Get Played - Handheld Gaming

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

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doesn't it have wheels why are you raw dragging this along the ground on what appears to be a planed wooden surface. No, yeah, now that you're saying it, wheels would have been probably a pretty good idea. I probably could have put like- Two. I was thinking two, yeah. Where is this plugged in?

Is this plugged in at your home? Yeah, so it's, the cord is just really, really long. It has to stay plugged in, otherwise it don't work, right? But the cool thing about it is, all these other devices have Wi-Fi on it. This has Wi-Fi on it too. What? How?

I have a router taped to it. And it's plugged into a- Matt, I have a distinct memory of you telling me when you went on your honeymoon, also I'm bringing my favorite handheld on. Did you bring this? How much does this weigh? Did you bring this on your honeymoon. Also, I'm bringing my favorite handheld on. Did you bring this? How much does this weigh? Did you bring this on your honeymoon?

Well, I did bring it, yes. My wife was very mad. And it was very tough to bring because I wasn't really sure that the cord would be long enough. So you left it plugged in here. I just said that if I unplug it, it don't work, Heather. Matt.

They let me have the cord dangle from the sky. They let you. I had to ask. All right. I like slid the pilot a note. First off, I'm surprised you weren't shot on sight when you did that. All the note said was you better let me leave this thing fucking plugged in or I'm gonna scream. Yeah, I'm at any moment now the TSA is going to come here to our record. It wasn't a threat. They're gonna execute you, Ranch, and then me.

It wasn't a threat. I also don't think they're allowed to do that. Yes they are. And the only reason I'm going third is cause I'm gonna shout let me watch. It wasn't a big deal, it was fine. It made it all the way over there. I was, I had to buy so much cord.

I'm sure you did a lot of cord that Everything you've described about this is also confusing to me because PlayStation games are available on multiple handhelds now I don't have that Heather. I said I don't have that I have this I wish the mat station 2000 you named it? People gotta know it's mine and can't steal my idea. Better not steal my idea. Nobody is stealing this idea and nobody is actually stealing this device.

Matt. You'll have to kill me first. Matt, no, don't say that again. Well, I'm glad you brought this because I also brought my favorite handheld and it is a stark contrast to yours Well, you like to see it. Yeah, show it to me great Heather wait, you're pulling it you're pulling your tooth out. I

Wanted portability so I got it. I buy shrunk a Nintendo down into my tooth. Hang on you have a shrinking machine yes but it only works once I was gonna see if you can shrink my thing would be a little easier to hold we game and watch and game and gear and game and boy oh boy our way through this history of handheld games, this week on Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between.

It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Matt Apodaca. Hello everyone. Hello everyone, and welcome back to the premier video game podcast. We are, we are one host short. Unless you're counting the Resident Evil merchant of a full basket of eggs here. I would say. It usual. We're one host short because I think two of you are tall.

And I'm the little one. You think I'm tall? I think you're taller than me. I have, if that's true. I have never noticed it Maybe I'm just is it that I'm scared of you No, I would say if I had to guess and I'd never I know Nick is tall Nick sticks like six one six two six nine Get it. Hey, I did it. I did the thing Wait is that does he do that? No, I was doing that. Oh you were doing like I was laughing so hard that I couldn't even breathe okay, great um

I'm slight. I'm little I'm too little I've literally if that's if it's true that you are shorter than me I've I've never noticed and if I had to guess I would say you're probably like an inch and a half Much more oh yeah, yeah, that's not much. I thought that was a lot. I don't know what point you were making But anyway Nick's not here He's at jury duty. I think we can say that he's a jury duty. Yeah, he's a civic duty.

Yep. And he'll be back next week unless they decide, hey, we actually should keep this guy and put him on trial. Hey, now that he's here, we got him. Yeah, we got him, motherfuckers. We were joking that, you know, maybe he's on some kind of crazy show. But he said that James Marsden's not there. Yeah. That'd be such a... It'd be so funny if that happened to Nick.

Because he would hate it. He would hate it so much. Also, the thing about Jury Duty, and if you haven't watched the show, it's incredible. It's an incredible show that didn't have a gigantic audience, and it was one of the most heartwarming and inspiring things I've ever seen made by human beings. It's possibly, and I feel like it's tough working in comedy and adjacent to comedy

to say something like this, because I feel like a lot of comedy people are like, you know, a little bit jaded when it comes to other comedies and stuff. I think it's possibly one of the greatest shows ever made. It's so good. It's an astonishment. Yeah, I can't believe that it worked.

Like it premiered on Free V, right? Yes. So Free V, which was just announced to be killed today on Amazon. Yes. Smart move. So this is a subset, a commercial-based subset of Amazon Prime.

So it's not where you're going to watch a television show. And this show is so good. Think about how good this show has to be that it ended up nominated for Emmys. Yes, on a platform nobody has or knows about really. It's as if a 3DS- like video clip was nominated for an Oscar. Like. It's so fucking good.

I like to see it. It's so fucking good. That reminds me of one time when I went to a museum and they had, part of the museum was dedicated to 3D images and a 3DS was in the museum as part of it. Wow. And I was like, I have to go to the museum was dedicated to 3D images, and a 3DS was in the museum as part of it. And I was like, I have this. And I was like, what do you mean?

And I was like, I have this at the house. I was like, I've never owned something that is also in a museum before. This is pretty cool. Well, at the Louvre in Paris, they have a piece of software that is the Louvre tour guide that is a 3DS game. And it is a very rare cartridge

because it was only available at the Louvre gift shop. But you could walk through the Louvre and get history of the paintings on the walls on your 3DS. Or their audio tours were available as a 3DS game. And I do think that this will play a part in today's topic, which we had to scramble and figure out last second because Nick, Nick had this great idea. We're gonna save it for a future podcast,

but the entire episode was going to be on Nick's shoulders today because he had this absolute bombshell of an idea and we were like, holy shit, I can't believe we've not done this before. And then he got roped in a jury duty. Yeah, so just know that whenever Nick comes back and we do this episode, it was his idea and it was good.

It was incredible. It's incredible. I do think now, you just kind of gave me an idea. One of the episodes that we should do, we should all do some sort of feats of strength? Wait what we should do we should compete in some sort of triathlon on the show Wait you My idea was wait what I thought cuz you were like it's such a good idea

It's all you saying it's on his shoulders sort of painted an image of me and we us competing in some sort of way. I don't know why But we're gonna move past it. Yeah, we are because actually I have an announcement and we should announce this now. Okay, what is it? Well? People have been asking for this What wait, what are we and we're gonna give it to them finally what get your wallets out folks? What are we talking about? Get Played's got merch, baby. Oh, okay. We got merch.

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great folks, been working with them. It's been a lovely experience. It has been a lovely experience. And our logo is so fucking good that I can't wait to actually wear it on a shirt. Yes, yes on a shirt of what I will say is hmm maybe somebody else should say this instead. What? A shirt of actual good quality is what I'll leave it at. High quality goods over at Kinship goods. So go check that out kinship goods.com slash get played Is is is it just the logo or is there some other surprises in our lineup? There's some surprises

I gotta say, okay. Do we want to say one anyway though the one that it is? I mean it's coming out It'll be out people will have seen it already as of the record or the wait as of the this is the release Yeah, as of the release of this yeah, people will know it yet. Nobody's How will they know if we because they're just hearing it right now Well, they're probably on their computer is going to cut it out. Maybe somebody else wants to say something about this particular shirt I don't think he knows. Oh, he doesn't know should we tell him? But I don't want he knows. Oh, he doesn't know? Should we tell him? I don't want to. Okay, okay.

Let's just say, look, before he gets here, I'm gonna go ahead and I'll just go ahead and say, there's a Resident Evil 4 merchant shirt. So now my question for you, the listener is, what are you buying? What are you buying? So that's all there, kinshipgoods.com slash get played. Very exciting stuff.

But I know I just asked a question. Yeah. But I guess it's time for another question, isn't it? Yep. What are you playing? What are you playing? I am the Resident Evil Merchant and I'm here to ask a question that I ask every week. And it's, what are you playing? Sorry, I was in the bathroom, did I miss anything? Don't worry about it, it's okay. Not really, great. You were in there,

I will say, for a long time. What was? You were in the bathroom for a long time. I was? Yeah. How long was I in there? Gosh, I mean. I do tend to lose consciousness.

I think- Sometimes when I'm urinating. If I'm remembering correctly, the last time I saw you, last week when we recorded, after the show, you went into the bathroom. I was in there a week? You were in there for a week. Good lord. That's a long time.

Were you going the whole time? I know it's a graphic question. No. Okay. No, no, no, no. Okay, wait, no, it's coming back to me. I broke the urinal. And I was putting it back together and I got tired.

I took a nap. Yeah. I remember hearing on, I was listening to another HeadGum podcast. And I remember in on I was listening to another headgun podcast And I remember in the background of Listening to that podcast. I heard a lot of oh god. Oh fuck. I broke it. I broke it. It's broken. Oh, no Nick's gonna be so sad Hey, I don't think that was me

You don't think that was you know, I don't think of Nick's well-being. I guess that's fair. I guess it could have been anybody. I guess it could have been... Jeff Kevin or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm here to ask you the question of the week. Oh, by the way, if you're confused at home, who am I? I'm the Resident Evil 4 Merchant, and in the games I say, what are you playing?

But here on the show I say, what are you playing? And I'm here to ask you, Madam Adaga, what are you playing? Oh God. I think you have to go back to the bathroom. Yeah, give me some nosebleed Also real quick before I say yeah, obviously we said that Nick's it not for you Talking to the listening audience at this point together as well. Can I hear it? You can hear it? Yeah Yeah, I should I is it from me to hear it for you to hear necessarily. It's obvious. Well, you want me to go No, I got I just I just to say, I know that we said that, you know, obviously Nick's not here

because he's at jury duty. I know that it's been a tricky time of year and just things going on with different folks at different times. Oh my God. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I just put one and one together. Now I know where I know that guy from. From here? No, the guy on my jury. Oh, oh then Nick shouldn't be on the jury I think. Yeah, I was like, how do I know

that guy? Yeah. Well you can't, I didn't want to tell my lawyer because I was like, maybe he's a friend. Yeah, you should, I mean you're to tell my lawyer because I was like maybe he's a friend Yeah, you should I mean you're gonna be I think in more trouble but also maybe Nick should disclose that there's a Conflict of interest, you know, but also I guess you could be I don't know Nick's a pretty objective guy I would say but um I'm suing California Get in line. Get in line. Hahaha! Black Friday!

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absences and there's been, you know, weeks where like I wasn't here or Heather wasn't here and Nick wasn't here. Yeah. and I know that you guys like to hear us all but I appreciate everybody's patience in this Just you know just this time is busy time of year We're just so just don't happen just be a lot going on and I know that it's not everyone's favorite when not everybody's here But we appreciate I agree. I like it best when all three of us are here And when I can't be here, it is not... It is under extreme duress that I have to miss the show. Yes.

It is the only thing in the week that I look forward to. That is... I would say for me too. Other than lunch. Other than lunch and I guess... spending time with our beautiful wives. Yeah, and sleeping. Yeah, and sleeping. And breakfast is probably pretty good too.

I make a good cup of coffee? I've been, I can't go down this road actually. Why? I've been very interested in an espresso machine that I, I can't get into it. Don't have the counter space to justify the, I'll say mildly expensive purchase. Yeah.

Don't have the counter space, But I've been eyeballing one. I got one in a cart just in case there's a dip. And there's a specific time of year where there are a bunch of deals coming up. Oh, I know about deals. Interesting. So I'll tell you what I've been playing. I've been playing a lot of metaphor,

hopefully enough to talk about it next week. Great. But I've been playing a lot of metaphor, hopefully enough to talk about it next week. Great. But I've been playing that, but when I'm not playing that, actually I just remembered something that I didn't even bring in to talk about. Oh wow. So as you know, I'm a big fan of the Arkham games. I'm pivoting completely. Holy, you're all over the place.

I'm going insane. I am a big fan of the Arkham game. Yeah. And I saw that the Arkham games are now available on Switch. All three. All three of the main ones. Not Arkham Origins. For some reason, they never port Arkham Origins

to anything else. It's locked in the PS3 for some reason. I wonder if they lost the code. I think they must have lost it. And so I saw it on sale. The trilogy was available. $ $30 I'm doing the math that's $10 a game to me that's a pretty good deal even having read that Arkham Knight runs atrociously on Switch but what I have

read is that Arkham Asylum and Arkham City run fantastically on the Switch. And those are my two favorites. I liked Arkham Knight just fine, but didn't love it as much as I loved. I think City is the best one. I know that there are people that are like, Arkham Asylum is the best one. But I've been playing Arkham Asylum on my Switch.

Matt, I've never played an Arkham game. Oh, Heather. They're as good as the Spider-Man games, but Batman. And Arkham Asylum is actually pretty interesting having not replayed it ever until now. I like completely forgot parts of it. It's more, obviously Arkham City is open world Gotham City. The whole city is a prison type of thing.

Arkham Asylum is just like, it feels so, it's just so closed in and intimate. It's Batman's Silent Hill. Kind of, but like with aerial traversal and like sneaking and stealth and just lots of punching. I have an admission. You don't like Batman. Honestly, so here's what happened to me.

I watched The Penguin and I hate Batman now. Oh. I haven't seen a second of The Penguin yet. Penguin's great. I wanna watch it. I'm not watching it for... It's great. I wanted it just to be all out.

It's great, but you watch the show, and I know the sort of mimetic joke of like, you know, how hard the world has changed since Batman was created, that now the idea of a billionaire in this oppressed city dressing up in like all of his fancy toys at night and beating the shit out of criminals is kind of distasteful. Yes.

Watching Penguin, you're like, how fucking dare this guy? Yeah. And it's not like, certainly the Penguin is not a good guy. He's not a good, they don't like- He's a criminal mastermind. Yeah, they don't clean wash the Penguin.

No. The Penguin is still a bad person. Yeah. But you're in, He's not good. They don't like a criminal mastermind. They don't clean wash the penguin No, the penguin is still a bad person Yeah, but you're in you're in the trenches with these people and some of the stories you see you're like man, this fucking person is just like Getting a bad hand at every turn until they have no choices but to have these associates. And you're like, if Batman showed up and beat the shit out of this person,

I would shoot Batman in the head with a gun. I would run him over with my car. I'd be so livid. And I know that we're supposed to think, oh, Bruce Wayne has this technology so he can probably keep track of everybody in Gotham or whatever. That's bad.

Yeah, whatever his action is in the stories, whether it's the Nolan trilogy or the new, is it Matt Reeves? Matt Reeves, yeah. Yeah, Matt Reeves trilogy. But watching The Penguin, you're like, the idea that Batman exists in this world and it is so well fleshed out

and it makes sense that he'd be in the world. You know, it starts like two days after the Batman movie. Yes. It's so fucking good. I can't wait to watch it. I've been holding off until it was all out. So good. So good, dude.

One of the episodes is like a top tier actually good, like instead of it just being like, wow, this is really good for a comic book series, there's one episode where you're like, oh shit, this is actually a good television episode. I like that every show now has an episode that is like the episode in The Last of Us that is just better than anything that's ever been on TV before

and it's better than the entire show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if we went extremely hard and snapped on this one? Yeah, yeah. So I'm replaying Arkham Asylum on my Switch is the headline there. The other thing that I was gonna say is that I haven't mentioned this on the show yet

and this kind of plays heavily into the topic for today is I'm holding something in my hand and Heather is like, what's Matt got in his hand there? It looks like a galaxy note. It does kind of look like that and that's honestly one of the things that I like about it. This is. Is that a 2DS?

This is a 2DS LL from Japan. What the fuck? Which is the XL in Japan and it is a modded and tricked out galore and this is now in my pocket basically at all times it has a bunch of 3ds games on it of course it has some of the games from the eShop on it all games that I have and It also I have instead of having a bunch of loose carts Lying around I have a flash cart in here with a bunch of

Regular DS may I see games on it as well, and let me tell you something about this damn thing It was very lightweight. It's very lightweight and it's it's extremely pocketable in a way that I wish that like the analog pocket was and Some other devices that are open-faced but the fact that this is a clamshell and Just pops in your slides. It's about the size of my phone basically a little bit thicker That thing is with me basically anywhere that I know that I'm gonna have a little bit of downtime.

Can I say something about this device, having never held it before, that I don't mean as a criticism of your joy? No. So one of my favorite things about the 3DS is the build quality feels really unlike. Yes. It feels so dense, it feels thick and unhollow.

Like you could chuck it against the wall kind of. The original 3DS almost feels like an Apple device, like it's really solid. Yes. This is much more toy-like. Yes, I agree. And there's like a sort of a little bit of travel on the top screen.

Yes. I'm surprised, I'm surprised at the device feeling as, it's so lightweight that I can understand why you would just carry it everywhere. Yes. But I am surprised at the build quality a little bit. I wish it was a little harder, I agree. The way that it feels in the way that it feels in

the hand here is like it's very much like this is plastic that you know containing the like 3ds within it yeah whereas the other the original 3ds was like this is the whole goddamn thing yeah like and like And I do agree that it feels a little bit, not cheaper, certainly, but a little less protected. But I do, I love that you have it. It was really fun to mod. It was extremely hard because all the menus are in Japanese and there's not a way, you can region change a 3DS pretty easily,

but there's just like extra steps involved and I think like opening it up is a factor. And I was like, I'm not gonna do that. I think I'm just gonna download Google Translate on my phone and navigate the menus with a second screen until I'm done modding it. Because now I don't really need to mess around with it. I just pick on the game and it loads in English.

I have a surprisingly uneducated question. Yes. Why go with the Japanese model? Because that was what was available. The, for some reason that when I was buying them, when I was sourcing them, the, and I think it's probably because the modding community is now buying these and modding them. And of course, so

there's a premium on this device now. I'm not uncomfortable saying that it was like $200, which is basically what it cost new. And this a secondhand one this was an s-tier condition in from what I was able to get there was a seller that had a bunch of them in varying conditions had photos supporting all of this and like I went with the one that was the nice one because I didn't want it to have any problems and that was just yeah what they had available they didn't want it to have any problems. And that was just what they had available. They didn't have the regular XL. Because that would have made my life, I'll say, 25% easier while I was modding it because

I wouldn't have had to look at a second screen while I was doing it and things like that. But it ultimately was still as easy as doing a regular one. And now that the eShshop is now closed on these devices It is imperative That if you have one of these devices I highly recommend modding one if you are able to do so when I heard that the e-shop was closing Yes, the I went back onto my 3ds and I downloaded the lube game Because I was like incredible. I will never fucking see this yes

I should get that to see if I can I should see if I can able to Source it actually like a ROM for it or whatever Yeah, but I was just like I want an official copy of the lube walking tour so now I mean this will get into this later. I now have all three versions of I Have three versions of the 3DS, not all versions, I suppose. I have this one, and this is the 2DS XL. It's not a 3D version.

I have the regular 3DS that is the Ocarina of Time one. And I have the wedge, the 2DS wedge. I have two 2DSs, which is insane. That's a lot of 2DSs. Yeah. I don't have a 2DS because I loved the 3D effect on the 3DS. I just like never used it. Oh, I had a- I would use it a little bit and then turn it off.

Permanently on for me. Permanently on. Loved it. What are you playing, Heather? Well, Matt, you've changed my life a little bit. I'm playing the Pokemon card game on mobile. I'm still playing it as well. And I am loving it. And I wanna anecdotally say that my wife is the luckiest person on planet Earth.

And- Can I say what I said earlier? No. Fine. I said, I already know that because she's your wife. Very nice. Ranch didn't get to hear it earlier. It's very kind. I don't get it! What does it mean?

If this were a sitcom... Wait, wait, who's lucky in the... If this were a sitcom, instead of a laugh track? Yeah, the audience would go. Oh Wait, I'm lost What audience Can you guys hear them? No, if there were I can't hear anything. No, there's not an audience No, like people listen to the show later. So I guess there is an audience They're not all listening to it at the same time I can't hear anything. No, there's not an audience. People listen to the show later, so I guess there is an audience.

They're not all listening to it at the same time. I would suspect some of them are listening to it at the same time based on just listening habits, but I don't think there's not a group of people that listen altogether in a room and respond as an audience. Okay. Like I was.

Okay. I just, I just wanna make sure I didn't miss anything. Yeah, I'd love to keep talking about the Pokemon Card Game Merchant. So I, so yeah, I'm playing the Pokemon Card Game on mobile. Great presentation. Any time I boot up a Nintendo or Nintendo adjacent mobile game, the first time I play it, I play it with the music on. I play it with the volume up, the music on, because there's such loving, crafted quality in all of those sound effects, all the little chimes,

the default music. Great work. I would say that while it is a battling game, while it is a, it is Pokemon the card game on mobile to battle against strangers or AI, it is mostly an opening a pack game. And all you do all day is look forward to opening a pack of pictures on your fucking phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With the hopes that maybe one of the pictures

will be unlikely, but also it's not like you can't see those pictures if you just go online and look for the pictures. You're describing this the way an alien would describe it. So you open this package with pictures and some of the pictures are less likely to occur so those are nicer pictures it is like it is like that well I so my wife was why I brought my wife to Disneyland she never been before it was first time ever and I was like oh my while we're standing in

this line my timer's up for opening a Pokemon card game. I explained the game to her, and she's like, oh, can I open one? I was like, absolutely. My fucking wife, on her first open of a pack, pulls a crown rated Charizard card that is like the title card of the deck. Like ultimate 3D gold foil fucking like first, and it's also not, it isn't even presented the way,

the cards are randomly, theoretically randomly shuffled, the pictures are randomly shuffled inside of these virtual packs. Yes. It's the first fucking card on the top of the deck. It's not even like she goes through a couple of them. It's the first thing she sees. And I went, oh my God.

And she's like, what, is this one good? And I'm like, yeah, yes. Yes, if this had happened in real life, we would have probably made like $200 just now. Anyway, excellent little game. I have, I've gone through the playing against other people. It's awakening these old memories of when I used to play the card game for real.

Makes me angry at myself for giving away my decks. It's a really good presentation. Am I of the understanding that after you get through the expansion packs that you're currently on that they you get to go through other maybe historic expansion packs? You know some of the art from the cards is like recycled from like the cards I remember. That Pikachu is like the original Pikachu. Yes and some of them are newer and so like maybe from different sets.

There's a section that says like select like booster packs for everyone, it's only the three that are currently available to us. I would imagine that as like the game goes, continues in their seasons, they will probably add new packs. Like I said, last week on the show, I guess if you don't spend any money,

it could take two years to get all the cards from this particular set. I have like 500 cards now, but I get a lot of repeats. A lot of repeats. When you get repeats, you can make them sparkly. Yes, that is pretty nice. Which is a great just a really simple way to make you feel unpunished For getting a duplicate. Do you think I guess I hadn't thought about this

So like when you select because there's three packs to choose from currently right so you select the type of pack you want right? Do the Charizard Mewtwo or Pikachu yeah? I'm in a Mewtwo pack opening phase right now. I've been opening a lot of Mewtwo packs. Okay, I randomize. Interesting. For some reason I've been like, I'll go through like, okay, I'll do one of each when I can,

but I'm like, I think now my strategy is do a bunch of one kind for a while until you're like, okay, now let's move on to another one. Do you think the cards, because it'll show you like 10 or 12 packs that you can quote unquote pick from. Yes. Do you think all those packs have different cards in them,

or do you think the cards that you get ultimately are in any of the packs? I have no idea. And I would imagine that it would take a lot of hacking to find out what's in that code. Yeah. I do know that when it was Mary's turn to pick her pack, she did very slowly cycle through all of the packs

available. And then she was like, oh, this one, which made me feel like I was watching Neo. Because if they aren't all the same pack, then she could have picked any of them. She could have picked any of them, but instead she picked the pack that had the fucking crown Charizard on top.

Like she could see through my phone into like untruths. Hmm. Yeah, that's pretty concerning. Actually, what's what's started as a good story has now made me scared. I'm terrified of my wife. I think as every person who has a wife should be. She's she's so lucky. It's crazy. Yeah. Like if you have to be like at a roulette table, ask my wife what to bet on. But she hates gambling, so she'll never be at a roulette table. I bet you if I said that I wanted to go play roulette,

Mary would be like, I'll go with you. Like it's like she, what? Wait, what? I'll hang out, why not? I mean, probably if you asked. But if I asked- It'd be like a crazy thing for me to wanna do. Yeah, it would be. She'd be like oh

Okay, I'll make sure that I go with you so that you stay safe What does that mean? I go with me. No with me. She comes with me to protect me She's gonna go with you to a casino to protect you. Yeah What do you think is that it doesn't matter? What I was going to say anecdotally is It's like when we're playing Animal Crossing back in 2020 and she's looking at all the pictures of all the different Animals that could come to the island and she's like oh I want that one to come and the first fucking dude that comes to her island is that guy Wow it's that way I

Dude that comes to our island is that guy wow it's that way I? That just reminded me I had the phone one the phone animal crossing Yeah, what do you think is coming out now as like animal crossing pocket camp complete with all the stuff in it, okay? Thank God I Had a I had an animal in my village there named ketchup, okay, and she was a green duck no no red duck with green hair yeah extremely cute yeah I wanted her to come to my island on switch so bad and I never saw her it was devastating to me I loved ketchup I think ketchup is the cutest one because the name is so cute too. And I like ketchup. That condiment. It's a pretty good condiment. I would say.

What's this now? You've never heard of ketchup. You mean to tell me what you mean to tell me. You've never heard of ketchup. What is it? Maybe I have. It's like, it's a tomato based... Sauce, I guess you would call it. Uh, like a dipping sauce.

Uh, it's typically sweeter. So it has a sort of sweet... Quality to it. When you dip like, say like a French fry and it's got like a salty sweet. Oh, it's like, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah there's this stuff on spaghetti. Um you see the thing that I'm having a hard time with is that I've heard of people doing that. What? Like eating spaghetti? Yeah I eat spaghetti like putting like ketchup or like I've heard of like ketchup spaghetti before. All right well maybe that's it.

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Matt do you want to talk about the topic? I'd say there's no time like the present, certainly. Okay. Well, being that we had to pivot so hard right before we came into the record, Matt and I got to thinking, what are we passionate about? What have we been thinking about lately? And then we both looked at each other and at the exact same moment pointed and I said, hand-helds. And he said hand-helds. And then I was like, oh, right, right, right, I got to french fries and he said handhelds. And then I was like, oh, right, right, right.

I got to do handhelds. But here's the thing, fries was a close second, if I'm being honest. If there was a video game, french fries is, wait, let me try that again. If there was french fries, but were video game, then we would do an episode on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If there was french fries, if french fries were video game, then we would do an episode on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If there was French fries, if French fries were video game, we would do the episode for sure. Correct. Real quick before we get into the topic, what are your favorite kind of fries? This goes for ranch as well. Oh, I have the unpopular answer.

Well, no, I have a popular answer. Hold on, I have two, three answers. Is your answer gonna be mashed potatoes? My favorite kind of fry. Mashed potatoes. So my very, very favorite, of course, is gonna be a Dutch french fry. Okay.

They are the masters of the french fry. Tell that to the French. I will. I'll tell the French, go fuck yourself. Eat some Dutch french fries. So Dutch french fries are sort of like a Belgian french fry variant. They're a double fried thick cut french fry.

My favorite sauce on a Dutch french fry is Orlog sauce, which is peanut butter, mayonnaise, and onion. Hmm. Let me tell you guys, this was the worst thing I'd ever heard when I moved to Holland. I was like, there's no fucking way I will ever try that. And then one night when I'm drunk,

my Dutch friends are like, you got to try it, it's so good. And I was like, okay. And I tried it and motherfuckers, I don't understand why it's a good sauce. It is incredible sauce. I'm looking at it, it looks like poutine adjacent. Like that's gravy, typically. Yeah, but it's not gravy, it's peanut butter.

It's not gravy, it's peanut butter. I'll go to my grave never having this. No, here's what's gonna happen. Next year or the year after, when I finally convince you and I to go do shows in Europe on a tour. Yeah, here's the thing, Heather. You don't have to convince me. I'm there.

And Nick is remote recording over Zoom to these events. How mad would people be? I think that if they were fan enough to come to the show, they would understand that Nick wouldn't be there Yeah, I'm there no matter what I'm there no matter what oh But while we're while we're doing our stopover in the Netherlands I'm gonna I'm gonna treat or log sauce after a couple of beers and you're gonna be like holy shit and you're come back Evangelizing and change I know I just said I'll never have them but if we're there

evangelizing and change. I know I just said I'll never have them. But if we're there? If I'm there, I'll eat it. Like I'll always try like the I'll try the the unique food of the place. Yeah, yes, I'll try the local. So that's fry number one, fry number two is the french fries at Worstkuch. Those rules. Those fucking fries rule. It's a place in the Arts District here in Los Angeles in the Arts District of downtown Los Angeles. That is an incredible, like, what would you call it? Hot dog sausage restaurant? It's a sausage restaurant, a hot dog restaurant, they have bratwurst, bockwurst,

but they also have very bizarre variations like rattlesnake rabbit sausage or whatever, like really, really strange, interesting, and unique sausage concoction, but they also have a double French, or a double fried Belgian french fry. Excellent french fries. Really good, and I will say,

if you're ever in the area or have never been, if you're from Los Angeles, you never been, I highly recommend going, especially if you're a mustard fan, because the tables are lined With like every kind of mustard and some of them are almost sand like just like the most granular mustard Yeah, so good If you're a mustard freak like me the third because I'm only naming top threes The third is going to stand in stark contrast and confusing

is going to stand in stark contrast and confusing stark contrast to these two excellent french fries because I know it's extremely polarizing. In-N-Out french fries. Wow. Fucking love them. I like them too. I like, but the place to eat them is at the Reshcon. Yeah, you can't eat them to go or some shit. You have to eat them right there. But when you're in the, when you're in the four walls of an In-N-Out, that's, that's a home run. Matt, what's yours? I'm gonna go ahead and say same.

No, you know, I actually like the fries at Spitz a lot. Oh, okay, Spitz is a Mediterranean street food restaurant, a chain here in Los Angeles. No, I can't say that they're my favorite fries, but I like those, and I actually just remember what my favorite fries are Let's go You ever been to islands

No, but you guys talk about it all the fucking islands is my favorite restaurant I think I it's number one with a bullet for me ranch. What do you think about fries? I? Love fries. What do you know we're getting good fries? What? Really love Shake Shack fries. Oh those are good. Those are crinkle, right? Yeah Anytime I see a curly fry I get a curly fry Yeah, great Yeah

And I also love in-and-out fries everyone everyone gets mad at me when I say that people don't cut and fucking in-and-out fries They're so good what they should be doing is dunking in some fucking ketchup and shut your damn mouth. What is this? Oh god, okay, okay go? It's the red the red All right, I'm gonna try it we have to talk about the topic um Yeah, it kind of you know fries do kind of play into it because you hold them with their hand do you not there we go That's that is the king of Transitions right there. Nick just kinda like... I channeled Nick just there, yeah.

Um, so, uh... Wait, do you know what I just thought or realized? If he's not here because he's on jury duty, then he's on a jury. It's late at night and I think he's on a jury. Because it's late at night, and I think he's not, I think he's not telling us. I think what it is is because Nick commutes into the studio. Right.

So I think jury duty, I think, probably finishes around 5 o'clock. And depending on where he had to go, travel time would make it so that he couldn't come either way. I don't know that that's true. I think I think he's on a jury oh well sure yeah or do you think you said you're a do you think that do you think he said jury duty but he meant that he is on trial he's representing himself. Hey buddy. Yeah, he's on. I'm innocent buddy.

He's on trial, oh boy. Oh my God. What a way to find out. Nick, please don't be. Don't be on trial, Nick. But handhelds, Heather. Handheld video games, handheld video games. So we're talking about handhelds this week.

Matt and I are big fans of handheld video games. And I wanna talk a little bit about the history of handheld video games. A lot of this is going to be cribbed from Wikipedia because I didn't have a lot of time to prepare, but I did prepare one segment and that's coming a little bit later. The history of handheld video games

doesn't start with the Game Boy. It doesn't start with the Game Boy. It doesn't start with the Game and Watch. It starts with these single use LCD style game machines that are effectively digital watches with a single game inside, blown up to the size of a small laptop computer. For example, Tomy released a Pac-Man handheld game,

which was in the shape of Pac-Man. There were four face buttons that allowed you to control the directions of Pac-Man on the front of the machine, a start and a power button, and it chewed through batteries. And I actually owned this. I may still own this in my hole,

but they're simple, like single color LED displays. And I'm not thinking of like machines like Simon, which on the Wikipedia page is listed as one of the handheld electronic gaming steps in the history of the medium. That to me is- Should we do an episode on Simon? On Simon.

We just, we learned that Nick can't memorize one But yeah, there's there's a bunch of like early toy based handheld devices yeah bop it Bop it yeah, what do you think about bop it? That's like in the 90s though? Yeah, but it's still kind of the same thing. I guess, yeah, I guess so. I guess so. Don't get me started on Bop It Extreme. So, very famous, Gunpei Yokoi from Nintendo history. In 1979, anecdotally, he sees a businessman playing with an LCD calculator

by pressing the buttons on a bullet train. And he comes up with a concept that would be a miniature LED game machine used for killing time, a Game Watch. And then in 1980, Nintendo begins to release the Game and Watch games, which are like little micro versions of Donkey Kong or Balloon Dudes.

What was the name of that one? Balloon Fight? Balloon Fight, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Balloon Fight. It has a single game on an LCD screen and a built-in clock. They were immensely popular, and they also introduced the D-pad controller, a format that ends up extending onto all the other Nintendo handhelds all

the way up through this day. Well, I guess the Switch doesn't. Switch Lite has a D-pad. Yeah, and it's superior for it. Got it. You should just, they should just have the option. How could they not make a left switch controller that just has a D-pad? They have third party joy cons that have a D-pad instead.

I don't do third party. Oh, shit. Oh, fuck third party. Whoa. And then in 1989 everything changes The Nintendo Game Boy is launched with the game Tetris, and if you've seen the movie Tetris on Netflix on Apple on Apple you get kind of a because it was an Apple. I'm guessing you did you didn't watch it. That's okay And also it's not very historically accurate from what I understand.

No. But you get a little anecdote, little stories about how hard it was to license a game from the Soviet Union in order for it to be the launch title of the Game Boy. It's a cartridge-based system, and it becomes a global phenomenon. The monochromatic display, the durable design, and extensive game library solidified Nintendo's dominance in handheld gaming for years to come.

At the same time, the Atari Lynx, Atari being a huge name in games still in the 1980s, the Atari Lynx is released, which was the first handheld console with a color LCD screen and backlighting. And despite these advanced features, it struggled due to its high price and extremely short battery life. with a color LCD screen and backlighting. And despite these advanced features, it struggled due to its high price

and extremely short battery life. I'd also say the limited software library it holds back the Atari Lynx. It's also an ugly machine. Fucking ugly. Look up the Atari Lynx while I take a swig of water before I launch into my pre-written. Oh God, it looks like you could stand on it.

Yeah, it looks like a scale. It looks like Atari was like, what if you turned a skateboard into a handheld gaming device? And I also know that it must be because of the time, the amount of batteries it would take to power a larger screen. The for those of you not looking at this, the amount of this thing that isn't screen is baffling to me for how large it looks.

But then the handheld wars began. Today on our program, the colorful challenger stories about ambition, innovation, and the quest to change the game, literally. We're diving into the history of the Sega Game Gear, a handheld console that dared to bring color to the monochromatic world. Act one, a vision in handheld. Picture this, it's 1990.

The Berlin Wall has just fallen. The internet is in its infancy. And in the world of video games, the Nintendo Game Boy reigns supreme. It's chunky, it's gray device with a tiny greenish screen. The games are in black and white, or rather, shades of peace soup. No one seems to mind because, for the first time, you can play Super Mario on the go. Enter Sega. Known for its edgy arcade games and the Genesis console, which comes later, Sega looks at the Game Boy and sees an opportunity. Why settle for monochrome when you can have color? Why squint at a dim screen when you can have a backlight? Why settle for the Atari Lynx when they can do it better?

So in late 1990 in Japan and 1991 in North America and Europe, Sega releases the Game Gear, sleek and black with a full-color backlit screen. It's like holding the future in your hands. The Game Gear is not just a handheld, it's a statement. And what you're saying is, we can do better. The console feels a substantial both in weight and in promise. It brings to life games like Sonic the Hedgehog in vivid color, a stark contrast to the Game Boy's muted tones. Sega positions the Game Gear as a sophisticated alternative, a step above in every way. But innovation comes at a cost. The color screen and backlight, while impressive, are power hungry.

The Game Gear requires six AA batteries and offers three hours of gameplay. Compare that to the Game Boy's four AA's and up to 15 hours of gameplay. Compare that to the Game Boy's four double A's and up to 15 hours of gameplay. Wow. Three hours on six double A's. Geez. That's a lot of batteries for a kid. Yeah, and batteries have never been cheap.

Yeah, they haven't, but gamers find themselves tethered to walls with AC adapters or carrying pockets full of spare batteries. Or if you're my parents, you would introduce the concept of rechargeable batteries to your daughter. Act 2, the battle for pockets. Despite the battery life, the Game Gear garners a dedicated following. Sega markets it aggressively, often taking direct shots at Nintendo in commercials. They showcase the Game Gear's superior graphics, its ability to display dozens of colors simultaneously,

and its backlit screen that allows for play in the dark, something that Game Boy can't do without a third party accessory. And the Game Gear just isn't about games. Sega releases a TV tuner, turning the handheld into a portable television. Let me, as an aside, say, watching the commercials for the TV tuner blew my mind as a child. I never had it. Yeah.

Too expensive, very little use case. Yeah, cause what are you gonna watch on it? But imagine, imagine if you could plug, I mean, now you can imagine you can watch anything on earth on your phone. Yeah, I could watch Oppenheimer on my phone. Right, but if you were, but if you were, when were you born? In December of 1990.

So you're born in December of 1990. So you probably have memories of of the of the Nokia brick phones. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine if you could snap something into that and it would become a television. It was pretty wild. But while the Game Gear pushes technological boundaries, Nintendo focuses on content, the Game Boy's game library expands rapidly with titles like Tetris, which becomes a cultural

phenomenon, and then Pokemon, which spawns a franchise that still thrives today. Developers are more inclined to create games for the platform with a larger user base, and despite its technical limitations, the Game Boy outsells the Game Gear by a large margin. The Game Gear by a large margin. The Game Gear also faces challenges with third-party support. Many game developers see the Game Boy as a safer investment due to its massive market share.

Sega tries to compensate by porting popular Genesis titles to the Game Gear, but the handheld's hardware can't replicate the console experience. By 1997, the Game Gear is discontinued. It never dethrones the Game Boy, but its influence lingers. The Game Gear showed that gamers desired

more immersive experiences even on the go and it paved the way for future handhelds that would incorporate color screens and more advanced graphics. Fast forward to 2020. To celebrate its 60th anniversary, Sega released the Game Gear Micro in Japan. It's a nostalgic nod to their ambitious handheld

shrunk down to a collectible size. Imagine a key chain that can play Game Gear games. It reminds us of a time when Sega dared to challenge the giants to innovate boldly, even when success wasn't guaranteed. But now, I wear glass. Join me for next week for more stories on this American life. Wow. You know if there's going to be an opportunity Join me next week for more stories on this American life. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha genre as it were is Basically in my mind a Nintendo genre Wow like I only ever think about Nintendo handhelds because that's all I had for a long time I only had my first one was the Gameboy color

Yep released in 1998 an upgrade to the original Gameboy and introduced a color screen while maintaining backward compatibility with the Gameboy games Huge in backward compatibility while maintaining backward compatibility with the Game Boy games? Huge, and backward compatibility, obviously being talked about now with the successor to the Switch, that was announced, weirdly on November 6th, 2024.

One of the only good things that happened that day. Just happened to be announced at the exact same time. But so that, so I only ever think about that, I Just happen to be announced at the exact same time But so that so I only ever think about that, but um you know you lose backward compatibility For a lot of consoles at this at a certain point obviously you could play PlayStation PlayStation one games on PlayStation 2 And please in both on PlayStation 3 launch, but then after that kind of never again I Loved my gameboy color we had I've told this story million times we had one We had one yeah, and we had three copies. We had red blue and yellow I think I got my gameboy color when yellow came out because we had yellow first of

Pokemon and then got red and blue afterwards not realizing being a little kid and also just not knowing that they were Different or that they were the same but just like different and then we eventually got a second gameboy color and That was fine even though I had There was four of us So we're still there was never as not as many as we needed is this the thing I? Finally then we got a game would advance I got my own at a certain point because I couldn't deal with not having my own Like saved money for a couple of birthdays and stuff just and did whatever I could to get extra money to buy my own

Actually rare one that I still have the toys are us edition own, actually rare one that I still have, the Toys R Us edition Game Boy Advance that was black, which was incredible looking. Looks really good still, have that one. And then, but yeah, then from then on, I didn't get, I got a PSP late. Well, before we move forward, let's look a little bit more at the other handhelds

that are released in the 1990s. You have the Turbo Express, which was a handheld version of the TurboGrafx-16. It played the same cue card games. That's crazy. But was extremely expensive and had very limited market impact. I think the Game Gear is more popular than the Turbo Express.

You have the Neo Geo Pocket and the Neo Geo Pocket Color, which were SNK's entry in handhelds, and they were a 16-bit experience. Again, crazy. That is really wild to think about. To think that at the same time, the Game Boy Color is playing like three-bit games. There's something that's trying to churn out

Super Nintendo and Genesis quality graphics on a handheld device? I remember, I used to go to this day camp during the summer when we were off school and my mom had to go to work. And I remember going on a field trip with this camp and everybody had Game Boys and Game Boy Advances and this one kid in the camp group had a Neo Geo pocket. Jesus.

And we were like, what the hell's the matter with you? It was cool, because nobody else had anything like that. My youth. You're talking about my youth. Think about, everyone's playing like Pokemon, and everyone's playing, you know, whatever else. Mega Man Battle Network or whatever. And then this kid's like playing,

like Metal Slug on a Neo Geo pocket or something. Insane. kid's like playing like metal slug on a Neo Geo pocket or something. Yeah, unbelievable that it's possible. Yeah. But just shocking. In 1999 and 2000, you get the Wonder Swan and Wonder Swan color, which are both developed by Gunpei Yokoi.

He's no longer at Nintendo at this time because of the Virtual Boy. Handheld or not? Handheld or not? Right? Heather, no. Not right. Right, is that why-

You have to put your face into it. Hold on, let me make sure it was- It's not a handheld. We've had the Wonderswan on this podcast before. An incredible device, low-cost, extensive game library, but was never released internationally. And what was the thing with the... The games were like, what were they on?

They were like a sort of unique format. No, a cartridge. They're just like cartridges? They're just like wide cartridges. Okay. The problem is that by the time they're looking at releasing this thing internationally, the Gameboy Advance comes out in 2001 and Everybody in their right mind is like why would we ever try and eat Nintendo's lunch?

Nintendo had the and I feel like this has come up in a similar way and perhaps you have said this There was a time at Nintendo where Nintendo was kind of like Apple We're like they were sort of like leading the industry in this way Where they were like as soon as they put something out whatever else came out was cooked Yeah, they're fucking done because you can you imagine? Your mr. Yokoi And you're like wonder swans about to come out in the states. It's gonna be huge for me Nintendo's like actually here's the Game Boy Advance. Like you just couldn't, even as much as you liked

the WonderSwan after you got it, it's not a Game Boy Advance. Yeah, you look at the WonderSwan, you're like, this only takes one battery? Holy shit! That is crazy. Holy shit! Yeah.

But no, it doesn't, it doesn't make a make a difference It's 2001 the Gameboy Advance comes out in 2003 the Nokia engage comes out, which is a hybrid mobile phone and gaming device predicting the future of mobile games yeah absolutely garbage machine because I think them the miscalculation is Or at least there was, because it was a phone. It's a phone. I believe it was a shitty phone. Shaped like a taco.

And they're trying to bring. The Tomb Raider game was on it. Yes, they're trying to bring like full ass games to the phone at this time. And it's not there. One of the worst parts of the Nokia N-Gage, I don't know if you remember this, Matt. I coveted an N-Gage.

I did not. Is that you hold it sideways to your head in order to make a call. Yeah. You couldn't hold it like a phone. You had to like perpendicularly hold it to your ear. Like a gun. I wanted one so bad, but you just, you have to remember, I was about 13 years old.

Yeah. Of course I would want something so stupid looking. Yeah. Cause everybody else had like the big phone at that time, at least of my youth was the T-Mobile sidekick. Yeah. That had the little-Mobile Sidekick. Yeah. That had the little screen that would flip up. Oh yeah.

And then to reveal a keyboard. And that was really cool. And I was like, actually, you know what's cool? The Nokia N-Gage. I miss cell phones with action. Flips, twists, snaps. This is sort of why I've been digging about handhelds, honestly, because I miss

Dedicated devices tactile experience. I've missed phone just being phone. I miss iPod I miss you know mini-disc mini. I miss yeah dedicated music player. I miss Thing that was just games only now game is computer Now it's all of the same stuff. It's all one thing. But you know what? There are still dedicated devices. They're just virtual reality helmets.

There's not anything else you can do in that helmet. I look at, no, but to me, it's the helmet, but it's also everything else. Yeah, it is. It's not just that. It's like, it's to replace all of it. Yeah, it is. It's not just that, it's to replace all of it. Yeah. You know, what's funny is that I could probably bring

a mini disc in and show it to Ranch and she wouldn't know what it was. Have you seen a mini disc before, Ranch? Like a small CD. All right, great. So I'm gonna bring that in from one of our records. I almost thought you were an idiot. I can't wait to show her.

She'll be like, what is this? And here's the thing, Ranch. I barely know what it is. They do seem cool. I like the occasionally you'll post a cozy photo of one. Oh my God, I love them so much. Yeah. It's 2004 and the Nintendo DS comes out.

It's the same year that the PlayStation Portable comes out. If you're too young to remember this face off, the PlayStation Portable comes out. If you're too young to remember this face-off, the PlayStation Portable looked so much better than the Nintendo DS, especially the launch unit. Yeah. Like, I'm on the train in Holland looking at magazine articles about these two devices, and I was like, oh, my God, you can watch movies on the PSP,

you can listen to music on the PSP and you can play fancy ass fucking 3D video games on the PSP. Sony's about to win it. Holy shit, we're gonna go. The thing that was so crazy about the PSP to me is that it was little discs, not mini discs. Yeah, it was little CDs.

UMDs. Yeah, little UMDs. And for those of you that weren't there, these are, I think, the loudest things ever made. They were so fucking loud. They were loud. You mean when they were spinning in the machine? Yeah. They were like buzz saws.

Yeah, they were buzz saws. But also, when you've just come off of the first generation of CD-based home consoles, the idea of having a CD inside of your portable device in an era when CDs were still technically available at store, like you're still buying CDs once in a while in 2004, you're like, oh my God, this thing is gonna kill Nintendo. I think the last CD I bought was when I was in college, like in 2012. But somehow, despite CDs remaining until 2012.

It's not true, I bought CDs recently. I have not bought a CD in I don't know how long. I bought a box set of CDs. What? It was a Weezer 30th anniversary box set. Okay. Okay. Okay. I bought it just to have okay. That's fine. That's great I'm glad that you did that I'll never question a weezer purchase from you. I don't have anything to fucking play them on My car doesn't have it wait can the PlayStation not play it. Oh, I guess you probably can I Guess I'll find out or break it

Oh, I guess you probably can. I guess I'll find out or break it. Somehow, despite the PlayStation portables, everything machine capability and excellent commercials, the Nintendo DS eats its fucking lunch with worse graphics, an uglier machine, and like a gimmick that at the time nobody understands why you would want it. Two screens, you're like, why? It looks shittier than the one screen on the PSP. Cause I mean, I know that this isn't true for all PSP games.

Some of the games that are on the PSP are wild to me that they're even on there. The God of War games are as good as the god of war games For the PlayStation 2 and then are ported to PlayStation 2 later But some of the PSP games that come out are sort of like they don't feel like full experiences kind of they're so strange They're like it did it kind of feel like I don't know like they're just not really They're kind of all half-baked kind of or they're like smaller. They feel like smaller experiences kind of or they're like smaller they feel like smaller experiences than what you would want from the IP sort of like even like even the Daxter game which I know has its fans I'm like this kind of is like a shittier version of Jack and

Daxter. You're also in a world where you there's no way for you to watch a movie on the go. Yeah. So I got my PSP right before I went to Japan for the very first time. And I packed, I think three movies, and I also found out a way to transcode, because you could also load media onto the thing. And I found out a way to transcode hard-subbed Naruto episodes onto the PSP, so I had like 10 episodes of Naruto to watch on the plane.

And everyone around me was stuck watching just the like in-flight entertainment, which at the time didn't offer you any choice. It was like, this is the movie you're watching. And adult men, mostly adult men, would be looking at me, switching between like, Reign of Fire, or like, like Shrek, or some shit,

or like watching Naruto episodes while they were suffering through the notebook, or whatever was on loop. Yeah, my PSP came with a copy of Kick Ass. Yeah. I can't believe that, anyway, I can't believe that device failed. It's crazy that it failed, but it had no good software

No, and all it came down to at the time was the software the stuff on the Nintendo DS was inspired People were like oh wow two screens this might be fun to fuck around with yeah, let's make the world ends with you Yeah, let's make the fucking, that Zelda game that when you close it, the link becomes flat or whatever, like, or part, you know, whatever that was called. I don't remember. In 2005, Game Boy Micro comes out,

which is a smaller, sleeker version of the Game Boy Advance. It lacks backward compatibility with older Game Boy games, but as a tiny little perfect beautiful little device, woo wee, I'm so happy I still have mine. I know that you said that it's not that good. I covet one so bad. I'll bring mine in and you can play it. I wanna see it.

And you can be like. It hurts my hands. Yeah, you can be like, this is too small. Yeah. The Nintendo DS Lite and Nintendo DSi come out in 2006 and 2008, which are improved versions of the original DS with brighter screens, slimmer designs, and added features like cameras and downloadable content.

When the DS Lite comes out, that's when I'm like, oh, they finally made the DS. The original DS felt like a prototype. Yeah, it... Yeah, like a, like a developer kit almost. Yeah, it felt like an internal use only machine. I had it, I got it, and I was made fun of. Yeah, it's a weird looking fucking thing. Yeah, and I eventually then bought a,

I had the foresight for some reason to keep my launch DS, but bought a DS Lite also instead of trading it in. I don't know what I must've traded in to get it, but I was like, I have to have a DS Lite. This is gonna be, I have to have this version of it. Got that and loved the DS Lite. The thing I hated about it was that it still had the slot for Game Boy Advance games. But they didn't fit all the way in.

Yeah, they stuck out. Yeah, I was like, I wish it was just like, it was flush with the end of the console. But I loved the DS Lite quite a bit, but then I traded that one in for my 3DS, and I wish I still had the Lite. I have a DS-I-L-L, because the Discord made me get it,

because they were like, you're wrong about Chrono Trigger on the DS, and I was right about Chrono Trigger on the DS. Don't bully us into making any more purchases. I'll do it. I went to like a... I don't even... Anyway, it doesn't matter.

2010s, we start blurring the line between consoles and handhelds. The Nintendo 3DS comes out in 2011, which featured glasses-free 3D technology and backward compatibility with DS games. It expands with models like the 3DS XL and the 2DS, spoken about earlier. And then the PlayStation Vita, 2011 in Japan, 2012 worldwide, Sony successor to the PSP with a high resolution OLED screen in 2011, motherfuckers. Dual analog sticks,

son of a bitch, and touch capabilities, and somehow it fucking fails again. The thing, well. Did you ever get a Vita? Yes, and I was playing the Uncharted game on there for a little while. What the fuck is happening? That system is so good.

It's so good, it's fantastic. The thing that I think it excels at is Being a portable PlayStation 2 so the games that are ported from PlayStation 2 you know the Jack and Daxter games, it's like Cooper games the The first two fucking God of War games run great on it. Yeah And then you know some of the other games on there vice city great on it. Yeah. And then some of the other games on there. Vice City is on it, isn't it? Vice City, yeah.

There's great games for it like that. I feel like some of the standalone games for it, it's a software thing again, where it doesn't feel, like that Uncharted game is fun, but it's not that good. I wish the Vita had launched with Astro Bot. I mean, yeah, if I could go in a time machine and have Astro Bot around sooner in my life,

I think things would probably just be a little bit better overall. The 3DS ends up fucking stomping the Vita. And for Sony fans like myself, it was a crushing blow to my, it buried me in my own grave. Cause like, I mean, the thing about the 3DS that is so great is that it's possibly, it's just like possibly one of the most perfect handheld. Like, I mean, I should show you this 2DS one.

It's so good. This is so much better. This is nicer than the Vita, like, or not nicer necessarily, but it's more functional. Can you imagine a science fiction world where? And you can hack a Vita pretty easily as well. Like, for whatever reason, aliens show up

and they forcibly make it so that we are not allowed to develop any new technology. Okay? Here's the thing. I'm going to stop you right there. I'm in. No more. And it happens in, like they're like, you can make TV shows.

No. You can make movies. You can make everything. What about songs? You can make new songs, but you have no new tech. You are locked in the tech of our era and they land in Let's say 2013. Yeah, and we have and we have like

12 years of 3ds games and 11 years of PlayStation Vita games Fuck that would be crazy. Yeah, we'd probably at least have a couple of good ones by now. Yeah, god damn it! I do like the way it looks. That OLED screen is really like, is the whole thing. But the

back pad, there's a... Fucking back pad's stupid. It's stupid, but it's good. Like the back of the console is a touch pad. And you can use it to interact with menus and like the games By touching the back of it There's not a good way to feel like you're doing it

No, it's it's it's a weird it feels like somebody had a spreadsheet and they were like it needs to have a touch screen on the back and everyone's like, okay not to Pull back the curtain on our show too much. It's a very dug at choice to pull back the curtain on our show too much, it's a very dug-et choice. Yeah. It's like, they heard about the touchscreen and somebody in the room was like, oh, what if they touched the back and it moved?

That sucks. I wish it was more, I wish it had a little bit more of a library. Yeah. Because I do think, like I said, those ports are great. Like they play really well. It's a good way to, it's a good way to experience those. I feel like you don't lose that much.

I have, you know, a substantial video game collection and most of my cabinets are like, oh, it's the super Nintendo cabinet on top and the Sega Genesis cabinet on the bottom, right? Like it's like split cabinets. One entire cabinet is handhelds. I love handhelds. I was thinking about this when we were coming up with this.

I have so many handhelds. So many. Just like just in over the years of just doing the show, like I didn't have a Vita. I like bought a Vita in the last couple of years. Yep I now have three versions of the 2ds or you know that I have two versions of the 2ds and my 3ds And now they're like niche ones that are like not of any particular Yeah

They're not a large Ecosystem yeah, where it's like the retro Pocket 2 Plus, which is like a pocket emulator that I have. Yep. There's the other one. I have too many of these. It's called the Anbernic RG35XXXSP. It looks like a Game Boy Advance SP, but it's a pocket emulator.

That's too many letters and numbers. It's too many, but I have it. I have the playdate, which we both have. Well, we've skipped a major release. What is that? The Nintendo Switch. Oh, well, yes, of course. Which destroys...

For a moment, they're making the 3DS and the Switch. Yeah. And they're trying to say, no, they're two separate systems. And then somebody at Nintendo is like, what are we fucking doing? Bring the 3DS out back and put a bullet in its head. We have to just be focusing on the Switch. And the Switch is on the verge of

maybe overtaking the PlayStation 2 as the most successful game system of all time. Yes, and I do think that's why we're not getting the Switch 2. You think it's just because they want to beat the PlayStation 2? I think they want to do it. I think they were like, as soon as we announce Switch 2, Switch 1 sales stop. I don't know if that's true because the PlayStation 3 came out and they were still selling PS2s in like Like all over the fucking world

Where where people couldn't get the PS3 right away? Yeah, I guess I mean As soon as they announce a switch to you. I'll tell you what i'm buying a switch light Don't you don't have a switch light I did but then I traded it but then I traded it in when I upgraded to OLED. Oh, okay. I upgraded to OLED, but I had the Switch Lite, and I loved it, and I preferred it, honestly. I should have kept it.

If they made a OLED Switch Lite, that would be like one of my ideal gaming devices. Oh yeah, I almost bought the Zelda one, just because it's gold, and I was like, this is kind of funny. Pretty nice. It is really nice, maybe I'll get it. They're very available. Yeah, yeah. So then it's gold. And I was like, this is kind of funny. Pretty nice. It is really nice. Maybe I'll get it. They're very available.

Yeah. So then it's the 2020s, and we come to the aforementioned Playdate, released in 2021, developed by Panic. It was a black and white screen and mechanical crank as controller input, offering a curated selection of indie games. I also have a Playdate. Yes. I don't play it. Um, I

Think it's just a question of time and saturation. I think so too, you know, and it's not like a it's I know that there are games Being developed for it and being released for it. I'd say pretty regularly Yeah, there's not That many that I'm like interested in But I'll pick it up every now and then. Like that Lucas Pope game that came out earlier this year, I was interested in that, gave that a shot, bounced off of it. To me, that's not like a game comes out for I have to finish this game.

It's more like, wow, I can't believe that this exists. This is really, really cool. Except for that game Bloom that I was obsessed with and I absolutely loved. But I know that they just announced a season two of their... Play dates? Of play date.

Season, what I mean by that is when you bought a play date, you were guaranteed a game every single month or something like that, every couple weeks of the season, and you would get a new game delivered straight to your device with that same regularity for however long it was. And they're doing another season of that. Which is-

That's fantastic. Which I'm like, just keep funding it somehow where that happens and I'll check out those games as they release, absolutely. 2022 is the Valve Steam Deck release year. Yeah. Which is, I don't think it's the first portable PC, but it's certainly the first popular portable PC.

Yeah. It's Valve's entry into handheld gaming. The Steam Deck runs PC games from the Steam library, featuring a powerful hardware and a customizable Linux-based OS. The Valve Steam Deck also just announced a white edition. And god damn it, it looks so beautiful. And I'm like, should I get it?

And then I'm like, why would I pay a premium for a two-year-old handheld gaming device, especially when there's like the Asus Rug Alley, or whatever the fuck ally yeah alley ally um The thing about it that makes me mad and I was saying this to you before we got started recording yeah Is that I feel like? early adopters or who are typically enthusiasts are

often punished when the nicer ones come out later. Like with the analog pocket, yeah I would have liked one of these fucking clear ones, one of these colored clear ones, like my childhood. Do you know that for a while there was one company that was doing the opposite to its customers and that's Sony.

The launch PS3 has a lot more shit that you could do with it than the PS3s that follow. The launch Vita has an OLED screen. Like the launch PSP has a better build quality than the PSPs that follow, although the PSP Go is an incredibly gorgeous machine. I know, I was just looking at that. So if you spent the money up front

to be an early adopter of these Sony devices, you were rewarded because they'd be like, well, we took away the Linux, we took away the cartridge slots to be able to look at your photos on the TV, we took away backwards compatibility with PlayStation 2 games, we took, like they take all this stuff away.

So if you have the launch PS3 that weighs as much as a car, you're like, oh, I have the best version of this. But lately I would say that like the PS4 Pro is better than the PS4, and the PS5 Pro is better than the PS5. So they are starting to get into that same upgrade cycle where they're not stuffing everything they can into their launch machine.

Which is, breaks my heart a little because I liked when Sony would be like, you know, it comes with, like what's something that, it would be like if they announced now like, and the PlayStation 6 has an iPhone dock built into the front of the machine, you'd be like, what? So that you can use your iPhone on your control,

like some insane thing, you'd be like, this is never going to work and nobody's going to use it. No, and when stuff has built-in technology from a particular time, it's immediately obsolete. It's just like, it's always like, that's gonna change. I had a TV for the longest time before I had the TV that I have now that did have an iPod dock in it.

And the little flap didn't work anymore, so it was just always out and I hated seeing it. Cause I was like, I don't even, I haven't had an iPod that could fit this I think ever Gosh but the thing about these handhelds now that come out oh in the analog pocket We didn't we didn't touch in the analog pocket, which is uh What my favorite current? Handheld device yeah, I would say so as well apart from this 2ds that I have of course the analog pocket is

An enthusiast handheld. It's not for everybody, but it plays original hardware It plays it plays game gear games Gameboy games Gameboy advanced games With an adapter. I think it plays Is it play Neo Geo pocket? Yes. And then it has all of- TurboGrafx-16 as well. Yeah, and then it has all of the emulators built, or the emulation technology in it, the FPGA, FGPA,

that allows you to load really, really high quality emulators into the machine, so you could say play Chrono Trigger on it, but be playing a Super NES version of Chrono Trigger on your handheld pocket. Yes, and I absolutely love it. I played Chrono Trigger on that. And it has a dock for the television.

Which I also got, and I really, really love, have not used it since I played Chrono Trigger on the TV though. I will complain in this day, complain until they release it. I really love, have not used it since I played Chrono Trigger on the TV though. But I- I will complain in this day, complain until they release it. Those motherfuckers said they were releasing a software upgrade that allowed you to play that dock on a CRT.

And I was like, this is only for me. Yes. And god damn it, they haven't released it. They gotta put it out. The thing about handhelds now, like I was saying, they're not, for the most part, they're just not like to a dedicated like console or like you know like they're not like there's not a Sony handheld anymore. There's the portal of course which is not really a handheld

because it's like it is but it's not. It's a streaming handhelds It's a dumb device in a way yes because it doesn't work if you don't have a Wi-Fi connection Yeah, and you know there's other ones that are like that There's a camera what it's called there's one like that for the Xbox, but it's not actually for the Xbox But it does do it, but Xbox is apparently working on a handheld Yeah, they announced I think today that a few years from now They are going to release an Xbox handheld which surprised me because announced, I think today, that a few years from now, they are going to release an Xbox handheld, which surprised me,

because I did not think that Xbox would be around in a few years. It's like, wow, that brand is gonna be still sticking in? We'll see. But the ones that come out now are more niche devices, and they're also, I would put them in this category of things that I don't need.

Like I don't, I have a bunch of these. I have three different ways, four if you count my Vita that is also dual boots, a PSP ecosystem. I could play Chrono Trigger five different ways. Don't need to, don't need it. And they keep making these, they keep making these other handheld PCs that are interesting, like you were saying,

like the ROG Ally or like... Isn't there like a Lenovo device that allows you to play Xbox Game Pass? Like Game Pass, yes. Yeah. There's that one. There's this other one that... I don't need it. I don't need any of I don't need any of these

I don't have time to play our we play you play no when the fuck am I gonna have time to play any of this? Before I got this 3ds the Ionio flip DS is a Is a handheld PC that has two fucking screens, and it's huge. It's the size of a Steam Deck basically. It's huge, but it costs like $800. Why does it, what is it, what do you need two screens on a handheld device other than emulating DS games? That's it, kind of.

But I'm like, I don't need, I can't justify this. That's insane. The thing is, it's- An $800 DS emulator, just get a DS. It's gorgeous though. It is Yeah, can you show me a picture of it? Holy shit It looks so nice, but it's not necessary at all it looks like it looks like something from thx 113

It looks like something from a from a dystopian future where they're like your pill has arrived in the mail take your pill. So the one without the two screens is $800 if you want one with the two screens it costs almost $1200. Citizen enjoy your pill. That's a crazy device. Yeah I don't know who it's for. I don't know who it's for. I don't know who it's for, and I'm, I think, the target audience. Yeah, because it's like, I mean, it's a PC,

so you could play your Steam library, the Epic Games Store, probably on there too, but like, I have a Steam deck that I also don't use as much as I'd like. I don't, the only time I have to play a portable game now is to drag my finger across the screen once a day to open a fake Pokemon deck. But like, that's what I miss about Dedicated Handhelds is that the experiences were fuller.

They weren't just, you know, I'll play this for a few minutes and put it down. Like they were like full games. Like they're just, you know, they were just not as, at the same scale. That's why I liked having a Game Boy Advance and a PlayStation 2. Because the valleys between those two were so different that the experiences felt completely separate,

but rewarding at the same time. I'm gonna feel really depressed when all of our computing is in our glasses. Yeah. And our games are no longer tactile. Yeah. I know that there are still games that you can play in say the Vision Pro by holding a controller in your hands,

but who's gonna, I mean, maybe people are going to bring when we have these AR devices in glasses and we're sitting on the subway train, maybe they'll bring a controller in their bag and you'll just play like a 300 inch version of Call of Duty on a virtual screen. Maybe, but I feel like we have these gaming, my cell phone can play Death Stranding.

Yeah. I'm not playing Death Stranding on my cell phone. No, because phone, phone has to be separate. It can't be, there's, I can't accept that it would be an all in one sort of thing. Like the idea that you would be an all-in-one sort of thing. Like the idea that you could be fighting

the fucking guy from Death Stranding, the bad guy. The bad guy. I can't even remember what his name is. Oilface. Oilface. You could be like running from a BT. Yep, and then get a phone call? And then get a phone call?

Duck. No thanks. No way. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, if you had to say, Heather, what is your all-time favorite handheld? Oh, man. You know, the contrarian in me wants to be like, it's the PlayStation Vita, but there's no way it's the fucking Vita because there I

Carried that system around Wishing something would happen in it like that. It would like something would happen, right? Yeah, I Think for longevity just for for the the impact it's had on my life longevity, just for the impact it's had on my life, for the fact that I'm still playing games on it, it's the Game Boy Advance. Yeah, it's a pretty good case for it. I wish that this 2DS LL XL had a Game Boy Advance slot. Losing the Game Boy Advance slot on the 3ds was brutal Yeah, because you can play DS games on this you don't need a second slot for that. Yeah

If this had The slot for it. It'd be a all-timer for me So you get then all three of the best handheld generations in one in one Incredible device yeah, there's a nice slot right here that has that's where your games go and an SD card goes that's how I'm running this whole bad boy right there, but There's space for a Gameboy Advance cartridge somewhere in here. They just didn't do it. What's your what's your answer Matt? one one handheld console and that's the only one you get to you get to use. It's tough because I love the analog pocket so much but that's like that's a niche device it's not gonna get me anything

Pick the pocket. Yeah, I thought we were meant. I thought we meant like the dedicated No, if I can pick anything, it's the pocket. Yeah, the pocket is so nice looking It's incredible and the battery life on it is insane. Yeah. Yeah, it's the pocket But I think it's the pocket. Okay. Okay. It's a little pocket, but if it no if it's like an original release system You know, I've only had this for a couple months the 2ds XL. Yeah, and 2ds LL. I gotta say I've said several times while playing it to my wife and to others This is one of my favorite things that I own it is unbelievable to me Wow because the I It's it's bigger than the 3ds right the screen is huge comparatively yeah

It's crisp. It looks nice. It's like not as big as the switch of course. It's not as big as a switch light even Yeah, but it's big enough where? you know I'm wearing glasses. I need I need a slightly larger screen on some of these things now. And that it's so easy to mod and have all the games that you already own on it on there. And so that's just convenient. And so I think I'm gonna have to say,

it's this, the 2DS XL right here. Have you played, I think you haven't played contact. No you should Borrow my copy of contact. Yeah, wink wink and that's on the Something your I think on the on the DS. Yeah, it's on the DS. Okay, you should borrow my copy Yeah, and load it into your 2ds and play contact on that machine I'll check it out because it's a greatDS and play contact on that machine. I'll check it out. Because it's a great game and very, very unique. It has on each screen an entirely different graphic style.

I'm listening, yeah, I'll check it out. That sounds cool. Which I don't know why more people didn't do. Cause that really unique presentation. Yeah. I'll check it out. Cause yeah, I mean, I like the games from this generation. Because I feel like this is like I had a Game Boy Advance.

I had a Game Boy Color. But this is, I feel like, from DS onward was like when I really locked in. Yeah. There's like a lot of stuff from this generation that I, and like, you know, it's the funniest, shittiest way to play Metal Gear Solid 3. Like, I'll do that anytime you know it's weird

Also that I said Gameboy Advance because I'm positive that I have more DS games than I have Gameboy Advance games on my shelf Yeah, I know I'm thinking about my Gameboy Advance and the games that I loved were like Donkey Kong Country like games that weren't necessarily for it. Right. Right. Or the Pokemon games that came out for it. Yeah, yeah. Ruby.

Maybe, fuck. Am I dumb? Is it the DS? Oh, wait. No, maybe, wait, hold on. Am I dumb? What? Oh, no. We're dumb. We're dumb.

Is it the DS? I don't know. It's either the Game Boy Advance or the DS. Ranch, I know that you wouldn't call yourself a capital G gamer necessarily, but you dabble in games. Did you ever have a handheld gaming device? You ever have a Game Boy or something? Okay. Nice.

Wow, what did you have on your DS? And what kind of dog was it? I mean, you could not have had a more alpha answer to that. I got a DS just so I could play Nintendogs. Fucking hell, man. That's insane. God damn. I had Nintendogs. I told a story before. I wanted it. I expressed wanting it in front of my friends in high school who were all mean and they all made fun of me for like

An entire year that I wanted nintendogs and then my birthday came around and they all chipped in and they bought me a copy And then nintendogs and then made fun of me for liking it. I Never played nintendogs. It's not really a game right would you say it's more like a You kind of just pet them and clean them and give them a toy and treat Yes Do you think that it became popular or do you think that the game exists because somebody just was at? Nintendo headquarters just writing the word Nintendo over and over again and at some point just wrote oh, yes Yeah, and then they hey hey hey they made the ass

You had a G to Nintendo yeah, it becomes an intend dog kind of surprised. It's not Still part of their their whole thing yeah, yeah, it's a could have been an intend dogs for the switch Why not for the Wii like like laser pointing like fucking Lasers at the screen and the dog chases it around. I wonder if there's a stat we could look up not today But at some point of how many TVs were broken from playing the Wii like when people just chucking the from playing the Wii like when people just chucking the

The we know I wonder yeah, there must be a stat available for that. Yeah Matt how do you feel about our conversation about handhelds that we had to kind of um Just like hit the ground running because Nick is on trial I'd say we slapped together a pretty good topic a topic that I think means a lot to us and you know, I Think good one for us in particular because as far as I know Nick didn't have a handheld until the game boy advanced Interesting interesting not that that's a lot of years cover. We kind of talked about that exact period of time For most of it, but I think I you know, I think of the handheld I think we're the handheld twins with the handheld twins Yeah, I have not told this story on the on the on the

Pod before but you know I had the game gear because again. I was second-pilled as a child. Yeah, and My parents bought me Mortal Kombat for Christmas on the Game Gear. That's huge. And to be able to play Mortal Kombat on the go was, one, crazy. And on the Game Gear, two, terrible. Yeah.

Very, very, very, very bad version of the game. But I only got, like like one game at a time and like had to like show my parents that not only did I appreciate and have immense gratitude for that game, but generally I would try and beat it because that's the only excuse I would have to my parents to ask for another game.

They'd be like, well, did you finish that one? Yeah. Finishing Mortal Kombat on the Game Gear was like asking me to build a space station on Earth. Like it was so hard. And we would take these road trips every weekend, these eight hour road trips, four hours up, four hours back. And I would play Mortal Kombat nonstop

with my Game Gear plugged into the cigarette lighter of my dad's old mobile. Yeah. And just trying over and over and over again to beat Mortal Kombat on the Game Gear. Why do I feel like that would destroy a car now? You know what I mean? I feel like cars are so like,

if you leave the little headlamp, or the little lamp above, that's built into the roof on overnight, your car's just dead forever, that sucks. It just drains it all night, and that's it? Yeah, it's crazy to me that when I was driving my Datsun, the way that I would charge my phone was the cigarette lighter. I burned my thumb on that one time.

And it was honestly the worst pain I've ever felt and the gnarliest thing I've ever seen. And it did not smell good. Oh my God. The smell of burning flesh. Oh no. Minone. Smell good. Oh my god The smell of burning flesh. Oh, no Mine own did you put your thumb in it? How would you burn your thumb?

Well, let me tell you that I was 22 years old not the age I expected this story to take much older I had taken it out because I was like I've never taken this out before what even is it and then I like pulled it out, maybe I pushed it in first, because it has to get hot. Yeah. I pushed it in and I was like, I better pull that out. And I pulled it all the way out,

and then thumbed it on accident. Oh! I want to defamiliarize, I mean maybe- Talk about handheld. How crazy is it that cars used to come with ashtrays and fire starting devices kind of shocking that there wasn't like a place to put a gun like That is gun shape like a holster for your gun It's what it would be like, but this is the iPod dock of its time

Yeah, because everybody smoked at that time. Yeah. But also it's like 30 years of everybody smoking. Yeah. So like cars for like 30 years come with cigarette lighters and the crazy fucking thing. It's like if you were, if there was a vape juice dispenser in a car, like in your Tesla,

if there was a button that dispensed vape juice. But now my car has a little flap where that thing would go, but it's not a cigarette lighter. It is for chargers like that. Yeah, it's a USB. Yeah, very weird. Very weird.

["Skyrim 2.0 Remake"] How about we do a segment real quick? Holy shit, let's go! It's time for the question block. These are all sourced from our Discord, discord.gg slash get played. Let's get into it. This first one is from Alice Destroy. Oh, Alice Destroy is a great name.

Thanks Alice. If you can have any video game creature as a pet, what would you have? Apartment sized and house sized? Wait, what? That's like the size of the creature. You can give two answers. One would be like if you lived in an apartment, what kind of video game creature would you want? Oh, I thought they meant like a creature the size of an apartment or the creature. I was like... Both too big. Yeah. Yeah, I okay And you have a little dog so like I feel like you're not necessarily somebody who's trying to have a big pet Yeah, let me think

Appadok if you have an answer to this ahead of time well of course I would want a Pokemon of course which one I Mean it's kind of basic, but I wouldn't mind having a little Pikachu It'd be great to have a Pikachu. It'd be fun. My phone would be charged all the time If I mean it's kind of basic but I wouldn't mind having a little Pikachu running around. It would be great to have a Pikachu. It'd be fun. My phone would be charged all the time. If Trubbish didn't stink, which I'm pretty certain he does, having a Trubbish would be great. You know, I'm just gonna go ahead and say. Do I say it? What are you saying?

What the original topic for this episode was gonna be? Yes, go ahead. Wait, no, your first pitch. The first pitch. Not Nick's pitch, which is- What was Nick's? Nick's is the idea, we're not gonna talk about Nick's idea because it's so fucking good.

Okay, I forgot, I forgot, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was really good. But you can say what your initial pitch was when Nick was like, I can't come. It was going to be like a Pokemon thing. Yeah. We were going to talk about the current state of Pokemon. And then I got self-conscious about it.

Self-conscious. A little nervous. But I did learn something about Pokemon. Not necessarily about Pokemon, but the idea of Pokemon. I saw it on TikTok. What is it? Somebody was saying people complain about the new gen, like the new- the new Pokemon

that come out. Like not the games but like the new designs of the Pokemon. Okay. You know how some of them will be like strawberries and cream and keys and a sword and a shield or whatever. Yep. An inanimate object, a bag of trash. Yep. An inanimate object, a bag of trash. But I guess there's this concept, this Japanese concept,

where if something exists for long enough, be it an inanimate object, an idea, or some kind of being even, but the idea of it being an inanimate object. If an inanimate object exists for long enough, it becomes, it has a soul. Like the, and I was like, that's really interesting. And I never really, I didn't know that.

So now when I see a Pokemon being like a fucking baguette or whatever, I'm like, ah, that's fine. That like makes sense. Those have existed for a long time. That's good. I think this is good. That's great. Yeah, I love that.

So obviously a Pokemon being the answer, I wouldn this is good. That's great. Yeah, I love that. So obviously a Pokemon would be the answer. I wouldn't mind having Torgl, because Torgl's just like a big dog. Do you want my Torgl? I don't have space for it. I'm moving and I'm not taking him with me. You're gonna throw Torgl away? Or sell him on eBay, do you want Torgl?

I'll take Torgl. My wife's gonna be mad, but I will take Torgal. Merry Christmas. You just got Torgal. Torgal! The big one. The small one I can't give you because my dog thinks it's her dog. Okay, well I want the small one. No, you get the big one. I want the one your dog chewed up.

She doesn't chew. How big? How big? How big the big one? This big. I think I can get away with it. I picked up a pillow off the couch. I think I can get away with it. He's wearing the bracelet.

Pretty good. I'm going to wear the bracelet. And I think he's probably still got his tag on him that he came with. He's never, like, I got him and I put him on a shelf and that was it. Like, he's never done anything. You think he's going to scare my cat Bonnie? I hope so. I think he's probably still got his tag on him that he came with.

He's never, like, I got him and I put him on a shelf and that was it. Like, he's never done anything. You think he's going to scare my cat Bonnie? I hope so. I think he's probably still got his tag on him that he came with. He's never, like, I got him and I put him on a shelf and that was it. Like, he's never done anything. You think he's going to scare my cat Bonnie? I hope so. I think he's probably still got his tag on him that he came with. He's never, like, I got him and I put him on a shelf

and that was it, like he's never done anything. You think he's gonna scare my cat Bonnie? I hope so. Scared the shit out of my dog. She stopped moving. Do you have a video game creature that you wanna have inside your home? Again, if Trubbish doesn't stink, Trubbish.

But if Trubbish does stink, boy, Pikachu would be great, man. It's hard to top Pikachu. He's kind of funny too. He's funny, he's mischievous, he's got a lot of personality, he's helpful sometimes. He likes to have a little relaxing time in like a little inner tube. Yeah, he likes to drink like with a straw.

I think it's Pikachu. Pikachu's pretty good. Yeah, Pikachu's the best. This next one's from Cameron C. Hi Cameron C What type of transportation options available in video games? Do you wish you could use for your daily commute will fast travel obviously? Okay, I have an answer please If you want to ride your sword like in metaphor? No, no, I was gonna say,

if they would respawn with the same frequency as in the game, riding a horse to work and then shooting it in the head. Yeah, and then come out and the horse is fine. Yeah, it'd be incredible. Oh my God. You know, I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind not just a go-kart, a Mario Kart.

There's a difference. Great answer. It has a glider built into it. It has those little hover ones. One of those awesome cars from Cyberpunk 2077? Yeah, the ones that fall out of the sky and crush you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. fall out of the sky and crush you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, let's, hold on. I have to have a serious answer for this. It's any video game, read the question one more time so I get the parameters. What type of transportation options available in video games do you wish you could use for your daily commute? Just came up with another one. You know in Red Dead Redemption,

you can either do the traversal, or you can press B or whatever and it'll just kind of do it for you. I want a do it for you option. That's good, that's good. Autopilot. I have an answer. In Fortnite season, two seasons ago, there was a sword, which when you drew the sword would launch you into the air and give you fall, like absorb any fall damage.

You could sheath and draw the sword three times in the air. So it'd be like if I was standing on this block and could pull the sword three times and would be like five blocks away when I landed. And it made a great sound. I want that sword. That's pretty good. That's one of my favorite traversal items

in the history of gaming. I like it. Is that fucking sword. And also you can use it as a sword. Hey, that's even better. This next one is from Hello Brian. Hello Brian. Or actually excuse me, Hello Brain. Hello Brain writes. Hello Brain. Mixed up two of the letters there. Hey hello to my brain. How about? Good grief. Hello Brain writes, I had

a dream I saw Matt Apodaca eating gas station pizza. How often do you eat gas station pizza? Hold on, I'm a dumb idiot. I need to answer that question one more time. Yeah, please. But keep all my answers in so that people know how stupid I am. It's the fucking portal gun.

Oh yeah, absolutely. That's the answer. And you can do it where you shoot, there's no stairs. Yeah. So there's a platform up there. You're you you're doing it like that you can you could also for me? Fly the gun to Amsterdam Drop a portal on on on the wall Fly back to LA and drop a portal here. Do the portals do you think they have like time? Like not in the game.

They don't stay up. Yeah. So I can just create a fucking door in my house that goes to Amsterdam. Fuck fuck. I wouldn't even have a house here. I think no, it would just be like on a wall. I would just have it. I would have it like here in the office. It's an issue of national security doesn't it? well Sure, but I'd have I'd be in a secret place and I would just finish work walk through the portal and be in Amsterdam It's the fucking portal gun because also then I could be like you know what I want to live in Japan for a while Then go there. Yeah. Yeah, it's a portal gun. I like it. I like that's the best answer All of other answers were bullshit. Yeah dumb answers fuck the sword so hello brain. I brain they had a dream about me Eating gas station pizza, and they want to know if I do I ever eat gas station pizza, and I'm gonna tell you right now

the answer is no I Don't never eat in gas station pizza? I can't say that I have. I think a hot dog to me is a safer bet. Not safer, more reliable. I've eaten so much gas station pizza in my life. To me the pizza always looks so bad to me that I just know that even a bad hot dog I'm going to be just fine with. I'll get a hot dog.

So much gas station pizza. So many nights, leaving the RIP, the satellite in Silver Lake, going to the 7-Eleven that's right there, getting a hot dog, walking back to one of my friends' place just out of our minds, eating a hot dog, going to sleep on my friend's couch. In infinity. Shout out, Connor.

Finishing a show at UCB and eating pizza at the 7-Eleven on Wilton. Infinity time. Wow. If you were to create a montage of it, I bet it would last 20 minutes of me just having slices of that fucking pizza. For some reason, I've just never been compelled

and I like pizza, I love it. I was drunk, I don't know why I was, I'm not making choices. I went straight to Hot Dog. One time a guy at a 7-Eleven was like, you should buy a whole pizza. He like tried, the guy behind the counter was like, they had a bunch of them.

Excellent choice by that man. He said, you should buy a whole pizza. And I was like, oh no, I don't need a whole pizza and I was like oh no I don't I don't need a whole pizza it was like the middle of the day it's like three dollars though and he was like don't you have a girlfriend that wants pizza or something what the fuck yeah he was like yeah but like I'm not gonna bring home a 7-ele pizza. And then I was like, leave me alone. And he left me alone. Yeah.

This next one, Postmodern Martyr writes. Okay, Postmodern, modern, modern, Martyr? Martyr, Martyr, Martyr. What killed Game Genie and Game Shark? I think I have an answer for this. Okay. I have two answers.

Answer away. Games just don't have cheats in them anymore. Like there's not a place to input cheats in games, like even on like a cheats menu to turn on like, well, because like now there are some things that are like put in like an accessibility tab, which is good. Like the idea of like turning, having unlimited ammo or like turning off Or you're turning on? Player invulnerability and things like that that stuff is typically if there is that in a game It's in an accessibility tab, which is good

I think there aren't game like there aren't cheats to like unlock Secret costumes or stuff because those that stuff is usually behind a micro transaction now or like an earned in-game thing or there's like a There's not like a big head mode where you need to cheat like that or whatever The other thing I think killed it is Those things don't exist anymore because of online play and games always being online Right so like you can't have there's not a way to probably sort out Who's using cheats and who's not that's why they're all this like anti cheat stuff that like I guess is a problem or something

Yeah And I think that's just why they don't exist anymore Yeah, I mean people are still using like aimbot on fortnight. You know, they're they're still playing games with cheats enabled I would say that the the thing that killed the game genie the game shark more than anything was the switch to CD Pack like it's I think it was probably harder to load. Yeah that kind of code toggling into the memory of a machine that didn't have access to that memory. Like the PlayStation doesn't have, like, where would you put a Game Genie?

Like conceptually, how would you get the information into the machine? Gosh. Disk swapping? Oh, I remember that that's how it was, I think, for the PlayStation 2. I think my uncle had like a GameShark or a GameGenie or something like that where you'd have to open the disk tray while that screen was on and then put the game in and close it and then it would load from there or something like that. I think that, yeah, those are the, those are the way, I think that that is the problem.

It's like snapping Mario into a Game Genie and then snapping the Game Genie into your Nintendo, you're done. The idea of like fumbling with a disc mid-screen, like that's, it's- Even on a Switch it would be hard because that little flap doesn't go down all the way or doesn't completely get out of the way.

And like, I mean, when I had one for, I had an action replay, which was like a separate thing, same, similar concept. And I would only do it so I could put whatever Pokemon I want in the game. Like capture whatever Pokemon I want in the gate like capture whatever Pokemon I want yeah, like you know catch a Charmander and then have a Charmander when I picked Squirtle as my Starter and I can have Charmander and Squirtle. Yeah, do something like that. Yeah, and then just go from there and then have like

99 master balls or something and just go about the game like that Those are my answers. And then finally, with Dragon Ball, this one's from Squash Pockets. Hi Squash. With Dragon Ball Sparkling Zero out, anime fighting games are back in the zeitgeist. What anime that doesn't already have one, would you want a fighting game for? Who would be your main? And so I've been thinking about this question actually. Oh shit.

There needs to be a Super Smash Brothers but anime? You should be able to be Dragon Ball Z versus Jujutsu Kaisen. You should be able to be Jujutsu Kaisen versus Chainsaw Man. Isn't there one? I don't know. If there is, I want it. Isn't there a Jump Superstars? Isn't that what it's called? Oh, I don't know if there is I want it. Isn't there a jump superstars isn't that what it's called? Oh I don't know. Yeah there is this kind of. But why isn't it more popular? More popular and why isn't it bigger? This is an insane pull by the way, because as far as I can tell,

there is one and it is Jump Superstars and it is a 2D crossover fighting game for the Nintendo DS. All right, look man, I'm just living my life, okay? I don't know what's happening in my brain. Oh, there's Jump Ultimate Stars also, which is also for the Nintendo DS. So yeah, they did it. Why isn't it... Why aren't they doing it now?

There should be 50 of these. There should be... You should be able to play anime superstars and have it be a fucking Smash-style fighting game. That's a great idea. Why doesn't that exist? That being said, a fighting game for an anime that doesn't currently exist... I mean, do I answer Evangelion because it's funny no, uh, do I answer death note because it's funny no Naruto already has pretty good fighting games and they are they are pretty good. I

Don't know man, do you have a do you have an answer wait There's another one called J stars victory. I'm a dumb idiot. Here's my answer a 2d Gundam fighting game where you're playing as the mechs. Yeah, absolutely. That's my answer. That's pretty good I like it. I think I mean look make Make what I said., make what I said. Yeah, make what Matt said. And you can do, just give me one for free. I don't need the money from it.

Actually, dude, it was gonna make millions and millions of dollars. I'll take, all you have to do is give me $5 million and then the idea is yours. Like make Marvel versus Capcom 2 or Marvel versus Capcom 3 but all Jump fucking anime have you messed with the? What the Marvel versus Capcom 2 re-release no?

We gotta talk about I messed with it a little bit. What is it bad? Why you know it's good, but I'm bad It seems good. That's this week's Get Played. Okay. Man, I always fuck this up. God damn it. God damn it. Leave this in, Ranch. Fuck.

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