Get Played - Get Played's Most Iconic Video Game Character List

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

Matt, Heather and Nick break down BAFTA's Most Iconic Video Game Character List and make their own! Follow us on Twitter and Instagram @getplayedpod. Music by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.c...om. Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com. Check out our Anime watch-along podcast Get Anime'd and our complete Get Played, How Did This Get Played? and Premium DLC back catalogue only on patreon.com/getplayed. Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at getplayedpod@gmail.com Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Team we've done it. We've taken all of the most iconic video game characters of all time and genetically engineered a perfect combination of all of them. All of the attributes of the biggest, most successful video game franchise characters. This character is going to be huge. We're going to be rolling out some games and it's going to have all the play styles of all these iconic characters.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Lara Croft, Mario, Agent 47, Sonic, Sackboy, Pac-Man, and so many more all rolled into one just perfect character. I'm very, very excited what we did here today. Mario's mustache, Link's inability to speak, Solid Snake's mullet, Lara Croft's rack, Master Chief's voice. Pac-Man's ability to eat. And you know what he eats? Crash Bandicoot's Wampa Fruit. That's right, he does all of it.
Starting point is 00:00:58 That's the one thing he eats. It's kind of, that's the sort of- And he eats it really fast, like Sonic would. He eats it so, so fast. And he's also got Sonic shoes. And there's a barcode on his neck as well. And pink belly. And he's got a barcode on his neck.
Starting point is 00:01:11 But he definitely has a pink belly, the pinkest belly you've ever seen. And he's also from the Old West, like Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption. That's right, yeah. But he's also from the city. He's also from the city. He's also from the city. That's also a big part of it. Like CJ from Grand Theft Auto.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah, we got all these iconic characters all rolling into one. They're all, it's all one character. You know that phrase, everybody's here? Yeah. Everybody is here inside this one character. Everyone is here pulled from Smash Brothers. What if we took every character from Smash Brothers and smooshed them all together and made them into one?
Starting point is 00:01:44 We have created this, the the perfect most iconic video game character God's greatest creation the main character of the ultimate game and what this means going forward is there's only going to be one video game There's only going to be one video game and it stars this character. I give you Chumbush! We list a bunch of names and are objectively correct as we decide the most iconic video game characters of all time this week on Get Played! Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nick Weiger. That's me, Nick Weiger, and I am here with our third host, Matt Apodaca.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Hello everyone. Hello everyone, and welcome back to the premiere the premier video game podcast where we used to talk about bad games and it made us so miserable that now we talk about games that we love, games that we hate, games we're playing, games we're thinking about, and this week, game characters. Are we markedly less miserable though? I am.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I'm definitely less miserable. Though I do think back on it miserable. Okay, though. I do think that's some work to do Really fondly though. Yeah, sometimes. I'm like yeah, it would be fun to play a fucking terrible Atari 2600 game again Well, we always have that that option we can always we can always go back and say like hey We're gonna do a one-off and play some garbage. We've done that a times. Yeah, we've done it in the format called game slop. That's right I've really named by Nick Weigert very good. Yeah, you know what I do It's just bread and butter as far as I'm concerned and a lot of things are as bread and butter actually this guy loves bread And butter. That's true. I had some yesterday. What's your favorite bread? Oh Fuck Heather
Starting point is 00:04:21 Bread. Oh, fuck, Heather. What a question. It's sourdough with a bullet, right? I think that as I was gonna, I didn't wanna just say the obvious one, but it feels like a really high quality sourdough. It's just hard to top. That is an excellent answer.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But you know, I really like like a seeded loaf, like something with like, you know, like I'm into that. I really like a good rye, a quality rye. Rye a little too ready for me, you know what I mean? It depends on the rye. I mean, this is the thing. It's one of those, bread is one of those things where if you get it from a good bakery,
Starting point is 00:04:59 shout out to Bub and Grandma, shout out to Tyler out here. Oh, hell yeah, Tyler. What's up, Tyler? Moino listens to the the like that's like a local bakery here and they just like you get anything from there and it's just like this it doesn't fucking matter this is all hitting like I don't even know what this what what loaf this is it's not a loaf I've heard of before but you know what yeah I'm having a great time here's the thing you put some bread in front of me I'm gonna eat it and say this is good. What let me flip a question back at you
Starting point is 00:05:26 What's what's your favorite kind of bread? I think a crispy baguette Super soft inside super soft Yeah, like like the kind that you get sometimes you'll get it at like a shitty pizza restaurant Yeah, and you'll be like how is this bread so good and so plain? One of my very first jobs was I worked at Albertsons, which is a grocery store chain. Yes, great fried chicken at Albertsons. Oh, this is the problem.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. I worked there, I worked sometimes the opening shift, sometimes I worked closing shift. Oftentimes I worked basically all hours of the sometimes I worked closing shift. Oftentimes. I'd work in the I worked basically all hours of the day. Yeah. Could you believe it? Afternoons, they're pumping up that chicken, they're getting fried chicken going. You're smelling that chicken all throughout the store. But in the mornings, fresh loaves of French bread right out of the oven.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Oh yeah, I remember those loaves. And I just remember being like 19 years old and being like, I'm going to buy one of these for two dollars. Yeah. And eat it all day and just eat a loaf of bread when you're 19 years old. Could never do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Couldn't even have one piece. I was a real fan of the rotisserie chicken from a grocery store as a two-day meal when broke. Yes, absolutely. They used to, so this is, and I think it was an Albertsons, but it might have been a Vons, another, whatever, just,
Starting point is 00:06:50 I don't know how big these regional grocery chains are. Aren't they all like one, essentially? A lot of these are all owned by like Kroger, Safeway, they're the same corporate masters. But anyway, whichever store it was, they had that, they had like a rotisserie chicken and like a side of either potato salad or mac salad and then four Hawaiian rolls and it was like 5.99. It was like an absurd value.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And yeah, that's absolutely like a two days worth of meals. I invented a little sandwich at my grocery store. Oh, Matt, mutual invention. I also came up with that sandwich. You take the Hawaiian roll, you put a little bit of mac take the Hawaiian roll you put a little bit mac salad on there And you put a little bit chicken on top of it. I wasn't putting mac salad like a psycho, but oh How dare you Salad macaroni salad yeah, oh wait what you were putting that on a sandwich
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, like I could see how it works. Isn't it are we talking about wet? It's not gonna have it's okay if it's wet. It's a wet that on a sandwich? Yeah. I could see how it works. But it's wet, isn't it? Are we talking about wet? Yeah, you can have it. It's okay if it's wet. You can have wet ingredients on a sandwich. Would you think it's like, is that like in place of like a mustard kind of? Cause it has a mustard quality to it anyway. You don't necessarily need another condiment on top of it.
Starting point is 00:07:56 It's doing the job of that. Like noodles? But you could put more mustard if you wanted to. You put more mustard, but also the potato salad. I've looked it up with the potato salad, of course. Yeah. You mix it up. What else, what's happening
Starting point is 00:08:04 on the rest of the sandwich though? That's all you need! It's like bread macaroni bread? No, no, no, you put chicken on there. You put rotisserie chicken onto that bad boy. That's your protein. It's good. But I've also heard of like a spaghetti sandwich. I've heard of like, I've heard of pasta sandwich. I eat spaghetti sandwich. I eat spaghetti sandwich.
Starting point is 00:08:20 But that's got meat in it. Yeah, it's got meat in it. I thought he was just putting bread macaroni bread no That's what I was saying. I was taking some rotisserie chicken on there that was the other element made this gesture like it was fucking tearing it off I would do King's Hawaiian roll Honey mustard because the deli was right there, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Fresh fried chicken tender my guy there well there now you're cooking. That's a great. That's a great combo Yeah, the ladies back there loved me. I would he loved me and were in love with me I worked at a grocery store all I did we all work at grocery stores I never worked at one. Did you have survivors killed when the pandemic happened? I like I was like Jeremy Renner at the end of the Hurt Locker. I was like, I gotta get back to bagging. I was like, I don't know what else to do. I worked at a grocery store here in LA called yummy.com. Yes. Not far from here. There is a branch new here, but the original branch that I worked at was, it's now gone.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Because that area gentrified into oblivion. But I could not afford the sandwiches that they made at the grocery store Yes, we're working at the grocery store So I'd buy a loaf of bread peanut butter and jelly put it in my car and then like covet our own Sandwiches and like be like one day I'm gonna be rich and I'm gonna order the yummy BLT and I'm gonna eat it from start to finish is gonna be incredible and They have incredible sandwiches, but yeah, that's like a $15 sandwich. Yeah. Yeah, I mean That's that's more than an hour's labor back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah a good a good sandwich is like one of the best things you can have Absolutely, and if we had it, you know some other, we could talk about it all we wanted, but we should
Starting point is 00:10:06 probably move on to something else. Wait, Ranch, you ever work at a grocery store? I did work at a grocery store. Wow! Wow! Three of four! What did you do? I was, we had a juice bar, coffee bar, and I worked there, but then sometimes I would
Starting point is 00:10:20 be called to cashier. That feels stressful, like the juice bar, coffee bar, and a grocery store. Isn't that high volume? It is stressful, and it was this bougie grocery store in Malibu, actually. Oh man, what a nightmare. Because you gotta work with rich people.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, so a lot of them are really mean. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, a lot of them were very, very mean, and I cried a lot on that job. Jesus Christ. Can I say, I also cried at my job, which, because Yummy was, when I worked there,
Starting point is 00:10:49 which was, you know, mid 2000s, it was either extremely rich people or extremely shut in people who were ordering groceries. Cause it was also the only place it was like that and Pink Dot doing it. And the rich people, I was shocked cause I'd never had exposure to rich people, were so mean.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So mean. So mean. And I was like, if I had this money, I'd be so happy. Yeah. Like, I don't understand. But then the most miserable people are the absolute richest. It's guys like Sumner Redstone,
Starting point is 00:11:20 these fucking like 90-year-old ghouls, these incontinent guys on feeding tubes who are just like, feed me and fuck me. Like fucking literal monsters. If you listen to, there's audio of Sumner Redstone like calling, like leaving dirty voicemails. And it's just like, it's just the fucking nasties. He's dying, he's rotting, and he's just talking about like just the fucking nasties. He's dying. He's rotting Yeah, and he's just talking about like it's he's taught
Starting point is 00:11:47 He's proposed positioning women for three ways with him and Robert Evans the producer who's also like just old as shit at the time It's the fucking nastiest and he's also like miserable and angry and this is your white noise before you go to sleep Hey Nick, why don't you come over here and fuck my potatoes? On my way buddy. Rochelle, what's your favorite bread? A sourdough. A very sour sourdough. It's a great, it's a great bread.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I've always just loved it ever since I was a kid. There was a, I remember there was a time when I got my braces tightened when I had braces. Nerd. What the hell? In this room? Me roasting Nick mercilessly and then being offended that he called me a nerd.
Starting point is 00:12:38 What the hell? I also had braces. I remember one time I got them tightened. This is nerdy and sad. I tried to take a bite out of sourdough bread and it was too toasted and I couldn't take the bite. Oh man. It hurt and I couldn't do it so then I did cry.
Starting point is 00:12:58 All I wanted was the sourdough bread so bad and I had to eat fucking soup or whatever. I'm going to invent a sandwich right here right now. Please., look fuck video game. So just rock sandwiches are so much better. Okay. This is in line with what I thought Nick was Saying okay, so this is a joke sandwich. No, it's real sandwich. I think it's a good sandwich. Maybe okay sourdough bread slice of New York pizza Ranch dressing sourdough bread Okay, so you said it wasn't a joke What the fuck it's interesting? I could see it I could see it being good I could see it being good just because those components are good
Starting point is 00:13:35 But I could also see it being like like a little starchy and heavy, but I like I like it conceptual I have the I have an alt for this sound okay. This is what we're gonna do for 90 minutes I honestly couldn't be happier. Sourdough bread, tomato sauce, melted mozzarella cheese, pepperoni, sourdough bread. Put ranch dressing on it. Oh, ranch dressing as well. Yes, there we go. Sounds fine.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You take out the pizza crust. Unfortunately, one of the best breads we got to but you can have it. You could have a sourdough Pizza crust if it was a crispy crust though, cuz then you get a crunch in there. Honestly, why only do I'm so fucking hungry right now Let's get some papadillas Way to recording way too close to dinner time. Yeah, just just on the the Albertsons thing real quick I've told the story before on the podcast, I'm pretty sure, but I'll tell it again, that's what podcasting is.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I used to work at a video game studio, this was when I was doing video game design, and we were right next door to an Albertsons. And so I would go over that Albertsons either for lunch or to get a snack or whatever, I'd go there all the time. And one day I went and got an afternoon snack and I got a four piece of fried chicken from Albertsons, I go there all the time. And one day I was like, I went and got an afternoon snack and I got like a four piece of fried chicken from Albertsons, brought it back to the studio.
Starting point is 00:14:49 The end. And it looked happily ever after. So I brought it back to the studio. This was the best day of my life. I brought it back to the studio and as I like get out of the elevator, they're being like, hey, we're gonna do a meeting real quick. We got like an all design meeting.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So I bring it in to the conference room and it's the entire design team it's all of the designers yeah and it turns out and this is a quality of mine that you've no doubt picked up from working with me is like I am a bit oblivious and I also kind of don't give a fuck so I had my chicken out just on the table I just brought it with me and I just started eating it as the meeting began. So I was eating like a chicken drumstick. And my boss, the design lead is like,
Starting point is 00:15:31 okay, so we had this, I'll just say Matt, because you're here, but it wasn't his name. He said, unfortunately, we had to let Matt go. It was very painful for everybody. So I'm just really sorry. I'm eating more chicken. Like making noise. And my buddy said extra goes there goes wagger chomping on chicken dudes gotta have his chicken and everyone's just laughing at me.
Starting point is 00:15:56 This story is amazing you take this you put Tim Robinson in it, you put it on Netflix, this is the best sketch on Netflix. Like what? It's 1230, am I not supposed to eat my chicken? This incredulous dumb guy. It rocks. You don't know how hungry I am! I know this is bad, but I'm so hungry I have to. I think fried chicken also one of the top foods. One of our favorite foods. One of the best ones. I'm a huge fan of fried chicken. I love it.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I feel like I could recommend you some that would change your mind. Okay. I always feel like it's a little, I don't know. I like tempura. I like tempura chicken and tempura of shrimp and all that. Like a karaage? Yeah, I like tempura. I like tempura chicken and tempura of shrimp and all that. Like a karaage? Yeah, I like a karaage. It's good, but fried chicken, I just haven't found. The spices always make me burp afterwards.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I would, I think if you broaden, like broaden your idea of fried chicken, it becomes like a cuisine that like basically every culture has a version of. Yeah, like yeah, Korean fried chicken's very different, very good. I love Gus's is like a local chain that I really like. That's every time I get it. I think Gus's might be from Nashville. I think it's from Nashville and it's here and it's all over. I got a frantic text from my mom one day. They opened one in Long Beach.
Starting point is 00:17:17 She was very excited. Similarly frantic text when it closed. She was like, I'm devastated. It's very, very good fried chicken. Some of these places over expended. We gotta talk about video games. Yeah, exactly. A nice casual 15 minute diversion where we just hung out, talked about bread.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I'm, so here on the main feed here, this is my first time back in the studio. That's right. In six fucking months. Wild. And I am so fucking happy to be here. I love it. I love it. Let's go. in six fucking months. Wild. And I am so fucking happy to be here. I love it.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I love it. Let's go. I've been watching you guys on Zoom. It has been miserable. Also, it's really exhausting to Zoom. It just is. It's more tiring than talking in person. It is, it is.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Which is weird. I think you suffer from the same horror of humanity. Yeah, sure. So like, it's shocking to me that it is harder to talk over Zoom, but it is. It makes it worse. So I'm really happy to be here. We're happy to have you.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah. Yes. I have watched through the screen as you guys have fended off the Resident Evil Merchant. Right. We did a really good job. You've been doing a good job. We did a really good job. I watched you guys have Y2K Fest in here, it was pretty cool. That was a lot of fun. And I watched you guys, I watched you,
Starting point is 00:18:33 who was the host who came in and head to toe, like salmon pink, the guest? Yeah, we had a, I think I know who you had a we had a super pink guest who came in here We had this one guy that he was so pink. Yeah, it was earthworm Jim Earthworm Jim was extremely pink-coated without his suit. Yeah But yeah, I'm here and I'm happy to be here. It is great to see you guys in person What a treat I got to I mentioned this already on get animate over on our patreon, but I witnessed What a treat. I mentioned this already on Get Animated
Starting point is 00:19:02 over on our Patreon, but I witnessed, like Anakin Skywalker meet Obi-Wan Kenobi, I witnessed the first IRL meeting of Heather and Ranch. Wow. Yeah, yeah, it was pretty cool. Which the listeners will hear about happening after they hear this episode. Is that how it's sequenced out?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yeah. Okay, good. This is chronologically the first time I've met Ranch, even though I met her yesterday when we recorded get anime got it right Fucking tenant shit. Oh, man. This is so tenant fucking temporal pincer man. Who's directing my life Christopher Nolan This is crazy stuff. We're talking about here also on get animated you'll hear really fun to see Heather not react in person I call it the worst thing I've ever... No, I'm battle scarred. Can't get to me. Yesterday Heather gave me my sweet little boy Sora as an amiibo.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And now he's on my shelf. And you'll hear me get that On get animated. This is like a plug for getting at check it out. Check it out. We're watching solo leveling a lot of fun whoo I wasn't a lot of podcasts All right, and I hear all about this AG one stuff and I was like, what the heck even is that? I better try it. So I gave it a try because, you know, my digestion wasn't feeling its best. I wasn't feeling as focused. I felt sluggish, you know. I'm a gamer, so I have a pretty sedentary lifestyle. And I know that my immune system wasn't being supported and I was feeling pretty stressed out about it. Since drinking AG1 daily, I felt that I could feel a real difference in my daily health. I had energy, I noticed I also felt relaxed, and
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Starting point is 00:24:22 Wow. Thanks, Resident Evil Merchant, very succinct. Yeah. You want me to go low? No, this is the problem. Brevity is the soul of wit, as Oscar Oro said. I feel like you're always teeing me up for it. No, no, absolutely not. No, I think this is, you did great.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Every week I try to come in, get in, get out, grab a fish on my way through the kitchen. But you guys are like, whoa, look at you. So brief, so succinct. And then I'm like, all right, whoa, look at you. So brief, so succinct. And then I'm like, all right, well, take a seat. Yeah, once we start to pick at it, then it becomes an issue, right? So I think the lesson here is-
Starting point is 00:24:53 Right, you better leave it alone. Yeah. We should also, you should just make sure you check with Anya up front before you just take a whole fish from the kitchen, because that may be for another podcast. That could be someone's lunch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:04 OK, well, I'm leaving a fish. Oh, you're leaving a fish. You take a fish? Yeah, leave a fish, take a fish. Okay, sure. Kind of a life philosophy. I think it might be Chef Kevin's fish. Alright, well, he's getting a surprise fish. Okay, that's going to be hard for him to deal with. How you guys been?
Starting point is 00:25:22 I've been great. We see you all the time. I know, I see you guys all the time But it's been I'd say honestly it's been good. I rented a car. Oh, how about that? big moves Okay, so what did you do like a Kia Sportage? What did you go with? It's a Mustang. Oh boy It's an older model. It's like a 1998 Mustang. Right It's weird that 1998 is like an older model now, but I guess that's how time works.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I know. Is that, there's a place? If you're a model, and you were born 1998, you're old now too. Is that true? Like a model model? I guess you'd be like 26, so yeah, you'd be on... Done. Yeah, it's a cruel industry.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Get to the diner, sweetie. Yeah. Whether it be the Olympics? What does that mean? Wait, what? You aged out of being a model? Go get a different job. Get to the diner, sweetie. Whether it be the Olympics? Wait, what? You aged out of being a model? Go get a different job. So you think there's a model to diner pipeline?
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's like a straight line. Yeah, it explains why all the waitresses are so fucking hot. I don't like you being horny. Don't be horny. Also, there's no way that the listener heard this. There was a big pop in the office Like a big laugh. Yeah timed exactly At the previous joke and it it made me laugh. It was it was very exciting Wait, can they hear me? I'm like someone outside was like somebody outside was laughing
Starting point is 00:26:38 It's impossible that they were laughing at us, but it made me laugh to think that it could have been a possibility Nobody makes eye contact with me as I come in and out of the building But it made me laugh to think that it could have been a possibility. Nobody makes eye contact with me as I come in and out of the building. Yeah, I think I can... We are 7'2". Maybe read something into that. Hey, do you have a Resident Evil merchant we were talking earlier, because we were talking about grocery stores,
Starting point is 00:26:58 and you're something of a merchant. Yes. You're kind of in that field. Do you have a favorite bread? Ooh, that's a good question. You're kind of in that field. Do you have a favorite bread? Oh It's a good question Peter You know what we didn't really explore the flatbreads, but you know I like I love like oh my god I love a flatbread. You know I like is like a roti just like there's a lot of people get like the naan
Starting point is 00:27:19 But the roti is more though like the wheat base Cheese garlic naan. I love a cheese garlic naan. That's an adult. The thing about a pita is it's a, what is the phrase? It's like a high ceiling. What? The floor. I feel like the-
Starting point is 00:27:36 High ceiling, low floor. A lot of variance. Maybe because I feel like a bad pita is worthless to me. I've gotten a lot of shitty, this is directly out of plastic pita. Like you'll go to places just like, oh, this has like a great Mediterranean, like, you know, a Euro plate or chicken
Starting point is 00:27:52 or something like that. But then you're just getting a really shitty pita. I can't believe we're back to bread. Versus like a fresh baked pita. I love it. Like a straight out of the oven pita is a delight. Yeah, my top three breads are definitely pita, non communion wafer hmm. Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:08 Because I Any bread that's got a little bounce to it. I'm suspicious of right I just think the for a pita to be good It has to have like good structural integrity because like yeah one of these out of the plastic ones you've tried to fold it You try to wrap it around something. It snaps in half, what are we doing? It sounds like it tastes like nothing. This is just empty calories. Yeah, cause a lot of times they're plain. Sometimes they're baked with a little bit of butter and some seasoning. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Which bread? Which one? Uh, pita. Yeah, no, yeah. Have you ever had a pita, peanut butter and jelly sandwich? I have not. It is incredible. Oh wow, I can see that what that may be working. You should really talk to Heather because Heather also loves peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I have not Oh, wow that I could see that what that may be working Yeah, I really talked to Heather because Heather also loves peanut butter and jelly. Yeah, it's really yeah
Starting point is 00:28:50 She runs when I come in. Well, yeah, you're very scared. Yeah, I'm tall I'm tall and also I wanted to point out when you said you rented a car I feel like we just learned a new fact about you. You're at least 25. I Always assumed you were over 25. Yeah, I'm over 25. I'm me you thought over 25. Yeah I'm over 25. You thought I was... That's nice. What a compliment. What a nice thing to say. I'm trying to be charming. That's sweet. That's good. I think we also learned a detail when you said communion wafer was one of your favorite types of bread. You apparently go to church? Yeah. I mean you could buy those. Oh, got it.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So you're not actually having the holy sacrament. You know there's like church supply stores? Yes. Yeah, I do know this. Yeah, yeah. You can go in there and buy stuff that's holy and you can just eat it. I think because it hasn't gone through the ritual of transubstantiation, it actually hasn't.
Starting point is 00:29:40 The communion wafer is already blessed. But you can house it like a sheath of Ritz crackers. Put it out at a charcuterie board. Yeah, you can do whatever you want. There are no rules except the ones we make. Damn. Yeah, it's true. I'm getting freaking, I feel like I'm getting blazed right now. What are you guys talking about this week?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Is this the episode where I'm on the entire time? No, no, I don't think that's actually the episode. We're actually are gonna talk about the most iconic video game characters of all time. So who knows maybe you'll be a makeup presence. That's really sweet. But I'll let you guys get to it. Man of Odaka. What are you playing? Was he doing the voice from Dune?
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah, I felt like that was like extremely Benedjessiric coded. Yeah. Yeah. You like have to do it. Okay, so I guess what I'm playing is I'm back on, I put down, I had to excuse myself from Bellatro I Had to get myself out of the equation right 100% I experienced a similar thing I don't think I've put that many hours into it. I think I've put at least seven hours Not nothing for a game like that, but I put a lot more
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yeah, I had to I had to step away because it is too fun and too good and I needed to get back to My boys my gang my squad my girls Final Fantasy 7 rebirth Wow and right now I would say of the three of us I've put in the most time on this thing easily I'm about 63% done with the story, it says on the PlayStation menu, and about 73 hours played. So there was a point where those numbers could have been closer to each other. And maybe even the same at one point. Now, they're two ships in the night. They're gone. They'll never be close to each other and maybe even the same at one point. Now, they're two ships in the night, they're gone.
Starting point is 00:31:47 They'll never be close to each other ever again. I guess. Well, probably that's not true. What are you saying? I don't know. Because one's not gonna get lower and the other one's, they're both gonna increase over time. So no, they could still, they can match up again.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I thought it was on to something. It's okay. I thought it was on to something. It's okay I thought it was cooking. I thought it the resident evil merchant came in here and said we're the rule in the I haven't left Yeah, I just stand over in the corner You can't see me that way you sort of like Blair witch yourself in the corner over there. Oh, I love that movie What's happening in that movie? We don't have time to I think that I think that's pretty good. What's happening in that movie? We don't have time to get into it. I think that's part of the appeal of it.
Starting point is 00:32:28 It's just, you're just like, oh, you have a general sense of menace, but you don't have crystal clarity on what's going on. I for sure had told this story, probably when we did the Blair Witch VR episode, but when that movie came out, I was like, this trailer's crazy. Like I saw it when I was a little kid, the trailer,
Starting point is 00:32:44 I was like, that's pretty scary. My aunt saw it when I was a little kid, the trailer. I was like, that's pretty scary. My aunt, who is now very Christian, said to me, it's real, and I started to cry. I was like, wow, that looks really scary, it's real. Like with that, like that speed basically. I have a similar story. I think I've told this on the podcast before. My parents would show me R rated movies and then pause them and be like,
Starting point is 00:33:16 this is how this is being done. You could see the special effect and here's how they make the special effect work so that I wasn't afraid of movies. In case I ever saw scary movies or whatever on my own, I'd be like, oh, that's not a real skeleton walking, it's claymation or whatever. But one day we were watching The Predator as a family
Starting point is 00:33:35 and my grandmother came in and went, what are you doing? She's so angry and my parents were like, no, no, no, no. We pause it, we show her and she's like, what if she thinks it's coming for her? And that changed my relationship to predicate it. And I was like, what? And then I start crying. And my parents are like, no, no, no, it's not real, it's not real, I'm getting, come get me.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And like the TV before that you watched was like Poltergeist, so you're like familiar with things coming out of the TV I Had a discovery when I was playing rebirth this week. Yeah, and I informed you guys of it It took me forever to read. I didn't I don't know why I hadn't had this realization even playing Original when it took me seeing his 3D model to recognize that Kate Sith looks like my cat. And that's very nice. He's a little black and white, little tuxedo boy, and doesn't have the same sort of coloring on him,
Starting point is 00:34:33 but now I look at him and I see my boy Kate Sith and that's pretty fun. I love that. But also, my party is huge right now. It's great. This game just is so goddamn good. I'm really enjoying it. I'm not slowing down on the side quests. It pains me. I'm in an area right now where there are a lot more side quests than there have been thus far. and the icon for if you want to continue the story go that way icon is there and I'm sort of like I'll get to you when I get to you when I get to you because these side quests are they're fun I like doing them
Starting point is 00:35:17 a lot of them I was talking about the variety earlier a lot of them end up do being kind of similar but they're paced out well enough we're like I haven't done something like this in a while sure I just had to corral a bunch of chickens And that feels like something that you shouldn't do 60 plus hours that feels like an early type of side quest this I was like this is kind of fun Is that the quest that PETA was? Like shout it out because? The bread? No, the chickens.
Starting point is 00:35:47 We cannot continue talking about bread. The chickens! Okay, I thought you were mentioning the PETA bread. No, PETA. P-E-T-A. Okay, I see. Was that on purpose? I was of course- I can't tell.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Doing it for fun. Oh, for fun. Okay, no, I got it. No, I just wanted to know where we were. Look, I don't- I'm not here to make you feel bad. It doesn't surprise me that PETA, the organization, would be mad at something dumb. Like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:36:18 That's what they do, that's their gimmick. I don't like that. I thought there was like a Gene Park, PETA triangle, like a thing. There was a thing that I saw, and thought there was like a Jean Park, PETA triangle, like a thing. There was a thing that I saw that, and Jean Park was like, no, don't put me in that. Cause it was like a quest where you gather a bunch of chickens and then they're like, okay,
Starting point is 00:36:36 now to throw those chickens in the stew. And you cut to like, red 13 and he's upset about it. And then PETA was like, red 13's right. You should need a chicken Take it from this talking animal chickens are Almost bugs they're almost bugs to me. They I don't want it. I don't want to be on a shirt like there are like a lot of like I don't want to get into all of the Moralities because like that's like of course like We shouldn't be eating meat on the whole we just shouldn't but there are some we won't be soon
Starting point is 00:37:11 We won't there be no left. Yeah But chickens, I think we I think chickens I'll go as far to say have no souls They do they go to hell. I think yeah, you have to make some compromises. Look, you have to eat life forms to sustain yourself as a life form. But that said, I mean, you certainly can eat entirely plant-based if you have the means to do so. And forego all of that. As far as animals go, I don't fucking...
Starting point is 00:37:41 Man, you just gotta make your choices. Yeah, pigs are tough. You gotta have your own morality. I don't eat pigs anymore. I don't eat pork right? I don't eat. I don't eat cephalopods is a Maypole the kind of thing where you like There's like a ball on a tether and you throw it and then it gets closer and closer to the pole Is that a maypole? I mean there just is the thing where you they I think that's the thing We're fucking you hold on to a ribbon and you just walk around it
Starting point is 00:38:06 in a circle, right? Isn't that what a maypole is? But I thought there was like a weight. Isn't that the tether, isn't that just tether ball? I don't know. Are you just describing tether ball? I don't know, but I feel like food on this episode of this show is the maypole.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah, it just keeps coming back. Yeah, yeah. I think we're just hungry. We should have just had a snack before we recorded. I did, I tried. Oh well But all that to say Rebirth very very good. There have been times while playing this and this might be I Don't I haven't really dug in on the discourse of what people are thinking about the game
Starting point is 00:38:37 So I don't know if people love this game or don't like it I think it's been a pretty positive response like overwhelming There have been moments throughout the game where I've thought this feels extremely like Kingdom Hearts in a positive way So I've been enjoying that element of it Not in so much like the story tell some of the story Some of the things that they've done with the story feel a little Kingdom Hearts some of the certainly the black-robed figures. Oh, yeah feel a little Kingdom Hearts, some of the, certainly the black robed figures. Oh yeah. Very Kingdom Hearts. There are some mini games that are extremely Kingdom Hearts in this game
Starting point is 00:39:10 and some of the abilities feel Keyblade combat adjacent as well. Wow. Okay. So, this game to me rules. It's very very good. But that's it for me. I'm so glad to hear it Yeah, I'm all in on Final Fantasy 7. Heather. What are you playing? I am First off I want to say I hit diamond rank in Ranked fortnight Wow and I want to shout out a listener to a bunch of tobocito who is who's been a
Starting point is 00:39:41 ranked duo Partner and we've had some fantastic rounds where we nonstop laugh while also ranking up. It's really great. What a hoot. What a hoot, but I haven't had a ton of time to play Fortnite. My hours have been all scattered.
Starting point is 00:39:58 My squad hasn't been online. So I've been playing Dragon's Dogma, and I haven't bounced off it. If anything, I'm deeper in and I have still not left the initial town. I mean, there's like a town that you start in, but like the first city you get to. I'm still running quests in that town
Starting point is 00:40:21 because I refused to look at a guidebook. So it's been a lot of trouble. It'll be like one of the quests was like find some place where this guy can read And I was like what the fuck yeah like how do you do that unless you go in? Literally every building in the city right so I went in every building in the city Couldn't find a place for him to read and then discovered later that a different unrelated quest gets you to a hidden place in the city where there's a place for a guy to read, and the quests are linked, conceptually,
Starting point is 00:40:52 which is really nice. And I was like, oh great, I found the place where this guy can read. And then he was like, it was a quest where you had to break into a dungeon, there's a guy in a cell, you have to sneak past guards. The first time I did it, I didn't sneak, You had to break into a dungeon. There's a guy in a cell. You have to sneak past guards.
Starting point is 00:41:07 The first time I did it, I didn't sneak and I murdered a lot of people. And it was really rough because I had to restart the game because I realized you're not supposed, like the game was giving me like, hey, you have to spend your own wake stones, which are like your, like bring you back to life if somebody dies. You have to spend these to bring these civilians
Starting point is 00:41:29 back to life, and if you don't, they're gonna go to the morgue. And I was like, okay, all this sounds bad. I gotta get outta here, so I restarted. But you break into the dungeon, you get to the guy, and he's like, I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving unless I have some place to read because I like it here.
Starting point is 00:41:47 It's nice, it's quiet. And I was like, oh, fuck, okay. And then you just leave him in there. I was like, I snuck all the way here to get this guy to like chew me out. And then I find a place for him to read and I have to go back, break back into the dungeon, escort him out of the dungeon.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And he's like, great, now I'm gonna go read. I have, you know have my three pawns. I've seen what happens when a pawn dies for the first time. They just go back to the rift. So I have to go to the rift and find a new pawn. Part of that is a really fun, what would I, it's like a flea market of people's custom designs.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So the last time I went into the Rift to look for pawns, there's Legolas, looks exactly like Legolas. Is named Legolas. There's Kratos, looks exactly like Kratos. Is a berserker, so he's got a similar-esque moveset. I'm assuming you can use the same Character creation tool set that you could for your own character with making the pawns and that one at the Dragon's Dog Well to one is famously robust. Yeah, it's so robust like these you know there
Starting point is 00:42:57 There's like a I saw a verner hurtzog. Oh who was photo identical I saw Who was the one I saw oh, I saw the dude from and or Wow Cassian and or no no no uh the the guy who's like my my my my My dreams are ghosts. I live alone What have I sacrificed? until scars dark fellow that guy the
Starting point is 00:43:25 Baron Harkonnen oh yeah same same actor the scars are that guy the Baron Harkin in oh yeah, same same actor. Yeah, yeah that guy. I saw him in the rift But I chose a woman in a bag with over her head, and I was like that's fucking great Did you sit shit to the Her personality. Did you switch it to the Heather Ann Campbell filter? Which one's would I pick? Her personality is also generous. So she's like, she's much taller than me. And she's got a back over her head.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And she says like, I'll help you find ingredients and then I'll combine them in order to help you with your way of raising. And so like while we're out like running a quest, she'll be like, oh look over there, a treasure chest. And the other pawns will like chew her out, they'll be like, this isn't the time, we're in the middle of combat.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And another one will be like, I say, if you abandon us here to go open that chest, I'll be upset with you. And she'll just run off and be like, look what I found, Arisen, I found flowers, I'll combine them with you, and she'll just run off and be like look what I found there is an iPhone flowers I'll combine them to make a potion as we're like being fucking slaughtered by a cyclops. It's great fun Every you're telling me a little bit about it yesterday, too Every time I hear something about it. I think this sounds great and
Starting point is 00:44:39 Then also I will never I'll never do this. Because it just sounds like, it doesn't have enough hand holding, like onboarding, and I need that stuff. I need quest markers, I need like. It has quest markers. But you finished Elden Ring. I don't think that this is a impossible barricade for you. It definitely,
Starting point is 00:45:01 it has like markers on the map. Like they come up automatically. And you switch between your priority quest and it'll change what markers markers on the map like they come up automatically and you switch between your priority quest and it'll change what markers are on your map because I did see somebody make a Make their character look like like buff Lord Farquaad from Shrek I do now want to play as Lord Farquaad It's great. It's super fun. It is not challenging It's great. It's super fun. It is not challenging
Starting point is 00:45:30 That I like to hear it is just easy times. It's like if Elden Ring is your fancy Italian Meal with like multi courses and you're like, oh I have to choose a dolt Adulce and a treat treat Cotor say like if I have to choose all these things and then I get a little, like, go through, that's Elden Ring. This is Kraft Macaroni and Cheese. This is a slice of bread with pizza and ranch dressing on top of it and another slice of bread. It's so, it's just, it never, I'm never like, ugh, I really have to focus.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah. Ever. That's good. I'm like, oh, I'll just run a quest. It's great. Okay. I love that. I'm like, oh, I'll just run a quest. It's great. I love that. Nick Weiger, what are you playing? Heather, thanks for asking.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I first off want to say, last week with a friend, Grant Pardee, we talked about Sonic the Hedgehog, and I mentioned the Sonic the Hedgehog IHOP menu. I did go back. Let me just say this. I think the menu's really good. For me, I was surprised because that was gonna be too much for me,
Starting point is 00:46:34 but I really think the shadow chocolate pancakes are the standout. They were really hit. Hold on. They're double chocolate chip pancakes. They're chocolate pancakes with chocolate chips on them and chocolate sauce. You complained last week that the pancakes were too much. Now you're saying, I got more pancakes and they were good.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Well this is the thing. It's like more, that one's more explicitly a dessert. I see. Kind of in the same way that Amy Rose's waffle sundae is the same sort of thing. They're both like more deserty. And it just being a dessert versus like taking, trying to take the breakfast portion of the menu. I think it actually works better.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Knuckle sandwich, it's fine. I do think like the sub role is maybe a miscalculation. In Nick Weigert parlance, that was brutal. That was, that sandwich is done. That sandwich is never coming back. No, I didn't dislike it. But I wanted to use the bulk of my time to talk about a movie.
Starting point is 00:47:32 To talk about chocolate chip cookies. Ha ha ha ha ha ha 2022, an independent film in Wisconsin, and it was an attempt to make the definitive Wisconsin movie. It's titled Hundreds of Beavers. It was directed by Mike Cheslik and written by Cheslik and Rylan Bricks and Cole Tooze, who is also the star of the movie and is in like every scene. It's like very much his movie. This is a mostly silent black and white film set in the 19th century and it's based around the character that Rylan Bricks in Cole Two's plays is an Applejack salesman who's trying
Starting point is 00:48:15 to become a fur trapper and so he does battle with the titular hundreds of beavers who are all played by actors in mascot suits. It's in limited theatrical release and Natalie and I saw it with a very full house at a theater in Santa Monica. I had a fucking great time. They were loving it. It's so fun. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:48:34 It's so goofy. It is so silly. But the reason I'm mentioning it is because it has a video game structure. It is a video game ass movie. It uses a world map that the protagonist Consults and comes up full frame and you use to like both navigate the he used to navigate the world and it helps you Navigate the story like where you are in the story beats him circling through these different locations
Starting point is 00:48:57 He has an inventory and then he's collecting beaver pelts as he goes through all these like, you know, just like like a He's collecting beaver pelts as he goes through all these like, you know, just like classic movie like silent film style gags, like pratfall gags, a lot of slapstick, a lot of vaudeville comedy with, again, with guys in mascot suits as beavers. So it's all very, very goofy, very silly, but also impressively shot. It's like shot largely in the Wisconsin wilderness. There's a lot of snow and there's also like a lot of VFX in it that are really elegantly used for something at this budget, elegantly implemented. But then it's also got a lot of stuff that like feels like stuff that would happen in
Starting point is 00:49:36 like a platform game, like those sorts of gags. But as he's doing battle with these beavers, he collects their pelts and then he goes to a shop and he goes to the shop and it's just a straight up video game shop where he's doing battle with these beavers, he collects their pelts and then he goes to a shop and he goes to the shop and it's just a straight up video game shop where he's like, and that's where he's buying stuff from. So like, it's like got all this kind of like video game pastiche stuff that doesn't feel gratuitous or fan service-y.
Starting point is 00:49:56 It's like just in service of the story and actually makes it like, it feels like it should rub against all the silent film specifics, but then you realize how much they're both like references to crude versions of the medium, right? It's like those very early video games, those very early movies, and somehow marrying the two
Starting point is 00:50:14 makes a ton of sense aesthetically. Someone in the Discord said the director, Mike Czeslik, cited SNES games as an inspiration. I could not find a source on that, specifically him saying that. There's a lot of writing about the film and a lot of criticism about the film that's talking about how Nintendo it feels,
Starting point is 00:50:32 how Super Nintendo it feels. But definitely it wears those influences on its sleeves. And you can definitely infer that that's where a lot of the stuff is sourced from. But Hundreds of Beavers, I just think it's just, it's a very funny comedy and it's just also really cool that these people made it on their own and made something really unique and specific
Starting point is 00:50:54 that just feels like it's a singular artistic vision. So yeah, I really enjoyed it and would recommend it to anyone who is looking for a fun time in a movie theater if it's playing in your town. Wow. Yeah, that was not on my radar at all. Yeah, I think you'd like it a lot. I'm gonna check it out. Yeah Yeah, well there you go. Okay. All right. Let's I saw monkey man. I saw monkey man, too I was already video gaming. I'm going later this week. All right. There you go
Starting point is 00:51:33 All right, let's talk about the most iconic video game characters. I don't know what exactly we want to call this, but that's what the BAFTA poll was. So this was a BAFTA poll from- Can we call the episode BAFTA bullshit? B is for bullshit. BAFTA had this poll from a couple weeks back as of this episode's release. The most iconic video game characters according to a poll of 4,000 people. BAFTA says more than 4,000 gamers around the world took place in the poll through its website. So it is definitely, you know, an element, there's an element of self-selection and selection bias in terms of how this list is created and also
Starting point is 00:52:05 it coming from BAFTA, I think skews it a little bit more towards the kind of people who would use the BAFTA website, a more British audience, a more European audience. But my lukewarm take is that the order is the big issue here. I don't think a lot of these characters being on this list is terrible. I think if you kind of look at it overall, you know, and don't worry about the ranking as much as, like this is a decent representation of some of the more recognizable characters in video games. This is an insane list.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's an insane list, but I think like you could also like pull individual characters from it and sort of say like, okay, there is Mario's on here, Link's on here, Pac-Man's on here, Pikachu's on here, Solid Snake's on here, you know, it's got a lot of the big ones. But it's called the most iconic characters of all time, right?
Starting point is 00:52:49 I'm gonna say that this list largely fails the silhouette test. Interesting. And if you can't, like you cannot put a silhouette of Nathan Drake and God bless her, Ellie Williams, on a fucking board and be like, who are these people? They're just people. Right, but I mean, there's also like,
Starting point is 00:53:13 those are also different aesthetics, you know? Like someone like Kiryu from the Yakuza Like a Dragon franchise is like, you know, aesthetically very different from Crash Bandicoot, who would pass the silhouette test. Let me just read down the list so everyone has context for this. Here, I'll read the top ten. Number ten, Shadowheart, recently by us, Ahoy.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Number nine, Kratos. Number eight, Master Chief. Number seven, Link. Number six, Pac-Man. Number five, Sackboy. Number four, Sonic. Number three, Agent 47. Number two, Mario, and number one, and this is what created a lot of the headlines, Lara Croft, Tomb Raider, the most iconic video game character of all time according to this BAFTA poll of horny idiots. I was thinking about this number one spot in particular with Lara Croft because I disagree. Mm hmm. Right?
Starting point is 00:54:05 Like, I mean, I guess I don't want to say what my number one would be from this list, but Lara Croft, maybe on the list. Sure. I think maybe based on name recognition alone, like let's remember there were What hers was her series was one of the first like video game series to get a movie adaptation that was like a serious like Like it's for sure and with a movie star playing yes playing the character yes So you know that people know her name outside of that yeah? No, it may she maybe has a belongs on this list at some ranking, but I don't know if number one.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I could be wrong, but I feel like Mortal Kombat came out before the Lara Croft movies. That is true, that's a good point. And there isn't a single Mortal Kombat character on this list, not that I could name a Mortal Kombat character. Well, okay, so this is what I think the exercise is going to be, because I think we're going to collectively try to decide, we haven't discussed any of this, but I think our own top 10, I think the exercise is going to be because they were going to collectively try to decide I don't know we haven't discussed any of this, but I think I think that I think our own top ten
Starting point is 00:55:08 I think like I think that's probably the right number try to try to come up with what is the actual definitive? Iconic video game character list one of the characters that define gaming that at a glance you can kind of say like have an understanding Of what video game gaming is so we so we each pitch top 10, and then we're gonna like, if we all have the same, how does this work? I think we're just gonna have a discussion. I think we're just gonna figure it out as we go. It'll be like a definitive top 10, will be our each top 10.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Well, the three of us are gonna collaborate on one list. All right. Unless there's a true schism, and then we can take it from there. But the Mortal Kombat thing. He's pointing at me. No, I was- They're both pointing at me. Hold on. Everybody's pointing at me. They're both pointing at me. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Everybody's pointing at me. Rachelle just pointed too. I am going to, here's what I was trying to say. Going back to Mortal Kombat, your point, which I think is a good one, this is kind of the issue, and I think when I mentioned recency bias and we got shadow art on here, and if you expand it out to the top 20,ar is also on the list that is because people are like well I like Baldur's Gate 3 Baldur's Gate 3 is you know in the zeitgeist and it's recent and speaking for myself It is my favorite video game, so I want to represent that but does that game have a defining character?
Starting point is 00:56:19 That's the other thing and Mortal Kombat might this be the same thing because of its sprawling roster Yeah, it is the game defined by by Scorpion or Sub-Zero or Liu Kang or Johnny Cage or what have you or is there just no entry for? Mortal Kombat I think we need to discuss the like what we mean by iconic because I'm not talking about like Arthur Morgan is not Iconic Ronald McDonald is my car. Yeah He's like what is an icon? And I think that a lot of the, like, I fucking love the Yakuza series.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's fucking great, like a dragon, great. But like, is he iconic? No, I think, I mean, maybe, but I think you could make a case for it. But I also feel like, if I see somebody wearing a silver suit and a red shirt, I'm thinking Kiryu. Like I just think that's what he looks like.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I think there's an element of, you look at this character, going back to what you were saying originally, Heather, going back to the silhouette test, you look at this character like, oh yeah, that guy from that video game, I know who that is. And I feel like Pac-Man fucking passes that.
Starting point is 00:57:24 People look at Pac-Man, they're like, I know who Pac-Man is, Pac-Man makes me think of Pac-Man. Oh, it's the star of Pac-Man, Pac-Man. I think someone like Cloud Strife, who's also on the larger top 20 list, also was passed, it's like, oh, that guy from Final Fantasy VII.
Starting point is 00:57:39 You know what I mean? It's a spiky blonde guy. Exactly, so I think that's maybe the direction to head in, but also we don't even have to Do most iconic we can pick our ten favorite characters Yeah, cuz on this on this list alone than that I'm taking off and it isn't because I dislike these games at all I'm taking off Nathan Drake. I'm taking off Ellie. I love both these characters love. I'm taking off Kiru I'm taking off a star so I just want characters. Love. I'm taking off Kiryu. I'm taking off Astarion.
Starting point is 00:58:06 So I just want to be clear, because I just read the top 10 list. Matt is reading, looking at the top 20 list. Should I read this whole list? I guess I will. Let's get them all out here. Number 11, Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption 2. Number 12, Pikachu.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Number 13, Steve from Minecraft. Number 14, Solid Snake. Number 15, Crash Bandicoot. Number 16, Cloud Strife. Number 17, Astarion from Baldur's Gate 3, number 18, Kazuma Kiryu, from the Like a Dragon franchise, number 19, Ellie from The Last of Us, and number 20, Nathan Drake. Can I say another thing about this fucking list? Don't say it's too small. I'm gonna point at the list because I'm angry at it.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah. Okay. Your character is not iconic if you have to put the name of the game after the character. Yes. I think the one exception is Steve from Minecraft, because if you just see Steve, you're like, I mean, I think people will still put that together, but I think these he's really will not. But like Kratos is not the name, like you can't,
Starting point is 00:59:01 like Mario is the name of the game, sure. Sonic is the name of the game, right is the name of the game yes, right But Kratos is not the name of God of War and the fact that he can be on that list and you don't have to put A parentheses after him, but you do after Arthur Morgan means that Arthur Morgan doesn't belong on the list or Master Chief But I also think a lot of people know Arthur Morgan from the name. I mean you Matt you know that I knew that I mean I would know it sight unseen for sure, but I I think I would take Arthur off the list even, because, like, I don't know, if we're talking about silhouette test,
Starting point is 00:59:32 you can make Arthur look however you want. Let's take a step back. I don't think we should be married to this list. I also, I kind of think we should start from scratch. If we wanna say like that one shouldn't be on it That's fine But I think there's a broader way to think about this which is like yeah if we're talking about video games holistically Which franchises should be represented because I think part of the desire to put Arthur Morgan on this and part of the reason there
Starting point is 00:59:57 was some sort of you know a collective momentum behind his candidacy is because if You look at some of the most critically revered games of all time and some of the biggest selling games of all time, they are rockstar games. They are the Grand Theft Auto franchise, they are Red Dead Redemption 2, but it's also like, what is the individual character
Starting point is 01:00:17 you pull from all of those? And it's kind of the moral combat problem of like, for me, I'd probably think CJ from Grand Theft Auto over Arthur Morgan, but I think there's just kind of a general sort of idea of like there's one central protagonist we can latch on to. I think the silent protagonist from Grand Theft Auto 3 is more iconic than Arthur Morgan. I mean maybe. But I also think that when you think of it as iconography,
Starting point is 01:00:42 none of the characters from Mortal Kombat really stand out except maybe forearm guy Goro, right? I love Goro. Because you're like, oh, it's that forearm guy from the fighting game. But I do think that Chun-Li transcends Street Fighter. I think everybody knows who Chun-Li is, which means that she belongs on this fucking list. I could say, I think there's a strong case for Chun-Li. The problem with Street Fighters, there's also Ryu, there's also Guile, there's Dalsum, there's Zangief.
Starting point is 01:01:09 As a person who loves the franchise, I agree, those are great characters, but they aren't iconic in the same way that Chun-Li is. Chun-Li is like... There's a Nicki Minaj song about Chun-Li. Yeah, it's Chun-Li. Yeah, but Zangief is in Wreck-It Ralph. Well, you don't even like that movie.
Starting point is 01:01:24 You're only bringing it up so you can talk about how it's a candy movie and not a video game movie. I have a provocative character to elevate to the conversation. Leader suit Larry? Who I don't... I'm leaving, I'm fucking getting out of the studio. Well, that's kind of fun, that's a new element.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Heather could leave. She could threaten to leave. And this is again, just to be like, hey, this is an iconic character. I don't believe that he belongs on the list. But I do think he passes the silhouette test. And I do think that if you see him in any context, like you could put Ellie in a,
Starting point is 01:02:01 you know, like take up all of these characters and put them in a packed dance hall, right? You're gonna have trouble pointing to some of them and be like, oh, it's that person, right? And Ellie is one of those people, unfortunately. Even though I think The Last of Us is maybe, Last of Us Part II may be my favorite game of all time after Disco Elysium.
Starting point is 01:02:19 And I would never put Harry on this fucking list either. No. But. Hmm, could you put Harry on this list? But. I put Kim over here. I think Pyramid Head is iconic. Pyramid Head's a good one.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I wrote Pyramid Head down. All right, I think as we go, we should start to write some of these down. Just in a general sort of brainstorming category, we can take it from there. But Chun-Li was mentioned, I think that's a strong candidacy. I said, I don't think we should have CJ.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I hope I said San Andreas. I feel like I accidentally said Grand Theft Auto V. I hope you know what I mean. No a strong candidacy. I said I don't think we should have CJ. I hope I said San Andreas I feel like I accidentally said Grand Theft Auto 5. Yeah, I hope you know what I mean. No, I think you said CJ. But you know I think Chun-Li was one that was mentioned. What was the other one that came up? Pyramid Head. Pyramid Head I think is another good candidate. Yeah, but I honestly kind of think let's stop fucking around Let's just put Mario at number one. Is there any character that's gonna be number one? Mario's just number one. Mario's number one, Pikachu Pikachu's number two Sonic is three. That's how it goes I think that's a really strong one two three
Starting point is 01:03:12 I feel less solid about about those second two But I think those both belong in the top ten somewhere then it's Mario Sonic Pikachu But if that's the case, I think everybody knows who fucking Pikachu is everybody. Yeah No, it's true. I mean there's maybe a thing that that Pikachu is the boat is better known because Pokemon is the most successful franchise Kind of all time. I have Pikachu at the top of my list. I put Pikachu number one. Pikachu number one Yeah, put Pikachu number one who gives a shit But I think we also might have to accept and this is maybe a generational thing that we just have to come to terms With Steve from Minecraft probably belongs in the top ten. It just probably does But I think we also might have to accept, and this is maybe a generational thing that we just have to come to terms with, Steve from Minecraft probably belongs in the top 10.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It just probably does. Yeah, but are we doing it? I mean, that's the thing of just like, this isn't our, it's not our generation, but it's also like, I think just like, if you're talking about video games overall, like it's just like, it feels like an incomplete list unless you're acknowledging that.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I would accept Steve from Minecraft in that top five because I feel like he dominates, but on the other hand, how much of Minecraft is about the character and how much of it is about, like, if you see Minecraft, like the world of Minecraft, you're like, oh, fuck, it's fucking Minecraft. Yes, right, no, that's a good point,
Starting point is 01:04:23 that it's maybe not based on the character, and since it is a game that's largely played from a first-person perspective anyway. I have a nomination. I don't know if he's gonna make it on the list, but I'm just gonna put it under Pyramid Head over here. Freddy Fazbear. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Is that the bear in Five Night at Freddy's? Yes. My argument against that would be that movie sucked. The movie sucks, but everybody- Sort of the Silent Hill movie. Yeah, if we're going off of what movies of video games are good, this is gonna be an empty list. I like the Silent Hill movie. But I think at least Freddy is like,
Starting point is 01:05:04 people know who Freddie is yeah I think it's worth it. He's worth putting on the short make it But I just I would also if we're along those lines, let's also slap in Gordon Freeman from the Half-Life games I think I'm going to say I think I think link probably belongs the shortlist Master Chief belongs to the shortlist probably in the top ten Pac-Man Pac-Man sure I think The thing is like with the Souls games are another issue. It's just like you look at all the FromSoft games, there's not like one character that you can kind of pick.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I agree and none of this is about like whether or not the franchises and the games are iconic, these are characters. Samus I think probably belongs in consideration. Kratos from God of War Like you could always look at a screenshot of fortnight and be like hey, it's fortnight, but nobody's gonna be like oh Peely is so iconic. Yeah sure or what's the Jonesy? Yeah, nobody really I don't care about Jonesy like that I have a pitch and I don't know if this he'll make it but Leon
Starting point is 01:06:08 mmm Leon s Kennedy Sure, why not throw him on there throw him on the short list I would like to put Donkey Kong on this fucking list Yeah, good crazy to me that he's not on it. Love Kirby Yeah, Kirby. I think is a candidate Because Nintendo this is Nintendo's that's the thing that's what Nintendo does and it becomes a little bit Nintendo heavy, and then I think that's why you might maybe want to counter it with a With a Kratos or what have you we toss in a we tossing cloud on here. Yep. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:06:35 I think if you're gonna take any character from any JRPG You know like you could say like hey Joker from persona or whatever, but I think I think it's honestly it's it's cloud It's not chrono from Chrono whatever, but I think I think it's honestly it's it's cloud It's not chrono from Chrono Trigger as I think like that came I think And I that we haven't made a rule about this. Mm-hmm And I think that there's an argument to be made that some of these most iconic video game characters of all time will have to Come from the same franchise sure and I think Bowser Is extremely iconic see I would say if we're gonna do that, we're gonna make the antagonist argument,
Starting point is 01:07:08 I would put Wario over Bowser. What? Because I think the idea of Wario is such a huge part of how gaming characters are created, the idea of the anti-version of a character. And I also just feel like people just know Wario more than they know Bowser. More than Bowser?
Starting point is 01:07:25 I think so. You think if the Mario movie had come out and Wario had been the main antagonist that people would have been like, that's the right choice. I'm gonna have Jack Black voices in me, eh. Well yeah, Jack Black's voice in anybody in the movie you're like, this is the best character in the damn thing. No, when you put it like that,
Starting point is 01:07:41 I mean Bowser is like who people think of, so maybe it would be, but I kind of feel like the iconography of Wario versus Mario is just like so strong, so striking, like the inverse of this guy. Sure. The evil shitty version of him. I don't think Wario is not iconic. I do think Waluigi is more popular than Wario.
Starting point is 01:07:58 I think that- I throw Waluigi in there. I think Peach belongs higher than both of these characters. Yeah, Peach is up there. I think Peach belongs higher than both of these characters. Yeah, Peach is up there. Wario and Waluigi. I also, Link's on there, okay great. I know he's not gonna make it,
Starting point is 01:08:13 but I feel like I just have to mention my guy, Sora. He's not on the list. I thought about Sora, but I think Cloud is more iconic than Sora. I think he's more iconic. But is that also like me being old that is making me think that? Is Sora the better choice?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Something I was reading about online when I was in line at Disneyland over the weekend. Very cool. There's not enough Kingdom Hearts stuff here. I wanna see Kingdom Hearts, I wanna see Sora, I wanna see Goofy and Donald running around fucking weapons and stuff. I want to see that here I want to see you know what to let's get cloud running around here. Let's get Leon running around Why not like if they're?
Starting point is 01:08:56 I want to see it. I was reading that I get and I don't know if the speculation or this is true Disney doesn't really Fuck with Kingdom Hearts like that. Yeah, they don't they don't see it. It's like a it's a very niche property. It's not very Recognizable in the same way that they so that it would be a dud of a attraction At the theme, but I don't think that's true I think but I think they're just thinking of it in a very old corporate I think that's correct. I think if Sora walked onto onto the lot at Disneyland people would lose their shit
Starting point is 01:09:32 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, first of all, he'd be real which is very exciting and then But I do think that Yeah, I think Sora is iconic, but I also think that there was an unfortunate Yeah, I think Sora is iconic, but I also think that there was an unfortunate chunk of time after Kingdom Hearts 2 where the only way you could play Kingdom Hearts games was on PSP. Yeah. And I think that that 20-year cycle aged him out for a lot of iconography. There's a generation of people who were one when Kingdom Hearts II came out and then didn't see another Kingdom Hearts game.
Starting point is 01:10:07 It had to be there. Let me just go down some of the biggest franchises of all time, best-selling video game franchises. This is a list I'm looking at. The ones that have sold over 250 million copies over the course of all the games in their franchise is very short. Mario, obviously, already gonna be well-represented here. Tetris, not really a defining character. course of all the games in their franchise is very short. Mario obviously
Starting point is 01:10:25 already well we're gonna be well represented here. Tetris not really defining character. Pokemon I imagine if we're gonna choose one it would be Pikachu I choose you but I don't know if there's there's any other Pokemon we want to we want to nominate. We should shhh. You can't say that too loud. Call of Duty not really a singular character. Grand Theft Auto. Ronald Reagan. Grand Theft Auto, similar problem. FIFA, similar issue.
Starting point is 01:10:51 And Minecraft, we've already talked about. You step down to franchises sold over 100 million copies. Wii is kind of a cop-out, but you could say like a Wii Sports or a Mii a but I just I don't think any of those really actually Work the Wii Sports trainer Lego same sort of issue. So many of those are borrowed IP as well The sims same sort of issue Assassin's Creed I mean even the Ubisoft anime that we watched Matt for get anime Yeah, did not have like a like they didn't figure out how to actually represent Assassin's Creed. They just invented a character
Starting point is 01:11:23 No, there's one protagonist you can center it on. Final Fantasy, we've talked about. Sonic the Hedgehog, yeah, Sonic's got to be on there, I think. Resident Evil, you know, maybe it is Leon Kennedy. I don't know what the move is there, or does that even need to be represented? But that's also one with a bunch of characters. Legend of Zelda, if it's anyone, it's Link, it's Ganon, it's Zelda. Need for Speed, NBA 2K,k madden NFL Star Wars e football
Starting point is 01:11:49 These are all whatever and then after that you get into you know the the Monster hunters the Tomb Raiders the WWE 2ks of the world now so the listeners that listen to this show yeah and say we don't talk about that many different games Yeah, I want you to rewind that and listen to that again. Because that was a lot of different types of games. So keep your little mouth shut. Keep your gullets full with that for a while. Wait, there are people who complain that we don't talk about games? Don't we all talk about a different game every week?
Starting point is 01:12:13 Not enough, I guess. I think what that is is because we have, look, if you're into like driving games, you know, or like schmups or something, there are a lot of like more niche genres that we just don't touch on all that often Yeah, I think there's also some big games that just like none of us we all this isn't our full-time thing is doing this podcast So sometimes like a major release just all three of us will end up overlooking But yeah, that's that's a that's that's I've talked about I've talked about Gran Turismo in VR. I've talked about Icaruga
Starting point is 01:12:42 We've got schmups and we've got driving games on this podcast. Who is this? Who is saying this shit to me? We can't talk about everything all the time. It would be impossible. But also we should just- We have to talk about sandwiches for 20 minutes. Here's one I wanna throw out,
Starting point is 01:12:59 because I think this is a big franchise and I think there is a very good candidate for being represented in this list. Dragon Quest Slime. Yeah, slime is good. Franchise and I think there is a very good candidate for being represented in this list dragon quest slime Yeah, slime is good You just look at that motherfucker you look at it. I guess so right I know what the fuck that fucking guy Is the fucking dragon quest line could be the poop emoji? It's not the poop emoji. You get me There's like piling it looks different. Oh gee. I'm just saying no absolutely not
Starting point is 01:13:22 He is not a truck with a tip. Hey, I'm just saying I don't think it I'm just saying I think I think slime is maybe one of the most iconic video game characters of all time Who's that fucking guy from Borderlands? I don't want to put a borderland thing on her No, but that one fucking guy everyone's like that fucking guy trap trap trap. Yeah the robot. Yeah, voice by Jack Black. He's gonna be good He's gonna be good. Unfortunately. I'm sorry in the movie Yeah, he's in the movie. Oh, that'll be good What about pit boy? Yeah, I think that's a good. I mean, I love that. I love that character design
Starting point is 01:13:55 That's the yeah, thumbs up fall out. Yeah, I'm following the thing. I love that character design. I love that bit that bit of art The thing is it's like, it's not really a character, it's more just a presence. But you do look at that iconography and like, oh I do know that franchise, you do instantly recognize it. If we're talking silhouette test, I can't think of a more unique silhouette
Starting point is 01:14:16 than a Big Daddy from Bioshock. Sure, that's a unique one. What about Mega Man? Love Mega Man, throw Mega Man in there, let's not overthink it. Mega Man is good. Geralt of Rivia from The Witcher, worth considering.
Starting point is 01:14:30 How about someone from Animal Crossing? I don't know who it would be. I don't know if it would be Isabel, Tom Nook. Isabel's in Mario Kart. As the representative, or the village character. I would almost go Isabel over Tom Nook fucking bullshit You can't romance Isabelle animal crossing I can't in real life because my fiance's name is Isabelle Happy for you, man
Starting point is 01:14:53 What else we got there got a war Kratos? We're talking about metal gear. Probably solid stakes should be on there already What about spider-man? Interesting I feel like you kind of think of a character that's like defined, that's defined within video games though. So for me that's more like a leak of like Diablo from Diablo or Crash Bandicoot. You know, a character who like that's their heritage is this medium. What is the guy from Doom? Doomguy. Doomguy? Doomguy is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Doomguy is good. And also just putting Doomguy on the list is pretty good. I think probably Master Chief takes Doomguy's slot, but it is fun to have doom guy in consideration. Oh, yeah Yeah, no, it's for sure Master Chief over doom guy. Yeah, but doom guy You don't get Master Chief without doom guy. Maybe it's doom guy But I'm trying to think of what else I mean, I feel like there's some tale of being an icon
Starting point is 01:15:46 for having almost zero games come out? Parappa the Rapper. Parappa the Rapper's a good character. And I also think Prince from Katamari Damacy is pretty iconic. Yeah. Just putting them on the long list. Yeah, keep throwing them on there.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Where did you, why did you type in parapsychology? I'm typing on an iPad and It auto filled for me here. I got a fucking proper keyboard. Let me in on that that Google Doc. I can type this shit All right, Matt is updating the sharing progressions How about Tiger Woods from PGA? Okay, oh you what, Tony Hawk. I kind of love Tony Hawk as a nominee. That's really funny. I think it's insane that Tony Hawk's not on the list.
Starting point is 01:16:36 While we're talking the Matt's territory, how about the Prince of Persia? The Prince of Persia, pretty good, but I think he does unfortunately fall into this sort of subcategory of character design where he is just a guy. Yeah, he's a guy. Like he's just kind of like a hot guy. Didn't you mention subcategory? You want to talk about sandwiches? You know what? Why isn't there a video game where you can play as a sandwich? I guess there's I am bread Yeah, is there a game where you're sentient sandwich? I don't know if that's a sandwich with arm and legs is pretty good
Starting point is 01:17:12 I'm sure that's I'm sure probably there's some indie game where that's the case. Yeah, I'm a rapper the rapper um Parappa is not I don't think he actually belongs on the list I don't think he does, but I think we're just making a short list. We're making a bunch of candidates I'd shucking to me that that you can still see a Parappa Image and you're like, oh, I know who that is. That's that guy. Yeah, that guy. I gotta do what I gotta believe Agent 47 is on the Bafta list at number four number three. Look he looks cool and I recognize you know that guy He's just a bald dude in a suit. He's just a bald dude in a suit He's got a fucking barcode on his back of his neck. He's got a barcode on his back of his neck
Starting point is 01:17:51 He and look this is somebody this is coming from somebody who? Mainlined all three of those new hitman games like back to back to back It is insane that he is number three on this list. He's a little bit high. I think that might be one of those things where that franchise is maybe more beloved in the UK. Yeah. Which is where the bulk of the book is. He's number three on the list and Donkey Kong isn't on this list. But also Sackboy, and I love Sackboy. I never played any of the Little Big Planets, but I played the Sack boy platformer that came out for PS5. Uh, and it's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:18:27 It's really, really good. And this is probably one of those games where he's like bigger elsewhere, but I've never once heard anybody mention. The only person I've ever heard mentioned sack boy publicly is Ariana Grande in some interview she was mentioning. She was like, I just got She was mentioning, she was like, I just got a PS5 and somebody was like, oh, what are you playing?
Starting point is 01:18:47 He's like, I can't stop playing Sackboy. Sackboy has one of the most unfortunate names ever given to a character. It sounds like a mean nickname. Yeah. Like somebody who's wearing shorts that are too short. And balls are hanging out. Hey, sack boy!
Starting point is 01:19:05 It was like just some kid hit puberty before his friends so they're making fun of him. Oh no. I think this is a really good. We have a good base so far. I tossed on a few more as we were going. Who is Commander Shepard? From Mass Effect.
Starting point is 01:19:23 No, take him off, I don't even know who that is. My only quibble with this is that I do think it's good. I also threw on Frogger, which I know is not going to make it, but I think like, some really old characters. I thought about Frogger. And a lemming from Lemmings. Cause everybody, wha.
Starting point is 01:19:37 I think of two things when I think of Frogger. I think of one, having the time of my life, two, Seinfeld. Like there's a whole episode of Seinfeld dedicated to Frogger. It's true for a single payoff of a talk about iconic You're just cause stanza they were they were like when there was Seinfeld writers room in like 1997 was like what's a video game? Everyone will know they picked fucking frogger. Yeah, that's what George Costanza I think I think Qbert is visually identifiable and iconic, but I don't think anybody and I'm thinking anybody under the age of like,
Starting point is 01:20:13 I'm gonna say 30 knows who Qbert is. Well, maybe kids who saw Pixels and some, fuck Josh Gad. If I hadn't seen Pixels, Qbert was gonna be one of those things that's just not in my lexicon. I do think a Tetris block should be on the list I don't know if I I mean I think that's funny But I and it is like the biggest like it's like I think the best game ever made is probably Tetris
Starting point is 01:20:33 Yeah, it's just like the only perfect video game perfect video game, but I also I don't like we're talking characters I don't know if there's any chess piece or something It's not like a particular Yeah, and it's also like which one do you pick? Is it L block? Is it the big long boy? Is it the square? Is it the T piece?
Starting point is 01:20:51 It's easily the square. See, this is the thing, I disagree with you. I think it's the shape that only exists in Tetris, which is the weird like lightning bolt type block. That one is good, lightning bolt type block. That one is good. It comes in clutch. The square is obviously, it's easily the worst piece,
Starting point is 01:21:09 actually, if I'm thinking about it. Such fewer applications. But I think, okay, so we're crafting a top 10. Our top three is locked so far. We have Pikachu at number one. I would not say it's locked. We have three that are on the list. Pikachu, Mario, and Sonic in some order
Starting point is 01:21:26 Let's let's just let's just throw out what what other one whether characters have to be on link link for sure okay? I'm tossing the link on here. We'll figure out the order as we go I Do think Donkey Kong has Donkey Kong has to be on the top ten Donkey Kong There's a Nintendo characters. It's on like Donkey Kong exists None of these other video game characters have a phrase. I don't know I just again I think there's maybe a case for like a Wario over a Donkey Kong even a moment
Starting point is 01:22:00 I think I think maybe you know I said Raymond like everybody loves Raymond, but I meant Rayman Calling Scott Ackerman right now that my new character I Can't imagine that like it's hard for me Nick. Yeah To think that you think that Wario is more iconic than Donkey Kong, that's surprising to me in good faith. I think there's some element of, I think, I think recency-wise, I think there's maybe more momentum and more knowledge of Wario.
Starting point is 01:22:37 I also think conceptually, I think the idea of what Wario represents is perhaps more iconic. And I do have an unfortunate data point for exactly this. Yeah. On Saturday Night Live, Elon Musk didn't play Donkey Kong. Look, my personal leaning, I do think Cloud Strife belongs on this list. Cloud's on there. And I also think that I would make a case,
Starting point is 01:23:05 I'm not saying he's gonna make the final cut, but I would put a case for Dragon Quest Slime. I think you just look at that guy and you're like, that is video games. I do think Pyramid Head is on the list. You think he's on the list? I don't, look, as the person who brought up Pyramid Head, I don't think he's on the list.
Starting point is 01:23:22 I just think he's more iconic than, say, Sackboy, Shadowheart, Arthur Morgan, Steve from Minecraft. Okay, maybe he's not top 10, but he's on the list. But here's the thing, we all like God of War. Probably Kratos makes it on the list, right? In this day and age? Isn't Kratos a top 10 video game character? Kratos, to me, is the PlayStation icon right now,
Starting point is 01:23:44 where it used to be Crash Bandicoot it used to be you know Daxter or Jack and Daxter used to be that They want it to be Joel they want it to be Ellie it is Kratos Kratos is the PlayStation's God I think I think also a lot of these characters pop up in fortnight, right? And when the character is in Fortnite style and you can still spot them across a map and say, oh fuck, Kratos is coming up, he's hiding behind a building,
Starting point is 01:24:13 everybody knows who you're fucking talking about and what you're looking for. And even if it's drawn in Fortnite style, you can identify that it's Kratos. And nobody is making Joel in Elden Ring, no one's making Joel in Dragon's Dogma. They're fucking's Kratos. And nobody is making Joel in Elden Ring. No one's making Joel in Dragon's Dogma. They're fucking making Kratos. They wanna be Kratos in a different game.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Let's put this motherfucker around here. Pac-Man goes on somewhere, right? Yeah. I mean, is there another character of that era if we're talking about like the pre-8-bit era of arcade games? Is there another character that stands out as much? Well, this is Pac-Man, certainly.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Pac-Man's gotta, I mean. It's just Pac- much? Well, this is Pac-Man, certainly. Pac-Man's got a, I mean. It's just Pac-Man, right? It's Pac-Man. Yeah. It's not like a character from like Galaga or Tempest or Defender or something. The bartender from. Tapper.
Starting point is 01:24:53 From Tapper. Yeah, Peter Pepper from Burger Time. Yeah. It's none of them. It's Pac-Man. It's Pac-Man. Okay, um. I wish that guy was real.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Pac-Man? Well, yeah, but also the guy from. Tapper? From Tapper. You wish he was real? What does that mean? I just love him, I think. You, what?
Starting point is 01:25:07 I think he's funny. He is funny. Funny? I think all the characters in that game are funny. Isn't he just like make a drink and slide it down the- Yeah, but they want the drink so bad, and then if you spill it, they get so mad. It's a really funny game.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Okay. I wonder if he has a canonical name. An unnamed bartender, yeah. He is funny. He looks really funny. He's funny. He's in Wreck-It Ralph too, passes the Wreck-It Ralph quest. That's right.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Wreck-It Ralph test. Yeah. I think on our list has to go Master Chief. Yeah, I think Master Chief belongs in the top 10. I honestly do, and I have played a few Halo games. I'm not an FPS guy, but the character is really well known. I feel 0% about Halo, but I think Master Chief is extremely iconic.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Yeah. Well, we have nine, but obviously this is not locked. To annoy the listener, I wanna celebrate myself for a second and say that I've been extremely judicious with this list. I am not forcing my heroes, Pyramid Head and Chun-Li, down people's throats. No, I'm furious at you, but you are doing a good job.
Starting point is 01:26:13 I kinda wanna throw Chun-Li on there, so. What? I do think either Chun-Li, Chun-Li should go on the list. Dog from the window. Of the Resident Evil things that's very nice but also it's insane that the merchant didn't say himself because the merchant I think is... I know what people come for they come from window dog. I do
Starting point is 01:26:39 think that um gosh I'm looking at this list and I'm like... That's why I'm like I'm here you guys can't get window dog no we can't get window dog I'm gonna be over in the corner uh Donkey Kong not being on the list it's crazy even there I was like I would take if I didn't take another Nintendo character I take Samus over Donkey Kong over Donkey Kong? I would take Samus well we Kong. Over Donkey Kong? I think so. I would take Samus, well. We've also, you know, we talked about Mega Man, but we didn't talk about like Simon Belmont
Starting point is 01:27:09 from Castlevania, like that's a big character. I think that if you- Probably been usurped at this point, but I think worth acknowledging. Yeah. I think that like Donkey Kong Country was iconic for a generation. I think Donkey Kong is in the Mario movie.
Starting point is 01:27:23 We're not even talking about- I'll add him. He's also, I think, in Wreck-It Ralph. Donkey Kong is in the Mario movie. We're not even talking about actually- He's also, I think, in Wreck-It Ralph. One of the more iconic Mario characters. Yoshi. Yoshi's not even on the fucking list. I do like Yoshi, but yeah, come on. Are we putting Yoshi in a top 10 of video game characters?
Starting point is 01:27:39 Are we gonna have five fucking- It's not, again, it's- Honestly, they should all be mario characters. It's hard, it's hard not to- But these aren't like the best characters of all time, it's the most iconic. I keep saying it. I should shut up. I do think Dragon Quest Slime is iconic.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Yup. Um. I don't think he's number seven. I don't think he's more iconic than Tony Hawk. I don't think he's number seven iconic. I'm not this is not a dude I think this is ranked. I'm just writing these all down Well, we'll figure out the ordering Because we've been so angry about her placement, okay, he did put Tony Hawk that's pretty funny
Starting point is 01:28:21 Video game character. I think he is if he is then spider-Man is more of a video game character than Tony Hawk. I think Tony Hawk has more games than Spider-Man. I'm sure he is, but Spider-Man is so a video game that he's in the Spider-Man movie as a reference. Yeah, that's true. We don't have to put Tony Hawk in it. Can I say something? What?
Starting point is 01:28:44 What do you want to say first off? I know none of us are the biggest? Witcher heads, you know, I Messed around with Witcher 3 but you know Geralt of Rivia is like a very Well-known character that I think probably has more of a case than some of the other characters that were in the top 20 So I think he's at least weighs a little bit of consideration. But the other thing I'm going to say is, as much as we wanted to shit on it earlier, Lara Croft might just belong in the top 10. She does belong on the list.
Starting point is 01:29:16 So maybe that part of this list is, again, it goes back to a thing I was saying earlier. It's like, I think it might just be a lot of reordering. Like, it's like, you kind of look at what they've got here. Maybe Agent 47 goes, maybe Sackboy goes, but Shadowheart goes. Astarion goes. Well, we're making the top 10 here, not top 20.
Starting point is 01:29:32 So we're looking 10 and below. I think the cuts are Shadowheart, Sackboy, and Agent 47. Doesn't every other character just kind of stay? Yeah, I think. And you just sort of shuffle the order? I would argue. I do agree. Yes, I could I could hear an argument for cutting Pac-Man I don't know if I would be the one to start it, but I do think that Pac-Man a
Starting point is 01:29:58 lot of the Pac-Man love is Based on good faith of early Pac-Man. There are not a lot of strong iterations of pac-man No, most of the games fucking suck. Yes the thing most of the games are fucking dog shit You know the games are horrible yes, but the character is so identifiable, and I also think if we're talking about video games overall Yeah, he represents an era of video games the console arcade era of video like our moms know who pac-man right exactly everyone knows who fucking pac-man is yeah Our children wouldn't but yeah, that's that's sort of what I was getting at like I think yeah, yeah wrong room, I think I think uh
Starting point is 01:30:42 Kids today don't fuck with pac-Man the way we did as kids. For sure. No, no, no, no, no. They definitely don't. But... Because also arcades are just not really the same. Like they don't really have them like that. But children are not exclusively like what makes iconography. No. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:31:00 You know, like... Because Steve would be number one. Do kids care about Minecraft now? Kids, I mean they're making a Minecraft movie Jack Black also playing Steve gonna be very funny I think I honestly think is that true. Yeah, it's gonna rock like that's really funny I honestly doing vo right I do think kids have a guy think the younger generation is more into roblox than yeah fortnight I think that yeah, but I'm sorry robot. I said Roblox and Fortnite, I meant Roblox and Minecraft. But I think kids still play fucking Minecraft. It's a huge game.
Starting point is 01:31:29 It's the biggest selling game of all time. Who was that pig from the Minecraft thing that we watched? From the Minecraft, we played it. With the Minecraft story mode, yes, we did. That was an old episode. Ay, ay, ay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I own it on Switch. Yeah, no, I. That was Telltale, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right I own it on switch. Yeah, no I was a telltale
Starting point is 01:31:48 Yeah, that was those towards the end of the telltale Experiment so how about this? I know we took Tony Hawk off did we take and we're are we losing? What do we lose there in the seventh spot? I don't even remember um I moved I moved Dragon Quest slime out for now, okay Cuz I do think that Solid Snake is on the list you think solid snake is in the top ten I kind of think so maybe that's just me being I love him, but I love him too Yeah, he's in Smash in fortnight. He's in fortnight. Those are the two biggest games like I
Starting point is 01:32:22 Don't know how big smash is but smash is like a big game It's a big game, but if we're talking about like hey This is that the with the they want to figure out they want to take the biggest characters from other games Yeah, put them all together. That is what Smash Brothers is so maybe the Smash Brothers test is an important thing. Yeah And then you know that's I'm sort of backdooring my way into getting Sora back on the board He was the last he's canonically the last smash ultimate character. He's the final guy Yeah, he is but he's not on he's not on the list So I was Sephiroth. Oh fuck we forgot about Sephiroth. Sephiroth. I would almost put in above cloud. Yeah
Starting point is 01:33:03 I've been thinking about Sephiroth for like the last five minutes. And it paralyzed me. Yeah, because obviously Cloud is the person you play as, but Sephiroth is the reason you're playing the game. I'm looking through third party characters that are in the Smash Brothers franchise, Smash Brothers Ultimate.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Pac-Man, unfortunately, on the list. Pac-Man is absolutely on there. Yeah. And he belongs on there. Yeah. No, he's a, he, and he belongs on there. Yeah. A snake, as was mentioned. In fact, that was one, I think maybe the first third party,
Starting point is 01:33:33 I remember that reveal when they were doing, was it Brawl? Yeah. Where he was originally in? Amazing trailer. Mega Man. Mega Man is on there, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Some of these characters are from Fire Emblem, which is First Party. Roy. Shulk is on there. Shulk is from Xenosog. I wish the film that had was in Smash. I agree. I do too. The representative they took from the Street Fighter franchise were Ken and Ryu. So maybe Ken and Ryu is a unit if that's not a cop out.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Bayonetta is on there. I don't think Bayonetta makes the list. Simon Belmont is on there. Richter Belmont also on there. I don't think anybody cares about the Belmonts. Joker from Persona. Hero from Dragon Quest. It is a case for Hero, but I think Slime is more iconic.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Slime is more iconic. Banjo-Kazooie. Terry and Kazuya. I think those is more iconic Banjo Kazooie Terry and Kazuya from I think those are both from SNK fighting games. There's kazoo is from from Tekken I'm sorry I'm less familiar fighting games Terry's from from SNK if this list was and Sephiroth and Minecraft Steve and Alex if this list was Gosh, I don't even know how long ago
Starting point is 01:34:43 Because I do think obviously people know who crash Bandicoot is, and he has had staying power, he's had some bad games with him. Can't just fucking Crash Bandicoot on this list? Can we take one of our characters from Crash Bandicoot? No. Are you making the case against it? Wait, who are you pointing at? I didn't say anything!
Starting point is 01:35:00 I thought Matt was saying that you wanted to put Crash Bandicoot on there. He's number 15 on the Bafta list. Does he make the top 10? I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. There hasn't been a Crash game in forever. There was just the fourth one, but it was like a redo. Because there's been a fourth Crash game. There was a Crash game recently? There was Crash, it's about time. Yeah, Crash 4, about time.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Uh, but the, um, but I guess, yeah, he doesn't have the same kind of like, There was a crash game. There was crash. It's about time. Yeah But the But I guess yeah, he doesn't have the same kind of like but you know what he is you see him You know what he is, but I'm still I'm still sort of stewing on whether or not Sephiroth is more iconic than cloud. Yeah, I mean certainly His music is the most iconic music, possibly in all of games, because if you're playing a different game, any game,
Starting point is 01:35:57 and that song started playing, you would be like, oh no, it's Sephiroth. He's here? Yeah, sure. Yeah, I mean, it happens in Kingdom Hearts 2. You're like, oh no. Okay, so hold on a second. Let me take Cloud out of here because I just want to make sure we're starting with the
Starting point is 01:36:16 same baseline. We're saying that we're cutting Agent 47 from Hitman, Sackboy from the Little Big Planet series, and Shadowheart from Baldur's Gate 3. Beyond that, the rest of the list, Lara Croft, Mario, Sonic, Pac-Man, Link, Master Chief Kratos, after all this talk, we're still saying that those seven belong in the top 10 in some order.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Are we saying that? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. They unfortunately didn't, that's correct. Yeah, and I think it goes back to the original thing I was saying. It's like this is not a horrible list. It's just kind of poorly ordered Yeah, I think what's most interesting about the list though is numbers 10 through 20, and I wish we were doing that
Starting point is 01:36:54 Yeah, well, I mean we could but we're good. We've already at the fucking 90 minute I have some new thoughts about bread none of us have eaten I have some new thoughts about bread none of us have eaten If we're adding Pikachu to this list that gives us two slots So now we got two slots for all of these different characters We've talked about is one of them cloud is one of them Donkey Kong is one of the pyramid head is one the Dragon Quest Slimes when Chun Li pyramid head is not in the top ten of all iconic video Unfortunately, not I do think cloud is so Cloud is one and that gives us one more slot. I mean if we say Cloud is that Cloud belongs in there and maybe he does.
Starting point is 01:37:31 I would maybe argue that Dragon Quest Slime maybe takes the Cloud slot but you know I could see being overruled here especially when we're talking worldwide. I think I get what you're getting at. Slime is the Pikachu of Dragon Quest. And you fucking see that guy. He's a pillow He's a controller. Yes, I think I think slime is the Pikachu of Dragon Quest and cloud strife is final fantasy. I Don't know the French is is so big. I know but he's like the guy like he's like he's
Starting point is 01:38:02 Cloud is the guy yeah, but he's the guy slime... Cloud is the guy. Yeah, but he's the guy. Slime is in every Dragon Quest. If you don't know, here's the problem. If you don't know anything about Final Fantasy games and you see Cloud, you're like, he's a video game guy. If you don't know anything about Dragon Quest games and you see Slime, you might think he's a cartoon. Okay, I'll put Cloud Strife in there under a light protest. That gives us one more slot and then we just gotta figure out the order.
Starting point is 01:38:28 They just punched his iPad. Number ten then, so we have... Why can't Dragon Quest Slime be ten? I think then we're maybe a little JRPG heavy there and we're also like, it's like we're looking at Western games and the Western canon, what do we have now? We have Master Chief Lara Croft in Kratos. That feels like a little bit, you know, a dismissive of what has actually become the dominant, you know, the dominant part of the market now.
Starting point is 01:38:54 But maybe the Western games aren't like as obsessed with making iconic characters as they are making game experiences. Like to what we said earlier, Grand Theft Auto, I'm fucking buying the next one, even though I've never fucking played my way through the entire Grand Theft Auto game, except maybe four, I think, maybe, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Nico Bellic on the list? Yeah. Cousin! I think this tenth spot Should be either Chun Li Samus Or Donkey Kong
Starting point is 01:39:38 Chun Li in there honestly it feels like that's like a genre that's not really represented Yeah, cuz it's either Chun LiLi or like Canon Ryu as a pair. No, let's throw in Chun-Li. Chun-Li is more interesting. Okay, so how do we order this thing? Is Pikachu number one? I mean, because that was completely omitted from the Bafta list,
Starting point is 01:39:54 but maybe Pikachu belongs there. Minecraft Steve not on our list. No. But that's okay. I think we can live with that. It's our list. Is Pikachu number one or is Mario number one? It's one of the two of them, right?
Starting point is 01:40:06 There's no case for anyone else. No, I do think, I... I think the potency of Pikachu is crazy. I know, I guess it feels a little blasphemous to think because I love Pikachu and I love Pokemon so much. My heart is saying Mario is number one for some reason, but the data makes sense for Pikachu to be number one. I think it's Mario.
Starting point is 01:40:27 You think it's Mario? I think the parents test, name of video game character, Mario. They're gonna go Mario, because if they see, back to the slime test, they're gonna see Mario, they're gonna know he's from a video game, they see Pikachu,
Starting point is 01:40:40 they're gonna say he's from a cartoon. Yeah, possibly. All right, Mario's first, Pikachu's second, Sonic is Sonic three is that now what comes next is the thing is like that that becomes a Now now we're in we're kind of in the weeds here. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say something that I that hurts my stomach I think it's Master Chief. Oh, they're that motherfucker in there Wow Master Chief number four I think Master Chief is above Link. Yeah, Link has an iconic look, but he has a few too many.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Can I pitch something real quick? Yeah. I think Pac-Man is number 10. I think he just fills out this list as kind of a nod to like, yeah, history. Yeah, I like that. I think that's where he belongs. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 01:41:22 I think that's good. Great. I think I would where he belongs. Yeah, I think that's good. Great. I think I would like to put, I think Kratos of what we have left, I honestly think Kratos is 10 and Pac-Man's number nine. I think Kratos is just, I think you're maybe underrating him at this point, but I think that's fair.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Because I think, yeah, he's like a video game guy, but I think he's less recognizable than Pac-Man. All right, let's see what that looks like. Kratos, 10, Pac-Man, nine. I think Laura Croft and Chun-Li swap places. You think Link stays at five? I think so. Laura Croft at six.
Starting point is 01:41:57 And then Chun-Li at seven. Chun-Li at seven. And I think actually, now that I'm looking at that, Kratos is above Chun-Li that Kratos is above Chun Li. Kratos is above, do you think Kratos goes seven? Yeah I do. Because Matt had him ten. But then where does Cloud go?
Starting point is 01:42:11 Because I do think Cloud is maybe a seven contender. I would put Cloud over Pac-Man for sure and I probably would put Cloud over, I don't know if I put Cloud over Chun Li actually. Maybe Cloud is number nine. I would go six, Lara Croft, Cloud, Cloud seven, Kratos eight, Chun-Li nine, Pac-Man 10, I think. I'm lost. All right, so you wanna just take Cloud from slot nine
Starting point is 01:42:41 and put him at slot seven and bump everyone else down? Yes. Okay, Cloudstripe seven, Kratos Chun-Li eight? Yes. And Kratos nine? Yeah. Is that correct?
Starting point is 01:42:55 I think so, yes. Or did I flip something? I think you flipped something, but I'm not sure. This would be Chun-Li here and then Kratos above, right? That's how that would be. Yeah. All right. Two more things.
Starting point is 01:43:06 One, late case for a Kim Kitsuragi from Disco Elysium, just because we love that game. He's not the choice, but I just wanna reference him again. But also I feel like Rachelle should weigh in. Rachelle, where would you put Mary-Kate and Ashley from License to Drive? One.
Starting point is 01:43:21 This is, I gotta say. Yeah. That looks right. This is really fun. It looks right. Working our way back, we're working our way from number 10. Number 10, Pac-Man, number nine, Chun-Li, number eight, Kratos, number seven, Cloud Strife,
Starting point is 01:43:38 number six, Lara Croft, and Cloud Strife is such an iconic design. Cloud Strife, number six, Lara Croft, number five, Link, number four, Master Chief, number three, Sonic, number two, Croft number five link number four Master Chief number three Sonic number two Pikachu number one Mario Look, it's a mainstream ass list, but that's the fucking exercise Yeah, I think this is a pretty good list and I think the thing about Mario being number one Is that also Donkey Kong is number one too with Mario like everybody that comes with Mario is part of it, too That's a cop-out
Starting point is 01:44:02 Comes with Mario is part of it too. That's a cop-out Pac-Man Chun Li Kratos Cloud Strife Lara Croft link Master Chief Sonic Pikachu and number one Mario That's our determination collectively in real time of the iconic video game characters I wouldn't be surprised if later this week when this episode drops. We find out that Bafta shutting their doors Shuttering because we fucking own them so hard. We're officially changing on him to botha botha deez nuts He's been sitting on that for two hours All right hey any other thoughts on this I think this is a good I think it's been sitting on that for two hours Alright hey any other thoughts on this. I think this is a good list. I think This made us all feel insane. Yeah, that's the thing it's it's it's tough to do these But also I think the thing you land on it's funny that we got we got into it pretty late next says
Starting point is 01:44:59 It's like it's the final slots that are tough. Yeah, the first few slots are always easy. They're pretty they're obvious You know it's like making a list of best basketball players of all time. It's awesome The final slots that are tough. The first few slots are always easy. They're obvious. It's like making a list of best basketball players of all time. It's like, okay, Michael Jordan, Karim Abdul-Jabbar, LeBron James, the first few are easy. It's eight, nine, and 10 that get tricky. Yeah, it's also just extremely funny
Starting point is 01:45:18 that we did hit on this, but the list, not that different. No, it's not that different. The reordering is good, though. Not super interesting. But what are you gonna do? I think people were, I hope the listeners found the exercise fun. Cause there was a sort of like, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:45:36 there was like a newsroom energy to this. I think there was a moment where Nick got really angry. I think it was when we started recording the podcast. Hey, I got a segment here. It's our video game version of Would You Rather. It's Would You Blathers. I love that. That's good.
Starting point is 01:46:06 And I also, I have a few listener submissions from the Discord, which I am going to toss in to this list. Ranch, feel free to play along with these. Yeah. If I could go back in time and rename our Discord, it would be Discord Elysium. That's really good. It's not too late.
Starting point is 01:46:22 That's really good. But that also might already be used for like the official Zaoum a discord or something. Yeah, I shouldn't be given that nobody there is representative of that fucking game And purged from their own company from their own IP. All right, would you blathers? Have your memory wiped but your personality stay intact like shadow heart in Baldur's Gate 3 or Have your heart replaced with an infernal engine like carlac in Baldur's Gate 3 So my personality has to stay the same What's an infernal engine? Infernal engine is a mechanical device. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:47:04 You bastard! It's a mechanical device that is designed in the hells that is burning very hot and makes it so Karlak cannot physically touch anybody. And it also is like a ticking time bomb with their neuron chest. She got like cranked kind of. Yeah, it's kind of a crank situation. So it's the question of like, would I rather not ever touch anybody ever again or be me but have no idea why I'm so great?
Starting point is 01:47:34 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I guess, hmm. I guess I would have to pick, get my memories wiped, keep my personality because at least I'm still me yep I am going with a padak on that one ranch same same. I'm going in fernal engine
Starting point is 01:47:55 Yeah, of course Well cuz I also like I want my memories owner remember shit. I don't want my memories. I guess that's how you and I are different I don't wanna remember shit. I don't want all my memories to go. I guess that's how you and I are different. Hahaha. You just gotta be confused all the time. Yeah, I guess, well, look, that's why it's a good question, because there's no upside.
Starting point is 01:48:14 But then also, like, I get the infernal engine, like someone goes in for a hug and I'm like, infernal engine, sorry. Yeah. Could you maybe put a marshmallow to your chest and get that nice and crispy? That feels like an upside. Yeah. All right next up Would you blathers have all your money scatter when you're injured like Sonic's rings or Hear the sonic drowning music anytime you're underwater
Starting point is 01:48:39 Sonic drowning music anytime. I'm underwater is already present Drowning music anytime I'm underwater is already present You'd be more annoying to have my money go all over the place because like I also don't carry cash So is that like coming out of some sort of like no it's like all your like everything for your bank account all your Cryptocurrency whatever the fuck you got that's a straight shot to identity theft no Thanks, I the drowning music is meant to be scary But it is helpful. So the fact that I know that I'm getting closer to drowning means that I'm potentially getting myself out
Starting point is 01:49:10 of not drowning. I'm picking the drowning music for sure. Drowning music. What do you think, Rachelle? Same. Yeah. I think that one's probably pretty straightforward. Can we put the drowning music in here too?
Starting point is 01:49:21 A little bit of that. All right, here's a listener submission from P Fafulus, Luigi main in the discord. Would you blathers have constant pop-ups tutorial style telling you about mundane information you've seen a thousand times or Never be able to keep pace with anybody you're walking with like an escort mission Like so you're the escort yeah It's like the kind of thing of just like an NPC is walking a different pace It's like you're your analog stick you can't get an exact same pace as them I think we've talked about this before not exactly this I'm always adjusting my walk speed
Starting point is 01:50:09 with whoever I'm walking with, because I'm just trying to get there. But sometimes I'll be walking with my fiance and she'll want to mosey, kind of want to look at something over here, want to look at something over there. And I'm like, I'm just trying to walk. I'm often told, slow down.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Oh, interesting. So I guess I'm just really fast. But... But that's also the video game problem. It's like your run speed is so much faster than this NPC and then you're trying to walk with them and it's not the exact same thing. So I live this.
Starting point is 01:50:36 So I'm gonna pick the other one. Wow. Which remind me what that was. Pop-ups? Oh yeah, you're having constant pop-ups. This is very solo leveling. So this is why... Except you're having constant pop-ups. This is very solo leveling. So this is why. Except you're getting mundane information.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Sometimes, I don't think a reminder is bad. Sometimes if I had a visual pop-up, you're dehydrated, drink some water, I would like that. But what if, but that's, I don't think of that as mundane. Yeah, not yet. I think it would be like every time you go to a door, there's a pop-up that says use hand to open door right yeah
Starting point is 01:51:07 You know sometimes I might need that reminder like You get out of bed. Don't have your coffee before you leave the house. You might need a door open reminder I feel like I feel like the walking thing is something I already experienced so again. I'm gonna go with the walking thing Rochelle How about you Nick the poppets will be so fucking annoying Yeah, I think I just deal with just like you know what I've got a walk. I've got a walk at a different cadence than everyone Yeah, yeah All right here's the next one. Would you blathers be a first-gen robot master from Mega Man with a broad power like Ice Man or Elec Man,
Starting point is 01:51:51 or be a late-gen robot master with a hyper-specific power like Pump Man or Clown Man? Oh, god! I don't like... I don't think I like the newer ones the newer ones kind of seem bad to me Clownman yeah way I think when you exhaust kind of like cut man and fireman and wood man and airman You can use the big one the big elements first the more core ones first you have to get more specific cut I think I would rather be a straightforward original gen Mega Man power.
Starting point is 01:52:29 But you're maybe a little cruder. You're maybe more like a PS1 controller than a PS5 DualSense, you know? So that's another thing to consider. Would you rather be specifically a clown or broadly an ice? Yeah. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:52:43 I guess, I mean, and I liked Mega Man 11 pretty pretty good actually yeah you know what maybe maybe I don't I guess I wouldn't mind being clown man I'll pick I'll go I changed my answer I'm going later someone say you already clown already are you're a clown man Nick see me in the parking lot. It's going down. Which also is a cage, so you guys are set. Yeah, both of us just crying in there. I would go broad power, because I think you'd be more likely to achieve or to get something that you could use.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Sure. Whereas like, I don't know how often I can use clown for anything. Yeah, no, that's fair. Ranch, what do you think? I think specific power. You like one of the more recent ones. Yeah, cuz I feel more You have like a singular focus That's actually you know in the current economy specialization is good. Here's here's going for I'm gonna read the roster of robot masters from Mega Man 9 on concrete man tornado man splash woman plug man This is good. Here's going for... I'm going to read the roster of Robot Masters from Mega Man 9 on. Concrete Man, Tornado Man, Splash Woman, Plug Man, Jewel Man, Hornet Man, Magma Man, Galaxy Man, Blade Man, Pump Man, Commando Man, Chill Man, Sheep Man, Strike Man, Nitro Man, Solar Man, Block Man, Fuse Man,
Starting point is 01:54:06 Blast Man, Acid Man, Tundra Man, Torch Man, Impact Man, and Bounce Man. I think with that list I'm like, I'm also going specific because I like how like wild you can get with these. Bounce Man is pretty good. Bounce Man is pretty good. I like to jump. Yeah. Jumping is great. Like I like to jump yeah jumping is great
Starting point is 01:54:25 Like I could just be fudge man and dr. Wiley's like greenlit put him in the field a little stage for him fudge man good to go everywhere Gonna be sticky and slippery yeah, it'll be a hoot all right next up would you blathers be kidnapped by a death cult like the president's daughter Ashley Graham in Resident Evil 4 or be kidnapped by ninjas like President Ronnie and bad dudes? Kidnapped by ninjas, kidnapped by death cult. I mean, I'll go first. I'd rather take the death cult because I don't know the agenda of the ninjas. I don't know what they're going to do.
Starting point is 01:55:04 I don't know how to negotiate with these guys. What do they want? I don't know how to deal with them. Yeah Look, they could kill me at any second. Yeah, the death cult, you know, there gets me some drawn-out thing We're gonna have some ritual. They're gonna put La Plaga into me like fucking whatever they don't run or anything. Yeah, I Think I would choose ninjas because I don't run or anything. Yeah, I think I would choose ninjas because I don't foresee Torture mmm sure I think a death cults more likely to torture you Yeah, ninjas are more likely to just like I don't know behead you or poison you and I Does this seem kind of crazy death cult seems like it stinks?
Starting point is 01:55:43 Like it smells it would definitely smell bad doesn't seem like it's like a compound smells that bad no Yeah, probably like a genetic keeping you keep me a nice and safe even but also you won't see the death coming death cult It's in the name. You know they're gonna kill you yeah ninjas Ninjas might be ransoming you yeah, whereas death cult definitely wants to death you yeah, yeah, that's true ninjas true ninjas could have like political maneuvering that they need I'm watching Shogun Or I think I would argue that there was a ninja in one of the episodes. Yeah, so I you know, maybe I haven't seen I haven't seen Shogun yet. Is it good? It's fucking great. It's great. Did you see blue-eyed samurai? No, blue-eyed samurai rocks Yeah, it's animated. It gotta see it, I gotta see it. It looks fantastic.
Starting point is 01:56:26 I gotta watch both. Ranch Death Cold or Ninjas? Ninjas, cause I feel like I could talk myself out of it. You're wearing your little costume, you don't have to be doing this. I think I'm gonna pick Ninjas too, because if I'm gonna get killed, I'd rather not know how.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Like they'll surprise me and that's fine. Dagger in the eye. Yeah. And hey, if they're ninjas, they might be like Naruto ninjas also. Like it could be like a group of specialty powered kids. Final one. Would you blathers have there exist an evil version
Starting point is 01:57:01 of yourself like Waluigi or have there exist a goo version of yourself like Gooigi? Hmm, I already know Nick's gonna say goo. Evil you or goo you? Oh, Nick's saying- Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna say goo. I'll just say goo. Nick's saying goo for sure. Someone argue I'm already the goo version of myself.
Starting point is 01:57:18 I'm always slipping through bars and whatnot. You know what would be like really cruel All of a sudden, you're like, oh, I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version.
Starting point is 01:57:30 I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version.
Starting point is 01:57:37 I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version.
Starting point is 01:57:44 I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. I'm the evil version. Yeah. Look at this person doing charity work. Like in The Simpsons when... Oh, right. That is the end of a Treehouse of Horror. There's a Treehouse of Horror where they find out that they're keeping an evil twin of Bart in the attic, but at birth they were switched. And actually, Bart is the evil twin. Makes sense. He's a bad boy.
Starting point is 01:57:59 Really, really funny. I was saying he had my shorts and whatnot. The evil twin's name, Hugo. Yeah. Hugo's a good name. A really good joke, and that with dr. Hibbert was I bet you've never even seen your own reflection And he holds up an empty frame, and then Hugo looks at it, and he just punches
Starting point is 01:58:16 You're laughing at a doctor punching a child in the face That's so fucking good This is neither here nor there nobody should ever complain that the Simpsons is quote-unquote bad so much good There's so much they have so much good to go off of yeah to work off of I'm gonna say swing now too What the current episode is this what I've been hearing I've been hearing it's the Simpsons are back Yeah, what's this is it back 30 more years? I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say gooey G cuz I already have a twin brother. So right. I'm like miss me with that
Starting point is 01:58:52 Because then there would be two of us. Yeah, I think that's how it works Yeah, they're being evil one of him too. And let me tell you something. That would be a lot of fun Then you're like double cherry Mario. Hmm double cherries, huh? huh? Yeah. You get a bunch of clones to run around. Well, here's the thing. It's all puzzles. His twin would be the nice one. Matt. He's not here to defend himself.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Heather, evil version, goo version. I would take the evil version and pray that it was not the good version. Rachelle, evil version, goo version. Evil. Yeah. Get a Rochelle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:30 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, we'll do more Wood Your Blathers in the future and if anyone wants to chime in, I think the question block channel of the discourse is the place to submit those.
Starting point is 01:59:42 I'll parse some of those and compile them for future ones thanks to everyone who sent them in and hey that's this week's get played our producers Rachelle Chen ranch yard underscore underscore sard on social media our music is by Ben Prunty Ben Prunty music calm our artists by Duck Brigade design Duck Brigade calm and check out our patreon patreon.com slash get played we can find our entire pre ahead come back catalog plus adfree main feed episodes and our patreon exclusive show get animated Matt what's going on this week? We're finishing up solo leveling so get in there catch up See what we got going on and soon. We'll be telling you. We'll be watching next and boy. Oh boy solo leveling
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