Get Played - Driving Games with Marika Brownlee & Casey Donahue

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

Matt and Nick are joined by the hosts of The Pit Wall, Marika Brownlee and Casey Donahue, to discuss driving games! They talk about what makes driving good in games, racing rigs and more.Follow us on social media @getplayedpod.Music by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.com.Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com.Check out our Anime watchalong podcast Get Anime'd and our complete Get Played, How Did This Get Played? and Premium DLC back catalogue only on patreon.com/getplayed.Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at [e-mail] Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Nick. Hi. Yeah. What's up, buddy? Hey, sorry to call in. I'm going to have to be remote for the record today. I was going to come into the studio. Oh, no, no problem.

But I was driving over there and I got, I'm okay, but I got in an accident. Oh God. Oh my God. You're okay though? You're okay? Yeah, I'm okay. I'm okay. Just, you know, it's just, people are crazy out there. I know.

It's really, the more and more I get behind the wheel, I'm just like, everybody's so crazy. Yeah. I was like, what's going on here? I'm just trying to commute. I'm just trying to get to my job, you know, and I'm just driving. I'm minding my business. I'm not doing anything crazy. No.

And just get nailed with a red shell. No, I've been there, buddy. That freaking lunatic hits me with a red shell out of nowhere. It's so crazy that it happened to you because like truly just like a week ago, I was driving and I was doing great. You know, I was getting all I was hitting all my turns i was i was you're a great driver thank you this is the thing people don't know matt's a really good driver he's really fast and i've driven you in the car before yeah like not very far just a little just you know drop you off here or there

um right then the double dash if you will yeah exactly you hop on the back that's right uh i was driving around grabbing my coins and all that some lunatic yeah i gotta grab some yeah i gotta go a little faster not like not much faster but just a little bit um yeah i try to have 10 at all times but some lunatic hits me with a lightning bolt and i'm on the road and i shrink yeah and it's more dangerous for me out on the road when i'm shrunk right you're tiny you could get someone could just flatten yeah like that i'm trying to jump around try to speed up the process to get bigger again it's not working so i'm just kind of looking like a stupid little shrunk asshole on the road people are crazy out there people are crazy i was you know i was like okay

i'm i see an item box up okay great let me just drive through this thing. Yeah. Because, you know, I could definitely use a power up. Why not? Maybe I get myself a green shell shield just to like, you know, kind of mitigate some of the damage I'm getting from these other lunatics are out there on the road. I drive in to this item box totals my car. This is a few years back. Totals my car. It's a fake item.

No, it's one of those decoy item box. Some lunatic dropped on the road uh just to play a prank on some other driver people it's it's wild people are crazy out there it's just so crazy on the road crazy and you know what this is actually reminding me i'm actually in a class action lawsuit over something very similar i was on the road yeah right some uh in the reason it's a class action lawsuit is because the person driving the car that did this to me was representative of a business and so i i was driving behind this car this truck unloads a bunch of fucking slick oil everywhere from a squid it gets all over my car

i drive off the road on your windshield probably can't even see and you know what you know who has to dig me out of a fucking ditch lakitu my mortal enemy gets on his fucking he gets his little hook that he usually has his camera dangling from gets my car out of this ditch and i had to say thanks to my enemy can i just say i'm going to say something that's maybe controversial and like maybe we maybe we edit this out of the pod i I've come around on Lakitu. You, okay. I think I'm like,

I think Lakitu is like a force for good. I'm, I'm like, I'm voting for Lakitu. Okay. He's a big proponent of like a video surveillance police state, but sure. That's fine.

Yeah. But he's there with that fishing line to pull you out. If you go off the road. He did. He did save my ass. And, um, I did say,

you know, one of those, you know, when you get in those situations where you kind did save my ass and um i did say you know one of the you know when you get in those situations where you kind of just say something and you're like oh why am i saying this i just this is like a 10 second interaction he pulled me out i said thanks i'm gonna vote for you and i was like why did i do that but but man i'm right there with you yeah no this is a thing we're gonna vote for him and he's gonna yeah we're gonna fix these hopefully he's gonna clean up these streets because everybody's so crazy out there well hey someone's gonna do it it's not gonna be sleepy joe or cranky kong for that matter we rum rum and as we discuss driving games and driving in games this week on Get Played. Wow, it's Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between.

It's time to get played. I'm Nick Weiger, along with Matt Apodaca. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Get Played, where we're going to begin this week's episode with a correction. This isn't what we normally do here, but we're going to correct the we don't we don't do that it's not something we typically do uh i've never been wrong before is the issue we've never said anything wrong we've never done anything wrong and we certainly have never said anything that needed to be corrected right um but last week on the show heather was here last week heather's not here this week. She'll be back soon.

Um, send her your all wishes. She appreciates them. Yeah, of course. Um, and so Heather did ask me to make this correction and, uh, I'll just go to, I wrote, I wrote, I don't know why I'm nervous. I didn't do anything bad. It's not bad. Um, but last week you're in deep shit. I'm in deep shit.

I feel, I do feel yourself out of this pit. I do feel like I committed a faux pas on some degree. Right. So like that's a little egg on my face. I ultimately I don't think it's bad because all parties involved are aware of what happened. Yes. But I just wanted to correct the record on the public record. So last week, Heather mentioned getting a care package of Fortnite goods and it was misattributed to um the battle buds because

i said that that's where it came from but i misunderstood her regular crew for people who don't normally listen to the podcast her regular crew of fortnight uh compatriots from the community who've all come together as part of the community of the this podcast fandom and so i misattributed to uh to the battle buds and said oh this is from the BattleBuds, gave it to Heather. Heather thanked them publicly on the show. That's not where it came from. But my confusion was the BattleBuds have done nice things like this in the past.

Of course. So I was sort of like, okay, how did I make the mistake? So I went back to the messages. And the initial message was from a Discord user, Demon Curry, who wrote, and this is what the message says. Hey, Matt, I wanted to get something for heather as a get well present i work with the fortnight group and we're coming up with a care package and would like to ship it to her do you know the best way we could be able to send this to heather so i organized that but i took the fortnight group the phrase the fortnight

group to mean the battle buds this is right this is on their behalf yes but in actuality it was the actual actual fortnight the actual company or you know the fortnight group the people behind fortnight sent this stuff to heather directly from fortnight so the gift was from fortnight and it was the gift was fortnight stuff and i i just wanted from on behalf of epic on behalf of someone who works with epic i i suppose that is the what it is yes i got it but you can see my confusion with the fortnight group i already know about there's an existing fortnight group and but this came from some other affiliation with fortnight and that's more official, you know, shirking blame here. OK, I, I admit I made I made a big mistake. Yes. And I do want to apologize.

Tall involved. And but also it's very nice that so many different people involved in Fortnite, whether they're playing the game or they're behind the scenes, care about our good friend Heather and Campbell. And we love to see that. Don't we here, Nick? We sure do. But, you know,'re not going to be talking about Fortnite today. No. Because Heather's not here. Yes. But we do have some great guests in her stead. I mean, we might talk about it.

I guess it could come up. It could come up. We don't know. We'll get into it. Our guest today, the host of the Pit Wall podcast, an F1 podcast for the casual fan, which is right here on HeadGum, Marika Brownlee and Casey Donahue. Marika, Casey, thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having us.

Thanks for having us. This is huge. What a treat. All right, let's start here. Do y'all play Fortnite? I've played it before. Yeah, same. And then never played since.

I think the last time I played was before it became like you could still build and shoot and that was pretty much all you could do and now my understanding is it's a whole ready player one situation or something it's essentially the metaverse I mean there's a bunch more that you could still build and shoot

but that's still fundamental to the game but yeah there's a lot more going on I also have not played in a couple years now or since last year. I don't know. I messed around a little bit with it, but I but I fell off of it after our kind of like designated, you know, Fortnite time. Rika, how about you? I played a little bit of it when I first got my Switch, I think.

And I think I I had a match where I got second. I was like, I'm done. Never again. That's good. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Go out on a W for sure. Yeah. Rochelle is in the chat. Our producer Rochelle is in the chat. Um, cause Nick requested that she not be on the, on the video screen. And, uh, wait a minute. The exact opposite of what happened. Make me issue a correction next week. Okay what actually was like i'm just gonna hang out turn her camera off i was like okay well you could you can stick around if you want but it won't obligate her yeah anyway i believe nick said scram but um rochelle in the chat wrote fortnite on switch

is psycho mode yes yeah there's My understanding is it's like, it's, Rochelle, are you saying that? And feel free to chime in on Mike if you like, no obligation. But do you like, is it because of the, the Switch just doesn't have the horsepower to run the game effectively? Because I've heard that about

some other multi-platform games on Switch. Yeah, it is so much harder to play on the Switch. I started playing on the Switch before getting a PC and I just cannot believe that I was able to get anything done. It looks and plays a lot jankier, right? It's so ugly on the Switch and also it's just so difficult. So the fact that you got second place very good is very impressive.

Yeah, I truly don't know how I did it. I think I really hacked the system because I can't build at all. I was like, I'm not going to try. Yeah, me neither. Rochelle, are you still playing as Eminem? No, I'm actually over Eminem now and I am playing as the Terminator. Wow, oh wow.

I know, I'm pickle. You should try playing as Lewis Hamilton, who's a Formula One driver. Is he in Fortnite? Yeah, I think he's in the game now. Wow. All right, let's talk about Formula One a little bit. F1 for short what sparked

your f1 interest how did you get into this this sport that's a great question for marika because marika kind of got me into it oh wow okay yeah and i got into it kind of in the opposite way of most people where i got into endurance racing first and was watching things like the WEC series which is like six hour four hour races uh that come on at 5 a.m and I got into it because Michael Fassbender was racing and I thought that was really funny right it's like his passion right yeah it really yeah it's cute um you should add a t somewhere in his name so he can be Michael Fastbender and win all the races. Matt, that's really good. That's really good.

Hey, thanks so much. I look forward to your correction next week. The, yeah, like Michael Fastbender and then the other guy is the non-George Michael from Wham! Got really into racing. Like that was like, that became his passion. I think he did Formula 3 racing or something like that. It's pretty good. Yeah.

Yeah. How many formulas are there? Formula one, formula three, two, formula two, formula. There's a formula.

Wow. They just keep going. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Okay. So you're watching, I'm sorry.

You're watching endurance racing yeah and then uh i think it was jake hurwitz uh told us about or told me about uh drive to survive which is the netflix series that kind of goes through formula one i was like a little reluctant to get into formula one i thought was too cool yeah but then i watched trying to survive i really liked it and i started watching the races and was like this is a great television show with my 20 rich friends that travel around the world and drive cars and gacy so you you like uh but you're you're you're someone who's into cars like you're something of an auto enthusiast already and then you you you get like kind of hooked into the f1 ecosystem via marika

is that what happens yeah pretty much it was uh it was it was pretty easy for me to get into because i was like you know like you said i was already into cars i like to drive a fast car myself uh i like to drive really fast i like to think I'm the best driver in Los Angeles. Just from the research I've done with everyone else I've been on the road with, I think I've been doing the best job. Okay. Yeah. That sounds good.

But yeah, like one day went go-karting with Marika and a few other HeadGum folks and was really into it. And then they all told me i should watch drive to survive uh the the f1 season had just started uh there were like four races in so i watched like my first race that weekend and i was like this is my new hobby this is my new interest i am on board formula one here we go uh okay so your podcast you start you launch the podcast the podcast is is geared towards the casual fan but like has your own fandom become less casual as you watch this like are you like really into it are you still kind of like a like i follow it but you know i'm not as hardcore as some other people um i i definitely feel less casual especially since

uh we talk about every single race into a microphone right uh and i don't necessarily want to sound uh like i don't know what i'm talking about although many listeners will will tell you that uh we often don't know what we're talking about that is we love to talk about it that doesn't happen on this podcast nobody tells me i do think there is like a certain level of technical expertise that we don't have and i especially don't have because i literally can't drive a car um but really yeah that's so interesting so like you don't have like you so you don't drive a car at all no no but you're like you know that's that's that's i, we got to get you behind the wheel. Well, you're a New Yorker.

You're in New York. You don't need the car. You're in the city. You don't have to drive. You're too busy folding pizza slices in half. Folding pizza slices in half, walking here, going on the crazy subway. Yeah. Marika has driven go-karts.

I've been on the go-kart track with her. Yeah, I've driven a go-kart. I'm not as good as casey there have been times when we've been on the track and he has lapped me i don't know what i do wrong but i can't go fast apparently i'm not taking the turns at the right point at the apex of the curve you gotta aim for the apex um but i'm always when i'm on the road i'm always aiming for the apex that's like i'm always just like i'm always aware of the apex and where it is and how to get there well i i mean this is this is the thing and we'll talk about racing

video games specifically in a bit but that's always the kind of thing of like that impresses me about people who can do something that seems, you know, it doesn't like, I can understand more intuitively how a marathon runner can be better at running than me. I understand like what's going on there, but like the, the,

the technical aspects of driving beyond just like hitting the accelerator, like when you break and, and you know, like, like you were saying, like how you handle the turns, um, and all the stuff that makes me, you know, not very good at racing video games. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm really impressed to see that in action. And yeah, that's, that's a, I, I, we'll get, we'll get into that.

related to f1 but like like is this your the sport you're into like are you are you sportos in general are there other sports you follow or is this like the one thing that that really has got its hooks into you i think for me this is like the one sport that i really followed i you know i like did some fantasy football at college for a while and like but in terms of like week to week watching a a game or a race i follow it pretty closely yeah i'm uh i'm actually a huge baseball fan that's like maybe my one sport that has been like the main sport that i've been into i've been like a casual football fan, casual basketball fan. Like I watch like the NBA on TNT, whatever that game is,

but I don't really watch outside of that. Yeah. Baseball, I will watch almost every game. Like I will watch the highlights of every single game every day during the season. Wow. That's wild. Who's your team?

And also like, do you have any baseball video games that you like? I've had a few teams, a group in Florida. So I was a Marlins fan, lived in New York, so I became a Mets fan. My dad's also from New York, and he's a diehard Mets fan. So the Mets are like the family team. I worked for the Red Sox for a bit, so I became a fan of them. And now I'm in Los Angeles, and the Dodgers are the best team in baseball, so it's easy to root for them.

Yeah, that's what I like to hear as a lifelong Angeleno. Exactly. And on the video game side, is MLB the show? Is there anything that you've enjoyed over the years? Baseball. Baseball. years um i have played the show uh on and off for about 15 years uh my uh my my favorite mode the thing about like sports games or particularly i guess like i could i could talk about the show a bit uh there there there's so many different modes you can play. And I feel like I don't play most modes of the game.

I love creating a guy and then playing that guy's entire career. So I will sometimes start a pitching career or I'll sometimes start a batting career. And I will play every... I'll play the whole season, every season until I break all of the records and then I go yep there it is Casey Donahue has a hundred home runs in a season until I break all of the rules they should let you do that do you have a do I do like because I we've talked about this and with the NBA 2k franchise and one reason I fell off of that is because the my career mode has so much shit that is not at all related to playing basketball. Does the MLB the show have that?

I. Honestly, I don't know what the last update was, because what the show was was really good at that I never really saw in other sports games was you could transfer your career from the old game to the new game so i could get like the new year i could transfer my character over all the stats are there the whole career is still there uh i want to say in like 21 you could not bring over your game from 20 and i had like six years worth of mlb the shows that i was trying to transfer i could not so i have not played since since 21 i haven't had the urge to like all right let's start a new career and just break all the same records again yeah exactly yeah the the nba 2k thing is just always like there'll be like a cut scene after a game and it'll be clearly like they grab the vo

in a locker room with like one take and it's just like the flattest read of like eric gordon being like man you were on fire out there tonight but you got to get me the rock or else there's going to be trouble on the bench i was like geez man i don't care about this at all like what are we doing here it kind of recorded hit single huh yeah yeah dr j is having a beats party you got to be there or be square there's there's nothing really like that in in the show uh and yeah i think i saw like it was either last year's 2k game or or the year before where like you could go skateboard around and i was like i don't i don't understand what's happening in this skateboarding is not basketball I don't think there's anyone who buys these games who likes those modes maybe I guess maybe small

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Yeah, I beat Final Fantasy VII. Wow, congrats, buddy. Thank you so much. And it did feel amazing. I did play with the modern conveniences turned on, you know, I was, um,

but some of those things like having your limit, like always full, don't help you as much as, uh, you think like, yes, like it, it does make it easier,

but you can still get one shot by like enemies that you're not leveled um according right if you're not leveled accordingly if you're like turning random encounters off which i understand why someone would do that but but yeah you're not doing the leveling that you would need to do to uh you know to progress uh so i but i had a i i thought i knew stuff about the game i knew some of the big stuff about the game but i didn't know like how how in depth it was about like climate change it's a pretty environment yeah it's a pretty environmentalist game and and definitely the the remake is like that too they're like eco-terrorists that you're like that you're playing and you're trying to save the world from uh these like this

like evil company and i was like this rocks this is this fucking awesome and uh i i just loved it i thought it was so great uh i loved all i loved all the characters um i didn't really know sephiroth sold deal i last week i said i was familiar with him but i it turns out that i didn't really know sephiroth's whole deal i last week i said i was familiar with him but i it turns out that i didn't really know that much about him and you know there's this uh like um mobile game coming out about sephiroth where the tagline was we still don't know that much about him and i thought that was funny initially and now i agree actually i don't know that much about him um so i'm looking forward to learning more i i did start playing through the remake and i had started the remake um when the remake

came out initially having never played the original and i fell off of it because i wasn't interested i had i didn't really connect with it but now i'm playing through it again or with fresh eyes rather with with context and i'm immediately more hooked and more interested because i'm like oh it's this i know this yeah yeah so this is uh i'm having a blast with that but a new game came out last week too that everyone's talking about right now uh prince of persia the lost crown that's right i'm playing that on my switch and nick i'm loving it dog i i i it fucking rocks it is so good it is um it's just that type of like i don't know it's a it's

a metroidvania so it's a different type of game for a prince the prince of persia series but everything about it's really really good i just got to a part where uh i have some new abilities i have some new weapons and that once you start getting those upgrades in any metroidvania you feel like a million bucks and you're like okay now i can go back over here and do this i can do this now i'm zipping around i'm having i'm having a blast i love it i love it i love it i love it now i was reading that one thing that's this one bit of it one innovation this game has is that it's pretty easy to track where you could because because a big thing like you know like in uh in like the ori games for instance like you get a new upgrade

and you're like okay now i can get through this kind of door or i now i have something that can grapple onto this sort of platform this sort of hook uh but then you're like wait where did i see that hook before like you know i mean like but this has some sort of it's something in the map screen or whatever that just like makes it really clear where you can what new areas you can explore with this new ability well there are there are two modes there's like a guided mode which has icons on your map that'll show you like oh you're supposed to be going this way or oh this door is open now you can go over there you have an ability to unlocks this area now or whatever but then there's also the explore mode that has that stuff turned off so

you do have to like either remember or in your map you can um i think they're called memory shards you can use a memory shard and it takes like a screenshot and adds it to your map to be like oh there's a chest up there that i can't get because i don't have double jump yet so i'll mark it on my map with a because you can leave markers on the map just like generic markers but you could literally take a screenshot and it shows you the thing that you're that you haven't gotten yet uh and that that's really everyone's talking about this feature yeah it is it should be in every game it is so good that sounds great it's such it's such an innovation um but it's it's a lot of fun and it's different it's a different type of prince of persia game in another way because you're not playing the prince of persia you're not him uh you're a you're known you're a you're a guy that's

uh his name is sargon and he's an immortal uh there's this group called the immortals in the game and um which my cat's scratching something he's being so crazy next to me he's just like scratching going nuts um uh but so you don't play you play a sargon who is in this group called the immortals and you're, you're the kid, the princess has been kidnapped and you're on the search for hunting the prince, but there's all this crazy stuff going on.

All this weird time stuff and all this like just crazy, you know, magic stuff. It's really good. I, I, I, I'm,

I'm really enjoying it and I'm putting, I'm putting hours into that and then hopping back in on, uh, the final fantasy seven remake and kind of just alternating my time between both. You're a mad, you're a mad man. I'm,

I'm, I applaud you for finishing final fantasy seven. Thank you. The OG that's, that's a, that's impressive. I, I,

I loved it. And I, I do, I, I feel final fantasy seven pilled. Like I, like I, I was like,

am I going to go see advent children in theaters? A movie no one likes. Can I ask, what was your final playtime? Oh, um, it was something around. I can check actually,

I think, cause it'll tell me at least rudimentary or, you know, uh, uh, an estimate in the switch menu. I do have my switch right here because I remember that taking me 60 hours on the PlayStation one. But also I spent a lot of time breeding Chocobos.

OK, I did it in 30 hours. It took me 30 hours. Sure. Which is not nothing. I didn't think it was. I thought I was going to get through it faster, honestly. And that's why I started before I jumped into the remake. But 30 hours is about is about right. If you skip. I didn't think he was. I thought I was going to get through it faster, honestly. And that's why I started it before I jumped into the remake. But 30 hours is about is about right.

If you skip. I didn't even meet Yuffie. Yeah, it's a it's a pretty substantial game. Did you meet Vincent? I don't think so. He's in the coffin, right? I don't actually don't remember where he comes from, but he's he's the other unlockable character. I didn't get any of the bonus characters.

I was going straight through. You were just mainlining this bad boy. Yeah, and I did it. I got it right in my veins. I loved it. Good for you. Marika, what are you playing? So at the moment, I'm not playing any games.

I'm kind of waiting when I know i'm gonna have a chunk of time to sit down and play spider-man 2 which i'm really excited about um did you play the the originals i assume i played yeah so i played the i actually played miles morales first when i got a ps5 and then went back and played the remastered Spider-Man. Hell yeah. It was great. Loved them. Like one of the few games I've actually finished because I'm a very impatient gamer, I think.

I'm not a person that will sit down and grind through stuff. If I can't beat something, I'll try three times and I'll be like, I'm done. I'm walking away. john lock style so i've not finished many games but those two i did loved them cried at them they're great stories yeah they're really good stories so i'm really excited for two um i have two stardew Valley games going at the moment that I've truly abandoned for a few years because I also have a really unhealthy way of playing that game and had to back away. I probably can relate to that. Describe it for me. So the first one I started on my computer and i got pretty far i hadn't finished it um but the mines just like killed me i can't i don't like doing the mining stuff

um and it got to the point where i was just like on my computer with like a wikia tab open of like i have to do this thing i have to like farm this on this day and like constantly tracking that so i stopped and then when i got the switch i started a new farm and then i was like very determined to marry the doctor as quickly as possible but also be friend be best friends with the shane who like breeds chickens or whatever so i like accomplished that but then it was the same thing where i was like sitting with my switch and then my computer and like just constantly looking stuff up and i was like this is a this is a job yeah well because you're trying to to min max your you know your

crop yield or whatever and like there that you can get you can get really really into it like just like how you position your sprinklers and which which livestock you're raising it's like you can and also like what days you go to the mines and everything yeah you get really super into it and i was like you know i was like i gotta make jam on this day i gotta constantly be making jam so i can sell the jam and it's gotta be like these crops because that's the most money i can make it's a whole thing um so eventually when i feel like i can return to it in a calmer manner i'll finish one of those games um and i also have an oculus and got really into beat saber during the pandemic oh wow and need to need to hop back into that and like i i modded it um so that i

could play custom games but then oh wow the it got kind of fucked up so i think i need to reset my oculus and start okay i see it's a lot of tech problems our friend uh mars melnick i know got super into beat saber and was something of a beat saber evangelist to me in the past and like is that is that part how of how you got your way in or did you find your own way in yeah it was definitely through mars uh she at like one point had brought it was like when she just started getting into beat sabers she brought her ps4 um vr setup to like the office and so we were playing that and i thought i would be really bad at it because i was really bad at like guitar hero um but i'm actually really good at it uh and then i like yeah i started she like told like told me which VR headset to get and stuff.

And so I started playing during the pandemic. I've only messed around with it a little bit because I get disoriented and sweaty. But like, is it like a workout for you? Yeah, totally. It's like, it takes a lot. And I, there's like different modes. I usually turn off the, the walls that they add um i know that mars really likes playing maps with walls it's like it just makes you like move around a lot and i'm just

like that's it's too much yeah i like to be still and just move my wrists really fast right i'm with you um casey how about you what are you you playing? Funny enough, I just finished playing Spider-Man 2. Wow! How about that? I loved it. It was so good. So much fun. I'm excited. I love the sandbox

games. I've played a lot of them. But this was the first time where I was like took a different strategy, I guess, playing it where, where, uh, usually I'll, I'll like make a beeline to the main story mission and just do all the main story stuff, get that out of the way. And then just like fuck around.

Uh, but this time I was like, I'm going to, as things pop up on the map, I'm going to do them and take care of them so then by the time i got to you know the later stages of the game i was like overpowered and like had all the suits already had every like gadget unlocked and was just like ready uh for a battle basically uh but that was uh i i thought like i i don't know if like you know the grand theft autos of the world uh delineate their missions uh the way that they do on spider man but playing that way i thought was like very satisfying it kind of like helped feed the story a bit as i was like doing other side missions and like helping neighborhood people out

uh kind of made me feel like i am i am the friendly neighborhood spider-man yes right right that was my big thing when it was new like like i played it like when it came out and i was like it really stimulates what it would feel like to have that push and pull to be you know between one of two people between being miles and spider-man and being peter parker and spider-man like that that's such a tough you know it's a tough it's the thing that they struggle with the most like having time for both to exist as both i loved i love that part of the game yeah it was awesome um yeah play that and then uh last week I finished the story mode for MK1. I don't know if you guys are Mortal Kombat guys.

I have not played the modern Mortal Kombat, but I know people are pretty positive about Mortal Kombat 1. They're really fun. And the stories are, the storyline is crazy. Right, because they try to make all the lore make sense, right? Yeah. That's one of the things they do. They just like, it's uh right because they try to like make all the lore make sense right yeah that's one of the things they do they just like it's all canon so we're just going to try to figure out how to make this work yeah and and the uh so like mk11 ended with uh uh i can't remember the name main characters and i won't say chronos was her name she was like a time person who can bring characters

from the past and now they're fighting the characters from the present and it's all just like a way to get like you can have sub-zero in his original costume or you can have him like in the story mode version um and so then mk1 the end of that game ended with them like resetting the timeline and mk1 is like all the characters are young again uh but now there's like because there's there's multiple timelines so now this was a way to get like every other version of every other character so it's it's like scorpion with sub-zero powers there's There's Kano with a Johnny Cage attitude. Got it. It's really, really fun.

And the story mode, I've been looking forward to for the past three Mortal Kombat games. And then the DLC also continues the story. So now I'm waiting for the DLC story to come out so I can keep playing the bonkers story. Do you have one? Is the way the story mode works, you have one character you pick to take your way through it?

Or are you like, does it branch off and you're playing different characters in different scenarios? You're playing different characters in different scenarios. Got it. It kind of works the way that the original movie works, where they're going around doing stuff, and then they run into a guy, and then you got to fight them. And then there's a one-liner when you beat the character, and you don't kill them. There's no fatalities in the story mode because they all get to come back and fight. It's very Lo looney tunes rules

the way it works um but yeah it's uh it's it's it's really fun there's some sometimes you like you're like two guys like you're two characters together and uh you get to choose which character you want to to fight uh you know like cyrax or who are the fuck uh you you run into in a laboratory um it's great a lot of fun just played that and that's what i'm playing i love it um well i'll talk a little bit about my balder's gate 3 replay i'm about 60 of the way through act two oh wow on hard on tactician on hard mode um because uh you're flying i'm depraved yeah uh this i i mean i love this game it's it's it's so good and i'm having so much fun on my second campaign you're gonna laugh at me i'm seeing stuff that i did not see the first time through and i'm re-experiencing stuff with the context of the

full story and understand get more like all of the stuff that is seated about ketherick thorne uh who is kind of the act two uh big heavy uh present throughout the story but there's so much of it so much earlier than i clocked because the game is just so dense and you don't understand that this is pointing towards something that's like a key story or going to be a clear a key plot pivot you maybe think like oh this is just flavor text or this is just something about some side mission that i'm going to be a key plot pivot. You maybe think like, oh, this is just flavor text or this is just something about some side mission that I'm going to find out about. But when you really understand the gravity of it, it's extremely effective.

I think the combat has been really satisfying on Tactician. So there's this one pretty difficult sequence where you have to defend a portal that one of your party members is going through to take care of a task. I'll talk about it vaguely, but it happens towards the middle of act two. And it's most of the way the game plays is it's just like direct, like, you know, you're kind of trying to pick off individual, like lower the lower the enemy's numbers. They're usually more enemies than your party. And you're trying to winnow their numbers and and just kind of control the chessboard uh the lance board if you will uh

that like but this one in particular you have to defend a target you have which which happens a few times um and it's tricky especially on tactician because the enemies hit so hard and this thing has like a very a very low health pool so if the enemies hit this like with like three or four arrows you're just cooked so it was one of those things where because this game presents like kind of problems not puzzles which is not unique to it um you know tears of the kingdom the same sort of thing but like there's a lot of games that have this approach uh but like there's not like just one way to solve it but when you figure out your way to solve it you feel like a genius which to me is

kind of like a magical like game design thing of like for me what i figured out was there is a an area effects spell called darkness uh and what that does is it prevents anyone you know it blinds anyone who's within it it's basically just like a like a big black cloud that goes over the landscape uh so anyone that's within it is blinded um and then they can't do ranged attacks uh out of it or into it so i was like okay i can use darkness which i'd usually use on like where the enemies are standing i can use it on my own play space on the portal so no one can attack this with missile attacks and i'm obviously not a thing that only i figured it out but once i figured it out i just had like total command of the scenario that was giving it a little bit of of struggle and it was

like so satisfying to overcome that and it's like the whole thing of just like you know the the the the most satisfied you feel with something is when it's like just at the edge of your competency um and uh and i feel like so many other games i guess in a more general sense this game treats you like an adult which is also a thing we like about the from soft games it's like this in so many games you would have an npc you have the dream visitor in this one who's like a companion that's in your ear sometimes like the dream visitor would be like like hmm perhaps you can protect that portal somehow and then the next turn like i wonder if a darkness spell would work on that portal and then like cast darkness on the

portal to protect it from the enemies you know i mean it's like they wouldn't give you the the time to to struggle and to overcome it and to figure out your own solution and that's not only the way the only way to solve it you know you can put a wall of fire on the battlefield or whatever or you can just sort of power through uh with raw horsepower from from your heavy hitters but it but it again it's just it's just like a very satisfying scenario because you have different approaches and whenever you figure out whatever yours is uh it really hits um the other thing i want to talk about was our our mutual friend eva anderson is playing through this game uh past guests of the podcast. Love this. And she's been texting me about this. Like Heather,

she took the genocide route and completely eliminated the tieflings in the grove. But the thing about this is like, and spoilers for early in act one, if you take this route, if you let the goblins come through and enable them or assist them in going into the druid grove and taking out all of the druids

and all of the tieflings, they also kill all of the children, which is a thing that most games just don't even address. Like, Spider-Man obviously is not going to have kids involved, but kids can't really come into harm. But certainly even something like Spider-Man obviously is not going to have kids involved. But like, you know, like kids can't we can't really come into harm. But certainly even something like Grand Theft Auto is like we're not even going to open

that can of worms. We're not going to let you do a dry ball by shooting and take out a bunch of a bunch of kids because we're going to get in so much trouble. And all of a sudden, Joe Lieberman is going to be having hearings on the Hill. Yeah. So but this game is like, you you know what we are we're talking about the consequences of your choices and there is a unique moral horror to you know to harming children and we're going to make you confront this like if you if you allow this uh evil to

come through here and you you are on its side then yes you have to deal with a pot a pile of toddler corpses and that's your fault. You did that. And that's like the sort of thing where, again, the game kind of like treats you like an adult and makes you understand that, like, look, I'm not in favor of that, but I'm in favor of that being a possibility in this medium. And I think it makes the storytelling, you know, that much more effective that you know that these sorts of things are possible.

Anyway, it's my favorite game all the time. I love it. Wow. All right. Let's talk about driving games a little bit. you know that much more effective that you know that these sorts of things are possible uh anyway it's my favorite game all the time i love it wow all right let's talk about driving games a little bit hey everyone you know you want to eat healthy you want to eat well but you don't want it to be a pain to prepare well let me tell you eating better is easy with factors delicious ready to eat meals every fresh never frozen meal is chef crafted dietician approved and ready to go in to prepare? Well, let me tell you, eating better is easy with Factor's delicious ready-to-eat meals. Every fresh, never-frozen meal is chef-crafted, dietician-approved, and ready to go in just two minutes. You'll have over 35 different options to choose from every week, including CalorieSmart, Protein Plus, and Keto. Also, there are more than 60 add-ons to help you stay fueled up and feeling good all day long. Fuel up fast with Factor's restaurant-quality meals that are ready

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Casey, I know this about you. You have a whole setup in terms of your own personal racing video game experience. That's right. I've got a sim rig and I'm very proud of it. Wow. I love it. I'll show you. Here's my steering wheel.

It is a hardcore piece of hardware. It's like the same size and weight of like a Formula One racing wheel. Wow. I got to wear gloves when I drive. Oh, my God. Oh, wow. For grip? for grip uh for grip so i recently updated my my rig uh and i'm very very excited about it uh yeah talk us through your your hardware real quick like what what are you playing on what's your platform of choice and then yeah you have the wheel do you have pedals what what's what's

your whole rundown yeah i i plan on ps5 uh i don't have a PC, which is like... If you want to be like a competitive sim racer, you really need the PC to play iRacing, which is like the main competitive sim racing game. I cannot play iRacing, so I play Gran Turismo. That was like kind of my my in to playing sim racing and i only really started sim racing after uh getting into uh f1 through marika um and like we went go-karting a couple times i tried to make that like my new hobby uh and i learned how expensive it gets and also right the the uh uh the guys who run the the go-kart place call them out yeah the k1 in burbank uh the teenagers that work there

uh they don't seem to take racing as seriously as uh as some of us wow so i was like i need something else uh yeah and then uh so i got like an entry level wheel uh and pedals and started playing gran turismo or i started playing the f1 the ea sports f1 game and it is impossible to play if you've never done sim racing marika has tried i can't express how hard this game is wow i i picked it up i so i have the 2021 version and after you saw uh the invite i was like hey try again. You know, it can't be that bad. And I within 10 minutes was like, I'm out of here. It doesn't give you instructions at all. Yeah, they don't.

They do not tell you how to drive the car. Oh, wow. But Gran Turismo does it does a good job of teaching you basically like how to drive a car like a like a race car like finding the apex uh finding the racing line um so i started with like entry level uh wheels uh and pedals i have since upgraded to a fanatec system which is what they're like showing off at the beginning of the gran turismo movie um and i was like i need to i need this is what they're like showing off at the beginning of the grand turismo movie um and i was like i need to i need this is what i need uh and honestly i need this it makes such a huge difference like updating the equipment because it's it's like a whole machine and and i also

got like this this upgraded power supply that makes it as realistic as possible with the feedback that you get in the wheel and that's why i need the gloves because it's like steering a real car um wow and when you're like just doing laps and laps and laps and you're like you know 20 laps in like you you feel it in your hands and like in your forearms. Right. And then the pedals I've recently upgraded to are called load cell pedals, specifically with the brake. And that's designed to, you know, you program it on the computer, how much pressure is 100% on the pedal. And you want the consistency when you're taking the turns.

Because like so much of it is like muscle memory right so you want to know exactly how much i got to give uh on the break uh and know exactly which gear to shift down to uh that'll give me optimum speed on the exit of the turn and that's how you shave seconds off your time yeah that's ultimately how i fail at go uh so so speaking of someone who doesn't you know know much about f1 or or racing in general uh so i f1 an f1 course is not like a nascar course right it's not like an oval that you just drive you know you're only turning left the whole time there's all sorts of like different courses have different orientations and and different turns that they take um so i imagine that's that's a big part of the a racing experience yeah and i think the formula one drivers like casey was saying they do have this like crazy

muscle memory for all of the tracks especially if they're ones that like they frequent every season um and there's been like videos of them taking tests where it's like it's crazy they they like hear just listening engine and like the brakes and know which track it is based off of like just the sound it makes or like yeah it's crazy and they practice on racing simulators yeah right yes because you mentioned the gran turismo movie uh which you've covered on on your podcast and which i i still haven't seen but i've heard positive things about matt did you see their gran turismo i haven't seen it my mom loved it it's on netflix yeah yeah that's i i know i know y'all liked it but i like i'm like does that like that's an element in that movie and that's part of how it's marketed is just like yeah real drivers are are

training themselves on uh on video games yeah there's there's there is a bit of it in uh in the movie the movie is based on a true story uh marika what's what's his name i can't remember jan marber or something like that yeah who did this basically yeah he was a he like competed in a gran turismo tournament and they had like a contest to get uh sim racers into real cars so it's like kind of his story and it kind of uh although like the equipment they're using is like modern yeah um all the all the the the real racers in the movie they're they're you know it's it's like oh that's this is a gamer this is real life you don't you don't you can't cut it uh well fast forward to today uh max verstappen who is uh maybe the best race car driver in the world today he's uh

current two-time f1 world champion uh he is like an advocate for sim racing and is like this is the next generation of race car drivers will be made through uh sim racing i think he's also racing the daytona i don't know if it's the 500 or what but he's sim racing it like as an actual competitor He is he's the number one real driver in the world and he's also the number three sim driver in the world That's wild. That's crazy Um, I just looked up the real that's like kevin durant being like the best at nba 2k It doesn't really make sense in my brain I know it

It feels like it doesn't really make sense in my brain i know it it feels like it doesn't make sense but once you once you like are using this stuff like like using the wheel and the pedals it is a simulation of real driving like the physics in the game are are as realistic as possible oh yeah i guess he max verstappen won at iRacing 24 Hours of Daytona. Wow. Wow. I just looked up the real guy that the Gran Turismo movie is based off, Jan Mardenboro, and he's younger than me and I want to die.

They made a movie about a guy younger than me. That fucking sucks get used to it yeah it's gonna happen to me now for the rest of my life yeah so you so you mentioned okay so you've been talking about gran turismo is that kind of like your game like have you been into the gran turismo series in, uh, you know, since back in the day, or, or was this all recent because of, of, um, uh, is, is this all recent because of your F1 fandom?

I, I had tried playing Gran Turismo back in the day on a controller. And, and I just, I'm so, I was so used to like Grand Theft Auto car physics and driving mechanics. Very arcadey. Yeah. when i tried to like do it on a simulator with a controller uh i i would just crash on turn one every every single time

uh so i like put it away uh didn't hadn't revisited it until i got you know, into racing, like as a proper interest, enthusiast, hobby sort of thing. Um, and then, yeah, learning the mechanic, Gran Turismo teaching me the mechanics of how to drive the car, um, opened me up to wanting to play other games. Uh, and so I, I mostly play the F1, uh, uh game because that's that's like why i wanted to start doing it was because i wanted to do drive those uh formula style cars and do the got tracks that i watch uh all of my best friends drive um and yeah uh i i like playing gran turismo but but they don't really have they have like super formula cars which are similar to the formula one cars but they don't have the the top speed uh but it is it is fun to hop on to gran turismo and drive like a prius or

sure yeah right like my dad's old Corvette or something like that. That's, that's, that's where I get the joy out of Gran Turismo is just like having fun driving these other different kinds of cars. And then the F1 game, it's like, I am watching my times.

I am trying to figure out how to get faster where I'm slow in the corners, that sort of thing. And, and so maybe this is jumping ahead a little bit too but like how do you feel about like in how do you feel about a like a party racer like a crash team racing or like a mario kart or something like obviously that's very different it's not real at all it has no uh it has some basis for driving you can use a like a wheel kind of for for mario kart but uh do you do you enjoy playing those at all or is

it only like if it's like if it can feel real no i i uh i love mario kart i don't play it as much as i would like um but but i do have fun i've never tried playing it with the wheel i don't know how that would work and i've tried like yeah recently playing it with keeping in mind like the uh the race line like that sort of stuff uh you know uh break in a straight line yeah i should not be using the break right i'm gonna get a blue shell no matter what so it's like but i do love it it's very fun because the the wii mario kart like had the wheel you know peripheral that you use and that was that was how you control that one uh marika how about you like do you like the as a non-driver um you

messed around with the f1 games but like like do you like in our a more arcadey racer do you like something that's a little bit uh you know, goofier, less connected to reality? like a big let's play watcher for a while um i feel like i definitely gravitate more towards the like arcade racers um like mario kart i'd say is probably the one that i've played the most and like during the pandemic was like doing tournaments and stuff with uh co-workers and that was a lot of fun and i actually like i would say when i started playing mario kart even though i enjoyed it i like i just could not steer correctly like i think i i would like accidentally basically act like i was driving but like be playing with like like right yeah actual joysticks but i would like turn my hands for no reason. So I got better at that.

I learned how to drift. I got good. And so that now that's like fun to play, but I haven't, I haven't really played it recently. And I don't know. I think like, even though GTA is not a racing game,

like they came out with their um like online i think it was like the cunning stunts dlc or something which was like this crazy uh dlc where there were just like a ton of tracks for races that were like tubes that would go into the sky and you could like race i see these constantly on the bottom half of tiktoks yeah yeah it's all i see yeah no i know what you're talking about but yeah so i feel like that is maybe like one of the best things i was added to that game um and those were just i hadn't like played it a few times online i didn't really love playing online myself but i've i've amassed like hours and hours of watching people play it over the years and it was very enjoyable to watch those uh matt how about you like let's let's talk driving games

a little bit because i know we've gotten into this in the past but i but i i like like do you have any all-time favorites when it comes to the racing side of things and also it just generally about cars in video games because they're yeah we've experienced good and bad versions of that and like the open world experience yeah i was just about to say that like grand theft auto 5 has like great driving in it like as far as like you know not realistic but like it feels good to drive the car yeah no it's fun it's fun to drive in pretty much all the grand theft auto games actually they figured that out when when games like yeah from from three on okay one and two people are people are polarized on those i mean i i never really liked how the the first couple

grand theft autos and uh controlled Yeah. Sort of top down perspective. But I think from three on, they've been. Yeah. Once they got there, they went to 3D. They've been very play. I mean, it's silly to say that they got it right. It's like the main thing that you do. It's in the title of the game.

But it has to. But it has to work or else those games don't work. It has to. And so I love that. We've talked about the the Batman, the Batman Arkham Batmobile. I don't work it has to and so i i love that i we've talked about the the batman the batman arkham batmobile i don't love it um you know the there's and i talked we obviously i love mario kart and crash team racing um i will be a um jack x combat racing uh defender uh there you go that i i loved that i was just a big fan of the jack

and daxter franchise and i loved um i loved that game i thought it was really fun um i thought it was awesome because you already mentioned crash team racing but that era when they when everyone was trying to make the mario kart killer yes and now everyone's giving up on it and they'd be like well mario kart will just you know be this hegemony and that that'll that'll be the only kart racer that's out there but it's just like i really liked when everyone was trying their own version of a mascot racer yeah a lot of those are fun the the uh donkey kong racing was was one of my favorites donkey kong racing i just tried it for the first time actually at my friend connor's house and i was so bad at it before before you go too far down this road because I just I'm

looking forward a week and you're giving another correction. The game is Diddy Kong Racing. Diddy Kong Racing. I'm so sorry. It's alright. Casey, don't fuck me up like that dude. Okay? You don't see me going on your show and saying that the tires on the cars are triangles.

Okay? You're welcome dude. The tires on the cars are triangles okay you're welcome to the tires on the cars are triangles but that's insane okay but i i like i do like some racing games i but all all of my love of uh like racing games comes from my love of like the fast and furious franchise and also in tandem with when i was a kid my mom worked for mitsubishi motors so that's right you mentioned i've mentioned this before and she would get to um she worked in like the corporate office here in uh in southern california and um because of this, she got to have like a new car every like six months. So, uh, instead of doing what she should have done, which was like have a more

sensible car for a single mom and three children, she would get us whatever car we picked. Cause she's awesome. She was like the cool, she's so cool. Uh, she was young. She was like, oh yeah, you guys want the Lancer Evo six, huh? we get the evo 6 we love how the evo 6 looks and so she would drop us off at school in an evo 6 and we like would have to like have grocery bags in our lap instead of the trunk because there was no trunk space but like it was we that was such a fun thing and so when when playing these types of games i often will go back to like those, that style of car, um, like a Mitsubishi, uh, like just the eclipse was also big. We love the eclipse.

Um, but eventually we got a Montero sport. We did eventually get a more sensible car. Cause my mom was like, this is ridiculous. So you can't, you guys can't pick the car anymore. Um, but I would play need for speed Underground because that was also that was like what, 2003, 2004 or something. So like I feel like car modding culture sort of like kind of really took on at that point because like the show like Pimp My Ride was on TV and stuff.

And so I would just watch, you know know exhibit just massacre these cars and just ruin everybody's life think i'm undriveable yeah put a watching machine in the car and like that's like bad you don't want that in there um but i just i liked the um the customization in in that game and just playing the cars and like the soundtracks in those games were pretty good um but i also really enjoyed um forza horizon 5 which came out um maybe two years ago at this point um on xbox and i i got pretty into that game uh when it when it came out uh on on game pass and was just playing it uh for a while just like non-stop i loved just getting in some races like online that was really fun i don't have a wheel or anything so i was playing on the controller but um that's like those are like the games that i really love but also you're mentioning seeing some racing in person

uh at the at the start of this i used to go to i grew up you know nick's a long beach guy also nick you ever go yeah the long beach grand prix i love the long beach grand prix dude it's yes i did it was the thing i like i just like oh yeah the grand prix is every year yeah and i just sort Also, Nick, you ever go to the Long Beach Grand Prix? I love the Long Beach Grand Prix, dude. It's huge. I did. It was a thing. I like I just like, oh, yeah, the Grand Prix is every year. Yeah. And I just sort of like took it in stride and had no idea it was like this huge like

event in motorsports. Yeah. I went for the first time last year and I had a blast and I will be going again this year. OK. I'd love to. I'd love to go because I haven't been in so long. You used to they used to give like

free tickets to it in like the newspaper. So like you would just buy like five newspapers and then we're all going for free. Uh, and we would just go. And the thing that they had there, I don't know if they still do it. I'm sure they must, but they had a celebrity race. Uh, like, so like famous people would do the course. and one of the years it was like it was such a a mixed bag first of all one of these people shouldn't have been doing it but he's an enthusiast and i understand one of the years it was like carlos mencia adam carolla and keanu reeves and keanu reeves fucking won of course he rocks and i was like he's like he's gonna win you've seen him driving john wick yeah but i was like

you don't have to be here man like this is look who else is here you don't have to do this and this is in between obviously john wick hadn't come out i think all three matrices all three matrix movies had come out um so he was like in that sort of in between era uh he was at the lake house he was at uh um scanner darkly you know he wasn't really uh popping yeah sure yeah again but uh it was great it was a thrill of a lifetime to see him he looked like a million bucks too in the fucking uh in the gear let's okay can we just because you mentioned yeah my ride yeah and i i did watch that show back in the day it you are is everyone aware of the pimp my ride ps2 game no aware of it it's one of the most it's one of the most bizarre things i've never played it uh but i i have watched uh videos of it and

let's let's watch a little bit of this if i can get this working of um this is the ghost ride the whip mini game that's in that's in the ps2 game with exhibits likeness uh let's see if this works he has such like a yosemite sam stance yeah this guy's walking next to a car as the car is rolling down in neutral it's just during a crip walk i guess yeah yeah this is a little text i guess there's like a rhythm pimping yeah yeah there's like a rhythm game element of like doing dance moves in coordination with your car rolling down the boulevard i was ready to laugh at this i think this is good it's kind of awesome i think i didn't understand the concept of ghost riding yeah i didn riding. I thought it was like you had

to be on top of the car or something, but he's just like walking beside it. He's like, I would say as far as how close he could be to the car, he could be a lot closer. He's so far away from the car. He could be a lot closer. He's in a complete different lane.

Yeah. Maybe that's more impressive the further away you get yeah that could be part of the challenge um but i i haven't i've thought about getting a race i always think about getting stuff like i always want to get like a fight stick i don't play like that i don't play like fighting games like that i always want like the wheel and seat and pedal and stuff and i'm like ah i but i like getting stuff there's a lot of stuff you can get okay see that's what i love to hear now i'm in that's good i like getting stuff your rig doesn't have the seat though right i do not have the seat um it's it's a you know i want the seat but to get the seat i would then need a separate monitor

to mount on the on the rig right now i play i pull out a folding chair and i sit in front of my my big tv yeah and i play that way but also since i've upgraded the drive system uh like the the stand that i had that that i originally got with the like cheap entry level wheel is not strong enough for the the uh the drive system like there's too much power it's too wobbly uh and it's like uh it starts to come loose from from the stand so now i'm like okay now i need to upgrade the stand yeah yeah uh so mate might as well get the chair you don't want to be like that guy from the you want to be like that guy from the i think you should leave sketch where the steering wheel flies off when you're driving it exactly what i don't

want to do but nick do you you i don't know if i know you to mess around with like too many racing sims or like, anything like that. Do you, do you like to get behind the wheel in the car? I don't like, I don't like driving. This is the thing is like, like I can drive a car.

I am a licensed driver and I will drive by necessity, but I really don't like driving. Like it makes me anxious. Um, and, uh, I also just like get really into, I just get really frustrated at, at just urban design because I'm like, this is such a this is so inefficient to have so much space for, you know, lanes of highways and for surface parking.

It's just like, you know, cities should be for people, not cars. So like like like I generally don't like. And so when I'm doing something escapist, I don't want to be driving in it. So, for instance, Cyberpunk 207777 which also initially had very bad driving they think they they fixed the physics to some degree it works a lot better uh in the 2.0 version um and honestly in some of the earlier updates but like i did not like the driving in that game i used the motorcycles because it was like the most the easiest to maneuver the easiest to corner and then also there's there's a fast travel in that game that i would just basically use all the time

oh yeah i could just skip through all the driving segments so like generally how i'm playing games like i i want to avoid driving it uh if i uh unless i unless i have to um but that said there are some some racing games that i've liked and they tend to be a little bit more arcadey uh you already mentioned diddy kong racing but that was a game i got really into on the nintendo 64 i i 100 percented that game for some reason the single player mode um the you know mario kart franchise obviously um uh there was this game on the nes called rc pro am where you like raced little they you did i didn't realize you were racing RC cars until I was older. I was just like, oh, that's what the cars look like. But I was playing as a little kid.

I really liked it. And that was really like the maneuverability felt really good. And, you know, it had like cool. It was like like Excitebike had like cool power ups. You could like roll over. I like that sort of shit and ramps and stuff. But also the f0 franchise which has been kind of dormant since i think the gamecube era and you know another nintendo

franchise that's like not their one of their top tier ones but i think it's just like all those games are pretty awesome i know they came out with f0 99 but it's just like give me a proper f0 on the switch or the switch 2 you know why not The, the other thing I want to talk about, uh, relatedly, and when I really do like racing games and maybe this goes back to the, you know, the original topic we had here,

which was when we're talking about the, the racing rig, when we're talking about having a wheel and pedals, I really like an arcade cabinet where you can drive the thing, or ideally you can sit down or like in you know super hang on you can climb on top of a motorcycle like i love stuff i love stuff like that uh i remember this the the first one i experienced was pole position which was basically had like atari 2600 it was slightly better than that but like you know it had like 8-bit level sub 8-bit graphics

uh but you could control it with a wheel and pedals if memory serves. And like that was like an amazing experience as a video game. And so anytime something is like that, I mean, like if there is an arcade cabinet, you can sit down at a barcade or Dave and Buster's or something. I tend to gravitate towards that. Yeah, I feel like Crazy Taxi was probably my first like experience with any sort of racing game. That's a great shout out. We did an episode on Crazy Taxi back in the day.

And yeah, that game is... I did play a lot of it. That's another one. I did play a lot of that on Dreamcast. Yeah, I feel I only ever played it at my local CC's Pizza in Savannah georgia i probably also didn't play it i probably was just like sitting watching the demo but um i have yeah i have a fondness towards crazy taxi for sure um and cruising cruising was one right great loved cruising usa i don't know if if we want to count it but as far as arcade racers go uh the uh pod racing game oh yes oh yeah episode

one racer yeah fuck yeah specifically in an arcade where you get to sit in the cockpit and you control it that's with the levers that is yeah that is pot racing it's cool as hell uh i don't i don't want to get too distracted derailed here but you mentioned cc's pizza wait are you like do you remain a cc's pizza fan i can't imagine there are any in new york there aren't any in new york but i do i think i still have the phone number of my cc's pizza on my phone and i refuse to delete it like i loved it it was just like the place that we would always get pizza for like school or anything so i have a real fondness for it it's like a buffet right i've never been to one yeah it's a buffet and i would like go

i would sit i also like i didn't have any game systems or cable when i was growing up so i would like go to cc's pizza i'd get like a ton of pizza slices. I'd sit. There was like a big screen where Cartoon Network was always playing. And I was like, this is what being a kid is like. You're sitting there and you're like,

wow, I'm such a kid. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying. I think I maybe now I'm like, did I maybe have CC's Pizza once in washington state or something because i remember going to a cc's like place but i'm not sure it was exactly that but i did not know it had arcade uh cabinets in it because that's the thing i remember from our

round table pizza that was like you know one one reason i love that place is you could go there and like you know they'd have like a x-men arcade game yeah it was very minimal like ours had a racing game uh i probably like a claw machine and i think a claw like game but that had candy instead or something like that like super like nothing there basically but it's a good times yeah it sounds like it um any other any other thoughts on on driving games? It's just such a vast thing to cover, and I know we can't possibly get to anything, but is there anything else anyone wants to shout out? I guess maybe if I have a question to maybe direct things,

it's like whatever your level of enthusiasm towards driving in video games or IRL is, what makes a good one like what makes you like like stick with some and bounce off of others I don't know I mean I feel like my exposure to a lot of driving games is just through watching stuff on YouTube and i feel like the ones that i really enjoyed like there are there are a lot of those like open world driving games like fuel uh is one that's technically a racing game but like it's huge i think like those at least from like a watching perspective you have to be really committed to just like sitting looking at a car go through a desert or something for like hours um but i don't know things like gta5 for sure um there's like i feel like there's some arcade racers that have that

mario kart e element where like you can make the track explode there's one called i don't know what year it is but there's one called split second have you heard of that one at all that's like you can it's like an arcade racer but you can like call airstrikes and like oh wow make like train tracks explode on the track to try and just like destroy other cars that sounds great and that like those kinds of things i think are really entertaining those are like a lot more fun to watch just because of the chaos um and then i i don't know if it would technically count as a racing game but i think like the trials series like trials evolution uh trials hd and all of those they're like the motorcycle like you can technically race yeah people but i think like the

fact that you can do those and like reset because it's an obstacle course like right right that becomes really interesting the obstacle course and also being a race um so i yeah i've watched videos of this of this being played and just like the physics of it are really like yeah impressive and i understand why people want to like just keep playing the same course over and over yeah you know i think it was also like a big like there were like a lot of achievements you could get back in the day with those i mean speaking of physics that's that's honestly what i uh pay attention to the most specifically in like the sim games uh you know more sim less arcade um that that is uh the the closer you get to the car feeling real the more subtle uh like your movements need to be like like if i give the gas a little too much going out of a turn

i could easily like spin out or like oversteer or understeer um so when i'm like looking for for like a sim game it's like it really comes down to like the physics like the graphics don't even need to be that great it's it's does does the do i feel the weight of the car that i'm driving and if i do then then i feel like it's a better kind of uh game but honestly any game that has a driving mechanic in it i i get hyped about and i'm excited to drive whatever i'm allowed to drive in any kind of game um also if you guys are interested there is a place in pasadena called world of racing and it is sim racing only it's like a bunch of uh simulation cockpits that would like motion wow but it is like

real uh driving simulation i was gonna say there's also i don't know why griff this like is enough of an arcadey situation for you but like there's now popping up around the world these f1 arcades where you can sit in those like sim rigs and play in an like you just like buy some races you can like go with friends and play against each other and i went to one in london i think there's one opening in boston wow this year um and i was really bad i raced by myself and i did not do well but it was a lot of fun and it's like fun it has like the feedback of the chair like the wheel that casey's talking about where you can like you have to like really grip it and all that kind of stuff it's cool yeah i'm looking this site now this is like

an officially branded thing it like it looks really snazzy uh where my mind uh how my mind operates i immediately clicked on it was like the one in london was way too fancy for what i was expecting they had asap soap in the bathroom i can't stop talking about that like it looked like a real like a nice classy establishment wow but with like 40 some rigs the sharing plates has a 28 day aged himalayan salt dried flat iron steak i'm like all right give me some sliders yeah calm down i'm looking for a nugget dog yeah a big thing that uh that uh i just i want to mention also formula one does is they they have like their own esports league like every team has the sim racing version of the team and and they will often like compete

at the races that the real life drivers are are driving at uh so so f1 is like really on board with with sim racing and and integrating it into the world of motorsport it's great and i also i don't think we really talked about it but like all of the teams have reserve drivers that bank hours on these like sim rigs to help the team like learn more about the car and the track and everything which is super like their job is just to play games for the team dream job yeah it's amazing i think if i go to the the sim rig place i'm gonna need somebody to drive me there and drive me back because i think the most dangerous thing for me would be getting in a car after doing that anytime i like when i left mad max fury road i was like this is gonna be a disaster you suddenly had the guitar that's shooting yeah yeah yeah i became

the gimp guy man the movie rocked oh yeah so so good did you play the game the game is good it was was good yeah uh it has that similar crunchy combat to like a arkham uh or um those lord of the rings games really really good i loved it a lot and good driving in it actually too uh casey's point about the the weight is the big thing because the weight wasn't there in the Arkham Knight Batmobile. The weight wasn't there in cyberpunk 1.0. Right. They got closer in 2.0.

Um, but if the, if I can't feel the, um, like those tires screeching the way I want, it's not, it's off the whole things. If it, if it just kind of feels like it's floating there, just sort of like moving, like you're like playing the way I want, it's not, it's off the whole things. If it,

if it just kind of feels like it's floating there, just sort of like moving, like you're like playing with a toy car above the ground, kind of, that's not, that's not it. That's just, it just never feels good.

Um, but if you can feel the weight, that's, that's all you need, baby. It's all the difference. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, the only, the only thing I'll add to that is, and, and I think this probably goes without saying but i'll say it anyway but uh it's it's the the genre where frame rate is premium and you know like that you'll see a lot of games especially and in the current generation that are sacrificing um frame rate for graphical fidelity so these things can run on 4k tvs which i get but man a racing game's gotta be

just you know locked in at 160 fps or 120 fps you know whatever the platform is i mean just it's it's it's really that's that's key i think to having the sense of speed um all right i i got a segment for us oh it's time for our video game version of would you rather this is would you blathers so how would you blathers works is uh named in honor of the animal crossing owl i will give you a video game related scenario and you can each chime in on which one you'd prefer. And today, these are all related to driving in video games. So this is a driving game edition of Would You Blathers? All right. Does everyone understand the format?

Oh, yeah. Got it. Okay, great. First up, Would You Blathers? Haul an 18-wheeler cross-country like an american truck simulator or manage a busy gas station like in gas station simulator i think i would rather manage a busy gas station i haven't seen any um of that simulator but i've seen the american truck simulator and i think i would immediately stall out the car and not

be able to get back anywhere i'm i'm 100 with you you know both both very dangerous jobs uh you know uh more dangerous than being a cop and so like i would uh i would so i would rather but still all that said i think i would rather be the gas station uh manager i feel like i could handle that a little bit better.

I think, do I get to pick the snacks, the offerings? Yeah, of course. You're all in, whatever you want to do. But you also get to pick your snacks if you're on the road as well. Oh, okay. Now that's interesting to think about. You're stopping at a Bucky's. What are you going to load up on?

I don't know if I have, like i i don't mind driving right but i don't know if i could sit in the in the cab you know in the cabin of a car for like 18 hours i can't i don't have the patience for it and i i do think that people that do those jobs are absolute heroes like it's it's like it's it's such a such a slog um if we have any truckers out there listen to the pod thank you for your service and give me two toots on that horn real quick why don't you yeah honestly I think I'm gonna go the trucker

route you do have trucker energy you really do have trucker energy this is uh yeah I get it um yeah I have a it's a if you're if you're OK being like alone for long stretches and you don't mind driving like that. It does feel like a a cool job. Yeah, my I used to share an office when I worked in the video game industry with a very talented designer and his dad was a trucker.

very talented designer and his dad was a trucker and he would say like he'd be on road trips with his dad uh and his dad would just like pull over to the side of the road and be like all right time to go to sleep and just lean his like the driver's seat back and go to sleep like in their truck and it's just like that that's a thing that was totally foreign to him but i guess you just learn how to do that if that's your your job man i wish i could do that now i whenever i would go on a road trip with my mom it was like like she wouldn't pull over on the side of the road but she would just be like we're gonna power through and i'm gonna sleep for an hour and then we're gonna get back on the road i would i would do it on the freeway just driving from where i live to santa monica just be like he's a little natural click

uh all right next up would you blathers work as a taxi driver and only be able to listen to bad religion and the offspring like in crazy taxi or only be able to listen to synth rock covers of the simpsons soundtrack, like in the Simpsons road rage. Wow. That's hard. Does that include the Bartman, but synth rock?

I think so. Yeah. I think you got to assume Bartman's in there. I don't know if it's actually on the soundtrack, but maybe in the credits. Look, I'm a SoCal kid. I grew up hearing bad religion and the offspring on k-rock my whole life i'm going the simpsons i'm done i'm done with those songs

uh who are your k who are k-rock djs you like you like jed the fish i like jed the fish i was a big cat corbett fan actually oh sure yeah I loved um I mean Kevin and Bean were such institutions uh yeah for sure when they were on the air and they were when they were no I'd listen to Kevin Bean every morning yeah uh but that was I I feel like uh I liked Cat Corbett's show because she would play like local bands like local new bands too I liked that a lot so uh probably Cat Corbett's my i'm a cat corbett stan how many times what can i say cat corbett you think i don't know keep going uh casey how about you uh i think i gotta go i gotta go taxi route um look i grew up also listening to

offspring and bad religion uh a lot in the Tony Hawk soundtracks. So nothing makes me feel more alive than hearing some Bad Religion. And, you know, I could get the fares there quicker, which I don't think is what I want as a taxi driver. But maybe it'll mean better tips. I think I would also go with Bad Religion and The Offspring. As much as I love the music of The Simpsons, I don't love it being synth rock. That would drive me crazy. All right, next up.

Would you blathers compete in illegal street racing like in Need for Speed Underground or compete in a driving version of soccer on an oversized field like in Rocket League? I'll answer this one. I'd rather do Rocket League just for the novelty of it. Kicking around a big old soccer ball with a truck feels like fun. I don't even remember what the first option was.

I want to do Rocket League. I remember when Rocket League was brand new. new i was like this is the most genius thing i've ever seen in my life this is such a good idea played rocket racer they're like on fortnight yeah yeah no i have not it's nick we're gonna have to talk about it soon it's okay it's fucking great. Wow. Yeah, it's a no-brainer to do the Rocket League version. Illegal street racing. Look, I love to drive my car fast, but I don't street race because I don't trust anybody else on the road.

Right, yeah. Even Lewis Hamilton will tell you that he hates driving on regular roads. People don't know what they're doing. Yeah. But if I could get in a car and bump a big ball around and do flips and I get to put like a hat

on top of my car, I'm all for it. I think you could do that in real life if you really wanted. Marika, you on Rocket League? Yeah. For all the same reasons it's like it just seems so imagine you this was like a the easiest one would you rather do um something that you could already kind of do or would you rather do the absolute impossible the greatest thing man could try to

attempt i think i think the case for need for speed underground is it's very cool like it is really cool yeah um and then also that i there's a chance that rocket league in real life is extremely dangerous there's a chance sure yeah yeah um uh all right next up would you blathers be a crazed clown with a flaming head driving in an ice cream truck like sweet tooth and twisted metal or be a steroid uh ridden muscle man with no car frame and two just two giant wheels attached to your limbs like axle and twisted metal i'm going axle all the way i axle is so so cool, yeah. I like Sweet Tooth, but Axel's cool. Yeah, I'm gonna go same. I think I'm gonna go

Sweet Tooth. Sweet Tooth's cool, it's a good choice. He's cool, but I'm a big ice cream guy, too. I'm a cone freak. I love a good cone. Matt, that's a great point. So I already got my stuff. I'll get high on my own supply. That's fine.

Alright, final would-you blathers. So I already got my stuff. I'll get high on my own supply. That's fine. All right. Final would you blathers. Would you blathers be a cat like entity who can morph into a passenger van like Morgana in Persona 5 or be a sentient car like Lightning McQueen in the Cars video game? However, because it's the video game, you are not voiced by Owen Wilson. Can I ask about this Persona 5 character? Does she actually turn into a car in the game or is it she just has like the power to turn into things? Morgana does turn into a car.

I wonder if I can find a video of it. First off, I'll give you the I'll share the art with you so you can get a sense of the character design because he is he is a real cutie pie um okay here's what morgana in persona 5 looks like this little chibi cat with the big head okay okay and let me see if let me see if i can find a video of the the transformation because the first time it happened for me in the game, it broke my brain. Yeah, this could make or break it for me. I know it's an anime trope, but it was surprising.

Was I, Casey? This could make or break it for me, the transformation and what I choose. Matt, you got that far into Persona 5, I know. Oh, yeah. I mean, I did. I got like... I played that game for like 60 hours, and I didn't even come close to finishing it. No, it's a big one. But I do have a fondness for Morgana,

and I do... I wish I had finished it. I could go back, I guess. But I did like... I bought it on Switch after playing it on Game Pass I was like I'll just pick it up again on Switch and I was like what am I doing I can't do this

again but maybe I need some distance it's a daunting commitment but I love that game let's watch this I think it's right at the top of this video Morgana transform top of this video morgana transform that one that one for sure yeah yeah yeah absolutely absolutely what's the point of being lightning mcqueen even if you can't even be owen wilson yeah can i can i say yeah yeah yeah can I can I say yeah you might not have the rights

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