Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - The Greatest Weekend of College Football and Geoff’s Top Six Teams after CFB Week 7

Episode Date: October 11, 2021

Gabe joins Geoff to sift through the aftermath of a crazy week of college football that set the record for the most Top 25 upsets. Georgia claims the top spot in Geoff’s top six, but the rest of the teams are much harder to figure out. Ohio State is fighting their way back to relevancy after an early-season loss, and what can we realistically expect from Michigan down the stretch?Geoff explains why it's too early to worry about Bama, and wonders what Rattler’s benching will mean for his NIL deals. Gabe thinks Iowa’s stadium is the hardest place to play in the country, but Geoff doesn’t think the Hawkeyes are as good as they look. Plus, a look at Geoff’s top Heisman candidates (Youn, Corral, Robinson) and a few more hot players to keep an eye on.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

it's monday october 11th i'm jeff schwartz alongside gabe goodwin this is jeff schwartz is smarter than you we're powered by the varsity podcast network it is our college football show and wow what a weekend of college football from start to finish it was the best weekend of the year so far we've had the most top 25 upsets in college football history i believe they keep happening and they keep and they're, and we have a year full of parity. It feels like a year where a 12-team playoff would have been nice. We would have, I think, just maybe some better matchups, some upsets. I don't feel that way most years, but this year feels that way.

Gabe, your Trojans lost at home to Utah for the first time in 100 years. How about that? How about that for this weekend? Chefs here wasting precious seconds on the best college football weekend, maybe the best sports weekend of our recent lives. We do not need to talk about USC, who are right now the fifth or sixth most relevant team in LA at best. I don't know, maybe the Galaxy or somebody.

Is Chargers one? You think Chargers or Rams? What do you think? Well, it's never not Dodgers. Yeah, Dodgers, Lakers, Chargers, Rams? What do you think? Oh, baby. Well, it's never not the Dodgers. Yeah, Dodgers, Lakers, Chargers, Rams. It's all up there, baby. Let's talk about college ball, man. What a weekend.

It was a fantastic weekend. Upsets all over the place. And I just think we have like one good team, really. One good side of the ball, essentially, really? And Georgia's defense, I don't know. Each week. And are we certain Georgia's not going to lose? They play Kentucky and Florida the next two weekends.

So it's a wild, it was a wild weekend. Upsets, like I said, all over the place. And let's get right to our top six we do each week. I told you guys, about this time of year, right? We're going to start leveling out. We're We'll start having the top teams up here. You know, we kind of early in the season put UCLA like at four because they beat LSU, and Orgeron's gone. There's no way he makes it through the season. They might only win five or six games. The number one's Georgia, right? Their defense, again, incredible offensively. Again,

Stenson Bennett, JT Daniels, I'm not sure they're a great passing attack, but they're doing enough offensively on the offensive line, obviously, rushing the football, but defensively, Gabe, unbelievable on defense. And they continue against Auburn to be just as unbelievable. Now we get to number two, okay? And I could do the thing where I'm just going to say, hey, Alabama is still the second best team in the country even with their loss to A&M but I won't do it right now we'll talk about that in a second I'll give Iowa a slight nod but I Iowa fans so my high school football coach had a great saying Gabe he said don't lie said, don't lie to yourself. Don't lie to yourself, okay? Obviously, we know what that means, right?

Deep down, we know what the truth is. And Iowa fans, you know what the truth is. You're not that good, okay? You're great on defense, and offensively, you're just blah. And you would have got your ass kicked if Clifford played that entire game. Penn State was up 17-3, and you were doing nothing until Clifford got hurt, and that poor Penn State backup quarterback had no chance to win the game. How about this game? Iowa's tied for fourth in the country in total number of punts.

They punted 40 times this year. New Mexico State has punted 43 times. The record of the nine other teams is 12-45, and Iowa's 6-0. All right? Now, Iowa's schedule sets up pretty well for them. They could be undefeated against Ohio State, who's playing some really good football. They've improved since that Oregon game.

So, Iowa's 2. We'll go Bearcats 3, Cincinnati. They're just plugging along. They had a great opportunity for a letdown week. They went and smashed Temple like 52-3, I believe, on Friday night. So I'll give the Bearcats here a little bit of love.

Number four, kind of... I'll... You're so anguished over this. Just say the words. I'll put Oklahoma here for now. There it is. Because they're 6-0. Because they're 6-0.

Obviously, an incredible comeback to beat Texas. Ben Spencer-Rattler. And we're going to get a little bit of a discussion about a name engine like this in a few minutes because Spencer-Rattler's benching brings up an interesting topic that no one wants to talk about, really. But it's very true what's happening

in college sports with NIL. We'll go five Alabama, and we'll go six Ohio State. So that's how we'll do it right now. Ohio State's playing some good football right now. They've kind of overcome their defensive issues. Offensively, C.J. Stroud is kind of hitting some form now. He's obviously a first-time starter. We'll see some better reps out of him, some better games.

So I'll do that. I think Bama's the second-best team in the country still. first-time starter. We'll see some better reps out of him, some better games. So I'll do that. I think Bama's the second-best team in the country still. I think Penn State and Iowa played again. If Sean Clifford was healthy, they'd win that game. But that's what happens, right? It happens. Your quarterback gets hurt, and you don't win.

So Kentucky 6-0. They're playing some good football as well. Michigan 6-0, beating Nebraska. God, Nebraska just can't get out of their own way sometimes. Adrian Martinez playing some good football as well. Michigan 6-0, beat Nebraska on. God, Nebraska just can't get out of their own way sometimes. Adrian Martinez fumbled at the very end. And that's my top six, Gabe. I feel like you can't complain about this six. No, no.

I guess I could probably quibble with the order a little bit. And we're going to do the things I think I learned so you can sort of make me a little smarter in a moment. So some of those teams will come up in depth. but I guess I'll just ask about a few others so Kentucky we know their biggest game of the year is looming but they do have a 6-0 record right now you're not considering them in that sixth spot ahead of Ohio State sitting at five and one not yet not yet um I think they're they're close so they. So they beat Florida two weekends ago. They beat LSU, obviously. LSU's above there, but they're at Georgia this weekend.

So after that game, by the way, and the problem is that if they lose to Georgia, they don't have any chance to play in the SEC championship game because they'll lose a tiebreaker to Georgia. But they have Mississippi State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, New Mexico State, Louisville. I mean, they're looking at a legit 10-win season. Mark Stoops is doing some great things there.

They deserve praise for how well they're playing. Okay. I don't want to ask about Coastal Carolina, even though they also have a perfect record. Michigan State, perfect record. SMU, perfect record. York and Ducks are still hanging around, probably going to win their conference.

Let's just spend one more minute on Michigan, though, because they're not going to come up in this next section. So the quarterback doesn't turn the ball over. I know they're playing some close games, maybe closer than they should, but they run like crazy. They seem like a tough team. I do wonder at what point you're bumping them into that top six, because some of these teams are going to knock each other off so far they played a schedule void of really any good teams right i mean washington's not good the tough stretch is coming i know they have michigan state indiana penn state and maryland ohio state to end yeah um obviously a win against michigan state would uh would propel them up there. Mel Tucker's squad's playing well, man.

Mel Tucker obviously went from Colorado after a year to Michigan State. They're doing some good things there, so good for him. They'll get there soon enough. But, I mean, Nebraska had that ball to drive down the field to kick a game-winning field goal, and Martinez, oh my God, what was he doing? Just go down, man. There's no need to get those extra yards in the situation. So Michigan's living well. Again, we'll see in two weeks.

I think that game is going to be East Lansing at the Spartans, and we'll see what they're really made of. Yeah. All right, so to recap your top six as of this week, and it's always based on what we've seen so far. You have Georgia at number one. Iowa, you barely wanted to do it, but you put them at number two. Cincy, because how can you not?

OU, you really hated saying it, but after that went over Texas. Then Bama at five, and Ohio State just lingering at six. But I'm guessing that their rankings, if the playoff were next week, would be like almost the inverse of that. I think if the playoff were next week would be like almost the inverse of that uh so i think the playoff for next week bm would still be in um and again i mean do you want to just get the topic one now and do this yeah i say we just get to the things that i think i learned so let's take a two second break in case we want to put one here and we'll come right back all right we're back. Jeff, these are the things I think I learned,

and now I want to dig a little deeper on that A&M-Bama game. So it was awesome. I mean, if you were watching the end of that game, I was here with my in-laws who are British, who didn't know what the heck was going on. They didn't know who the home team was. They didn't know the significance of Alabama losing, and I was walking them through what it was going to be like

if the kicker named Small hit one. And, the field erupted they were loving it yeah all-time great moment in College Station who by the way pay back all the nasty things people were tweeting about the weirdness of College Station all week long well good for you Texas A&M that said this doesn't mean crap like you already pointed out they're still going to be the two seed when it all you know all comes out in the wash they'll probably beat Georgia in the SEC championship game I don't think this matters at all but their defense stunk especially their secondary so Jeff give me some shred of hope that Bama's beatable when it counts well i mean when it counts i mean they're they were beatable last night or you know they they just they um had a lot of issues on the offensive line of communication

with pressures right a and m did a great job of confusing the protection unit including bryce on the quarterback no adjustments were made they got free runners runners at Bryce Young. And, you know, the run game is just off. Like, they just don't pound teams. They do too much RPOs, too much sideway stuff. They have guys that just run up the middle of guys. There were drops and misses and pressures and things like that. And defensively, look, let's be fair. They're not really like, they haven't been as good as the early 2010s defense

in four years. But the difference is their offense gets like five yards of drive, five points per drive, which was incredible last year, right? And they basically are in a situation where they're always up by 21 points. And when you're up by 21 points,

your defense simply plays better. You know, they're only going to pass the ball. You have pass rushers who are going to go to the NFL every year. So I'm not worried about Bama because they typically don't lose two games in a year. But, you know, they have a tougher schedule than does Georgia. And they have to find answers on offense for these pressures.

People will try to attack them now, knowing what they can do with their pressure schemes. Yeah. And Jimbo Fisher, first former former saving assistant to pull off a win that's worth noting 24 and 1 now yeah so I texted you right as the game was winding down and I basically said wow amazing game but Bama's kind of the chiefs right like whatever happens now doesn't really make a difference until January. Except that that secondary isn't any good. I saw a couple guys on islands just get totally smoked by players who have no NFL future. By a quarterback who, you know, looked tough. He was able to play like his best game ever, yeah.

Played a great game. And good for him. He came back that final, the final moments he was injured and he's running for a meaningful yardage. Like he played his butt off. But how do those guys look so exposed? I just don't understand how a bunch of NFL caliber players are getting beat by randos at A&M. Look, the thing about sports, I know it's any given Sunday.

We see a lot in the NFL. We'll get to NFL show tomorrow. But like sometimes you're just not as good. There was a discussion about, you know, who was talking about some cultural team yesterday and their backup quarterback. Oh, Penn State. And someone was like, well, Oklahoma just put in a new guy

and their offense was good. I'm like, not everyone has good players. Like some years, you're just not going to be as good as other years. It doesn't mean Saban doesn't know how to coach. It doesn't mean the scheme's not good. And maybe these guys are NFL players eventually, but sometimes they're just,

they have a bad game. They're 18, 22 years old. They're going to, they're going to, you're young kids, right? Like we see more stadiums in the NFL because we're pros. We know,

but young kids went up and down, right? I mean, maybe his, his girlfriend's mad at him this week, or he had a tough school went up and down right I mean maybe his his girlfriend's mad at him this week or he had a tough school week you know I mean like it just it's a weird thing with college kids and so um I don't unless I see this again then I'll think it's an issue now against Florida the second half the defense wasn't as good but otherwise

defense been fine so um I'm not concerned till I see it again. All right. Well, I mean, I think something to be said for the fans there. We're going to get to Iowa a little bit more soon. Other than Iowa, College Station did look like the most ridiculous place you could possibly try to play a game. So, you know, that's worth a few points, and a few points was what it took. You mentioned Oklahoma, so let me use that as a segue because I want to spend some time on this game. Here's what I think I learned about the Oklahoma game.

Basically, any guy that Lincoln Riley coaches and calls his quarterback is a Heisman contender instantly. I could play quarterback at Oklahoma and look like an NFL player. It was insane what happened in that game. I can't even list all the facts of this. Texas jumps way out, and then Oklahoma completes a comeback after benching its Heisman-contending starting quarterback. Now they're into, like, freshmen running all over the place. They lose.

Oklahoma looks ridiculous. You have had to admit that they're a top-four team now. Caleb Williams is the star, the freshman quarterback. But I think what I learned is that Oklahoma's better than you thought they were. They're better offensively than I thought they were. And part of that is the offensive line. I talked to one of the former offensive linemen, Gabe Eicher, who's in Oklahoma City and covers the team and whatnot.

He was explaining to me last week that they kind of switch up the scheme a little bit to help more zone, less kind of power concepts and again talk about you know the alabama game you asked me like why is it why they're just not as good well they lost a lot of guys in the nfl like they have young players learning the position haven't played very much and sometimes you're just not as good one year and the thing about spencer rattler so interesting because i mean he was supposed to be like the top pick in the draft. And now he's going to be playing like at Arizona next year as a transfer. I mean, he's not getting the job back. He's not going to the NFL.

I mean, I guess he could, but who's going to draft him? He'll be somewhere else next year. Interesting because I feel like our show would have been, does Lincoln Riley have an issue developing quarterback talent? Because his best quarterbacks have all been transfers. That's right. And now that Williams has played well for half, I mean, that's one of the guys he brought in. But Spencer Riley was supposed to be the guy, right?

The guy that he brought in specifically to run his offense. And it hasn't been as good. And obviously, Williams played well in the second half. Texas just shit the bed as usual. Sorry, Hank. They in the second half. Texas just shit the bed as usual. Sorry, Hank. They're not back again. I mean, there's no excuse to lose that game. I mean, there really is none.

And they got tight in the fourth quarter. And obviously, Oklahoma runs in for a touchdown to win the game. So, I like their offense. It looks a little bit better. Defensively, I thought they were improved. But I don't know. Are they after last week? I mean, one of those scores was a punt block, right?

Essentially, the ball was like at the one-yard line. So some defense issues still. Offensively, again, there. And we'll see how Williams does. I think Williams is now the starter, and Rattler will end up somewhere else. And for a guy, again, who had like the first huge NIL deal, for a guy who was supposed to be the number one pick. We'll see. Not going to happen probably. I want to ask you about NIL in a second,

because I think there's some interesting sort of sidebars on this. But so Hank, who goes to Texas, told me that basically the kids who, when they were gloating, when they thought, you know, they score four touchdowns in the first quarter, They think they're going to run away with this and knock off Oklahoma. And they start chanting for Caleb Williams. And then he goes in there and he, you know, lights them up. And the chant turns back into bring in Rattler. That's really funny. Yeah, they figured out a way to troll, I guess, themselves and Oklahoma all at once.

But you mentioned Rattler. And he's a strange one, right? So he's one of the kids who gets a whole bunch of money through this new, you know, new system with NIL. And it's too complicated to explain to people, but basically he can earn and he can earn because he's supposed to be a superstar on a big team. But now he's going to be on the bench. He's obviously worth a whole lot less in marketing value, forget as a human and as a, you know, future NFL player. But right now to whoever wants to put their name next to him, it isn't worth the same. So what do you think happens to guys like him?

And by the way, a few other Heisman contenders we thought, DJ, D'Eric, guys like really aren't earning the paycheck for marketers. So this is pretty interesting because we discussed NIL a lot, right, heading into the season. And we discussed how it may or may not change college sports. As of right now, it's been a positive that players are getting money all over the spectrum, right? Whether it's college football players, college basketball players, Olympic sport players, you know, BYU, all the walk-ons have a deal.

Like, it's been great. But the top guys,encer rattler dj ugalele at at clemson i butchered that name every single time i'm sorry it took me a year that's why i just said dj i thought people would know it took me a year to learn tango by loa figure that one we got that one down um and then um uh derrick king of miami Miami not playing well at all. And even a small, like Kayvon Thibodeau to Oregon, he got a ton of deals, right?

He's got an NFT deal with Nike. He has a deal with United Airlines and whatnot. And he's been hurt. But they're not getting that return on investment, I think. Quinn Ewers is supposed to be have a million dollar deal at ohio state not playing at all right you see the child's playing well he's gonna have to transfer if he wants to play maybe he's not gonna play next year um and so a couple things i always question what the return on investment was for these companies

anyways and maybe they don't really care about that right they just want their name attached to the athlete and and the return investment is never going to happen but they want to be part of the program part of the system we'll find out but the question is why are these guys not playing well it doesn't have to do with with nil deals you know so in college just think about your college life you know you had a social life you had a school life now add a football life onto that right and? And now add two hours a week of talking to your money manager and your finance guy and your marketing people

and your PR people and sending a tweet out and having a photo shoot and filming a commercial and you're 19 years old. You've never done it before. I think that'd be a little bit of a distraction, Gabe. And again, I think it's little distractions that add up to one bigger thing.

And again, it could mean that you missed two throws a game just because mentally you're just not in the same place you were last year. Again, look, we all know this, right? We have little stresses in life that take us off our game. Whether we think they're there in our head or not, they just do. And I wonder if that's happening to some of these players, the pressure of living up to the corporate responsibilities.

You're getting big money now, man. Are you giving the companies the return on investment? Yeah, I think you raise an interesting point and a good way of looking at it. It's not actually what I think you're concluding with. you're it's not actually what what i think you're concluding with i bet it's not so much the the pressure because that's hard to quantify it's literally how many hours you have in the day which i hadn't really considered um it's just time that you could be doing something more meaningful that gets you more ready including sleeping by the way

like there's just things you could be doing that are better for you for being a good quarterback than all that other crap you know being on a zoom with some guy who's expecting something from you isn't helping you beat texas so yeah i mean i i asked you about this a few weeks ago and i didn't really have any sort of anything to back up the hunch that it could be a problem for guys but now here we are about halfway through the year and it is for a few big ones so i mean i didn't think i'd be there either and this is a discussion by the hunch that it could be a problem for guys. But now here we are about halfway through the year, and it is for a few big ones. I mean, I didn't think I'd be there either. And this is a discussion, by the way, that no one's going to want to have, right? Because it really takes away from the shine of NIL.

And again, I'm not changing my opinion on NIL. I am for a name like this. I mean, it's great. I wish every player makes money. But we're seeing so far that maybe some of the top, the big dogs, the money is affecting them a little bit. We'll find out, obviously. There's more to be bigger sample size, more players getting deals.

And maybe next year the deals just aren't as big. They're smaller deals. And I also, by the way, don't even believe the figures, right? Like, oh, a million dollars. Yeah, it's all contention. It feels like the same as these NFL contracts, right? $100 million in the fine print. It's like three years, $30 million.

You're like, okay, okay, cool. Yeah. Well, so Doug Gottlieb over at Fox Sports, who I know you've done some stuff with raised an interesting question which is what happens when we all just assume that Spencer Rattler will go somewhere else somebody's going to need a quarterback somebody else he might go back home to like if Jayden Daniels leaves Arizona State I could see him go back to Arizona go Arizona State or Arizona Oregon somewhere there yeah I mean he's gonna have

to find an offense where he can revive, you know, resuscitate his NFL future. Right. And obviously he's a good player, so he'll figure it out. But the question is, do some of those NIL deals travel with him or not? Some of them are local, you know, so it's going to be complicated. I think this is going to be boring for a lot of people, but super interesting and ultimately like change the course of college football for the next several years.

How this season ends for the guys with those deals. Correct. All right. Let's let's go to the last thing I think I learned. The game I enjoyed most, frankly, was that Iowa Penn State game. Basically, the scene was madness. I couldn't believe what the heck I was seeing. Basically, the scene was madness.

I couldn't believe what the heck I was seeing. And I said to you on text again that I can't think of another place in all of sports anywhere that looks harder to play than that stadium in Iowa, especially as it gets dark out. It was absolute freaking chaos. And it was extremely loud to the point where Penn State seemed like they didn't know how to snap the ball. There was miscommunications between the center, the guard, the quarterback. I was seeing a lot of stuff that seemed like the crowd really legitimately was making a difference. Not just like motivating, like they actually impacted play. And for some reason, you didn't seem to think that was true.

So please explain this to me because I think the Hawkeyes have a huge advantage until they go play at neutral sites. Well, I don't, I mean, the home crowd had no effect when the starting quarterback was there. When the backup quarterback was in, it had a huge effect because that guy's never played in that environment before. Now, I don't know why the offensive line's having false start penalties in a silent

cadence like that's that's not good and maybe the the loudness but they're in a silent cadence because he couldn't hear anything well because they're on the road i mean you're supposed to have a silent case but they had no problem with cadence and to my point is they no problem with cadence till the backup quarterback came in which makes sense right they were fine dude they had 17 points with clifford and i was was allowing four points a game. They were allowing no points a game, and they were moving the ball up and down the field with Clifford in there. And that includes two turnovers from Clifford.

It wasn't even a perfect game, and they were still moving the ball down the field. So to me, it's more about just the backup quarterback being in his home field advantage. I mean, I feel like about 30 schools have the same home field advantage. There's a couple more that are just louder. I'm not sure Iowa's ever been considered. I've never heard anyone who said Iowa's the loudest place in the Big Ten.

Everyone always says it's a horseshoe for the most part. So I don't know, man. What I was watching was insane. Well, yeah, because it was, it was, people were excited. I mean, and here's the thing about crowd noise, is it gets progressively louder. If your crowd knows what they're doing, when,

when it's going haywire, like it just gets louder. And that's what Seattle Seahawks have done. Like in Oregon, it's just light. It's loud. The whole game is louder and louder and louder and louder. And that seemed to happen and build an eye at Iowa.

I mean, it just got, and then it gets overwhelming. That quarterback had no, the quarterback had no idea no chance well it helps for your fans to understand football situational stuff right like you know like I like USC I didn't go there but I like USC I can just tell you there's a whole lot of people in that stadium that don't have any idea how football works they're they love being there. They do clap and cheer. They're loud. They love the team,

but they don't know what a third and short is. Like they, they just don't know every damn person in that stadium seemed like they were locked in smart fans. Correct. Yeah. So, I mean,

maybe it's, you know, an easy joke here, like not much else to do except to follow college football around there. But I felt like that had more of an impact i'll buy what you're saying that it had more to do with it being a backup quarterback than anything else but they do look to me from the first bunch of games that we've seen to your point earlier they look like the best team in the big 10 right now and i would not be shocked

if they could knock off the ohio state i think think Ohio State would beat them by three touchdowns. Right now. They play next weekend. You're giving Ohio State two, three touchdowns? I would take Ohio State and the points, whatever you're giving me. I'd lay them. Good. Seriously?

Yeah. My Lord. They were not competitive against Penn State until Sean Clifford got hurt. Okay, but I mean, they've been a great defense almost every week of the season. So you're not totally sold on that? Yards per game, points. It's about the turnovers, in my opinion, right?

They force a shit ton of turnovers, which, again, it's hard to be sustainable in doing that and their offense is just not very good i told you that they have new mexico state has 43 punts they're worse than country iowa has 40 punts already so far this year 40 of them i'll read the record again they're they're the top 10 of most punts the rest of the teams new mexico state vanderbilt new mexico southern miss yukon illinois arkansas state florida international middle tennessee state they have a combined record of 12 and 45 i was 6 and 0 like they're they're not they're they're just they're kind of getting by on the margins and those margins end up kind of getting by on the margins,

and those margins end up kind of getting squished when you play a good team whose quarterback's healthy. Counterpoint, if you know you have a great defense and a great crowd, and your quarterback is okay, you play the field position game, and you punt more. I don't know what UConn or any of the other teams you just listed have anything to do with Iowa being strategic. Okay, so let's say it's now, what, 35 punts?

Like, I mean, it's not, it's, I, 35 punts? 30, what, what is it? Like, they have 32 punts instead? You're making an argument that I hadn't considered. And listen, I'm a prisoner of the moment. And part of my job on this show is to represent a whole lot of fans who were pretty jacked up when they were watching that game. And you're kind of basically peeing in our cornflakes.

So it's okay. That's fine. You don't think I was even going to win the conference. And the conference isn't as good as people would like to believe. I was going to ask you, do you think we could get two Big Ten teams into the playoff? But I think that would be laughable for you. I don't think so, no. All right. Well, then maybe their only hope is pulling a Heisman winner. So let me ask you a little bit about the Heisman.

We're going to try to check in now in the back half of the season every week and get your top contenders for the Heisman. So give me your top three as you see it right now, and I'll throw a few extra names at you, whoever you don't name is this is really tough um i would have said bryce young would have but i don't i don't know i don't know so the real officer bryce young matt crowl old miss who had a great weekend i mean they were 52 to 51 but i think it's important to look at how you play in your big games and uh guess you didn't play well in this biggest game so far this year Matt Crowell didn't right we get to Alabama you know Desmond Ritter at Cincinnati CJ Stroud who just threw for five six touchdowns for for Ohio State Bijan Robinson Texas Spencer Rattler's I don't know why Hank I think he did this to troll us and Kenneth Walker at Michigan State oh geez I mean. I mean, B. John Roberts

is probably the best player in the country. He's not going to get number one in the Heisman rankings. He's not going to win the Heisman. I'll keep Bryce Young up there for now. He was, what was he, 28 of 48, 369 for three touchdowns.

I think him and Matt Crowell, I think Matt Crowell's the betting favorite, right? I think I saw that today, right? So I'll go, I'll go, I'll still go with Bryce Young, number one. I pulled the odds here. I'll go Matt Crowell, number two for now. He actually has the best odds to win the Heisman.

And then, you know what? I'll throw B. John Robinson in there just for fun for today because I think B. John Robinson is a monster. And I think he deserves a credit, even though he won't finish in the top three because his team sucks. He's really good. He might be the best player in the country. Yeah.

Well, what I find interesting about that, and I recognize that you're just sort of telling us who you think the voters would favor, not necessarily who the best players are, but you're not naming anyone on any of the teams that are currently in your top six, with the exception of Bryce Young, because he kind of has to be listed, right? So that means Georgia doesn't have a Heisman contender, yet they might win a national championship. Iowa, well, you don't take them seriously. They don't have a Heisman contender, yet they might win a national championship. Iowa, well, you don't take them seriously. They don't have a Heisman contender.

The Heisman winner rarely wins the national championship, though. Well, they're not a one-to-one, but I'm just saying it's interesting. We're about halfway through the year, and the teams that look like the best teams in the country don't have the best player in the country. That's just an observation. It might shake out that it's Bryce Young and the top team is Bama, but no one really seems like they're going to emerge from Georgia. Right? No, I mean, there's no, I mean, a lot of people were high on JT

Daniels. I mean, I had Jordan Palmer who, you know, is a quarterback guru. He's worked with some of the best out there. And he told me, you know, Jake Daniels was going to have a big year, and he was playing well until he got hurt. But he's hurt now. And, you know, I don't know if Bennett's going to give that job up right now. Yeah. All right. Well, Jeff, listen, you made us smarter this week.

I would argue this was one of the best college football weekends ever. It followed by an amazing fight on Saturday night and then a great, great Sunday of NFL games. I mean, just a wild, wild weekend. The season's heating up. We got tons to talk about on the Tuesday show that focuses on the NFL hits a little college and then you're going to be making some picks on Thursday.

You got a hole to dig out of my friend. Dude, we, I am, again, I've said this many times. to be making some picks on thursday you gotta hold a dig out of my friend dude we um i i am again i've said this many times i'm not like a profitable gambler i'm like at 51 52 somewhere around there like i'm not i'm not making money but i'm not losing a lot of money good god i mean like this past week and we'll talk about this more on Thursday I'm 7 and 18 in the NFL and even college football I had Penn

I nailed Penn State Iowa like I I wrote the exact script of how it was going to go and then their quarterback got hurt the Browns up 14 points this weekend

don't cover like Daniel Jones gets hurt Giants don't cover like I just all this shit panthers up 15 to 3 at home score three points the last 45 minutes of that game don't cover so oh boy i mean i guess it can't go any worse i it's just that positive so i just fade my ass for now whatever

yeah i privately have been um i mean good for you at least someone's making money around here yeah no you'll you'll you'll get on the right side i've seen you go through some some bad first halves and then rebound nicely so i guess really just like bama i texted you in the middle of that game i said we bet in bama the second half you said of course uh well they lost the game but betting bam on the second half was an okay idea i don't i i want so i mean live betting is the way to go like i hit oklahoma money line and money line live it's like plus number there i hit oklahoma second half like i i hit some good second half numbers and some good uh live uh live bets but nfl is hard to live bet um college was the way to go in that

and then like i took i took I think, Washington State live, and they beat Oregon State, so whatever. I think I hammered Utah again live because USC is just a dumpster fire. I want to make sure that was my point I made again. They're a dumpster fire at USC. You have to end that way? I have to end that way every single time.

All right, guys. Hope you enjoyed the show. Back tomorrow with our NFL show. Lost the cover, man, including the Chiefs. Got some issues right now. So we'll talk about all that tomorrow. Have a great night. Have a great day.

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