Get Played - Games That Time Forgot

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

Matt, Heather and Nick discuss some of their favorite games lost to time! They also talk more about the current season of Fortnite, Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door, Final Fantasy VII Rebir...th and more!Follow us on Twitter and Instagram @getplayedpod.Music by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.com.Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com.Check out our Anime watch-along podcast Get Anime'd and our complete Get Played, How Did This Get Played? and Premium DLC back catalogue only on patreon.com/getplayed. Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayedWanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at getplayedpod@gmail.com Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Hey Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, you're never gonna believe this. I learned this really cool thing about an old video game. Heather, Heather. What? Nick's dead. Oh my god. Nick's fucking dead.
Starting point is 00:00:21 He died. That's horrible, but is related to what I was talking about. Oh My god next fucking dead he died that's horrible, but is Related to what I was just about to tell you Campbell this better be good. It's it's really a friend. I know we did but listen to me Do you remember that old game altered beast that came out initially in arcades and then for the second Genesis and the second master system? Yeah, yeah, so that game begins with Zeus commanding over the corpse of a dead man. Right. That he rise from his grave and then he rises. Right. Well what I learned this weekend
Starting point is 00:00:58 on the internet is it turns out if you go to any grave and you say rise from your grave just like that The person will rise from their grave Heather. This is perfect Nick just died I know I know we can bring Nick back with this We're gonna have to wait two weeks for the funeral, but then we'll just I mean, I guess we could do it at the morgue. Do you know where he died or how let's wait till he gets buried? Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Two weeks later. Alright. Matt, shh. I think I don't see the security guard. I think we're okay. No, but we have to be so quiet.
Starting point is 00:01:36 We gotta be so quiet because the cemeteries are like, they'll shoot you on sight. And they'll just put you in one of those holes. Yeah, they've got graves everywhere. Alright, oh here it is. Nick Weigert. Beloved family man. That's strange. Huh? But, alright, I'm gonna say it.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Not what I thought it would say. Yeah, not what I thought it would say. I kinda thought it would just be blank. Look, don't make jokes. Nick is dead. In two weeks we can joke about our dead friend. Yeah, that's true, that's true, that's true. All right, I'm gonna say here we go Rise from your grave
Starting point is 00:02:22 It's fucking working! It's working! Oh my god! Why? Why? I was at peace! Why? I was finally at peace! I'd finally escaped my misery! Why? Why did you bring me back? Nick! No! We missed you so much! I was enjoying eternal rest! No! Why? No Nick! We wanted you to come back and do the podcast with us! I'm sorry! No! No! God no! Nick I hate to say this. I hate to say this, Nick.
Starting point is 00:02:47 You look like shit, dude. I feel horrible! Oh my God! No, Nick, Nick, Nick, just calm down. Just calm down. It's OK. Imagine all of the people you left behind. You could see them again.
Starting point is 00:02:57 My wife already reburied. Let me be at peace! Oh God! Oh my God! I had no idea! I'm so sorry! That was so fast! This is maybe uncouth to ask.
Starting point is 00:03:10 You died in sort of mysterious circumstances. We were wondering if you could enlighten us as to how you passed away. I had a VR headset on my face and a belt around my neck, right? What more do you want from me? I was finally at peace! Oh no! No! No! Put me back! Put me back! I was smiling at peace! No! No! No! Put me back! Put me back!
Starting point is 00:03:28 I don't know, okay, okay, uh, go in your grave! Go in your grave! That didn't work, no! Sleep in your grave! No! Oh no, it's not working! Well... What?
Starting point is 00:03:40 I've always wanted to kill Nick. Jesus Christ! Do it, please! It's what I want. Oh my god. Okay, here's a gun okay yeah I forgot you recently joined the NRA yeah it's correct okay here we go Nick see ya in hell brother it didn't work I think I'm indestructible now oh my god no oh my god wait maybe you have to die the way that you died originally here I'll give you a VR helmet and a belt what if we do this here? and both of you?
Starting point is 00:04:19 we'll turn around okay we'll turn around yeah give me a little privacy are you done? can we turn around! Okay, yeah, give me a little privacy. We're just gonna turn around. Are you done? Can we turn around? It didn't work. Oh no! We take a trip down memory card lane as we discuss our favorite games
Starting point is 00:04:36 that time forgot, this week on Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nick Weiger. That's me, Nick Weiger, and I'm here with our third host, Matt Apodaca. Hello everyone. Hello everyone, and welcome back to the premier video game podcast where we've got something kind of neat teed up for this episode.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We're going to be talking about something from the past. Yeah. So sit your ass down because we're actually going to talk about something interesting this time. Yeah. Wait, what? This time? I also don't know how interesting it's going to be. This is going to be a very, very interesting one.
Starting point is 00:05:44 This one shoots right to the top of the charts It's the number one best episode of get played ever so I want to talk to you guys real quick about Ivermectin We should uh They feel like we need to bring up in here that I am still reeling from the casual revelation last week when we were talking about fall of the series and Matt tells us his full name is Matthew Kyle Appadaka because his mom Named him for Kyle McLaughlin It doesn't really inform that much about me, but it also kind of does.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like my mom's young and like, I was born in December of 1990 and Twin Peaks had probably come on in... What did it start airing in 89 or something? It was a very zeitgeist-y show at the time. Everyone was talking about it. It was like a thing where she was like, this handsome actor. I love this guy. Wow. And Kyle's a good name.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I had never thought about it. And it just also somehow sort of like firmly plants me as a Southern California kid because I feel like Kyle is a West Coast name. Big time. Yeah. There was definitely an era where Kyle was like the Brayden that is today, you know? Yeah. Kind of a bro name.
Starting point is 00:07:11 There's a huge difference between if you were Matt Apodaca or Kyle Apodaca. Kyle Apodaca is a different guy. Kyle Apodaca lives in Venice Beach. Like he's like a beach bum. He's got a podcast, but it's on Barstool. He's way more successful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And shredded. We've got some, so we're into June now with our release, right? This is our first June episode. It's June, everyone. We're here in June. It's summertime. Is June the one that goes gloom?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Is it June gloom? They say there's's June gloom yeah, that's a thing I know that's a June gloom April The rest I don't know I want to die. I don't know how universal June gloom is but it's definitely a so Cal phenomenon Yeah, very gloomy that marine layer folks. There's no joke Very gloomy that marine layer folks. No joke Man I just love the weather and all that kind of crazy weather. This is the kind of stuff We talk about on the podcast very interesting one But anyway, I feel like there's some there's some big releases this month am I wrong about that
Starting point is 00:08:21 Tree is the big one, but I feel like there's also like the there's the Sha- the Kingdom Hearts remaster or not remastered Kingdom Hearts is coming to Steam. Yeah, that's right. Which is which is- Steamdom Hearts I'm calling it. Hey! Steamdom Hearts, I love it. Kingdom Steam. That sounds like a really graphic sexual- Yeah, it's like you-
Starting point is 00:08:43 We don't need to figure out what it is. Really graphic sexual yeah We don't need Two weeks You're holding a staff. Kingdom steam. Kingdom steam. Guys? I'm glad we don't have a big fan art community. Yeah, luckily none of our listeners have the gumption. That's actually not true.
Starting point is 00:09:39 A lot of our listeners in the past, it's kind of died off, I'd say. I wonder if these people still listen to the show. There used to be some pretty good fan art, occasionally. And I'd miss seeing it. I don't think you can solicit fan art. I think fan art happens when you have fans, and that's what we don't have. That's the issue.
Starting point is 00:09:59 That's why I'm concerned that they stopped listening. We've got a community, an excellent community on discord.gg slash get played, but we don't have fans. No, no. There's no one who likes the show. No. That's the issue. And none of them are patrons of the arts either. They simply could never.
Starting point is 00:10:16 What? None of them have any artistic merit either. Oh, patrons of the, you mean like, they don't see- Executors of the arts. Yes, they don't seek it out and they don't, they don't make it. Prove me wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I guess, I guess maybe the vibes are strange because we're not hungry. I'm usually starving. At this point. Hey, speak for yourself. Oh, you're super starving. Nah, I actually ate a big lunch. Yeah. I don't feel the hungry vibes. Normally we spend the first like 10 minutes of the... Hungry vibes. Normally we spend the first like 10 minutes of the...
Starting point is 00:10:46 Hungry vibes. What? Like hungry eyes. Yeah. But hungry vibe. I got what he was doing. No, I know... Do you know the song?
Starting point is 00:10:58 I know the song. Are you wondering why I know it? No. I work in a grocery store. Okay, fair. That's the type of shit you hear in a grocery store. Shadow of the Urge Tree comes out on June 21st. So with our calendar, I'm not sure if we certainly would not be able to have a, you know, we do these WePlayYou plays
Starting point is 00:11:20 sometimes for the final episode of each month. That would be, I don't think we'd be able to turn it around for the Monday afterwards, which would be the final, but I think we will talk Shadow of the Eartree at a certain point. Yeah, we'll talk about it sometime in July, I'm sure. Cause I mean, I haven't done this yet, but I kind of want to start a new character.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Wow. It's fun. I can't, no, I'm reuniting with my care reuniting I want to to to walk back into the closet and see my shit armored Beast lady I was hearing that maybe there are cutscenes That are added From the DLC that you might not see if you've beaten certain parts of the game. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:06 By the time you go then to the DLC. I'm not turning away from her. She got me all the way through. She wore the, she sat on the throne. I'm just giving you the information that I have. I'm letting her, I'm letting her live. All these approaches are valid, but it is kind of fun to start a new guy.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I can't wait to see her one eye. She got that one eye. Cause I kind of, I had a sorcerer build before and that didn't always serve me. I kind of want to do like a more of a melee build, more of a store. So you're saying you're willing to commit probably 135 more
Starting point is 00:12:45 hours into Elden Ring in order to be able to see a couple of cut scenes from the DLC? I'll go. I answer your question with another question. What do you think I have going on? OK. OK. Fair.
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Starting point is 00:14:27 What are you playing? Hire me the Resident Evil Merchant. I just want to start with a plug. I started a Twitter account. You can find me at Resident Merch. How you boys doing? Is that real? Is what you said real?
Starting point is 00:14:43 That is real. That is real. Okay, thank you. They actually I should have asked you I shouldn't have asked the merchant because I'm happy to be the liaison. Okay, great. That is that is true. Why do you think anything I talk about isn't real? Everything I talk about has happened to me. That's no that's true. That's your lived experience. I should not be dismissing that.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But anyway, I started a Twitter account. I'm really excited. I didn't know you could do that with a phone. So, so yeah, just follow me at Resident Merch. What are you playing? I'll go first. I do want to say before I say, yeah, please. I just have to mention this.
Starting point is 00:15:29 So it's clear space of my brain. Nick, those are really cool socks. Oh, thanks buddy. Excellent socks. Oh, thanks. Resident Evil merchant. They've got multiple colors. They're sort of a tan color with a multi-colored rings around them.
Starting point is 00:15:43 So there's a yellow, a green, a red. But they also have a logo that implies expensive. Well, I don't know, they're not that expensive. They got a logo. Who puts a logo at like three quarters of the shop? I'd walk to your car with your keys between your fingers. Those socks are coming off, dog. No, these are Stant socks.
Starting point is 00:16:02 They're not like a luxury brand, but they're nice. They're good quality socks. They look, they're nice. They're good quality socks. They're nice color Second and most important they look comfortable. Oh, yeah, they're comfy. And this is not a plug, I just wanted to point it out. They're not a sponsor. They're really good. I've also never I've never seen a clown shoes that classy Well, I happen to be wearing red Adidas. I would not characterize them as clown shoes. Yeah, you fucking clown bitch Nice try you're not gonna trick me that little droopy flower you got there dog. I saw you pull up here in your tiny-ass car
Starting point is 00:16:44 Hold on you grab a handkerchief. No! Um... I'm back on my bullshit. Wow. What does that mean? I'm back on my bullshit, Heather, and I'm glad you asked what that means. I've had a little bit of a... Reunion. Yes!
Starting point is 00:17:02 With... With Resident... Oh, not Resident Evil, with Final Fantasy VII Reunion. Yes! With... With Resident Evil, with Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. You know, Reunion's like the thing that they're always saying, those cloaked guys. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Let me show you despair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Let me Reunion. I think I've made a choice. I haven't fully committed to this yet. If you remember, it's been a few weeks since I talked about it, but previously I've logged about 80 hours in it and I'm not done. And so far up until this point, I've done every side quest that has come up. I think I'm done doing that because it was starting to feel like homework and not fun. And I just want to see the game
Starting point is 00:17:46 Right. I think I need to if I if I don't look across the side quest that seems interesting and I want to do it Perhaps I shall but a lot of the ones that are the same in every region where it's like get this tower You know unlock this thing do this. I Might be out on that but if it's like a story side quest that seems worth my time, I probably will still do it. But for now, I think I'm going to be following the blue quest markers, which are the main quest markers, because I'm in chapter 10, I know I'm at the tail end of chapter 10, I believe there's, well, I won't say how many chapters there are in
Starting point is 00:18:23 case somebody doesn't want to be spoiled, but how many there are. I know how many there are. I need... I think I need to wrap this up because if I'm gonna have time to, yeah, start a new Elden Ring character or at least reacquaint myself with the controls of Elden Ring, I need time to do that. And I also... I have a Final Fantasy 16 DLC that I haven't gotten to yet. One of the two that they've put out. I did one of them. There's another one that's like five hours. I got to get back in there.
Starting point is 00:18:57 You got to get on it. I get what you're saying though, because I had the same thing when I was playing through Mass Effect Legendary Edition. I was playing through those games of just like you reach a certain point and I was like, I got so many side quests to wrap up. I was like, I just need to be done with this fucking thing. I'm just gonna mainline this and you know what? I'm leveled adequately, I'm at a power level where I can get to the end game.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I don't need to complete all these things for completionist's sake. But you're gonna miss moments like, Cloud, how do I get a piece of paper from across town? Can you help me find a piece of paper? Can I tell you the ones that are actually killing me? Yeah. Every area, every region has this like big mushroom tree house that's where the moogles
Starting point is 00:19:39 live and one, the moogles in this game are ugly and I don't like them. Oh, that's fired. I don't like the moogles in Rebirth. And I don't remember if they're in Remake. The ones in 16 are sort of like the ones that I think look the best. Like, that's what Moogles look like to me. Sort of a classic Moogle look.
Starting point is 00:20:03 These look like wet teddy bears Jesus They look like teddy bears with sort of like almost human faces. They look very upsetting to me. I got a picture one Yeah, I don't I don't oh my god the 16 is ideal. They are a little horrific Yeah, the 16 one which is on this side of this frame. I'm showing this this two up We've got a final fantasy 16 moogle, and then've got the rebirth moogle. The rebirth moogle looks like They have human teeth. It looks like the Sonic the Hedgehog original. It does. Sonic draft one from the films Which by the way the other day I was going through and like culling a bunch of photos on my phone and I found so
Starting point is 00:20:42 Many photos of original Sonic from the trailer drop. It is insane that that there's I'm at a spot now in my life where I'm like There's no way that they were gonna go with that. There's no there to me. There's no way I think it was this I'm putting this theory out there first the controversy was manufactured Somebody should leak the actual Sonic movie The one with the teeth. movie the one with the teeth yeah the one with the teeth I'm going to say that the controversy was not manufactured because No one making movies is that smart like the executive decision that you know processes are you right like they're not these fucking
Starting point is 00:21:18 Geniuses and they are dumb enough to change how sonic looks so that's I read this book on Sumner Redstone Who's just a real fucking piece of shit and you know what? died miserable so The good riddance to him anyway, so he was like happen to be if you're not a piece of shit exactly He built he but he built this whole but it was it was he built himself this guilt this gilded cage And he died inside of it. Yeah, anyway It's got all the stuff about all these Hollywood insiders all these Hollywood power brokers And then there's this whole this extended thing unless of Les Moonviz, who was another guy
Starting point is 00:21:48 who got, you know, Me Too being a huge piece of shit. But like, everyone's like, oh, Les Moonviz is like the genius of programming. He's like the wizard of, you know, of network television. He's got, he's got literature completely figured out. And you read all those guys' decisions, like this guy's a fucking idiot. He's just making wrong decisions or repeatedly saying the dumbest shit He has the dumbest logic behind everything just all these guys are fucking dumb and they accidentally occasionally stumble backwards into success That's that's it. There's there's the myth of the like genius power broker executive is a myth
Starting point is 00:22:20 Exactly. It's a it's a fraud You're here. I wish Ari gold was real Is he the guy from entourage? Yeah He says things that are really funny. Yeah, and he yells at Lloyd Lloyd. I know poor Lloyd I was getting the you know the ass end of his his vitriol but so back to Final Fantasies I
Starting point is 00:23:05 Montreal. But so back to Final Fantasy. I feel confident that I could wrap this up before Shadow of the Ur the side quests done. If I want to come back and do the side quests, there's not that much story left to do. I could always go back to this save from this point and then go forward and do the other side quests that I'm maybe going to skip and then experience the story through that, through that, if I want to. But who knows if I ever will. Yeah, it's a little branching point yeah but that also I redownload the Mad Max game because Furiosa fucking ripped it fucking rule and I was surprised to see a couple of characters from the game appear in the movie and I played it a little bit I think we could say at this point Scrot game appear in the movie. And I played it a little bit. I think we could say at this point, Scrotus is in the movie. Scrotus is in the movie, Chum Bucket is in the movie.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And Chum Bucket in the game is like the guy that you go to to like repair your vehicle and like mod your vehicle. And in the movie, he presents Furioso with the vehicle. And I was like, and I knew immediately, I was like and I knew immediately I was like that's I was like just George Miller's insane. I was like that's so funny that he was like I don't like the video I'm putting jump bucket in the movie That's great that's nuts. I love it. I love it. And I didn't finish this game when it came out but I got it and was like and I had never seen a Mad Max
Starting point is 00:24:34 movie but I was like the game seems good. I guess Fury Road had come out around the same time. And I was like I'll check this out and it's a good game It's from 2015 and we're in a you know We're nine years out. Sure That's for games from 2015 Don't necessarily look back didn't Wow that game was for ps4 and whatever, the Xbox One. It looks its age a little bit, which is interesting. This is an early to mid-gen, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yeah. This, by the way, is my theory on why the 16-bit graphics style is so prevalent. Because it tapped out. Like nobody was making sprite-based games after a few releases on like Sega Saturn. Right. You know, like Castlevania, Symphony of the Night,
Starting point is 00:25:32 games like that, Astel? Is that a game? I don't remember. But like there's like an era of games that look a certain way, and then they are suddenly kneecapped by the invention of like 3D graphics and all that shit. But games from 2015 look often more shitty
Starting point is 00:25:56 than games from 1993 because they're going after photorealism and not quite capable of hitting the mark. I saw a tweet today. Heather, by the way, you were right. There is a game called Astol for the Sega Saturn that was a 2D game. My nose is bleeding. This art is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I like this parallel. I saw a tweet today that was, it was quote tweeting another tweet. The tweet that it was quote tweeting. Was it from my account? It was not from your account no I don't know how to quote tweet I haven't done that your phone can do it you learn how to do it all phones can do it good to know but it was
Starting point is 00:26:35 basically it was it was four panels it was four different video games one was horizon forbidden West yes I've seen this tweet hell 2, God of War Ragnarok, and The Last of Us Part 1. And they're like, which of these has better graphics? And then the quote tweet was, this is actually what's killing AAA development because they were focused in on the eye and the eyebrow, like just the corner of somebody's face.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And they all looked, to me, somebody who doesn't really care about the highest graphical fidelity, the attempts at photorealism. Yeah, that type of style. I don't really care about this. They all look the same to me. But people in the comments were arguing about it. Right. And I was just like, what?
Starting point is 00:27:19 This doesn't look better than I mean, they look good. But you know, it also looks good. Kingsglaive, Kingsglaive. look better than I mean they look good but you know it also looks good Kings Glaive Kings Glaive you know it's good you know it's good the Paper Mario remake well how about Animal well I mean that's again then that goes back to what you're saying yeah obviously that we already talked about how that's both a next-gen game and also kind of like this low flat lo-fi retro game it's both at once but like it that that's a look that's achievable by a solo developer, a very talented solo developer, and it looks distinct and it looks beautiful.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I just I never want to hear anyone ever complain that Nintendo isn't up to snuff with graphics, because I think they are doing something right by not trying to be in that space at all. They never play the same game. Yeah. Yeah. One of the highest selling systems of all time. They don't need it. Like at this time, like just when you're like,
Starting point is 00:28:10 oh, console's probably gonna give way to PC or like we'll all be gaming on our phones by this point. The idea that in like, and also with an incredibly long life cycle, that the Switch would be selling so many Switches. Fucking good job, Nintendo. You really came back from the virtual boy. By the way, speaking of which.
Starting point is 00:28:33 They've been in the hole since then. I got real grumpy about a New York Times crossword clue that was a Switch predecessor. And I was like, okay, so this is either a clue about like flipping a light switch, and so it's like dial or like a knob or whatever, or they're saying the Switch. But there weren't enough letters for Wii U
Starting point is 00:28:57 to fit for the clue, right? For this plural clue, it would have to be Wii U's. Fucking answer was Wii's. And I was like, okay, technically that is a predecessor to the Switch, but if you're gonna, like if you're the New York Times- It was Wees plural? Wees plural, Switch predecessors, and it was Wees,
Starting point is 00:29:18 not Wee-you. That sucks. It sucks! Why wouldn't it just be Wee-you? Yeah, Wees- Well, because they wanted, they had to fit the S in there. Yeah, it had to be plural But also like it was Technically wrong. It was yeah, that's wrong That sucks
Starting point is 00:29:36 New York time Unbelievable the stuff they put in this this this but it does speak to how the Wii U has been completely memory whole. Yeah. Like it's just like a generation that does not exist. Yeah. I got like nostalgic for it. I never had it. I was like, should I just, should I get this?
Starting point is 00:29:55 And the answer is no, it's like not worth, it's like not worth having. Yeah. Well, here's why it's worth having. Oh. Cause I have one and it is currently hooked up to my television. Oh.
Starting point is 00:30:04 It allows you to play both we and we you games in HDMI on a flat That is true. You can just regular like play a Wii game like Super Mario Galaxy on your flat screen With an HDMI and the regular Wii controller So if you're ever in like a, man, I wanna play No More Heroes with the original controller mood, you can do it. I wanna play. Oh, that should have gone on my list for today.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Oh well. Well, there was that one Wii game that was like, it was like one of the first ones that was like a, it was like a samurai game. It was like a samurai with like a gun. I know what you're talking about. It's a- Red Blade? Something like that. Something like that, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I know what you're talking about, but that wasn't good. It sounded like I didn't know what I talked about, but then it became kind of clear that I was right. What the fuck was the name of that game? Hold on, Wii launch titles, I'm gonna look this up right now. I just know, I just like, for some reason,
Starting point is 00:31:03 if you ask me what a Wii game is, that's like one of the first ones I think of but why was that your poll? cuz I feel like you can't remember you had to do weird stuff with the With the with the Wiimote that was a launch title right? I think so that's why I know about it, too red blade What what is it? Nick? steel That's pretty good Heather that Better than I was doing.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Red Blade. Red Boyed. Red Blade. I remember thinking it looked cool but I heard it was bad. Oh yeah it did not play well. All those games they were trying to figure out what to do with the Wii remote. You know what you can do with it You know home run. That's about it It's fun though. Hit a home run do Zumba throw it through your TV Bowling work for bowling and work for tennis Wii Sports Wii Sports was great Wii Sports is awesome My mom sent me a photo recently of our family means
Starting point is 00:32:01 Cuz you she but you she pulled out the Wii and was playing Wii sports with my stepdad. And then she was like, look, we're all here still. Oh. It was very sweet. That's cute. Yeah. Who wants to go next? Heather, what are you playing?
Starting point is 00:32:14 Well, I'm here to announce a pretty sad, a bleak day. Oh no. The newest chapter of Fortnite has dropped. It is called Fortnite Rekt. It is heavily Mad Max inspired. They've got a desert biome, they have Mad Max style characters in the battle pass, and the combat has become very car based.
Starting point is 00:32:44 combat has become very car based. This has been met with extreme antagonism from the fan base and I will have to say me personally. Wow. I have, also I believe I read that it is the lowest populated chapter launch in Fortnite's history. In order to play Fortnite right now, you have to get into a car and you have to mod it. You can still play on foot,
Starting point is 00:33:15 but it is an extremely difficult game. I have not seen hardly any replays of other people playing where the end game isn't at least two cars and one person. Wow. Why is this a problem for Fortnite? Well, if you're playing ranked matches and you're playing solo, the only way that you can fire the gun in a car
Starting point is 00:33:40 is if you switch from the driver's seat to the passenger seat and then arm the turret. So you stop driving, switch to the passenger seat and then arm the turret. So you stop driving, switch to the passenger seat, and start firing the turret, right? Yeah. But if somebody else jumps in your car, they can fire the turret nonstop.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And then you and this other passenger are technically both, like you can't get out of the car as the driver because they can mow you down with the gun. They can't get out as the passenger because you can drive over them with the car. So there has become this... Also, if you're playing ranked and you team up with another player, that's a banable offense.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Because ranked is like their professional mode. So you have created a version of the game which is unplayable if you're on foot, but also you cannot team up with other players. And it has been, I think, one of the, like there's no match that I've been in in solos where people aren't teaming up because it just happens.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Also getting into a car is one of the only defenses against being driven at. It sucks, guys. And I was so bummed out by it that I got depressed on Saturday. Like I got depressed because I was like, I've spent the last few seasons of this game, meeting up with friends, meeting up with listeners, playing this foot-based shooting cartoon game.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And that has sort of like suddenly been taken from me and it was the way that I blew off steam and the way that I would like pass like like if I finished a fucking project I finished a script I finished an outline I'd sit down I'd play a couple rounds of fortnight and then be on to the next thing because it would give me that dopamine and adrenaline hit and instead I've been fucking like sitting down playing and being like, okay, is there something I'm not getting? Is there something I don't understand?
Starting point is 00:35:50 And it just flat out fucking sucks. The only time I've had fun is with a full squad of people in uncompetitive mode, unranked mode, because then it's just a social fuck around game. But that hasn't been why or how I've been playing fortnight since I really got into it Wow, so um I Don't I gotta I gotta find a new game to fill that Void in my heart and soul have you considered apex legends? I have considered apex legend
Starting point is 00:36:21 I've also considered call of duty because there's a Gundam collaboration happening. Oh yes, I did hear about this, yeah. But neither of those things is Fortnite. That's not where any of my friends are. Yeah. So yeah, bummed out. It's Jonesy, The Banana, Peter Griffin, Ariana Grande, LeBron James, Eminem, Venom.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Incredible role, man. Ariana Grande LeBron James Eminem Ranch I know you make to producer ranch you like to mess around with for tonight. Have you messed around the new season at all? Honestly, I've been out of town since the new chapter. Oh wow, okay, but I did hop on when I got back and was immediately overwhelmed by all the car shit Wow and there's like a an arena where you're supposed like mod your cars everything was very confusing so I kind of just fell back onto my fallout shelter it's also sucks because fortnight has a racing game they don't need to put cars in this game. Yeah. Like, rocket racing. Rocket racing.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It's just like, we already could race cars if we wanted to race cars. And I don't know, it feels, there's no real effective car counters right now. I know that they're going to bring some into the game in upcoming updates, but I shouldn't have to wait around to be able to blow up a car. And if you're listening to this and you're like,
Starting point is 00:37:51 oh, get good, bitch, well, fine. Say that to our fucking face, dude. I'll beat the shit out of you. So mad at this guy. There really is a whole learning curve to play the game now. It's like, it feels like a different game. And it's like, I don't wanna take the time to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah. That's a really interesting decision on their part. Yeah, like I don't mind it when these updates happen and it's like, okay, all of the mobility has changed. All the weaponry has changed. All the POIs have changed. Like all that stuff is fine. But to like the make core gameplay is now so dependent on driving, it's just weird.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And how long is a season typically? This one goes through the end of August. The whole summer is? Driving. Driving? I feel like they also were leaning really hard on like, oh, Furiosa is gonna make so much money Everybody's gonna be talking about Furiosa everybody's gonna have Mad Max brain. Yeah, and instead it was like it's a
Starting point is 00:38:52 Receptive opening but three podcasters saw it well. I'm also like It's funny to me that the world is shocked that an R rated movie about a desert apocalypse didn't do like Huge numbers at the box office. Yeah, Fury Road was a big hit. Yeah, but it's it's just so it's the Furious is so Weird and I also feel like a lot of people didn't think of Fury Road as part of the Mad Max franchise or that was their introduction the Mad Max franchise It sounds like it was with your with you and so they're just like whatever I saw that one I liked it. I don't need to see another one
Starting point is 00:39:30 everyone Don't see I've done a couple more Hades runs fun. I didn't I Listened to what you guys said and I was like, okay. I'll play a little bit more Hades I'm thinking about going back to God of War Ragnarok. I'm thinking about going back to Final Fantasy Reunion or whatever it's called. Rebirth. Rebirth. But yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna try and fill that Fortnite void. I want you to actually beat Ragnarok so then you can play the Valhalla DLC
Starting point is 00:40:06 Do you could see how they did Hades okay? It's it's it's it's great. Great very very okay? Nick what have you been playing? Heather I've been playing a couple of games that are not gonna fill that void knowing your gaming taste But they're great for me the first one I talked about this at length last week, Paper Mario, the 1000 year door remaster. I won't monologue about this again, but I am playing it. I talked about this before the game came out before the remaster came out. I am playing it on the OLED switch. And it is gorgeous. It's just the power of good art direction
Starting point is 00:40:39 this GameCube game 20 years old. And you know, they've up res all the assets and it just it just looks really, really pretty. And great to be back in rogue port again here that that that theme. I kind of wish it wasn't $60. But you know, that's Nintendo for you, right. But I do wish they could have some of these, you know, this this is-release this game deserves. This is now accessible to this audience, to a new audience and to people who, you know, played it back in the day and want to play it on modern hardware and it looks better
Starting point is 00:41:15 and it's got some quality of life improvements, but also it's not the cost of a full price game but whatever. That's just how these things work, I guess. The other game I've been playing is chance of Senar chant spelled ch Ant s as I feel like everybody talks about this game out loud has to say because it is a weird title to vocalize And I won't bother to spell Senar because that's a made-up word. I think Nar yeah very wrong, but really yeah
Starting point is 00:41:49 It was released in Nick I think you have to spell it CYNALR It does start with an S. It's S E N N A AN-A-A-R. Two N's, two A's. Yeah, it was gonna be my next. I'll give it to you. Points. Points to the Resident Evil Merchant. It was released in September of 2023, but it showed up on...
Starting point is 00:42:17 X! You already got it. You already got the points. You did get it. Oh, I read it. It was released in September of 2023, but it showed up on Game Pass. And so that's how I'm playing it. It was developed by a French based developer,
Starting point is 00:42:31 a French developer RunDisc, which consists of a two person team, Julian Moya and Thomas Penwell. I really, really like this game. It is, so basically what it is, is you're going around this this ancient alien feeling landscape with these humanoid figures everything is very spare and has this art direction that's really distinct and beautiful. You know, it uses
Starting point is 00:42:53 like the simple low poly character models and environments but just like long clean lines of this vibrant palette with a lot of like, you know, yellows and oranges and I'm sure as the game progresses, we get into more color ways. But you're walking around and you're exploring the environment and you're talking to characters and everyone. There is a language you do not understand that you cannot parse. And so what you're trying to do basically is decode a language in real time
Starting point is 00:43:22 based on the commonalities of how it's used in on various signs and in terms of lines of dialogue and so forth. And it's so it's really cool in the sense that it's just it's just a fun way to solve puzzles. So just like I have these little bits of information, whatever it's the kind of thing you would do like in a workbook as a kid in a collection of puzzles when you're when you're killing time before the era of phones of smartphones but like it implemented in this way in this game it feels like you're discovering this larger world and also there's an awesome moment when it first expands and you
Starting point is 00:43:56 realize you're not just decoding one language but you're decoding a number of languages and the characters are interacting who don't speak the same language and so that's like another and they've all got like different character sets that have like different aesthetics that you know fit their fictional you know a Civilization and all that shit is really great and really well thought out and really well realized there is Stealth in this game was I was shocked by I was like this does not feel like what? fundamentally point-and-click adventure to have this element feels pretty out of left field, but it works.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And I think the overall concept is just so strong that it's a really, really cool kind of puzzle-based design. One thing I will say is- How did you hear about this? I've heard about this. I think I ended up on some people's best of lists in 2023 and then the resurfacing on game pass I was like, you know
Starting point is 00:44:49 I feel like you kind of try to find out people who have tastes similar to yours and maybe for our listeners That's one of the three of us and I've heard some of those people talk about yeah chance of Senar I feel like I've heard it. I think it maybe Jason Schreier mentioned it I definitely talked about on triple click and yeah that's someone I look to but I it's it's a it the one thing I will say is that it controls really well with a gamepad and it's interesting to me how the fault control scheme for basically everything now even on PC when I'm playing it feels like I'm just it's shifted so heavily towards gamepads that's where I'm using it for
Starting point is 00:45:22 every for everything I guess it's because maybe you think everything's designed to be multi-platform now, but... I do think it's great that games like this that are made just for you come out. Yeah. That is, it's great because like Pentament is like a similar one that I like. That's like a hundred percent a Waggur game. The, what was the, Case of the Golden Idol? Yeah. I was glad that there's like a genre That's like just for you whole bunch of reading
Starting point is 00:45:50 You're the guy at school that's like a teacher you forgot to sign us homework What a worksheet designed as a video game I want an assignment but looking at the I was pulling it up on my phone and The art direction is very nice Yeah, it's really worse. It looks like is that Mobius is that the guy? Morbius Morbius That's who you thinking of like a Morbius Mobius strip, I'm gonna tell you right now. You're asking the wrong guys No, I don't know. I know was Mobius. The Mobius Strip? I'm gonna tell you right now, you're asking the wrong guys. No, I know what a Mobius- Red Blade.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I know a Mobius Strip, but the, I don't know the work, I just know the term, the Mobius Strip, and I know what it is, but I don't know the artist behind it. I'm blanking on the name and I thought, maybe it's adjacent, who knows, whatever. There's somebody who's listening right now who's yelling it, because I think I'm close enough. Oh yes, there is a Mobius who's an artist.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Is that the same guy as behind the Mobius strip? Ah, okay great. Yeah. So it looks like- John Geroad. It looks like Mobius. Yeah, it kind of does have that sort of look. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:46:58 I did it. Which is the, again, these like lots of like thin lines and- Wow, really good. Yeah. Thank you. I did it. Yeah, it's a little more sparse than this But it does kind of feel alien in the same sort of way It sounds cool. I mean I I don't have game pass currently But I've been thinking about Reupping my subscription and maybe I would check maybe I check that out seems like it could be kind of cool
Starting point is 00:47:24 I fully disconnected my Xbox and put it on a shelf You know what I ended up lending my Xbox to a friend my I have an Xbox Series X yeah, which is a nice piece of hardware But I was not using it at all and I had friend who's like like I am we could forget a video game system I was like borrow mine. Yeah, you know don't miss it at all I did a nice piece of hardware, but I got my PlayStation. I get a gaming PC is the main thing I'm no reason for next button. This is the exact I mean we don't have time to talk about Xbox completely fumbling their entire
Starting point is 00:48:00 Ecosystem but the fact that there are there is PC game pass and a lot of those games that come on peace on Xbox game pass are just ready to go on on PC game pass as well. It's like their hardware doesn't their hardware doesn't matter They're selling a platform. They're selling a subscription service Yeah, which I think probably over the long term will be less lucrative than selling hardware, but I don't know I don't fucking know I don't know. Hey, I'm not I'm not I'm not a CEO. Yeah, they you know they've run the numbers They figured it out. Yeah, I realize they ran the numbers I Wasn't sure that they had done that or not
Starting point is 00:48:36 They have a history of doing this though of just like they have like a foothold and then the next gen they just completely Blow it like that 360 was like such like a triumph real You know and and then the Xbox one never was like what are you doing? What the fuck is this thing? Remember it came with connect. Yeah, remember it came with connect was the Xbox 360 no the Xbox The original Xbox was the PlayStation 2's contemporary Yes, I was never jealous of the PlayStation of the Xbox because I had PlayStation 2 yeah but come I had PlayStation 2 for way long I got it my first ps3 was the ps3 slim which was about halfway through its lifecycle yeah and then even then I was like I
Starting point is 00:49:17 don't really care about the I don't really care about the 360 there's something very Coke Pepsi about comparing the PlayStation main line, you know, a home console naming conventions versus the Xbox line of equivalent of just like PlayStation, PlayStation two, PlayStation three, PlayStation four, PlayStation five, Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox one, Xbox. Then we were at the Xbox. They did one X one X. And then we have the Xbox Series S and the Xbox Series X. It's like so hard to track what generation you're in.
Starting point is 00:49:52 They are dropping the new Call of Duty Black Ops 6 Day 1 on Game Pass and Colin Powell and Bill Glendon are in it. And I'm like, I am going to play this. That'll be the first Call of Duty that I start playing from start to finish. Hop on board, Colin, I got my own plane. My friend Jeffrey's driving. Thank the plane, thank the pilot when you jump out. I had heard a rumor that this Call of Duty
Starting point is 00:50:20 features 9-11 as a playable level. Jesus Christ. What does that mean, that you get to do it? I mean, I don't know. I don't think that you get to do it. That would be... There's no fucking... We're not that far away.
Starting point is 00:50:36 No, no. But I... Because Saddam Hussein is apparently in the game. Yes, I heard about this as well. And the same place where I read that said that 9-11 was a level. I heard about this as well, but I'd and and the same place where I read that Said that 9-eleven was a level so you get Colin Powell Gonna is like the guy who like fraudulently led us into a war of opportunity with yeah under the false pretenses There was a in some way connected to 9-eleven and had weapons of mass destruction
Starting point is 00:51:06 That's fucking awful, yeah, I can't wait to play it. Hey, let's get into this week's topic. Okay. We're talking, I mean, Heather, do you want to tee this one up? Well, I was talking about things that I wanted us to talk about. Yeah. And you pitched an excellent name for this segment, or segment, this kind of an episode. And so I want to use that name. Wait, yeah, you liked my name?
Starting point is 00:51:43 I thought we liked your name. What? Didn't we like Heather's name? We could say both names. We could say both names. I have to point something out. Yeah. To, this is another one of these things that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:51:54 if I don't say this, I'm gonna be distracted. Both of your shoes basically make Sonic. That's true. Heather has blue shoes and I have red shoes. But Heather's is like blue and white shoes. And Nick has red. Nick has red. Might just be Sonic shoes.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Yeah. And then the rest of Sonic's body could come from. My shoes are a Japanese release of Patrick sneakers and they are Gundam sneakers. So they have the logo on the outside. They're very cool. Yeah. and they are Gundam sneakers. So they have the logo on the outside. They're very cool. Yeah, so for me, looking at Nick's shoes, I saw his shoes as char shoes,
Starting point is 00:52:31 and my shoes as Gundam shoes. I'm wearing Crocs, and this is just, I just wanna point this out for what it's like for the listener, how we record. I pointed out two things that are on the ground because I'm avoiding eye contact with everyone. So the segment or the idea behind the episode is, the way I pitched it was games that time forgot. Games that time forgot.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Which Nick was like, I think it should be called rise from your grave. Yeah, I did have the pitch that we do like the altered beast thing, rise from your grave. And honestly have the picture. We do like the Altered Beast thing. And honestly, I like maybe it's both of the things. Maybe it's games the time for God rise from your grave. Yeah. Or stay buried.
Starting point is 00:53:16 What? Wait, so there's like an option. The game can either rise from its grave or it stays buried okay well maybe we don't need to do that I know I stay in hell stay in hell it's just an opportunity for us to talk about games that meant something to us that maybe have not become long-term franchise IP. Like that maybe we're one-offs or maybe we're two-offs. And then they kind of disappear.
Starting point is 00:53:53 They're not in the public consciousness anymore. And I know that we've been gaming for a long time, so I wanted to be able to talk about these older games. No, I love it. And I'm excited to hear what everyone has, and I'm excited to hear what everyone has and I'm excited to share what I got on my side. It's like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:54:09 guys, come get food. Yeah, it's so compressed and distorted. It sounds like shit. I saw a YouTube video just last night. There was a Nintendo like data leak like a couple years ago or something and people have just been going through some of these files and one of the things in the leak was uncompressed Nintendo 64 Star Fox voice recordings. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I'll have to find incentives because it was very weird to hear cocky little freak as clear as day. It was very strange. Do a barrel roll. Yeah. But it sounds like Charlton Heston. This guy's just like, I think he's asshole. But I just had to, I saw that last night on YouTube. That's cool. I love YouTube. I do, I do love it too.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I love that Galaxy Star Cruiser video. I have to watch it. I haven't seen it yet. I know it's four hours long. Fantastic. Best picture 2024. I watched all four hours. I pitched it to my wife.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I was like, there's this video everybody's watching, but I don't think you want to watch it, but everybody's talking about it. So I thought I'd talk to you about it and see if you want to watch it. And I tell her about it and I'm like, it's four hours long. And she's like, how many views does it have? I'm like, it's four hours long. And she's like, how many views does it have? I'm like, it's like 4 million in four days
Starting point is 00:55:28 when I told her about it. And she was like, I guess I'll give it a shot. And so we sat down on the couch, turned it on, and watched two hours of it. And I was like, I can't believe, she's like, I can't believe we're doing this. And it was so entertaining. Yeah, it's riveting.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah. Denny Nicholson, it's riveting. Yeah, Denny Nicholson. Yeah, it's great work Yeah, I will watch it. I I'm excited to see it as somebody who loves Theme park yeah theme parks disasters. Yeah, I love all of it. I guess I could kick us off. Oh, please so, um, I Don't know if I've talked about this game So, um, I don't know if I've talked about this game here on the show before, but there was a puzzle game that came out on sort of PS3, and not puzzle like, like solve a puzzle, puzzle like Tetris.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Got it. Okay. Because I was ready. I was no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, doing. No, no, no, no, it's never gonna happen. Never gonna happen. But this was like a digital release PS3 game
Starting point is 00:56:29 called Trash Panic. And imagine Tetris, right? Yeah. You've got your sort of cylinder on screen where parts are falling, pieces are falling from the ceiling. Right. Trash Panic was a physics-based puzzle game
Starting point is 00:56:49 where you had to try and take these randomly assorted pieces of garbage and put them into the trash in such a way that it wouldn't overflow. But the pieces, again, had physics. So when you would smash them into the bottom of the screen, like dropping a Tetris puzzle piece, it would sometimes break shit underneath it and compress those lines.
Starting point is 00:57:20 But not in a way of like, if you fit if you fit puzzle pieces together Then they'll clear right like if I'm piling a bunch of wood on one side of the screen And then I get a refrigerator comes up if I drop the refrigerator on the on the wood It'll crush all the wood winter the wood yeah, right So you like would save heavier items for for later in the game It also had a mechanic where you could set the trash on fire. But if you set the trash on fire and you burnt too much, it would ruin, like the world would fill with carbon
Starting point is 00:57:57 and smoke and you couldn't play the rest of the level. This game was my like full blown addiction for like three months. Wow. I loved Trash Panic so much. Did you pull up images of it? I did, yeah. It's somewhere in between combat and puzzle
Starting point is 00:58:18 because you were smashing shit at other shit, but you also were trying to use your brain just enough to be like, okay tires, yeah, that's the Wow, so like tires would if they burned would release more Soot so you'd be like I can't burn right now because there's too many tires in my trash can In the image that I'm looking at right here the thing that you're about to put in The trash is a playground slide Also, we would scale up like it would start with like, you know, you'd be playing like dropping toilet paper rolls and like
Starting point is 00:59:01 Desks would be the biggest thing. Yeah? But then later you would be in a, like your screen would be a trash container the size of a street and you'd be like dropping cars and playground slides and like refrigerators and like parts of buildings. It was very, very unique. Like there hasn't been anything like it afterwards and it didn't become a franchise
Starting point is 00:59:26 and I think it's locked on PS3. Like I don't know that it was released anywhere else. I didn't do my research ahead of time, so I didn't look it up. But it also had a pretty catchy soundtrack. It's one of those games that like, I feel like it's almost like an arcade game when you're a child that you tell people about
Starting point is 00:59:46 by the time you get your friends to the arcade, the machine is gone. And then you're like, I swear there was a game where you dug a, you dig, it's a dig dug. Right. But nobody believes you. in line with your taste as the number one Garbador stan? I'm going to read a little bit from the Wikipedia here. Trash Panic is a puzzle video game for the PlayStation 3 developed by the Japan studio of Sony Interactive Entertainment and directed by Taro Matsuda.
Starting point is 01:00:26 It was released in 2009 on the PlayStation Network download service and has been compared to EA's Tetris on the PS3. The object of the game is to compact items of garbage, not remove rows of blocks. So yeah, it's locked on the PS3. Like it never came out anywhere else. to remove rows of blocks. So yeah, it's locked on the PS3. Like it never came out anywhere else. And that's it.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Like a stream of, from Wikipedia, a stream of garbage is carried via conveyor belt towards a garbage can in the middle of the street. And the object of the game is to break down the garbage by strategically placing it into the can based on the items available before it fills to overflowing. If three pieces of undamaged garbage fall out of the trash can the game will end. That was another funny part of the game.
Starting point is 01:01:13 So like, let's say you're like trying to like put like paper towel rolls at the top of your garbage can and the music's getting tense and that you can't burn anymore because there's gonna be too much fire. Like, a paper towel roll falls out of the trash can. The whole game would go into slow motion and push in on the paper towel roll. It hits the ground, and then, like, pull back out
Starting point is 01:01:37 to, like, continue the antics. Wow. I wonder if I could still download it on PS3. Maybe. I don't know know it'd be interesting to Look up my go through trouble hooking up my ps3 I actually don't think the store is active anymore. Probably not That sounds awesome it was a shout out it was super fun game. So my first game that time forgot please rise from your grave
Starting point is 01:02:08 Is trash panic. I love that Matt how about you? Mine is I feel like mine's not as mine's not as obscure as that. Well, I don't need to out obscure Games that are personally meaningful. Yeah, I had so much fun that summer playing fucking trash panic This is a game that I I really really liked I don't even I don't even know that I finished it but I own it on PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Switch and this was a game that I was like this is for some reason When I got that game This I was like this is the this is, this is a game for grown-ups.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And I think I was an adult when I bought it. But I was like, this is not your regular kind of game. This is a little more adult. Rockstar Games is LA Noir. Oh yeah. Of course. I was kind of like, they're gonna make a bunch of these. Fuck, I forgot about LA Noir.
Starting point is 01:03:13 They'll do Chicago Noir, they'll do New York Noir. They'll just do a bunch of this. Because this is good shit. You play as the guy from Mad Men. I can't remember the actor's name, but I remember a very specific line that he said on Mad Men to pick up a woman. He just goes, Ken Cosgrove accounts, and then they leave. His name is Ken Cosgrove on the show. Very good, very funny character, very good actor. He's the star of this game and you're a detective.
Starting point is 01:03:47 And there's like a really, I know people make fun of this because it wasn't perfect, but I think they were really onto something with the interrogation system in that game. Yeah, it was cool. Even though it was a little janky and abrupt at times. Because the performances are all performance captured, so you have to really, really lock in on the
Starting point is 01:04:08 characters' faces when you're interrogating them to see if they have a tick of some kind. Sometimes you can't really tell, so you guess a lot. You could either fail or get lucky that you did it. But I liked the setting. I love LA, baby. Yeah. I love LA, I love driving around. And that's the thing, like the things in that game that work are all the stuff that like Rockstar just does well already, like traversal and making cities feel alive and things like that. But like their new angle was you're solving crimes.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Yeah. And some of them were very, very grisly. And this is around the time too, I feel like true crime type stuff was becoming very popular. Yeah In it like just in the zeitgeist and I don't know I was for some reason was like They'll probably make one of these Every five years will have a new noir game in this and they're this one like another one of their games bully has just kind of fallen off of their off of their own radar because right after this, this game came out between Grand Theft Auto IV, Grand Theft Auto V. Grand Theft Auto V was before Red Dead Redemption 2, I think.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Yes. But like once then Grand Theft Auto online becomes a thing, there's no way that they'll ever make anything else until Grand Theft Auto 6. I'd be surprised if we ever got a Red Dead 3, for example. But there's no way in hell we're ever getting a new noir game, because I don't think it was I don't think it's sold gangbusters either. But I felt like it was like pretty pretty critically well received For what it is. I know that some of its janky It's probably like a solid B of a game if if I'm being honest, but I really I really enjoyed it
Starting point is 01:05:56 I liked walking around and driving In you know those old cars and also there there aren't a lot of like I feel like there aren't a lot of period games specific to that era, even though it's something that's explored a lot in like film and television. It's like there aren't a lot. I guess that the, I never really played the mafia series, but the mafia games were also period games, right?
Starting point is 01:06:18 They're same sort of era. Yeah, same. Not recently, like in the last year and a half, had played a little bit of Mafia Definitive Edition And it did sort of scratch that itch. I was like, oh, this is like yeah, like 20s 30s era I was like, this is pretty cool But I would like I don't know. I would like to see a little more. I
Starting point is 01:06:39 Like I like being a detective. It's pretty it's pretty fun I like it and I like detective stories So it was cool that there was a game that you get to do that. The two things I remember about L.A. Noire are, one, the cars were hard to drive, which I found really satisfying. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Because cars from that era are hard to drive. Sure. Like it shouldn't be like cornering like a fucking 2024 sports car. It should feel awful to drive that car. The other thing is that even though it was not a one-to-one Los Angeles accurate map, there were neighborhoods that were basically kind of the same. And at the time that that game came out,
Starting point is 01:07:25 I was living up in Hollywood, and I knew my house was super old. And I drove to basically that block, and I was like, that's basically my house. Wow. That's basically my actual house. There's a, I mean, they do that so well in those games. There's a corner in, I mean, there's a lot of LA represented
Starting point is 01:07:50 in Grand Theft Auto V, but there's a corner right by where I live that is in Grand Theft Auto V that I've seen people make TikToks that don't live here that are like, that's the corner from Grand Theft Auto V. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. That's where I live. That don't live here that are like that's the corner from grant That's that's that's where I live the gates from the it's from real life in the game copied it But my my first entry for this is a is the LA noir franchise Even if they just like did it a couple would have imagined LA noir like Even if they just like did it a couple what if imagine LA Noire like 1970 that'd be tight as hell I mean, oh, that's an interesting way to do it. Yeah in different time periods. Yeah
Starting point is 01:08:31 You can do different cities different time periods. I'm I would love to see another one You could do the era of serial killers. Yes, like like classic 70s Oh, it's a zodiac fucking police story and like have dudes in like 1970s cars fucking trying to like solve crimes. That would be great. Yes, really really good So why aren't there any games set in like the Mad Men era like why aren't there? 1950s games cuz they didn't have them then I guess so they didn't have them so they can't be in it Yeah, I agree. I think I yeah, I'm trying to think of like it'd probably be hard to sell a game Yeah, I agree. I think, yeah, I'm trying to think of like,
Starting point is 01:09:02 it'd probably be hard to sell a game. But I just, I think probably the, when Mad Max was at its apex of relevance, you maybe could have sold something. Mad Men. Probably would be hard, did I say Mad Max? Yeah. Everyone's too mad, calm down.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Go off, game. I think it's just, it's like people, publishers would be like reticent to be commit all the resources to a triple-a game That's like yeah, who's oh they they want science fiction and fantasy. That's what kids want. They still think of these things as toys And after after saying that I thought it was like a game for adults what I mean is I enjoyed the game But I don't think it's fun. It is not. No, make no mistake. I think it is a good game. It's not a fun video game, but it is like because like also some of the crimes
Starting point is 01:09:54 are like very intense. Yeah. You're always like, Jesus Christ. And then you're like, oh, that was like, I guess I did. I am in a new area or like I did a new thing. I'm becoming a better detective But I like to revisit it and which I can it was on everything I don't think the switchboard is that good, but I got it for like $18 or so okay my memory is there would be things like so like you'd be interrogating someone they'd be like like yeah
Starting point is 01:10:22 I've lived in this old house for 20 years. you can be like you son of a bitch you're lying I did punch my wife the developer team bondi I looked this up they're Australian based and they down under they fold they were down under but unfortunately they went under they folded they folded after one game apparently part of it was that the they were shitty bosses and the workers were up there. Hey you know what workers rise up fuck that yeah more like LAR NAR I got one I'm gonna go way back in the way back machine to 1984. Holy cow. Back before-
Starting point is 01:11:05 Go off George Orwell. You're in your thought police bag. Not that kind of 1984. Won't be using any new speak here. No, I'll be using the King's English to talk about Raid on Bungling Bay. This was a top down helicopter shmup that was released in the Commodore 64 and was published by Broderbund.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Where's it Broderbund? How do you say that? I don't know how to say it aloud. Anyway, it was later ported to the Famicom and the NES, but apparently it was really successful in Japan on the Famicom and sold more than the Commodore 64 version. But the Commodore 64 version is what I knew and this game is notable for me personally, because it is the first video game I ever remember playing. Whoa. As a little boy. Holy cow. And also, I would learn this later,
Starting point is 01:11:54 it was Will Wright's first game design. Will Wright made this game. Wow. And then it would inspire him to make SimCity, and I'll talk about why. So it's got this helicopter that you move around and it's kind of free roaming. The animation is really simple, but it's pretty damn good for an eight bit computer that was less powerful
Starting point is 01:12:13 than the original NES. And like I talked about the free roaming, it is not a continuous scrolling shmup in the sense that like you're always moving vertically or horizontally. You have a whole map that you can like just sort of move around and choose where you're going to go. And what you're doing is you are as this helicopter, you're taken off from an aircraft carrier and you're bombing targets on the ground.
Starting point is 01:12:34 As part of the war effort. Apparently, it's like an there's an it's an alien civilization I never picked up on it. I had never had any sense. It looks like you're just on Earth. But I I guess it I guess it's an alien planet, and you're trying to blow them up so that they don't invade Earth. That's the story or whatever. I never knew any of this as a kid. Anyway, as you progress, the enemy will get a more powerful arsenal, and you're all on the same map, but they'll start having jets and attacking more aggressively. And so there's some strategy. Again, this is stuff I did not pick up on as a child, but I'd
Starting point is 01:13:06 learn of later, but like in the order in which you destroyed buildings would affect things. So like, a big part of is like you're taking out infrastructure. So you can destroy like a missile battery to take out the weapons that are directly attacking you. But you also go after a factory that is like kind of that the that there that is producing units. And so and so that will like you know kind of overall slow things down and give you more time to accomplish your mission. So you had those sorts of strategic considerations and apparently has different endings as well, which I also never saw. But it was just like a really cool and you know, very simple game because of the era, but like had some like,
Starting point is 01:13:45 some real design consideration behind it. And then as far as the SimCity side of it goes, where it ultimately leads there, this is from Damiano Gurley, I apologize, I don't know how to pronounce their name, on their blog, Genesis Temple, I'll read a little bit of this. Will Wright developed two tools to make the game.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Chedid, a character editor, and Wedd-It, a world building editor, that let one use the characters from the other. It was Wedd-It that eventually evolved into SimCity when Wright started researching urban planning. Thanks to Arrayn Unbundling Bay's good sales, he had enough economic independence to start working on such a daunting project. So again, it's like this way back in the 80s, but it's like a solo dev builds his own thing.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It's like, all right, hey, now I can make this other game. Wright reportedly had more fun designing the buildings in the Bay and the various ways in which the industries are connected rather than the shoot them up part. And it's also worth noting that the original C64 version of SimCity graphically looks pretty close to Raid Unboggling Bay, which is true. If you look at the original PC SimCity,
Starting point is 01:14:42 it looks like a map from the game. I actually should just bring up a still for you. But it was, yeah, it's a game that I think about. You know, a game my dad showed me, a game that made me be like, I like video games. And then it's also a game that I feel like has kind of disappeared from the collective consciousness, except for the little bit of trivia
Starting point is 01:15:02 that it was Will Wright's first game. That's right on Buggling Bay. I love this. I just want to say this is great. I'm enjoying this. I'm enjoying listening to these things. I'm enjoying, in Matt's case, remembering the game, in your case, hearing about this game.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Like, this is fun. This is fun. I liked hearing about yours, Heather. Thank you very much. I like hearing about that too. Are you gonna show gonna show us? I'm trying to bring a decent image Yeah, the problem is they're so low res because it was like a 320 by 200 screen So it's like you know we can kind of get a sense of it there. There's a little helicopter There's like a factory you can blow up
Starting point is 01:15:39 But yeah, it does like the grid sort of grid based design and like kind of yeah You know not crude for its era, but crude by modern standards like the grid sort of grid based design and like kind of the, you know, not crude for its era, but crude by modern standards, you know, sort of, all the streets and roads are connecting, it ends up kind of looks like a proto SimCity. That's really cool. It is interesting to see something like that, because yeah, it looks crude, but for the time,
Starting point is 01:16:00 that was probably like pretty mind blowing. Yeah. There's even that perspective. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, wow. SimCity has fallen off, hasn't it? That's not on my list, but I feel like the last SimCity game was on iPad
Starting point is 01:16:14 and it was not a SimCity game. Yeah, I think they, as EA's want to do, they kind of just nuked one, nuked a franchise they acquired. And then people got really into Cities Skyline. And then, but I understand Cities Skyline 2 has now started doing some of the stuff that SimCity was doing, and then that's pissing off their fans. So it's like, whatever, circle of life.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Wow. Yeah, do we, we got some more? Yeah, I was going to say, speaking of EA. Whoa! They are behind the publication of the game I'm gonna bring up next, which I ragged on racing games inside of my combat game, but that doesn't mean I don't like racing.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And in fact, some of my favorite video games of all time have been racing games, including the Burnout series. Now Burnout was developed by Criterion Games and published initially by Acclaim and then by EA. And there was a run of Burnout games in the early 2000s. I'm talking Burnout, Burnout 2 Point of Impact, Burnout 3 Takedown, Burnout Revenge, Burnout Legends, Burnout Dominator and Burn burnout paradise, where like all
Starting point is 01:17:27 of those games are published in between 2001 and 2008. That is an enormous amount of burnout games. My favorite burnout game is burnout three, I believe. Yeah, that's the one I remember, which, which was a racing game where if you wrecked an opponent's car, they could fly off the guard rails into the horizon and gameplay would slow down for just a moment while you watched them wreck and then you would fly back into your car and keep racing.
Starting point is 01:17:59 There was also an additional mode that was the most fun where you would see an intersection with like traffic, like a semi, a couple of cars, maybe a gas station. And your job was to do the most amount of financial damage to this intersection by racing a race car into that intersection. And then once you had collided with enough cars and caused enough chaos, then you could detonate your car, blowing it up and like exploding the gas tanks
Starting point is 01:18:33 of nearby cars to further wreck cars. This was like, at the time, it was graphically super impressive because often in a racing game, there were two states of a car. There was racing the car or it is gone. Like, it's exploded. Like, if you're playing a game like,
Starting point is 01:18:58 what's the one that's got those really good beach vibes? The Sega game. Not Cruis'n. Daytona. Daytona. I Daytona Daytona Daytona works Sega rally Sega rally this this game that looks like a sprite based game that I pull position no sure pull position all these games are basically like if you go off the road your car just explode yes Yes. Techno cop. Techno cop. What? Why did we? Why is Thunder
Starting point is 01:19:40 Burnout is available on Nintendo Switch, it's available on Xbox One, it's available on PlayStation 4, the only game that's been released in the modern era is 2018's Burnout Paradise Remastered. So this is essentially a dead IP. And it's a real shame because racing games have an excellent like racing online is super fun I don't know how burnout
Starting point is 01:20:12 Specifically would work with the like slowdown mechanic if you're racing against online opponents but being able to race cars that can be completely wrecked or Setting up these like, Rube Goldberg machine explosions, like all of that could live in a higher graphic fidelity era, like PlayStation 5 or the, what's it called again? Xbox One S? Series X and S, I think we're on now?
Starting point is 01:20:42 Series S, Series S. Series X. Could sign that we're on now. Series S, Series S. Series X. Good sign that we don't know this. Good sign for Microsoft. It also had a fun soundtrack. Like the Burnout games were, they were a good fucking time. But I feel like people don't think about nor talk about the Burnout games anymore.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I know the series is certainly, I haven't thought about it in a while, but the series is certainly fondly, and I remember that Burnout 3 being a big deal. I wonder if it's a thing, because I know this has happened with other racing games, I haven't done any investigation on this one, but since the thing that happens now
Starting point is 01:21:22 is they put these things online and then you're buying a bunch of downloadable cars, right? Like and that's how they're monetizing these things. I know that some automakers are skittish about licensing their vehicles if they're going to be destroyed. Yes. You know, so I wonder if that could be part of it. Well, that maybe that is a part of it, but I don't remember the burnout games featuring realistic cars Yeah, but I more mean that like that but they is part of the calculation of why again cuz everything sucks
Starting point is 01:21:51 But like why why we're not making this game is like is like well We want it to be a live service game where people can buy more vehicles And how are they gonna buy more vehicles if we can't sell them a McLaren, you know or a Ferrari that does suck That depresses me just to think about it. I don't know if that's what happens, but I just know that that's probably the... That's kind of calculus against me. Nick just diagnosed the problem and it sounds like it's... We're in hell. That's what it is. I see this type of TikTok a lot and I don't know if... I feel like this is going to be one of those
Starting point is 01:22:19 things where I'm going to describe what this is. I feel like when anyone ever describes what their algorithm shows them, it kind of tells, it's like very personal. Okay. I see this type of TikTok a lot where- Let me guess, can I guess? You're walking down the street of Pompeii and they're like, the Pompeii villas often featured mosaics in their lobby.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Let's look at one now. And it's just like five minutes of like lengthy shots of a Pompeii mosaic. Did I tell you this already? All right, great. It's from a video game. I don't know what video game it is or it's video game graphics at least.
Starting point is 01:22:58 It's usually like a ramp and like a wall, a tall wall. And they're like, let's see what car I've seen this. Can get over the wall. And it'll be- Is it Trackmania or something maybe? It may be like that. I've seen those.
Starting point is 01:23:10 They do different types of cars. Some cars make it, some cars don't. And then it tells you the percentage of your chance of survival. I've seen these exact, we have an overlap in our algorithm right there. God. Cause I watched this and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:23:28 there's something spicy going on in my brain about this. There's something with this. Have you seen the ones where it's like, a car is like in traffic behind a semi and another semi crashes into it and it's like, what are your chances of survival? I see crash ones as well. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:46 But I think it's a video game. Yes. Yes. Yes. But I bring it up because I'm always, I am, it'll stop me in my tracks. I will just see what car is going to survive. But I can see, you know, in the case of burnout, if certain car companies are like, I don't want you crashing my cars and the damn thing, it would be bad.
Starting point is 01:24:04 But they can't stop people making make content. No they can't Yes, okay, so Speaking of EA ooh Wow in a row Yeah used to do it yeah, yeah, yeah used to be a mark game It used to be a mark of like not necessarily a mark of quality But you kind of felt like they were like I don't know they were the big dogs at one point like they were making stuff And like that you were excited about yeah at least EA
Starting point is 01:24:35 Had it had an offshoot had a had a different studio as well called EA sports big oh called EA Sports. Big. Oh, big, yeah. My thing is actually not a game. I want them to bring back EA Sports big. This is the SSX franchise. SSX in particular is the one that I want to bring back, but they had NFL Blitz.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Right, or not NFL Street. NFL Street, they had NBA Street. They had all these great action sports games Yeah In particular SSX, which is the one I will highlight SSX I mean there were a lot of snowboarding games that are very similar to SSX I think 1080 on the all every snowboarding game that I think is worth a damn is basically you start at a All every snowboarding game that I think is worth a damn is basically you start at a At the top of a slope and you snowboard down a long slope. That's it Well, I think that's conceptually all this that's how the sport works, too
Starting point is 01:25:33 But I guess they're not yeah, I guess you can't really go further than that right you have to do it that way It's not like Tony Hawk where you can go around a school you're unless there was like a snowy school I wouldn't here's the thing if they made a game like that. I wouldn't ask that many questions I wouldn't be like this doesn't make any sense Still also be on a slope to get some momentum going yeah, I guess so yeah You need to be on a slope so that you start up and you end down. Yeah, that's how the game goes They're all basically like this. They're all different degrees of fun some of them are more Simmy than I guess not simmy, they're all pretty,
Starting point is 01:26:08 I don't know, action sportsy, but they're not as cartoony as SSX got. They're more arcade, they're not, they're like an arcade experience. Yes. SSX started off as fun, but kind of normal. Then the second game in the franchise, SSX Tricky tricky they were like we licensed. It's tricky by run DMC
Starting point is 01:26:30 You're going to hear this on a loop in every single level of this game And we have voice actors Some people that you know David Arquette being one of them and you can do the worm on your snowboard We used to have it all. We used to, we used to, we really lost something in when they stopped making games like this. Because in SSX 3 is fun, is good, is a little less cartoony than SSX Tricky, has more of a soundtrack, like a Tony Hawk's Pro Skater soundtrack type of thing. And then I think they just lost the plot completely.
Starting point is 01:27:12 And now nobody's making these snowboarding games. Well, we've also talked, both of us have talked fondly about the NBA Street franchise. And that's one that's completely disappeared. But those games were really fun. NBA Street, NBA Street, Volume 2 it was just called, right? Yes, and they did, I think a volume 3 as well and I didn't mess around with volume 3 but the thing about these games is yeah it's
Starting point is 01:27:31 sure it's fun to play mad and it's probably fun to play NBA 2k NBA 2k the basketball portion not the managing your career portion but if there was a managing your career mode in NBA Street, I would think it'd be kind of funny. It'd be kind of fun. Yeah, my Yeti snowman having to go to a Beats by Dre party. Yeah, your entire team of shacks. Yeah. Your team of three shacks.
Starting point is 01:27:59 That's my favorite thing about when you get it, you'd be able to level up in that game is that you could increase your height. Like that's the thing that happens in a career. It oh, yeah, I can't was six foot five and now he's seven foot eight Not a single dunk all year but I liked I liked those games and I liked the Arcade energy that they brought in into sports because I'm not like a huge sports guy I'll sit down and I'll watch us, you know I like baseball but they never really they never really cracked it with baseball with this because I think baseball is like too
Starting point is 01:28:33 There's very too much going on Yeah, I know some people like was it super mega baseball? I've never messed around. Yes Yeah, but I don't know how it plays first hand, but I want them to I think We should Rise from your grave EA Sports big SSX was a ps2 launch title right? Yeah, that's right SSX very good I'm surprised that they didn't even because I think SSX Was SSX 3 I think on PS 3 I think it was
Starting point is 01:29:08 For both PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 because I believe it sort of did push It pushed the PS 2 quite a bit because they they made those snow physics look pretty good I'm surprised they haven't just ported it or you know one of the later entries the last SSX game was for the Wii it was a Wii exclusive Wow, what happened what happened? Yeah? Yeah, don't remember what it was called one of the best Snowboarding games that exists is on the n64 and it's called snowboard kid. Oh, yeah And it's like there's no business being that good does this one Do you start at the top of a slope and then get to the bottom.
Starting point is 01:29:45 And you go to the bottom. Sometimes there are ramps on the slope. I think that's what I was trying to do. Maybe part of it. There's obstacles and things. It's not just going up and down, but you do tricks, you can do spins and stuff. And I liked the, the way it felt. It, it felt so good in those games.
Starting point is 01:30:04 It was like, they found their own sort of Tony Hawk, pro skater, like the way that feels to play, that feels so good and so specific. SSX had their own version of it that also felt very good. And I just wish I would do anything. I would do anything for a new SSX. I love to hear this. Wow.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I'm gonna go back in the way back machine again. This guy fucking lives back in time. Back to 1992. Wow. Not that far back. Oh my god! Thanks, yeah. I'm gonna tell you something.
Starting point is 01:30:34 If it's a year that I don't remember, it was a long time ago. So 1992, I'm playing a lot of PC RPGs this is the genre I've maybe like you know as I've gone from little kid to tween I feel like I've maybe graduated to playing and I've certainly done some on console as well. You have three pubes so you're playing different games. Dragon warrior it was localized as in the US and Final Fantasy on the NES. I'll ignore that. And then on the PC side I'm playing your wizardries and your might and magics. But I was also playing this game called Darklands.
Starting point is 01:31:19 This was a micro-prose RPG that was set in 15th century medieval Germany. Wow! And it heavily draws on a German history for its setting down to using old Germanic names for things old Germanic currency And you've always been like this I Did not know what it was in for because I was just like oh cool new PC RPG Like got a good review in computer gaming world or whatever is like that looks cool I want to play that game the idea of like baby Nick like reading
Starting point is 01:31:48 Computer gaming world magazine probably at 7-eleven or something Can I buy this magazine? And he sees this thing and he's like, oh wow, look at this German RPG It's adorable. That is very sweet. I'm in the same 7-Eleven playing Street Fighter on a milk crate. About to kick his ass. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:09 So there was a, I don't know if this acronym persists, but there was a thing you would run into in PC gaming back in the day, RTFM, Read the Fucking Manual. And if you were on like a BBS or like a news group, it was very rude or like an early message board and you're like hey how do I quicksave someone might reply RTFM because it was taken it to give as a given that you
Starting point is 01:32:33 were going to read like oftentimes a hundred plus page manual prior to even playing the game there were no tutorials built in anything there were no tool tips there was nothing within the game that told you how to play the game this one was that like to the nth degree. It was so fucking complicated. It had so much going on. So many integrated systems. And it was also super buggy in a way
Starting point is 01:32:53 that you sometimes didn't know what was a bug and what was a feature. It was a really disorienting experience, but it was so ambitious that it's a game that's become beloved by a lot of people in a game that I remember fondly There's still a community of people who play it today I was looking at the Steam store earlier today because it's on Steam It's on GOG and like there's a there's still a very active community just telling people like how to play this game
Starting point is 01:33:16 That's completely inscrutable and so they stopped telling people to read the fucking manual exactly Yeah, now there's a much more helpful and much It's weird that like that element of the, of gaming fandom has become less toxic. But- I'm glad the internet isn't like that anymore. Yeah, I know. It has this incredible character creation engine
Starting point is 01:33:35 that is still like so, so good. And I feel like there, you know, you see elements of it, certainly with the Elder Scrolls games, which were influenced specifically by this, and some other role playing systems. There's elements of this in Mass Effect, but like your personal history and role playing in terms of crafting your character
Starting point is 01:33:55 is as important as your stats. It's more focused on that than in terms of distributing skill points, although that is an element. So for instance, like how you are born determines what occupations are available to you. Whether you're low born or born as a noble. You decide at which age your character is going to begin their journey and you're making like a party of four.
Starting point is 01:34:16 And that determines what skills they're able to accrue over the course of their lifetimes. So if you like, you want, you can start them off at age 50. So they've spent a whole lifetime like as like a hermit and then as a scholar, and then they appeared as a bandit where they were robbing people on the streets and they were accumulating all these different skills, but they're also old.
Starting point is 01:34:35 So they're like, they're physically frail and they're much less likely to survive. Or you can begin at a younger age where you're much more vital. But again, you haven't spent as much time, maybe you spent five years in the military as a low born soldier, so you have skill at pole arms,
Starting point is 01:34:52 but you don't have anything beyond that. You've certainly, yeah. This game sounds like a fucking rule. It sounds good. It's insane. But there's things like, so there's an element of being literate is a skill. So you can have characters in your party that don't read or write.
Starting point is 01:35:04 And in fact, it's maybe, it's maybe sometimes like a smart calculation to be like, you know what? I'm gonna have one guy who was an apprentice priest or an apprentice nun. And so understands saints, which is a big element of this game as well, is just knowing your saints.
Starting point is 01:35:23 But then also he's a character who can like read signs and can like read letters because we need someone but not everyone needs to be able to do that. Speaking Latin is a skill. There's all that sort of shit that happens. And then also it was the first ever real time with pause RPG combat system, which is a thing that the Baldur's Gate games
Starting point is 01:35:41 would later use. Wow. But things like that with the combat system, which wasn't great, it was super duper janky. But like if you got injured, it wasn't like, oh, okay, I gotta take a healing potion. It's like, okay, I gotta go rest for weeks. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:56 To recover from my wounds. And you know what, I may be permanently damaged from this. There'd be a thing like death, and death is just permanent. Like if your character dies, they just die. So you might be like attacked by wildlife And then you know like like one of them just eats one of your party members And they're just gone, and that's it you have to go get someone that you have to recruit someone else I remember specifically this happening to me in my playthrough as a kid one of my playthroughs as a kid because this is game
Starting point is 01:36:19 I'd play again again and make new characters because that was a part of the fun, but my my party was arrested They were tortured until they confessed. And then they were each executed at the gallows. And it was game over. But it's one of those things where it's just like, it's sheer ambition and it doesn't quite land. It doesn't quite come together. They couldn't quite execute this in 1992
Starting point is 01:36:43 with their hardware and with their resources, but just like what it aspired to be is so grand and it's so awesome to appreciate and remember from that standpoint. There's a rock paper shotgun piece. I looked up and I read just a little excerpt from this by Sinvega, Darklands retrospective, what RPGs are supposed to be. I'll just read the final couple of paragraphs of this. Darklands is great for more reasons than I can breathlessly enthuse about. It's entirely open world with endless jobs and events and everything from Luxembourg to Merriamburg open from day one. I didn't even touch on how it's open world. Your only goal is a heroic
Starting point is 01:37:15 reputation which is tracked globally and locally. You can be a hero in Stuttgart, an outlaw on Rhymes and completely unknown in a dozen towns in between. Even today that's something few RPGs attempt. There's also a long main quest that's completely optional after which you're free to play on indefinitely. It is, in short, what games are supposed to be. For all its flawed and frayed edges, it still shines with a love and ambition
Starting point is 01:37:35 spelled out in its manual, and it richly deserves the follow-ups that sadly never came. Wow. Dark Land's a game that should... rise from the grave. I always forget that we're doing it, Wow. Darklands a game that should rise from the grave. I always forget that we're doing it.
Starting point is 01:37:50 And then when it comes up, it makes me laugh. It's funny. We I have a list of like 10 games. Me too. I have 10 games. I have 10 games. But we're talking about these, I feel like in such depth and with such passion that we're kind of, you know, we're we're we're we're I think we're good to maybe just do another one of these some day. Yeah, let's let's let's revisit this for the future. Games that time forgot! Rage! Fubic rage!
Starting point is 01:38:08 Games that time forgot, and games we ran out of time to talk about. Yeah. No, I had fully 10 games, and I was like, I'll choose three from this, but like, I love hearing... Yeah, I love hearing it. Even the games that I've, like, I've never heard of that fucking game neck never But it sounds like something I want to go home and look up Yeah, it's really cool, and you can still get it and play it. It's playable on yeah
Starting point is 01:38:31 It's one of those things where they've they've they've ported it or they've made it playable on on Gog and on and steam at least Well, I find it run on a modern PC. God bless them. Yeah, God bless them God bless him. Yeah, God bless him. Should we do segment? OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SH sit down, baby. It's it's sit down cha, babe. It's, it's. Sit down, cha cha. What's the segment? Uh, here's the segment. I'll read a title, and you tell me if it's the title of an Isekai anime, where a character gets sucked
Starting point is 01:39:17 into a video game world, or a description I made up of an actual video game franchise. Oh. So for people who are not as familiar with it, a guy is a genre where a character is transported into another reality It's pretty it's become pretty common an anime common trope and very often. It's a video game reality Solo leveling kind of that which we covered I get animate not exactly But anyway, we talked about all kinds of anime on get animated patreon.com slash get played This is kind of a marriage of the two.
Starting point is 01:39:45 So answer, the segment is Isakai or Is a Guy? Wait, okay, hold on. First off, excellent title. Yeah. Secondly, I'm lost. Okay, so I will read the title of it. I hope the first couple will help serve as something of a tutorial.
Starting point is 01:40:01 I will read a title. You tell me if the title is an actual isekai anime, the actual title of something you can find and watch streaming. Or if it's something I made up, so is a guy is a description of an existing video game. Got it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Wait, so the only options are it is an anime or it is a video game? Yes. What's the part you made up? I made up the description that sounds like an isekai title, but it's actually the description is a video game? Yes. What's the part you made up? I made up the description that sounds like an Isekai title, but it's actually the description of a video game. Okay, great, got it. Hopefully this will clarify things.
Starting point is 01:40:32 I explained it poorly. First up. No, I think you explained it well, I'm just dumb. No. First up, that time I got reincarnated as a slime. Heather, bing, ding. That's a real anime. You are correct, that is a real anime. That is I got reincarnated as a slime. Heather, bing, ding. That's a real anime. You are correct.
Starting point is 01:40:46 That is a real anime. That is Isekai. Next up, battling slimes to level up in a fantasy world. Okay, Matt. Yes. That is a guy. It sounds like it's maybe the Dragon Quest franchise. That's right.
Starting point is 01:41:00 That is a description I wrote of Dragon Quest. Okay. So we get what we're doing here. That makes sense. Okay, nice. This is good. Okay, great. All right, next up. The world's finest assassin gets reincarnated in another world as an aristocrat.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Heather. Heather. Is a guy. What, did you say is a guy or is a guy? Oh, see, now that's a problem right there. Yeah. I'm saying it's a video game. No, that's the title of an isekai anime
Starting point is 01:41:29 Next up the assassin's descendant gets reincarnated in another world as his ancestor Yeah, yeah, that's assassin's creed. That's assassin's creed. That's right bad. It's a guy All right next up in another world with my smartphone Heather Heather That's an anime. That is correct. That is an east guy anime next up I battle to stay alive with an AI trapped in my brain Matt yeah Um, I think this is a guy that sounds like it's cyberpunk 2077. That's correct. Whoo. All right. Here we go That's leading Matt has three
Starting point is 01:42:04 Heather has two. You're both doing great. I lost one. You're both doing great. Uh-huh. All right, number seven. Cooking in the wild to enhance my health and stamina. Cooking in the wild to enhance my health and stamina.
Starting point is 01:42:16 I'm gonna let Matt take the bullet. I'm gonna say, huh. I'm gonna say this is a guy and that it's Legend of the zealoteers of the kingdom I had breath of the wild but same franchise, so I'll give it to you Wow All right, I forgot I was the only one that actually played that game number eight. I played here's the kingdom What are you talking about? I finished it. Yeah, I bounced off it Finished breath of the wild
Starting point is 01:42:41 So did I I finished both of them all right. Put a fucking crown on you, King Shit. King Steam! Kingdom Steam! Number 8. Campfire cooking in another world with my absurd skill. Heather. Heather. That's Isekai anime. That's correct. Number 9. There are a lotekai anime. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Number nine. There are a lot of these. Yeah, a lot. Reincarnated in the underworld, I fight to reunite my family. Reincar... One more time? Reincarnated in the underworld, I'll fight to reunite my family.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Heather. That's an isekai anime. No, that's my description of Hades. Oh, wow. Next up, as a reincarnated aristocrat, I'll use my appraisal skill to rise in the world. Can I go twice? Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Heather, that's an anime. I know that one. You are correct. That is an anime. So wait. What the hell's going on in that show? You guys are praising shit? Wait.
Starting point is 01:43:43 That's what I'm watching. One, I wanna watch it. Two, an anime, the title of an anime can just be a sentence. This is who I am and this is what I'm doing. Alright, a few more. Collecting objects to impress my powerful king. Is a guy, Katamari Damacy. Yes, you are correct.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Wow, nice. Let's fucking go, dude. I wish this was the game show. I was winning money on TV. Matt's got five, Heather's got four. It's very close. Number 12. The weakest tamer began a journey to pick up trash.
Starting point is 01:44:21 The weakest? The weakest tamer began a journey to pick up trash. Tamer? Tamer? Tamer. T-A-M-E-R? Correct. I think I'd like, I'm gonna say this is an anime.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Yes, this is an anime. And I've cracked the code of the game, and I know how the game works. Okay. Okay. I mean, it's pretty straightforward at this point. I took, no, it's pretty straightforward at this point. Uh... I took me... No, it took me twelve. Reincarnated as a sword.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Hahahaha! I'm gonna say that's an anime. Yes, it is an anime. Reborn as a vending machine. That's an anime. You are correct. That is an anime. Reborn as a vending machine. That's an anime. You are correct. That is an anime Reborn as a washing machine I mean that's that has to be an anime
Starting point is 01:45:15 No is a guy. That's my description of banjo-toey from the banjo-kazooie franchise where mumbo-jumbo transforms you into a washer Wow Heather I think is now taking the lead a Kazooie franchise where Mumbo Jumbo transforms you into a washer. Wow. Heather, I think, is now taking the lead. People banjo-tooy on my ass. No, it's six all. All right, we have two more, so this'll decide it. Trapped in a dating sim. Sounds like being in LA.
Starting point is 01:45:40 All right, Heather's gonna win. No. No. Trapped in a dating sim? Trapped in a dating sim. All right, Heather's gonna win. No. No. No. No. No. Trapped in a dating sim? Trapped in a dating sim. Man, the problem is, is that that's definitely is the premise of a video game,
Starting point is 01:45:57 but could also be the premise of an anime. I'm gonna go with anime. Heather is correct. Okay, woof. Last one. premise of an anime. I'm gonna go with anime. Heather is correct. Okay. Last one. Trapped in a dating sim with Weiger. What? That is a guy.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Yeah. That's is a guy. Yeah and Is the game dream daddy It's a tie Perfect what a perfect outcome That's this week's get played our producers are Rochelle Chenard underscore underscore sard, our music is by Ben Prunty, benpruntymusic.com, our art is by Duck Brigade Design,
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Starting point is 01:47:02 Oh my God, we are watching the 8th MS team. It's a Gundam show. It wasn't my idea, but boy, oh, boy, am I excited to be watching it with you guys. We're covering two episodes per week. Yeah. It's a six episode run. The boys are watching Gundam with me.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Yeah, very, very excited. I'm enjoying myself so far. I've only seen the two that we've seen. watching Gundam with me. Yeah, very, very excited. Enjoying myself so far. I've only seen the two that we've seen. I'm very excited to be watching. Fuck yes! I'm very excited. Mobile Suit Gundam, the eighth MS team. It is on Hulu if you wanna watch along
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