zone turnovers. They got a pick six obviously from a big fella. So the road thing, like, they're just not as good on the road. Curious how this weekend goes with the caveat that it is early kickoff, body clock time for

USC. Is that real? I keep saying we're done, but I got to ask about this. The body clock? Talk to me about body clock. Make me smarter. Yeah. So the reason why I think it's real. So Oregon went to Northwestern. I was at the game, right? I mentioned 12 Eastern kickoff 9 a.m. Pacific, right, body clock. And Oregon tried everything they could game to basically start fast. They got there early, right? They got there on Thursday. They practiced all week in the morning, in the morning all week, because school is not in yet. You can choose school being, I think school is actually in now, but school is not in then. It's a quarter school, right? So schools can practice whenever you want. It was morning, the practice of the morning.

I was talking to one of the guys on the staff before the game. I said, like, how do you, like, how are we getting going this morning? Because they woke up at 6 o'clock whenever, was at five o'clock, banging on guys' doors in the hotel, like trying to get them riled up. Because again, it's a 5 a.m. body clock wake up. You wake up at 8 o'clock on the East Coast. That's five o'clock. Like imagine, Gabe, you go back east all the time for work. If you have to wake up at 7 o'clock East Coast time to work to beat a meeting by nine,

you kind of feel it, don't you? Now, imagine playing football having to do that when you've been basically training for weeks and weeks at the same time and now you have to do it three hours it makes a difference and we saw the organ was very sluggish to start it game it's a thing we see it all the time i that if it wasn't a thing my brother did it once he had to play maryland at a 12 eastern they started nine o'clock in the morning they stunk early in the game and then got better in the second half it's a thing if it wasn't a thing we wouldn't talk about it i'm just saying i don't think it's a thing like if you're it is we have years of data and evidence these guys are sleeping restfully in their beds until the alarm clock goes

out they got game day jitters anyway. Oh, that's not a really, I never. Oh, that's not a thing, but this is a thing? I had no game day jitters, but I had stuff like a baby before games. Turn the air conditioning down to 65, just snug up in my bed. Oh, it was great. Best night's sleep I had was Saturday night. Can I throw this?

Maybe I'm old and I don't want to get too gross here, but the only thing I can understand being an issue is with the body clock is like when you're going to get to the bathroom, right? Like that's the problem. When do you time the visit to the bathroom before you put all the pads on? You got to get that out of the way. Well, that's more of it. But yeah, but that's probably going to be fine because it's more of like a coffee thing, right?

Either coffee and then you, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what these teenagers are doing these days. Do kids even drink coffee anymore? Are they done with that too? They got rid of every other fun thing. I don't know. Are you, you one cup a day, two cups a day? How are we doing?

Like a hundred. What are you talking about? You have good coffee at the office? No. I don't like good coffee. I drip coffee. I mean, cheap stuff.

Oh, so do I. Okay. I, well, I went with this. My brother's a big, like,

coffee snob guy. And he sent me to, like, a place in Santa Monica once to get coffee. He's like, you got to try this place out. And I walk in, and I just was like,

coffee, please. Regular coffee. Like, no, we don't do that here. Look at the board. I'm like, I just, I drink Dunk and Donuts

coffee at home every day. Like, can I just get, Like, can I just get some coffee? The closest thing I found was like a chocolate, orange, like, caramel thing happening. I don't, dude, it's not, it's not my thing. Like, it's a, this coffee shop, again, very like, not famous, but very popular. Just, just, just, I'm looking right now.

So, like, honey, so that a lighter blend, honey, citrus. gram cracker. Oh, come on. Brown sugar, biscuit, citrus, milk chocolate, dried berry almonds. Here's a medium blends. I can't even pronounce that. I'm like, I'm like Trump. I can't pronounce any these names of these things. But, um, berry, fudge, molasses.

There's what his, it's just ridiculous. These are like sherbert flavors. We're not, that's not coffee. This is, I'm with you. I'm, I'm Dunkin' Donuts every day. That's my normal coffee. It comes from Costco. I order the giant tub of it. Hell, I'm good. I'm good. All right. That's enough. I have to go to Temple. We will talk to you guys on Thursday.

Have a good couple of days and enjoy some downtime, no football, but always busy. Talk to you guys then. Take care, everybody.