Get Played - GameSlop: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Heather, Nick and Matt go back to their old ways and experience the $10 Nintendo Switch 2 user manual/museum Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour. Check out our brand new merch at kinshipgoods.com/getplayedFollow us on social media @getplayedpodMusic by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.comArt by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com For ad-free main feed episodes, our complete back catalogue including How Did This Get Played? and our Premium DLC episodes and our exclusive show Get Anime'd where we're currently watching Gurren Lagann go to patreon.com/getplayed Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at [e-mail] Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fm All of our links can be found at linktree.com/getplayedpodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. Man I am loving just walking around this welcome tour environment. Yeah, I kind of thought it would be a little whack and like maybe I wouldn't like it so much but it's actually really cool. Physically being on the surface of a Switch 2, it just feels right. And also, I'm just loving being isometric. I'm loving that. Yeah, I haven't really been isometric in a long time,

so this has been very exciting for me. Hey, do you guys want to take a quiz? Yeah, let's go over. Matt, this is part of the experience. We go over to these little booths and we take a quiz. Okay, yeah. By the way, I found these glasses, but I'll turn them in later.

No, I'll take them. Thank you so much. Hi, welcome to the Switch. Welcome to our quiz area. We have a feature you probably didn't even know the Switch has. Why don't you? I know it's got a touch screen. Yeah.

I know that so far. Learned all about the touch screen. Learned about the mouse functionality. Absolutely. Do you want to hop right to the touch screen, learned about the mouse functionality. Absolutely. Do you want to hop right to the quiz? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Question one.

Oh, you took a dump on your switch. What kind of, what do you use to clean it up? One, paper towel. Two, dunk it in water. water Three talk nice to it or four Throw it in the trash. No, hang on. I Isn't I took a dump on it? Yeah, first of all, we took we took the dump we can't I consciously or Accidentally, I'm just I don't understand how this would even happen second do it on purpose My main my main issue so far is that at the other quizzes?

There's like three to five little things to read so you can prepare for the quiz and there was none for this Oh, you want a pop quiz you can read about it. You can read about it I got a I've got all the information you need here on a napkin. Let me see this real quick. Okay, so yeah There's a drawing of a draw a realistic drawing of me taking a shit Let me see Yeah, I mean that is very I'm disturbingly realistic. Yeah, this is horrible Which one is it gonna be one two three or four? I guess I'll do the throw it away because I probably I'm not gonna have the association of yeah

I guess if I'm taking a shit on it. I probably don't want it anymore So maybe I'll sanitize it and sell it to GameStop I don't think I'm gonna want to be playing this hardware and God that's horrifying to think of okay There's so many shit it on things that I've bought at GameStop They were cleaned Okay, question 3ds had dookie on it It's nasty my salt snake amiibo is in somebody's ass? You guys want to do question two?

Yeah, sure. Yeah, let's do it. Okay, question two. Uh-oh. You got drunk and you pissed all over your Switch 2. You brought it with you to the doctor's office and now everybody's looking at you in the waiting room. Number one, wipe it off with a paper towel. Number two, put it in the drinking fountain and try and get it all

the piss off of it. Three, throw it away. Four, you tell the doctor, where's my mom? So this is another how do you clean it up question? Yeah, another bodily function. Well, that's the booth you're at. H-booth has a theme. Oh, how to clean it. Oh, that's what the theme is. Yeah, how to clean your switch.

Well, again, I just, I didn't do the research in terms of why I just went straight to the quiz. He's got the napkin. Do you want to read the napkin? I'll unfold it and here's me taking a piss on it. Okay, so which one is- Damn, dude, you're doing all right. I was gonna say, it could've been a little nicer to me.

Which one is it? One, two, three, or four. There's a line forming. I don't know, I guess probably my best play here is to ask the doctor about my mom or whatever the fuck, just so they're like, oh, this guy's insane. Yeah. As opposed to- Best case scenario, at the end of this interaction. I'm in a padded room

Okay, fine question three the heart the hardest question You're you're in you've been black bagged and You're in the back of her truck. They bring you to a secure facilities Probably a a yellow site. And then, and then guys, you're tied to a chair and a guy's showing you nasty pictures until you shoot your cum all over your shoes. That is Christ.

Like involuntarily? It's torture. I don't, nothing that happens in torture is above board. So I'm seeing so many things that are nasty. These images are so arousing that I am spontaneously, I guess I'm nude in this scenario, orgasming onto my Switch 2 hardware. How do you clean it up?

I mean, look. What? Not my first rodeo here, paper towel. We learn the arcane secrets of Nintendo hardware and purchase $95 worth of accessories as we discuss inexplicably paid interactive manual Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour this week on Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Anne Campbell, along with my fellow host, Tiger Weiger.

That's me, Tiger Weiger, along with our third host, Matt Apodaca. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premiere video game podcast where this week we are talking about Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour. That's right, and I feel like Nintendo Switch 2 is just kinda on the brain right now, partly because they had this big Donkey Kong Bonanza Direct that, I don't know, I felt pretty,

like I was pretty enticed by this. I was like, this game's looking good. Here's what you gotta know about me. Yeah. I didn't watch a second of this direct. Yeah. They had me at... They had me from the jump.

I didn't need any convincing. They had you at... Duh. I had, yeah. A new Donkey Kong, 3D Donkey Kong game. I didn't need, I've seen all I need to see. I'm good. The Pauline confirmation was that you didn't even need that.

Didn't even need it. Yeah, you were going in anywhere. I mean, I was too. It just looks like so fun to run around this Donkey Kong a bust and shit But I like the redesigns. I'm on board with those. I like that. We'd seem to have some Official clarification that cranky Kong is in fact the original Donkey Kong Yes, that word they were just establishing that as lore not as fan theory Not as this thing that's that's implied in the rare games. But it just looks fun as how to play.

I saw some screen grabs from the direct. I didn't watch the direct directly. But I was interested in that there's the theory that it is running on the Breath of the Wild engine. That the landscaping is so similar in design that it must be the same engine, only now you can deform it physically. The UX seems to weirdly have a little bit of

Breath of the Wild to it too, so I could buy that. I mean, you know, these studios reuse engines. Why wouldn't they? Yeah, why wouldn't they? I'm just excited to have, I just love Donkey Kong. I love Donkey Kong. I guess I don't really think about it that much. I love him.

Do you know what studio doesn't reuse engines? Square Enix, when they're making Final Fantasy games, every time they completely rebuild an entirely new engine. Yeah. What was... Was 16 on Unreal Engine? Was that what it was? 16 is finally on Unreal,

but 15 was designed from the ground up. Right. And then never used again. Man, I love 16. I know you do. Sick fuck. I'm a sicko. Sue me. Oh, sorry. I love Final Fantasy 16.

God, I wonder if... I will sue your ass. Alright, I'll sue you in court. Press charges. Oh man, my lawyer's gonna love destroying your life. Oh man, can't wait till I'm co-hosting Doughboys with Mitch while you're fucking rotting in a jail cell, bitch. Jesus Christ.

Why would you want to be on Doughboys? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, nobody wants that. I completely forgot what I was going to say. Final Fantasy 16? That in an alternate dimension, my game for winning the Switch 2 bet was Final Fantasy 15. Oh, interesting.

I would have been interesting. Yeah, yeah. I think you made the right choice. Yeah, I think ultimately Mother 3 is the better choice, but boy oh boy, I love 15. I think we would, I mean, I think I've started 15 at some point within the last year. Great!

Just to see what it was like. I think you made the right choice, and I think if you had picked 15, we all would have... I think we would have had a bad time, I think. Look, I think maybe your reaction to the Final Fantasy XV movie, Kingsglaive, was enough for me to step back from that instinct. I was trying to pull Kingsg Glaive and I almost said Knight's Blade. I knew it was something like that. Equally stupid.

I kind of jumped right into video games, but I feel like we should talk about the cheeseburgers we're going to eat. Oh my god! What the fuck? I'm sorry that we started the video game show by talking about video games too fast. We didn't derail the show by talking about how we're all excited about the burgers. To be fair, Nick is in visible physical pain. Look at the way he's sitting.

He's like in self-protective mode. Yes. Like, uh, we're having, okay, listener, we're having cheeseburgers after this record. Hell yeah. And Nick is really excited about it. He even texted us midday and said, can we have cheeseburgers for dinner?

It's all I've been thinking about. Yeah. The only thing keeping me going through this day is the prospect of cheeseburgers at the end of this record. That was me today with the Coke Zero. I've been like licking my lips thinking about just chugging a Coke Zero. Nice and cold. Right.

Oh man. It's been hitting. We should mention our ranch is out of town right now. Our buddy, Engineer of the Year, Sam Rogich is here guesting. Sam, where do you stand on a cheeseburger? How do you like a burg? You guys might not like this, but I get no cheese on my burger. No cheese on a burger. Yeah Do you have a cheese a melted cheese aversion? What is it? It's I'm very picky with cheese

Yeah, I think in general I just am not that big of a fan. Do you like do you like pizza? Pizza I can do for guys I can get down with mozzarella and I think yeah It's just I have an aversion to cheese on a burger Interesting which is weird and everyone in Chicago that I grew up with thought it was insane. I don't think it's that weird I think it's a completely reasonable way to Yeah, I used to opt for no cheese on burgers So I would do a double meat from in-and-out burger. Me too. That's what I do. Double meat good. Plain meat and bread? Well, no, no, I get all the fixin's on it. You get the sauce on there. You get the veggies

I do a sacrilegious thing at in-and-Out. What's that? I don't get the spread. Whoa. No spread. I do yellow mustard. I ask them for yellow mustard instead. That's fine. I just like it more. The only thing that is a specific need for me

at an In-N-Out burger is extra crispy bun. Oh, you like a toasty bun. I love extra toasted bun. Yeah, that's good stuff. Man, these burgers can't come soon enough. I'm so excited. That's what I'm saying. We gotta do the episode to earn the burgers, that's good stuff man. I know these burgers can't come soon enough. I'm so excited Well, here's we gotta do the episode to earn the burgers, but I'm just like I know and then but here's what I tried to do I tried to be really bad didn't I I was trying to be so bad before we started because we can't order the burgers

To order ahead this yeah This particular place does not allow you to pre-order on the app you once you place the order and the burgers are on route So I was like just order them and then we'll stop when they get here. Yeah, well, like, so like at this point in the record, we take a break and start eating cheeseburgers and come back to the end of the episode. But here's the thing, think about this. We keep eating the burger right now. It's my only counter. I rest my case. Man, you're going to get destroyed in court.

Are you representing yourself? That's right. Half lawyer, half me. Costume that I'm gonna wear. You get locked up. What did you... Do you have a favorite burger? Do you have a go-to? I mean, God, I love In-N-Out so much.

Yeah, me too. I mean, probably my answer is just In-N-Out by default. It's probably just In-N-Out, but I like... You know, this is gonna sound like a crazy answer. God, I love In-N-Out so much. Yeah, me too. I mean, probably my answer is just In-N-Out by default. It's probably just In-N-Out, but I like... You know, this is gonna sound like a crazy answer. Yeah. Whatever the burger is in hand. I just love burgers. I think burger top three food for me, I think.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm the burger boy. As far as like other burgers, I've really enjoyed the Culver's Burgers in Wisconsin. Culver's, yeah, you'll know that as someone from the Midwest. Cul burgers in Wisconsin. Culver's yeah, you'll know that it's from the Midwest. Culver's Smashburger before Smashburger almost like. Fantastic spot. Love them.

And then A&W Canada, which is a different company than A&W in the US, but the burgers they do up there are dynamic. I want to shout out a local Chicago, as long as we're on Chicago, char-grilled burger joint called Charcoal Delights, where they had an open charcoal grill inside of the kitchen with all this venting. And so you would get burgers as if they were cooked outside, but inside. And it was pretty fucking great.

Everyone working the grill getting black lung. I have two places just came to mind that are local to Los Angeles. Yeah. Father's office, kind of a hoity-toity burger. That is like an upscale burger. That's one of the OG like elevated burgers. Had one of the worst dates of my life there.

But the burger, I think- I'm sorry. Yeah. I think the I'm sorry. Yeah. I think the burger really, really good though. I think this is a delicious burger. I probably have that like once every three years. I don't go very often. Yeah.

But that's got like, it's got blue cheese, caramelized onions. Yeah, it's got an onion jam, which is the thing that I really like. Exactly. And this is like a 20 year old establishment Yeah, it's a long-term LA local. No, this is one of the first like when this when gastropubes were like a novelty Yeah, this was one of the first places

This was a trailblazer that had like it like an elevated burger like they have a burger that was like $20 at a time when that was like a lot of money to pay for a hamburger as opposed to what a Wendy's combo cost now Oh, did you guys ever eat at the Bowery? Yeah, the Bowery burger was great. It was on an English muffin. On an English muffin was so fucking good. I've had this. It's gone.

It's gone now. At Father's office, they don't have ketchup because the chef hates ketchup. So you can't get fries with a side of ketchup. And this is why I don't go that often because I think, this year, I'm not kidding you, my wife and I both decided that we both love ketchup. Ketchup's great. We love ketchup. They also allow zero substitutions on the burgers.

And their french fries come in a shopping cart. A little tiny shopping cart, like a Hot Wheels style, but larger. The other LA place that I think is really, really great, and I think this is like a classic place the Apple Pan the Apple Pan is so fast Oh my god, I love that like it. I don't like Apple Pan I loved it, and I've gone more than once cuz I'm like I must be wrong Cuz everybody loves Apple Pan. I just don't like I don't like it. I'm in heaven when I'm sitting at the counter there

It's so great restaurant a great counter. Yeah great pie I haven't, I weirdly haven't had pie there yet. Oh, the pie is incredible. I know. But it's at a part of town that I'm just not at enough. So I've only had it like a handful of times. Have you had Cassels? Is that what you had? Oh yeah, Cassels is good. I have not had that one yet, but I've heard that's good.

What are we doing? What are we? I got like a a fucking Nick brain. I guess we give burgers five forks or something. I was looking at pictures of burgers earlier, just thinking about what my night was going to be. Yeah, no, Nick was, Nick sent a single text to himself of the burger emoji. We got burgers on the brain, we got them on the horizon, but right now we gotta talk about some video games we've been playing. It's What Are You Playing? What are you playing hides me the resident Merchant and I'm gonna ask my friends what they've been playing

Cuz I'm out of work and this is my job Meta Madaka WarioBlein. Thank you so much Resident Evil 4 Merchant. Thank you Resident Evil 4 Merchant. This is your job Did you know cigarettes are bad? Bad? Bad for you. Yeah. Yeah, I did know that. Yeah, that's been news to me. Oh no. Are you sm- because I used to smoke, I quit smoking many years ago, but I do, I do miss them. I know this information. Yeah. And every time it comes up, I just like can't picture- you can't picture me with a pack of parliaments.

No. No fucking way, Nick. Wow. Really? I can? I can't. Sam can see it. I think I knew you when you were a smoker and I can't imagine. I would overlap a little bit. Sam's got the sins over there. See here's the difference. Sam's dipping. Sam's cool. Sam's cool as hell. I can't picture you doing anything cool. Jesus Christ. Wow, Matt. Fucking coming for me today. I'll see you in court. No, I guess you were young at one point. So I could see it then maybe. Now it would make no sense for you to smoke a cigarette. Yeah, sure. Except, unless we got new information that they're good. They're not.

No, they're bad apparently. They're bad. They're real bad for you. I was hoping that they're gonna be good. Real bad. Don't, don't, don't, no smoking kids. Or adults! You know what it is? I don't mean to be coming for you.

I just haven't spoken to anybody all day today. Oh no. I was at home all day. Wait, really? These are your first IRL conversations? These are my first interactions I've had today. Oh, okay. I love it when that happens. That's my dream. Yeah, I'm kind of on one, I guess.

I'm showing off. Meanwhile, I've been I've shown off. Meanwhile, I've been here at Headgum all day long. I've done, this is my third podcast recording in a row, so I'm kind of like at wit's end. You walked in here with your metal lunchbox. Hard head. Punch the clock. Only apples inside?

How many do you think you could take down in a day? How many apples could I eat in a day? Yeah. If my goal was to eat as many apples as possible. 30. You think you could eat 30? I think I could eat 30 apples. It's such a funny number.

You would have insane diarrhea. Yeah, like I know. Midday. Yeah, yeah. Nonstop fiber. I think honestly I'm good for like three maybe. In a day? If you were maxing?

That's as many as I'd want. I don't think I'd want more than that. But that's a different question. Yeah. Like in the scenario you were proposing, it was like how many could you get through if you were pushing yourself? I could easily get 31.

What is, oh my God. What is a day to you? Is it 24 hours or is it like 15 awake hours? Yeah, I think it's like dawn to dusk. I think it's like from, I'm rising until I'm lying in bed. So you're looking at like a 10 to 15 hour window. So you're eating two apples an hour. Yeah, I think I could do that.

That's achievable, you could do it. I think I'd have a tummy ache. I think I'd have the rumblies. Yeah. But I think it would be, I could do it. Are think I'd have a tummy ache. I think I'd have the rumblies. Yeah. But I think I could do it. Are you gonna do one apple variety or are you gonna do a different, mix them up, you know? If I have the leeway to try different apple varietals,

then I'll absolutely do that. Yeah, why wouldn't I vary it up? Yeah, it's interesting, I don't know. Maybe we should try it. There's a place here that sells freeze-dried apple slices. Oh and No sugar apple fruit roll-up and both of them are impeccable. Oh wow Apple a good flavor. It is good. I love it. I love an apple butter Oh, that's good butter so good don't come in look. We're just hungry. I used to have an apple butter all the time

It's so fucking good. I just stopped having it in my house. You would buy it? Yeah. You can do that. Yeah, you can do whatever you want. What? You can buy apple butter. Probably get it at the grocery store. I gotta go.

I gotta leave. Okay. I sort of have a big one to talk about. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Because obviously we've been playing a lot of Switch 2 about. Oh, oh, oh, oh! Because, you know, obviously we've been playing a lot of Switch 2 stuff, you know? Been doing a lot of Mario Kart, been doing a lot of Pokemon Scarlet and Cyberpunk,

but a new game has entered the chat for me. Here comes a new challenger. Here comes a new challenger from my backlog, from my Nintendo Switch One backlog. USA! Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Japan! Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I've been playing Hollow Knight.

Wow! Yeah! And Hollow Knight. So here's the deal, here's my story with Hollow Knight. By the way, we ranched not here, but Ranch has been playing Hollow Knight for some time. I think almost all the way done with it. Yes.

So I'm just trying to be like ranch, you know. Yeah, we all are. Yeah, we're all just trying to be like ranch. I had picked it up a bunch. I mean, I probably bought this game five years ago, like, or you know, whenever. I bought it many years ago at this point. I am like you. I have owned Hollow Knight for a long time. Yeah. Never really gotten into it. I think I own it on Switch and Steam. Yeah, sure. I was like, I ago at this point. I am like you I have owned Hollow Knight for a long time Yeah, I've never really gotten into it. I think I own it on Switch and Steam. I'll play this somewhere And I picked it up a couple of times and it hasn't grabbed me

And I was just like oh, maybe this is it's just not the time similar to Celeste right where I would start it And be like not now man. I guess I'm so happy you played so I'm so happy I played it too what an all happy you played Celeste. I'm so happy I played it too. What an all-timer. And I think that sort of has prepared me for this. Sure. Being like, you know, what's wrong with you? You have these games in your backlog that you know you're gonna love, just commit.

So what I would do in the past was that I would just, I wouldn't pick up from where I left off, I would just start a fresh save because I had forgotten in between times starting it. And so this time I did the same thing. I started a completely fresh save because I wasn't very far into it. Like each time I've done this, I've probably played like an hour of it. It was just sort of like, I don't know, I don't know. Started a fresh save.

I'm about seven hours in now. And I love it. And the thing that I'm really loving about it is, which I guess I had known but just hadn't experienced yet. It's a Metroidvania by way of Souls games. Sure. Okay. So it has similar elements of both genres. Where, I mean, I guess Souls games are also

Metroidvanias in 3D space in some capacity. Interesting. Hmm. I don't travel backwards through a lot of areas. I guess not really, yeah. It's not like the same, because I feel like the Metroidvania experience is so much like, oh, this is signposted

where I'm gonna get an ability where I can Return to this area and do something new. Yes, and there is an element of that in Shoals games, but it's not as I don't know. I think I'll dispute your hypothesis a little bit look I've been coming for you. It's only fair. Yeah So I'd say objection sustained on my part. I'm getting My my bell rung over here. Counsel approach the bench. Gentlemen, you need to keep it cool and even in this courtroom. I don't want any more shenanigans.

Both of you need to stay at your respective desks. I would love, I've never seen this before ever. I would love to see the most accurate courtroom improv scene ever done. It's impossible. Nobody can do it. Oh yeah, because you get lost in the legalese so quick and then you start making nonsense and now it's just silly court.

Do you know what would be a funny TV show? Is a show called Do Their Job. Yeah, that is funny. And it's a show where you take a bunch of people who don't have the profession and you make them do the profession to the best of their ability without any pointers. And then you tell them how many things they got wrong at the end. So for example, you take a bunch of people and you make one the judge, one the prosecutor,

like you give them all the positions, and then for a half hour on television they have to do a court case. Yeah, the stenographer like hyping as fast as they can and fucking up. And then at the end they get scored, like maybe it's a family or something. Heather, this is a good idea. And then like the next week get scored like maybe it's a family or something Heather. This is a good idea

And then like the next week you have a different job Wow Yeah, I mean I'm in yeah a cop episode everyone does a good job. It's like easy So It has it's a Metroidvania, but the soul's element is that like when you die in this game not unlike but the Souls element is that when you die in this game, not unlike in Elden Ring or any of these games, you can go back and pick up your lost, your Souls or whatever. In this game, they're Geos,

and you use those as in-game currency, similar to these other games. My other favorite thing about it is, he's just a little guy. Yeah, he's very much a little guy. He's just a little guy. He's a little guy much a little guy. He's just a little guy. He's a little guy. I love the world, I love how weird everything is,

and I like that it's all bugs and stuff. I'm having a great time with it. I am at a spot right now where I am getting my ass kicked a little bit. And it's, I mean, just so the listener knows, for the people that have played the game, I'm in the city of tears, and I'm on the roof fighting the boss I can't remember what the name of the boss is currently but he's a big old chunky guy

He's flowing around and stuff and he's he's tough, but I'm gonna get him. I'm gonna get him I'm excited to to finish this game I do want to finish this before I start whatever my next big game is. I'd love to hear this. Another big old chunky guy who's pretty tough. Me. So just watch your ass. Gentlemen! Gentlemen! Here's the scenario. We're both in court suing each other this way.

We both get put in jail for wasting everybody's time. I love that you're playing that, Matt. It's really, really good. I think if you, I know that you haven't played it, but I know that your Alpha brother has. Yeah, my Alpha brother is like, it's one of those games where the percentage is over 100. He's like 180% of that game or something like that, and told me it wasn't that hard, which is classic alpha move. It's extremely hard. It's a very hard game. The easiest, the simplest stuff has given me a lot of trouble.

I learned a mechanic too late. In hours into the game, I didn't know that I could do, which is like swipe down with my sword, and that's helped me a lot. I've had some false starts with that game as well, and I do also just need to dig back into it. I'm trying to get it off my backlog before Silksong comes out. So I'll be ready for, you know, so I got time. Yeah, yeah, you got some time.

Yeah. Things like Duke Nukem Forever just stayed at this point. Chinese democracy. Mm-hmm. Another reference of a similar type of thing Heather. What are you playing well? Now that the strike is over. I've been playing fortnight Wow And I've decided that I'm going to give a once a month fortnight update Okay, I'm never going to stop playing fucking fortnight sure, but I don't want to inundate the listener

But it has been a long time since I've been able to talk about fortnight, so I am Chomping at the fucking bit to talk about it now. We've just entered a new season, which is superhero themed There are your standard guns fortnight guns some lasers, etc, but there are a bevy of superhero themed power-ups like of superhero-themed power-ups, like a thing that can turn you into a flying bird, like a raven. There's a set of pom-poms you can shake

that turn you into a werewolf. There are crow gloves that sick, like a flock of crows on people. There is a set of gloves that can catapult you into the sky off of the resonance of a bass note. All of your wacky fucking Fortnite shit. The main battle pass is Superman themed.

There is also a Crypto the Dog mythic item that is a little dog bone that you can throw and then he flies in from the sky and does like an amount of structural damage to whatever he hits. I have discovered that all of these weapons are not for me. And my squad has developed its own personal private meta, which is working phenomenally for us,

where we don't pick up any of that shit. Wow. And it is the first, I mean, he doesn't listen to the show and kind of makes fun of it whenever I'm squatting with him. But my friend Barrett was like, hey, I'm not carrying any of this shit anymore, I'm only carrying Shockwaves, which is a very classic Fortnite item

in almost every season. And there's like an aerial dash I'm not carrying any of this shit anymore. I'm only carrying Shock Waves, which is a very classic Fortnite item in almost every season. And there's like an aerial dash that you can recharge. And he's like, I'm not doing any of the other movement. And I have not had as many victory crowns in a season this early as I have with this loadout, which I have not encountered in any other player. And perhaps I'm spoiling my own meta here on the show

But um, I love it. It is a good season. It is super fun I am so happy to be back on fortnight What would it take for you to stop playing for I have no idea and I have desperately asked myself this question In it like it is it occupies so much of my gaming time that I feel like everything else has kind of like peeled away, unfortunately. It is not the only game I've been playing this week. In part because it's been very hot

and so I don't like playing PlayStation when it's hot because the area I play PlayStation in is a hot area. So I've been playing Persona 5 again. Wow, I love it. And I've spoken before about how stressed out Atlus games get me because I'm like, I'm not doing the right thing at the right time. This time, I am taking the advice

in the corner of the screen during loading, which just says take your time, and the sort of vibe of the game with the corner of the screen during loading, which just says take your time, and the sort of vibe of the game with the jazzy music and the fact that the main character keeps his hands in his pockets most of the time, and I'm playing as breezy as I can. I am not farther than I've been in the game previously because I started all over again,

but my playthrough this time has been so much more enjoyable because I'm not trying to figure out what the proper thing to do is. You're not trying to min-max it. I'm not min-maxing. Yeah, I love it. I'm like, I wanna talk to this person, so I'm going to talk to this person.

I wanna read a book. I'm like, I'm trying to experience Persona as if I was the dude, and I had no idea how to upgrade stats. And I'm just like, what would I want right now? Would I wanna clean the curry shop? Would I wanna read a book? Would I wanna go to the video store?

And I'm kind of like following my whims and allowing the shape of my character to be dictated by those sort of like progressive power-ups of your stats. Cool. I'm not going for any particular build. I'm just playing it breezy. What's the, there's the the gamer kid with the hat. What is, hat says get rekt? Is that what it is? The baseball hat? I love that hat. That's pretty good.

I think I get, I think that's, I love that either. I mean, I finished Persona 5 Royal, finished Metaphor, Riefound Tazio, I love both those games. What you're saying, that's the thing I like about the Atlas games, because life is all about choosing to do something is choosing not to do something else, and I like having to make those decision points, I like that I can't get to everything. But it is really tempting to try to be like, I want to just absolutely get every relationship to the highest level as quickly as possible. It's also making me more personally adventurous

in my own life. Really? Because it is reminding me that this is a huge fucking city with a bunch of stuff to do. Oh yeah. And so like, when the character is like given the opportunity to go to a batting cage, I'm like, why don't I go to a batting cage? Right. There are batting cages when the character is given the opportunity to go to a batting cage, I'm like,

why don't I go to a batting cage? There are batting cages here. Why don't I go to, I don't have to go to a golf, I don't have to go to an actual green and order, I could just go to a driving range. Like I could do any of this stuff. I'm an adult, I can pay for it and I can go do the things. So it's been encouraging me to take more, I don't know, small adventurous risks. Like cooking a

different meal than I've ever cooked. Just like whatever. I'm just like, oh there's infinite opportunity in this city, especially for somebody of such extraordinary privilege. I might as well take advantage of it. On the batting cages, anytime I'm like, oh yeah, batting cage, this'll be fun, and then I go there and I just get absolutely shelled by the pitching machine. I forget, oh, this is fucking hard.

I have been playing baseball. I don't think I've mentioned this on this show, I don't think. And I've been wanting to get out to a batting cage, but I'm scared. Yeah. Because they only throw heat. They do, yeah.

I don't know what to do. Yeah, and I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, you're holding the bat the wrong way. What if we... I got it in my mouth. Yeah. Oh. What if we went to a batting cage

and that was what we played for a week? Yeah, if you want to go, I will happily go with you. All right, I'm in. Yeah, let's do it. Yes. There's one in Burbank, we can go. Great, let's go. Yeah. I'm not excited about getting destroyed by Heather at the bad occasion.

Hahaha! Nick, what have you been playing? Thank you so much for asking. So here's the thing. We're on the eve of Death Stranding 2. And as far as big games go, I need to set aside a chunk of my life for that. So there are some meaty games that I was like, I was thinking back into, but I was like, I'm not going finish, you know,

Clare Obscurid in one week. Like, it's just not gonna happen. So I'm gonna be like, I'll put those aside. And obviously I got my Bellatro time, which is kind of like my Fortnite for now. But there was a major update to Hades 2. And I've been trying so hard not to play this game until 1.0 comes out. But this update was sprawling enough where I was like,

ah, fuck it, I'm just going to get back in there. Whenever a year this game comes out, and I'm increasingly starting to think it might hit 2025, because this is just an incredible amount of content and so much polish for something that's still technically in early access I mean I felt this from when Hades 2 first went into early access I was like this is like better than a lot of retail games. Yeah, it's like released full price and anyway, I Think whatever year this comes out

This will just be my favorite game of that year And and it's the first time where I'm kind of feeling like, fuck, Haiti's one of my favorite games ever. This might actually just end up being better. And it's tough to get into the details of this because I don't want to get in a spoiler country because I know there are people like me who are like trying to avoid anything to do with this game until it's officially released. But it is just so cool. And you're always a little bit... But it is just so cool and you're always a little bit... I mean, it's failed so many times when they've switched to a new protagonist for a new entry in the franchise.

It's kind of a tough thing to pull off, but I don't know, I think it's working here. And I don't know, man, I just love the aesthetic of this game. I love the music in it. They've added more voice acting. They've added some more flourishes on the artwork, like the portraits of Alman plused up a little bit.

And they've added some more gameplay elements, which again, I won't get into too much. But if you've played Hades 1 into depth, it's the same sort of things in terms of your arsenal and how you can use it. Yeah, I mean, it's just... I'd bet you play around a little Hades 2 as well. Yeah, I mean, I haven't touched it since the initial launch of the early access. But I've been tracking the progress and I'm very, very excited about it.

A hotly anticipated Switch 2 title for me, I gotta say. But I'll probably also... I have it on Steam already. Because I bought the early access. So I'll be double-dipping, because I love the game so much. I always engage in the story of any game, because that's part of it, but sometimes the story is like whatever, in the story of any game, because that's part of it, but sometimes the story is like whatever, and especially in a lot of rogue lights,

the story is pretty, I feel like it's often non-existent, but other times just pretty superfluous, but the story is so engaging in this immediately, and I don't know, I just feel like super giant games just whatever their pipeline is for development they're just like doing it better than like any developer like not just in the indie space like any developer out there yeah and yeah just this is getting me even more hype for the 1.0 and also kind of tidying me over before another big two a Death Stranding 2 on the horizon

another is wearing a Death Stranding 2 t-shirt it's very cool Death Stranding 2 on the horizon. And Heather's wearing a Death Stranding 2 t-shirt. It's very cool. Death Stranding 2 on the beach. Oh, that sounds fun. Which, on the beach. Which I got at the Death Stranding 2 premiere here in Los Angeles. Nick, the stuff that we saw was a fucking nightmare.

I just read a thing actually from our close good friend Hideo Kojima that after initial testing of the game It tested too well, and he didn't like that so he went and changed some stuff People like it too much It's a DJ Khaled ass shit to say. This track is too good, I had to make it less than glist good. I had to get back in there, they liked it too much. iTunes had to put on their extra powerful servers for all the downloads my music is getting. Fucking liar.

And I hate eating pussy. Guys, should we talk about this week's topic? The Nintendo Switch 2 welcome tour. So we were talking about this and we obviously have done some Switch 2 content. We all have Switch 2s at this point. Sam was saying he's interested in getting one. I might get one, yeah. Do you have a Switch 1? No I don't.

Wow. What's your console situation? The only console I have right now is Xbox 360. Holy shit! You'll love the Switch 2. I think I love Nintendo games and yeah, I think it would be great to have. And if it's your first foyer into the Switch 1 library, you have so many great, great bangers to play. That's what I was almost going to offer, because now I've got some Switch 1s collecting dust, if you want one want one of those to Depend on a little bit. Please yeah, I'll let you borrow it On it, that's what I wanted to ask for nights not good on switch one. It is pretty good on switch

Oh, are you wait? Are you for tonight guy? I've my friend has a ps5 and we've been playing the galactic battle There was the Star Wars. Yeah, yeah Yeah, okay, and we just trade off but I have been getting into that a little bit So I don't know that's encouraging Fucking great game. Switch 1 Fortnite is pretty bad, right? It's dog shit. So Switch 2 might be the way to go.

But Switch 2 is a really good experience. Yeah, I got in there just to see, like, it's a pretty seamless, I mean it's one-to-one, it feels great. Yeah, and the Switch 2 also has a LAN port on the machine itself, so you don't have to worry about wireless signals and ping. Anyway, we were discussing internally, hey, we should do something about the Nintendo Switch 2 since it's out. Doing a comprehensive console overview feels like it's kind of like enough of those exist right now.

What are we really gonna add to the Mario Kart world discourse? Why don't we dig in on this weird fucking thing, the Nintendo Switch 2 welcome tour, which is one of the launch titles that is inexplicably not a pack-in, is 9.99. It's insane that it can be called a launch title. I know, it's worked out for them because apparently one of the best-selling titles

on the Switch 2. People have on different forums or Reddit said, when are they ever going to return to the old format? Right. Which used to be worst and weirdest. Well guys, this is a weird fucking title. Definitely falls under the weirdest umbrella. How did this get played days?

Yeah. You're talking about the Landport. I learned a lot about the Landport playing this game. I'll tell you what. I can't wrap my head around Welcome Tour. I unlocked every area. I started by playing it like 100%ing each area as I went, and then I was like, I'm never gonna,

this is gonna take me for fucking ever. And so then I just, okay, we should tell the audience what this game is. You are a little tiny person. You're just a little guy. Here's the, and I know what you're thinking. I know what the listener's thinking, and I just gotta get in here before they think too much more.

You're not even thinking about exactly how little, the amount of how small your thinking is wrong, and actually you're kind of dumb for thinking that's how little is. It's littler than that. You're so fucking tiny, and the character selection screen at the beginning of the game is a long line into an expo. And you pick out who in the line you are,

and then you go into this expo, which is an enormous Switch 2 and its accessories, laid out like a fucking museum theme park experience, and you walk around in and on the Switch 2, learning, taking quizzes, playing mini games, finding lost and found objects and returning them to the information booth. And it is, if Sony's version of this is Astro Bot,

this is the most Nintendo version of what this is that there could be. It is part brain training, part Mario Paint, it is a fucking weird little piece of software. It's the, you know, the Astro's Playroom specifically equivalent of that, which was just a pack-in, which was just bundled with the PlayStation 5 and is such a great tour of the hardware. But here, yes, you're right, in a Nintendo way, it's getting weirdly way too granular.

Like there's less of a game here than Astro's Playroom, but also kind of also way more content than Astro's Playroom at once. There is, you'll spend, no joke, two solid minutes learning about the development of a hinge. Yes. You'll take like five lessons, like text lessons, laid out in, and I would call the design language very similar to Google's Matter, like it's that, or whatever that Google, the way that Android got reskinned a few years ago, it's got like a very flat aesthetic, very like

pieces of paper laid on top of each other. And you take these quizzes on the surface of the Joy-Con or on the surface of the screen or inside of the console. And it'll be like five, one minute pieces of information with little videos describing how the Joy-Cons lock into the system. Yes. And the engineering of the hinge in between them. And then you take a quiz about it.

One, makes me really appreciate the system. Yeah, all the craftsmanship involved, everything from the technical side. But two, it's fucking weird. It's like edutainment, but for information you don't need to know. You know what I mean? Yes.

It's like this isn't teaching me math, this isn't teaching me about history or geography, this isn't teaching me a skill like typing, this is just teaching me all the technical details of this piece of hardware. It's teaching me that underneath each button there is a solid metal dome that's deformed and creates a closed circuit in order to make

the button presses registered by the main CPU. So recently on a GetAnimate, I revealed that I was not a great student, which Nick was not shocked by. I had to really, really focus and try really, really hard when I was playing this game, because it hits you with a lot of information, and you, like, my impulse while playing a video game

is to click through menus and stuff, and just kind of get to whatever I'm supposed to be actually doing. You cannot do that with this, because you will miss critical information, and then fail a voluntary quiz. I think you have to play, like, I think this is one of those games, it's like a fucking Blueprints,

where it's actually helpful to have a little notepad to write some stuff down, because yes, I definitely, when I was hit with, you fail a quiz and what does it just say, unsuccessful? Unsuccessful. It makes you feel bad. Brutal. It's so brutal, And then also there's, but there's, this game toys with you emotionally as well

because even when you succeed, it says success, right, or something, and there's like a check mark, but that check mark does not come fast enough. When you submit your answers, it's like two seconds. And it's, did I get it wrong? Am I right? And then you see the check go through

and it says success and then you're happy. But oh man, a brutal wait. It is a baffling, charming piece of software that is the most Nintendo thing that I have experienced in years, because you're befuddled. Yes. It's so weird what it's doing and that you pay to do it.

A lot of the... You mentioned like brain training and some other like DS things. And like even the text boxes and some of the other stuff that you see in things, it's giving me big time DS UI vibes, which I appreciate. But then, so there's the quiz elements as well, but then you also have, you're walking around the surface area of the various parts of the Switch. Let me interrupt and say it also reminds me of Wii Fit.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The faceless humans. That kind of, yeah, that kind of like aesthetic and interface, but continue. Yeah, so you're walking around and you're encouraged to go up to all of the buttons or just anything that has, there's these little things that pop up that are like little marquees that tells you what it is. And you get a sticker stamp. You get a little stamp. And let me tell you something about these stamps.

I need to get every single one of them. Because you need them to get them to open the next area. But sometimes they're not so easy to find. They're not exactly where you think they might be. Yes. Yeah, it is a hunt where you're a little tiny person running around on. Again, very, very, very small. Very tiny.

You're so little. Very tiny. Running around on... Again, very, very, very small. Very tiny. You're so little. Very tiny. Running around on each individual... So you begin on like the... I think it's the right Joy-Con area, which is a detached giant floating right Joy-Con. You have to go up and identify each element of the right Joy-Con. The home button, the capture button if it's on that side The or maybe it's the chat button the little X the all the individual buttons and then at each station

There's a little quiz booth That teaches you about the engineering of the thing often with a little bit of Nintendo history Well, you'll be like hey This analog stick is different from the Nintendo Switch one analog stick in that it springs back to the middle, but Nintendo has been making analog sticks since 1996. Here is a couple of photos of all the analog sticks that have ever been on Nintendo hardware.

Then there is a mini game, usually in the same area, set up like a booth at a museum and The mini games are fucking frustrating. They are yes because most of them are mouse Based mini games yes that starting with the mouse I think is just such a misstep in terms of the way This is paced out because the mouse is so clunky to you. Yeah. And it's also like a feature I feel like a lot of people just... You don't even necessarily need to learn about it. It feels like it's going to be pretty niche implementation

of mouses on Switch hardware. To my experience in this piece of software, and I would say I'm probably 75% complete, in this piece of software, and I would say I'm probably 75% complete, I would also say 80% of the mini games are fucking mouse-based. They are click on something as fast as you can, avoid objects, some of them are using the rumble feature

to describe the shape of an object that you can't see and then choosing it out of a menu. Yes. I hated that one. I fucking hated that one. That one was mean. That one was hard. But then it'll also suddenly-

It's hard and it's unrewarding. Yeah, you don't get anything. You don't get anything. And it's like, I don't need to know what the, I just, for me, I don't need to know what a shape feels like. Sure. That's me, I don't need to know. But there was one demo,

because there are also demos, and the demos will be like, hey, can you tell the difference? No, I guess that's a mini game. It'll be like, hey, did you know that the Joy-Cons can make sound because of the rumble engine, whatever the fuck they call it, can vibrate so frequently that it can create a sonic sound.

And then you'll hear through vibration the joystick make the one-up sound. And it's staggering when it happens. That was a really crazy one. Even the maracas one was also crazy. I like the maracas. Maracas are fun. Maracas are great.

Maracas are my amigo. He loves maracas. But then there are also things where it's like, hey, here's a mini game where you have to try and determine the frame rate of a thing that you're looking at. And at first, the easy version of it is, is it 30 or is it 60?

Is it 60 or is it 120? And you can kind of get through that without making an error. But then you increase the difficulty and it's like, what are you looking at? 20 frames per second or 40 frames per second? What are you, and it's a ball flying across the screen fast. And then it's like, what are you looking at? 110 frames per second or 120 frames per second.

And it's a little like, what am I gaining by spending all my time doing this? Yeah, as a user, like, my, what I want as a, as someone who's playing a video game, is I just want it to look smooth. I just want a frame rate that makes this game, that puts this game in its most playable state. Like me being able to divine what the frame count is,

that's not a skill idea. That's a thing I could put in a console command on PC and just see what the frame rate is. I could just learn that information. I just want it to look good. And so, again, I don't know why me having the, being able to pass the eye test, why do I gain anything from that?

Yeah, some of the, a lot of the games are not really games, they're, they feel, I mean, they feel like tests in the way that the quizzes are quizzes, right? They're tests for you! Yes, and so the only outcome is you either pass and you can do it, or you feel bad. You feel stupid. And so like the, I was saying the one that I happened, there's some of them though that

are like, I guess just depending on who you are or something, like they are easier. Like I got, because they're also on these ones too, that these games will have medals. And so you get the medals for achieving the goal in a certain amount of time, and each one is like faster than the previous one. So it'll be like 20 seconds, 15 seconds, 10 seconds or whatever. Can you move the mouse across the screen

and click this button in less than 0.4 of a second? Yes, and so sometimes you can, and it'll tell you when you fail how close you got to getting it, which is incredibly frustrating. But one of the ones that I got correctly and got all three medals first try was this pixel hunting one,

where there are five pixels, you have it docked on your TV, and my TV is probably seven feet away from my couch, maybe eight feet away from my couch. Let me interrupt and say that the only way to enter into this particular test is that you have to previously own a 4K television. Yeah, you have to own a 4K TV. You have to own a TV in order to play this part of this software that you just paid for.

Which also, the Nintendo Switch 2, teaching me all sorts of things, teaching me about the LAN port, the HDMI port, the refresh rate of the screen, also told me that my television, not 120 hertz compatible. So now I hate my TV, now I gotta get a new TV. Are you sure you didn't go, cause there is, on my TV, it's not default allowed,

it's not allowed to show me 120 frames, and then you go into the menu and you can toggle it. Don't do it. You bought a 60 hertz TV? Not recently. So this is a TV you've had for a while. It is 4K, but it's not 120 hertz. Yes, yes, yes.

Okay, then that tracks. Yeah, I've had it for probably like, what, six months? Just kidding. I've had it for like five years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, there's the- 120 hertz is new. I mean it for like five years or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, there's the... 120 hertz is new.

I mean, you could've gotten, probably could've gotten... Probably could've gotten it then, but for $2,000 or something. Would've been better to bring him, yeah. And you're dealing with, you know, not a ton of console games are necessarily in supporting 120 FPS at the time. That's like it?

Yeah. But I got all five of the pixels that are floating around the screen, got all three medals first try, and then I felt really good about my eyes. Let me, again, explain what Matt is talking about just a little bit for the listener who doesn't want to spend $10 to learn this stuff

about their own television. Yeah. On your screen, the Nintendo Switch 2 generates five individual pixels on your 4K television that are sort of yellow against a red background. Nearly impossible to see. And you have to find them while a clock is ticking in order to solve the test.

Yes. Which rewards you with nothing. Yes, it rewards you with nothing. And I think the fastest time that they had was something like 40 seconds. Got all five in 23. There's a version of Super Mario Brothers when they're illustrating to you how big 4K is,

compared to the original output pixel rate of the Nintendo, the original NES. There is a version of Mario Bros. that is to scale on your 4K television, which, as tiny as you are in the game, Mario's even tinier. It's too scaled to the little right. Yeah, it's 200 pixels or whatever across. So you run the length of the first level, world one-one of the original Super Mario Brothers

as a straight line across your screen with none of the original Super Mario Bros. as a straight line across your screen. Yes. With none of the screen disappearing, in order to illustrate that you can put all of the first level of Super Mario Bros. on a 4K screen, it won't even reach across it. Yeah. Which... is cool. I liked it. I couldn't complete it, though. I couldn't complete that demo for some reason.

There's one of the... Each demo comes with a list of tasks that you can do, and I can do most of them, but there was one task that I had to explore every... I maybe had to do everything in one go or something. Yeah, I couldn't do it. Yeah. How annoying is it that this costs money?

Because again, if this is free, all of its little quirks are kind of like, oh, well, that's part of its charm, it's just Nintendo being weird, but just also that it's $10. I'm trying to $10 for this. I have two minds of this. I mean, first of all, collectively, the three of us, we spent your favorite amount of money. $30!

Second, I cannot condone Nintendo charging $10 for this. At the same time, I think it's worth spending $10 on. Like, I think it's dumb that it costs that much money and it should have been free at the same time. I think if you're curious about it, it is worth spending the money on. Right, if what we're talking about,

if going inside of a Joy-Con and learning about each individual chipset, or learning about how they re-engineered the left and right buttons on the top of the game controller because the controller is larger than the original Switch, if all of that information is interesting to you, as it is for me, because my brain sucked all this information up

like a sponge. Like I was just like, oh wow, look at the way there's travel on this hinge. Yeah. I want to 100% this game, and I want to do it so much that when I saw that you had to have the camera in order to do one of the sub games, I instacarted the fucking camera myself. Well, and so that's an interesting thing too, right?

I feel like there's been a lot of coverage of this, that there are certain things that you need accessories for to complete in the game, but I believe there is a system within this game, to call it a game. That's the other thing, like what is this? What is this? What is this?

I like that we all are like kind of mad, but also having fun. I'm glad it exists, but it makes no sense. That's where I'm at. It's not really a game, right? So there's a system within this experience I think is the verbiage I'll land on there. Where if you don't have a 4K TV,

if you don't have the camera, if you don't have some other fucking thing you might need for this. The steering wheel. Yeah, I don't have the wheels. I don't have some other fucking thing you might need for this. The steering wheel. Yeah, I don't have the wheels. I don't have the wheel. Guess who's getting the fucking wheel? Oh God.

There's a thing in the game that they'll give you the stamp for it or something. Right, you hold down Y or something near the information booth and it's like, or near the demo area and it'll give you the stamp even if you don't have the equipment. Yes. But give you the stamp even if you don't have the equipment. Yes. But then you miss out on,

so when you bought the Game Boy Camera, there was a little pack-in piece of software with it that let you make faces and make stamps and shit. And it was like, oh cool, this is the demo of the Game Boy Camera. In the same way, the camera mini game, the first one that I played on the Switch 2 welcome tour, is a thing where you have to match the face

that a 3D emoji is making. Yes. Using your camera and your own face, and then you get graded on how similar you are to making that face with this emoji. And I have never been more aware of where my eyebrows are on my face and how little control I have over them. As somebody who also has just watched all of the rehearsal, this one made me very nervous.

I was having a hard time with this. I'm not ever very aware of where my eyebrows are at any given point it turns out. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, is that a surprised face? What does surprise feel like on my face? How do I make the eyebrows go where I need them to go? I thought they were all mad at me. So I don't have the camera.

How much camera content is there? So far that was the only thing that I needed the camera like actually for and then it's like information about the camera I was I mean here's the thing in the camera area. There's a fucking mouse game So like I don't know if the camera games are gonna come up ever again When I get to the camera area and played the camera game, and I was like here. We fucking go Yeah, now we're now we're doing Nintendo stuff. stuff. And then the next one was a mouse game. I almost threw my Switch across the fucking room. Oh, and this is another annoying part of playing this.

Obviously, you need to do this because it is showcasing all the different ways to play the thing. I played this for a good chunk today, for like a few hours today straight. To just have enough of an experience that, I'm getting up, I'm pulling the thing out of the dock, I'm re-docking it, I'm disconnecting the Joy-Cons,

I'm putting the mouse, I'm doing so much stuff. That's another thing, it's making you do a lot physically with your Switch 2. I was like, stop making me do so much stuff. That's another thing that it's making you do a lot physically with your Switch 2. I was like stop making me do so much stuff. It's a little honestly it's like a little nerve-wracking to me. I'm playing a game I'm supposed to detach the Joy-Cons mid-game and I guess put my like you know I'm playing a handheld mode I gotta put my system somewhere. You know what I mean like you're doing these things with like this brand new piece of hardware that you spent $500 on. Yeah. I don't know don't know, I don't want to be

manhandling this thing for a bunch of different tasks. It was tough, and then, I will say that hinge on the back, the stand, I think it's fucking sturdy. The hinge is slick. Well, the stand is slick, it works very well. There is a mini game that utilizes the stand, and that's one of the games where I was like, oh thank God I'm not fucking playing with the mouse the mini game is what angle is your switch at?

Yeah. It tells you like try and do like a 35 degree angle with your switch and you look it shows you a picture of it and you just got to like take the stand and bend it out a little bit and then set your your switch down on your and be like, I guess that's 35 degrees? But I'd rather do that than another fucking mouse game. That one legitimately impressed me. I was like, how does it know? I loved that one. It is kind of dazzling.

But again, to what end? Why am I doing this? It's just... Okay, it's not edutainment. No. It is like a corporate compliance software. Yes. It is creating...

HR is making you play this when you start a new job. Right, but it's...in the way that Sony has figured out that Astrobot creates brand synergy between you and your PlayStation. It makes you, anthropomorphize your PlayStation. It makes you love your physical piece of hardware

because Astro Bot's showing you stuff that you used to love and taking you on this tour inside of your system. Nintendo is trying to do the exact same thing and they are doing it like somebody who doesn't know how to eat your cutery at a party. Like they are like manhandling like pretzels and like being like boy parties are fun, aren't they? And you're like, I don't know if I'm enjoying having this conversation. If you're a company and you want to create brand identification and brand loyalty, Sony does it by charming you with a little guy.

Yes. Nintendo does it by making you take a test. Yeah, homework. Right, no, Astro's Playroom reverts you to childhood with like the unbridled joy of running around a playground. Yeah. And the welcome tour reverts you to childhood with the feeling of having to go up to the blackboard to spell a word.

It's boring and confusing and anxiety inducing. Like it's a weird, it's just a profoundly weird experience. But also weirdly compelling. But also, weirdly compelling. It's kind of compelling. Like you want to keep going and like exploring it. I think the aesthetics are really charming. Like I really like to look at this game. I love the isometric thing.

Didn't touch on the character selection screen, which for my ass, just the default. I remember it. I do, I do. Before. One guy with a buzz cut and shorts like immediately day one booting this up. Yes What two weeks ago now at this point first guy? See I take a screenshot and I go found Nick and Which I think you responded what the hell Which I think you responded, what the hell? It's also like the awkward attempt of somebody who's really proud of what they've done to

tell you all of the stuff that they've done. But like the language that they use and the way they present it, like when you think about like what's his name? Johnny Ive? Johnny Ivy? The guy who used to give the speeches about iPhones when they would come out And he'd be like what we've done is we've wrapped it in titanium But we've machine manufactured it so it's as silky as a glove remember like that guy

Yeah, well this is like somebody being like with the deep the deep head is really good now guys The D-Pad is really good now, guys. And we did so much work on the D-Pad. It's the video game equivalent of me explaining to my family at the holidays what a podcast is. Yeah, I mean, we made a lot of comparisons to Astro's Playroom. I think another comparison that I've seen some other people make and I think is useful to draw on because it's another Nintendo first-party game that was a pack-in and was a full-fledged game and was fun Wii Sports. In terms of showing off what the hardware could do, Wii Sports was like the perfect showpiece. This is like the complete opposite. It's just it's it's it's it's in many ways just not even a game. But Wii Sports was not telling you

how the remote worked. Right. It was it was giving you something to do with it. This is like that I keep harping on the hinge because the amount of times I had to look at the way the Joy-Cons snap into the actual console was staggering. Why do I care? Because if you retain the information, you're like, oh, when Heather came in last week, she was like, I'm a little worried about the travel on the magnetic Joy-Cons because it doesn't feel stable. And there is a fucking test about how that's on purpose,

good for the system, and makes it stronger. Yeah, and they're basically like, you couldn't fucking break this if you tried. Yeah, it's like we thought about all of these things so specifically, and we engineered solutions for them, that the give you feel in the Joy-Cons is there to protect the connection. We made this console with the people in mind, with people in mind who an egg shatters at the mere touch of it.

Don't! That's not... It said it in there. I'm getting better at eggs. I believe it. Insane thing to say. Which part? Mine or her? I'm getting better at eggs. I believe it. Insane thing to say.

Which part? Mine or her? I'm getting better at eggs in isolation. I am. I'm getting better at them. Yeah, what are you using, a strainer? For what? For the shell? I only had one piece of shell in one of my eggs this week. Hey, that's pretty good. And I didn't have any that I,

I've gotten a little bit better. I believe it. But I'm also, I've discovered a new thing, which is when I hard boil an egg, somehow when I'm taking the shell off of it, I destroy the egg in the process of removing the shell. I'm just gonna leave that one alone, because I just don't know what to do with it yet.

How are you with crab legs? What? Well, because that's also shell removal. Yeah. But it's like you can be a little bit more destructive and I feel like your ability to exert a lot of force might actually be useful there. I've never had an issue with crab legs.

Okay, so that's easy for you to extract the crab meat. Should we get a crab sometime? Long piece of meat. God, that'd be such a funny move. A bunch of king crab in here, ordered from Hooters. From Biggs, Bibs. Nintendo Switch 2 welcomes two who are sitting at 55 on Metacritic. 3.6 user score generally unfavorable, so definitely a lot

of mixed reactions to this piece of software. I think for me, that's low. That's still a little too low for what I think this is. I know that there's things to nitpick and things to view cynically because this, I think, is a cynical presentation. Is it? It's not joyful. But it also feels very earnest.

It's very earnest, I guess. Yeah, but I guess it's not... It's not... I don't think this was designed with fun in mind. Yeah, that's what I'm almost wondering is, like, was this designed to be a pack-in? Yeah. And then they see what it is, what the finished product is, or they see what direction it's heading during development, or like, all right, let's make this a little curiosity

that people can pay for, but we're not gonna have this be front and center, be the first game that people boot up on this by default. I wonder. I wondered as well, I think if this was Nintendo Switch 2, Wario presents Welcome Tour. And it's a WarioWare-style game showing you how the various elements of the Nintendo Switch 2 works. That's immediately more fun and interesting to me.

I don't care about learning. Also sounds like a video game. Yeah. Every person, every NPC you talk to in this game Every person, every NPC you talk to in this game is having the same sort of strange experience that you are as a player. That is, I picked up on this as well because I talked to somebody who was looking at one of the Joy-Cons going into the thing, and he's looking at it like, huh, I didn't know it could go in like that. And I'm like, you fucking idiot. Like, they're also like, wow, the screen sure is slippery. Yeah.

I guess that's really good. Like... Which I actually don't understand. Because is that supposed to be good? Like, I guess for finger traveling? I'm not touching... I hate touching the screen. So you didn't do the ten finger game? I know, and I did it, and I immediately then like, wiped it off clean.

Because I hate that. I hate touching. I hate touching. I never once wanted to touch the Switch One screen. One of the games, dear listener, is a game where it says, hey, the Nintendo Switch screen can differentiate between ten different simultaneous finger presses. So why don't you play Twister with your fingers? And it's a like a grid of different colored circles and it'll be like okay first finger put on a pink circle and then green then blue etc and you have to try and strategize where your fingers are going to go in order to get all ten of your

digits pressed against the switch to screen simultaneously. There's also like a HDR SDR thing, which is another thing of just like the FPS one of like, I don't know why, I just want it to look good. Like I don't necessarily need to know the difference between these things at a glance. Yeah, I think that's probably, they're probably just being like, look how shitty it was before actually. They're trying to show it off, but it's was before actually. They're trying to show it off, but it's just like, this is an odd way to show it off,

to present it this way. Okay, I figured out what the game is. One, the game is directly for me. Two, it is an episode of Get Played that's game intel. Yeah. And the game intel is, as if I was doing an episode on the pocket station me just walking through all of the different things that the pocket station can do and the oddity

of its release and the fact that it wasn't brought out in the West is Nintendo being like hey did you know that there was and this is from the game, did you know that there was a screen, that there was a way to put your Wii U controller on a table not unlike the way that the Switch 2 can sit on a table? Look at the evolution of how we've done handheld game pads over the history of Nintendo. That was the most interesting stuff to me, which was like when they would just show how iterative they've been over the years.

Because like that is, I don't know, it's cool to see stuff like that. If this was just like a museum that I could have gone to instead, I think I would have liked that more. Yeah, honestly even... Even the element of just, if they just remove the gating, and you can just sort of free roam, and just sort of explore at your own leisure and not feel like, well, shit, I need to progress through this area to unlock the next biome so I can play some more mini games. Yeah.

Play. Yeah, because, I mean, gosh, the ones that I didn't get all the medals for, I have no desire to go back for. I did like the golf one. Love the golf one. The golf one is nice. Right. The also the difficulty curve on these mini games is absurd.

Yes. And the amount of things you have to unlock in order to unlock the top tier of the mini games. Yeah. in order to unlock the top tier of the mini games. Like, you get like two little medals for successfully completing a mini game to your maximum ability. Like, it's like, wow, you clicked that button in less than 0.4 of a second, you get two medals.

Some of these fucking areas are asking for like 80 medals. Yeah, right. And you're like, what am I gonna have to play in order to unlock? Yeah. Are there 40 mini games in this fucking thing? I've just already made the deal with myself that I'll just never know what those ones are.

I have no interest. I'm gonna 100% this fucking thing. I'm gonna get the wheel not for Mario Kart, but for Nintendo Switch welcome tour But yeah, it's it's kind of like erratic in terms of the difficulty to yeah It's like someone's like like okay this one beat a beat a child in tic-tac-toe And then over here you got a catch a mosquito in your eyelashes. You know I mean it's like you gotta catch a mosquito in your eyelashes. You know what I mean? It's like, it's truly a baffling experience.

It's wild. Yeah. Also to find out after I get the Nintendo Switch camera that it works with any USB camera. Yes, yeah. Shocking. Whoever wants to do this, make a USB-C Game Boy camera.

They'll procure some money. Wait, you can totally do that. You can do that with an analog pocket. Yeah, oh, interesting. Use that. Oh, I wonder if that would work. Because I've output the analog pocket through my computer, through USB, into Zoom.

When you go home tonight, see if that works. Wait, so I can just plug my Razer webcam into the Switch 2 and it'll work? Yeah, they said not every camera works, but if it doesn't work, it's on the camera side. You should be able to do it. Like these cameras wouldn't work. Right.

It's too much. The camera's in the studio. Yeah, the camera's in the studio. Yeah, that would be overkill. I was shocked that the, because when I was like, oh, I gotta get a camera, I'll get the piranha plant camera, because it's Horrie's made little piranha plant

that's got the camera inside it. Very cute. But it's only 480p. Yeah, dumb. Yeah, it's... I wanted that one so bad, and the fact that it was worse, even though the official one is not much better,

I just couldn't do it. Why would you do this? The only good thing about that one though is that the stem of the plant with the camera in it is detachable from the base so you could instead of taking the whole thing away you could just take that part out and plug it directly into the top of the switch. That is cool. Oh Side note. Yes. The way that the camera attaches to the Switch 2 is dog shit. It sucks.

It connects to the USB-C port on the top of the Switch. Now, why is that important? It's so that you can be playing in handheld mode and have the camera sitting on a table in front of you. Sure. Aesthetically, it's the worst thing I've ever looked at. Yeah, it's really unfortunate because you would want it to be... I don't want to be plugging it and unplugging it every time I want to use it. I would like it to be plugged into the dock and then just have it be done. And then that's that.

But they want you to be able to play it in table mode and game chat with your friends. So they make the worst but most pragmatic decision to make it stick out of Not the center of the top of your console, but slightly off sides Yeah, like a big thick black hair Like as if your switch is a face and it has one hair It has one hair Pikmin yeah almost fucking ugly shit an ugly Pikmin. I don't know I love this. I love this awkward They're all kind of ugly

Pick me in a cute under a weird looking. I guess they're bug adjacent aren't they yeah? Thanks, they're cute. I don't know. I don't like you didn't know the splatoon Freaks Captain Ollomar Mars not cute. Who's that? Main Pikmin guy, I don't know any of them. I just know you're trying to drop Pikmin on me You know fucking know the game. I know what the little guys look like and I know that they're Pikmin I that's all I need to know I don't like the way Pikmin look cuz it looks like they're being squeezed out of a tube Yeah, I don't like that. I saw my I don't like it. What's his name? Captain Olimar. I gotta get into Pikmin What if you'd like Pikmin? I never really cut clicked with any of those games I was so hyped for the original Pikmin because oh my god a new Miyamoto design

This is like this is gonna be fucking incredible This is gonna be like a Mario or Zelda to your franchise and then mess around like oh no He just got really into gardening and made a weird like RTS, you know. It's fine. I probably won't investigate. I think I'll be all right. But now I know one other character. Pikmin and this other guy.

Captain Olimar. Captain Olimar. Mario backwards. He's a fucking genius. That's amazing. Anything else to say about the Nandendo Switch 2 welcome tour? It sucks. It doesn't suck. It's just a bummer of a thing. But I do enjoy it, is the thing. I give it a big thumbs down because I just, like, is there anyone outside of people like us who like like

sickos yeah exactly like like true freaks who are into curiosities you could like like as someone buys a switch to and is like like because a lot of casual gamers are gonna buy this this hardware you know like like hey does someone like Sam is like oh maybe we'll get a switch to there's no reason to say like hey Sam go get the net you know what? You want to learn about your Switch 2. You want to learn how the internal hardware is working. Go ahead and pick up the Welcome Tour. That would not make any sense for him to spend his money and time on that.

I mean, even though the other point of comparison, the main point of comparison is Astro's Playroom. Yeah. I don't know. And obviously, I think that's a recommendable experience, right? Everyone should play Astro's Play. You get a PlayStation 5, it's the first thing you should do. Boot that up like I think that's a recommendable experience right everyone should play Astros play You get a place these guys like the first thing you do boot that up and run around have a great time There is yeah to your point. There is no reason to be like oh you got switch to you got to check out welcome tour Yes, yes, there's no reason to do it

but like if you're gonna switch to I'm my first recommendation is just Play a fucking video game play any game any game you want. Yeah, you probably got the bundle with a Mario Kart Yeah, just play Mario Kart. I'm I'm not trying to be contrarian here I really think this game was made exclusively for me. I don't know anybody else like here's what I would say Yeah, if you knew me and I got the switch too. Yeah, then you should tell me You've got to get welcome to her. No. Yeah, I mean also like I Am gonna finish it also like I'm not gonna 100% it but I wanted to see it all the way if if Nintendo releases a USB

Tau-let I'm going to get it And it'll be like yeah, it heats it up slightly to make it easier to clean your screen That's I am the target demo for that. Yeah, absolutely. I'm the target demo for a welcome tour in 20 years it will be like the 3ds Louvre tour. Mm-hmm, right where it's like What what what was happening here? Who's what series of decisions were made in order to make it that the audio tour at the Louvre for a decade? You had to carry around a 3ds, right? You know what would give this game a lot more? I would give this game a lot more grace

If like someone if any of the characters were just walking around or like you could talk to them and they tell you, Kirby's telling you about- That would be fun, yeah. Populate it with some Nintendo IP instead of all these generic looking clones. Yeah, yeah, Kirby's telling you about the refresh rate of the screen or whatever. Yes.

Link is telling you all about the land port. Instead of this feeling like a mix between a train terminal and purgatory. Like, have some fun within it. I have a screen cap here from the second Magnetic Connector Insights quiz. The question is, I wonder if either of you will get this one. What happens to the SLSR buttons on the Joy-Con 2 controllers when they're attached to the Nintendo Switch 2 console? A. They become easier to press. B. They harden. C. They stick out a bit. D. They sink down a bit.

They stick out a bit. Yeah, I know it said they stick out a bit. I'm sorry, the answer is E. Who gives a shit? But also, somehow that information's in our brain right now. I know this stuff now. I know this about the Switch. Your great uncle's name exiting. North Dakota.

I think I know where it is. The Switch 2 works on the CEC protocol in order to activate your 4K television. I know it. Well, should we do a segment real quick? Let's do a segment. We're already here basically. Yeah, might as well. Since we all played through a bit of the game,

I have compiled some of the quiz questions from the various quizzes throughout the game to see how much of the information you retained. I'll read the question, you have to tell me the answer. Buzz you with your answer. And all of these in the game are multiple choice. I only have the correct answers in front of me. Some of the joke answers in those multiple choices were charming. It would be like, what's inside of the D-pad on the Switch 2?

And one of the answers would be like mayonnaise. Yeah. And you're like, oh wow, okay. How do you get such and such thing to do such and such thing? Ask it nicely. Yeah. So just buzz in with your name. I don't have the multiple choice answers.

So these are spaces. So these are open-ended. Open-ended. This is gonna be tricky. See if you can just, cause here's the thing We've made a big deal about the quizzes. Yeah, they're pretty easy The quizzes are there

There's usually one Correct seeming answer and the other ones are dumb bullshit like it's mayonnaise or whatever Here we go This first question how does the weight used for the HD Rumble 2 feature move? Heather. Heather. Side to side. Okay, Heather gets a point.

What does the gyroscope allow you to do with the Joy-Con 2 mouse controls? What does the gyroscope allow? Heather. Heather. It allows you to both move it on the surface, but also turn and twist it. I'll give you that. You can rotate what you grab with the mouse is the correct answer. Heather has two. Here's the next question. Still anybody's game.

Where are the magnets that keep the Joy-Con 2 controllers attached to the Switch 2 console located? Weiger. Nick. Mayonnaise. That is correct. two controllers attached to the Switch 2 console located? Weiger. Nick. Mayonnaise. That is correct. Heather. Under the, it's like the SL and SR buttons. No?

That is incorrect. Wow. That is the magnetic plate. Oh. Okay, I didn't hear the question enough. The magnets are in the console. Oh, okay. I didn't hear the question enough. The magnets are in the console. Oh, right! The button itself is the thing that is magnetized to it.

The buttons are steel, and the magnets are in the console. Okay. Here's the next one. What is it about the box that houses the speakers inside of the Nintendo Switch 2 console that helps it produce sound as accurately as possible? Heather. So this could be one of two answers.

It's either that the direction of the piping from the box is faced at a downward angle, or it is that the box itself is padded. Because both of those things help it reduce sound. Both of those things are true. The correct answer is it's tightly sealed on all sides but the front. But I will give you that because you mentioned the padding. Nick, are you having fun?

Was that correct though? Was she right? No, it's got like a little tube out of the front and then the rest of it is... Highly sealed on all sides but the front. I guess you don't get the point. What the fuck? You still have two. Or I guess you have... Yeah, you still have two.

Listener, debate that on Discord. It didn't seem like Nick cared about the game. Now that I'm giving out points willy-nilly, it seems like he does... He's interested in it all of a sudden. He just wants me to lose the thing that I'm having fun with. No, no, no. The aluminum alloy used in the Switch 2 stand is roughly as light and robust as which other material...

Oh, I don't... Weiger. Yeah, weiger. Weiger. Weiger. Weiger. Weiger. Weiger.

Weiger. Weiger. Weiger. We with. No, no, no. The aluminum alloy used in the Switch 2 stand is roughly as light and robust as which other material. Oh, I don't. Weiger. Yes. Titanium. That is incorrect. It is as light and as what?

And robust as which other material. Heather. Spider silk. The correct answer is extra super duralumin. Spider silk. Is it? The correct answer is extra super Duralumin. Of course. I think I had been thinking, I'd been top of mind always until, you know, right before this.

I always thinking about extra super Duralumin. I love the idea that we're gonna get a Nintendo takedown for doing the quiz on the fucking podcast. Giving the fucking podcast. Giving the answers away. Yeah. What is it?

It's equivalent to the material that comprises Wolverine's bones. What is the purpose of the Switch 2 game card's distinct shape? Heather, it is so that the Switch 1 and the Switch 2 cartridges can be determined by the Switch Two. The console uses it to determine the type of game card. That is correct. Wow. It's three on the board for Heather.

The chip and the Switch Two. How many more of these are there? I got a few all from like the beginning. We don't have to do that many more. Nick hates this. He hates this. He gave the game a thumbs down. And now you're making him play it.

The chip in the Switch 2 console that's, I'm just also like, these are funny to read to me because they sound insane. They're so weird. It's a game. What a delightful piece of software. Remember Mario 64? Yes.

The chip in the Switch 2 console that's designed to make voices easier for you to hear, removes sound from the speakers to avoid which phenomenon? Weiger, the Doppler effect. That's incorrect. Heather, feedback. it is feedback back That's kind of like if you know audio. Yeah Yeah, Sam should have written right in there with that one okay, I'll skip ahead to this one, okay How have the L&R buttons been modified to make them satisfying

no matter where you press them? Heather, they're longer now. That's not the correct answer I have in front of me. Okay. Weiger, I'll say they have a beveled underside. That's not it either. The answer will shock you. Two shafts have been added.

That one stood out to me when I was playing it because I'll be honest, the phrase two shafts made me laugh. Hold on, hold on my switch to you now. Oh yeah, I can feel the extra shaft. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Previous switch only has one. The shafts really make a difference. Yeah, yeah. And finally, what do the magnets held within the HD rumble tube parts contain a lot of?

What do the magnets contain a lot of? Yeah. Um, what? No, go ahead. Weiger. Magnet juice. You were so satisfied when you said that. Magnet juice. What is the question? What do the magnets held within the HD Rumble 2 parts

contain a lot of? I think it's polarity. It's like multiple poles in conjunction. Yeah, the answer is north and south poles. So Heather, you win the game. Yay! I actually did find that interesting. I thought it was just one magnet.

It's a magnet with multiple poles. I didn't know you could do that with a magnet. Look, we're still trying to figure out how they work, aren't we? That's this week's Get Played. Our producers are Michelle Chen, Ranchyard, underscore, underscore, stars. Special thanks to Sam Rogich sitting in. Sam, any Guk News? Records coming out end of August.

You know, keep your eyes out there for that. Wow. Nice. Check that out. Our music is by Ben Prunty. BenPruntyMusic.com. Our art is by DecreGateDesign. DecreGate.com. Get played merch at KinshipGoods.com. And check out Get Animated, our sister show on Patreon. Matt, what are we watching this week? We're watching Gurren Lagann and we're almost Gurren La-dun, aren't we?

Oh, it's almost Gurren Lagann. Oh, I'm going to miss it. Patreon.com slash get played. I think this is a rare week where we're the ones that got played, actually. This is a tough week for us. We took a big L with having this experience. I think the Nintendo Switch 2 hardware got played very well. And I know more about it than I ever assumed I would.

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