Get Played - Apple Vision Pro + Resident Evil Requiem First Impressions

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Heather, Nick, Matt and Ranch talk about their first impressions of Resident Evil Requiem and Heather takes everyone on a tour of the Apple Vision Pro! Check out our brand new merch at&n...bsp;kinshipgoods.com/getplayed Follow us on social media @getplayedpod Music by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.com Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com For our exclusive show Get Played DLC, ad-free main feed episodes, our complete back catalogue including How Did This Get Played? episodes go to patreon.com/getplayed Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at getplayedpod@gmail.com Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fm All of our links can be found at linktree.com/getplayedpodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is a headgum podcast. I've been hesitant to take a sip. I haven't had the zero sugar seven up. It's pretty good. I like the Sprite better, but it's pretty good. Hey, you know what? That's not so bad. There's a, you know what's really hitting is the zero sugar seven up Shirley Temple.
Starting point is 00:00:25 That one's fucking money. But that's great. Yeah, it's good as zero root beers. Zero root beers are good. A&W is really good. And then Ben Stiller has his new sodas. I have to try these. He's got a Shirley Temple one.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I like that he's got his hands in a lot of pies. I love that we're going to get more canned Shirley Temple's, a very good beverage. I think maybe one of the best flavor profiles of all time. A Shirley Temple. All right. Everybody likes it. Nobody's like taking a sip and being like, what the fuck. Yuck.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Yuck. You know what? I surely agree. I saw you chewing on something. I don't know if you were thinking about should I say this or is this even right? It was like, should I say this? And is this even a thing people say? And then I just went for it.
Starting point is 00:01:12 I got a new watch band because of all the watch talk. It's look. It's really sick. That's a great watch band. That is a great watch band. Is your wedding ring gold? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 This is like Rizmaxing here because you got the gold and silver working together. Heather's dripped out. I don't go shit about anything. No, but I mean like that's like that's like, that's like, I don't give a shit about any. No, that's like very, I think it's very stylish to have both. Okay. Because a lot of people are dogmatic. You have one or the other.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I wouldn't dare to have both gold and silver. Oh, well. Well, you're afraid of the gold member trying to come get you. Yeah, that's the whole issue because also he loves skin and I got a lot of it. Is this the show?
Starting point is 00:01:45 I am rolling. Inventing lore that it's not part of it. Gold member doesn't go after you. I think for the intro for this week, we should just slowly fade in. Like, I think they've just been talking
Starting point is 00:02:03 this whole time. This is what we do before the show starts or somehow even dumb. Yeah, dumber. We turn it off for the show. Yeah. We experience 8K VR and spend a lot of money as we discuss the Applevision Pro plus Resident Evil Requiem Impressions this week on Get Played. Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games. And every game in between, it's time to get played.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Tiger Weiger. That's me, Tiger Wiger along with our third host, Mr. Games, Matt Apodaca. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone. And welcome back to the premiere video game podcast where this week, the boys have finally agreed to join me in the future of spatial computing. That's right. It's the Apple Vision Pro Week on Get Played. I'm excited because you're excited.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I'm excited. I'm very excited because also I have a VR headset. I have an Oculus. Is it still called the Oculus, the Meta Oculus? I think they changed it to the Meta, whatever. It's the meta whatever the fuck it is. I got one of those. I got it at Costco.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And it's fine. I barely use it. Yeah. And but this is like an 8K display and you've been raving about the resolution. I have worn my Apple Vision boy at least once a week since purchase. And this device came out February 2024 and I got it on March. And I love it. It is too heavy.
Starting point is 00:03:54 But otherwise it is great. What I will say about it, but we're going to get into. it. We're going to get into it. Yep. We're going to get into it. It doesn't look big or heavy, but it... I mean, look, it's a pretty. It's a pretty.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's so pretty. It's so pretty. It's a horny cartoon wolf. It looks insane. Yeah, I mean, it's like, you have, they look, we'll talk about it. We're going to get into it. We'll talk about it. We'll get into it.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But they clearly did a lot of, like, hey, is it possible? to make one of these that doesn't suck to look at. Right. Yes. Was one of their main concerns. Does it look normal to wear it? No. But did they try?
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah, they did. They're getting closer and closer to, they're going to bridge the gap at some point between the like meta ray bands and this. And then we'll just have that. Yeah. I want the Jordy LaForge visor. I think that's the sweet spot. Oh, I want Cyclops.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Cyclops is pretty cool. But I also want it to do Cyclops stuff. But then you're cursed with the, you know, you have to be wearing it or else you're, what are they called? What is, what are the, we learned this, that the blasts are not just red blast. Yeah. They're portals to the punch dimension. Right, they're portals to punch dimension. But what's the name for the blast?
Starting point is 00:05:13 Optic blasts. Optic blast. Yeah. Your optic blast will just go out of control. You think, no, we can't get into this. He also, I was told. You think when he busts, it does it too? Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:22 We can't get into this. It might do it. Talk about blowing someone's back out. To explode your partner. For three minutes in. I mean, it's kind of like... 30? Three.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Oh, I was like, what? Not the only, would not be the only X-Men who is cursed with not being able to enjoy the physical comfort of another. Colossus probably has a hard time with it. Yeah, sure. I would imagine Nightcrawler has difficulties. Right. You know, might disappear. Mystique's got it down, though.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Mystique's got it down. Mystique can have a lot of fun with it. My wife could be mystique. I don't know. What? Anybody's wife could be mystique. Anyone's wife could be mystique. We could all be mystique.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Anybody could be mystique. And that's actually really scary. If you had to have a power that was either X-Men, My Hero Academia, or, I don't know, like, JJK. Like, what would be your power of choice? Well, it seems at least I'm not familiar with My Hero and less familiar. with JJK as I am with X-Men, I will say at least with X-Men, theirs comes with persecution,
Starting point is 00:06:35 and that doesn't feel as good. In the other ones, it kind of seems like, it's like, hey, this is cool. Yeah. In X-Men, it's sort of like, we're going to kill you for that. That's true, that's true. But the trade-off is you have,
Starting point is 00:06:48 well, and this is bad, anamanteum skeleton. That wasn't, he didn't want that. No, he was given to them. He didn't want that. He didn't want that. He had bones. Wolverine's power is not his skeleton.
Starting point is 00:06:58 It's his healing factor and his bones. I think bones is kind of cooler. You, what, you want bones? You want bones. Well, he had, I mean, he has bone claws. Right, but you want, that's your power you're choosing, is bones? I think bones is cooler than animantium. I think animantium.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Wait, you want, what are you saying, Matt? Yeah, what are you saying? I'm saying bones is cool. What is bones? Bones is cool? What? Are you saying, are you saying? Are you saying?
Starting point is 00:07:28 that him having bone claws is cool? I think it's... Or do you think adamantium skeleton? They didn't have to do that to him. They didn't have to do that to him. He could have just kept the bones. He didn't consent to that experiment. I see.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Or did he? I don't think he did. I don't think... Did he come? Maybe he said? Maybe he agreed to it. There was part of it that I think he did. And then he was like, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, not all this.
Starting point is 00:07:49 What the heck? And then he was like, I don't like that, Bub. Yeah. Right. Wolverine's cool. Wolverine is cool. sent you through JJK in there. Here's the thing. Gojo's O's O.P.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So that's kind of like, that's the obvious choice, but he's just so, kind of cyclopsian, really, with the occluded eyes. Cyclopsian. Gugi, the protagonist, you know, has got Schooner, that's part of the curse, is that his power is that he has this powerful demon inside of him, devil inside of him.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And so I think I'd go with Panda, because he's a big panda, I think that's fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you eat leaves anyway. Among other things. Yeah. Sticks and...
Starting point is 00:08:32 Nick, did you see that my sweatshirt is Kirkland's signature? I absolutely did. Black on black, very, very stylish. Pretty cool. Where did you, like, because I have one, but mine is gray with the black logo. The black on black is very sick. My wife got me this on eBay. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:51 A gift from my wife. Wow. Isn't that nice? The love of all. wife. That's right. She knows I love brands. What the fuck? Kind of a... Heather, what's your answer? Hmm. Well, I definitely want flight. So flight is like the primary and then after that,
Starting point is 00:09:12 other powers are secondary to me. Do you want magical flight or do you want like a biomechanical like sort of physically possible flight? I don't, I want wings. I don't want wings. I don't want Iron Man suit. I want flight like the way that Rogue flies or like Magneto. Storm or Magneto. I mean Magneto is like repulsing. He's like he's but but he is flying.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Yeah, he's flying. But you can levitate. Yeah, I'm a flight. Okay. And then beyond that I feel like anything is fine. Ranch you get a like okay, you have your your list of your, uh, the world is your oyster as far as picking a superpower. What do you think you go with? Think of being invisible. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Wow. Wow, being invisible. Get the gossip. Yeah. The pervert's choice. The nosy pervert. I guess here's what I'd want. I'd want flight and invulnerability, but no strength or anything beyond that.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Yeah. Because I would be pretty sure that the moment I flew, somebody would open fire on me. Fuck, I didn't think about being super strong. So, like, just flying and, like, being invulnerable would be my thing. so that I could, like, go fly to any army base and, like, hover above it and just be like, stop. I guess I feel good that I'm not cursed with the, I see something flying. I feel like I must do something about it. That's none of my business.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah, no, yeah. I'm not getting involved. If I saw any person flying, if I saw you flying around, I'm not asking a question. I also want the standing fly possible, like the way that, you know, Superman can stand in the air. You want Gene Gray, basically. You want Vitol. Oh, Jean Grey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:52 What's the downsides of Jean Grey? She loses her mind and becomes insanely evil. Yeah, she becomes Dark Phoenix. Name also kind of boring. Yeah. Gene Gray. Taking the last name literally, gray. Meet them the newest mutant Ralph Jackson.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Angel has wings. I don't want the wings. But they all, he's, it's fucking nasty actually. I don't want that. No, yeah. I want flight and the ability to stand in the air. I just, and like, hold out my hand and be like, be calm mortals.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yeah, you want to, so you do want to be Magneto. You want to be hovering over the Golden Gate Bridge and telling everybody to conform or die, basically. Right. I think I'm going to. Yeah, I want Magneto Sparist. Okay, I'll take it. I'm going to change. I'm going to change my answer because I didn't think about being strong.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah. I do really love being strong. And so I know Colossus is the strongest, but I don't want to be Colossus. I think I'll go with Beast. Okay. Beast is cool. Beast is like cool. He's also smart and I like that and he's kind of hot, which I like that too.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Well, here's the thing. I was just about to say, no matter who you pick in the X-Men, you're going to be hot as that. Every single one of them, regardless. Professor X is hot. Professor X is hot. They all have cum gutters. It's nuts. Like they're all so hot.
Starting point is 00:12:16 They're the coolest characters. Ooh. Well, no. I feel like people don't like. I'm bringing this up every single chance I get. People don't like the X-Men as much as they like the turtles. Turtles are still above X-Men, I think, in terms of likability.
Starting point is 00:12:29 No, I think it's a fair take. That the... The turtles are the most beloved IP. The worst part about the turtles is the thing never discussed in the comics or the show, which is that they have to stink. Yeah, they have to... Well, yeah, they stink.
Starting point is 00:12:43 They live in the sewers. They have to smell so fucking bad that the only thing that should happen when the turtles are above ground is people should be going what is that stench? What the hell? Why is that stinky guy
Starting point is 00:12:58 handing me with a big stick? This is like your observation about how Sonic's eyes must smell. I think the... I think it's important that we think about the way that these things stink. I think I need a baseline
Starting point is 00:13:11 for what an eyeball smells like. I have no idea. It doesn't matter what an eyeball smells like. It just, if it's that large, it has to drink. It's got to have a smell. I... Look, I had pet turtles growing up.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I don't find them to be unpleasant smelling. And I didn't find, I never found, I found, like, this reptilian smell is just kind of like, okay, hey, that's what a reptilian smell is. Was that what you were digging as you swallowed them whole? Okay. But also, you're talking about just the smell of a turtle. Yeah. I'm talking about a turtle that lives in the sewer. Okay, sure, right.
Starting point is 00:13:41 You introduce the sewer element. It lives in the sewer. Even if it's in the rain part of the sewer, it's still the sewer. No, that's a good point. They're more deserving of above land dwelling. Yeah. I don't think they should. I don't think they've got to be down there.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And they're taking their hygienic cues from their master a rat. Yes. The nastiest motherfucker possible. I don't want a rat inside. Anytime I see a rat, I'm pleased. I think it's funny. Oh, my God. I like to see them.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I do like to see them too. When you're out like on a subway or something, you see one running down a thing, I'm like, oh, look at them. It's kind of fun to see a rat or a mouse not in your own. Yeah, I don't want anything to do with it in my home. I don't want, I don't want. I see a rat on the power line. I'm like, come on. What you do?
Starting point is 00:14:24 I saw a mouse once, and he was, like, just in a parking lot, and then he jumped up to pull himself up a curb, and he, like, his legs would be able to wiggle. Yeah. He used all this strength. I was like, that's really smart. Yeah. They're a little too smart. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:38 They want to try and take over the world. Well, they also, well. That's one of them. That's just one. The other one, it's kind of just doing whatever you want. That's true. He's all id. he is
Starting point is 00:14:50 is that his problem no did they say like oh we made a mouse that's all it I don't know if we never really diagnosed what is wrong
Starting point is 00:14:59 with Pinky he's just not as motivated his brain and this is all we know yeah I don't know if it characterized it is all id but that's a discussion
Starting point is 00:15:07 for a different different episode I like those guys a lot though too we'll make it in DLC yeah we're gonna figure out what's wrong with Pinky and we're gonna get to
Starting point is 00:15:15 we're gonna get to it behind the paywall so we don't you know get it to be upset Welcome to an hour where we deconstruct. What's wrong with Pinky? I think we can also just a DLC format because you talk about the Ninja Turtles being the most, like not the most popular IP, but the most widely accepted IP.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Like no one has a problem with the Ninja Turtles. No one's a Turtles hater. I think if we kind of, we were trying to think of IP like a ranking of that. Like what's the, because certainly something like Sonic, it's like so, the fandom is so divided. There are people who think Sonic is stupid. You know, Star Wars certainly invites the same sort of toxicity. Yeah. Same sort of backlash.
Starting point is 00:15:55 But there are things like the turtles where people are like, yeah, I like the turtles. I fuck with the turtles. And that's despite multiple failures on their record as an IP. Right. And I would say I would go this far. Everybody in this room, none of us, the turtles are not our favorite. No, they're not even close to our favorite, I think. but we all like them.
Starting point is 00:16:17 We all like them. Do I subscribe to the Turtle's subreddit? Absolutely. Oh, interesting. I don't even do that. I got to get in there. I think one of the funniest things I've ever seen is the condition of the 19, is it 90 or 1989?
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah, the original suits. The original suits where the lips are all rotted off and it's only teeth. Yeah. It's horrifying. Yeah. You would like that. When I saw that, I was like, that's a Halloween costume. That's good.
Starting point is 00:16:44 To be rotted turtle costume. I like that and I like the deteriorating animatronics from Chuckie cheese. Those are fun. Those are just interesting because I like to see the mechanics on the inside. I'm realizing now I should have brought my Magic of the Gathering Ninja Turtles cards. Oh, no. There's a real whip on my phone. You know what I realized, I didn't even take a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I have a refrigerator in my home, not to brag. Very cool. It has food inside of it. It has frozen food. That one's doing pretty well for themselves. I have I have showing a picture
Starting point is 00:17:17 On a bad day Like when I'm sick I feel like That's what I look like Is a rotted Donatello it looks like It's the gums That make it bad
Starting point is 00:17:30 We have various magnets On our fridge Holding up Little pictures And things like that Four of the magnets Are Ninja Turtles Pretty good
Starting point is 00:17:39 I mean One of them One each Wow Pretty good I just have them And Turtles aren't your favorite.
Starting point is 00:17:45 They're not even my, I have no other magnets of IP. But I have those for some reason. It's like a little flat like sticker magnets kind of. And again, there's some things where it's like, you know, if it's a Game of Thrones thing,
Starting point is 00:17:58 some people are like, I don't want that in my home. But if it's a Ninja Turtle's things like, yeah, I'll put those magnets on my fridge. You know how unobtrusive they are? My wife has never said anything about it. Well, by your, by your metrics, she probably lightly likes them.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yeah, I'm going to have to ask her. Like, hey, what do you think? about the, that's actually, she's a good test case for it because there's no way, I almost can guarantee she has no opinion of it. And if she saw them for even a second, she'd be like, yeah, they're fine. I bet you she's an easy convert for sure. Pretty good. Pretty good. Hey, hey Matt. Hey, Matt. Hey, Matt. Hey, Matt. Hey, Matt. Do you like to sleep? I love it.
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Starting point is 00:24:32 There's also a lot of Ninja Turtles games we could dig into at some point. But right now, we're going to talk about video games in general on this video game podcast. The question for the room is about video games we are currently spending time with. I ask all of you. What are you playing? What are you playing? It's me the resident evil merchant. I never heard of talk to my friends about what they're playing on their video game platforms of choice.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Be it's Steam Deck, PlayStation, Switch to Einthor. Sorry, what was that last one? Einthor. I got an Einthor. I got an Einthor. I haven't spoken about it because that hasn't arrived. Oh, I'm sorry. I mean, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:25:15 You're going to bleep me. No, we're not going to bleep me from there until I say penis. Why? So that she had an end. So you know we're going to stop bleeping. I mean, if we're going to bleeps, I mean, this has been a pretty profane episode and so far anyway. But, I mean, like, if we were going to bleep something, we probably would be you saying penis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Or is it bleeped every time we say it? We should be bleeping it. This is a Christian show. We shouldn't be putting out of anything like that. Yeah, it's a low-key Christian show. I didn't know that. Yeah. We kind of feel weird letting you in here because you're kind of a vaguely demonic presence.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Are you guys shakers? What do you mean? What do you mean? I'm a mover and. No, you're a shaker? I don't know what that is. Shaker is, it's like a religious sect. Oh, it's a Christian sect.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Oh. Yeah. Just say no, because you're not. Well, I'm not. Okay. I could try. You should try it out. They sing a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Oh, I like that. Yeah, they got good singing voices. I guess I'm a mover and a shaker and Matt's a rump shaker, so. In a way, we are. I'll throw ass at jerk. You'll throw ass at jerk. I'm a salt shaker. Some of those songs are low-key bangers.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah, yeah. Like, my god, is it not some garrhy rins? And I just picture that. You listen to that song, I picture me twerking. Yeah, well, I'd love to hang out as long as I could, but I should probably ask you the question. You're tired of us? You're done with us? No, I don't want to understand my welcome.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I could stay here all day. I know, it's okay. I got nowhere to be. You guys try that. Oh, you got one right there. Seven up zero sugar. Yeah, I'm drinking a seven up zero sugar, lemon, lemon, lime, so. but flavored with other natural flavors,
Starting point is 00:27:16 which seems to be the full title on the can. And it's pretty good. I like the 7-Up Zero. I like the 7-Up Zero. Shirley Temple Moore, which we talked about before the show, but also like Sprite Zero and Starry Zero, which I think is low-key my favorite of the Lemon Lime Zero,
Starting point is 00:27:34 which I would put above the 7-Up 1. Starry zero is pretty good. Yeah. Look, I like Starry. Do I feel foolish every time I'm asking for it? Yeah. Right, because it replaced Sierra Min. and the main alteration is they switch from cane sugar to high-fructose corn syrup.
Starting point is 00:27:49 We used to have it all. I think they're adding pro to too many things. Pro? Pro. I know the topic is the Vapavision, bro. Yeah. There's like water pro now, like soda pro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And protein, bro. Yeah. I don't like that. And I don't like plus. I don't think what you said is true. I don't think there's soda pro. I think there's like the PlayStation Pro. I think you just look it up.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Nick, I think you're out of your depth. Nick, we can't be calling people out like this because just in the kitchen before we started, I had seen you eating food. There was a wrapper on the table. Two little sauce cups. I said, Nick, did you get yourself some takitos? You said yes. And then you said, wait, I don't know why I said that.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I had a bean and cheese burrito. I don't know why I like my reaction. was to lie. You lied if you want to die. I don't know what I did that. I'm professional. What, Matt? I was queuing you up to maybe
Starting point is 00:28:56 have you ask a question. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The question of the week and every week is Matt Abadaka. What are you playing? Resident Evil Merchant, thank you so much. You're welcome. This is very important that I talk about this right now.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I recently finished Resident Evil 2 I've only ever I've only ever played Resident Evil 4 Those are my Resident Evil Expairnsed best best Remake in particular very good Nope I do like that remake
Starting point is 00:29:27 The remake's fucking great Why you call me on the show Just to hurt me? We're not no I know you got recast In the remake for some reason Your presence is your absence is felt rather Yes But it is still overall a very good game.
Starting point is 00:29:43 It's almost perfect except for one part. And so I'm continuing my journey in the Resident Evil world. Okay. With the latest release, Resident Evil Requiem, the ninth Resident Evil. And guys, I feel like I get called out on this show a lot for the use of hyperbole, saying that this is an all-timer, this is incredible, like just saying every game is good. Who's calling you out on that? People listen to the show.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I shouldn't be paying attention. Yeah, you can just dismiss that out of hand. Let me just, I just want to say that so I can get this out. Yeah. We might be sitting on a generational game here, guys. Wow. This is, I think in some ways, one of the best games I've ever played in this genre. You start, you have two characters, you have Grace Ashcroft, and you have Leon S. Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Grace's segments are in third person, or in first person. excuse me. And it harkens back to, you know, it's like, it's almost like a scary fucking house game again. Sure. Where like you're in first person. She's an FBI agent. She's kind of, you know, new on the job. She's fucking scared. You're in first person. It is the, the halls are tight. There's fucking crazy guys walking around. It's fucked up. It's scary as hell. From the first person perspective of Resident Evil 7 and Resident Evil 8 Village. Yes. And then of course, PT.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yes. And it has those vibes. Like, you'll just like see, you'll hear stuff going on. And then maybe off in the distance you'll see something kind of fucked up. And you're just like, God damn. Then when you're done playing Grace parts, you get your shit kickers on. You're playing as Leon and you start fucking shit up and you're fucking awesome. And you're kind of a zaddy now.
Starting point is 00:31:32 kind of hot as hell. He's always been beautiful. I saw somewhere that he's like, if we're treating his age in previous entries as canon, that he's like 60 now. Yeah. Which is wild to think about. Yeah, he's up there, but he looks fucking good. Yeah. He looks incredible.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Matt, to your point of it being a generational banger, yes. I would like to say that it is currently tied on Metacritic. For the best games by user score of all time. It, it. What else is up there? Our top 10 are Claire Obscure, Resident Evil Requiem. Shit. Metal Gear Solid.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater. The Witcher 3, Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 2 remake, Grand Turismo 4 and Chrono Trigger. Wow. The only game that has been memed into the top 10, which I did not include in the list, but we'll now say, is Disney's Corey in the house? Yes. Right, yes. I do know about this.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Corey, you're on notice. This game's coming for your ass. I don't care whose house you're in. It's not a problem usually in these games. This, it's, it plays so well. The combat feels really, really great. True genuine scares. In particular, in the first person mode.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I like that you have, and you can change. it. You could play Grace's sections in third person and they like didn't do it as an afterthought. It like plays differently. Like instead of like seeing her hands like trembling
Starting point is 00:33:16 and stuff like she'll like trip in third person mode like when she's scared and stuff and like that's like I don't know that's interesting that they did they did both and you might not get both experiences you know and I think the villain so far is very interesting. I won't I'm not going to get until like
Starting point is 00:33:32 spoilers or anything like that. But the story is very interesting. Well, the story is interesting, but I feel like the story in these games is negligible. Yeah. Like, because it's, it's, they're nonsense kind of. Yeah. And that's kind of why they're like, they're fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 It doesn't seem like, well, I don't want to get into too much of it. But it is, is a serviceable story. The game plays perfectly, and it is so scary and so fun, and I'm having a fucking blast with it. Can you describe pacing-wise? Yeah. Like, I intend to play this game. I've not played it yet. But the two characters, like, how long are stretches?
Starting point is 00:34:14 How often are you pivoting between them? So it's an interesting question because I feel like I'm taking longer in the grace sections because I'm more afraid. Sure. Because of, I'm trying to stick to the default intended play-through of her, playing her sections in first person. And so I will like take like breaks while I'm playing it. Like I'll just like pause it and put it down just be like, God damn. There's like, because like some of the fucking, some of the creatures in this thing, no. Nasty guys.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Absolutely not. Like worse than seeing like, I don't know, like a, there used to be just like zombies. Yeah. And now they're kind of just like, here's this thing you've never even thought of. What is that? How does it compare to legs on top, legs on bottom? Nothing is ever going to be like that, I think, but like they've really gone in that. It's just sort of like, I feel like it's sort of their answer to it kind of.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Okay. We're just like they're pushing it to the full extent of like what a zombie could be kind of thing. Matt, I want to step in here because today I also started playing Resident Evil Redoubt. I've only gotten into the sort of prologue area. Yes. And, you know, through the first section of, say, the hotel. Yes. And I started because not only are you effusive about it, but I keep hearing graphical praises for it playing on the PlayStation 5 Pro.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And, Matt, this game looks gorgeous. It looks great on a base PS5, but, like, I've seen the comparisons and, like, it looks crazy on a PS5. You're walking in what looks like downtown Chicago. Yeah. There's an elevated train. It's a Midwestern city. So, you know, where else are you technically supposed to be? The super fans are in it.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And every surface is shiny and wet and covered in rain. And you can go up to a window and you see your own reflection as grace. You, like, go up to the cars and you can move around the cars and see all the storefronts. It really makes you wish that it was an open world game. Yeah. Just so that you could explore that. part of the city more. The section that you're about to experience,
Starting point is 00:36:32 I was like, they didn't even give me a second to dislike this. Like, it was like so fun immediately after the two. It's like so fun. But on the balance, I feel like I'm taking longer in the gray sections. But I,
Starting point is 00:36:49 so far, I think I've noticed that the Leon sections are a little bit shorter, but they're played so differently. Right. Like they like, because, because you're Leon and you can just do anything. Yeah. Like, it's, it's an incredibly exciting video game.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And it's got me into, I want to play all the PS5 ones that they haven't played three. I want to play seven. I want to play eight. I'm intending to do this. This might be the better part of my year. I might be Resident Evil pills. Whoa! Yeah, I might have the T-Virus.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Hmm. I hope it's not Laplaga. Ranch Laugh. I said I might be sick. Is that okay? Are we like okay with that? Are you sure it was Ranch? She's invisible.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Ranch, are you playing it as well? I am. What are you thinking of it so far? I love it so much. Yeah. I loved RE7 and four, so it just like feels like a perfect merger of the two. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I just want to go home and play it. Yeah, I said yesterday, this is true even now. I'm mad every second I'm not playing it. So let's get this fucking over with, can we? That's pretty good. We talked about doing a Dragon Quest 7 remake episode, but I think we've all kind of fallen off of it. Is anyone still playing it?
Starting point is 00:38:12 I played a little bit last night, but I'm not playing it at the speed or the fervor that I'm playing this game. This game is much shorter. I kind of wonder if we should just like pivot to doing a Requiem episode. I'm currently spread across four games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:27 For the, and I never, and that's not counting Fortnite, which is always also played. She's just like me for real. That's a lot of games. You're doing it. Give a nickname for, is Mr. Games cover that you play a lot of games at once? I think it's that, but I think Heather, I bequeath on to you. Right now, you're Mr. Games. I'm just, I'm just some games.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You're Mr. Games. I'm some games. Okay, Mr. Some games. You're Mr. Games, the Xbox Kid, the finisher. I don't want to be the Xbox Kid. no more. Okay, well then we can retire that name. No, let me tell you, as the Sega kid, it really
Starting point is 00:39:02 sucks when the thing that you love goes away, huh? I didn't even like it that much. You're the Xbox fucking kid. I just have it. Oh, you love it. That's the problem. That's the whole problem with the brand. You're the Xbox kid and you're like, it's all right. I guess here's the thing. I do
Starting point is 00:39:19 have both. I am, yeah, I guess just by having it, I am that. Nick, you got to get into this thing. I'm going to play it. About how, I'm going to get it on PC. I was looking at the Steam Store reviews. Like Heather, looking at Metacreaters, I was looking at Steam Store reviews, it's overwhelmingly positive. And I was like, oh, fuck, I got to play this fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Heather, what are you playing? Well, I started Resident Evil this morning just for, so that I could be like, I want to know what Matt's talking about. Yeah. And I got through the first section, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful game. So far not scary at all. I wish it was. I'm just like fucking walking.
Starting point is 00:39:53 First off, she moves too slow. She moves slow. She's so slow. She's scared. She's so scared and I'm like, fucking run into the door. Let's go. Luckily, the guys that you end up running away from
Starting point is 00:40:09 are not too fast. But it gets, I'll say it gets dicey and you're going to feel like she's zooming. Great. Can't wait. Hopefully you feel that way. She needs to move fast. I am much, much farther along
Starting point is 00:40:23 in my oft put off to put off God of War Ragnarok play Okay, you don't know this actually I know this from the discord I know you brought up
Starting point is 00:40:32 the fact that I was pissed off that there wasn't a violence in the game Matt was really mad I got really pissed off But the thing is I'm right So much of that fucking game is You're having dialogue With Freya or something
Starting point is 00:40:48 And it's like You should forgive me For what I did And she's like Are you still looking for, like the other characters comment on how much of the game you spend doing bullshit? Well, they're commenting dynamically, so it kind of seems like, kind of seems like you're just looking for treasure. Hold on. You can't play the game without opening the fucking puzzles because you need the weapons.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah. Like you can't, like, the weapons are blockaded behind bullshit side quests. And, like, Atreus is like, like, like, T. Here is like, where is he going? And Atreus says, oh, he really likes loot. He's got to go look for loot. And I'm like, I don't have to look for it. This is how the game is built.
Starting point is 00:41:35 What I want to be doing is violence. Yes. But don't you find the combat when you're doing it to be quite good? Yeah, I enjoy the combat. I enjoy the combat. There's something about the impacts of the acts and the chaos blades, blades of chaos,
Starting point is 00:41:56 where they don't have like a weight to them that I want. There's like a, there's like you're hacking away with this axe and there's no blood. And there's also no, it's like they're air juggling people. And that feels a little weird to me in some weird way.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Have you, I mean, there's this area in the back half of the game. Probably not there yet. I'm not there yet. But it's like, Unless I am, I don't know where I am. It's almost like an open world. I mean, the game is sort of like this, but like this one area is massive.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And it's just like all. Violence? Violence? I can't wait. Yeah. That's going to be the area that I get to and I just hang out there for a while. It's great. And then I, you know, I say I think it's worth sticking to the end.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Okay. Yeah, of course. Because the end is, I think, very interesting. Yeah. Well, I want to finish the game in part because they're starting to talk. talk about the next one and how it has a female protagonist. And of course, nobody weird is mad. Yeah, nobody's upset about it.
Starting point is 00:43:02 They have already redesigned her to have bigger tits. So they got my letter. Yeah. They were already gigantic. She can't stand up straight. It's now a different type of game where that's how she traverses. So I'm playing those two. I'm playing Dragon Quest as my cozy game.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And I'm also playing another playthrough of Disco Elysium as not a fascist. And that has been so pleasurable to not have Kim so fucking angry at me all the time. What am I like a Kim, Kim's, Kim's the man? One of my, I mean, all of us have it on our top 10 games list. I think it's maybe the only game that's on all three of our list. And it's a game I think about replaying all the time Because I played through it multiple times Each time a little different
Starting point is 00:43:58 And it's like it's there's still so much to see There's so much content like I'll look at YouTube videos of like Wait I've never seen this interaction before How the fuck does this happen? Yeah, yeah Yeah, it's a masterpiece And so I'm enjoying another play through of that I should play it again
Starting point is 00:44:13 Those are my four games Nick what are you playing Heather thank you so much For asking what I'm playing so I've not played Resident Evil Requiem yet because I'm just spending all of my gaming time playing Mugenics. I am fully mupilled. We did our episode, Matt, when Heather wasn't here. And I think I was very positive on the game, but I did talk about how I found the aesthetic abrasive.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And as I played more of the game and I've gotten into Act 2, I think that's receded a little bit. And, you know, it's, it's like the, there's still shit like maggots and, you know, turds. I mean, there's still like disgusting elements, but it's like less forefronted than it is in act one when like you're in the sewers. You know what I mean? So like that bothers me less. I also just like I kind of have warmed up to the thick marker line aesthetic of just like the art. I just like, I was like, I kind of like how this looks. I don't necessarily like how the supposedly human characters look, but the cats are.
Starting point is 00:45:18 are the cats are cute and I think the I think a lot of the enemy designs are really cool especially the bosses that take up multiple squares on the grid the big boys those are those oftentimes look and look and animate have really cool character designs and really cool animation but the thing is it's just
Starting point is 00:45:34 it's such a compelling gameplay loop like it's like I'm having so much fun just playing this fucking thing that like even if there's stuff that bothers me about it I can overlook that because it's just I mean it's it's
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's basically into the breach, X, Slay the Spire, X Pokemon. It's like three great things, two of which are like tailor made for me and some of my favorite games in recent memory. With the roguelight structure that I just find so compelling, I'm just having a blast with it. There's also just like,
Starting point is 00:46:07 it's like this maximalist approach to game design. There's just so many items and abilities. Like just having gone through, you know, you go through multiple full runs, full runs, meaning like you just, like, you get to the, you, you clear an act and then the, your cats retire. But you go through one of those.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And every time I'm seeing something new. It's like, it's like, it's just, it's just kind of staggering how much is in there. And the soundtrack is fucking incredible. Like, it's like, I compared it favorably to Cuphead. It's very much like that. It's like that kind of like, you know, retro. It feels like stuff that would be playing like on, for the intro for a fallout game. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:46 Like all that sort of like, like, like, like, like, like, you know what I mean? like 30s kind of jazz. Yeah. But it's like, so like like either the, the swing era. But then the magic trick they do, which we talked about in the episode, where it's like one kind of late motif playing throughout the entire biome. And then you get to the boss. And then that melody continues, but it turns into a full-fledged song with vocals.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Every time that happens, it's so awesome. It like, it's a thing that like, you know, it knocks my socks off the first time it happens. every time I'm like, oh, I encounter a new song the first time, and then I look forward to it on subsequent ones. It's like, and not just finishing it, but it's like you kind of get like this little treat at the end of the end of this individual, the end of this biome. And if you go through a full run, you get three of them. I love all that. I will say there's a bit of an act two difficulty spike. But like I got to act two, I got through the first biome, the desert, and then I experienced my first party wipe. And then my next run, another party wipe. And the party wipes are pretty punishing, at least at this stage in the game,
Starting point is 00:47:48 because any inventory you have is just basically gone. Yes. Like your cats die, the permodeath, and then like, they have five item slots per per cat. And then, you know, there's also consumables. All that stuff just kind of goes in the garbage. You get to salvage one and I think you can upgrade that guy, the NPC who has like, like who takes your dead cats and then has the lost items. I imagine you can upgrade them over time to have more of your items retained. But in the early going, it's like, oh, shit, I, like, lost all my stuff. And so I'm sending my cats out just, like, fucking buck naked. And I ended up going back to Grind Act 1, which is really fun because the game's super fun.
Starting point is 00:48:28 It's just, your punishment is a reward. You're like, I can't just do this again. I don't know. It's just, I'm just so impressed by this game. I mean, it's certainly my game of the year so far. Maybe I'll feel differently once I play Requiem, but I'm also going to be a game. gotten more into cat ratings, which is so central to the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:43 But I just, yeah, I'm feeling so much more effusive now than my initial impressions as it's really got its hooks at me. My cats, I sent them out to go do something yesterday and they came back and then I had to throw them away. Like how you do in the game. Jesus. What, you're talking? Your real cats?
Starting point is 00:49:01 You're talking in real life. You gave your cats a task? I gave them a task. They came back. They did a good job. First off, already insane. They're pretty smart Like send them to the store
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah I like send them to the store I had them I had them take my car to go get washed They're just kind of like my assistants I don't know I'm just kidding One of the few items of AI content That I've enjoyed is the Chinese soap operas That have been replaced with all cats
Starting point is 00:49:32 I haven't seen this It's just cats Yeah but it's like soap operas Got it with and it's in Chinese. I don't know what they're saying, but they'll like, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:43 be very upset at each other and then one will slap another cat. Yeah. And I'm like, this is, that's fun. This is something. Oh,
Starting point is 00:49:50 I have another thing to add to what my, my eugenics rambling, which is, so you get into Act II, beyond just like the, the different enemies and the different environments of each biome.
Starting point is 00:50:02 There's also sometimes like an added gameplay change. So like in the desert, for instance, you, all your characters have, I forget what it's called, but they have, I think they have heat stroke. And so that means that the
Starting point is 00:50:17 healing effects are like completely muted. Like it's like, like it's really hard to heal your characters unless you're hydrated so you can buy water or have empty water bottles that you can then fill by like say blasting someone with the surf ability, blasting one of your player
Starting point is 00:50:33 characters and then they get, they take some damage, but also they get a bottle of water, they can drink without water, which heals them, and also gets rid of heat stroke and, uh, you know, it allows it so it's, it's much easier for a cleric to heal them. I, I just, I, like, I think it's just one of those things where it's like, oh, okay, there's just a little bit of a, of a mechanical change in this environment beyond just the kind of enemies you're facing. And it's just like, oh, there's just so much, there's so many dimensions to this game.
Starting point is 00:51:02 There's so many layers to it. It is just like a great game that, yeah, you would absolutely hate heaven. Okay. would not like it at all. You would not like it at all. But it is so well designed. And like I feel like every year now there's like a game that not necessarily comes out of nowhere because this has been long talked about.
Starting point is 00:51:17 This game was 14 years in the making, I think, right? This is not Bellacho. This is from a developer who's long established and has made hit games in the past. But a game like this that then comes out and you're sort of like, yeah, this is just good and it just works and it's fucking awesome. Right. It's cool that it exists, even though we had some gripes with it. I mean, I'm coming around.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I'm coming around to it more. I mean, like, I liked, I really, really liked it. I thought it was overall extremely positive, despite complaining about some things. Yeah. That were largely, again, aesthetic when we did our Mugenics episode. Yeah. But again, having more time with it, putting some, putting a lot more hours into it. I was like, I want to put 100 hours in this sum bitch.
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Starting point is 00:59:08 Like hearing it officially, it kind of seems like you've had it for a long time. See, I was sitting, I mean, she has had it for a long time, right? I was two years ago. Oh, boy, it's 2026. I was, I was trying to stay quiet because I thought that might be an edit point. Well, Heather found that in the notes, but I guess now we're locked into it. I look. Well, I guess we could edit out what you just said and what I'm saying to you now.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I don't know. Beinous! So this is a dual OLED display, surround sound speakers, and it does not have a controller. It uses hand gestures in order to interact with the system. But you can use controllers to play the games. And I've brought along the Apple's favorite, which is the PlayStation 5 controller.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Can I just say? Yeah. They're right. That's a good controller. That's a good controller. They're right. It might be one of the best of all time. I maybe slightly prefer the Xbox controller myself, but it is a good controller.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Do you like the Xbox Elite? Have you had this? I do have an Elite, and I find myself switching back to just the regular. You like the base? Yeah, I mean, like the problem with the Elite is it's just kind of like, it's Ungapachka. It's got like, it's got a little too much going on. The back clickers. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I mean, I like the idea. I like, I forget what, I like those paddles. I like those under buttons in theory. What the fuck is, there's a name for the back buttons. Not back buttons. Maybe it is back buttons. What the fuck are those things called? I call them the back buttons.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Back buttons. I think they're called something else. The ass pads. The ass pads. Whatever those fucking things are called, I like them, the ones underneath the controller, but I think the, I just don't like how the Xbox ones feel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:59 And then it's like, you can adjust the weight to it, but it just feels like a little too heavy. And I think all the removal of parts for me make it feel a little chintzy. like it's going to fall apart? Well, they're magnetic, and we'll get to this in a second. I had to put that controller in a specific place because my cats figured out that they could take the little individual parts off and they'll run around the house.
Starting point is 01:01:19 They are pretty smart. Look, they're really smart. Those are smart cats. They're doing my taxes right now. But also you have to dispose of them. Well, yeah, I've got to get rid of them out to this. There are two buttons on the Applevision Pro. One is just like the watch button that dial.
Starting point is 01:01:36 and then the other button is over here. When it tells you to do stuff with the buttons, those are where your buttons are. One button on the right, one button on the left. You adjust the headband by turning this, which makes it tighter or looser. And I'm going to set this up so that I can share... Because it's like an iPad,
Starting point is 01:01:54 so I have to set it up so that it can share the display. Which also will let you guys adjust it to your eyes. Okay. Does it show you my eyes? Yes. Yes, we can. So Heather has... So Heather has the headset on now.
Starting point is 01:02:08 We can see like a distorted, like it's almost like your snorkeling version of your eyes through the mask. Heather is also moving her hands in front of her, which I have to assume with some gesturing associated with its U.S. Yeah, I have to set up so that I can share to the Apple Vision app. So that I can see what you're doing so that I can help you out. She doesn't trust us so she can see what we're doing. I have to see It's gonna be Well
Starting point is 01:02:39 You're not gonna like it It's gonna be P-OV videos of me being Stepped on by Giant Fe Oh no Fee-5-4 phone Right So now you can see what I'm looking at Wow that's wild Which makes it easier for me to be like
Starting point is 01:02:56 Oh no you have to do this or you have to do that Heather is showing us her perspective Of her looking at us and it's very, it's very strange days. That's, it feels, this is, this is fucking cyberpunk. This feels like what, because we talked about first person and third person. Yeah. This is a second person experience.
Starting point is 01:03:16 This is a second person experience. All right. Truly strange. One of you can be the first two demo. Wags, do you want to do it? Sure, I can be the first test subject. He's getting sucked into it. So now this is, yeah, I have the, uh, bring iPhone.
Starting point is 01:03:34 or iPad nearby to start as a guest. Is that mine or yours? I don't know. Maybe it brings... Oh, your iPad. No, it's... Your iPad's asking you to do it.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Whoa. My iPad is asking me. My iPad that he used for the show. Holy shit. It gives me a little thing to... He's stealing it from you. This is new. This is really wild.
Starting point is 01:03:51 This is new because it used to do just a sort of default demo scenario. Now it's going to teach him how to use the interface. And I'll tell you about this while he's doing it. Okay. Matt, which is that you, only click your fingers together. So that's your interaction.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Okay. Right? And when you look at anything in the display, that's your cursor. Okay. So if you look at the corner, if you've got like a cube in front of you and you look at the corner, like it'll show like a little icon, and you can grab that with your hand anywhere and then open and pull the screen to get bigger or smaller. Okay. Now it's having me hold my hands out and look at them.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Put your fingers apart. Hand set up complete You're right, not your first rodeo Okay, so it's teaching me how to gesture to pinch It said tap your fingers together So those little pinchy Sort of a lobster claw mood Select all the diamonds in a circle
Starting point is 01:04:48 That's fun, I'm having a good time And you don't have to move your hand to do it You can just look at the circle Wait, really? Yeah Oh, wow I think that when you show somebody a TV you just turn on the TV and they can just do it.
Starting point is 01:05:03 The problem I think with all of these devices is the initial setup phase is a little bit like overwhelming slash disorienting. Also when I gave it to him it turned off screen share which is a real shame because now I can't help him.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Yeah. If I had a, if I didn't have a Sherpa like Heather I probably would be pretty lost here. This is overwhelming. And I've got to hit so many fucking dots in a diamond pattern
Starting point is 01:05:29 Let's got to set up your eyeballs. Okay, giving me safety warnings, skip all this. Capture. Hey, I'm in. All right. Wait, are your texts on this? Yeah, my, well, it's a full computer. It's everything.
Starting point is 01:05:46 All right, I'm not going to read your text. I might read a couple. So in order to interact with the menu screen, which is very PSVita, you look at the screen and you can click and drag your hand across to. go to different part, no, with the pinching motion. Oh. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Okay. So I have a folder set up that's games, but I also have a section on the second screen that is all of the video interactive ways you can watch video. And I have pre-downloaded NBA and set it up specifically for Nick. Wow. So that he could see the Lakers in immersive Applevision view. That's very cool, Heather. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:06:26 What a thoughtful gesture. Which I did a little bit of earlier today to see what it was like. That's pretty fucking cool. That sounds cool. All immersive games. So there are a string of recent losses. Let's see. Do I, oh, you know, we have this victory over the L.A. Clippers, the crosstown rival on February 20th.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Let's see what happens here. I pinch that guy. How the fuck do I get this to play? I don't know what you're looking at, so it's hard for me to tell. I'm looking at a bunch of squares. Crawl in. Squares? Play game.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Show basketball game. What squares are you looking at? I don't know. It has a bunch of gray rectangles. I think maybe it lost the internet connection. Oh. What it kind of feels like for a second. Oh, yeah, that's not typical.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Hey, you know, I'm having fun with this volume slider. Down and up, down and up. I'm going to try opening up crunchy roll. All right. Let's see what's on here. Maybe I can watch my dress-up darling and immersive 3D. They're putting the clothes on me. Now, I am the dress-up.
Starting point is 01:07:29 up darling. Oh man, the dream. How do you like the pass-through? The pass-through is good. I mean, like, it's, you know, it's pretty, it's what, because I'm, what I'm looking at is a camera of this space in front of me. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:44 So it's like a weird, like it's my vision, but it's not my vision. It's a strange feeling, but it works pretty well. It's Apple Vision. Like, I can, there's Matt. I just touched him. You've never even done that in real life. You know what's a little disorienting is there's times when you press the button on the physical button on the headset.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And there's other times when you do a little pinchy. And it's, you know, with me just seeing this thing for the first time, I'm learning how it all works. Let's try that NBA app. Does it kind of feel like you're home? I'm back in the digital space. All right. So these are games that are going to come on later today. Can't watch those now.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I can't watch those now because this is not a time machine yet. Who knows? Future OS update. Could have time machine element? I mean, one of the most time machine-esque elements there is is that it can make all your photos 3D. So I have photos from my childhood that I've saved in my E cloud. And I can click them, make them immersive, blow them up. huge and I can be sitting in my living room from when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Oh my God. That is wild. Crazy. Yeah. All right. I'm going to like because I just just picking a game, I'm picking Spurs 76ers, even though it was a blowout. I get to see some Victor Wenban Yama. So let me, I'll just hit watch recap and let's see what happens.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I don't watch basketball, but this is just, I will just say this is just a video playing. Okay. So what do I, do you know how I get to immersive? Yeah. I feel like part of the issue might be that this is. is not logged into League Pass, so you might need that subscription to get full games. But yeah, let me go back to, how do I get, go home?
Starting point is 01:09:36 So go home by looking at the gun, and then clicking your fingers together. And it should bring up the menu. Okay. And then swipe all the way back to the first screen. So swipe to the, what would that be? Swipe to the right. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 01:09:52 So then there's Apple TV right here. Yeah, click that. Open this up. and then click on immersive and there's a whole tab on the left hand side of the screen Oh you know what? There are some basketball games here So it's not I think it's maybe through
Starting point is 01:10:07 The other thing Matt is you don't have to He's clicking because it's instinctive to click the thing you're looking at You can have your finger your hand on your lap and just click Oh right You know here I am And you're you're there It is like a you know I'm I go to a decent number of
Starting point is 01:10:25 of Laker games. I'm very fortunate to be able to do so. This is definitely, I'm seeing a Danny Green, the color analyst just like standing there and he's just like a guy. That's great. It's like a guy.
Starting point is 01:10:39 What's his job? This one's red. This one's blue. Oh, brother. So this is like a recap. Let me see if I can fast forward to some game stuff. It is cool. I get the novelty of this.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Yeah. I don't think I can watch a full game like this because I think it would make me dizzy. Can you describe the point of view? So are you like court side or like what's the situation? You're kind of a little bit higher than court side. Maybe like a row three angle, wherever this camera operator's positioned. And this is a baseline camera view.
Starting point is 01:11:11 So what you were seeing is underneath the Clippers basket. And so the Lakers are playing defense. So I can see DeAndre Aiton Domenaten right there. And he, of course, just got absolutely destroyed. It would be funny if the immersive view was like, just like really high up. When they first set you up in the stands, you are in like the deeper part of the stands, I think to be like, hey, this is where you'd probably normally sit. Oh, sure. And now we're going to put you right up on the line.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Yeah, it is really cool. So now it's switched to the camera under the Lakers basket. And I guess so it's just alternating possessions in terms of which perspective it's showing. And, you know, this is not how I normally want to watch a game, but again, the novelty of it, and just being able to look around and see different parts of the court and see different fans in the audience. Where's Jack Nicholson? Jack Nicholson's usually, I'm pointing, he's usually over there by the visitor's bench. But I don't think he's in those seats right now. Although there's probably some celebrities court side.
Starting point is 01:12:22 My son is in movies now. Nick gets up. It tries to look up the shorts. Trying to pants him. I can't see up Brooke Lopez's shorts. I mean, this is kind of cool. It's just like, you know, you're seeing just to feel like you're this close to like LeBron and Austin Reeves and Luca Dantzic. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:12:46 What if they pass you the ball and you have to play? I'd probably do a really bad job. there's a thing that that and now this is more of a sideline camera so it's just kind of it's just kind of jumping around it's kind of giving you different perspective i don't think you have optionality in terms of what you're looking at but it is very cool i totally totally get this there's a there's a thing that a lot of fans try to do which is like like could you score you know like x number of points in an NBA game like could you score four points in an NBA game against NBA defenders and the answer is of course no no they're like there's no fucking way but i also think i think that exercise isn't even
Starting point is 01:13:22 all that useful. I'd rather do just sound like, could you dribble the ball three consecutive times against an NBA defender? Yeah, no. No, I don't think you could. I think they'd take the ball from you.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Like, could you hit off of Shohei Otani. No, no, no, you couldn't. No. Could hit on him. Yeah, could try all day. He's married. Stud. I know.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Nick, would you like to go back to the main menu and get the app, open the app? It's in the games folder on the third screen. Okay. And I think it's called interactive dinosaurs or something like that. Okay, because you said, you know, you pre-installed the NBA app for me. I was wondering if you also pre-installed, you know, one of my favorite games, like Honey Pop 2 double-age.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Unfortunately. The hand gesture becomes very different. He's just... But it's also very close to his face. He keeps like... Trying to pull a visible tits. He starts going like this. You're like, no, no.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Whoa, I can text Mary. Hi, it's me, your wife, Heather. Wait, I don't know how to get out of here. Oh, no, it's no. It's starting to do it. Get me out of here. I don't want to send Mary Heather's wife a link to the Washington Wizards versus Orlando Magic game.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Stop. Stop. How do I get to the home screen? Do the gun. Do the gun. They do the gun. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Oh, and then I get hit the button. Right, great. Thank you. I totally forgot. Okay, so I'm looking for interactive dinosaur. Porta newbie, vacation simulator, retrocrayed, and encounter dinosaurs. Yeah, do encounter dinosaurs. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:03 That sounds like it's going to be scary. I'd immediately start shrieking. Oh, please. Visibly torn an ass for us. Feel free to explore, but stay aware of your surroundings. So I'm supposed to get up and move? You don't, you can. You don't have to.
Starting point is 01:15:20 I don't think I'm going to, because. I think it's going to make me motion sick. Okay. Creatures in this experience can see you and may react to you. Got it. Encounter dinosaurs. Where are the fucking dinosaurs? Here we go.
Starting point is 01:15:31 I think you'll know when they're there. I kind of this feeling that if you saw one, you'll know. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. So I see a butterfly. That's fun. This guy's just kind of flying around like that. That's really cool.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Hold up your finger. You might land on it. You land on my finger? No, he's not doing it. Oh, well. How about this? You like that. Flip you off, piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:15:51 You landed on it Okay, so now I'm seeing a barren rocky landscape. There is lightning, thunder, it's not great weather. Where are the freaking dinosaurs. So here's a prehistoric mammal. Oh, there's a little guy. Look at him. Just a little guy.
Starting point is 01:16:20 What's he look like? He looks like a baby brannosaurus. Although he's got to be, he can't be that. He's too, too small. I can't imagine they're that small at birth. I guess they do come out of eggs. Yeah. I feel like those eggs are probably bigger.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I think that he's seeing a different dinosaur than I've seen. Okay. Now I'm seeing like a, that looks like a, it's not a T-Rex, but that's, it's that type of dinosaur, like a predator dinosaur with a tiny little, little arm, stubby arms that you can't check off with. And then the big, big, meaty legs. He's coming right at camera. And is this a game?
Starting point is 01:16:55 No. Okay. But it's interactive. It's kind of an interactive experience. Is Nick going to die? Can I do anything this guy? I don't know if you can do anything to him. Can I pet him like Nintendo dogs?
Starting point is 01:17:05 He's huge. Yeah. That's cool. He steps out, like it's a screen, and then slowly the screen becomes three-dimensional, and he can step into this physical space. Can you go to Pandora? Not yet, dude. Man, I wish I was in Pandora with Verong.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Never leave This is really cool Yeah, is tails swooshing out at me Now there's another one Maybe they're gonna fight Or get it on You know in Peter Jackson's King Kong When King Kong fights the dinosaur
Starting point is 01:17:32 Yeah, that's a cool part It's fucking cool You know they also do They have a dinosaur Kong fight on the universal tram ride Yeah always fun It is fucking cool It is really cool
Starting point is 01:17:41 I think Peter Jackson directed it maybe Yeah It's fucking sick as hell They still have him Even though there's been Kong Since it's no longer universal It's the right Kong Yeah the right choice
Starting point is 01:17:49 Yeah. This is a cool experience. I'm going to hand this over to Matt because I feel like I could totally hog this for the rest of the episode. I think Matt should experience as well. That's great. I totally get the gimmick here. The gimmick? I don't mean.
Starting point is 01:18:04 You know what I mean. I don't mean that pejoratively. A high-end VR headset. Yeah. That sort of, you know, forecasts a prospective fun future for us. What I'm saying is I understand your silly little toy. Oh, my. Your face computer.
Starting point is 01:18:25 You can also, you can FaceTime with people while you're wearing it. And in order to do that before you FaceTime with them, you take it off and you do a 3D scan of your face. And then it's cameras that are lining the thing, real time do your facial expressions to other people in FaceTime. Does that make sense? And in Zoom. So like the cameras that are on your eyes, it like replaced. I'm having a hard time.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I have a hard time. I sort of know what you mean, but I can't articulate it. But I know what you. I understand. Yeah. Rens, you understand?
Starting point is 01:19:06 Mm-mm. Yeah. It's very Apple to make this all gesture base, but I will say watching it, watching someone else to use it, it feels stranger than watching someone like holding like a, you know, like a controller.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Sure. But I think that. Part of it is supposed to be that you can do it as casually as this, you know? Yeah, I don't even have to like... Heather's hand is just on her lap. And it does like just even watching Heather do the gestures. It's very much the promised future of like a minority report type thing where they have the screens that, you know, pull out from nowhere and stuff like that. It's so cool in Minority Report.
Starting point is 01:19:40 We just got the little gloves and it's like moving the screen around and shit. And it's, I think it's also well acted because it could look stupid and dumb. And they're just like, oh, we do this every day. Yeah. Tom Cruise. knows what he's doing. Yeah. Okay, let's toss it off.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I'm getting here. Okay, so now it's talking to me. Yeah, like the, like the Oculus slash Rift, whatever it's called, it doesn't have headphones. It has little speakers that are near your ear
Starting point is 01:20:05 so other people can hear faintly what is being, with the audio that's coming out. Yeah, you can use it with like the AirPods or whatever if you want, and then you have like full Dolby Atmos for IMAX. Because there's also an IMAX app that will give you the large IMAX viewing screen for our films, which is... That's wild.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Wild. My favorite things to do with the thing is that you can extend your MacBook screen into the virtual display. So you open up your laptop and it'll have like a little floating button above your laptop that says, you know, mirror my display or something. You click that. The screen on your laptop goes dark. It floats up into your visual space. and then you can make that screen as large as you want. And the resolution is 8K, so it's crystal clear for working.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Right. So you can have like a giant virtual display and then also apps floating in your virtual space. Like you can have like iTunes floating over there. You can have a clock map to the wall. It maps your physical location also so that anytime I go back to my office with it, all of my apps are stuck to the wall where I want them to be. This is fucking crazy Okay, safety
Starting point is 01:21:24 Okay, safety who cares Okay, okay, all right So now I'm in here Is there a game That leans into the pinch gesture Like a grandma cheek pinching game Or a ass pinching game There's a snake
Starting point is 01:21:40 There's a game that's like a snake game, right? Where you drag the snake around by pinching the sort of the head of the snake, if that makes sense. It does make sense. Yeah. I clicked on the dinosaur. What are you seeing right now? You're just seeing the title cards?
Starting point is 01:21:54 Just feel free to explore, but stay away of your surround. I'm not going to, is it like if I step on something here? It's going to affect the course of history? I think that's the issue. It's kind of a Ray Bradbury, you know, butterfly flaps, wings. You don't know the consequences, thousands of years in the future sort of thing. I like pinching. Yeah, pinching is pretty easy.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I want to see if the butterfly line on my hand. It did it. Nice. Fuck you, you piece of shit. There it goes. This is great. That's pretty cool. But maybe it's because I have a gigantic head.
Starting point is 01:22:32 It doesn't feel that heavy. Okay, great. I wouldn't want to wear it in my life. It felt pretty cumbersome. We lost ranch. The screen is up. We've lost ranch. She's in the land of the dinosaurs now.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Do you always like it? I like the trope in one movie We're like, okay, well, I get transported to the land of the dinosaurs or the fuck or I get transported to a different time. Or I'm on an alien world. And then there's a part at the end where the guy's like, I'm going to stay. I found my home. You know I love that.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Yeah. I mean, it's basically what Avatar is. It's baseball. It's my favorite moment in any movie I've ever seen. It's the fifth Indiana Jones movie. Oh, yeah. He wants to stay with Archimedes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Fucking ridiculous. They should have let him. They should just let him stay. And then there should have been like, there's like a fucking Greek sculpture of Indiana Jones called like the traveler. This dinosaur is looking at me in a way I don't really like. He's getting really close. He's coming out of the thing. He's in here.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Go back. Get me out of here. What can you play with, so you brought the PlayStation 5 controller. What can you play with the PlayStation 5 controller? Well, there are a bunch of games that I've downloaded. I would say the best one for our purposes is Retrocade, which is the interactive three-dimensional arcade. So you can walk up, like once he gets out of the dinosaur experience, then we'll start Retrocade and he can put an arcade game in the room. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:02 I have, it says controller required for Retrocade. So it's certainly not built for gaming as a primary use case if it doesn't come bundled with a controller. if you have to use some sort of third-party piece of some third-party accessory. There are a ton of games that also are hand gesture games. Sure, yeah. I think that it generally, I feel like what the Wii taught us is that gesture-based games aren't as fun as controller-based games. And I think the issue there is because the largest user base is going to be people who have gesture-based. And I know this thing is like whatever hasn't made a huge impact on the market to begin with because of its high price point.
Starting point is 01:24:41 But it's like how all the dominant games on iOS are touch-based. You know, it's like, yeah, there are games that you can use a controller for, but by and large, the dominant control scheme just comes with what people have. Yeah. Matt, have you set up an arcade cabinet or are you playing on a flat screen? I picked an arcade cabinet, which is insane. What did you pick? I picked asteroids. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:07 But I did what I normally do, which is. skip critical information, and now I don't know how to start it. I need to put an actual quarter in? No, I think one of the buttons, one of the buttons is credits. Oh, bubble bubble bubble. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 01:25:24 I like bubble bubble bubble. I beat bubble bubble bubble with my friend Brandon as a kid. We just spent the whole day playing, not the whole day, but we spent like the whole morning playing. Ex is fire, circle is jump, start is start, and, okay. The other one is insert coin. Okay, I got it. Can I spoil the end of bubble?
Starting point is 01:25:41 Bubble bubble. Yeah. They turn into guys. I think I've said this before, they turn into fucking guys. It's so, it's such like, I don't want them to be guys.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Okay, I do have to stand up, I think, to play. Does it look like an actual arcade cabinet? This looks insane. Yeah, I can't believe this. I'm being the little guy.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I can hear the bubble bubble, like, score, which I know very well, coming from Matt's speakers. I got, I got hit. But da da da da, but da da da da.
Starting point is 01:26:09 I captured all the cool guys. So now I'm reversing up word. It puts a photorealistic arcade cabinet in your physical space. Sorry, I was singing the mobile song. The moment these things aren't, don't look like this. Yeah. It's going to be the best thing ever made. Yeah, I mean, like I look, look, my mind instantly goes to the implications for porno because I think that's what it tends up driving like all tech, right?
Starting point is 01:26:37 It's like DVDs. It was porno. It was, you know, streaming video was porno. While I-Hs was porn. So you've said three things here, but like the driving force of chat GPT wasn't porn. Well, not initially. Yeah, I think it is now. It is, it is now?
Starting point is 01:26:55 I think people are jacking off to that thing. Wow. But I more mean like media. Just even like what they were doing on GROC a couple weeks ago. I more, yeah, right, exactly. But I more mean like media formats as opposed to all technology. Though, you know, people will, I mean, the printing press, like the pornography instantly became a problem. So you think that the first thing people are going to do with the glasses is jerk off?
Starting point is 01:27:16 I don't know if it's the first thing, but I'm just going to say like there are. It's at least a third. We're going to see some new porno. Yeah. We're some new types of porno. Yeah. I also keep forgetting I'm not in front of my microphone. And there are also people in the room, so don't jack off.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Yeah. If you stumble up on some porno. Oh, this bubble ball ball got really interesting. saying insert dick in slot okay that was fucking awesome I have to get out of here I think yeah okay
Starting point is 01:27:43 where am I I'm in the Apple TV Apple immersive video section and there's something called top dogs put it on put it on and it's a picture of a
Starting point is 01:27:56 Pomeranian with a big old tongue out I was open for hot dogs the whole world is gone and I'm just here I'm here in the Apple TV This is Ray G So I'm not going to jack off Unless the G is a soft G
Starting point is 01:28:12 Yeah Oh my God Look at that Dogs are dropping around There's a big old puffy Pomeranian on a chair Hi baby We can't just slip the headset on to Ranch Right and it would be set up again
Starting point is 01:28:30 Yeah Yeah I got it Ranch yeah you're going to have to see this I feel like ranch should see the don't I should see the dogs. We got to do it. Okay. This is great.
Starting point is 01:28:36 It's just a bunch of Pomeranians on a chair, and they're trying to get them to take a picture, I think, or something. They're trying to get in the pose. But they're not fully cooperating. They're a little, just imagine. Try getting a dog to do anything. Yeah, right. Okay, now I'm sort of like on a convention floor.
Starting point is 01:28:51 There's a bunch of Dalmatians everywhere. I'm sure Croella DeVille's looking her lips somewhere. It's also like a full circle. Your screen is like almost completely around you. Yeah. This is, no, this is insane. Yeah. You know, that's what happens in Corella, right?
Starting point is 01:29:07 What? They have their origin story, and it's like, well, of course she doesn't like dogs because dogs like killed her mom. It's like fucking insane. Why do you make her, we don't need to make her sympathetic. Right. She's just an evil lady who hates dogs. That's enough.
Starting point is 01:29:21 We got to let Ranch do it. Ranch, do you want to take the, take my chair? You're just going to blare with yourself in the corner. I like that you open my files. Well, when you said files, I, I like thought that. It was that. I was like, oh, it's not this. But I'm just trying to see what's going on there.
Starting point is 01:29:37 I like important documents. I'm not doing Blair Witch things. I'm just going to the bathroom. I think he's going to do a Blair Witch thing. Oh, yeah. He's crouched over. You got to get her straight to the dogs. The dogs is really good stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:50 That's all I need to see. Yeah. Whoa. What the fuck? What the fuck? So I'm sitting at Ranch's desk. while she sits in my chair. Can I live switch the cameras here?
Starting point is 01:30:07 You can. Wait, hold on. So we're in camera two. That's camera one, camera three, which is Heather single. Hi, Heather. Stop.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Camera one, you've got kind of also got positioned as a wide, but I guess that that's because... That's because Matt was standing up. Yeah, the normal angle is like kind of a tighter two shot on, on me and Matt. So one and two are pretty similar.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Camera four. That's a producer cam. Here I am. All the icons. Yes. So click on Apple TV. I'll tell you I like what I see. What the hell?
Starting point is 01:30:36 This guy's got the goods. Nick's doing a second show. Hey, Apple immersive. Top dogs. Click on that. This is so fucking crazy. They're big. Oh my God, you guys are gone and the dogs are here.
Starting point is 01:31:03 I'm scared. What are you seeing? Are you at the edge of something? It's like the title sequence of top dogs and I'm in this black space and there are these like metal looking dogs running around to me. Like robodogs?
Starting point is 01:31:20 Or like hardcore rockers. So this is scary? I didn't know. I think that's supposed to be scary. There's like a woman and dog right in front of me. They're looking right at me. Ranch tried to pet the dog Wow
Starting point is 01:31:39 Somehow ranch exited guest user Because we can see my eyes on her face Ranch is the top dog I don't know how it works Some Cronenberg shit Yeah It's horrifying Imagine seeing your own eyes on someone else's face
Starting point is 01:31:57 I guess Heather's experiencing it I don't mind it I do have a twin brother That is wild That is true the other I guess our eyes are different though How different are your eyes Are your fraternal twins?
Starting point is 01:32:09 We're fraternal twins So they can't be that similar Well it's a look It's a nifty piece of tech I'm just not sure of it's I think just like in terms of gaming You know it's still uncharted territory Like I mean but that's also the case
Starting point is 01:32:23 With VR at large right It's like there's some I guess beat sabers The closest we've come to like a killer app VR game Right I think there's a there's an an app that lets you tabletop game in this and you can put your pieces down on a table. Like, I think that the best use cases so far are AR games more than VR games.
Starting point is 01:32:45 VR games are great, but you kind of have to have dedicated space to them. I think racing games are really good in VR because you sit down. But like anything else, if you're giving yourself a virtual environment, you want to enter the virtual environment. and your brain immediately stops processing, like my very famous story of me punching the concrete of my fucking garage floor as hard as I could. Like your brain stops accepting that you aren't in the virtual space. So the games where you can put chess pieces out on a board
Starting point is 01:33:17 and play a floating person, or you can play a tabletop role-playing game. There's a card game where you can like hold the cards in your hands. Like all of that stuff is pretty nice. but there's just not the user base yet to incite these game companies to make a fully dedicated Applevision game. Right. The moment they are regular glasses, I think that, one, we will lose all of our televisions on our walls. Like there will be no reason to have a TV at the wall because you'll be able to have whatever size monitor and wherever placement you want for any of your visual experience.
Starting point is 01:33:58 which also is going to make our houses a lot more aesthetically friendly again because TVs are haunting. Yeah. And additionally, there will be like your PlayStation will be like already you can play PS5 on this. Yeah, with the remote play app, right? Yeah. Like you can just like blow up your screen to IMAX size and play lightly laggy. Yeah. Like portal style PlayStation games on it.
Starting point is 01:34:28 But once those apps are, or once the games are dedicated to the actual experience and their glasses, I think everything that we've experienced is gaming up till now is going to become nostalgic. Yeah. Because there's no reason to, like, if they're glasses, you don't need, you don't even need like a fucking Game Boy in your hand. You don't need a switch. Yeah. Interesting. I did like the, I mean, as far as like the way it worked, I liked the, the, the space. computing of it more than I enjoy it on
Starting point is 01:35:01 the Quest 2 which I think is data tech at this point but I liked the idea that like it just has all your stuff on it like it just is a computer which is I think not necessarily the selling point of those other devices that's more like I think those are more geared toward gaming you can do the other stuff with it but I also am just like I think like VR like you're saying like it's like the it's it's the
Starting point is 01:35:28 the gaming of it is is is is is is is nice right like yeah like you have uh we played the fucking blare witch one i don't think the blare witch game we played which was not a which is a port of a pc game um in vr and that game was legitimately nauseating there are like like the movement in that it just it like it just it doesn't work with your brain's perception of what reality is the arcade cabinets are really cool i think that's like that's just interesting and uh i i but like I sort of think that like we're going to get to a thing with like VR and AR type things where like like for me gaming is like third of of the functionality for it because like thinking of watching a movie with that. Yeah. Seems fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Yeah. That seems great. And the environments that you. So I didn't show you any of the virtual environments. Yeah. If you turn the crown, you can put yourself anywhere. So like you can put yourself literally on the moon or you can put yourself in Bora Bora. you can put yourself in on a forest with a mountain in the background.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Yeah. And it's adaptive to the time of day. So you can watch a movie. Like when Mary's not around, because, you know, it's a solo experience currently. Although if we had two vision pros, you can watch a movie together and look over and that person is like a ghost in your space, which is fucking weird. Whoa. But. Like a sheet ghost?
Starting point is 01:36:50 Yeah, like a straight up sheet ghost. But you put the movie over a lot. Lake. The she ghost is doing the popcorn trick. Is that a dick in a bottom of a popcorn box? In your home? The ghost is doing it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:09 It's not me doing it. It's the ghost. This ghost. Did you call it a trick? A popcorn trick? It's not a treat. I think it's been like the trope is that it's a trick. I'm not sure if it was ever,
Starting point is 01:37:24 I mean, it must have been deployed as a trick at some point. Yes. I don't think anybody who's been on the receiving end of the popcorn trick has ever been like, all right. Maybe if they really like it, like, they're just like really horny. I'm super horny and I love butter. Like getting away with one? Yeah, yeah. It's kind of fun.
Starting point is 01:37:43 I think I would scream even if I loved the person. Oh, that's a popcorn? I would be. You would just be like, what is happening? It would be an insane thing to do. You would think there's an animal at the bottom of the popcorn box. Look, it begs the question, why is this ghost doing that? Why am I also, why am I reaching that deep into the popcorn?
Starting point is 01:38:02 I'm going straight for it. For me, when I'm getting popcorn, I'm going straight to the top. Yeah, I'm starting to the top and I'm working my way down. I'm going for the balls. And I'm throwing it into my mouth very fast like Tom Cruise. I love that. It's so funny. He loves popcorn.
Starting point is 01:38:18 He loves it. Yeah, and precision. Did you hear the rumor that he was the one that stepped in at Paramount to like negotiate the deal with Warner Brothers. I buy that. I mean, like, it's like, you know, he has like a partnership with David Ellison with the,
Starting point is 01:38:34 via the top gun, Maverick, and Mission Impossible franchises. Yeah. So weird. Yeah. Anyway, you can watch the movies over a lake and the water reflects the movie, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Oh. Like, you can throw a big, huge drive-in style screen over a lake. Yeah. And there's, like, the light is being caught by the water. And that's appealing. to me because I don't want to do the real version of that,
Starting point is 01:38:59 but I would like to enjoy it in the comfort of my own home. I, you know, I don't want to be too cynical here. It is, it is very dazzling. But I just like, there was a moment when I got my Oculus, I keep calling Oculus, when I got my Quest 2, it's called Oculus at the time, where I was playing things like super hot. And I was like, wow, this is so cool.
Starting point is 01:39:20 This is like the new frontier of gaming. And the novelty wore off so quickly. And I like, I know, I get what you're, You're saying that we're talking generations in the future. But I also think, like, you know, we saw that movie theaters endure when everyone thought they were going to all go away during the pandemic. And it's because people like communal experiences. And I do feel like watching something, especially watching something like sports.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Like, I cannot imagine being in a situation where I'm just watching an NBA game by myself in a VR headset when I could be doing that in like a sports bar or like on TV with my friends. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, when my wife is my friend. So that's what I mean. That's what I mean by my friends. That's no. And so sometimes she doesn't watch the games.
Starting point is 01:40:03 But so I am just watching the game by myself anyway, but I'm just saying it's like different than putting on a mirror. And she's tapping her foot in her watch and let's go. You've had enough wings and celery for one night. Let's get you to bed. I think with certainly within the decade, here's the thing. When when cell phones, when the fucking iPhone came out, people. were like, holy shit, it is definitely not novel anymore. It is just a thing that enslaves all of us.
Starting point is 01:40:31 That ruin the world. So I think that when what you were describing is the novelty is in these VR experiences, I think what sets this apart is the computing stuff that you were talking about. And like throwing multiple screens into my space in order to like work on a script while also like it's, it's just an expanded space as an expanded digital space. Yeah. I mean, I mean, like, the main problem, look, like the fact. Dude, when fire and ash comes out and this is the only way to watch it in high frame rate and at IMAX size, you might want to get one off the used market.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I might be doing one to get a look at it, closer looking for wrong. I think, I was going to say, like, like, I think you're correct that because they, like, the addition of pass through is so huge. the first generation ones didn't have pass through. You couldn't see what was that going on in your actual environment. And that's really like legitimately dangerous and also just like scary to a lot of people, understandably. So that they if not solved, at least address that is like one thing. But you're right that the main thing is just like comfort, how intrusive it is and set up. It's just like, you know, if those things get addressed where it's just like as easy as like, hey, unlock my phone now you can use it versus I got to do all this bullshit.
Starting point is 01:41:51 I was, I mean, obviously, like, it wasn't straight out the box, but it was probably not dissimilar an experience. I was shocked at how quickly I was doing things after putting it on. Yes. And, like, in that, it just worked. And, like, the pass-through, like, our quests probably have, like, rudimentary pass-through, where it's, like, black and white and, like, grainy and stuff, right? But, like, this, it wasn't one-to-one with the room, but it was not so crazy that it looked like I was in a completely different place. And this is the first-generation. The second generation one, apparently, the past is even better, and the holes display is sharper.
Starting point is 01:42:25 I do think that, like, because, like, I mean, just even, you know, you've talked about these, the, the raybans as well. I think, I think we're just like, we're going to get to a point where, like, they're, it's one to, like, those are going to be in the form factor of just regular glasses. Yes. And that is, like, to me, interesting and exciting. I would like that more than a headset. I think the next step beyond that is just, like, a contact lens. Yeah. I think people are going to be hesitant to put contact lens.
Starting point is 01:42:51 is in, but I do think they'll be okay to wear glasses. I think that what Apple's done is, I think the way that the gestures work is really quickly intuitive. Yeah. And especially when you go and demo the Facebook Rayban things, all of those gestures are so counterintuitive that it makes you nauseous to perform them. Whereas this, it's like, oh, I look at the thing and I move it. And it's crazy that that isn't the default, that that language, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:21 When you use an Android phone versus an iPhone, you're still touching the screen the same way. Right. You know, like it's crazy to think that anybody would be coming out after this device and trying to invent their own language for like spatial interaction. I think in time people will adapt to AR contact lenses and that will be their fault in the same way that earbuds have taken over versus over your headphones, even though it's a superior experience to have an over ear headphone because ultimately people don't like shit on their head. They don't like shit on their faces. Yeah. Right. And I also just think that it'll be,
Starting point is 01:43:54 if we are talking about something that that's going to be as omnipresent as our phones are now, the equivalent of that is something that you just have basically implanted in you. Well, I was going to say the step beyond that is why are you going to get, why are you going to get contacts when you can just, this could be your eyeball. Yeah, a new eye. Yeah. Inject it. And it's there. I'd be so angry if I injected it. And then like two years later, somebody's like, oh, I've better resolution in my injection? Shoot, my eyeball lost Wi-Fi. It's like those guys,
Starting point is 01:44:25 it's like those, it's like those guys who got the physical boner implants before Viagra existed and like they're like, so they got like, I got this fucking thing, I got like pump up to make my dick hard and now I could have just waited a few years and gotten a pill.
Starting point is 01:44:42 I did this fucking surgical procedure. You know, we all do things that you know that we feel like we need to do in desperation. Yeah. What a nightmare. I didn't even know that those are types of guys. Yeah, they're guys with like they,
Starting point is 01:44:54 it's like an internal penis pump basically. And it's, and it's for guys who are old, like older, mostly older guys, naturally who are, who are impotent. And you'll see some of those on like,
Starting point is 01:45:05 I saw one guy in these plastic surgery show or, or it's like one of those surgeon shows and he just had to like, it basically is Dr. He's like, look, he's got one of these pumps. It's the old way of doing it. But it works for him and his wife.
Starting point is 01:45:15 So I'm just going to up, like, you know, I'm just going to repair something. in it. So he got his penis pump repaired. Do you bust if you have that? Yeah, I think you can.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Because it is just like you're just stimulating the nerves. Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Ranch left the room for a second, and the conversation took a turn. What did I miss? Darkness. You'll hear it in the end.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Yeah, you'll hear the end. Doesn't feel worth repeating. It's really, but it's very cool. and I'm interested to see where this technology progresses and what Apple's next generation I'm glad that you brought it in that we all finally got to experience it because it was
Starting point is 01:45:55 it feels very premium I was like nervous to like mess it up in some way because like it does feel incredibly nice my neck is now hurting a little bit how about your back um I mean you want me to keep going I don't know
Starting point is 01:46:10 ranch any any final thoughts on this experience I know you just only had it briefly on your head to look at dogs that terrified you. It's really cool. I like it. Cool. Yeah, it's too expensive. It's too heavy.
Starting point is 01:46:27 It's prohibitively expensive, right? But, like, you know, I mean, these are the things that then are going to like, hopefully in time, I mean, become more available. Computers are becoming more expensive? I guess it's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, nothing is good, actually. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:46:44 We don't live in my little fantasy where things are good. Yeah. Everything's bad. No, now we get Costco-sized data centers. So we can make fucking AI porno. When those things could just be Costco's. Oh, man. Don't get me started.
Starting point is 01:46:57 What are we doing? Now I want a hot dog. Hey, should we do a segment? Let's do a segment. All right. I got some video game dudes and we're going to find out of her producer, Rochelle Chen, Ranch. Knows who they are. It's the return of Dude Ranch.
Starting point is 01:47:18 So as of this episode release, the World Baseball Classic, Matt, you as a baseball fan. No, know this. Basically, the World Cup of baseball will be underway. So this is Dude Ranch
Starting point is 01:47:29 baseball cover athlete edition. Whoa. I'll name a cover athlete for a baseball video game. Heather and Matt will guess if Ranch was aware of this dude before. Now, Ranch,
Starting point is 01:47:39 because these are all baseball players, it's not like, we're going through Sonic characters and we're like, who is Charmy? And you're like, I don't know, he's a fucking popsicle.
Starting point is 01:47:47 He's like, no, he's actually a BWet. Like, we get, we'll just go on a yes or no of if you've heard. heard in this person before. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:47:53 And if you want to add any details, like you know what team they're on or you know what position they play, feel free to add it. All right. First up, does Ranch know Shohei Otani? Yes. Yes. You both get a point. Great.
Starting point is 01:48:07 Yeah, I guess I should explain this. The way scoring works is that Heather and Matt get a point if they are correct about whether Ranch does or does not know something. I have his fortnight skin. I have his skin. He's easily the most famous baseball player right now, right? Yeah, I mean, he's probably in at least the top five most famous athletes. Yeah, I mean, I think so.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Yeah. Because, I mean, his just his global appeal is so huge and he's so, like, he's so unique. He's beautiful. Yeah, he's great to look at it. He's big, too. Yeah, he's a big guy. Big, beefy guy. It's still crazy that he's smaller than Varang.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Barang would tower over Shohei Otani. I don't want her anywhere near him. You leave him alone She quorches his ass I got some bets I'd like you to make It's one to one Next up
Starting point is 01:49:03 Does Ranch know Barry Bonds No I'm gonna say yes I'm gonna say no Okay we're split here Heather says no Matt says yes Ranch do you know who Barry Bonds is
Starting point is 01:49:14 I do Wow Matt gets a point I thought there's a chance of this because there is a Bay Area connection. And he played for the San Francisco Giants, most famously. All right, next up, does Ranch know Ken Griffey Jr.? No.
Starting point is 01:49:30 I'm going to say yeah. Matt says yes. Heather says no. We're getting divided. No clue. Wow. Heather gets the point. Not a Seattle Mariners fan?
Starting point is 01:49:40 Heather, your lack of faith in ranch is vindicated. It's not a lack of faith. It's like, I barely know who that is. I should say what games these guys are on. Shohei Otani was on those cover athletes and MLB The Show in 2022. Barry Bonds was the cover athlete of MLB Triple Play in 2003.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Ken Griffey Jr., of course, had his own baseball franchise. Ken Griffey Jr. presents major league baseball. Came out in 1994 for the Super Nintendo. I believe there's also a Ken Griffey game for the Nintendo 64. Can I tell a quick Ken Griffey Jr. anecdote? Please.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Yes, let's go. When I was a kid, we got to pick at school. I don't remember the exact assignment was we got to pick, like, a famous person from history to do a report on. And for some reason, I picked Ken Griffey Jr. And my project was, you had to bring in something that represented him. So I, along with the help of my mom, just, like, made him. Like, we made, like, a full-sized guy, and I brought him to school.
Starting point is 01:50:41 Like an action figure? No. Like a doll man. Like a... Like a full-sized, like, man. Full-so, you're saying, like, a human size. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:50:51 We stuffed, like, you bought, like, a cheap shirt from, like, Michaels or something. And we made it look like a Seattle Mariners jersey and, like, gave him, like, white little, like, pants, like, felt pants and stuff. And my Bob one time, we didn't have anywhere to put him in preparation for the project. So for a couple of days, he, like, sat in a recliner chair that we had. And one time my mom woke up in the middle of the night. and screamed very loud because she forgot that he was sitting there and she thought there was a man in our house. Understandable.
Starting point is 01:51:26 That's wild. Yeah. I don't remember getting that good a grade on it. It's not up at 2-2. You know, I've not thought about this in years. I'm remembering now in elementary school, I did a book report on New York Giants linebacker Lawrence Taylor for some reason. What is school?
Starting point is 01:51:42 What is school? Yeah. And then I read a whole book on Lawrence Taylor. but it was like not for kids and it has a bunch of things about him like doing cocaine I remember sort of reading like a kid's book about Ken Griffey Jr. I think in the you know early 90s or you know he was like obviously just like more famous so I was just like he was just like maybe more ever present in third grade we our reports were all randomly assigned conquistadors oh yeah and so I had to like do a full report
Starting point is 01:52:15 and make a book about Francisco Pizarra. Wow. Who was the guy who was like hunting in Florida for the fountain of youth. And it was like, well, I don't need this information in my brain ever again. It's so funny. Here's a list of two dozen of history's greatest monsters. But it's also so funny, not funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:34 But it's interesting that the reason that we have anything that we have is because some guys believed a story they heard. Right. They're like, oh, there's this magic fountain. You fucking idiot? You came here because of that? What the hell's the matter with you? You'll be singing a different tune when they find that fountain out. Wish you'll have eternal life.
Starting point is 01:52:57 Please, but one sip, sir. It's not up at two-two. Next up, does Ranch know? Derek Jeter. No. Heather says no. I think yes. I sort of, I think so.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Once again, they are split. Ranch, do you know who Derek Jeter is? I know who Derek Jeter is. It gets a point. Because he kind of became famous outside of baseball. He did. I think he was kind of like a celebrity that broke out. MLB, the show,
Starting point is 01:53:29 2023 was the game. That was the collector's edition. He was the cover athlete. Was he engaged to Jennifer Lopez? Was he? He dated her for a long time. I'm thinking of A-Rod. Yeah, I think you're thinking of A-Rod.
Starting point is 01:53:41 All right. Does Ranch know Matt has three, Heather has two, does Ranch know who Jared Weaver is? No. Confident no from Heather. I think I'm going to say no, too. Two knows. Ranch, do you know who Jared Weaver is?
Starting point is 01:53:57 No. Jared Weaver also, I think, I believe played for the Giants at a certain point. It could be wrong. But he was a, which I thought made me think Rochelle might know him. But maybe I'm just wrong about that. Sounds like you don't even know who this guy is. I really don't. I kind of do.
Starting point is 01:54:10 I don't follow baseball. I'm just like this is stuff I researched. That was sort of like, I didn't know who that was. MVP-07 NCAA baseball. Their short-lived NCAA baseball franchise came out in 2007, as you might infer from the name. Matt, you'll be interested to know on the cover he is wearing his Long Beach State College jersey. Go dirt bags. Fuck yeah, dog.
Starting point is 01:54:35 That rips. For people who don't know, the Long Beach State name, the team name for the baseball team is the dirt bags, which is fucking awesome. It is really, really cool. I've always wanted to get, like, it'd be kind of stolen dollar because I didn't go there. But I'm coming from the Long Beach area.
Starting point is 01:54:49 You're from Long Beach. If I got a... I should get one. I went there. A dirtbag's jersey? Yeah, you should. Who is hell? It says dirt bags.
Starting point is 01:54:56 I have no... You know what? I'm fucking getting. What? You just unlocked my new personality. I'm going to start ripping cigs, too. Fucking, who cares? She's got a full kit dirt bags, you need.
Starting point is 01:55:09 With a cigarette behind my ear just in case. What's the mascot for the dirtbag? It's like a guy. I think it's a guy. It's just the baseball team, and I forget what the, it was the 49ers, they maybe changed it. It was the 49ers when I was still there, which I was like, they got to change.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Like, it's like, they're not even doing that. Yeah, they changed it to something else, but I don't know, but I think they, the dirtbags just have whatever the school mascot is. Dirt bags is good as hell. Does Ranch know, Matt has three, Heather has two, who Jason Giambi is. No.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Jason Giambi. Heather has said no to all of them except Joe Hohatani. Yeah, that's right. And so I think just in the spirit of the game to keep it interesting, I'll say yes. Okay. Ranch, who is Jason Giambi, do you know?
Starting point is 01:55:55 I've never heard that name before. Me neither. Another person from the Bay Area played for the Oakland A's. Triple play baseball in 2001. He was the cover athlete. All right, two more. It's tied up to three.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Are the A's in Vegas now? Yeah, they're in Vegas. Stupid. But I think they're playing in Sacramento right now. It's just so, it's everything's so fucking dumb. Oakland Institution just like ripped away from the fan base. They used to have three teams, now they got zero. Well, we used to have hope, cash and jobs, and now we don't got any of that.
Starting point is 01:56:24 Yeah, I know, it's true. Hope Kevin Bacon doesn't die. Okay. Does Ranch know Tony LaRusa? No. Again, no from Heather. No. No.
Starting point is 01:56:35 Who is this guy? Ranch, you know Tony Larusa? No. Tony LaRusa, who is the World Series winning manager, was weirdly the cover athlete or cover coach of the Tony LaRusa baseball franchise of the 90s. Wow. I play video games.
Starting point is 01:56:54 I've never heard of these names. I've heard them so little other than Ken Griffey Jr. That for a moment, I thought Nick was fucking with us. No, these were all... I thought these were like the names from the Japanese baseball game that it was like, you know... trans-provised. Like, it's like words that sound a little bit like names.
Starting point is 01:57:17 You both get a point. There's one more. This will be the tiebreaker. Sleave McDycle. No. You can't do that. I'm going to say no. Ranch, have you heard of sleeve McDycle?
Starting point is 01:57:31 No, is that real? Yes, he's one of the fictional players. It's a little bit of a cheap. From the aforementioned Japanese developed Fighting Baseball, released in 1995. Here's the full roster. These are all great. And honestly, they kind of keep getting better.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Sleve McDiichel. Onsen Sweeney. Darrell Archideld. Anatoly Smorean. Ray McSerriff. Glenn Allen Mixon. Mario McGurla, Wayne.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Raoul Chamberlain. Kevin Noggleney. Tony Smerich. Bobson Dugnut. Willie Dustis. Jeremy Gride. Scott Dork. Shown for coat
Starting point is 01:58:13 Dean Wessery Mike Truck Dwiggett Rortigal Tim Sandale Carl Dandleton Mike Hernandez Todd Gonzalez Benzolles
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Starting point is 01:58:48 Ranchia, are you streaming, planning to stream Requiem? I am streaming Requiem currently. Wow. Do you stream schedule is kind of like whenever? Do you have a set day? Yeah, it's whenever I have time. Okay. Check that out.
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Starting point is 01:59:14 How Did This Get Played Bag? And we're talking all about High Guard. That's right. High Guard, the game that unfortunately is going to be taken down forever in just a few days, maybe now? I think it's taken down the day after the episode comes out.
Starting point is 01:59:30 So you can listen to the episode in the morning, play High Guard during the day, and then say good night to it that evening. Just hit a crisp salute at your television. Unlike Final Fantasy, the realm will not be reborn. No. But we played it, and we have some thoughts. Yes.
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