Get Played - Mario Paint

Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Oh guys, I'm so excited about this week's podcast. I really love this game, Mario Paint. I'm so excited we're covering it. Yeah, me too. It's been super fun. You guys enjoying it? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I love it. I love the original original I've still got that mouse pad. I'm still got the mouse

Starting point is 00:00:29 I've still got a box. I like I dug that out. It's super fun. And also I've been I've been eating eating the tie-in food That is so is great. Like I you know, it's been it's been awesome I'm like it's fully immersed in Mario paint tie-in food tie-in food. Yeah, paint You've been eating paint from the game You won't believe this because I thought the game's sold They're not gonna have the tie-in food in stock anymore, but you can go to Home Depot And there's a whole aisle of tie-in paint. There's two Home Depot, and there's a whole aisle of tie-in paint. There's two

Starting point is 00:01:10 Think they stopped making paint Because the game is old it's like I can't get like I don't know demolition man t-shirts anymore because that's so old But imagine if you went to Home Depot, and there's a whole aisle of Demolition man cereal in the same way I couldn't believe it. I went I could I got all the different flavors white brown green Blue I got all the different Imagine that they taste different. Yeah, I would imagine the flavor profile is pretty similar. Are you okay about what?

Starting point is 00:01:43 Like you were just you got paint from Home Depot, and you've just been drinking it Yeah, eating it and yes, I'm fine. I've been playing Mario paint. I got paint open next to me It's like I'm living in 1992 all over again. Don't put that paint away. I don't want you No No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, It's the 90s! Matt, take it from her. It's not the 90s. Grab the pink. Get the pink out. Get the eye from her. Oh, fuck it. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:29 What are you doing? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I can't trust either of you with this shit. Oh, it's so good. Oh, oh, oh. He likes it.

Starting point is 00:02:39 He likes it. It is good. It's really good. I love green. Green is so good. Green is so good. Green is so good. Green is so good. Green is so good. Green is so good. Oh Green green is so good It's so tasty um I gotta piss

Starting point is 00:03:01 In front of us Weirdest choice in front of us. That's the weirdest choice of this entire intro! Yeah, what the fuck, man? I'm sorry. You just pissed in front of us! I'm sorry. You just got kind of pissed. I don't know why that was so inappropriate. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:03:16 I'm fucking gone. No, I just realized how invasive that was. I'm sorry. Hey, it's the 90s. We swap bugs and place barn animals on musical staffs as we dig in on Mario Paint this week on Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Anne Campbell, along with my fellow host, Tiger Weiger.

Starting point is 00:04:01 That's me, Tiger Weiger, here with our third host, Matt Appadaka. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the me, Tiger Weiger, here with our third host, Matt Appadaka. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premier video game podcast where this week we are talking about one of my favorite pieces of Super Nintendo software. Wow. It's fucking Mario Paint.

Starting point is 00:04:17 I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on Mario Paint because I played Mario Paint, I'll save it, but I played Mario Paint back in the day, but I do not have the same nostalgia for it that a lot of people do. And this is my first dalliance with Mario Paint. I had never played it before. All right.

Starting point is 00:04:34 But before we get there, Heather, you went to the UK and saw Oasis. I did, I did. I missed last week's episode because I went to London to see my boys. Across the pond. I went across the pond to see my boys. You left your boys to see your boys.

Starting point is 00:04:51 I left... And we're kind of like... I left my boys... We're kind of like... To see my boys! We're kind of like Liam and Noel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a little.

Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. But... Fuck you, bruv, innit? I like it. I like it. That makes me happy. You decide which one you want to see. I like it. I like it. That makes me happy. Yeah, yeah, just a little. Yeah. But- Fuck you, bruv, innit? I like it. I like it.

Starting point is 00:05:07 That makes me happy. You decide which one that was an impression of. Both of them. Oh, mad for it. Yeah, so I went to Oasis in the UK. I saw them at Wembley and it was, look, I went into it thinking, this is probably going to be a little cringe, it's gonna be these guys who are past their prime, they haven't performed with each other for a long time.

Starting point is 00:05:30 I went in expecting to be like, yeah, it was great. That was not what happened. This concert was the best concert of my life. Wow. They were so fucking on point. You know, Liam has been, the lead singer of Oasis, has been diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease. And so he has been, according to like the tabloids.

Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, which is a, it's like a disease that like impacts your thyroid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. According to the tabloids, which would leap on any opportunity to drag the guy, have been like, Liam hasn't been drinking. according to the tabloids, which would leap on any opportunity to drag the guy, have been like, Liam hasn't been drinking. He has been doing gargling with apple cider vinegar

Starting point is 00:06:12 and honey and turmeric. He is going straight home after each show. He is doing vocal training. And my God did it show in that concert. It was as if you got to see a version of the band where the years 2000 to 2009 never happened. And they went on a totally different trajectory of like increasing strength.

Starting point is 00:06:35 And it was celebratory, it was positive after the show. Like all of the people from the whole fucking 90,000 person stadium were all singing the songs acapella as they walked back to the train all in tandem. And you walked through this sort of like valley, this concrete valley, which was a sort of like a channel that would get you back to the train. And up on top of this valley are the police.

Starting point is 00:07:04 And the police. And the police were also singing. Wow. It was, it was, I can imagine that like, you know, a Taylor Swift concert has the same sort of like, what are you smiling about? I'm nothing, I'm enjoying the story. Fuck you, what are you smiling about?

Starting point is 00:07:18 I'm not doing nothing, I'm just enjoying the story. No, you're not. Nick's probably trying to picture himself enjoying anything. I can't believe it. What? What? Why?

Starting point is 00:07:28 Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? What could that be like? He's fucking sneaking a snack over there. I don't know what he's doing.

Starting point is 00:07:36 I do not trust it. Like a giant, looking over and seeing Nick smiling is unsettling. What's going on I'm, is that he's receiving your unbridled joy of the experience that you had and he's internalizing it and putting it back out. I hope that's what's happening. I'm not sure that is.

Starting point is 00:07:53 It is. So anyway, like a Taylor Swift concert is probably a very positive experience. I haven't been to one. But I know that the people who are there are so happy to be there. But Taylor Swift isn't, I think, also tied to sort of a national pride. And Oasis was sort of the forefront of Brit pops,

Starting point is 00:08:15 like cool Britannia in the 90s, happens in large part because of Oasis, which was like, oh, it's cool to be British again. And so like walking through London, there's storefronts with references to the boys, or like there's a huge Adidas collab where all the Adidas storefronts have got like huge pictures of the boys.

Starting point is 00:08:36 Like in the main square of London, their Times Square, all of the big electric signs are the boys. And then also there are other advertisements from other companies that are references to either the reunion or one of my favorites, there was a Glasses company. And the Glasses company had the slogan, the original, what was it? It was the original antagonists of Blur,

Starting point is 00:09:10 or something like that. Awesome. Oh, that's fun. Which nice reference to the Oasis Blur battle in the 90s. But it was a great fucking show, and I can't believe I get to see them again here in September Yeah, I'm not sure it's gonna be the same sort of religious experience sure was there cuz you know they didn't

Starting point is 00:09:32 Really hit the saturation point here that they did everywhere else on planet Earth It was still big, but like not like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah So yeah, it was uh it was. Also visually a very cool show. Cool. Like graphically on the giant Jumbotrons, really cool. Ended with a huge amount of fireworks. I mean, like, what do you want? What do you want?

Starting point is 00:09:55 Did you see the movie Better Man about Robbie Williams? I didn't, but I know that Oasis hate that guy. Yeah, they kind of have, if you haven't seen it. I haven't. This is the Robbie Williams monkey movie that everyone tells me to see yeah And I the same I hear the same thing from everybody I didn't know Robbie Williams was I thought it looked stupid But someone told me to watch it, and I watched it and it's my favorite movie

Starting point is 00:10:16 Yeah, they had me crying for this complete stranger by the end of this And then but the guys that play Oasis, there's a scene where they're... Bullying him. They're basically bullying him. They're such fucking assholes. It is so funny. But it's like, they're sort of mean in a way that I like,

Starting point is 00:10:38 because they're so funny. They are so funny at bullying. They're so funny that you're sort of like, I think they're right. If you got roasted by them, you're like, yeah, I fucking guessed, you got me. I'm, I got an oatmeal face, you're fucking right. Did they mention ever that they were,

Starting point is 00:10:55 during the show that they stopped down and be like, we used to be mean to this fucking monkey. They didn't, but they did take a shot at London's soccer team on stage. So like, in the middle of all of this, But they did take a shot at London soccer team on stage so like All of this like like just Jubilee yeah at some point Liam was like hey your fucking soccer team sucks And go right into the next song and it was great. I saw a concert at SoFi and that's where the Chargers play here in Los Angeles. And the Rams.

Starting point is 00:11:31 And the Rams. The band Rancid was performing. They opened for the Smash Pumpkins and Green Day. And the lead singer of Rancid goes, Go Raiders. And the whole crowd got so fucking mad. They were so mad. And then they played like their biggest hit

Starting point is 00:11:48 and it was just so funny. Cause then they acted like they had to get back on board. It was great. Yeah, it was just a really truly, I'm so grateful I went. I'm so grateful to my wife. You know, there were 14 million people who tried to get the 1.4 million tickets that were sold. So you have a 10% chance of even getting a ticket.

Starting point is 00:12:14 And my wife's insane luck, we both were refreshing our browsers. Also part of the pre-show, as they're about to take the stage, was like all of these like newspaper articles about like the collapse of the band, and then are they coming back, and all of those newspapers flying, and then one of the things that flashes past

Starting point is 00:12:38 is like the digital queue for trying to get tickets, and like error signs, as everybody's trying to refresh and refresh and I got in line and Mary got in line and my number in line was 90,000 something and hers was 14 because you're randomly placed. Wow. And so we waited as 14,000 people

Starting point is 00:12:59 bought tickets in front of her and then she got our seats and it was fucking amazing Wow incredible Yeah, great. I'm glad you had that experience It seems to have been so meaningful for you, and I knew you're wearing an oasis shirt I've worn an oasis a different oasis shirt every day this week, and I'm not gonna stop for two weeks And I've still got some of my own from prior. I have this really good, this Oasis shirt that's orange from their Japanese tour.

Starting point is 00:13:31 So all of the cities on the back are Japanese cities from back in the day, so one of my prized possessions. But yeah, it was a great time. And that flight allowed me to play some video games. Look, that was a very good point for a segue into what we normally do, which is talk about video games we're playing right now, but I did want to address someone else in the studio

Starting point is 00:13:56 also wearing fresh band merch right after a concert experience that was transformative for them. Our producer, Shel Shan Ranch, wearing a My Chemical Romance Dodgers crossover tee. Yes, and get played hat, and get played hat. Yeah, well you can't not mention the get played hat. Rachelle, you saw My Chemical Romance

Starting point is 00:14:15 at Dodger Stadium twice. I did, I saw both of their LA shows. Fuck yeah. And I say this without any exaggeration and extremely in earnest that this weekend changed my entire life You were telling us a little bit about it yesterday and it sounded Completely nuts. Oh my goodness. Weyyyyyyyy y Paul Russ just walked and then left. Neil Campbell there as well. I heard the Dullaboyz over there!

Starting point is 00:15:09 Thanks Neil and David Miles. Neil Campbell also stopping by. Yeah, I was on a Zoom with them earlier today. So like truly, two hours ago. You never know what's gonna happen at head go Honestly one of the few times people have been here other than us Wait so so a great concert life-changing experience anything particularly notable. There's too much but You told us a clown blew up on stage.

Starting point is 00:15:48 A clown blew up on stage, Gerard Way got stabbed, Gerard Way called for four people to be executed. Um, what else? Life changing. Life changing. And they played the black parade in its entirety. Yeah, they played the first part, they played the Black Parade in its entirety,

Starting point is 00:16:07 which was basically that stage performance part. And then there was an intermission situation, and they came back and they played a bunch of other stuff as themselves for another hour or so. But there's a huge operatic stage musical performance art aspect to the first chunk of the show. Yes. Where they're performing for,

Starting point is 00:16:28 you told us they were performing for a dictator. Yes, the Grand Immortal Dictator. Wow. Who was sitting in the middle of Dodger Stadium in a giant chair, and there was a camera on him while he was eating a Dodger dog. Pretty good. He's usually hanging out at the White House.

Starting point is 00:16:46 We'll be right back. Okay, we're back. I do, I don't know, I know you don't go to a ton of concerts. I'm just like blazing past that. Yeah, I made a sour face to camera, just in case it's a clip. Something has happened within the last, I think, like five to 10 years where you used to go see a concert and it used to just be the band is performing.

Starting point is 00:17:13 That's kind of like all it is that happens. But now I feel like if the band is big enough or like the tour is big enough, it also is like we have to have like a, it has to have like a bit of a show. It has to have, it has to have like a bit of a show it has to have to have to like be Some it has to justify the whatever you know Four digit ticket price that people have to pay because of all the up charges and service fees and the artificial scarcity Yeah, and like some bands do it great. Yeah, sure Don't like like that sounds amazing. I saw Oasis did not do that. No, they didn't need to. The event is the reunion, right?

Starting point is 00:17:47 It's like them doing it at all. But a couple, like, two years ago or something, I saw Weezer and their set was like the dashboard of like a car. And like their big set piece was Rivers going over to like the volume knob and was like, he was like, what if we turn this up? What do you say? And then he like, him like kind of turning it up like a little bit and the

Starting point is 00:18:07 crowd being like, that's not loud enough. That's like that was like the big thing that happened in the show. Live executions at ranches shows like it's crazy. Conscious have gotten crazy. The only live music I really see is jazz and those are usually like more intimate venues and the thing that happens to me at live jazz shows is someone with silver hair will come up to me,

Starting point is 00:18:31 a person who's 44 years old and say, it's great to see some young people out here. And that's why you go so you can hear that once a decade. Watching a guy on stage, like a fucking 80 year old trumpet player with three teeth, to dedicate a song to his good friend who was Count Basie's trombonist, Count Basie who died in 1979. So I saw Earth, Wind and Fire in Chicago like last year, and there was a part where one

Starting point is 00:19:02 of the guys in Earth, Wind and Fire was was introducing the band, and he gets to a part in the band where he, he's like in his 80s. He's not like flat 80, he's not 90, he's like in there, firmly in his 80s. And he goes, and this is my son, and I'm like, oh great, a Nepo baby. And he's like, wait, this guy's like 60 years old. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:20 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I should also mention that Verve was the opening act for Oasis. Oh yeah. Like so like-

Starting point is 00:19:31 Really, yeah. So like Oasis is big enough that Verve was like, you know, we want to support, like we're all coming up at the same time so we want to support. So like the final song of the opening act was Bittersweet Symphony, which in and of itself is a massive hit. Yeah. And like, so like, to start at what would, like normally the opening act is like a layup. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:57 But they ended the opening act at a 10. With like one of the bigger songs. And Oasis came out at like a 15. Yeah. What'd they start with? Hello. That's really cool. with like one of the bigger songs. And Oasis came out at like a 15. Yeah. What'd they start with? Hello. That's really cool. Yeah, good to be back, good to be back.

Starting point is 00:20:12 My chemical romance I know is your favorite band, Rochelle. Yes. Is Oasis your number one? So it's my favorite band, yes. Your favorite band, yeah, okay. My favorite band is Oasis, but I would be, I would be misrepresenting myself if I didn't say that both Kings of Convenience

Starting point is 00:20:28 and Sample Master were not a very close second. I really like those two bands as well. Matt, it's Weezer. It's Weezer with a, I am wearing a band that I really love, Antarctica Vespucci, my friend Chris Farron and his buddy Jeff Rosenstock have a band together and it's just a shirt with Kermit and me speaking on it. It doesn't really make any sense, but I like it.

Starting point is 00:20:51 So we're all wearing merch with our passions. What's the name of the band? Antarctica Vespucci. Antarctica Vespucci, Oasis, Bike Como Romance and then me, nothing. Yeah. I'll have it in plain, please. I also want to say that for me, this was kind of a triumph because I'll have it in plain, please.

Starting point is 00:21:05 I also want to say that for me, this was kind of a triumph because I've seen Oasis once before. I saw them when I was a kid in Chicago, and I think I've told this story on the show before, is that Liam refused to come on stage and just didn't come to Chicago. I don't blame them. It's like I've seen Noel solo and I've seen Liam solo and this was the first time I ever got to see them both on stage together. So for me personally, it was a reunion. As an Oasis fan that had to then like sort of not suffer,

Starting point is 00:21:39 but I guess humor is maybe, maybe that's also rude. You had to experience them separately and then be like, I guess this humor is maybe, maybe that's also rude. You had to experience them separately and then be like, I guess this is fine. Did any of their solo efforts ever like even reach like what you would even consider like a low for Oasis? I thought Liam gave a really good shot. Yeah. Part of what Liam did was he had other people write his songs.

Starting point is 00:22:02 Okay. So he's trying to write, he's trying to get people to write him bangers. And then he had other people write his songs. So he's trying to write, he's trying to get people to write him bangers. And then he had a couple of songs, there was one song that was just a straight shot at Noel that I got a t-shirt of, which was about like, it was a song about like,

Starting point is 00:22:18 why don't we get back together again? And the chorus on it was, you act like you don't remember you said we'd live forever and so that's on a that's one of his pieces of merch from when he was solo and I was like man the guy just won't stop and like a year ago he was on stage and he's like I dedicate this song to my brother who's still not talking to me so yeah it Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. So yeah, it was,

Starting point is 00:22:48 Noel's songs, Noel really wanted to like create new music and new direction, and that was a lot of friction in the late Oasis. Music was that he wanted to do like, you know, transformational songs. And Liam was like, why aren't we only writing songs that would fill a stadium?

Starting point is 00:23:04 Yes. Like that's what we're good at Yeah, so yeah, it was neither of them reached the heights of What was it's certainly in this concert an eight song run at the end that every one of those songs is a number one hit Wow nuts. That's wild. Yeah, I've got to go. It was great Yeah, I've got to go. It was great. Some days, your brain needs a vacation your body can actually afford. That's where Indicloud comes in. You juggle the chaos. You answer the emails. You even go outside sometimes. So yeah, you've earned a better way to unwind.

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Starting point is 00:27:29 The link is in the podcast episode description box. NordVPN slash get played. ["The Game Changer Theme"] All right, we should talk about some video games. Fuck video games. F*** video games! The question for the room is, what are you playing? What are you playing? What are you playing?

Starting point is 00:27:50 I'm back. I'm back. Great to have you back, Resident Evil Merchant. Yeah, I also wanted to see a concert. Oh, wow! Yeah, I went this weekend. I didn't go to Camcorder Ranch. I'm not allowed to leave the country.

Starting point is 00:27:58 I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't see a little bit of the city. I didn't go to Camcorder Ranch. I didn't, I'm not allowed to leave the country. I didn't see a concert of my own.

Starting point is 00:28:12 I got the corpses of John Lennon and Kurt Cobain together. Oh boy. Fill them with La Plaga and let them jam. You gave them that sort of bioluminescent bug that makes them... You know those guys from the game? Yeah, I know those guys. Yeah, I know those guys. Something like that. It was a bad show. I can't imagine it would go over well. It was a pain, but yeah, it was a good show.

Starting point is 00:28:44 It was a bad show Yeah, I can't imagine it would go But yeah, we had a musician here last week Joel Miller was here That's hey, that's right. I guess you could call. Yeah, I guess I mean, I don't think of him primarily as a musician But he was here by my trade by my hobby perhaps obvious. Yeah,. Yeah, he's a hobbyist collector and a hobbyist musician. Yeah, he's always collecting on behalf of somebody else certainly, but you know. Anyway, I just wanna say to you guys, my favorite thing to say,

Starting point is 00:29:17 what are you playing? Mera Paducah. We love to hear it, Resident Evil Merchant. You love saying it? Sounds so great Is it like that what why did you say that? He's in like a like a cheeky mood kind of No, I love wait, I like to hear it. There's no mischief in my pants

Starting point is 00:29:40 And I think it's borderline inappropriate for you to say He's wearing a diaper You toss to me I Look I complained about this a couple weeks ago. Yeah, oh Complained there's too many. I got too many fucking games. Yeah, there's too many goddamn games I'm playing Death Stranding 2 yes. I'm in chapter 8. I like I'm not very far I'm not further than where I was previously, but I'm playing Death Stranding 2. Yes! I'm in chapter eight. I'm not very far. I'm not further than where I was previously, but I'm in chapter eight.

Starting point is 00:30:09 You get so, not bogged down, because that sounds negative. This is not a complaint about the game. Yeah. You just get so immersed, and you get so into fulfilling the tasks that you have that aren't story. You get just so like, I guess this is just.

Starting point is 00:30:27 Gotta build the fucking road. If this game had no story and it was just like Porter simulator, you'd be like this fucking rules, this is great, I love it. I love sneaking around being sneaky and doing all sorts of sneaky stuff. There's a tension between do I wanna even see the next part of the story or do I want to do like five star this other place

Starting point is 00:30:47 or build a road that might help me in the next part of the story? I was just talking to a head gum zone, Casey Donahue, outside is also playing Death Stranding 2. And he was remarking on the upswing in combat versus the first game. Which is a thing, because like for me, so much of the appeal of Death Stranding in general,

Starting point is 00:31:04 and I think Death Stranding 2 is great, what I played of it, but the it like is You know walking around well just just just traversing yeah building infrastructure and sneaking yes It's like like like combat is pretty far down the list It's a there's a lot There's a lot more of it like because like the you do sort of then get these orders that then you have to go to these like bandit camps to get something. Execute those dudes. Well, you don't want to cause a void out, do you?

Starting point is 00:31:34 So you're only just kind of making them go sleep. Yeah, you snipe them in the head and then you run them over with your car and then Dollman says, Sam, did you kill that man? I wish there was something that I could actually turn off because I love Dollman says, Sam, did you kill that man? I wish there was something that I could actually turn off because I love Dollman. He doesn't need to tell me that my sniper's too fucking loud

Starting point is 00:31:51 every time I'm using it because guess what, bitch? I know. Doing that, doing, I haven't touched Hollow Knight in a while, I gotta get back to Hollow Knight. Doing Bonanza, of course, loving that still, but I started a fucking new game. Oh my God. Just morning. This guy.

Starting point is 00:32:10 I'm like Mr. Games. Mr. Games. That's, I'm out of here, that is your worst nickname yet. You can't be Mr. Games. I'm kind of Mr. Games. I think the Xbox skin I like, the finisher is great. Mr. Games.

Starting point is 00:32:24 Let's make it a shirt. Mr. Games. I just want to point to the out. I just want to point to the out real quick. I have to just point it out. Yeah. Nick loves the nicknames he gave me. I'm just saying.

Starting point is 00:32:33 It's just interesting. Wait, he gave you both those nicknames? He gave me both of them. Wow, okay. Yeah, I'm pretty good at that. Not even denying. Oh my God, he admitted. How can Mr. Games on one side of the t-shirt and a small get played logo up on the back Not even deny it. Oh my god. He admitted fucking

Starting point is 00:32:46 Mr.. Games on one side of the t-shirt and a small get played logo up on the back of the collar It'd be it's a good shirt extremely hard. Yeah Look, let's get let's get kinship on the horn Let's get this make it happen. I started a new game this morning came out just today as a recording Oh, so I haven't had that much time with it, but I'm loving it so far. This is the Ninja Gaiden, it is a 2D experience. Yes, Ninja Gaiden Ragebound, which I haven't said yet, I believe.

Starting point is 00:33:14 Excellent art style. It's- Looks great. It looks great, it runs on 30 frames per second on Switch, which is- Not ideal. Not ideal, but also like, oh like, oh, it's playing great. It's not a Switch 2 version.

Starting point is 00:33:27 It's a Switch 1 version that. I'm grumpy about it. I like those. That does make me grumpy. We got to like not, let's phase it out. You know what I mean? It looks great though. I'm really enjoying it.

Starting point is 00:33:37 It's already hard. Yeah. It's pretty challenging. But it's just, it's cool. 2D sprite work. I guess it's not sprite work. What do you call it sprite work? I guess I guess you would I guess it's artwork artwork And it's it's hard and you get cool like stuff that you can do or like immediately and it's just you know Lobbing people's heads up you can like parry

Starting point is 00:34:04 Like shurikens out of the air with your blade, which is really cool. And maybe not like the most exciting thing. What's the full title again? It's Ragebound? Rage-Guardian Ragebound. Ragebound. We talked about titles not long ago.

Starting point is 00:34:17 Fucking video game. That's pretty good. That's great. Ragebound is pretty good. If you're gonna put a subtitle in there. I'm looking at some of the footage right now. Yeah. I think it might be 3D models with a shader

Starting point is 00:34:29 to make it look like pixel, but it's a very good execution of that if that's the magic trick they're doing. But it also might be, they might be sprites. No, I think it's real sprites. But if so, they have a lot of frames of animation. I feel like I just read that this is a sprite game. I could be wrong. I mean, it's a thing I could have looked up,

Starting point is 00:34:47 but I was just trying to discern it from footage. It's the team that made, I don't know if you guys have messed with Blasphemous at all. Nope. Blasphemous one and two are really, really cool. Not games that I finished or played with much seriousness, but they're sort of side scrolling souls-like games. Now you're saying Blasphemous, not Blastphemousscrolling, souls-like games.

Starting point is 00:35:05 Now you're saying blasphemous, not blastfamous. Yes, blasfamous. Blas... Blasphemous, because blasphemous sounds like a video game. That sounds good too, yeah. It's great design, I'm having a lot of fun with it so far, and I hear that it's actually quite short. It was only 25 bucks for the game, and it's like six to eight hours of gameplay or something more than enough

Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah, but I'm like that's I don't need all it's all I fucking need Yeah, what do you what do you learn in Nick is it is it is it in the copy a spectacular pixel art showdown? Yeah, so yeah, well and then the shinobi game that's about mission month is hand-drawn Animation which looks stunning also. Maybe I'm also thinking, maybe I'm conflating the two. Look, Ninjas are back, and I will be checking out Shinobi when it comes out.

Starting point is 00:35:52 This is a huge year for Ninjas. It's huge. We've already talked about it. But it's just like there's big AAA releases that are Ninja-based. Look, I smell an episode premise. Indie games are Ninja-based. I know, yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:03 I thought of an episode premise while we've been talking that I also want to pitch out. Would you like to do a good episode instead? Are you saying that my idea is bad already? No, no, no, no, no. You know how you have games when you were a kid? Because I played this game when I was a kid that was a ninja game, and hearing you talk

Starting point is 00:36:21 about a ninja game, I was like, oh, I had a ninja game called, I think it was Ken Siden or something like that. But there are games that you have exposure to when you're a kid, either through a cousin, like cousin games, or something that your parents buy you from the fucking like bargain bin, that you have a specific familiarity and a knowledge of that isn't perhaps a mainstream game.

Starting point is 00:36:44 I think like an episode where we expose our games to one another from our childhood might be interesting. That could be fun. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, it's interesting because there's like, it feels like every one of those games at this point, you know, has like some sort of deep dive about it, like, like, you know, reminiscing on it, because we're just such a culture of nostalgia.

Starting point is 00:37:07 But still there are games I think about, where he was like, I spent a lot of time playing Ikari Warriors. A game I've maybe not even spoken about ever on this show. You know what I mean? But it's like, I don't know, who, I guess some people must remember that game, but it's certainly not like an IP that's endured.

Starting point is 00:37:24 Bring it back, bring it back, I say. Kenseiden is a 1988 action platforming game developed by, or published and developed by Sega for the Master System. Player controls a samurai hi-oto in the 16th century Japan as they attempt to retrieve five scrolls and a sacred sword. This was a game that like, that like mine was my ninja game when I was a kid Here's one that just came to mind facts anidu

Starting point is 00:37:51 which was a like a Kind of a kind of a metroidvania, but though with less less backtracking and NES game and it was You know you can get a look at it here it it's sort of side scrolling, sort of high fantasy sort of aesthetic. Oh yeah. But yeah, that's a game I played the shit out of and finished as a kid.

Starting point is 00:38:13 But yeah, so I'm enjoying Ragebound, I'll be bouncing in between all these games, you know, until one of them is done, and then I'll be bouncing between the two of them. But that's what I've been playing all right Heather. I think People want to know what you've been playing. I've been playing Donkey Kong bonanza Wow Here's a game which you know I loaded on my system

Starting point is 00:38:45 and I had these 10 hour and 11 hour flight to and from. And I was looking forward to playing it. What I wasn't expecting was that I would start playing it, get absolutely nowhere and seven hours would have gone by. Like digging, and like you become so fixated on digging in this game that it reminds me of Death Stranding 2, where you're just like, I know I have a goal

Starting point is 00:39:12 and it's over there, but I really wanna see how much bullshit's in the ground right here. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm also lightly fixated on, can I dig out this entire mountain? Like, what would, can I dig out this entire mountain? Like, what would happen if I dig out the entire mountain? Usually there's like steel structural elements that allow the level to continue to exist,

Starting point is 00:39:35 but there's nothing stopping you from mashing those buttons and just digging constantly. And once you get the ability to power up, that ability to dig just is worse or better. You know what I mean? Right. Really, really good, weird game. Like I would never think that a three dimensional

Starting point is 00:39:58 digging game would work, but it really works. Yeah. And kind of bafflingly so, especially since it's, as far as I can tell, an open world. Right. Like you can dig to the wrong area. Yeah, like what you were just saying is,

Starting point is 00:40:13 it's like, I think people would actually be like, oh, what about Minecraft? Obviously, yeah, but so much of Minecraft is the resource collection and the crafting elements, which are, this game is about basically just leveling a play space. Yeah, yeah, it's not like, oh oh I need to dig in order to achieve goal. Right. It's dig for dig's sake. Yeah. And um. Well sometimes you gotta find banana.

Starting point is 00:40:33 Yeah sometimes sometimes you gotta find banana. Sometimes you gotta find banana. Oh banana. Oh banana. It's something that you should be tired of by like the tenth time you hear it and it just every time you're like saying it with it. Also, I don't know how far into the game I am because I have no sense of forward progression. I don't know like, I don't know if I've skipped stuff. It's also a game that really for somebody who loves to play outside of bounds and see how I can break a game, it is a game that is like full cookie crumbs towards,

Starting point is 00:41:14 hey, you can see that all the way over there, right? Well, maybe you can try and figure out a way to get all the way over there, even though it's pretty clear that that's not where you're supposed to be. Yeah. Like it's a really, like I went to a village where I hadn't yet completed the village previous,

Starting point is 00:41:34 or like even like any of the minor goals of an entire section of an entirely different floor of the game, and I wasn't punished for it. Like it was great. Yeah. But yeah, I have no idea how far I am, you know, spoilers, you know, I've got the girl. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:53 And what's also great is she's exhibiting character development. She's gone from being scared to let's go. Right, no, that's like, it's like, it's, you realize when you're playing like a buddy story as you go. Yeah. That's part of what's fun is there's

Starting point is 00:42:08 a percent of dynamics. A buddy story between a normal human woman and an idiot. Sort of like your story on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's these really wonderful moments when you can like build like little like rest structures. Oh yeah, yeah. Within the game and you have an option like to go, like take a nap. Uh-huh. And you can either little rest structures within the game. And you have an option to take a nap,

Starting point is 00:42:27 and you can either talk to Pauline or just go to sleep. And I always just pick the talk to her one because I just want to hear what she has to say. Well, yeah, I mean, also she'll say, DK, are you awake? And you can pretend to be sleeping. And then she'll be like, wow, I'm really nervous about this cliff over here

Starting point is 00:42:45 I really hope we don't you don't wake up and sleep walk off the cliff Yeah, I don't know why I'm saying this you're asleep or like later should be like I really think you're a good monkey So good, it's so charming and It doesn't get all it's like a good. it's like a big bowl of Saturday morning cereal. It's fun to play, it's not like, you know, there's nothing grimdark about it where it's like, you know, I don't imagine there's going to be a moment where Donkey Kong's

Starting point is 00:43:17 like family is dead or something. It's great. I met Cranky, I was like, oh shit, Cranky's here, let's go. Yeah, it's a good game. Nick, what are you playing? Okay, you know why Cranky's so cranky. His wife died with no explanation. Is that canon?

Starting point is 00:43:35 Winkley Kong died between Donkey Kong Country 3 and Donkey Kong 64 with no explanation ever. She just goes from being alive and old to being a ghost. And you could sort of like fill in the blank, right? Like, oh, she's an old lady, she died. But he old guy too. Yeah, I know. Here's the thing, guys. I have been traveling recently.

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Starting point is 00:47:07 It is kind of, it is nuts because Nintendo didn't make those. Yes, yeah. And so you're sort of like, can, like, you kind of are second guessing Nintendo when it's like their whole fucking thing. Yeah. You're like, can they do this even? Like, can they do this well? And they're great.

Starting point is 00:47:25 They're so, so good. They're amazing. Yep. Heather, you asked me what I'm playing. I am going to give another update on The Drifter. Heather, you weren't here last week, and for anyone who didn't hear that episode, I will just reset this real quick.

Starting point is 00:47:38 This is a graphic adventure game with pixel art that was developed and published by an Australia-based small team called Power Hoof. And it released in July of 2025. I should clarify that it's not Drifter. There's a separate game just called Drifter. Yes. They reverse Facebooked it.

Starting point is 00:47:56 They added a the. Add the the. It's less clean. The Drifter. I'm in chapter five of The Drifter. I'm in chapter five of The Drifter. There is, here's the thing, Heather said there's nothing at all grim dark about Donkey Kong Bonanza, which I am also continuing to play and love. And that is true. This game is the complete opposite of that vibes wise. It is very grim dark. And you know, so much narrative art these days is about late capitalism

Starting point is 00:48:26 and the growing wealth divide and this game is fully about the dehumanizing effect of homelessness and the player character, Mick Carter, I mean, it's super Australian, so Mick Carter, it's like that's part of the fun of the game is just hearing these like thick Australian accents throughout and all these Australia specifics and all of the way peppered throughout the writing. But the player character is unhoused. And I just, again, I'm sure this has been done in games. I can't specifically remember a game

Starting point is 00:49:00 where you play an unhoused character and certainly not one where you're like really immersed in what that means and it is a particularly bleak story because the homeless in this world are being systematically executed by some sort of unknown entity. You're getting more details as you get deeper into the story, which I won't spoil. But there is one chapter ending story development where you learn the tragic backstory of your player character and the way it is revealed is so effective and so gutting

Starting point is 00:49:35 that I was just like, just from a writing perspective, I was like, man, they really pulled this off effectively. I did not see this coming and it clarifies a lot in terms of why this man's life is like this right now. There are some elements that will lead me to, I would just say this, and again, I'm sure the people who are really into adventure games

Starting point is 00:49:59 are already playing this one. The people are very, very high on this game in that niche fandom. But if you're if you're like, like, Oh, the story sounds interesting. But the like, you're unsure about the graphic adventure side, I should just say that, like, that stuff still exists. It's a lot more accessible than like a classic like Sierra or LucasArts game. It has a lot fewer annoyances, a lot more elements that are built in to help you track what's going on. But there are just these minor puzzle

Starting point is 00:50:29 frustrations that are just baked into this kind of design. For example, like there is a puzzle that involves like, I need to steam a label off of something. And the solution is stealing a custodian's thermos in one environment and then going to get steamed like hot water in another environment so you can go to a third environment and see the lay water. And it's just the kind of thing of like, if the world's more fantastical or more cartoonish, you kind of buy that sort of the moon logic required

Starting point is 00:51:01 for a task like this. Like if something's a little bit more stylized, like the Monkey Island franchise, it's like, okay, well, this is already kind of a goofy world and the normal rules don't apply. But here, this is presented as a really gritty reality with some sci-fi elements. And I'm just like, wouldn't the place with the tea

Starting point is 00:51:19 just have a thing you could put the hot water in? You know what I mean? It's just, so there's just those, but I'm not even like criticizing the game, because I think that it's like, it's fine puzzle design. It's just the thing that you kind of have to give leeway to when you're playing this sort of game. There's also these, there's this time loop mechanic

Starting point is 00:51:37 in the game, which is, tends to happen at major story thresholds where your character is in mortal danger. And in fact, the first thing that happens is you see them be killed. And these death animations, I will say, are extremely well done. The pixel art is great,

Starting point is 00:51:52 and the animation is really impressive. The death animations are very grisly and well done and varied. So usually what happens is your character will die horribly, come back to life and be like, oh God, oh, oh! And he's, and like a big thing this game is really effective at communicating is how terrifying and painful dying is. And then so this, your character is now trapped

Starting point is 00:52:16 in a time loop cycle of death and rebirth until you figure out how to get out of this situation. And that involves a bunch of like Rube Goldberg, Rube Goldberg sort of puzzle solutions that heavily involve sequencing things. And that's another thing where it's just like a little bit of a – it's not a roadblock for me but just like a minor sort of annoyance that – it's just a thing to take into account when you're playing this kind of game where it's like I know exactly what

Starting point is 00:52:44 to do but I just am not doing these things in the right order. So I guess I just got to try it this way. Like, okay, that worked. And sometimes those solutions feel a little bit arbitrary. It's fine. It's again, overall, I really love the game and I'm really, really positive about it. And a big part of what I like about it is the music, which is by Mitchell Posman's and

Starting point is 00:53:04 Lewis Meyer, which just the vibes of this game are impeccable. They're very, again, very bleak, very upsetting. It's not a good time, but it is like a very cool time and it's presented in an aesthetically really impressive way. I really like the Drifter and I think anyone who likes these sorts of graphic adventure games story driven games With puzzles in them should play it if you're not already playing it. All right, let's get into our retrospective on Mario paint Which was developed by Nintendo's internal R&D team Gunpei Yokoi Was the the development lead?

Starting point is 00:53:42 Yokoi rest in peace, of course, made the Game Boy, Metroid, a towering figure inside Nintendo before his, and the Virtual Boy before his tragic early death. And it came out in 1992 in Japan and North America, bundled with the Super NES mouse, which is one of those accessories that, I don't know, it's very cool that it exists. Like, it was certainly a novelty at the time,

Starting point is 00:54:13 but it's interesting that this kind of came in an era where consoles were attempting to become these set-top boxes, the PC of the living room, and this was one of the salvos in that direction. I feel like I hear people still say that they use the mouse still. The Super NES mouse. Yeah, I don't know if there's a,

Starting point is 00:54:35 there must be some adapter that plugs it in USB style or something, they can use it on a regular computer or something. Wait, the Super Nintendo mouse? Yeah. Maybe, the Super Nintendo Mouse? Yeah. Maybe, I don't know. I was distracted for a moment because I read that it was Hirofumi Matsuoka,

Starting point is 00:54:57 who designed and directed this game, who was a graphic designer on Metroid and then was the lead on Mario Paint. Yes, Matsuoka also worked on it. I mean, like was, as far as the credits go, Hirafumi Matsuoka, the director, Gunpei Yokoi, the producer. In Japanese development, I feel like it sometimes

Starting point is 00:55:21 like kind of was the, in terms of who was in charge of a game creatively. But I think they were both important figures in this. So yeah, as you were saying, this game comes at a time when for a lot of families, computers are financially out of reach. Certainly my family did not have a computer with a mouse. Like the mouse itself was limited to Macintosh in terms of like public, like at the time

Starting point is 00:55:52 of this game's release in 1992, I know there are other games, there are like Windows machines that have mice, et cetera. But if you're like looking for like the computer that popularized the mouse, it's probably the Mac. And Macs were insanely expensive for a regular family. The, so as far as the PC platform goes, and we had a PC in our home,

Starting point is 00:56:14 we had a Windows computer of the era, but it was Windows 3.1, which was placed on top of MS-DOS. So MS-DOS was really your operating system, that was a command line operating system. So yeah, you were only using the mouse and having access to a GUI if you loaded up Windows, but that took up so much memory that you couldn't like play it, launch a game from Windows 3.1. You'd have to go back to MS-DOS. And so yeah, yeah, it was very like the was very split like the the mouse in of itself was was a Something of a novelty even to people who had computers in their homes

Starting point is 00:56:48 Which was a very small percentage of population relative to today Yeah, and then so you you have this super Nintendo is in a large portion of homes It had recently received a price drop. So the system was less expensive than it was on launch certainly in Nintendo I think it was like, or in Japan it was dropped down to like almost 99 bucks. Wow. So then if you get Mario Paint at 60, then you suddenly have your ability to interact

Starting point is 00:57:16 with what would be the PC or Macintosh experience for a lot less footprint of money. And I don't know, or a lot less footprint of money. And I don't know, Mario Paint was for me, you know, I got my Super Nintendo after the Genesis, but Mario Paint for me was my first mouse. And so like playing with the mouse, like the language of Mac Paint or Windows Paint,

Starting point is 00:57:44 whatever the fuck it's called on, it's probably just called Paint, MS Paint. There or Windows Paint, whatever the fuck it's called, it's probably just called Paint, MS Paint. There is MS Paint, yeah, and then there's also like, you know, there were other, like a CorelDRAW is the one we had, but there were other applications of the era where you could do, you know, that had a little bit more sophistication than

Starting point is 00:57:58 just MS Paint. But my introduction to any of that, what are you laughing about? Nothing. What? What's going on? I don't want to say it. Mr. Games, you gotta tell us. Your first mouse was the... Oh, I don't want to hear it now.

Starting point is 00:58:19 You were saying your first mouse was the one that came with Mario Paint, the Nintendo mouse? Yeah. This is interesting. I'm just pointing out how interesting it is. My first mouse was the one that came with Mario Paint, the Super Nintendo mouse. It's just interesting. I'm just pointing out how interesting it is. My first mouse was Stuart Little. In some ways, he was like my brother. My teeny tiny little brother. What is this show when I'm not here? Like what do you, you just gotta say these things to each other and just giggle for like an hour?

Starting point is 00:58:52 We did do one bit last week for 15 minutes I think. Which by the way, have you ever stayed at an Umbrella Corpo hotel or? Have you ever stayed at an Umbrella Corpocho? Or? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, this was my first experience of like a graphical interface for a computer. It was my first introduction to the language of like a what becomes Photoshop, you know, like that sort of progression of like,

Starting point is 00:59:23 these tools are going to be sort of familiar to you Right across all platforms moving forward. I read some interviews with people who were like Crediting Mario paint with their introduction to graphic design. Yeah, like there was a like a Star Wars guy who? starts on Mario paint and then and then transitions into like graphic design via the Mario Paint mouse. I'm not just. No reaction from anyone to that. It's all like, all right. Sure, man.

Starting point is 00:59:57 You silently liked it. I did like it. I feel like I was only in trouble for laughing at this little thing. I already used mine. I do want to shout out the Video Game History Foundation, which is gamehistory.org. They have a nice chunky podcast about the development of Mario Paint with Norman Caruso.

Starting point is 01:00:22 Oh wow. And Norman Caruso also has a 45 minute long YouTube documentary about Mario Paint, which is really neat. But yeah, I feel like it would be interesting. I've got some commercials from the era to sort of demonstrate how this was sold to people because it was Effectively sold to adults right it was sold to the parents to be like hey give your kids this and

Starting point is 01:00:54 They will be able to be creative with the system that you slightly resent in your home Because there's always in the 90s that tension between parents who were like, stop playing fucking video games, you're gonna ruin your life, or these games are disgusting and why did I even bring this system into my house? It's making you bad at your homework. And also the game companies being like,

Starting point is 01:01:19 no, it could be for good. Yeah. Now I feel like parents are like, yeah, keep playing video games, maybe you'll make $10 million as a professional gamer. No, it could be for good. Yeah. Now I feel like parents are like, yeah, keep playing video games. Maybe you'll make $10 million as a professional gamer. Maybe you'll get to influence policy. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:33 There's a far side comic from the 80s that's a single panel. And it's just like two, like it's a kid sitting in front of what looks like a Nintendo playing it, and then his parents are like proudly looking on and I think the caption is like hopeful parents and then they're – the thought bubble that what they're imagining is of a bunch of jobs that require playing video games. It's one of those things where you just like, that was a punch line back in the day.

Starting point is 01:02:02 But yeah, the idea that you could monetize like like I Mean game creation obviously was was not even thought of as a as a real profession even though it existed But the fact that like like eventually there'd be a point where they get streaming games or playing games competitively could be an income source But you're like laughable whoever drew that little cartoon feels like a fucking piece of shit now Gary Larson. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's dead RIP. Should we watch a commercial and see how they sold this? And then talk for people who don't know what this is, talk about the game at large.

Starting point is 01:02:35 Yeah, of course. Great. Flowers, then a heartbeat, and the sound of mushrooms sprouting. It was raining cats and dogs in harmony. Then airplanes hit the high notes. Even the stars came out to play. Hey, I think I just wrote a song.

Starting point is 01:02:57 Mario Paint. Draw and make music. Only on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. I've never seen that ad before. Me neither. So that was largely what was as the audio was playing and the audio being something that was generated from within the game's built-in composition element, which we will talk about. But like the Mario Paint composers used to make the music there, as that narration was happening we were seeing animation that was generated within Mario Paint composers used to make the music there. As that narration was happening, we were seeing animation that was generated

Starting point is 01:03:27 within Mario Paint. Yeah, it's a commercial made entirely inside of Mario Paint. Until we pop out then and see a kid. Should we watch one more? Yeah. She put the cat in the fishbowl and planted corn on her brother's head. Great.

Starting point is 01:03:41 And then she cut a huge hole in the roof for the butterflies. Terrific. That's not all. She tore your stereo apart to add some more woofers and tweeters. I don't know where that child gets her imagination. Me neither. But I really like what she does with it. Yeah, sold to parents. We saw Yeah, we see the parents at the end, who, it's one of those things where you, like you learn later, like, oh yeah,

Starting point is 01:04:11 those actors were 26 years old. Yeah. Somewhere in, probably in an attic space at my parents' house is a VHS tape where I recorded all of the animations I made with Mario Paint when I was a kid. Wow, wow. And who knows what they are, but yeah.

Starting point is 01:04:31 Being told as a kid, you like cartoons, you wanna make cartoons, here, you make cartoons in Mario Paint. I was like, oh fuck, this is great. It takes so fucking long, but you can do it. It is incredibly tedious as actual animation work is. Like, you know, the professional animation is a very time consuming profession,

Starting point is 01:04:53 but like it is a end process, but the tools within the game are pretty limited. And, you know, again, you're like, the UX is also like just kind of a, it very much feels like a relic, and I guess we should have said already that part of the reason we're covering this now is because it has been, as part of the Nintendo online service,

Starting point is 01:05:15 added to the Switch 2's library, and it's playable via using the Switch 2 mouse, which, not as great as a Super Nintendo mouse. No, no, definitely not. Though the roller ball in the Super Nintendo mouse was also frustrating. Yes. So it does duplicate some of the layer of frustration

Starting point is 01:05:35 that you have while playing Mario Paint. Yeah, I guess people maybe are young enough to not have, I mean, first off, they're eventually we're running to people who are so young, they don't know what a mouse is, or not used a mouse. But the optical mouse, which is the standard these days, it used to have a physical ball underneath it that you would roll against a hard surface,

Starting point is 01:05:54 and that's how it would track your hand movement and correspond to the cursor's movement. And you'd have to take that ball out of the bottom of the mouse and clean it, because it would collect lint and function poorly. I do remember this, I was there for that. I remember my friends in elementary school would take the ball out and keep it,

Starting point is 01:06:15 which was bad for the school. So what is Mario Paint? Mario Paint is a game that has a, its primary function is this paint, this Mac Paint style painting canvas, which also has an animation feature. But additionally to that, it has a couple mini games, one where you swat a fly in order to kill

Starting point is 01:06:38 lots and lots of flies. Net Attack, correct? Fucking frustrating little mini game. It also has a music composition Mode that allows you to make a roughly 30 second song using sound samples from the Nintendo instrument library, which you lay on to a Musical staff yeah musical staff using sprites from Nintendo games.

Starting point is 01:07:06 So like instead of a note, it will be a Mario face and that Mario face will represent a type of sound. Yes, so this is, I can speak to this a little bit. So I did not have Mario Paint or Mario Mouse, but I had a friend whose house I would go to all the time who had Mario Paint and the mouse and also had SimCity which supported the mouse But city supports the mouse pretty sure it did am I wrong about that. Holy shit. I have the mouse

Starting point is 01:07:31 I still have Mario Paint For Super Nintendo and I have SimCity and I didn't know that it supported the fucking mouse Holy shit. Yeah, it did not require the mouse, but it's used it in my memory I could be right now you're now you're having me second-guess this But anyway, and there were a number of games that supported the boss including one that was never released in North America Which we'll talk about in a bit But like so like I want to play Mario Mario paint at his house I never really got into the I like I definitely dicked around with making little animations and yeah

Starting point is 01:08:02 But like it is so laborious. And I also just for me, that didn't have a novelty to it because I had a, like, again, I just had these applications at home. We had a PC in the house. So like there was nothing that there's, I was just like, oh, this is just like Paint Shop Pro or, you know, a Print Shop Deluxe or, or Corel Draw. Like this is just a, like, I, why would I want to do this with my super Nintendo? but the music composition thing I did play music as a kid and I

Starting point is 01:08:31 That was that did have novelty to it partly because you had this like library of you know sound effects You could use the super Nintendo chip sound chip The thing is it is very limited and returning to it in 2025 I The thing is, it is very limited and returning to it in 2025, I had forgotten just how limited it was. You have access to only an octave and a half worth of notes. You can cheat that a little bit because some of the samples are pitched down, some are pitched up, so you can kind of like dance around a little bit.

Starting point is 01:09:01 But again, you just don't have a lot of room. You're going from basically middle C to the G above the staff in treble clef. And then, you know, you can only play three notes at a time, which again, you can you can work around that. That's not the worst limitation. But the main thing is you can't use sharps or flats. So you're limited to, you know, basically working in two keys, C major or A minor. And, you know, it's that limitation is it can be a strength. And it's it's like amazing when you like watch you, like you look at YouTube videos of of what songs people have recreated in Mario paint. But it's really cumbersome to do.

Starting point is 01:09:37 And you don't have a lot of flexibility. Oh, it's also things like you can't really do sustain notes. You can't do, you know, like like like't really do sustained notes. You can't do You know like like it's all quarter notes. You can't subdivide the beat. It's not easy to do syncopation again You can cheat that by like really speeding up the tempo and you know effectively using it like quarter notes as eighth notes But yeah, it's it's a I'll just say that I found myself pretty frustrated I'll just say that I found myself pretty frustrated trying to put anything together in this. And especially because I'm doing this in my office where I have a piano and then I go up there

Starting point is 01:10:11 and it's like, I can just play this on my piano and there we go, I just know how this goes. And then to actually input that into Mario Paint and get it playing is a huge pain in my ass. I'm here looking at the, because when you said that SimCity was compatible with it, I was shocked. SimCity is not, but SimAnt is, and so is Sid Meier's Civilization for the Super NES.

Starting point is 01:10:35 Okay, so maybe it was SimAnt that I was remembering. But there are an enormous number of compatible games, and I'm stunned. Like Doom for the Super NES used the mouse. So did Wolfenstein 3D. The Jurassic Park game used the mouse. Like Revolution X, the Aerosmith game that I think we once covered. Yeah, we did with Zane Carney.

Starting point is 01:10:57 Yeah. There's T2, the arcade game. I knew T2, the arcade game, did. But there's, yeah, there's a big list, and especially if you lived in Japan, there's a much larger list of games that were compatible with the mouse. I thought the mouse only worked with Mario Paint.

Starting point is 01:11:17 Wait, they ported Might and Magic 3 Isles of Terra to Super Nintendo, what the fuck? Played that game on PC, I had no idea. I'm sure it's a perfect port. But that one supports the mouse. But yeah, it is limited. Like I'll agree with Nick, it is a limited piece of software, but for those of us who had nothing like it at home,

Starting point is 01:11:42 it was really maximalist. Like it wasn't just paint, it also was music. It also, like also I will say, the function of the right button on the mouse is locked to a secret code in Mario Paint. Like I think that the right button, I'm not sure if the right button is on by default in the switch to version, but in the actual version you have to Hold the right button and click the letter N

Starting point is 01:12:15 on the logo page Yeah in order to activate the ability to use the right button inside the game Because like the Mac mouse only has one button, but the Nintendo mouse comes with two buttons, which then allows you to do undo with one button, instead of clicking in between the two icons. Right clicking anywhere on the screen will activate Undo Dog.

Starting point is 01:12:40 Right clicking on the canvas in the stamp editor will sample the pixel color underneath the cursor like like a Photoshop tool Yeah, there are it unlocks four new rotation options in in addition to horizontal and vertical flip Like those things should be enabled by default. That's crazy to me. Yeah, so this is my first time with this Piece of software. Oh. We'll call it. Yeah So the just just going back to that this was like an era where the term that was used for these sorts of things Well, sometimes was software toy. Yeah, it's like it's not exactly a game

Starting point is 01:13:16 But it's something that you would like play on a console you tainment exactly and so I'm thinking back to the Nintendo DS Right. What was the thing in there? PictoChat. PictoChat. Was Flipnote? Yep, that was 3DS. One of those two, that's maybe 3DS?

Starting point is 01:13:31 Yeah, one of them. So I'm thinking of PictoChat and how funny I thought it was to like draw little things with the stylus. The stylus, we can all agree, better than drawing with a mouse. Way better. Just a better time for everybody because it's what you're used to doing.

Starting point is 01:13:45 Yeah, and it's like, you know, professional artists when they're working on a computer, they're not using a mouse, they're using like, you know, some sort of tablet input. And so trying this for the first time ever in the Year of Our Lord 2025, from the jump, I was having a hard time. And I was like sad, not sad sad, but I was sort of like, oh, I know people have such great affection for this. I wanna put my best foot forward and try to enjoy this thing that I know so many people enjoy.

Starting point is 01:14:15 But I was having a hard time doing it just because I just have nothing holding me to a fond memory of this even. So I was like, okay, can I draw? I know there's coloring book options that are sort of pre-made designs that you can fill in with coloring. And I was like, having a hard time with that?

Starting point is 01:14:37 Like, the mouse speed was not what I wanted, and then you can adjust the mouse. None of the mouse speeds were appropriate. You are also battling the Switch 2 mouse, which is its own thing. Yes, and I have to then find those rails that they give you and the surface is kind of just not, it's just like, the whole thing, not an ideal situation.

Starting point is 01:15:00 But the music tool, very funny to me, because it's like like I'm not a musician I don't really know how songs work or like how to make a song but I was kind of like it's kind of funny to like make a little song. No it is I mean there's a thing it's like fun just to dick around with and and it's like it's not it's designed to be accessible to people who don't read music or know much about music. But then also like I mean I also I used I feel like used to draw more when I was a little kid like I in the corner of pages of notes in school or whatever.

Starting point is 01:15:31 But I was never serious about drawing. So even given a blank screen, and with the imagination of a nearly 35-year-old adult, I could draw anything I want. I was like, I don't know. the imagination of a nearly 35 year old adult. Like I could draw anything I want. I was like, I don't know. I have no idea what to do with this. And I don't know why I would have this if it wasn't for the Nintendo Switch Online experience.

Starting point is 01:15:58 I would hope that they would update it. Like do like a new one. A new one would be great. Well, to that, Super Mario Maker was originally envisioned as a Mario Paint title for the Wii U. Wow. Interesting. It began development as a Mario Paint title and then transitioned into becoming Super Mario Maker.

Starting point is 01:16:17 From the Wikipedia entry about Mario Paint, quote, Takashi Tezuka, the game's producer, stated that he was inspired to bring the fun of Mario Paint, quote, Takashi Tezuka, the game's producer, stated that he was inspired to bring the fun of Mario Paint into this course editor to make something fun and creative for people to enjoy. And US gamer called Mario Paint an essential part of the road to Mario Maker. That's also why Undo Dog appears inside of Super Mario Maker. I do like Undo Dog.

Starting point is 01:16:43 Undo Dog is good. Undo Dog's fun. There was also the Mario Artist series, which was Japan exclusive, that's for the 64DD, which never got released out here. But that apparently, there is some, it also included some 3D modeling, which you can't imagine trying to do

Starting point is 01:17:01 on a Nintendo 64 with a Nintendo mouse Which is kind of which is back in Bonanza like in the art area You can like make 3d models with the clay that they give you and something that's really that's cool But but it is what there's in the main menu of Donkey Kong Bonanza. There's like an art I can't remember what it's called and you can make 3d models Yeah, people are making Homer Simpson with the clay. Holy shit. Or people are making, you know, people are making like.

Starting point is 01:17:28 I haven't clicked that button. I just went into the game and then never stopped. Yeah, it's, you know, you can just pick stuff up and throw it. It's basically the throwing mechanic, but you're using it to sculpt. Wow. You know, whatever you want.

Starting point is 01:17:40 Wow. I wanna walk back to something I was saying earlier, which was just like, we had a PC at home, and so to me this lacked a lot of the novelty that it did to other people. But I have to remember when I'm talking about that, that I was in a privileged place from having access to a PC my entire childhood in an era

Starting point is 01:18:01 when that was not a common thing. And so again, it's like when I'm talking about Goldeneye and I know that game was like so impactful to a lot of people, but when it hits me as someone who has a PC, it was, I had a gaming PC at home. I was just like, well, I've already, I've played the shit out of doom and a million doom clones, you know, like this is nothing new to me. And actually also this controls worse than it does on my PC So like I'm just gonna be in this game

Starting point is 01:18:27 it's a similar thing with Mario paint where it's just like I Know this is it was a super impactful game for for people like Heather and a lot of people because it's just like that Was your one way into any sort of digital creation tool in your home? And and that's like what's what's kind of what's a what's so amazing about it? It is it's astounding that it exists. Like it's like, it's real. And that it works. Yeah. Yeah. I will say something that-

Starting point is 01:18:48 And that you can save. Yeah, that you could save as well. I wish that there was like any amount of tutorial, like which it sounds crazy, cause it's like just like colors and- Matt, RTFM, this was the era of- I forgot about the manuals. This was the era of... I forgot about the manuals. This was the era of where it was expected

Starting point is 01:19:08 that you were gonna read the manual before you played a game. I forgot about RTFM. The most annoying people online would type RTFM if you asked for help on a forum. And it happened to me. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:20 Yeah. Cause like some of the tools aren't, I had to like, I just, at the beginning you get the little Like the screen with all the stuff on it Yeah, and I'm just like what the fuck even is any of this yeah, and so I'm just like I guess To do my due diligence. I'm gonna click on every single thing and then start doing stuff which is when what I did So then that's how I found the Nat game, and there's like another little thing in there, too And then finding the that you can change the

Starting point is 01:19:51 You know From colors to like a pattern design or like a shape or like a stamp or something found all that stuff And just and then I would always then forget Which one was with because also the fly swatter one doesn't look it the icon should be a fly swatter Yeah, it is not it's not it's a cup. Yeah, right There's also like the idea was this was really good. This is your coffee break. This is the mini game That's built in so like I want to stop working. I just want to play something It's also baffling that the first thing you see after you start the game is a guy doing sit-ups. Yes

Starting point is 01:20:28 I know that we've already we've talked about music stuff in the thing that music within the game itself is Incredible yeah, it is so fucking good. It's so good I also want to shout out one one other item about before we move on to music Yeah, one other item about the save feature in the game. Mm-hmm is that all of this? Saving on the cartridge had to be 32 kilobytes or less That was the maximum save size of a file Yeah, so they had to build in an error screen if you were to create an animation That was larger than possible to save.

Starting point is 01:21:06 Yeah. Which is a robot who's breaking down. Wow. And like the idea that that is kind of an Easter egg inside of Mario Paint that most people don't see because they don't max out all of the animation. Yeah. Like I didn't even know that existed until I until I went on like all this research when I Clicked on the thing that was like the animation tool. I said out loud. I'm not doing

Starting point is 01:21:39 Cuz like even yeah like so with the coloring I then Figuring out what size pen or you know our tip that you're gonna use, I was immediately coloring outside of the lines. But also the mouse, the fucking mouse, it doesn't really work for this game. I feel like you need a real one. This is the main choke point with the Switch 2 experience of Mario Paint. The fucking fucking joy con 2 mouse just does not work it fucking sucks

Starting point is 01:22:08 I thought it was I thought it was a horrible Ergonomic experience my hand hurt all last night, and I played I played for two nights It hurt all yesterday all last night and in this morning now. It's fine to loosen up I was just so like kind of you know like deathclaw trying to manipulate this fucking thing Yeah, and I can plug in a regular mouse Apparently wait really to the USB port. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that what a fucking done that Didn't do it the joy con 2 mouse sucks. It's really bad. I thought I had the opposite experience I was like this is surprisingly good

Starting point is 01:22:44 It's amazing that it works. At all. But I found it really cumbersome to use. I also kept getting disconnection notices. Yeah, me too, me too. Which was really fucking annoying. Yeah. Yeah. And also, you're emulating the game anyway.

Starting point is 01:22:55 Let me have the option of controlling the cursor with the analog stick. Yeah, why not? Because mouse mode, not that, we're not talking about mouse mode, but I guess we are. In the, what's that fucking thing there? Yeah, why not? Cuz like mouse mode not that we're not talking about mouse mode, but like I guess we are like in the What's that fucking thing that we did the game the the welcome tour in welcome to her it works for when it's supposed to and

Starting point is 01:23:15 It works it works well like it works for that stuff really great and like I've played a little bit of cyberpunk With 2077 with mouse control and I just like, I'm just not used to that. I just didn't grow up playing games with a mouse. So I just like, I don't like it. Yeah, I tried playing Fortnite with the mouse and I was like, oh no, this is weird. I've always just had a controller

Starting point is 01:23:39 and it's just like what I'm used to. So I have very, very little use case for the mouse mode. Complete opposite for me. I can like I flat-out refused to play Get like a games with a the first-person shooters with this with a controller Except for the halo series basically cuz I was like I was so like and it wasn't until pretty recently Whereas like got more comfortable with using a dual analog stick for I was just so used to mouse and keyboard Well, you know, you know who actually, you know who loves mouse mode? Who's that, Matt?

Starting point is 01:24:07 My little brother Stuart Little. Oh, he's your brother now? Well, yeah, he's kind of like my tiny brother. Oh, got it, got it, okay. My parents adopted him. He's different. And you can't be mad. You can't be mad at him. He's just a different little guy. It's clear that this game was released now

Starting point is 01:24:26 because they're looking for content to put on the Switch 2 to justify mouse mode. Yeah, right. It's like, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't release a bunch of other Super NES compatible mouse games on Nintendo online, just so you could be like, oh yeah, I guess I can play Wolfenstein with the mouse. Yeah, I mean, I guess they do do,

Starting point is 01:24:51 you know, non first party games on there sometimes. I wonder how many of those would come to the console. Cause like that library, I hadn't opened the Super Nintendo icon in a long time. There was like 10 things updated. I hadn't opened the Super Nintendo icon in a long time. There was like 10 things updated that were like, these are all new stuff. I was like, I don't, I'm like a... You have to advent calendar open each individual one.

Starting point is 01:25:14 Yes. Because that's how the interface works. Yeah. Yeah. Matt, I would love to hear your song and I'd love to share mine. Okay, yeah, so I made... But I think we should start by playing the demo songs

Starting point is 01:25:26 that are packed in so people know what is capable in this. So let's hook up my Switch 2 and we can listen to those songs. Great. All right, so the following song took me, no joke, two and a half hours. Really? Okay. To compose and you will be. Really? To compose.

Starting point is 01:25:45 And you will be staggered by the simplicity. Here we go. So you, okay, so we misunderstood the tasks, or I misunderstood the tasks. You made a, you tried to make a good one on purpose. I tried to make Sonic. That's the, that's Green Hill. That's Green Hill Zone. You did a good job. I thought that was great.

Starting point is 01:26:22 It took me so fucking long. You have no, I tried, at some point I tried to make a baseline, couldn't do that. But by comparison, here's what you could do with this software if you were competent. Honestly, learning that this is possible, I take back what I said. What did you say? That I wasn't having a good time with the game. That's really good. How about this one? All right, wow, it's kind of incredible. It's really, really great that you could actually make something good in it. I'm almost embarrassed to share mine. I do think now I have destroyed my own song.

Starting point is 01:27:39 That's a bummer. I don't think you can get... At least it's recorded. Playing the demo one purges the one that's saved. That's annoying. Yeah, I think that purged my, but I did save state it before that. It also is all too easy to clear everything you do.

Starting point is 01:27:55 Yeah, that's a massive clear button. It's the largest button on the screen. I feel like then I gotta then share my song. Yeah, please. Yeah, I feel like then I gotta then share my song. Yeah, please. Yeah I Loved it that took me two and a half hours No, I think I did that in like a minute You know to hate that song Stuart little little well you would have been really scared yeah all the cats all the cat and then he oh, it's like a car horn

Starting point is 01:28:49 He might be getting run over he's a little guy well. He's no stranger to the vehicle. That's true He doesn't look right around that thing The first song I made when I was like trying to refigure it out was just noise yeah But there were parts of it that worked, and was like, should I just make this my song? I also made a song, but I forgot to bring my switch too. So I guess we could tack it onto the end of the episode. Okay, great. It's like beautiful.

Starting point is 01:29:15 Yeah, of course it is. I do not get your expectations too high, but it is, even knowing music, it is a pain in the ass to do anything in the composition Yeah as and and sure like a you know, if you're a competent artist, which I am NOT it's a pain in the ass to do anything in the The in-game a paint app, but it is amazing that it exists now Nick you had a sample of another Super Nintendo game that used the mouse.

Starting point is 01:29:50 Yes, this is a super. That was exclusive to Japan. This is a Super Famicom game that only released in Japan that I honestly had never heard of, and this one used the mouse. I thought we'd all just like watch some footage together and try to piece together what the fuck is happening, but I'm surprised this game doesn't have more of a legacy

Starting point is 01:30:03 because it is called Mario and Wario. Let's watch a little bit of this long play here and we'll talk over it. So my understanding as we're watching this and hearing some of the audio, there is one character who you're controlling with the mouse, who is kind of a fairy who hovers around and yeah You're maybe hearing some coin collecting sounds and then click some panels and that is to facilitate the platforming of I guess I guess a fucking Yoshi. Yeah, who's walking through the level. So like there's some spikes there You've got to activate some panels that the Yoshi can walk over the spikes without being killed, but not activate the panels that blockade the Yoshi's path. It looks like it's maybe kind of fun. Yeah. It really

Starting point is 01:30:53 does. Yeah. It certainly has a very pleasing aesthetic. So you've got, Yoshi's got a bucket on his head that it looks like Wario put over his head, and you just have to like, yeah, you have to stay ahead of him creating the platforms that he uses to traverse the level. As you're trying to rescue Luigi's beta ass. Up there helpless waiting by the goal sign. And the levels become more complicated, of course, as you go. There's a chance this game rips.

Starting point is 01:31:22 It looks like it rips. But there's also a chance that it's like, you know kind of boring Cuz I yeah, it could be like that like if you know how to use a mouse and This is intended to like here's how you use it Like this could be the sort of thing where it's like Oh, the difficulty is basically not existed if you know to where move your cursor, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I don't say don't know it looks like it has some depth to it. It really It looks pretty good. Yeah, I can't believe I this is the first I'm seeing of this in my life

Starting point is 01:31:50 Yeah, I know I can't believe I've never heard of this game and I'm sure our listeners are some of our more knowledgeable listeners are shocked that we haven't heard of it, but Again only released in Japan a wrench. Can we skip ahead a little bit further down just to see if there's any Yeah, let's go. Again, it seems like Yoshi seems to get have have different head coverings that obscure his vision. Here he's got an upside down piranha plant, which prevents him from seeing the field of flowers beforehand, as he again is getting to a marooned Luigi. The initial levels are a single screen

Starting point is 01:32:25 and you just have to create the path for him to get across on a single screen. The later levels, not only are the levels multi-screens large, very large maps, but there are also bullets flying around. So you have to time when and where you create your paths for Yoshi to follow. Bullets flying around you have to time when and where you create your Your paths for Yoshi to follow I

Starting point is 01:32:51 Have a take about the game. Yeah, yeah game is called Mario and Wario Where the fuck are they so far? Completely not delivering on the promise of the premise No Wario the game It's just Yoshi and Luigi. No Mario, no Wario. The game should be called Yoshi and Luigi. It's very weird, like even at the end of the game, Yoshi and Luigi, they cross a field

Starting point is 01:33:16 and they join the princess and Mario. Okay, I think I get what's going on here. This particular gameplay capture, it uses Luigi, I'm sorry uses Yoshi, but Mario is a playable character I is the default player character, so we're just watching it a long play that where someone was using Luigi Okay, I'm sorry using Yoshi rather. We've been misled. We've been misled But yes, apparently you do control a Mario with his vision blocked Wow it seems it does seem good that seems awesome that seems way better than anything on the virtual boy that seems okay hold on one goddamn second wait

Starting point is 01:33:58 what was that one that this reminded me of that weird Sonic game the the one where you're holding on to the other character to fucking Knuckles chaotic that sort of remind me of knuckles chaos really your gameplay is in tandem with another character. Yeah I will just because you brought it up. Yes Virtual boy yeah has an emulator for the 3ds Yeah, where you can play all of the virtual boy games in 3d and This week I think they updated the emulator so that it has Effectively the super gameboy color like the super color gameboy like four color palette Options so for the first time ever as of I think this week

Starting point is 01:34:43 Virtual boy games are in color instead of just red and black. Interesting. That's cool. Yeah, it made me want to dig out my 3DS and hack it all up and play some Virtual Boy games. Play some, play some... Waterworld? Waterworld. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. That, but still one of my favorite experiences on this show is you guys playing Virtual Boy at

Starting point is 01:35:09 my house and being like, this is horrible. And puking in your toilet. Any other thoughts on Mario Pan? Anything we haven't covered? Gosh, I mean, there's a surprising amount of depth to it, I will say. Yeah. There is like a lot you can do, and it's just gonna be dependent on your interest

Starting point is 01:35:33 and your- Patience. And your patience for being an artist. Yeah. Which is cool. Yeah. I think it's awesome that if that's like something that you're into, that there's something for you. Also, I would say that if you if you put it in context like as a as a person who's really now as an adult super into retro software like I

Starting point is 01:35:52 Rebuild these Macintosh computers and I I love the software on the original Mac and the Mac classic, right? And playing this side by side with the 1991 Mac classic I'm shocked at how And playing this side by side with the 1991 Mac Classic, I'm shocked at how competent it is and how comparable it is. Like Mac Paint in 91 doesn't have a ton more options than Mario Paint. And it's only the sort of ease of use of the rest of the UI that makes that a better platform to make art. But it's black and white if you're using a Mac Classic.

Starting point is 01:36:27 It's, I don't know, man. I'm impressed. What Nintendo pulled off on a cartridge and a Super Nintendo. There's also the other, you know, the other limitation that it's working with is you're working with the resolution of a, you know, a CRT. Which is, I think, 428. Which is I think 428P? Yeah, I... 428P?

Starting point is 01:36:47 I'll look it up real quick. I should know this. I should know it. But it's, you know, as far as real estate on the screen, you've got a lot less than you would have had at the time on like a 1024 by 768 like computer monitor. So it's, yeah, it has a lot of things working against it and still it's able to be very usable, certainly in 1990s terms and in 1990 cents.

Starting point is 01:37:14 And the other thing is like the UI, which again, like it's a little bit, it's a pain in the ass to use, but also like it has a relative absence of text. It's almost always all visual driven. It's almost all iconography, and that was part of it. It's designed to make it more accessible to kids. I wonder if it was even localized. What would have to be localized on it?

Starting point is 01:37:39 There are some buttons that have text, right? There are, I don't know. I imagine there's a small amount of localization, but it's pretty minimal. Yeah. And some menus. And then the other thing we haven't mentioned is that you can interact with a logo

Starting point is 01:37:56 when you load up the game, which is a lot of fun. I did like that. It was fun. That was fun, because you know, you can click stuff with a mouse. You can click everything. I'm gonna be clicking everything. I gotta see going on click on the oh it turns into a bomb It's a lot of fun. Yeah, you get the and Yoshi runs around yeah for one of the letters. That's good stuff

Starting point is 01:38:18 All right, it's time for the question block All right, these are all source from our our discord. Discord.GG slash get played. I don't need a fucking cheeseburger so bad. I'm sorry for saying that aloud. What the fuck is happening to you? Can't stop thinking about eating a burger. So I just want to, I need to just make this clear. I just need to make this clear.

Starting point is 01:38:36 There was a, there was like a technical stop down, like, like for like, uh, just transitioning between getting like the music and stuff going. Then we've cut out that stuff is gone Oh, we cut that out. Okay, that stuff's out Nick in that break was talking about how badly he wants a cheeseburger and We're like, okay fine You're an adult you can get one and he's like I'm gonna get one and then now minutes later. He's still talking about it occupying all of my thoughts. I know.

Starting point is 01:39:06 Struggling to get through this episode. But you know what's interesting? We talked about burgers yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:15 Yeah. These are all from our Discord, discord.gg slash get played. Join the conversation. Wow. I've tried to figure out. I like that. I'm trying to incorporate like little catch phrases and slog slogan I like it join the conversation mr. games I'm

Starting point is 01:39:34 starting not to like mr. games I legit like. Games This first one's from Zack. Hi Zack. Zack writes best spaceship in a game question mark fuck This is a really good question. You know I mean my mind instantly goes to The Normandy and Mass Effect. It's a great fucking spaceship And you have a whole crew on there And so you really are is as as commander Sh And so you really are as Commander Shepard, you really are just like, like, like, ah, this is, this is my spaceship, but this is also my home base.

Starting point is 01:40:11 This is my, this is my, where I go back to. So that's certainly one I have a lot of affection for, but I gotta think on this. There's some really good spaceships in video games. Piloting the TIE fighter in virtual reality on the PlayStation in Rogue Squadron is an incredible experience and that's the first thing that comes to mind for me. That or Star Fox.

Starting point is 01:40:34 You know what? Six triangles. It's the Star Fox is a good answer. The R-wing is that that's what it's called in Star Fox. I think A-R-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W- Star Fox, I think, A-R-W wing. I think that's what it's called. Anyway, you're making me think of... Yes, it is the R-Wing. Fox McCloud's a maneuverable fighter. You're making me think of, Heather, the X-Wing in TIE Fighter games on PC of the 90s.

Starting point is 01:40:59 Yeah, TIE Fighter was pretty much the apex of that franchise, and piloting a tie fighter which was did not have shields was so fragile You take a couple of blasts from it from a Y-Wing your fucking toast was was such a was such a cool experience Am I miss remembering is Rogue Squadron on PlayStation or was that a PC game that I was playing for in VR? I don't remember where I played it in VR Awesome the more recent one right yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on all platforms. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Cause that's a great game.

Starting point is 01:41:28 I mean, Star Wars ships are typically just really good. They're good ships. I like the Stinger Mantis from Fallen Order and Survivor. Calcestus' ship, great ship. I'm pretty, I don't know if it counts as a a spaceship because so far we haven't seen it go into space Are you saying gummy ship? No? Cuz I don't like like I love gummies nobody likes gum. They're catering right to me. I don't really like gummy ship although the gameplay of the gummy ship levels in

Starting point is 01:42:01 Three three is good. Yeah The ship in that'sing 2 is really good. It's not really a spaceship. The Magellan? Yeah, the DHV Magellan. Sam. It's... Sam, it's Charlie.

Starting point is 01:42:17 You gotta get back to the DHV Magellan. Sam, I think we should get back to the DHV Magellan. I have something so funny that I want to say But I can't I feel like it's like a it's not really a spoiler Just say it. Tar man There's a part In the game, so it's early on enough where the ship is stuck in Tar and Tar man's like Yeah, I don't know how this ship got fucking stuck in tar. I'm like your tar man

Starting point is 01:42:50 It's your whole thing babe You know I'm thinking back on schmups. I mean like there's there's certainly you know a lot of a lot of schmups that have featured spaceships Gradius is the one that I'm thinking of yeah The creatures, spaceships, Gradius is the one that I'm thinking of. The Gradius franchise. Oh yeah, Ikaruga, yeah, there you go. The treasure game. But also FTL, probably the FTL,

Starting point is 01:43:12 even though I love FTL, play the shit out of it, is that there's not one spaceship, but the idea of a spaceship management thing is very fun. So I do have a lot of affection for the spaceships in that game But also Heather Final Fantasy 8 your your airship does become a spaceship at a certain true. It's true and that insane fucking game Spaceships are just good. Yeah spaceships are good. Yeah, I don't think there's one where I'm like this one kind of fucking sucks

Starting point is 01:43:44 Yeah, fuck great question Zach. Yeah, I don't think there's one where I'm like this one kind of fucking sucks. Yeah, fuck great question Zach Yeah, really really good Honestly could do a whole episode of space ships probably we should We got we got two episodes a day We got three at the end. We got the the spaceships. Oh, yeah, well of course and we got the cousin games Rochelle where do you stand on space ships? Scary.

Starting point is 01:44:06 Scary! Scary! Yeah. Well then no one can hear your scream, certainly. I don't like space. You don't like the idea of space. No. Anxious, anxious. That makes sense.

Starting point is 01:44:13 Oh, fuck. Alien isolation's got a good ship. Well... Or is it a space station? Not if you don't want an alien on there. It'd be way better if there was no alien on it. Pretty bad ship, is what I'm concerned. I think it's one of the worst shit. There's a fucking xenomorph on there.

Starting point is 01:44:28 It sucks. This next one's from Extra Medium XL. What's up, Extra Medium XL? What's up, Extra Medium XL? Should Duke Nukem come back? Now let me just answer this real quick. Hard no. Hard no. just answer this real quick hard no Hard no, I don't know about hard no, but like I I'm gonna tell you what's hard

Starting point is 01:44:59 Just woke up. I'm pissing on my chin. Ranch do you know who Duke Nukem is? No. He's a problematic king. Yeah, you might want to, if you do a little quick, a quick Bing search for Duke Nukem, you might have a little bit more context for him, but yeah, he's a sunglasses wearing, flat top guy with guns, very much like a kind of a pastiche

Starting point is 01:45:33 of all the action movie stars of the 90s, your Schwarzenegger's, your Stallone's, your Dolph Lundgren's, and your Seagulls, but he also like is so fucking annoying. And has just an array of catchphrases, and is also like, shake it baby, and damn, I'm looking good. Hail to the king, baby.

Starting point is 01:45:57 Yeah, and a lot of his catchphrases are just stolen from movies and stuff. Yeah, exactly. My dick looks like pale poop. It's bumpy and has cracks. I almost said stolen from John Waters movies. That's not true, it's not John Waters. He'd be a little more interested.

Starting point is 01:46:18 No, it's like They Live and, you know, Evil Dead. Yeah. Sam Raimi movies. No, it's like They Live and Evil Dead, and the Sam Raimi movies. Now it would be stuff from Marvel movies, if he was back. I can't even come up with an example. Well, no, but he would just say, if they made Duke Nukem and follow their same rules, he would just be like, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.

Starting point is 01:46:44 He would just say a line from John Wick verbatim. Honestly, now I kind of want him to come back. He should come back and say exactly that. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back. Yeah, they're asking me if I'm back and I've never really had an answer, but yeah, I'm thinking I'm back. He shoots somebody, he's just like, and I am Iron Man.

Starting point is 01:47:02 It's not, boo! Thigh knife, chip and shatter. John Carpenter, I could not pull that name for some fucking reason. Lisa Nalgaid. Jesus Christ. My brain is rotted. It would be awesome if he was like,

Starting point is 01:47:19 if he became like a big Dune guy. It would be really awesome. Dune Nukum. Yeah, my name's Dune now. He'd be really awesome. Dune Newcomb. Yeah, my name's Dune now. I think Duke Newcomb, I think there is a period, I think we're in an era where you could resurface Duke Newcomb if you treated him with the proper sort of, and maybe this is an obvious take,

Starting point is 01:47:39 but you could do an Austin Powers Duke Newcomb where he's coming back. Instead of this cool, tough guy, he's like an object of like, you know, of mockery. And he's also kind of being shamed for his problematic behavior. But him doing his problematic behavior in 2020, in the 2020s is part of the fun.

Starting point is 01:47:57 Alternate take. We start in a warehouse and there's a kid, and the kid is like rummaging through some, some like barrels and getting items and stuff and then off screen you know you hear, boy. And it's just recontextualizing him as a father. It's a sad dad game with Duke Nukem. Hail to my son.

Starting point is 01:48:24 I miss my dead wife. He should come back. I worry that the wrong people will co-opt him and use him for evil, but I do think he could come back. I could see him being the fucking most annoying edgelord reboot of just like they won't, they wouldn't let us make games like this anymore, but we said fuck you you know me like I can see because like that's that's not the angle. I think like you Could honor what Duke Nukem was in the 90s, but also like comment on you know What was fucking stupid about him to yeah in a modern reconductualization?

Starting point is 01:49:01 I don't think he was cool in the 90s. Like when you played that game, you weren't like, this guy's awesome. It was a little bit like, this guy kinda sucks. I think he had a different circle of friends than me. Because we're like, we thought it was funny that he could piss and like, you know, shoot a shotgun at a stripper or whatever. Ranchy can piss.

Starting point is 01:49:20 Yeah, you can make him piss. And can you throw poop too? I think there are turds in the game, but I don't think you actually physically grab them and throw them. I'm holding my own shit in my hand. This was previously in my ass. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:49:34 And it's going back there. Does it work if they... Do we will listen to existence a live-action Duke Nukem like show or movie and it's like John Cena or something is he like the guy to do it? Yeah, I mean it could be something like that But also you don't want to be like too self-aware and too cheeky because that gets annoying in a different way You know what I mean? It's like I guess I also am looking at a picture of Duke Nukem and John Cena.

Starting point is 01:50:08 I didn't realize it, because I didn't see the top of his head. Right, like that's kind of like the, I think that would be a lot of first thought, best thought casting would be like, oh, let's get a guy like that, but I think there's another approach you could take with it. I think it should be the guy who plays Reacher. That dude is huge.

Starting point is 01:50:23 That's awesome. That's actually really good. That's a different segment, of course. Segment Dreamcast, and we'll do it someday. We're in a time where there have been attempts at a retro-style FPS game. Maybe that's the way that you could use Duke Nukem. Because obviously the Doom franchise has gone off and is fully modern now. game you know and maybe like maybe that's like the way that you you could use Duke Nukem is like

Starting point is 01:50:45 Because obviously the doom franchise has gone off and is as fully modern now So it's like but Duke Nukem might be the sort of thing of like there was one there was Duke Nukem forever which was a fucking a debacle though more playable than I think it You know it was expected to be after being delayed forever and then completely remade from scratch but That's basically been it for Duke Nukem since Duke nukem 3d right? Yeah, it's like I think you could sort of be like hey this guy's back And we're just gonna do like a 90s style with a 90s aesthetic similar in the same way that the new ninja guide in Raid ragebound is like hey. This is like a classic. You know a 2d game. I don't know

Starting point is 01:51:21 I think there's a way to do it. Let's bring him back. Yeah, let's bring back our boy And I'm woke now I have the woke mind virus I gave my brain an STD This next one's from who invited Zack. Hi who invited Zack as separate from who Zack You know I didn't realize that. Yeah, it's a separate Zach. We got Zach and then who invited Zach? It was like shots fired at Zach.

Starting point is 01:51:50 Shots fired at Zach, unfortunately. I invited Zach. And he had a good question. Great question. Who invited Zach writes, Do you think a glass of ice cold milk goes with popcorn or is this a weird take that only I subscribe to? I feel like Nick would like it TBH,

Starting point is 01:52:07 but Nick is a popcorn skeptic. I'm a popcorn skeptic, so you got me read wrong there a little bit. I do like milk though, but yeah, that feels like a weird combo. I can kind of see what you're going for with it, but it feels like you're dairy and- Butter's dairy, cheese goes on popcorn.

Starting point is 01:52:21 Yeah, but it also like, doesn't it feel like dairy on top of dairy. Like doesn't that feel like it's a little Nga Pachka? You're just asking, like, I can't think of something I think I find more revolting in my life than a glass of milk. What the, what? I, uh- As a snack?

Starting point is 01:52:41 Popcorn gives me a tummy ache, so I have to eat it very, very small amounts. Yeah. Because it gives me a tummy ache so I have to eat it very very small amounts. Yeah, give me a tummy ache It's hard digestion food. I Can't imagine chasing it with milk which also gives me It's like a race of who did it first Are she worrying on popcorn and milk? I love popcorn don't like milk Bear I love popcorn popcorns like I love it. I love popcorn. Popcorn's like, I- I love it.

Starting point is 01:53:06 I love it. You mean, tell me, yeah, if I eat enough of it, it'll get to me. Big soda if I'm having a popcorn. Big soda and if nothing else, water. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I think I need a-

Starting point is 01:53:17 Would you have a milkshake with popcorn? I'd have an Icy with popcorn, but that's not milk. I would have, cause that feels like a thing in like Alamo draft house, they have milkshakes. It feels like, yeah, I could get a milkshake with popcorn, but that's not milk. I would have, because that feels like a thing in Alamo draft house, they have milkshakes, so I was like, yeah, I could get a milkshake with popcorn. But I think this is- Getting a milkshake during a movie is the craziest thing I could think of to me.

Starting point is 01:53:32 What? That's like so insane. My wife has a milkshake almost every time we go to the Alamo. I really, I guess I've not been to the Alamo. I guess I'm just like- That's fucking alpha as hell. Yeah, jealous of her constitution. It's like, I ain't making it through the preview

Starting point is 01:53:51 This next one's from Alice destroy And I think it's a nice little question we're coming up to a decade of link wearing blue in mainline Zelda and corresponding Merchandise a lot of younger gamers probably correlate him with blue and not green like a lot of us. With that being said, when you hear Link, does that, what does he look like in your mind? I still picture him as green even though my experience of him is not green. He's green to me. If you ask me what Link looks like in my mind, it is Toon Link. Even though Toon Link was not the first exposure I had to Link. He was so iconic to me. Ugh. That I have to think Toon Link.

Starting point is 01:54:29 And he's wearing green. I'm picturing. Ugh. Again, also, my first exposure to Link was as a sprite. But I'm not thinking of like the Link to the past Link. I am thinking of the Ocarina of Time, like that model of Link. That's what I think of. And obviously, it makes appearances

Starting point is 01:54:49 in the Smash Brothers franchise as well. And I like that kind of modern adult Link, I guess, is what I'm picturing. Yeah, yeah. I guess, yeah, my most time spent with Link is with Toon Link on the DS in Phantom Hourglass, and then the Breath of the Wild, Tears of the Kingdom Link.

Starting point is 01:55:07 So those are my two Links, but I always do think of him as green, because I've known him as green forever. It is strange, because the first chance I get to get him into green in Breath of the Wild, I do. Oh yeah. Like I get him out of blue as fast as possible. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:55:21 And if you have the amiibo, you can get like Toon Link clothes, and so I'm like, oh, I wanna fucking, I wanna make him look like Toon Link.ibo, you can get like Toon Link clothes. And so I'm like, oh, I wanna fucking, now I'm gonna make him look like Toon Link. Yeah, you can get that unsettling hat that's like a Toon Link head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We used to play Smash Brothers with this guy

Starting point is 01:55:35 who would only pick Blue Link. It was the only, like, he just like, did not have any other alts play the one, the same character, same color way every single time. And it was. And it was you. Fucking... I'm playing by myself.

Starting point is 01:55:47 No, it was like one of those things where it's like, just fucking mix it up, dude. I do like making Donkey Kong different color in Donkey Kong Bonanza. Yeah, it's fun. Oh yeah. He's blue right now. Mine's pink.

Starting point is 01:56:01 It's great. Finally, One Car Pile Up writes. Oh, wow. What a name. With Final Fantasy and Sonic the Hedgehog and Friends now being turned into Magic the Gathering cards, which video game IP could convince you to take another

Starting point is 01:56:18 look at the card game? Now, I think they shouldn't be doing this. I like that Magic the Gathering is kind of its own thing. Yeah, I agree. And the fact that now there's Spider-Man Magic the Gathering cards, I'm sort of like, this is embarrassing to me, actually.

Starting point is 01:56:35 I disagree. I think the Final Fantasy 7 set for Magic the Gathering is, Final Fantasy, I guess, in general, for Magic the Gathering is fucking awesome. I'll allow, no, I'll allow Final Fantasy, but Spider-Man, what are we doing? Yeah, I do feel like the Magic the Gathering, you know, one-offs, should be fantasy-based.

Starting point is 01:56:54 So like, you could have Dragon Warrior in there, you could have Final Fantasy in there, you could have- The Green Knight. You could have The Witcher in there, like all of those work. What did you, what? I said The Green Knight. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Starting point is 01:57:07 It'd be kind of funny if he was in there. It'd be interesting if they took the King Arthur, The Green Knight, and made him a, but I mean like that's the kind of thing that would actually, you know, that's part of what inspired High Fantasy. His powers, cummy hand. Well now you're specifically talking about the movie.

Starting point is 01:57:29 Which I guess that could be it. That could be one approach. I guess I find it weird that Spider-Man's in there too. It just don't, it doesn't sit right with me. And it's not my, you know, not my circus, not my monkey's. Yeah, I don't want to yuck anybody's yums. So if you like Spider-Man and Magic the Gathering, go for it. I do think Magic the Gathering arena is fun. Like it's a fun, the way you like spider-man and magic the gathering go for it I do think magic the gathering arena is fun like it's a fun if the way you like I feel like the Pokemon card game. Oh, yeah, you could probably get really into the magic the gathering app card game

Starting point is 01:57:55 I think well. I've played. Yeah, I've played magic like I know how to play magic. I I Guess I just don't I like the world of Pokemon more. I'd rather play with my boys than a dark elf druid who's gotta use his swamp to generate magic. Now how about this as a thought experiment? Pokemon Magic the Gathering cards. They're not Pokemon cards. They're Magic the Gathering cards, but they have Pokemon.

Starting point is 01:58:21 Sure. That's kinda interesting. Can you imagine sitting down at a table at a Magic the Gathering like like Convention yeah, and only playing Pokemon based magic Lock they have a Final Fantasy 6 commander deck this looks fucking rad the cards the art is really really nice But the question is I guess what video game IP would convince you to take another look at it. I mean Gosh um The question is, I guess, what video game IP would convince you to take another look at it? I mean, gosh.

Starting point is 01:58:50 I've been trying to get back into MTG, like just in general, commander specifically, and just like, you know, the tough thing is that I just don't have anyone to play with. Certainly where I live, the friends I have who do play are on the other side of town, so it's like, am I going to commit to a big experience to get some hands? I don't know. I haven't delved back into it yet.

Starting point is 01:59:14 But as far as something that I would buy, I mean, look, here's the thing. They already did a Baldur's Gate set. That was really cool. And that almost had me wanting to buy it, wanting to dip back in. But I feel like if they did something, you know what? I feel like if they did a Ghibli crossover, that would be the kind of thing where like if they had like, hey, we're doing, there's gonna be some Princess Baradoke

Starting point is 01:59:41 and Howl's Moving Castle, like some of that stuff is going to be in there. I was like, that'd be the kind of thing. He's like, okay, I'd dip it in on that bad boy. Mine would be brands. Like if Coca-Cola and Adidas and like brands, like it was just like Toyota card. Like if you could make a deck out of brands,

Starting point is 02:00:02 and they just had like, just the name of the brand. It like I play coca-cola against your Dwarven elf mage, but it's like I play I play play payless shoes Putting it on my peloton card My answer of course is Kingdom Hearts. Oh, yeah hearts two Hearts cards, I'd be playing, no shit. What if they announced a Duke Nukem set? I got the piss card. Thick piss.

Starting point is 02:00:35 They all have Duke Nukem quotes on it? Yeah. As flavor text, this fucking sucks. I hate this. The cards stink. You win because your opponent just leaves. Forfeit, fuck you. These sunglasses are stuck to my face. With gum.

Starting point is 02:00:59 Only some of it is mine. What are you doing, dude? I don't sit down to take a shit They should just give us the idea Sitting for shitting is for girls We could I think another way to do it would be to go this direction where it's just like I'm crazy He's so masculine that it's unrecognizable like like I fuck car tires Walk by a tire, and he's like oh, yeah

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