Get Played - Console Draft: Nintendo Switch

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Starting point is 00:02:00 No, I wasn't sure if she was gonna be remote today if she was coming in. She said she was here earlier, but I don't see her. I haven't seen her yet. I thought it was Hearing some weird distant moaning. Yeah, where's that come? I hear it too Is that coming from that cabinet in the corner? Oh god We just guys I made a mistake. I made a mistake. Heather, hold on.

Starting point is 00:02:31 Let me don't don't don't don't don't look. I'm embarrassed. OK, I was just going to open the door so we could hear you better. You get some fresh air. OK, OK, I won't. I'll leave you in there. What's what is happening?

Starting point is 00:02:42 I I love the Nintendo Switch. We all love the Nintendo Switch. So we're drafting switch games today. Yeah, and I got to thinking You know you can walk around with it in portable mode Uh-huh, and I was like that's like us. We're all in portable mode. We can walk around Oh, I guess I haven't really thought about how portable I am yeah like and then I was like, I've never considered what it would be like, because, you know, when you plug the switch into the dock, it makes it fancier and the screen is bigger.

Starting point is 00:03:15 Sure. Puts it on the TV. So I thought, well, what happened if I dock? So I docked. I docked myself in a switch dock. You docked yourself in a switch dock. You docked yourself in a switch dock. Don't open the cabinet, I'm embarrassed. You crammed your physical form into the narrow slot where a switch console usually rests?

Starting point is 00:03:43 Three quarters of my body are docked. Oh my God. Do you want us to call like, you know, a call for- Nintendo? Yeah, call Nintendo. The order of Nintendo is necessarily, I was gonna say some first responders, you know? Don't call an ambulance out here. Don't call an hospital, I'm embarrassed, call Nintendo.

Starting point is 00:04:00 Well, I think Nintendo will also not, first of all, I don't know why you wouldn't be embarrassed Calling Nintendo. I sort of think in either scenario Neither party is going to know what to do exactly. Yeah for sure a first for everybody involved. Yeah Look, I can I know you don't want us to look in there Could I maybe like hand you like a flathead screwdriver or a pair of pliers to see if that will help me maybe help free yourself oh no Nintendo screws are proprietary oh no oh no what happened what Heather what happened I'm getting updated oh god would it help you if we like turned on

Starting point is 00:04:41 the TV or something yeah why don't we turn on the TV because you know this the doc the doc does have the hami cable linked to their list Okay, yeah, just turn on the TV. We're don't open the cabinet TV on we're turning on Hey, well they there you are on the TV. I worked. Yeah, we can see you yeah I can see you, yeah! Oh wow! Oh man, hi guys! Hi Heather! That makes me happy, I thought this was all for naught!

Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah, you know, maybe this isn't the life you hoped for, but this can just be your life moving forward. I only did this for an intro and I think it's gonna kill me. Hahahaha! We swap in a bigger micro SD card and weigh our favorite mute protagonists as we draft from the Nintendo Switch library. This week on Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played.

Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nicholas Weigert. That's me, Nicholas We Weigert. I'm here with our third host Matthew Appadaka. Hello everyone. Oh hello Hello everyone and welcome back to the premier Video game podcast where we used to talk about bad games Then we talked about good games and now we talk about any games Yes, any and all as far as I'm concerned And we usually go by nicknames, but sometimes we go by full names today. We're formal. Yeah, yeah Yeah, for no particular reason I want to start this week out off by saying recording in court or anything Yeah, I have spent a week

Starting point is 00:06:38 Astonished that Matt Appadock I didn't like Kingsglaive and I cannot I'm stunned. You're stunned I didn't like Kingsglaive, and I cannot I'm stunned you're stunned. I'm still stunned I feel so bad about this because I haven't thought about it a second more Poor Heather keeping her up at night staring at the ceiling. Why didn't he like it? No, I do I I weirdly do think I'll revisit it at some point. Like whenever I'm about to start Final Fantasy XV, I think I'll pop it on again and give it another shot. All right. Rochelle, our producer, AKA Ranch,

Starting point is 00:07:15 did you watch Kingsglaive, the Final Fantasy movie? No, I did not. Okay, good. You made the right move. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting that it's been occupying your thoughts. We don't need to re-litigate it. We've talked about it like, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:31 We definitely don't. We definitely don't. I just wanted to open up by saying I'm shocked at the emotional impact it had on me that I was so certain about something. Also, this is an interesting, we don't usually have continuity in our podcast and This or this feels like to be continued on just a thought Which is that I can't I just can't believe it can't believe it

Starting point is 00:07:54 But I also did not know you had such affection for this movie. I thought you were kind of like oh yeah kingsclave It's pretty good. I thought it was the opposite. I thought you're like, oh, it's bad. We should watch it because it's bad No, it's so it just falls Deeply in between those two posts Got it. So you don't think it's pretty good and you don't think it sucks But it makes me feel it makes me certain certain elements of the movie make me feel we don't have to do this We did this last week. All right, then let's not let's move the movie make me feel, we don't have to do this, we did this last week. All right, then let's move on.

Starting point is 00:08:28 Let me wrap up your thought. Me? Yeah. I'm Kingsglaive-pilled. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I threw in a heads up that we weren't gonna do a We Play You Play, but we decided to swerve and do one. Not of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, but of the other big game of the moment. We are going to do an episode about Helldivers 2 next week. So We Play You Play Helldivers 2

Starting point is 00:08:59 coming next Monday, March 25th. That's right. I'm looking forward to that. I know people are playing it in the Discord. Yeah. None of the three of us have started playing, so it's not like, oh, wait, you know. I've did my toes in there. Matt's messed around with it.

Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh, oh yes. I've gotten in there. I've spread a little democracy. Yeah. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah, the point of the game is that what they're doing in the game is good, right?

Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just taking it at face value. Yeah, it's good, and I'm confused and mad when people say that it's bad yes yeah but I think it's because I'm an idiot but it rocks I can't wait to honestly I mean off pod let's pencil in a time to squad up we We are 100% gonna squad up. Oh yeah. Rochelle, you mess with the Helldivers too? I haven't downloaded, but I haven't played it yet. Okay, if you're gonna hop in, you're welcome to join.

Starting point is 00:09:51 Oh my God, I would love to squad up. Hell yeah. Look at us. You're playing with ranch is gonna be pure chaos. Is it? I'm more excited to do it now, honestly. Ranch is gonna play, this is gonna be good. Hey buddy, it's Watt.

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Starting point is 00:11:31 to ask you what it is I'm playing. You guys heard about this musical guild? Yeah, I mean, yes, the the union that represents musicians are performed for film and television. So if you sing a song, it's yours, and you make money off it. So that was the, what have you been playing song? Your contract, no, this is the thing that I know what you're trying to do here. You're trying to add things to your contract so you can get paid more. You get paid a lot for what you do, And I think it's a really, actually,

Starting point is 00:12:07 this is kind of messed up. It's not very nice that you're trying to add stuff to your contract like that. I call your pay rate exorbitant. And hey, I support performers being paid fairly. That's right. But you are paid a lot for what you do. But yeah, you can't just be like adding services

Starting point is 00:12:22 on top of what you're contracted for and then expect to be paid for them. So you don't want a song? Is that what you're contracted for and then expect your pay to pay for them. So you don't want a song? Is that what you're saying? You don't want a song? No. I don't think we necessarily need a song for this point in the show.

Starting point is 00:12:31 And in my experience, songs typically have music as well. You kind of just said things in a way. Yeah, if what you just did to you comprises a song in your view, I would just disagree with that assessment. Yeah, 100%. I would call it something else. Is it legal for me to sing Happy Birthday yet?

Starting point is 00:12:54 I think it actually is legal now. That's become public domain. It's been legal for a long time. No, not for a long time, but in fairly recent past. But there's no reason for you to sing it, because as far as I know, no one's birthday in this room. Yeah, what if it was my birthday? Oh, is this a circuitous way of letting us know that this it's your birthday Resident Evil yes

Starting point is 00:13:13 February 22nd 1941 Don't don't um don't date this because this is gonna come out it's gonna come out later, okay? So just don't make it seem like that's the current date because it's clearly not right What it's not did I forget my own birthday? I mean today is if we're gonna time stamp it it is March 14th yeah March and what date? Did you say January 22nd. I said Cheb-u-ary 22nd. Cheb-u-ary.

Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah, I thought you said Cheb-u-ary. I heard January. I want to hear a normal thing. Your brain was trying to process it into a normal month name. Not some invented month. No, it's not. You just got different months than me. That's fine.

Starting point is 00:14:00 We've already done this calendar thing. We can't do this again. People who are like, didn't want to hear about it. We can't do this calendar thing. We can't do this again. People are like, didn't want to hear about it. We can't do more calendar stuff. But also like, you know, there is a question of what reality the Resident Evil Merchant actually lives in. Do they live in some sort of parallel universe where there is a month of Chebuary?

Starting point is 00:14:19 And so what they're saying right now is nothing particularly abnormal from their perspective. And we know that there's a different president of the United States in that game. There's definitely a different president, yeah. Not my president. Right. Matt, you said it so I don't have to. But there also are things like the United States and Spain.

Starting point is 00:14:34 There are like real, you know, territories. So there's some commonalities there. You want to know where I'm from? Yeah. So you know multiverses are like, like side to side on a universe, right? Like, oh, the universe to the left of you. I do know this. Okay. The universe to the right of you.

Starting point is 00:14:56 Sure. My universe is five seconds behind you. Always chasing. So you're just in kind of like an alternate timeline of our reality. But backwards, just five seconds. Just a little bit behind us. Got it. I do remember saying earlier that our show doesn't have continuity.

Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. Well, now it does. There's a little bit of a mindfuck trying to think of what that means to be your living five seconds behind it. Does that mean that everything that's happening to us is about to happen to you? Yes. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:15:33 But it sucks, I can't do anything about it. I'm like Dr. Manhattan. That sounds awful. Sucks. It's like if I'm like in your house and you guys are like taking a shit, oh god, now I'm taking a shit five seconds later. That's how it works.

Starting point is 00:15:51 I'm hoping you're not in my house while that's happening because you're not invited in. And I hope you're also on a toilet, I guess. And also, I guess I need more than five seconds. I'm now like just putting together all the piles of human shit I found like in my hallway. But in a sense, it's probably also a relief. Yeah, at least I have some clarity on where that's coming from. It's not just like a feral man living in my crawlspace. I mean, I guess there kind of maybe is. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:16 Guys, I saw something. Speaking of contracts, I saw something in my writer that I want to I want to run past you guys because it's's gonna happen at some point in the future. Okay. I do get to appear for one complete episode. That is true. That is in your contract that you do have a guest spot. Why did we put that in?

Starting point is 00:16:38 It was like one of those things where it was like, look, this will close the deal if you just agree to this one thing. You're like, all right, fine, yeah. And we thought we could just kick it down the road in perpetuity, but at some point, the chickens are gonna come home to roost. Resident Evil Merchant can book themselves as a guest.

Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah, I'm gonna do it for one of the weeks that Heather can't be here. And it'll be great. It'll be great, we're gonna have a good time, boys. Maybe I'll do it in studio. I'm sure yeah Yeah, it's an option as long as you keep the locker room talk to yourself What we know that sometimes? Room I've been changing on Sunset Boulevard

Starting point is 00:17:19 No, I just know sometimes like to run that mouth of yours and in ways that Nick and I don't find appropriate metaphorically Well, it's not gonna be this episode so I'm just here to ask you Wow, what are we playing? Um are Heather and I still playing the same game or have you stopped I so my schedule just changed a bit and I have continued to play. Okay. Final Fantasy Rebirth, but it is not until, say, tomorrow or the next day that I will be able to put in any significant time. And that is in part because the new Fortnite chapter

Starting point is 00:17:58 dropped. And that's what I would like to talk about this week. Please. Because holy shit, it is so fucking good. It is the best season I have yet played. Wow. Really? Yeah, so it's Greek God themed. They've added two new POIs or like areas

Starting point is 00:18:18 where there are Greek gods to kill. And when you kill those Greek gods you gain their powers So if you go and beat Hades who is not like Disney Hades He's like a dude who sits on the throne and like calls forth the minions of the underworld but he him You get you get a power that allows you to drain the health and put it in yourself of anybody that you kill So it's siphoning. Oh, that's cool. Oh, cool. If you kill Cerberus, you gain the ability to teleport three times, which then recharges,

Starting point is 00:18:51 like his three heads. If you kill Zeus on the other side of the map at Mount Olympus, which is very, very beautifully designed, huge high mountain overlooking the entire island with a giant statue on the top. And you can go all the way to the top of the statue and you can snipe from there. But if you kill Zeus, you get like a super sprint

Starting point is 00:19:14 and sort of like an ultra jump, like the way a God would jump. And then if you kill Ares, also in the Mount Olympus area, you can get stronger weapons. All the weapons you pick up are stronger than normal. In addition, they have added lightning bolts that you can hurl from the sky as if you were Zeus. Wow. Yeah. And Icarus wings. And the Icarus wings allow you to fly. So now the game has become this sort of like, it's not just a horizontal game, it's also a game that involves the area above you significantly.

Starting point is 00:19:50 Wow. And my favorite part about the Icarus wings is they only last a certain length of time. And the way they visually represented that is that the feathers on the wings burn as if you're flying too close to the sun. Wow. So it's just, it is such a fast paced, fun, like reinvention of Fortnite. And I have been playing with people on the Discord

Starting point is 00:20:19 and also my main squad of IRL friends. And we have not stopped laughing, which is which feels like old fortnight to me. It feels like the first time you the three of us played. And it was like, yeah, you can jump on this warthog and ride it. Or you can get in a car and fill it up with gas or plant a plant. Like it's so much stuff that just read as chaotic and now all of those disparate flavors are mixed together under a Greek God theme.

Starting point is 00:20:58 And I fucking love it. I love the battle pass. Cause you can get like Aphrodite or Medusa or like I care about those people so much more than say and I know this is gonna you know not be a home run in this room but like I would rather have in Cerberus as a skin than Peter Griffin. How dare you? I'm done. How dare you criticize our modern myths? Yeah, get on the show. How dare you? Did they ever do like a, you know what,

Starting point is 00:21:34 Greek myths style Family Guy anthology episode where Brian was Cerberus? It sounds good. It was like a natural thing they could do. That's, I'm on board. I love it. If you like Greek myths, maybe you should watch the show on Fox that I wrote for crepopolis Wow

Starting point is 00:21:52 Which is about yeah, it's out. I'll watch it check that out. I love Greek. Check it out Yeah, can I ask real quick because you were talking about you kill a god what how does that work exactly? Is that like a raid thing? Do you need to get a bunch of other players to do it or can you take, can you take them down one on one? No, you can take them down one on one. It is you go into their temple and in the funniest bit of like fortnight animation, there's a statue of them and you go up to it and you grab it and topple it onto the

Starting point is 00:22:23 ground which angers the god. And so they send first, usually a wave of their minions or followers or wolves or whatever at you. You kill all those guys and then the god shows up and it's kind of just like a regular boss battle in Fortnite. So it isn't, oh, you've gotta get like 18 to 20 people to take this thing down.

Starting point is 00:22:47 You can take it down solo or in a squad, but also you take it down with regular guns, which is funny. Or if you have the ability to drive a car into it, you can hit it with a car. Like all of the standard Fortnite antics apply. Wow, that's cool. That sounds fun. I love it. I love it.

Starting point is 00:23:11 Matt, what are you playing? Well, I'm still playing. I'm trucking along in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, and I don't want to, I'm not going to like, I haven't gotten to anything that would be considered like a spoiler, I think. Sure. I haven't gotten to anything that would be considered like a spoiler. I'm sure I'm still in chapter 4 I did text you guys over the weekend that I was 26 hours into the game and only Like 23 percent done with the game, but My remake playtime was 52 hours at a hundred percent like of finishing the game

Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, so I I think I'm gonna be playing this game for a while So I think it's good that we give ourselves a month buffer because it's it's pretty meaty if you're doing all the side stuff but I've been really impressed with some of the stuff that they've brought back for this one from the original game because like There are a couple things while I was playing the original that I was like, how are they gonna do this? This is such a, there's a mini game in the original where you have to, you're with this Shinra army that you have to make your guns,

Starting point is 00:24:20 you have to do a little thing, you flip the gun around and stuff, and do like you're in color guard or whatever But they have that in this game, but it's like a rhythm Minigame and it is so fun. It is just like so like delightful and fun And you have to like go around finding all these like different infantrymen to add to the squad that was really great and then there's the of course right before this there's a moment where you have to Ride like a dolphin there's a dolphin in the original one that like you have to go a certain way

Starting point is 00:24:53 So it can toss you up on like a pillar so you can do this next thing and They made that just like a like a timed like little race thing that you have to do with the dolphin I was like I I love the dolphin like that was really great But I've been really just enjoying Switching out my party playing with a bunch of different of the the characters and just really it's just it's all I've been thinking about recently like I really love the game. It's It's really taking over my brain in a very significant way. I I love it. It's um I Had a thought while I was playing it. I was like is this like my favorite is this like now my favorite game

Starting point is 00:25:34 I'm not even done with it and like it's just this like Final Fantasy 7 Has been such a big part of my life for the last two months Yeah, it's like it's it's everything to me right now. It's it's it's wonderful What who do you do you have like a favorite party member to play with or favorite crew? You know I love Tifa, and I know that this is like a basic It's maybe I'm basic because I see a lot of people arguing you know because I see a lot of people arguing, you know, Aerith versus Tifa, and I hate to draw a line in the sand. I would die for Tifa, I think.

Starting point is 00:26:12 I remember from a combat standpoint, I remember Tifa being fun to play in the first, in Remake. Yeah, because she has like fast punches and like does like somersault like kicks and stuff, and that's pretty cool. And Aerith is good and fun to play as, but the magic is a little slower to me. And I like to get in there and I like to finish,

Starting point is 00:26:28 I like to finish a fight quick. So my team right now has been Cloud, Red 13, and Antifa. And it sounded like I said, Antifa. And that's kind of like what they are. Yeah. That is what they- It is. Yeah. They're eco-terrorists.

Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah. And I just is what they are. They're eco-terrorists. Yeah. And I just I love it. And like I I know what I'm about to get into like the next like chapter I know. So I'm really excited to keep keep proceeding. But those are the updates I have for it because I don't want to spoil it much more of it Okay, but Tifa if you're listening. I'll do anything for you and deep of your listening. We'd love to have you on yeah, Tifa Yeah, if also yeah, if you're a video game character, and you're listening you can come on the show anytime Resident Evil version art is definitely gonna hear that well If you you you guys are familiar with Hall Pass, of course. Everybody's familiar with the Hall Pass. Yeah, so what are those movies like,

Starting point is 00:27:28 like Sliding Doors or like The Bucket List where no one actually likes the movie, but it made an indelible imprint on the culture by giving us a phrase that's shorthand for something. Yes. So would you say that Tifa is your video game Hall Pass, Matt? Hmm. Would you say that Tifa is your video game hall pass Matt? Hmm what can I say so my fiance doesn't get mad? I mean you could start by saying Tifa is not real so it's not real so it's allowed

Starting point is 00:28:01 Mitch Hedberg used to have this joke where he was like people would ask me if I have a girlfriend and I would say no, but I have somebody who would be very mad if they heard me say that. No, look, it's just a harmless little crush on Tifa. I'll never meet Tifa. Of course. You know, she's just good at fighting. It has nothing to do with her appearance and how she treats me in the game. Sure.

Starting point is 00:28:21 Like a million bucks. Like I'm the best guy in the world. If she said, I love you, I wouldn't try to kiss my TV How she treats me in the game sure like a million bucks like I'm the best guy in the world If she said I love you, I wouldn't try to kiss my TV or something Okay, so so yes, she's my hall pass He said it I Guess I'll ask myself myself what are you playing? Oh! Well... Thanks, Wyger, I'll field this one. No, Nick, I was just kinda coming down from an experience I was just having.

Starting point is 00:28:51 Nick, I'm dying to know actually. What are you playing? Matt, I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3. But I'm not gonna talk about that. Because as I said... What the fuck? I'm playing my Baldur's Gate three darker genre mode play through and I'm not gonna give

Starting point is 00:29:08 any further Baldur's Gate talk until I finish it. Instead, I'm going to talk about another game, a little to the left, which just showed up on game pass in February. This is a puzzle game that was developed by Max Inferno and was originally released in November of 2022. I remember hearing lots of pleasant things about this. It is a cozy, cozy game about sorting household objects.

Starting point is 00:29:34 And kind of like WarioWare, but without the time pressure, if that makes sense. They're kind of like, oh, here's some really small contained discrete tasks that you just sort of figure out and then you do and you lazily do it your own pace. You're not judged by how long you take and then you move on to the next one. It has this, you know, the art of everything looks very hand drawndrawn and you know just kind of like this this sort of general fuzziness to it that I guess chill wave would kind of be sort of an aesthetic some people would would would ascribe to this I'm not sure if that's exactly right but it's that sort of thing that sort of like you like a coffee talk I

Starting point is 00:30:21 guess sort of chill vibe sort of game. Okay. So the way these puzzles work, it will be things like, for instance, an early one is there's a bunch of photos that are on a wall and they're all like a little askew. And so what you have to do is just take all the framed photos and put them aligned so that they are all correctly at right angles and they all look straight.

Starting point is 00:30:47 And then if you succeeded that, you move on to the next level. But there will also be things like there's a bunch of frame photos on the wall and they're already all aligned. And so you have to think for a second, okay, what exactly does the game want me to do here? And so for instance, there's one where what you have to do is line up the horizons in all the photos. So you see some of the photos were taken at an angle and what the straightening that you have to do is actually skewing the photos so that they look like they're gravitationally correctly oriented.

Starting point is 00:31:23 There's things like arranging pencils in order of how much lead is left. But then there will also be an alternate solution to a puzzle like that, where you'll be like, OK, you can also get an alternate solution by arranging them in terms of how much eraser is left, from most to least, or vice versa. And there is a very just spoon feeding

Starting point is 00:31:47 in-game hint system, which you can use and which you're not punished for, which is basically just like a drawing of the completed puzzle that you can use an eraser to scrub off as much or as little of it as you want and use that to guide you in terms of how to find a solution. It's pretty good.

Starting point is 00:32:04 That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I like that. But the thing is, you don't have to figure out just the solution. You have to figure out what they want you to solve. And that's where the in-game hint system comes in. Because I will say, as much as I am enjoying this quite a bit, it is very fun. It is very cozy. It calms you down.

Starting point is 00:32:21 But some of the puzzle solutions to me feel a little arbitrary and unclear. Like, you will be like, okay, I think this looks like some sort of solution, but what it actually wants me to do is something a little bit different. For instance, like the books are arranged by height. Like, okay, well, I got to send these like a – I got to arrange these like ascending stairs, but what the game actually wants me to do is ascend them so I have them set up. So it's like, they

Starting point is 00:32:50 can they go down like a valley and meet in the middle at the lowest point, you know, which is a sort of thing like you can, you can eventually figure out by experimentation. But to me, that those are ones where I'm like, well, I'm not sure why this one solution works. And this other one isn't what they're looking for. But there are other ones that are very satisfactorily, like, oh, I see exactly what they're doing. And those are really, really fun

Starting point is 00:33:12 when you puzzle those out exactly. I'm not sure if it's an easy game to play if you're someone who has issues perceiving color because a lot of the puzzles or a good number of the puzzles are reliant on like the color spectrum. And I just I don't know what the color blindness mode that's in this game, what what that does exactly to adjust things. So that's the thing to be conscious of. But you know,

Starting point is 00:33:38 it is on Game Pass. So I think it's a great Game Pass game to just sort of check out and mess around with. And I know a lot of people played it when it came out, but it was new to me, and I'm glad I've spent some time with it also Matt I should note. This is a cat game. It's a big-time cat game Okay, yes cats are a presence and cats as you know like to cause disarray And that's a thing that happens in this game So you'll get your study you'll have your little plate of breakfast foods all arranged and all of a sudden cat ball reaches in There and must is everything up

Starting point is 00:34:05 But it's a lot of fun. I've yeah, I have this game wish listed, but now I know it's on game pass check it out Let's around yeah, it's not super long. It's not it doesn't have a ton a lot to it But what it's trying to do it does very well I was sold as soon as you said it was like WarioWare with the time limit and that's my zone. Yeah, I love it Love it. I also there was that, did you mess around with that, the new, you messed around with the new WarioWare. No. Not the newest one.

Starting point is 00:34:32 OK, because there was two new ones. There was the one that came out for Switch, and then there was one that you had to get up and move your body. Yeah, I played that at a party. Not that one. I loved it. Yeah, it's good. It was so, if there was a visual component to the show, we would have to do it. Like, it's good. If there was a visual component to the show,

Starting point is 00:34:45 we would have to do it. Like it's so funny. It's a hilarious game, but I don't own it. So maybe someday. ["Skyward Roach Theme"] All right, let's get to the meat of what we're doing today. Nintendo Switch draft. Now look, we've done console drafts in the past on the podcast.

Starting point is 00:35:13 PlayStation 1, PlayStation 2, Nintendo 64, Nintendo DS, the GameCube. Only Nintendo and PlayStation systems so far actually. We should probably, Sony system, we should mix that up. But we wanted to do something a little bit more contemporary and it feels like, you know, the Switch is kind of drifting towards its end date. Was that your way of teasing that maybe we might do a Dreamcast, a Dreamcast draft?

Starting point is 00:35:41 I'd love to do a Dreamcast draft. Dreamcast draft, Xbox 360 draft, you know. Draft cast. Yeah, love to do a Dreamcast draft. Dreamcast draft, Xbox 360 draft. You know. Draftcast. Yeah, we can do a Draftcast. Yeah, we can do a Draftcast. We're doing one now. Oh, well.

Starting point is 00:35:53 You mean Dreamcast though, Dreamcast natural Draftcast. No, now I understand. Yeah, that is really good. That is good. Yeah. Shenmue. There it is. I guess Mac gets the That is good. Yeah. Shenmue. There it is.

Starting point is 00:36:05 I guess Mac gets the number one pick. The Switch launched globally on March 3rd, 2017, north of 139 million units have shipped. It's closing in on the PlayStation 2, which is still the number one console of all time with 155 million units. At some point, it will surpass it. Moby Game says there are 10,888 games that have been released for the Switch globally. It's a lot of games. I think pound for pound, dollar for dollar, it's really hard to argue that the Switch

Starting point is 00:36:37 hasn't been the best system of all time. And that is saying that I say that having not really picked up my switch in like, I bet a solid nine months, at least, I still think it's like, it's astonishing that it exists. I think that all of the next consoles will probably be similarly, I don't know, like it there, I think it's going to be all Steam decks or switches Next right. I hope so just as long as you can actually download games to it Not everything has requires an internet connection at all. Yeah, that'd be really nice

Starting point is 00:37:13 I was thinking about how I think on my switch alone I think I have a lot of games on various consoles I think the switch has a bulk of my games by like a lot. Like there's because it's they always have like indie games on sale and stuff or like other not ever Nintendo first party games on sale usually but I have all those like I there's a lot going on on the Switch. Look the case for Switch is strong. First off it is both that you play it use it at home console and you can use it as a handheld Secondly as you were just saying there is a vast indie library of great games that are very very playable in

Starting point is 00:38:01 In some cases their ideal form on switch and then of course, there's Nintendo's first party wares which are Are very much their their own thing and our represent represent some of the very best that gaming has to offer. I totally agree with what Heather is saying. I mean, if I have to pick one platform, I probably pick PC, but if I have to pick one console and it's like, hey, this is your console, this is your only option, I guess I probably do go with Switch because yeah, again, you get your console. This is your only option. I guess I probably do go with Switch, because yeah, again, you get the Nintendo first party and then you get just so many other games

Starting point is 00:38:31 and you can play them wherever. In doing the research for this draft, I came across two games on the Switch that I've never even heard of that are in the top 25 Metacritic ratings for the Nintendo Switch. And yeah, there's a couple of visual novels that I think are really, really well regarded that yeah, I have not played. Yeah, it one of them is yeah, so like one of them, a game that is more highly rated than Tears of the Kingdom on the Switch is,

Starting point is 00:39:05 it's called, it's a visual novel called the house in Fata Morgana. And I've never even heard of this game. And it is a 96. Like if you had to sit, if you, it's like, okay, you've got to, you're stuck with one console for the rest of your life. It feels like the Switch has, again, outside of say Steam Deck or where it's like a PC library

Starting point is 00:39:28 that's infinity, like it feels like the best console. Yeah, I mean- Another one that I heard of, that now I wanna try and I wanna download as soon as we're done with this podcast is a Castlevania, Metroidvania game based on one of my favorite old anime, Record of Lotus War, and the graphics look just charming as fuck.

Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah, I have heard of House in Fated Morgana. It is a, I think it's multi-platform, but it is one of where I think it got a plused up Switch port that is, you know, maybe I'm wrong there, but I think it is at least one of the definitive versions of it. But let's get into this. Should we do this snake style? I think snake style works. Okay, great.

Starting point is 00:40:17 Snake style. Exactly. Which of us wants the first pick? Because I feel pretty flexible and pretty able to go wherever. So I think that Ranch should think of a number. Okay. And we should each say a number

Starting point is 00:40:37 and then whoever comes closest to that number gets to go first. Okay, are there parameters for the number or is it just like any number? One to 100, I first. Okay, are there parameters for the number or is it just like any number? One to 100, I think. Okay, and then what if when we ask Ranch what number she's thinking of, she says a button. Just says something insane that confuses us.

Starting point is 00:41:02 Ranch, you're not gonna do that, right? No. So yeah, any number between one and 100 I Rancha not gonna do that right So yeah any number between 1 and 100 don't tell us what it is And we're guessing we're gonna guess okay. Got got it. I like that. This is like We're this is the first time we've ever like we've ever randomized that yeah, then some randomizing air I'm gonna say my number first okay 57 all right great number good number Jimmy Buffett number RIP Yeah, we've done some randomizing here. I'm gonna say my number first. Okay. 57. All right. Great number.

Starting point is 00:41:26 Good number. Jimmy Buffett number, RIP. I was looking at Nick's, so I was just saying his age. Oh. Oh, why? I wish I could order off the Denny Senior menu. Honestly, I wish I was in my mid to late 50s. It would just be great.

Starting point is 00:41:41 I'm gonna thrive. I'm gonna say the number 36. Hmm, okay. I'll go higher, I'll say 80. Ooh, okay. Now Rochelle, you have an opportunity here to do this however you like. You could do it prices right rules,

Starting point is 00:41:58 closest without going over, or you could still just do closest to it, whichever, I guess there's only two options. Yeah They have two options yeah, I Guess just closest okay because Price is right rules. No one would get in Wow Wow What's the number? Okay, which number is closest to a button?

Starting point is 00:42:32 27. 27, okay, Heather is closest. All right, snake style. That means Heather, then Matt, then me, because I was furthest away. Okay, oh yeah. That all said it, and I'll do two picks on the turnaround. Honestly, this worked out really well. This worked out perfect. Thanks, oh yeah. That all said it, and I'll do two picks on the turnaround. Honestly, this worked out really well.

Starting point is 00:42:45 This worked out perfect. Thanks, Ranch. You're welcome. Okay, how many do we get to draft? That's a good question, what's a good number? We typically do five. Yeah, let's do five. All right.

Starting point is 00:42:56 So, Justin, before we start, I just gotta tell you, the listeners, you're gonna be mad, because there's no way we're gonna name everybody's games. Because there's five games apiece 15 games total out of do we say? 10,000 on the switch of a vast library And I'll just say I made a short list of games that I would personally consider for this It's 23 games long Wow, okay We could like my personal entire list is not even gonna be drafted right?

Starting point is 00:43:23 So there's a there's a very good chance that your game of choice is not going to be among our starting fives. But we wanna know what your starting fives are either way. Yeah, we still let us know. We love the information. But Heather, floor's yours. Number one with a bullet, my first pick for the Switch draft is Disco Elysium.

Starting point is 00:43:42 Wow. This is the console that I played Disco Elysium on. I cannot imagine letting my boy fall into your hands, so I must choose him as the lead character of my Switch draft. Disco Elysium, Disco Elysium, Disco Elysium. That's my first pick. Matt, you're up. Fantastic game.

Starting point is 00:44:07 One of my favorite games of all time. Not a game I played the Switch port of. I played it on PC, but that's great to hear that it's a really good way to experience it. It's how I have the collector's edition of the Switch version, which came in that truck-sized box. And I'm going to lovingly open it once in a while, look at all of the items, touch the items, I'm happy that they exist and close up the box and then put it in a

Starting point is 00:44:37 place where there is no sunlight. Yeah it's it is always fun touching items is a bit underrated isn't it? Yeah? It's really nice Okay, my number one pick. I feel like I have some other ones that I'm worried about getting taken Mm-hmm, but I feel like this one could be on any of our any of our lists I got a slide in here, and I got to get it mm-hmm Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Wow Wow Because this is a game that anybody could anybody can play this you put the controller in Someone's hand who doesn't really know games

Starting point is 00:45:16 Within minutes there they got it, and it's a fun to play with people. It's fun to play online It's fun to play with friends on the couch It's it's great so Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is my first pick. It's fun to play with people, it's fun to play online, it's fun to play with friends on the couch. It's great. So Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is my first pick. It's a great pick. Yeah, an excellent pick. And an endlessly playable game. And a signature game for the Switch.

Starting point is 00:45:34 Here I am, sitting in the three spot, and I'm in hog heaven, because I got two big boys I can take for myself. Oh fuck, you got two picks! First up, Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. Holy shit. Now look, I know a lot of people are like, hey, Tears of the Kingdom is just a strictly better version of it, and I get what you're saying, but I think that this is like one

Starting point is 00:45:57 of the games, it's a launch game, it's one of the games that define the platform, it's a game I put a ton of hours into, and unlike Tears of the Kingdom, which I bounced off of eventually, I actually finished the shit out of this game and I loved every second of it. Fantastic game. One of the, an all time game for me and an all time game for gaming. So someone's got to claim it and I'm glad it could be me. The other one, I'm taking a little bit more tactically like the two of you just because

Starting point is 00:46:24 I think I could see Appodaka claiming this one for himself. Like Heather, this is a game that I played primarily on the Switch that I finished, that I got the true ending of on the Switch, and it is an indie game. It is a game that is multi-platform, but I think the Switch version is a wonderful way

Starting point is 00:46:44 to experience one of my favorite games ever, the best roguelike ever made, Hades. That's fine. I'll allow it. As long as it got picked, you know, it's a great, that's a great one. Got picked all right, got picked by me. Got picked by Nick. Hell yeah.

Starting point is 00:47:00 Matt, back to you. Back to me. Okay. You know, this is a, I feel like based on what I know so far This next pick is safe for me to do I could I could save this to the end I think Wow because I'm the only person in the room that played it or that finished it so I think Out of unless you guys were to take it out of spite. I could leave it to the end I think, unless you guys were to take it out of spite, I could leave it to the end.

Starting point is 00:47:25 However, I'm going to pick it now because I am scared. So I am going to claim the Legend of Zelda, Tears of the Kingdom. There it is, the other Zelda's off the board. Excellent. Nick said why. It's just great. It's really, really good.

Starting point is 00:47:41 And I get why, there was a lot going on when it came out. It's easy to bounce off of. big games are easy to bounce off of yes Because there's just the you know there's too much to do yeah And I totally get it the Baldur's Gate 3 kind of impossible to pull yourself away from I know guys addicted to it whole thing We're not talking about it Doing the dark urge over here his His dark urge is to keep playing the damn thing. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh, which I haven't yet. I have yet to beat. But if I'm on an island and I only got one console and the consoles of switch and I have I only have five games on it,

Starting point is 00:48:34 then I want one of those games to be persona five Royale. So incredible game, incredible game, fantastic version of the game in part because it's, you know, it's not a taxing visual game. Like it's not asking, it's not trying to be God of War or The Last of Us Part 2 or, I don't know, what's a visually compelling, I don't even know games. How did I even get on this fucking podcast? You're doing great. You're doing a good job pretending that you know. It has a, Persona 5 has a dazzling aesthetic, but it's not trying to represent reality

Starting point is 00:49:13 in the way that some of those other games are, or approximate some version of reality in a way that's a little bit more technically intensive. Yeah, I think I could have said Cyberpunk 2077, and that would have been a good pick for Demonstrating what persona 5 is not visual sure But I didn't do it. It's also like it looked good when it came out, huh? It like that I guess the graphics were never an issue really with yeah the graphics great

Starting point is 00:49:40 It's like everything else about it was not It was a little it was a little janky on release in all in all aspects Maybe your like hog was like clipping through your clothes. Yeah, I would call that a graphical issue. What am I? Yeah, okay? Okay, okay, so now I try to tell HR. It's just a graphics issue The thing is HR is not even calling you in you're going in But the thing is, HR's not even calling you in, you're going in. I'm gonna pick my third game based on the sound of his feet in the sand.

Starting point is 00:50:11 Super Mario Odyssey is my third game. There was no way it was gonna last when it got back to me, but I was hoping, hoping against hope. Because I love the sound of his feet going ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch- And it makes me smile, and that is emblematic of everything about that game, where every decision is an attempt to make you smile, either in frustration or joy. Super Mario Odyssey.

Starting point is 00:50:55 So Disco Elysium, Persona 5 Royale, Super Mario Odyssey, those are my first three picks in the snake style Switch draft. Okay, so it's back to me, picks in the snake style switch draft. OK, so it's back to me. And there's just so many. The thing about this exercise, there's still there's so many. There's so many great games for the switch. We're really blessed with this thing, aren't we, folks?

Starting point is 00:51:17 I have to pick this one. And because I've said it, I've said it before. If you ask me on the right day, I might say this is my favorite game. I think I know where you're going with this, but please continue. But the best part of it being on the Switch is that it comes with a second game also.

Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. Super Mario 3D World and Bowser's Fury. Wow, great pick. That was a, it was definitely definitely, you both took picks here that I was weighing for my next couple of picks, so. It's just, it's a game that I just love it. I've said, I've talked about it enough. It's just great.

Starting point is 00:51:57 It's my favorite Mario. I could have picked, there's other Marios I could have picked for the Switch, but I picked that one. I haven't finished the new one. I know you did. I did. And you know what? It's my next pick, Super Mario Brothers Wonder.

Starting point is 00:52:09 Holy shit. He picked it. It's really good. It is really good. I just haven't finished it. Yeah. I mean, I will honestly say Super Mario Brothers Wonder is my third Mario I would have picked in those of those three, but I felt like I had to get a Mario game

Starting point is 00:52:25 this being a Nintendo platform. And it's also still a fucking amazing game. And it's just a terrific 2D, I guess you could call it a 2 and 1 half D platformer. But it's just such an incredible game with such a tremendous sense of joy and continuous graphical invention and audio invention.

Starting point is 00:52:49 Just the way it uses scoring and sound design throughout its levels. It's a terrific, terrific experience and it goes on my roster along with a game, again, that's an indie game that I played through primarily on Switch and that I have a poster of in my office at home. Tremendous game, one of my favorites, Celeste. Wow. Ooh. No, I had to do Celeste.

Starting point is 00:53:17 I knew you had to do it to him, yeah. Here's how well I knew. Yeah. As you were starting to say it, I wrote it down. Wow. I knew it. I know that Nick loves Celeste. I do love Celeste. It's a game that I've purchased a lot.

Starting point is 00:53:31 I have it on multiple platforms. I just haven't started it. Hey, you know, I'm the port king. I'm the port authority. I've definitely bought Celeste on more than one platform. And I'm happy to, it's one of those things where I'm happy to throw a developer Yeah. who made a game that I really really like a little bit extra cash as appreciation. It's

Starting point is 00:53:50 Wonderful game. I'll start it someday a tremendous story a lot of heart just a great You know, they're just great difficult but not quite rage game Platformer just just just an absolute joy to play through and a really satisfying end game okay Matt it's back to you back to me I'm sitting pretty I could stop like I have enough that I think I'm good honestly but I want a deluxe Legend of Zelda tears of the Kingdom Super Mario 3d world plus Bowser's fury yeah I get you got a plenty of gaming there. You know, but this next one. This is a game that I played all the way to the last boss and never finished.

Starting point is 00:54:31 Oh, man. And I let too much time pass. So every time I tried to go back in there. Mm hmm. My save is at the last. It's like the only thing there is the boss, and I can't go back and like relearn how to play. So I have to like, I intend to start it over again at some point so I can actually beat the boss. But my pick for my fourth slot, Metroid Dread. Wow! Metroid Dread is one of the most incredible games I've ever played.

Starting point is 00:55:05 It is exactly what you want in a modern Metroid game, a modern side scrolling Metroid game rather. Obviously people want more Metroid Prime, but it just rocks. It has a true sense in the way that Super Mario Wonder has wonder. Yeah. Metroid Dread has actual dread. Sometimes you're playing this and you're like, Jesus Christ, this is crazy. It's really, really great. I love it.

Starting point is 00:55:35 It's such a sleek looking game too. And I also, having played through some of the Metroid games in the last couple years, I think some of the lore in Metroid is like some of my favorite video game lore. It's just good stuff. I love it. I love Samus. I love that she always gets out on these planets with all these fucking big freaks.

Starting point is 00:55:58 It rules. That's what she's up to. I will say that a bunch of games have been listed so far. All the games with campaigns that have been listed are games I finished. Metroid Dread, I have not played yet. I never got around to playing it. And I know I would love it.

Starting point is 00:56:14 You know that is, you get that game, it's just like, oh yeah, I just never carved out time for it, but I know this is very much my shit. That it's in your top five is yet another data point. And there are other games I could have picked that are like that, that have, you know, like, I mean, I won't name them just in case, but, but they're like, but this one is like the best one

Starting point is 00:56:33 of those to me. So I, Metroid Dread is my fourth pick. Wow. Heather, back to you. Two more picks to round out your roster of five. Okay. Okay. I'm going to go with two games that there's no roster of five. Okay, okay. I'm gonna go with two games that there's no danger of you guys choosing.

Starting point is 00:56:48 Wow. Pick number four. One of my favorite games for the Wii, which had a better re-release on the Switch. No more heroes. Wow. Wow. I love the tone and the style of the game and I love its sensibility.

Starting point is 00:57:12 I love how firmly anchored in the late mid 2000s, the game is both in what it's capable of doing on the game itself and also what it's capable of doing on the game itself and also what it evokes from me. So, No More Heroes is my game for, again, no threat of you guys picking it. And then game five is a game that I own and don't talk about much, but own for the Switch.

Starting point is 00:57:45 And that's Ikaruga, which is a shooter, fucking shooter. Like a plane, you're a plane and you're flying and it's a shooter. Yeah, shmoop. Except unlike most shooting games, you can change your polarity of your ship. So let's say there's like, there's one color bullet and another color bullet.

Starting point is 00:58:10 And if you change the polarity of your ship, you can allow certain bullets to pass through you and other bullets not to. So it adds an entirely new dimension to just a plain shmup shooter game. Ikaruga is my final pick. Yeah, Ikaruga is a great game. I mean, that was on Dreamcast. I think they re-released it on GameCube.

Starting point is 00:58:30 Does that sound right? I think so. Yeah, I was not aware of the Switch port. Or maybe, you know what? I bet you told us about the Switch port before and then I just forgot about it. But that's a great game. Great pick.

Starting point is 00:58:43 The Switch version allows you to play the game in vertical mode. So you can take your Switch and you can put it vertically. And that is sort of the way that it is designed to be played like an old arcade cabinet. So, I mean, come on. Yeah, that's cool as hell. It's fucking great.

Starting point is 00:59:08 Yeah. I had a, I guess in practice, what you would do is that you would turn that on end and then you play it with a controller, right? That's how you'd make that work. Yeah, cause I had a, I had an import Dreamcast shooter back in the day. What the hell was it called?

Starting point is 00:59:23 Gunbird 2? That sounds right. And it was a Gunbird 2, that sounds right. And was a Capcom game, but you could, it did have that mode, but it involved actually taking your CRT, and I had this like shitty little 13 inch CRT, and I would like turn it on end just to play it in vertical mode. And it was so cumbersome that like,

Starting point is 00:59:42 I only did it a couple of times, but it was really amazing that it was included There you go. I hadn't even considered that that it's like possible. Of course. Yeah possible. Yeah, that's that's an I really love that Yeah, it's a lot of those, you know those old arcade cabinets you go in there and it's got it's got the tall screen form factor It's as crude as they just had a CRT monitor on end on its side. I Wonder what else I just don't know monitor on end, on its side. I wonder what else I just don't know. Probably just that.

Starting point is 01:00:06 What kind of other obvious stuff that I just don't know? Now, I have one more pick. You have one pick left. And I have something down. I wrote something down here. But I'm starting to second guess the pick. And I think I might change it. Wow. but it feels sacrilegious to do so You know, he's talking about it later

Starting point is 01:00:30 I'm trying to but I think right now what I'm sort of wrestling with is I could pick This game and have that and be happy with it. Yeah, or with my final choice I could have like a bang for my buck choice. Mmm, interesting. And so I'm sorry, Pokemon Legends Arceus, you're not on my list. Wow. A Pokemon game not on my Switch draft, can we believe this? I mean, that's nuts.

Starting point is 01:00:54 I can believe it. That's crazy. I can't believe it. You can believe it. I can believe it. I mean, just given how Pokemon games have been recently. But Legends Arceus is one of my favorite ones. People do like Arceus, I know you liked Arceus a lot. But it's not on the board. Wow.

Starting point is 01:01:07 No longer in my list. But instead, I'm going to choose the Final Fantasy Pixel Remastered Collection. Wow! Wow! And yeah, I bet you're wondering, how am I doing that? Guess what? It's actually six games for the price of one. It counts. It counts. They're all in the cart. It does count. It does count. Am I doing that guess what it's actually six games for the price of one it counts it counts

Starting point is 01:01:26 They're all in the cart. It does count. It does they're all in the cart and That's pretty exciting to me, so I I'm going with the Final Fantasy pixel remaster I've played through three and some of four skipped one and two because I played them a lot But I've been to get back in there, especially for five and six. And I'll be, I think I'll be doing that soon. But those are those are my picks. Look, the pixel remaster Final Fantasy. It falls to me to end my roster, finalize my roster and end this draft of my top 10

Starting point is 01:02:01 two games remain Metroid Prime remastered and Into the Breach. Everything else has been drafted by myself or someone else. Some other games on my short list that I'm strongly considering. Sonic Mania Plus, of course. Fantastic game. Of course, this is the game I'd not put as many, I do not think of as much as a Switch game,

Starting point is 01:02:24 but Cuphead plus the DLC, fantastic. And again, an all time game for me. Dragon Quest XI, the Switch port, Dragon Quest XI S is great, Undertale. Wow, Undertale. But I got four video game ass video games on here. I got Breath of the Wild, I got Hades, I got Super Mario Brothers Wonder, I got Celeste.

Starting point is 01:02:48 I need to fucking chill the fuck out. I need to spend some time with Tom Nook in the game, Animal Crossing New Horizons. I cannot believe it's still available at this point in the draft, and you know what? It's one of the defining games of the Nintendo Switch, and it goes on my roster. It was on my short list.

Starting point is 01:03:04 It's on there. Yeah. But I just couldn't pick it. Cause you could play that forever. You could play that forever. You could have that be the one game you had. Yeah, and I think just looking at the way my roster is constructed, you know,

Starting point is 01:03:19 I got some bangers in there, but I think just something to break it up would be a nice sort of salve. Wow, that's a huge picnic. Congratulations. Congratulations to everyone, because everyone wins here. I think that, because I looked at the Animal Crossing

Starting point is 01:03:36 and I was like, there's been no greater friend to me as a game during a time of distress than that game when we were all in lockdown. And it also made people who don't game, game. It's true. Yeah, the games that have helped me in times of distress, Animal Crossing during the pandemic and Crash Team Racing on 9-11

Starting point is 01:03:58 when I had to go home from school. Wow. That is intense. Yeah. It's like, I don't know what's going on, but I can guess I could play some Crash Team Racing. You were like, wow, that's a pretty terrible plane crash, but I've got a different crash in mind. And your mom was like, oh my god, Matt, no. Mom, no, you can't use the TV. Heather's roster, Disco Elysium, Persona 5 Royal, Super Mario Odyssey, No More Heroes,

Starting point is 01:04:31 Ikaruga, Matt had Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, Super Mario 3D World plus Bowser's Fury, Metroid Dread, and the Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Collection. And me, I had Legend of Zelda Breath of the wild Hades Super Mario Brothers wonder Celeste and Animal Crossing New Horizons. Let us know your five. It's tough to get it down to five It's tough to get so many options. I do think okie dokie literature club plus I thought about throwing out one then that one in there Pokemon. Let's go Pikachu. Yeah, a lot of great games We're just naming games now, but these are good games

Starting point is 01:05:03 I wouldn't have picked that one, but there's so many great ones, and I do think it should be said, we picked the best 15. We picked the best 15. Can I also just shout out the actual MVP of the Nintendo Switch? Big micro SD card. You gotta have a big micro SD card. Yes, absolutely.

Starting point is 01:05:20 This console is unusable with the built-in storage. You gotta get that card first thing. Yeah, and there's days where sometimes, I have a big one in there. Yeah about 256. I got a 256 er I thought about bumping up to five I thought about apparently a sports up to two terabytes which to me is insane you how you what you're gonna Have every game in the switch store on the damn thing Would be terabytes would fill up would fill up pretty faster than you think I bet yeah I'm sure well on like the PS5 for sure

Starting point is 01:05:46 Yeah, put four games on there, and it's done, but one Call of Duty Game size hey that was the Nintendo sitch draft. It's time to take a trip down memory card lane with our own Heather Anne Campbell She's got a game for a retro collection in the segment regrettably called Heather's Hole in the segment regrettably called Heather's Hole. Heather's Hole. Heather's Hole. Oh no. Heather's Hole. Oh God.

Starting point is 01:06:17 Guys, I've shown you. We haven't been here in a while. Yeah, we haven't been here in a while. It's been a long time. I have a, you know, for new listeners, I have a retro game collection that is filled with odds and ends. I've talked about a lot of stuff in this segment,

Starting point is 01:06:35 but we haven't visited, like for example, I have, I don't know, 30 still in box Super NES games. Beautiful, beautiful. Wow. I think I once talked about an N64 watch that was handed out to managers of electronics boutiques on launch day in the 1990s. I don't know that I've talked about this.

Starting point is 01:07:00 And I think that this is important because it will lead to a larger topic. I'm holding in my hands a copy of Final Fantasy Tactics. Wow. For the PS1. That's right. It is factory sealed. Wow.

Starting point is 01:07:14 So like the original plastic is still on this copy of Final Fantasy Tactics. The price range for this game on eBay goes from a respectable $70 all the way up to $2,000 for a factory sealed greatest hits version of Final Fantasy Tactics, not even the original. So this is like people who got in on the second run of Final Fantasy Tactics.

Starting point is 01:07:45 Yeah, I hate that. Why did they have to put that ugly, like green greatest hits thing over like already like gorgeous box art? I think to differentiate it because it was also sold at a lower price. Yeah, 100%. But I just like kind of wish like I wish that was just like a sticker on the plastic as opposed to being a part of the jewel case but you can also find on eBay a water graded

Starting point is 01:08:10 8.0 version of Final Fantasy tactics greatest hits sealed for 699 dollars Wow and Last year, I believe it was last year, no, two years ago, the video game grading firm WADA had been, uh, was sued by the, um, central district of California. Uh, and it was, um, sued for manipulating the retro gaming market in a class action lawsuit. Uh, WADA, according to the lawsuit, was engaging in affirmative acts to manipulate

Starting point is 01:08:47 the retro video game market, engaging in unfair business practices, engaging in false advertising, making false statements about the turnaround times for grading services, and failing to disclose material delays to customers. So not only is this company grading the games and then putting them out for heritage auctions, which then funnels the money directly back in a circle between the two companies in order to inflate the price of games. It is also putting certain retro games.

Starting point is 01:09:22 I think the actions by WADA at the beginning of pandemic was what suddenly and artificially inflated the prices of retro games across the board. Right. And has blockaded and barricaded those games from purchase, enjoyment and casual collectability. There is no fucking reason why a copy of Super Mario Brothers should be whatever it was, $30,000 or $300,000 or like. Right, the insane one was like a, wasn't it like a sealed Mario 64. So not even that old of a game that was like sold for hundreds of thousands, right?

Starting point is 01:10:02 Was that, that was, that seemed like kind of the big bubble indicator. I can't remember exactly what it was. Yeah, it was a yeah, it was a sealed copy of Super Mario 64, which ended up selling for one point five million dollars. Insane. And I don't know, when I when I look at my sealed copy, you took the seal off, just kidding. Well, you want to know what, like, honestly, I look at it and I think about taking the seal off of it because I feel like I'm maybe spiritually opposed to the idea that these

Starting point is 01:10:40 games shouldn't be available to people. And it makes me a little weirdly emotional. Yeah. And if this was a video podcast and there would be visual proof of me doing it, I think I would just take the fucking label off. So I'll save that for a time that we're doing on Twitch. Wow.

Starting point is 01:10:58 It's, I don't know, it's, there's something rancid about it. And that's why I took all of my Amiibo out of their boxes. And I put them in this nice little display case. And I love my little display case of Amiibo. And in fact, you know what? I'll grab that and show that to you. Are they just stepping away? I've seen this Amiibo case IRL.

Starting point is 01:11:18 It's really nice. Yeah. Like I got this like nice display case from- It's a lovely case. The gang's all there from the muji store for these For these items that unlock like extra fish Legend of Zelda

Starting point is 01:11:38 Tend to be relatively useless in gameplay terms. They're nice little figures. Yeah, they're adorable. They're adorable in gameplay terms, but they're nice little figures. Yeah. They're adorable. They're adorable. And they're a really good size and a really good detail level. I love the amiibo. No complaints about amiibo.

Starting point is 01:11:51 But I don't know, there are things in, there are, I think part of why I haven't done this segment in a while is because it's starting to make me uncomfortable. Because like the things that we, when we first started doing this segment, would talk about, and it was kind of like, check this out guys,

Starting point is 01:12:07 I've got Chrono Trigger with the maps. And it was like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. All of that happened pre-pandemic. And now when I pull out those games, I'm like kind of talking about like a disgusting amount of money that it represents. And also that it is no longer about the treasures that I have, but rather about their sort of like brag ability. I don't

Starting point is 01:12:37 know, it makes me, it bums me out that so much has changed in just the last four years of doing this podcast. So that, yeah, unless it's like something extremely weird that I have, like the slime controller that was shaped like a slime, like I love that guy. By the way, did speaking, you know, in the recent aftermath of Toriyama's passing, I saw someone make the argument that's just like the best character design in gaming, the Dragon Quest slime. Oh yeah. And there is something about it, you look at it, it's just like the New Mexico state

Starting point is 01:13:17 flag. It's just so simple, but it just pops immediately, catches your eye, and everyone knows what it symbolizes. It's just, it's such an incredible bit of design. That's a great controller. Like a really cool, like, I don't know how it is to play with, but it's like cool that it exists. Yeah, it's cool that it exists.

Starting point is 01:13:37 Kind of like the Resident Evil chainsaw controller. Yes. Like, cool that it exists. Yeah. But yeah, that it exists. Yeah. But yeah, that that's been my feeling about about this this whole area of gaming. And I'm not I I hope that my tone comes off melancholy and not like complaining from a place of privilege. I am extremely privileged to have held on to all of these things

Starting point is 01:14:02 my entire fucking life. Like that is awesome. And I'm grateful that, you know, baby Heather gave this gift to adult Heather. And the truth is that this, I remember getting this was, I was doing a games journalism at a square Enix. And they were just like, Hey, do you want to like come into the back room and grab, like we have so much stuff,

Starting point is 01:14:27 do you want anything? And I was like, oh yeah, let me see what you have. And I think I grabbed like three games and this was one of them. So this didn't even cost me any money. Wow. I love that it still says Squaresoft on it. I don't know, there's nothing we can do about it.

Starting point is 01:14:40 So it just makes me a little sad, that's all. It's unfortunate that like bad actors sort of like made this hobby like like all things for capitalist gain like like Logan Paul did the same thing with Pokemon cards like he was got he got into opening Pokemon cards on stream and then those sure made that like chasing of a first edition Charizard

Starting point is 01:15:07 He single-handedly like drove the market up for Pokemon cards and then everyone was going and buying them and they're hard to find It was a whole crazy thing, but like this happened. This doesn't happen with like books or anything like that I bet it does though. I bet if you dig deep into any hobby They all had their thing their their I bet if you dig deep into any hobby, they've all had their thing, their situations where speculators have gotten involved and are treating this hobby now as an investment. And then that leads to people like trying to pile on for the gold rush. So yeah, Heather, I think you sound appropriately melancholy and I think your tone and your words are exactly conveying

Starting point is 01:15:45 what you're trying to do. Which is, yeah, it sucks that this comes from a, it sucks that you are someone who just is, has purely has a passion for this thing. But then you feel associated it seems like with, you know, people who are into just for the money. Yeah. There was a funny mid-period where I was like, you guys, this copy of Pokemon I have is now worth $300. Because it was kind of, I don't know, amusing. But the longer I've sat in that sort of chilly aftermath,

Starting point is 01:16:22 the more blue it's made me. Because yeah, oh, it's weird that people, because like the people who do wanna play a Game Boy game today, those like legitimately, like go into a store and be like, hey, I kinda wanna play a Game Boy game. Yeah. Like those people don't have access to, or maybe they do, but like, generally speaking, an enthusiast for like,

Starting point is 01:16:51 old technology isn't necessarily going to have like, 500 bucks to drop on Pokemon Yellow. Right. Sure, yeah. And I know that emulation has bridged the gap between these two things, and you can play anything you want. But there are people like me who really enjoy playing it on the original platform

Starting point is 01:17:11 without that additional emulation lag, where it feels crispy. And I don't know, it just bummed me out a little bit. That's all. I think that's why this segment hasn't been around for a bit. Well, we don't have to do it again. I mean, we can. But maybe I'm going to try and find stuff

Starting point is 01:17:33 that's a little weirder to chat about here in Heather's home. It does make you wish we had a public sector that Kieran Hatters. Oh. It does make you wish we had like a public sector, you know, that actually cared about the arts and more, you know, larger than that, that video gaming was considered an art because this is the sort of thing, it was just like, libraries should just have, we should have big, huge libraries that have a bunch of shit,

Starting point is 01:18:04 that a bunch of services that are available. One things they have is we should have big huge libraries that have a bunch of shit, that a bunch of services that are available. One things they have is that they have retro consoles where you can play old games and that's just a public service because these are works of art that should be available to people and, and, and, you know, in some form. The other thing I was going to say is that your story about getting a free copy of Final Fantasy Tactics from Square Enix made me just, it just reminded me of a thing I was going to say is that your story about getting a free copy of Final Fantasy Tactics from Square Enix made me just,

Starting point is 01:18:28 it just reminded me of a thing I hadn't thought about in a long time. So as I've said in the podcast, I used to work at Activision. I worked in QA, and I worked in customer support. And two of my bosses would just hand me and the other workers there just like free Activision games all the time. And so like, you know, it was just like a routine thing of this like, hey, this, what,

Starting point is 01:18:50 Tony Hawk's Underground 2 is out or whatever. Like you want it? I was like, yeah, if I can take it. And I got like a bunch of free games. Some of them I even had no interest in playing, but they were free. And then so I would in turn like be like, to pay someone back for a favor, I'd be like,

Starting point is 01:19:04 hey, you want a free copy of a game there because holy shit You know it's like I just handed them a $50 bill or whatever yeah, but it's something I got for free for work Anyway, I had this huge stockpile of free games of the era That I got from this job and then at a certain point I shifted back to QA and then someone I used to work with found me and was like, hey, do you hear our, the two guys, they got, our bosses got fired.

Starting point is 01:19:33 I was like, holy shit, what happened? He's like, yeah, they were stealing a bunch of games. Oh my God. I didn't. I knew whatever, cause this is the thing, this is what you can almost guarantee from a wiger story Yeah, that the ending is going to leave you speechless Just brazenly just handing them out to be

Starting point is 01:20:00 So insane Like a perk of working in there. It feels like it should be one Yeah, absolutely should be but it's so that is so funny. That's like when like friends of mine that have worked at Disneyland like have signed people in like you know signed me in and we like for free or whatever and you like You want to pay them back and they're like you cannot you like you can't do it It's like against the rules and then like but like I'll buy their lunch or whatever and it's like it's kind of You should have said no to that too. Yeah for sure if it's if it's a no for the letter of the law Yeah, but I wish I wish I got anything for free be sick as hell Yeah, if you have free stuff that you want to give us send us free stuff. Yeah, that's free stuff

Starting point is 01:20:43 Yeah, we love we love free stuff. We sure to give us, send us free stuff. Yeah, send us free stuff. Yeah, we love free stuff. We sure do. Thank you for that trip into Heather's Hole. That was a really thoughtful, just sort of a bit of discussion from you. Yeah, I loved it. And you know, there's always interesting stuff in there, whether it be items or information. Wow. There you go. That's this

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