George Kamel - Are People Too Broke To Have Kids?
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Our world is obsessed with acronyms.
Goat, FOMO, Yolo, Bogo, NATO.
It's all there.
And there's another one making the rounds these days, dinks.
When you're dinking, you can't be donking.
That's you, you're donking your dinks.
Nope, not talking about everyone's new favorite fake sport called pickleball.
We're talking about people choosing to put off having kids or not having any at all.
So what is the reason?
Is it because of cost, sleep, responsibility?
Well, in today's video, we're going to explore all the reasons people aren't having kids
and when the right time is financially to start a family.
But before we get into Baby Talk,
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All right, trying to get my eight hours in.
I need my beauty sleep.
Now, in case you missed it, Dink stands for Dual Income No Kids.
And if Dink didn't sound insulting enough,
there's a subcategory called Dinkwad.
dual-income no kids with a dog,
which was my wife and me before we added another dog
and our sweet bundle of human joy.
Now we're known as Oink A-F,
one-income, new kid, and Frenchies.
Whether you think it's an insulting name or not,
dinks are owning it.
They're bragging on TikTok about how much sleep they get
because they don't have kids
or how they can go on date nights to Costco
because nothing says romance like $1.50 hot dog burps.
You're disgusting.
And not only are dinks celebrating their dink's stings,
they are increasing in number. In 2022, 43% of households had no kids, which is a 7% increase
over the last decade. And I get it. It kind of looks like a hot mess out there. One look at the
news and you might wonder whether you even want to bring kids into this mad world. But really,
the world's always kind of been a hot mess. We just didn't have social media to remind us
every three seconds. And if you think social media is evil, it is crazy what they used to do for
entertainment. Go watch Gladiator and you'll find out. I mean, you had the Vikings, Genghis Khan,
Shaka Khan, Rath of Khan, Comic-Con, we've gone too far.
I draw the line at Comic-Con, not okay.
And yet people kept having kids throughout the ages.
Otherwise, you wouldn't be here.
So as you sip your Starbucks, Frapa-Capa Phi Sigma Latte,
and baskin the look of unending adoration from your dog,
have some gratitude for being alive
because the world is still a beautiful place,
because you're in it.
Love you so much.
I think I just threw up in my mouth.
Okay, so besides climate change,
why are dinks not having kids?
Well, in a recent survey, 59% of dinks pointed to finances as their reason.
So I decided to conduct my own research, and I asked the dinks on my socials, what is stopping you from having kids?
And before we get into the responses, I saw a lot of folks that say they wanted kids but were struggling to have them, like Red, who answered infertility but trying.
So if you're not a dink by choice, then I truly, truly hope that your dream of being a parent comes true one day.
But for the rest of those people, the ones who are intentionally choosing to not have kids, let's go through the top reasons they have.
gave. And the top answer on the board had to do with how much kids cost and earning enough money
to afford them. Here's what Kerry had to say. Need to be earning a certain amount to afford them
to give them a good life, along with a bazillion others who had something similar to say. Another top
reason was not having a house. Here's one response. Cost of housing where we live, average home
price is $1.3 million. I don't know where you live. West Coast, East Coast, Canada? Frightening.
In a recent survey, 87% of Gen Z and 62% of millennials reported they couldn't afford to buy a house.
Now, this tracks. People are going, well, I got to accomplish some life goals before I start a family.
I need to get a house to fit the baby because babies apparently need a ton of room.
So I get it, but also don't let this be the reason that you don't have kids.
Kids can fit in condos and apartments and small homes that you rent, I promise.
Next up, Kelly and many others said, it's the insane cost of child care, exclamation.
point. Now, Kelly's not wrong about this one. This can cost a pretty big chunk of change.
The average annual cost of child care is nearly 17 grand a year for babies and about 15 grand
for toddlers. Another top contender was debt. A bunch of y'all said you're either in debt or
paying off debt, like this response. The average American has nearly 24 grand in non-mortgage debt,
and that will definitely put a damper on how free you feel to take on another expense or responsibility.
Nowhere near the top answers, Chewy said,
Costco. Last of the old romantics right there. I don't know what that even means. How is Costco
stopping you? I want more. Give me more detail here, Chewy. Let's get back to the real answers.
The folks in my Instagram feed aren't the only one saying that money is a giant hurdle.
If you remember, six out of ten dinks pointed to finances as their main reason. Now, some of them
are choosing not to have kids because they love the freedom and lifestyle that goes along with it.
And those guys showed up in my Instagram poll too. But others say they're not having kids because
it's too expensive. So just how expensive is having a bambino these days? Well, to be fair, it ain't the
day a great grandpappy Joe when you delivered a baby in the cabin and then put them to work the
next day, hoeing turnips. Child labor laws are ruining this country. I'm kidding. My great
grandpappy was named Abdul and he farmed camels. Very lucrative back in those days. You seen
camel's milk at Whole Foods, $18 a pint. Are you sitting down before I share this next number?
These days, it costs on average $310,000 to raise a child to age 18. The hospital bills from birth are just
the beginning. Now, your health insurance should cover most of that cost, but then your premiums
will go up because you're now covering kids instead of just the adults. Then they've got diapers,
baby gear, toys, clothes, and as they grow up, food, food, and more food. So that average number
breaks down to over $17,000 a year, over 18 years, and around $1,400 bucks a month. Now, obviously,
it's not going to be divided that evenly across time. Some years will cost less, and some years
might cost more. Like when your middle schooler is going through shoe sizes like candy and needs
braces. That year's going to be a tough one, but you get the idea. It's a lot. $1,400 a month. That's
rent for some people. And if you've got student loans, credit card debt, and a car payment you're also
dealing with, and then you double your rent by adding kid expenses, that, yeah, I get it. That's
bad. I can't do this anymore, man. But does this mean it's a good move to put off having kids
or never have them strictly because of money? Well, I'm going to answer that and share for my own
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All right, back to the question.
Should you make a decision to put off having kids
or never have them just because of finances?
No.
So I guess we're done here?
That's the short answer.
It's okay to plan when you want to have a kid,
but don't let money be the reason you're not having kids.
You can't have a baby and not go broke.
And listen to old dad George here.
Okay, I've been a dad for a whole 12.
months now and yes I know that's one year but as a parent life is now calculated in
months because we're extra and here's my take on the whole kids in money
sitch old dad George wisdom number one be intentional when my wife and I first
thought about starting a family we asked some wild questions like what would
it look like if we went into parenthood with no debt no car payments no student
loan not even a mortgage payment and we decided we like what that would look
like and we worked our tails off to make that a reality now I'm not saying
you got to pay off your house or even your consumer debt before you have a kid
The point is, think about what you want your life to look like and feel like, set some intense goals and work toward them.
And that could look like paying off debt and making more money or mastering the art of Taekwondo for reasons I'll never understand.
Old Dad George Wisdom number two, fill up your emergency fund.
You will have more peace of mind and less stress going into parenthood if you have a fully funded emergency fund before you become parents.
But also, the beauty of having a bunch of savings in the bank really applies to any phase of life.
And if you're following the Ramsey plan that I teach on this channel, you pause this plan when you've got a baby on the way.
And I call that stork mode.
So you make minimum payments on any debts you have and stash as much as you can in savings before babies here.
And when baby and mom are home safe and healthy, you can resume the plan with aggressive debt payoff.
But here's the thing.
It can be hard to save money if you're not on a budget.
So make that a priority.
And all this is, it's an intentional spending plan.
You list out your income, your expenses, you track the expenses to make sure that you have margin at the end.
to throw toward your goals. It's that simple. And if you want to check out a great budgeting app,
every dollar is the one. I'll drop a link in the show notes below. Old Dad George Wisdom number three,
don't waste your time before kids. Now, we waited five years before having a kid. That wasn't
super intentional. And we didn't just focus on building more well than paying off the house. We also
enjoyed that time. So if you're a dink, enjoy it by all means. Having kids is great and I love being
a dad and I wouldn't trade it for the world. But take advantage of this time. Work on your relationship.
travel if it's in the budget, hit up the club,
Sam's or Costco, whatever floats your boat.
Just soak it up, but don't just waste it watching Netflix.
Okay, though that'll still exist five years from now.
Old Dad George Wisdom number four,
having a kid forces you to be more selfless with your money.
Before we had our baby, the Amazon boxes that showed up at our door
were mostly for me, myself, and my hair.
Now they're full of stuffed giraffes, diapers,
and disposable placements to use when we go out on date night.
And by the way, she's a great third wheel,
and she doesn't have a choice.
But really, how do this make me more selfless?
Well, I'm just less focused on myself.
I'm willing to sacrifice more and make sure that my baby has what she needs instead of thinking
about what I need.
And truthfully, I don't need much.
I've spent a whole lot less than myself and my life is so much richer and more joyful
without more stuff.
Old Dad George Wisdom number five, ignore the stats and the news and the in-laws.
Whether your family and friends want you to have kids or think you should wait to have
kids, they aren't you.
They don't get a vote.
My friend Dr. John Deloney says, when you're a grown up and you're married, there are only two people who get a vote in your marriage.
You and your spouse.
Ain't nobody else invited.
So you get to decide what you want your family, your money, and your life to look like.
So there's my encouragement.
Do not wait to have a kid if you want to have a kid.
And don't let money be the reason.
You will figure it out.
You will sacrifice.
And you will have no more joy in your life than bringing that baby into the world and looking in its eyes.
Nothing else will matter.
And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
So if you enjoyed this video, watch this next one to find out all the things I wish I knew before having kids.
I'll also drop a link in the description below.
Thanks for watching.
We'll see you next time.
