Get Played - Get Anime'd Unlocked: Sonic The Hedgehog OVA Watchalong

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

Matt, Heather and Nick watch and discuss the 1996 anima OVA Sonic The Hedgehog! Follow us on social media @getplayedpod. Music by David Schmoll. Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com.... For ad-free main feed episodes, our complete back catalogue including How Did This Get Played? and our Premium DLC episodes and our exclusive show Get Anime'd go to patreon.com/getplayed. Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at getplayedpod@gmail.com Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Welcome to Get Animated, the anime watch along podcast with the hosts of Get Played. I'm self-proclaimed char horse statue, Heather Ann Campbell. I'm self-proclaimed walking shark, Nick Weiger. And I'm self-proclaimed Matt the podcaster, Matt Apodaca. Hello everyone. Hello everyone and welcome back to the premier anime podcast where we're doing that fun thing we do.
Starting point is 00:01:02 We're going to watch an anime and we're going to provide live commentary right here as you watch it with us. That's right. This is a true watch-along, and also, you know, you don't have to use this as a commentary track. Hopefully, this will stand as a piece of audio in its own right. I doubt it. I mean, it will.
Starting point is 00:01:19 No, it will. Absolutely will. People will just be able to listen to this. I do think in this day and age where you can listen to recorded media sure it is baffling to me that like DVD Commentaries are just non-existent now I I'm surprised that there is not an app
Starting point is 00:01:40 Mm-hmm that is like a podcasting app like you know any of these podcasting apps dedicated to Film commentary by not either by stars or directors or Tertiary comedy podcasts yeah, you know that you can't like oh, I'm gonna watch Armageddon I want to watch it with the original Ben Affleck Armageddon, I wanna watch it with the original Ben Affleck behind the scenes stuff. Or I'm gonna listen to the how did this get made track. Or I'm gonna listen to, oh, there's like a guy
Starting point is 00:02:15 who worked exclusively on practical effects on this movie. He talks his way through it. Because you can find sites that archive what the tracks are yeah But like yeah It would be nice if there was a storehouse of what not just descriptions of and which ones were worthwhile and ratings of them But like hey, here's how you can actually listen to all of these that would be nice or even just as an all Is impossible on like Netflix. I think that is the thing. Yeah, it's like a logistical nightmare, but I do I used to love You know DVD commentaries were like some of the first podcasts. I would like listen to I would just
Starting point is 00:02:49 original podcasts yeah, yeah interesting Have you I had I got to do one once really yeah, and It sucked I hated doing it, and I never want to do it again. Well. We're gonna do it right now all right We also pulled our self-proclaimed from some other anime because we have not watched this in advance. That anime is What We've Been Weeb'n. What We've Been Weeb'n. Hi, it's me, Ash Ketchum from the world of Pokemon. And I'm here to ask you the question of the week.
Starting point is 00:03:22 What you been weeb'avin', Nick Weiger? I choose you! Thanks so much, Ash. I said anime, but actually I've been weavin' a manga. I read the Junji Ito manga, Gyo, which I would characterize as the complete opposite of the movie we're about to watch. This is a movie where sea life begin walking on the ground
Starting point is 00:03:49 This is a movie where sea life began walking on the ground and it leads to basically the complete destruction of society. There is a mechanical side to this that gets explored as the premise continues on. But so much of it is it starts where fish are walking And then like larger sea creatures start walking and then that leads to more things, you know becoming a like like a Kind of like in the zombified state Walking on these mechanical rigs But the big issue is that the everything just smells like death and just the death stench is permeating everywhere. Oh, here's what I like about Junji Ito besides like just the absolute grotesque imagery, which he is just the you know, the best at depicting.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I said there was a manga panel I sent to the group chat from this that was just an absolute nightmare to look at. And it's not even the worst thing in the book. I'm just going to stop you right there for a second. That was one of the worst things I've ever seen But he I mean you're about to say what you like about it one of the things I like about him Is that this motherfucker's crazy? Yeah, it's it's it's sick shit But I think the other thing is like it's despite the grotesque because it's it's nasty, but it's also like funny It's it's both those things at once what a funny market that guy has cornered
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yes, like it's like he is a brand name for making fucking awful shit well, you look at this you look at this manga and I honestly wonder if There's elements that are commonalities with like the human centipede. And I would not be shocked if like a body horror, you know, a person like someone who's crafting like something like the human centipede had like drawn on Juji Ito as a source because it is like, it's the same sort of ship. Anyway, the other thing is like his works don't really follow a traditional narrative. They almost have more of an anthology or even like a sketch feel.
Starting point is 00:05:45 It does make you think in terms of like – and this is like an improv principle, but it's very much explored this way in this horror manga. If this, then what? If this is true, then what else is true? If fish start walking on land and they spell horrible, then what else does that lead to? This is just a sequence of that. Like each chapter in this manga is just like another consequence of, you know, these dominoes that are falling from the inciting incident.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And it has just an incredibly bleak ending, which is just like – this is the thing. I think just a lot of times it's just like, hey, sometimes there's a disaster and we just live in the aftermath and that just becomes a disaster and we just live in the aftermath and that just becomes normalized and then we just live in this awful new world. And you know what? That is very pertinent to now. That feels super contemporary.
Starting point is 00:06:33 That is like, feels like our experience. It was like, hey, some new horrible thing is happening. And you know what? Now that's just gonna happen all the time and no one's gonna do anything about it. That's just a thing we're just gonna get used to and become numb to. Yeah, this new thing you just heard about,
Starting point is 00:06:46 it's really bad and it's also too late. It's also too late, it's gonna keep happening. But anyway, there is a film adaptation of this manga that I have to track down because I have no idea how you'd make this into a movie because it is insane. And I like even like, not even, I don't even mean realizing it visually,
Starting point is 00:07:02 I just mean like structuring it. Like I don't know how you adapt this Without fundamentally changing his nature and maybe that's what it does and maybe that's from what I've read that the movie's not great Maybe that's part of the reason but it's a really really cool Graphic novel really really cool manga. I'm glad I finally read it. Yo Heather what you've been we've been over there. I've read you I love it. Yeah, I'm really happy that you read it. I have a small Junji Ito section on my manga bookshelf. Me as well. It's nice seeing him there,
Starting point is 00:07:30 because it always reminds you that there's worse things. So I guess, speaking of bookshelves, what I've weaved this week is a purchase. And it's been a while since I bought myself something, like a figurine, a model kit, whatever. I've been trying really hard to, my goal has been to have my trash can half empty every week when I roll it out onto the street.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So I'm trying to purchase less and less and less. Oh, that's an interesting approach. Yeah. Some might think of it as half full. Right, sure. But I've largely succeeded. I've had like a two bag, like in a household with me and my wife,
Starting point is 00:08:18 like a two bag garbage rolled out on the street. Largely from being conscious of buying fewer things. Yeah, buying fewer things, buying fewer packages. Right. Going and getting a soup in a glass jar and bringing it back to the grocery store. Love doing that. Yeah, but I did make a purchase.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And for this setup here, I wanna know if you guys are familiar with the viral video, look at that horse. Oh yeah, I've seen, look at that horse. I don't think, I know, look at that horse. I think we should've seen look at that horse. I don't think, I know look at that horse. I think we should watch it. Yeah, let's put the start up there. Can you Google a video for us, Branch?
Starting point is 00:08:53 Can you Google, probably on YouTube, look at that horse? There it is. The Home Shopping Network, there's one on the top. Oh, we don't wanna watch the Tosh.0 one? Other than me. 18 years ago. I'll print, and we'll print it out. Now while we're doing that,
Starting point is 00:09:12 let me show you something really impressive. That picture, remember the picture of the horse I showed you earlier? Well, here it is, blown up. You fucking idiot. Order now, you get the camera, you get the printer. 4X optical zoom. Schneider lens.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Photo printer. SD card. Look at that horse. Why won't he just say that it's wrong? The hooves. Okay, my producer, Terracade's, just told me this isn't a horse, it's a bug. Okay, my producer Terrick Gates just told me this isn't a horse it's a bug. Actually, it may in fact be a moth. But look at what the zoom did. I mean you can see details in the camera.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Oh my god. Really good. So to ask a question that probably nobody knows the answer to, did he think that was a horse for real or what happened? It's an incomprehensible clip. That's what makes it funny. The more times you watch it, the less you can understand what is happening because he gestures, like when he's like, look at this horse,
Starting point is 00:10:15 you imagine him behind the image. Yes. But then he starts pointing to parts of a butterfly and saying, look at the hooves, the beautiful mane and he's pointing to a butterfly. And then somebody tells him that it's not a horse. And he kind of sounds like he doesn't believe it. He's like, my producer's telling me that this is a butterfly.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Also, I feel like I have to point this out, this is the hardest ranchers left at anything we've ever done on the show. Well, in the... So now look at that horse has become a Beyonce thing. Because she says look at that horse in a song in Cowboy Carter. Interesting. in a song in Cowboy Carter.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Oh. Well. Interesting. I assume it's not a reference. The original 18 years ago clip on YouTube. Look at that horse, a Schneider lens. Look at that horse. So in honor of that and in honor of bookshelves, what we were talking about earlier,
Starting point is 00:11:22 I bought something from my bookshelf, in honor of bookshelves, what we were talking about earlier. I bought something from my bookshelf, which is a colossal, ostentatious sculpture of my friend, Char Aznable.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Wow. Riding a horse. Wow, look at that horse. Look at that horse. Look at that horse. It is an enormous sculpture, which I did get permission from my wife to purchase. Yeah, you have to. How big are we talking?
Starting point is 00:11:54 Chest sized. Wow. So it's like as big as your Godzilla? It is a huge fucking horse. That was cool there. But yeah, I purchased this because I showed it to my wife and I went, look at this horse. She didn't know what I was doing. And she went, oh, that's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Cause we have like a rustic look on our book in our library area. And she's like, do you think we should have that in the library? And I was like, I do, but I didn't think you would. And she's like, I think we should have that in the library, and I was like I I do But I didn't think you would and she's like I think you should get that char sculpture. That's nice That's really really good, so I have this enormous char on a horse great-looking skull I'm looking at the scale here between char and the horse and it is I Here's what I'm gonna say I
Starting point is 00:12:42 Don't think horses are scary Here's what I'm gonna say. I don't think horses are scary, but I can see how somebody might think they're scary because they're fucking massive. They're so fucking big. Well, huge. But also, Char is a little guy. Is he a little guy?
Starting point is 00:12:54 He is canonically a little guy. Okay. And this horse is so big that I think Char's shoulder would be below the back of the horse if he was standing. Cause that's a big horse. It's a big fucking horse. But horses in general, I guess I'm a little guy myself,
Starting point is 00:13:11 horses are pretty big. They're too big. I don't like, cause they could kill you with a single kick. Oh yeah. They're scary as shit. I've seen, you know, all of the Char media that exists. I cannot recall him riding a horse,
Starting point is 00:13:27 which is also part of why this is incredible. Yeah, that rocks. The thing is the horse looks real. The horse is photorealistic. Yeah, it's a really impressive schooner. And the char is there. It's a horse that evokes like the Michelangelo horses or the Da Vinci horses.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Like it's like veiny muscular, like writhing, sweating, salivating horse. A vascular turgid pumping horse. And then Char is also realistically sculpted. Like there's folds in his fabric his glove is Delicately pulling on the reins of the horse. He is expressionless as always, but it is char He's got like a cartoon a cartoon man's head either way really cool a guy like this rides up on a horse, too You know you're already fucking yeah, there's nothing you can do you're in trouble
Starting point is 00:14:24 And so that's also why when he doesn't do anything, you're confused and a little bit hypnotized. What is this guy's plan? What does he want? That's the essence of char asinible. I'm glad you have that. Yeah, that's rad. That's rad.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I'm gonna put it right, I have the actual helmet. Did you not know? Like a human scale helmet? Wait, you guys didn't know this? I wear it to work. I'm sure put it right, I have the actual helmet. Did you not know? Like a human scale helmet? Wait, you guys didn't know this? I wear it to work. I'm sure I must have. I wear it to work. You wear it to work?
Starting point is 00:14:51 You maybe just told us this before, but I don't. I wear it to work. I wear it to work. I have the replica char helmet, which can fit on your head. Yeah. How have you not been on the news? What? What?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Local women seen wearing giant helmet. Yeah, no, I've worn it to work. It's it's fun to wear um as a As like a an accent as like a part of your wardrobe or like as as a bicycle helmet You know I don't want to ride a bike in that helmet. I'll die you can barely see out of it Wow No, it's like I bring it, I put it on when I'm stuck. Got it. To be fun, to be like,
Starting point is 00:15:32 maybe I'll put on the char helmet and think better. Break things up a little bit. Think three times faster. I can see myself doing the exact same thing and people being like, don't do that. What are you doing? It's helpful when the helmet is not
Starting point is 00:15:48 anything, like if you put on a Vader helmet, people are like, yeah. But the char helmet is not- Or that talking Chewbacca mask. The char helmet, nobody knows what it is really. So it's just like, what is that? What is she doing? It's possible it's an heirloom.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah. But I think I'm gonna put the horse next to the helmet. I think you should do the show in the helmet sometime. Okay. No problem. Tell you what, I wanna see this horse in person. Love to take a look at this horse. Oh, okay. Well, I don't know if I'll care.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I mean, maybe I. No, you don't need to bring it in, but I'm just saying, like, wherever, over at your place, again, I'll take a look at that horse. Look at this. look Nick's promising to take a look to look at one thing in your home Oh God need a break from the crowded stores and the endless give lists? Restore your zen and embrace the natural power of cannabis. This holiday season with VIA. This holiday season, unwind and recharge with VIA. Whether you're enjoying a quiet evening at home or embracing the festive cheer, VIA's premium THC and THC free
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Starting point is 00:21:32 You guys should come over and play 32X, which is my transition to Sonic the Hedgehog the Movie. Wow. 1996. Sonic the Hedgehog, this is an OVA that was released in 1996, it was a two-part OVA in Japan that was re-edited into a short self-contained movie for American release. The runtime is about 53 minutes. I just had a full existential crisis in that in that moment of quiet Because I realized when I said you guys should come over and play 32x. Yeah, but that is a question
Starting point is 00:22:03 I have been asking people Since I was a child and nobody ever has Yeah, you have two controllers yeah, I've got two controllers. And the Sonic game for 32X, Knuckles Chaotix, is two people on screen at the same time with a rubber band style effect between them. And you have to cooperate to get through the levels. Baffling. That sounds crazy. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Sounds chaotic. It is chaotic. It was a tough problem to solve. I mean, because they do the split screen, but on that CRT, you'd have so little real estate to work with. And was it Sonic 2 where you'd get super squished, your proportions?
Starting point is 00:22:51 I don't remember what it was. It just didn't really look like it. So Knuckles Chaotix makes it so you can't move away from your partner. But there were a number of games that did that. And it works a little bit better if it's like top down or isometric. When it's a side scroll, it's a little clunky. All right, let's watch this OVA
Starting point is 00:23:06 So I will say this was apparently positively received and very commercially successful in the home video market in the US Because because we're like Sonic and parents are like our I will buy the Sonic movie that this kid can rewatch You know 20 times it was also the first Sonic property in North America to not feature Jaleel White in the title role. The first non-Jaleel sonic. Unfortunately a harbinger of things to come. So I assume we're watching the dub then. I'm almost positive this is the dubbed version that's been uploaded. We are going to count down. I've never seen this before. Has anyone seen this? Nope. I have not. Okay, we're gonna count down from three to one and begin this OVA. Here we go. Three,
Starting point is 00:23:50 two, one, go. I should have said Sega. Great Taki Corporation logo and sting there. That's great. That is wonderful. Didn't know they'd branch down to chips. Taki Corporation. Corporation is such a great word to have before a movie. Yeah, it rocks.
Starting point is 00:24:17 It's one of my favorite words. All right, so we've got some shots of monitors here. We've got some just sort of like, you know, this is not the highest quality transfer. Oh fuck, it's Metal Sonic! Yeah, Metal Sonic is a part of this. Holy shit, this rules so far! Metal Sonic is from Sega CD. He isn't Mecha Sonic, that is a different character.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Metal Sonic has the turbo intake on his chest and you raced against him to save Sally. He's also not a Sonic's metal dad Jules. He has a robot dad. Yeah Robotnik is now we're hearing his VO talking about as we're seeing his silhouette his cyber-metal Sonic. So far this fucking movie rules. This is great. This is really, really good. This is astonishing.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Sonic the Hedgehog Sting. Also, the music, pretty evocative of actual Sonic music. Yeah, this is great. We got a little saxophone lick here. Okay, some... Yeah, I don't know this character on sight. This is some sort of owl who is piloting a single person aircraft above the clouds. Well, there's like a fork in the road
Starting point is 00:25:43 in Sonic Cannon in the games even, because the Sega CD game became sort of non, it was like, canonic-esque. And like, Big the Cat, all those characters are on the like, main timeline. Sonic is enjoying a little vacay. Tails has a hoverboard it looks like. Sonic looks very cool with his sunglasses. Fucking Sonic looks- Looks like he's got a soda there.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Sonic looks awesome. He's so fucking cool. He's got those big ass like when back when the the like the regular sunnies were just like what you would wear in the ski slopes yeah Very 90s look they really snapped on his character design honestly they really don't rocks. I really like Sonic before the dreamcast redesign that like the retro look of Sonic without the like long spikes, I appreciate that. Look how much fun Tails is having.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Well, there've been some also the one continuous eyeball is a thing, right? Like at a certain point, they cleave them into two distinct eyeballs, but I do like the one big eyeball. Yeah. With two pupils. Disgusting.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Well, when you think about what you're actually seeing, yeah, it's disgusting. How they're on the original version of our show said it probably stinks. It's something to think about so much. A lot of the characters in this, like, Sonic is a good character, Tails is a very good character. I kind of think this guy sucks based on how he looks.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Owl? Yeah. Owl? Yeah. How many licks does it take to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop owl? Where did that come from, by the way, where owls are like so smart and collegic? I don't know. they look like it. They look like they're up to something, I know that. I gotta say, I'm extremely disappointed in the tone shift from that hard as fuck ice cold cold open. I'm excited, because that means it's gonna go down.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah, well this is like Saturday morning cartoon like Tomfoolery, Tales is flying after the the first episode of the first season of the first season. I'm excited because it's gonna that means it's gonna it's you something it's gonna go down yeah, well, this is like Saturday morning cartoon like tomfoolery tails is flying after the The aircraft with the owl that is on fire But I'm still just kicking it. I'm about to be in my Sebastian Maniscalco bag real quick. Why's the owl fine a fucking airplane? You can fly Right and where's all that smoke coming from my mom's lasagna?
Starting point is 00:28:42 Why is an owl that already has giant eyes wearing glasses to make his eyes big? Why are one of these characters wearing clothes? Alright. He's wearing shoes. Ooh! So that small bit of animation there is from the Sega CD opening. That first shot, they just lifted. Which is pretty nice. Same with this. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Those are pulled from the Sega CD intro. So Sonic is running along the sides of a canyon and then he casually rescued both Tails and the owl. I wonder if this company that made this is the company that did the full animation for the front of Sonic CD You could try to find out. Do you think it's a coincidence that these flowers look like Sonic? What the hell someone drew the background independently is ah fuck shit man 90s dubbed anime is so insane. How do you mean? It's just like people being like,
Starting point is 00:29:45 whoa, what are you talking about? I don't know what you're talking about. You gotta be careful over there. I'm not gonna be careful. Like it's just like, it's not like people emoting. It's just, it's very weird. It's just talking to fill the space. Yeah, I wonder if there was a little bit
Starting point is 00:30:04 in the dubbing process of too much adherence to like, well, we gotta get lip flap right. Like that's the most important part. I'm not certain. And like the spirit of the performance, the original performance, which maybe a lot of times they didn't even have a source. You know, like I don't know how much isolation
Starting point is 00:30:23 these voiceover artists were working in trying to dub these things What I like about the look of this is that it looks like the games Whereas the Saturday morning show did not look like the games at all. Like this has the aesthetic like the checkerboard print aesthetic of yeah of a sonic game the checkerboard print aesthetic of a Sonic game. Sonic's like, okay, you crashed your plane here, I'm gonna get in my plane and leave your ass here. What a cocky asshole that he's just standing
Starting point is 00:30:57 on top of the plane. Yeah, I'm not gonna fall, don't worry about me. He's like arms crossed on top of a plane. He's kind of the coolest guy that's ever lived. They are flying to floating islands, the world of Pandora, which has now been colonized. God, yeah, look at it. And has beautiful retro futuristicfuturistic buildings
Starting point is 00:31:27 and the White House. Yeah, it's looking nice. US Capitol just sitting pretty. Sonic's like, I gotta go talk to the president. Oh, I guess Robotnik, Dr. Robotnik is the president? Oh my God. There's fucking, oh my, like metal guys that were shooting at them and they made quick work of them of course.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You know what I'll say about this OVA? Like Sonic himself, it's gotta go fast. It is just moving. Like, we're just like, you know what? Sonic, Tails, and Robotnik, they're all together on the same room. No, who gives a shit? People piece together. He's so I love Dr. Robotnik. He's such a funny character. Yeah. Yeah, he's great. So this this OVA was done by a Piero is
Starting point is 00:32:20 a Japanese animation studio. Apparently the animation from Sonic CD was done by a different studio, a lesser known studio that is called Studio Junio. But maybe they were drawing from the same source. It looked like it was just literally pulled from it. Like they traced. Maybe they traced it. They mean they might have just you know if you have like a Moment where sonic is like wagging his finger, and you want to put it in the movie
Starting point is 00:32:54 Why not just have it look exactly like that yeah? Okay, so they got a little robotropolis Okay, so they got to go to Robotropolis. So Robotnik has a city and then there's somebody else who's attacking it and it's different robots. So is Robotnik going to be on Sonic's side in this movie? It's possible. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I don't think so, because we saw him designing Metal Sonic in the beginning. So all this is lies. It's lies and it could be as a way to kind of like do a frame up sort of job or put him into a conflict with Metal Sonic. Yeah, maybe he's gonna make Metal Sonic do something bad and be like, that was the real Sonic actually.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah. Always a fun device. Like the baby Bowser, you know, in disguise as Mario, gets him arrested in Mario Sunshine. Or that evil Kermit from Muppets Most Wanted. Oh, right. I like that Robotnik was describing his plan and everybody, including robots, fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Savage. There is a human woman in this room and nobody else looks like a human being. No. For a second I thought you meant ranch. I was like, what a weird thing to say. No, there's like a human woman in the show and then like Robotnik is a circle and this other guy looks like he's from Rescue Rangers.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, he does. He looks like a like a like a like like an anthropomorphic animal of some sort. I guess she does have, no, those aren't ears. That's a big bow. She's like a sort of like proto- Aerith? Yeah. Yeah, very much, very Aerith coded. Okay, so apparently, I'm trying not to be in the, you know, be in the weeds too
Starting point is 00:34:47 much here looking this up. But apparently, they may have drawn on art by Hisashi Eguchi, who is an illustrator and an animator who, I guess, conceived a lot of the animation that was used in Sonic CD. Even if he's not wasn't this at the studio that actually did it. He may have like storyboarded out or Drawn some key frames or whatever. I didn't hear what the mission is, but they're on the mission. Yeah, whatever It's fine. We get it Sonic's casually standing on top of tails is by plane. I mean, I don't want to spoil This or anything, but Sonic's gonna win, right? Yeah, yeah. I think so.
Starting point is 00:35:28 He's also not gonna fall face-forward into that propeller blade, which laws of physics would maybe suggest he might do. We have a fake fighting game within this. Like a training sim, perhaps, for... Yeah. Robotnik is fighting. Oh, I see, they're playing a video game. Robotnik is fighting. I see they're playing playing He's playing against erith in this
Starting point is 00:35:52 Sega controller on the ground. I like that. Yeah, they're using they were playing on a Sega console a Game where their characters look eerily like themselves and that's continuing and Robotnik is just dominating I like they did cut back to Sonic on the plane and he looked bored. It's a long flight. It's holographic game. Interesting. It shines the characters into the circle in the middle, which was a Sega technology from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:36:20 What was that game called? Not Time Crisis, Time something. Time Warrior. Yeah. The time machine thing, right? The travel one? Yeah, I saw that recently. I can't remember what it's called.
Starting point is 00:36:32 They have one at Barcade in Highland Park. Holy shit. Yeah. Time to make a trek. I love, of the Barcades, RIP button mash, of course. That closed? It closed, it came back after COVID, and now they officially closed. Oh, it closed again.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Because I knew it came back, I didn't know it closed again. The Highland Park Barcade has some very strange cuts, which is what makes it a good barcade. It's not just, oh, it's the Simpsons and Ninja Turtles and Street Fighter. They've got shit. That's like What like what is this game? Oh they have one point they had moonwalker Yes, but they also have I mean this is similar to that too
Starting point is 00:37:14 They have the X-Man arcade game on one long screen which rocks. That's cool the The Sega published hologram time traveler game from the arcade. Would you believe that the title of that game was Time Traveler? Sonic and Tails have flown to a distant land, crashed Tails' plane, and now they have to make their way to the land of darkness, is what it's called. No disrespect to the voice actors. Sonic doesn't sound like this.
Starting point is 00:38:12 What do you think Sonic sounds like? He sounds cooler than this to me. He's kind of like a punk brat more here, I think a little bit. He's like Bart Simpson. Yeah, he's a little bit cool kid as opposed to like cool, dude. Yeah Or bad boy, I guess I should say Now they're just running on screen. They're doing a level. I love this this rocks They're just running. They're just they were just doing side-scrolling platforming jumping over spikes. Just Sonic and Tails. That's awesome. I
Starting point is 00:38:45 Haven't spent a ton of time with tails. That's it. It's a jump on a one of those spring things But I gotta say I think I love tails Yeah tails great. This sequence is awesome. They're just animating what your imagination They're just animating what your imagination thinks a sonic level looks and feels like, which in the 90s was probably really fun for a kid. Yeah, if I was like nine watching this in 1996, I'd be like, this is the fucking best movie I've ever seen. I mean, I'm thinking it right now. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha This to me I think is the benefit, one of the benefits that people who identify as Sonic
Starting point is 00:39:41 Kids get to have because Mario fans didn't really have anything as good as even this for a long time. Yeah, they didn't. No, we had the Super Mario Brothers Super Show, which was not at all on this level. I think that this movie came out before Sonic & Knuckles, because Sonic also, when he's really sped up, is using the Sega CD animation
Starting point is 00:40:04 of the infinity symbol for his legs, which is taken out permanently after Sonic and Knuckles. Wow. So I think that this was being made at the same time. And if Knuckles was out, if people knew about Knuckles, he'd be in the movie. He'd be in this right I like that these backgrounds are the last of us. Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:29 Just these buildings with overgrown plant life Yes, Sonic and Tails went to New York, and it's post-apocalypse. Yeah What if the live-action sonic movies were this and it's like what the hell is crazy You know what this whole this whole sequence is It's the part because we already referenced avatar. It's the part in avatar way of water when they're just like swimming This is like 20 minutes like they're just swimming around yeah, yeah sure why not I mean I Love that
Starting point is 00:41:02 I love that There's a fight that James Cameron got in with I think the studio or Fox or the public whoever Whoever hit is to the he gets notes from because they were like you have to take out the flying sequence Yeah, and he was like no And they were like but what it doesn't do anything for the plot and he's like it's the pleasure of flight It stays in the movie Because they've introduced metal robotnik here. Oh This is what that's a really cool character design This is the problem with when you start doing metal characters, of course, you try to make a metal version of
Starting point is 00:41:42 The hero there's gonna be a metal version of the villain as well. Yeah, it's a ratchet effect. Yeah. I love that though, I love his big round body. I love his huge shoulders. I like his big gun. Yeah, the big, he's got like a, like a chain gun in his right arm.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Sonic just said, we don't have time to mess around with some robot. That's all you do. What else you got going on? That's just the main thing. Sit on the beach with a soda? Come on. I guess if that's, you're pulled away from that, I'd be wanting to get back to that too. I wish I knew why they were in New York.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I really missed it. Yeah. Oh my god. Holy shit. it. Yeah. Oh my God. Holy shit. Whoa, he's got bat wings. Metal Robotnik has jet propelled flesh bat wings. Yeah. Those are organic matter.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Love that. They fly now? He says they fly now. Man, I saw a I saw a TikTok that was like You realize that the what that every single Star Wars piece of media that has come out since rise of Skywalker is only being used to explain how Palpatine returned It is the plot of
Starting point is 00:43:01 how Palpatine returned. It is the plot of the Mandalorian. It's the plot of Ahsoka. It is the plot of everything that Star Wars has put out is basically to be like, make this make sense. It's the plot of the Mandalorian? I guess they didn't follow the Mandalorian really. Yeah, because they're using Baby Yoda blood to make. Oh, that's what that is?
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah. Oh man, I did not piece that together. You pointed out the infinity symbol when he's running. I'm sad that that's gone. Yeah. I really like how that looks. It looks cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:35 This was a really cool chase sequence. They're running and they ran to the literal end of the road. And his feet were hot from running so fast. Looking into the barrel of a gun. Jesus. They can't swim because of a gun. Jesus. They can't swim because of the game. Metal Robotnik just shot a gun point blank into the faces of animal children. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:57 But they're okay still. That's a good point though, Matt. Like them just sort of saying like, hey, I know you can't swim, because in the games you fall into the water, you die. That's another thing I think the kids would appreciate. I'm telling you, this is really working for me. He can't swim. Yeah, I know he can't.
Starting point is 00:44:14 See, it's like in the game. I'll tell you, when I saw Sonic 2 in the theater by myself with all the dads and their children, the post credits tease where they tease Shadow, I, along with all the other and their children. The post credits tease where they tease Shadow. I, along with all the other children in the theater, gassed. What was the Super Mario Brothers movie tease? Was it a Yoshi? A Yoshi egg, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:37 That's a righty guess. Yeah, Shadow's cool. I wanted Wario. Oh man, imagine Wario. Wario's gonna be the next one I mean if they if they make enough of them wario will be in one yeah, oh But he only appeared He's wearing his cowboy hat was Was that like a wizard style teaser?
Starting point is 00:45:07 That like, Knuckles might be in future games? This was Boba Fett in the Star Wars Christmas special. So Tails is lacquered with goo to a chain link fence. I hate to be lacquered with goo. Yeah, I don't want to be stuck with goo to anything. Sonic is trying to free him. Sonic's experience is the first time you fight a boss in one of these games and you're like,
Starting point is 00:45:36 I don't know what the fuck it is that I'm supposed to do. I was chilling a second ago, now I gotta fight? I got a fight? It's such a good Way to stop them because obviously speed is their number one thing. How do you stop something? That's so fast you make them stuck Knuckles to the rescue Knuckles is in Yeah, you can kind of fly huh
Starting point is 00:46:10 He just knuckles just pulled tails from the xenomorph wall where he was going to be Oh Like you can't like fly fly, but like the way he jumps is like you know has a little bit different physics a little bit Momentum yeah, oh god. I didn't realize that's what happened to Sonic, that he's glued to the ground underneath the water while it's rising. That's horrible. What a horrible way to die. I think they should bring his knuckles hat back.
Starting point is 00:46:36 He doesn't really wear the hat hat much. The hat is awesome. I think he wears it in the show, in the live action show, which I still haven't seen. I should do that before the new movie comes out so I can be caught up on what's going on with those guys. The hat is rad, and this is also from the era when they, to the other's point,
Starting point is 00:46:51 they haven't really established what Knuckles is yet. So they're kinda like, I don't know, he wears a hat, I guess, I don't fuckin' know. He's like poochy, kinda. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is my favorite thing we've ever watched. This is really good.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Rochelle, are you following along how you like in the Sonic the Hedgehog OVA so far? This is my first Sonic the Hedgehog content of any sort. Of any kind? That can't be true. This is not a good introduction to Sonic. I think it's a pretty good introduction, honestly. I think it's pretty good, yeah. Gives you the shorthand of who everyone is.
Starting point is 00:47:30 That's wild, I'm surprised. I would have thought you would have watched a cartoon or seen one of the movies at a certain point. Yeah, I don't know why, I just missed everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, Rach, after this is over, we have something to show you, actually. It's the theme song to an incredible Sonic cartoon. Oh my god. Have we not done Sonic Underground,
Starting point is 00:47:47 the theme song with you in the room? Yeah. Okay, so you've seen that. That was your first ever piece of Sonic media. That's a good introduction. Who is this lady in the mini skirt? She was in earlier. No, but who is she?
Starting point is 00:48:03 I don't know exactly what her status is. There's probably some dialogue we were talking over that she's like Why Amy Rose exists? It's cuz Sonic wanted to fuck a hot girl. Yeah, and they were like we gotta make a headshot They were drawing her. They're like wait. They're drawing something hot girl Why don't we draw a hot girl like Sonic wants to fuck? I guess I could look at the plot summary of this What why would you read ahead? No, I'm just trying to find out who that the woman is Okay, that's the president's daughter Robotnik has taken the president who is the the big guy, the big buffoon looking guy, and
Starting point is 00:48:48 his daughter, Sarah, prisoner. And so that's Robotnik's charge right now. The Soviet got one thing right in how they depict the president of the United States. Thank you. All right, now it looks like we're approaching Casino Night Zone or something like it, some sort of future city It's more of a chemical plant zone. I don't know exactly where we are
Starting point is 00:49:18 So like knuckles just hovers in this it's very weird. Yeah, I don't know that he does that I gave it a little bit of leeway, but like it's yeah They're they're the longer like really Sonic still has to like hold Tails' hand, but Knuckles just hovers like a god. So they're going to Robotnik City, it looks like. It's kind of like the BIF future of Back to the Future Part II. There's a huge Dr. Robotnik. Robotropolis.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Robotropolis, that's where we are. Yeah, Robotropolis. I think about that casino where we are yeah, Robo tropolis I Think about the that casino level in Sonic 2 because I never played it before until we had done it on the show And I still think that it's maybe the single greatest level of any video game It's really good. You know what I will say that there's a their astro bot which we have talked about in the main feed. Yes is Has a casino level that I think is really well done. Yes, absolutely. And super fun, and it has that same sort of feeling of like,
Starting point is 00:50:19 just controlled chaos. I like how much of this movie is side-scrolling animation of them doing level stuff, right? So it looks like the core of robotropolis they were looking to destroy also has a robotnik face on it, which is fun This like bad guy that like puts his name and face all over his stuff. Yeah, who could Yeah, what is that remind me of? face all over his stuff. Who could conceive of doing something like that? Yeah, what does that remind me of? Doesn't ring a bell.
Starting point is 00:50:48 The truth is, until you said that, it had never occurred to me. Never ever had it occurred to me that that is something we have been programmed since we were children to associate with evil. That is fucking ridiculous. Wow, the whole city grid has been shut down. Now this is one of those things where like I get that you're trying to take down Robotnik, but also this could be a humanitarian crisis. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I mean, think of all the civilians who are just suddenly deprived of power in a society dependent on electricity. Take down the whole fucking power grid. Hospitals are offline. Yeah, that's a absolute disaster. And now gravity seems to not work. Knuckles just saved Sonic. It was very, it was a great scene for the shippers.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah, really good. They've destroyed Robotnik's main machine, killed the power grid, and now it looks like Akira is being summoned. Yeah, this is the birth of a god. Except in the middle, it's Metal Sonic. Very Mew? Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Very Mew, yeah. More Mewtwo, I suppose. More Mewtwo, Mewtwo? Yeah, coming out of just a... These fucking pissed. A pulsing womb that was at the core of this power plant. There he is, face to face with Sonic. Thanks, Tails. There he is, face to face with Sonic. Thanks, Tails. He looks fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Tails, he does look awesome. Tails just said, it's a robot that looks exactly like Sonic. Somebody watching this, what am I looking at here? Well, you know what, I think this is the sort of thing. It seems silly, but in its defense, I understand if you're making something for children, that's the kind of thing, it seems silly, but in its defense, I understand if you're making something for children, that's the kind of thing that you underline, because also it makes the kid feel smart.
Starting point is 00:52:51 So like, I know, it is, you know? I mean, hey, I feel like a goddamn genius. I'm way ahead of your tails. These are ghosts. Like we are also seeing souls sort of coming like like being summoned by Is And tails refer to them as ghosts Yeah
Starting point is 00:53:13 Is it possible that just based on the way Knuckles was standing with his hat on his his head on his hand or his Hand on his hat. Is it possible that he's the hardest motherfucker that's ever lived? He's just like not scared. Robot ghosts is an interesting concept. The whole time. I've heard of ghosts in the shell, but this is ridiculous. The whole time that all of this action is happening, Metal Sonic is just staring at
Starting point is 00:53:46 Sonic from like an inch away. Yeah. Now we're getting some fan service with the... She has a tail? She has a tail. So she is a little bit of some sort of an animal character. Sort of like a Goku? Goku has a tail.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, I don't know. I guess so. I guess some sort of like primate creature Wait a minute Robot robotnik was teamed up with the daughter of the president operating metal robotnik. He's yeah, he's like using her to his own ends He's yeah, he's like using her to his own ends I assume in the same way they were playing the video game together now. They're like mutually operating. Yeah metal robotnik
Starting point is 00:54:43 You know Sonic's fast he could be faster in this I think Hypermetal Sonic fucking rules. Yeah, he's awesome. I can't say it enough. It's so cool. It looks so different Everything else on screen. Yeah, really really cool This movie's good And I don't know if it's just that Sonic is good and we like Sonic, but like this is good. There's a lot of Sonic stuff we could watch that would not be good. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:55:15 No, I think this is well executed. It's also like pretty straightforward in terms of what's going on. And then it also just moves at a good clip. Like why can't, why, why, you know, not everything needs to be 90 plus minutes. Hyper Metal Sonic's red eyes. Very like Akuma right before he does like his finishing move. He looks mean.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Really cool HUD too. He's got a full blown airplane jet engine in his. He has a jet engine. Furbine on his back. That's awesome. That's fucking awesome. Sometimes the animation goes like way harder than it needs to also in this,
Starting point is 00:55:56 where like the background will suddenly completely collapse and every individual piece is animated. Really, really good. Yeah, like some of this is like, it looks a little bit, hey, a little cheap, but other parts of it is like, they like, oh, this is what we're gonna commit our resources to. Because you know, some of the movement is like,
Starting point is 00:56:14 oh, this is like animated in fours or something, you know, that there aren't a lot of frames here. That was just like a still, you know, cell moving over a background, but other stuff is just like, oh, they got some real detail into it. Oh my God, Metal Sonic's gonna like murder regular Sonic. That's rad. Sonic's been incapacitated and Metal Sonic is dragging him by the leg into the sky.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Tails is trying to help, and suddenly Knuckles can't fly anymore. Knuckles' voice is very strange. You mean, because it's not Idris Elba? Yeah, well also it's just like, it doesn't feel like committed to One Direction or another, you know? I don't know if I could tell you what I think Knuckles sounds like pre-Idris Elba.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I have no idea. But yeah, it's such a strong performance that it has become the sort of de facto version of him. I like that Robotnik doesn't seem horny. Yeah, he just he doesn't even seem like he's like that bad. Honestly, there could be a version of this where he's like pervy towards the president's daughter, but he more just sort of seems like, like you know now you're along for the ride with me. Yeah, oh my oh my god Whoa metal Sonic just fucking roundhouse kicked Sonic while he's upside down Kicked him off a fucking mountain top
Starting point is 00:57:59 He did it by not by moving his leg, but by rotating his entire body at the neck Yeah in full view of the planet Saturn He did it by not by moving his leg, but by rotating his entire body at the neck. Yeah, in full view of the planet Saturn. So Rotnik and the President's daughter. Are, I guess, just observing through their. You know, aircraft. And tails is Tails and knuckles I guess are just fleeing through a warp
Starting point is 00:58:32 They left Sonic's corpse in New York City and returned to Hawaii I love this background Planet in the background Pondries Holy shit Howls kicking on the beach background planet in the background Looks like trees holy shit Just like a grease stain of just like feathers and blood Oh my god! Jesus Christ. Petals on a cow. Just left a grease stain of just like feathers and blood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Turned him into one of those weird owl shits out of his own body. Tides are gonna wash him away. Sonic's in fucking hell or something. Yeah, Sonic's in a forest. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Needs to tone down his wardrobe a little bit. He looks like a tin pot dictator You can't be wearing the Admiral's coat and the full sash Yeah, you want to be like it present yourself as a democratically elected leader And then also he thinks dumb shit to himself sees a bunch of destruction bunch of like buildings toppled Knows that there's a fucking metal Robotnik and is like, I wonder if he did this. Yeah. The owl.
Starting point is 01:00:12 He's actually cool? The owl is put on all of Sonic's clothes after his encounter with Metal Sonic, so I feel like maybe the owl is just like a corpse that Metal Sonic is wearing. Yes, right. It's just like a corpse that metal Sonic is wearing Yeah metal Metal Sonic took all his clothes Hmm oh She's okay a robotnik got her a little dress to wear that felt like it was not translated the way it was supposed to
Starting point is 01:00:42 like it was not translated the way it was supposed to. Yeah. I feel like they glossed over the perviness of Robotnik in that moment. Wear this, my future wife. Yeah. I like that Tails is good at machines. I like that he's a little mechanic. I like that too.
Starting point is 01:01:02 It's really fun. I think it's also like, it's an aspirational skill. I'd love to be good with machines. Yeah, but it also like just gives another way that he's a little mechanic. I like that too. It's really fun. I think it's also like, it's an aspirational skill. I'd love to be good with machines. Yeah, but it also like just gives another way that he can help out. I would like, anytime someone can help out the team in multiple ways, I think that's fun. Cause he's not stronger than Sonic.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Sure. He's not even as strong as Sonic, but he holds his own. But he can fly, he's mobile, and then he also does machines like Donatello. And Knuckles is kind of rude. Yeah, he's got a little toot. What the fuck happened to the owl? I don't know, that was baffling.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Why is the owl wearing Sonic's clothes and dancing? It's like he's been brainwashed or deprogrammed. It's like when Hans Mole Man shows up in Bart Simpson's clothes, he's just, cowabunga, dude. What the fuck is going on here? Ha ha ha. Can we do The Simpsons on one of these? Yeah, we should.
Starting point is 01:01:53 We should watch The Simpsons episode. Well, you know what? I bet we could do some Simpsons video game themed episodes, like the Bone Storm episode. Oh yeah. I bet we could get away with that as a one-off special if we did a couple of those. Yeah, there's got to be a Simpsons anime crossover at some point. There is. They did a, what was it?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Oh, they did Death Note. Yeah, they did Death Note. It was actually really cool looking. Hmm. It is impossible for me to pay attention to you guys talking while I'm trying to solve the mystery of the owl. Like I'm really hyper focused trying to solve the mystery of the owl. Like I'm really hyper focused trying to hear what happened to the owl. Cause the owl was just on, so they're in some, they're in Tails' like computer lab. And the, what is, okay, I'm lost. You know, if you just had a near death experience.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I'm'm lost. You know, if you just had a near-death experience. I'm so lost. You would maybe think about trying to be cooler when you stepped out of it. I'm baffled, I'm confused. I'm confused, I'm lost. I misread this. He is being creepy. He doesn't wanna marry her.
Starting point is 01:02:58 They're gonna get married. Yeah, and the dress he got her is a wedding dress. I knew it. And now she's imagining a future where she has a bunch of little robotnik kids. She was breastfeeding one of them. Yeah, she was. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:08 It's kind of amazing that it didn't get censored for US release. That's again, I think they generally would have. So, okay. Not that it's a thing that should be censored. I'm just saying, like it's a very American censor. It's gonna be very prudish. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I think breastfeeding is beautiful. Like a guy that's like down, like is a normal guy who goes too far with it. Okay, okay, we heard you. I'm sick of this. So the president has a technological compound and he's using it to communicate with knuckles and the owl. And now they're talking about a glacier
Starting point is 01:03:47 that we, I don't believe, have seen yet, which... Is, oh, this is what's going to happen if Robotnik gets his way. This is a terrifying death. That rocks. If this is on Letterbox, this is getting terrifying death. That rocks. If this is on Letterboxd, this is getting five stars. So the, I agree with the review, his plan is to melt like the, I guess the equivalent of the polar ice caps, which will cause the globe to spin super fast, which will eject
Starting point is 01:04:22 all the continents into space. So, yeah, so they figured out what Metal Sonic's plan is. They're going to go to the North Pole as fast as they can to stop him. I hope to God we find out what happened to the owl by the end of this film. I will not, I won't, I won't be able to do that. I will not be able to do that. I will not be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I will not be able to do that. I will not be can to stop him. I hope to God we find out what happened to the owl by the end of this film. I will not, I won't be able to give this a five star review on Letterboxd. Metal Sonic shows up, confronts the owl, the owl looks like he's about to die. We dissolve out of that scene, some time passes, the owl shows up and he is dressed up like a surfer dude,
Starting point is 01:05:06 and there's not a lot of context for what happened. Meanwhile, Robotnik and the President's daughter are warping to some other place. He also has an Apple Watch, that's pretty good. Yeah, it is cool. He's got a smart watch. He has one of Robotnik's watches so he can snoop on him.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Are these episodes enjoyable for a regular listener? People do like it. If you're in a car, aren't you like confused about what we're confused about? We're trying to paint with words a little bit, describe what's going on. Metal Sonic is looking straight at the camera. Why is Metal Sonic drawn so much better
Starting point is 01:05:43 than everything else in this entire movie? He looks awesome. Well, you know what I wonder if it might be? I wonder if it's kind of like, hey, this gets to be our own character design. This is a thing that we get to like put some of our own, you know, spin on. Who's they?
Starting point is 01:05:59 I assume the animation studio. No, that guy exists. Yeah, I know Metal Sonic exists, but I'm just like, I wonder if like, because it's hyper Metal Sonic or because they're like I wonder if they get to have their own little take. I don't know. He looks exactly like Sonic CD Metal Sonic. Well then never mind. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I'm just telling you that he's drawn better. He's colored better. He looks cool. Metal Sonic and Sonic are about to face off in the North Pole-ish.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And Metal Sonic is mocking him. This movie is on Letterboxd and I just logged it with five stars and my review is, this is incredible. So I'm looking at the plot summary on Wikipedia, and unfortunately Owl is only referenced once for his character's introduction, so it's not giving any more specificity in terms of what's happening with his character arc. But he is called Old Man Owl. Oh, the reason Sonic can't beat Metal Sonic is because Metal
Starting point is 01:07:13 Sonic has scanned Sonic's brain. And so he knows everything that's going to happen. Yeah, that's cool. Also, Sonic just got hit in the nuts. Yeah, that's pretty good. Cool. Also Sonic just got hit in the nuts. Yeah, it was pretty good. Okay. Metal Sonic was, I guess, inadvertently peeping on,
Starting point is 01:07:33 under Sarah's wedding dress. This is very fan service-y, the way for a PG property, the way that Sarah is rendered. There's a lot of, the scoring through here is really cool. It's like synthy with like a little bit of like saxophone, which I don't know if it's real. I can't quite tell if it's real real sax. I think it's synth sax, but it's cool. It's interesting to see this and not and to know that they haven't added all his shitty friends yet.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Right. That's a pretty good, that's a pretty good bit. Pretty good joke. Robotnik. That's a pretty good. It's a pretty good bit. He a joke robotnik He was creating some badniks on the fly he had like some real like some actual animals that came out of his craft They always all the bad guys just want to marry think about how funny it is to be like The worst thing I can do to a woman is marry her yeah I know what I'll do I'll make this woman my wife His plan is particularly bad though because he's going to extinguish all other life on earth
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah, we'll be left with him and her and then they'll have little robotnik babies. Yeah Because I imagine if you're in her situation is like well. There's literally no one else alive No, there's sonic there's knuckles and tails of course I Mean not if Robotnik has his way is this Colleen O'Shaughnessy still or Let me bring up the cast here. It might be this is the most Kinetic thing I've ever watched this late at night. Hahaha. It is Lainey Frazier in the English dub.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Now Sonic and Metal Sonic are, um, like making lava come out of the ice? Yeah, I don't know. Mountains? I don't know how that happened, but Knuckles' hat caught on fire. He was freaking out. It was pretty funny. Okay, listen to this.
Starting point is 01:09:57 The actor in the English dub of, who plays Old Man Owl is Charles C. Campbell. My dad. Charles C. Campbell was employed as ADV Films first in-house ADR audio engineer. He sat behind the mixing board through many ADV classics, including Neon Genesis Evangelion, Blue Seed Battle Angel Golden Boy,
Starting point is 01:10:25 and the live action Gamera, Guardian of the Universe. Wow. Isn't that wild? Crazy. The guy who's voicing the owl in this was just like mixing the English dub of all these classic anime. That's insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:40 And I guess he's an actor as well. Has directed episodes of one piece Very cool really cool Wow cool when someone has like a big like wild like divergent career like that I guess sonic beat metal sonic, but I don't know how I Kicked his ass. Yeah, it was hard while also listening to interesting factoids about a guy behind the mixing board Die trying not to get too much in the notes here, but it's irresistible Tails is pulling Sonic up into the sky And metals back metals not been defeated I I like calling him just metal. That's cool
Starting point is 01:11:31 His hands are terrifying. They really are they're just like fucking razor sharp claws God I hate to be stabbed with one of those I need to be stabbed with anything. Yeah, yeah, you know what? Pretty low on my list of ways. I'd to be hurt. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Robotnik does look cool in his wedding suit, I will say. Yeah, he looks sharp. He cleans up nice. The baby blue tux, it's a good look for him with the red bow tie.
Starting point is 01:12:00 A little bit of a cape. There's a name for that, I can't remember what it's called. Sort of like a half cape sure sort of situation If I was a kid this whole sequence would have been some of my favorite stuff I'd ever seen if I was a kid. I would maybe tell you that this is my favorite The environment is really I mean they're in this whole this whole polar ice cap environment, and it's Got some cool background some that a little spare But other ones that are very very cool Knuckles had a bump on his head and it was round and it kind of looked gross.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I don't love the whole bump on the head thing, which I know is like in all animation, the way to show injury, but I always feel like it looks gross. Yeah, because like what is it filled with? Right. Well, Metal Sonic is getting fucked up. The President is near death. While knuckles using his famous knuckles unable to punch through the glass of the president is trapped inside. But it looks like Metal Sonic has been hurtled through and has penetrated the whole Sonic. This is the whole franchise in a nutshell. Yes. A massive explosion with Sonic the Hedgehog yelling out, Mr. President, can you hear me? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha just dove into the volcano to, I think, save Metal Sonic.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Ah, fuck, this rules. Oh my God. It's very, very revenge of the Sith. This is great, because he is fucked up. He'll drag you under with him, it's so dark. Yeah. Oh no. Metal Sonic knocked his hand away.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Metal Sonic would rather die than receive Sonic's help. Oh, my God. Holy shit. He said there's only one Sonic and then went into the lava and then sacrificed himself. Legs first. Legs first. There's only one Sonic and then went into the lava and then sacrificed himself legs first legs first There was only one Sonic Sonic you And then he fucking he didn't say I mean it's like an implied is there's only one Sonic you so I have to kill Myself the tortoise is still running and that's really funny the tortoise. That was very funny the magma fucking Melted Metal Sonic into nothing and now now they're all just standing there like,
Starting point is 01:14:25 so I guess we gotta just go back home or something? We just witnessed a slow suicide, I guess. We could go on with our lives somehow. Hopefully that soda of mine's still cold. All of Sonic's data, what the hell are you talking about? Robotnik has a CD, that's all that Sonic's data. That's all that Sonic is is one CD's worth of information. Tortoise grabbed the CD and then blew up. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:07 They're all laughing at him like haha robot neck you stupid bitch God that was like the end of Terminator 2. Yeah I Think this is the end of the movie I think so Well the central conflict has been resolved Yeah, I'm not gonna be able to melt the polar ice caps anymore. I was now on Robotnik's side along with the president and the president's daughter Are they friends now? There was never an explanation of any kind. I think they're still arguing. I think that, yeah, the Owls on, the Owls maybe switched allegiances, but I think the
Starting point is 01:15:56 president and Sarah are still being held hostage to some degree. The end. We get a Sonic the Hedgehog. Well, hey, that was good. I enjoyed the movie. degree the end Sonic the Hedgehog Well hey that was good I enjoyed the movie I of the because we've done only these we've done these Watch longs with Credits music to we only get a little piece of it in this rip We've done with Pokemon movies We've done it with the Tekken movie and maybe do we do the Street Fighter one or we just watch Street Fighter?
Starting point is 01:16:24 We did Anna Mayhem this way. I did Anna mayhem. We didn't Anna mayhem this way This is far and away the best one of these where we've the best thing we've watched It was yeah, this is the best of these the least that the thing that dragged the least other than for me Camp camp girls whatever the fuck that But Yeah, I'm Camp girls whatever the fuck that shit was called. Laid back camp? Laid back camp. But yeah I'm surprised that that was decent. I thought that was good. I enjoyed it. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:16:57 I also think it just sort of captures everything that's fun about Sonic. It's just like this knows, this understands the appeal of the property and represents it in a narrative move fast Nonsense yeah, right and be cool to use cool like the whole time is really cool So as far as get plate goes our wrench any any thoughts on this movie? Love the turtle. Yeah turtles great As as your first like, you know, we've talked about the sonic underground theme song But like as your first full exposure to the sonic cannon How do you feel? Are you interested in exploring more about this this this cool hedgehog?
Starting point is 01:17:34 Yeah, you're like I gotta I gotta consume more. Okay, great. Let us know how your journey progresses As far as get plate goes the only thing I spotted let me know if there's anything else you saw but the only thing I spotted was some beach sodas. I Didn't spot any food anywhere in this Yeah We had Sonic sip in a beach soda and then later on the owl is emulating him and also sipping a beach soda So I guess I'll ask Do you like sipping a soda on the beach?
Starting point is 01:18:02 Does that sound I mean I don't think about doing that often, but you know what? That sounds pretty fun. I usually will have like, if I'm gonna have like, I'll have like a smoothie or something, or maybe like a. I don't like the beach. You don't like the beach? No, come on. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I mean, why is that a surprise with my character at all? I don't like the beach. I love the beach. At all. Do you love the beach? Yeah. I'm from Long Beach. I know.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I love that area. I love the sand. Yeah. I'm from Long Beach. I know. Love that area. I love the sand between my toes. I love watching the waves. I like the ocean breeze. I don't necessarily like going in the ocean because the ocean is very oftentimes filthy water. I hate sand. It's rough.
Starting point is 01:18:39 It's coarse. It gets everywhere. Got an Anakin in our hands. I like being at the beach, but I don't like going there and I don't like leaving Like do you know what I mean? Cuz like the idea of transporting sand Does bother me. Yeah, though. That's the thing likely. Yeah, you got to deal with that You gotta be got to have like I gonna wear some sandals
Starting point is 01:18:58 I'm gonna rinse my feet off at the beach shower. Hopefully take care of all of it I might have I'm driving. I might have some sand in the car yeah there there might be some issues you got to deal with but I that's that's a thing that's a that's a solvable problem I grew up going to Seal Beach oh yeah I love Seal Beach and then which is a great beach there's a taco surf right nearby we still we go to that taco surf all the time but then as I got older we started to go to Bolsa Chica oh yeah Bolsa Chica and there's a there's a jack-in-the-box like on the corner that's right by the box it's a fucking
Starting point is 01:19:29 it's a perfect jack-in-the-box it's one it's good it's good quality jack-in-the-box and two it's a perfect beach like I'm just gonna be here for a little bit eat some horrible food some nasty feel like shit and swim for four hours great have a great day Right, I do like a soda on the beach I like a cold one on the beach. That's what I was gonna say like I on it I honestly think of the ice I associate the beach so much more with like alcohol with like having a brew dog or having like Like a frozen margarita or something like that
Starting point is 01:19:59 But when I think about I seem just sit Sonic looking cool as shit sipping a soda in a cup I mean, that's a lot of fun. Why wouldn't why wouldn't I like an ice-cold Coca-Cola? I got I got the beach soda. I think Cactus cooler. Yeah, that's a good call. I like a cactus cooler. I got I Oversaturated myself with cactus cooler as a kid because I love I love cactus cooler I only want cactus coolers having cactus cooler all the time all the time. I was getting my parents to buy it as much as any soda. And I was having a cactus cooler every day. And every sister and boy was like, I'm kind of over it. Cactus cooler is coveted to me to this day.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I didn't grow up getting it that much. Yeah. But I always wanted it. And now whenever I can get like a taco stand or like any place that sells a single can of soda and they have cactus cooler I'm reaching for a cactus cooler every time. I haven't had one in like 20 years. I should have one. They're so good I also think squirt a glass is great glass bottle squirt. I've maybe said this to you
Starting point is 01:20:56 Maybe I don't know if I said this to you I think a glass bottle squirt when it's ice cold is the coldest drink you can have It is so fucking good. Yeah, it's perfect A grapefruit soda is is very fun and squirt does a good one. Love it. I had a There was a place a restaurant that closed called Paley here in LA and they served Sapporo in a in a special, like it was a special situation that they advertised
Starting point is 01:21:29 and it was like the coldest possible beer. They would serve it to you in a pint glass, like a long pint glass, and when they put it down on the table, when they tapped it, it would start to freeze inside the glass. And it was the coldest drink I've ever had. Wow.
Starting point is 01:21:46 That's amazing. I want that. I want that. Ranch, you like soda? I love soda. What's your go-to soda? Dr. Pepper. Yeah, Dr. Pepper's great.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Do you ever mess with a cactus cooler? Is that like, is it orange? Yeah, it's like an orange. I think I've had it, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Well, how do you feel? Where do you stand on the beach, in general? I don't love the beach orange. I think I had it, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Well, how do you feel?
Starting point is 01:22:05 Where do you stand on the beach in general? I don't love the beach. You don't love the beach, okay. That's fucking right. I like- Ranch and I are the same. I like looking at it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:22:15 If I'm driving by. Yep, yep, yep. A beach drive, great. No, well, this is the thing. So much of the appeal for the beach for me is looking at the beach. I do really like looking at the beach. And I like being by the ocean. I love is the thing. So much of the appeal for the beach for me is looking at the beach. I do really like looking at the beach and I like being by the ocean.
Starting point is 01:22:27 I love seeing the ocean. Any day I see the ocean is a good day. If I'm at the beach, even for like 30 minutes, I go home nauseous and exhausted. Wow. This is gonna sound counter to what I'm about to say. I do like to be at the beach, but as soon as I get to the beach. I'm like when can we leave? I'm ready to go home at any time because like yeah the idea of getting wet the idea of like
Starting point is 01:22:57 Going in the ocean going in the ocean here is different. I'm about to go to the beach For a week, and I'm actually very excited about it but I am like the beaches here I wish were just a little bit better when you go to beach out of town like even gosh like Pismo Beach I like going to the beaches up there oh sure it's beautiful over there I've kept there before it's great but yeah zoom is fine like if I have to go to the beach over here and like in LA I'll go to Zuma and have a nice day. Or go down to like a Huntington Beach or a Newport Beach.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Only when I wanna go to a very specific rally. But. This is the thing, those beaches are nice, but like the people there are fucking awful. This is the worst conversation of my life, and I was once told I had cancer. What is your favorite, what is your preferred spend a day outside? Mountains, forest, mountains and forest.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Those are good biomes, I like mountains and forest. I love mountains and forest, I hate beach, I hate desert, I want mountains and forest, stream, lake, find. Oh you like a lake? I don't want to get the lake out of here. You don't like the lake? Ocean destroys the lake? I don't want to get the lake out of here. You don't like the lake? Ocean destroys the lake. The lakes are fucking disgusting.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I don't want to get a brain amoeba. Get me out of there. You think the Pacific Garbage Patch isn't giving you brain amoebas? You guys, rivers are where it's at. Rivers are awesome. They're powerful. Rivers are great. You ever gone whitewatering?
Starting point is 01:24:27 What the fuck do you think Heather? The answer is yes No no no Oh I've gone a few times It seems cool. It seems dangerous and like you need equipment and People to want to do that with Not if you go up to northern Wisconsin where they they just, you go to a whitewater place and they're like, here you go,
Starting point is 01:24:46 and they don't even give you helmets. Yeah, here's what I'll say about whitewater rafting. First off, sometimes the white rod rafting is run by a guy who owns a boat. Like it's not like the most regulated sector of the economy. But the other thing is like, I've been whitewater rafting,
Starting point is 01:25:03 and then I compare that with a whitewater rafting, and then I compare that with like a whitewater rafting ride at like Disney's California Adventures, like I'd rather just do the ride. It's the same sort of experience. One of the two times I went, it's way less of a hassle. The second and final time I went whitewater rafting, on a waterfall, I was in high school,
Starting point is 01:25:19 and on a waterfall that we went over, my friend's boat hit a rock and exploded. Oh my god. So that was the last time we ever went whitewatering. I'm just now, I'm not just remembering this, but a couple years ago when I was in Hawaii, I was on the big island Kona. I'd never snorkeled before in my life.
Starting point is 01:25:40 So we go to this hotel that has like a little lagoon that has the ocean water coming in and there's like fish and like Turtles in the little lagoon. It's great. I'm learning to snorkel in there It's like four feet deep or whatever, but like I'm just like I'm learning okay. I Pick it up pretty quickly. I like I'm interested because I'm seeing little fish, and that's exciting That's like really fun to see fish. Just kind of swimming around you supposed to leave them alone. Don't touch them Don't do anything don't leave them alone, but keep a distance and look take a picture if you want you have underwater
Starting point is 01:26:07 camera which i did buy for the trip and then uh we go to the beach and now i have the whole ocean to snorkel in if i want and let me tell you something i had to be called back because i went according to uh my fiance and our family, dangerously far from the... I was just way out there just having the time of my life. I loved it. So if I had an ocean activity, I like to be in the ocean, but you're not gonna ever see me running away from the waves
Starting point is 01:26:38 and trying to get in there anymore. Give me a boogie board or something, I'll do it. I've done snorkeling a few times and it upsets me because I feel like I'm high in the air Interesting yeah, I can see that because I give you over clear water And you can see all the way down you're like I'm on the top of a four-story building We got in a like a glass bottom boat tour that took us out Further than we would then we could have gotten on our own
Starting point is 01:27:03 And we got to snorkel in the middle of the ocean. And that was fucking terrifying. It's terrifying, terrifying. I've done that too. It was so scary. It's fucking terrifying. I also, I loved it. No way.
Starting point is 01:27:13 I loved it so much. No way. Hated it. Different fish out there than the ones you see closer to the water. Yeah, I can imagine. It was really, really cool. But it was very, very, I was like,
Starting point is 01:27:20 what if they leave me out here? I saw a nurse, I saw a nurse shark, which are apparently not dangerous to people, but are still shark-shaped and sharks while snorkeling in Florida. And I was like, this is hell. What's the difference between that shark and a nurse shark? Or a regular shark? Is it just like wearing a different outfit? Their mouths don't, they don't have like the big teethy mouth.
Starting point is 01:27:47 So it's not like nurse Joker? Where you sort of like, oh, this nurse. This nurse is fine, but when you take off a mask, it's something Joker. It's the Joker all of a sudden? You're describing a nurse as wearing a different outfit. All jobs are just different outfits when you're at the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Well, I wanna go back to the beach thing, because Rochelle, you lived in Thailand for a time. Isn't Thailand, I've never been, isn't it famed for its beaches? Isn't that part of it? It is. I lived in Bangkok, which is a city, but we did go to the beach often.
Starting point is 01:28:16 How far, I don't know the geography, is Bangkok near the coast at all, or? Probably the closest beach is like an hour and a half away. Okay, so it's not like right there. Yeah. Got it. So you weren't like in the beachy communities where you know, there were like, that was like a big part of your day.
Starting point is 01:28:34 No, no. And then the closest beach was like really disgusting. You have to like fly to the south to get to all the islands. Interesting. Interesting. Well, there you go. Well, this has been a beach and soda Chad You know I was thinking where we're talking like cuz we're talking about Sonic swimming earlier
Starting point is 01:28:54 You know a fun bit of fan service would have been if they'd taken the scoring from when Sonic's about to drown and use that When he was in peril in the water like yeah They do it in the movie it is really cool. Yeah da da da da da da da da da da da. That was a really, they do it in the movie. It is really cool. Yep. I like that. I do like that too. Guys, it's my bedtime.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Yeah, let's go home. It's fucking late. Well, if you're listening to this at night, you too can go to bed now. And if it's the morning, pull over your car and go to bed. If it's the middle of the day, perhaps it's time for you to tell your boss I'm tired and then just leave the office and go to bed because we're putting Sonic the Hedgehog to bed
Starting point is 01:29:37 today on Get animated maybe when you wake up In your subconscious in your sleep your brain will have figured out what the fuck happened with that owl Hey, that was the sonic anime last week We watched the final two episodes of Uzumaki and y'all sent in some of your thoughts It's time for chain reactions colon talking, talking eight or zero, colon, you zoo talkie. Oh no, this show, it's a spiral. Oh boy, it's folding back in and out.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Yeah, here he goes. You know, Heather wasn't here last week for episodes three and four. Heather, real quick, would you like to say what you thought about episodes three and four? So I had to miss the record Yeah. for extenuating circumstances.
Starting point is 01:30:29 And I can only say the only thing worse than watching those episodes was watching them for no fucking reason. So yeah, they, yeah. Yeah, my Uzutaki is please don't ever don't ever do that to me again Okay, well this first comment is from Duke lion Hey, Duke lion. I do client and Duke lion writes I worked at Hollywood video in the early 2000s and watched all of the Tomie movies had no idea
Starting point is 01:31:06 They were adaptations of anything Wow Wow any take beyond that that's all they said but I would have had because like I remember at my Hollywood video These were live-action movies. Yeah, these were live-action Tomie movies. I remember at my Hollywood video. They would have walls of These were live action Tomi movies. I remember at my Hollywood video, they would have walls of multiple screens showing the same movie, and that was always an allure to me. I'd always be like, okay, well,
Starting point is 01:31:32 I can't find something that I wanna watch. My brothers would probably pick something. I'm just gonna stand here and watch Austin Powers 2 or something, whatever they had on at the time. Gosh, Hollywood video in the early 2000s, take me back. What a time. Yeah. Yeah, get rid of the smartphones, put in a Hollywood video, let's go. I would take a smartphone, I would take a Hollywood video over a smartphone. I'm
Starting point is 01:31:55 done with my phone. I didn't even know that the Tomie films were released on video in the States. That is an interesting piece of information. Yeah. Let alone that you can find them in a Hollywood video. Yeah. Hollywood video always had a little bit more eclectic selection than Blockbuster, I found. I found Hollywood video to be more like,
Starting point is 01:32:19 oh wow, they have the bride with white hair on VHS. That's strange. They've been, they've made nine Tomie films. I had no idea it was that extensive of a franchise. Is it, I mean, I would assume that the tome is as chunky as Uzumaki to warrant such. Yeah, Tomie is a big boy. I mean, I read it and talked about it
Starting point is 01:32:43 on the podcast at a certain point. But it's a big boy. I mean, I see what they could kind of take kind of the anthology structure and like focus a whole movie that's like on one aspect of the story, but I wonder how they adapted it exactly. I guess I'd have to read it and then watch it, so I would have a point of comparison. This next one is from Kid Kamura. And Kid Kamura writes,
Starting point is 01:33:17 reading Uzumaki fucked me up for life. I first tried to read it a few years ago while I was recovering from a medical procedure I have an inner ear disorder called oh boy Meniere's disease I sorry for the mispronunciation there I've heard of that disease, but I also do not know how you're supposed to pronounce it Which involves pretty intense vertigo attacks along alongside plenty of other fun symptoms reading that sarcastically at the time I was recovering from a treatment that intentionally destroys part of the inner ear of the affected side to eventually help relieve the vertigo.
Starting point is 01:33:52 In the short term though I was suffering from the worst dizziness of my life, literally bed bound and unable to move my head without experiencing severe vertigo. Perfect opportunity to catch up on some reading when I got This is like a well-constructed comment is longer, but I'm appreciating the the journey that we're on yeah when I got to the bit about Shuichi's mother stabbing herself in the ears and being struck Stuck in a constant state of vertigo it fucked me up so bad that I started having a severe vertigo attack I slammed the book shut and threw it across the room and didn't work up to nerve to finish it for another six months This was the single worst possible book. I could have read at that point
Starting point is 01:34:32 Scared by the I felt scarred by the experience thankfully I don't get vertigo attacks as often or as intense these days But it's something that can still happen at any time and with very little warning much like the town of Caruso Cho all forever be haunted by spirals Wow thanks for sharing kid come on sorry that you great comment Horrible circumstances, sorry you had to go through that yeah, jeez wow It's like watching the movie alive on an airplane, That's like that experience. You know I mean like what is the movie alive? Alive is the one where they eat each other. Yeah a plane crash
Starting point is 01:35:12 But I was got adapted I watched the the remake of the Poseidon adventure on a cruise ship Pretty good. That's very funny. I don't remember it being particularly good remember Liking the liking it at the time. This next one's from Kyle Caulfield. Hi Kyle. And Kyle writes, Matt, my brother and Arceus, spirals are indeed shapes. So you aren't here for this Heather, but- Wow. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:35:39 What did I miss? I asked out loud on the show with just Nick here, is a spiral a shape? And we didn't come to a good conclusion. What is a shape? See, now this is what we needed. Isn't a shape literally anything you can look at? Yeah, is a line a shape? Well, this is what I think, I was like, is a line a shape?
Starting point is 01:36:00 Because I was like, it's a point, a spiral to me is two points in a fixed plane, but does that constitute a shape? A spiral is two points? It's not just two points, it's, you know, there's a bunch more going on. Yeah, but it starts and it ends, no? Yeah, but maybe it's also infinite.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Yeah, I think it is a shape. I think it's maybe a two dimensional shape or a three dimensional shape, depending on how it's rendered, but I think it's very is a shape. I think it's maybe a two-dimensional shape or a three-dimensional shape, depending on how it's rendered. But I think it's very much a shape. So you're saying a shape has to finish. I think that's what I mean. There's some deliberation here in the comments.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Our previous commenter, Kit Kamura, says, I think a spiral can be a shape, but as it's essentially just a line with no interconnecting points, I'd say it's better described as a curve. See, maybe this is what I was looking for maybe it's a curve and then Kyle says so a curved shape or alternative or Alternatively a wild and crazy line We may never know what the spiral actually is, but I think I was getting close with it's a curve of some kind I want to talk to like a geometry expert. I want to talk to one too and give him a wedgie or something And also you're both so satisfied with it
Starting point is 01:37:19 Which makes it worse could you imagine me giving somebody a wedgie? It's kind of funny Which makes it worse. Could you imagine me giving somebody a wedgie? It's kind of funny. Yeah, I can. I wouldn't do it. Some tenured mathematician at Stanford University. Can this fucking Chonies pull over his head? Chonies?
Starting point is 01:37:34 It's Chonies. What is a Chony? Chonies is like what people call like undies. Oh, okay. I didn't know Chony. It's pretty funny. You'll enjoy saying it. We had fun. I didn't know choney. It's pretty funny. You'll enjoy saying it.
Starting point is 01:37:48 We had fun. Hearing it as a standalone is pretty funny. Joe K writes, Hey Joe. The mosquito straw, we were really stupid last night. I forgot we said all the stupid stuff. What is the shape? What is the spiral of shit. What is the shape? What is the spiral of shape? What is the, I think I called it a beak at first
Starting point is 01:38:09 and then we called it, we settled on straw. The mosquito straw? I mean, I know what you mean. What is it, a nozzle? Do we, does it have a name? A nozzle? Joe K says the mosquito straw is a proboscis. Probis. Yeah, or proboscis. I haven't watched this or terminator zero, and I never will You know honestly that's a fair a fair approach is to listen to the pod to see if we thought something was worthwhile and then decide
Starting point is 01:38:42 whether or not to actually watch it we were asking last week if People like getting bitten by mosquitoes Heather. Where are you at with getting mosquito bites? What the fuck it came up? This is my people like it. This is my contention because you know there's all there's people who are like like look I'll actually like rats. I think they're cute and misunderstood. I was like, no one actually likes mosquitoes. There's not anyone who's like, oh, I actually think mosquitoes are like cool, or like I like a mosquito bite, or there's no one, those people don't exist.
Starting point is 01:39:14 You've invented the type of person though. The fact that you've said it means that in our universe, it does exist. Because until then, I'd never had that thought. And the fact that I've had the thought means there's some contrarian out there Who's like I actually like mosquitoes like like worms and stuff you know well
Starting point is 01:39:33 from from commenter Deacon raid I Produce an entomology podcast called bugs need heroes and one of the hosts loves mosquitoes Wow her doctorate focuses on them and climate change It's expected that warmer climates will mean more mosquitoes And one of the hosts loves mosquitoes. Wow. Her doctorate focuses on them and climate change. It's expected that warmer climates will mean more mosquitoes. But she's been bitten by them so much that she's developed an allergy. Entomologists also sometimes get allergies to the small scales on butterfly wings. Whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:39:58 That's wild. What I'm learning here in just this comment alone, there's a lot about bugs I just don't know. Yeah. There's too many bugs. There's that, I'll say that. You can say that again. Fewer now though than there used to be. That's bad, probably.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Yeah. Also that entomologist with a degree in climate science, sounds like someone else you'd want to bully. I actually... really respect scientists. Hahahaha! Mathematicians are poindectors, but scientists, they're all right.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Yeah, math sucks. Science rules. Science is like magic. Much like the late, great Jimmy Buffett, you think math sucks, S-U-X. Jimmy Buffett wrote a song called Math Sucks. He did? He did, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:39 What the fuck? I know he's passed, but let me just say this. He has no leg to stand on for calling and saying anything sucks Whenever I walk by his restaurant There's always at least one very sad looking person in there the Jimmy Buffett's margaritaville is falling off a cliff unfortunately Ryan Quinn says hi Ryan Nick saying the plot starts to feel dizzying. Hey, buddy Guess what's also dizzying a spiral, baby. Fuck. They got me. I didn't even know that we can get owned in the comments like that I'm gonna say from henceforth never do that again
Starting point is 01:41:18 Lest you want the band of your undies on the top of your head, brother My chonies. My chonies. they're gonna rip, it's my only pair. I only get one pair a year from Christmas for my mom. Get outta here, just kidding. Sorry, Ryan, you seem like a good guy. Am I having a fever dream right now? I don't know. Dean Loud and Clear, right?
Starting point is 01:41:40 This'll be our last one. Dean Loud and Clear. Dean Loud and Clear, old pal. The Dean. Wow, I'm actually shocked at how bad this show was. It now sits alongside, oh, Fooly Cooly as easily the worst two shows that have been covered on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Wow. That's a shot. Whoa. That's a shot. That's a shot. And look, did I like that show? No. No, no. Oh no, these are not comparable. They're on completely different level. Even just from a craft standpoint,
Starting point is 01:42:07 like a Foodie Cootie, whatever you think of the content, is a great looking show. It is an abrasive watch. Yes, it adds some elements, it has some intentionally repulsive elements, but I think that's like, at minimum, that is a show. This is just a hodgepodge of ideas that don't really
Starting point is 01:42:25 that's a hot take yeah Dean but it's what I like to read I like to read a hot take I don't agree with it but I like the take cold takes miss me with that who needs it guys was that the last was that the last one that was the last one and that's that concludes our discussion of Uzumaki, let us know what you thought next week about the Sonic movie we just watched. Yes. And Heather. And also, guys, guys, I could not be more excited to say that the boys have agreed to let me watch
Starting point is 01:42:59 for the next three episodes of Get Animated, we are going to cover Gundam Requiem for Vengeance. And I cannot, I cannot say whether it is good or not, but I have a feeling that it might be good. And if it is good, then by God, I am going to get to watch a brand new Gundam show right here on the show with my friends and you the listeners. It's Gundam Requiem for Vengeance on Netflix. I'm going to go say right off the bat,
Starting point is 01:43:29 I'm not watching it in English. I'm going to watch it in Japanese. I hope you do too when we watch Gundam Requiem for Vengeance. Wow. Does Gundam have like a Terminator like chun chun chun chun chun? Not really. Kind of feels like they need one. There's too many good themes for it to have a single theme.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Oh hey that's that bodes well for us then. And you know what? I got animated. Why did you say that? I feel like I took us down like a crazy road and we kind of all went a little crazy there. You don't think Dr. Robotnik got animated? I feel like I took us down like a crazy road and we kind of all went a little crazy there. You don't think Dr. Robotnik got animated? Oh, you know, actually now that I'm thinking about it,
Starting point is 01:44:09 I think it was actually Dr. Robotnik and not me. Wait, we actually didn't touch on this actually for a second. Dr. Robotnik? Nick? Robotnik? Let's end the episode guys. That was a hate gun podcast. Hey, hey, I'm Lamorne Morris. And I'm Kyle Shevrin.
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