Geoff Schwartz Is Smarter Than You - Tom Brady’s Expectations & Russ Being Russ

Episode Date: September 15, 2020

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Reduced speeds after 20 gigabits of usage per line. Most reliable based on RootMetrics UL's report. September 15th. Week one is officially in the books. Joe Burrow looked like a future stud. We had a slow start for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and a sprint out of the gates for the New Area New England. Seattle let Russell Wilson cook, and the Cowboys are still the Cowboys. So much to get into, and I'm so excited that we have some normalcy in our lives, Gabe. I'm Jeff Schwartz alongside Gabe Goodwin, as usual, on Monday.

Gabe's back. He's actually live from outside of London. Maybe we'll get to that at some point. Jeff Schwartz of Smart on the New Podcast. Really appreciate you guys riding along with me all last week as we got into the beginning of the season and game man i i was i was so happy the football was back man i feel like i needed it the country needed we all needed it we got some great football this weekend oh it was an awesome opening weekend and there's this ridiculous belief that because some of us raised a few red flags and asked a few tough questions this offseason that we were somehow rooting against football.

It was so amazing to have football back. I'm so pleased the NFL conducted all these tests and everyone came up negative and everything seems to be rolling. It's great news. There's nothing but happiness about this. Let's hope it keeps going. And the NFL, before we get started here, deserves a ton of credit. And rightfully so. We bash them all the time, right?

For the way they've handled, or you do. I'm more on the, like, I like the NFL. I like the NFL. Is that, you know, player safety and health. And we've talked about this a lot. Are they really in all in on player safety and health? They have been all in for COVID. They've done all they have to do.

They spent the money. They've done all they have to do. They spent the money. They've done everything else. They've done a good job of getting themselves to this point to be able to play. Yeah, they have. And so the season started, we had a huge ratings hit with the Bucs and the Saints. And so that'll get us started.

Are people boycotting or are they not? Like, I'm just very confused. You know, I was of the belief that they were, but apparently not. Because biggest ratings since the Super Bowl and, like, biggest regular season ratings in, like, four years or something. So I guess maybe the boycotts aren't working. But let's talk football. So you mentioned Tompa Brady. By the way, nice job on the pronunciation, Tompa.

So he's washed. Cam looks dope in his Pats debut. And Ryan Russillo put it very nicely. He said, quote, updated power rankings. Number one, Belichick. Number two, Brady. I think that's about right. That's all the takes rolled into one.

No more facts needed. I'm just going to sit here and enjoy the fact that at least for a little while, it looks like Tom Brady has been humbled, even if that means the evil genius gets a little credit pats are better without brady okay well there's a lot to get into but first of all i'm gonna do i need to tell you the jet score to get you to high horse come on i was like sure okay um by the way jets left tackle mckay beckton was fabulous yeah. So good for him. But let's get back to real football while we're here. Cam Noon, Tompa Brady.

Let's start with, look, the Patriots take it very simple. It's that I thought Cam was going to play well, and he played well. What a surprise. New England's still very good. Offensively, still some kinks to work through. They didn't really throw the ball very deep, but they just played the offense that Tom Brady did, except that Cam Noon run the football.

So it's a very short suite. The Patriots have a rough schedule coming up. Seahawks for example. We'll see what they are in a couple of weeks. But let's get to Tom Brady. The big news of the day. Was Tom Brady did not look good. In his first start in Tampa Bay.

Guys I told you this for a month now. This was happening. I told you this for a month. Tom Brady is in a brand new offense for the first time in 20 years. A brand new OC comes along with that. New weapons come along with that. Add in no offseason. Yes, he got together and threw the ball a couple times.

Big whoopee. Short in training camp. No preseason games. None of it. And then all of a sudden, hey, go play the Saints, who everyone analytically has as the best team in all the NFC. Hey, buddy, just go make it happen in game one. It was not going to happen in game one.

I do understand what people thought it would come out and he would he would rock it right away. And I get he's been good in practice and whatnot. I did not expect him to be good. I'm not going to panic after week one. I know you and everyone else on social media is Tom Brady's done. he's washed up.

He threw a third straight game of a pick six, I believe, right? Like that's third straight game now with a pick six. There's a list going on the social media, like every quarterback that's won in the last, you know, in the last essentially since he lost, I guess, last time, like has won a football game. He lost in week 17. He lost in the playoffs and now he's lost three straight games.

Gabe, they'll be fine it's gonna take a little bit of time luckily they get the panthers this weekend and then the raiders and like they get another bum team and then they play the packers in week six okay um that's that's an optimistic way of looking at it and you did i'll be fair you love this so much oh you it was You love this so much. You love this so much. Yeah, of course I do. Well, listen, I don't I don't get a great outcome here. I have to accept that one of the two evil people in my life for 20 years is brilliant. Either Bill Belichick is brilliant or Tom Brady is brilliant. So I just have to decide which of those poisons I want to take. And right now, I think I'd prefer to admit that Belichick is a genius and Brady looks like crap. So I'm enjoying it. Here's the thing. My buddy, Nick Wright over at Fox Sports, your buddy too, he had this to say, which is that right now, basically Tom Brady is

the oldest quarterback ever and he's playing like it. And maybe there's not that much more to analyze here. Maybe it's just a 43 year old guy who doesn't really have it anymore. And when he doesn't play with all the safety nets, he doesn't look that good. Well, that's possible too, is that everything that he had around him, which was Belichick and Belichick's game planning

and Belichick's mind, that he'll revert to something else. And you could have easily just inserted Jameis Winston basically for Tom Brady yesterday and gotten the same result, right? Do we agree on that? So maybe it's Bruce Arians. Maybe Bruce Arians is the problem and not Tom Brady, and gone to the same result, right? Do we agree on that? So maybe it's Bruce Arians.

Maybe Bruce Arians is the problem and not Tom Brady. Because I think, you know, Winston's on the sidelines for the Saints yesterday probably laughing his ass off because, again, you could have transported him into Tom Brady's spot and got the exact same performance. A pick six, another interception on a miscommunication with Mike Evans, a couple big plays as usual. I mean, he hit a wide-open touchdown to O.J. Howard on a playcommunication with Mike Evans, a couple of big plays as usual. I mean, he hit a wide open touchdown

to OJ Howard on a play action pass. So there's many reasons why this looked like it could be Jameis Winston. But the reason why you bring in Tom is obviously this game didn't go very well, but it's to win the close games. It wasn't close enough to win. It wasn't close enough to win.

But that's the difference between him and Jameis. It's supposed to be, is that Tom can win those close games, and Jameis never even put him in a spot to do that. You can argue again that Tom Brady didn't do that yesterday either. So I will remain optimistic about it, but I understand that there's a concern that Tom Brady is not what he used to be. And I think that's a valid thing to say.

I mean, he's 43 years old. He's not going to be the same guy. I think he can still do it. I think give him a couple, you know, a couple of months, not a couple of months, one month, he'll be able to do it. But I will say, man, Bruce Arians went hard on Tom Brady in the press today. Basically said, hey, man, Tom Brady was great in practice. Where's that tom brady now

and you know belichick never said anything ever about about him and so i'm kind of curious to see how he responds here's the exact quote you look like tom brady in practice all the time so it's kind of unusual to see that in a that in a ball game because they didn't do things that we weren't ready for everything they did we thought we were ready for. Just absolutely incredible that he blasted them like that. All right, Jeff, listen, you mentioned Coach Arians, okay? And you're saying, I don't know, maybe Jameis could have been there. Maybe it's Coach Arians. Well, Coach Arians doesn't seem to think it's anyone's fault but Tom's.

And I don't think he was trying to dump on his quarterback, but that's kind of what he did, maybe just being a little too honest. And he pointed out that mike evans ran a good route that tom misunderstood and threw a pick into he basically said like tom played a bad game tom wasn't ready yikes i mean geez and people were upset that that bill belichick just said nothing at press conferences um i don't know if throwing him under the bus is the right way to put this early on, but definitely not happy with the way that Tom Brady played. Look, I get it. I mean, you're not going to be happy with everything that your quarterback does

in his first game in a brand-new offense. The Mike Evans interception, I don't know, looked like a miscommunication, right? Tom threw it deep. Mike Evans sat underneath. I will say Dan Orlovsky, who I really like, is breakdowns. He's fantastic. He mentioned that you can't have Tom Brady throwing a far hash out like he did on the second reception.

So part of this is the offense, right? It's the offense's design is a concern. So you have to figure out a way to make this work. Gabe, it's going to take a couple weeks for this to work. Okay. Well, how about this? Speaking of things that he needs to make it work and comforts why is it that tom brady always needs some five six white guy from like a mac school or some school that didn't i didn't even know how to football program why does he

always need one of those dudes to run little slants and outs for him who is scott miller scotty miller he's gonna be on everyone's fancy football team. That's who it is. I don't know. That's just the offense is, you know, it's so predicated. We saw this with Cam Newton today. It's predicated a lot on those underneath passes. And those wide receivers typically are really good at running those routes. They're small, compact wide receivers.

They make small, compact cuts. They're in the slot. They're getting it done. I mean, Tom Brady is is a you know really a numbers numbers thrower right he's not going to throw much times outside the numbers and so those guys are able to work that middle of the field a lot better than mike evans who's a little bit bigger takes up a little bit more room in there so a guy like scotty miller or chris godwin in the middle of the field is where he likes it's also look to my point again it's much easier to

throw the ball to a guy you guy kind of within your cone of vision than it is to turn and blast the ball all the way to the sidelines when you're 43 years old. Yeah, which is maybe a reason why he shouldn't be a starting quarterback in the NFL anymore. Oh, geez. You would take him in the Jets right now. He'd clearly be the starter for the Jets.

That could carry it away. All right, well, you blew past cam real quick i just want to make sure that we don't miss our chance to talk about him for one more second okay are the patriots better with him because it certainly seems like they are and i want to know more about this sort of motion at the snap and and 15 carries for cam ran for like 70 something yards they seem better and they seem more dynamic am i right um i look, I don't want to overreact to it. They scored only 21 points. You can make an argument that they should have scored 28, right,

because Nikhil Harry fumbled going into the end zone. I thought he was going to be really good at Arizona State. He has not been really good. I think what we saw today was a diverse offense that had been different than what the Patriots had done with Brady because Kim could run the football. So we saw some good wrinkles. I saw the thing today where he was, what,

was he 9 for 9 or 10 for 11 on passes when they had motion to find ways to get guys open off motion. So they're just being a more diverse offense. Are they better right now? I mean, Tom could have had that game, in my opinion. He could have scored 28 points against the Dolphins. I think we'll see if they're better when they play better teams. They've had the Seahawks this weekend.

What are coming up? We'll get to Seattle in just a second. You know, will Cam just keep improving in the offense? What wrinkles can they have now that they weren't able to have beforehand? So I don't know if they're better. I just, I'm excited to see what the offense can become it's remember it's still very early in the process this is the first time they've been on the field together with live bullets in this offense they're going to have new ways to do things as the season goes on

yeah let me ask you last question here do does the lack of fans empty stadiums favor the patriots because coach belichick has no soul and doesn't care if fans are there in the first place. All right, I'll tell you what. I did not notice there no fans were there, honestly. I mean, we saw when we had kicks, obviously, that there were no fans there. I did not really – I did not really – did you notice that much? I mean, the way the NFL is set up, obviously, is that because of the camera angles,

you're not going to see fans very often until we get to kicks, right? Essentially, or punts, things like that. I listen to most games

on mute or very low volumes. I just, I don't really care what they naturally have to say. And the crowd noise to me,

just like the piped in crowd noise, didn't really hear much. I know they, Fox had their own noise. The CBS had their own noise as well. I didn't think it was a bad deal. I think it affected the college games more.

It felt odder in college to have no fans there. It didn't feel that weird to have no fans at NFL games. Yeah. No, I didn't think so either. I'm already getting tired of the jokes also about like, oh, it's sort of like a normal game here with no fans. Well, the Chargers jokes, yes. Yeah, I'm over those bits. All right. Well, let's talk about a team and a place that is known for its fans um your guy russell wilson my guy too in a way it's on my fantasy team um so this one's easy russ threw

for as many touchdowns as incompletions he had four touchdown passes four incompletions insane game it looked like he was just doing whatever he wanted out there. Ran for another 29 yards. My buddy Mark Schlereth was on the call for Fox, summed it all up. This is what he said, basically, you can make a pretty good meal in a crock pot, you just got to let it stew. And so they're letting Russell stew, and what do you know, it's a damn good meal. You've been saying something like that for a while, but it seems pretty simplistic to me. Is the whole key in Seattle just let Russ be Russ? That's been the key for a long time. It's why I was high on Atlanta this week, which again, okay, listen to me.

If I ever bet on Atlanta again, just shut the pot off and tell me I have to shut. Stop, stop. You remember, you said you're never betting on Atlanta again. I told you when I made the pick, everyone, that I liked Atlanta, but they're going to break my heart. Of course they did. They played terribly. Back to Seattle, though.

If they're going to let Russ be Russ, the league is in for a lot of trouble with Seattle. Now, their defense is not going to be very good this year, but if your offense scores in the 30s, you're not going to stop them very much. Russell Wilson is fabulous when you let him be Russell Wilson. There was fourth and four from the 50-yard line. It might have been even inside the 50, like the 45.

They went for it and threw a go-round, scored a touchdown. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. It might be the only time that we've had a fan base, the Seattle Seahawks, bully the Seahawks into having a better offense. Seattle Seahawks Twitter is fantastic, by the way. All those Mina and Ben Baldwin, Danny Kelly, they're great. But it was an offense that looked like a championship-winning offense

that decided finally, finally, Gabe, we're going to rely on the best player on the field, Russell Wilson, to be the best player on the field and be Russell Wilson. We're not going to run the ball and be down 18-12 and say, Russell Wilson, save the game for us. We're just going to go in and kick people's asses from the start. I loved it. You know how much I like Russell Wilson.

I'm glad they went in this direction. Now, let's see if they hold up because we know a lot of times coaches are very stubborn in the NFL. And when they make changes, I always wonder, how long will those changes last, right? Even going back to last year, during the Cowboys started 3-0 and then it's this new offense, right?

It was like new and there was a lot of motion and play action pass and then as the season went on, it just went away. It went back to being Jason Garrett's boring old offense. So now,

will Seattle keep this going? They play New England this week. I keep forecasting that game. It's going to be a fabulous game. It's in Seattle, I believe. It doesn't matter. There's no fans. I want to see them do it against Bill Belichick now.

Well, that'll be an interesting one. And I know which coach you think is a better coach between Pete and Bill. Here's the question. I don't think Pete's a bad coach. He kind of always dump dump all over him. If Pete, if Pete, well,

he, cause he's stubborn. If, if Pete, this was the new Seattle Seahawks offense and Bravo Pete, you've done a great, I liked him at USC. I mean,

I almost committed to USC. So, I mean, I was, I don't, I didn't dislike him there. Okay. I mean,

you tend to throw some shade at him and all things Trojans on this show. And well, yeah, I don't yeah, because I don't like USC. Okay. Just for the record, with Pete's plan and sort of letting Russ cook and not worrying so much about the scoreboard, 8-0 when the opposing quarterback has thrown for 400 yards or more. So basically, they don't mind letting the other guy sling it. Matt Ryan did.

They still win because it means they're letting Russ do his thing too. Yeah? Yeah, but to be fair, there was a lot of late points for the Falcons when the game was – I mean, it was 31-12, I believe. And the Falcons then kind of scored quickly back-to-back. I mean, it wasn't a game. But look, their defense is not going to be very good. Jamal Adams played great, but they did have no pass rush.

No pass rush. They're a little bit thin on the corners as well. So I'm not surprised that points were scored against them. But when you put up, what, 38 points, you're not going to lose many football games. No. And by the way, Russell was as efficient and sort of playoff ready looking as anyone I saw yesterday. But, you know, one thing that you and I suspected was going to be a thing, I think most people did, was sort of lack of preseason, not a really official offseason.

It was going to look sloppy out there. Certain teams are going to look really bad. And that mostly wasn't the case. I mean, especially with the best quarterbacks in the league all look crisp. Why do you think that was? Say that again? Why do you think everyone looks so crisp out there? Russell especially.

Yeah. Well, look, I was very pleasantly surprised with how well the game was played throughout the day. Like, it was much crisper than I thought. I think you would agree with that too, right? There weren't a lot of penalties. There weren't a lot of crazy turnovers. Yes, the tackling was bad. There were a ton of points scored. Thank you, by the day. It was much crisper than I thought. I think you would agree with that too, right? There weren't a lot of penalties. There weren't a lot of crazy turnovers. Yes, the tackling was bad. There were a ton of points scored. Thank you, by the way, to Zuri, one of our producers. Fabulous.

Who had the stat on Thursday, right? Overs after 2011 lockout, first two weeks, 22-9-1. They're 9-5 heading into Monday Night Football tonight, right? So they're hitting again, right? Bad tackling. But I thought it was really good. And things that I have said that were correct, by the way,

was I thought veteran quarterbacks would start fast. And they did. Lamar Jackson was fabulous. Russell Wilson was fabulous. Kyle Mahomes was fabulous. Like, the most dynamic quarterbacks in the NFL who you expected to play well, we wanted them to play well.

Now, look, Drew Brees played okay the second half of the game. Matt Ryan threw for a bunch of yards. Oh, by the way, Aaron Rodgers looked – we'll get to him too. He looked fabulous too. So, you know, the Star Wars, the old Star Wars, the guys that are still young and spry looked great. No surprise in my opinion.

Lamar Jackson, I don't know if we're getting to the Ravens. I do not think we are in this podcast. Oh, boy, he looked great. I watched a lot of that game. He looked more improved as a passer. And I've obviously been very wrong on Lamar Jackson. If he passes the ball like that, he threw the one ball high to Mark Andrews that Mark brought down for a touchdown. Otherwise, man, he looked good.

Wow. You really are drunk on football. If you're, I mean, you're throwing everyone love, including Lamar Jackson week one. You are loving some football. If you're, I mean, you're throwing everyone love, including Lamar Jackson week one, you are loving some football. You left one guy out, Jeff, who looked maybe better than any of them. It was Kyler Murray. And, you know, I know it's just one week, but I have to say it felt like the NFC West is going to be decided by the Kyler-Russ combo, not the Jimmy G-Russ combo. Yeah. I mean, Kyler looked good. I have no doubt the offense is going to be good i mean kyler murray improved throughout last season they ran the ball actually pretty well last season and you add in uh you know john jr hopkins with fits

and with christian kirk it's a defense the defense played much better and san francisco was in a little bit of a look like they just weren't a there's not very good right now right i mean they come off a super bowl jimmy g's like just average i think and they just didn't look like the team they did last year trent williams though has the most incredible block of all time go to my twitter at just schwartz dude it's incredible incredible but um nonetheless um yeah it's um it cardinals yeah i i i'm me, dude, I'm always a little bit late sometimes to, to move toward a trend because I just, I'm things typically work in the NFL for a while. I was, I'm high on Arizona entering the season, but it didn't go like all the way in. Cause I thought everyone else was too high on Arizona.

And most of the time when you're too high on someone, they don't play very well, but Kyle Murray brought it, man. He's, he's a good quarterback. Yeah. Well, I mean, we'll see i'm with you i i tend to fade it when when people when the whole public is on one guy i like to go the other way as well but i i don't after watching him play i don't know how you could go against him um here's a guy who people seem to be going against for no particular reason whatsoever

uh because he's also about eight years younger than your boy tom brady aaron rogers looked great in a shootout with the vikings yesterday shouldn't have even really been a shootout but it became one four touchdowns 364 yards passing davante adams had 14 catches two touchdowns aaron jones had a good game got in the end zone two other receivers scored touchdowns but yet for some reason twitter can't help but point out that they didn't draft Aaron Rodgers a new weapon in the first round this year. You know, they drafted the quarterback instead. And we'll imagine what he could have done with some weapons. I don't know, man. Looked like he had exactly what he needed.

He looked like the best quarterback out there. So here's what I think. I think they gave him an even better weapon. I think they gave him a massive chip on his shoulder. And I think Aaron Rodgers is going to shove it up everyone's ass this year including his own gm and i think it's going to lead him all the way to the super bowl well he had some incredible throws there's a throw that that was um he basically just like stopped on a diamond through like almost like a dart like just like and it hit hit someone right in the hands for time it wasn't adams it was i

think scandler or someone for a touchdown like boom right there uh he looked good man it's funny i tweeted out like oh is rogers is Rodgers good again on Twitter and someone was like his his yards per attempt is 5.3 and then he hit Adams for a 25 yard touchdown then he hit Scanlon for a 50 yards pass like he looked he looked really good and um the Vikings are a wreck again I'm gonna try not to overreact to week one. The Vikings' defense is a wreck. But, man, Gabe, he looked good. And you're right. The motivation with Jordan Love behind him. Even Jordan Love is not even dressing.

He didn't play good in training camp. Rodgers wants to stay in Green Bay. He's proved to everyone he's that guy. And he proved it after week one. He looked great. And, look, second year in the offense, they're going to feel better about it. They're going to have more wrinkles. He's going to feel more comfortable, especially if Adams is healthy and ready to go.

So it is no surprise, I think, that he played well with everyone healthy. But I think the efficiency of his play was the part that struck out to me as being fabulous. So why do you think so much is made of, you know, over his career, him not having first round guys? Like, I looked it up. I mean, the other guys who you would compare him to, Brady, Breeze, and Big Ben, right? The other guys who are in his era who have rings, all of them are Hall of Famers, we assume. Yeah. They don't have a lot of first round guys in their history.

They've just turned a bunch of guys into pro bowlers and future hall of famers. And so has Aaron Rodgers. Why does it matter that they haven't drafted him a receiver if he's had like six pro bowl receivers since being there? Well, what's interesting is that, you know, this is a criticism that Tom Brady had of the Patriots, right? You don't give me enough weapons, right? You didn't give me enough weapons. Where are my weapons at? I mean, they killed Harry last year.

Didn't do very much as a late first rounder um where are my weapons at i think rogers feels the same way yes he's made he's made players pro bowlers but when they left green bay were they pro bowlers anymore no but i mean like then what does he mean so well i mean the idea is that you hope that when you go 13 and 3 in a deep wide receiver year, they draft you a weapon, not a quarterback that's going to sit for at least two seasons. I mean, that's like it's either, look, the NFL is most often you're in win-now mode. I mean, like for 22 teams, you're in win-now mode. The rest of everyone else, you're not. And Green Bay is in win-now mode, and you have to win now,

and that includes picking up players. The Saints obviously have Michael Thomas, but they've spent in free agency to bring in guys green bay doesn't do that either they don't really spend anything for aaron rogers no that part's true but michael thomas by the way not a first round guy seems crazy to think about now but second round guy i think he was what third third third round right second or third not a first round guy not a first brown big ben's best weapon not a first round guy there's there's no um there's no guarantee that first round draft is gonna pan out like i i understand i i'm not saying that you have to draft a wide receiver to you get one um but it's just

that it felt like especially heading into this year you're like oh where are the holes on the team oh wide receiver where's the where's the where's the draft heavy yet oh wide receiver makes perfect sense nope Jordan Love well I'm I'm only I'm not even at all kidding actually I'm genuinely serious that I think the way Aaron Rodgers is wired and what he lived through you know in his first three years in the league behind Brett Favre and the motivation that gave Favre to play one of the best years of his career when Aaron was you know sitting there behind him I I really think history will repeat itself and I think he really does genuinely feel like he has something to prove to the league I who knows why I mean but that's how I think I think, but that's how he's doing it. I think, but look, to be honest with you,

that's how most people are motivated. I have- Yeah, really? Well, look, yes, in pro sports, yes, to prove people wrong 1,000%. I have a list on my phone of everyone that told me I couldn't play in the NFL. Look, I still have it. I don't look at it very much,

but I think there's a lot of motivation in proving people wrong. And that can come as, as a hall of fame quarterback or as a scrub offensive lineman in the seventh round who wants, needs motivation to go kick some ass to make the team and show everyone they're wrong. I mean, I think motivation can come in different forms, but for a lot of athletes, that is the motivation to prove people that told you, you can't do it wrong. Look around the NFL right now, Lamar Jackson, right? How many people told him you can't do it wrong. Look around the NFL right now. Lamar Jackson, right?

How many people told him he couldn't do it? A ton of people told him he couldn't play quarterback in the NFL. Russell Wilson, too small to play quarterback in the NFL. Pat Mahomes doesn't count. I think he's been proven that, I mean, I don't think anyone has really doubted him as a three-star. Look at Baker Mayfield, who played terrible yesterday, but he's the chip on the shoulder guy, right? Kyler Murray, too small for the NFL. I mean, like these guys all the time, I think, use this motivation.

Tom Brady, too old to play in the NFL, right? Cam Newton, I want to prove to everyone that, you know, that said I couldn't play in the NFL anymore. I think a lot of players have this motivation of people telling you you can't do it. And then obviously to try to succeed and prove everyone wrong. It's a satisfying feeling okay well i don't think anyone had told aaron rogers he can't do it for many many years now somebody kind of suggested maybe he can't and i think he's gonna stick it to him by the way this is a good segue to moving the line our over under segment because it's his old coach the guy who got too scared to ever tell him no then got bounced out of town and

he showed up what do you know he's the new cowboys coach so mike mccarthy is there the cowboys lose uh the offense looking me you'll tell me more about that but here's the over under i want uh heat of kellen moore's seat in dallas over under 130 degrees. There's some thought behind that number. Ooh. Well, I'd love to have thought on that number, but it's hot, buddy, because the same old Cowboys showed up yesterday. I mean, look, this is an offense that has so many weapons. And I get it.

Aaron Donald was kicking ass yesterday, and he was wrecking shop. But you had months to design an offense to help you against Aaron Donald. Screens, run traps at him. There's ways to do it. The Cowboys did none of it. And down at the very end of the game, fourth and three.

I don't know. Do you kick a field goal? Do you go for it? I don't care. Do whatever you want. I'm not an analytics person like that. I don't know. Who knows?

They didn't execute, though, at the end. Scoring 17 points, Gabe, is not good enough for this team, ever. Theyal analytics person like that. I don't know. Who knows? They didn't execute, though, at the end. Scoring 17 points, Gabe, is not good enough for this team, ever. They're too talented for that. They look like a Jason Garrett coached team yesterday when they're not supposed to be. Now, Kellen Moore is calling the plays right now. Mike McCarthy has passed that off to him.

I don't know. Probably has three more weeks to figure it out before McCarthy takes it back over. Yeah, McCarthy said after he gave it up before he would never do it ever again. And now here he is, giving it up to Kellen Moore. And yeah, they didn't do anything special. By the way, 130 degrees, you should know this. You love cooking meat. Most meat is considered, I believe, cooked fully at 145 degrees so if we're going to say that he's fully cooked at 145 degrees no you think hotter if you eat your if you eat your meat 145 degrees you need to you need to go to a therapist what you want hotter or colder colder rarer who wants to have

a well-cooked piece of meat well i mean i mean, in this analogy, when he's fully cooked, that means he's... No, I get the analogy. I'm saying that I'm just personally giving you guys my opinion on the rareness of your steak. Okay, so that's bonus material for the people. They come here to get smarter about football. Now, you just taught them about cooking steak. Where do you cut it off?

Like 120, 125? What's the internal temperature of a Jeffff schwartz steak to be fair i do not actually uh temperature any of my food except chicken sometimes um the steak test you just you poke it and you see how firm it is all right this is done okay or you suvi i suvi i suvi it so like you know do like 127 for six hours or And then you just, you sear it and you're done. All right. See, I messed with the wrong guy, given over-unders having to do with the meat temperatures.

My brother, my brother's the one who does like, he's a meat thermometer dude. He has all the, he has all the accessories. Meat thermometer dude is a funny term. All right. I want to know Joe Burrow's Twitter love ratio, even in his losses this year. Is it going to be over under 99% love versus 1% hate?

Oh, it's going to be over that. I mean, he looked really good yesterday outside of that. Outside that, he had a terrible shovel pass for interception. I thought he looked good, man. He drove him down a two-minute drive. The Chargers have a good defense. Drove him down a two-minute drive. And A.J. Green, that was a terrible push-off call.

But the Bengals had a chance to win the game. They called that back. A field goal for overtime. Kicker pulled his hamstring or his calf. It's a very Bengals way to lose. Lions and Bengals. Oh, my. He had a rough go of it.

But I thought he looked good, man. I thought he did what he was asked to do early on. He's got some shakiness, but he looks like he's the running part, sneaky athlete. By the way, here's an example of why

it's missing players is important. So Der james is obviously out for the season for the for the chargers on burrow's touchdown run the safety filling in for him took a terrible angle to joe burrow burwin derwin james blows him up okay instead he ran into the center's block and and then burrow ended up scoring touchdown like burrow should not score from 30 yards out on a qb draw but that's not it should not happen that especially not where he's like directing a blocker like a joystick correct i could even see that that was ridiculous here's the thing man i just think he did play a nice game in spurts he also made some unbelievably boneheaded plays and i just think that everyone wants him to

to succeed so bad because last year's lsu run was so fun that we're just blinding ourselves. And I feel like he's going to go 2-14 and everyone's going to say how great he is every week. And we're going to look up and one day he's going to be Baker Mayfield. And I like Baker Mayfield, but that's kind of where his record's going to be. God, Baker was absolutely atrocious yesterday. He looks just lost. He just doesn't look right still. We'll get back to him.

I don't know why Joe Burrow is such a sure thing. You know that I'll keep it straight with you guys. I'm not rooting for Joe Burrow to do anything. I just watch him play and then decide how I feel about him basically every week. And after week one, he looked good. And so I give him the props for looking good. I do think that there's a big contingent of football, Twitter,

who loves Joe Burrow, who looked at him as maybe the best college football season of all time. Right. And said, Hey, look, he's going to be studying the NFL. I said,

Hey guys, let's wait and see how he plays. And so far he exceeded expectations for the week one. Gabe, that's one week. He has 15 weeks left to play. And it was a loss. and he kind of gacked the game away in the fourth quarter the interception was bad reception was bad so cool two minute drill

but don't leave it in the foot of a kicker if you're really a stud you're gonna win the game when you got the ball okay uh speaking of you know team who got it done washington they they pulled the upset so i want to know, Washington wins as underdogs this season, over under Jags wins as underdogs this season. How long are we going to, you know, overlook these teams and how many times are they going to screw us? Okay. I picked Washington to cover and I picked them to win straight up.

And another thing I did, I told you guys to lay off the Colts. I said, lay off the Colts. Do not bet the Colts. Do not. I got a text from a buddy of mine. I said, thank you for telling me that. I bet them anyways, but thank you. Don't bet the Colts.

I think Washington will have more wins. They're much better on defense. They're a better coach, in my opinion. They're going to be more consistent. And that was a big boy win. They're down 17-0. It came all the way. Now, Carson Wentz helped them.

Carson Wentz was really bad. Even Dan Orlovsky tweeted out that Carson Wentz wasn't playing well, which is a shock because he loves himself, Carson Wentz, and the Eagles. It was reported he was going to coach for the Eagles. So, like, him, slander Carson Wentz. Brian Baldinger, slander him as well. He didn't

look very good. But nonetheless, I think Washington. I think Washington, I thought they were going to be third in the division, which to be about right and i think they're going to win six or seven games i'll get i give washington well but that that see part of my question was about whether they're going to be underdogs all the time so we're assuming they're going to be a dog almost every week of the year but they'll pull some upsets yeah i don't i don't i mean who i mean maybe they'll be favored home home against the Giants. I can't see any other team

in that division. Well, obviously not that division, but I mean, I can look at their schedule real quick. I just can't imagine their favorites anywhere outside of it,

like a pencil in probably the Giants game, right, as a favorite. I mean, look at their schedule. Browns, Ravens, Rams, maybe Bengals at home against the Bengals, they might be favored.

That's it. Maybe Panthers week 16, possibly. Real quickly, Washington put the Washington football team established in 1932 on their end zone. That's what it said. A lot of words.

It was incredible. It was the longest thing I've ever seen written in an end zone before. Yeah, that guy screwed up how to spell Chiefs once in the end zone. Imagine trying to get every word of all those words right. Every letter. Yeah, that guy screwed up how to spell Chiefs once in the end zone. Imagine trying to get every word of all those words right, every letter. Yeah, yes.

A mess. All right, let's move along. Baker Mayfield. I want to know coaches Baker plays for in his career over under 9.5. He's already up to four. So I watched this game, watched most of it so far. Obviously, it's just a TV copy, so it's hard to see the wide receivers because I want to watch Jedrick Wills, the left tackle,

who's a rookie from Alabama. I thought Jedrick did a decent job. I was impressed by his performance. A couple things. Baker just looks completely lost still. I mean, he has no idea where any pressure is coming from. He's not reading the defense at all. I mean, it's easy to see, okay, here's the pressure.

It's coming from there. Like, it's no surprise. Clueless. No idea. No idea. No idea. He can't find anyone open. Stands in the pocket too long.

He just looks terribly uncomfortable. And if he doesn't do it this year, he's not the starter anymore. So he has 15 more weeks to figure this out. Obviously, you put nine and a half coaches um um i that's i would i would say under just because that's an outrageous number but your point is that is that he's not going to be very good he's a bounce around teams um which is a very possibility well and also for some reason i he just seems like the kind of guy that it'll never get it doesn't ever seem like

you'll be blamed on baker uh you know they just keep on oh it's i i i think it's gonna be blamed on baker now okay well we'll see i don't know who has more clout him or stefanski um speaking of blame and bad coaching and star players and just a dumpster fire of a team. We'll end on a high note for you. I want to know minutes before a Le'Veon Bell trade rumors start in New York. We'll say over under 0.5, 30 seconds from the end of this recording. Over, of course, under, whatever it is, whatever quick quickest. It's yes, as soon as possible. Yeah, as soon as possible.

He's already out for a couple of weeks now with a hamstring. Guys, don't just don't sign running backs. Like, it's so silly. Just don't do it. It doesn't pay off. Just don't do it, guys. Don't do it. Well, what bums me out is that, you know, we were pretending, I guess,

for a little while that he wanted to be there. We're also pretending that Coach Gase was like some QB whisperer who was going to teach Sam Darnold what he didn't know already. And none of these things are true. And the Jets are in danger of having every good player who possibly could suit up for them demand a trade and then go somewhere else and have some success and celebrate it. And everyone sees the playbook now. it's just going to keep happening so i i think there's no way we ever

see him play for the jets again i want to like sam journal but i just can't man like i it's just i can't do it i mean i know gaze is probably not a i know i know gaze is i know gaze is a good i know gaze is a good, I know Gase is a terrible coach, but sometimes you kind of overcome bad coaches. Just here and there, you're like, okay. It's just, it's not there. I will say, again, Kai Beckton played really well. Now they're probably going to trade him in a year

because they're just what the Jets do. But I think that you guys got a good one there. Well, I would love for them to make a deal for, you know, just the stopgap quarterback, go get our Teddy Bridgewater, whoever it has to be, just somebody who can still play the position, keep a line intact, slowly rebuild the defense. And, you know, maybe the Jets could be relevant one day because suddenly, you know,

the Patriots might not be a dominant force every single year, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm not either. I'm a Chargers fan now, Jeff. Okay, I hope Herbert plays soon. Huh? I hope Herbert plays soon. Nah, yeah, we like that.

It's time for Herbert. All right, we covered everything, I think. We covered everything in the NFL. It was a wonderful week. By the way, not to two million horn, two, two, four and one against spread in our podcast picks.

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