Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Super Bowl 56 Recap

Episode Date: February 15, 2022

Geoff joins Gabe in the LA Studio to break down the Super Bowl, Matt Stafford's HOF bid, the Rams ability to repeat next year, the Bengals offseason plans, and Geoff's review of the half time show.In Moving the Line, they talk about Aaron Rodgers future and Geoff gets prematurely excited about the Chiefs prospects next year. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's Tuesday, February 15th. I'm Jeff Schwartz alongside Gabe Goodwin and Matt Ford. This is Jeff Schwartz of Samariu, powered by the Varsity Podcast Network. We're here all together after the Super Bowl. The Rams beat the Bengals, which is impressive because the Bengals won on social media for two weeks straight.

They already won. So credit to the Rams for beating the Bengals twice in that game. It was a Super Bowl that, I don't know, it was okay. It was fine. And we're here after the season's done with the Rams. I never thought Mass Stafford would make that big of a difference for this team. But here we are, game, with the Rams winning 23-20 in a game that was poorly coached, poorly played at times.

But, Ian, the Stars for the Rams made the plays, and the Stars for the Bengams made the plays and the stars of the bingles did not you know it's funny jeff you set the whole thing up all right and you said a few names just now but you somehow avoided the only two names that every take maker in the business is obsessing over this morning you did not mention my guy cooper cup and you did not mention everyone else's guy aaron Aaron Donald which is all anyone seems obsessed with the Rams win and then it's like why wasn't Aaron Donald the MVP every football nerd and you're one of them was trying to convince me that Aaron Donald was the MVP not the obvious effing MVP

Cooper Cup who saved the day was the only good player on the field in the final drive the only weapon available to Matt Stafford is Cooper Cup and yet people are talking about a lineman who sort of moved a quarterback once oh boy okay the final two plays of the game aaron donald had a stop on third and one by himself with one arm and the final play of the game obviously did not sack joe burrow burrow almost had an incredible play there look i mean donald's the best player in the field it doesn't mean he's the mvp of the game, right? I mean, his value was obviously, we saw a lot in the second half of the game. The first half of the game, though, and to be honest with you,

it really started when Donald was shoved out of bounds late. Do you remember he shoved Joe Burrow in that run, and then the Bengals' offensive line came over and antagonized him. It made no sense. The next play, he lifted up the right guard for a sack. Don't bother Aaron Donald. Don't poke the bear. That was a legit game plan we had against Haloti.

We played Haloti Nata. It was don't poke the bear. Like, block him. Do your job. But don't go hitting him late. Don't hit him over a pile. Don't hit him in the back. Like, don't do any of that.

Just do your job. And as soon as they got Donald riled up, he played much better. So, look, obviously, Von Miller played well. Ernest Jones, the linebacker, had two sacks in that game. He was able to get after the running backs as they tried to block him. But the best player on the field was Donald. It doesn't mean he's the MVP, though. And you mentioned what Cooper Cupp did for the Rams in this game without Odell,

who was on his way to probably win the MVP in this game. He was – no? I don't know. I mean, you know. Odell was the offense early on because there was so win the MVP in this game. He was, no? I don't know. I mean, you know. Odell was the offense early on because there was so much focus on Cooper Cupp. This is only helping my point that Cooper Cupp is the MVP. And then the Rams lost their second string tight end. So their third string tight end was in.

And so they just kind of didn't have as many weapons. They couldn't run the football. And Kup on that last drive just made it about himself. And Stafford found him. They made some adjustments on the final drive. They went a little up-tempo, which forced the Bengals to settle in some zone because they were struggling to move the ball. The second half was a pretty ugly half of offense.

The Bengals' only big play that half was at T. Higgins where he ripped Jalen Ramsey's face mask as he threw him by. And the Rams had no drive until the final one, which mattered the most in the end. But, yeah, Cup was great. I mean, he finished off one of the best, if not the best Super Bowl season for any wide receiver ever. And he was the only weapon on the final drive

when nobody had anyone else they could go to but him, including running it on fourth and one because they didn't have any running backs who could gain more than a yard. So he did everything. So Donald did what Donald does, which is, you know, be a dominant force on defense. But I don't understand these people

who are trying to talk themselves into the idea that he should have been an MVP with no stats to speak of. He would have won the MVP if the voting happened at the end of the game. So the voting happens with two minutes left in the game because the media members then go downstairs to be on the field for the game. So you think that final play on Burrow

doesn't even get factored in? No, it absolutely does not. Because the voting is done with two minutes left in the game. So if that final drive happens where he makes the play on third and one, that was by himself, by the way. Everyone else is blocked. He reached out, grabbed P. Ryan. And the final play game, classic Aaron Donald move.

I discussed, and what makes Donald special, there's many things, obviously. But his ability to beat double teams and finish and finish. Aaron Donald move. I discussed, and what makes Donald special, there's many things obviously, but his ability to beat double teams and finish and finish. So on the final play of the game when he got the sack, or really the forced

throw of Burrow who again almost completed that pass. That was unbelievable. He beat a double team. Like the center was coming to him and he went around

the guard before he could do that. And then his ability to bend, that's what set guys apart. Plenty of guys can win reps, but his ability to turn the corner and then attack the quarterback.

J.J. Watt's so good at this, too. And Von Miller. I mean, when Miller beats his guy, I mean, that ability to leap forward, right, and get the sack makes him so special. But, yeah, Cup. And, again, Matt Stafford saved Sean McVay from an all-time brutal game plan. The Rams had a zero efficiency run the football. They could have not been any worse.

How many times on first down did they run the football for negative yards? Every time they checked to a run, the Bengals had it locked in. When you check to runs, it's for one thing most often, safety alignment, right? So if you have two high safeties, that means that you have one less player in the box. That's kind of the general rule. If you have one safety, that means typically a safety is down the box. So two high safeties, less run defenders, you run the football. One high safety,

you pass the football, less pass defenders. So that's the way most offenses are set up. So every time the Rams checked, they ran the ball most of the game. There was a couple times that they threw, but the Bengals know if we're in too high, the Rams check, they ran the ball most of the game. There was a couple times that they threw. But the Bengals know if we're in too high, the Rams check. They're going to run the football. We just rotate our defense to the snap. Boom. The Bengals had a good defensive game plan, but the Rams kept running the football.

Stafford was playing really well. Now, the ankle injury to Stafford maybe cost them the ability to move the pocket more. Every time they moved Stafford out of the pocket, he made some really nice throws. But again, McVay got bailed. It's two Super Bowls in a row now with really conservative game plans that kind of counter to what we saw on the field. And he made no adjustments either. The one adjustment he did make, I will say, was the final drive of the game

where they did go up-tempo. But Stafford saved McVay from another all-time poor coaching performance at Super Bowl. Yeah, okay. So can I play devil's advocate? I think I agree with you, and I think Stafford, Cup, and Donald bailed out Sean McVay, who now is going to pretend like he was considering retirement to try to get another contract. We'll get to that later. It's all nonsense but i i think i want to know are you sure

it isn't that he couldn't even name the receivers he had on the field like how he kept on running it because he lost him he's down to one receiver remember robert woods bobby trees has been out for weeks like odell goes down higby's gone. There was a guy named Skowronik. And the second-string tight end got hurt, Blanton, in the game. Yeah. So now it's Skowronik. The other white wide receiver. Yeah.

And some other – I don't even know who these people were. Maybe he was like, I can't let Matt Stafford try to throw to that guy. I got to run with Cam Akers. For zero yards. It's possible. But again, he was moving the ball fine when they committed to throwing to that guy. I got to run with Cam Akers. For zero yards. It's possible. But again, he was moving the ball fine when they committed to throwing the ball more, even with all the guys out.

And Odell was obviously a very big loss. I felt bad for Odell. He tore his ACL. And he was having a great game until then. He was a big part of that game. A touchdown. Now he gets a Super Bowl ring for his efforts. And obviously you can tell how emotional he was during the game.

Imagine, I mean, you waited your entire career for this game. You're playing well and then get hurt. And especially you tear your ACL again, you're going to be a free agent. But Odell was a big part of why the Rams got here. And you're right. I mean, look, it was possibly saying, look, we can't let Skoranek, especially after he dropped that ball to interception. We're not going to throw the ball.

But it wasn't working. I mean, and at third string tight end, did he have six catches too? So they always had some offense. Yeah. No, he was fine but it wasn't working. I mean, and at third string tight end, did he have six catches too? So they always had some offense. Yeah. No, he was fine. He wasn't the issue. Scott Ronick is who I'm bagging on here. Okay, wait.

So there's a few other names we haven't really gone far enough on, and I want to talk about next year in a second. Your boy, Dan Arlovsky, has taken a victory lap because he's been caping up for Matt Stafford since, you know, the days of being his third stringer. He was in his box yesterday. Yeah. He is unapologetically a huge Matt Stafford fan. And now he looks he's vindicated, right?

Like he's been saying all these great things about him and everyone had evidence to say, well, I don't know, man, this guy ain't it. Well, now he is it. Has Matt Stafford been this guy all along and he just played on bum teams that couldn't bail him out? Or did he find something new with McVay and all these weapons? Good question. And I don't think I have a great answer for that. He was 0-3 in the playoffs with Detroit. He was 4-0 with the Rams. I think that's a perfect marriage of what McVay wants to do with his offense, what Stafford, what his skill set is.

Now, that throw he made, that no-look throw to Cooper Cup was incredible. Like, that's a throw obviously Jared Goff doesn't make. And probably, really, I mean, Rodgers, Mahomes. I mean, it's probably the list of guys that make that throw. And for those who missed it, check it out. There was a high-low where the inside receiver ran like a little curl route and Cup was coming behind him. And there was a safety, really, there was a linebacker,

a safety that was kind of in play for both those guys. And Stafford looked to the shorter route, and I think it was Bell who broke to the shorter route. And then, while looking at that route, threw the ball to Cup on the dick route. It was an unbelievable throw. Those are the elite throws that make the difference between, obviously, Jared Goff, Matt Seppert, and winning the Super Bowl. It was an unbelievable throw. Those are the elite throws that make the difference between obviously Jared Goff, Matt Stafford,

and winning the Super Bowl. So look, I don't know because they've been quarterbacks on bad teams that have won before. And Stafford did have some success in Detroit. But it feels like it's a perfect marriage between him and McVay. I will say this.

I'll push back on this for a little bit. He's not a Hall of Famer because of this. Okay. Like, let's slow down with this um you i'm very staunch with the hall of fame when it comes to the way i view it right it's not a hall of very good it's hall of fame it's the elite guys you have to have been the best player at your position at some point in your career to be a hall of famer mass ever has never been that guy he's made one one Pro Bowl, I believe.

Is that true if you have multiple Super Bowl rings? So there's only – one of the pushbacks is Eli, right? Because Eli – I'm going there, of course. I believe that there's only two quarterbacks that have won two that aren't in. Eli, who's not eligible yet, and there's – I think it's a Raiders quarterback. What's his name that has two that hasn't hasn't won it's on the super bowl and the um in the hall of fame so eli's a great

question because you know he's again he's probably the he's either the worst of the good quarterbacks or the best of the bad quarterbacks that's kind of where eli is right but his playoff runs were legendary he was great in those so was stafford in this one. I think if Stafford gets one more Super Bowl, he's in. Well, obviously then he's in. And so I think one right now, though, probably not. Again, we're going to get in this discussion many times because we're getting to the point in careers now where numbers are so inflated, right?

Yeah, these numbers don't mean anything. So he's going to be the all-time record leader for passing yards. It's going to happen. He's very close to doing that already. He just plays four more years, five more years he's in. Obviously, more Super Bowls will be helpful, but he was never the best player in any year. And longevity to me, and maybe I'm jaded because I got hurt so much,

feels like a luck thing more than anything else. Like Tony Buscelli finally got in the Hall of Fame, all right, and he played, I think, eight years. And he played really three elite years. And he was the first team All-Pro three years in a row in Jacksonville. He was first team All-Pro at the same time four Hall of Famers were playing in Ogden, Pace, Jones, and Roof. Pretty freaking good.

Like, he's the best player that was there for three years. Yeah, he got hurt. Not his fault. But that guy should be in the Hall of Fame over someone who plays 20 years and just kind of is good, in my opinion. He was elite of the elite. He is one of those players. Now, he didn't play very long.

I get that. But if Terrell Davis is in, so is Buscelli. So for Stafford, he plays 20 years, let's say. One Super Bowl. I don't know. No Pro Bowls. Well, one, I should say. No All-Pros.

I don't know. It feels like that's not a Hall of Fame career. Okay. Hall of Very Good. I'm not ready to just sort of go give him the gold jacket, but this is a tease for an over-under question later for you and the audience to think about. Who will end their career with more rings, Matt Stafford or Joe Burrow? We're spotting Matt Stafford won, but, I mean, I thought Joe Burrow had won.

Or, I mean, you can even have fun with Matt Stafford or Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, okay. That's going to be neck and neck. So we'll get to that when we go over under. It could be Burrow lost a Super Bowl after he had already won it. That's weird. I've never heard of anyone doing that. But Tom Brady's probably lost a few Super Bowls he'd already won.

I feel like he wins the Super Bowl every year, and we have to take it back from him sometimes. Yeah, but he also has seven real ones. That's true. He's got a few of those. Sorry. Something we haven't said yet, bless us all for this not coming

up yet, but I feel it's my duty as the spokesperson for TakeMakers out there. You can find an equal number of people who are furious at the refs for a call that was made, as you can find for a call that wasn't made. My take is, who cares? It evened out. The refs

got it wrong twice, and it made no difference in the end. It was a great game it evened out. The refs got it wrong twice and it made no difference in the end. It was a great game. Are you annoyed with the refs in this game? Okay. So the first half, they didn't call anything. They called a false start delay game and the taunting penalty and the Bengals, an active player who was out there celebrating. They really called nothing until the last few minutes of the game when they called the holding. And I thought they were good calls. The lineback was holding cup was it was it a call they had called all game no but he was holding them and the pass interference I thought was a hold as well or pass interference that felt very look like now they hit to cup the helmet to helmet they call I thought was suspect right I mean we're

I don't know what he's supposed to do we're supposed to hit him and so those are you know again you wait to last two minutes to to uh to However, T. Higgins grabbed Jamar Chase's, I mean, not Jamar Chase, Jalen Ramsey's face mask and threw him to the ground on a touchdown pass. The only touchdown the Bengals had in the second half. First play of the second half. That's a bad, blown call. Remember going back to, was it week 17 now, Chiefs-Bengals, right? The refs were bad.

I came on here and said, I don't blame refs for losses. Bengals fans told me, hold this L, stop being a whiny bitch, stop being sensitive. So I don't want to hear from Bengals fans about the officials now. Because y'all told me that I can't complain about them, and I don't. I've been very steadfast with this.

Oh, Chiefs fans, you just want to... Okay, here you go. You can't complain about the referees now, right? You told me I can't complain after Week 17. You can't complain now. And they didn't decide the game, right? So in the end, it didn't matter, right? You got seven points on a blatant face mask.

That would have made it first and 25 if that had been called. Against that defense, which you really had not shown the ability to have, they had three explosive passes, right? They had the one to chase, the one to Higgins on touchdown, then the final drive when Ramsey jumped that route, it was another explosive pass. So you're first and 25, are you scoring on that drive? Probably not. So I don't want to hear about the whining.

I don't want to hear it. Y'all lost. You talked all week for two weeks straight about how you won the Super Bowl already. There was a dynasty building next to Tom Brady and Joe Burrow. You have to eat this one, guys. You have to eat it. Yeah, you do. We're going to get to the Bengals in their future in a second. You just mentioned one other name. I had a few listed out here that we have to speak about. I think it's time that we stop with this conventional wisdom. All you guys who played in the league wanted to tell me with no evidence i would say

is that oh man jalen ramsey oh best cover corner in the league oh man put your best guy on jalen ramsey oh good luck i don't know man i watched him the last three weeks he seems like he gets cooked constantly and every time he looks around like what happened i don't know dude final play the game uh for the bangles chase was open yeah we don't have, dude. Final play of the game for the Bengals, Chase was open. Yeah. He was running out of time. So I think the thing about defense now is it's trying to limit as many supposed to plays as possible.

You're not going to pitch a shot anymore, right? No, there's too many attempts in every direction. It's just are you good enough to do it enough throughout a game? And I think Ramsey's good enough to do it enough throughout a game. And that puts him ahead of other players, right? And plus, he has played very well against other guys as well Chase is very good he's very fast and he just got beat a bunch deep I mean that's what it was right and again one time he was thrown to the ground one time he got beaten clean and then the game got beaten clean again um I I don't I I think that's what defense is now it's not about you're not getting shut down

players you're getting players that're not getting shut down players. You're getting players that some games are shut down. Other games just try to limit explosive plays. And that's really what a corner – I think he's still one of the best corners. He's just – he struggled the last couple of weeks. Mike Evans beat him deep at the end of that game. But if it only happens one time – I know you want to allow touchdown every time it happens. But if it happens four times a year,

that's put you in a league category. Yeah, sure. I mean, I guess I would, as a, of course, long time, you know, well-established Rams fan, I would like for it not to be in the NFC championship game in the Superbowl, but I hear you a few times a year is acceptable. So then let me ask you this. Vegas doesn't like their odds, but obviously here in LA, everyone is excited about the Rams. They just found out they have a team. Now they're sure that the team is going to defend a title next year. They've got a lot of work to do this offseason because they went all in. This was the plan.

They got everyone they could. Every whiner in the NFL found their way to L.A. There's some good stories and some frustrating stories. Somehow this super team is assembled. Now they got to figure out a way to keep enough of it alive while they deal with Odell's injury, losing a bunch of key coaches, a few other free agents who are obviously going to take the payday and walk. You know, there's some stuff to figure out here. So do you think the Rams can come back looking anything like they did at the end of this season? No, it feels unlikely.

I looked this up today. Teams that have been to back-to-back Super Bowls like the last 20 years, it was like Packers in 97, 98, I think. And then it was the Seahawks and the Patriots have done it a bunch. Seahawks and Chiefs. They haven't very often. And you mentioned, right, the Rams are losing probably most likely Andrew Whitworth at left tackle, who has played great this game, right?

He gave one sack and that was when Akers hit him from behind when he was passing. Otherwise, I didn't hear Trey Hendricks was named the entire game. Odell is injured

and a free agent. And if he's even healthy, he's probably not healthy until the end of next season, right? So even if he resigns, you're not going to have him there. You lose your offensive coordinator and I'm sure he's,

I think he's taking some players with him. He's bringing a tight end coach. He's bringing some coaches with him to have him there. You lose your offensive coordinator. And I'm sure he's – I think he's taking some players with him. He's bringing a tight end coach. He's bringing some coaches with him to Minnesota as well. You were the four seed. Yeah. Like, they haven't very often, right? You have, obviously, Wilson in your division still.

Tyler Murray, the Arizona thing is like, come on, guys. Can we get off Instagram doing this stuff? The Niners, who, if they get your boy, Tom Brady – Don't do it. I gave out – I wrote an article for Fox Sports. I gave out my favorite preseason 2022 Super Bowl odds. I was like, hey man, if Tom Brady goes to San Francisco,

let's bring some money on the Niners. So it feels unlikely. It does feel unlikely that it happens again. Everything kind of just fell for them. If the Chiefs or Bills play in this game, are the Rams winners? No, I don't think so.

So let's talk about the Bengals then because they would have to go through either of those two teams. Those are Vegas' current favorites as we head into the offseason. So the Bengals won the Super Bowl. Then it turns out they lost it. But everyone is still absolutely certain that they're ready to take over. Now, I tell you what, though, the take makers that have been saying that today, it's interesting to see them kind of back off. They're cowering a little bit. So here's the argument I've seen a lot since the end of the game last night.

Yeah, but they still have all this cap space. And yeah, but now they're focused on protecting Joe Burrow. Now it's proven because of all the sacks he took. They're going to go get some linemen. They're going to be an attractive place this offseason. We've talked about it the last few weeks. Is all of that BS? Yes and no.

So we talked about this heading in this game, how lucky they have gone in the playoffs. There was a tweet put out that showed, like, they almost went four for four in, like, in the final couple minutes of a game this postseason. The Raiders had the ball first and goal inside the 10, no touchdown. Titans had the ball, I believe it was first and 10, a minute 46 left, needing about 30 yards for a game-winning field goal.

The Chiefs had the ball first and five, a minute left, a minute 30 left, needing five yards for a go-ahead touchdown. And the Rams had the ball first and goal at the nine with a minute 55 left. That was a four for four in those situations. That's not normal. Right. They were okay on defense this year.

At certain points, they were better at some points. But they're just okay on defense. And you mentioned Joe Burrow, who did not have a good playoff run, guys. There's no way around it. It wasn't very good. Jeff, we're doing this in person, so I can comment on this. You're getting a real stink eye from producer Matt as you manhandle the microphone.

The good listeners of this show have been really wrapped in attention, listening to you describe what happened on the field. But right now, they're hearing like crinkly, crunchy sounds because you keep pawing our microphone. Because I keep falling down. So if you start with crunchy sounds, I will not touch the mic anymore. I will lower my body to the mic instead of moving the mic. Lightly push on the stand instead. No, on the – there you go, on the arm.

There we go. Okay, there we go. All right, we're back. We're back, everyone. And Burrow's run in the playoffs was not very efficient. It was one of the lower efficiency runs in the playoffs in 2006. I think Pro Football Focus had that out there. But look, Burrow is an elite talent, okay?

He is, and the Bengals will always have a chance with Joe Burrow. There's no doubt about it. This is not an anti-Joe Burrow take at all. Why can't anyone have a chance with Joe Burrow. There's no doubt about it. This is not an anti-Joe Burrow take at all. Why can't anyone have an anti-Joe Burrow take? Somebody have the balls to go on a TV show and say, this guy's overrated, he believes his own hype, his outfits suck, his glasses are lame. Just say it.

Okay, I'll tell you this. You will have a chance to win every year with Joe Burrow. Would you say Joe Burrow on the Jets? Yeah, I mean, obviously. I would have wanted Joe Flacco to play this year. I mean, come on. So you always have a chance with Joe Burrow. The question becomes, obviously,

they played the easiest schedule pass defenses this year. That's not going to happen next season, of course. The offensive line is a question mark, right? And yes, they have a bunch of cap space. But remember, guys, I know Cincinnati is not a free agency destination. So you have to overpay for players. Even for fat guys on the line, they got good chili there. The offensive line free agency class is not great this year,

especially if the Chiefs franchise Orlando Brown and the Saints bring back Teron Armstead. It's not a great free agency class. You have to draft. You have to draft these guys. And you have to do it. Bjergbo was sacked, what, 69 times, 70 times this season? Nice.

Yeah. And he needs protection. Nice again. And remember, the Chiefs were able to rebuild their offensive line in one year. And that's not normal. Orlando Brown was like the weak link of that offensive line they brought in

Joe Tooney who again was great fit what they did Creed Humphrey Trey Smith so you have to also bring in guys

that fit what you drafted Jackson Carman in the second round couldn't play in the Super Bowl with that bad offensive line

like you have to bring the right guys too also look at their division. Baltimore last year was so incredibly hurt. They're going to be back next season. Yes. And they're going to be back to take that division again. Them and the Bengals have the same odds to win the AFC.

The Browns. I'm not high on Baker Mayfield, but he's going to be better if he's a little healthier. Like, we get that. And then, of course, the Steelers, if they, let's say they get, you know, Kenny Pickett or just someone, some better quarterback, they're always going to have a chance to win. So I just think this run, they're always going to have an opportunity to win each year with Joe Burrow, 100%. But are they going to get back to Super Bowl next year?

Absolutely not. And Matt and I talked about this on our show last week. I'm telling you right now, I will take, if the number's good, we'll see if Vegas prices this right. But Bengals know playoffs next year is what, Matt? Minus, I mean, plus 150 probably? Plus 180? Like, I'm going to wager on that next year.

I'd wager on them not making the playoffs and making the Super Bowl again. Oh, I'm 100% with you. And I think, look, this was an important game. But it's like, I think Trey pointed out, you know, it's hard to get to a Super Bowl, let alone win them. You know, when Dan Marino got there in like his second season, Dan Marino had a Hall of Fame career. But he never got back. Like you don't get these chances very often.

And he's going to be playing in a conference with a few quarterbacks who are better than him, let alone teams that are better than his team. So I think I need to ask this then knowing all that why didn't he just pack like some sweatpants or jeans to put on after the game why did he put that ridiculous outfit back on for the walk of shame out of there i'm not cool enough to know those type of things um he had a backpack he could have just tucked some pants yeah i think the rams players were all like in their little Super Bowl, little white Super Bowl outfits after the game. I don't know, man. Look, the AFC has Mahomes, who in his worst year was a two seed, right?

Completed 40, you know, he had 4,800 yards passing in his worst season in the NFL. Justin Herbert. Oh, my God. I saw Herbert at Super Bowl Radio Road, dude. You don't even – you talk about prototypical size. He's like not even – it's ridiculous. I look him in the eye, dude. He is – he's put together very well.

Sounds very odd to talk about a man in that manner, but he is a good-looking man. Josh Allen is good, right? What if Trevor Lawrence becomes good, right? And, you know, with Doug Pearson there. Lamar Jackson's good. There's a lot of good

quarterbacks in the NFC Conference. So, again, not guaranteed they get back. And everyone always gets upset with me because I'm a Chiefs fan,

obviously. Well, why the Chiefs? They've been to four NFC Championship games. They've played two Super Bowls. They've done it. They've done it year, year, year, year, year. Of course the Chiefs are the favorite. Why would they not be the

favorite? I mean, it'll get boring soon when they're just walking their way to the AFC Championship every year. And so maybe it's the Bengals who challenge them. Maybe it's the Bills who challenge them. Maybe somebody else emerges. I hope it's the Chargers next year. But we'll talk about next year's Super Bowl next year. Let's wrap the first segment here on the most important topic, perhaps the most controversial. The only thing that I am aware of from the last several days that had more hype, higher expectations. Don't do this. I know you're going. I don't like this.

The only thing people were more excited about than Joe Burrow in the Super Bowl was the halftime show. Great halftime show. And much like Joe Burrow, came up a little bit short. I got it, Twitter. I hear you. You loved the halftime show. Did you watch it or were you just paying attention to what was supposed to happen? What didn't you like about the halftime show? Okay. Do you want to hear? Yeah, please.

First of all, why is 50 Cent there upside down? That was, I would have liked there to be a hologram Tupac instead of 50 Cent. Oh, well, that's an easy opportunity. We have the technology. We're in his frigging city. We played his song. We don't want to bring the hologram out. That should have been done.

I'm with you there. Instead, we got a bloated-looking 50 Cent hanging upside down. Thank God he didn't get hurt. 55 Cent. Okay, there's one note. Note number two. And I recognize as I say this, I run the risk of some people taking it the wrong way.

Please don't. Mary J. Blige, great to see you there. Glad you got a song in. What did we need the second song for? Yeah, I will say I was, I watched the Super Bowl back a couple times now. What the hell is that? I just fast- fast throw the second song

my my my finish your finish your critique i'm gonna give you mine on the halftime show well it's just producer mind okay so we just gave away three minutes for 50 cent hanging upside down three minutes for mary j blige's second song was great yeah of course okay so i just found about six minutes maybe i don't, here's a weird idea. I got Snoop Dogg standing over here next to his good pal Eminem. Maybe carve up the six minutes a little differently. If it was me, I would have just done Dre and Snoop and maybe Eminem. Just would have had them.

Let Eminem be the surprise. Or Kendrick Lamar just because he's from LA. Sure, Kendrick was great. He did something cool. That would have been worth it Eminem be the surprise or Kendrick Lamar just because he's from LA sure Kendrick was great he did something cool like that would have been like worth it Mary was her first song was great

I love I was with you like I've watched it back like four or five times now I just fast forward through her second song like I'm just like that's I want to get back

to Dre and Snoop that Dre and Snoop for 15 minutes would have been incredible incredible and everyone would have been fine with that I was curious

if they were going to do all six of them I guess now together they didn't i was curious what that would have been they all came on stage for for the final song i thought eminem was great too right you agree it was it was good yeah but i think it's pretty hard to recapture what lose yourself should feel like and sound like with a live performance in a big open space yeah but the fans loved it they're like oh my this is the song he's got to do this one super bowl lose yourself yeah by the way okay for a second he took that knee okay and i saw him do it i think we all saw him do it i was like oh okay cool like he took it like as part of the broadcast like i didn't think anything of it and then of course of course it was oh my god and my favorite part too was a bunch

of people that tweet out like what a great performance in like five minutes later oh he took a knee screw eminem it's like what who cares who cares it happened for like three seconds and then dre got on the piano i didn't know he could do and and played a verse of changes right that's what he played matt i think we talked about yeah but i mean let's not turn him into no it wasn't i'm a day this year. He hit like four notes. It wasn't a lot. But I thought it was a good halftime show. I can see that the critiques were, I think, fair. 55 cent didn't have to be there. He needs to hit leg day a little bit.

I thought Mary was good. My favorite part, by the way, was just what it did for fans. So my wife was flying yesterday. And she didn't care about football at all. And she texted me during the flight. It was like, hey, when's the, when's the halftime performance? So I text her like, two minute warning, turn on the device in the airplane.

So she watched the halftime show, and was like, wow, like, it was great. Okay, so I talked to her this morning, and she's like, man, that was a great game. And I was like, you watched the second half of the game? She's like, no, no, the halftime show. I was like, what? For people like her, that was what it was about.

I was at a party with, it was basically like parents in their early 50s, late 40s, and then their kids in their early 20s. That's basically what the party was, like the demographic. And all the parents, all the moms were up in that day and the inside just dancing their ass off. Like to the whole halftime show. I've listened to him. I've basically just have rewatched the Snoop and,

and Dre part so far and a little bit, but it was, I thought it was good. It's better than what it's been. Yeah, no question. And so this brings me to another point that I, I'd like to straighten out with the bad takes on Twitter.

So you just described who this show is for. And I realized I was like, oh, crap. And you guys are both a couple of years younger than me. You might not even be that. I was like, oh, my God. All the ads, all the decisions about casting. It's all now for me. A dude in his 40s with some spending power all the references in every ad everything i saw all it was like my sweet spot and what did i see on twitter this is old what is this oldie show shut up all the songs were from like early 2000s it was like right yeah it was like right in our wheelhouse awesome yeah um no it was it was i didn in our wheelhouse. Cause it's awesome! Yeah.

Um, no, it was, it was, I didn't know it was that. Did you, did you click on the Coinbase, uh, um, QR code? No, I'm not ever gonna. And the next celebrity tries to sell me on crypto. Dude, that got like 20 million hits. Yeah. My wife was one of them. Yeah.

We were at this party and all these dudes were like, all, all at the 25 year olds were like, oh my God, what is that QR code? I was like, I'm not doing that to the TV. What are we doing out here? How fast can I let some foreign country's intelligence service into my phone? Here goes. Oh, yeah, they can have our phones anytime they want. So that's a bold halftime take.

But I thought it was better than what it's been. I'll put it like that. All right. And now, last thing before we go back to some football. You were in town we had a nice dinner with you and our friend trey wingo and some other people on the blue duck team it was great then we didn't see you for a few nights you were off at all the parties how did your party scene go oh okay so um i'll go backwards uh we went to tiesto oh boy and it was 50 cent and then it's Loud Luxury, which I think is just like a filler DJ. And then it was Tiesto.

And we missed 50. We got there too late. Wait, so 50 isn't even the closer at this party? Someone named Tiesto is more famous than him, yet he got in the halftime show? Yes. Logic of that. So it was a ton of fun. My wife had the best time ever.

I haven't taken a picture. I was sitting on the couch just by myself while she was just dancing. We know what this looks like, Jeff. You don't need to show us the picture. Where did it go? I had a picture of me sitting on the couch. I guess I don't know. Oh, here it is right here.

See? Just on the couch. Just by myself. Back corner. Just throwing up the shotgun for us. In the back corner. It was good. Saturday, Friday night, I went to bed.

I went to a bowling party, Lucky Strike. So the thing about Super Bowl parties is, like, they're just so random. So, like, I saw a couple former offensive linemen there. Donald Penn, who is from L.A. I was going to talk to him for a little bit. Mike Tyson was there. At a bowling party? Yeah.

So it was the pumps party with, the lakers were involved so like byron scott was there um um and then paul pierce was there rip hamilton just like random nba players dave winfield was there yes now we're talking it was like random sports it was also this he had to be seven six i don't know dude no. He was young. I wasn't playing obviously in the NBA moment I guess or maybe he had an off day. And then Ed Orgeron was there. So I said hi

to Ed Orgeron. He recruited me to USC. So it was good to say hi to Ed. The best part about that by the way so I'm kind of standing like it's Ed and his assistant

Derek who I've talked to a couple times before. I'm kind of just like waiting to kind of just say hi. And I could tell people there was this tie table and Ed was there. I'm not sure they were even with Ed Orgeron. I'm kind of just like waiting to kind of just say hi and I could tell people there were, so it was like this tie table

and Ed was there. I'm not sure they were even with Ed or Geron. I could see them like looking up me like they were on their phones like this. Like I kind of caught them

there like looking at their phone looking at me. Trying to figure out who you were before you came over? And then you could see they were like, they would shake their heads

like no, that's not him. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun it was a lot of fun so that was that was a good party that my Debbie thanks

got me into that one Debbie did my agent and so that was that was a fun party Thursday night what was Thursday night oh we didn't do much Thursday night

so my wife had gone to town what did I do Thursday I had to drive back to to downtown and then I what did I do Thursday? I had to drive back to downtown. And then I, what did I do Thursday? I don't remember anymore. I have a guess.

Well, no, well, I did, yeah, but I don't remember what I did before the scootering. Well, tell us about that because Jeff,

you got us a little nervous. Oh yeah, it was bad. When you told the group thread that you were scooting your way home and then 11 miles. So I went, I went on, so yeah, I went to a cigar party. That's what I did. So I was, we were between hotels. You were scooting your way home, and then 11 miles on the scooter. I went to a cigar party. That's what I did.

So we were between hotels. The JW was where I was staying for a couple nights, and my wife was at the Citizen M, which is like on Spring Street, Spring and 4th. It's like one block. I live here, and I don't even know what you're talking about. It's one block away from where you don't want to be. All right. So I was like, I'm not going to Uber.

I'm going to get one of these scooters which i'd been on before so i got i got the app i got on the scooter i just started i scooted six miles that night i went to my cigar party and then i scootered to dinner with my agent and then i scootered so my wife gets it slow down this is important you're scootering yeah through like the most like city-like streets now a lot of people are picturing the scooters are a lot of fun you're scootering yeah through the most like city-like streets now a lot of people are picturing the scooters are a lot of fun you're at the beach no there's a bike lane you're in like downtown busy downtown la traffic at night at night and you are an offensive lineman size person on a scooter yeah so i scooted from i'll shoot it from her hotel back to my hotel, then back to the first party,

then to dinner with my agent. And then, so then she texted me and said, hey, I'm at the Wolf. Her friend was in town. So I'm at the Wolf just having a drink. I said, cool. So I looked up, it was Wolf and Crane. Cool.

So I scooted like a mile and a half to Wolf and Crane. Turns out that's not the bar she was at. She was at the bar called The Wolves. Just forgot to tell me that there was a different spelling to that so i'm like oh geez so i get back on my scooter again and i start going to this place called the wolves and i realized a couple couple minutes into my scooter ride probably not a place i want to be um there were no lights really there were no lights, really. There were no cars. There were no humans walking around. It was a bunch of tents. And again, vacant buildings, not a good part of town.

I realized I should probably get to Major Street pretty soon. So I eventually made it to the bar and looked up. And it's just literally in the heart of Skid Row. I took it's the map. Like I drew, traced my map path, like just right through Skid Row to the scooter. And hey man, I didn't know any better. Again, I realized pretty quickly,

I'm like, I shouldn't be here. Let me try to find a way to get out of this situation. And I made my way out of the situation as quick as possible. But it was Matt over here. It's incredibly... Here's the thing, Jeff. What probably saved you is that you were obviously marked the whole time. There were plenty of people with bad intentions

who could have pulled some lost tourist off their scooter in the middle of Skid Row. But you, sir uh would not be the person that i was also going like 12 miles an hour it wasn't like they could just like grab me really quickly i was just like zooming i mean zooming by yeah matt is pointing out of off my you on a scooter going 12 13 miles an hour is dangerous in its own no no no no so extreme athlete and i sometimes like i sometimes stopped without the brake i just like hop off and like grab the scooter like i just like i didn't want to use the brake sometimes i just kind of like there was like jump off and just like i just

hold the scooter up in the air it would just stop so um elite elite scooter skills like i was impressed with myself i didn't even come close to crashing not once all right well i'm glad you survived the parties and your ridiculous scoot rides i don't know how much more there is to say but we always do a little over under game on this show so why don't we do it super quick when we come back uh moving the line is next all right jeff we're back it's time to move the line our over under game we'll go back to the Super Bowl for a minute. We'll do some off-season storylines, maybe a little more fun stuff. Let's keep it quick. We sort of talked about this.

Joe Burrow, career Super Bowl rings, over-under. Matthew Stafford, Super Bowl rings. Matthew obviously now has one. I think the best option would be a push, right? They both get one. They both get one, yeah. That feels like the best option. I mean, again, look at what Burrows has to go through.

I mean, Stafford has an easier path in the NFC. We have aging Rodgers, who might not even be. I mean, I think he'll be a packer. But if Rodgers gets traded to Denver, who's in the way for Matt Stafford? If Aaron Rodgers leaves the NFC and Tom Brady stays retired, two enormous ifs, then you definitely want to be in the NFC for the next five years. Yes.

Here's a question then about Joe Burrow. And I saw a little bit of this. I saw people throwing this take around a little bit and it felt really, even I would say like that's not fair to Joe Burrow or the team because they've had such a great run. But somebody was like, yeah, this guy's not going to stay in Cincinnati. As soon as he has a chance to go somewhere else, he's out of there. And then people fire back. He's from Ohio, blah, blah, blah.

Like Cincinnati is basically Kentucky, not Ohio in my mind. But like, are we sure Joe Burrow is going to try to make a career in Cincinnati? It depends the next three years. Right. And Carson Palmer got a lot of Cincinnati? It depends the next three years, right? And Carson Palmer got a lot of heat for this during the week. He got on the radio and said, like, hey. He was the one who kickstarted some of this. He's like, hey, like, are the Bengals going to pay for the assets needed?

Are they going to do what they did to me or what they did to Andrew Luck? Are they going to do what they should do, which is build around Joe Burrow? I don't think it's a guaranteed that he's going to stay, but I think that i hope they realize how special he can be and build around him yeah i would just say push right i think it's fair to say one is good i mean look i thought the chiefs would have two or three by now they have one yeah it's hard to win that's true it is hard to win all right so then this guy got his first ring in his second attempt.

You mentioned all the reasons why Sean McVay might not really deserve that much credit. History will forget that. But over under 10% chance this McVay maybe retiring nonsense is in any way real. This has been bouncing around a little bit. It sounded ludicrous to me. So there's a little bit of truth to it, but I don't know how much he's really thinking about it. He is a guy who everyone says is an absolute grinder.

He's there all hours of the day, and it just might be very stressful for him. And maybe he needs to take a little bit of a break. We've seen a couple coaches do this. We saw John Gruden obviously retire early. We saw, you can go back to Dick Vermeule, just became a Hall of Famer. He retired very early, then came back to coaching. John Madden obviously very famously was like,

I'm out of here. I'm going to go be a broadcaster. Tony Romo and Bill Belichick have been the same amount of money. Like, there's money to be had. If that's what your concern is, I'm not going to get paid enough. Well, there's plenty of money to be had in broadcasting. I don't see him as a broadcaster though do you i don't he i don't know i talk fast he talks really fast and on tv that does not play very well um i think he wants a new deal obviously i think he had a year or two left on his deal that feels it feels very much

like a leverage play to pay i want more money um he just feels too young to retire now if they win let's say one one more Super Bowl in the next four or five years, okay, cool. Maybe he's out after that. But again, you look at the rest of the NFC. Who is he going to fear? Like, this is a great time. Well, the NFC has almost,

who's a young quarterback in the NFC where you're like, that guy? No, I don't see it in the NFC other than maybe Kyler Murray, but that's a whole other meltdown that's happening. It's Shanahan and whoever becomes his quarterback are the thing to be afraid of. Right, but Trey Lance might not be that guy. No, he might not be that guy.

Well, McVay's deal is up after next season. He renegotiated, got an extension a few years ago right after that great run to the Super Bowl. I think it's probably an agent or somebody saying. Stan Kroenke is worth like $11 billion. He can get a new deal. So he's right now the fourth highest paid coach. By the way, is E. Stanley Kroenke one of the best undernames of all time? That's a very owner name.

Anytime you go with a first letter as just an initial instead of your actual name, it means you've got a few dollars. No, no. I think his name is actually E. Stanley Kroenke. What? Yes. That's his actual name. You're saying his parents just quit at the letter E? I think Matt's going to E. Stanley Kroenke. What? Yes. That's his actual name. You're saying his parents just quit at the letter E? I think.

Matt's going to look it up right now. Enos. Oh, Enos. Okay. Because they had it up there. They had it on the thing like E. Stanley Kroenke. Not like. So it's Enos?

Enos. E-N-O-S. Okay. E-N-O-S. Yeah. That would be great. I think E would be even better. I mean, does anyone just have all letter as a name

did Elon Musk name his kid like well alright come on weird Elon Musk some like bunch of letters

numbers Jeff we didn't get into any of this yet feels like the right time to tee up the conversation about ads so over under which you loved more

I don't know how that makes sense with an over under what did you like better the Sopranos ad or the Austin Powers ad I didn't know how that makes sense with an over under. What did you like better? The Sopranos ad or the Austin Powers ad? I didn't see any commercials. What?

What is that? I was at the party and every time there was a commercial, I went to eat, went to the bathroom, texted some people, looked at some stuff on Twitter. Like,

I just didn't watch commercials. I need to go watch them back. But I, I've got off the commercial thing a while. I don't, that's your, I know you love it, right? That's like your't watch commercials. I need to go watch them back. But I, I've got off the commercial thing a while. I don't, that's your, you, I know you love it, right? That's like your domain. Sure. I mean, why not? I think we all do. If the commercials would have been like offensive line players, I probably would have watched a little bit more, but I didn't watch it, but I didn't watch any commercials. Did you wager on any commercials? Was there a commercial

where there were wages for commercials? There were bets you could make. I wasn't a part of that. I don't think Matt was. What was your favorite commercial? I think these ads that just were speaking to my youth were right in line with what I was hoping for. So the Austin Powers ad was great. The Sopranos ad was awesome. I heard Larry David had one. Larry had an ad which made me very conflicted because it was Larry being funny, but then it ultimately was a crypto ad. So even Larry's getting in on this scam, which is surprising to me. was a crypto ad. So even Larry's getting in on this scam, which is surprising to me. You know, the Matthew McConaughey ad for Salesforce that was basically just trolling every other enormous company on earth. That one I liked. Yeah. You know, it was a pretty good.

I was glad that the ads were, again, trying to be silly and star studded. There were only about like three things, you know, like hard seltzers, crypto and electric cars. Hard seltzer. At this party, again, all the women there, there was obviously the moms and like the kids, right? And the kids or their girlfriends or whoever it was. They're all like, I would guess like 25-ish. Every single girl of that age brought a pack of hard seltzer to the party. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. It was white claws and whatever else. Just, like, very typical. Like, my wife would bring wine. She's, like, 36. No, she's 23. And, you know, it just was funny. Like, they were, like, it was just all hard seltzer.

It was packs and packs and packs of hard seltzer. I wanted, they's no caffeine there. It's the only thing that I didn't like about the party. I need some caffeine in my life at that point. Yeah, we watched you gas two coffees at dinner so you could go home and go to bed the other night. Oh, and I went right to bed, too. There's no effect on me.

It's insane. Once it gets past a certain time, the caffeine, I don't think it even works. All right, Last couple here. This one has some actual football in it. Over under 50% chance Aaron Rodgers gets a deal done with the Packers and keeps playing there. I think over. I think, again, I went back to this, what I said last year, right?

Is that where is he going to go to have the same success? Denver with the Chiefs and Herbert and Carr in that division? I don't think that doesn't feel like a fit between him and Arians. See, the thing about Arians and Tom Brady works, so Arians is kind of a looser coach, right? Like, you know, he lets the players go and coaches go early in the day. And he's like, if you're not home by 7, you're doing it wrong. Tom Brady's a grinder, right?

Kind of that marriage kind of worked, right? If you have two of those type of attitudes, like, I think Rodgers tries hard, but like the attitude of like, I just don't think that's a good match. Aaron Rodgers to Nashville, there's talk about that possibly because they need to upgrade their quarterback.

Pittsburgh? But yeah, I mean, yes, all those are possibly possible. But I think that the Green Bay looks at what the Rams did and say, hey, let's go a little bit more all in. Yeah. And try to win a championship. Obviously, it's very – we see this in the NFL. Packers need a number two wide receiver.

The Chiefs need one. We saw what the Rams with and without Odell. It's important to have a number two. And they've got to find that, help the defense a little bit more. I think he stays. Okay. Then if that's the case, I saw an interesting take I shared with the group. I didn't get your opinion on it yet what about jordan love trade value then because if you do

re-sign him which is like what they never did with farve they were never like okay brett we'll sign a long-term deal with you now forget this aaron rogers kid they always like out of the year and out of the year if they say okay aaron you're here till 2026 or whatever it would be you got to get something for jordan love who's still younger than some of the quarterbacks who'll be drafted this year yeah i think i think you do um and you obviously have to then admit you were wrong yeah which is really hard for general managers to do. But the best ones are able to do that. And if they trade Love, then you're obviously admitting you're wrong.

Yeah. But also, too, is he better than, I'm not even sure who the class of quarterbacks is even next year. The Packers bet wrong. They bet on Rodgers' decline, physical decline, which hasn't happened. You have to admit your loss and probably trade him. And that would obviously make Rodgers probably want to stay a little bit more. Or it worked perfectly and they motivated him by picking the kid.

Also, no championships, so it hasn't worked out yet. All right. Okay, speaking of championships, let's wrap up where we start every season. Who's going to win? So over under 99% chance you are already placing action on the Chiefs to win next year at plus 700. They're the favorite. I haven't yet.

It's them and the Bills. Chiefs have some work to do. Chiefs need a pass rusher. Not getting one at 30, probably. They need help in the secondary. They need a pass rusher. Not getting one at 30, probably. They need help in the secondary. They need a possible left tackle. If Orlando Brown's not there, they need a two-wide receiver. There's some work to be done, but

I mean, this is the first year, I think, in Andy Reid's career they were under their win total, and they still won 12 games. Like, they're going to be good next year, guys. And the motivation of the way that game ended is going to sit with them for a long time. I think that that will motivate them, hopefully, to not have so many of those lapses during games

where it's just like, what is going on with the Chiefs right now? If they play consistent play, they'll win 14 games next year. And again, they're going to have Buffalo. They're going to have the Bengals again. Bengals fans this morning on Twitter were like, oh, you'll be 0-3 against the Bengals next year, Chiefs. I'm like, okay, congratulations. Like, you didn't win a Super Bowl.

Who cares? The Goals win a Super Bowl. You talk all this shit and you didn't win a Super Bowl. I don't care. Oh, my God, you beat the Chiefs next year. Okay, congratulations. They lost to the Raiders two years ago. Like, whatever.

It's like so silly to me. Like, just the Goals win a championship. Talk all that shit, win a championship talk all that shit win a championship and this again not at all directed at the Bengals players

I will say though however Eli Apple we've been exchanging messages on Eli Apple so Eli Apple likes to run his mouth and he talked I just hit the mic again

sorry Matt he talked a lot of shit after the Chiefs game like a lot he also called New Orleans like a piece of shit excuse my language yeah he did

he did dude Chiefs players I saw Lamar Jackson go after him like a lot. He also called New Orleans like a piece of shit. Excuse my language. Yeah, he did. He did. Dude, Chiefs players, I saw Lamar Jackson go after him. Saints players, Wendell Pierce. Yeah, oh yeah,

Bunk. Who plays Bunk on the wire. Like, they roasted Eli Apple. Like, there was a

meme going around of a picture of a burnt toast with Eli Apple's Like, there was a meme going around of a picture of a burnt toast with Eli Apple's number on it. And he talked a lot after the Chiefs game. And McColl Hardman just went out. He put Super Bowl ring up and was like, hey man, nice try.

Give yourself one of these. And that's a nice full circle way to end this football season. You woke up McColl hardman by saying that they needed a second receiver in kansas city you were his inspiration and now he is paying it forward to eli apple to be a little bit better next year to maybe get the bengals across the finish line against your chiefs so you know it could all come full circle. I don't know what amount of money or odds I would need to bet on Rams-Bangles Super Bowl in 2021.

Nobody could have seen it coming. And I think next year, this is an odd NFL year, man. A lot of weird things happen. I wonder if next year becomes more normal. Like, just kind of like the normal things happen in the season. Now, without Tom Brady, it might be different. But if Tom's on the Niners, obviously things will be different with San Francisco.

Maybe your Jets will be back, back to being good. But yeah, it was a great season, everyone. I had a lot of fun covering it and we go right to draft. Like I filmed big boys club pretty soon and we go right into combine season, draft season.

And before we know it, it'd be the summer and we're starting up again. Yep. And you know what starts a week before the NFL season? The college football season. With my USC Trojans. The preseason championship favorites. The best team on the West Coast. The Lincoln Riley USC Sooners.

We are coming for you, big man. I will be fading USC the entire season. It will be very fun. Their win total is going to be like 9.5. Over. That's high. Give me the over. Yeah, sure.

They're going to win 9.5 games with that roster. All right, guys. Power of the Varsity Podcast Network. It is me, Jeff Schwartz. Matt Ford here, being the associate producer. And Gabe Goodwin. We will talk to, guys. Power of the Varsity Podcast Network. It is me, Jeff Schwartz. Matt Ford here, being the associate producer. And Gabe Goodwin. We will talk to you guys later this week. Take care, everyone.