George Kamel - Is $1 Million Enough to Retire?

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Remember when you were a kid and your friends would ask how you'd spend three wishes? Or in my case, you wish you had friends that would ask you how you'd spend your three wishes. But you know the rule. Never ask for more wishes. It doesn't work. I've seen Aladdin. You're getting your wishes, so sit down! When I was a kid, this was a no-brainer, right?
Starting point is 00:00:21 First wish, ability to fly. Second wish, grow taller. Just me? I'd take 5'8. I mean, is that wrong to wish to be 5'8? And the last wish, $1 million. One million dollars! And for years and years, whether you were a seven-year-old or 77 years old,
Starting point is 00:00:38 a million dollar was the revered marker of financial success. But in today's world, we're not so sure. And it's got a lot of people understandably worried. Because a million dollars doesn't go as far as it used to. So today, we're going to take a look at what a $1 million nest egg really looks like in today's day and age and whether that's enough to retire in style. And that will happen after you fulfill my actual third wish, which is for you to like and subscribe. That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Make a kid's wish come true. Now, before we see if a million dollars is a worthy retirement goal, let's talk about the reality of how much people generally have in retirement savings and what that amount will do for them. Now, Americans in their 20s, average 401k balance, $10,500. For Americans in their 30s, the average balance is $38,400. For Americans in their 40s, the average balance jumps to $93,400. For Americans in their 50s, it jumps to $160,000. For Americans in their 60s, the average balance is $182,100. And finally, for Americans in their 70s, the average balance is $171,400.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I don't know about you, but those numbers made me kind of sad. And not only that, but isn't it ironic? Even more ironic than Alanis Morissette's hit song, where the lyrics aren't even ironic situations. Rain on your wedding day? That's just a bummer. It's not irony. That's a coincidence. I know smoking sign on your cigarette break.
Starting point is 00:01:54 You're just in a no-smoking zone, Alanis. Move on to the smoking. Find the smoking zone. But you know what's actually ironic? this retirement crisis. Because even though people are worried about whether or not a million bucks is enough to retire on, most of them don't have that. They have 10 to 15% of that number saved up by the time they need to hang up the old work hat and hit the dusty retirement trail. And it's clear that many Americans simply aren't prepared for retirement. Even the peak
Starting point is 00:02:21 at $182,100 is nowhere near enough to cover the later years of your life. And while this number is concerning, as is the thought of life's later years and the disgusting and discolored toenails that come along with them, I do want to point out, that it's just the average. There are also plenty of millionaires with a high net worth who are comfortably living out their dream retirement, sipping on cranberry benefiber cocktails and skimming the old readers digest.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Which, hey, no hate here, that RD article on the trick to peeling hard-boiled eggs perfectly every time, game changer. And guess what? Those millionaires, they're not relying on Social Security to pay for most of their expenses during retirement because they figured out a long time ago that that would be a terrible financial plan.
Starting point is 00:03:00 There's more money in the Bluice Banana Stand than there is in your Social Security check. Come on! In 2022, the average Social Security benefit for retired workers with just $1,669 a month. That's only about 20 grand a year, which to give you some perspective, the federal poverty level for a family of two, that's you and your elderly spouse, is $18,310. So add all of that to a very legitimate question. Will Social Security even be around when you retire?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Because the truth is, it's a modern-day mystery, a Dean Kuntz Novella, a real Nancy Drew nail-biter. really knows what's going to happen. Now, conventional wisdom says the program will stay in place, but there might be less money available to go around for us retirees. And if that's true, you definitely don't want to depend on it for your retirement income. If you consistently invest over a long period of time, your nest egg will be more than enough for you to feast like a king during your retirement years and still leave a legacy for your loved ones. And if Social Security is still around, that income's just going to be icing on the crackers, baby. Which let's
Starting point is 00:03:58 face it, the iced ones are the only crackers worth eating anyways. And I know you're probably in the comments right now going, but George, my monthly expenses will be lower in retirement. I won't have to worry about a mortgage because I plan to pay it off. My kids will hopefully have graduated, so I won't be paying for college. My gas costs will go down because I won't be driving to work every day. Yada yada yada. I never heard from them again. To that I say yes and no. Now I can see where you're coming from and yes, some costs may disappear or drop completely. But think about this, you still got to pay property taxes, your homeowners insurance, utility bills, and all of those other monthly expenses, which we know will increase as time goes on. Plus, you'll have one major
Starting point is 00:04:36 expense in retirement that's going to be higher than it is now, and that is health care. And that's a whopper of a bill, especially if your health problems are the result of eating too many woppers in the first place. Woffer, Wopper, Wopper, Wopper, Wopper. Now, even if you're healthy and you've been drinking kale smoothies and sweating it out in hot yoga for decades, people turning 65 today have a much higher chance of developing a severe disability that needs some kind of long-term care in their remaining years. And the fact is, nearly 70% of Americans 65 and older will need some form of long-term care at some point.
Starting point is 00:05:08 So with all those factors to think about, it's not hard to see why most people stumble into retirement, having no idea how much they need, and whether what they have is even enough. All right, so let's look back at our original question. Is $1 million enough to retire on? Well, let's say you're 65, and you've got a million dollars in retirement savings,
Starting point is 00:05:25 and you're ready to quit that 9 to 5 so you can devote more time to the things that matter to you in life now, like bird watching. But this is going well, Dad, and we still have eight bird types left to go. Now, historically, the stock market has an average annual rate of return
Starting point is 00:05:38 between 10 and 12%. And don't come at me with, oh, George is on one. It's nowhere close to that right now. Listen, I know it's not there right now. Simmer down, Terrence. Simmer down now! This is an average annual return
Starting point is 00:05:49 calculated over decades. In 2021, the S&P 500 was up 28%. In 2022, it was down 18%. So sometimes it's lower or even negative, sometimes it's way up, but 10 to 12% is typically how the rate of return evens out over a long period of time. All right, now that Terrence feels better, back to you and your million. If your $1 million is invested in good growth stock mutual funds, that means
Starting point is 00:06:13 your investments could generate $100,000 to $120,000 each year, 10 to 12% of a million. But let's be way more conservative here. Even if your account produces average returns somewhere in the ballpark of 7% each year, that's still $70,000 worth of income to work with. And keep in mind, that's basically the average household income in America today. Now, if you talk to most financial advisors, they'd recommend a withdrawal rate of about 3 to 5% in retirement in order to remain super conservative and keep those investments going as long as you're still sucking wind.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So on the less conservative side, the question, can you live off a million dollars in retirement now becomes can you live off of somewhere between 70,000 to 120,000 a year in retirement? Bearing in mind that inflation will go up over that time as well. And on the Uber conservative side, the question becomes, can you live on 30,000 to 50,000 a year in retirement? Now, only you can answer that.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Some folks will need $10 million to have the retirement lifestyle they've dreamed about. Others can comfortably live out their golden ears with a million dollar nest egg, happy as a clam. Well, at least I'm not bitter. There's no right or wrong answer here. It all depends on how you want to live in a retirement. And let's be honest, there's a whole lot of depends happening in retirement. So the trick is this. You want a nest egg that's large enough so that you can live off the growth that creates
Starting point is 00:07:33 each year without ever touching the principal amount. When you're figuring out what your target retirement number is, you want to consider things like cost of living of where you want to retire. Because there's a big difference in Boise and Boston. Inflation. It's always going to be a thing, causing life to cost three or four percent more every single year. Taxes. Yes, old people have to pay taxes too. Lifestyle. There's a bonus here. The YMCA is free at that age.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Healthcare expenses. This is the big one to worry about that we talked about earlier. And finally, Social Security. More like social insecurity. Am I right, guys? Guys? So we've talked about how much is enough, but we haven't exactly talked about how to get there. If you're financially ready, meaning you're out of debt
Starting point is 00:08:16 and you've saved up three to six months of emergency expenses, you should begin investing 15% of your household income into good gross stock mutual funds in retirement accounts. That's right, the magic recipe here is time plus compound growth. And I want you to start investing 15% as early, as possible into good gross stock mutual funds using these tax advantage of retirement accounts, like a 401k and a Roth IRA. If you do this, you're going to have more than enough money saved in retirement. If you don't believe me, let's run the numbers with our handy-dandy investment
Starting point is 00:08:45 calculator. So let's say you make the average income of $70,000 and you want to retire at 65, and you're currently $25. So if we just invest 15% from 25 to 65, let's see what that turns out to. 25 here to 65 here. We have $0 in investments to start. We're going to contribute 15% of 70,000. We're going to contribute $8.75 a month for 40 years with an annual return of, let's say, 10%. Look at that. We're going to have $5.5 million saved in retirement.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Now, let's be even more conservative. Let's say it's 9%. We got over $4 million. Boo-hoo. Let's take it down to 8%. $3 million. Let's be Uber conservative and say it's 7%. $2.3 million.
Starting point is 00:09:34 That's still way above the average and that's still a great retirement. And let's get crazy. Let's say we do hit that 12%. We're going to be super optimistic. You would have over $10 million in retirement. Holy cow! That's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But let's face it, I know most of you, you don't want to wait that long to retire. And I don't blame you. We've got shows to catch up on, malls to walk, kids on our lawn to shake an angry fist, And you're not getting your rock back either. So let's say you want to retire at age 50. Well, let's see what that turns out to be if you invest 15% from 25 to 50.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You would still have $1.6 million with 12%. If you go down 11%, you'd have 1.3. Go down to 10% and it would come down to 1.16 million. That's still pretty incredible. At 50 years old to have 1.16 million. Which we've already established could generate six figures of growth per year. Now, of course, retirement accounts have age restrictions, so in most cases, you've got to wait until 59.5 to tap into those 401ks and IRAs without penalties.
Starting point is 00:10:34 So here's a bonus pro tip for you. If you want to retire before then, let's say at age 50, or at least have the ability to do that, you can utilize a normal savings account or a bridge account, which essentially is a non-retirement investment account that you can use to float you until you're old enough to tap into the retirement accounts. All right, folks, what happens next is up to you. Only you can prevent forest fires, and only you can decide how much you can decide how much you need to retire with dignity. That kind of gives you freedom and options and a life on your
Starting point is 00:11:00 terms. And no matter where you are or how much you have saved right now, this stuff really works when you put it into practice. I promise you. Your financial future is in your hands, not someone else's. You start on the path to your dream retirement the moment you take that first step. All right, that's a wrap for this episode. Thank you so much for watching. We'll see you next time.

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