Get Played - Get Anime'd Unlocked: Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team Episodes 1 & 2

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Matt, Heather and Nick start their next new series: Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team and discuss episodes 1 and 2, "War For Two" and "Gundams in the Jungle". Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team can be streamed on Hulu. Follow us on social media @getplayedpodMusic by David SchmollArt by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com. For ad-free main feed episodes, our complete back catalogue including How Did This Get Played? and our Premium DLC episodes and our exclusive show Get Anime'd go to patreon.com/getplayed. Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at [e-mail] Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. People throwing parties, ugly sweaters everywhere Stockings hung up by the chimney with care It could only mean one thing McRib is here At Participating McDonald's for a limited time I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine

I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine I'm gonna be the one to shine Welcome to Get Animated, the anime watch along podcast with the hosts of Get Played. I'm self-proclaimed Junko's naked death body, Heather Ann Campbell. I'm self-proclaimed N credits porno mag, Nick Weiger.

And I'm self-proclaimed probably out taking a piss, Matt Apodaca. Hello everyone. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premiere anime podcast, where we're back on our shit. Last month, it was Animahem, and we were watching random anime along with you, the listener. That's right. But this month, we're back on the we watched an anime, you watched an anime, and now we're all here to talk about it. And that anime was not my idea. It was not my, I mean, it was my idea, but not my idea.

You didn't create the anime. Well, no, I'm saying that Nick was like, what if we watched Gundam? And he pitched the original 1979 Gundam series. Yeah, because what the fuck do I know? I'm like, why don't we start with the beginning? And I was like, Yeah, what do you know? I'm like why don't we start with the beginning and I was like What do you know I was like in my head immediately?

I was like this is a slippery what nothing gone in my head. I was like this is slippery fish Yeah, I don't want this to get away from me Nick has pitched Gundam So I have to see it through But I also knew that the moment Nick found out that the original series was 51 episodes long That it would get shit canned and we'd be on to something else. So I pivoted and I was like actually You know when I was getting into Gundam at first a friend of the pod zig said you know you could start with two of these smaller series to see if you like it or war in the pocket or The eighth MS team and either War in the Pocket or The 8th MS Team.

And that's what we've decided to watch. That's what we're gonna be discussing over the next six episodes of the podcast, Mobile Suit Gundam, The 8th MS Team, which you can find on Hulu if you wanna watch along. Hulu, baby. I haven't seen this show since I began my Gundam journey. Wow. Wow.

And it was the very first show I watched, and I watched it without context. Yeah. And seeing it again, it is like going back to your favorite recipe and finding that there are so many more ingredients, and the chef knows how to make it better. Oh, interesting. Wow, interesting.

So I am so much more enjoying it than I even did the first time. And so is this, I mean, we'll, I'm sure we'll get into this, because I'm a Gundam novice. I don't know much a Gundam novice. I don't know much about Gundam other than what I hear about it from you when Zig won't leave me alone about it. Is this in the Universal Century timeline?

Yes, it is. OK, interesting. Yes, so you are fully embedded. And I feel like let's save all the Gundam talk for the Gundam part of the episode, which is going to be a chunky healthy boy Nice big boy. Look what daddy did wait what? What the big boy?

What did dad what daddy did daddy look what father has done? What are you guys talking about a big healthy boy? Is that wait is that supposed to be what you say in the delivery room? room I mean I think you can say it the thing you can say if you want are you talking about like a lump of shit what are you talking about it could be that could be that daddy could do that you say look what daddy there's almost no limits to what daddy can do okay daddy can do everything I am I'm uncomfortable and I wish I hadn't called that part of the episode a chunky boy a healthy big chunky boy he's a chunky boy look what daddy did what daddy did

what does that mean I don't like that part I don't ever want to tag that said he's the thing that Nick said daddy's apart a participant in the conception process. So when the baby come out, baby big, and then doctor like, Is this like what daddy did? You dumped out. I dumped out. And made.

The size of a sperm does not indicate the size, it's not like a- Science is unsettled on that. Jumbo sperm. No, no, the bigger the sperm, the bigger the baby, and that's just true How did this go south so fast cuz you asked questions, that's why We could have just kept moving along and now here we are

I'm very excited to get into gun because we have that look the only the only Gundam I've watched is Gundam the origin which was a thing you recommend. It's called the origin, right? The origin well you were gonna watch Gundam in chronological order and that's where you start if it's chronological. Yeah, so I watched that one I just but just like that's my only context for this larger universe I did really enjoy it, but I'm excited to dig into it further We are going to do that in just a bit, but first, the question for the room is,

what have we been weaving? What have we been weaving? Hi, it's me, Ash Ketchum, from the world of Pokemon, and I'm always here to ask the question, what have you been weaving? And why do I ask it? Because I love to choose. And Nick Weiger, I choose you. You're choosing me?

I'm choosing you. Wow, Ash. I thought we would, I thought since we've all seen it, we don't need to get into spoiler country, but I thought we could touch on Furiosa at least because first off, this movie feels like an anime, but it also began development as an anime series. So George Miller, the director,

was working with concept artist, Mahiro Maeda, and there's art you can find from the anime online. I actually can bring it up here if we wanna take a look at it. But it was designed as an anime series. It was going to come out before Fury Road, I believe. They at least had like written it

and had come up with all this context and it's basically just like a bunch of backstory. And if you're watching Furiosa, it does kind of feel like a lore dump at times. You're just like, there's just like a bunch of backstory and if you're watching a furiosa It does kind of feel like a lore dump at times You're just like there's just like a bunch of backstory for the the the movie But before I open up the for the movie fury you're out But then it ends up becoming you know retrofitted as a live-action movie that just came out The one thing I'm going to tee up before we open up discussion is

This is a this is a polygon article, George Miller explains what live action Furiosa kept from the anime version. We'll just read this little excerpt. The only element taken from that concept that actually made it into the final Furiosa film, and unexpected from that concept art rather, this is one character's concept art, an unexpected accessory worn by Chris Hemsworth,

villainous wasteland warlord Dementus. The imposing figure wears a teddy bear chained to his body and placed it on his vehicle dashboard as he rides around in his war motorcade. After being exposed to the elements in the wasteland, it's a pretty beat up bear, but it's a key part of his look. We won't get into the teddy bear's origin,

that's best experienced by watching Furiosa, but we can say its positioning highlights its importance. That teddy bear might have started doing some illustrations and put that bear in, Miller said it at a Q&A, and then that became part of the story, so that was already there before Fury Road. But anyway, I don't know, I liked Furiosa overall. I'm curious what everyone thought.

I, you know, I've not seen the original Mad Max movies. I've only seen- The Mel Gibson ones. Yes, and, you know, I've become a fan of his recent work, so I do think I'll go back and watch it. But I love, I mean, like everybody who's seen Fury Road, I love Fury Road. Yes. Fury Road is like a miraculous movie.

It's one of the best movies ever made. I think it's amazing. At minimum, it's like just an incredible spectacle to, but committed to film. It's an incredible. It's probably in my top ten favorite movies I think it's amazing. I love that for you It's just so fun this I was like this movie has The impossible task of living up to a movie that good. But I was also, I went in knowing George Miller is a crazy enough motherfucker to maybe pull it off.

And I think he got pretty close. I was like, I like this a lot. We were talking about it off pod. It's maybe an unnecessary story to tell yeah it's it's at best more time with a very fun and interesting not fun but like an interesting character and it's cool to you know flesh out a character like Furioso who doesn't have that much going on in in the in the original movie it's all it's all an implication yeah it, it's that it's you know

This is spelling out what you can kind of infer from watching fury road But I had a blast and even though it was two and a half hours long I was like I could have sat here for like another 90 minutes. I think I just I liked I like seeing This Mad Max world because George Miller is just like a freak. He's like an 81 year old freak. He's like, I'm gonna name a fucking, I'm gonna name a character Smeag. This character's name is Smeag and that guy's Scrotus. Yeah, I love Scrotus.

And this one drinks piss. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, this fucking rocks. I was like, there's nothing, there are no other movies like this. No one has ever tried to make a movie that's like Mad Max. That's not a Mad Max movie. Right. And I think that's super cool., and like, that's not a Mad Max movie. Right.

And I think that's super cool. I hate to be the sourpuss. That's okay. I do think this would have worked great as an anime. I agree. I think that if it had been released, I wouldn't have wanted to see it before Fury Road, but as like a supplementary, like, you know,

anime project, I would have been like, oh great, and I never would have thought about it again. Yeah. I felt like it was a movie that answered questions that I didn't need or want answered, and that in a way, it almost disempowered the potency of Fury Road, which came fully formed. It was like somebody gave birth to a 30 year old woman. the potency of Fury Road, which came fully formed.

It was like somebody gave birth to a 30-year-old woman. Like, it was a fully formed, complete, like, you know, taking elements from the Mad Max movies, but ultimately creating a visual language and a implied continuity and story that you could see things out of the corner of the frame and you'd be like, what the fuck was that? And to sort of emphasize that idea,

the best moment in, the best moment in I I thought, in Furiosa is when one of the dudes is like, you know, get on your bike and ride out of here. And the guy he's yelling at goes, I only answer to Octoboss. And then a guy looks at him and goes, go ahead, get on your bike.

And that to me was like, oh great, I don't need to know, I don't ever want to see Octoboss's backstory. Like I just want to know enough to be like, okay, and that also means these are different gangs, I don't need to know how these gangs got together. I don't need to know any of that fucking shit. It's the coolest moment because of all of the implication in world building it does in a single sentence.

That's what Fury Road is, but Furiosa is taking those, it's like, it's like if you were watching Furiosa and then somebody was like, do you want to know more about the Octoboss? Here, watch this six part supplementary YouTube shorts and I'd be like, oh. I mean don't threaten me with a good tie. I'll watch a limited series starring the people eater. I like all these freaks. People eater's the guy that, that like sort of robber baron looking guy

that plays with his nipple. Nasty as character design. Can't imagine being that actor. He's got like wearing a full suit with like just the nipples cut out Disgusting doesn't get like a big soul huge swollen foot like yeah, George Miller is a master of the grotesque Just like it just representing just like just discuss. I know there's an answer for why that guy has a swollen foot I don't need to know that I agree

I don't need to know that I agree Like here's the thing I don't think this movie really needs to exist but Because it does I can kind of appreciate it on its own terms But I mean this is thing It's like it's it's not Fury Road, but Fury Road is is this perfect spectacle and and so it's it's it's hard to compare it To that but yeah that like this is just a general what Heather's saying and correctly diagnosing is just like the problem with prequels in general Yeah, it's like that stuff's more interesting if it's stays in someone's brain as opposed to being Explained to you. I haven't seen the original ones right so like

does is there ever like a, in this time, this is like this big thing that happened and that's why the world is a wasteland? Like do you ever get, cause I kind of like not knowing like why the world is like this. By the way, I think Octoboss is in another Mad Max film, but I don't think his story is there. This movie had characters that are just from the video game

and I was like, that's really funny. Yeah. He's like, also he's like, he's been saying stuff about the video game that didn't come out as good as he wanted it to, but I'm like, I don't know, Claptrap's in the movie. He's in the movie and in the video game and that's it.

It's like, he went, like that's really interesting. It's been years since I saw the Mel Gibson Mad Maxes, which I saw there's Mad Max, there's Road Warrior. Road Warrior and Thunderdome. Yeah, Beyond Thunderdome. And I like, but I think even Mad Max starts after the event. Yeah.

Even though that's like the most restrained of these. Cause I think that's cool cause it's sort of just like you can think about You know when was the last time civilization was civilization right movies? But it doesn't matter because like I just want to I guess I want to know the inflection point We're like when people are like okay. My name's Smeg this is the thing it's not that many generations Yeah, cuz like some of the older characters, I think were either alive to see the world burn

or like the children of the, you know what I mean? It's not like, we're not like 10 generations in the future. We're only a couple generations removed. So it's kind of funny that people have regressed to this state already. Yeah, I'm shit boy. As somebody who's been, you know, super obsessed with Viking history for the last few years

Watching these movies always makes me be like it would have been hell to live during the time of the Viking Oh sure because it's like this is like a fantastic version of like Roving biker gangs, but like essentially Vikings were just roving biker gangs Yeah, and they would torture people and it was horrifying and their religions were inscrutable to us and bizarre and their religious ceremonies were insane. So watching the few opening catalysts for the plot in this movie, I was like, oh my God,

for sure people have done this stuff and not that, like only a thousand years ago this shit was happening constantly. The best thing that they- Oh, it's still happening in some parts of the world. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The best thing that they figured out how to do in these movies is whoever, whoever the first guy was like,

I'm gonna put the top of that car on the top of that car and it's gonna have two car tops on it That's cool That looks really cool. Here's some of this these character designs. Hold on. There's there's a Furiosa Yeah, and then I can scroll down a little bit. These are the anime character designs Then we can have the room here. This is just like a cool like kind of tableau with the war boys Oh, yeah, and then I would watch a Mad Max anime They should I know it would be awesome. There's a there's there's a Morton Joe design, which I think looks pretty rad looks very Kojima And then I think there is that it there's oh, there's another more angle of a Morton Joe. That's great

It's great. You know what else looks very Kojima is solid snake just being in this movie and Kojima tweeting boy It was neat seeing Solid Snake on screen yeah I can't remember that actor's name but I thought he was really good. Praetorian Jack is the character? Yeah he was really good obviously Chris Hemsworth as Dementus. He was so fantastic. I was like is this the best he's ever been? I was just really like locked he locked in he was really really good and like, is this the best he's ever been? Like, I was just really like, locked, he locked in. He was really, really good. He was by far the best part of the movie.

Fun to see him as like a bad, as a bad guy, which I know he played a bad guy in some other movie, but I haven't seen that one, but he was great. It was refreshing to see him like, I don't know, be like a full on character. Yeah, yeah. Really, really good. I enjoyed it overall.

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because I was, I had a thin weeb week, so I was like, I think there's something we could talk about Mad Max. So I'm glad we talked about it. Cause it's just, it's been like the same kind of steady diet of one demon slayer in one chainsaw man. Nothing, nothing really new or substantial to report. Cause I did, my weeb time this week was for the show that we watched.

So I'm excited to talk about that. But that's it for me. What about you, Heather? Thanks, Matt. So let's see. I started reading the manga that I mentioned I'd purchased last week, which is a history of the Showa era.

And I'm about 100 pages into it, and I absolutely love it. I've learned so much shit I had no idea about from the time, like I knew about the great Kanto earthquake because of the wind rises in the movie. And I knew how that earthquake upset the economic system, which then sort of is setting the stage for World War II, right?

But like seeing how, like in a slightly more granular detail, how that earthquake then causes businesses to need loans and the government has to forgive debt payment, which then change it. Like it's all of this stuff is like all because of this big earthquake and that's I Don't know. I love I love history so much So like learning it in this very palatable very enjoyable format is is super fun. Yeah

So I'm loving that manga Can't wait to buy the next volume because this is like encyclopedia size. So I get through it I get to go from, I think it ends in, I think it either starts in 1926 or ends in 1926. So the next volume is in the 40s. And I just can't wait to read it. They should put, they should make history books in manga format and then just have that be

what we were in school. They absolutely should. Why not? Why not? I mean, it's I mean it's farm It's so much more engaging than science and math do yeah, let's do it everything manga format I wonder if there is any sort of American history comic there probably isn't it's probably awful I'm just trying to think of how like pos like jingoistic it would be sure yeah So I've read that I've continued watching Here on the tail end of the Universal Century timeline

Gundam victory okay, and I want to tell you guys about a death that happened in the show this week These two people are on the outside of a spaceship trying to disarm a bomb no one of them is of a spaceship trying to disarm a bomb. One of them is a character Junko from the Shrike team, the all female Gundam pilot Shrike team. Love that Shrike team. Not Junko. And she is fidgeting with this bomb and then all of a sudden she goes, huh? And then she is naked and floating in space

and the camera very slowly pans up her entire naked body and she's like, and at the end of her like breath, you hear her go, and then she explodes. And it's like a slowed down, like visceral moment of her death and like the experience of dying

as like a conscious psychic individual, like being born, being reverse born, dying, it was very upsetting. And also the explosion is one of those like anime like light explosions where you see the, it hit the outline of a face and then like lines explode out the back and then she's just vaporized.

The deaths in Gundam Victory are far less important to the plot and thus feel a little bit more like actual war. Like, like stuff is just randomly fucking killing main characters. And it's not like, oh, if I can enter into this space station and do this thing, then we can achieve this goal. Oh no, I died. Now we can't achieve the goal. It's more like we're fighting a random skirmish

and that character got blown up. Yeah. So really enjoying Gundam Victory. And I think that is the majority of what I weaved this week. I'm also, I got that Vinland Saga that I got for 40% off in the mail. Hell yeah. And I've started thumbing through that.

It's really gorgeous, great art, and it's a heavy, heavy boy. Look what daddy did. Hell yeah. Um, so that's what I've been weaving. The way you were just talking about of just like the kind of random deaths that happen on the battlefield, and you reminded it,

I feel like Band of Brothers was like great about depicting that. Yes, yes. And just like, there's like the guy who just finds like a German pistol And then he accidentally shoots himself in the leg and it bleeds out. Yeah, it's like oh man This is so the most trivial thing that could happen like you know it's not heroic at all It's just sort of like yeah, you're around dangerous shit, and at some point you might get blowed up

Yeah, he also somebody else like writes a letter to his family in Band of Brothers and is like he died a hero Yeah, they're always doing that Wait, was that is that what you were your self-proclaimed was was pulled from? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah got it Junkos naked death body Wow Cuz I was like cuz I was like did I miss something from Gundam since we're back on this series I I sort of was I baby-beared this Or I was sort of like There was some nudity in fuck. Yeah this episode. We'll get into it. I

I'm I should have I forgot that we switched back to our old format So right self-proclaimed should have been from the show itself Don't make that mistake again. Self-proclaimed, no air conditioning in the cockpit, Heather and Cable. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha that aired from, was released from January 1996 to July of 1999. The American release, I guess, aired on Toonami originally. Yes. Which, you know, I definitely missed.

This show is new to me. This was towards the end of a fully hand-drawn era, the kind of mid-'90s, and the level of craft is so high. It's just a big part of what I appreciate. It's just like, this is a stellar looking show. Like when characters get into a car, the car shifts. And you're like, oh, oh, this is quality anime. It's really, really good stuff.

A lot of interesting clunt in the background, you know? I meant to look up what the actual term for that is and I didn't. The original director, we'll go with clunt. The original director, the Takeuki Kanda, who directed the first half of the episodes, died abruptly in 1996. So he died during production completely unexpectedly.

So Umanosuke Iida took over midway through the series and directed the back end. We'll see if that affects everything, anything, as we progress. But we talked about how it looks. We'll get into that in more depth. But Heather, I'm curious if we can tee us up, give us some context for where we are in the Gundam timeline,

both in terms of in-universe in Gundam, and then also in the overall production of Gundam series. So Mobile Suit Gundam premieres in the year 1979 and airs through the year 1980. There are 43 episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam premieres in the year 1979 and airs through the year 1980. There are 43 episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam. That is the jumping off point for Gundam. It is not canonically the earliest point of what is now known as the universal century timeline

because all of these shows take place in a post-AD, like it's our time, it's our earth in theory, somewhere around either, I think it's 2080, we switch calendars and move into the universal century. But Mobile Suit Gundam comes out in 1979 to 1980 and it is a flop. It's a flop, I didn't know that.

It's a tremendous flop. flop. It's a flop. I didn't know that. It's tremendous flop. Like this is a show about sort of military realism in giant robots. And it was not a hit because all of the robots up till then had been like super powered or like, you know, you turn your belt and you turn into the robot or whatever. So Mobile Suit Gundam is initially not well received, but then grows this very, very vocal fandom, which begins having cosplay events

and like public Gundam screenings. And so Gundam gets a sequel and that is Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam Zeta Gundam is a Continued like a true sequel. It's a continuation of the timeline and establishes one of the things that Gundam does well Which is basically 40 years of uninterrupted continuity got it Then after that in 1986 you get Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ or double Zeta That's one where they are big long beards. Yeah, they're big long Nick loved saying that and I loved hearing it

For these first few series, the air date of the show generally takes place in the same year of the Universal Century timeline. So 1979 is when Gundam airs, is Universal Century 0079. It's like takes place in that year. That's where we are with this series. Yeah.

Mobile Suit Gundam Char's counterattack. Char is one of the main villains of the original series. He gets his own movie. It is awesome and gorgeously animated that comes out in the year 1988 and depicts the year night or universal century 93, slightly behind a head of, is what I'm saying making sense? Yeah, I'm tracking it.

Yeah, cause it's just like, it's a look, if we did to put it in a Western terms, it's kind of like Star Wars comes out, but it's not chronologically the first piece of Star Wars content that's about the stuff on either end of it. Yeah. So then you start getting these standalone investigations of events in though that so

that's your first big chunk of the Universal Century is those those like five things. And then you start getting these single stories that take place within that timeline Telling like on the ground or on like in space stories You get mobile suit Gundam war in the pocket you get mobile suit Gundam f91 You get mobile suit Gundam stardust memory And you get mobile suit Gundam the eighth MS team eighth MS team, the show that we're watching currently takes place during the first Gundam. So if you're- During Mobile Suit Gundam, that very first series.

Yeah, so if you're watching the original 1979 show and you're like, I wonder what's going on when these guys are fighting their ground war on planet Earth, this is a story about those grunts. So it is like, it is not featuring, it's like, if you knew that Superman was off fight or, I don't know anything about Superman.

This is Rogue One. It's a Rogue One, yeah, that's what I was just thinking of. Yeah, it's like Rogue One, great. Yeah, they aren't, like these dudes are not the heroes. These aren't Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. These are just some dudes and some ladies. So this show comes out, as Nick said, between 1996 and 1999 and take place in the year UC79.

And when I first watched the show, I was like, I didn't know anything about UC79, so I'm just watching it as a robot show. I'm watching it as Gundam in Vietnam It's like okay cool. I I can contextualize this I can enjoy it now that I'm watching it again These characters are watching like television in the pilot and they're watching a speech, and I know when that speech is given watching a speech and I know when that speech is given in Mobile Suit Gundam so I know that what they're responding to and why the heroes of the Federation are like shut up fuck this guy I wish he'd shut up because I know what that speech is and what when it's happening. Do you guys want like a brief breakdown of the Universal Century timeline up till now in the show?, why not?

Yeah, okay great. Whatever. Just like now. We're good. Yeah Would you like a million dollars? It's not a million dollars worth of story alright, I'll pass thanks, so the very first thing that happens is is The United Federation of Earth begins construction of these O'Neill cylinders, which are the giant colonies that float in space. This happens in the year UC1, the first year of the Universal Century, and it sort of sets off an era of strife because the Prime Minister, whose name is Ricardo Marquinez.

Great name. Is going to give this speech about how we are entering into a new calendar, this is when Earth is going to become spacefaring, and the nine billion people of Earth who are overcrowding Earth are going to have some place to move, but this speech is destroyed in a terrorist attack that also blows up the space station. Nevertheless, people move into these colonies that are giant cylinders floating in space. After a while, the people living in space begin calling themselves space-noids and calling the

people on earth earth-noids. Everybody's pizzas? I thought you wanted to hear this. Sometimes they're like stomping on them with a you know big pogo stick or something. Run them over with a steamroller. So yeah, space noids are earth noids. And this becomes like a thing of like, it's the, you know, they're basically colonizing space, but now they develop their own identity.

And we see some of that with characters in this series that we're going to discuss of like, my whole life has been spent living in a colony. They also call them sides, is that another term? Like within one of these enclosed structures that's a simulacrum of Earth's atmosphere, but I've never actually seen Earth itself. And they're called sides because of where they are orbiting Earth.

So like side one side six side two etc I'm gonna have to get good at this like Nick cuz like Nick can goof around But then like he does a lot of extra like paying attention And he can say a lot of stuff like so I think I got it. I think for me to earn My goofing off. I have to do some homework, and that's fine. No, you're doing fine. You're doing great. So, um, as... Don't feel bad.

Yeah, don't feel bad. We're having fun. No, no. What? No, I'm just kidding. You're not in trouble. Yeah, you're not in trouble at all. I just think I just saw an example of what I could be doing. You're doing great.

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They declare themselves the Principality of Zeon and they go to war with Earth. So now you have Zeon versus the Earth Federation and the people in control of zion are not good people there is like a very corrupt Family lineage that is crying trying to create this sort of fascist monarchy because they the true idealist of the space independence movement Was the person that they assassinated. But they used that as the pretext for,

the precursor for like, oh, this must have been Earth that assassinated this guy. We're going to have to go to war with Earth. And one of their first actions in this war is to destabilize the orbit of one of these massive colonies and drop it onto the planet. So a huge catastrophic environmental like tons of people die. And then we go into a war called the one-year war between space and earth and it is during this time of conflict when Amuro Rey is out in space fighting in the Gundam that we Join our heroes here in this story

Heading to earth to help Pull or to help fight back the Xion forces who have landed on Earth in an attempt to take it over. Now, is this, and I appreciate all this context, is the Xeon Federation, I'm sorry, Xeon, and then the Earth Federation is the other one. Yeah, the Principality of Xeon. Principality of Xeon. And the Earth Federation.

Earth Federation. Is this like a clear like good, bad, because I feel like there tends to be like a little bit more moral ambiguity at least a little bit I've seen. At this point in the show, it is hard to argue that Xeon is not just bad. Right.

However, the show and the original Gundam series and the series that take place after that, like if you're watching this when it comes out in the year 1996, you've already been told that after Earth wins the war against Xeon in that one year war, they become fascist and everything kind of flips. And then the people in space have to create

an anti-Eth union group in order to fight back the encroaching fascism of planet Earth's federation because Earth is like, we're never going to let a war like that happen again. So many people lost their lives and the only way to have control over that situation is to create a police state. So there is a teeter tottering of who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. But at this point, canonically, in the year 79, Zion has dropped a colony on Earth. They've killed a lot of people. They are led by sort of neo-dictatorship of

really not good, not morally clear people. And of really not good, not morally clear people. And that's where it is. But we also know that there are good people in Zion. Like there are good people who are just colonists, who are just like, I want independence. Yeah. I wanna live in my space colony. And I think we're introduced to that concept

very early on in the 8th MS team. The 8th MS team, we're gonna be talking about two episodes today, episode one, War for Two, and episode two, Gundams in the Jungle. I guess we'll start with episode one, which is War for Two, the two referring to, I believe, our series lead, Shirou Amada and Aina Sahalan. I'm not quite sure how to say your last name,

I don't know if it's pronounced at any point. It's totally okay, one of the things about Gundam is that everybody has fucking crazy names. Yeah. What to say your last name. I don't know if it's pronounced at any point. It's totally okay. One of the things about Gundam is that everybody has fucking crazy names. Yeah. What is Char's last name? Asnable. I've been ringing in my ears for days for some reason. I've been thinking about the phrase Char Asnable.

Char is in origin. He's like a little boy for part of it. It's, you get like his full backstory. Yeah. It's a, that's a big-time Furiosa Yeah, and I was watching that not knowing anything else so like I'm getting a bunch of backstory It's practically a Phantom Menace it sounds like. It's very Phantom Menace-y So they we have a Shiro and Aina and one is on the side of the Federation and one is on the side of Zeon

So the series starts we have this awesome awesome OP with these great bits of animation. And the one thing I like about this, this overall show, like the production value is very high, it looks awesome, but also it's got the scoring. A lot of it is kind of like this J-Jazz, like, you know, it's got that, but also it has parts where it's a little bit more soaring and orchestral. It's really's got that but also has parts where it's a little bit more soaring and orchestral. It's it's really vivid a

Musical palette something that I while watching this I think realized that I was missing from anime That we've been watching. Uh-huh Is like science and robot sounds yeah Yeah, cuz like I don't know just the movement the like things unplugging the like you know Parts changing into weapons and stuff. I was like this is this is my shit This is I love this Gundam Gundam as a series really fetishizes a panel opening Yeah, like yeah, somebody's got like a fucking slot on their arm and they can open it up and there's gears inside or some ammo or whatever or that That panel like then flips and turns around and becomes like a light like all of that technical detail

It's like so lovingly rendered and this would have been contemporary with the Evangelion Yeah, it contemporary slightly after right so as Evangelion. Yeah, contemporary slightly after. Right. So as Evangelion is sort of redefining what mecha anime can be and sort of ushering in this biological horror of what have we done and what have we made and the dawn of human genetics in me Mecha stories, Gundam is still being like, no, these are war machines. What if you were driving a tank that could walk? In universe explanation for why these robots exist

is that somebody discovers a kind of particle that ruins radar and ruins like the like basically a particle can be released onto a battlefield that makes it so that the smartest way to approach that battlefield is in a machine that can do more than one thing. Because like you have your fog of war is so intense that you can't just send tanks in because you don't know where the enemy is. So you need like a mobile ground unit that can also fly

and that's why the robots begin in Gundam. Which is pretty cool. Like it's not just like, oh, we made robots. It's like an answer to a tactic of war. Yeah, it's gotta be combined. It has to be able to accomplish combined arms basically all in one. Interesting.

I will say this show starts right in the middle of things. It is very much a media raise and I felt immediately lost to my first few. I was like, wow, there's just so much being thrown at me. But I will say when I watch this episode a second time, I was like, okay, but it's just, it's like immediately pretty immersive. I'm not sure you felt Matt, I was pretty overwhelmed.

I was pretty, I did watch this, I watched both of them twice because I was just like, I need to make sure that I know that what was going on. Am I 100% sure I know what was going on? Still not quite, but I knew enough that I was enjoying myself, that I was like, oh, I don't know, I like this guy, and I like this mean lady he found. But it does very much, you're right,

start in the middle of stuff which now knowing that it's not Chronologically the first instances of Gundam makes more sense, but I Think we should also clarify one of the other reasons we're not doing the First Gundam should not because it's just 52 episodes or something, it's like a lot. 43.

43? I don't know, is it also a little more boring? Is it just like old? Well, I don't find it boring. But it's also archaeological. Watching it, you appreciate the things that are happening that are new. Yes. If you're watching it from the vantage point of it being the 70s.

Sure. And you're like wow it would be wild to watch a Saturday morning cartoon where so much of it was about the tactics of war. Sure. You know like you'd be like what is this? You know if G. if GI Joe was good Then that's kind of like what? Don't say stuff you can't take back. Have you watched an episode of GI Joe? No of course. It's dog shit

There's no way awful I'm sort of like it's insane to me that this is even popular at all like I get that Then probably the thing that is most popular about j. Joe's was the toys Yeah, like and that's that's good. The toys are good They didn't have to make a shitty TV show out of the toy It's it's like cuz you watch those kids are tuning and like I'm not surprised when like a man sucks I was like, of course this of course, this was complete dog shit But I was surprised when I watched like DuckTales. I was like, wait, this is bad

I thought this was like one of the ones that would still be good. I haven't revisited that. I haven't revisited Darkwing Duck, which I used to love. All the duck stuff I love. I will say not to get too into GI Joe. I went to an early screening of the second GI Joe movie which opened with RZA on a mountain like fighting ninjas and I got to leave like comments and like write comments on like a card, and I was like I think this movie needs fighting ninjas. And I got to leave comments and write comments on a card. And I was like, I think this movie needs more ninjas. I was like, because that was the best shit, was when there was a bunch more ninjas around. And then I watched it again later,

and they added more ninjas. They like reshot stuff and put more ninjas in the middle. I was like, this is what I'm talking about. This is's good. I used to go to screenings like that all the time. I would never write anything on the comments. But then the one time I write, this movie could use more ninjas.

They added maybe too many more. Honestly, this went on for a little long. Wow. That's so funny Yeah, so to answer the question about like gun gun so original Gundam Mobile Suit Gundam is old Yes, it feels like the 70s, but it also feels strangely Prescient about what anime is going to become with the sort of seriousness with which it treats what is essentially a kid's cartoon. Got it.

And then you're like, oh, this is what anime is gonna be. Like these guys are laying down the pipeline for like, what if we did this but serious? It's like, it's almost like what if somebody brought out, what if some maniac was like, I wanna do The Simpsons, but instead of it being a comedy, I'd like to do it as a business drama with the same fucking drawings.

And then that flops, of course, that flops, but then people are like, I really liked Succession Simpsons And then you know 20 years later everything is Succession Simpsons. Mm-hmm That's kind of what it feels like watching Gundam. It's like this is not quite the thing, but it's extremely good It's it's see it's funny that you do say the Simpsons because the Simpsons itself, like season one of The Simpsons, you watch it now, it's like pretty ponderously paced, and it feels like pretty tame.

But at the time, it's like, it's hard to even conceive of this now, but it was like subversive, and it was like, oh wow, there's adult animation on network television? Like that's crazy. Like people's minds were blown. People were upset about, like Bart is bad? Like families are supposed to be good on television.

What's going on? They have a misbehaved child. Like it was like almost scandalous. And it was like funny, but like not funny in the way that it eventually became. So you watch it and it's just like, but then you see what The Simpsons turns into in a few seasons and it's like,

oh, okay, I see how we started from here and ended up there. Even though that's all in the same series, that's not a spin-off series. But that's it. All that said, even though I was a little bit lost, I'm in as soon as I see UC 0079. Like, great.

It's just like in Dune when they have like the Chiron that's like the year 10,000, I'm like, all right. Here we go. This is a different unit of measuring time that I don't know yet. You see, it was 07.9, why not? I did, so I watched this yesterday, and then I watched it again this morning,

but I remember when I watched it yesterday, when that popped up and went, hmm. Okay. I was like, I don't even know what this is, but they're giving me information. I was like, hmm, interesting. I think that the reason this, so the onboarding of this show worked for me

because obviously it started like a full blown multi-year obsession. Yeah, and like us, we should say, this was your on-ramp to Gundam, as you were saying. Yeah, and I think all I needed to know, like I didn't need to know like all the political machinations of like who these people were I knew the dudes in the ship are good guys and the

People they're trying to fight are the bad guys and I can tell just from the mech design Who the good guys and the bad guys are because you've got good guys got the white robots The bad guys got a green robot that whenever it looks at you goes boing the bad guys got a green robot that whenever it looks at you it goes BWING! And you're like, oh fuck! But also, this was interesting to me good guy, Mech, pointy I used to associate pointy

with bad Whoa! Bad guy, Mech, kind of round Yeah, he's a round guy A big boy But beyond that I was like, okay so you've got these kids flying in, they're clearly deploying for a war

that's happening on Earth, and then this shit happens out in space. Like none of these characters pre-exist. So it's not like you're like, oh what happened to that guy who got in the robot and then was lost his legs out in space? Like all of that is like introduced exclusively in this show.

So when they're like, oh, there's a distress signal. I'm like, okay, there it's a distress signal for the good guys. They go out to rescue him. He doesn't have a mech on the ship. I'm following. And then he runs into a bad guy and surprise it's a girl. Yeah.

It's a look, I think it's all, I like all of it. I'm just, I like, I guess probably I was just disoriented because it felt like just a deluge of information and just like a you know, I'm just trying to track a lot of stuff. But but I but but overall really like it. Yeah, we've got like this. This I love how janky the spacecraft looks that they're in their transport. That's really good. I love like the little bit of zero gravity with the floating objects. And yeah, obviously we set up that they're tasked with getting the Xeon forces off of Earth. And then the part that you

were just talking about. So the new commander, this is Shiro, who we later learn, goes out because he sees this distressed craft, he's going to see to try to rescue somebody, but they just have a ball, and he goes out in the ball, and it is very 2001, like kind of like hard sci-fi feeling, but the design of this ball is really awesome. Yeah. It's a really good ball. It reminds me of the submersibles that go down to Titanic. Sure. Like, it's like just like a very functional pragmatic craft.

Right. Yeah. It's probably used to like repair shit in space. Yeah, this one worked. Thinking more, sort of the, like Cameron's ones worked. I guess Cameron's, yeah, Cameron's going down there just fine. Yeah, he's going down all the time. He's making Avatar 3, 4, and 5. This one wasn't filled with five billionaires

and like some of the PlayStation 1 controllers. Yeah, and a Mad Cat's controller, yeah. I will say, hearing your voice that you're just kind of like dropped in, in the middle, I think that is how Gundam also starts. The original series, you don't, you aren't taught anything. You're just dropped in, in the middle of an ongoing war, and then they backfeed all of the stuff that had happened previously. So I think that's maybe the flavor of this, is like seeing a documentary for a different world

and kind of having to put together the pieces as you go. So I'm watching both of these as the, I'm watching the, and as I watch it subtitled first and then I watch it in the dub and I'm taking notes on my second watch during the dub. And Matt, I don't know if you watch the subs or the dubs, but there's, Heather, I know you watch the subs, but there's a part, when you talk about, when he discovers that it's a woman,

he fucks up this mech with his tow cable from his ball. Azique, that's what they're called, right? Is that the nickname for it? I guess, yeah, but I don't think that's what they're saying in the original Japanese. I think that that is a localization to make it feel more warlike. Because there's a couple of localization subtitling things that I was like, I'm not sure that's what he said.

Okay, well whatever, it's like a nickname for the kind of craft. No, Zeke's I think are... So the craft is a Zaku. The craft is a Zaku. And the Zeke's I think are, yeah, are those robots, but I felt like it was also interchangeable with just Zeon forces. Yeah, like a part, maybe like the Zeke is the guy piloting the Zaku, whatever it is they're referring to.

He fucks up the space mech with his tow cable, it looks awesome, pilot ejects. Thes up the space mech with his tow cable. It looks awesome. Pilot ejects. The delivery in the dub of him noticing the pilot and seeing her feminine form is going, a woman? Yeah. That is so funny.

There's a few things like that where I was like, I think I might have to switch. It's overall a good dub, but there's a few parts that are maybe a little bit broad. Well, in the subtitled version, they say the F word. They do, yes, and I don't think that's in the dub. And I don't think that's also in the Japanese. And I was like, who at what point in the translation process

was like, I'm gonna use this derogatory word for homosexual in a fucking subtitling is insane. I really had a big choice. Love the mid card in this show. Like, they're really cool looking. It feels very, I guess just the era this is made, it would, but it feels very snatcher to me.

Like, just kind of like the look of it, the vibe of everything. I almost didn't, I didn't say this because I was like, this is not true. I was like, I was like, I, cause I was also thinking, I was like, a lot of this looks like Snatcher to me for some reason. Some of the character designs for sure.

But I was like, don't say it Matt, cause like doesn't sound quite right. And then you said it. I'm right. Well, it's the, it's the, whatever you would call this very bespoke era of like technical design is like really hip in this, in the 1990s.

Like you watch a lot of those 90s anime and you'll see this like extremely intricate aircraft or even Cowboy Bebop has a lot of that technical prowess delivered through like hand-drawn animation like it'll be like holy shit Look at that like he'll adjust a fin and you'll cut to the fin and you'll see all the parts of the fin moving in Cowboy bebop is anyone doing hand-drawn anymore Yeah, I mean yes, but but everything has it like is on a computer these yeah We're talking about something like hand-drawn on a set like you know

classic traditional cell animation You know might just be gbly, but I don't know if they did a boy the heron was all like I don't know if there was any you know I don't there's no there's no like 3d animation of that But I don't know if they use computers as part of their workflow for coloring or something I'm just like seeing something like this. You can really like tell the difference like it just looks it looks great It looks like it was really hard Right, it sucked to do that's part of what got me into anime when I was a kid

Was I was watching like just the raw talent of the animation and being like, oh shit, because I would argue there are parts of this that look better than say The Little Mermaid, which was like Disney's reentry into like hand drawn animation in the same sort of window of time. Like The Little Mermaid is like off model a lot. Like, she'll like turn her head or like, you know, like not every single cell of animation for the Little Mermaid is something

you'd want to purchase and own. Whereas with this, I feel like there are times where I'm like pausing it to like write something down and it's just a cell of animation on my iPad. And I'm like, I would own this. I would own this drawing of a truck in the background of a shot. Yeah.

So he, so Shiro and Aina, who is the woman for the Xeon Forces, who gets ejected from the Mac, they end up pursuing each other. Love the gun fight. They have limited air supplies and they eventually are like, or he eventually is like, look, you get, like we're gonna run out of air. You have a tear in your suit.

Let's just work together. He patches it. I like her character design. She takes her helmet off and they have that moment together. They go face to face. But she's also like, I won't be taken in. Just shoot me.

Yeah. Yeah. They're face to face. Okay, so this is a bit of scoring that threw me off. So they take, she takes the helmet off. They're face to face. Okay, so this is a bit of scoring that that threw me off So they take she takes a helmet off. They're face to face to the full time. Like we're not looking through spacesuits and They're in like a pressurized cabin or whatever It goes to a wide and it goes to full on like 70s porno music I was like are you gonna cut back to a sex scene is that's what's happening?

I really felt like they were setting that up. But no, they end up kind of just exploring together. They float through the wreckage. They're looking for flares, but they split up and they need to synchronize their watches so we get this family heirloom watch on a chain that he is handed to connect him. And yeah, all this stuff is fun. I mean, like, look, when they're floating in space

discussing their futures and like a tenor sax comes in I'm like this is very much my shit. I love the the yeah really really good. No I I just love Because I'm so far into The future of the Universal Century timeline at this point since I'm now watching canonically the final Universal Century show All of my beloved robot designs are so far in the past Wow like the Gundams look different Certainly the bad guy robots look different like the Zaku's are no longer in production

Zeon is is obliterated So coming back to this made me feel kind of cozy nice Like I was like, oh, it's all my guys. It's that guys, I like those guys. And even though the Gundams that are piloted by our grunts aren't the Gundam, these mass production model Gundams still kind of look like the Gundam. And you're like, oh man, it's that guy too, which is called by a lot of the fans, the grandpa Gundam,

because he's like the old Gundam design. It's interesting, because I don't feel like you'll ever see like a Star Wars where there's like, well, there's no X-Wings. Like that's such a fixture of the universe. But the idea of like, oh, we're gonna go, like that we have this world that's going far enough into the future where we're of like oh we're gonna go like that that we have this different this world that that's Going far enough into the future where we're just like having a break from the old designs and like new stuff comes in that's it

That's an interesting way of flushing out that world. Well the next The next Star Wars thing coming out is the acolyte and that is In like I think maybe I think it's like the tail end of the High Republic era or something. It's set way before the prequels even. Right. So there might not be X-Wings in there because it's so far in the pack. Got it, right. I just want you to know that everybody just discontinued their Patreon.

I know, I didn't want to say it. I'm excited about the acolyte, it looks good. I'm excited about the acolyte. It looks good. I'm excited about it, too I hope it's and or just as a side note. I hope it's and or in writing us Lightsabers in action yes, I want those two things simultaneously, and if they crush those two things together Maybe the acolyte will be my favorite thing ever. I look fun looks awesome anyway these so they're there the zero sacrificed They find a detonator they use that to launch a missile in the wreckage as a signal We should be in the fireworks business and then they get my mind a soundless space They get found he keeps the watch by accident wonder if that'll come back

What I'd find out Why are you being sassy right now? Well, I just I don't know What? I have to find out. Why are you being sassy right now? Well I just I don't know. It'd be weird if it didn't come back. You little minx. What? What?

So we don't really see how he's rescued right? He just ends up back on the ship. He's just sort of like I'll be here and they'll take care of me because she goes off on her own. Yeah. We don't see the actual Federation rescue but but it's implied like, oh, once they set off those explosions, then the Federation was like, oh, we see it too. J'Zeon got there first.

And then we've got Sanders, who's the older guy, who I think at some point, does he just eject one of his ensigns into deep space? Does that happen? This guy fucking sucks. It's kind of, I think this is meant to be a misdirect, but it's like set up where you're like, oh, I think this guy is gonna be the man in charge

because they're going down to earth and someone's gonna take over. It turns out at the end that Shiro, this guy we've been following the whole time, is in fact the new commander of the earth forces. So he's gonna be going down and commanding that squadron. And he comes off as like a brash young kid. He does, yeah.

So when he ends up being in charge of this group, you're like, oh, okay, cool. Because so often we're used to these like either not ready protagonists, like a protagonist who's like, I don't know if I can do this. Or like even the protagonist of Mobile Suit Gundam is a kid who's like, you know, traumatized

by killing people in space and like sits on his bed and like holds his knees. Like we, so to see a guy who's like, I'm gonna go out in the ball. And then he like deals with the Xeon person and then he's also in charge, that's cool. I thought it was cool. I really liked that he, I really liked the way

that was played out and paced out. And then we go, the end credits are also awesome, which is maybe we can talk about now with this first episode. Yes, so it's just like a camera is fixed in place Shiro is in the foreground and he's mostly still and then action is going on Yeah, as he's sitting in the the jungle But it's a way where it feels like there's a lot of motion even though a lot of times the frame is like motionless But yeah, everyone's walking by and mugging to the camera. He doesn't realize he's film the whole time. It's really I don't know It's really cool. I really like that

And I think again, you know, I said up top. I like the guy who shows the porno man good move Extremely Nick coated I have a I have a Before we get into this next one. Yeah, please. Yeah. Yeah any any other thoughts on on episode one? I have I have a question sort of about Gundam holistically let's go Is it that I'm am I wearing a Gundam shirt because the answer is yes, okay? Wow, this is never my principality of the on shirt

Wow, the logo underneath the collar like as if I was part of the actual Empire Wow, that's fucking awesome um Because so my question is... Yeah. Why does Zeon wanna take over the earth? I'll tell you. They think that earthlings are mishandling the environment. They think that you're destroying the mother earth. They kinda don't sound that bad.

Yeah. It might be Zeon pills. So, like, inside of this fascist dictatorship is like a kernel of a good idea. I forgot about that part, that's pretty bad. They get a really bad, really bad, not good guys. But they're also like you guys don't deserve the earth, look what you've done with it. Yeah, it's like if Sephiroth was in charge. My question is because there's types of anime, right? There's like

What do you call it? There's shounen anime. Yeah. And then there's the other kind. Shoujo anime. Shoujo. But there's also like, seinen anime. There's like, there's tons of subcategories. What kind of anime is Gundam? Well, it is a mecha anime. Okay. But it is, since it is, I would say it's a mecha anime primary and then a shonen anime secondary got it because it is generally consumed by boys and and like if you're thinking oh what kind of demographic are we going to attract with a show that is about

military robots engaging in a skirmish in Southeast Asia yeah like it's probably gonna be young boys. That being said, women, watch Gundam. Yeah. It is so good, it is great. I was gonna say, I feel like if there was an anime I can get my stepdad to watch, I think it could be Gundam. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Episode two, Gundam's in the Jungle. Great title. You're in the Gundam now, baby. Very good. I'll even even I will nod I Love how we get this Jeep driving through the jungle with the with the new additions that we've learned from the to the earth

the earth side squadron of the Earth Federation Who are the people in the in the space transport in the previous episode? I? Love how annoyed the space no noise are by the smell of trees Yes, the idea that that's like a repulsive thing is so interesting well because the air in the Colonies is constantly filtered and recycled so it probably smells a little bit more like a hospital and if you're born there You'd be like what's this fresh you're born there you'd be like Like shit everywhere earth smells like shit. Yeah, it's not like dirt. Yeah, right It's a well it doesn't it doesn't smell it smells unfamiliar, so it see it smells disgusting and dangerous. Yeah, scary Yeah, I thought that was great also big fan of Karen Joshua

Yep, uh She's a bit of a Karen. Matt, how dare you? She's a bit of a Karen type. I don't know how much of a Karen she is. She's a tall lady. She's a big lady. Look what mommy did.

Oh no. She's mean too, which I love. She is mean. Big mean lady. Sign me up. So the Gundams are, they're driving in, we see these Gundams popping up for land action, they look so fucking big and cool.

How awesome is that sequence? That shot is great. That looks so rad, looks so rad. That to me is like, having not seen a lot of Gundam, I was like, that's Gundam, this is Gundam shit right here. This is good stuff. Well, like, when you're talking about just incredible stills, I'm watching this,

I'm like, that would be a GIF. Like, I feel like you could pull so many GIFs from this series. Just bits of, just little bits of animation that look awesome in isolation What context would you use it in in like a? Trump does something I don't like It's also I think it's neat with properties like this because obviously there's tons of Star Wars gifts sure like you know Luke with a lightsaber And there were on day nice But I'm just saying that like there's not a lot of something else. There's not a lot of stuff from the 70s

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, that is still giffable here. It's true in the year 2024 dog day afternoon Gifts a huge and huge and enormous amount of culture has been like just like memory hold because of its absence in terms of gifts and image macros. But Gundam is one of those things that people still give, especially Char. Like Char is like a fixture of like anime giffable.

Wow. I just kind of like, look, I really love American Vietnam movies and like just American like jungle combat movies. It's just such an interesting like little genre. And this one feels like it's riffing on that, but it also feels like it's rifting on maybe on Predator specifically. I don't know how much that's, that is an influence.

By rewatch Predator like this year holds up. It's so awesome. It's such an awesome piece of action filmmaking. I've never seen the original. You gotta watch it. Wow. I've seen Prey and I've seen the Robert Rodriguez one. You should watch the original Schwarzenegger Predator. It's a good movie, a John McEarney movie.

But it does, that is what they're referencing, right? Or is it more general than that? I feel like it's more general. I feel like this is like, okay, here is a Vietnam movie and it's not just American Vietnam movies. There were excellent Hong Kong Vietnam movies. There's lots of, there's Vietnam movies from all over the planet.

Right, that's what I'm talking about what I'm familiar with, but yeah. And I think that just what the riff is here is, we've seen at this point, if we're watching Gundam as it comes out over the years, you've seen a lot of Gundam in space and you've seen a lot of Gundam on Earth, but you've never seen it like in the Earthen environments

that our warfare and our guerrilla tactics warfare made like uncomfortable. Like it like, and the idea of hiding this giant robot in foliage is kind of cool. That's one of my favorite things. Cause it's just like, it's awesome. It's also like, it's kind of dumb, but it's so awesome. It's just like, he's squatting down. He's like a-ass robot, but he's like taking cover like sniping. Yeah, I love that shit

I love like I don't know there is an interesting contrast to see something so mechanical in an environment where they're Like outside of a city or like you know like a battlefield or something like to see a robot next to a tree is interesting. Visually, it looks cool. No, the environment's great. It's also crazy because unlike the ground soldiers, after the Gundam does something, it can stand up and be above the trees and kind of look around, which is kind of neat.

Yeah, I love that. So Sanders, we learn, is the Reaper, has a reputation for just being a killer or getting things killed Also, everyone thinks the new commander a Shiro is marked for death and it basically as he lands They're going into battle to back up the sixth team. So he doesn't even have time He says in in narration or dialogue. I don't even have time to Learn my squad mates names before I'm going into battle. So he's just in this shit immediately. We have a little bit of a tangent from that

where we check in with Ina. She has this, again, just all the mechanical design is so cool in this. The VTOL, the vertical takeoff and landing green ship that she's in that just like, wow, it's like, that looks so fucking awesome. And it's just like a small, it's like ten seconds of animation, but I love it She gets off there and she embraces this weird-looking Colonel who I guess is her brother. Yeah her big brother

Yeah, her big brother This is one of those things where it's a bit of translation like like big brother or big sister isn't necessarily always a familial Like relation yeah, because you know it's just it's a different sort of thing that you might just call like someone who's older who you maybe are a lower status of but like they are relatives here I thought they had Folgers commercial they do have Folgers energy they want a hundred percent do I was like these these siblings might fuck I was like this is crazy. It was definitely in in Targaryen territory It seems like they might have been getting a little incestuous. I know it's Kind of comes up a lot. Yeah, not like I was looking for it. It was in the show. It's just in the show. I mean

It's just in this it's it seems pretty pretty overt Yeah, there's a there's an energy because I think the misdirect is, oh, does she have a boyfriend? Like after they've had these like intimate moments out in space and you're like, is this gonna be a love triangle situation? And then she's like, thank you, big brother. You're my favorite big brother.

And you're like, oh, okay. Stop saying it like that. Yeah. Suck your dick, big brother. So when they go into the jungle, Okay, stop saying it like that. Yeah So when they go into the jungle Shiro assigns himself point and this is just Just having a blast after this he's him struggling to adjust to gravity because he only knows like like space is Like of course of course even if you experience that the simulation which I'm sure he did It's just like that's a completely different ball game. And then he just doesn't, he's super confident.

This dude's all confidence. He's all like irrational confidence, apparently, because everyone's just like, this guy's gonna get fucking, Karen Joshua was like, you just don't have the skills to be able to do this. And he's like stumbling and bumbling in his gravity bound mech.

Also, he's hot. Yeah. And like that, watching it, I'm like, Gundams don't have AC? Like he's so fucking hot inside his robot. And I'm like, when you fight in like a jet, isn't there like some kind of climate control? Yeah, I'm sure.

They probably don't want you too comfortable up there. But it's wild to me how often he's like like wiping like Sheets of water off his forehead or like he has to at one point like take off his flight suit Because he's like I'm gonna fucking die in this thing. I would imagine airplanes Are probably different than Gundams There's it feels like there's a lot more mechanically like mechanical stuff going on where it's like are probably different than Gundams. It feels like there's a lot more mechanically, like mechanical stuff going on

where it's like, it's probably very, very hot. Yeah, probably. I would probably assume there's like, I mean, there's probably a lot more like, I don't know, cores or something. Like there's like crazy stuff in there. None of the other times you've seen the Gundam fighting, has anyone complained about the heat?

So I'm guessing it's like, it's because it's Southeast Asia and they're in the jungle that like the climate system is just not capable of like regulating it. Can't even keep up. You're like your car overheats, you gotta turn the AC off, right? It's like, it might be something like that. It could also just be like, you know, he's just not used to the intensity of the Earth's sun

going through those window shades. I mean, like, I think there's all sorts of ways. It could also just be a thing of like, he's actually panicking and that's how it's manifesting it. I didn't have a huge problem with that, but I do wonder. I didn't have a problem with it. Yeah, but I do wonder exactly what's going on.

I was absolutely pissed. Anyway, he ends up being separated from them. I love Sanders fucking up the Zaku. That's very, very satisfying. Hell yeah. But I do really like the thing of the element of one of the guys in the squad is like, cause he gets separated from the squad, right?

He's in the jungle by himself. They don't know where he is. He's outside of detection range. And they're like, we can't send out a rescue team for him because it'll humiliate him on his first day. And then he'll lose the respect of a detection range. And they're like, we can't send out a rescue team for him because it'll humiliate him on his first day. And then he'll lose the respect of everybody. I like that like, you know, realist consideration. I also like-

Nice beat of writing. Because I don't think it's said, the reason they can't just like ping him is because of this particle that has been invented that makes like you disappear into a fog of war. Yeah, they don't say that. They're just like, he's out of detection range and he's alone.

So he's out all night. It's barely dawn, but it's already hotter than shit. I love that he just hates the earth. What a funny guy to be. Fuck the earth. This place sucks. This sucks up here. I miss space. I could go back into my air-conditioned coffin.

I fucking hate it here. This fresh air is nasty. It smells like shit. If you go outside in space you die I hate the space noise. Yeah, let's kill him So he hates earth he's out all night he wakes up. He's alone. He's outside of his Mac He strips down of his suit because he gets super hot trips in some mud, walks to it, gets shocked by leeches. Yeah, that's fucking-

The leeches were wriggling just a little too much and I was like, this is nasty. Well, yeah, I felt like, I was like, there's no way there are leeches in nature in the colonies. Like, they wouldn't have exported leeches. There'd be no reason for that to be there. So like it really makes it seem like earth is alien when you see a leech.

You're like, oh, this place is, you're in Pandora, baby. Like that shit. I do for some reason, I'm so afraid of leeches. I think they're so nasty. I would never encounter a leech. I would hate it. I'd be so mad I'd be so mad if I was ever a tick got me any sort of bug that can stay on you absolutely not. Yeah I don't you're not doing that get out of here kill me first dog What about those bugs those like scarabs from the mummy? Yeah, I don't get in your skin So he walks to a lake he's drinking he's washing his face we see some titties

Was not expecting I was expecting either it was in the It is in the preview and the preview. I was like what wait. What are we seeing the preview here? What's going on? Press play on the second one immediately? So there's a there's a skin There's a woman skinny dipping and she she like emerges You'll see a lot and then she's like swimming on her back if you're still seeing a lot of stuff But he says something so funny in the dub He says whoa

That's a real woman. This is pretty good These are keeping for it feels like 10 minutes Like he's like in the ground and he kind of like it Not even really paying that much attention he's's just like, I don't even care. In full view, just waiting to be noticed. So I wonder if this aired, I don't know if you know, but when this aired on Toonami, there's no way they included the boobs, right?

No, of course not. They can't imagine they did. No fucking way. Yeah. No way. Toonami censored a lot of shit. Yeah. I mean, I think when Sailor Moon was airing here, they also, they changed one of the relationships between the girls to being like related family

instead of being like lovers. Right. So like, even like stuff that was just spoken was censored. Yeah. So, but it is a thing of just like, oh man, that this was just in an anime. It's just, again, it's just there was nothing in the US that was being produced like this at the time.

Yeah. Anyway. We used to have it all. Yeah. Yeah. She, we also cut back to Ina and her brother. Do we know the brother's name yet? I don't know if we've learned that yet.

I don't remember. But they're talking about the, is it the obelisk? What's the thing they're talking about in the battlefield? They're talking about some new. It's a new weapon. A new weapon on the battlefield. And they're also, yeah, they're getting very full Jersey here. Very, very handy.

They're just like sitting too close. You could have that conversation like across a table. I don't mind it. I don't mind it being kind of weird. No, I loved it. Yeah, I don't have siblings, so I don't know how close you'd sit, but I would, even I was like,

I think you can't sit that close. They were sitting almost like Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore in Ghost, like that close. I was like, that's pretty close. It was intimate. You would not do that with a sibling. No. All the references to pull,

to describe two people close to each other. That's about as close as you can get. He was practically, I mean, he was a ghost. He was practically phased into her. Yeah. Huh. Gaze right on top of her. That's a good movie.

I haven't seen it since I was a kid. I only remember hell. I only remember the ghosts coming up from hell to drag you down to hell and being like, why is that in this movie? It's scary. That's a bad person. He's being punished for his sins. Gotta go to hell, his ass is getting dragged there.

I'm sick of saying otherwise. If you're bad, you have to go to hell. I'm tired of acting like people that are bad can go to heaven, no. Hell only. I'm sick of this shit. You're getting dragged there. So the woman with her tits out, she gets a handgun, she notices this guy being creepy and fires at him,

he runs away, but she's like, he looks like a Fed pilot, and then she also later spies him in his Gundam, is like, hmm, okay, I'ma file this away for later. My favorite thing about that too was that, I'm just thinking about the two days that he's had, he was like, two days in a row, two different women have shot at me. My life sucks.

He's like, here's the thing, like this is purely fan service, this is very gratuitous. There's no reason for this to be in here, but I'm not complaining. But she was having a splash, that's all right. You're allowed to have a splash. I feel like the relationship with naked bodies is just a little bit culturally different in Japan than it is here.

Like, I mean, it's obviously it's titillating. It's supposed to like he's like, whoa, check it out. Yeah. But also it does seem to be like the relationship to nudity doesn't seem to be as like, no, rigid. Because also she wasn't like, she didn't do that good of a job like covering up. Like she like covered one. Yeah.

One. It's at once it's like a lot of things. It's like at once more prudish and more libertine. Yeah. It's both at once versus America. Anyway, so we have this whole thing. Shiro spies on other Zaku. Love him, love how he goes and is like,

you know, I'm gonna go take this guy out. And this is just the battles are really cool. Like the big mech battles are really fun in here. BOOSH! BOOSH! BOOSH! That's the type of stuff going on. The dude's got one arm and he's still like blasting at him. He's still coming at me. He fucks him up. I love the hole that goes through the back of it.

I like that he gets his axe. Yeah, the axe is awesome. Yeah, the axe is fucking good. And it's like a vibrating axe. The subtitle called it, I think like a flame axe or something and I was like hell yeah, that fucking rules. Everyone thinks the commander's dead back at the base including the little nerd writing in his journal who's got the VO stuff

I don't know what what that guy's deal is so far, but he seems like an eager beaver Anyway, but then he's coming back to base he's sleeping in the Gundam as it's heading home by the way awesome It's really like he's got he's got the fucking Gundam on autopilot It's really like he's got he's got the fucking Gundam on autopilot Walking so obviously you can set it because like I I really fixate on like how the Gundam How you control the Gundam because I know that like if you're flying a jet There's a million different buttons in there, and there's like all kinds of shit You can do with a jet, but I'm like how do you how do you like tell it to? Run forward while also turning its torso to fire a gun behind you But I'm like, how do you tell it to run forward

while also turning its torso to fire a gun behind you? But then again, I can do those kinds of movements with just a control pad in a video game. So it's not like it's impossible to program conceptually, but him pressing a button, having it walk to base, and then falling asleep, I'm like that's fucking awesome but also horrifying like what if he doesn't wake up in time it seems well yeah, right cuz like It hopefully he has some sort of alert

Some shit going on wake up But like it's the only mech anime that I've seen is Evangelion so like these Mechs I identify them as different. Yeah, because these are Mechanical yeah, they're robots In the evas are not no Or you know for the most part, but the evas are ladies. Yeah, they're organic And I but I love it. I, I, I, it's making me want to, uh, boot up, um, Armored Corps 6,

which I never finished. Hey! But I, I'm in a bit of a mech mood. I think these two episodes are great, just as, as sort of setting everything up. I love starting in space and then going to Earth. I love it feeling foreign, uh foreign to the to their our protagonist. And it's just it's it's all just like really, really cool animated sequences. I don't know.

I had a blast watching these two episodes. I'm glad we're doing this series. Me too. You have no idea how happy I am. I'm very excited because, yeah, I'm excited just to see more Gundam and see some more cool shit. Cool. Oh. Because you were saying how many Gundam series there are in the Universal Timeline.

Do you have a rough guess of how many episodes there are in the Universal Timeline that you've seen? Oh, boy. I would expect it's in the hundreds, but it's probably not quite the one piece run. I would get, well, so let's assume that there's like 40 to 50 to the mainline series. So that's like

150, uh, 200, probably 225, um, and then like all the smaller series probably have about 12. So let's say 12 times 4 So where am I at now 275? Yeah somewhere around there. Yeah somewhere around. I bet there's I

Bet I've watched somewhere around 275 to 300 episodes of cut Wow a lot of content Wait, we're saying a second ago, but the the mech of on autopilot. I was I would just I remembered like last week I was walking, and I was walking in front of like, there's a stop car at a stop sign I was walking in front of and I realized as I was like in the street that it was a driverless Waymo. Oh, I saw that for the first time today.

But like as a pedestrian it's really jarring to have a driverless car stopped at a stop sign that you're walking in front of. Wait, that's... Isn't that fucking horrifying? Yeah, I saw my first Waymo today. And I was like, there's now a thing I've just gotta get used to.

I'm just gonna potentially be run over by a Waymo every time I'm out on the street. There are Waymos about? They're all in about, you can hail them now. And they're covered with visible sensors, I think, which is a psychological, because I don't think those sensors need to be this, like, predominant on the design of the car.

I think they're covered in visual sensors so that you, a pedestrian, or you, a driver, are like, oh, this driverless car has covered in cameras. Therefore it must be safer. I vow right here on Get Animated, for as long as I live, I will never get an away mo. Wow. I won't do it. I'm gonna get in one tomorrow.

I have no interest. I wanna hail one and put on my Applevision Pro and just sit in the back seat going Desire to do that I have no desire to hail one of those little snack robots. I Know the snack robots piss me. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing any of that no thing What are your first? It's a it's a thing you can say now and I admire it. I have a feeling you're gonna be when they just basically usher all the human drivers

out of the workforce and Waymo is left as your only ride share solution. You're gonna be in a driverless one at a certain point, unfortunately. It's cool that we reinvented taxis, made it worse for the drivers, and are now kicking them out of their fucking car. That's awesome. That fucking rules. I love that.

I just feel like, here's what I think we should do. I'm gonna kill a Waymo. Here's what I think we should do. I think if you, I think, I think if you're a taxi driver and your job is being taken away literally by a driverless car, I feel like there should be some sort of government compensation to be like, you were phased out by artificial intelligence, here is your monthly paycheck. Yeah. Like, I love that.

I feel like because then it would also change the pace of there would be a Penalty for for displacement of jobs, but not necessarily a full stop to Industrialization and progress. I have a funnier die sketch Now now's the time It's it's taxi driver the movie, uh-huh, but Travis Bickle is replaced by a Waymo. And then it sort of works out where you're sort of like, you know what, he's actually not that crazy to be this mad. I thought you were going to say that the Waymo is like looking in the mirror and being like,

he's talking to me? Yeah, that's what I thought you were doing. No, no, no. You're sort of like, I'm on Travis's side. Yeah. Yeah, he's actually good Yeah, make sense that he takes a first date to a porno movie I did I was thinking about that recently and I was like if I was if I was on used to be mod I I would have made this a sketch and be like, what do you think of the poor like it was good right she's like no that was like really weird like there's like other movies out do you take me to a porno movie I don't know other movies only movies I fucking weird insane man

sorry I shoot a politician we can go see another movie. How about this? No, that's a poor See another movie Let's see what's playing in the big tits theater Tore see movies you want some popcorn no, okay No, okay Come on let me on mod night for one month watching jaws, and he's like there's no fucking in this What is happening like why are these guys on this boat for so long eat E.T.'s pretty ugly, but I would fuck him. I've maybe told this story before.

I've definitely told it on other podcasts, but I had a friend who was, when I was a kid, his family was evangelical, and we were over at his house once with him and me and my friend and then his older brother and his older brother's friend. And his parents were like, okay, we're going next door to have dinner with the neighbors you kids are on your own as soon as they leave the older kids

Are like let's get the pornos and they go and they go get a bunch of VHS tapes from like the dad stash again This is a family of evangelical Christians. We're so we start watching these porno movies. I'm like eight years old So I don't know what I'm looking at. I'm so like baffled. So we're watching I'm watching I've like've never seen a boob, and now we're watching hardcore pornography. Yeah, insane. We're watching this. And there's some straight sex on it,

but there's a lot of gay porn on these tapes. And they get to, so when we get to a gay porn scene, the older kids are like, oh, they start to fast forward, it's forward. Oh, it's a bad one. Let's get through this one Your dad's got a lot of bad ones Insane what a what a fucking nightmare what a disaster Yeah Also going to dinner with the neighbors. I'd rather kill myself. A different time.

Yeah, the only people you know are the people that you see at church or next door. That sucks. They didn't have Facebook. They didn't have Facebook. Any other thoughts on the first two episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam the 8th MS team? I'm just happy to be here. I'm of Mobile Suit Gundam, the eighth MS team. I'm just happy to be here. I'm happy to see Gundam. I'm ready to see what all the hype's about.

I know that Heather loves Gundam and this is, I like when we watch something that Heather really loves. Yeah, really fun. I really, really love this. I mean, it's really, it is the moment that changed a Fandom for me like this is like And it doesn't this the eighth MS team is not necessarily

Star Wars, but it became Star Wars like it'd be it like was like oh my god This is great. Yes, I can and there's so much of it to watch. Oh wow, I'm gonna get to watch so much of this. If you are a listener or a Matt or a Nick, and you're like, you enjoy this, I recommend War in the Pocket as your second very small Gundam series. War of the Pocket. War in the Pocket. In the Pocket, War in the Pocket. War in the Pocket. Sounds like a battle between Blackberry and iPhone

Which was my my second? Gundam show sounds like before I was like I'm committing my life night I went past it because I didn't like it War in the roses is it or I'm sorry war in the the Roses, War in the Pocket, War of the Roses is a different thing. Yeah. Is the other recommendation? I was going to ask that, so thank you for adding that.

Yep. And then if you like both of those, then go back, start from the beginning, let's fucking go, Gundam is the best. Wow. Such a fun series to be covering. I'm really glad we're on the other side of animahem. But y'all out there listening, some of you watched last week's series and you sent in your thoughts.

So it's time for Chain Reactions, Plu Talk, Community Leveling, and a Maybe We Were Wrong on Clockwork Planet. Tick tock, tick tock. What? Community leveling and a maybe we were wrong on a clockwork planet tick-tock tick-tock What that's what clocks? No, I know what but you did it like you were the Riddler or something tick-tock tick-tock Maybe I'm the Riddler. I don't think you that I mean you could be num locks, right? Know you were the Riddler so fast fast yeah, I'd be wearing a fucking green suit It looks insane Riddler ass he changes name to Edward Nigma

By the way Batman solving that that like greatest detective on earth and he's like Edward Nigma yeah Nigma head scratcher yeah Edward Nigma he's the thing is he's a good detective but he's also an idiot he's dumb Alfred put on a pot of coffee it's gonna be all nighter you don't have to do this like no no no fuck is this enigma guy I'm gonna go just beat up some thugs until I figure this one out. I'm basically a cop. Do you know who my dad is?

Numblocks writes, I eat cereal dry out of the box and it's fucking awesome. Oh okay. We talked about cereal last week. Interesting. Okay great. I guess Numblocks is not a milk person. They're not a milk person I think that's a valid way to eat cereal however you want to snack on it. Yeah However you like do you see these doughnuts that put cereal on it?

Like it'll be like it never worked. Yeah Too soft also the only doughnut is plain or sugar cinnamon because donuts are only supposed to be with a black cup of coffee. Oh man, I love like a maple bar. Maple. I love like a buttermilk.

Y'all fuck with apple fritters though? Yeah, I love an apple fritter. That's like a home run donut. Plain donut, glazed donut, or cinnamon sugar. Got nothing to be against a great glazed donut or a great plain cake donut Those are a lot of fun, but I Sample all donut varietals. I like in the in the plane division all the plane one

Yeah, yeah all the normal ones that you'd see at a regular pink box Those are great once you start putting fucking fruit loops on them or You know other types of stuff it's too much. Your mouth doesn't want to negotiate a fruit loop inside of a donut bite. It's already shaped like a donut too. Yeah it shreds the top of your mouth while you're like trying to get a soft bite. I'll go as far as like a bacon maple donut is good But it's also like I'll just have a regular maple one and think it's as good as the one with bacon on it Yeah, better and what I want you get to I mean like look some some crushed nuts. Maybe some sprinkles

I'm not above some sprinkles or some shaved coconut I can maybe do but I agree with you on cereal on top of donuts with yeah You know what you should put on a donut another Another donut. Matt! I'm just saying. It's like Homer Simpson right here. They're doing this, this cake pops, give me a donut whole kebab. That does sound fun. That's good shit.

That does sound good. I talked about, I said this on Dough Boys that I had a dream that I came up with a new item, a donut salad, and what it is is you take a donut, you chop that son of a new item, a donut salad. And what it is is you take a donut, you chop that son of a bitch up, you throw it in a bowl, and then you have toppings you can put on that. So like, hey, you wanna put a caramel drizzle?

I wanna put some whipped cream on that. I wanna throw some sprinkles on that. That's actually a pretty good idea. Yeah, that sounds fun, right? And you know what? If you want, hey, I'm gonna do a twofer. Take two donuts, we dice them up, we throw them in a bowl, we throw some toppings on it.

You want some fresh strawberries on that? Why not? Go nuts. It's your doughnut salad. I would like to try it. I can't say if it's a good idea or not, I would like to try it. You know, if you were pitching this at like a shark tank or something, I would have to take a couple bites. Yeah. See what I'm getting at. I'd have some ready for you to try. Oh yeah.

I like it, I like it. And I know Mark Cuban's favorite topping, so he'd be, you know. Yeah. And I'm gonna be like like this deals all over the place And for that reason I'm out Herkivick's got my back right come on herkivick You guys ever see that shark tank with the guy who tries to get slap ball This is so this was a predecessor to shark Tank. This was like Dragon's Den or whatever

It was a different format and it was I've made the show that inspired it and it's got this game is bullet ball And yes, I've seen this clip like a hundred times. It's so good. It's one of the most depressing things I've ever seen Yeah, bullet ball. I'm gonna search that cuz that sounds um, it's the guy extremely my shit This guy invented this new game They calls bullet ball and it's like a game where basically you have a you have a Ball a special ball on a table on the surface of a table, and you're basically playing air hockey with your hands But he's like basically my whole life has been developing bullet ball like my wife left me. I'm living in my car I'm like all of my resources in a bullet ball, then he demos it for them and it sucks so bad.

And they're all just like, this is a bad idea. You need to get your life together. They're all just telling him and he's so stubborn. He's so like convinced that this is like genius and that no one can see it. There's a really funny scene in I think in early season. It's like season two of Better Call Saul. Yeah. It's like season two of better call Saul. Yeah, Tim Balz is a Is a he is it's a brief role. He calls

Jimmy Saul Goodman to Come do some patent law. He's like, I don't really do that I'm kind of just breaking in seeing what I can do He has this new toilet that he's trying to get kids to potty train on and it has like its voice Activated and it says stuff like You filled me up. Thank you It's so so fun skate This what this one is from the mooch David moochie mooch

I'm mooch It was a fun month funny that you mentioned watching anime pilots because my own version of anime him this month was to watch the first episodes of every anime series on my short list to watch next. So far I've watched the pilots of Steins Gate, Hunter Hunter, Naruto, Banana Fish, Code Geass, is that how you say it?

Geese? Geese. Code Geass, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood and Yu Yu Hakusyu. The problem is now I still want to binge all of them Yeah, those are all pretty excellent series. I love that plan though. Yeah, I'll see what takes Perhaps that's what we'll do um Next anime hem if we decide to do it again. Oh this one is from MK mortal comment

Dragonball and Dragon Ball Z are the pinnacle of ape anime no contest. Wow. We were talking last week about how there's no apes anime. Ape anime. Given that it's maybe the most widely known anime as well, I think Weiger's point about ape entertainment might be correct. Mankind has always been fascinated by apes. Don't keep saying it because we're going to have to put it on a shirt or something.

Like he in quotes attributed to you. It should be on a shirt. People can agree with it. People see it and go, hmm, that's true. Next one is from Steven Pistachio. Hello. Hello, Steven Pistachio. Hi, Steven Pistachio. Heather cannot Hello, Steven Pistachio. Hi, Steven Pistachio.

Heather cannot prefer FMA to Brotherhood. Madness. Hey, it's a difference in taste. I think it's just because, again, I've seen both, but I saw FMA first, and again, that it got ahead of the manga, so they had to invent what was happening, and their invention was

Fully fucking crazy. They did this with Game of Thrones as well right like those books aren't done So they're like let's just guess I I wish I could spoil FMA for you guys But I'm worried that at some point in the future you'd want to see it it. I'm I cannot stress enough how jaw-dropping the choice they made was. I mean... Like, I've never seen a show even considering sugar on Apple TV. I was gonna say, I just watched Apple TV's Sugar and this is big talk. It's bigger than Sugar.

Wow, okay. It's fucking crazy what they did. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued, okay. It's it's fucking crazy what they did. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. Yeah There's the filler thing is such a thing cuz like they do the current Demon Slayer arc that that that's out now It's like there's an ad it's it's really slow pace, and I guess there's an episode is reading about this where it's like There there the whole episode is adapting 1.5 pages of manga It's and that's the kind of thing where I'm just kind of like, what am I doing here?

I like this series, but do I want to commit to watching this? You know? Wow. That's something to look forward to. There was even a movie based on the original continuity of FMA. Really? Yeah. Where they had to be like, okay, so what we said,

here's a movie about it We said all that but actually here's the movie this next one is from Jesse Jesse Jesse writes mr.. White We got a cook mr.. White bitch I Got breaking bad on the brain. What could I say? Jesse actually said. Oh jeez. I was so lost that I was like, okay, is this part? No, this part is real. That stuff that before I did was fake.

Jesse actually says, so in the end I feel like Animahem was a good representation of the ratio of good anime to bad anime For every fantastic show there are two or three pieces of garbage looking forward to seeing this series return again in the future Cool, yeah hit rate 40% I guess yeah, not too bad too bad get you in the baseball all-fame Is is the wait suit has no one did no one comment on clockwork plan? Nobody has really like said anything about it.

They're just like, I enjoyed the month or maybe anime was a mistake. There was one comment that I saw about that commented on the anime. This one's from Buddy Jones. Hi, Buddy Jones. Clockwork Planet reminded me of those animes based on mobile gotcha games.

That's a side of anime that I have never explored before. I really enjoyed animating him, but I think Nick has the right idea to just go with the first episode. Yeah, yeah. That's the fix for the next one. This next one is from Zach Tenenhouse. Wow, Tenenhouse.

Zach writes, this whole month really makes me appreciate the fact that Evangelion exists. And that's it for the chain reaction. Thanks for writing in and let us know what you thought of Mobile Suit Gundam, the eighth MS set, the eighth MS team. And we'll talk about it next week when we watch episodes three and four. You don't get to Evangelion without Mobile Suit Gundam.

So that's what we're exploring here. Yeah, and you don't get to Evangelion without anime in general. Wow. In the beginning, there was nothing. Then there was Evangelion, and then anime was born. That is true. Yeah, yeah, that is really good.

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