Get Played - Our Top Ten Games of All Time

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

Matt, Heather and Nick talk about Control & Alan Wake 2, Overcooked and Baldur's Gate 3 and each give their Top Ten Games of All Time. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram @getplayedpo...d.Music by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.com.Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com.Check out our Anime watchalong podcast Get Anime'd and our complete Get Played, How Did This Get Played? and Premium DLC back catalogue only on patreon.com/getplayed.Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at getplayedpod@gmail.com Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:40 Succession. Wait, I know it doesn't. Like, apparently it's a bit of a prequel. You know, so some like anyway I'm just really excited I love the show you know HBO's succession is like it's like you know prestige drama uh and they've released uh they've just they dropped the first episode of of the new season on uh just yesterday do you mind if we play a little bit of it so that I can like I love it we were going to talk about our top 10 games all the time but I think that has on just yesterday. Do you mind if we play a little bit of it so that I can... I'd love to watch it.
Starting point is 00:02:07 We were going to talk about our top 10 games all the time, but I think that has to wait. We've got to watch this succession trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every single fight, no matter how big or small, has a story behind it. It's Logan Roy.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It's Logan Roy. Let's go, Logan. Fuck off. That's why when it comes to Tekken and the King of Iron Fist tournament... There's one hell of a story to tell. I don't understand. This is good. It's like a recap.
Starting point is 00:02:45 It's a recap of Succession. No. In Tekken 8, Jin Kazama will face off against his father, Yeah, this is like when Connor and Kendall fight. And since Jin is the only other person who possesses the Devil Gene as well, he may be the only chance the world has left. But how did we even get to this point? What the hell is a devil gene? And why
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Starting point is 00:03:29 their tryst, as you'd call it. This is huge. I'm going to say the opposite, which is that I feel like it was, too many TV shows end on a low note when they could have gone out on a high note. And it seems to me like, you know, the finale of Succession was so good. I don't want to see Logan Roy talking about Tekken.
Starting point is 00:03:57 We take a trip down memory lane and understand the difference between objectivity and subjectivity as we reveal our personal all-time top 10 list this week on Get Played. Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nick Weiger. That's me, Nick Weiger, and I'm here with our third host, Matt Abadaka. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone. And welcome back to the premiere video game podcast, where once upon a time, we only discussed the worst and weirdest video games. But now we have entered into our permanent era where we only talk about things we want
Starting point is 00:04:59 to talk about. And sometimes that's bad games. But this week, we are talking about games that we really, really, really want to talk about. I'm so excited about this episode and I'm so excited to be back, even if it's just for a week. here and i'm glad that we're doing this episode could not be more opposite of our old format where we're immersing ourselves in the you know the the dreck of gaming and now we are just talking about the games that are our most beloved we are all giving our personal top 10 lists yeah and it's important it's i want to highlight something else that heather said that i think is really important too we talk about the stuff we want to talk about in the show this podcast has no filter okay we we sort of we it's raw yeah and it's it's uncut and there's just no filters you just never know what we're gonna say yeah i would
Starting point is 00:05:54 not describe the studio we're currently in as a safe space no no so if you are uh worried about hearing something you don't want to hear uh you might want to turn the volume down. If you're a snowflake out there, you're going to get melted. Yeah, sorry, Frosty. What? It's just how it is now. You said you missed us. This is anyone's first episode of the podcast. That is something that I do think about a lot, is that any episode of any podcast could be somebody's first episode it's
Starting point is 00:06:25 always an honor it's always somebody's on ramp to what you're what you're doing what you're offering so i should also now say i was just kidding yeah i was just kidding i was doing kidding and heather was legitimately confused yeah yes uh we should talk about a couple of things before we get to these a couple of logistical things before we get to our all-time top 10 list and also talk about some games we're playing right now. First thing, and we touched on all this. I touched on all this in my little monologue I did last week before the episode. But since we're all here and we're caught up to the present, we're recording this in January of 2024 for an episode that's coming out next week. I think we should touch on these things as a unit.
Starting point is 00:07:06 First up, you talked about our old format, Heather. Our pre-HeadGum back catalog is now available on our Patreon. That's right. So if you go to patreon.com slash getplayed, you can not only get Get Animated, which is our weekly anime recap show that comes out every Wednesday, but you can also get the entire back catalog
Starting point is 00:07:24 of pre-HeadGum Get Played episodes and How Did This Get Played episodes as well as our premium DLC format. That is all available on our Patreon. Also, Heather, you and I should give a little shout out to Matt because Matt did the raw legwork of just getting all this shit uploaded
Starting point is 00:07:40 manually. I saw all the audio and like I... That's a normal thing to say. Raw legwork. He what? I saw all the audio. That's a normal thing to say. Raw leg work. The fuck? I was doing squats when I did it all. It is kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You guys can't see me because it's an audio podcast. Raw. My calves are juicy. Why is that the first adjective that came to your mind? That's the first adjective that came to your mind when he did the tough production work of uploading all of these episodes to our Patreon. And yeah, he deserves a shout out. But in no world would I be like, my friend Matt Apodaca just raw produced. Raw anything. Raw, no, there's some some Raw blank There's some raw thing
Starting point is 00:08:26 That's an actual thing That I could have said But that's not where I landed But I can't My brain couldn't think of it So I went to leg work Raw fucked Raw fuck
Starting point is 00:08:34 Matt raw fucked All these episodes So Manually All 180 Or however many there were We got Just because
Starting point is 00:08:42 This might be Somebody's first episode We're just kidding We're just kidding. I did take time during our break to, I won't get into too many details of it. It wasn't, look. Yeah, because apparently you did it raw. I don't want to know any of the fucking details.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Because I don't want to make it seem like I'm some hero, okay? It took me several days. It took several hours each day I did this. But it was all for the grand prize of it being worth it for the listener and for... So they finally had a space to actually hear these episodes because they were previously paywalled and Stitcher Premium went down and decided no longer no longer existed and had no, you know, there was no plan for them to exist elsewhere after that. So it just took a little bit of doing, but it was ultimately very worth it.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And I'm very happy that people that want to hear those episodes can now. Well, we're grateful you did it and hopefully the listeners are as well. Thank you for doing that. Yeah. Imagine they're ungrateful. I'm sure that all six of the most parasocially intense listeners are really excited to be able to listen to all of those.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah. Just kidding. I love the listeners. And I interact with them a lot on Discord and Fortnite. So, yeah, that's all very exciting. Again, you can get the Get Played Back catalog as a, or you can get that as a bundle with get animated. Uh, that's,
Starting point is 00:10:06 that's available to you on our Patreon. Also want to shout out Ben Prunty, uh, the great composer behind, uh, behind FTL, uh, into the breach,
Starting point is 00:10:15 um, subnautica below zero. Uh, one of my favorite working video game composers who composed our new theme song, which you're hearing every week now. And also want to shout out, uh, Ben Prunty music.com.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Also want to shout out duck brigade design,music.com. Also want to shout out Duck Brigade Design, who made our new show art, which you're seeing as the podcast title, duckbrigade.com. Are we a functional podcast now? Is that what's happening to us? Because we got this, like, we've got, like, a real fucking cool
Starting point is 00:10:39 name composer to write our theme. We've got this incredible new art, an incredible new home. We've got an organized back catalog. Are we functional? I think we're functional. I think we're functional. I think we're operating at a new level.
Starting point is 00:10:57 We have a great new producer, Rochelle Chen, who's with us, been helping us out. I think the one liability remains the hosts. Yeah. So once we iron us out. I think the one liability remains the hosts. Yeah. So once we iron that out. And just to go back to this point from earlier, it's because you'd never know what we're going to say. It's all raw. It's unfiltered, uncensored.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And it's, I mean, it is raw. We can go ahead and say that's raw. Yeah. See, their raw makes sense. What you just said makes sense. Yeah. Matt did the raw legwork of using that properly. Let's talk about some video games, because we have a lot of show to get to, and we don't have the largest window to get through this.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I think this might be a big boy. I think so. We got to go? I don't know. Don't you have to go? I don't have to go. Oh, then never mind. Then maybe we don't.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Let him cook, I say. Maybe we might have some time uh so we'll we but we do have a lot of show to get to whatever our time constraints so let me ask the question uh that we ask every episode what are you playing what are you playing wow resident evil merchant from resident evil 4 perhaps might turn up on one or more of our top ten all-time lists. Wait, is that true? It's possible. I don't know. I haven't seen everybody's list. I haven't revealed my own list. I would be honored. I would be honored to show up on a top ten list.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm here to ask the question I always ask. Who are you playing? And also to announce that I'm in therapy. Oh, that's great good for you thank you you know what i've learned is that you that what what you tell a therapist is a secret i mean i think that has some limits i think if you if a i just know this from the sopranos if a therapist is made away aware of ongoing criminal act, they may have to inform the authorities. I gotta go.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You guys got this. I'll see you next week. I don't know. I gotta get it. Oh, boy. I gotta make some phone calls. Okay. What are you playing? See ya. We're glad you're working on yourself wherever you have to go now. That's good for Okay. Uh, what are you playing? We're glad you're working on yourself, uh, wherever you have to go now.
Starting point is 00:13:08 That's, that's good for everybody. that's good. But just, um, you can't fall in love with your therapist either. That's another thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:14 They, they legally can't date you. You can't. I wish, I wish he was still here. Cause I feel like he should know that too. Oh yeah. No,
Starting point is 00:13:21 you can tell he's an absolute simp for his therapist. We, we, we hate to see it actually. Um, Who wants to go first? I had a sort of Alan Wake Remastered. This was back in November of 2023. And that was the last game that I... Actually, this is not true. This was one of the last games I finished for the year. But during the holiday break, I took down two more.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Two more Remedy games. Wow. Control and Alan Wake 2. And they're all... Holy shit're all you know part of a shared universe right which i was delighted by and it's not but it's not like a shared universe in the way that feels dumb now where it's like sort of cheap like the stuff in each game that is a reference to the other games feels earned and also um if it wasn't it you wouldn't notice it if you weren't playing the game like you just think of oh this is an interesting um piece of lore or whatever but i i played through control and i was liking it a great
Starting point is 00:14:41 deal more than i liked alan wake one because 1. Because Alan Wake is a little bit dated, control-wise and stuff. Control is just a more fun video game. I said this to a few people. I think the lesson they learned from alan wake was they wanted to make a fun video game instead and then they made control and control is like there was a sequence in it that i won't spoil uh for those of you that haven't played it but i texted you guys when i finished it and i was like i think this just crossed over into this is one of the best games i've ever played ever yes Yes. It was unbelievable to me.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And I played the DLC. Loved that. There's a lot of side stuff that I didn't do that I'd like to revisit. Honestly, I might like to play through it again. I really loved it. And I watched several YouTube videos about about control and about like the wider Remedyverse at large. But then I was like, okay, now I'm ready. I'm ready to go into Alan Wake 2.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And I wasn't ready, actually. I was not ready. That game is very scary. It's a lot scarier than Alan Wake 1. And Control has some scary stuff in it but heather you played control i wouldn't classify control as a horror game at all yeah it's not it's not a horror game and i did play some of control i did i did stop like right before the final boss or something because i was just like i don't i don't look to it. So it's really exciting to me that you connected with it so much.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah. And that you connected with all these games because it's so great to just love stuff. Oh my God, it's so great. That's how I felt playing this because my love of these games propelled me through Alan Wake 2 despite wanting to stop playing it every 10 minutes because it was
Starting point is 00:16:45 I just couldn't believe that I was playing a horror game for fun like it was legitimately terrifying at times and my fiance told me that I that I didn't look like I was having fun while I was playing it
Starting point is 00:17:02 which I thought was really funny she was like do you like this game? I was like yeah I love it she was like you look like you're having a miserable time I was like I am, I'm having a while I was playing it, which I thought was really funny. She's like, do you like this game? I was like, yeah, I love it. She's like, you look like you're having a miserable time. I was like, I am. I'm having a horrible time playing this. And I just thought it was really interesting, and I loved Saga as a character. Saga is a new detective in the game,
Starting point is 00:17:18 or is a detective in the game that is investigating just the goings-on in Cauldron Lake and thereabouts, and Alan comes into the story in an interesting way. I've been watching clips of interviews with the game's director and the creator of these games, Sam Lake. Oh, yeah. I didn't really know anything about him,
Starting point is 00:17:45 but he's basically finished Hideo Kojima, but he goes a step further and just puts himself in the games. Like, he's just a full-on character in Alan Wake 2. The rocks. And, like, he's the character model for this detective Alex Casey, but then there's this meta element of the game
Starting point is 00:18:04 where Alex Casey is a character in Alan Wake's books but he's confused as to why he's in the books uh but he's a real guy who is a detective and how did he get these details but then there's another meta layer above that where Sam Lake is an actor who portrays Alex Casey in these uh in these games and movies and stuff and so he's just like in it as like himself as an actor. And it's very, it's just wild, but he's,
Starting point is 00:18:29 he's great. And I think he seems like a, a pretty cool guy. Um, did you ever play the Max Payne games? He's Max Payne, right? That he's his face model for Max Payne,
Starting point is 00:18:37 right? Yeah. At least for the first two. Um, I don't know if he is for the third cause I think, I think rockstar did Max Payne three. but I, I've just really in love with these games. And I finished Alan Wake 2 pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:18:51 There's a lot of stuff that I didn't even get to see in Alan Wake 2 that I'm not too eager to revisit. Because it was, I had a hard time. I was like screaming while I was playing the game. Like just making noise wow or in often being like where like because i would hear something and not see it there was there was a new time just imagining your fiancee in your apartment hearing you in the other room just go where horrible and uh there's these new guys that sort of reminded me of something you'd see in silent hill where uh if you're familiar with alan wake the
Starting point is 00:19:31 the taken are these like shadow entities they're the main enemies in this game and they mostly look like shadows and you shine your light on them and they sort of look like blurry people which is scary enough like if somebody came light on them and they sort of look like blurry people, which is scary enough. Like if somebody came up to you and they were blurry but nothing else was, you'd be scared. And then. 100%. There are these other types that fly and zoom around really fast. But then there's these other type.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Then this is where the type that reminded me of Silent Hill, particularly Silent Hill 2, where it's an upper torso of a person. Yeah. And then the bottom half is's an upper torso of a person. Yeah. And then the bottom half is also an upper torso. And so we've seen the legs on legs, but the actual scarier part of it is upper torso and upper torso because both can scream. So they did a really great job and it has a cool like um uh i don't know if you guys watch the true detective show at all but uh it has that sort of like detective vibe that sort of like new uh like neo-noir type of detective storytelling that
Starting point is 00:20:40 i really i really love and uh i i highly recommend the game to anybody. Because also, it plays so much better than Alan Wake 1. It's just a refined, really nice game, and good story, and I can't wait for more. But I don't think I liked it as much as Control, because Control just knocked my socks off. I loved Control so much.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And it's because I like that vibe more. Sure. The control, the vibe in Control I loved Control so much. And it's because I like that vibe more. That's- Sure. The control, the vibe and control scratches that itch of, like, when I was watching Lost and I was like, what's the Dharma Initiative? What is that? I would like to know more about what's going on with that. That seems interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It has all this, like, brutalist architecture in the game. There's, like, not a lot of anything else. So you just see, like, everything in the game is gray kind of, and it just kind of looked interesting and, um, interesting setting for, uh, for a video game.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And I, I really loved it. Um, but, uh, that's, I mean, that's a big update for me.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Finished two games. Huge update. Last game of 2023 was control. First game of 2024 was Alan Wake 2. Um, you've sold me on Alan Wake 2 at minimum. Hell yes. And I definitely, I mean, I've heard so much about that game and I definitely got to check it out at some point.
Starting point is 00:21:53 That's a great rundown. Heather, what have you been playing? So my wife says to me one day, hey, I want to play the cooking game. And I went, OK, I don't know what that is and she's like there's a cooking game that people talk about that's super fun and I want to play it with you and my friend and I went oh does your friend play it and she's like no we're gonna introduce it to my friend Courtney we're gonna uh we're all gonna play the cooking game and I was like okay so I looked up cooking games and my first thought was Cooking Mama because it's the only one that I know of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:27 But apparently, and this will come as no surprise to literally everybody who listens to the podcast, because the eighth best-selling Nintendo Switch game of last year was Overcooked the Game. Overcooked 1 and 2 Collection, right? So this is a massive hit that was totally in a blind spot for me. We loaded up for Courtney and Mary and myself, and we learned to play Overcooked, which is a post-apocalyptic cooking simulator, but it's more like a restaurant simulator. Post-apocalyptic cooking simulator, but it's more like a restaurant simulator. Post-apocalyptic?
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yes. Wow, okay. It's post-apocalyptic. So the cold open is it's the post-apocalypse and you have to cook for this beast who is demanding food. And you try very hard to effectively beat the final boss, fail miserably,
Starting point is 00:23:30 and a king made out of an onion and his dog time travel you back to 1993 so you have enough time to learn how to run a restaurant so that you could eventually save the world from this meatball and spaghetti based monster. The gameplay is often that the restaurant is poorly designed and you and up to three other players have to manage the tasks of a restaurant while fulfilling orders. So one of you is chopping vegetables. One of you is cooking food. One of you is assembling the food.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So like if it's a cheeseburger restaurant, somebody's grabbing the shredded lettuce and putting it on a bun and then grabbing the tomato. Up at the top of your screen is a list of the orders in the priority that they need to be served or serviced. And you have to get these orders out the door while also then cooking the dishes that return to you in a madcap bomber man sort of perspective. Like it's a top down, like maybe slightly isometric perspective. And it's a lot of communication between you and the other players because like you'll set out with a plan and you'll be like, okay, I'm going to chop and plate. And then somebody else would be like, great, I'm going to cook and wash. But inevitably, the restaurant, the chaos of the restaurant means that you have to improvise a little on the fly and somebody yells, you know, I'll take the order. I'll take the order.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And they run across the room to drop off the order. When I say that the food or that the restaurants are poorly designed. I mean that after your initial level that takes place basically in a restaurant, you are then cooking in the middle of busy streets. So there's pedestrians running around inside of your restaurant. Or you are cooking on the top of two cars, which are moving at slightly different speeds. So sometimes you cannot cross from one part of the restaurant into the other part of the restaurant. Sometimes there is an earthquake, which
Starting point is 00:25:58 shifts the levels of the restaurant. So you can only go from one part to another part. shifts the levels of the restaurant so you can only go from one part to another part and then you are trapped there until an earthquake resets the levels and then you can only go from one part to the other part um the kitchen will catch fire it is it's it's a party game in that it is designed for multiple people but it is a strategy game in that it is not you cannot just fucking wing it like if you wing it you're fucked so it is it's a really good bridge game for people who love to play video games and people who want to have like just a party experience um shortly after my mother started playing it so now i've got a four-player team then then yeah gail got into it then some of my uh permanent fortnight squad members were like yo i saw that you play overcooked i play overcooked we gotta squad up in overcooked
Starting point is 00:27:02 this is like it's like i it's like I lifted the carpet and found an entire society. Everybody knows about this game. Everybody plays it and everybody's having a blast. And the truth is, so did I. I look forward to my next round of Overcooked with Mary, Courtney, my mom, or my friend Darius or whoever the fuck it is
Starting point is 00:27:24 that ends up playing Overcooked with me. It's also cross-platform. So my mom's uh my friend Darius or whoever the fuck it is that ends up playing Overcooked with me it's also cross-platform so my mom's playing on a Switch I'm playing on a PlayStation uh it's you know it's it's a good game that's awesome and totally not my kind of game like you cannot kill anyone uh you can I mean count, like, that none of the food is vegan. But this is like... I also... I was going to say, this is like an extension of your philosophy about what combat is. I feel like working in a restaurant is combat.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Sure. That is like... Oh, for sure. It's all combat. Like, when you say, thank you, chef, you're basically saying thank you, general. Yeah. And the gameplay, there is no downtime in this game. Like you can't take it.
Starting point is 00:28:16 If you take a break, then the kitchen starts on fire and you have to grab the fire extinguisher and put out the fires. Like it's it's it is constant constant engagement and thus constant reward so you're totally right it is it's kitchen combat um but you know the only the only knives you wield are the ones chopping onions love it um side note i got a playstation portal all right let's go Two of the three of us now have PlayStation Portals. Portal gang, rise up. This is what I'm talking about. Portal gang, rise up.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Why'd I get it? Because some days I can't get out of bed. You have a better excuse than me. This treatment is rough. I only have one chemotherapy session left. Let's fucking go, dog. Then I probably won't ever touch my PlayStation portal ever again. You think that.
Starting point is 00:29:10 But, you know, for the time being. You think that. You think that? Because of where I know your PlayStation is located, right? It's not necessarily, it's not in the home, right? But you might want to be on the couch with mary or something but you might also want to be playing something in the garage right this portal now your playstation's inside the house that's actually not so bad playstation no well yeah i guess yeah
Starting point is 00:29:39 i guess now you're the playstation is what i was trying to say that's's great. I'm so excited. I will say I can't believe it, but I can completely believe it that when this thing was announced, we on this podcast were like, this is fucking stupid. Who's this piece of shit for? And now two of the three of us own one. And by year's end, Nick will be bullied into having one as well.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Year's end. We'll see you next week. It's in part because like this the Steam Deck doesn't there are ways to do it with the Steam Deck or whatever but but you can't like it's there's just not a convenient I have the
Starting point is 00:30:19 backbone but there's not like a truly convenient pick up and play option for for uh remote play on a playstation which is which is bullshit also because the vita exists let me fucking if if you're an insane person who has a vita let me remote play the same architecture it has to be sony's too lazy to build new architecture. So I've heard that the lag on a PlayStation portal that is in the same room and direct connected to the PlayStation 5 is worse than the Wii U. And that's how I know that they didn't update their architecture from
Starting point is 00:31:01 PlayStation 4 to PlayStation 5. Wow. What are you playing? Thank you for asking, Heather. You know, last time we took a winter hiatus in 2022 into 2023, I played through a 100-plus hour RPG, which became an all-timer for me. That game was Persona 5 Royal. Will it make my top 10 list? We're going to find out. This past winter hiatus, 2023 going into 2024, I played through another 100 plus hour RPG, which is now an all-timer for me,
Starting point is 00:31:32 Baldur's Gate 3. I have finished Baldur's Gate 3, and I have started a new game on Tactician. Incredible. Also, will it make my list? We're going to find out. But let me just talk about this game a little bit. And you know me. I could do a one-hour unbroken monologue on Baldur's Gate 3. I'm not going to subject anyone to this, but you know I could do it. So I'm just saying that. I have a lot of thoughts here. I'm compressing them a little bit.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I have a lot of things I could complain about this game, but I'm just going to give this a full-throated rave right now because I think it's an absolute masterpiece. A raw rave. I think this is a raw rave because I think it's an unmissable gaming experience. So he said raw and he said full-throated. So what was Nick doing right before we started this record? Yeah, you know.
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Starting point is 00:35:58 So the bulk of my D&D experience I realized as I was playing this game has been through single-player PC games. You know, I've played some tabletop, I've played some PNP, but overall, like, most of what I've done with D&D has been PC games. You know, I've played some tabletop. I've played some PNP. But overall, like most of what I've done with D&D has been PC games. And, you know, that includes the Gold Box games back in the day. Eye of the Beholder, Dark Sun, Shattered Lands. One of the few people played that. Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale. I played all these games.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I think Baldur's Gate 3 is the best single-player D&D video game experience and one of the best RPGs ever made. I just think it's the best reflection of what I've experienced playing D&D offline, not playing it on a computer. I think it's the best translation, and I don't think this is necessarily even a controversial opinion. If you want to argue for Neverwinter Nights or something like that, fine, but I think that's a lot less accessible or a lot less approachable for the average player. For me, it's BG3. there are there i think six different instruments you can pick as a bard you will come across other street performers and you will hear them playing a certain song you can join in playing that song and it will sync up to tempo and you know for instance my character is playing a lute so if i come across someone playing a flute then it would just become a duet and the two of us would
Starting point is 00:37:16 be playing together in harmony you can do this with up to you know with what you can do this with full instrumentation if you like you want to give every every party member an axe um a figurative axe because there are literal axes in this game it's there there's silver tongue dialogue choices you get as a bard where you can talk multiple bosses into committing suicide i know that's not like a thing that's you know that's a thing that's been in other video games i'm gonna respec i'm gonna respec i'm respecting right now i'm respecting the the the moments when i hit that i was like this is great this is i'd rather do this than have this boss fight not just be not just for ease but just because it's like
Starting point is 00:37:51 such a memorable moment uh in this experience uh so i will say that i and i said this when i was playing it earlier i finished on explorer mode that's what i played on which is the easy mode um and the new game i'm playing is on tactician which is the hard mode. And the new game I'm playing is on tactician, which is the hard mode. They've since patched in a hardcore mode honor mode, which I'm not going to play yet. I have zero regrets about playing it on explore because this game is so complex and inscrutable. It took me like 30 hours just to figure out the quirks of combat and the UX.
Starting point is 00:38:18 This was with watching like endless YouTube videos of like 15 things you missed in combat. You know, once I, once I clocked all that, once I figured it all out, the combat became trivial, but it was still so fun because there's just so many ways to play through one of these encounters. And I'm now well into Act One, like like pretty deep into Act One on Tactician.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And each combat encounter now has the stakes of a boss fight. It's just unforgiving. Every turn matters. And knowing how to play it, it's just an absolute blast when I'm like, okay, well, yeah, hey, I know I can one-shot an enemy by pushing them off a cliff.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I understand, you know, I know the fun of like dousing them with water and then blasting them with lightning because that doubles up the damage and that's intuitive. Just all the detail that exists in the combat system
Starting point is 00:39:02 made me come to really love it. And I'll also say, as someone who played Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, much prefer this combat engine because the infinity engine in those original games was it was a it was a weird hybrid real time with pause system where turns took place but they took place in real time and you'll you'll see this happen actually in the in balder's gate three because you can go into turn-based mode at literally any point you do that when you're in town just around um npcs around a non-combat encounter turns are still occurring
Starting point is 00:39:28 like through the game clock but there's no actual like turns that are taking place in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 and you know that the the other related games and so I always just felt it a little clunky here I feel like the discrete turns uh just makes it a much more compelling game the other thing that I'm finding replaying it now is all the things i missed because i didn't use a guide for my first playthrough i i look you know i look at things like here's how to play the game here's some combat tips here's some ways to spec but i didn't look at anything in terms of quests except for one quest which i thought was bugged and it turned out that it was just uh dumb um anyway uh i'm not gonna play about this game
Starting point is 00:40:02 it's great uh but all But the thing that I'm finding is there's so much of the map I missed. There's so many quests that I was just like, oh, I didn't realize there was an extra dimension to it. They're like they're, you know, they're little details. They're references to things. You'll find a letter on a corpse that's addressed to a character you meet in Act 3. And if you're paying really close
Starting point is 00:40:20 attention on a single playthrough, you might pick up on that. But I'm not taking notes. I'm playing a video game. So playing in a second playthrough, I playthrough i'm like holy shit i can't believe this connection that has just been made um it's got great art direction and terrific character design we're talking about video games visually the word that's used is graphics and i think that's a tell because a lot of times what we're talking about is things like resolution and frame rate things that are technical but here this is just a game that yeah yeah it's it's maybe a little it it's a obviously a little bit buggy but the character design is so fucking good the environments look so lush and lived in yeah and and you know you look at a character like lazel
Starting point is 00:40:54 or shadow heart or a star in and and it's just like their visual design is instantly memorable and is shorthand for what that character's essence is. And it's also so interesting that you could, I don't feel like I met very many people in the game that looked anything like another person I met in the game, really. Like, there's like, you know. Yeah, there reaches a certain point where you start to see the same, you know, gnomes with cornrows and you're just like, okay, well, I feel like I've, but that said, given the limited number of templates that they have for hairstyles and faces and scarring or whatever, yeah, I think they do a really good job of diversifying all the various NPCs. While we're talking aesthetics, the music by Borislav Slavov is so fucking good. It's one of the best video game scores I can remember.
Starting point is 00:41:38 The down by the river leitmotif that you hear in character creation that keeps resurfacing throughout the game. It never gets old and it's endlessly reshuffled. The combat music, you'll come to notice it's dynamic and will change if you defeat a powerful enemy or if a party member is downed. So it's like reacting to the flow of combat and making you feel more triumphant or more backed into a corner. And that's really effective.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And also, and i told this to the two of you on text and i won't give any spoilers in terms of of who it is or what the specifics are because i think people should experience it the way i've experienced it if you haven't gotten to this point in the game which is organically and not knowing it was coming there is a third act boss who sings their own theme song you get to their area and a fucking musical number breaks out and i was playing this and a smile is creeping onto my face and in my brain said with affection is like is are they really fucking doing this i could not believe it i think it's like one of the best boss themes ever and it's such an amazing moment that actually also ties in with the essence of
Starting point is 00:42:46 the character that you're fighting an incredible encounter that is just taken up several notches by the scoring their incredible soundtrack talking a few more a few more things and then we'll get into our top 10 list it's the best fuck around and find out game i think i've played yeah here's some examples from act 1. These are all non main quests so these aren't story spoilers and these aren't this is stuff from early in the game so hopefully I'm not stepping on
Starting point is 00:43:13 too much, stepping too far into spoiler country. There's a blighted village where you hear sex sounds in a barn and you can open the door, you can go to open the door and your party members like, hey, leave them alone. Don't do that. Yeah. And of course, like, I'm like, I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:43:29 open this up and see what's going on in there. And it's a bugbear just railing an ogre. And they turn to you, and they're like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, leave me alone. And it, like, unless you, like, pass some skill checks, they will attack you.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And then you just have to kill these people who are having a consensual encounter that you intruded upon. And I killed the bugbear and the ogre is just like, no! It's all distraught that her lover has been killed in front of her while they were in the throes of passion moments ago. And I felt horrible um and it's but it's also like you're just like what did you expect to happen what did you think was going to go on when you decided to open this can of worms it's so like that's so good so many little things like that i remember like declining uh a quest to go like steal an egg oh yeah yeah for this lady and she was like you're not gonna do it? fine I'm gonna fight you
Starting point is 00:44:28 I was like I guess you're dead then what am I gonna do? I'm not doing it I don't wanna do that I'm also remembering I don't remember if I've mentioned this on the show is her name Lizelle? Lizelle yeah she died in my playthrough oh my god
Starting point is 00:44:42 like early on like permadeath? Jesus Christ uh she died in my playthrough oh my god like early on oh and i and i didn't know death yeah and jesus christ she wasn't in my party she wasn't in my party at the time like i like holy shit i just saw her and i was like i don't know matt i'm shocked we like we got into like an argument because like you meet her in the very beginning yeah right and we had like an i was like she's kind of rude i don't like her and so we had sort of like an argument i had like an, I was like, she's kind of rude. I don't like her. And so we had sort of like an argument. I picked like an argumentative, uh, like dialogue choice. And so we just didn't get along. So she didn't come with me initially.
Starting point is 00:45:11 It was always me and shadow heart. And then, um, then, uh, later on, like in act one, there's a part where there's a big dragon or whatever. And like some people have, uh, have Liesel and Lizelle and they like kill her and I was like oh I guess I could have stopped them this is like the Yankee Cray show yeah and they kill her and then I did a bad
Starting point is 00:45:34 job of trying to stop the encounter and she just died but I didn't know she was so impactful or such a like you know main character until I started to like engage with people like online talking about like, you know, like watching YouTube videos about Baldur's Gate 3 and stuff. People are like, I love her. I was like, she died immediately.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Like she was not she was nothing to me in my in my game. I love that you committed to this and didn't save scum out of it. I think that's the way to play the game. And I wasn't I wasn't save scumming here either. I was just like, you know, if I failed a role, I'm just going to I'm just going to go with it. I think that's the way to play this game. I mean, save scum for other people. But I didn't I didn't know it was so the game was so new to me at that point.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I just didn't know what I could do. Well, this is this is related to my experience with the game, which is, you know, I haven't beaten my first run of baldur's gate 3 yet but i have said on the uh on the pod before that i that everybody in the entire fucking world hates my character and uh are all almost every interaction i have with an npc there's something i've done in the past where they are like kill her on sight and i there there was a uh an somebody who was just an npc in the woods who's like a you know like a devil looking character um whatever the fuck those guys are called and she sees me and it's just like or or it could be a tiefling too a tiefling there you go and this tiefling's like there is blood on your hands i shall avenge them and i'm like what who are you she like fucking draws her
Starting point is 00:47:13 sword and i wipe her out with my party and then you know weeks later happen to see a tweet where somebody's like she's my favorite party member and i'm like oh no that was good that was a character that would i didn't even have the opportunity yeah i didn't have the opportunity she fucking drew she drew her sword at me the moment she said set eyes on me and i think that's probably because i looked through a barrel in the town she's from and i and somebody was like hey you can't do that you gotta go to jail and i was like i'm just looking through the fucking barrel and then they draw their sword and then i'm like okay i kill that person and it created a domino effect where my party had to wipe out an entire town. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And the town apparently has a lot of story and a lot of quests. It's the one where it's like tieflings and the plant people. What are those guys called? Yeah, the druids. Yeah. Really the central hub of the first part of Act 1, the first portion of Act 1. The hub of the first part of Act 1, the first portion of Act 1. Well, I – so that hub is decimated because I had to go person by person as I'm trying to get out. I'm just like, okay, I'm sorry I dug through the fucking barrel.
Starting point is 00:48:42 You know, there was like a paralyzed woman in the room, and I was like, ah, she's not going to fucking mind. But anyway, yeah. So there's a huge amount of content that I'll get to see on my second playthrough when I don't play a thief. And that, look, it's not, I can't with any honesty put a game like that that I haven't beaten in my tier list for today. But it is a fucking masterpiece. And we're having such divergent experiences in a game that is not quite a sandbox. But also is like a conceptual sandbox. Because you can kind of do anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 That's what's so astonishing about the design. Is that you can kill party members or not have them in your party and the game still works because there are so many versions of this that honestly, maybe from any other developer, what you would have expected is an objective to find the githyanki from that craft and partner up with them and maybe a hard fail if that character dies. Like it's just but they're just like, no, you don't you don't have to party up with them. You don't have to be allied with them. You don't have to keep them alive even.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And then there's so many types of- And you can progress through the entire game. And there are so many games that will, you know, at the start of the game, they'll tell you like your choices in this game actually matter and they impact the game. And like a lot of the times they don't really. There's like a couple of options that get
Starting point is 00:50:06 You to the ultimate choice that the game wants you to make But in this game, it's like yeah fucking do I don't care do whatever the fuck you want, right? I'm interested to ask Rochelle. How are you are playing this game? That's right. You said that you are About five hours into act three and that's probably about where i am as well but what is how are you engaging with the world are you are you fucking around and finding out or are you like what are you doing for the first act i was definitely trying to play as like straight as possible because i just didn't really understand i couldn't wrap my head around the concept of like just being able to do anything yeah um until i i kept not being able to beat this boss yeah and it was like on i don't know how spoilery but it
Starting point is 00:50:56 was like on an island situation and i probably saved scum like 10 times not being able to beat this boss and then i uh turned him into a sheep and then pushed him off. And I was like, oh, this game is so fucking cool. Yeah, it's so good. I know exactly what you're talking about. I had a hard time with this guy because it's sort of like a floating island at the end of Act 2, right? And there are a bunch of enemies there. And all of my guys are just, I guess, very easy to push.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And they would just get pushed. One save, Karlak gets pushed off this floating rock into the abyss. Gale gets pushed off the next save. And I'm like, I I gotta make sure everybody is as center as possible but then there's all this crazy stuff happening but that was a
Starting point is 00:51:49 that was a really tough part of the game for me as well I was gonna say we should do a Baldur's Gate 3 episode but we're kind of doing it now
Starting point is 00:51:56 but inadvertently but I do think that's a thing we should do at a certain point Rochelle what character are you playing? What's your build?
Starting point is 00:52:02 I am a rogue elf Oh awesome Yeah We definitely should do it because I was thinking of the same thing might. Michelle, what character are you playing? What's your build? I am a rogue L. Oh, awesome. Yeah. We definitely should do it because I was thinking the same thing as we are kind of doing this.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I can guarantee you we could talk for two more hours about stuff we haven't talked. Yeah. Let me let me let me wrap up my thoughts real quick and then we'll get
Starting point is 00:52:17 in these top 10 lists because we've gone way long. Yeah. So I think I mentioned this. I if I was saying it the second time, I
Starting point is 00:52:22 apologize. But you were talking about the tieflings earlier, Heather. I do want to say on my my tactician playthrough i'm playing as a tiefling which i really am enjoying because there are all these unique interactions especially in that first area and i was kind of like going in like i think i'll do an evil playthrough just to see what it's like but then my tiefling goes in the tiefling village and the druids are like another one of your cursed kind i'm'm like, fuck you,
Starting point is 00:52:45 I'm allying with the tiefling, so I decided to just be good again, and honestly, just playing a different, good playthrough, but making different choices and having a different party composition, again, I'm seeing a bunch more stuff and seeing the stuff that I've already seen through a different lens. I also want to talk real quick to anyone who hasn't played this game because they are worried about how long it is, because, you know, my playthrough took me 134 hours4 hours it's a big boy or anyone who doesn't like turn-based games there's like i just don't play turn-based games uh the for anyone who's worried about the length but if you're interested in narrative games or games with choices just play this game like just don't don't worry about it you
Starting point is 00:53:20 don't have to rush through it and honestly if you play 20 hours of Act 1 and that's your Baldur's Gate 3 experience, you've gotten your money's worth, and that's probably better than 20 hours you would spend playing a complete game. Just play this game if you're at all worried about the length. If that's your obstacle, if that's the thing that's keeping you away from this, forget about it. It's worth playing regardless. Anyone who's worried about turn-based combat, first off, you can play it on Explorer.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I did it. It's totally fine. And the combat engine is still fun, and you have a lot more room for error. But also, I will say that your idea of turn-based combat may be like a bad JRPG. There's good JRPG combat, but there's a lot of bad JRPG menu combat where your actions consist of attack attack attack heal spellcast attack attack it's just like it's very monotonous and tedious and maybe that's what you're thinking of this is not that your character positioning matters both horizontally and vertically all these status effects that we talked about the idea that like you know a lot of times in in bad combat engines the most powerful effects like polymorphing a boss into a sheep are gated away from you for balance reasons.
Starting point is 00:54:29 These ways of approaching combat, all these different techniques you have to solving these problems are present, and I think it's just a much more enjoyable combat engine than maybe what you are picturing in your turn-based skeptic brain. To anyone who is all worried about,
Starting point is 00:54:46 has reasons to not play this game, but is interested, play this game. It's fucking great. Let's get into our all-time top 10 list. Hey, everyone. You know, you want to eat healthy, you want to eat well, but you don't want it to be a pain to prepare.
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Starting point is 00:56:28 and that if you weren't in that opening window, you'll end up paying an exorbitant third-party fee in order to get a thing. So I just wanted to tell Matt live right here on the show that I got you the Sora Amiibo. Heather. Wow.ather you you don't know this and you don't know um i haven't told you this my i had a pre-order for it that got canceled literally two days ago wow it got canceled for me i got got you, buddy. Heather.
Starting point is 00:57:05 What a friend. That rocks. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Wow. Nick, I got you a kind of glove that doesn't ruin skin, it says. Okay. I was going to reference how you got me a PlayStation 5
Starting point is 00:57:23 back in the day because you saw a pre-order window and how that was a very thoughtful gesture for my good friend yes this is this is amazing because i we went we went that direction i okay i just want it because i i have the character in smash i'm not good at smash i just want it because i need to see sora on my show that's like the main thing i need it for um So I really appreciate that. Thank you. It'll be out mid-February. I had my little alarm set. And there it is.
Starting point is 00:57:51 This is unbelievable. Wow. The podcast is over, I think. We're done. We're not done. We have our all-time top 10 list to get through as we're approaching the one-hour mark. So I'm going to say a few thoughts real quick. I want everyone to chime in with any general thoughts.
Starting point is 00:58:08 My real quick bullet points. I don't think, in my approach, we're not doing the sight and sound poll. Like we're not doing like that's a thing the British Film Institute does every 10 years of like they survey a bunch of people to try to come up. Here's the 10 defining films of this medium. This is not what we're doing. We're doing our own personal lists. Yes, that's how everyone approached it. Because if I was doing like a sight and sound style poll,
Starting point is 00:58:29 I would include games like Minecraft, Tetris, Wii Sports, World of Warcraft that maybe aren't on my personal list. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. These are all personal. These are all personal. And also this, Heather, we asked you about this
Starting point is 00:58:41 and you were clear on this. We are ordering our lists. So we are ranking them one through 10. I think we go, I think go reverse. That's. So we are ranking them one through 10. Uh, I think we go, I think go reverse. That's the way to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Did anyone have any personal methodology they wanted to talk about for coming up with this? Or are you just going to, are we just going to get through it as we, as we get into them? I, I, I searched my mind palace and I just kind of was remembering like what
Starting point is 00:59:00 games, what games have I played the most? What games do I return to? What games have I played? Yeah. Like multiple times. Um, what games have i played the most what games do i return to what games have i played yeah like multiple times um what games have i told people like are my favorites like to their face in the last like few years um and i was saying to you guys that one through nine were easy and that 10th spot 10th spot, the first spot on the list, really,
Starting point is 00:59:27 was the hardest one for me. But everything, one through nine, was pretty rock solid. Heather, how about you? I, so I thought generationally, I thought,
Starting point is 00:59:41 what's my favorite game of this era? And what's my favorite game of the systems out in this era? And then once I had that game, then I thought of the next era and the next era. And then I would be like, is this game better than a game from like my second favorite choice from this system? So that was kind of how I went was I was like, let's just name my favorite game for each console and then stack those against one another and, and see if there's anything that is shoved off of the list.
Starting point is 01:00:20 So, so yeah, that's, that's how I did it. I love that uh yeah i i basically just made a made a huge list of like everything i could think of that ended up being like you know 73 games um and then i winnowed that down first to a short list of 25 which was actually very quick like that that was surprised by how quickly that went uh like matt like the tough thing for me was
Starting point is 01:00:43 you know i had like six locks and then the remaining four slots were a struggle. But let's get into it. Who wants to go first? I should not go first. I just bloviated for way too long about Baldur's Gate 3.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I'll go first because like I said, this 10th spot on this list was really challenging to figure out because I could, I there's, there's just a lot left on the table, right?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Your number ones are your number ones for a reason. And those are never going to be out of question. Right. But the, the further you get down that list, I was like, I could, I could put anything in the,
Starting point is 01:01:18 in the 10th spot. Yeah. 100%. Also we should, I should say real quick, we, Heather and me and Matt we all have compiled our own guesses
Starting point is 01:01:28 for what we think is on everyone's list and on the honor system we will say what we got right yeah so in the 10 spot because I've played this game a lot I have a lot of fond memories of this game and luckily was able to replay it again
Starting point is 01:01:44 just last year when the remake came out. In the 10th spot, Resident Evil 4. Wow. A horror game. Can you believe this? For me. Holy shit. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:54 But a horror action game. I know somebody who I wish was here to hear it. Yeah. I mean, it's just a perfect. That to me is like an-time just great game. I love it. I love it so much, and I loved the remake. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Love the remake. Wow. Great pick. Unimpeachable. Unimpeachable. Are we doing all 10? Yeah, do all 10. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Do your whole list. Oh, you're doing your whole list? I think so. We don't have to, but I think it's maybe easier to track an individual's tastes. I think Smaking is going to be tough. We could alternate if you want. In the number nine spot,
Starting point is 01:02:34 I think this game is just, it's staggering. It's just such a, it still looks great, even though now it's, gosh, it's not that old, but it's like seven years old at this point
Starting point is 01:02:46 uh probably one of the newer games on this list um i just think it's it's it's fantastic and uh so number nine red dead redemption 2 wow red dead redemption 2 that game when it came out just really like took over my life in a uh borderline negative way i was like oh i think i'm a cowboy now i think i'm a cowboy i love cowboy stuff you could pull out that look i think you know what i think my head is too big for most hats but i think if you put a cowboy hat on me no one's saying shit it's like it's like oh look uh Haas is walking in. I'm so frustrated that there hasn't been like an upscaled, nicer 60 FPS version of that fucking game released for PS5. Because I didn't finish Red Dead Redemption 2 in part because I think I've mentioned on the show, I got tired of eating cowboy food. And I was dedicated to eating the food while playing the game.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Beans and beef. But it is such an incredible game. And I still watch other people playing it because it's also endlessly funny it's so funny right it's really really great um in the number eight spot i had to get this guy on the list i was like what you, he's my guy. I love him so much. But which of his games is my favorite? And I landed on Super Mario 3D World. I love Super Mario 3D World so, so much. When I played through it, I was like, I think this is like just one of the best games ever, period. I love it.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I love it so much. It's my favorite Mario game. And so I thought I had to get Mario on the list. And why not have it be my favorite one? 3D World was on my short list. Will it make my final list? But yeah, I would definitely one that was in the final going at minimum. Number seven. We talked about it. I love this so much. I fucking love this so much.
Starting point is 01:04:42 It's pretty fun. I'm so happy right now, like listening to this. This is the best. I know last week we made a joke that like a lot of podcasts are just like lists and like people like it. I am having fun and I do like this. Yeah. Number seven, The Last of Us. Just come on.
Starting point is 01:05:05 But I was pretty surprised at where it ranked just in general. I knew it was going to be in the top ten. Seven is lower than I would have thought before. But once I get through the other ones, you'll hear why. Not a lot to say about The Last of Us. It's just good. It's just The Last of Us. It's on the list.
Starting point is 01:05:25 It's just good. Number's just the last of us. It's on the list. It's just good. Number six, God of War 2018. God of War 2018. Because, you know, I've played all these God of War games. Kratos is my dog. I am a ride or die for Kratos. I love that guy. And I loved Ragnarok a lot too,
Starting point is 01:05:43 but I think I had to put the 2018 one because the only reason Ragnarok is so good is because they made such a different game out of 2018 from the previous installment. And I like all of them. I had to get Kratos on the list, but I wanted God 2018 to to represent uh my love of kratos number five prince of persia in the sands of time this is just i've i've probably played through this game like yes 10 times yeah i love it i just i love when i when it came out uh i i just i would just not stop playing i would just roll credits and then start again because I was just like, I love the rewinding time mechanic. Great mechanic, yeah. It should be in every game. I think it's so good.
Starting point is 01:06:32 It's so fun. And I like the other games too, but Sands of Time, I think, is just such a home run. It's also like the tough thing, I remember when that game came out, of just completely reinventing a franchise and updating it for a modern age that's maybe not familiar with the originals and doing it in a way that
Starting point is 01:06:50 you know honors its source but also like makes it contemporary yeah and um you know if this remake ever comes out uh i'll certainly give it a try that's sort of the other thing what do you think comes out first that or the rdr2 remake the I can almost guarantee that the update for Red Dead Redemption 2 will come out first before the Prince of Persia Sands of Time remake. But that thing about this list, too, is that all these games are still playable on modern hardware, too. No, I love this about your list. The next one, number four, Tony hawk's pro skater the original
Starting point is 01:07:27 number one uh because that was one of the one of the first games that i had yeah and it's that game is just in my bone i'll never hear goldfinger without thinking of my boy tony hawk i'll never it's never gonna happen never it's just that's just what my brain is now. Number three. Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater. Placed at the three spot completely coincidentally. But that's where it goes. Because I've played... I own...
Starting point is 01:07:55 I think I own like five copies of this game. I own it for PlayStation... Let's count them. I own it for PlayStation 2. I own it for PlayStation 3. I bought a. I own it for PlayStation 2. I own it for PlayStation 3. I bought a digital version of it on Xbox. I have the 3DS version. I have four versions of it.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Yeah. I have not quintuple dipped on this game yet. But once that volume one collection gets to about like maybe $20. That's in the bag for sure. Number two, Pokemon... Let me just say, but I'm going to start with three. Snake Eater, a game we covered on the show with Gene Park, correct? That's right, with Gene Park. And absolutely holds up.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Just a really... Just an incredible experience in one of the defining franchises in all of video games. I think it's a good one to have represented on your list. And being remade know so we'll see we'll see how that remake comes out um and then yeah number two pokemon gold version it's just my favorite pokemon game still to this day we played it on the show as well yeah and uh i just i just love it so much and it's just it to me it's everything that a good pokemon game should be. And finally, number one.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Number one with the bullet. This was the easiest one on the list. Kingdom Hearts 2. Kingdom Hearts 2. Let's fucking go, okay? Kingdom Hearts 2 is everything that Kingdom Hearts 1 is, but better and more. It plays better.
Starting point is 01:09:23 It looks better. It's more fun. It rocks. It plays better. It looks better. It's more fun. It rocks. It fucking rules. And that to me is the best video game of all time. I love it. Kingdom Hearts 2, baby. I love that. I love that pick.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I love it. I love it too. We had talked ahead of time about sort of secretly making lists for one another of what we thought the other members would say and then being sort of scouts on her about how many of them we got right for one another.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Do you want to talk about that at the end of this entire segment or should we just talk about Matt's picks right now? I think we should do it now. Interesting. I will say I wrote down 10 options for you. I got seven of them. The ones I got right. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:12 God of War 2018 Kingdom Hearts 2. There's an alphabetic order. Last of Us Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater Prince of Persia Sands of Time Resident Evil 4 and Super Mario 3D World. I did guess the ones that weren't on your list that I guessed for you, Control, just because I know you've been raving about that game, and I thought that might be like a recency bias thing. Elden Ring, I just know is one of your most played game this generation.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And the Tony Hawk, I guessed, was Tony Hawk's Underground. Yeah. Yeah, Tony Hawk's Underground made the list at a time, but I just went back to the original because I just played it so, so much. And Control almost did take that 10th spot. That 10th spot was brutal. Elden Ring was in the 10th spot. That one changed the most, more than any of the other ones.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I should have guessed a Pokemon for you, but I couldn't figure out which Pokemon it would be. So I just was like, you know what, I'll take a mulligan on that. Heather, how'd you do? I got four of them. Wow. But I did four of them. Wow. But I did get them almost in order. Wow. With Metal Gear Solid 3, Pokemon Gold, Silver, Kingdom Hearts 2, and Tony Hawk, which was what I thought was going to be your primary pick.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I had Rock Band on my list for you. That was a great pick. It was on the list. It was on my list for you. That was a great pick. It was on the list. It was on the list. Because I definitely thought, I was like, Matt might pick a Rock Band. He might pick a Rock Band. That one was tougher because I didn't know,
Starting point is 01:11:39 I was like, do I just pick Rock Band as a property or is there one that I like more than the other ones? They're all functionally the same. These are different songs, right? Yeah. Guitar Hero also was in contention, but I ultimately went with Resident Evil 4 in that 10th spot.
Starting point is 01:11:57 But all these ones that you're mentioning, yeah. The big shock for me was Super Mario 3D World, which I knew you liked, but I didn't know that you loved. And that says a lot to me here. You know, I just, I don't know. It makes me feel like a kind of warmth from my friend, Matt. It's nice.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I do sort of feel nice about just doing this, and it sucks that you guys don't get to do it, and it was just for me only. Yeah. Yeah, but that's just the format we've committed to. Yeah, it's just for me only. Just kidding. No, this is great.
Starting point is 01:12:33 No, I mean, look. Super Mario 3D World. You know what? The fact that you can be a cat in that one is doing a lot of heavy lifting. But not that much. It's just a good game. One of the best Mario power-ups of all time, the cat suit. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Who wants to go next? I feel like Nick should go last because I feel like his choices are going to be such a strange puzzle box. to be such a strange puzzle box, whereas I'm pretty sure that most listeners could guess mine because I just talk about the same 10 games over and over and over again. That's fair. So I'm ready to go next. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:13:20 All right, let's do it. Number 10. All right, let's do it. Number 10. This is a multi-platform game developed by Eric Chahi. I speak about it a lot on this show, and it is another world slash out of this world for Super Nintendo, Genesis, computers, Atari ST, 3DO, MS-DOS, the fucking Game Boy Advance has a version, Sega CD has a version, there's a Vita version,
Starting point is 01:13:56 a PS4 version, a Windows Mobile, a Switch, an Xbox One. So if you want to know what my top 10 best game of all time is, you can play it basically on anything. I think it is a masterpiece of atmosphere. And I think it is also, it's one of those incredible games made by effectively one person. And because of that, there is a thematic consistency from design to, uh, to the sort of cinema cinematic quality of the game. Um, there is no, there's very few options in, out of this world. So unlike most of the things that I enjoy, you kind of have to figure out how to, how to beat a certain level so to speak by figuring out what the developer wants you to do but it is so challenging and it is so satisfying when you do that and the story it tells is mysterious and simple i fucking love out of this world slash another world which couldn't be called
Starting point is 01:15:01 another world because in the united states there was a sitcom with that title. And it wasn't Leo. They're like, we can't call it Another World, but that's what it is. It's Another World. And it was like, no, there's a main sitcom on television, so you can't call it something else. Out of this world. All right. What's interesting is that there was also an Out of This World show, right?
Starting point is 01:15:30 Wasn't that the one where the girl who gets stopped time i don't know yeah sure yeah maureen flanagan maybe i'm conflated maybe conflating the two that might be great i never watched the sitcom i have no idea that's a great pick all right uh number nine Elden Ring which had to beat the other it was like okay it's a souls game but which souls game is it uh and I you know I for a while it was Dark Souls for a while it was Demon's Souls because I fucking love Demon's Souls but ultimately I was like look there was there were very few video games where every time I played it, I would go into the house and tell Mary, I fucking love this game so much. I thought about it all the time. I think it's going to stand the test of time as one of the most excellent. It's so, again, like Out of This World, it's fucking hard.
Starting point is 01:16:23 And it's so good when it's good. And you can make yourself be kind of any kind of thing. You could be a lumbering idiot who's a tank. You could be a glass mage. You can be like, it's a fucking, everybody knows Elden Ring. It's a fucking great game, Elden Ring. And the only game on your list where you invaded and killed me look no I didn't kill you I didn't kill you no that's right
Starting point is 01:16:51 no you didn't kill me I killed you because I got scared I started I started to attack you because I didn't realize it was you and then the moment I realized it was you I ran away and you chased me down a flight of stairs and murdered me yeah Yeah, that's right. That's right. So, yeah. No, I, yeah. I almost accidentally slayed my podcast brother. Number eight, Final Fantasy XII. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Which is not a lot of people's favorite Final Fantasy game. And it is not even a game that shares a lot of, it doesn't have a lot in common with the rest of the series. Right. Because it has a combat system that is unlike any of the combat systems of any of the other Final Fantasy games. You set up a programming language for your characters. If this happens, then do this. If this happens, then do that. Called gambits.
Starting point is 01:17:55 And once you set up your gambits, you enter into battle and you watch your characters do what you've told them to do so you're almost like a omniscient strategist for your team and then if things start going south you can micromanage and like choose things on the fly but most of the game you are like all, let's see if this is the right set of parameters in order to take down this fucking giant armadillo. But I loved it. I love the story. It's the first of the Final Fantasy scripts, which is mature and not a bunch of, I don't know, it's not hokey. It takes itself very seriously and a lot of people
Starting point is 01:18:47 aren't you know it's and it does it in a different way than final fantasy 16 does which is that it is still full of joy there's still like weird moments where you're like running around a town shouting another guy's name in order to convince the villagers that this guy's important or that they need to pay attention to him. So it's still got kind of a quirky goofiness to it, but the story itself is like earnest, robust, and satisfying. So that's my number eight. I think it's a great pick and a great representation of the franchise. One of the best Final Fantasies, also a personal favorite of mine in the series and yeah i think you're you're absolutely right and your description of the combat system is so novel and unique and satisfying
Starting point is 01:19:33 number seven shocked at how low on the list this is the last of us wow um the last of us The Last of Us. Wow. The Last of Us is so good. And Factions is the best multiplayer game I've ever played. So you can imagine my broken heart when it was announced that Naughty Dog was abandoning the Factions project, which was going to be a fortnight style live service game uh because i would have died on my couch if they had brought that game out um and uh i'm heartbroken that it doesn't exist apparently they are shutting down the faction servers soon so i might dip back in um last of us is a masterpiece uh I don't even know what there's nothing I can say about it other than
Starting point is 01:20:29 to say that my number what am I six my number six game is the Last of Us part two wow I'm shocked I had guessed you were going to do that but I didn't
Starting point is 01:20:44 I didn't lock it in. But I had thought about you doing that. I'm shocked you did both. Please continue. The longer I'm away from The Last of Us Part II, the more I love it. When the remaster comes out later this month, I'm going to play it again. play it again. I know a lot of people didn't ever find the empathy required to make the ending of the game work for them. But I have never experienced a game that pained me in the way that Last of Us Part II pained me, it is, I think it is a game that argues for the existence of video games.
Starting point is 01:21:35 It is a game which I think the only other medium, I'm really curious how they're going to pull it off as a TV show, because I don't think it'll work as a TV show. I think the only other medium that would be able to do this is a novel, but it really makes you feel a thing that you can't feel while watching a movie. I mean, you can feel like empathy and you can feel like catharsis uh but you can't you can't there's a specific embodiment of of of this dual protagonist situation that i don't think works in anything else but a novel so well done to the team on The Last of Us Part 2. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Again, I'm really bummed that you guys aren't doing factions. All right. Number five, four, three, two, one. Yeah, five. Number five. I counted how many copies of this game that I own, and I was like, oh my God, I own 17 copies of this game on different platforms. Um, so Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is, uh, my number five. I, oh, it's the first game that I buy when it, like, I, why do I own it for the 3ds like what was I what was I expect
Starting point is 01:23:10 it's just because like if there is if there's a game that I just want to dip into for like literally six minutes I'll throw on Sonic 2 it has been in my entire life. It's my whole life game. It's not... So, is it better than The Last of Us Part II? I don't fucking know, but it's better for me. Alright, so that's five. Yeah, it's your list. I also, I do think it's better than
Starting point is 01:23:37 The Last of Us Part II, but I think that's a great ranking. Wow. Number four. Final Fantasy 15. Wow. Two Final Fantasies, two Last of Uses on your list. One away from making the correct choice. I've realized that Final Fantasy 15 is my favorite Final Fantasy game,
Starting point is 01:24:04 and I don't know what to do with that information. You love your boys. I love those boys so much. When I thought I was going to, well, when they told me I was going to lose all my hair, I had to buy, I was like, well, I might buy a wig. But I'm not just going to buy wigs that look like my hair. I'm going to buy wigs that would be fun to wear. And to my shock, I purchased a Noctis wig before any other wig.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Because I was like, oh man, it would be fun to look like Noctis. I'm looking at the wigs right now. That is a cool looking wig. It's a cool looking wig it's a cool looking wig I've been fortunate enough that also if you showed up wearing that to a record I would not bat an eye no yeah nobody wears
Starting point is 01:24:52 Heather's wearing a noctis wig I've been fortunate enough that I'm doing an ice capping system where they pump frozen alcohol onto my skull while giving me chemotherapy. And I've been very fortunate that it has worked extremely well for me during treatment. Wow.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I know that a lot of women are not as fortunate as I am, but I've kept almost all of my hair. And that's not what was supposed to happen. So I'm really, really really lucky and i will just have to wear the noctis wig for literal fun i also got a cloud wig because it clouds got great hair uh i can't believe final fantasy 15 is my favorite final fantasy game i think about it all the time i listen to the think about it all the time I listen to the music for it all the time it's also got the same composer as Kingdom Hearts uh like it's it's a great fucking score and I was like I can't believe it's not a Nobuo Uematsu
Starting point is 01:25:55 score that is my favorite like how is that possible how did this happen the game is was released in a slightly broken state like the development was rushed after being announced 10 years too early uh but then i also have all of the camping equipment that the boys use and i have it in my real life so like i love it love that pick. Number three. Shocking nobody. Fortnite is my number three video game of all time. And it is weird also because at this point, Fortnite is like a launch platform.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Like it's not even like I can say. Yeah. Fortnite's not even just Fortnite anymore. It's like Fortnite racing, Fortnite Lego, Fortnite zero build, Fortnite regular build, and all of the fan made, like, you know, fan uploaded levels.
Starting point is 01:26:56 I don't even know what the fuck those are called. Fortnite is the metaverse that the metaverse thinks it is. Yeah, Fortnite's incredible. I play it every day. i have played it every day for more than a year it's it's perfect uh it's so crunchy and and and like fun and and it's funny also it's so funny uh and not in the way that like the story itself is funny, but in the way that like, you know, you can be playing a very serious battle royale game with a squad and one of your squad members can be like, what if I drive a car at them? And you're like, what?
Starting point is 01:27:37 And then somebody gets in a car and drives a car into a gas station and explodes the gas station. It's great. That's three. Have I been talking too long? Doesn't really know explodes the gas station. It's great. That's three. Have I been talking too long? Doesn't really matter. No, you've been doing great. Crushing it. Number two.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Street Fighter 3. Hell yes. Street Fighter 3 Third Strike is fucking perfect. Wow. It's fucking perfect. It's a fucking perfect game uh if street fighter 3 had the uh sort of online presence that fortnite had i think i would play street fighter 3 every day um it doesn't uh street fighter 3 is the game i will buy an astro city cabinet for after i can someday buy
Starting point is 01:28:29 a house so i'm gonna have like a one year window in between being able to afford to buy a house and the total collapse of civilization and in that window i will buy an astro city and play street fighter 3 on the original hardware. Street Fighter 3 is fucking perfect. My favorite game of all time. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. I was just going to say on Street Fighter 3, Third Strike, I think it's one of the best looking games of
Starting point is 01:28:59 all time. The animation is so just gorgeous in that game and obviously the character design folds into that. But as far as a game that's made with sprites, with pixels, maybe the best looking one. It's such a good game, and it's so fucking pretty,
Starting point is 01:29:21 and it's got such a, just the soundtrack rips it's so good it's so good and it it occupies not only like uh like it's it's a nostalgic game for me but it's not a nostalgic game where where i play it now i'm like bummed out because it's not what i remember you pick up street fighter 3 and it is as perfect now as it was then. And if you have somebody to play against and in your space even, if there is an arcade that I walk into, which is so rare, but if I walk into an arcade and Street Fighter 3 had like a small crowd around it I'd be so excited for the rest of my night like I'd be like
Starting point is 01:30:10 oh my god I hope these fucking dudes are good cause there's like losing Street Fighter 3 is great winning Street Fighter 3 is great I love it wow my number one game of all time is Disco Elysium
Starting point is 01:30:24 let's fucking go dog hell yes uh i i i don't know why how that game is made i I don't know. I don't understand. Like, I'm sure that if I finish Baldur's Gate 3, I will think that Baldur's Gate 3 is a more, is a more incredible programming masterpiece with the same sort of like fluidity of choice.
Starting point is 01:31:01 But I don't know that Baldur's Gate 3 will ever tell me anything about myself and disco elysium told me stuff about myself and uh i've now played it i've played it more than once and um it is it is it is i i don't want to live in Revachol, but I would. And kind of feel like, like it's, it's a miserable place,
Starting point is 01:31:35 but like something about it is like a siren song. It, it calls to me the, the, the design of the game, the, the voice, the acting of the game, the score, the soundtrack to this game, the relationship between the two main characters that is different every time you play it. multiverse variations of that main relationship uh i think i think disco elysium is perfect uh and i can't i'm shocked i was shocked that i was like it's it i it's it's my favorite game ever um i bought harry's coat right before i got re-diagnosed with cancer. And one of my goals is that when I'm done with this
Starting point is 01:32:29 and I can go sit at a restaurant like outside again that I'm going to put on Harry's coat and I'm going to sit outside a restaurant and I'm going to feel something hopefully. But yeah, Disco Elysium is, it's perfect. That's my top 10 list. And I don't knowium is, it's perfect. That's my top 10 list. And I don't know why that,
Starting point is 01:32:48 it made me so sad. It made me emotional. Really? It's a great list. It's a great list. And you also, you're reflecting on games that have made an impact on you. It makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Um, disco was also in contention for my number, for my number 10. Cause I love, I loved it so much too, but I'm happy to report that of your 10 picks, I did guess five correctly. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Those being Fortnite, Sonic 2, Disco Elysium, The Last of Us, and Street Fighter 3. I got six right. I got Disco Elysium, Final Fantasy 12. I did not think you would pick another Final Fantasy. Fortnite, The Last of Us, Sonic the Hedgehog 2, and Street Fighter 3, Third Strike. My other ones that I thought were going to be on your list that weren't on your list,
Starting point is 01:33:30 I'll just say them to you. Cave Story, and it's a game you talk about a lot. I love Cave Story. It's a good game. Earthbound. I know you love that franchise. I wasn't sure if you were going to give that or Mother 3. I imagine they were on your short list.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Nights into Dreams and Portal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, portal's pretty good uh if i'd chosen an earthbound game it would have been mother three and i think the reason mother three isn't on my list is because i have nobody to talk to about it right uh and i mean that like with love for you guys yeah i bought you guys copies of the game and you never played it uh it it's it's like i it's like i walked around a corner and i saw a tiger like get on a motorcycle and drive away and nobody else was there and i haven't been able to, like, I can say, holy shit, I saw a tiger get on a motorcycle. But if literally nobody else saw it, and then also, I don't have any way to like kind of engage with that memory, then of course, I'm not going to name tiger on a motorcycle as
Starting point is 01:34:44 one of the best moments of my life. I'm going to name stuff like my wedding, you know, like, like, it not going to name Tiger on a motorcycle as one of the best moments of my life I'm going to name stuff like my wedding you know like it's going to be like it's going to be stuff that I can engage with as like an active memory so Mother 3 is a great guess um what kind of tiger was it
Starting point is 01:35:00 I didn't see oh no if it was Tiger Woods I'd be a little less impressed it's like okay well like he can get on a motorcycle even though it's cool okay uh tony the this heather that heather i love your list i think it's very heather and i think also i think it speaks to disco elysium that given your taste and ed that you are someone who when you play games you like to hit things uh that a game with no combat engine was able to rocket to your number one slot is i really said something about how that game's impact on you i think i said it at the time that
Starting point is 01:35:34 we covered this the game it made dialogue into combat sure yes like any like literally conversations can kill you so like it wasn't like there it wasn't like there wasn't shit that was like happening and jeopardizing you and and your ability to go for like your my I I told my mom about the game and I was like you should play this game and she like started playing it and was like I hate this game I woke, tried to get a tie off of the fan and died. And like, that's that means it's
Starting point is 01:36:11 combat. That's combat for me. All right, Nick. It's your turn, man. Thanks, Heather. Why don't you finish us out? Why don't you jerk us out? Jesus. I don't know. don't you jerk us out jesus i don't know i'm trying to raw that was good it was on brand i'm going to begin by listing five games that were my final cuts
Starting point is 01:36:37 without comment so just these these were ones that i almost were that a five-way tie for 11th place. Let's call it. Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Celeste, Diablo 2, FTL, and Stardew Valley. Celeste, my toughest cut. I have a Celeste poster in my home office, but just couldn't make room for it. Let me get into my top 10. In the number 10 slot, The Secret of Monkey Island, 1990, developed and published by Lucasfilm Games, later LucasArts, directed by Ron Gilbert. One of the most impactful games in terms of my tastes. It's the first game I remember playing that had dialogue trees. The first game I remember that I found funny.
Starting point is 01:37:20 The sort of absurdist high concept comedy that's present in that game, for better or worse, like kind of just sort of affected my sense of humor and the kind of comedy that I like. I also think it just has incredible puzzle design, a phenomenal score. I think it absolutely holds up. And I played so many point and click graphic adventures in the 90s, basically every lucasarts game that came out i felt like that had to be that sort of genre had to be represented um and the secret of monkey island for me is the apex example also shout out to my grandpa uh who got me that game wow yeah so i wouldn't have played it R.I.P. Anyway, the number nine. The Legend of Zelda. No colon, no blank of the blank. The Legend of Zelda, the 1986 NES game developed by Nintendo R&D for published by Nintendo and directed by Shigeru Miyamoto and Takashi Tezuka.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I thought about the Zelda franchise and I was like, this has to be represented on my list because I played basically all of these games and I love this franchise so much. And I also just like I pay at Nintendo systems. That was the first that was my introduction to console gaming. for the first time, and that's when I was really getting into this medium. And when I think back on that, The Legend of Zelda was the game that, again, most informed my taste going forward. Just the sense of exploration, the sense of discovery, the idea of secrets, the idea of some sort of open-ended structure. It's not a Metroidvania, but it has the same sort of thing of how you have an open world that you develop new ways, new methods of traversal that allow you to explore more of it that's seemingly inaccessible at first. A game that, you know, I played as a little boy without a guide and probably took me 25 to 30 hours to get through. But in my memory, it's a thousand hours.
Starting point is 01:39:22 And also the Zelda I finished the most times. I played the first quest and the second quest so many times. I think it absolutely holds up, and I think it's my favorite of the franchise and one of my favorite games of all time, coming in at number nine. Number eight. I want to have a really hard
Starting point is 01:39:40 game on this, because that's a big part of my gaming taste. I like a game that challenges me yeah and i appreciate a game where you have to fail repeatedly because failure is learning and failure is self-improvement and failure is progress and that's a thing it took me a long time in adulthood to come to understand but now some of my most memorable gaming experiences are games where i've felt like I've come up against a wall and I've triumphed.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Sekiro, Shadows Die Twice being a notable example. But that's not the game that's number eight. That's not the game I'm picking. The game I'm picking is Cuphead. 2017 game developed and published by studio MDHR, directed by Chad Moldenhauer and Jared Moldenhauer. First off, just a pristine aesthetic game. Just like one of the best soundtracks ever.
Starting point is 01:40:27 One of the best looking games. I love how it plays. I love that. It's just like, it's like oops, all boss fights. I love that. It's basically a long boss attack game.
Starting point is 01:40:36 I played through this multiple times and the DLC. I think it's so fucking fun. I just think it's pure fun. And I think it's also just like a game where, Hey, I've, I've lost a bunch on certain bosses. There were ones that I thought maybe I couldn't beat and I had to take a break and had to come back to it. I know it's not the hardest game ever made. I know it's not like a rage game, but it is a challenging game. And it's a game that's
Starting point is 01:40:55 notorious for its difficulty level that appears on hardest games of all time lists. I wanted that kind of type of game represented. And I cuphead is also a type a genre of game which is a 2d side scroller that i absolutely love and were some of my first favorite games and is a modern version of it um that i will come back to because i fucking love it cuphead is awesome cuphead's an incredible masterpiece uh both you know visually uh audio from an audio standpoint and especially from a gameplay standpoint. How much is Miss Chalice putting her foot on the scale for that one for you? Look, if the lovely Miss Chalice wasn't a part of the delicious last course,
Starting point is 01:41:34 maybe the hippie hookup doesn't make it into the eighth slot. But she is, so that's where it sits. Speaking of horny games, number seven. And Matt, I thought this one was going to be on your list. Hey, wait a minute. Hades. 2020 roguelike, roguelite, developed and published by Supergiant Games, designed by Amir Rao, Gavin Simon, Greg Kasavin, Eduardo Gorenstein, and Alice Lai.
Starting point is 01:41:59 This is maybe where Diablo 2 would have gone. And I thought about it more. And my thoughts on Diablo 2, you know, kind of your best of list is going to be a living document. My thoughts on Diablo 2 were affected to some degree by Diablo 2 Resurrected, which was a fantastic remake. But as I was playing it, I was kind of like, I think that game served me at a certain time in my life and I've kind of moved on from it. I don't know if I need to return to it as much as I appreciate its design, as much as it kind of impacted me. The other games I've listed so far are all games I will return to. Diablo 2, I don't know if I'll ever play again. I don't know why I'd play it over necessarily even Diablo 4 if I want that type of experience. Even though it's a staggering game and one of my
Starting point is 01:42:38 favorite games of all time, Hades, I think, represents both that type of isometric action RPG game. I think the action is better and more you know, isometric action RPG game. I think the action is better and more compelling than it is in any of the Diablo games. But also it's got the roguelike structure, which I have really come to appreciate in the past decade. And a lot of my favorite games, especially indie games that have come out since the 2010s have been roguelikes. And and I think it's just it's I think it's the best roguelike. And I think it's just, I think it's the best roguelike.
Starting point is 01:43:06 And I think it's one of the best action RPGs ever made. It's also just, again, incredible character design, awesome art, perhaps the most polished game I've ever played. Just as far as I've experienced,
Starting point is 01:43:17 completely bug-free and just packed with so much content. A pristine game with also incredible voice acting, incredible writing, and an incredible soundtrack. Just the total package. Wow. That brings me to my number six pick. Planescape Torment, 1999 RPG developed by Black Isle Studios, published by Interplay, and designed and written by Chris Avalone. So 20 years before Baldur's Gate 3, we had a D&D set RPG that had the same amount of just choice and flexibility and exploring the same bleak and dark and raunchy themes, an incredible level of writing and just so much you could do in this game.
Starting point is 01:44:01 So many ways you could play it uh also just like incredible distinct world building um and also you know funny it's it's like it's it's its own it's very much its own thing even though it was it was a in that era of the infinity engine uh isometric you know a bioware style rpgs even though that was in that same thing it felt like its own thing it felt like a unicorn it felt like an utterly thing. It felt like a unicorn. It felt like an utterly unique game. It still does to this day. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:44:28 It's influenced games that we've already cited, like Disco Elysium. That comes in large part from inspiration from Planescape Torment. I'd also certainly inspired my gaming tastes and just another dense dialogue driven character driven rpg uh that i i'm i plan to revisit especially after uh spending some time with balder's gate 3 and remembering how much i love that game number five super mario world no 3d just super mario world the 1990 game developed by nintendo ead published by Nintendo, directed by Takashi Tesuka. I thought about Super Mario 3D World for this slot, for the Mario slot. It came down,
Starting point is 01:45:10 it came really close to me, but ultimately Super Mario World, I think, is just a better overall experience for me, and certainly one that lingers stronger in my memory. I just, it's, what can you say about this? It's a fucking incredible Mario game. It's the apex of the 2D Marios.
Starting point is 01:45:26 And Mario Wonder, when you come out, I think everyone's reaction is like, this game is awesome. It's not quite Super Mario World. Not quite Super Mario Brothers 3, but it's awesome. Super Mario World is Super Mario World. And as such, it's number five. Hell yeah. Number four. What's that?
Starting point is 01:45:48 Some overlap? We got some overlap we sure do disco elysium 2019 developed and published by zone designed and written by robert kervitz i thought about putting this even higher i think uh it makes sense and where it is when you when i list my other games at least for me um but just the probably the best writing in any video game ever uh an amazing aesthetic completely just a a total novel approach to game design and coming from to rpg design and coming from a studio out of fucking nowhere who was what was this estonian developer that no one was paying attention to and that comes out with one of the defining games uh of the genre and of the uh games. Of the genre. And of the medium.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Just an incredible game. We've done a whole episode on it. I played through it multiple times. I played through this multiple builds. And I played through it multiple ways. And just the idea that like. As opposed to playing through. A traditional RPG as a.
Starting point is 01:46:39 You know as a fighter. And then as a sorcerer. And seeing what's different here. That you can play this through as like a coward. And then as a fascist. And then as a sorcerer and seeing what's different here that you can play this through as like a coward and then as a fascist and then as a drunk it's just such a fascinating approach to character development and player agency number three is a very different approach to an rpg but one i very much appreciate and one i think is the apex of its particular uh style of rpg the jrpg 1995's chrono trigger developed and published by square directed by takashi tokita yoshinori katase and
Starting point is 01:47:14 akihiko matsui i mean just like i i adore this game i think it's just it's got the best approach to any sort of splintered timeline that's ever been in anything that's interactive incredible art maybe my favorite soundtrack of all time by Yasunori Mitsuura incredible storytelling all the different endings a great combat engine one of my favorite JRPG combat engines up there with Persona 5 and yeah I mean it's it's it's sometimes tough to articulate what you absolutely i think we're all running in this what you absolutely love about a game i just fucking love this game and it hit me at the right time i don't know if i ever talked about my experience with this but i didn't get into chrono trigger at its release it was years later uh when the
Starting point is 01:47:59 playstation 1 was already out uh when i got a when i had i got my hands on a used copy of chrono trigger and finally played through it. And it was very much like the A, where has this been all my life, even though whatever, it was just like four or five years, but just having that feeling of experiencing this game then and afterward. Number two, I think is potentially the best game of all time. It's either this or Tetris. And it's my number two game on my personal list uh portal 2007 developed and published by valve designed by kim swift if i was going to cheat i'd put the orange box here because that also includes half-life 2 as well as some other stuff but i feel
Starting point is 01:48:38 like putting a compilation game is against the spirit of the exercise i wanted to make the tough decision and i think portal is just it's's just like nothing else except portal too, which to me isn't as good. Um, uh, incredible writing, um, Chet Falasek and,
Starting point is 01:48:52 and Eric Wolpaw, uh, were the principal writers on that. Uh, get talked about Kim Swift's design on this. It's, it's just like, it's an incredible premise.
Starting point is 01:48:59 That's fully explored, fully exploited. Uh, and, and just this one idea is carried away, carried all the way past the finish line and then some. And it does it in five hours. It's like it's like the perfect length for this idea. Like not every game needs to be a sprawling, massive undertaking.
Starting point is 01:49:19 It can be an approachable length. And that's a big credit to this game is that it doesn't overstay its welcome. I could replay this again and again when we replayed it for the podcast i was like i'm loving every second of this it's so charming uh the the music is obviously great especially that final track and uh still alive and you know like the cake was a lie was a meme before meme culture was really a mainstream thing i mean it's just it's, I think this is what video games are all about. I think this tells us, tells an interactive story that could only be interactive. Which brings me to my number one pick. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:49:56 I did the math and I've been playing video games for like 37 years, I think, at my age. You know, the first game I remember playing was Rad on Bungling Bay on my dad's Commodore 64. And I wanted to reflect the many generations I've played over the course of my life and the games that have influenced my taste. And as I was going through this, I was realizing that a lot of the games that really impacted me are from recent years you know i've certainly got some games from the 90s and before uh but i've got i've got some games
Starting point is 01:50:31 from within the past five years and that really speaks to you know again it's just it's cool to be alive in this experiencing this medium as it evolves and as new heights are reached with this art form. And that brings me to my number one pick. Baldur's Gate 3, a 2023 game developed and published by Larian Studios, directed by Sven Vinke. Wow.
Starting point is 01:50:57 It is my favorite game. It's just your favorite game. I think it's my new favorite game. Wow. I have a new favorite game and it's Baldur's Gate 3, my number one game of all time. I love it.
Starting point is 01:51:04 I just think it marries what i like about about rpgs like planescape torment and disco elysium with triple a production values and an incredible combat engine uh and it's i think it's just a staggering achievement and i think it's an unmissable experience for anyone who likes narrative games um and for me it's it I think, you know, fuck it, whatever. Why can't it be my favorite game? That's what I was thinking. Like Bilbo with the ring. Why shouldn't I keep it?
Starting point is 01:51:33 Why can't this be my favorite game of all time? It's how I feel right now. And that's where it goes. No one is fighting. I'm just saying it's my number one. No argument for your pick. None. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:42 These are all really great picks. Yeah. argument for your pick none yeah these are all really great picks um yeah you saying portal in the number two slot being as close to a perfect game as tetris is i hadn't thought about that before and i agree i 100 agree with that take that's a great take that's really really good um thank you ballers game three it's the only actually funny script in a game ever. Yeah. Yeah. I will disagree with you there, but I think that it is a very funny script. I think there have been lots of funny games for me.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Yeah. You've never played Ratchet and Clank 3 Up Your Arsenal before. And it shows. But my guess is that I got correct were Chrono Trigger, The Secret of Monkey Island, Super Mario World, and Planescape Torment some other games that I had on the list
Starting point is 01:52:33 that you mentioned Diablo 2, I had Diablo 2 in there as potentially I had it, well that was my first guess I guess I didn't have that ranked as your number one but Diablo 2 I had on the list I had Into the Breach on the list because you talk about that game a lot. I thought that the case of the Golden Idol was going to sneak in there.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Yeah. And then for some reason, I wrote down Donkey Kong Country. But for some reason, I was like, I ascribed Donkey Kong Country to Nick more than anybody for some reason. All those are on my long list except for Donkey Kong Country. A left field guess, but I think maybe because you like, I think you like the music in that game more than you like the game.
Starting point is 01:53:13 Yeah, I do like the David Wise score. I also like kind of just the general lore of Donkey Kong. Those are great games. Yeah, really, really good. I got four correct. Planetscape, Baldur's Gate 3, Monkey Island, and Disco Elysium. Wow.
Starting point is 01:53:29 I had guessed Final Fantasy VI, which I think is your Chrono Trigger slot. I thought you liked VI better than Chrono Trigger because I went back and forth on which one you'd choose. FTL was on my list. I also thought you were going to say Stranding. I thought you were going to be a Death Stranding top 10. I thought you were going to say Stranding. I thought someone was going to say Stranding. I'm a little surprised none of us said Stranding.
Starting point is 01:53:54 But I think we all have a lot of affection for that game, but it's maybe not on our personal top 10. Stranding would probably be my 11. I didn't make an extended list. I kind of knew mine. There was only one swap I did on my list, and it was Elden Ring for Marvel versus Capcom 2.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Wow. But ultimately, I was like, I don't know, man. I think I think more about Elden Ring than Marvel Capcom 2. I also had Dave the Diver on your list, which is super recent. And I knew you loved it. But yeah, I think we know each other pretty well.
Starting point is 01:54:36 I think so too. I think also like the, you know, even with the near misses, it's like you got where my head was at with a recent game because i'm not like i'm that's that's how my tastes evolve but i'm not afraid to be to be a prisoner of the moment um so yeah i think i think we all did i think we all we all did well in terms of hey our own lists and also acknowledging each other's list uh let's recap each we'll we'll
Starting point is 01:55:00 bounce back around we'll we'll list our 10 uh 10 to 1 real quick. Mine, number 10, The Secret of Monkey Island, The Legend of Zelda, Cuphead, Hades, Planescape Torment, number 5, Super Mario World, Disco Elysium, Chrono Trigger, Portal, and my number 1, Baldur's Gate 3. Heather. Out of this world, Elden Ring, Final Fantasy 12, The Last of Us, The Last of Us Part 2, Elden Ring, Final Fantasy XII, The Last of Us, The Last of Us Part II, Sonic 2, Final Fantasy XV, Fortnite, Street Fighter III, and Disco Elysium. Wow. Wow. And for me, Resident Evil 4, Red Dead Redemption 2, Super Mario 3D World, The Last of Us, God
Starting point is 01:55:42 of War 2018, The Prince of Persia and the Sands of Time Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater Pokemon Gold Version and number one Kingdom Hearts 2 Let's fucking go dog I love it Let's fucking go
Starting point is 01:55:58 I might play it today I might go pop it on I kind of love the idea of all of us firing up our number one game of all time today I mean I'm going to do it because I'm replaying Baldur's Gate 3 so I'm doing it anyway I might do it I might check in and see what's going on will we update this every year we'll find out it could be updated i can't wait to read people's top 10 list on our get played discord
Starting point is 01:56:39 yes please because i i really like people are gonna put it there it's gonna happen and i'm gonna i'm gonna learn there's i think if your top 10 novels your top 10 movies your top 10 songs your top 10 video games are a portrait of you drawn in a very specific palette and i really am looking forward to learning more about the listeners on their top 10 list well and if you're just somebody who's on Twitter, get off there and come to our Discord because I think most of us have abandoned ship at this point. I haven't logged in in over two years. All right. Hey, I got a segment for us if we want to do this.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Let's do the segment. I love it. This is a new game i came up with e-game or h-game i'll read a portion of a review from the steam store you tell me if it's a review of an e for everyone rated game for all ages or a hentai game for sweaty perverts okay so you did this, you constructed this game from memory, is that correct? Yeah, these are my reviews.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Alright, so we understand I will read a portion of the review, I will put it to you E-game or H-game and you can each guess. Alright, great. First up is a recommended review. Watched Markiplier's gameplay of this game, thought it was funny,
Starting point is 01:58:06 and my friend gifted it to me. Is this an E game or H game? So I know that Markiplier is a, like a famous Twitch streamer, but I don't know what his deal is. I don't know what the type of content that he streams on his Twitch streamer, on his Twitch stream.
Starting point is 01:58:23 I'm going to guess it's an H game because I could see somebody thinking that's funny. I'm going to guess an E game because he's a Twitch streamer and I don't know if you can stream H games. Oh, good point. That is sound logic. However, Matt takes it.
Starting point is 01:58:43 Matt is correct. This is an H game. Wow. Let me finish the review. Forgot that steam loves to show everyone achievements 10 out of 10 good game but i hope my cousin who i added doesn't ask about my bestiality achievement brownie face this is for a review of a game i played honey pop the match three uh hent. I had that on your list as well. It's a good game. Second up.
Starting point is 01:59:10 You don't have to like hentai to like the game. It's good gameplay. Next up. This is not recommended. Overall meh experience. I kept making myself like this game, but it's dull for what it is. Characters and their tiny dialogues are boring as hell.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Management mechanic is strange and unbalanced, and it feels like an issue soon in this game. Is this an E game or H game? I don't, I don't, I'm just going to go ahead and be honest. I'm not well versed in the hentai game genre, so I don't know what kind of offerings they have. I don't know how robust or how developed these games actually are. This seems like it has more systems in it than what I would think an H game would have. So I'm going to guess an E game. Matt guesses E game. I'm guessing H game because my new theory is that every one of these is an H game because Nick designed the game. So Heather's guessing H game, Matt's guessing E game. Matt takes it again.
Starting point is 02:00:13 This is an E game. No, you're not going to create your dream cat cafe. You're not even going for a nice cafe that's fine with mechanic stats. The game feeds on our desperate need for this kind of games, but doesn't care to satisfy it. Not worth the price, but we don't have an alternative. Do we? That's a very angry review for Cat Cafe Manager.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Okay, gonna add that to my wish list. Keep in mind it's not recommended by this user. That's true, yeah. Okay, it's Matt has two. Heather's yet to get on the board.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Next up. Recommended. As a fan of farm sim games, I loved this one. i've spent almost five hours to manage and design my farm max out my tools and unlock all carpenter crafts is this an e-game or h-game so i'm thinking i'm thinking this might be like a misdirect right like because Right? Like, because this is a pretty, pretty specific review. It has, like, elements to it. Like, it's making you think it's a,
Starting point is 02:01:11 Nick picked this because he thinks we're going to think that it's a farm sim game and it's rated E for everyone. I'm thinking this is, like, some kind of, like, fuck farm. Fuck farm 12. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I i'm gonna guess it's an h game matt guesses h game i am going the opposite direction i'm wondering if because at this
Starting point is 02:01:37 point i can't win if i guess if i only guess what matt guess guesses right so i'm gonna guess that it's an e-game and he chose it to make us talk about the idea of a farm simulator that was an H game and that that was the content he was hoping we'd provide. So though I do think of a game called like, uh-oh,
Starting point is 02:01:58 I fucked my turnips and I'm going to guess that it's an E for everyone. Like a mistake? Like they made a mistake? Whoops. Oh, man, I did it again. It was an accident.
Starting point is 02:02:12 I'll just finish the review. I almost forgot that this is a hentai game after the two-hour mark. God damn it. It's an H game. Matt gets it. It's called Village Rhapsody. Pretty innocuous title for a very horny game where I guess it's basically Stardew Valley, but you romance everyone's wives.
Starting point is 02:02:28 That's a good title, though. I feel like you could get away playing that surreptitiously. 100%. No one's going to know that that's a hentai game. Oh, Nick's playing Village Rhapsody. That sounds fun. I won't investigate further. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:38 Next up. Bestiality achievement. This is a recommended review. This game's in early access in case that affects your thinking at all. Recommended. At least four hours of entertainment so far. I got everyone to 100% and all hearts and whatever.
Starting point is 02:02:54 Is this an E game or H game? All hearts and whatever. At least four hours of entertainment so far. I got everyone to 100% and all hearts and whatever. Is this an E game or H game? Let me go first. I'm going to guess an E game. Their guess is E game.
Starting point is 02:03:16 You're going to guess an E game. I'm going to go ahead and guess an H game. I don't have a good reason. I'm just going to guess H. Matt is building up an insurmountable lead here what the fuck is this continuing i don't feel good about me getting these right continuing the review the jizz scenes are better but i still wish there was more semen oh my god also i feel with some of the poses there should be more skin slapping noises and yummy squishy noises to go along with the thrust. There's a review of a game called Orc Massage.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Orc Massage? Oh, no. There's plenty of jizz, but not enough semen? As per this person's recommended review. All right, one more. One more? We can stop there if you want. Do you want to tap out now?
Starting point is 02:04:05 I feel like whatever the last one is is worse Let's do it Tap out I'm winning baby This is a recommended review I recommend this game because it allows you to do things That are impossible in real life Is this an E game or H game? Well fucking is
Starting point is 02:04:25 always possible in real life e-game well I'm gonna say H game because maybe some you know less fortunate reviewer hasn't hasn't isn't as lucky in love
Starting point is 02:04:42 let's say so I'm gonna go ahead and say H game. So it's like Kitchen Disaster 3, I fucked the refrigerator. Whoops, it was an accident. How'd that happen? How'd that get in there? I'll read the full review. I recommend this game because it allows you to do things that are impossible in real life.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Like talking to girls and having sex with them. This is a review of escort secrets 18 plus I got an age game matt clean sweep. You got every single one, right? I just gotta say In regards to this one also me getting it number one with the bullet like getting the exact type of review too I didn't write this and I didn't see these before. That's some X-Files shit right there. I don't know what to think about this. He thinks he doth protest too much. By the way, this was surprisingly hard to research because I just had to look at a bunch of games
Starting point is 02:05:41 and browse through the reviews and find ones that were plausibly either. So from Steam's standpoint, I was just browsing hentai games for like 90 minutes. Well, yeah, sort of more conservative numbers for you, it seems like. That's this week's Get Played. Our producer is Rochelle Chen.
Starting point is 02:05:59 Rochelle, do you have a plug? You can follow me at yard underscore underscore sard. Yard underscore underscore sard, as always. Our music is by Ben Prunty, benpruntymusic.com. Our art is by Duck Brigade Design, duckbrigade.com. Also check out our paywalled show, Get Animated, where we're watching Pluto. That's right.
Starting point is 02:06:20 I'm not certain what episode we're on. I think it's three, but it might be two no it's three we're watching pluto on get animated which you can find on our patreon uh patreon.com slash get played which also has all of our uh old episodes our uh our premium dlc content everything up at patreon.com slash getplayed. Wow. Check all that out. And you know what got played this week? Our favorite games of all time. Wow. Hey!
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